What's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of Let's Ask Paul, the
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all right, enough of that, all right. So also I want
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we also have new what's called conductor length cards. Now, these cards are
designed to tell you how much wires still left on a reel in a barrel,
or maybe on a coil of MCA or something like that, or maybe
our pull pros that we have at Encore, all those type of things.
But anyway, this conductor link will get you really, really really close.
And it's all based on ambient temperature, so you'll need to know what the
temperature is approximately in the area that you're at, although I will tell you
on the back. We give a wide range from seventy five to ninety because
that's typically the area that you might be in a conditioned space. It's not
going to help you try to measure it if you're out in a one hundred
degrees outside, although you can probably assimilate what the changes would be, but
we give you most of that on the back of the card. These are
thick cards, forty five mili a millimeters thick, and they're engraved and it
gives you step by step and then if you don't want to use our values
on the back, we actually show you how to take the values from the
Chapter nine Table eight, which is based on one hundred and sixty seven degrees
fahrenheit seventy five degrees celsius, and we convert them for you so that you
don't have to but there is a formulae here for you to do it.
And the reason that we're using everything in fahrenheit is because in order to measure
resistance, you have to have the ambient temperature and the wire has to be
acclimated to the ambient temperature that you're testing in order for you to get an
accurate resistance over the length of the conductor. And that's the only way the
equation can be really accurate. I'll give you an example. We did a
test with what the NEC said at one hundred and sixty seven degrees fahrenheit at
for one thousand feet of twelve gauge, which is one point nine to three
ohms per thousand feet, and we had a thousand foot roll. Well,
if you use that table, it said there was only eight hundred sum feet
on the role. If you use the ambient temperature, it was right dead
on at a thousand feet. We knew that role was exactly a thousand feet,
So you know, we've tested it out. But again, many people
teach you how to determine the remainder by using resistance, but they don't take
into effect the ambient temperature. That is going to be a key player when
you're trying to measure lengths. So we do that for you on this card.
It's available on our website. Go check it out. It's under the
engraved Products over on fasttracksystem dot com. All right, so let's get into
today's question. Today's question was submitted through the portal. It says, Dear
Paul, I watch your videos and listen to your podcast all the time.
Thank you for everything you do for the trade, We're most welcome, says
I'm about to start a new project to install at two hundred and AM three
phase meter and panel three OT copper conductors. This installation will be in the
basement of a building. Okay. So it's a two part question. Okay,
So this is the first part. Situation is I will be running RMC
conduit for the service raceway, but just before I get to the meter,
I will be transitioning to RMC to five feet FMC to the top of the
meter. Do you need a supply side bonding jumper over the FMC section?
Okay, So first of all, let's talk about the FMC. The question
that everybody will have is can you use FMC to enclose service entrance conductors?
Any answer to that is yes. If you go to two thirty forty three,
item number fifteen, it says it flexible metal conduit or FMC not over
six feet long okay, okay, not over six feet long between a raceway
or between a raceway and service equipment, and with a supply side bonding jumper
routed with the flexible metal conduit according to two fifty one zero two ABC and
E. So the answer to the first part of the question is can I
do that? Well, you said your FMC was only five feet, Absolutely,
and do you have to put in the bonding jumper. Absolutely, And
you'll get all of that right from two thirty forty three Item fifteen. So
that answer pretty much answers that question. The second part of the question says,
I will be using two feet of flexible metal conduit FMC from the meter
to the panel. Because of flexibility, do I need to run a supply
side bonding jumper from the panel from the panel to the meter and install two
bonding bushings with lay in lugs at both ends in size based on Table two
fifty one oh two C one, the equipment has eccentric and concentric KOs Okay,
so brings in two parts to this one. Obviously, any anywhere that's
going to have service entrance conductors and you're going to be using FMC, you're
going to have to have a supply side bonding jumper. Shear fact that it
has service conductors in it tells you that it's on the supply side of the
service disconnect. Now again, other people would would would would kind of go
in and say, well, what about emergency disconnects. But he never said
anything about this being a dwelling is at the basement of a building, So
I'm not going to speculate on any other application. I'm not going to speculate
of grouping. I'm not going to speculate whether there's more than one service to
a building. There's many of you out there who will speculate I am.
I am not as a as an expert in consulting. I have learned through
the years that you you protect yourself because you only comment on what is presented.
You do not speculate. Now, you can do it in your real
world all you want, but when you're giving advice to people, do not
elaborate on things that you do not know. Unless you can give friendly advice
to some kind of strangling thing out there that they need to make sure that
they do get right. I'm not going to tell them how to install it.
I'm not telling what fittings to use. I'm not going to tell them
where to spond to install the system bonding the supply side bonding jumper, for
example, inside the raceway, outside the raceway. I am not getting in.
That's their choice. I'm just going to tell them that they have to
do it. Okay, Now, so that two foot peet, you obviously
are going to have to have to maintain the integrity basically skipping over this FMC
so that it's almost like it's not there when it comes to you know,
a condition where it all the bonding is take place. So yes, you're
gonna have to put that supply side bonding jumper in. You can put it
inside outside whatever that That choice is really up to you to do that,
but yes, you would need to do it. And say, now when
it comes to eccentric or concentric KOs, since you're doing service, then you
have to worry about the requirements in two fifty ninety two. Okay, so
obviously if you have concentric eccentric KOSH, then you got to You can't use
a standard lock nut for the you can for mechanical, but you cannot for
the integrity because those are considered impairments, unless, of course, your enclosure
is listed where those actual KOs are rated for a voltage higher than say two
fifty vaults the ground. That type of scenario, it's typically not what I
would see on a typical service enclosure, especially one that's got the concentric or
eccentric knockouts. Okay, so just keep that in mind and all else fails.
If you're going to use all of the your leave the concentric or eccentric
rings, additional rings in there, then I would go on and put a
bombing jumper on that, and you'd be honest with you, I'm not giving
any advice, but as long as that supply side bombing jumpers has ran inside
and it's long enough and it's sized properly, then you could bring it into
the panel, loop it through a lay and lug that's on the actual bushing,
and then take it to the bus. But I'm not telling you how
to install it. Okay, I'm not going to be be doing that well,
but that's just just my take on that. Okay. Let's see here
and it says and you're in the twenty seventeen NEC Okay, it says service
cable three out copper tn thwn, x HHW DAS two. It's not going
to be all three of those, so most of the time it's probably gonna
be either THHHN THWN DASH two or it's going to be XHHW DASH two.
Probably that just depends on which one you want to run. That's that's up
to you. Lastly, it says, my understanding is that I need to
run a AWG copper from the panel's main neutral bar to the first bushing lay
in inside or outside of the FMC over to the next bushing lane. I
say, if you want it to be totally continuous like that, perfectly fine
to do that. And you're in as far as sizing goes. If you're
doing this based on the fact that you've got the three out, which is
what you would use in two fifty one zero two. Uh. If you're
doing that, then you would look in see since you only have the one
race way, so you're gonna be in C one and so on the table
it looks like copper three out it would be absolutely would be a four gage.
That's two table two fifty one H two C one. Okay, So
that's the best advice I can give you on that one. But it sounds
like but that last statement, it sounds like you are on track for what
I would do. Now for everybody says that that what you have to worry
about is parallels things like that. Well, you remember, we can use
the neutral to bond all metal parts on the supply side. If we want
to two fifty one forty two permits us to do that. Okay, so
you know, keep keep that in mind, okay as well when you're when
you're thinking about ooh, these these things that you can do on the supply
side. Okay, all right, let's see here, oh see, okay,
see if we have another question. Okay, So the next question we
have presented, says Paul. If if suppose you are looking to build a
meter bank set up for three tenants using two thirty forty exception number two allowance,
and you're looking to size the neutral, where do you differentiate the neutral
size between the overhead service conductors down to the trough and the neutrals? You
sply to each smaller set of conductors that go to each one hundred to one
twenty five amp meter. Is there any way you can explain what note three
on the table two fifty one zero two C one means when it says or
equivalent size of the largest ungrounded supply conductors shall be determined by the largest sum
of the area of the corresponding conductors of each set. What is the area
referring to? Is it are we measuring a conductor? Yes, the area
would be the circular mills. Okay, it says I would like I would
think that I size the initial overhead service conductors that supply all three meters per
the calculated load, okay, and the neutral conductor for this for each set
would be plucked from this table based on the largest ungrounded conductor okay, to
that piece of equipment, to that service equipment. Yes, but then we
are we still doing the same when we drop the size of the wire from
the splice in the trough to the feed the meters? For example, would
you just size your wire for the load over current device to be used?
If I were if I were to install one hundred ANP meters for all three
and one hundred anp main breakers for each am I sizing my neutral based on
the one hundred and amp on grounded conductor? Or is Note three telling me
to calculate differently? Okay? So what we've got to do is we're going
to go look at two fifty one zero two C one and I will explain
it to you. So let me go to two point fifty one zero two
and let's see here. Okay, all right, so you're installing the application.
Oh first, let's go in and look at your application. So your
application is two thirty forty exception number two. So let's go look at that
first. That way we we have a good idea of what you're trying to
construct here, right, So we're going to go to two thirty dotty.
Hopefully you got your codebooks you can follow on, and we're looking at exception
number two. Okay, so exception number two read it now. By the
way, for those that don't know what two thirty dot forty is, this
is the number of service entrance conductor sets. So you have one service to
a building, but you are permitted, for example, to make a connection
to that one service drop. Let's say let's just use overhead drop or whatever
that's coming to a building. You're able to tap onto that and go to
different service disconnects all grouped in one location, right, or they don't have
to be grouped in one location. You could have this. An example of
this would be like an exception number one where it says, okay, you're
tapping to it, and then that those service entran conductors as long as they
stay outside of the building. Hell, they could wrap around the building and
then the moment they go to that individual dwelling unit, that's say, in
a multi family building, then you're limited to up to six, okay,
But these conductors stay outside of the building, so you're okay to make a
connection to the service drop, let's say. And then as long as their
service interesance conductors are outside, they can run around the building and then enter,
and then you have to meet all the rules of nearest point of entry
and all that kind of stuff. But that's that's an okay application. That's
exception number one. Exception number two to this says, we're two to six
service disinictum means in separate enclosures, and that's what he wants to do.
Are grouped in one location and they are remember he said it was coming to
a trough and then underneath it you had three one hund panels. Okay,
it says, and supply separate loads from one service drop. So it is
one drop coming down into or one overhead service conductors coming down into the trough
and then splicing onto it and then coming down to three different undernap service disconnects.
That's what he said he's doing, and that's what so far Exception number
two is allowing it says, so where two to six service discim can means
and separate enclosures are grouped in one location and supply separate loads from one service
drop one set of overhead service conductors, which is what he's doing, set
up underground service conductors or service laterals. One set of service in conductors shall
be permitted to supply each of several such service equipment and closures. So what
that's allowing me to do is to have one drop splice onto that come down,
whether it's underground, whether or not it's overhead or whatever. It's allowing
me to do that and have those three right there grouped in that one location
under that meter. So that's the exception number two that he's doing. Now
that exception, by the way, is to the rule that says you can
only have one set of service ins conductors. Obviously this is allowing me to
have what multiple sets, So typically they originate in one location and then it
separates out and hits up to six grouped in one location. So that's exception
number two. So we've established that. So now he's asking about the sizing
the ground to conductor. Now, first thing is to remember the grounded conductor
that's coming from the service point of attachment down. Okay, So in the
moment that it becomes part of the NEC, that point of attachment okay,
not the drop service drop that's outside of our scope. That's the utility code.
But once if it's an overhead service conductors, then it means that it
transitioned and so now it's under the NEEC. Or if it's from the point
of attachment down to that trough, that is now under the NEEC. So
it has to be sized accordance to the NEC. Now think about this.
Your rules in two twenty dot sixty one are going to tell us what that
we have to size based on what the calculated load and it's and when it
comes to the neutral which is what that deals with, is we're talking about
what to twenty dot sixty one tells me that I'm going to size the servicer
feeder neutral for the maximum unbalanced load determined by the Article two twenty calculation.
So we have to know what our neutral loads are. We we have to
know that first right now. One of the other things that we have to
be aware of is under two fifty we have some minimum rules that we have
to follow as well, which pretty much are not going to come into play,
but we will look at them just so you kind of get an understanding.
So we're gonna go look at two fifty dot twenty fours. We'll start
there, okay, and if you look into that and let me move down
here. Actually, let's move Actually, we're gonna look at D which is
two fifty twenty four D first, and that says the grounded conductor that's bought
to the service. Okay, so we have to have a grounded conductor brought
to the service, right, and then what you'll see is it says the
grounded conductor shall be installed in accordance with two fifty twenty four D one through
D four. Well, D one is talking about the sizing, right,
Okay, so the ground is so the D one says the ground and conductor
shall not be smaller than specified in table two fifty one zero two C one.
So even if we've got to do a load calculation, we already know
that the grounded conductor cannot be smaller than what's in this table based on what
the size of the ungrounded conductors. Okay, So in this scenario, if
the from the point of attachment down to the troth. It has to be
one calculated on what's the unbalanced load it's going to see, Well, it's
going to see the load from these three hundred and panels. So it assumes
to us that we have to do a load calculation for each one of these
panels. We have to know what it's going to be serving. Now I've
just throw this out there. If there are a hundred ant panels, then
plausible they could serve one hundred amps, not continuously, but one hundred ams.
Okay, So most people make their design simple. If it's three to
one hundred an panels, then they will size the conductors that are supply conductors
based on the possibility to the plausibility of three hundred amps. Now, at
the end of the day, it's really size based on your calculated load.
Okay, you have to know your loads. So sometimes the loads would be
much less than what the panel can carry. But when we're talking about the
neutral conductor, once we establish the size of those conductors from the point of
attachment to that troth which is going to be handling all of the neutral loads
across those three panels, once we find out what the actual calculation is for
the service for all of these panels, okay, and that's how you're going
to be sizing from the point of attachment down to the to the trough.
Once we do that, then we take those conductors and we've come over here
and we're looking at two fifty one zero two C one And then of course,
depending on whether it's you know, one OT, it would be a
you know, a minimum grounded conductor would be a six if it's one OT
copper. If it's four out aluminum, it's a minimum of four. But
here's the thing that's at least it has to be at least that size.
Chances are very highly probable that it's going to be much larger than that.
In fact, if you're using se cable, for example, the grounded conductor
is not required to be is can be up to two sizes smaller than the
ungrounded or hot conductors. So typically in an sc cable you have four hot
aluminum, and then what happens is the neutral will be equivalent to two ought
because there's a three ought in between it, and the neutral cannot be more
than two sizes smaller than the ungrounded conductors. And that's already done for us.
If you're you know the manufacturer takes care of that. When it comes
to sc cable, it's already been done for you. Okay, again,
don't confuse SEU and SCR. We're talking like an SCU. That that that
stranded helical. It's equivalent to a two lot when you gather everything together,
that type of thing, and that's something that's governed by the the UL standard
UL eight fifty four. It's already taken care of for you. And if
you're running the individual conductors, then you know that it can't be smaller from
the point of attachment down to that trough. It could not be smaller than
whatever the size of the conductors are that are handling. The total ungrounded conductor's
load means you calculated those conductors have to be based on the loads that are
going to be seen from all three panels. So you're going to have to
take a calculation from all three of these panels summation, and then you're going
to size your ungrounded conductor. Once you size that on grounded conductor, then
you come to two fifty one zero two see one, and it can't be
smaller than the table. However, you still got to know what your neutral
loads are because obviously to twenty dot sixty one said that the grounded conductor can
has to handle the maximum unbalanced load. So that means you have to calculate
what your neutral loads are, and we do that in our fast Tracks program,
uh and on our on our Wednesday Night sessions, I go over how
to calculate loads and the neutral and so you still got to do a calculation
now the point where you make the connection, and remember these aren't feeder taps,
these are just taps to service conductors. The point that you make that
connection and you're now supplying each individual unit, then you're actually sizing the grounded
conductor again based on two fifty one zero two c one, based on those
ungrounded conductors that's supplying the equipment. So it can't be any smaller than what
it would be in two fifty one zero two c one. Once you know
what those conductors are, and those conductors were sized is hot conductors. They
were sized to handle whatever the load is for that panel, that individual panel.
Okay, all right, make it clear. So yes, you would
size as the grounded conductor that's going from the tap down to the actual panel
based on the calculated load and the neutral would be sized based on the maximum
unbalanced load, but knowing that it can't be smaller than at least what's in
two fifty one zero two C one. So that's a minimum size requirement.
It's probably going to be larger because you have to do a load calculation in
order to achieve this. Now, lastly, you wanted me to explain what
note free was about. All right, And for those that are not familiar,
if you look underneath table two fifty one zero two, see one,
you'll see there's various notes. Now, these are not informational notes. These
are very applicable notes. They are to be always observed. We're applicable,
and they're not like an informational note, which is just good information. These
are mandatory. So number three, let me read you what it says.
It says, if there's no service entrance conductors, the supply conductor sizes shall
be determined by the equivalent size of the largest service inter conductor required for the
load to be served. So you still have to do a load calc Okay,
So these conductors could be coming in and they're not service entrance conductors.
They may be service laterals that are coming in under the building and then popping
up inside of a switch gear room. So by the concept here, since
its table is based on what the basic table is based on, the conductors
being what largest ungrounded conductors are equivalent in parallel. So basically what you're trying
to do here is say, well, you know what, they're not service
entrance conductors, okay, but they are supply conductors and when they come in
to the building in order to be able to determine the sizing that we can
use this table, then we basically just treat them as if they're service intriconductors,
determine what our load calculation is. And by the way, they could
be service laterals coming in. That's outside of the scope of the NEC when
it comes to sizing. So what this means is you have to forget what
the utility may do. You get to forget about it. What size would
you size them if you were doing this on any C installation, And then
once you establish the size you would need for the loads in question, then
you would go and pick the conductor and that's the conductor you're going to use
to go up here and use the table. So this little note is there
to help people when the utility may bring the service lateral in and they might
have something that's like a frickin' one OT and you're like, damn, the
NEC says it has to be a four OT. How do they get away
with that? Well, they can't because that's the utility and they based it
on other historical data and uses and all that kind of stuff. So you're
thinking, well, I can't use that with this table. So what the
Note three is telling you to do is, hey, pretend like they're service
conductors there, and you would size them. Ignore what's there. You determine
what size conductors you would need to handle the load calculation. Just like I
just explained a minute ago. You have to figure out what size they would
need to be, and then forget about what the utility brought you underground.
Pretend that they're service entrance conductors that you sized and pick the conductor, and
then you go to two fifty one zero two C one. That's what the
Note three is trying to depict, because again, you could have applications where
they're not service entrance conductors coming in. Okay, so anyway hopefully that you
know makes sense to you. So basically, if they're not service entrance conductor,
the service later ules. Forget what size utility did Okay, forget about
it. Try to determine what size service conductors you would have to have based
on your load calculation, and then use that size to use the table.
Ignore what the utility brought to you. Okay, that's what Note three is
trying to do. Okay, hopefully that makes sense to you. If I
didn't, what do I always say? Just let me know what episode it
is, and all you got to do is go to Paul Abernethy dot com
and just kind of give me a summary of what the question was, what
you want clarity on, let me know what code socle you're working on,
and then post your question. I'm not going to go back and listen to
the entire podcast, So give me a good summary of what you're really asking
or what you might have heard, and I will make it clear and then
we can move on from that. Okay, But in your question, none
of the example in two thirty forty exception number two, or none of the
first part of your question that you ask has anything to do with Note three,
by the way, Okay, all right, hopefully that answers your question.
So see if that'll be it for today, or it'll see if I
got the other one that Darlene has me scheduled to take care of. All
right, I got a quick one. Here's the last question that Darlene has
pointed out for me today. It says, Hello, I am the Michigan
Electrician looking to take my Journeyman test again. I was wondering what study material
you could recommend Michigan still testing on the twenty seventeen NEC. Unfortunately I cannot
afford your material, but I do have a codebook and a few books on
electrical theory and material as well as grounding and bonding. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks. Okay, I cannot help your financial situation. Sometimes
you have to invest in yourself, and you know what, that's why we
came out with some more cost effective type programs. But you are on the
twenty seventeen and we do not have a basic or enhanced version for that.
All we have is the Black or the Plus, which is more expensive.
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Secondary conductors, ten foot twenty five foot rule, talked about all that
even little tidbits that you can pull out from there really do benefit you.
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and oh oh so, the only other advice I can give you is find
yourself a good category of practice questions. And they don't all have to be
sterling, but find you some and basically find them and go over them and
really hone in on it and get used to dissecting a question. Don't be
in such a hurry to answer a question. I've tell this to everybody out
there. Don't get you one hundred question database or whatever at two hundred question
database and try to answer them all so quickly. That is not the goal
of studying for an exam. The goal is to take your time on each
question. Pull out your clock if you want to time yourself, wait until
the last two weeks before you take an exam. But up until that time,
if it takes you ten minutes to answer a question, that is okay,
folks, Okay, I tell people this all the time. Do not
listen to educators that give you this bullshit about getting timed quizz and trying to
do them as quickly. That does not help you. All that does is
elevate the stress. Take a question, beat the question to death. Use
your index, use your table of contents, look up every word, find
out what could have gotten you the answer. It's going to be your way
of what I call the poor man's way of studying for an exam. Don't
be so quick to just answer questions in a database. You paid good money
for it. Use it, milk it. Extract everything you can get from
the question so that it not only helps you answer the question, but let
you learn what's in the index, let you learn what's in the table of
contents. It helps you in your maneuvering skills back and forth, because I
can tell you right now, if you're not familiar with using the index and
going back and forth, you can be very slow. But the more you
practice this, this is why our programs are fast tracks programs. We use
these chevrons. It's to pull you from the course into the NEC, back
to the course, back to the NEC. If you think that I'm just
doing that, it's being done for a reason. It's to help you move
back and forth. And whether you know it or not. We're subconsciously trying
to get you more comfortable with moving in and out of the codebook. That's
the whole purpose of why we do it. Okay, all right, so
good luck. Hopefully you'll you say again. So that means by the time
you probably always tell this to people, by the time you fail some exams
and pay the fees, you probably could have gotten a course and then pass
it the first time and you would have actually learned something in the process,
and that goes a long way. There's a difference between just passing a test
and actually learning something, and that's where structured programs come into play. All
right, folks, that's it for this Let's ask Paul for this week.
So if again, if you have any questions that you want to submit to
me, all you got to do is go to Paul Abernathy dot com.
Yes it's still there, it's still active, it's still sponsored by Wicks,
and you get to ask me any question you want on the National Leuntric Code.
Just be sure to let me know the code cycle that you're working out
of. Be very descriptive in your question, because I'm only going to answer
what you give me as a question. Until next time folks stay, say
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