WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:17.839 This is Kathleen Martin. You're listening to UFO Headquarters, Beautiful Headquarters, and 2 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:23.280 welcome once again to UFO Headquarters on Hudson Ripper Radio. Michael Warden, Linna 3 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:30.359 Zimmerman, and thank you to Kathleen Martin for that wonderful introduction. If you 4 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:33.600 don't know who Kathleen Martin is, she's been a guest on the podcast. 5 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:38.039 She's the author of Captured that Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experienced, and she 6 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:43.240 is a niece of the Hills. So check check out her book. Amazingly 7 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:47.280 wonderful person too. Yeah, check out her podcast. She was great on 8 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:51.920 our podcast with her. I just want to I want to mention something Linda 9 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:56.880 really quick. Now. Today's episode it's a two parter, I believe called 10 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:00.719 Bizarre Entities, and I can't think of two more bizarre entities than you and 11 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:07.840 I. I mean, well, surprise, not surprisingly, the entire show 12 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:11.640 is about you and I. So I'm part one, You're part two. 13 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:23.079 I mean my wife definitely and kids think I'm I embrace my strangeness. Yes, 14 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:27.040 it's going to be a fun one. Yeah, but before we get 15 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:34.319 into that, Brian reposted our episode on Everybody in the pool because a lot 16 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:44.040 of people were talking about water and UFOs, and so he reposted that to 17 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:49.280 the top of the of the list, and a couple of people responded to 18 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.799 it. And I just want to read these because I love get you know 19 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:57.400 me, I live for new new cases I hadn't heard of and somebody had 20 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:05.239 uh mentioned at My father and a deer hunting friend, a Warren County sheriff 21 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:10.240 deputy, were deep in the forest of North Bolton, New York, which 22 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:15.360 is in Warren County, sitting at their deer hunting posts near a small pond 23 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:22.319 when they witnessed a sighting over a pond. So some craft is over this 24 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:29.719 pond, and subsequently saw all the other hunters fleeing in fear. So you 25 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:35.240 can imagine the woods full of deer hunters and this UFO is hovering over the 26 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:42.879 pond. We're out of here, so she said. Back then there were 27 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:47.800 many sightings in the area over ponds, including a small lake called Glen Lake, 28 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:51.560 which I don't quite know where that is. I have to look that 29 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:58.120 up. And then she said she personally witnessed a sighting traveling east on Route 30 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:04.680 eighty four near Brewster in nineteen eighty three, which added her to the list 31 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:12.680 the cast of thousands who did and then somebody else. Lily wrote that she 32 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:19.719 lived off Stoneleigh Avenue in Carmel, and I witnessed I witnessed this in the 33 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:25.560 reservoir in the early nineties, meaning a craft. So this I looked stonely. 34 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:32.680 It's along Croton Falls Reservoir, which is a hot spot among hotspots of 35 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:38.159 so much activity in out of the water over the water. So I asked 36 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:43.879 for a little more detail. She said it was hovering and looked like water 37 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:51.800 was being sucked up somehow with a straw or something like that. That's very 38 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:58.680 interesting, right, another one of these sucking water out of pool's lakes. 39 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:03.240 Whatever. If you haven't heard everybody in the Pool episode, definitely check it 40 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:08.800 out. Said it was a dark craft, no sound, with lights that 41 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:15.719 were red and orange. It was a triangle shape but didn't have pointy edges. 42 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.319 And she saw it, yeah edges, and she saw it for several 43 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:23.959 minutes, and she said, I will never forget it. It was near 44 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:29.920 the vista on the Lake Condos complex and Carmel. You can google that and 45 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:33.399 you can see it's right on the Croton Reservoir and then I asked her just 46 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:38.279 how big it was. She said about half the size of a football field. 47 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:43.000 And again she said it wasn't a full triangle as it was not pointed, 48 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:47.600 and it was wider across than long and rounded on the bottom. Kind 49 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:57.279 of sounds like the maybe a boomerang shape which was prevalent then. So yeah, 50 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:02.040 so these stories of UFOs and water keep keep coming up. What do 51 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:08.199 they do with it? Knows? Who knows? And if you know, 52 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:12.120 we appreciate that people take the time to write in and share these encounters and 53 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:17.040 experiences and encourage them to continue to do so. Absolutely, I'm so excited 54 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:23.600 when somebody, oh, no, a new encounter. So why don't we 55 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:31.040 take our first break and then start with the Bizarre Entities Hudson River Radio dot 56 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:43.000 com Hudson River Radio dot com subsidiary of Glacier Entertainment LLC, blasting the competition 57 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:49.879 in New York's Hudson Valley. And we are back with part one, the 58 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:55.240 Bizarre Entities. And there is no shortage of bizarre entities that we can talk 59 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:59.120 about, Linda, when it comes to this topic, oh for sure. 60 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:03.600 Yeah, And I think what everyone should do is play along and at the 61 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:09.839 end of each episode, do you think this was human, alien, cryptid, 62 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:16.040 or a hoax or all of the above. So this first case we're 63 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:20.079 going to talk about, I so believed it had to be a hoax. 64 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:26.720 But I've watched a video about it, I've heard the witnesses talk. I 65 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:30.680 honestly do not know what to make of this. So we're going to Peru 66 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:36.759 for this. July eleventh, twenty twenty three, was this first encounter, 67 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:44.399 and it was in a small village of San Antonio, which is northeast of 68 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:48.800 Lima. It's a long boat ride to get there. It's a remote village, 69 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:54.240 but before you think, all the villagers have spears and mud huts. 70 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:59.720 Everybody has a cell phone. They watch all the latest movies and TV shows 71 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:04.600 do They're wearing Nike shirts and TikTok shirts, and you know they're on social 72 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:11.360 media. So you know, remote isn't what it used to be. So 73 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:16.759 they're remote, but certainly not primitive. So what they started seeing in July 74 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:29.439 seven foot tall beings in black metallic body armor with elongated helmets with like yellow 75 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:36.120 glass for like the eye shields, silently flying and hovering on circular boards. 76 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:45.720 You know, the green Goblin comic character picture something like that, only in 77 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:54.120 black body armor. So they have these silent hoverboards that can fly fast and 78 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:58.839 far, and they come in pairs. All of these villagers described them the 79 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:03.680 same way. It's two of them. They seem to be able to snap 80 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:09.040 like the snap or click into these hoverboards. The boards I think they said, 81 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:16.040 were like eight to ten feet and once they land, they disconnect from 82 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.959 the hoverboard, but they still have some sort of circular devices on their feet 83 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:26.560 that still allows them to hover a few feet off the ground and glide around 84 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:33.960 silently. I mean, how freaky freaky is this? So the villagers like, 85 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.799 what the hell is this? What do they want? Obviously you shoot 86 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:43.720 at them, and a lot of them have sixteen gage shotguns which they use 87 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:50.679 for birding, and they use I loved this little detail. They used modified 88 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:56.320 bird shot, so I had to consult my bird shot chart, my shot 89 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.919 chart today. Buckshot is much larger, several times larger than bird shot. 90 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:09.320 A typical number nine bird shot is point zero eight inches and can go up 91 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:15.039 to point one six So that's small. But they melt some of them together, 92 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:22.399 so it's a combination of larger pellets and smaller ones, so interesting pack 93 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:26.799 a little more punch, right, I think that's you know, important. 94 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:33.120 So they're shooting at them, and they just hear all of these pellets bouncing 95 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:39.720 off this metallic armor. And one man swears he shot one of these guys 96 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:45.440 at close range. It fell backwards on its butt, but gut up right 97 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:52.159 away and flew off. So even if you have good body armor, you're 98 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:58.919 taking a sixteen gauge shell. Yeah, that's some force. Yeah, So 99 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.639 the fact that it knocked it over, you know, indicates he definitely hit 100 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.159 it. It definitely took the impact and recoil, you know, it responded 101 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:09.960 accordingly. But I mean, what kind of armor are they wearing that it's 102 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.440 not penetrating even a little bit, And depending on close range and the size 103 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:18.639 of the individual pellets and stuff inside of their Yeah, and just the physical 104 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:24.480 force that's us to knock the wind out of you. So officials of course 105 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:31.200 come in to interview and say so the official line, the excuse is these 106 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:41.879 are illegal gold miners using jet packs. I read that. What not a 107 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:48.000 single witness said they had jet packs. They all said they're on these hoverboards 108 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:56.480 and have these circular things on their feet trying to scare the villagers away from 109 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:03.399 their village, don't think so? And yeah, because they wanted to keep 110 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:07.200 them away from the mining pits. Apparently that was the right the theory, 111 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:09.440 Like we're going to pretend we're aliens and attack people to keep them away from 112 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:15.320 our gold. But it seems like all you're doing is drawing attention and getting 113 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:20.039 shot at. Yeah, Like, I mean, if if you're really concerned 114 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.519 about your gold mines, I don't know that that seems like an awful extravagant, 115 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:30.200 just a really out of this world literally way of doing it. I 116 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:31.639 can think of other ways. You could probably do it a lot easier and 117 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:37.440 a lot more cheaply. And who has this technology ten foot silent hoverboards that 118 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:43.240 two guys can click into and fly off silently. Well, So it just 119 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:50.559 seemed to be like scaring the villagers for the most part until one evening, 120 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:58.840 two of them land and grab a fifteen year old girl named Talia. They 121 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:07.240 drug her by shooting something up her nose. Okay, Then they start rubbing 122 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:13.399 cream on her face that makes her face numb. Now bear with me, 123 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:18.000 I know this is so Twilight Zone and this doesn't sound alien to me. 124 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:24.639 Then they take out something that looks like a laser scalpel and start to cut 125 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:33.440 under her face along her chin line. I'll get to what might be behind 126 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:37.639 this. In the end, she manages to scream. Her brother and others 127 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:43.039 come running. They see these two figures. They're now trying to drag her 128 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:48.039 away with them, but they don't seem to be able to take off with 129 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:54.039 her. Not that she weighs a lot, but whatever these hover technology is, 130 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.960 they couldn't carry her too, so they drop her and she's severely traumat 131 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:05.879 tied, has these cuts on her neck, and she is the only one 132 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:11.279 who claims that she heard heard them speaking. No one's heard anything else. 133 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:18.320 She said. One was speaking Spanish like a local, like a Peruvian. 134 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:22.639 This is very interesting if true. She said. One of them spoke with 135 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:31.960 an accent like a gringo, which in US military just starts going off in 136 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:37.120 my head. Why, I don't know. So you'd like to say this 137 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:46.879 is some twisted military project, except they're also seeing UFOs, acorn shaped UFOs 138 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:54.799 hovering at tree top level. One guy drew an illustration of it, said 139 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:58.279 that it was semi transparent and he could see two figures inside. I mean, 140 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.759 this stuff is so weird. And even if you want to say they're 141 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:09.399 all mentally disturbed on some sort of jungle fungus sixty miles away in a much 142 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:15.919 letter like a small city, the same thing is happening. And a boy 143 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:22.320 was attacked and cut So what is this with wanting to possibly cut your face 144 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:31.440 off? Apparently for the past forty years a legend of the placaris has developed, 145 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:39.200 the face peelers. They find bodies of people with their faces cut off. 146 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:48.120 What I mean, they they supposedly will eat your flesh. Some people 147 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.080 said, well, maybe they're organ harvesters, you know, illegal organ I 148 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:56.080 don't. I don't know. I don't know. There's a lot more to 149 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:03.159 this, but everyone should go to YouTube. And a guy named Tim Alberino 150 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:09.159 actually went to this play and everybody else writes about everybody else's stuff. He 151 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:18.200 went there and there's a YouTube called Peru Alien Attack Expedition Report. Just check 152 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:20.360 it out. I don't know what to make of this. I was. 153 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:26.039 I watched this video so carefully so I could say, ah, it's a 154 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:33.799 hoax. Aha, it's this something. These people are genuinely terrified. Something 155 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:39.039 is happening. Every single one describes these seven foot guys in black body armor. 156 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.039 They even say, you know what, there's like, you know, 157 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:46.759 an arm piece of arm, you know, like the segmented body armor like 158 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:52.039 soldiers would wear. But who has this hubverboard technology? Why are they terrorizing 159 00:15:52.080 --> 00:16:00.399 these people? I don't know, so human, alien, cryptid? And 160 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:04.080 you know, I just go to if it is gold miners and you're going 161 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:10.480 through this whole elaborate When people start shooting at you with shotguns, it seems 162 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:12.600 to me like you might want to start rethinking your strategy because now you could 163 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:17.080 get killed. I don't care how good of the armor you think you've crafted. 164 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:19.639 So if it is, indeed, people assume that it is for a 165 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:23.679 moment, how smart would they be to continue doing it When you have people 166 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:26.759 shooting at them. What happens when they decide to shoot with something, you 167 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:32.159 know, a high powered rifle that's going to penetrate armor very quickly. Yeah, 168 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:33.919 you know, like y So, I don't know what to make of 169 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.919 it. I just don't know. It's all fun in games till they start 170 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:45.200 shooting at you. Yeah, I mean, and the technology itself does it? 171 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:49.200 Even jet packs? Yeah, they're cool, they're noisy, they only 172 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:56.320 last a couple of minutes. Usually who has the technology to snap into a 173 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:02.799 ten foot board and take off like a bat out of hell? Yeah, 174 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:07.160 I mean does that technology exist like that? I don't know, so that's 175 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.200 maybe. Yeah. So when I first heard about this, I'm like, 176 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:15.920 oh, I'm not wasting my time. This is nonsense. And then I 177 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.319 heard about it again, and then I watched the video and I'm like, 178 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:25.319 damn it. I don't know. So we'll leave that as an I'm leaning 179 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:32.440 towards humans, but I'm open to any any suggestions. Yeah, absolutely, 180 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.279 and we'll see. Maybe they'll have more reports coming out of Peru in the 181 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:40.480 next few months. Yeah, and apparently something similar might also be happening in 182 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:48.480 Brazil right now. So why don't we take our second break before our local 183 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:56.400 mothman expert continues with creatures flying through the air. This is Hudson River Radio 184 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:14.720 dot com. This is Hudson River Radio dot com. Okay, we are 185 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:22.119 going to go from Peru to West Virginia, to the West Virginia slash Ohio 186 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.720 border to a quaint little town called Point Pleasant. I know you have been 187 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.279 there, Linda, Absolutely, I have been there. A couple of years 188 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:33.279 ago. I made the drive from another West Virginia city where I was and 189 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:38.279 had to experience this place for myself. It's very cool. But we are 190 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:44.720 going to go to nineteen sixty six to nineteen sixty seven. Beginning with November 191 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:52.480 fifteenth of nineteen sixty six, a couple Roger and Linda Scarberry and Steve and 192 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.000 Mary Molett, are out one night in an area of Point Pleasant on the 193 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:00.920 outskirts, which are called the TNT Bunkers. So outside of Point Pleasant during 194 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:07.359 World War Two was a very large munitions plant and they had these concrete dome 195 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:15.440 bunkers built all over the property to store explosives, and they were apparently designed 196 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.559 with they had big steel blast doores so that if for some reason there was 197 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:23.799 an accidental discharge in one bunker, the explosion would be contained that it would 198 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:30.640 not create a chain reaction and suddenly trigger multiple bunkers. And you can go 199 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.039 check them out today. I know you went down there a few years ago 200 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:37.000 and got you. Yeah, some strange vibes there. I can say that, 201 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.880 yeah, they are. There's and they're everywhere. It's just odd. 202 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.519 You'll be walking into the woods and all of a sudden there's one and then 203 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.559 you walk, you know how many distance away, and another one and another 204 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:51.400 one. Yeah, and they're big. We're not talking like a ten foot 205 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:55.960 shed there. I don't know, what would you say, forty fifty feet 206 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.559 in diameter? Oh yeah, they're massive, yeah, massive. And they're 207 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.640 the acoustics in there, you know, if you talk, everything echoes and 208 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:07.079 reverberates because it's designed to contain an explosion. So it's designed to keep the 209 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.000 explosion in that that can that bunk or not outside of it. And it's 210 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:15.559 a popular hangout. You could tell just from when I was there two years 211 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:18.880 ago, the graffiti, you know, the alcohol bottles. Sure, it's 212 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:23.079 been a long a party place for people in Point Pleasant and will continue to 213 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:27.839 be. But on this night in November fifteenth of nineteen sixty six, this 214 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:33.519 couple is out there and they report to the police a very strange encounter. 215 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:41.279 They see a very large black creature with glowing red eyes, and it's on 216 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:45.559 the side of the road in this TNT area. They see this creature and 217 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:52.200 they take off in their vehicle and the creature pursues them. It follows them, 218 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.079 It flies after them all the way to the city line of Point Pleasant, 219 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:00.000 at which point it disappears now, and it did to the description of, 220 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:04.279 you know, a large black creature with glowing red eyes. One of 221 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:11.160 the witnesses that night described it as a very tall, thin, muscular man, 222 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:18.400 about the height of a adult male, with a seven foot wingspan. 223 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:26.519 This witness also said, you know, the eyes were hypnotic, which prevented 224 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:30.920 her from accurately remembering what the face looked like. So, even though you 225 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:34.559 know, they could recall these big red eyes, the eyes were so hypnotic 226 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:40.480 that no details of the face seemed to be evident. And they report this 227 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:44.599 to the police, which I find interesting. So and of course it hits 228 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:49.720 the local newspapers. Well, what follows is an entire wave of sightings of 229 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:56.680 this creature. A volunteer fireman, two volunteer firemen actually reported seeing what they 230 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:04.240 thought was a giant bird with glowing red eyes. And of course people thought 231 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:08.960 this was a real bird, maybe maybe it was a heron. The local 232 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:14.359 sheriff thought that people were seeing a giant heron bird who apparently has some red 233 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.240 around the eye, which could have been mistaken for a giant glowing red eyes, 234 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:23.160 but the reports kept coming in. Another witness, a man by the 235 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:27.640 name of Newel Partridge, a contractor, reported he saw the creature one night 236 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:34.319 and he shone a flashlight at it, and the eyes reflected off of the 237 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:41.519 light, reflected from the light like red reflectors on a bicycle wheel, so 238 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:49.319 they're light reactive. Now. This gentleman also felt that his dog had been 239 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:55.640 stolen by the creature and that the creature had been interfering in his television and 240 00:22:55.680 --> 00:23:00.400 other electronics. So there's a lot more to his encounter there. Yuh, 241 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:06.640 Mike, If I can just add, when I was researching this about the 242 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:11.240 missing dog, I said, you know what, let me go to Lost 243 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.640 and Found of the local papers. A lot of dogs were going missing in 244 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:22.039 that area around that time. Yeah, yep, I did not know that 245 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.279 detail. But that's fascinating. So it's not just mister Partridge there that's missing 246 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.640 a dog, A lot of dogs. I don't know what's typical, but 247 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:37.119 I went through weeks of newspaper lost and found items and just an awful lot 248 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:41.920 of dogs seemed an inordinate amount. And it's not a very huge place, 249 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:47.440 no pleasant at all. We're not talking we're not talking to New York City 250 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:51.960 here. It's much smaller community. Now, biologists at the time thought this 251 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:56.559 was a sand hill crane which people were seeing, and apparently it was not 252 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:02.720 a normal bird be seen in this area, but it could have come off 253 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:06.440 its migration routes, and the sand hill crane could be the height of a 254 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.480 man, had about a seven foot wingspan, and it had a red coloring 255 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:15.839 around the eyes. So yeah, biologist exploit. Yeah, well, I 256 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:21.039 see sand hill cranes in Florida all the time. I've yet to see one 257 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:25.440 that looks like a seven foot mothman. Well, well, and that's what 258 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:26.839 when I looked at pictures. I've never seen one in person. But the 259 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:33.240 pictures don't look miss like you'd misstake. No, they look like birds. 260 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:40.240 And I've never had one chase my car. You know. They're just big, 261 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:47.319 noisy birds. You can't mistake them for anything else. And some also 262 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:51.559 have claimed it was owls, a giant owl. Oh, yes, people 263 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:56.000 have mistaken and of course the herons. But so the local press, of 264 00:24:56.039 --> 00:25:02.079 course, coins are very very popular. Name that has stuck to this day, 265 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:06.119 and that is they called it the mothman. So the term mothman comes 266 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.759 from the press who was writing about this, and to this day, if 267 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.559 you go to Point Pleasant. They have the Mothman Museum, which is you 268 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:15.200 know, it's pretty cool. It's got a lot of stuff and there it's 269 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.039 fun. Yeah, yeah, you know it's They have a Mothman Festival, 270 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:21.960 which I have not been to, but that seems like probably a lot of 271 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:26.400 fun. Yeah. The statue is super cool. Yes, there's out the 272 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.559 street. Yes, yep, I had to. I had to pose for 273 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.480 a few pictures in front of it, of course, didn't we all. 274 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:37.000 And I think the festival festival would be fun to go to, just like 275 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:38.799 the Pine Boots Festival. It be it's a fun probably event. It looks 276 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:44.079 like a great time. But maybe someday. But now here's where the Mothman 277 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:48.799 story takes a really interesting turn. December fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven, so 278 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.559 actually the anniversary date. You know, we're recording this in December eleventh, 279 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.640 just for context that we're very close to the anniversary here as we talk about 280 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:02.559 it. But there's a bridge called the Point Pleasant Bridge, which connected the 281 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:07.240 town of Gallipolis, Ohio to Point Pleasant, spanning the Ohio River. The 282 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:11.599 locals had called it the Silver Bridge because of the bright aluminum silver color of 283 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.400 the bridge. And this bridge has been around for some time. It was 284 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.680 not a new bridge. It was a one thousand, seven hundred and sixty 285 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:25.359 foot eyebar suspension bridge sitting one hundred and two feet above the river. So 286 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:30.480 this was the main crossing and on December fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven, in 287 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:34.440 the early evening hours before five pm, this was a busy time. You 288 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.920 had holiday shoppers and traffic. You had the commuters coming home from work. 289 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:44.079 The estimates of vehicle traffic on that bridge daily was up to four thousand vehicles 290 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:48.960 a day, twenty percent of which were trucks. So this is a major, 291 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:55.319 you know, artery in terms of connecting the two communities. Well, 292 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:03.519 at five pm, people report hearing blosion like a gunshot sound. Suddenly the 293 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:08.640 bridge collapsed, as described by witnesses like a deck of cards. It folded 294 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:18.759 and a sixty foot span of the bridge within twenty seconds had fallen into the 295 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:23.599 river, taking with it thirty two cars and forty six lives. All but 296 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:29.440 two bodies were recovered. So two of the bodies that were washed into the 297 00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.279 off of the bridge and into the water that night were never recovered, which 298 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:38.000 is just an extra sad element to that. Now the bridge had been inspected 299 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:42.599 that summer twice and in fact, on December sixth of that year, had 300 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:48.680 a final inspection with an engineer visiting the site. Yeah, well they missed 301 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:53.160 something, didn't they. Yeah. And now what was concluded years later, 302 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:57.880 after very exhaustive analysis was, and I I'll summarize the this is how much 303 00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:03.119 of a detail they came up with. It was a cleavage fracture in a 304 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.920 lower limb of an eye of eyebar three hundred and thirty at joint C one 305 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:14.400 three ncaused by forty years of stress, corrosion and fatigue. The flaw itself 306 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:19.160 was a crack of about two point five millimeters that led to this. So, 307 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.720 of course, you know, a bridge, any type of a major 308 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:26.720 catastrophe like this leads to change. Old bridges suddenly were being you know, 309 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:34.039 reinspected and either replaced brought up the code. But the Mothman incident became viewed 310 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:40.880 as the sort of harbringer of the Silver Bridge collapse because the encounters with Mothman 311 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:47.359 stopped with the bridge collapse. And wasn't he supposedly seen on the bridge before 312 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.559 the collapse. There were there were stories about that, but I couldn't verify 313 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:56.119 yeah, where they came from them. So but yeah, so over one 314 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.240 hundred witnesses reported seeing the Mothman. Of course, you know, skeptics and 315 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.799 others thought this was an owl, this was the crane we talked about a 316 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:11.640 heron. But an investigative journalist and US Army that named John Keel wanted to 317 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.680 investigate this for himself. And John Keel went down there and spent months with 318 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:23.079 a reporter following up leads and investigating and talking to witnesses, and he wrote 319 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:32.359 The Mothman Prophecies, a book about his experiences his investigation, and if people 320 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.319 haven't read any of John Keel's work, I highly recommend it. I mean, 321 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.480 the whole term men in black was coined by John Keel. You know, 322 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.200 that's a term he came up with. So that's the origin of that. 323 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:51.640 And what he noted in nineteen sixty seven John Keel about the the Mothman 324 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:57.319 was that there was a significant overlap between psychic phenomenon and UFO encounters. And 325 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:03.880 John Keel is a big proponent at the time of extraterrestrial theory, being that 326 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.000 you know, UFOs and things were coming from outside of the Earth. These 327 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:12.480 were alien visitors but his investigation ultimately led him to other conclusions and that and 328 00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:19.759 I'm going to sort of summarize this. It's that objects and apparitions that were 329 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:26.599 being encountered didn't originate from other planets, that they were actually may not exist 330 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:33.799 as permanent constructions of matter at all, and that they may have been basically 331 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.599 we were seeing what we want to see based upon our own belief systems. 332 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:42.079 These were ultra terrestrials as the term he ended up going with, sort of 333 00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:48.559 an interdimensional component. Later, Jay Allen Heinek would be a supporter of this 334 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:53.359 theory of ultraterrestrials and that essentially UFOs Mothman. You know, all of these 335 00:30:53.480 --> 00:31:02.440 odd encounters were all just our own interpretation of similar phenomena, and you can 336 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.319 make of it what you will. For that, I find it an interesting 337 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.759 hypothesis or theory. And you know, the Mothman's not the only West Virginia 338 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.079 creature. I know we're going to talk about that on another episode. But 339 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:18.359 yes, yeah, kind of similar. Yeah, yeah, So do you 340 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.599 put this in the cryptid alien harbinger of doom or trying to warn people? 341 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:29.920 Category? So you know, John Kill would have put it in a kind 342 00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:32.240 of a mixture of all of them, I think, because he did think 343 00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:40.119 that the Mothman was a warning of this impending disaster. I personally don't know 344 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:45.480 what to make of it. I tend to lean towards this ultra terrestrial theory 345 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:52.839 as being somewhat maybe maybe plausible under a lot of conditions, because it does 346 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.400 explain, you know, perhaps not all UFO sightings are attributed to extraterrestrials. 347 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:01.680 Maybe they all are not from another planet, another civilization, you know, 348 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.000 maybe there are multiple explanations. The one thing I'm certain of is it wasn't 349 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.680 a sandhill crane. No. That's and I go back to people were seeing 350 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.000 things. They were definitely seeing something that was not a crane, that wasn't 351 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:21.920 a giant owl. You know, people were seeing things that they were reporting 352 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.319 to the police that this is what they saw. Yeah, and luring a 353 00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:30.559 time in a very conservative community where talking about stuff like this would get you 354 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:37.680 labeled a lunatic. So they had to be genuinely scared to talk about it, 355 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.960 Especially again the nineteen sixties. This is not a time where people ran 356 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:47.559 around, you know, publicly boasting about their ufone counters. No, no, 357 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.279 no one wanted to do that. So any of our listeners, if 358 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:52.559 you ever get a chance, go down to Point Pleasant. It's actually a 359 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.079 really cool little town. It's got a giant floodwall around it, which I 360 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.319 thought was the most next to them off Man, the coolest thing. You 361 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:04.599 know. They can actually put a wooden boards up across the gate and block 362 00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.000 the town off from a flood, and I thought that was next to the 363 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.359 moth Man. I mean, I asked them, old timer on the porch, 364 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.839 I'm like, what is this for? He goes, oh, so 365 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.200 when the river's gonna flood, they have boards. They can put them in 366 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:20.759 the slots and block the town off. So very cool. Get down there. 367 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.920 You can go to the Silver Bridge. Has a little bit of a 368 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.680 memorial there where the bridge once stood, and I think it's important. I 369 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.400 went there to make sure I paid my respect to those who who did lose 370 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.680 their lives there, because these were people, and you know, it's a 371 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.759 couple of weeks before Christmas to have something like this happened. So get down 372 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.480 there, go to the Mothman. Folks may go to the museum and buy 373 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:46.880 some Mothman cola, and yes, go out to those TNT bunkers. They're 374 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:53.319 they're cool. Creepy. They are creepy for sure. I recommend it though, 375 00:33:54.319 --> 00:34:00.759 Yeah, yeah, we like creepy. So let us shift gears completely 376 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:06.359 and go to the other side of the world. For the Haitachi region of 377 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:13.559 Japan February twenty second, eighteen oh three, this is known as the Otsuru 378 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:20.320 Bune case. That atsuru Bune means hollow boat. So a group of fishermen 379 00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.559 see a boat. It's about ten feet they call it a boat. It's 380 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:29.199 floating on the water. It's about ten feet high, about eighteen feet wide. 381 00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:34.760 They describe it as being like an incense burner, which is like arounded. 382 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.480 You can go and look up. There where manuscripts about this. What 383 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:45.400 it looks like is a classic flying saucer with a copper bottom, the bottom 384 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.480 of it copper. Okay, So it's a top and bottom and it's an 385 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.519 enclosed thing, glass windows. So they pull it ashore, they open it. 386 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:59.800 They see this strange writing on the wall. It's in an unknown language. 387 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.920 They even get into the detail that there was three point six liters of 388 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.679 water on board, some meat, and some type of bread. So this 389 00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:15.159 is like, you know, this is not your typical fishermen. They're taking 390 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:20.760 and accurate. There also happens to be a beautiful woman, but she's definitely 391 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:27.000 not Japanese. She looks to be about eighteen to twenty years old, red 392 00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:32.960 eyebrows, red hair, with some sort of white fabric hair extensions. She's 393 00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:39.880 wearing long clothes of an unknown material. She's about five feet tall, very 394 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:46.719 pale skin, and she's holding a box that's about nine inches square, and 395 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:52.039 she was adamant. She wouldn't let anyone touch the box. Nobody could get 396 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:57.920 near the box. Okay, they try to talk to her. She speaks 397 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:02.519 an unknown language. So what do the people think? What do we do? 398 00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:07.880 Who is this strange woman? So people think she might be a queen 399 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:16.119 of a foreign land who was outcast for adultery and her lover's head was in 400 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:22.400 the box. Really this is your go to explanation. That was quite the 401 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:30.760 quite the random explanation that come up with from that. Yeah, I don't 402 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.320 even know where to go with that. But the bottom line is the people 403 00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:38.079 are all very scared because this probably isn't a good thing. This you know, 404 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:42.599 woman who doesn't look like them, she doesn't talk like them. She's 405 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:47.559 in this bizarre craft. So they put her back in her craft and push 406 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:53.440 her back out to see and that's that's the end of this mysterious female. 407 00:36:54.239 --> 00:37:00.840 So in recent years a researcher by the name of Tanaka thought this was all 408 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:07.880 nonsense. So he thought they could have been embellishing the account of a Russian 409 00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:17.480 whaling ship that had been shipwrecked. What how many redheaded women are on Russian 410 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:24.199 whaling ships and a whaling ship is rather large because you have to put whales 411 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:31.360 on it. I'm sure what's worse, the adulterous queen being expelled with a 412 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:35.480 head in a box or the whaling ship. I mean they're both sort of 413 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.400 to me, like, really, I know. Well, Tanaka looks into 414 00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:45.519 it and he finally realizes he found finds eleven original documents from the early eighteen 415 00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:52.039 hundreds discussing this account. You can look it up. You see illustrations of 416 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:57.000 the craft. It is not a typical sailing vessel. It is an enclosed 417 00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:01.880 craft with a metallic copper bottom at the very least. So you know, 418 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:07.039 what are we looking at here? We're looking at a human, a human 419 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:13.119 looking alien or is it a Russian whaler? This is for you to decide. 420 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.920 You could see that the pictures, the contemporary drawings of it look nothing 421 00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:22.000 like a ship at all, a whaling ship or any any boat, any 422 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:28.639 boat you know covered like that what boats were covered, you know, and 423 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:35.199 disc shaped and they said copper cladding on the bottom. So it's metallic, 424 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:43.840 saucer shaped, strange woman, strange language, strange material. Yeah, I 425 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.719 don't know what to I don't know what to make of that one either, 426 00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:53.519 So that was just a quickie, little uh, throw a little Japanese monkey 427 00:38:53.559 --> 00:39:00.840 wrench into uh, you know, not all aliens may look like Mothman. 428 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:07.039 But so the last one, we're going to Poland. Now have you ever 429 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:15.360 been to emilsin Poland? E M I lcin. They have, But my 430 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.199 goal is to get the Poland next year or the year after. Okay, 431 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:22.159 well you're going to have to look because they have a UFO monument there which 432 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.360 I'll get to at the end of this. So there's a lot of material 433 00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.800 on this case, but it's all in Polish and I can't understand it. 434 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:40.119 There's videos, there's interviews, extensive interviews with the primary witness, but I 435 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:45.440 can't understand it. So what's available in English is that on May tenth, 436 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:52.960 nineteen seventy eight, seventy one year old jen Jan Wolski, who they described 437 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:59.159 as being a peasant, that's their words, not mine, was driving a 438 00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:04.039 horse drawn wagon through a wooden area and there on the side of the road 439 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:13.679 are two short, green faced humanoid entities five feet tall, green face, 440 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:20.599 webbed fingers, and wearing black, tight fitting hood and an outfit kind of 441 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:25.840 like overalls. And he said they had slanted eyes and very prominent cheekbones. 442 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:34.039 So obviously Yan didn't get around much because he thought they must be foreigners. 443 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:42.079 I love that detail, Yeah, but maybe a little the green skin part 444 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:46.679 was not a clue here. I mean a well, you know, you're 445 00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:53.519 living in communist poland you don't get out much, you know, so they're 446 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:59.199 probably a little more foreign than he thought. So yeah, these creatures then 447 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:05.920 jump on to his cart and start talking to him in some strange foreign language. 448 00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.760 And this is a quote from him. They were talking to me in 449 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.039 thin voices. Unknown to me. I didn't understand any of it. I 450 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:21.320 drove out from behind these bushes and there's this, well, some small car 451 00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:27.119 hovering in the air. Now that made me wonder that a car can hang 452 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:31.960 in the air and float up and down a meter or so. That's what 453 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.639 made him wonder. So what he's seeing is a craft about fifteen feet above 454 00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:45.639 the ground illustrations. It almost looks like a white tent, but made out 455 00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:50.840 of a hard material as long as a bus. And this is very bizarre. 456 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:59.079 At each corner of this tent like craft, there were four screwlike holes 457 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:04.280 like the curve of like giant drill bits that seem to be holding it up 458 00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:08.480 and in place. And the whole thing is humming and moving up and down. 459 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:14.360 There's a small platform on the ground with four posts. It was a 460 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:19.719 little elevator, so they motion him toward the craft. He steps on the 461 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.800 platform and it rises him up to this open doorway. He goes in. 462 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:31.159 He sees there's four other green forigners. There are eight small benches along the 463 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:37.960 walls, and he notices on the floor this is an interesting thing. Birds 464 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:43.880 kind of like ravens. They were moving their legs and wings a little, 465 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.960 but they seemed unable to get away. So whatever these forigners were, they 466 00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:55.559 captured some birds too, So I don't know if he was drugged or what, 467 00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:01.920 but they motioned for him to undress so he does, I don't know, 468 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:07.920 just dropping trousers because a green guy with webbed fingers wants you to is 469 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:15.079 a I know, this sounds silly. We'll get through this together. So 470 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:20.639 they examine him with two objects that look like plates or small symbols like they 471 00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:22.639 have, like you know, the way you wear symbols and you smack them 472 00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:30.719 together. This seems to be how they're they're whatever examining him, and then 473 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.639 they gesture him for to put his clothes back on, so, you know, 474 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.719 abducting humans and examining them as hard work. So they start eating something 475 00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:49.119 that I translations. Either it looked like honey or icicles, so I don't 476 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:53.519 know which it was. And he at least wisely declined to eat this strange 477 00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:59.199 food. And as he's about to get back on the elevator, he nods 478 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.920 and tips his head and they nod back to him. So they're all very 479 00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:06.679 polite. This was, you know, not an abduction, an invitation. 480 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:12.119 So yes, so he goes down the elevator, gets back on his cart, 481 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:19.159 goes home, tells his family come see the floating object. So his 482 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:23.119 family and neighbors come. They go there. The craft, of course is 483 00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:29.280 gone, but the grass, they said, was trodden down, covered in 484 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:35.760 dew, and paths in all direction and footprints, so something had been there 485 00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:43.880 and people had walked all around. Supposedly, a local boy said he saw 486 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:51.679 the same craft hovering over a barn, but it looks like the local ufologist, 487 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:58.880 a man by the name of Zadisloff Blondin, manipulated this boy's testimony to 488 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:05.519 say it. At the very least, this Blondin really pushed the case and 489 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:13.920 profited a lot articles, interviews, a book, so critics say, well, 490 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:19.119 this guy had been this old guy had been drugged. It was a 491 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:28.079 complete hoax because this other he was Blonin was having a feud with this other 492 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:35.920 ufologist, and the ufologist knew how to hypnotize people, so he hypnotized Wallski. 493 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:42.519 I mean it. The explanations seemed to get sillier than the story, 494 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:51.400 but whatever it was. In two thousand and five, the town erected monument 495 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:55.639 to this. It's like a large monolith with a metallic cube on top, 496 00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:01.320 and the inscription reads. On May tenth, nineteen seventy eight, in Emilsen, 497 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:08.119 a UFO object landed the truth will surprise us in the future. Whatever 498 00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:14.719 that means so you have someplace to visit when you go to Poland. So 499 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:25.119 hoax foreigners, aliens just I don't know, the majority of people seem to 500 00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:30.599 think somehow it's a hoax. But the guy never changed his story, and 501 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:35.719 you can see even if you don't speak Polish, you can see his interview 502 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:40.480 and he believes in what he saw. I don't, I don't know. 503 00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:49.280 And you know you mentioned to the sounds like a lesson scrupulous ufologist got involved, 504 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:53.880 And yeah, I think that's been part of the negative, you know, 505 00:46:54.360 --> 00:47:00.000 overshadowing of the whole field, is that the people out there doing good 506 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.920 work and hard work are always overshadowed by those who are not in it for 507 00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.400 the right reasons. They're in it for the money, the glory of the 508 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:13.159 fame, whatever it is, and then they use those people with a you 509 00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.159 know, broad strokes to paint us all in the same vein, which is 510 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:21.760 unfortunate. Yeah, and yeah, yeah, to this day, those who 511 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:30.880 need to make money off this topic are yeah, less than I don't know 512 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:36.039 what word to use, not always honest. And a lot of people, 513 00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:39.280 as we see, will do and say anything for money, so they will 514 00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:44.559 and to be on TV or to make make a movie whatever it is. 515 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.800 Documentary, yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate. So who knows, who knows. 516 00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:51.679 But when you're in Poland, you'll have to talk to the locals, 517 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:55.679 see the monument and then report back to us. So I will I may 518 00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:59.599 have to do it on the ground interview from that. That's right. It 519 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.800 looks the monument looks really cool, by the way it is. It looks 520 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:07.320 really cool, very neat monument. So that's it for our bizarre entities for 521 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:12.519 now, but more to come in part two in our next episode, so 522 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:17.039 take us out. So thank you everybody listening here and far close wherever you 523 00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:21.880 may be on this planet, another planet, or perhaps another dimension, but 524 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:28.159 we do thank you and appreciate your continued patronage of the program, and make 525 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:35.719 sure you tune in the part two. Hudson River Radio dot com. Your 526 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:36.599 dad likes us.