This is Kathleen Martin. You're listening to UFO Headquarters, Beautiful Headquarters, and
welcome once again to UFO Headquarters on Hudson Ripper Radio. Michael Warden, Linna
Zimmerman, and thank you to Kathleen Martin for that wonderful introduction. If you
don't know who Kathleen Martin is, she's been a guest on the podcast.
She's the author of Captured that Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experienced, and she
is a niece of the Hills. So check check out her book. Amazingly
wonderful person too. Yeah, check out her podcast. She was great on
our podcast with her. I just want to I want to mention something Linda
really quick. Now. Today's episode it's a two parter, I believe called
Bizarre Entities, and I can't think of two more bizarre entities than you and
I. I mean, well, surprise, not surprisingly, the entire show
is about you and I. So I'm part one, You're part two.
I mean my wife definitely and kids think I'm I embrace my strangeness. Yes,
it's going to be a fun one. Yeah, but before we get
into that, Brian reposted our episode on Everybody in the pool because a lot
of people were talking about water and UFOs, and so he reposted that to
the top of the of the list, and a couple of people responded to
it. And I just want to read these because I love get you know
me, I live for new new cases I hadn't heard of and somebody had
uh mentioned at My father and a deer hunting friend, a Warren County sheriff
deputy, were deep in the forest of North Bolton, New York, which
is in Warren County, sitting at their deer hunting posts near a small pond
when they witnessed a sighting over a pond. So some craft is over this
pond, and subsequently saw all the other hunters fleeing in fear. So you
can imagine the woods full of deer hunters and this UFO is hovering over the
pond. We're out of here, so she said. Back then there were
many sightings in the area over ponds, including a small lake called Glen Lake,
which I don't quite know where that is. I have to look that
up. And then she said she personally witnessed a sighting traveling east on Route
eighty four near Brewster in nineteen eighty three, which added her to the list
the cast of thousands who did and then somebody else. Lily wrote that she
lived off Stoneleigh Avenue in Carmel, and I witnessed I witnessed this in the
reservoir in the early nineties, meaning a craft. So this I looked stonely.
It's along Croton Falls Reservoir, which is a hot spot among hotspots of
so much activity in out of the water over the water. So I asked
for a little more detail. She said it was hovering and looked like water
was being sucked up somehow with a straw or something like that. That's very
interesting, right, another one of these sucking water out of pool's lakes.
Whatever. If you haven't heard everybody in the Pool episode, definitely check it
out. Said it was a dark craft, no sound, with lights that
were red and orange. It was a triangle shape but didn't have pointy edges.
And she saw it, yeah edges, and she saw it for several
minutes, and she said, I will never forget it. It was near
the vista on the Lake Condos complex and Carmel. You can google that and
you can see it's right on the Croton Reservoir and then I asked her just
how big it was. She said about half the size of a football field.
And again she said it wasn't a full triangle as it was not pointed,
and it was wider across than long and rounded on the bottom. Kind
of sounds like the maybe a boomerang shape which was prevalent then. So yeah,
so these stories of UFOs and water keep keep coming up. What do
they do with it? Knows? Who knows? And if you know,
we appreciate that people take the time to write in and share these encounters and
experiences and encourage them to continue to do so. Absolutely, I'm so excited
when somebody, oh, no, a new encounter. So why don't we
take our first break and then start with the Bizarre Entities Hudson River Radio dot
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Bizarre Entities. And there is no shortage of bizarre entities that we can talk
about, Linda, when it comes to this topic, oh for sure.
Yeah, And I think what everyone should do is play along and at the
end of each episode, do you think this was human, alien, cryptid,
or a hoax or all of the above. So this first case we're
going to talk about, I so believed it had to be a hoax.
But I've watched a video about it, I've heard the witnesses talk. I
honestly do not know what to make of this. So we're going to Peru
for this. July eleventh, twenty twenty three, was this first encounter,
and it was in a small village of San Antonio, which is northeast of
Lima. It's a long boat ride to get there. It's a remote village,
but before you think, all the villagers have spears and mud huts.
Everybody has a cell phone. They watch all the latest movies and TV shows
do They're wearing Nike shirts and TikTok shirts, and you know they're on social
media. So you know, remote isn't what it used to be. So
they're remote, but certainly not primitive. So what they started seeing in July
seven foot tall beings in black metallic body armor with elongated helmets with like yellow
glass for like the eye shields, silently flying and hovering on circular boards.
You know, the green Goblin comic character picture something like that, only in
black body armor. So they have these silent hoverboards that can fly fast and
far, and they come in pairs. All of these villagers described them the
same way. It's two of them. They seem to be able to snap
like the snap or click into these hoverboards. The boards I think they said,
were like eight to ten feet and once they land, they disconnect from
the hoverboard, but they still have some sort of circular devices on their feet
that still allows them to hover a few feet off the ground and glide around
silently. I mean, how freaky freaky is this? So the villagers like,
what the hell is this? What do they want? Obviously you shoot
at them, and a lot of them have sixteen gage shotguns which they use
for birding, and they use I loved this little detail. They used modified
bird shot, so I had to consult my bird shot chart, my shot
chart today. Buckshot is much larger, several times larger than bird shot.
A typical number nine bird shot is point zero eight inches and can go up
to point one six So that's small. But they melt some of them together,
so it's a combination of larger pellets and smaller ones, so interesting pack
a little more punch, right, I think that's you know, important.
So they're shooting at them, and they just hear all of these pellets bouncing
off this metallic armor. And one man swears he shot one of these guys
at close range. It fell backwards on its butt, but gut up right
away and flew off. So even if you have good body armor, you're
taking a sixteen gauge shell. Yeah, that's some force. Yeah, So
the fact that it knocked it over, you know, indicates he definitely hit
it. It definitely took the impact and recoil, you know, it responded
accordingly. But I mean, what kind of armor are they wearing that it's
not penetrating even a little bit, And depending on close range and the size
of the individual pellets and stuff inside of their Yeah, and just the physical
force that's us to knock the wind out of you. So officials of course
come in to interview and say so the official line, the excuse is these
are illegal gold miners using jet packs. I read that. What not a
single witness said they had jet packs. They all said they're on these hoverboards
and have these circular things on their feet trying to scare the villagers away from
their village, don't think so? And yeah, because they wanted to keep
them away from the mining pits. Apparently that was the right the theory,
Like we're going to pretend we're aliens and attack people to keep them away from
our gold. But it seems like all you're doing is drawing attention and getting
shot at. Yeah, Like, I mean, if if you're really concerned
about your gold mines, I don't know that that seems like an awful extravagant,
just a really out of this world literally way of doing it. I
can think of other ways. You could probably do it a lot easier and
a lot more cheaply. And who has this technology ten foot silent hoverboards that
two guys can click into and fly off silently. Well, So it just
seemed to be like scaring the villagers for the most part until one evening,
two of them land and grab a fifteen year old girl named Talia. They
drug her by shooting something up her nose. Okay, Then they start rubbing
cream on her face that makes her face numb. Now bear with me,
I know this is so Twilight Zone and this doesn't sound alien to me.
Then they take out something that looks like a laser scalpel and start to cut
under her face along her chin line. I'll get to what might be behind
this. In the end, she manages to scream. Her brother and others
come running. They see these two figures. They're now trying to drag her
away with them, but they don't seem to be able to take off with
her. Not that she weighs a lot, but whatever these hover technology is,
they couldn't carry her too, so they drop her and she's severely traumat
tied, has these cuts on her neck, and she is the only one
who claims that she heard heard them speaking. No one's heard anything else.
She said. One was speaking Spanish like a local, like a Peruvian.
This is very interesting if true. She said. One of them spoke with
an accent like a gringo, which in US military just starts going off in
my head. Why, I don't know. So you'd like to say this
is some twisted military project, except they're also seeing UFOs, acorn shaped UFOs
hovering at tree top level. One guy drew an illustration of it, said
that it was semi transparent and he could see two figures inside. I mean,
this stuff is so weird. And even if you want to say they're
all mentally disturbed on some sort of jungle fungus sixty miles away in a much
letter like a small city, the same thing is happening. And a boy
was attacked and cut So what is this with wanting to possibly cut your face
off? Apparently for the past forty years a legend of the placaris has developed,
the face peelers. They find bodies of people with their faces cut off.
What I mean, they they supposedly will eat your flesh. Some people
said, well, maybe they're organ harvesters, you know, illegal organ I
don't. I don't know. I don't know. There's a lot more to
this, but everyone should go to YouTube. And a guy named Tim Alberino
actually went to this play and everybody else writes about everybody else's stuff. He
went there and there's a YouTube called Peru Alien Attack Expedition Report. Just check
it out. I don't know what to make of this. I was.
I watched this video so carefully so I could say, ah, it's a
hoax. Aha, it's this something. These people are genuinely terrified. Something
is happening. Every single one describes these seven foot guys in black body armor.
They even say, you know what, there's like, you know,
an arm piece of arm, you know, like the segmented body armor like
soldiers would wear. But who has this hubverboard technology? Why are they terrorizing
these people? I don't know, so human, alien, cryptid? And
you know, I just go to if it is gold miners and you're going
through this whole elaborate When people start shooting at you with shotguns, it seems
to me like you might want to start rethinking your strategy because now you could
get killed. I don't care how good of the armor you think you've crafted.
So if it is, indeed, people assume that it is for a
moment, how smart would they be to continue doing it When you have people
shooting at them. What happens when they decide to shoot with something, you
know, a high powered rifle that's going to penetrate armor very quickly. Yeah,
you know, like y So, I don't know what to make of
it. I just don't know. It's all fun in games till they start
shooting at you. Yeah, I mean, and the technology itself does it?
Even jet packs? Yeah, they're cool, they're noisy, they only
last a couple of minutes. Usually who has the technology to snap into a
ten foot board and take off like a bat out of hell? Yeah,
I mean does that technology exist like that? I don't know, so that's
maybe. Yeah. So when I first heard about this, I'm like,
oh, I'm not wasting my time. This is nonsense. And then I
heard about it again, and then I watched the video and I'm like,
damn it. I don't know. So we'll leave that as an I'm leaning
towards humans, but I'm open to any any suggestions. Yeah, absolutely,
and we'll see. Maybe they'll have more reports coming out of Peru in the
next few months. Yeah, and apparently something similar might also be happening in
Brazil right now. So why don't we take our second break before our local
mothman expert continues with creatures flying through the air. This is Hudson River Radio
dot com. This is Hudson River Radio dot com. Okay, we are
going to go from Peru to West Virginia, to the West Virginia slash Ohio
border to a quaint little town called Point Pleasant. I know you have been
there, Linda, Absolutely, I have been there. A couple of years
ago. I made the drive from another West Virginia city where I was and
had to experience this place for myself. It's very cool. But we are
going to go to nineteen sixty six to nineteen sixty seven. Beginning with November
fifteenth of nineteen sixty six, a couple Roger and Linda Scarberry and Steve and
Mary Molett, are out one night in an area of Point Pleasant on the
outskirts, which are called the TNT Bunkers. So outside of Point Pleasant during
World War Two was a very large munitions plant and they had these concrete dome
bunkers built all over the property to store explosives, and they were apparently designed
with they had big steel blast doores so that if for some reason there was
an accidental discharge in one bunker, the explosion would be contained that it would
not create a chain reaction and suddenly trigger multiple bunkers. And you can go
check them out today. I know you went down there a few years ago
and got you. Yeah, some strange vibes there. I can say that,
yeah, they are. There's and they're everywhere. It's just odd.
You'll be walking into the woods and all of a sudden there's one and then
you walk, you know how many distance away, and another one and another
one. Yeah, and they're big. We're not talking like a ten foot
shed there. I don't know, what would you say, forty fifty feet
in diameter? Oh yeah, they're massive, yeah, massive. And they're
the acoustics in there, you know, if you talk, everything echoes and
reverberates because it's designed to contain an explosion. So it's designed to keep the
explosion in that that can that bunk or not outside of it. And it's
a popular hangout. You could tell just from when I was there two years
ago, the graffiti, you know, the alcohol bottles. Sure, it's
been a long a party place for people in Point Pleasant and will continue to
be. But on this night in November fifteenth of nineteen sixty six, this
couple is out there and they report to the police a very strange encounter.
They see a very large black creature with glowing red eyes, and it's on
the side of the road in this TNT area. They see this creature and
they take off in their vehicle and the creature pursues them. It follows them,
It flies after them all the way to the city line of Point Pleasant,
at which point it disappears now, and it did to the description of,
you know, a large black creature with glowing red eyes. One of
the witnesses that night described it as a very tall, thin, muscular man,
about the height of a adult male, with a seven foot wingspan.
This witness also said, you know, the eyes were hypnotic, which prevented
her from accurately remembering what the face looked like. So, even though you
know, they could recall these big red eyes, the eyes were so hypnotic
that no details of the face seemed to be evident. And they report this
to the police, which I find interesting. So and of course it hits
the local newspapers. Well, what follows is an entire wave of sightings of
this creature. A volunteer fireman, two volunteer firemen actually reported seeing what they
thought was a giant bird with glowing red eyes. And of course people thought
this was a real bird, maybe maybe it was a heron. The local
sheriff thought that people were seeing a giant heron bird who apparently has some red
around the eye, which could have been mistaken for a giant glowing red eyes,
but the reports kept coming in. Another witness, a man by the
name of Newel Partridge, a contractor, reported he saw the creature one night
and he shone a flashlight at it, and the eyes reflected off of the
light, reflected from the light like red reflectors on a bicycle wheel, so
they're light reactive. Now. This gentleman also felt that his dog had been
stolen by the creature and that the creature had been interfering in his television and
other electronics. So there's a lot more to his encounter there. Yuh,
Mike, If I can just add, when I was researching this about the
missing dog, I said, you know what, let me go to Lost
and Found of the local papers. A lot of dogs were going missing in
that area around that time. Yeah, yep, I did not know that
detail. But that's fascinating. So it's not just mister Partridge there that's missing
a dog, A lot of dogs. I don't know what's typical, but
I went through weeks of newspaper lost and found items and just an awful lot
of dogs seemed an inordinate amount. And it's not a very huge place,
no pleasant at all. We're not talking we're not talking to New York City
here. It's much smaller community. Now, biologists at the time thought this
was a sand hill crane which people were seeing, and apparently it was not
a normal bird be seen in this area, but it could have come off
its migration routes, and the sand hill crane could be the height of a
man, had about a seven foot wingspan, and it had a red coloring
around the eyes. So yeah, biologist exploit. Yeah, well, I
see sand hill cranes in Florida all the time. I've yet to see one
that looks like a seven foot mothman. Well, well, and that's what
when I looked at pictures. I've never seen one in person. But the
pictures don't look miss like you'd misstake. No, they look like birds.
And I've never had one chase my car. You know. They're just big,
noisy birds. You can't mistake them for anything else. And some also
have claimed it was owls, a giant owl. Oh, yes, people
have mistaken and of course the herons. But so the local press, of
course, coins are very very popular. Name that has stuck to this day,
and that is they called it the mothman. So the term mothman comes
from the press who was writing about this, and to this day, if
you go to Point Pleasant. They have the Mothman Museum, which is you
know, it's pretty cool. It's got a lot of stuff and there it's
fun. Yeah, yeah, you know it's They have a Mothman Festival,
which I have not been to, but that seems like probably a lot of
fun. Yeah. The statue is super cool. Yes, there's out the
street. Yes, yep, I had to. I had to pose for
a few pictures in front of it, of course, didn't we all.
And I think the festival festival would be fun to go to, just like
the Pine Boots Festival. It be it's a fun probably event. It looks
like a great time. But maybe someday. But now here's where the Mothman
story takes a really interesting turn. December fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven, so
actually the anniversary date. You know, we're recording this in December eleventh,
just for context that we're very close to the anniversary here as we talk about
it. But there's a bridge called the Point Pleasant Bridge, which connected the
town of Gallipolis, Ohio to Point Pleasant, spanning the Ohio River. The
locals had called it the Silver Bridge because of the bright aluminum silver color of
the bridge. And this bridge has been around for some time. It was
not a new bridge. It was a one thousand, seven hundred and sixty
foot eyebar suspension bridge sitting one hundred and two feet above the river. So
this was the main crossing and on December fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven, in
the early evening hours before five pm, this was a busy time. You
had holiday shoppers and traffic. You had the commuters coming home from work.
The estimates of vehicle traffic on that bridge daily was up to four thousand vehicles
a day, twenty percent of which were trucks. So this is a major,
you know, artery in terms of connecting the two communities. Well,
at five pm, people report hearing blosion like a gunshot sound. Suddenly the
bridge collapsed, as described by witnesses like a deck of cards. It folded
and a sixty foot span of the bridge within twenty seconds had fallen into the
river, taking with it thirty two cars and forty six lives. All but
two bodies were recovered. So two of the bodies that were washed into the
off of the bridge and into the water that night were never recovered, which
is just an extra sad element to that. Now the bridge had been inspected
that summer twice and in fact, on December sixth of that year, had
a final inspection with an engineer visiting the site. Yeah, well they missed
something, didn't they. Yeah. And now what was concluded years later,
after very exhaustive analysis was, and I I'll summarize the this is how much
of a detail they came up with. It was a cleavage fracture in a
lower limb of an eye of eyebar three hundred and thirty at joint C one
three ncaused by forty years of stress, corrosion and fatigue. The flaw itself
was a crack of about two point five millimeters that led to this. So,
of course, you know, a bridge, any type of a major
catastrophe like this leads to change. Old bridges suddenly were being you know,
reinspected and either replaced brought up the code. But the Mothman incident became viewed
as the sort of harbringer of the Silver Bridge collapse because the encounters with Mothman
stopped with the bridge collapse. And wasn't he supposedly seen on the bridge before
the collapse. There were there were stories about that, but I couldn't verify
yeah, where they came from them. So but yeah, so over one
hundred witnesses reported seeing the Mothman. Of course, you know, skeptics and
others thought this was an owl, this was the crane we talked about a
heron. But an investigative journalist and US Army that named John Keel wanted to
investigate this for himself. And John Keel went down there and spent months with
a reporter following up leads and investigating and talking to witnesses, and he wrote
The Mothman Prophecies, a book about his experiences his investigation, and if people
haven't read any of John Keel's work, I highly recommend it. I mean,
the whole term men in black was coined by John Keel. You know,
that's a term he came up with. So that's the origin of that.
And what he noted in nineteen sixty seven John Keel about the the Mothman
was that there was a significant overlap between psychic phenomenon and UFO encounters. And
John Keel is a big proponent at the time of extraterrestrial theory, being that
you know, UFOs and things were coming from outside of the Earth. These
were alien visitors but his investigation ultimately led him to other conclusions and that and
I'm going to sort of summarize this. It's that objects and apparitions that were
being encountered didn't originate from other planets, that they were actually may not exist
as permanent constructions of matter at all, and that they may have been basically
we were seeing what we want to see based upon our own belief systems.
These were ultra terrestrials as the term he ended up going with, sort of
an interdimensional component. Later, Jay Allen Heinek would be a supporter of this
theory of ultraterrestrials and that essentially UFOs Mothman. You know, all of these
odd encounters were all just our own interpretation of similar phenomena, and you can
make of it what you will. For that, I find it an interesting
hypothesis or theory. And you know, the Mothman's not the only West Virginia
creature. I know we're going to talk about that on another episode. But
yes, yeah, kind of similar. Yeah, yeah, So do you
put this in the cryptid alien harbinger of doom or trying to warn people?
Category? So you know, John Kill would have put it in a kind
of a mixture of all of them, I think, because he did think
that the Mothman was a warning of this impending disaster. I personally don't know
what to make of it. I tend to lean towards this ultra terrestrial theory
as being somewhat maybe maybe plausible under a lot of conditions, because it does
explain, you know, perhaps not all UFO sightings are attributed to extraterrestrials.
Maybe they all are not from another planet, another civilization, you know,
maybe there are multiple explanations. The one thing I'm certain of is it wasn't
a sandhill crane. No. That's and I go back to people were seeing
things. They were definitely seeing something that was not a crane, that wasn't
a giant owl. You know, people were seeing things that they were reporting
to the police that this is what they saw. Yeah, and luring a
time in a very conservative community where talking about stuff like this would get you
labeled a lunatic. So they had to be genuinely scared to talk about it,
Especially again the nineteen sixties. This is not a time where people ran
around, you know, publicly boasting about their ufone counters. No, no,
no one wanted to do that. So any of our listeners, if
you ever get a chance, go down to Point Pleasant. It's actually a
really cool little town. It's got a giant floodwall around it, which I
thought was the most next to them off Man, the coolest thing. You
know. They can actually put a wooden boards up across the gate and block
the town off from a flood, and I thought that was next to the
moth Man. I mean, I asked them, old timer on the porch,
I'm like, what is this for? He goes, oh, so
when the river's gonna flood, they have boards. They can put them in
the slots and block the town off. So very cool. Get down there.
You can go to the Silver Bridge. Has a little bit of a
memorial there where the bridge once stood, and I think it's important. I
went there to make sure I paid my respect to those who who did lose
their lives there, because these were people, and you know, it's a
couple of weeks before Christmas to have something like this happened. So get down
there, go to the Mothman. Folks may go to the museum and buy
some Mothman cola, and yes, go out to those TNT bunkers. They're
they're cool. Creepy. They are creepy for sure. I recommend it though,
Yeah, yeah, we like creepy. So let us shift gears completely
and go to the other side of the world. For the Haitachi region of
Japan February twenty second, eighteen oh three, this is known as the Otsuru
Bune case. That atsuru Bune means hollow boat. So a group of fishermen
see a boat. It's about ten feet they call it a boat. It's
floating on the water. It's about ten feet high, about eighteen feet wide.
They describe it as being like an incense burner, which is like arounded.
You can go and look up. There where manuscripts about this. What
it looks like is a classic flying saucer with a copper bottom, the bottom
of it copper. Okay, So it's a top and bottom and it's an
enclosed thing, glass windows. So they pull it ashore, they open it.
They see this strange writing on the wall. It's in an unknown language.
They even get into the detail that there was three point six liters of
water on board, some meat, and some type of bread. So this
is like, you know, this is not your typical fishermen. They're taking
and accurate. There also happens to be a beautiful woman, but she's definitely
not Japanese. She looks to be about eighteen to twenty years old, red
eyebrows, red hair, with some sort of white fabric hair extensions. She's
wearing long clothes of an unknown material. She's about five feet tall, very
pale skin, and she's holding a box that's about nine inches square, and
she was adamant. She wouldn't let anyone touch the box. Nobody could get
near the box. Okay, they try to talk to her. She speaks
an unknown language. So what do the people think? What do we do?
Who is this strange woman? So people think she might be a queen
of a foreign land who was outcast for adultery and her lover's head was in
the box. Really this is your go to explanation. That was quite the
quite the random explanation that come up with from that. Yeah, I don't
even know where to go with that. But the bottom line is the people
are all very scared because this probably isn't a good thing. This you know,
woman who doesn't look like them, she doesn't talk like them. She's
in this bizarre craft. So they put her back in her craft and push
her back out to see and that's that's the end of this mysterious female.
So in recent years a researcher by the name of Tanaka thought this was all
nonsense. So he thought they could have been embellishing the account of a Russian
whaling ship that had been shipwrecked. What how many redheaded women are on Russian
whaling ships and a whaling ship is rather large because you have to put whales
on it. I'm sure what's worse, the adulterous queen being expelled with a
head in a box or the whaling ship. I mean they're both sort of
to me, like, really, I know. Well, Tanaka looks into
it and he finally realizes he found finds eleven original documents from the early eighteen
hundreds discussing this account. You can look it up. You see illustrations of
the craft. It is not a typical sailing vessel. It is an enclosed
craft with a metallic copper bottom at the very least. So you know,
what are we looking at here? We're looking at a human, a human
looking alien or is it a Russian whaler? This is for you to decide.
You could see that the pictures, the contemporary drawings of it look nothing
like a ship at all, a whaling ship or any any boat, any
boat you know covered like that what boats were covered, you know, and
disc shaped and they said copper cladding on the bottom. So it's metallic,
saucer shaped, strange woman, strange language, strange material. Yeah, I
don't know what to I don't know what to make of that one either,
So that was just a quickie, little uh, throw a little Japanese monkey
wrench into uh, you know, not all aliens may look like Mothman.
But so the last one, we're going to Poland. Now have you ever
been to emilsin Poland? E M I lcin. They have, But my
goal is to get the Poland next year or the year after. Okay,
well you're going to have to look because they have a UFO monument there which
I'll get to at the end of this. So there's a lot of material
on this case, but it's all in Polish and I can't understand it.
There's videos, there's interviews, extensive interviews with the primary witness, but I
can't understand it. So what's available in English is that on May tenth,
nineteen seventy eight, seventy one year old jen Jan Wolski, who they described
as being a peasant, that's their words, not mine, was driving a
horse drawn wagon through a wooden area and there on the side of the road
are two short, green faced humanoid entities five feet tall, green face,
webbed fingers, and wearing black, tight fitting hood and an outfit kind of
like overalls. And he said they had slanted eyes and very prominent cheekbones.
So obviously Yan didn't get around much because he thought they must be foreigners.
I love that detail, Yeah, but maybe a little the green skin part
was not a clue here. I mean a well, you know, you're
living in communist poland you don't get out much, you know, so they're
probably a little more foreign than he thought. So yeah, these creatures then
jump on to his cart and start talking to him in some strange foreign language.
And this is a quote from him. They were talking to me in
thin voices. Unknown to me. I didn't understand any of it. I
drove out from behind these bushes and there's this, well, some small car
hovering in the air. Now that made me wonder that a car can hang
in the air and float up and down a meter or so. That's what
made him wonder. So what he's seeing is a craft about fifteen feet above
the ground illustrations. It almost looks like a white tent, but made out
of a hard material as long as a bus. And this is very bizarre.
At each corner of this tent like craft, there were four screwlike holes
like the curve of like giant drill bits that seem to be holding it up
and in place. And the whole thing is humming and moving up and down.
There's a small platform on the ground with four posts. It was a
little elevator, so they motion him toward the craft. He steps on the
platform and it rises him up to this open doorway. He goes in.
He sees there's four other green forigners. There are eight small benches along the
walls, and he notices on the floor this is an interesting thing. Birds
kind of like ravens. They were moving their legs and wings a little,
but they seemed unable to get away. So whatever these forigners were, they
captured some birds too, So I don't know if he was drugged or what,
but they motioned for him to undress so he does, I don't know,
just dropping trousers because a green guy with webbed fingers wants you to is
a I know, this sounds silly. We'll get through this together. So
they examine him with two objects that look like plates or small symbols like they
have, like you know, the way you wear symbols and you smack them
together. This seems to be how they're they're whatever examining him, and then
they gesture him for to put his clothes back on, so, you know,
abducting humans and examining them as hard work. So they start eating something
that I translations. Either it looked like honey or icicles, so I don't
know which it was. And he at least wisely declined to eat this strange
food. And as he's about to get back on the elevator, he nods
and tips his head and they nod back to him. So they're all very
polite. This was, you know, not an abduction, an invitation.
So yes, so he goes down the elevator, gets back on his cart,
goes home, tells his family come see the floating object. So his
family and neighbors come. They go there. The craft, of course is
gone, but the grass, they said, was trodden down, covered in
dew, and paths in all direction and footprints, so something had been there
and people had walked all around. Supposedly, a local boy said he saw
the same craft hovering over a barn, but it looks like the local ufologist,
a man by the name of Zadisloff Blondin, manipulated this boy's testimony to
say it. At the very least, this Blondin really pushed the case and
profited a lot articles, interviews, a book, so critics say, well,
this guy had been this old guy had been drugged. It was a
complete hoax because this other he was Blonin was having a feud with this other
ufologist, and the ufologist knew how to hypnotize people, so he hypnotized Wallski.
I mean it. The explanations seemed to get sillier than the story,
but whatever it was. In two thousand and five, the town erected monument
to this. It's like a large monolith with a metallic cube on top,
and the inscription reads. On May tenth, nineteen seventy eight, in Emilsen,
a UFO object landed the truth will surprise us in the future. Whatever
that means so you have someplace to visit when you go to Poland. So
hoax foreigners, aliens just I don't know, the majority of people seem to
think somehow it's a hoax. But the guy never changed his story, and
you can see even if you don't speak Polish, you can see his interview
and he believes in what he saw. I don't, I don't know.
And you know you mentioned to the sounds like a lesson scrupulous ufologist got involved,
And yeah, I think that's been part of the negative, you know,
overshadowing of the whole field, is that the people out there doing good
work and hard work are always overshadowed by those who are not in it for
the right reasons. They're in it for the money, the glory of the
fame, whatever it is, and then they use those people with a you
know, broad strokes to paint us all in the same vein, which is
unfortunate. Yeah, and yeah, yeah, to this day, those who
need to make money off this topic are yeah, less than I don't know
what word to use, not always honest. And a lot of people,
as we see, will do and say anything for money, so they will
and to be on TV or to make make a movie whatever it is.
Documentary, yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate. So who knows, who knows.
But when you're in Poland, you'll have to talk to the locals,
see the monument and then report back to us. So I will I may
have to do it on the ground interview from that. That's right. It
looks the monument looks really cool, by the way it is. It looks
really cool, very neat monument. So that's it for our bizarre entities for
now, but more to come in part two in our next episode, so
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