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Hey everyone, It's Tuesday, August
the thirty first, twenty ten, and

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you're listening to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm your host, Ryan Davis,

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joined by Vinny Caravella. I'll play
with Jeff Gerstman and Brad Shoemaker. Also

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joined by very special guest Giant Bomb
contributor Brad Nicholson. Hey. That was

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that was That was the sinct and
effective. That was d Nicholson. Hey,

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here we go. Let's looking for
a little little energy. Brad.

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Good to have you here in the
studio and in the office. Oh wait,

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you're gonna keep You're gonna play that
game all show on pretty much it

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okay, all right, I guess
I'll just call you Shoemaker. Then I'll

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start being that guy call everyone by
their last name. Can I change my

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last name? Hey? Jeff?
Hey, Hi? Sorry? Yeah,

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maybe you didn't understand that I was
talking to you. When I said sorry,

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I wasn't paying attention. I try
not to listen to the most things

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that you say. So how are
you doing, Jeff? I'm doing alright?

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Yeah, yeah, doing good?
Yeah? Of any how? You

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doing also doing alright? Yeah?
Yeah? How how are you doing?

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I'm great? Right, I'm doing
good. It's it's packs week y'all.

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Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna packs
this weekend. And so I've been kind

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of trying to figure out our our
panel plans and our meet up plans and

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various other plans that we might have
during the show. And it's all space

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plans. It's all coming up awesome. There are no currently no space plans,

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although I understand the Space Needle is
in Seattle, so I went there

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once. How was it? It
was up high, I've never been.

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I saw the base of it.
I saw the weird experience music that the

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other rock and roll Hall of Fame's
weird thing, but I have not.

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He's gonna eventually just sue the real
rock and roll Hall of Fame or some

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kind of patent thing. I'm sure
I own it all. That's right,

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all right, if any care?
Actually I didn't, Brad Shawmaker, how

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you doing terrible? Oh no,
it's going okay. Was looking for some

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contrast, Brad Nicholson about yourself.
I'm doing okay. I'm doing okay,

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excellent. How is it to be
out on the West Coast? Where do

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you live normally? I live on
an island in South Carolina. Really I

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saw two oceans and two days.
Yeah, I didn't know there were until

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West Island. Yeah, I wish, I wish late drastic part Auford,

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Buford, Beauford. You and me
the only people in this room who know

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how to properly pronounce that. Oh
Beauford, Budford, Bufford. I mean,

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if you looked at it, it
looks like Beaufort right right. Oh,

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okay, and was I'm sure at
one point in the past, until

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it was perverted by whatever Southern men, whatever dark forces you know, traditions

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down there. Bright Nicholson, is
a pleasure and a treat to have you

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here in the office out on the
West coast. We will get into your

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business in a little bit, but
first I want to talk to my favorite

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person, viny Caravella, my business. I want to get all up in

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your business. But I want to
know what games you've been playing at,

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viny Caravella. So I made it
through by Atta this weekending. I saw

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you playing some of that. How
is that that? You know? How

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that is? How did you feel
it? I thought that game was great,

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It's excellent. It's crazy. I
really enjoyed it longer than I thought,

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like that game has probably took me
about fifteen hours to make it through

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it. I thought it was gonna
be about eight. I can't recall.

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I just I'm thinking all I can
recall our specific moments of insanity. It

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just keeps going and going and going. It kind of does, definitely from

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watching you play it, I seem
to remember it going and going and going.

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Yeah, that sounds about right.
But I really enjoyed it and I

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beat it, and then I bought
it through Game Fly. I said,

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I like this game a lot.
I like it enough that I'm gonna even

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though I just finished it, So
are you gonna play through it? I'm

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like, because that's that's where me
and Banetta had to part ways? Is

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I had I enjoyed the experience a
lot, and it's got all sorts of

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buck wild shit in it. Yeah, but I don't know. It wasn't

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a game that I was like,
Oh, I want to now play this

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on the harder difficulty. No,
I don't think I'll play it on the

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harder difficulty, but uh so it
gives you other new game plus and it

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starts on hard and I just busted
it back down to normal, and I

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was like, I'm just gonna unlock
the rest of these crazy things that they

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want to give you, like outfits
and all those all those things I couldn't

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afford during the game because they're expensive. All the accessories and stuff, really

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I had, there's a bunch.
I feel like I had a good majority.

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Really yeah, huh, And I
bought some techniques, but like all

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the weird things like wristbands and stuff. Oh, there's a lot of crazy

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stuff in that game. And I
like it enough. Weird references to Resident

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Evil four and yeah, and you
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on the bus and uh, that's
a good game to appreciate Japanese development and

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like it's it's so crazy it I
mean, it has that unique feel like

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it is the most Japanese ass Japanese
developed game that I've played, but also

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kind of like accessible in like a
weird kind of It's not Japanese in the

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way like weird JRPG way where you're
like, oh, it's fucking JRPG conventions

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are weird. This is just weird
of the dudes, like being weird.

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Yeah, it's really hard JRPG conventions
like fight and spiky hair, but you

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know, all the all the kind
of tropes and like things that you're like,

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I don't want to play JRPG because
I know exactly what's like. You

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don't know exactly what's in Badma because
it's fucking insane. It's like because it's

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after Burner or something, because yeah, because it turns into like weird it's

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it's it's got the weird things that
metal Gear used to kind of have,

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or it's like why would you even
throw this weird thing in your kind of

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weird serious just a bunch of wild
non sits, right, yeah, and

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uh, which I'm sure aren't non
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The game has like six end credits
start rolling and then like interrupts the credits

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and you're like, well, like
like six sequential endings, like yeah the

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other then you do this, they
like interrupt your credits like you're got done,

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Yeah, you gotta finish the game. I was like okay, and

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then Mike Return of the King like, well, it's a long phades to

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black and it's like, oh,
I'm just kidding, here's another one kind

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of and then there's like a large
dance sequence at the end, and then

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yeah, it's it's really I don't
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have blocked out good portion of this
stuff. I remember it being very crazy,

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and also the story there is one, it's a little weird. On

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the strength of our bus conversation,
I too, bought Byanetta this morning.

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Nice, it's on sale. It's
like fifteen bucks. Fifteen bucks on game

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flight. So I don't know what
comes next. Something awesome, what that's

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the next step? I bought Byanetta, and I bought God of War three

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this morning. Tell me about your
plans to camp as soon as those okay?

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First of all, so okay,
So I bought Banetta, which has

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been sitting on my coffee table since
April, yes, September. So fifteen

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bucks a month through the math,
it's a lot. You paid too much

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money or ninety dollars now blatta bat
Gotta War three checked my queue to make

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sure there was nothing in there.
Yep, there was what was brandically cleared

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it out so they wouldn't mail me
another game. As soon as those games

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come in the mail like done,
done done, Just can't I mean you

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can cancel it now? Yeah,
they'll actually run you to like the end

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of your cycle. So no,
they don't run into the end of your

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cycle anymore at least I was canceling. It was like, are you sure

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you got four more days in your
thing if you cancel now? If you

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want to get the maximumount of gaming, like like the cancelation process serious amazing

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buttons that's special offers, and like, hey what if, yeah, what

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if the next month was only fifteen
bucks and you got to keep two games?

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What I did? Do that?
I did that. They totally got

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me with that. You're right,
that's exactly how the process was for me.

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And it was one of those like
if yeah, if it's for cheaper

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than yes, I will hang on
to it for one more month. And

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I hold held on to it for
one of more months and then canceled,

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and then they bust. Okay,
but you actually canceled. I actually actually

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sprouting on you to just like forget
Nope, nope. I had like a

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and then I got I got an
email from the you know, like an

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automated email like yesterday saying like,
hey, what you would you want to

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bro We haven't hung out in a
while. I should catch up. You

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want to maybe sign I'm gonna be
in town, but if you want to

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you know, like rent some games
over the internet. Just give me a

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call. No, I'm just gonna
be around. No, it's it's cool.

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Thanks for yeah, in touch,
but don't they have a very uh

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methodical system in place at game fly
for customer retention, and it's I'm surprised

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I was able to even do it
from the website all that stuff. Then

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it was like, okay, call, but you know, make sure it's

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between eight and four Eastern time,
Eastern time, Thursday. You know.

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I think they offer a valuable they
offer a decent service. I think for

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some people it's probably a totally fine
service. We're not the right people.

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We are not they. This is
not this is not yet to be clear,

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this is not game Fli's fault.
Really. I mean it's you know,

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it works well for what it is. Yeah, yeah, it's just

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that we're like who yeah, Like
that was the other thing is they kept

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saying like we're faster now. Yeah, we opened up more centers. That's

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not bad. The problem is that
I just get your games then never play

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months at a time, so I'm
very slow. I mean Netflix is the

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same thing, but at least you've
got the streaming option to get some extra

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value out of it right, like, oh, you know I've had you

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know, that copy of JCVD sitting
on my Yeah, that's that's an HD

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on the streaming watch that I have
cream Zone right now I had I've had

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a copy of Memento since April of
two thousand and nine. Ye dude,

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what yeah? So did you play
all of Bayonetta over the weekend or was

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it just like you already had a
game going and he barreled through. No,

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I just got it. Want to
sep terminator salvation Jesus. Yeah,

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it's fast, leaned up some Bayonetta. Nice, well done again, I

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liked it. Good played some Shank. Not not to get you personal as

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your wife back. She came back
on Sunday. Yeah, man, the

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house clean, I did your daily
caloric intake is a dropping I hope.

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So, Man, I gained like
fifteen pounds less she was away. Uh

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so, Shank, Let's talk about
Shank. Let's talk about it. Let's

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talk about Shank. How do you
feel about How do you feel about Shank?

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Uh? I started burning out about
I must be about eighty percent through?

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Okay, how many how many hours
would you say you put in about

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two and a half three? Yeah, it's about your close and so I

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can tell just because the achievements are
staggered for the each boss, dude,

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you kill them and all got one
left? Uh? Is it one of

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those just play through the story and
you've got everything. You got a couple

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of other ones. There's there's a
few sundry ones. But yeah, uh,

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I'm burning out on it. Yeah, yeah, I can feel you

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on that. I can see why
that game would have a short playtime because

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I'm pretty much done at two and
a half three hours. I mean,

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it's still like, I think they've
done some interesting stuff with like the the

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way the mechanics work of you have
basically like three attacks and how you have

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to constantly like you know, mix
those up to keep your opponents on their

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toes. And it's you know,
it's got a good pace, and yeah,

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I mean it's clearly mostly a huge, awesome graphical show piece. It's

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all that's like the quality of the
sprite work, the quality of the animations,

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how brutal everything looks like. It's
I don't think I have that ever

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lost the novelty for me of just
how how badass everything that happens in that

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game looks. But after a while, like it's still it's still a beat

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them up. It's still it's still
falls prey to the issues that have always

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plagued that that generally, and there
are some weird things like with the animation

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being so good and aren't stall being
so stand out, it does make some

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of the rougher edges stand out when
they crop up, like what uh like

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sometimes the controls feel too prioritize for
the animation. Yeah, there's there's some

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of that for sure, and you
kind of have to be pretty quick on

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your feet, so sometimes it feels
weird and also just like weird buggy things

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like like dudes falling off ledges or
you know. I think it takes a

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little a little bit of anticipation.
I don't think it's I don't think it

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grossly over prioritizes the animation, but
like want sometimes where if you're like I

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need to be doing this other attack
right now and hammering the button, but

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I'm still playing out my last especially
in the switching weapons part, where like

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you're like caught in the middle of
something and you're like Christ and there I

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go. It's kind of hard.
It does, absolutely there was I was

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paying my head against that last boss
for a while last week, and that's

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one of the things that kind of
bothers I don't I don't love the boss

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fights in that game, particularly like
the big ones that just like the big

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dudes that basically the same. It's
like, figure out the weakness, but

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they're just gonna run back and forth. The fact that those are so similar

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as a little a little this point, I will say that game has way

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more story than I anticipated at having. I'm still kind of confused on the

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story. I mean, because I
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making it all up in his head. I think it'll make more sense once

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you get there. But it's definitely
like it's a it's a Tarantino Rodriguez esque

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kind of just okay, gritty tale
of badassory. Well because every time it

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just seems like he keeps killing people
he thinks killed his wife, right,

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So like every time you get you
go after this one guy, so you

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killed my wife, and then you
kill him. Then suddenly you have a

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flashback and there's somebody and the Brad's
in the room. You're like, oh,

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I should go kill Brad. He
was there, and he killed Brad

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and then all of a sudden,
Ryan was in the room with you,

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guys, like, oh, you
were there too, It'll kill you.

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So there's some cool story tello,
some cool storytelling techniques, like they have

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your kind of standard between mission cutscene
stuff, but they'll also do cool stuff

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where they will like kind of a
letterbox like picture and picture something that's happening

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elsewhere while you're I thought that stuff
was really cool, Like I think it's

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it's play throughout the first three levels
or so, so like one boss fighting,

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and I was kind of burning out
on it. So yeah, and

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like I'm a I'm a big fan
of the the initial impression that game gives,

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but it's really hard to keep up
over the course of I don't know,

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ye four hours. My feeling was
just that it felt like the enemies

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took too long to die. It
was just like, Okay, these like

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real basic guys, and I have
to sit there and just jack these buttons

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for a lot longer to stab these
guys like sixty seventy times or something before

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they die or and eventually much it
is eventually I think you come up with

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you figure out which like a combination
of buttons will engage you with a guy

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until his health bars depleted, So
like how long you can string together a

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combo on one dude? And I
was getting you know, like piles of

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guys and stringing together like one hundred
and twenty hits and stuff like that.

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But just like, yeah, it
gets a little tedious. Yeah, very

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tedious. Uh, but again I
would be fan and supporter. It's just

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you know, it's hard to keep
it going. It's still it's still beat

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them up, you know. I
feel like I feel like people have been

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trying to like reinvent or modernize the
beat them up since they invented the fucking

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I feel like we've spent as much
time trying to figure out how to make

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that stuff work now as it was
ever its own stand up genre. So

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also some of the weapons that I
was not getting into, like the little

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submachine guns, it was like the
I don't love those. I was just

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once I got the shot, the
second weapon you get yeah, and I

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was like I also I also went
to machetes after I got that, after

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the chain saw the machetes are a
lot. Then I got the katana and

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I was like, that's kind of
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I mean, the katana is good
because I can engage the big guys with

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it, sure, but I feel
like it should be stronger. And that's

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the problem I had. But it
I can't remember what there was. There

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was a reason why I went back
to the I like, you get these

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like you get the chains on your
knuckles. Yeah, I use that because

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you can then grab guys and use
them as human shields, all right,

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and that becomes pretty good for a
crowd control my uh. I mean that's

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all that game is about, is
is full crowd control. Okay, I

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have to make sure to keep all
these guys engaged or also the guy that's

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on the other end of the screen
it's gonna start shooting at me and messing

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me up. Yeah. The only
times that I got really frustrated, like

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I said, some of the boss
stuff. There's also a few sequences where

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they would put dudes on ledges above
you, and when you shoot, you

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can't shoot like straight up, like
straight directly up, so you can only

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shoot like up at an angle.
So it's like you have to put yourself

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in this weird position to like I
feel like the shooting in that game is

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more kin to like a melee weapon
than I mean, that's kind of how

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I use the shotgun is it's like
a medium range melee weapon effectively, there's

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a there's a have to do that
shit. I just didn't care for it

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where like the missiles are coming down
that I did not enjoy. Oh on

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the train, no pass that like
in the villa or something when you're fighting

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the priest. Oh yeah, because
some of it seems there are some times

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we feel like like random death of
like I couldn't I couldn't do anything about

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that, it happened. But I
also think that game is generally pretty good

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about checkpointing you, so it's like
it's all right, yeah, only only

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a few times, and I feel
like, fuck, I have to redo

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this one part that I've already done
multiple times. Give me a break.

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So I'll probably finish that last half
hour up soon if that. Uh.

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And then I just was was kind
of refreshing Steam, hoping that they drop

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the last episode Sam and Max,
which didn't drop, which I guess dropsy

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give me the review code. Yeah, I didn't punch it in. I

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want to play it on my Steam
accounts. Okay, you want to count?

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Yeah, fair enough. I finished
all the other four on there.

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So okay, so yeah, I
want to finish. I'm really curious.

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I'm dying to see how that thing
wraps up. And I understand tell Tale

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might have more business at at packs, so we'll have more more Telltale business

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for you. Yeah. Real weird
teaser image not too long from now,

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but that they put out there.
Oh well, I didn't see it.

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What was it. It's like Tycho
from Pine Arcade Adventures. Uh, strong

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bad Yeah, strong bad Sam.
No, it's Max and like a team

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Fortress two. Dude, all silhouetted. I don't know, fighting game.

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Yeah, look for it. I
don't know. That's weird. That is

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weird. We kind of need if
they turned all those TF two comics into

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an adventure game, because that stuff
is way more exciting than two. So

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I tend to agree. I think
they've for a game that has zero narrative

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to it. All of the comic
stuff they've made for Keyboards two has been

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super entertaining. Maybe valves budding tail
Tale. Yeah, it just means Steam

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or something. Can they handle three
games at once? I don't even I

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don't even know. There's like they
can handle like a couple of games at

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once Plus, like their their labs. They're like weird skunk works operation that's

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working on like puzzle agents and stuff
that didn't wonder if that's got the Green

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ladder or not. Yeah, he's
That was the whole point with that stuff,

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right with Puzzle Agent. Yeah,
there's supposed to be a pilot program.

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It's it's still not on iTunes,
which is kind of weird. Oh

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yeah, they were supposed to put
it out for yeah. Oh oh yeah,

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I was gonna say it's not an
album talking about Oh you mean like

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the app store, Yeah, the
app store? Excuse me? What were

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they gonna put there for iPad?
Yeah, yeah, that would make sense

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to get the frame rate up.
The iPad version of the first Salmon Max

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episode was a way different game,
though hideous. That's true. That's true.

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It's it's it's not quite as as
complex from what I understand. It

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was built for the iPhone first,
but then they just released a PC build

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all of us and it's still not
even up there for just that platform.

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The lead so just a lot of
scanning, the scanning, the background,

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scan in the background. Hope you'll
find U. In the meantime, I

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played death Spank. I played through
some of that and then finally booted it

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up Marvel versus cap Com. It's
just something there and yeah I can still

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crazy. Yeah game you messed up
too? Yeah xpla version of madness.

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Yeah, scared to ship out of
me? That sounds about right. Were

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you like trying to play online?
Like no, I didn't even get that

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far. It's just like got to
like the characters, like people looking what

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what do I choose? Exactly?
Is a schuma gorrass? I forget.

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I was turning this off, like
played like two matches like against crazy people

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play that game? I said that. Then that was about it. Yeah,

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Jeff Gerstman, Hi's going all right, Yeah what you've been playing?

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I wouldn't played Hailer Reach. I
can talk about portions of it, Yeah,

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has it? Do you remember which
part you can talk about? Yeah?

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Yeah, it's uh some single player
stuff and and some multiplayer. I

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have the form here. It's really
crazy, people, it's really crazy because

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it's limited to specific maps, right, So it's like you can it's it's

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two missions from the single player and
then like they you can just talk about

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all the firefight, forge and competitive
multiplayer limited to the following maps, Boardwalk,

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Bone Yard, Countdown, Forge World, Like, I think this might

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be all the maps. It's like
you're limited to all of the multiplayer.

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So yeah, let me ask you
this because we've seen a bunch of it,

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or ask me anything about it.
Okay, what what jumped out at

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you that you could talk about that
as new that we haven't seen because you've

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been exposed to a lot of it. Well, I think that the I

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mean it's in the multiple the well, there's also some single player stuff.

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I think it's that those armor abilities
are in the single player okay, and

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that that kind of changes it.
You can kind of swap those out.

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You'll find different stuff. It's like
the dash and the jet pack stuff like

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that. Yeah, and the armor
lock and drop shield that sort of stuff.

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So you'll be actually using all those
or you or teammates us, so

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you can talk about any of that. I mean that that stuff is in

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these two missions. Okay, So
you find them, right, So you

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start out with sprint by default in
in these missions, and you can find

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pickups to swap them out with you
choose. They are all like power ups

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than like loadouts. Yeah, well, so load doubts and multiplayers in the

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campaign. Yeah, there are really
load outs, and you're just a spartan.

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Ye're spartan. It's just one more
thing that you can equip on your

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dude, just like the two weapons
you can hold in the you know,

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grenades like it's it's it's one at
a time, So it's equipment basically,

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but it's not you know, just
deploy one thing and go. So it's

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interesting because it's you know, sprint. I think ends up being through these

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two missions anyway, uh, the
important one because it speeds up the pace

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of the game so much. And
I feel like, maybe this is just

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me, but I've become accustomed to
being able to run in shooters, so

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like Halo is kind of weird because
you kind of can't. So for them

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to add a sprint is great because
you can like start moving at you know,

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like a modern shooter speed or something
for for short bursts you have to

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let like and stuff. Yeah,
it does a bit of a cool down.

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Does this throw off my typical Halo
strategy of running a dude an empty

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clip and then when I get close
to me and run out of the clip,

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I butt him with the my gun. In fact, it increases the

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of that strategy. You can't shoot
while you're running, but you know,

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so you just kind of run up
on dudes, stop just enough to get

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the gun out there, and I'm
a font of emotion over here. Yeah,

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do your business. And then also
like a Roman candle shooting shit all

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over the shoot and run. So
these missions kind of take place in the

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first first half of the story and
and basically at this point you kind of

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know the covenants there, but you
don't know how many. So it's kind

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of a nighttime sneaking mission where you're
going in and trying to figure out exactly

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what the hell is going on behind
enemy lines. You know, they've started

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landing on reach and doing all this
stuff, and you get out there and

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there there are a lot of them. So the next mission is like this

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full on assault, big old cut
scene of just like a zillion wart hogs

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racing towards you know. Yeah,
it's it's it's like a very impactful moment

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of just like, dude, they're
going like this, they're gonna fight.

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But of course, you know,
the book being what it is, it

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will all be for not right,
Like do they do all that stuff in

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the engine or do they have do
they have like big elaborate like CG cut

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scene. It's all an engine.
In fact, everything has to be an

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engine because you can customize the look
of your dude, and that custom look

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carries over into the single player.
There's some things that are multiplayer only,

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like you can customize like the voice
of your dude for for firefight, so

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you can kind of buy different voices
there, and that's only for firefight.

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Do you see some of that stuff
in the in the missions? H aside

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from in the cut scenes, you
see like the battles going on, like

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are you walking through because you're with
other squad mates for some of this,

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right, do you see like the
war like raging around? Really okay,

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so you're kind of doing your own
thing. There are parts where you're just

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like, oh man, that's you
know, there's a part in this this

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big assault mission where you're kind of
taking down anti aircraft guns and as you

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do, then there's you know,
dropping dropping and dropping bombs, going through

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bombing runs, doing stuff. So
there's one hundred dudes on. But yeah,

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it's not like like scale wise and
like gameplay wise, they made a

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Halo game like it's Bungee is very
good at doing this, they have done

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that. Again, they didn't do
something radically different from them, No,

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not at all. You know,
they talk about the you know, the

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squad mates and all this stuff,
and now you're part of a team and

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all that. And in these two
missions anyway, you're kind of like hanging

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out with one dude and you know
if you leave him behind, it will

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teleport him up when you hit a
check point, just like any other AI

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and any other Halo game. But
it's it's not do you give them any

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orders, like Pad. Now you
are the new Jack on that team,

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so you are just kind of being
you know, you're just kind of doing

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what you're told. What's the what's
the manner of their support? I mean,

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like does a guy snipe but another
guy is the heavy guns? But

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like I mean they specialize. You
know, there's one guy that has a

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gigantic you know, chain gun the
whole time, and another guy who is

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you know, ostensibly the sniper and
stuff. I mean, they've been in

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the marketing, they've really been,
uh, they've all been talking up like

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the team. Here is your team, Yeah, here's all the guys.

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I mean, the story ends up
pairing you up with different members like a

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00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.160
squad at different times, okay,
but it's it doesn't feel like a class

406
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.680
basis for a team. They all
shoot the same weapons, and that is

407
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.960
this is not like it Like for
a while people were like, is this

408
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:37.400
going to be another Republic Command?
Yeah, it's like it is your demo

409
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.200
guy, and you're heavy guy.
It is a Halo game. It is.

410
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:47.640
It is not that game at all. Yeah, as far as I

411
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:49.160
could tell that these two missions,
they certainly did not die. But this

412
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.799
is not like a revive button where
they're like on the ground right now.

413
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.240
There's not like a Gears of War
like like bringing dude, where are you

414
00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.680
okay? Thing like that. Yeah. Was there anything that I don't know

415
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:06.720
that surprised you particularly that you can
want because it does sound like a question

416
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:08.880
thank you. I mean I get
the sense of like it's you know,

417
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:14.960
a well made experience or whatever,
but that, like you said, Bungee

418
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.720
knows how to make a Halo game, right, and so even like the

419
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:19.519
minor differences, it still sounds like, well, this is this is going

420
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.640
to have some familiar beats to it. Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's

421
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.960
a it's a better looking game,
like you know, these these missions in

422
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:32.440
particular, are probably two of the
better looking things that I can talk about

423
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.319
right now. Anyway, Uh,
you know, you've got your kind of

424
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.799
night mission where you're you're doing stuff, You're you're turning invisible. You know,

425
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:42.039
you're you're stealthing up and sniping guys
in this whole kind of nighttime scenario.

426
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.279
And then the second one just has
that kind of larger scope, so

427
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.799
parts of it have kind of a
bigger battle feel, even if you're not

428
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.319
necessarily seeing a ton of stuff on
screen at one time, you see any

429
00:27:52.400 --> 00:28:00.440
odsts drop in. I can't,
I can't. This is of that game,

430
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:02.920
all right, Well this is well, this is this is before the

431
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.279
events of it. Yeah, I
mean I have a I have a pretty

432
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.039
question. Does it feel like a
game that's set before all the other Halo

433
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.880
games in terms of like the technology, like you're talking about going stealth and

434
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:12.680
stuff. I mean, does it
feel like, oh, we just kind

435
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.279
of read conned a bunch of cool
stuff in there because it's a new game,

436
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:22.079
does it? Yeah? You know, it's yeah, I probably shouldn't

437
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:23.720
say too much more about all right, about some of that stuff, but

438
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.599
I mean, you know, it's
it's it's a new games, they have

439
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.119
to come up with new stuff.
But I'm wondering. I think they can

440
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.519
justify that by, you know,
the idea of reach being this like testing

441
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:37.160
facility for spartans or whatever it is. The book probably does a better job

442
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:38.680
explaining that. Well, I don't
want to talk about Halo Reach anymore,

443
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.240
Jeff, I don't talk about Halo
four. Well, it's got all this

444
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.720
multiplayer too. You wanted about the
multiplayer, It's got multiplayer, okay,

445
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.799
and let's talk about Halo four.
Let's talk about Halo after Bungee? All

446
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.519
right? Is that that? I
think it was one of the things that

447
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.400
you had said, say this that
was that was interesting interesting to you.

448
00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.559
Not saying anything about Halo reads necessarily, But what what happens to Halo after

449
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.799
Bungee? Because this is estensibly their
last one, right, yeah, unless

450
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.920
something weird happens, Like this is
them closing the book on Halo and giving

451
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.279
it over to the three four three
team and and saying, all right,

452
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.880
you're gonna go make games for Activision. You guys have fun on the iPhone?

453
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:19.880
Yeah, right, see one,
Windows Mobile seven? Yeah, uh

454
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.920
yeah, exactly, Like where do
you go from here? And I think

455
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:29.079
that you know, I think that
it has to be a I think it

456
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:34.160
should be a dramatic departure from this
stuff, because you know, it's like

457
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.480
I said, you know, the
multiplayer will feel very familiar to fans of

458
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.519
Halo. I mean, it's got
a bunch of great new maps, and

459
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.880
you know, the multiplayers has become
even more customizable than it has been in

460
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:48.319
the past. Firefight I think is
a totally viable mode now, whereas an

461
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.359
ODST without the matchmaking, and you
know, just kind of this endless grind

462
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.519
I felt kind of came up short. You're saying, they're not just packing

463
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.519
in a copy of Halo right now. They've They've interesting Yeah, exactly.

464
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:03.759
They they have built a full new
game, full of full new, cool

465
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:08.200
multiplayer stuff forges a lot more customizable
now too. You have a lot more

466
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:12.240
options for you know, building and
editing maps. This is kind of their

467
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.559
big finale, Like, yeah,
this very much feels like Bungee saying like,

468
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.160
do you do anything right? Here
you go. They'll support it with

469
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.799
DLC, and I wouldn't be surprised
if a huge bulk of it is old

470
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:27.440
Halo maps. It's because you need
to have these so that everyone can just

471
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.079
play one game. We're not gonna
be able to make these once we're gone,

472
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:37.119
So here you go, see you
guys. But yeah, I mean,

473
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:38.559
you know, for their part,
they say they are going to remain

474
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:44.000
dedicated to supporting Reach with DLC for
you know, for some chunk of time,

475
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.440
probably however long it you know,
remains relevant for them to do so,

476
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.279
or you know, until they run
out of ideas. But I have

477
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.119
to imagine that. Yeah, those
Bungee guys, like, regardless of whatever

478
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:57.599
corporate maneuverings that we've seen, like, those guys have been working on Halo

479
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.680
for a long time, and there's
probably you know a yeah, I mean

480
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.720
I was, I was affinity for
that stuff. Yeah. I was talking

481
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.680
to to Lars at E three about
it and and he was, you know,

482
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.720
just saying like I was like excited
too, Yeah, because they were

483
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.960
getting close to finishing the game up
at that point, and it's like,

484
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.680
you know, it's it's gonna be
really weird when we hand off that like

485
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.000
last disc and kind of hand it's
it's it's like, all right, here's

486
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.039
here's our here's Bungee's last Halo game. Yeah, I'm sure it's really scary

487
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:26.680
as well like being like, well, here's this thing that we know has

488
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.480
done really well, and like let's
keep all that up. It starts to

489
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.519
back off. Yeah, let's take
another chance. But I think that's the

490
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.960
best thing for them. I think
that's that's probably a good thing for the

491
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.200
for the franchise moving forward. Even
too, is you know, let's let's

492
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.640
mix things up with Halo. They've
they've put out a lot of Halo games

493
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.079
that are you know, that are
telling this story arc and and fitting this

494
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.880
kind of multiplayer slot in a very
specific way. But you know, there's

495
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.880
only so there's only so much so
far you can go with that, right,

496
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.079
and you know, so what I'm
basically what I'm saying is Halo Wars

497
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:05.079
too. Huh. How about that
all units? Addition, all units are

498
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.680
units? All right? So I'm
gonna say, twenty twelve at the latest

499
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:14.799
third person action game Halo game I
said announced but then canceled, never comes

500
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:21.599
out, not say store shelves,
buy Holiday twelve like playable table, like

501
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:29.359
you buy it like it's in stores
third person the third person, No,

502
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:34.400
that won't happen. If you want
to have a radical departure changed, what

503
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.200
I want, what I think will
actually happen or two pretty different things.

504
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.839
I don't know. I think I
think they absolutely could do that. I

505
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.200
think it's plays the Halo plays,
Yes you Are, You Are, the

506
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:54.200
Halo Quartana puzzle game the Windows Mobile
seven. It's Bejeweled except instead they're Halos

507
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:00.960
talks to you while you play.
It's just things like good job, nice,

508
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:05.240
nice. And while she talks,
she pauses the game, so you

509
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.720
can't play anymore. Yeah, right, exactly. I don't know what they

510
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:13.319
Maybe they will make other Halo games, right like they have. Yeah,

511
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.359
I mean they've building this team of
people, you know, engine programmers and

512
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:22.160
all kinds of stuff, like they
Microsoft is in the Halo business. Something

513
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.000
Farsoft is deeply invested. I mean
they you know, they got a crack

514
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.680
squad of people up there. Yeah, so bred young master David Ellis is

515
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:32.599
up there. I actually know it
was running You and I saw the O'Connor

516
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:37.400
left Bungee to go to the Microsoft
side to stay with Halo. Ryan Peyton's

517
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:43.480
You and I saw that same Space
Combat part e three. We did wells

518
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.480
conference, okay, but we saw
a longer version of that, so we

519
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.599
saw some of that. So maybe
maybe there's a Halo Space Maybe they're just

520
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:54.119
introducing it and there's a Halo Space
combat game coming in the future. I

521
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:59.640
mean it's I think that they have
already, you know, seeing significantly diminished

522
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:04.559
return on continuing making Halo first person
shooters. Well, I like maybe,

523
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.000
but at the same time, I
think they've also seen dimission returns on making

524
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.239
games that ain't got Master Chief in
them. Yeah. So absolutely, if

525
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.599
I were them, the first thing
I would do is Halo and like,

526
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:20.880
here's here's the planet he landed on. Let's keep going, Spartans. They

527
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.199
can rebuild from a genetic level if
there's any part the suit rebuilds them into.

528
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.679
That's why they never die. Yeah, as it turns out, well,

529
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.840
I mean that's not even necessary because
they wrote themselves and out at the

530
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:37.039
end of three I can't remember.
He's just out there floating around. So

531
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.400
uh, you know, they could
they could send Master Chief to some far

532
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:43.880
off, far flung location that has
nothing to do with the existing conflict and

533
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.960
have him work with natives to fight
his way out, and that would be

534
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.840
that would be my ideal, is
they land on prehistoric Earth, you know,

535
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.360
like of you know, in nineteen
eighty six, he's got to go

536
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:58.320
save the whales. We already know
he lands in Fable two because he can

537
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:04.760
get that r I forgot about that. It's post credits, isn't it just

538
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.800
like him, Yeah, drifting in
Spain's canon. So it's it's it's them

539
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:14.000
closing out the story art because that's
he started Halo one in that stasis state,

540
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.400
so uh, you know, and
and they, i mean, I'm

541
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.400
sure they could gin up plenty of
good reasons to kick start again, but

542
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:27.199
they kind of close out like the
Halo thing also of like yeah, yeah,

543
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.320
the Halo threat and the Covenant threat
and all that stuff is kind of

544
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.559
I'd love to see them like the
tumb Rator route of just like this doesn't

545
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:39.159
I mean, we're just calling it
Lara Cross master Chief Adventures Go, and

546
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:42.840
then you know, we're working on
some other Halo thing. Yeah, just

547
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.320
you know, the Continuing Adventures of
Master Chief. I think that's that would

548
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.119
be the most interesting thing possible because
you know, it lets him change a

549
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.679
lot about the world and a lot
about the conflict, you know, because

550
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.880
he's gone it doesn't you know,
they could kind of make that up.

551
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.400
And then on top of that,
you know, it gives them an opportunity

552
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.360
to roll out a new engine,
and you know, if they wanted to

553
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.360
change the pacing of the game,
I can move a lot faster. That

554
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:13.679
would be awesome. I do really
like the idea of master Chief as wandering

555
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:15.760
hero from planet to play, just
kind of. I think it was all

556
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:22.440
this Quake one that we've been playing. Just wanted you can move like any

557
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:29.079
game I'm playing. Do you get
any worried you play any more Quake over

558
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.280
the weekend? Jeff? I did? Yeah, nice. I played a

559
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:37.280
little bit more quick one, but
a lot more Nextius and Zenotic, which

560
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:42.280
is the forked uh. I bet
I bet that starts with an X.

561
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.840
It does do it's not that's not
a z Z, that's an ex Z.

562
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:51.119
Yeah, Zenotic. I'd compile the
source for that to get it to

563
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.679
work. Jesus. They have a
build system out so I can just use

564
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:59.039
get to get all the stuff and
it's kind of automatic. But it's right

565
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.920
now. It's just a lot like
Nextius with some stuff. It's gonna be

566
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.639
interesting because the cryings and three next
Says is going to be a pack.

567
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.559
I'm interested to see what that is
and ask those guys, so are you

568
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.559
happy? With what you have done? What have you done? What have

569
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.719
you done to the open source community? Brought this world to its knees.

570
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.480
I didn't play a ton of it, but I set up my quake two

571
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.239
server. I joined your Quake two
server over the weekend, and no one

572
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:27.960
was on it. And there's a
handful of people that have been rotating through.

573
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.320
Part of the problems that I had
it on CTF for the longest time,

574
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.079
and I think you had it set
to lithium just debt right or death

575
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.639
match. When I joined, I
switched it to that, and then I

576
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.119
also, yeah, I needed to. I am a poor, poor system

577
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.599
administrator to my quake two server and
those people who are trying to use it,

578
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.639
I apologize, but you're just running
out of here. I'm getting better.

579
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.079
I'm getting better. I'm just I'm
tweaking settings more. There's a lot

580
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.079
of things that you could set.
Man, there are a lot of crazy

581
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.719
variables. Yeah, uh for for
a quake two server, especially when you

582
00:37:54.760 --> 00:38:00.840
start dabbling in and you know weird
weird add ons like the the lithium stuff.

583
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:06.760
Yea, then it just turns quake
two into a message board. That's

584
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:10.760
how weird? Is that lineage?
Very very weird, like we're making Quake

585
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:15.320
and Quake two mods and now we're
making message boards and now we that's all

586
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.079
we do. Especially weird because we
know some of those people. Yeah,

587
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:22.280
that's also also I didn't realize that
I knew those people before. I didn't

588
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.239
realize those people were those people.
I just remember all the time we spent

589
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.199
changing off of the Lithium message board
software because it was too messed up to

590
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.920
keep using. Yep, it's because
they were too busy playing Quake all but

591
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.639
yeah, I installed and started running
my my Quake two service. After Quake,

592
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:38.840
I was like, I was like, well, for there's no throw

593
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:44.320
down, the next logical stake is, next logical step is Quake two O.

594
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.000
The next logical steps quick three.
But we're gonna we're gonna take a

595
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.400
skip on that for this week.
We're gonna be playing m K two and

596
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:59.159
UMK three on the PlayStation Network and
Xbox Li Ricade respectively, respectively. But

597
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.199
it was after looking at and playing
and looking at all of that Quake one,

598
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.719
it was super weird to go and
check out Quake two because I again

599
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.679
hadn't seen that and probably way longer
than I had seen anything Quake one related.

600
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:16.320
It's such a strange sequel, like
just in terms of how different it

601
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:21.119
looks and feels in a lot of
pretty significant ways. It looks like a

602
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.800
real game. It ages, it
aged way worse than Quake one. Yeah,

603
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:30.199
it's like that default blaster. It's
even the shotgun. It's like too

604
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.360
many shots to kill guys. Like
the weapons just don't feel right. It's

605
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:36.400
just I don't know. There's some
stuff about it that I really like.

606
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:38.760
The hyperblaster I think is a terrific
I think there are some great weapon designs

607
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.559
as far as like, I think
it's most of it's fine. And multiplayer,

608
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.079
I just think I played a couple
of single player levels and just went

609
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:50.440
the ai AI and the players glaringly
because like they will like duck when you're

610
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.840
shooting at their feet, you know, just because they're programmed to duck at

611
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.280
intervals or whatever. Yeah, And
I don't know what the actual logic.

612
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.440
I didn't. I did not touch
any of the single player. I went

613
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.840
straight into mold. But it's just
it's rough. It's it's just strange because

614
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.599
of how like hard and blocky,
Like there's a lot there's a lot more

615
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.920
that's angular about Quake two, and
for me, it's a look that's also

616
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:15.360
more defined by that era of three
D acceleration. Like Quake is all for

617
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.599
me, is all about like hard
textures and everything looking super flat and super

618
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.000
square. But by the time I
got to Quake two, it is like,

619
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.599
okay, my my voodoo cards going
on. So I've got a lot

620
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:28.000
more interpolated textures. So it's a
lot more light, yeah, a lot

621
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.960
more color lighting. And I mean
that's what I was. That's all I

622
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.960
remember about Quake two. But in
that video, is it just it still

623
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.079
looks like that, right, And
in my head it looks awesome. But

624
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.079
I'm sure dropping down into that sewer
at the beginning of the third map and

625
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:45.719
your gun turn blue, but like
shire gun and I traveled with it,

626
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:49.480
well, I mean, you know, Quake head like mobile light sources,

627
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:54.360
but they were not colored. I
don't know. The calling people into it

628
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:57.599
looks like a bad and sixty four
game right now. It looks like it

629
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.360
looks like a toy. Yeah it, but but I don't know. I

630
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.559
think some of the like I think
that it is not a great rocket launcher,

631
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:07.760
but I think it's awful. I
think it's a great looking rocket launcher.

632
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:12.760
I think that the design totally looks
it looks like something that could fire

633
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.320
rockets, as opposed to the Quake
one rocketlaucher that looks like it's a magic

634
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.320
wand it's a magic fucking wand that
summons rockets. Nothing. None of the

635
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.960
weapons in Quake one look like weapons. They look like Quake one weapons.

636
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:29.360
The stuff in Quake two I believe
in the like, yeah, this is

637
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.480
this would work as a gun.
This is why this is doing like making

638
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:37.519
this motion and doing this thing,
and here is the results. Although the

639
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.079
Quake one weapons all look like they
were forged by like some dark elder god

640
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:44.519
or something like, yeah, be
on them. Even when it's right still

641
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:49.920
looks It's like, why is that
this double barrel shotgun just looks like like

642
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.880
I'm eight feet away from the barrels, which also it just looks like a

643
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:59.159
block of iron. Yeah. I
always thought it was like super snazzy in

644
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:00.960
high tech that the web and some
Quick two have the offset. Yeah,

645
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:04.559
like they came from the side of
the strand instead of right at the bottom.

646
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:06.199
That was one of the things that
jumped out of me from playing a

647
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.239
Quake one isn't like man just no
off, no bob, no offset.

648
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:15.400
It was crazy at the time,
so futuristic. Yeah, actually you didn't

649
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.679
douke three d ha offset from the
weapons. Pretty sure it did, don't

650
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:21.320
recall, I think it did.
They were not the first to do that.

651
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:30.760
Yeah, anything else post Reach,
post quake? H No Bright Shoemaker

652
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:34.639
hit me with the hotness I play
some games? Would you play? U?

653
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.840
Shall we start with Metroid other?
M, let's start with Metroid Other

654
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.079
Just that just came out on Sunday. You ever liked it? I liked

655
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:45.639
it. Yeah, after a kind
of shaky first impression. Yeah, how

656
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:50.159
so it got a lot better.
You and I saw that for the first

657
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:53.480
time together. Yeah, at Nintendo
a few weeks back, three weeks back,

658
00:42:54.079 --> 00:43:00.480
close to a month, close to
a month. Okay, the controls

659
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.960
takes them getting used to Now,
why is that some of our fears about

660
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.679
using a dpad and a three D
space? Uh yeah, came to bear.

661
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:08.920
Yeah, I mean some of that
stuff was born out by the game.

662
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.800
But I don't know if you get
used to it pretty quick or I

663
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.400
did it anyway, now watching you
play, like get deeper into it.

664
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.239
During the review process, I noticed
that there was a lot more kind of

665
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:22.679
the the you know pseudo two D
where it's it looks like it's a three

666
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.679
D environment, but there is strictly
a two D path that you traveled.

667
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.039
There is there a lot of that. There's a good amount of that stuff.

668
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:30.800
And yeah, I mean there's literally
like these invisible tracks laid on the

669
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.639
floor where you know, she's running
through a curved hallway, but all you're

670
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.239
doing is holding right right, and
she follows the curvature without you having like

671
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:43.960
zigzag on the dpad. So that's
nice. That stuff is nice at a

672
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:45.280
certain point. It's kind of makes
all like the three D space just like

673
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:51.920
just for pretty in those instances.
Yeah, but those are those are these

674
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:53.760
sort of in between sequences. Those
are like what you do in between the

675
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:59.559
big kind of set piece like scripted
monsters like jumping on the walls at you,

676
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:01.760
or like a big kind of bat
room and then you guide and esku.

677
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:05.800
Yeah, like three D like combat
spaces where guys just come at you

678
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.199
from all sides. That stuff was
fine after you know, a couple of

679
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:12.760
hours. Basically, I was used
to it like it's got the it's got

680
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.960
the auto dodge, which seems to
be a very man. What a divisive

681
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.920
game, just like top to bottom, Like the review scores are all over

682
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.639
the place, like people are going
ape shit on message boards. There are

683
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.960
cries of sexism from some quarters.
I mean, it's just space is high

684
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.920
when it comes to Metroid stuff.
It's true, It's definitely true. And

685
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:35.239
this is a weird offshoot for them. I'm still not quite sure I grasp

686
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.440
all of it. But but yeah, the like the auto dodging stuff,

687
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.320
a lot of people have just been
like, oh man, that just also

688
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:42.599
it plays the game for you,
right, I mean it's like that stuff

689
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.280
is necessary right because of the is
a poor name for it or something,

690
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:50.119
Uh, it's accurate, sounds like. That's the part that gets me though,

691
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.039
Like it's necessary because of the deep
It was like, well the wh

692
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:58.280
Yeah, I don't know that that
should be in there as like I was

693
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.320
saying, we were doing the quick
look like as the operation mode and then

694
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:05.079
give people like a real way to
control it, I guess, but it's

695
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.639
just yeah, but there are ways
you can there are ways you can use

696
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:09.679
it to your advantage because if you
if you hit the shoot button at the

697
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:14.679
right time as you dodge, you
get a full beam charge immediately. So

698
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.199
if you're dodging and like timing that
button press properly, I'm saying take out

699
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:21.320
the dodge. I'm saying make it
more difficult to do, and I guess

700
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.000
rewarding you know, like a problem
with it. You can obviously still get

701
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:27.280
hit, right, Yeah, I
mean, let me put it this way.

702
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.800
The combat is plenty challenging even with
that all right, Like it's there's

703
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.880
still especially when you're having to go
to first person often to do things like

704
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.280
it feels like a pretty good balance
back and forth, I think, but

705
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:39.519
it's you know, it's it's a
metroid game. Still, like you,

706
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:43.440
I feel like I must have played
like the I mean, I just yeah

707
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.079
from here, and you say that
it had a rocky start. I think

708
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.719
I played right up until yeah,
where you just said it started getting better.

709
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.039
Told me where you left off.
I was like the one mode that

710
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.760
I played something like months ago.
Yeah, like ended like literally right before

711
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.159
you say, oh, it gets
way better after that's right about the part

712
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.400
where really started. I left that
that emos going like, what the fuck

713
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:05.599
is this game? I don't even
game tell do you think Team Ninja will

714
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.519
be invited back to the Metroid party. Uh. I guess it really comes

715
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:13.559
out of sales, right, I
mean it's the ultimate determining factor, I

716
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.920
guess. But like I always got
the sense that Metroid doesn't really traffic in

717
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.079
the same business outside of the US, right, Yeah, that was that

718
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.199
was part of it, is it
was much bigger than the US. That

719
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:28.119
like that was my understanding that that's
why like retro was given. Yeah,

720
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.639
so the prime stuff to begin with. It's kind of weird that they would

721
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:35.400
backpedal to a Japanese developer. Then
if I agree, if they went with

722
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.960
a Western developer and it did Gangbusters
chair got Bob Man, what are they

723
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:45.039
canna do? Yeah? Yeah,
has the narrative stuff and as the it's

724
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:50.280
always and again like upfront, pretty
poor impression, like just a lot of

725
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.239
kind of sort of nonsense call cut
scenes and like pretty flat voice acting and

726
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:59.480
some she's not great. I don't
like that what this game does to her

727
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:06.239
character. That's that's kind of where
the accusations of sexism. Uh wait,

728
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:15.119
accusations of sexism are coming towards Team
nawards whatever. Crazy. Yeah, I'm

729
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:16.960
saying, like not sexism towards like
reviewers or something. No, no,

730
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:21.599
no, no, no, talking
about the game zone. Okay, I've

731
00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:25.840
never seen those guys, Yeah,
we get it. I don't. I

732
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.599
just figured that all of the that
had been weeded out when team didn't just

733
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.559
split up. I don't think that
was left or something that was all coming

734
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.960
from. Apparently that's just inherent.
That's just that you need picture. I'm

735
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:44.159
giving like a press cut. It's
part of our DNA. I just love

736
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:49.920
bitches, man. I've never seen
those guys do like narrative and it kind

737
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:54.840
of like cohesive, like compelling way, like even even the all the Ninja

738
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.920
guide and stuff, that's all super
goofy and crazy, right, like something

739
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:07.880
fucking messed up just happened. Go
and fight demons now. Hopefully that's in

740
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:13.079
the other end, absolutely top to
bottom. Yeah, I mean she does.

741
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:15.960
She does like metroids. It's got
boobs on it. Well, yeah,

742
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:21.039
she's see her sextra and you see
her in the in that spandex body

743
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.800
suit. Yeah, she looks disproportionate
like a Team Ninja character would. But

744
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:29.239
I think people's problems are coming more
from or at least the you know,

745
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:34.199
the review of referencing, Like the
problems come more in her character. What

746
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.719
they do to her character, you
know, like they they ascribe like a

747
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.559
frailty to her psyche in some situations
that just doesn't make sense. For like,

748
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:44.840
you know, this is like a
hard ast nails bounty hunter who's like

749
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.679
cleared entire planets full of monsters,
you know, but all of a sudden,

750
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:51.159
she's like terrified of she's got all
these like euroses that she's trying to

751
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:52.639
work through or whatever. Like it
doesn't make a lot of sense, feels

752
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.239
very out of place. But it's
been through a lot, man. Yeah,

753
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.119
But but also she hadn't been through
a ton of stuff at that point.

754
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.480
It's you know, this is a
little earlier on early you know,

755
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.280
early point midpoint career. I think
this is towards the end. Actually,

756
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:14.559
I think this is before what you
ever read my fan fiction we have.

757
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.880
She keeps on gaining all this stuff
and then loses it at the beginning of

758
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:21.519
every new adventure, and then she
collects it all again and loses it.

759
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.599
To mess with your head, man, the cycle of law, Why don't

760
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.079
even do it? Why don't even
do it? Sure? And all of

761
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.679
the creatures she had to murder to
get that stuff at the first place,

762
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:32.679
and then it all goes and she
has that stuff in this guy. You

763
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:37.000
know, I don't know. I
think I think it's I haven't seen the

764
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:39.480
reviewing question that you were referencing here, but I don't know. I feel

765
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:45.239
like it's G four's right, Okay, Yeah, that's the sexism one.

766
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.639
I mean, it's it's a valid
complaint. It's a matter of you know,

767
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.480
taste, It's entirely subjective. But
you know, I guess it's when

768
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.079
you start getting conversation like, well, do you want like character depth or

769
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:59.719
do you want like you can't just
throw the sexism claim out there like that,

770
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.280
And I don't know, it just
seems it seems like wanting it both

771
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:07.639
ways, but right, because otherwise
she's just a Yeah. It's like otherwise,

772
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.599
make sure a woman, you just
give her all these male characteristics and

773
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:15.119
then there's nothing feminine about her.
It's like, well, I think that's

774
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:19.639
even worse. You give Team Ninja
fucking break. I mean also, yeah,

775
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.840
well, like expecting Team Ninja to
be able to handle any kind of

776
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:28.519
emotional depth I think is asking a
lot so and you know, you could

777
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:32.400
argue it's also not a reasonable expectation
for the Metroid series. Maybe well,

778
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.119
I don't know that. That's only
because they haven't really gone super crazy on

779
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.840
story stuff up until this point,
you know, so this was their shot

780
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:44.920
to make like make it good,
and it sounds like parts of it maybe

781
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.360
not the stuff they do outside of
trying to develop her as a character really

782
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.199
cool, like the like what they
add to scenario and stuff. Yeah,

783
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.800
I mean what they add to like
the Metroid mythology or whatever, you know,

784
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.800
like the kind of greater universe and
all the stuff that was going on

785
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:01.440
back in the first game, and
then that kind of thing like that.

786
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:05.079
That stuff is neat if you're in
the Metroid, it's it's pretty sad.

787
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:12.159
Then they pronounced its zevis zebis what
I always said, zebus, not ZEBs.

788
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.360
Yeah, some guy even said zbs. Some guy in the comments said

789
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:20.559
ZEBs. I was shocked. I
want to say, I think it was

790
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:24.159
probably what I heard they say.
Sam SAMs Aaron is how they say in

791
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:28.639
the game. I always that was
Iran or Iran or whatever. I don't

792
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:37.119
know. Man made up the controversy. I don't know. It's it's a

793
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:38.480
weird, devisive game. A lot
of people will like it, a lot

794
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:43.920
of people will not it's I will
simply just not play it, all right.

795
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.760
That's that's nothing, nothing to do
with the brelative quality of that game

796
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:52.360
one where that's a valid course of
action. Uh So I can sit on

797
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:57.360
my coffee table forever. That's the
most effective way to not play games.

798
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:00.719
Is anybody in this room besides me
to play it? I'll probably play to

799
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.400
play it. Yeah, I got
it my bag. If you want to

800
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.360
play it? Sure? Is that
the other M? It's the other other?

801
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.159
Okay, yeah, you got that
other M? Word is it?

802
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:13.559
Does the other M make sense once
you beat the game? Is there?

803
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:17.559
Yeah? Kind of yes, there
are there, certainly are there even more

804
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:21.559
after the end of this game,
you could Marvin could do? Is you

805
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.039
you could interpret it more than one
way? I mean, whatever, it's

806
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:29.599
a name. No, it wasn't
me, it was mel other always gets

807
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:34.360
you too mixed up. I appreciated
it when Metroid like I appreciated it as

808
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:38.199
a Metroid game before anything else really, And that's that's what I liked about

809
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:42.320
it the most, Like the that's
that's cool that that can even be said

810
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.119
about that game? Yes, yeah, because from what I played, that

811
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.920
seemed like the part it was not
going to Oh, it totally cool.

812
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:52.639
How long is it about? M
I had like nine and a half hours

813
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.920
on the clock when I finished it
up. Ten Maybe do you think you

814
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.679
could speed run it in like a
half hour? Mmm? Some of those

815
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:02.719
better So she's not naked if you
do awesome. I really you know,

816
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.039
I'm not a big Metroid fan one
way or the other, but I really

817
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.960
really dislike how often this zero suit
ship has started coming up over the past

818
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:15.280
few years. Like I I think
Nintendo, more than anything that Team Ninja

819
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:20.199
could have done with this game,
is to blame for the what what has

820
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:22.960
happened to the Sama's character? Whatever? Man, she's got a body,

821
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:27.480
she can use it. I don't
know. It's it's it's like, here's

822
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.199
a character that has always just been
like, yes, she is a woman,

823
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:34.639
but that is not her defining characteristic, And all of a sudden,

824
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:37.320
it's like she's just jumped around in
this skin tight sexy suit all the time.

825
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.440
It's like, it's not it's not
the sammas. I know solve that

826
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:46.960
problem by not playing Smash Brothers out
there. And it's and it's and it's

827
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:52.519
becoming like the dominance become the like
default samas for some people, you know.

828
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:54.079
Yeah, it's just and I don't
know that bums me out. In

829
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:59.480
this game, when you die,
the robotic suit or whatever like evaporates from

830
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:01.599
you, and she's lying there in
the in the in the cat suit.

831
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:15.360
Basically you almost were there, Champagne, I'm not like sexy writhing Yeah a

832
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:20.280
cat Yes, that's it. Can
you do that again for me? Thank

833
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:23.920
you? Save that for later,
Bright Maker. Anything else that you would

834
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:30.440
care to talk about sees rising to
you? Case zero hell Yeah, dude,

835
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:35.559
drill bucket, Dude, drill bucket. I suddenly a really bad porno

836
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:38.639
mag It's a really good I'll lend
you a copy of drill Bucket. Yes,

837
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:50.719
of other drill bucket shrownd uh.
Sam has showed me your drill bucket.

838
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:53.880
I showed her my other m.
Dude, that girl's just a drill

839
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:59.519
bucket. You don't want none of
that shaking. I'm shaking my head.

840
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.679
Tell me about your drill buckets fault. You set that up. I set

841
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:10.880
that up. Alogized Dead Rising two
K zero zero Yeah, the downloadable thing.

842
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.039
Yeah, this sounds maybe coming out
this week, and I'm pretty sure

843
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:16.719
it's coming up. Yeah, they
havenfirmed it is coming out in the US.

844
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:21.119
It is coming out almost almost out
by the time you hear this,

845
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:24.079
five bucks. Did they give a
time? I would think it would be

846
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:28.039
actually out by the time you hear
this. Well, I mean it's next

847
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.679
bla game. Those go up like
super early Wednesday morning, except that they

848
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:35.239
said Tuesday for this. Yeah,
but whatever, it could be Tuesday night

849
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.320
late whatever. You can watch our
quick look you could, that's all.

850
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:44.559
That's not not so quick. Look, I'm impressed that you were able to

851
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.079
spend that much time with There's a
lot and not finish it. And not

852
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:50.719
finish it, Yeah, we were
going out of the story. Were screwing

853
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.639
off there? How many put drill
bucket on dude ted and then try and

854
00:55:55.719 --> 00:56:00.880
combine the shotgun with everything. That
sounds ridiculous hyperbole, but I suddenly could

855
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:06.960
not be more excited for Dead Rising
to you. I dude, they did

856
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.639
exactly what they must have set out
to do with this thing. Because before

857
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:13.599
I played that so I started playing
it this morning, I forgot that that

858
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:15.320
game is even coming out this month, And now that I played through it,

859
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.760
I'm just like, dude, give
me that game. It's so an

860
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:22.239
effective piece of marketing. Absolutely,
five Bucks of the progress rolls over into

861
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:30.079
the real game. Yeah yeah,
yeah, what a pakee pake quel Yeah

862
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.039
yeah, yeah good. Then you
have to fire Drew now no, it

863
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:38.719
was good. Sorry, this is
now my boss. You can deal with

864
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:44.440
all this shit now I'm done.
It was weird starting to back up because

865
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:49.039
it's been right about what four years
since that first game, Like that's probably

866
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.679
at least for me, that was
enough time to kind of forget what made

867
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:53.559
a Dead Rising game. And then
I got out. I got in there

868
00:56:53.559 --> 00:57:00.960
and it was like Pepe, yeah, sure that it was, you know

869
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:06.519
it was it was like a quasi
real time clock. It was like having

870
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:07.920
a deadline to do all this stuff. It was being able to start the

871
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:12.400
game over with a higher level.
So even even in case zero, all

872
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:16.119
of those all it was saving in
bathrooms concepts like everything. It's zombies.

873
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:22.760
Oh yeah, right, it's weird. It's weird. You're finding professional wrestlers

874
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:24.960
at this time, which is well, I didn't really appreciate them. Infected.

875
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:29.400
We don't like to say, is
the Z word around here? The

876
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:40.000
mean zbs the other So this is
this is uh, like hours or days

877
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:45.440
prior to the events of We'll get
a load of this right, if one,

878
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.679
If one Brad Nicholson is to be
believed, it's actually three years before

879
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.360
the forthcoming retail disc Brad Nicholson,
Yeah, who told you that? Wikipedia

880
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:59.559
and our giant bomb Wickie at least
one of those is trustworthy. It's weird

881
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:00.800
though, because is playing it.
It seems like, I mean it has

882
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:05.599
the appearance of taking place like,
yeah, hours or maybe a day before,

883
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:07.519
because like when he first rolls up
in the truck, he's got like

884
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:12.039
the suit, he's not wearing the
suit. What is the suit? He

885
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:16.400
doesn't have the jacket, doesn't have
the jack similar colors as wear shirt.

886
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:22.079
Yeah, okay, so obviously three
years the rings three years, that shirt

887
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:25.039
grows into a jacket. Yeah,
so he's wearing like a ball jersey and

888
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:28.880
jeans or yeah. But the point
is, I mean, the game is

889
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.920
set in Vegas, and this takes
place city actual Vegas. Oh there's all

890
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:37.559
that bullshit with the city of Las
Vegas or whatever, although they do say

891
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:42.199
at can't I can't wait to play
that game just to figure out how comes.

892
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:46.760
Sometimes I've heard Las Vegas mentioned in
Dead Rising to swear everything says fortunes

893
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:51.599
like in the game. Yeah,
like mentioning. Actually in case here is

894
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:54.719
specifically they're talking about last I would
swear the words Las Vegas are spoken in

895
00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:59.199
that game. I swear I heard
that. You're absolutely correct, which makes

896
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:01.440
all of the fortunes of the stuff
that much more. Maybe it's just like

897
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:05.760
outside of Vegas. I mean,
this is you know, it wouldn't be

898
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:09.119
unheard of for them to have Vegas
and then also create Vegas somewhere else in

899
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:14.000
the two. But you're right outside
the city limb. Yeah, you're in

900
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:16.880
this like tiny little town of Still
Creeks, population like seven fifty or something,

901
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:24.920
by any little desert town fifty three
or whatever. Plus two. What's

902
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:28.760
your daughter? The premises you roll
up in your truck. You've got your

903
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:31.199
like little four year old daughter.
She is infected. You got to keep

904
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:35.280
feeding her zombire x to keep her
from turning into a little girl zombie.

905
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:37.880
But it should be a first because
there aren't nough kids zombies any of this.

906
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:40.079
I don't know if they can get
away with it, Like it seems

907
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:44.199
not there yet. It seems like
the logical conclusion for this thing. But

908
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:47.039
can can What do you think I
can't? I think if you let that

909
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:52.480
happen you lose, like let her
become a zombie the mission objective. The

910
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.800
mission objective says, if you don't
get back to her with a zombirex,

911
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:58.320
she'll die. It doesn't say she'll
turn into a zombie. It just says

912
00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:00.920
she will die. Maybe maybe kids
can't turn into zombies in this universe.

913
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:06.639
I don't know, but I haven't
been following this whole all the weird viral

914
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:08.679
zombirex stuff they've been coming up with
too. I just think you can,

915
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:12.159
as a developer, be shooting little
kids. Oh well, that's it.

916
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.519
That's I mean, those are two
different questions of whether you can have kids

917
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:19.840
zombies and whether you can murder kids
zombies. Sure, here's a better question.

918
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:24.199
Ken zombies love Do we know that? That's absolutely They love to gamble.

919
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:28.360
They actually do. Yeah, So, I mean it's it's just like

920
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:30.159
it's just like the Vegas Airport,
where like everywhere you go there are slot

921
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:34.199
machines, Like there are slot machines
in the lobby of the movie theater in

922
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.840
this town. Zombies love slot machines
like they actually will wander out, like

923
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:40.280
when they see a slot machine they
go over and play it instead of trying

924
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:43.480
to kill you. It's a nice
touch. It's pretty funny, brand Niolson.

925
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:45.639
So maybe Chuck and you know,
the daughter, even though she's a

926
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:49.440
zombie, they can still like each
other, right, I mean, if

927
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.239
she can love him, then they
have a relationship. Maybe, right,

928
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.840
maybe can go out and help her
get brains. Yeah, you know,

929
01:00:55.880 --> 01:01:00.639
I'd imagine much easier to get ahold
of than zombrex. Yeah. Problem,

930
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:02.800
it's probably a lot easier to get
a hold of if you're not already a

931
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:06.840
zombie. And maybe she could be
civil about it, like Louie and uh

932
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.599
that vampire stuff by an Rice.
Remember Louie only ate rats, right,

933
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:14.360
so maybe maybe she can just eat
raccoons or something like nobody likes Yeah,

934
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.599
nobody likes us anyway, Right,
This seems like a really antilimactic direction to

935
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:22.920
take, like zombies age, would
she eventually grow up to be an adult

936
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:27.239
zombie? Or I want to borrow
the car? And yeah, teen issues.

937
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:29.320
I don't know. I think.
I think when you start poking at

938
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:35.760
zombies, much like time travel,
if you start meddling with the like,

939
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.599
don't don't worry about these questions.
Oh wait, this is all stupid.

940
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:43.079
Zombies are bad. You should shoot
them, don't worry about if all their

941
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:46.599
people wants, or hit them in
the head with the baseball back covered nails,

942
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:52.039
or drop a bucket full of drills
on their heads. I don't know.

943
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.719
I love the drill bucket. So
that was one of my favorite things

944
01:01:55.760 --> 01:02:00.360
I've seen in that game. That's
pretty good. Basically like it is dead

945
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:06.239
rising mechanically top to bottom, like
all the same ship, except they've traded

946
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:09.760
the photo mechanic for the item combining
stuff and out of combining stuff is hilarious,

947
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:14.679
really good they've gotten it seems like
they've gotten some terrific mileage. There's

948
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:20.400
probably what would you say, ten
items and this is zero. There's probably

949
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:22.960
like I've seen ten items or so
that can be combined, and there's only

950
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.519
eight combinations that you can make in
this game. I keep wanting to call

951
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:30.239
it a demo, but it's not. It's so not a demo. So

952
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:31.960
how much time would you say you've
you've sunk into that so far? And

953
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:36.960
have you started over totally like just
overall in the game. Have you gone

954
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:38.519
through like the story mission? I
haven't finished at all because I got to

955
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:44.119
level two and I was like,
oh, we're fun if I started over

956
01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:45.599
with a higher level, so I
did, and then I hit level three

957
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:50.079
and I did the same thing.
So I'm actually saved at the very first

958
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:53.639
save point because I just keep starting
over. Nice because you take your experience.

959
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:58.440
Take everything you take, even like
the stupid clothes like I'm wearing overalls,

960
01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:00.480
the cowboy hat. Rights. You
take the cards with you that you

961
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.079
find. Yeah, so it's a
weird mechanic with the item combining stuff.

962
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:07.400
If you figure out an item combination
before you find the card for it,

963
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.639
you get a scratch card, which
is basically good for nothing, But if

964
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:15.119
you find the combo card for it, you get like a bonus when you

965
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:17.599
use that item, a pp bonus. Well, sometimes I think, didn't

966
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:20.760
you say you could also get like
a damage bonus. I think it depends

967
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:22.199
on it. It depends on the
card. I think it depends on the

968
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.480
item. But like you, there
are strong attacks that you can only do

969
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:29.519
if you have the card right,
right, right, So it almost feels

970
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:32.159
a little backwards to me because should
be rewarded for right. It's almost like

971
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:36.719
they should reward you for figuring out
the combination before you find the card.

972
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:38.840
But it's not really a matter of
figuring it out like it is for you

973
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:45.199
right now. But that's easy fact. And if you were going to,

974
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.400
you know, then reward people for
using a fact, then I mean,

975
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:50.719
I get I get your point,
but I see why they would want to

976
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:52.480
do it that way. Some of
some of the combinations are very esoteric though,

977
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:55.920
I mean drills and buckets, like, yeah, I don't know unless

978
01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.639
you wouldn't you wouldn't just clue into
that, like baseball that nails, Sure

979
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:03.039
it's itself, but or nails and
propane tank. Yeah, okay, so

980
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:06.159
all right, I'll give you that
one. Sure. No, I mean

981
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:10.760
I kind of assumed there was such
a limited list of items that each one

982
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:14.719
would only be used once in this
game. No, but then yeah,

983
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:20.559
nails and propane tank that and that
makes an Yeah, that's what it's called.

984
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:24.880
I just like that's a description on
the scratch card. It's called I

985
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:30.400
E ED. I'm pretty excited about
rising. I'm really excited about it this

986
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:35.559
week zero forty three minutes. I
can't think of a person who shouldn't just

987
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:42.119
get that once you hated the first
Yeah, sure, so I guess the

988
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:44.800
demo for it must just be timed, right, I don't know, it's

989
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.960
such a it's weird because you can't
save from the demo. I said,

990
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:50.679
just run as long as you can, I guess, or get achievements.

991
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:56.079
It's not timed. We didn't look
like it was weird, No, but

992
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:59.440
I mean looks like the story you
could finish in like ninety minutes. But

993
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:02.039
there's all these optional survivors to get. There's all the outfits you can do,

994
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:11.400
all item combinations. Their stuff fantastic. I'm pretty pretty, pretty uniformly

995
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:15.320
impressed with what I've seen in this
products. It's good. Good on them

996
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:17.199
for making it five bucks and making
it easy to get a hold of them.

997
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:20.679
Yeah, like it seems if it
is at all representative of the full

998
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:24.880
product of Dead Rising two, that's
going to be like a pretty gas game.

999
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.679
Yeah. I mean, you tell
me if I'm inflating the controversy in

1000
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:30.079
my mind over this. I don't
know if there's anybody out there crying,

1001
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.599
like paid demo or not. You
know, probably somewhere, But I think

1002
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:38.519
this is probably one of those cases
where it best justifies itself. Yeah.

1003
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.599
I could have seen this being kind
of like a prolog chapter in the game

1004
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:45.199
or something, but not after they've
I can see it have been like,

1005
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.199
oh, this is a small town
that you drive through and you see some

1006
01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:48.719
of the stuff, and you're here
for a little bit, and this is

1007
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:51.119
tutorial and then you go. I
think it would have fell out of place,

1008
01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:55.360
but not having played the full game, seems I doubt it would be

1009
01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:59.320
as fleshed out as they have since
made it. I think it justifies it's

1010
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:02.920
five it seems like at least so
it justifies five bucks several times over you

1011
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:06.719
get to level five and that's caps
a level five, but you can carry

1012
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:11.480
that over into the full game.
That's a that's a nice bonus five bucks.

1013
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:14.519
Like just it's totally worth it.
Drop a drill bucket, good on

1014
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:19.480
the buckets. So gnarly, so
weird. Although I think my favorite part,

1015
01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:23.800
Brad, of watching you play the
demo was when I picked up the

1016
01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:28.360
gumball machine and I declared that I
said, I was I think I said

1017
01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:30.000
that I really want I said,
is it wrong of me? Is it

1018
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:33.599
too much of me to ask that
when you hit a zombie with this gumball

1019
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:36.400
machine, that gumballs go spring everywhere? And absolutely as I was saying,

1020
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:40.280
like, oh, that's probably technically
asking, and then you hit a zombie

1021
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:43.400
with it and gumballs and spring everywhere. But then did they start slipping on

1022
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:45.440
the gumball? They didn't know,
they didn't and then the gumballs disappeared?

1023
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:50.239
Are you sure that was then?
My next hope would have would have really

1024
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:54.519
liked cued up in that quick look
again, that's have sworn they were doing

1025
01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:57.159
a little. The gumball is very
quickly fade away. I don't think they

1026
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.079
actually because they slip on vomits and
stuff like that. So the animation,

1027
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:04.199
yeah, oh man, they should
have done that over you gotta wait for

1028
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:12.519
the four version for slipping's let's see. I would like to talk a little

1029
01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:17.199
bit about Canaan Lynch to multiplayer Jeff. Yeah, I played some some Fragile

1030
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:23.480
Alliance this weekend and I came that's
pretty neat. Yeah, it's it's a

1031
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:27.079
cool idea. I had a fair
amount. I think some of the things

1032
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:30.440
that you said about it are are
pretty spot on about the length of the

1033
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:34.880
levels eventually becoming an issue because it's
like four minutes on the outside of how

1034
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:38.440
long these things are. But I
was also thinking, like, at the

1035
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.199
same time, if you were in
one of those maps, and it were

1036
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:45.840
to take a lot longer than that
and you died early on, like the

1037
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:47.880
chances of you hanging out and waiting
for the next round would probably be pretty

1038
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:53.760
Yeah, round to be fast.
I think it's a situation where they needed

1039
01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:59.480
to vary up like enemy placement and
some other things like that. That didn't

1040
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:01.360
bother me so much, just because
like, Okay, that was kind of

1041
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:04.960
if you had played it for another
day or so, you would be like,

1042
01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:09.519
oh yeah, I was just kind
of finding that the constant like that

1043
01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:13.000
was the constant, but it was
how the players I was playing with would

1044
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:16.800
behave that kind of made those scenarios
interesting. Yeah, you know who's going

1045
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:20.119
to wig out on us or you
know who's actually going to be dependable?

1046
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:24.560
Are people going to run? Because
there's kind of multiple routes in most of

1047
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.359
those levels, it seems like you
can kind of run when you first approach.

1048
01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:30.439
It's like, okay, wanting to
provide support from up here or I'm

1049
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:34.119
gonna you know, run straight through
on the ground and here. But yeah,

1050
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:40.319
a good weekend. I definitely not
see playing that for I think Undercover

1051
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:43.439
Cop mode it is probably the best
thing that game I was going for it

1052
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:45.720
because in that mode, you know
someone's gonna have to turn on you.

1053
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:51.239
But horrible edge the entire time I
had never like fragile alliance is the regular

1054
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:56.800
mode I think gets kind of frustrating
because there are people that just like turn

1055
01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:00.399
on you at like dumb times for
them to do. So, it's like,

1056
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.159
oh, so while a cop is
shooting at you and everyone is standing

1057
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.760
right around you, this is when
you decided to shoot a player and then

1058
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:12.039
immediately die. So now I am
sitting out this round and so are you?

1059
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:15.279
Like? Thanks, Hey, I
guess I didn't run into too much

1060
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.319
of that. Yeah, I think
at this point maybe that that crowd has

1061
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:28.439
shook out some. But anyways,
moving on, bred Nicholson, I'm sorry.

1062
01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:30.319
I was gonna ask you this earlier. What have you been playing?

1063
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.960
Man? I haven't been playing a
lot. Actually, I knew I was

1064
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.359
going to be traveling. I got
this problem. I'll tell all you guys.

1065
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:38.960
I go to the gym a lot. I went twelve times in the

1066
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:41.600
last four days. That's too much. That's a lot. Yeah, I

1067
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:44.039
know, But yeah, I knew
I was going to be able to work

1068
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:46.199
out until Thursday, like this Thursday. So I was trying to pack it

1069
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:48.720
in. Yeah, it doesn't work
that way. I wouldn't think. I

1070
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:53.199
wouldn't think that that you can live
twice a day every other day. Okay,

1071
01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:56.279
all right, so science, Yeah, I know, I know.

1072
01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:00.239
And so as far as what I've
been playing, it's a it's lot of

1073
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:03.000
the elliptical machine and free weights.
Okay, how's that going? It's going

1074
01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:05.520
pretty good. I heard the back
end of that gets a little boring.

1075
01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:09.800
Oh you're telling me you gotta have
a good book or an iPad. I

1076
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:14.159
find that it's terrible doing it so
much. It's just that grind, you

1077
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:15.920
know, say anything like that.
You just got out in the level grind.

1078
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:20.119
It's right, terrible, level up
your tries. I did. I

1079
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:25.319
did try the Lower Croft XBLA game
I heard I heard you talking about Lasting.

1080
01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:28.680
Yeah, I really liked it.
I played about twenty minutes and said,

1081
01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:31.319
now I loved it. Yeah,
I'm done about that game very quickly.

1082
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:33.520
Yeah, that's kind of It's kind
of where I was at with it.

1083
01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:39.079
Sexism just rampant, terrible. It's
really I hate to see it invade

1084
01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:45.159
this office. My question is she
wasn't cooking at all? And did I

1085
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:49.359
miss something? Why she's not pregnant, but shoes on. If your job

1086
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:54.960
is the raid tunes, as I
propose, I had imagine that hers is

1087
01:10:55.720 --> 01:11:00.199
why why wouldn't you wear pants?
Right? Because it's hot, I mean,

1088
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:02.840
but because it's hot and it's all
around on the rocks all day.

1089
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:06.520
Your knees got took terrible, but
they're perfect if you notice. Yeah,

1090
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:12.680
but he also need you know,
the mobility afforded of extremely short shorts.

1091
01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:15.079
And I think she rolls him up
an extra inch too, right, didn't

1092
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:19.960
like there's a little short tough like
these aren't short enough. I get the

1093
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:23.079
knife out, but you know what
if I need to roll him down later,

1094
01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:26.239
that's right. Now are a partner, though he's even less dressed than

1095
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:29.319
her. If you notice, he
just has the flappy thing, that's right.

1096
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.279
He's like an ancient god. He
doesn't need really anything. That's that's

1097
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:38.920
for Lara's benefit more than anyone's.
What does god need with a pair of

1098
01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:43.000
revolvers. Well, he's jumping around
a lot too. Yeah, yeah,

1099
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:47.479
I'm sure that thing's flapping up.
That thing probably sticks. Oh yeah,

1100
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:54.279
he's been sealed in an Aztec tomb
for thousands of years. That's probably that

1101
01:11:54.399 --> 01:12:00.359
needs that. Who knows. It's
like he's been going to the gym forever

1102
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:08.079
on that. This was what it
was racing through your mind as you were

1103
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.720
like, you know what, this
doesn't all makes sense you No, well,

1104
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:13.840
okay, that was the first thing
that hit me, right, this

1105
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:17.720
is the way I played games.
But I shot a couple of what are

1106
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:24.039
they like, demons, like demonic
alligators or something some of those two.

1107
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:27.279
There's just different kind of demons.
And then the first thought that pop in

1108
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:29.560
my head was, Yo, this
is Diablo, but with lower craft.

1109
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.439
I do not want to play this. That's it. You're selling me more

1110
01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:40.239
on the pitch from the beginning,
right, just didn't just did't hit me

1111
01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:43.800
right. I need Elves at the
least, or dwarves. I'll take an

1112
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:46.159
orc. It's my favorite LL cool
J song. I need elves. Yeah.

1113
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:55.640
On this Christmas album, Oh so
filthy filthy record. Oh god,

1114
01:12:55.680 --> 01:13:00.720
I know, Uncle el at his
worst makes Christmas and Hollis look like Christmas

1115
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:04.800
and Queens. Well we're off,
well, we're off subject that. Where's

1116
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:10.560
that spider at? There? So
much about it? Don't worry about it,

1117
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:13.840
were spider. We're gonna be okay, they're gonna make it. However,

1118
01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:17.159
we will instead touch on a topic
that you might know a thing or

1119
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:23.119
two about. Brad Nicholson. How
do some news about Xbox Live subscription costs

1120
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:27.119
as of Monday morning, or at
least the announcement was on Monday morning that

1121
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.439
they are being raised effective November first. Yeah, and I guess you know.

1122
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:33.439
The reason they gave is, you
know, to keep providing you this

1123
01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:38.399
world class service, blah blah blah, we have to do this, which

1124
01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:41.640
I don't. I don't. I
mean, so, really, what have

1125
01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:45.760
they done to to Xbox Live.
The problem is that the things they've done

1126
01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:48.720
are things that you have to pay
for in addition to Xbox Live anyway,

1127
01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:51.439
So it's it's stuff. Hey,
it's cool that it's gott Netflix, but

1128
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:56.199
you have to subscribe to Netflix,
and it's not like Microsoft servers are serving

1129
01:13:56.279 --> 01:14:02.920
those movies other than them probably developing
the Netflix application. H that's kind of

1130
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:06.119
I don't I don't know. I
don't think it's outrage of them to to

1131
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:11.319
bump it up ten bucks after it's
been as much as it's been since the

1132
01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:16.359
start of Xbox Live. But I
think that they're they're reasoning, like on

1133
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:19.520
the public side has been very poor. I don't think yeah, they're they're

1134
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:23.279
they're spin on. It has been
shitty. This to me, if not

1135
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:27.840
none exists. This to me seems
like them kind of sitting back watching what

1136
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:30.359
Sony does ye to figure out,
you know, like how Sony's gonna play

1137
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:33.800
this out with this whole PlayStation plus
thing. And after they watch them come

1138
01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:35.439
out with this thing, they're like, oh, yeah, we could totally

1139
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:43.760
raise it whatever how much as Plus? But I mean you can play games

1140
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:46.880
for free, and you can use
Netflix for no additional charge and and all

1141
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:53.359
that stuff, and that I'm guessing
that that probably didn't move the needle enough

1142
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:56.479
for Microsoft and go like, oh
we got to move our Netflix outside the

1143
01:14:56.560 --> 01:15:00.359
paywall or oh we gotta do something
to get people into They just like,

1144
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:03.319
yeah, raise it, dude,
come on, we'll be fine. What

1145
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:08.479
what do you get now for your
here paid subscription? Is it? Uh?

1146
01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:13.199
Playing games like like get to play
multiplayers people? Yeah? Okay,

1147
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:16.119
that messaging, Yeah, the voice
messaging. I mean there's tons of like

1148
01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:18.720
demos and stuff you can only get
as a gold number, Okay, at

1149
01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:25.560
least at first usually wait time,
Netflix ESPN whenever that launches. Yeah,

1150
01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:30.800
speaking of which when that's coming on, I don't know my friends October has

1151
01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:33.279
been using it. Oh yeah,
but it's still like a cable thing,

1152
01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:36.880
right, like, yeah, but
people are covered. I don't have it.

1153
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:43.039
Sp does not good for ESPN.
They're living in the boonies whatever.

1154
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:46.399
Using a privately owned I SPP has
their own US net server. Everything will

1155
01:15:46.399 --> 01:15:51.520
be fine. You've come out ahead. Comcast drops using that like two years

1156
01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:57.039
ago, so you win. So
yeah, it's sixty bucks a year now

1157
01:15:57.079 --> 01:15:59.800
in the US, which I think
is in line with what a lot of

1158
01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:03.000
the rest of the world has been
playing. Paying for a Xbox Live Gold.

1159
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:10.199
It's still a divisive issue that has
people's blood up all over the place.

1160
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:12.640
It's like when you increase the you
know, when you increase that fee

1161
01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:16.840
without attaching to it, like and
here's what else you'll get. I think

1162
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:19.239
this one it might have been a
good time for them to break out like

1163
01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:23.520
tiered levels of service. Yeah,
and say like if you just want to

1164
01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:27.760
play online and do like the game
related and like voice chat related stuff,

1165
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:31.680
here's like a lower fee. But
you know, if you it'll be seventy

1166
01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:34.800
a year. If you want Netflix
and ESPN and all this other stuff or

1167
01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:40.000
like give give it good people,
unlimited friends, you know, like some

1168
01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:44.119
roll out some new features that yeah, like unlimited friends. Talk about things

1169
01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:45.800
that I would pay for, like
a bigger friends list coming. Well should

1170
01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:48.000
I shouldn't have said that. Now
they're going to charge for it? Man.

1171
01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:51.359
Well, well, just like you
know, like when you you know,

1172
01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:55.079
here all the new features that we're
adding, like we're working on it.

1173
01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.279
I guess they have added features in
the past, and you know,

1174
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:00.359
it's like the service give you more
than it did when they launched it.

1175
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.359
I don't like a lot of the
things they added, like ads. How

1176
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:05.479
about an AD free dad, that'd
be nice, yea. Yeah, like

1177
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:09.479
the ability to opt out of any
one thing like I don't want to see

1178
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:14.239
yeah, or patios on Twitter.
Yeah, like they're actually you know,

1179
01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:16.479
so you know how they boot you
up to the spotlight. Yeah, there's

1180
01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:19.520
actually there's a there's a hack to
get around that. Well, there's an

1181
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:25.199
audio ad as the first unit on
the Yeah, I thought it doesn't give

1182
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:28.359
you audio until you leave it and
come back. I'm pretty sure this Halo

1183
01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:30.680
Reach. It's Halo Reach audio as
soon as if you turn a console on

1184
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:34.319
and don't touch anything. Their sound
coming out. I was almost I kind

1185
01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:38.479
of agree with Jeff. I remember
booting it up. I'm pretty sure maybe

1186
01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:41.359
because you heard it. Yeah,
yeah, I'm pretty sure I heard,

1187
01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:45.359
like you know, actually it might
have been like dumping back from a game.

1188
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:48.359
But even when it's like yeah,
I don't know's I don't know,

1189
01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:51.960
I don't care. I don't yeah, I do not care if the ads

1190
01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:55.880
the point. The point is the
advertising is getting more prominent and not less,

1191
01:17:56.079 --> 01:18:00.239
right, and then raising the price
of this service also doesn't Yeah,

1192
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:02.039
if they were to offset it by
saying like and will let you opt out

1193
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:05.439
of and it like these you know, we've broken up these ads into game

1194
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:09.880
related not game related, movie TV. You know, just let's say,

1195
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:16.159
like I don't want to see promotional
units for any of your videos or any

1196
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:20.079
of your content partner videos because some
of that it's like like the Microsoft videos

1197
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:25.479
yes, the other stuff no,
and then turn off all the car ads.

1198
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:29.560
But let me see stuff for movies
and for video games like that's you

1199
01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:32.840
know, like that would be cool. All it would take that stuff I

1200
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:35.720
don't use at all, Like I
use like the library stuff, and I

1201
01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:41.600
sometimes brows the arcade stuff, but
usually I know exactly what I'm looking for,

1202
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:44.000
so like, yeah, because it's
the newest thing that came out.

1203
01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:45.760
Yeah, So like ninety percent of
that stuff I don't even use, so

1204
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:49.920
like on that system, on that
dashboard, it's kind of just clutter.

1205
01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:56.439
It's yeah, like currently with the
NXC stuff, like I am very unclear

1206
01:18:56.479 --> 01:19:00.039
as like what what purpose, like
what is it supposed to serve? And

1207
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:02.760
it sounds like the refresh for Connects
doesn't necessarily fix any of that stuff.

1208
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:06.760
It just is rejiggers it, yeah, rejiggering some stuff to make it more

1209
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:11.640
connect friendly. But and like the
the stuff I do use a lot of

1210
01:19:11.680 --> 01:19:15.079
I get through through the guide button, like checking friends or stuff like that.

1211
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:16.760
I've come to rely more and more
on that thing. And it's it's

1212
01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:20.199
nice. I mean, let's you
circumvent a lot of that crap. Yeah

1213
01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:24.680
we quick launch. Yeah, yeah, I didn't use that as much as

1214
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.119
I should. I've never used it. Launch is great. You can be

1215
01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:30.920
anywhere in the dashboard and like launch
whatever game. I think it's like the

1216
01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:33.359
last ten games that you played.
Yeah, just like launching by popping that

1217
01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:36.239
thing up and hitting that bad I've
used it when I've used it I've been

1218
01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:41.319
happy. I remember, I think
you could be in Netflix and launch like

1219
01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:45.119
whatever game is in your drive or
a bunch of arcade games. M cool,

1220
01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:50.359
right, and never what else is
going on in news Man Monday?

1221
01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:56.159
Night Combat is getting a free DLC
pack at some point, Yeah, in

1222
01:19:56.239 --> 01:19:59.800
a big patch that's will balance up
dates, balance up dates. I'll dude,

1223
01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:02.199
there's StarCraft update. We can talk
about StarCraft. You assholes. The

1224
01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:08.159
opening I've never said, don't talk
about it, but now we have something

1225
01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:11.159
to talk about, Brad. What's
going on in the balance update and StarCraft?

1226
01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:14.920
It's weird they I mean, typically, you know, their balance changes

1227
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:19.000
are a pretty closely guarded secret that
comes out when they put the pass out.

1228
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:23.880
But for some whatever reason, they
went live with like, here's a

1229
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.000
bunch of the stuff we're doing in
the one point one patch. I thought

1230
01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.239
you'd like to know when does it
come out? They haven't given a date

1231
01:20:29.319 --> 01:20:33.199
yet. They still run bidas servers
for people to not for not for StarCraft.

1232
01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:36.279
It's not I don't think that's necessary. I mean, you know,

1233
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:39.640
it's not like, Wow, it's
not that large scale. I'm sure they

1234
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:44.399
do their internal testing and sure,
and it's probably stuff that I'm I guarantee,

1235
01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:45.520
I'm the only one in the room
that really gives a shit. But

1236
01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:50.279
you're but you are pissed about it. Oh well yeah, they actually,

1237
01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:56.279
yeah they really they really, I
don't want to say messed up, but

1238
01:20:56.399 --> 01:21:01.880
they changed the Pro Toss early game
dramatically. Has this has this screwed up.

1239
01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:04.560
This screw up your build order,
but you can't build Pilot. It's

1240
01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:11.119
definitely gonna change. It's just like
depending on whatever. It's definitely depending on

1241
01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:13.720
who you're playing against, it's absolutely
gonna change it. Like you're gonna you're

1242
01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:16.640
gonna see six Pool against Pro Toss
a lot after this patch, I can

1243
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:21.520
promise you. So what would be
the new way to stop it? Fronto

1244
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:25.119
boosting cell. It's out faster.
I mean what they did was change the

1245
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:30.000
build time on Zelots and also this
baffles me. Also the cool downtime on

1246
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:33.640
warp Gates, which is how you
get Zelots out after you get war Gate

1247
01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:38.000
Tech. But that also affects every
other unit that comes out of Warp Gates,

1248
01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:40.399
which is a lot. Yeah,
so that seems kind of weird to

1249
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:43.880
me. This is all just multiplayer, right, This goes back to nothing

1250
01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:47.520
to do with single player. Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah,

1251
01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:50.439
whatever, it takes you longer to
get your units out, that means that,

1252
01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:54.840
I mean, Zeric has an advantage
in getting units into your base faster

1253
01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:59.960
than it didn't do anything for ZERI
Uh, the ultraisk is being impacted,

1254
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:02.920
which is weird because people will hardly
use ultra leaks anyway. But wasn't it

1255
01:22:03.479 --> 01:22:09.479
seemed like the general, uh consensus
was that the Zerg was fairly underpowered all

1256
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:13.880
things, because the consisus in the
pro community is the Terrens are overpowered.

1257
01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:20.600
Terrans are imba or what as they
say, imbalanced? They what have they

1258
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:26.119
done the Terrens? That's a really
really terrible appreciation things. Got it?

1259
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:30.359
You know, we're amazing all these
language barriers. Yeah, totally. I

1260
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:33.319
guess the biggest the biggest change for
Zerg is that they have weakened the siege

1261
01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:36.880
tank. Okay, but the see
shank was just fucking dominating the Zerk ground

1262
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:41.199
forces, like I mean, as
well it should to an extent, but

1263
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:45.560
it's realized Teric stuff. They change
the way that it does damage versus different

1264
01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:47.800
units, but it's it's probably going
to change a lot of stuff in the

1265
01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:53.680
the meta game. I think everyone
had to expect that a lot of that

1266
01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:56.159
stuff will change, a lot of
it will change again, you know,

1267
01:22:56.439 --> 01:22:59.159
absolutely, yeah. I mean how
long did they balance broud War? I

1268
01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:01.720
mean years? Yeah, I was
like just stopped like a couple of years

1269
01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:05.199
ago. And it's crazy. I
mean, if there are these perceived like

1270
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:11.079
major injustices between the factions, like
you kind of expect people to wail about

1271
01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:13.520
it a little bit. But people
were screaming about this like it was set

1272
01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:17.239
in stone and it was never going
to change. Is It's crazy? Maybe

1273
01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:20.680
that's why they felt the need to
respond early. I don't know, I

1274
01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:24.720
really want to go play that game, No thanks. I played it on

1275
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:29.399
a forty six inch TV this weekend, like sitting at computer monitor distance.

1276
01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:31.439
I was gonna ask like about a
foot and a half away, like physically

1277
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:34.279
turning my head to see everything.
It sounds like it would make it a

1278
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:40.319
lot harder actually about I don't know. Thirty seconds into a match, I

1279
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:44.279
just forgot what I was looking at
it just like played it was closed eyes.

1280
01:23:44.600 --> 01:23:45.800
Think about it like that thing.
It could I could play it on

1281
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:48.239
a thirteen inch screen if I had
to, if I could read the numbers

1282
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:50.680
or whatever. It's like it's the
same game. Whatever. I like this

1283
01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:56.880
challenge. How far can play?
All right? Vin? He gets a

1284
01:23:56.880 --> 01:24:00.880
scanned converter. Do this back?
Maybe, like when you knew you couldn't

1285
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:04.039
build something? Maybe could you play
StarCraft two at twenty odds? Stamp?

1286
01:24:05.399 --> 01:24:15.760
Oh man, I mean I've seen
you guys play blind MK two three three

1287
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:20.319
Jeff blew up the World without seeing
Yeah, yeah, that sounds like a

1288
01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:26.680
heavy metal album, blow up the
world without seeing. Yes, I think,

1289
01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:30.920
I think what I'm sorry, I
got lot world. Okay, I

1290
01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:36.359
distinctively remember you doing that fatale,
and then I picked that one because it's

1291
01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:42.720
easy to do at any range because
it's and then Monday Night comment, Yeah,

1292
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.640
there's a bunch of pad or a
bunch of bounce fixes. You'll only

1293
01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:47.760
be able to hack enemy turrets if
you're hacking as at level three. Really

1294
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:54.079
yeah interesting, that's the only one
I remember from that big long Go look

1295
01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:56.159
at the news store if you want
more details. So I'm not gonna go

1296
01:24:56.239 --> 01:25:00.680
through this because say, yeah,
there's a ton Also, d hardware price

1297
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:03.680
drops are happening. Uh. The
ds I and DSi Xcel are both being

1298
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:10.479
dropped twenty bone. So it was
one eighty nine ninety nine for the the

1299
01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:14.960
Excel, so it's now one sixty
nine and then the light and I'm sorry,

1300
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:19.159
the regular DSi was one s nine, one forty nine. The DS

1301
01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:26.039
light remains unchanged. So h you
know, it's kind of out of the

1302
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:29.079
blue. Price drops definitely make it
sound like, hey, stuff's ready to

1303
01:25:29.119 --> 01:25:30.319
go. I gotta get these out
of here. Yeah, we gotta get

1304
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:32.399
rid of these things. Every day
must go. We have a new thing

1305
01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:38.600
we have to sell you. Shortly, they gave like a quarter release for

1306
01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:43.000
Japan, but they didn't haven't really
said anything about us release said did they

1307
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:47.279
say? I forget what they said, but they said something fiscal something fiss

1308
01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:54.039
my favorite time of year. So
it's like by March the fiscal quarter.

1309
01:25:55.359 --> 01:26:00.439
Uh March eleven, yes, no, yes, last March I think maybe

1310
01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:02.239
like March twel we had already out. We have to build we have to

1311
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:10.560
build a time machine to go buy
the three DS. Yeah, I'm a

1312
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:15.399
little lean on on news. Great, all right, so it's been a

1313
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:17.600
little lean. Games are going gold
and getting ready to come out for the

1314
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:21.159
holidays. That's something where everyone is
at right now. It's so yeah,

1315
01:26:21.319 --> 01:26:26.039
not really time to announce games.
It's time to finish them and ship them.

1316
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:30.640
That's right, it's time to play
stark. Yeah, well nobody,

1317
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:34.039
somebody must have said something. It's
time for cridiculous out there. Nobody opened

1318
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:38.359
their mouth and said now, I
think I think jess point is accurate.

1319
01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:41.760
There. Everybody's behind. No one's
got time to open their mouths. We

1320
01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:45.399
discussed we discussed the great used game
debate last week. We didn't, but

1321
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:51.239
I feel like we've had that debate. Yeah, twenty times. It comes

1322
01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:56.479
and goes. Yeah, I can't
remember I did Penny Arcade, didn't It

1323
01:26:56.600 --> 01:27:02.239
was Corey Ledesma from THHQ. That's
right, Yeah, SmackDown dude. Yeah,

1324
01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:06.359
he said that it was like the
out of context the way that everyone

1325
01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:12.840
is saying is that you know,
you're cheating if you It's not quite exactly

1326
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:16.239
what he said, I guess,
but it's uh yeah, I mean,

1327
01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:19.279
you know, he's just kind of
reiterating the point that when you buy games

1328
01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:23.960
used, none of that money goes
back to the people that actually made the

1329
01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:29.039
game, which is why they're doing
these one time use codes, which like

1330
01:27:29.239 --> 01:27:32.479
is the wrong thing to get upset
about. Like that's like some people are

1331
01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:36.720
like, oh, these colds are
terrible, like like, well, imagine

1332
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:41.680
PC games, you know, and
how they've been for the last forever with

1333
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:45.439
much cereal numbers and all that other
stuff. Like that's just kind of where

1334
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:48.119
they're going with this stuff. But
the difference is it's only going to apply

1335
01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:53.000
to the online side and way more
annoyed at pre order bonuses. Yeah,

1336
01:27:53.079 --> 01:27:55.640
that's that's way worse. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like here's the you know,

1337
01:27:55.720 --> 01:27:59.159
there's exclusion and SmackDown is doing that
too. If you want to play

1338
01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:02.560
the Tribute A True Tribute for the
Troops Arena, you've got a pre order

1339
01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:06.359
from someplace specific. And because eventually
I thought all that stuff would understand,

1340
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:11.000
Yeah you got a pre order from
afghan only Afghani game stops are gonna have

1341
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:15.960
that. Yeah, at some point
I thought all that stuff a trickle into

1342
01:28:16.039 --> 01:28:18.399
DLC. But some of it hasn't, some of it does, some of

1343
01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:20.439
it doesn't. Yeah, it's just
like a lot of it's like, oh,

1344
01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:23.479
we're gonna put it out for real. I think the Candle Innch two

1345
01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:26.359
stuff is some of it was pre
order bonus and they're gonna put it out

1346
01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:29.600
as packs for sale later on,
which is even worse because it's all right

1347
01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:31.439
on the disk and you're just like
going through the menus and it's all listed

1348
01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:34.920
right there down alottle content to play
these three maps, Well how about fuck

1349
01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:41.079
you instead? How about I'm done
playing it? And that's way worse because

1350
01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:45.159
like currently, there is no way
to get it right. It's just right

1351
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:47.520
now. If you were like cana
Innch two super fan, yeah, but

1352
01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:50.079
only because you just bought it and
they're super psyched, You're just like,

1353
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:54.880
ah, well I guess some yeah, I hate that stuff. Nothing to

1354
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:58.960
no, no, no proposition on
offer at all. It's terrible. Wherever,

1355
01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:03.600
like how much the weird ship we
went through just to get two costume

1356
01:29:03.720 --> 01:29:06.399
stuff and that, you know,
we were lucky enough to be in the

1357
01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:10.720
position that we're into get hold some
of the stuff. It is pretty cool,

1358
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:12.920
but it's yeah, it's like you
can't. So much of it is

1359
01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:17.000
retailers specific as like, well,
I can only buy this at one place.

1360
01:29:17.199 --> 01:29:20.199
I can only pre order, you
know, buying seven copies of the

1361
01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:28.159
game, you know, Craigslist or
something used. Yeah, no, that

1362
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:30.479
money goes to that. Oh yeah, as I heard, Well, you

1363
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:33.000
know you paid all the money up
front, you would be selling you because

1364
01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:36.199
like you open the mall, enjoyed
them, and then passed them along.

1365
01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:41.159
I would probably passed that money along
myself, write a check. And you

1366
01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:45.239
know it's like some people some people
like to to bring up like oh,

1367
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:46.880
you know, if I buy a
car, I can sell it used.

1368
01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:50.399
I don't have to go again.
That's the whole games as goods versus games

1369
01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:55.399
as a service, all right,
Yeah, which is evolving over time,

1370
01:29:55.479 --> 01:29:58.479
so it's hard to address. Yeah, it's hard to see exactly where the

1371
01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:00.640
stuff is saying I need to write
you a one dollar receipt on a pizza

1372
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.119
like notebook papers, so you can
go show it. Yeah, exactly,

1373
01:30:03.399 --> 01:30:08.079
going to show it to core La
Desmonds. I see one dollar tax me

1374
01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:11.159
on a dollar. I mean you
could gifted it. You could see the

1375
01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:15.600
day coming in far off in the
far flowing digital future where everything is like

1376
01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:19.880
Steamer, Xbox Live, right,
yeah, everything, we'll see every single

1377
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:25.159
game, regardless of you know,
online offline, start coming with a serial

1378
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:29.239
number like PC games right before we
go all digital, you know, because

1379
01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:31.600
that's you know, if people really
do perceive the used game thing is is

1380
01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:34.239
a huge threat. Like that's where
it kind of has to go. Well,

1381
01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:38.159
the other things stopping them right now
is internet connectivity in the home right

1382
01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:40.760
in the console. Yeah, like
people people to buy a disc, they

1383
01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:44.399
need internet connection, and you know, people like game stop, like people

1384
01:30:44.439 --> 01:30:47.359
still like their retailer arrangements and you
know, market marketing dollars and all that

1385
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:51.439
stuff. All right, Jeff,
all right, I gotta go, Thank

1386
01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:54.840
you for your time. I'll see
you guys later. I'll see in a

1387
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:58.600
little bit. Yeah, take her
ease. That was Jeff Grismin, folks.

1388
01:30:58.720 --> 01:31:06.359
He's gonna sell all those games,
video game crap. No one wants

1389
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:13.600
to write about anime new releases.
Let's talk about it. Yeah, yeah,

1390
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:15.840
all right, so I got another
news. Wait, unless you guys

1391
01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:20.800
can think of anything moving on.
Yes, we know that for a fact

1392
01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:27.359
because Brad received a canvas version of
the Metroid Other aims art that wasn't the

1393
01:31:27.399 --> 01:31:30.840
box art. That actually random character
arts, like random CG art. I

1394
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:34.159
embver play around on the issue.
Actually, I know for sure games are

1395
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:40.720
not art on canvas. It was
like art. That's that's the weirdest thing.

1396
01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:43.680
It's like CG animated, but it's
on a canvas. Alright, let's

1397
01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:45.600
talk about some new releases for this
week. All right, you guys ready,

1398
01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:47.920
wait, hold on, I could
probably guess, all right, what

1399
01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:54.560
do you think the new releases are
Vinny Years the PSP? They are probably

1400
01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:57.840
I'm gonna say at least two.
One would be Volca Chronicles too, that's

1401
01:31:57.880 --> 01:32:02.119
accurate, and the other one would
be I know what that one is.

1402
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:06.720
Oh, Brad, you're gonna finish
it off getting some clair void vibes from

1403
01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:11.640
over in the Caravel direction. What
do you think? I'm gonna say?

1404
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:16.159
It's Ace Combat Something Something now Something
Something came out on the on the DS.

1405
01:32:16.399 --> 01:32:20.079
Yeah, that's that's that's a different
subfranchise. Yeah, it's actually Ace

1406
01:32:20.159 --> 01:32:26.760
Combat Joint Assault close though with the
Something Something. Also out this week Disney

1407
01:32:26.800 --> 01:32:30.359
Guilty Party, which quick look,
go watch it. We have one James

1408
01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:35.239
really good. It does if you're
It's very clever and filled with lovable stereotypes.

1409
01:32:35.239 --> 01:32:38.479
I could probably go on about that
game for at least seven minutes,

1410
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:43.239
but we'll start back on that quick
look. Also this week is Metstroid other

1411
01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:46.680
m for Nintendo we which we have
video we have spoken about at length already,

1412
01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:54.920
and Xbox Libricade's release is Dead Rising
two Case zero for five dollars and

1413
01:32:55.399 --> 01:33:00.760
without further ado throwing this over to
mister Jeff Gershman for your Nintendo down releases

1414
01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:03.520
for the week. Jeff taken away. That's right, I'm here, hey,

1415
01:33:03.640 --> 01:33:12.039
Jeff. Hi uh a banner week
this week. I'm very excited stretch

1416
01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:20.000
it out for Drama one We Wear
release We Wear threes starting with We Wear

1417
01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:29.399
Tales of Elastic Boy Mission one.
How so it's episodic from lexis New Gay.

1418
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:39.560
It's French the Gay six hundred points. Tales of Elastic Boy offers a

1419
01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:45.199
totally innovative and unique style of gameplay
that takes full advantage of the WE remote

1420
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:49.880
DM controller. Has there ever been
anything good that has taken quote quote full

1421
01:33:50.039 --> 01:33:56.119
advantage? She need to take like
half a like quarter advantage metroid other end,

1422
01:33:57.239 --> 01:34:01.119
You're a planet. You'll have to
travel through mini lands, defeat various

1423
01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:06.920
enemies, meet unexpected friends, and
solve tricky puzzles. Play in single player

1424
01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:12.840
mode or with your friends, and
discover funny games. This just sounds like

1425
01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:15.840
Yo. It's a video game.
It has things in it and places and

1426
01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:20.279
other things. Use your stretching arms
to swing and punch, roll as fast

1427
01:34:20.319 --> 01:34:25.279
as you can, or jump onto
your enemies there. Now that's there's something

1428
01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:30.479
actually about real abilities. Based on
a powerful physics engine, Tales of Elastic

1429
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:33.479
Boy offers a truly original, entertaining
gaming experience that's easy to learn by challenging

1430
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:38.960
to master. Like all the best
games, are we at the point where

1431
01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:43.680
we can stop touting physics engines.
It's got physics and it's easy to pick

1432
01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:46.720
up and play by challenging to master. Okay, like every game ever made,

1433
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:51.600
like Othello Lifetime. Oh no,
man, Havoc does not license itself

1434
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:55.720
or reversing. It's true. Next
you're gonna say, like, oh,

1435
01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:00.760
all these games with trees not turn
on its bee tree on me? Not

1436
01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:03.399
here, I wouldn't be able to
take it. No, no, I

1437
01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:05.840
have no problem with it. But
no one's ever said like, yo,

1438
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:10.319
and we got speed tree. We
have three. Yeah. Yeah, it's

1439
01:35:10.359 --> 01:35:16.239
like, well you bought trees.
Dsiwear Cosmos X two two times the Cosmos

1440
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:25.720
from Saturnine Games. DSi points rated
E for everybody pilot the Cosmos X two

1441
01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:29.359
to defend your planet against an alien
invasion. Battle your way through the Cellar

1442
01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:32.000
System to the alien whole world to
defeat their army. There quit your ship

1443
01:35:32.039 --> 01:35:35.079
with two weapons of your choice,
and switch between them at any time during

1444
01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:40.479
the battle. Your active weapon takes
damage when your ship gets hit. Defeating

1445
01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:45.479
enemies regenerates energy and your inactive weapon. It's like instruction manuals. The key

1446
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:49.359
to your Survivalize in finding a balance
in your weapon, yours edge, battle

1447
01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:53.600
your way through six levels of action. Attest your skills with three difficulty levels.

1448
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:58.479
Three bonus motes provide additional challenges.
Didn't we establish last week that some

1449
01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:00.840
of these are in fact taken from
Church Man at least that one was.

1450
01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:06.399
That's what percentage of them are?
All right? You thought it wasn't possible.

1451
01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:11.159
Oh I did, Jeff, I
thought it wasn't possible. I knew

1452
01:36:11.159 --> 01:36:13.319
it was, Man, I looked
at the sheet. I knew in my

1453
01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:21.880
heart my notebook boom pearls. Yes, all the people that bought my notebook

1454
01:36:21.920 --> 01:36:28.439
Carbon just said, I hope it
has like double the pages. This is

1455
01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:35.479
from no at it's five hundred Nintendo
DSi points. No. My notebook allows

1456
01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:39.840
you to say notes wherever you go. Just pop up in your Nintendo DSi

1457
01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:44.359
system and jot down your thoughts.
What about what about my notebook? Thought

1458
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:47.319
your notebook Maga, listen, cross
it off, or play your favorite pen

1459
01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:53.319
and paper games. Games not included
what You can even personalize your notebook by

1460
01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:57.520
drawing on the cover and changing the
paper type with twenty four different unlock paperit

1461
01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:00.079
style. What do I have to
do to unlock papers styles? Yo,

1462
01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:03.920
I don't get to tell you what
you got to unlock paper styles paper styles,

1463
01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:05.960
I'll tell you all about. Okay, you need a pat and then

1464
01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:11.039
under another pat, use the pencil
to make your notes or doodles, and

1465
01:37:11.119 --> 01:37:15.000
then erase the bits you don't like. With five ink colors, you'll always

1466
01:37:15.079 --> 01:37:18.439
be able to make your notes and
doodles look stylish. My notebook also includes

1467
01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:23.600
one hundred and twenty eight pages to
ride on and the ability to export your

1468
01:37:23.640 --> 01:37:27.399
pages here in Nintendo DSi photo Album. I'm pretty sure that's the exact same

1469
01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:31.319
block attacks from my note book car
that is, So, what's what is

1470
01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:38.520
like the practical difference between the different
different papers? Yeah, it's like this

1471
01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:42.359
one's got squirrel, But what like
is that just like literally like the front

1472
01:37:42.399 --> 01:37:45.119
of the notebook is a different color, five in color? That's worth it?

1473
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:48.560
Maybe it's five different ones, right, that's it's five bucks. But

1474
01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:53.119
it doesn't can play that. You
can get My Notebook or Dead Rise in

1475
01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:56.600
case zero, what's your choice.
I am baffled. I am baffled by

1476
01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:59.600
the multiple my notebook products. What
do you think Ballpark? What do you

1477
01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:03.640
think it's gonna give us? Somewhere
in the two? Well, I think

1478
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:08.399
they'll give the exact same score they
gave My notebooks seven points. They probably

1479
01:38:08.399 --> 01:38:10.640
should give it a lower score.
Oh yeah, they did give it like

1480
01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:14.239
a seven five. Yeah, give
it a crazy score. Like again,

1481
01:38:14.840 --> 01:38:16.920
heart goes out, Yeah, heart, heart goes out to the the men

1482
01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:23.039
of the trenches. Reviewing DSWare games, you're fighting the good fight or the

1483
01:38:23.119 --> 01:38:28.079
seven people that read those. You
are, especially like a week later,

1484
01:38:28.199 --> 01:38:30.760
our fallen heroes. You changed too
much. You lose the whole crowd.

1485
01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:33.119
This is true. Well, it's
comp I mean, for a game that's

1486
01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:39.720
so competitive online, you changed.
Yeah, you can't change that down,

1487
01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:43.279
you know, a quarter circle forward
and Penn has to do the same thing

1488
01:38:43.399 --> 01:38:49.760
in every game. That's not my
notebook anymore. Music on Colon learning Piano

1489
01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:57.760
from Abbey Light two hund Nintendo DSi
points. An entire orchestra follows your performance

1490
01:38:57.800 --> 01:39:04.840
of fifteen great classics by playing each
day, your ability may increase. I

1491
01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:12.239
don't want to go out of the
limit. Let's say you you might earn

1492
01:39:12.319 --> 01:39:15.760
the Bronze, silver, and gold
medals for each song completing each different level.

1493
01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:18.560
Also might just have it on its
own. A SIMP of five music

1494
01:39:18.640 --> 01:39:23.039
score is shown on the upper screen, and a full piano keyboard appears on

1495
01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:27.680
the touch screen. Got in beginner's
note by note on their first steps learned

1496
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:32.359
works by famous composers including Beethoven,
puck a, Bell, bock Strauss,

1497
01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:43.960
and Verdi. Also the Chopsticks Guy
Chopsticks, Due Johnny Chopsticks, Lil Wayne

1498
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:54.479
Key, I, Biz Marquis.
Is that it? That is? It's

1499
01:39:54.520 --> 01:39:56.399
all, That's it, and that's
all. That's it and that's all.

1500
01:39:56.439 --> 01:40:03.920
Thank you Jeff for something. Yeah. Sure, let's gentlemen take it to

1501
01:40:04.039 --> 01:40:08.520
the emails. How do you feel
about that? You know how I feel?

1502
01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:15.680
How do you feel? Oh?
Emails? BombCast at giant bomb dot

1503
01:40:15.720 --> 01:40:18.960
com is the email address. First
email comes from Andy Gorman and Cincinnati.

1504
01:40:19.199 --> 01:40:25.680
Oh hey, giant bomb. Oh. I feel like although Microsoft is really

1505
01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:28.560
hoping for Connected Dwell as a product, I'm not sure they are marketing it

1506
01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:31.279
very well. Most of my friends
whose product is aimed at, are not

1507
01:40:31.479 --> 01:40:35.800
very intense gamers, who mainly only
play we party games and the Call of

1508
01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:41.520
Duty series. However, none of
them have even heard of Connect. When

1509
01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:44.880
I asked them of their opinion on
it. Many of their younger siblings also

1510
01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:47.640
responded with confusion. How do you
feel Microsoft's advertising campaign is working? And

1511
01:40:47.760 --> 01:40:51.439
have you noticed the things I have? I guess I don't really feel like

1512
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:56.079
like an ad campaign has really started
in Earnest yet. Yeah. No,

1513
01:40:56.239 --> 01:41:00.359
they've They've been kind of showing it
to people like us and that sort of

1514
01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:01.840
stuff, but they're big, mainstream
pushed. I don't think it's really gotten

1515
01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:05.319
underway. I mean they're just starting
the mall stuff and you know, Best

1516
01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:11.800
Buy appearances and all that, so
it's kind of underway. The morning show

1517
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:15.159
circuit is right, Yeah, they're
big, you know, gift guide push

1518
01:41:15.279 --> 01:41:19.680
for the holidays and stuff that'll be
where you see it everywhere. Too early

1519
01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:23.279
to gauge, yeah, I guess
it's still I don't know, it's still

1520
01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:26.600
too early to try and create that
sort of big awareness. I would imagine

1521
01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:29.439
that they would try to put this
thing everywhere, like mainstream stuff, like

1522
01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:32.520
try and get it on your your
morning shows and on all that just it

1523
01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:36.920
is so it is like such a
like that sells very easily to the mainstream.

1524
01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:39.399
Like you look at that thing.
You're like, oh, that's the

1525
01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:42.439
future. It's like the wave.
But that's the thing. That's the thing

1526
01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:45.399
that you start selling to the mainstream
the day that it comes out. Yeah,

1527
01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:45.920
yeah, if you show it to
them now, they're just going to

1528
01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:48.039
forget about it. But you're like, oh that sounds neat. Is kind

1529
01:41:48.079 --> 01:41:53.439
of get that No, what when
coming out well enough ahead of like Christmas

1530
01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:57.079
for you know it to just serve
It's it's great because video games have been

1531
01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:00.479
getting so complicated. It's so complicated. Might nephew has one of those I

1532
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:03.319
can't even hold the controller anymore,
and this is great because I could just

1533
01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:06.520
move, I could just connect.
Would be a really great escne On TV

1534
01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:10.880
product, or at least that's how
they should do the ad campus do informercials

1535
01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:15.840
like oh, couple it with those
HD glasses, get a free shake weight,

1536
01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:19.760
sing a lot of like has this
ever happened to you? And then

1537
01:42:19.800 --> 01:42:27.600
he's like black and white funnel controller
in the air, like all these complicated

1538
01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:30.840
controllers no more, throwing them all
in the garden. That's right. And

1539
01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:38.920
then in full brilliant technicolor comes the
Connect Microsoft Connect see the world with the

1540
01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:45.920
color and clarity of HD. Speaking
of which Chris h from Philly writes in

1541
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:53.359
to talk about high definition madness,
and he references the HD vision sunglasses,

1542
01:42:54.239 --> 01:43:00.680
which are already like high definition as
a term has has rapidly lost any and

1543
01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:02.319
all. Me. You know a
thing or two. I want to do

1544
01:43:02.359 --> 01:43:09.239
anything for DP, I mean enhanced. Nobody ever said that was D my

1545
01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:15.359
eed TV? What do what?
Doorke everything? Lets you see the world?

1546
01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:17.600
It was. I think it was
like a Brad Nicholson. Maybe you

1547
01:43:17.600 --> 01:43:21.000
can back me up. I believe
there was a like Men's Health issue recently

1548
01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:27.199
that on the cover advertised HD abs. I've not heard of this, but

1549
01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:31.319
I like seven hundred and twenty abs. How do you get them? I

1550
01:43:31.439 --> 01:43:35.960
know you have to tire to my
SD absurder that's right. More importantly,

1551
01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:42.680
my sd abs are tired of me? Yes HD? Uh? And then

1552
01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:48.000
and then also uh, I guess
it's valves bar is introducing HD paint,

1553
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:57.199
High Definition house paint, make your
walls hide? You know what company name?

1554
01:43:57.279 --> 01:44:02.159
Sounds like they should be like selling
high definition herpies metic. I do

1555
01:44:02.319 --> 01:44:06.359
not take valspar if you are in
any high blood pressure medication seven twenty her

1556
01:44:06.479 --> 01:44:13.000
p. There's a there's definitely been
a high HD audio around, like I've

1557
01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:16.199
seen that. Yeah, this D
audio, I think that's actually there's a

1558
01:44:16.319 --> 01:44:19.479
standard with that. That's not necessarily
all fake. It's what is that it's

1559
01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:26.239
like to apply that. It's like
audio only, so it's like CDs that

1560
01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:30.439
are recorded in surround sound or audio
that's recorded and HD audio. So it's

1561
01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:32.439
like, here's an album you can
buy and listen to on your surround sound

1562
01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:39.760
gear via DVD player. But that's
at least closer in the realm of something

1563
01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:43.439
that would be high definition, not
paint at least that's yeah, that's a

1564
01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:48.720
technical spec like I don't believe.
I don't believe that exists for glasses or

1565
01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:55.000
abs or paint. So whatever.
It's just it's just I'm just saying it's

1566
01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:58.479
getting if you if you're gonna complain
about audio, there are far far bigger

1567
01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:04.239
fish to fry and the the evaluation
of the words HD. Next email comes

1568
01:45:04.279 --> 01:45:08.600
in from Chase Martin, Bellevue,
Washington. Hey, John Bomb, I'm

1569
01:45:08.600 --> 01:45:11.960
supercited for the new version of NBA
Jam when it was a WEE exclusive,

1570
01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:14.479
I thought the day had come for
me to finally cave in and buy that

1571
01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:16.039
silly system. So, as you
can imagine, I was happy to hear

1572
01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:19.560
that it would be included in new
versions of NBA Elite eleven for the three

1573
01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:23.680
sixty p S three, so I
immediately rushed out and pre ordered NBA Elite.

1574
01:45:24.119 --> 01:45:27.399
Here's where you lot come in.
I am super confused about what that

1575
01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.800
NBA Elite version of NBA Jam will
be. I've looked looked for info but

1576
01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:33.359
have found it to be pretty scant. I know it will not have the

1577
01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:36.800
Remix Tour, but what about the
weird mini games like Domination. Do you

1578
01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:41.960
think the Elite version of Jam will
be totally stripped down and therefore just plain

1579
01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:45.319
shitty. I think I believe it's
just Classic Mode, which is just yo,

1580
01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:48.199
you want to play some basketball.
I don't think it has any of

1581
01:45:48.239 --> 01:45:53.520
the other stuff. So like Domination, like all those other modes are modes

1582
01:45:53.560 --> 01:45:58.760
that come out of the Remix Tour. Okay, so the EAPR was very

1583
01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:00.800
specific, like they wouldn't even all
this version a game. They called it

1584
01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:08.359
three modes out of NBA jam we
Yeah, so I'm still struggling with a

1585
01:46:08.439 --> 01:46:15.560
guy from the Pacific Northwest referring to
us as a lot Okay, it seems

1586
01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:23.760
like a pretty specific angloism to me. Calum O'Neill in Sydney, Australia.

1587
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:28.640
Yeah, hey, bomb cast Hello. I have only recently gotten into consoles

1588
01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:31.680
after mainly using PCs and was kind
of confused after trying to get my saves

1589
01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:36.239
off my Rose console and onto my
own that instead of using a cloud to

1590
01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:41.600
story your progress, it's just local. While it's not horrible, I'm trying

1591
01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:44.399
to that make sense that you looked
at me weird, Vinnie. Yeah,

1592
01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:46.479
he feeks it's weird that that he
had to move saves around on a physical

1593
01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:50.479
thing, that it's not using cloud
computing totally, because like how long has

1594
01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:55.880
cloud computing been doing saves on PCs? And like how many PC games actually

1595
01:46:55.960 --> 01:47:00.000
do that? Like not a huge
number. I think that's a lofty expectation.

1596
01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:03.560
Yeah, we will get there someday. I'm sorry. I mean that's

1597
01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:08.800
what threw me off, was the
expectation. Basically, the question is,

1598
01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:15.359
hey, what's up with cloud saves
all around? And it's like a five

1599
01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:19.960
game, you know, however,
many Torchlight I've still got a torch Light

1600
01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:25.359
character that I can't get into the
cloud, like if I don't know,

1601
01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:27.720
I mean, steam Cloud is weird. If it gets out of sync with

1602
01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:30.520
like your local files or whatever,
it can be tough to get them to

1603
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:34.600
update properly. Maybe we'll see it
on the PS three. Ever, I

1604
01:47:34.680 --> 01:47:38.399
don't know. It'd be cool.
I mean, whatever it'd be, it

1605
01:47:38.399 --> 01:47:42.560
would be a cool thing, especially
for us who we carry around our saves

1606
01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:45.000
around just three needs it? Yeah, I mean, how many people are

1607
01:47:45.039 --> 01:47:50.439
realistically moving between causoles. But yeah, like Xbox column here is and Xbox

1608
01:47:50.479 --> 01:47:54.600
is nice because you can save directly
to a thing. Yeah you know,

1609
01:47:55.159 --> 01:47:57.520
yeah he has three. You have
to copy stuff back and forth and some

1610
01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:00.000
files will go and like if one
compair of time stamps to figure out which

1611
01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:05.119
ones are which, and no,
it's it's problematic, and you know,

1612
01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:09.920
you think back, it's it wasn't
that long ago that that was the opposite.

1613
01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:13.520
I mean, you know, you're
you're metroid we madge. God,

1614
01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:16.159
that was the worst worst example of
that. Yeah, it's a real specific

1615
01:48:16.279 --> 01:48:19.560
case that normal people never would do. Most people aren't going to have to

1616
01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:24.199
do a video review and take footage
of most of the game after they buy

1617
01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:29.359
it. But Jesus, I employed
three separate SD cards and backing up save

1618
01:48:29.439 --> 01:48:30.760
files, and I watched two different
weeds at one time. It's right,

1619
01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:33.479
you had to. You had to
borrow my Wii, oh god, because

1620
01:48:33.520 --> 01:48:35.720
you needed more. And at one
point I saw you just I thought you

1621
01:48:35.760 --> 01:48:39.159
were losing your mind just staring at
your desk. I couldn't figure it out

1622
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:44.520
a pile of cars because I had
I had a sixteen megabyte, a one

1623
01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:47.199
gigabyte, and a two gigabyte card. They all had files across them.

1624
01:48:47.199 --> 01:48:50.520
There's no way of looking at the
memory management screens tell which files which.

1625
01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:56.079
There's no timestamp, no numbering scheme, no fucking anything. You have to

1626
01:48:56.159 --> 01:48:59.319
load the get you have to copy
the file to the Wii and then load

1627
01:48:59.399 --> 01:49:03.439
the game and then check what's in
it in the game. But if you

1628
01:49:03.479 --> 01:49:08.159
don't know what files are on the
cards and you need to back up the

1629
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:12.760
one on the system, like you
risk overwriting your progress just to see what's

1630
01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:15.640
on the fucking cards. So I
had to get your Wii use that copy

1631
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:21.600
to that one console future, Oh
my god, awful. But you know

1632
01:49:21.680 --> 01:49:25.720
it's maybe not our lifestyle that much, but you know, it wasn't that

1633
01:49:26.079 --> 01:49:30.159
long ago that you'd go to your
friend's house to fucking play games together or

1634
01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:31.960
to show him some part of some
game or whatever. So I don't think

1635
01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:36.520
it's too unreasonable to expect it to
be fairly portable when it comes to your

1636
01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:43.000
save files. So yeah, I
see the expectation, and I understand it,

1637
01:49:43.159 --> 01:49:46.279
especially if you know you're a younger
cat. You don't cloud cloud saves

1638
01:49:46.319 --> 01:49:49.439
on PCs seem like they've been going
on for a really long time. Really,

1639
01:49:49.840 --> 01:49:53.840
I'm saying, if you are that
young dude, and for whom that

1640
01:49:53.880 --> 01:49:56.359
seems like it's been going on for
a really long time, no matter of

1641
01:49:56.399 --> 01:50:00.760
perspective. Jesse from Germany. I
have recently have been working on my final

1642
01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:05.119
achievement in Fallout three. I have
never gotten an S rank on Giant Bomb,

1643
01:50:05.199 --> 01:50:09.920
though I held the one thousand point
mark in Halo three, but that

1644
01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:14.439
was before the DLC. I thought
to myself. I thought to myself,

1645
01:50:14.520 --> 01:50:17.520
of a way to describe this subjective
S rank I once held over a Halo

1646
01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:21.159
three and S rank I will soon
hold over fall three, And I propose

1647
01:50:21.439 --> 01:50:25.840
that achieving an S rank on retail
versions of a game be called a primitive

1648
01:50:25.960 --> 01:50:29.520
S rank, and that achieving an
S rank on a game after all DLC

1649
01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:34.520
is released be called a final S
rank. We've talked some about trying to

1650
01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:39.079
break up some of that stuff,
but I think it just leads to madness.

1651
01:50:39.279 --> 01:50:41.760
Yes, rank is an S rank. Yeah that's right. Either get

1652
01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:45.960
them all or don't get them.
But yeah, yeah, that's how the

1653
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:47.680
system is set up. Is you
got to You had to buy a thing

1654
01:50:47.720 --> 01:50:50.680
to get the S rank in the
first place, and some cases they're gonna

1655
01:50:50.680 --> 01:50:56.520
make you buy some more. That
S rank nine times out of ten.

1656
01:50:56.560 --> 01:50:58.159
I mean, if you like the
game enough to get all of them,

1657
01:50:58.199 --> 01:51:00.640
you're probably not gonna mind getting a
few more. Arty five is the one

1658
01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:04.960
weird outlier that fucking sucks is that
DLC, That first delC they put out

1659
01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:08.960
the multiplayer stuff, Like who in
their right mind? Yeah that sucks.

1660
01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:14.960
Next, Emil comes in from David
Kerr in Sunderland, England, with Microsoft's

1661
01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:17.000
Game room a flock, when with
Chrome Studios laying off staff, do you

1662
01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:20.600
think we will ever get to see
the Dreamcast games that they said would come

1663
01:51:20.680 --> 01:51:26.199
to Game Room? No, because
Sega is putting out Dreamcast games directly for

1664
01:51:26.359 --> 01:51:29.960
Xbox Live Arcade. Oh is that
what's happening? Yeah, so Adventure in

1665
01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:33.119
Crazy Taxi are just coming out as
XBLA games. Maybe somewhere down the road

1666
01:51:33.399 --> 01:51:42.239
you could see something like that.
But would you if they were just like

1667
01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:44.960
fuck game room, right, and
they were like, well, let's did

1668
01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:47.520
we have this code? Think?
Yeah, well that they're just like,

1669
01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:51.880
let's fuck Jeff. And they were
like, well, we have this code,

1670
01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:55.760
and then we have people who bought
it. We'll let you launch games

1671
01:51:55.880 --> 01:51:59.760
or something like let you pick your
arcade games that you bought through Xbox.

1672
01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:01.239
I haven't like set up a game
room there. Would you be interested in

1673
01:52:01.399 --> 01:52:05.119
that, like some kind of like
virtual interface to launch stuff? No,

1674
01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:10.920
I mean like destination arcade. I
don't know, something something, something a

1675
01:52:10.960 --> 01:52:14.960
little bit more useful. I don't
want. I don't want elaborate launchers at

1676
01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:18.159
all. I think better game game
room did not have all that avatar crap.

1677
01:52:18.239 --> 01:52:24.159
It would be better. Can't you
launch everything from the menu? You

1678
01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:28.399
can, but in cases where you
have bought all the games, there's no

1679
01:52:28.560 --> 01:52:32.319
easy indicator to figure out where the
new ones are. So so I just

1680
01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:36.960
placed the machines in my virtual arcade
as I buy them again. We are

1681
01:52:38.199 --> 01:52:43.239
we hear are exploring usage patterns that
the typical person will never experience. Yeah,

1682
01:52:43.319 --> 01:52:45.399
such as buying all of the games, such as buying any game room

1683
01:52:45.439 --> 01:52:49.680
games. Right, it would be
like last maybe you'll wait something like right.

1684
01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:53.800
This was just big social experiment.
Yeah. At the end, I'll

1685
01:52:53.840 --> 01:52:59.520
be a master of arcades. You'll
go to space, master of all you

1686
01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:04.960
survey, great, go and here
you go. It's a beat up berserk

1687
01:53:05.079 --> 01:53:11.479
machine. I don't really have room
for this. I'll take it. Put

1688
01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:15.359
it next to my beat up mister
command. Get trapped in, suck you

1689
01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:17.560
in. There'll be that dude,
all the arms out, arms out forever.

1690
01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:23.399
Terrible nightmare. I've lived that nightmare. I want to be there.

1691
01:53:24.760 --> 01:53:30.119
John from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Hey, guys, Well familiar this

1692
01:53:30.199 --> 01:53:34.560
time not using the hi the formal
bomb cast. Hey guys, I find

1693
01:53:34.600 --> 01:53:38.680
that when I play Super Street Fighter
four with my dual shot controller, the

1694
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:42.199
quarter circles I need to do for
a lot of moves are easier if I

1695
01:53:42.279 --> 01:53:45.159
am on the left side of the
screen facing right. Then if I am

1696
01:53:45.239 --> 01:53:48.520
on the right side of the screen
facing left. For some reason, my

1697
01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:53.680
thumbs move a lot slower if I'm
moving the joystick left A Am I the

1698
01:53:53.760 --> 01:53:57.279
only person that has this difficulty?
Or is this fairly common? B with

1699
01:53:57.439 --> 01:54:00.159
getting a fight stick solve this problem, Brad You you seemed to be nodding

1700
01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:04.560
knowingly during this question, not in
reference to this specific scenario. But that's

1701
01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:08.960
why I always played MK two on
the right side of the machine, like,

1702
01:54:09.119 --> 01:54:14.760
just yeah, I have the same
problem, and getting a fight stick

1703
01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:17.640
that does not help you, and
he doesn't make you better or make you

1704
01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:21.960
play the game anymore. It's just
now you have a fight stick. Yeah,

1705
01:54:24.159 --> 01:54:28.279
uh yeah. I was always better
from left facing right than right facing

1706
01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:30.199
left. And I always got really
afraid too when somebody jumped over me and

1707
01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:32.720
I was on the episode, Oh
shit, I just gotta work to get

1708
01:54:32.760 --> 01:54:35.800
back on the other side. I
just gotta curl up into a ball until

1709
01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:40.880
he like jumps over me again.
That's really It's something I'd never considered.

1710
01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:43.680
But yeah, I guess that's a
total It's all just execution. You just

1711
01:54:43.760 --> 01:54:46.960
need to practice. Yeah, I'm
just bad. That's pretty much what it

1712
01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:51.439
is. But don't but you're saying, Vinny that buying a stick is not

1713
01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:56.199
necessarily the best first step here.
I think if, like Jeff said,

1714
01:54:56.239 --> 01:54:59.319
if it gets you to practice more, then you'll probably get over it.

1715
01:54:59.439 --> 01:55:04.520
But it's not like a it's just
a motion thing. Just do more hurricane

1716
01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:08.479
kicks. When you're on the other
side. It's the same, but it's

1717
01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:12.319
different. It's weird, all right. Last email, This comes from Landon

1718
01:55:12.359 --> 01:55:15.680
Smith on the July first, two
thousand and eight podcasts to use the road

1719
01:55:15.720 --> 01:55:18.399
and asking what's up with Vinny?
It's been two years since Vinnie left us

1720
01:55:18.439 --> 01:55:23.079
with I'll get back to you on
that. Has Vinnie or anyone at Giant

1721
01:55:23.119 --> 01:55:27.640
Bomb figured this out yet? So
what is up with Vinny? He's still

1722
01:55:27.680 --> 01:55:30.880
working on it. I'll go back
to you, all right, check back

1723
01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:34.520
in a little bit later. Landon, Ah, that's a free emails.

1724
01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:39.039
Thanks everyone who wrote in BombCast at
giant bomb dot com is once again that

1725
01:55:39.199 --> 01:55:43.720
email address and thus brings us gentle
them to the end of our show.

1726
01:55:44.720 --> 01:55:46.760
I would like to thank mister Brad
Nicholson for joining us again. Brad,

1727
01:55:47.239 --> 01:55:51.840
I hope you enjoy your time out
here on the Westy's actually and uh and

1728
01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:58.840
yeah, and keep making news and
Vinnie keep squishing your face. We have

1729
01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:04.119
a Packs this week, Paxes this
weekend. Giant Bombs Packs panel happening Friday

1730
01:56:04.199 --> 01:56:10.760
night, Pegasus Theater, starting at
eight thirty pm and then go eight thirty.

1731
01:56:12.079 --> 01:56:15.479
Yeah. I've been telling people,
let's probably want to show up.

1732
01:56:16.800 --> 01:56:19.279
Get in line. It is,
it is. We are off site.

1733
01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:24.439
We are not in the convention center. We are in the hotel near the

1734
01:56:24.479 --> 01:56:28.479
convention center. Registration and all that
stuff happen. I think it's a Hyatt,

1735
01:56:29.720 --> 01:56:31.680
but I can't remember what that packs
looks like because all I can remember

1736
01:56:31.760 --> 01:56:34.840
is packs East. Now I'm like, oh, I know where that hotel

1737
01:56:34.880 --> 01:56:38.239
is this attached to the Oh wait, you will be You will be reminded

1738
01:56:38.279 --> 01:56:41.720
soon enough. Jeff, We're leaving
here Friday morning, bright end early.

1739
01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:48.520
Yeah, crash on some bean bags
for the day always and then the following

1740
01:56:48.600 --> 01:56:55.199
week is Yes, Thursday is September
the ninth, the Whiskey Media Big Live

1741
01:56:55.239 --> 01:57:00.439
Live Show Live. Holy crap is
right, Vinny, So stay tuned for

1742
01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:03.720
that and T and T This week
again is UMK three for the Xbox Live

1743
01:57:03.800 --> 01:57:08.479
Ricade and MK two for PlayStation Network. If you want to get on that,

1744
01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:15.239
play some rib Cage Assassins with Flying
Back special to play that. That's

1745
01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:17.319
right, Jeff is Jeff is leaving
and then coming back. I go play

1746
01:57:17.399 --> 01:57:23.119
Call of Duty Black Ops multiplayer.
Oh snat in Los Angeles. We'll come

1747
01:57:23.119 --> 01:57:25.520
back and tell us all about it. I guess if you can. Yeah,

1748
01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:29.239
there's no I will probably telling people
about it while I'm there. Okay,

1749
01:57:29.399 --> 01:57:32.800
So I feel like Wednesday night I
should mention on Thursday for our big

1750
01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:40.760
live live show live you could you
can come join us after six o'clock.

1751
01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:47.199
I think upstairs there's gonna be a
big street party happening on in the neighborhood.

1752
01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:50.840
We'll have more information on that.
That's right. So that's coming.

1753
01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:54.159
But just so you know, if
you want to come and party with us

1754
01:57:54.680 --> 01:57:57.920
and our twenty one, I think
you might be able to get in.

1755
01:57:58.039 --> 01:58:00.680
If you're not, I don't know. There's no in right, it's just

1756
01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:02.399
on the street. It is a
block party. But there will be alcohol

1757
01:58:02.479 --> 01:58:05.079
there. I think have beer gardens
and stuff like that. Probably. There's

1758
01:58:05.119 --> 01:58:10.079
so many permits. Yeah, try
to do something in San Francisco. Crap

1759
01:58:10.279 --> 01:58:13.760
or having to go to like hearings. Just say, Melissa have a podcast

1760
01:58:13.880 --> 01:58:15.920
about permits. When we talked to
her about that later. But for now

1761
01:58:15.960 --> 01:58:19.359
we're gonna sign off and this podcast. Thanks you guys for sitting with me,

1762
01:58:19.479 --> 01:58:25.720
and be sure to come back next
week for another edition of The Giant Podcasts