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Meanwhile, we just have eight million
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have no idea who these people are. And they're not watching them. No,

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nobody's watching them. Is Donald Trump
running the police agencies of the government?

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Answer? No, he wasn't even
doing it in his own presidency.

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The police agencies of the government were
after him in his own term. Welcome

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to another deep dive edition of the
Chicks on the Right podcast. We are

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so excited because we have our old
friend, old dear friend, not that

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you're old, but like one of
our old dear friends with us today,

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Denesse DESUSA filmmaker extraordinary, and he
is back to talk about his latest film,

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Police State with us, and we're
super excited. We both obviously watched

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the film and we're like, I
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it. But before we like sort
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the nitty gritty about the film,
we wanted you to have an opportunity to

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tell our audience how they can see
it, because apparently there's some ways that

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you had tried to make it viewable
for people that are no longer available to

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them. Tell us about that.
Well, I'm finding that the level of

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intolerance in the society is rising.
And so, for example, my earlier

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films, you could buy DVDs at
Amazon or Walmart, pretty standard stuff.

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Walmart even started out as a conservative
company out of Ventonville, Arkansas. But

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what's happened is that you've got a
lot of leftists who have now infiltrated these

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companies and they're involved in the purchasing
process, and so they just block you.

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It's not that they give you a
reason. They don't say, oh,

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you know, the film is a
band topic, because it isn't.

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They don't say, oh, there's
been a fact check that exposes the film

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as having all these errors. There's
been nothing like that. They've been a

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couple of left wing critiques of the
film, but they haven't said anything in

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the film is inaccurate. So there
is no rationale at all. But what

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they're basically saying is we're doing it
because we can. And so as a

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result, we are selling our DVDs
through Shopify, also through Salem which is

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Salem Now. And the one stop
shop to stream the movie or get DVDs

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is police statefilm dot net, So
not dot com, police statefilm dot Net.

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Okay, I'm really good. Ye
okay, hey, you know that

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because everybody judges. You see.
I like staying in my house where nobody

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sees me, and then when I
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u cel dot com slash shs.
And not just that alone feeds into a

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lot, not a lot, but
just basically what the film is about.

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I mean a lot of like the
different just the different topics. My god,

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this like every time I see one
of your films, I think this

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is the best film that he's done, and then the next one that I

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see, I'm like, well,
this is the best one that he's done,

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And like, this is definitely the
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Because I was riveted the whole time. I was also I have to

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admit a little depressed. I walked
away and I was like, I'm kind

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of sad at the state. I
mean, I'm sure that wasn't your intent,

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but I was. But I did
walk away thinking what am I going

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to do? Because this country is
in such trouble, and you know,

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we have children, and I think
the state of our country is in such

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peril. I worry so much every
day for all of my children and how

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are we going to turn this ship
around? And it's just we are in

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such a state to Nash that I
just guys, as we're speaking, the

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FBI is conducting a man hunt in
which they are they have helicopters, they

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have armored vehicles, they are coal
me the rural areas of New Jersey to

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find what a serial killer, a
terrorist, no, a guy who pemper

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sprayed the cops on January sixth of
twenty twenty one. This guy, apparently

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the cops were like, you know, raining blows down on the protest,

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or is this guy almost instinctively whips
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fine, you know, there's a
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treating this as if it's some kind
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hunt. The media has been notified. It's an ongoing news story. This

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is just this is really police state
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rampant criminality in a major cities.
There are people being assaulted, murdered,

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drive by shootings, no problem.
The FBI is completely indifferent to all that

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anarchy. And meanwhile, this is
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So do you do when you went
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were you making it hoping that you
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be made, or were you like
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I'm curious, you know, because
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there's a reason to make this now. But you interviewed so many people.

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Jim Jordan was in there, Dan
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film. Did you feel like you
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this is way worse than I thought? Or was it as bad as you

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expected. It's more that I noticed
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happening, but they were happening in
isolation. Digital censorship over here, political

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targeting over there, the Trump cases
over here, January sixth, over there,

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narrative, and that is that it
is we are seeing a police state in

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the process of formation. Now it's
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it were, I grant that I
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to make. Movie is called police
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in a police state that's not fully
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margin of freedom. And so I
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movie as a warning. Now.
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have two kinds of guys in this
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foremants, people who know the origins, the genealogy, the architecture, the

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structure of this police state, how
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type of guy one in the movie
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about their life and in some cases
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Moms who are upset about what their
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bam, they come face to face
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a result, the movie has a
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how it's organized, who's in charge
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kind of detailed profiles of normal Americans
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on the human So I knew this
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an unnerving movie. But I said, you know, I'm a little bit

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like the animal and the herd and
the fellow antelopes, so like grazing really

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lazily, and I see like a
predator behind the bush. So I have

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to issue a warning. We can
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we recognize the gravity of the situation. So it's necessary. I think it's

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necessary. And I was just going
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was imperative that you did include the
normal people because that's who spoke to me

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the most, especially like the moms
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moms with the school board, especially
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Because I thought to myself, those
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is me. And when she said, you know, there was a woman

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that you interviewed in the movie,
and she was like that you're next.

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You could be next. If they
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down my door and come in and
question me and do the things they did

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to me, they can do it
to you, and I thought, oh

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my god, you know you're right. They could to that to me,

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They could do it to anybody.
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that's what the regular, everyday people, that's what struck me the most,

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because I think a lot of people
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well, that happens to other people. That happens to the important people,

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the elitist, it won't happen to
me. But it is happening to

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everyday people. And I think that's
what's so alarming. Yeah, and also

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alarming. And this is kind of
a subtle dimension in the film, but

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it's very much there. There are
ordinary people who are at the FBI,

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and they are ordinary people who are
in the DHS. So ordinary people are

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doing censorship, doing political targeting.
It's an ordinary guy who's somehow convinced to

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go into the apartment of a seventy
year old grandmother and like pull her hair

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to the ground and twist her arms
behind her back and pull her down the

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stairs as she resists, and sometimes
the anchor to the street they've helpfully tipped

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off the media so they can humiliate
her on the news. So I ask

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myself in making this film like,
how do you get a decent person to

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do something so vile and indecent?
And the answer is really that what the

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government does, what the police day
does, is they never tell you the

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ultimate goal. Hey, we're trying
to crush the spirit of this maga grandmother.

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No, they don't say that.
They just go listen, we have

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an arrest and this person is targeted
for a rest and we like to use

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the shock and awe so that we
surprised them in the morning they can't go

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for their gun, not that some
seventy old grandmama is going to go for

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a gun. So they operationalize the
procedure and they make it sound like to

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be successful. We want no resistance. We want this to be conducted very

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efficiently. And if you do,
you're a good FBI man. You are

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one of the boys. You can
feel like you're on the inside track for

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a promotion. There could be a
bonus at the end of the year.

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You're going to retire with a nice
pension. So all of these very mundane

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human motives am mobilized by the police
DAI to produce some pretty horrific actions.

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So how do you at the end, you know when it sort of all

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culminates and you talk about the fact
that listen, we're you know, we

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haven't crossed that red line yet,
we need to work together to make sure

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that we don't. What what would
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Because I got to say when at
the end of it, I was just

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like, well, that feels super
hopeless. How do you how do you

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motivate people or what can people do
to actually combat this because it does seem

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to be happening at this really rapid
pace and it's startling, like how quickly

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our country is changing. So what
would you tell people that they can do

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or how they can take action?
The two most important things that you could

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do. There are some individual things
you can do, but like a lot

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of times, you're dealing with a
problem, and this was just as true

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of like election fraud. There's some
things you can do. You can sign

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up to be a pole watcher,
you can sign up to be a pole

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observer, so you doing your part. But we also need to have institutional,

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legislative policy type of solutions. So
for example, censorship is going to

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have to be stopped by the court. Now there's a big Supreme Court case

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coming up next spring I'm actually pretty
hopeful they will do that. They will

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administer a dropkick to this kind of
systematic censorship that the government is actively involved

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in. Some of the censorship will
continue, but it's they're just going to

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withdraw the government's grubby hands from it, and that alone will be will be

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progress. I think one of the
things that people can do is stiffen the

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spine of the Republican Party, because
the Republican Party is the party that stands

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in the way of the police date. Now, some of them are a

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little bit in with the police date, I grant that, but by and

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large the Republicans aren't doing it,
except that they found a kind of drinking

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spot, if you will, in
the swamp, and so as a result

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they're like, Okay, fine,
while I'm here, I might as well

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take a sip. But mostly it's
fear. They're afraid that they will be

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targeted, They're afraid of the media. So so taking the invertebrates in the

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Republican Party and saying, guys,
you actually have the power to stop a

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lot of this if you will only
take collective joint action to do that,

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and then you know what a lot
of it is spreading the word about the

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film, because look, people are
like, well, I you know,

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I can't create all this messaging myself. I'm like, don't bother. I've

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already done it. I've created it. I've put a story together, you

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know, and the power of a
film and you got you guys know this.

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I'm not telling you. What you
don't know is it's a whole different

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thing to be told about something than
to show it to you. I can

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tell you I grew up in India. You're like, okay, well I

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know about India, but you still
don't have any good idea of what my

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life was like. Until I show
you some videos of me as a kid

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and this was the house I grew
up in and that was a school.

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Then you're like, wow, that's
really what it was like. And so

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a film can bring it home to
you in not only an intellectual but an

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this film, like a whole lot. And plus I would add to that

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our Second Amendment rights or don't ever
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that we can do because a disarmed
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get that, then we are screwed. But that's when we are really screwed.

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film too, And that's something that
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are constantly pushing for that, and
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was eye opening for me because you
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you actually don't have guns, India, and so I always thought that the

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real reason and to have a gun
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which is the danger of tyranny.
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if someone wants to do a home
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cops, but most likely the cops
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so you need to have some way
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interestingly, as I began to study
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on our liberties, the wisdom of
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as a precaution against tyranny becomes much
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so, it was I'm sorry,
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there was I can't remember if it
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I was looking at your detractors because
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movie like yours, where I'm really
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I'm impacted by it, I want
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ridiculous people saying out there? And
I had to laugh that whichever I think

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it was, Mother Jones. The
article said, well, he didn't even

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really tell on the actual police state, which is represented best by Breonna Taylor

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and George Floyd, And I was
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these people don't even know the definition
of police state. And I could

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not believe that that was the criticism. But At the same time, I

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was like, this is all they
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the left that are at least at
starting to feel some of the concern because

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this affects all of us. Yeah, now, the pundits on the left,

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they have a line, and in
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movie where I say that you know, some of these guys when you talk

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to them, they're like, oh, yeah, Danish, there is a

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police state and it's its symbol is
Donald Trump. He is the one who

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is like unleashing the police agencies of
the government. And of course says you

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know, this is addressed in the
film. I go, wait a minute,

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yes, it is true that by
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state. The guys who are in
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ones running the police state. So
just ask yourself an honest question, whatever

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politics, is Donald Trump running the
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No, he wasn't even doing it
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of the government were after him in
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the line in the film. I
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police agencies, he's running away from
them. They're all after him. They've

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got like ninety plus charges on him, So right away that you see somebody

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else is running the police date.
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movie, is you know, by
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the police state. It's it's g
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Mallahs in Iran, it's it's Castro
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police state? And here it gives
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very bizarre situation. We have a
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says things like they told me I
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you know, or where do I
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who's like in the canoe, but
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that brings an even more disturbing question, well, like who's running the country.

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What's the home that is actually whispering
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Our government right now, our leadership
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like it's well, we just I
think a lot of people do. People

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just wonder it's it's Obama behind the
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There's somebody, there's somebody else.
We all know it's not Biden.

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He doesn't have the mental capacity to
do it. So there's somebody else or

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a team of people that are probably
doing that. And so it's you're right,

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it's people wonder who it is and
what plan they have and what this

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like great reset means and all of
the stuff, you know, behind the

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scenes that's going step back and take
the big picture in for a second.

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You know, like what's the police
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police date? Well you can answer
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examples we have abroad. If a
police date China, North Korea, let's

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say the old Soviet Union. So
what do those countries have in common.

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Well, they have mass surveillance of
citizens. They have systematic censorship, they

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have ideological indoctrination and propaganda in the
schools and the media. They have criminalization

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of political differences. They try to
lock up the opposition leader, they go

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after religious liberty, they have political
prisoners. So wow, kind of go

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down that checklist and ask how many
of those like eight things do we see

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in America? Almost all of them? Yeah, and to one degree or

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another. And that's why this is
a very legitimate topic. And in fact,

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even the left is reluctant to say, no, this is not a

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legitimate issue because there's been a ras
Musen survey and I got to be full

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disclosure. I put them up to
it. I'm like, you know what,

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ask the American people what they think
about this, and Rasmusen did and

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two thirds of Americans are more,
go, yeah, this is very alarming.

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We are we do seem to be
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state in the way that I just
defined. Hmmm. Yeah, it's sad.

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It's sad when with Seve, when
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Like it's for real, when that
you had that lovely lady that was

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from North Korea, and when you
start seeing your country, When I start

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seeing America being compared North Korea,
that's when I'm like, we've got to

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do something. And it seems like
such an obvious time for Republicans to make

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some headwinds, you know, so
like take on actually make some progress and

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take more seats and win more elections, and we're seeing just the opposite.

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What is is what do you make
of that the Republican Party is in such

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a mess? I mean, seventy
Republicans seven zero in the House just voted

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to give the FBI three hundred million
dollars to build a spectacular new headquarters.

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Now you can't set if you have
any leverage over this agency where you say,

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listen and guys, this is unacceptable. You cannot do this to American

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citizens. And frankly, you're not
going to get one dollar for your new

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building. I remember the houses in
charge of appropriations, they have the power

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to stop this. And yet what
is it but sending the FBI a message

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of encouragement and this is Republicans.
And who are the targets of the FBI?

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Republicans Solicans. So you know,
in some level I have to like

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wring my hands and say, wow, it's almost like you want a police

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date, and not you want a
police date, you want to be the

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immediate target of it. I mean, I cannot think of more masochistic behavior

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by a party if you had an
ounce of intelligence. So this is to

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me perhaps the greatest frustration of all. Can we stop a police state?

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Yes? Now, in the end
you cannot stop it. In fact,

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you're on me park. The North
Korean refugee said. You know, when

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the jaws of the police state are
locked, then you can only run.

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I mean, you can get out, try to get your family out,

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you become a refugee. But in
the meantime, there are many things we

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can do, but the Republican Party
is not doing let's just say, a

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whole lot of them. And part
of the point of this movie is,

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yeah, it's to wake up the
middle of the nesh We need your movies

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to reach the middle, and I'm
trying to do that. But this is

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a case where I also want to
stiffen the resolve. And part of the

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way you do that is you show
people that we're not in a normal state

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of politics. Very abnormal things are
happening in the country right now. I

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mean, here's a small detail from
the movie, and that is that right

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now you have air marshals. These
are guys who are deployed after nine to

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eleven to stop terrorists of the kind
who blew up the World Trade Center.

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You have air marshals following Americans who
happen to go to DC between January third

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and January seventh of twenty twenty one, regardless of whether or not they went

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into the Capitol. In fact,
regardless that they went to the rally.

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You could have been going to DC
for like a realtor convention or because you're

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a kid who's being reunited with your
dad for the weekend. And right now,

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two and a half years later,
if you get on a plane to

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go not just to DC anyway California, there's an air marshal flying with you

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because you have been flagged as a
potential domestic terrorist. Now do they really

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think that this kid is a domestic
terrorist? No, but they want the

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kid's name in a list because then
they can go to Congress and say,

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we're following four thousand suspected domestic terrorists
all around the country. You need to

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give us all these appropriations because it's
part of fighting the war on terror.

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I mean, the whole thing is
they could joke, but but one of

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the things you notice in a police
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stupidity. Yeah, and meanwhile,
meanwhile, we just had eight million people

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pour across our border illegally, and
we have no idea who these people are.

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And they're not watching them. No, nobody's watching them. Did nor

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did the intelligence agencies with their think
of it. They're almost infinite resources,

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they're massive technological capabilities. You shouldn't
be able to move ten feet without these

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guys knowing about it. And one
thousand Hamas spiders are able to penetrate Israel.

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Not only the Israelis don't know about
it, we don't know about it

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either, And in fact, what
was it? Jake Sullivan, the National

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Security Advisor, days earlier, is
giving a speech of how the Middle East

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is as quiet as in two decades. Yes, wow, you're right,

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Yeah really, it just oh my
gosh. I So I hope that people

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do see the film. I hope
that they get motivated by it, that

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they get scared in order to do
something, because I think that fear,

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unfortunately is a motivating factor, and
man, Republicans have a lot of work

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to do. I saw on your
Twitter page that you had similar sentiments about

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the chairwoman of the GOP that we
do, which is that she's utterly useless

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at this point and just she's she's
terrible for the party. I don't know

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what we can do about it,
but it's bad, right, I mean,

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it'd be one thing, you know, you always know. Let's say,

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say something terrible happens. You lose
an election, you lose another election,

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you lose another election, and then
you see that the people in charge

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are like, oh my gosh,
this is a calamity. We have to

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have a crisis team. But with
Rona McDaniel, she sort of she's like,

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she reminds me of like one of
these Buddhist monks who's sitting like on

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a sacred pillar, you know,
and with this kind of a serene smile

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on her face and her expression never
changes. And I get no sense that

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they're I think that's the Boatox.
I think it's the Boutox, the next

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Janesh. Yeah, it's true though
she never nothing fazes her. It doesn't

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matter how many people like Scott Presler, god bless him, who should run

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the GOP. He's constantly pestering her
about Here's what I'm doing to you know,

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to rally up the vote. Here's
what I'm doing to register people.

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She ignores him completely, and I
don't at some point like, how do

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we impeach her out of this position? She's a responsive are what two hundred

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and seventy or there's a whole bunch
of members of the RNC that have the

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complete power to remove her. But
what's happened is, and this is part

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of the way this corruption seeps in. What happens is that Ronald McDaniel controls

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a lot of money, and so
because she is the chair of the RNC,

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so she has gained leverage over all
these members by basically saying, if

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you want money in your district for
the election coming up, you have to

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be on my good side. So, in essense, she owns them.

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Even though they're elected at the local
level and they know that their own constituents

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don't want Ronald McDaniel, they are
more beholden to her than they are to

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them. It's a little bit lucky
to get kiss the ring who has from

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a rural district and he knows my
rural district does not want us to send

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tens of millions of dollars to Ukraine. But this guy also knows that Raytheon

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and Boeing and these defense contractors which
are getting hundreds of billions of dollars and

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can finel large amounts of money to
this guy's re election campaign, far more

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than you know Joe or Tommy can
give him twenty bucks or fifty bucks.

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Which would you rather get Joe's twenty
bucks or fifty bucks or Raytheon's two hundred

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and fifty thousand dollars contribution to your
reelection campaign? So now you know who

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owns these guys. Yeah, right, absolutely, Deneesh, it's depressing as

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hell and also awesome to talk to
you again, Oh my gosh, totally.

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And Pete, listen, people need
to realize too that we have to

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turn this around because at we're the
last place. We're the last beacon on

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the hill, right, I mean, we're the there is no place else

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to go, So we can't we
can't be like that sweet North Korean lady

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that you interviewed, because there's we
can't escape escape, Yeah, and she

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knows we can't place else to go. So but however, the first place

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to go this may come as a
surprise to you, guys. Police statefilm

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dot net. That's an excellent place
to start. Go there. That is

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the storyline. And look, there's
people who watch the film they go,

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I knew about this, I knew
about that. But what we do is

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we put it all together, make
it make sense. And I got to

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say, the recreations in the movie
are really good. We hired a couple

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of FBI consultants so we would get
the language right, the weaponry right,

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the whole staging of it right.
I wanted people who are in the DOJ

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to go to this film and go, wow, you know that's exactly how

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that would have gone down. Hm. Wow, It's a really great film

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people, for sure. Thank you
so much for being with us. Don't

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be a stranger. Let's have you
back. What are you going to do

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next? Or are we allowed to
know? Isn't it cook up something for

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next year? I don't know yet. I'm so focused on this has often

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happens for a month or two.
I'm hunkered down. But I'd love to

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come back and talk some more about
it when I'm ready with the next project.

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Perfect. That would be great.
It's great to see you. Thanks to us
