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toiletside the Wall, I gotta bring something up when somebody there. There's somebody
who's gonna be coming into the studio later in the show, and I think
when I when I called them, they confirm they were on the shitter,
but I don't know, and I didn't ask, and they didn't dawn on
me until I hung up. I go, I think they were on the
butt. And we've gotten to a world now where we don't let it just
go like you know, or just shoot back up like I think your phone
automatically gives you a pre written text that says, I'm I'll call you right
back. I'll call you right back back. I'll call you back back.
Yeah, so you could just do that. Well, they needs to change
it too. I'm taking a dump. You always seem to call me in
the morning, and I'm taking one every every time. Well the best was
when Danny. Danny's in there and Danny's flooding. When Javison goes she's just
taking a shit. Yeah I was. He wasn't hung up yet, Yeah
I was. Why, Yeah, well that's what That's what happened. Danny
getting ready for the big show. Yeah, Saturday, how's this sound?
Everything good? It sounds sounds good. I don't sounds strong to quite strong,
strong to quite strong? Your now your voice sounds a little oh yeah,
because I I you try pelting led Zepplin. It's not easy. Do
you need some water? What can we do? Y'all? Get some water
in a second. I'm good good, So yeah, so eight o'clock Saturday
night, tap at Scottsville Road. Tapp it in Scottsville Road. Don't know
yet. I'm good. I'm gonna pick up foodie and I think I'm gonna
I'm gonna double check with him and we're gonna head out. Cool. Yeah
kay, dog, you're coming, don't ye don't know? Yes, he
is, He's already. We're working on Its possibility, Yeah, cool,
it's possible. Kevin is a lot going on in this word. There might
be five people there. Kevin's got it. No, they get they get
a good crowd. Man, the R I T kids show up. It's
around the corner. A lot of people are curious about this family project,
vanity project. Yeah. Yeah, Kevin is a lot going on. And
he sent me some screenshots from a Facebook page. His son is a freshman
at Quinnipiac was on the pot. Did you send this while you're on the
sucking smell isn't here? That's what it was you're printing? Yeah, uh
so Kevin sends this to me and I don't I've seen this with other colleges.
I don't know if that. They probably have it for my son and
I have never looked at it. Never want you should investigate. It's a
parent. Is it a parent? It's like a parent's board. Yeah.
You can ask different questions or make comments. Can the kids get on there?
I don't believe. I assume they could join it wanted to, but
I would I would have totally like you would have as a junior, like
when I was a little more seasoned, I would have totally done that.
And then because well not just troll, but so Kevin sends me some things
and it says, here's one post concerned about the level of partying going on
each weekend. It appears as though my child leaves the room for class and
clubs and nothing else concerned. He's not getting involved on camp suggestions welcome,
and I'm going, Man, if that were if I saw that and I
recognized the last name and it was somebody on my floor, I am printing
it. I am making copies, and I am hanging it at every possible
into the walls. A thing that's going too far? You mean, that's
just going to be awesome. Kids probably like so they really juicy ones are
always anonymous member. Well this is always this is an anonymous anonymous member.
But what do you mean that's going too far? The embarrassed the kid for
clearly they're not leaving the room for a reason. They got type, they're
leaving to the concerned about the level of partying going on each weekend, but
my child leaves the room for class and clubs and nothing else. Oh,
I thought you meant like the okay clubs like that? Yeah, okay,
like going out dancing clubs, dan, okay, person going to see if
the person was sitting in the room all the time. I'm not picking on
it, Okay, No, that's not me. But if I saw that,
like some of my buddy who I go out party with every Friday night
and his mom are dead, Hey, lou hey post this. I'm hanging
it everywhere, going hey man, mom's all nervous, and then I'm parents
weekend, I'd be like, your son is so much fun. The thing
is, it's it's for the freshman parents, and I'm like, this is
just freshman. It's their most of these kids, it's their first time away
from home on their own, yes, doing what they want to do.
The kid's going to class. Let's let's just let that go. He's going
to class. It's the first taste of freedom, right, It's the first
real taste of freedom. And the one I thought that what was kind of
interesting was another post Kevin SMI and it says, good morning, my son
is a freshman and our first to go to college. Babies left the nest.
He's on the top food plan and says everything is expensive. Now,
how does the food plan work? It's you buy whatever paints at the beginning
of the semester of the year, and some things like you know, you
want to a subway sub or something that's ten points or whatever it is,
okay, and then it just comes out of your account. But you've prepaid
for so many points. So this kid's on the top. He's on the
top food plan. Uh we okay, he's on the top food plan and
says everything is expensive. We don't want him to be hungry and have stocked
up on snacks, but want to give him cash just in case he needs
to buy more food. Any suggestions and how much cash we should give him
per week? Thanks? This This is the biggest bunch of bullshites. This
is such a scam, you dumb fucks. You're how do these parents not
know? Now? Did your parents did not go to college? No?
Did your parents go to college? My parents? My parents went to college,
So my parents were kind of new. Not not that I'm not saying
one way or the other parents went to college or not. My point is,
like, my I went to Fisher, my dad went to Fisher.
My parents came up for parents weekend. My dad had beers stuffed in his
sock and his waistband walking down before on so long before you have the magazine
of beers like across his chest and MBO. He didn't, but if he
thought of it, he would have. You know, he had all this
and he was all about you partying and all about having a great time,
and he was reliving his glory days. At one point they had a casino
night in the in the main hall. Yeah, and Carney in the front
and uh, if somebody comes in and goes, dude, your parents are
rolling around in the grass making out. They loved each other. Yeah,
my mom and dad, you know my dad. What happened, I don't
know, but I would I would kill the relift like one week of college.
Yeah. But so my my point with this one is one these people
are naive, right because the kid doesn't need more money for food, and
if he does, it's like the oldest trick in the college book. Yeah.
So one of the parents, I just actually pulled this back up,
one of the parents coming that I have had the money to the grades.
Since she is in her first semester, we'll give her four hundred dollars a
month for grades. After the first semester is a three six, then it
goes to three sixty. I'm paying for performance, and since it's once a
month, it encourages proper budgeting. If they buy too much Starbucks at the
start of the month, then they'll be by a month. Then they'll be
reusing get bags. Well, here's the other thing. That was kind of
my point when I thought of this, because you gotta draw the line at
some point, because you're enabling this kid to be here responsible. So this
is college if nothing else, is a nice way to wade into adulthood.
You know what I mean. You're not jumping off the ledge and all of
a sudden you're in the deep end, trying to figure out credit cards and
rent and car insurance and all this stuff. You're able to sort of wade
your way in even if mom and dad aren't pay say you have student loans
and things. It's still a way to wade in. Right you're not.
You still have some time and some safety and some that. But so but
this is it ago. I'm gonna send more money. Well when I when
I went to school, maybe it was different. I don't know how it
worked with you, bill, but like when you paid tuition, everything was
included, right if you wanted to buy more food than you could have to
pay for that out of your own pocket. Yeah, but like like we
hit you had fourteen meals a week. The most people didn't go for breakfast
unless it was Saturday or Sunday. And so when you use those meals,
it was it was gone and you had reaching your own pocket. And my
father made sure that I was working like forty fifty hours a week during the
summertime to pay for any extra expenses that he didn't have to pay for that
came out of me. There was no sending me money unless I was like,
hey, Dad, you know I overextended myself this year because I didn't
drink much at all. Actually, and so we we've documented this. I
made it Jesus. But Dad, like i'd be driving the Billy Moran around.
Hey, Hey, yeah, here's so we're care get a plate.
Yeah sure, okay, I'll pay for it then we get there. Actually,
I'm not gonna pay for it. I just wanted to use you to
get to the marks. I'm like, oh, thanks, they wouldn't buy
you a plate? Oh yeah, that happened multiple times. Didn't leave them
there. Yes, I'm saying that's what I would have done. It was
Jesus, It wasn't my car. I was driving other people's cars and stuff
because I didn't have a car in campus my freshman year. I would have
taken it back and lift in the parking lot. So in fact, one
time, one time they told me, hey, you could park behind this
right by Marx Texas Hot And I'm like, no you can't. They oh
yeah you can, Like no you can't. Yeah you. So the car
got towed and guess who had to pay the fine? Why? Because the
kids are assholes that's why. Oh my god, I wanted to paid it.
Yeah, are these people see me? You are so nice? You're
just so nice? Right, No, Dan knew the rules. We were
drunk, Like I can knew the rules that we were drunk. That was
the explanation. Never forgot that. But yeah, do you still talk to
these people? No? Man, Danny, you needed a parent block.
There was so suggestions when I was really to just be a troll on this
as a as a parent, how about the flip side, like the kids
whose parents like, really, baby the hell out of them. Right.
So I was a mentor for calm students going into my junior year. So
I had two students and I had to write them a letter of what to
expect. So the first student, I wrote, yeah, I should have
said that, but but this was like in the calm department, so I
couldn't say anything about the calm department. But so I wrote two letters,
the same letter to both students. One was a girl. She read it,
She's like, yeah, this is what my parents and I expected that.
The other one, I get a phone call from a professor to you
and I both know female professor who was the chair of the department, right,
who was freaking out about the letter. I wrote why because the student
on the other ends mother was a funny duddy who thought, oh, I
sent my son to a Catholic school. I can't believe that this is gonna
happen. It's gonna be alcohol there, and it's gonna be parties, and
I can't believe. I said, hey, look, you could spend your
I go if you're if you're I told them everything you need to know as
a freshman coming in which you get late. I didn't tell him about the
bar. I just said, hey, look, you know you could spend
your time in your studies, but there's time to go out and party.
But you got to make sure you could do your work or you're not gonna
make it in this in this in this major, right, here's what to
expect. Well, they thought it was like this pure Catholic school where everybody
wore shirts and ties to class and blah blah blah blah blah. And when
I wrote, when I brought the letter to this professor, she was like,
oh, this is this is harmless, Like why did you and doctor
Seward our friends took up for me and said, Dan would never write anything
malicious. Why did you assume that? We think she looks at a volity
end of my name. But anyway, the point is no. It had
to do with the fact that if somebody's parents freaked out right and you don't
want to lose a potential student, it's money. Here's what happens, and
he still made the Hall of Fame. Here's what happened. This kid tried
out for the football team and he didn't make it. His mother calls the
football coaches and asks if she could buy a jersey for him to wear with
pad and helmet on the sideline so he feels like he's part of the team.
You don't have to play him, just let him be part of the
team. Oh my god. Yeah, he ended up leaving after one semester.
He was just he was just a bitch. Doesn't everybody pretty much make
the team in D three? No, no, no, no, that's
not how it works. No, you have to actually have talent. I
think it was when I college teams, like some of these D one teams
carry one hundred and two, one hundred and fifty kids. Half of him
don't play. Yeah, yeah, I don't. You have to have some
level of talent. They're not gonna waste their time because when you travel,
I thought it was eighty five or something. I'm fisher. Was there eighty
five kids? I'm fit. I think it's many as ninety nine or No,
you could have a one hundred and twenty, but only like ninety nine
could be active and something like sixty five on the road. Yeah, and
that those are like you know, NC DOUBA rules because they don't want to
pay for all these hotels and everything. Else. Yeah, so but yeah,
well I would just say, if your kids going to college, let
him be a kid and don't right let him, let him learn that that's
what college is. Life. Run out of money, they're not gonna starve.
Yeah, for God's sake, don't get it us. Don't be stupid.
Have fun, have fun. I used to get so angry, burnout
of money, burnout of money. It's like it's so mad with these sets
scholarship athletes who cry the blues that they're broken. Like, dude, come
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to Victor Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram. This weekend is the Gerald Hares Memorial Race
and Justin Harris from Phelps End Products is on the line. And this is
a big weekend. The final race weekend Atlanta Legends Race Away in Canadegua and
the fifth annual Gerald Hares Memorial Race weekend. Yeah yeah, they made this
race kind of a special race after my dad passed away, you know,
four years ago actually, But this is the fifth running of it, and
they passed away in July. So the first year passed away, we had
the first first annual running of it and it's been to the big success every
year. You know, cars and people from all over kind of come.
That's the last race at Land of Legends for the year and looks like it's
going to be a great weekend for it too. What was your dad's involvement
in racing at Land of Legends or just in general. Well, you know,
from a young age he always he wanted to race, but his his
father wouldn't let him, so he, uh, he owned cars when he
was able to get enough money together to to own him. So he said,
well, if I can't drive him, I want to own him.
So he owned cars for a number of years and had you know, some
of the top drivers you know in the area drive for him. You know,
some notable even you know Jeff Bodine drove one of his cars before and
Mike McLaughlin really yeah, Don McCready, Danny Johnson, Alan Johnson, just
a lot of the a lot of the you know, top guys. He
was affiliated with a gentleman named Billy Taylor, and my dad was a sponsor
on his car for a number of years. And then when I got old
enough to you know, I always from a young age I can waring to
race, and when I was at the age thought I was mature enough to
get started, we got started in go karts and then uh, and here
we are, no, you know, thirty years later, I guess racing.
All right, Well, we'll take me back a little bit. When
when you see your dad bought cars. Were they traditional stock cars that we
know in terms of let's say, what people see in in NASCAR, Jeff
Bodin being being a driver in that series or was this more the sprint cars
and things that that you were doing. No, the car that Jeff Bodin
drove that my dad was an owner of section my grandfather and my dad owned
it. They were called dirt ash fallt cars, so they were similar the
cars were racing now, but they were specifically made to run on the ash
fall. Back in the early nineties, they had a series that ran all
over from you know, a swe Go to Nazareth, Pennsylvania up in Canada
pretty much the northeast kind of ran all over about eight or nine different racists
throughout the year and Uh, so the car that my dad had and Billy
Taylor was a crew chief, and you know, they would always try to
seek out, like, you know, one of the top guys and they
would go out and uh, you know, just try to win the race.
So that's how they got kind of hooked up with Jeff Blodon and Mike
McLoughlin and you know they Doug Hoffman won a number of races for him also,
so that was that's uh, that's kind of how they how we got
started in the ashballs. So all these people you were exposed to as a
young kid. Yeah, we used to you know, take off in the
summer and you know, go to you know, make a long weekend and
go to you know, Open Quebec to the races or even around here.
And yeah, I was exposed to at a young age and kind of kind
of knew that's kind of what I wanted to do. And uh and then
basically the you know, the dirt around here has just become so much more
popular than the ashball stuff, so we just kind of turned our focus on
the dirt. Who who was the biggest influence on you? I mean those
are some I mean, you know, you you just name dropped. I
don't mean it like that, but I'm just saying, like you dropped some
pretty big names, which are people that you had access to who were very
successful at all levels of racing. So I'm just wondering who had the biggest
influence on you. Was it one of these guys or was it your dad?
I don't I'm not, you know, it's hard. It's probably my
dad, just because he had such a passion, was such a passion for
it, and uh so I always wanted to be like, well, you
know, if he's spend the money on and these other guys going on around,
good, hopefully I can I can fill a seat and be able to
to uh, you know, watch you know. He was always you know,
that's what he would care about, was you know, work the business
and racing was a hobby. If he uh yeah, he tried to find
a race, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, didn't murder where
it was him. My mom would travel to go watch races. So it
was a big, big part of our family. Was your mom a big
fan as well? Sometimes that you all of us, right, no matter
what, are significant other, we sort of take on their hobby so to
speak even with guys. Sometimes you have to sit down and watch a I
don't know, a romantic comedy or something like that. But was your your
mom a big I mean I'm sure she. I have seen her out at
the race track, so I know that she goes to this day and supports
you. What is she a big fan? Well, yeah, yeah she
was. You know, they you could spot them at a track together.
They were always together, so she was always a big, big fan of
them. Yeah, that's got to be pretty special for you because you've had
a lot of success. You're the track champion for the third year in a
row at Land of Legends. Yeah, it's uh, it's it's definitely,
it's it's it's pretty cool. Yeah, to win three in a row,
there's only been Uh. I think I was a third one to ever win
three in a row in the history there, which is something to be pretty
proud of. And that's you know, I'm very thankful, that's for sure.
Yeah. I mean I'm sure you are. Did your dad see the
success you were having? You know, I know that you said he passed
four years ago. Uh, but was he around to see some of the
success. Had you been a track champion prior or just winning races that he
was able to be part of that. Yeah, I was a trade champion
in a couple of different classes prior, Like I was a trade champer of
the Sportsman division there at Land of Legends, and then I won the three
fifty eight champion at WEIG four and you know, he was alive for that,
but but never a big block one. We tied Matt Shepherd in twenty
seventeen Atlanta Legends. But they consider, however, many wins who had the
most wins as a champion. So he had two more wins than me that
year, Shepherd, so he was considered a champion, but I was kind
of considered as a tie. But but yeah, he seemed you know,
me win my first superter Series race up in Brockville, Ontario, Canada,
and we won two Dirk Car Winternationals in Florida, which are some of the
toughest races to win. We won two of those. So he was he
was. He never missed a race. I mean it didn't matter. We
would we'd drive, you know, six seven hours you know, to a
race and then come back home the night. And he was right behind the
trailer every step of the way. Yeah, that sounds like it was really
a family event and a bonding thing for your entire family. Racing. Yeah,
you know, certainly has. You know, my my sister is married
to a gentleman. They raced for a number of years and it's just a
whole definitely a family, family affair. Hang on a second. Did he
race in the same class as you raced? Yeah? Yeah, I've actually
raced against him for probably I don't number a number of years. He was
He was pretty successful a couple of years ago. Hang on, Justin,
did you beat him? He beat me and I beat him. Did you
ever drive him off the track just just because he pissed you off? And
you know that's my chol But I always, I always did race extra cautious
around them and nah, so that's uh, it's always in the back of
your mind. You know, you got to be extra caust sure if you
don't want to cause any problems in family. Yeah, I understand. How
would your dad feel if you went around and introduced yourself as you know,
the first thing you say, Hi, I'm a three time Land of Legends
dirt track champion, Justin Harrison. I think that should be your opening line
to people, I think it is. I think it's impressive as hell because
that's a sport that I mean, man, I've watched those things. It's
it's pretty tough. Yeah, I mean it goes a lot of ups and
downs and a lot of things. You so we've have been very fortunate to
win three in a row, and it's uh, you know, like I
said, yes, you know, well, my dad he would be you
know, he always had a smile on his face and uh, he would
definitely definitely be uh you know, super happy if he was here. Yeah,
I'm sure. Does your whole family come out, the kids and everybody
for this big race? Yeah, definitely. You know they're pretty much there
every week too. Yeah, this is a you know, a deal where
you know a lot of cars. You know that's ten thousand to win.
There's I think over one hundred thousand dollars in purse money between the whole weekend
going on. It's a it's a huge race, and you know there will
be you know, friends that I haven't seen in years, and you know,
just people fans, family as people come from pretty much all over.
They start camping tomorrow night. Yeah, there's some qualifying races and stuff tomorrow
night, and not for our division, but other classes. So it's a
it's the biggest weekend of the year for racing in the Finger Lakes for you
know, Dirk Carr I would say, yeah, it's it's a good it's
gonna be a good time and let's say weather's gonna be gray and looking forward
to seeing a lot of people out there. Yeah, because I see that
the grand stands will open tomorrow or tonight excuse me, at five because we're
taping this and we'll we'll drop it in, so five o'clock and then the
hot laps will start at six thirty in the heats kick off at seven to
fifteen, and then on Saturday, grand stands open at four. And it
looks like the heats beginning at six oh five, right after the anthems at
six. Yeah, it's a one hundred lap race, so it's an endurance
race. You know, you gotta it's a lot save your stuff and be
there at the end. And you know, typically I'm a Saturday, we're
only racing thirty laps, so it's you know, it's a lot longer,
a lot longer race, a lot more stuff can happen. A lot of
traffic, you know earlier it's it's a good time. Yeah, how do
you prepare for that? Because that is it's like three times as long as
the traditional races you're doing on the on the weekends at Land of Legends.
Yeah, I mean the biggest thing is trying to guess what the track's going
to do over the course of when you start the race to when you finish
it, because obviously we're on dirt, so it just gets a lot slicker,
and you have to make sure your car is good enough at the beginning
to I like to say, irrelevant and then be better and everybody at the
end. Do you change tires at any point during the race? No?
No, no changeing tires, no fuel anything like that A hundred laughs.
Is about just about the match. You can go on fuel, okay,
okay, so then yeah, so it's just basically just drop the hammer and
go Yeah. Well not that easy. You just go like that early on
you usually bring your stuff up, and then by the end of the race
you kind of yeah, you know, I just all over the place,
can't get ahold of the track. So it's it's definitely patience, but also
being being aggressive and patient at the same time, you know, as as
a guy who's had success and certainly as you know, three time track champion
at Landed Legends, do you practice. Do you ever go out and just
do some laps just to get a feel for the track on an off day
or just kind of get feel behind the car, or do maybe half fifty
laps or something just to get the feel of sitting in the car that long.
And it's a different style card, it's a different you know, I'm
sure you're feeling every bump and as you go along. It's a lot on
your body. Yeah. No, Unfortunately they don't have a ton of you
know, practice things to go practice, but you know, I've done a
long enough I kind of know what to do to prepare. You know,
we actually the first week in October at a swego on the dirt. It's
a two hundred lapper, so that's our longest race of the year. So
you know, something like that. You're got pit stops and all that,
and you know, you're just typical stuff like being an athlete. You know,
you hydrate yourself and stretch and if you're sitting in a tight compartment for
you know, two two and a half hours possibly different and how many cautions
it is so cramps are a big thing that could happen, and you know
you just just prepare yourself like like as if you're an athlete. Yeah,
well this is a it's a great race. It's the last one at Land
of Legends for the twenty twenty three season, fifth annual Gerald Hare's Memorial.
It's Friday night and then again Saturday night. You'll see Justin racing on Saturday
night, the hundred lap race. Good luck with everything man. Yeah,
and if you don't get a chance to make it out. It is a
free live streamed on Laying the Legends TV. And that's strong. Just a
huge crowd from you know, I have friends and family that live out of
state watch every every Saturday night. And it's good for the audience stuff.
Yeah, you know, it's free and you can watch it from the living
room your own home. That's uh, it is great. They do a
really nice job. Land of Legends TV. Thank you Justin and good luck
all right. Thanks still Iron Smoke Distillery. You know I love going home
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Yes we do. Week two, billiates al right, Week two getting
underway. So I bring this up because we heard about it last night as
we were doing the podcast, and then it seems to have taken on a
little bit more a life of its own today. And it's Bill's reporter Mattie
gab Or Glab Glab and Maddie is a Bill's employee. Yes, she works
for the team. She works for the team. And she was asked,
I can play you the the audiot, just step on. He does what
he wants to do. That Okay, he'll look in my face and say,
f you. How everybody was he late for the for the press conference?
I don't know these guys. She was joking around on a hot mica.
But see here's the thing, He's like, I don't even I always
think of a hot mic like you've got a lapelon and you should know better.
Now clearly here, I've spent all day for whatever reason, I spent
an hour today thinking about this, and I go, what's really going on
here? What's what's the real thing? Like was this being fed out over
the internet and somebody watching because that's hard to hear. I mean, I
jacked the ship out of that audio for us to hear it. So what's
really going on here? What's the real thing? Because I'm going if I
if somebody goes, hey, the Bills are gonna be doing their press conference,
right they put out a tweet or something. I check in, you're
not hearing that through your computer speakers. There's no fun in way, right,
So somebody put that out there, and I don't think to get her
in trouble. I almost feel like to spotlight what a diva Stephan Diggs is.
I mean, I want in a way, it was just all the
reporters waiting the press microphones are on because they're just not you know what though,
like they have they have employees, but like there's there. They all
have multiple jobs. So someone if they set the camera up, the MIC's
alive. They tested it out, yeah, and they forgot to turn it
off and it's running and they're waiting for like McDermott the gime. No,
I'm sure. I mean we've seen it all the time where you log it
into a press conference and you can see it. Yeah, Like whoever like
grab that screen, grab that clip and send it out is trying to make
her or stuff look bad. Well that's what I'm saying. And I go,
does it make her look bad? Because she really didn't say anything bad.
She just said I'm not going in there because he's gonna tell me to
get the f out of his face? Who doesn't You can hear the other
person she's talking to kind of chuckling about it. Yeah, but who who
doesn't talk behind their employees back right or coworkers. Everybody's all in a way.
And I don't think what she said was that bad because I'm going Steve,
he's the F word. She does a podcast with I think she does
a podcast with Hide, not a weekly basis, So she's got a relationship
with the players. Yeah. So that's my question is how does it get
out? And that's I thought. At first, I thought, well,
maybe someone's trying to sabotage her, and then I thought, I don't know.
And she puts out this apology and you and I like saw it late
last night during was I want to take ownership of what I said today,
I'm very sorry for what I said. I meant no ill will. I
respect the hell out of Stefan Diggs and he has been one of my favorite
players to cover. He has great character and treats us media with lots of
respect. I bet he doesn't. I bet he doesn't. And the only
thing that it is is there now we have a consistent pattern of step Stefan
Digg's behavior from multiple sources. We heard about him getting pissed off and not
showing up to camp. We heard about whatever happened at the end of last
season. We see him sort of he's being called out for patting uh Josh
Allen on the head, which all right, he was pumping everybody up.
That is there some kind of I don't know here and it is it?
Is there something that to this or not? I don't think so, because
if somebody's trying to make stuff look bad, it might be the media,
or it might be some jackass on Twitter. But honestly, it does the
bills no good to do that, or anybody inside the organization to do that,
because you're locked in with this kind you gotta pay him. So why
would anybody want this out? So is it indicative of a larger problem within
the organization? That's that's my question. I don't think it's your reslation at
all. I think it's just some stupid reporter trying to start something, all
right. I mean a lot of reporters like start stuff like a couple of
years ago. Well, I don't want to get into all of it,
but like report, every once in a while a reporter will like try to
what they call gain clouds by putting something out there instead of confronting the person
face to face like a man or a woman. They'll put it on social
media and eventually they'll lose their job. Our buddy Bull lost his job because
of because of a co worker saying something in a Bill's Beat reporter. Instead
of being a man, I got confronting the guy. I put it on
Twitter, so you'll lose your job. And they placed this. They placed
this, dude, they all lost their jobs. Your buddy Peters on the
line. I love Peter. Peter's the greatest college football player in s Fisher
history. Defensive player. Here's a defensive vent slash linebacker. He's hybrid.
And if there's a wall of fame, they put him on it. Yeah.
Does this stuff with Stephan Diggs bother you at all? Peter as a
Bills fan. By the way, checks in the mail, Dann, thank
you, checks in the mail. Didn't following me. I don't know,
Bill, I you know, it's one of these things on the heels of
the Terry Fagoula quote and all this pleasy that's happening inside when Bill's dry.
I don't know how serious it is. I don't know how you know,
behidn it is. I just think it's, like like you said, I
often we talked about in the past when you get apologies, you know,
apologies are who are they written by? But it seems like, you know,
she's she seems pretty since here in her apology. I think this is
just somebody saying something like anybody would behind Hey, hey, go get Dan.
I don't feel like getting screamed at you go get Dann. If we
do it here before we go on, if I have the camera early,
people might hear you or me busting on Dan, or Dan busting on you
or me. It's we're just that's not But my point is the fact that
it got out when it's their controlled media, right, it's the bills control
all that stuff, and they are tight lipped with everything. They keep it
brilliant zero. Right. Yeah, he's responded, dis responded on Twitter,
and yet he said, you know how much you hurt him, and it's
just another distraction in a week where you don't need distraction, right, just
another one. He I mean, I do think the guy's a diva a
little bit, here's no question. Okay, So but the bigger thing this
week, and Peter, I mean, Josh Allen is becoming as well known
for his erroneous plays as he is for his laser passes and his leaps over
defenders. What did you see on the tape? Because I have a theory,
but I don't. I didn't look at the tape the way you did.
I mean, Bill, Yeah, I'm looking at the tape with Josh
Allen this week. It's frustrating. There's an old adage in football. It's
when you watch the tape, nothing is that watched the game. Nothing is
ever as good as it seems, and nothing is ever as bad as it
seems. Well, this week it was. It was a little tough for
Josh and I don't want to put all the blame on him. I'll give
you a specific example of one play was in the first quarter when it was
third and fifteen for the Bills. They were on I think the thirty five
yard line and they had to check it down too. I believe it was
Damian Harris, but it was. It was well blocked up front. Josh
Ellen rolled over to the right hand side and if Dawson Knox runs the right
route, it is a touchdown. And you see on filled where Josh Ellen
uses his hand to kind of direct not he broke to the sideline where you
should have broke to the middle of the field, and the way the Jets
had the coverage wide touchdown, Josh got to throw off his back foot touchdown
and then I check it down the Bill. So it's one little play like
that in the game that's so close that makes such a difference. But to
answer your question, I'd love to hear your theory, Bill, because I
feel like all week long off season you hear Josh was gonna play with himself.
Get the ball in your hands, throw it, throw a threat.
He's doing that right, but he's having like a mental tug of war.
This isn't my game. I gotta throw the ball. It's like having a
soda bottle in your hand and you're shaking up that soda bottle. At some
point you want to open that soda bottom up. And he's having a mental
tug of war with what everybody's telling him he should do and what he wants
to do. You see it in the runs. You know what they said,
we got to slide, get out of it. Just he wants to
take a hit. That's his game, that's who he is. That's interesting
because and exactly, and then there's a piece of me that says, please
don't coach that completely out of him, because those I mean, look that
toss where he ran up right to the line and then it looked like he
was going to run into the end zone and instead he tosses the pass and
he was still had his back foot behind the line. Yeah, that wasn't
a play that he designed. They did not design coach that. No,
those are the things I don't want to see coached out of this guy.
And on the other hand, my thing was like I felt like he was
getting so frustrated and impatient that he's like, well, fuck it, I'm
just going to do it my way and just went in old school agreed.
And I think watching this and you could see it too during the broadcast,
I think Josh needs a coach on the sideline. I understand that Dorsey is
he the guy to do it. You know, there is his backup quarterback.
That's where I love having veterans his backup quarterbacks that I've done it before.
Bill, take a flyer and get Joe Flacco as on the field,
give him, give a roster spot just to be that guy on the sideline
and the guys on the sidelines to help Josh Allen. I don't know if
that's the case, but having a guy on the sideline helps the guy like
that. Josh is still he's still young, let's say six years in the
league. But yeah, we shouldn't be at a point now. If you're
a Bills fan and you're a part of the buff of the Bills organization,
you hear what he says after the game, and Danny, I think I
said this to you. It sounded great six years ago after the Houston playoff
game. It does not sound great anymore after Week one versus the Jets.
No, it's the same thing. I heard an interesting thing on FS one
today. Joe Burrow went and got a haircut. Joe Burrow had the worst
game of his career last week. He was termed. A lot of people
said that in Cleveland, Josh Allen had a terrible game as well, And
somebody pointed out they showed Burrow up at the podium today talking and somebody said
something, he's laughing about his haircut and going yeah, and he's joking and
smiling and he looks relaxed, and they go, that's Joe cool. They
go, the other guy is like nervous Josh and it's going to have to
happen, and he goes and that translates onto the field because in the red
zone, Joe Cool is pretty good in the red zone. Josh Allen has
five interceptions over the last or whatever it was, and so that kind of
thing. And you do you see this pressing? Do you not, Peter?
You see like this pressing, pressing with him like he's got to do
it all. Are they asking too much of him or have they in the
past. I feel yes, I feel they're asking too much in terms of,
hey, type it down a little bit. You don't have to you
don't have to get six points every play, which you don't have to.
I mean, look at him in the first half. He was eighteen to
twenty one. Yeah, he did really good, and he had about I
don't know over the over the entire game only I should say, eighteen to
twenty one. Only five of those completions were over ten yards. So he
likes to throw down the field, but he's being reeled back in to throw
it a little get the ball out of your hands quick, get it underneath,
which is which is fine. But I think he wants to throw it
down the field, not all the time, but sooner than later be caught.
He can. He has the talent to do it. But I think
some of the mechanics you let at with Josh Allen, he's telegraphing. He
throws a little too much like in that one play I just talked about in
that third and fifteen his right away his feet were set to throw it to
Digs on the outside towards in the short tide of the field, where if
his eyes would have just taken him back to Dawson Knox and again Dawson ran
the wrong rap. But he's just he's his head's already set, his mind's
already set with what he wants to do. At least it shows that early
on, and especially you know this is only week one, but it's a
little it's a little concerning if you're a Bills fan. He needs to the
maturity has to come out this week. We have. You have to see
it now and then you any type of reeling that's going to happen. Wasn't
accuracy to knock on him coming out of college though too. It was,
Yeah, that was the number one knock. Everybody thought, well, here
we go, we'll get him another Jay Annual uh is gonna be the problem.
They call it area code issues, right, they have area code issues
as well. Yeah, he's obviously overcome that, but you know, you
feel like one one step forward, two steps back, and to have it
happened the week, what's that you're reverted back to? The accuracy is no,
I don't think because the short The short game was okay. His interviewing
game was fine, but you also have to have some game plan to get
him in a position to have different receivers in different spots, in different He's
got to read his progressions right, different levels of the field, you know,
second, second level, third level, et cetera. I didn't see
a ton of that. I'm not saying Dorsey was called a terrible game.
There was some places that were just come on. But you know, again,
I think there's a lot of things going on here. I think Josh
is having an internal tug of war with what he wants to do versus how
he's being coached. I think Dable not being there is a big reason.
I think there was so much that Dabele did, but these are all correctable.
He's just got to overcome that mental word that he's having. And again,
we're not inside everybody's head and it's impossible. This is just my in
my opinion. But my biggest concern for Monday Night's game was that was the
D line. That was my biggest frustration. You're the first person I've heard
say that, Peter, Yep, yep. And you know I didn't.
I didn't go through every single play, but I went. I went to
some big play, especially the big runs, the big runs that brief Hall
had and the one h three yard run and the first run of game.
It's just lack of discipline. It's just it's without getting into the the you
know, the football leagues and the terms, it's just lack of discipline.
It's not doing your job. It's not playing. You're one to eleven.
It's funny why you bring that play up, because that was the play where
I went man. That cornerback Benford, I mean, he hustled on that
play that he never gave up. He saved points. But right, but
that that's the stuff I did. I saw Vic Dermots and these are the
highlights. We should be showing young people how to play the game. Don't
give up. This is how you play the game. But but this guy
I mean, you know, you had people taken for that position, that
he's beaten down on the field and is starting opposite Trey White, and that
that kid was a hustler. Was there anything any positives that you saw on
this tape? What tape? Does he see? Danny, He's got the
All twenty two? Okay, everybody coaches, there's no secrets anymore. Yeah,
like everybody gets it. No, yeah, yeah. The best part
about the All twenty two is you get two angles per play, so you
get the overhead version and then you get the inside which shows the line of
scrimmage. Do you really get a slavor of everything on every play? And
that's that's that's the beauty of football. I mean, there's twenty two different
things happening at the snap of football. Sure, that's why coaches say I
have to watch the tape. They mean it, there's twenty two different things
happen. What what? What good did I see? Just the explosion of
the D line in the past for us was really good. Okay, especially
from the from the ends, you know, from from the guys that you
needed from Greg Russell, Leonard Floyd. The explosion from a password standpoint,
that's very good Milano, incredible. Can't lose this guy. He's got to
stay healthy. Cannot lose him. He does suci a good job on the
inside. He has no fair, no fear at all. Yep. But
your interior line ed concerned me at all. For number ninety one, Yep.
Leonard Floyd's ability to take on the run concerned me a little bit.
It's just just a lack of discipline concern me. Just too many guys trying
to do someone else's job. Do your job, do your one eleven and
you're not going to have an eighty three yard running against ye play Danny.
Why don't you can anybody get all twenty two? You have to pay.
If you pay for NFL plus premium for seventy nine ninety nine, you get
all of it. You get a thirty minute condensed game after the game,
can watch the entire game of every game, every NFL game. Oh yeah,
how many games do you watch it? Or loves football? I love
film. I'm a junkie a coach. Rosber just made me a junkie with
film. Why don't you Why aren't you coaching? Yeah, you know,
I took a different career path, but uh, I do I do some.
I do some announced I do some announced game okay, uh yeah,
I do some stuff for college down here on ESPN, plus some stuff.
So I do that. It's a hobby as a passion, really, and
I love watching I love watching film because again like nothing lies on the film.
Our friend Rick Huntley from the Plug is here, and Rick, do
you have that too? Yeah, I was gonna say, because I'm a
season ticket holder. So if you are a season ticket hold with the Bills,
you get it free. You get the All All twenty two. It's
called NFL Game Pass, so you can watch any game. Like you said,
it replays any game literally like forty five minutes after the game airs.
You can rewatch it and see the either a condensed game game, the full
game, or the All twenty two or the team. You really don't need
to write. You really don't need to unless you want the live experience.
You really don't need to get the ticket. You really don't because she got
stuff going on and want to wait till Monday. So as a season ticket
holder, everybody who's a season ticket holder for the Bills gets that. Yeah,
for any NFL team, for any NFL team. Yeah, And then
the Loggins are doctor Greg Connors, the number one lawyers you get. Do
you watch the All twenty two? I don't personally watch it. I know
it's available because there's no sound. Yeah, it's kind of so, Peter,
there's no sound in that. This is film like they're seeing and that.
So this is the exact film that the players are and the coaches are
taken. There's one thing they there's one thing they take out of this.
And that's interesting. You said they at least in the Jets game here,
now we haven't. Obviously we're not in the week two and plus the Jets
game, they did not show the clock in the down a distance so and
in the past they have, but I don't know if they took it away
this year for a reason. But usually they show the clock in them down
to this and so luckily I wrote down and I was watching it live.
I wrote down the down editions in the yard line and he logs every place.
He sent me a text after the first trive he goes, Okay,
where twelve personnel? We have kids, don't you have? He's got two
little ones. How do you find there all in the seven month old?
I don't know. I gotta take my wife of salary. That's basically what
I have to do to make sure too. Yeah, but for the kids,
they could sleep sleep right. They're being traded right month old, you
could be holding a watch, you know. You know that Peter hooked on
film was Junior Poles. He played in the NFL. He was Peter's position
coach. His son, Ryan Poles is now the general manager of the Chicago
Bears. Yeah, and ironically, coach Paul's is coming over here, Danny
h Saturday night. We're having dinner at my house. He's going to be
here, ye yep. Because the game, yep, yep. You're good
to have some time within the game. The Bears fields, what's going on?
I mean, Swaine Edmunds went there because it was a rebuilding because tax
free, well not really, justin fields is not going to cut it from
him. It's not a franchise school. But Brian Poles played as smart because
he's like, look, if this kid works out, I don't have to
waiste an early pick on a quarterback. I could trade back and get more
picks if he sucks. Guess what we're gonna be a perfect position. They
had a quarterback and there's about five of them. This might be the Peter,
the greatest college class ever coming out next year, if everybody comes.
I think it's very talented, very talented coming out. So you know,
it remains to be seen. Yep, yep. And he built that line,
Ryan built, rebuilt the offensive line, and they did not look good,
too good, too good on on Sunday against Green Bay. So it
often runs too early. Yeah well yeah, yeah, true, too true
too sort of the problem. Uh, Peter, what do you think the
chances are against the Raiders? I would assume. I mean, I like
their chances. I you know that that spread what's at eight nine nine points
seem a little hig for me. But I just worry about you know,
Jacobs, he's a good runner. They played a lot of twelve personnel to
do the Raiders. They got two tight ends, one running back, and
they're gonna they play smash mouth when they want to run the football. They'll
come at you. And if they're watching the Jets game, they could be
looking their chops. As long as the Bills played at a sound, disciplined
defensive line football on Sunday, I think they'll be fun. But if they
start jumping gaps, they start going outside where they shouldn't be. It could
be a long day defensively for them. But I think Josh Allen's going to
bounce back for sure. Now on Monday Night, you know, they knocked
out Aaron Rodgers and Zach Wilson came in. He just didn't make any mistakes
and they beat them. So the Raiders Jimmy Garoppolos their quarterback. Now,
he used to be a forty nine ers quarterback and he's had a lot of
injury problems, so it wouldn't be surprising if he gets knocked out. The
guy you gotta be careful of is Aidan O'Connell, the backup. This guy
got a lot of preseason praise and people are saying that the head coach,
Josh McDaniels finally has his own love Pacloyolic, I'm brady that he can mold
into his image, and I'm not I don't take much stock in preseason,
but people were like Peter like applauding this dude, like, oh, this
guy's got it, and it's just gonna be interesting to see if that plays
out. If that happens well, if it plays out, and then you
get into live action. It's on the road. I mean, it's a
different environment, but it's interesting. Perfect in preseason, what did he do
against San franc Yeah, live action in the regular season. It is boy,
it's it's something that allose film guys were like touting this kid, like,
oh, I look if the kids got talent, and I bet he'll
be something. I'd say. It's gonna be interesting to like see what happens
when there's live real, real, live action. That's true, it's gonna
be one because ye Jari Garoppolo is not mobile. I don't. I don't
believe. So it'd be interesting to see how the Bills come out on Sunday
because they came out of man coverage Aaron Rodgers. They're not worried about him
wearing the football. You know, man coverage, you have the you worried
at the defensive back turns, they're back to the quarterback. Quarterback will run
and in the minute Aaron was hurt, he comes out. They jump into
zone against Jack Wilson to worry about zach Arymon the ball one part right,
So they change a little bit of their defensive teams. So you know,
we'll see there's a lot they have to fix before Sunday. I think they
will, but it's just you know, it's it's it's waiting, it's weighing
on a fan base, it's winning people talking about it, it's weighing on
the coach. So it's something that has to be done. All right.
Well I like this. I like this. I will say this. We'll
wrap it up on this own. We hold our athletes to a higher standard
than we hold our politicians. I was just thinking about that. Oh yeah,
with all the ship that's going on with Biden administration, that it is
sound now and all the ship I go. We hold our athletes to a
higher standard than our politicians, and we hold our ode of ourselves. Yeah.
I was watching film on c Span earlier and I didn't like the presidential
pressor one. Peter very good. I really enjoyed this. Thank you,
Thanks for having me, guys. Thanks bro, see you later on.
We do it every week with him, Yeah, absolutely, he wants to
do it every week, all right, whatever day works for him. When
we got we got to dumb it down though, No, but he was
great. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, and he can get really
technical. Well, I think, like I say, dumb it down because
I try to think of life as the iPhone, right, as long as
it's it's it's intuitive, it's easy to use. And not everybody's a deep
football fan, you know. But I mean, here's the guy who's got
I don't even know what what free moments you would have to look at ALL
twenty two. You're running a business, you got a family. You know,
the same thing with Peter. But it's just, uh, Peter's the
first guy I've heard talk about the defense. Everybody's will wrapped up a Josh
Allen, Right, So he mentioned the defense, and he showed me the
videos of guys playing out a position, and I'm like, Anette Oliver,
who they extended, I'm like, oh no, he can't cant. And
Oliver has been a bit of a problem for a while for guys who've been
watching, like the ALL twenty two, he's been saying that good. They
just don't think he's lived up to expected. I think they want him to
be Aaron Donald. Yeah, who is right? You know? Yeah,
that's it. We'll take a moment, we'll come back. We'll talk with
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I've cut it bad. Sunny Toy with the body was waiting. You have
kids, you're hearing songs like this all the time. All right, thank
you? But you know what I was gonna ask me, how do you
select the music for yours? All right now? I just put in like
biggest Hits at twenty twenty three, and this popped up, and I always
I will tell you, like, I'm very impressed by Taylor Swift. Okay,
how she's held her own, how the tour that she does. She
seems to be as genuine as right. I haven't heard bad stuff. We
just see the article about Jimmy Fallon, who I'm spend a few minutes with
in my life, and I like, and I hear this stuff and I
have heard nothing, but like everything seems to be I don't know, yeah
up and no, I don't I think like they tried with the boyfriends and
she, you know, writes songs about she's a young girl. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like taking your diary and putting it to music. I think.
I mean, you know, she just happened to make some money off
of it. I don't know. I would have never known it that was
who that was. But yeah, it's had a nice little I was bopping
into its playliss. Yeah, you took her right off your phone. It's
Rick from the from the plug in East Few mall where man, I got
to think back to school had to be popping over there. Yeah. We
were busy, yes, super busy. Good feeling. Yeah, that's good.
All right, Well I heard there was a whole Jimmy Z told me
you had a whole back to school and send him for the student for kids
who were going back. And yeah, so we did a few things.
What we always do is we try to make sure prices are affordable. Yeah,
but one of the things that we did was just we we did a
scavenger hunt where we actually had gift cards and we were like hiding them throughout
the store. We're just posting come find them. Wow. So we knew
obviously when you have shoes priced higher than normal, you know, we want
to try to help. And that was just another way of giving back.
That is really cool and all that just done on social media. Whose idea
was it mine? Look at this? Yeah? I love it. You
just sit around and come up with these things. A Yeah, it's literally
like what can I do differently? Because you have to always you know,
just separate yourselves from the competition. Yeah, so you know, and normally
we would normally do like, hey, ten percent off, five percent off,
but you know, to say, hey, I got a hundred dollars
gift card, you just gotta come find it. So it was kind of
like we did it before in the past. But what happens was a customer
may come in looking for that one shoe. Yeah, but when you're telling
them, hey, somewhere in their stores one hundred dollars, now they're picking
up shoes that they normally wouldn't look at because the gift card is inside of
it. So now they're like paying attention to the details of another shoe.
Did they find them all or is there a chance I might find one around
Christmas time? Well, we might do more. It's kind of random,
but we did a total of seven gift cards. I think my mother one
the Easter hit eggs, okay, and then we couldn't find one of the
eggs, and all of a sudden you started to smell it like oh later,
and I go, it's too bad. You know, the gift card
be great if you didn't if you found one of Christmas time, that'd be
pretty nice. Yeah, well, we'll do a few more. You know,
we we just try to stay creative and you know, obviously we want
to make sure that you know, people are now turning on their their post
notifications. Yeah, so that way when we do post stuff like I just
did a post on my way here, here's some shoes that I say,
Hey, there's like four options, which colors do you like? So then
you know they can tell us, hey, I like this color. They
got off people saying that they like it's a New Balance okay, that they
like the white color. So now we're gonna our New Balance starting to gain
a little popularity, not starting, okay, not the ones you wear all
right. I was wearing New Balance running shoes and everybody made fun of me.
I liked them for running. That was this twenty twenty three. No,
that's why, Yeah, it was. Yeah, what happened because they're
an American made shoe it's an American shoe company. Yeah, you know,
I would just say they kind of change the direction of who's wearing the shoes.
So a lot of times smart the brand ambassadors can help push a brand.
Yeah. Yeah, so Kawhi Leonard Kai, I thought somebody happen Yeah,
yeah, so, uh who else or is a brand ambassador for them?
In baseball? I see, I see a lot of baseball play.
Oh okay, ye. So as soon as she won, the commercially started
rolling yep. Yeah, so what do we find in the plug? I
know, the wall Ezys and then primarily Jordan's. Yeah, Jordan Nike.
Those are the Adidas. Jordan Nike are at the top three. Okay,
yeah, and then you're starting to do some New Balance. Yeah, New
Balance. I just I just made a nice little purchase of about four different
styles and New Balance. But they're specific models. As you know, New
Balance goes by numbers, So the two thousand and two are the nineties sixties.
So those are the two brands that I got. And I just got
some cool colors for the store. Okay. Brady just got his first pair
of Jordan's for school. Of them cheap little I don't know what. They're
probably nothing that would be a near store. He was like, I got
some jazz. Yeah, well it's it's the sneaker everybody wants. That's uh.
I love the whole thing behind it. But what is you're saying?
You put out what on social media? Justifications? A pole almost almost on
our story. So like there's some shoes that's coming out later this year,
So Nike dropped like this, they call them like sneak peaks. So they
do this video and they let everybody know, hey, these shoes are coming
in the next four months. So then we screenshot at every pair that they
were announcing okay, and then say hey, cop or drop or cop or
not and then it said yes or no answer, and then we take that
data because we get the the results. So one shoe may say seventy percent
of our customers voted yes, I'll get that shoe, and then the other
thirty percent says no. So then that gives us an idea of when that
shoe comes out. Do you primarily just use Instagram, TikTok, TikTok more
ig, but more IG. And it's the plug Underscore five A five,
the underscore score plug underscore five five. Okay, the underscore plug underscore five
eight five follow that because that's some great information. Same thing on TikTok.
Yes, same thing on TikTok. So it's the same handle. The underscore
plug Underscore five eight five correct, because I think people want to have that
thing. There's a call coming in right now, and I'm going to grab
this because a couple of people fell into the canal. Yeah, in Brockport
Saturday night. Now, this person on the on the phone happened to be
the good Samaritan that helped get them out. But I don't know if they
were watching the submarine races. Did you know they have submarine races in the
canal? Did not one o'clock in the morning. There had to be submer
I don't know, but but uh, somebody that I think there were some
were there submarine races going on in the canal. That's our watching trains.
Oh you're asking me, Yeah, I'm asking you. No, I wasn't
a submarine race. The only one was racing was a girl trying to uh
keep her friend above float, yeah, from going underwater because he's underwater for
about I say, approximately like a minute and a half. Yeah. Wow.
So, UH say your name so I don't mispronounce it. Clarence.
I'm sorry. I don't know why I had it as Curren. I thought
I saw it as Corinth. I must have seen it wrong. Uh,
but Clarence On. On your Instagram you have GQ Clarence. You look like
I look at the picture of this guy. He looks like he stepped out
of GQ. And then I see a picture of him and he's standing with
some other people. The guy looked like he could play edge rusher for the
Buffalo Bills. Like he's jacked. Yeah, yeah, I try to make
it to the gym as much as I can. I played a little some
of my pro football and everything, and you know, I work out a
lot, so I hear a lot of time about my arms, and I'm
like, I said, you gotta eat your wheaties. You know, I
had that same problem. So Clearence, what were you doing out by the
canal at one o'clock in the morning to be able to be there to help
these people? Okay, I'll make a long story short. So one of
my friends, UH end up calling me out. He was out, you
know, just having a drink and he was at the bar. So I
was just gonna go join them. And what happened was I pulled my car
off, I drove from LB in the Brockport and I got the brock Port.
So as I jumped out, I had flipplop songs and I was gonna
change and some my sneakers in the trunk. So is right across from a
Rockport police station. I've seen a cop he whips around the corner and then
he parked his car back there, and then there was another cop that cut
through the parking lot, and I'm thinking, like, what's going on?
Is there a fighting? Yeah? And then I've seen a lot of people
gathered over there, so I'm like all right, and then I've seen the
cop running over there. So I'm like, you know, I wouldn't know
what's going on. I'm like, Joe, I want to know. You're
like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, just just want to
know. So and if I can help, you know, I'm gonna help.
So I ended up I ran across the pavement of my flip flops.
It's probably about, I say, about forty yards and flip flops. And
then I see the one officer and the second officer trying to pull this guy
out because they've got it's cement embankment and they have that at different parts of
the canal, which I was Uh. I have a son who's thirteen.
He was up visiting me about a year ago and we were goofing around by
the canal and he slipped like on that edge. He was being funny,
like playing feet in the ducks or something. We're trying to get him to
come out, and he slipped and there's all slime and stuff. It's like
a fish tank. No one's cleaned, right, so you can't get any
footing on that thing. So there's I mean, if that's where you are
in the canal, if you can't swim, you're fucked. And I hear
like Pardner, but I forgive me, but but the but the and there's
an undertow like we don't think of it. You look at the canal and
you go aheah, it looks fine because I've been out there on a kayak
and stuff. But no, they're not a good nine feet deep, if
not more. Yeah. Right. What we need to know is what that
forty time was in the flip flopsy four thirty nine. It might been a
four. Oh't no, maybe a four or five. It's not bad.
That's not bad. You felt a sense of urgency to get over there.
So when you get over there, do you help, Like do you hold
on to the officers as they're reaching down into the canal? And what do
you do? Because you're a big strong guy. Yeah, yes, sir,
yeah. So immediately I see the bystanders. They're just standing there.
There's like probably about six or several people that's standing there. I'm like,
what the heck. I see the officer reaching. He's reaching over. Now
their alster he goes to reach over too. So my instinct they're like they
I guess they dispatched or whatever they said. There's a guy that fell over
in the canal. He's in the canal or whatever. They're trying to pull
him out. So I reach. I was the third set of hands to
pull him out, with the two officers right along the side. He came
out face down, and then the one officer he said, turn him over
on his back, turn him over on his back. So he turns him
over on the back and then he starts to perform CPR, hitting his checks,
hitting his check. But the guy he was out, he was gone,
like there was no life left. He was like whip, you know,
like a limp gutty noodle like he was. He was gone. So
it's like, oh my gosh, you know, so one auser he goes
to get up, so I get up with him. The girl she's still
in the water and you know, it's about it's probably like four feet to
the water, that embankment that you were talking about, so possible to climb
up there. So the officer he reached one hand down, I reached the
other hand down, and the girl, you know, we went to try
to pull her out, and it was a tough time getting her out,
so she put her feet for leverage to try to get out, and then
her grip was slipping from out of my hand because she was so wet and
it was slipping from the alcer over there. We almost hit her up and
then she was slipping back, and I could just think in my brain,
I was like, no, guy, like, we can't drop this girl,
you know, and lose her, because we know she already just struggling
fighting to keep this guy up and he's been under water for a minute and
a half. So in my brain so the worst was like, no,
we can't let her go. We gotta get her up and over. But
the girls, I guess she worked out too, because you know, she's
a big girl, you know, so she probably worked out too, you
know, So it's a little bit tougher getting over to h and baked.
So we had to Clarence Clarence. Not to be mean, Not to be
mean, but you're saying worked out and bigger, and my question was going
to be the same thing. Did she work out at the gym or did
she work out of the Z's Jimmy Z's in Brockport. I think I'm gonna
pass on that one, but Clarence Clarence Clarence, we gotta say the gym.
She Yeah, she worked out at the gym. Hey, Clarence,
I'm time for how's L four five in your in your back? You didn't
need to blow out a disk or anything, did you? No? Sorry,
But when I did go down, I scraped on my knuckle. I
scraped on my kneed because when we were trying to pull her, I almost
at that point in time, I almost fell in there too, and I
had to catch my grip. I slipped out of my foot flip blops when
we were getting the guy out, so I almost fell in with her.
So we had to fight. Letter Man, Dude, if you went in,
if that, if that, if any video of this, Yeah,
there's got to be body camera video. If there has to be, Yeah,
somebody usually you know, somebody's always out the camera and The other thing
is everybody films nowadays, right, yeah. Yeah. It might have been
dark though at night one o'clock in the morning. Yeah, but you get
you get the lights out there. All you need is all we wanted to
Shay Clarence getting pulled back in by some and then the canal. That's that
was very nice for you to get to get involved. And I know that
that woman had hurt her head as well. Do you know what they were
doing by the canal, like one o'clock in the morning, they were having
a conference. Well, I know there were submarine races going on and they
were watching them. Well, it's common that people like because there's a couple
of bars that are by a canal, so common that you know, people
will go in the canal, you know, yeah, yeah, or sometimes
sometimes body parts come out for different reasons. I understand what's happening in here.
I think I know what's happening, But man, how scary though The
dude stands up, loses his footing and falls in, and she says in
the news she didn't know. She knew he didn't know how to swim,
so she jumps in to save him, which is probably one of the worst
things you can do. And I know that sounds counterintuitive, but it's so
hard when someone scared in the water yourself. You know, you've pointed that
out right, that she probably was tired out. Well, well, Clarence,
have you heard from these people at all? I have not the friends
that the kids. Uh, well, so she has a son that he's
probably like eighteen twenty one and something like that. But I spoke to him
that same night, and you know, he's thinking and everything, and you
know, I just said, you know, God placed me in the right
place at the right time, you know, to come help, you know,
along with the two other you know, remarkable officers because I mean they
were on it, you know as well, so a big thing to them
as well. You know, so everyone pitched in to save that guy's life.
But you know she started out by jumping in, and if she didn't
jump in, yeah, you know, who knows. Who knows. That's
a good point because Rick just wrote me a note saying I'm assuming that he
was revived. They both have left the hospital since since the incident. Yeah,
So that that's a great thing, right, and that you did you
did save she saved the life and you helped say of her life because there's
really no getting out of there. That that's uh so that that's an eye
opener. And now that the kids are backing college only count now the question
I wanted did you make it into the bar afterwards? And did you pay
for any drinks that night? So yeah, I did. I mean that
to the bar afterwards, and that's where her son thanked me. And then
there's one girl I know that's a bartender that works there and owner for a
while. Yeah, her name is Jesse. She's a great bartender out there
in about core and she ended up, you know, she Hey, you
know I can get you some drinks, you know, in the house and
stuff, and you know, I'm not a person that drinks and drive.
And it's close to closing, tien, So I'm like, nah, I
appreciate it. Anyways, thank you. Come on, that was God's reward
for you. God puts you the right place at the right time, and
then put you the right bar at the right time. He's got seventeen bubbles
to go out and go back next time. Come on, man, I
think that what Clarence, what your last name is that Carrithers? Yes,
the Carrithers. What do you do for a thing, sir. I actually
I own my own company now it's a gutter company. So I put up
gutter on people's houses. I do gutter cleans, uh, gutter pitch and
gutter sailings. I do. What's remove all? What's the flights? What's
the name of the business, Uh, CFC Gunner pro CNC gutter Pro.
Yes, sir, okay, And you got a website people can find you
online? I do. I'm in the process of doing a website, but
I haven't got it up yet, so I just go buy my phone number.
So but I'm not sure. Did you say you do Christmas lights too?
Yeah? Yes, sir. Stop overs here. Friend Matt at bTB,
he's looking for somebody to put up Christmas slates this year. Yeah,
he is bTB. And then Rechurch, Yeah, he is looking for people
to do that. But uh, do you have Do you have a Facebook
page or anything where people might be able to find you. Yeah. G
two Clarence GQ Clarence. Why why GQ Clarence His hero was taken? Because
because I mean, I always been, you know, a free, dapper
guy. You know, once upon a time. You know, my mom
she told me, I was handsome and I ran with it. So well,
everybody, hang on a second, everybody's mom lies to him, and
sister has everybody's mom line. But I said, at the beginning of this,
I saw your picture. You are a handsome guy. You are handsome,
that is true. Appreciate appreciate it. Yeah, but so the when
you introduce yourself as GQ, do the ladies laugh or do they they like
it? Or do you have a lady in your life? First off,
GQ, you know, it's just you know, because if you're if you
make it to the GQ magazine, it's like it's big. You know,
all the celebrities are in there and everything, and and they're all snazzy and
everything. So I just attached the GQ to the front. But my real
name is Clarence, but the GQ because you know, those sandy and everything,
so in front of there, you know, I like it. So
I know. We talked about your weightlifting. Now, I have a twenty
one year old son who did his first powerlift competition, and but he did.
Yeah, he didn't know anything about it. He didn't know like any
of the rules or anything. He's on a Roberts Wesleyan's track team. He's
a thrower, so he went in there and you have to wear a singlet
and he didn't have one, so he had a barrow one and then his
underwear was sticking out, so they cut cut the underwear. They cut his
underwear, but he came in third. So I'm gonna brag. I'm gonna
ask you how much do you bench? How much do I bench? Because
right now, you know, it's so funny. I'm actually I'm in Betavia
right now, and I was inside of Planet Fitness, and uh texted him
back and forth and as far as you know, callin Bill, Yes that's
me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you. So I'm like,
oh, shoot, I gotta run through a plant at call you. I'll
actually at the gym right now. But everything in this gym, Everything in
this gym ridiculous, all right, because I'm okay, yeah, So this
was I don't know. There's rules to it, like you got to hold
it for so many seconds at your chest and then hold it for so many
seconds up and there's signals that they give and he didn't know any of that
stuff. And I think he said bench wise, he only did. I
think he dropped out of three fifteen, like he couldn't do the three fifteen
and hold at one point it was but still not. No, he came
in third in his in his weight class, and I don't I think he
weighs one hundred and ninety pounds. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's
really good though for one ninety three fifteen. Yeah, he's a he's a
pretty strong kid. But uh well, congratulations. Uh you certainly were in
the right place at the right time, and you help some people, and
I'm sure the office or even thanked you. And I bet if you uh
no tickets and brock Port. Yeah, that's I think that's a good thing.
I like that. That's very smart, very smart. Had you had
those drinks and the cops pulled over a little bit like but officer, I
just yeah, all right, go ahead, yeah, get out of jail
free card. That's very funny. I'm sorry, thank you for letting us
to interrupt your workout. Clarence. Oh, that's fine, I got time,
you know, I'm on a break no judgment at Planet Fitness. Yeah,
it's a judgment free zone. Thank you, and good luck with everything.
Very welcome, take care of Thanks for reaching out. You got it
see and c gut her pro check him out. That's uh wow man.
How about that guy pulling somebody out of the canwn? That's all. You
just never know what's gonna happen. Yeah, do you ever have to rescue
anybody? You didn't have a wal mall walker go down outside of the plug
and you had run out. One time, my wife and I we were
in Toronto. No, wasn't Toronto. We were in Canada at Swish La.
Remember the guy did he fall or we just need to help? Like
he did he fall? Yeah? So he was. It was a guy
with his dad. His dad was like he was probably a hundred huh and
he was seventy oh yeah, so he was in. The guy even actually
offered us to stay at his cottage in in uh in Canada. We never
went because the dates were always off. But we helped him because he was
literally about to fall out of the wheelchair. Trying to get him in the
car. You were walking out. So my wife being a nurse, she
stepped right in and yeah, and then of course she steps in. You
have to just had a guilt. Come on, watch her, he can't
stand there. Go wow, I'll go get our car. Yeah, he
took a picture, start recording. All right, Well, the things are
good at the plot. Thank you for all your support. I love when
you're in love to have you in a semi regular basis. I know things
are busy for you. It's slowing down now. Obviously we're gonna rent back
up obviously in November. Yeah, so I can definitely try to pop in
maybe once every two weeks. That'd be great. That it would be great,
Thank you very much. We shall take a moment. There's some political
stuff happening, and we'll check in with an old professor from Saint John Fisher
College, doctor Bowers, get a look at all that stuff. We'll do
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red White to the che I don't know if this is the h an appropriate
song to play or not, but it did come out today that Hunter Biden
has been indicted on a federal gun charges. And there's been a lot of
speculation as to his involvement in certain things and his father's level of involvement in
those dealings with Ukraine and what was going on and the cocaine in the White
House. And I feel like no matter what Biden did in the office,
there was not a chance that they weren't going to try to impeach him for
something. Oh well, there is an impeachment hearing going on, but someone
who could kind of put it in playing language for everybody maybe to understand as
you see these headlines, I mean headlines now just fly at you all day
long. If you get push notifications on your phone, it never stops.
Is doctor Bowers retired from Saint John Fisher College actually working on a podcast of
his own. He was using the studio and completely independent, but more of
a like a course. He was teaching with Arnie Rothschild. And Arnie certainly
has done campaigning and things that this was on campaigning. And I think one
of the things I always admired about doctor Bowers. I never had him,
I was never a student of his, but why him was the constant curiosity
And I always like that that somebody wants to continuously learn. And so I
know you've probably been paying attention to the Hunter Biden situation today, Doctor Bowers,
Well, now I have to think it if I wasn't first off,
first off, a couple a couple of quick observations. Had you ever had
me? Yes, I'm wonderful, I'm wonderful. Yes, I've been told
that. That's why I have been told that, I mean all bullshit aside,
I have been told that from by by stamps of your and the second
thing, since you did open the door for this, Yes, fortunate son
is about how the rich avoid the war. Yes, So I don't know
if it quite sits. So I'm just I'm just saying it was I was
thinking, I was thinking it was your music while I was on hold no
no, no, no no, But I'm going, shit, this is
pretty good. So I was gonna it would fit more for probably the Bushes
than it would for the Biden. Well, anyway, enough of my jocularity.
Okay, let's get serious. So what is going on with Hunter Biden?
Because they're trying to get Joe. It really who they're after is Joe.
But well he's not tied to any of these charges with Hunter at all.
Right, I think I think you really, you really have to kind
of divide these things. Okay, Yeah, And I'm looking at this situation
with Hunter bid Biden, and I think we even have to preface it this
way if we take his name out of it, or even we leave his
name in it, given that some of these charges are related to his drug
use. You on the purchase of a gun, lying about it on a
form that you are a drug user kind of underscores just how much drug addiction.
It doesn't matter if you're rich, poor, white, black, male
or female. So to kind of put this in a little bit of perspective,
in that regard, Hunter Biden probably didn't do anything different than a lot
of other drug addicts. I agree, and I think a jury I would
be surprised if a jury pushed something like that because because of exactly that,
and who got hurt by it, and and there you're opening the door I
wanted to enter anyway, because here's how I'm putting this, and I have
been listening to some of the analysis things, and so I can't claim all
this is original, But some of the things that are coming out right now
in the news suggest that neither of the things that he is currently being indicted
on would most federal prosecutors do as stand alone indictments. So, for example,
one report I heard said, lying on the form happens all the time.
If we would take that to our boss and ask for them to it
allowed us to prosecute it, they would have said no. So some of
this here's why, here's what I really think is happening. I don't think
uh, special counsel wife is politically motivated. Yeah, had he been,
he would he would never have offered the plea deal in the first place.
Right here, what I think is a prosecutor and his team got embarrassed by
a judge, and because a judge who nor almost always accepts a plea for
whatever reason, whether the judge had political motivations, whether the judge just went,
what the fuck are you doing here? Because you don't eat this is
too broad, whatever the judge's reasons, embarrassed wife and his team. So
now they have almost no choice but to appear tough on Hunter Biden. You
okay, And so I actually think existed a lot about faith saving of a
special prosecutor, which, by the way, give Merritt Garland credit for making
him now a special prosecutor, which he actually gives him jurisdiction to investigate Hunter
Biden throughout the country, not just in one area. But this, to
me, there's a lot of prosecutory faith saving going on here. And what
that will then probably do is force it into a new round of plea negotiations.
So so I seriously doubt that this unless Hunter Biden's own lawyers are batshit
crazy, which I don't think they are You're never going to see this go
to trial, Okay, Rather I suspect you're going to find a tougher plea
bargain. They kept referring to it as a sweetheart deal. Was the first
one the first well first one right right? Yeah? Yeah, and and
and and again. So so I don't you know so, so I think
you do have to kind of separate this from what the and if I offend
anybody your team, I apologize for this up to a point. Uh,
this is this is totally separate from what the mega midgets mental midgets in the
House of Representatives are trying to do with their impeachment inquiry. Okay, And
again, if I offend any of your your your your your team there,
that suck it up. But I'm gonna be honest, I haven't really followed
the story as much as I should have. He being indicted because his last
name is Biden? Is there is there merit to this? Or is it
because his last name is Biden? I think it is it always it just
the two of you tonight, because I'm sorry I was already trying to pick
on you, no trying to do, but I think it is in this
context had this been one of the three of us, okay, and we
had gone to you had this a plea bargain similar and a judgment what the
hell you doing? The fact that our plea fell apart would never made the
news, right, So it's it's about Hunter Biden only because of who he
is, and it embarrassed the prosecutor. I still really think this is what
this set of charges is about. They're not you know, they're not trumped
up charges, no pun intended. But but yeah, it is about Hunter
Biden only in the sense that is such a pro high profile name that it
embarrassed the prosecutor. So there's also the impeachment inquiry right now, and I
know that Republicans kind of looking at that, and it was wrought to and
I'm going to forget the senator's names attention about Hunter Biden today, and he
goes, I really don't care because Joe's not attached to any one of these
charges. Those aren't the charges I'm interested in. So it's almost as though
no one with any kind of power or political savvy had really thinks much of
this at all. No, and that too, by the way, I
also appreciate the vect you pointed out it was a US senator. Republican US
senator. Yes, because the Republican US senator, except for a small number
of them, show a much higher level political maturities at their house counterpart.
Yeah, the house counterpart. I mean you are talking. I have to
say, I would say that even Republicans have to admit that the house counterpart.
You you have a mental IQ, just really low IQ. Republicans in
there, I'm sorry, you just do. Yeah, you do. And
by the way, and I have a fee. There's a few. There's
a few on the Democrat side too, but they glad. But but I
know, but they aren't causing as much trouble right now. But come back,
but come back to the Senate for a second. I mean, you
really have hit on a number of things here. The only thing you're going
to see Joe Biden doing this is what any parent would do, and that
stand by your child. And he's always has taken the position that his son
should be held responsible. He's never tried to deny his son was an addict.
He's never tried to deny his son has had a troubled life. But
she's a loving father. So he's and I do think if the Republicans are
careful on this one, and if they try to make too much hay,
they're going to get some blowback in twenty twenty four if this isn't resolved,
because there are so are so many Americans, particularly those independents, who are
already really Trump again. Yeah, to say no, no, no,
no, you don't your family, you don't touch you leave family alone,
particularly with addiction. That the key here is why Hunter Biden, I think,
also becomes kind of a sympathetic figure, though admittedly he doesn't help his
own calls all that often addiction. Addiction makes you do stupid things. Yeah,
it does. So I'm sorry. I was going to say, you
know, you bring up twenty twenty four, and the question is for a
lot of people, will it be Biden again? Is Biden? Some people
question is he fits and run? Would it be Trump again? Or is
it going to be somebody like Gavin Newsom out of California? And I don't
know who necessarily would be coming on the Republican side. Yeah, well,
I think at this point, uh, a lot of the commentators, myself
included, should probably kind of quit the political masturbation about other candidates Okay,
it feels good to talk about it, but you know, the reality is,
if all things continue to the way they're going, you're going to see
a rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. You know. Now, again
again I'm not obviously saying absolute because but but the odds right now would say
that and from the from from the viewpoint of the voting public, Hunter Biden
doesn't figure into their equation at all. No, that's not a campaign issue.
Okay. Now when I'm look, here's where I'm saying. You know,
it's still early that let's if by some chance, and there is a
possibility he might stumble in the Iowa caucuses, if someone else then Donald Trump
comes in first in the Iowa caucuses, then it's a whole new game because
because what it shows is he can't do a ground game. Okay, and
people forget in the Iowa caucus. You know, there's rounds, and so
Trump may start out in a plurality or something, but then people go to
their second choices when your candidates drop out, it could come out where he
wins that narrowly or loses it, and that becomes opportunities. And so you
know, I don't think we have much to speculate on. I mean,
we can always speculate, That's what I do. But it's really January where
we're begin to see or whenever the Iowa caucuses are, is where we begin
to see the real possibility. Because even if you look at these these these
court cases fun you may have New York coming up, though it looks like
that's temporarily delayed. You've got the yeah, yeah, but that's that's a
formality. There was something in the day that an appellate judge granted a temporary
motion that the Trump people wanted so a panel of five could review it well
in New York State New York State Appellate Division, I doubt is going to
act against the trial judge in this case. So it's a temporary delay.
But but even if you look at you look at the DC one is not
set until March of twenty twenty four, okay, And the Georgia probably won't
happen until the first part of next year either, because she isn't she's not
going to get to try all nineteen of them together. The judge ruled on
that today, basically saying, for no other reason, we just don't have
enough space to accommic date everybody in a courtroom. So all this legal stuff,
you know, all our better speculations are better notion of knowing what it's
more likely to happen. It's going to be commenced at the start of twenty
twenty four. Now, I don't mean to go on and on right now.
If you take just Biden himself, I think Biden is adamant that he's
going to run. Yeah, I do too, and I and okay,
I'm sorry, no, go ahead. I wasn't gonna say anything. I
just I agree with you. I think he is adamant, and I'm not
sure. I'm not sure if I feel good about that or not. Doc.
Well, here's here's I think people need to get past the age thing.
Yeah, for this reason. Okay, uh, you know we are
an aging first off, we are an aging society. Yes, we are
seeing people longer and longer functioning well into seventies, eighties, and early nineties.
Okay. Now, now, obviously the presidency is a unique thing.
But we're not really seeing cognitive I don't think there's any real serious evidence of
any cognitive design a decline on Joe Biden's part. Some physical well he's an
eighty year old man, but he's still active. Some of the things I
think the people want to lead into being cognitive is his old habit of stuttering.
It slows him down, it slows his speech. You've got vastly there
should be vastly more concerned about Mitch McConnell's state. And I'm making no joke
here, I know I agree with you. It's almost scary because you don't
know what to do in those situations where he's it's almost think he's frozen.
He's a frozen character at that moment. And now the day that happens to
Joe Biden, yeah, totally Now, so the only thing they're gonna take
Joe Biden out to this thing is most likely something happened to his health,
right, you know, And again, God forbid, no one wants to
see it. But from the viewpoint of it being Donald Trump versus Joe Biden,
I'm not I actually do believe that Joe Biden is the Democrats and in
some ways the country's best option against Donald Trump. Interesting. Okay, what's
it gonna take at this point to get us back to the good old days
of where it's not hardline I'm on the right hardline. I'm on the left
where we've got that middle ground is coming through more. Is that popularly can
ever come back? Or is that are we too far gone at this point?
I don't think we're too far gone, but the people, Okay,
I want to think this out, but quickly for you. In the sense
that I think the vast majority of America still are in the center. We
are a center left of center right people. I agree one hundred and the
only thing that I sometimes see as a problem is the two party system in
that there is no gray area. So if I am going to line up
on a certain side. And I remember two people being in here doing a
separate podcast, Unfiltered an Average, which is another one we produce here,
and they were having a discussion and one of them said, well, you
know I am I am very conservative, and I really supported Trump, and
so conversation just coming out, and then all of a sudden was well,
I could never vote for legal abortion. I just can't do that. I
would rather see people adopt. But I couldn't tell somebody else, you know
your body, I would never do that. I'm going so hang on a
second, So you're going to vote that way, because, yeah, I'm
going to stick with my party even though my party doesn't represent me fully.
And I think that's our some of our party, some of our problems today.
Okay, And I'm in agreement with you up to a point. But
let me let me go back and add something in here. The polarization of
our two parties, yes, came about in part because of jerrymandry. Sure,
when you went when when a Lorraine Barbette or however you say her last
name, when her and a Marjorie Taylor Green can get elected if they had
to run in even a marginally competitive district, they wouldn't. In fact,
Lorraine Barbette, I'd be pronounced that, which is less. I'm sorry,
Bobert okay, bob okay. Sorry, she almost didn't make it because her
district isn't all that read and she's been such an embarrassment that aside. Jerrymandering
is one of the ways that parties become polarized and what people forget. Historically,
the two groups who were embraced jerrymandering the most were conservative Republicans and urban
African American leaders. The Conservative Republicans went along with it because they knew they
could then concentrate Democratic vote into a number of smaller districts. Right, it's
really a manipulation of the boundaries right of the census. So you're kind of
favoring one party or even a class to a certain extent. Yes, Now
the other thing said, to go back to the example you gave your gentleman
who is saying, oh, but you know, I'm a conservative, but
I would never vote to you know, make a have an abortion. Well,
then you know, it's one thing to say I support my party.
And if your party is Mitt Romney, if your party is Chris Christy,
if your party is is SNUNU in what is a New Hampshire, fine,
you just stay with your party. But the Republicans, I do hold them,
particularly those in Congress and party leaders who are afraid to take back their
party. I got you, sure, So at some point you have to
go no, okay, no, hope, you can't do that. And
so so the polarization comes about too because so many politicians lack courage because they
want the office. I mean, you know, I probably don't agree on
much with someone like Liz Cheney, you know, but she's a true conservative.
But God love her. She stood up for what was right, she
stood up for United America, and we do need more than that. And
this actually brings me back why I believe Biden still becomes the best chance Biden.
Say what you will. He's a liberal Democrat. Fine, you know,
he almost old enough to know who if he almost knows old enough to
have voted for FDR hang you know, hang on. But the point being
he believes in the country. Yeah, and he believes in the country that
we're talking about something that united that we can disagree on. So I'm sorry,
I'm rambling a bit, but you're making You're making perfect sense. And
the word that you just said was disagree but disagree and yet find common ground
or disagree to disagree to disagree and not make it a big political battles.
Now with social media, the fringes doc are so loud that no one gets
to be heard in the middle, and so you get these other things that
drown it out, whether it be the far far left with some really wacky
ideas or the far far right with the Marjorie Taylor Queens that I mean,
even today she's asked about the Hunter Bidens. She goes, I want to
just talk about the impeachment, but she doesn't even understand at least does not
give the impression that she does. Just being very honest, she doesn't.
And I wouldn't think that most Republicans would agree. Well, and we we
we've done a couple of things. Actually, I want to I want to
make this point before I forget it. I do believe there's an opportunity in
twenty twenty four Donald Trump loses. I'm sorry, guys, all Republicans,
good Republicans, traditional Republicans have to hope for that. Yeah, I think
they have to. But where I'm headed with that is is when he when
he loses the second time, his currency, his capital, and is relevancy
off right, it's almost gone. That's when like the Lincoln it was not
Lincoln the yeah, the Lincoln Republic, that movement. That's when the traditional
Republican could probably make a resurgence. Okay, there will always be a there
will always be a whack a mole function now of a faction now in the
Republican Party. But after twenty twenty four, and if Trump loses, because
I also think what you can see in twenty twenty four or is contrary to
what they what people think. I actually, right now, I would give
odds on the Democrats holding the Senate, even if they lose West Virginia.
We've kind of lost West Virginia anyway. With mention, I think in a
number of these suburban districts that that maybe marginally went for a Republican in twenty
twenty two, I think they become vulnerable in part because of things like the
impeachment, abortion, all these you know, all these kind of issues that
simply alienate that center left, center right, which is what the heart of
America is. I actually think there's a reasonable chance that the Democrats could gain
the House back in twenty twenty four. Not by a great big majority,
but enough to say, well, here we go, here's three here's three
elections in a row that we've we've tied our fortunes to Donald Trump, and
look what happened to us. Does it go farther off the rails? It
that Well, I'm going to say yes, from the viewpoint that at least
at the executive branch level, it goes off the rails for four years.
Yeah. The scary and that's the scary part. Uh, Now, how
how far it goes off the rail would depend upon what is the divide in
the House and the Senate. Yeah. Uh, the House, Republicans are
never going to have a supermajority. They're never going to have that thirty forty
seat majority like the Democrats at at one time. Uh. And in the
in the Senate, even in twenty twenty four, even with someone like Mitt
Romney announcing he's not running again, well, he's not up till twenty twenty
six. So even with a a small Republican majority in the Senate, the
Senate would still serve to kind of cool down the other, you know,
the House and Trump to a degree. Uh. Possibly, possibly, but
it's it's yeah, I just would prefer not to think about us. Yeah.
And again, you know, and that's not because he's a well,
I don't think he is, even as a Republican. In fact, I
think I think the Republicans need to be honest with themselves and say, you
know, we really don't have a Republican party anymore. It is the it
is, it is. It is a Trump Party. There is no Republican
Party as the three of us know it anymore, at least not at the
national level. I often thought that the Republican Party, at least Free Trump
was more of the Kennedy Democrats in a way. It was almost like,
if you were a Kennedy Democrat back in the day, that's more of what
a Republican is today. Not a good that's a good observation, because John
Kennedy was not all that liberal. No, and I'm not even and look,
but I mean, I know what you mean. Yeah, and I
think in terms of that that thinking which was still a little more centered,
way more centered. But but but again, there weren't as Mary. I'll
go back to points I made. There weren't as many Gerrymander districts. Even
the many of the states were still competitive. There were always the safe states.
But you had to build coalitions. You did also have You had a
you had people who are ideologically pragmatic and you know you and then you had
ideological diversity across the parties. Even you know, remember up here in New
York, good old Rockefello Republicans, you know where I grew up in in
in Illinois, we had people like Everett Dirkson and Charles Percy. These were
not flaming right wing. They were conservative main street of Republicans. I mean
my god, Bob Dole. You know, Bob Dole never flamed in his
life. No, that's a good point. I forgot Bob Doll and say
what you want. And I'm not a big Mitch McConnell's fan. I can't
forgive him for the whole Merrit Garland saying I understood why he did it.
You know, Mitch McConnell's not some far right winger, which is what gets
him in trouble with a few of his crazies. Yeah, I mean think
about this and sorry for here's the dangerous part we're getting too is like the
Tommy Tummerville however you say to get Yeah, the guy for this is really
I'm gonna say it this way. You're fucking with the military. Now.
You are a Republican. You are supposed to believe in the military, and
what you're doing is undermining the national security. Better yet, forget even that
maybe abstract comment and go, you're hurting servicemen, officers who have off and
women who have given their lives to the military because you're upset because a woman
wants to be to be able to choose. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's
like you know, and it's like come on, that's not what Republicans do.
No, we need to do right, you're you're right. There needs
to be a little more common sense or even if it's something that you don't
agree with, realize that the greater loss or the greater hurt by certain disciplines.
Yeah, you got it makes me wonder if he makes me wonder if
he got tackled too many times, or maybe his teams used him as a
tackle dummy at some point. All right, well, doc, always a
pleasure. Thank you for giving us some insight to that. I appreciate it,
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pay attention to. And yet we don't. And as I said earlier,
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