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Through your song again, macau Okay, so we're back in. Latest in

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the weather is it's you know,
probably a little slick on your morning commute

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if you're going to work today,
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from here, but there's been a
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We had meteorologist Kevin Smith from NBC
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he was like, Dude, I
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just kind of school closings and rough
traffic things like that. Said is gonna

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stay in the teens. So you
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and there's no snow on it because
all of the tires and the friction and

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the heat of the automobiles has melted
at all. Yeah, but when that

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traffic goes away overnight, it's not
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on those overpasses freezing ice. Oh
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being you know, comedy first responders. We're up before everybody. We're

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gonna be the first ones to hit
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we'll give you a report. Yeah, I'm gonna leave a little early tomorrow.

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I think yah, just in case, so where you will in thirty

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minutes give you a chance to win
MAVs tickets. The number UH is we're

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opening the phones for you. This
houn just wake up call here two one

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four eight one seven seven eight seven
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If you want a chance for MAVs
tickets, I would say nine thirty would

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be your time to go ahead and
call and you'll try to get on board

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and you'll pick one of us.
We will emmy emmy preview for tonight.

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But if you want to weigh in
and you're pissed about what's happening from a

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coaching situation with the Cowboys, this
would be your time. And if you

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want to twist off or maybe you
want to defend Mike McCarthy, Dan quinn

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and the gang, go ahead.
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seven. I'm gonna replay the audio
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deafender, Yeah, yeah, people
like Greg the leg Well this is we'll

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played a minute to go for you, and we'll hear from Jason Garrett in

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a second Jerry as well. But
here's Greg Old on yesterday's Fox broadcast on

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what the Cowboys should do. I
always think an interesting test anytime there's these

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conversations. And again I'm going to
be the first to go on record,

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I think the conversation about replacing Mike
McCarthy is crazy. First of all,

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Again, I know a lot of
people came at us for even discussing that

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last Tuesday if they lose. And
the reason I disagree with Greg thoroughly here

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that it's not crazy, and that's
with coworkers and listeners saying I can't believe

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you are talking about that, is
because Jerry allowed this to be a topic.

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He had a chance to smash it
and say Mike McCarthy's my coach next

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year, and he doesn't do it, despite signing these people to five year

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deals. And he doesn't do it, and he could have. And that's

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why I think there is a little
more, a little less wiggle room than

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usual. Here. We've seen a
guy not want to make coaching changes for

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a lot of it for a long
time, giving Garrett a lot of extra

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rope. So here's the rest of
the olden clip to talk. So I'm

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let me just preface it by saying
that. But I always think the best

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exercise is if you let go your
coach, would anyone else hire him?

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I think the answer Mike McCarthy is
clear. I think teams would jump over

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themselves to hire him to have this
level of consistent success. So if the

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answer that question is yes, that
answers, come on, does it with

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that logic? I mean, then
for you to fire your coach, you

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would have to be convinced that if
you did fire him, that he would

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never work again. That is the
stupidest thing that I've ever heard him say.

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And he's usually a pretty I don't
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even keeled, measured dude when it
comes to talking football, for sure.

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But that is the dumbest logic that
I've ever heard in my life. Well,

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do you guys think that if McCarthy's
fired tomorrow he will be immediately doing

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interviews and likely be the head coach
at one of the eight current available head

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coaching or seven, I guess with
the Patriots if he wants to. I

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think there's enough desperate franchises who have
not had any stability who would love to

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have him. Washington, Carolina.
I think that I think he makes more

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sense for it. I think it
makes sense more sense for a team like

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that than he ever made sense for
the Cowboys. Who is can pay anyone

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whatever? And dude, McCarthy was
not hired. He didn't take a year

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off from football and sit in the
barn. That was a puff piece by

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Tom Pellisero of the NFL Network,
who used to cover the Packers in Green

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Bay. He had a relationship with
McCarthy. McCarthy did the thing I watch

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every single game, and then he
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Okay, and Steven did the awkward
laugh. It was all a puff

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piece by McCarthy. Was not hired. He was the Jets chose Adam Gase

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over him, and then he had
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You remember that meme the Bills went
with and what was his name, Freddy

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Kitchens I think was the coach they
went with at the time, like no

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one wanted McCarthy then. Now there
wasn't as many head coach openings. Okay,

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Now the year after that, a
few more openings come up. I

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think we're right at this time,
though, this is where I go.

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You can't go backwards. Jerry can't
go backwards. He doesn't like that,

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and he didn't have salacious names like
this Jim Harball, Bill Belichick, And

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I am not telling you those guys
are upgrades. I don't know, I

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truly don't and what comes with that
personnel control? And I think you you

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do a pretty good job of drafting
players the Patriots don't. I don't know

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that I trust Jim Harball to come
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lot of Satan personnel like I don't
know if that's gonna go well. So

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I'm not telling you this is an
upgrade. I don't know what the answer

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is. I wish I did.
McCarthy's good enough to get you to the

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playoffs. We know that Dak's good
enough to get you the playoffs. We

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know that another team absolutely would want
McCarthy about ten millions about what he's making

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his last year of his five year
contract. That you've never had to give

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him five years in the first place. But that's how you do business here,

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and that's how we do things here. We've always done it this way.

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So here's five years done terrible.
You should have done three or four.

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Either way. Belichick's gonna command twenty
five million? Is Jerry willing to

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eat thirty five million to make this
happen, because that's how much that equation

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goes, is it, Jim Harball? Jim Harball command what twenty million?

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Maybe there's already talked that Lions off
its coordinator Ben Johnson will get fifteen.

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Now, none of that counts on
the salary cap, so maybe Jerry doesn't

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care about that stuff. Yeah,
I don't think the money matters to Jerry

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right now, between fifteen or twenty
five million for the coach. Look,

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I can't believe we're saying this,
and I am try to try to be

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level headed. And three straight twelve
win seasons is lovely, and thirty NFL

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teams would dream. Hell, all
including us in the Garrett era, would

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dream of three straight twelve win seasons. Today is a hard day to have

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this discussion because if you just take
yourself out of this for a moment,

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the emotions of yesterday and think you've
got three straight twelve win seasons and two

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NFC championships, that's good. This
is a well coached team that's consistent.

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But we're not. We're today and
yesterday happened, and I absolutely think they

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should fire Mike McCarthy. And I'm
levelheaded dude. Honestly, like I try

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to always be fair, and I'm
not a passionate Cowboy fan either. I

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think they should fire Mike McCarthy and
I think they should be on the phone

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with Bill Belichick right now. I
kind of agree, and I'm not saying

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like I think that is what this
team should do. Yeah, you have

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probably the greatest coach, modern coach
in NFL history just sitting there. You

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have a perfect scenario of opportunity.
Now, I would think with Belichick,

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and I know he's got all the
leverage. Still you tell him we have

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a man named Will McLay who we
love and trust as far as player evaluation

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is. The buck will not stop
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that's a deal breaker or a non
starter, fine, then it's not gonna

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work. Because Bill Belichick is not
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And everyone's quick to say, all
right, well fine, look at him

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without Tom Brady. Look what he's
done the last few years. They're at

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least offensively. Roster is garbage.
How did they win four games this year?

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I almost applaud them for that,
and I looked at their depth chart

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and like, I hate to do
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loaded. Cowboys have great players everywhere, but they kind of do, especially

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compared to the damn Patriots. Bailey
Zappi, Mac Jones, Dak Prescott is

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better than them, Ezekiel Elliott.
You better think that your running backs better

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than them. And they had what
Ramandra Steven said, he got hurt.

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I mean, you could argue that
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Devonte Parker to Mario Davis, Mario
Mario Douglas. Douglas, Yeah, who

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had zero touchdowns on the season,
and that's your receiving corps. We're better

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there, O line, we're better. I mean, I think a fourth

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rounder is there highest drafted offensive line
right now? And you're gonna say,

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oh, their offense sucks, They're
offense sucks. You get Bill Belichick,

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this crew, it's better. And
I know he's a defensive dude, but

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still, I don't know how you
don't really consider this. And I really

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wonder what the Star offices look like
today, or how that video call works

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or if Jerry's like, hey,
we're doing the get together today and who

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makes these decisions? But dude,
it should happen. It should happen,

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they should fire him and do it. Bill would be interested too. I

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do believe that. And I know
people say Bill didn't want to put up

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with a lot of stuff done he
does with Robert Kraft. Robert Craft wasn't

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staying out of it. He was
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think where you can hedge with Bill's
say, look, Will mcclay's still going

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to sit in the middle of that
triangle coaches, scouting and the front office.

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Okay, up at the top of
the period, and he's just sitting

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in the triangle, in the middle
of it, making the calls, taking

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all the information and piecing it together. It doesn't mean coaches don't get their

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players every now and then. Dan
quinn got his player. Yeah he got

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Mazzie Smith. No, you still
got a vote. Mike McCarthy got his

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player, he got Luke schoon Maker
like it all kind of ends up that

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way. And it was like that
way when Marinelli was here. We're not

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saying stay out of the room when
we have this discussion. Highly evolved,

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but you're not just the one dude
buying the grocery. Yes, and I

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think he might be in on that, I really do, especially the money,

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and he may go, look,
they haven't done it in thirty years.

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I'll be the one that does it. And speaking of thirty years,

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this story's popping up a lot is
the alleged meeting between Jerry Jones and Bill

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Belichick from thirty years ago, essentially, which I do think is kind of

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interesting. So Jerry Jones recounted this
a couple of years back, and he

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said he met Belichick by chance in
nineteen ninety five at a ski resort in

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Colorado where Belichick had just been fired
as the Cleveland coach, and they had

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a conversation. He's like, I
couldn't tell who he was, and then

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he raised his goggles up and know
his Bill he no longer had a job.

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He'd been with Cleveland. They let
him go, and Jones says,

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Belichick said, I can coach if
you ever get an opportunity. Don't forget

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about me. And Jerry Jones has
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he's thought about that conversation a whole
lot of times in his life. I

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also think it's funny that Belichick is
like, remembered it a little differently,

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but he's like, but I do
remember We're in snow mass and JayR He's

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there with a big white jacket and
a giant blue star on it. I'm

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just picturing Jerry going skiing dress as
a Arctic cowboy. Well, hey,

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do you think what one franchise gave
Ezekiel Elliott a chance? Yeah? The

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story back in June was that Bill
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anything left. I mean, that's
the story. I don't know if it's

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true or not, but I think
they have a respectful relationship too. Through

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all these years and being in some
of the same places. I think this

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is not crazy. This is and
it was kind of crazy a week ago.

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Maybe you know what might happen.
The Eagles might lose tonight and Sirianni

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might get fired and we might be
doing exactly what we did with whoever the

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hell that linebacker was. It was
a deciding between the Cowboys and Eagles,

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and next week at this time,
we might be doing the Oh my god,

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Belichicks, coulda choose me the Cowboys
and Eagles? Yeah, that could

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be happening. You're right, And
I don't know if this is as important,

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but I think to Jerry it's very
important. But as a calming settling

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the fan base, pr move acting
now like today or tomorrow, and firing

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McCarthy and hiring Belichick, all of
this conjecture and and bluster that's going on

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on Twitter in Cowboy Nation, that
is quelled pretty freaking quick. We got

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something new to talk about, exactly, You got something new to talk about,

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and it gets that mindset change that
we're not just gonna repeat this again

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next year. We have the same
players, but with this kind of leadership.

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And I think this goes in hand
in hand with that fiery ass speech

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that Jimmy made at halftime, because
we all sat here looking at each other

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going if that was going on at
halftime, if they have that kind of

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leadership of or that kind of personality
driving this team rather than mumblemouth ding dong

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running the thing, maybe maybe you
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and take it a little more seriously
than the Cowboys did, and it might

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change the damn culture around here a
little bit. To have a hard ass.

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Maybe that's what this thing needs.
Maybe they've been Mike McCarthy doesn't come

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off as a hard ass at all, and I think Dan Quinn is walking

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no matter what so I think we
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over and be the head coach.
I think he watched that game yesterday from

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that booth and said, yep,
I'm out. How has that gone this

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quickly? Though, because we thought
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this thing goes south, McCarthy gets
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is, you know, the prince
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years. Yeah, but now nobody
wants that here. Well, the defense

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was the worst part of the team
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mouth. I'm just talking about as
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is the answer. It's weird.
He may answer more questions than just that

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the Jay Glazer gets. Maybe it's
just because he's his affiliation with UFC and

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all that for fighting and all that
stuff. But he's very respected and knows

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this stuff, and yesterday he was
saying dan quin will still be, yeah,

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like one of the hottest head coaching
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to consider and you're retooling some of
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coach. I don't know. Let's
go before I play this, garretself.

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Let's go to Doug. Doug is
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Don't hear what the Cowboys? Can't
that say? Hi, Doug?

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How's it going fine? Hey?
I just one thing. God, I

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don't think this is as difficult to
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to be. They haven't won a
Super Bowl since nineteen ninety five, and

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they've run how many coaches through that
place? They've had great players? What's

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the common denominator? Jerry Jones?
Jerry Jones is the problem. But that

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ain't changing, Doug. Hold on
a second, I'm gonna catch up for

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one second. Staying with me that
that's not changing. We can't like that's

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we're just gonna end up doing,
you know, playing with each other.

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There's Wieners here, hello, because
like that's not changing. So that's here

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until he's dead. That is here
and then his son will get it.

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So what else? Yeah, no
argument, I mean, I'm just I'm

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just saying it's what thirty five years
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gonna change until that changes because he's
not going off. Any owner that feels

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like he needs to get on TV
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own radio show undermines any coach that's
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also tell you this, well,
I agree Jerry is not as involved as

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he has been. He is not
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culture of the Patriots fellows years was
Bill Belichick. It wasn't the ownership.

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And maybe he's just this super nova
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one year into being the Cowboys coach
he can supersede the culture that Jerry Jones

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has created over thirty years, or
if he's just a fish out of water.

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Yeah, you know, like,
I don't know that Bill Belichick walks

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in here and the culture changes.
And I think you have the Devin mccordy

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audio, Yeah, because I actually
like that where it was real simple.

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Didn't you just say that would never
have happened if Bill Belichick's your coach.

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A team does not walk onto a
playoff field, especially a home run,

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in perfect conditions, ill prepared and
seeming like they don't belong there. That

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doesn't happen under Belichick. It's my
favorite clip of body of all this stuff

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is you're gonna hear Garrett first,
and Garrett's going to explain what the first

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forty eight hours are like. Okay
after this because he knows he's been fired

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before, right or mutually parted ways. And then you're gonna hear Devin mcorty,

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who play for Belichick. This is
good, Jason Garrett, you obviously

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know Jerry Jones, so well,
what'd you make of his comments? You

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know, I think they were actually
on point for him, clearly very emotional,

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but I thought he was poised in
this situation. He's very disappointed in

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this team. I think he had
sites that this could be a team that

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could reach the Super Bowl. But
he will support the coaches, he will

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support the players here in the next
twenty four to forty eight. But after

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that, they're going to have some
internal discussions. If it doesn't feel like

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the team has achieved as potential,
what changes do we need to make.

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I don't know what those are,
but something's coming if they make a change.

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Mike Florio said, the pregame show
a name to watch Stevin mccordy,

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Bill Belichick, and if Bill Belichick
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This team will never show up for
a playoff game like that. That's one

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thing I promise you. But I
do think if they had the opportunity to

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get coach Belichick in there, you
don't turn that down. This is where

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we are, that is, and
I don't think it's just radio screaming the

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day after a playoff loss, Like
I really think you have a coach that

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gets it done. Yeah, and
I know they've not been good for a

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few years, but I just told
you their roster is a joke. Yeah,

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and you need a quarterback, you
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the debate on if we have a
quarterback. Fine, but I don't think

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anyone wrong. Geez, I don't
know what the Danny situation is right now.

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He's at least a good NFL quarterback. I think everyone can agree on

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that. I mean, Dak is
in line to reset the quarterback mark again

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and be the icebayed quarterback. And
that's gonna drave people crazy around here.

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But that's just how it works at
quarterback. And I'm telling you, you've

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all watched football games this year and
watched teams without a quarterback. You'll take

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your dack. And that's why I
was like, are we better off bitching

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about a twelve team, a twelve
win team than a four win team?

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Yeah? I think we are.
But how risky do you want to get?

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How risky do just Jerry want to
get? At eighty one? I

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don't think imploding this thing makes sense. I do think it's a good roster.

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Is it up there to win it? No? But I think you

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can add it if you do things
the right way. A couple savvy moves,

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good draft. I think you can
get pretty close to where you're kind

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of going here. But this is
the big difference in last time. Last

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time, we were talking Matt Ruhle
from Baylor, we were talking Lincoln Riley,

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we were throwing out with Belichick gets
out of his deal there, and

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we were talking Sean Payton. Okay, that does not stack up to Bill

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Belichick. Laugh at me if you
want, but he just retired. Nick

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Saban, Laugh at me if you
want, because he's out. Pete Carroll,

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Jim Harball, Mike Rabel, you
know, huge head. Can't get

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over how big his head is.
You don't want to coach having that big

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of a head. Doesn't Mike it
is. Bruce Bocher has like the largest

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head in baseball history. It's because
he does that that photograph trick by sticking

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his head real, Ha's huge neck
waddle. If you right now, sports

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gun to my brain, who's the
head coach at Alice Cowboys next year?

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And I have to boy, I
don't know. I would take McCarthy,

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but I will say Mike Rabel because
I think there might be headbutting with the

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Belichick thing and the whole who buys
the groceries. I think this is a

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very good team. I do this
analogy a lot, but I think it

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fits. It's a very nice shoe
and the shoelace is just untied and flapping

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about, and you need someone to
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And I think it's a good enough
shoe team that if the lass were

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tired properly, this team, yes, could make a run at winning the

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whole damn thing. I fully agree, But if not, you're stumbling all

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over yourselves. And Bill Belichick's going
to tighten that shoe. Real. The

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Dallas Cowboys since their last Super Bowl
win, they've there's been twenty seven years,

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twenty seven seasons. They've made the
playoffs. Less than fifty percent of

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those times. They made the playoffs
thirteen times in twenty seven years, and

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out of those thirteen playoff appearances,
only five of them got them to the

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divisional round, which they lost all
of those games. The rest of them,

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all other eight have been wild card
losses, first round and done and

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this is the most recent. So
my point is, you've got to do

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something big. And I Rabel,
I like, I like it, but

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it's just to the fans. To
me, it's like, okay, all

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these it is Rabel any different as
far as impact than Dorothy I mean,

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Belichick and dudes play hard for him, whatever the hell that. But don't

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you need to bring in a reputation
as well? I think so. But

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are all these available coaches right now
sitting on their couch and after yesterday's game

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going, oh, and are they
all I thought about Mike Vrabel suddenly say

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Dallas A yeah, when he was
thinking Carolina yesterday maybe when he woke up,

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Yeah, no, New England's done. Yeah, I know. But

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at the time when we left,
it was like that was open and it

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was thought he might want that job. I mean, the allure, a

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misstate whatever it is of the Cowboys
is it still powerful enough to in the

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minds of all these available coaches,
including Belichick. It fools millions of fans.

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Ye, maybe it fools some coaches
too. Interesting here's what Dax said

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too, because something big. Maybe
it's not the coach, maybe it's the

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quarterback. I don't personally believe that, but I think it is up for

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debate. I'm wondering if Dak's going. Dak knows the power of being here

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in his emotional that he wants to
be here and get settled in here.

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Does a kid coming next year?
But think of listen to this quote after

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the game, Dak said, I
don't know how there could be speculation talking

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about Mike McCarthy, but I understand
the business. In that case, there

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should be about me as well.
I understand it's about winning the Super Bowl.

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That's the standard of the league and
damn sure the standard of this place.

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I get it. But add me
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that's that's a dude that knows how
to play the game being kind of fake

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accountable. Yeah, I don't buy
that at all. That's a guy saying

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the right things because he's really really
good at that. We had a text

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or Dak is the problem. Cooper
Rush would have won this game. No,

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it wouldn't have. Mike McCarthy coach
saff not the problem, and that

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a bunch of doesn't matter. It's
all on Jerry, which I mean.

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Doug's right. That's the ultimate I
think it. It's almost the ultimate goes

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without being said thing, and that's
why I was a dick to our caller,

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Doug. And Doug I'd like to
say, I apologize, and I

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hope that you have Dale safe travels
today, not Dale travels that'd be bad

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out there. You want to take
us the Italian Food Fest and Grapevine don't

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have those, not yet, not
yet. But do you want tickets to

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the MAVs? Do I? Because
if you do, I do, then

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the number that you need to know
right now is two one four or eight

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callers, put you on hold.
You will pick one of us. We're

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gonna have a little chance for you
to win MAVs tickets. We'll give you

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the latest on the weather and all
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