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toiletside the Wall, I gotta bring
something up when somebody there. There's somebody

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who's gonna be coming into the studio
later in the show, and I think

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when I when I called them,
they confirm they were on the shitter,

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but I don't know, and I
didn't ask, and they didn't dawn on

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me until I hung up. I
go, I think they were on the

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butt. And we've gotten to a
world now where we don't let it just

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go like you know, or just
shoot back up like I think your phone

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automatically gives you a pre written text
that says, I'm I'll call you right

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back. I'll call you right back
back. I'll call you back back.

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Yeah, so you could just do
that. Well, they needs to change

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it too. I'm taking a dump. You always seem to call me in

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the morning, and I'm taking one
every every time. Well the best was

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when Danny. Danny's in there and
Danny's flooding. When Javison goes she's just

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taking a shit. Yeah I was. He wasn't hung up yet, Yeah

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I was. Why, Yeah,
well that's what That's what happened. Danny

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getting ready for the big show.
Yeah, Saturday, how's this sound?

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Everything good? It sounds sounds good. I don't sounds strong to quite strong,

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strong to quite strong? Your now
your voice sounds a little oh yeah,

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because I I you try pelting led
Zepplin. It's not easy. Do

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you need some water? What can
we do? Y'all? Get some water

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in a second. I'm good good, So yeah, so eight o'clock Saturday

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night, tap at Scottsville Road.
Tapp it in Scottsville Road. Don't know

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yet. I'm good. I'm gonna
pick up foodie and I think I'm gonna

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I'm gonna double check with him and
we're gonna head out. Cool. Yeah

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kay, dog, you're coming,
don't ye don't know? Yes, he

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is, He's already. We're working
on Its possibility, Yeah, cool,

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it's possible. Kevin is a lot
going on in this word. There might

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be five people there. Kevin's got
it. No, they get they get

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a good crowd. Man, the
R I T kids show up. It's

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around the corner. A lot of
people are curious about this family project,

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vanity project. Yeah. Yeah,
Kevin is a lot going on. And

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he sent me some screenshots from a
Facebook page. His son is a freshman

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at Quinnipiac was on the pot.
Did you send this while you're on the

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sucking smell isn't here? That's what
it was you're printing? Yeah, uh

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so Kevin sends this to me and
I don't I've seen this with other colleges.

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I don't know if that. They
probably have it for my son and

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I have never looked at it.
Never want you should investigate. It's a

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parent. Is it a parent?
It's like a parent's board. Yeah.

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You can ask different questions or make
comments. Can the kids get on there?

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I don't believe. I assume they
could join it wanted to, but

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I would I would have totally like
you would have as a junior, like

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when I was a little more seasoned, I would have totally done that.

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And then because well not just troll, but so Kevin sends me some things

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and it says, here's one post
concerned about the level of partying going on

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each weekend. It appears as though
my child leaves the room for class and

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clubs and nothing else concerned. He's
not getting involved on camp suggestions welcome,

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and I'm going, Man, if
that were if I saw that and I

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recognized the last name and it was
somebody on my floor, I am printing

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it. I am making copies,
and I am hanging it at every possible

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into the walls. A thing that's
going too far? You mean, that's

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just going to be awesome. Kids
probably like so they really juicy ones are

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always anonymous member. Well this is
always this is an anonymous anonymous member.

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But what do you mean that's going
too far? The embarrassed the kid for

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clearly they're not leaving the room for
a reason. They got type, they're

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leaving to the concerned about the level
of partying going on each weekend, but

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my child leaves the room for class
and clubs and nothing else. Oh,

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I thought you meant like the okay
clubs like that? Yeah, okay,

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like going out dancing clubs, dan, okay, person going to see if

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the person was sitting in the room
all the time. I'm not picking on

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it, Okay, No, that's
not me. But if I saw that,

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like some of my buddy who I
go out party with every Friday night

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and his mom are dead, Hey, lou hey post this. I'm hanging

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it everywhere, going hey man,
mom's all nervous, and then I'm parents

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weekend, I'd be like, your
son is so much fun. The thing

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is, it's it's for the freshman
parents, and I'm like, this is

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just freshman. It's their most of
these kids, it's their first time away

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from home on their own, yes, doing what they want to do.

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The kid's going to class. Let's
let's just let that go. He's going

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to class. It's the first taste
of freedom, right, It's the first

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real taste of freedom. And the
one I thought that what was kind of

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interesting was another post Kevin SMI and
it says, good morning, my son

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is a freshman and our first to
go to college. Babies left the nest.

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He's on the top food plan and
says everything is expensive. Now,

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how does the food plan work?
It's you buy whatever paints at the beginning

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of the semester of the year,
and some things like you know, you

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want to a subway sub or something
that's ten points or whatever it is,

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okay, and then it just comes
out of your account. But you've prepaid

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for so many points. So this
kid's on the top. He's on the

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top food plan. Uh we okay, he's on the top food plan and

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says everything is expensive. We don't
want him to be hungry and have stocked

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up on snacks, but want to
give him cash just in case he needs

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to buy more food. Any suggestions
and how much cash we should give him

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per week? Thanks? This This
is the biggest bunch of bullshites. This

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is such a scam, you dumb
fucks. You're how do these parents not

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know? Now? Did your parents
did not go to college? No?

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Did your parents go to college?
My parents? My parents went to college,

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So my parents were kind of new. Not not that I'm not saying

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one way or the other parents went
to college or not. My point is,

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like, my I went to Fisher, my dad went to Fisher.

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My parents came up for parents weekend. My dad had beers stuffed in his

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sock and his waistband walking down before
on so long before you have the magazine

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of beers like across his chest and
MBO. He didn't, but if he

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thought of it, he would have. You know, he had all this

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and he was all about you partying
and all about having a great time,

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and he was reliving his glory days. At one point they had a casino

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night in the in the main hall. Yeah, and Carney in the front

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and uh, if somebody comes in
and goes, dude, your parents are

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rolling around in the grass making out. They loved each other. Yeah,

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my mom and dad, you know
my dad. What happened, I don't

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know, but I would I would
kill the relift like one week of college.

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Yeah. But so my my point
with this one is one these people

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are naive, right because the kid
doesn't need more money for food, and

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if he does, it's like the
oldest trick in the college book. Yeah.

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So one of the parents, I
just actually pulled this back up,

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one of the parents coming that I
have had the money to the grades.

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Since she is in her first semester, we'll give her four hundred dollars a

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month for grades. After the first
semester is a three six, then it

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goes to three sixty. I'm paying
for performance, and since it's once a

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month, it encourages proper budgeting.
If they buy too much Starbucks at the

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start of the month, then they'll
be by a month. Then they'll be

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reusing get bags. Well, here's
the other thing. That was kind of

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my point when I thought of this, because you gotta draw the line at

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some point, because you're enabling this
kid to be here responsible. So this

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is college if nothing else, is
a nice way to wade into adulthood.

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You know what I mean. You're
not jumping off the ledge and all of

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a sudden you're in the deep end, trying to figure out credit cards and

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rent and car insurance and all this
stuff. You're able to sort of wade

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your way in even if mom and
dad aren't pay say you have student loans

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and things. It's still a way
to wade in. Right you're not.

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You still have some time and some
safety and some that. But so but

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this is it ago. I'm gonna
send more money. Well when I when

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I went to school, maybe it
was different. I don't know how it

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worked with you, bill, but
like when you paid tuition, everything was

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included, right if you wanted to
buy more food than you could have to

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pay for that out of your own
pocket. Yeah, but like like we

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hit you had fourteen meals a week. The most people didn't go for breakfast

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unless it was Saturday or Sunday.
And so when you use those meals,

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it was it was gone and you
had reaching your own pocket. And my

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father made sure that I was working
like forty fifty hours a week during the

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summertime to pay for any extra expenses
that he didn't have to pay for that

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came out of me. There was
no sending me money unless I was like,

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hey, Dad, you know I
overextended myself this year because I didn't

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drink much at all. Actually,
and so we we've documented this. I

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made it Jesus. But Dad,
like i'd be driving the Billy Moran around.

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Hey, Hey, yeah, here's
so we're care get a plate.

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Yeah sure, okay, I'll pay
for it then we get there. Actually,

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I'm not gonna pay for it.
I just wanted to use you to

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get to the marks. I'm like, oh, thanks, they wouldn't buy

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you a plate? Oh yeah,
that happened multiple times. Didn't leave them

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there. Yes, I'm saying that's
what I would have done. It was

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Jesus, It wasn't my car.
I was driving other people's cars and stuff

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because I didn't have a car in
campus my freshman year. I would have

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taken it back and lift in the
parking lot. So in fact, one

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time, one time they told me, hey, you could park behind this

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right by Marx Texas Hot And I'm
like, no you can't. They oh

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yeah you can, Like no you
can't. Yeah you. So the car

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got towed and guess who had to
pay the fine? Why? Because the

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kids are assholes that's why. Oh
my god, I wanted to paid it.

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Yeah, are these people see me? You are so nice? You're

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just so nice? Right, No, Dan knew the rules. We were

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drunk, Like I can knew the
rules that we were drunk. That was

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the explanation. Never forgot that.
But yeah, do you still talk to

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these people? No? Man,
Danny, you needed a parent block.

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There was so suggestions when I was
really to just be a troll on this

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as a as a parent, how
about the flip side, like the kids

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whose parents like, really, baby
the hell out of them. Right.

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So I was a mentor for calm
students going into my junior year. So

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I had two students and I had
to write them a letter of what to

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expect. So the first student,
I wrote, yeah, I should have

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said that, but but this was
like in the calm department, so I

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couldn't say anything about the calm department. But so I wrote two letters,

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the same letter to both students.
One was a girl. She read it,

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She's like, yeah, this is
what my parents and I expected that.

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The other one, I get a
phone call from a professor to you

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and I both know female professor who
was the chair of the department, right,

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who was freaking out about the letter. I wrote why because the student

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on the other ends mother was a
funny duddy who thought, oh, I

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sent my son to a Catholic school. I can't believe that this is gonna

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happen. It's gonna be alcohol there, and it's gonna be parties, and

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I can't believe. I said,
hey, look, you could spend your

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I go if you're if you're I
told them everything you need to know as

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a freshman coming in which you get
late. I didn't tell him about the

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bar. I just said, hey, look, you know you could spend

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your time in your studies, but
there's time to go out and party.

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But you got to make sure you
could do your work or you're not gonna

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make it in this in this in
this major, right, here's what to

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expect. Well, they thought it
was like this pure Catholic school where everybody

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wore shirts and ties to class and
blah blah blah blah blah. And when

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I wrote, when I brought the
letter to this professor, she was like,

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oh, this is this is harmless, Like why did you and doctor

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Seward our friends took up for me
and said, Dan would never write anything

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malicious. Why did you assume that? We think she looks at a volity

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end of my name. But anyway, the point is no. It had

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to do with the fact that if
somebody's parents freaked out right and you don't

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want to lose a potential student,
it's money. Here's what happens, and

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he still made the Hall of Fame. Here's what happened. This kid tried

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out for the football team and he
didn't make it. His mother calls the

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football coaches and asks if she could
buy a jersey for him to wear with

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pad and helmet on the sideline so
he feels like he's part of the team.

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You don't have to play him,
just let him be part of the

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team. Oh my god. Yeah, he ended up leaving after one semester.

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He was just he was just a
bitch. Doesn't everybody pretty much make

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the team in D three? No, no, no, no, that's

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not how it works. No,
you have to actually have talent. I

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think it was when I college teams, like some of these D one teams

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carry one hundred and two, one
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don't play. Yeah, yeah,
I don't. You have to have some

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level of talent. They're not gonna
waste their time because when you travel,

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I thought it was eighty five or
something. I'm fisher. Was there eighty

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five kids? I'm fit. I
think it's many as ninety nine or No,

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you could have a one hundred and
twenty, but only like ninety nine

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could be active and something like sixty
five on the road. Yeah, and

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that those are like you know,
NC DOUBA rules because they don't want to

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pay for all these hotels and everything. Else. Yeah, so but yeah,

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well I would just say, if
your kids going to college, let

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him be a kid and don't right
let him, let him learn that that's

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what college is. Life. Run
out of money, they're not gonna starve.

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Have fun, have fun. I
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of money, burnout of money.
It's like it's so mad with these sets

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Who helps Kevin get his son to Quinnipiac,

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This weekend is the Gerald Hares Memorial Race

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and Justin Harris from Phelps End Products
is on the line. And this is

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a big weekend. The final race
weekend Atlanta Legends Race Away in Canadegua and

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the fifth annual Gerald Hares Memorial Race
weekend. Yeah yeah, they made this

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race kind of a special race after
my dad passed away, you know,

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four years ago actually, But this
is the fifth running of it, and

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they passed away in July. So
the first year passed away, we had

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the first first annual running of it
and it's been to the big success every

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year. You know, cars and
people from all over kind of come.

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That's the last race at Land of
Legends for the year and looks like it's

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going to be a great weekend for
it too. What was your dad's involvement

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in racing at Land of Legends or
just in general. Well, you know,

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from a young age he always he
wanted to race, but his his

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father wouldn't let him, so he, uh, he owned cars when he

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was able to get enough money together
to to own him. So he said,

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well, if I can't drive him, I want to own him.

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So he owned cars for a number
of years and had you know, some

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of the top drivers you know in
the area drive for him. You know,

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some notable even you know Jeff Bodine
drove one of his cars before and

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Mike McLaughlin really yeah, Don McCready, Danny Johnson, Alan Johnson, just

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a lot of the a lot of
the you know, top guys. He

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was affiliated with a gentleman named Billy
Taylor, and my dad was a sponsor

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on his car for a number of
years. And then when I got old

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enough to you know, I always
from a young age I can waring to

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race, and when I was at
the age thought I was mature enough to

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get started, we got started in
go karts and then uh, and here

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we are, no, you know, thirty years later, I guess racing.

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All right, Well, we'll take
me back a little bit. When

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when you see your dad bought cars. Were they traditional stock cars that we

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know in terms of let's say,
what people see in in NASCAR, Jeff

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Bodin being being a driver in that
series or was this more the sprint cars

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and things that that you were doing. No, the car that Jeff Bodin

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drove that my dad was an owner
of section my grandfather and my dad owned

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it. They were called dirt ash
fallt cars, so they were similar the

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cars were racing now, but they
were specifically made to run on the ash

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fall. Back in the early nineties, they had a series that ran all

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over from you know, a swe
Go to Nazareth, Pennsylvania up in Canada

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pretty much the northeast kind of ran
all over about eight or nine different racists

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throughout the year and Uh, so
the car that my dad had and Billy

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Taylor was a crew chief, and
you know, they would always try to

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seek out, like, you know, one of the top guys and they

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would go out and uh, you
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So that's how they got kind of
hooked up with Jeff Blodon and Mike

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McLoughlin and you know they Doug Hoffman
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so that was that's uh, that's
kind of how they how we got

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started in the ashballs. So all
these people you were exposed to as a

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young kid. Yeah, we used
to you know, take off in the

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summer and you know, go to
you know, make a long weekend and

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go to you know, Open Quebec
to the races or even around here.

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And yeah, I was exposed to
at a young age and kind of kind

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of knew that's kind of what I
wanted to do. And uh and then

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basically the you know, the dirt
around here has just become so much more

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popular than the ashball stuff, so
we just kind of turned our focus on

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the dirt. Who who was the
biggest influence on you? I mean those

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are some I mean, you know, you you just name dropped. I

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don't mean it like that, but
I'm just saying, like you dropped some

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pretty big names, which are people
that you had access to who were very

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successful at all levels of racing.
So I'm just wondering who had the biggest

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influence on you. Was it one
of these guys or was it your dad?

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I don't I'm not, you know, it's hard. It's probably my

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dad, just because he had such
a passion, was such a passion for

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it, and uh so I always
wanted to be like, well, you

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know, if he's spend the money
on and these other guys going on around,

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good, hopefully I can I can
fill a seat and be able to

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to uh, you know, watch
you know. He was always you know,

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that's what he would care about,
was you know, work the business

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and racing was a hobby. If
he uh yeah, he tried to find

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a race, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, didn't murder where

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it was him. My mom would
travel to go watch races. So it

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was a big, big part of
our family. Was your mom a big

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fan as well? Sometimes that you
all of us, right, no matter

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what, are significant other, we
sort of take on their hobby so to

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speak even with guys. Sometimes you
have to sit down and watch a I

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don't know, a romantic comedy or
something like that. But was your your

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mom a big I mean I'm sure
she. I have seen her out at

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the race track, so I know
that she goes to this day and supports

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you. What is she a big
fan? Well, yeah, yeah she

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was. You know, they you
could spot them at a track together.

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They were always together, so she
was always a big, big fan of

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them. Yeah, that's got to
be pretty special for you because you've had

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a lot of success. You're the
track champion for the third year in a

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row at Land of Legends. Yeah, it's uh, it's it's definitely,

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it's it's it's pretty cool. Yeah, to win three in a row,

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there's only been Uh. I think
I was a third one to ever win

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three in a row in the history
there, which is something to be pretty

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proud of. And that's you know, I'm very thankful, that's for sure.

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Yeah. I mean I'm sure you
are. Did your dad see the

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success you were having? You know, I know that you said he passed

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four years ago. Uh, but
was he around to see some of the

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success. Had you been a track
champion prior or just winning races that he

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was able to be part of that. Yeah, I was a trade champion

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in a couple of different classes prior, Like I was a trade champer of

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the Sportsman division there at Land of
Legends, and then I won the three

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fifty eight champion at WEIG four and
you know, he was alive for that,

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but but never a big block one. We tied Matt Shepherd in twenty

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seventeen Atlanta Legends. But they consider, however, many wins who had the

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most wins as a champion. So
he had two more wins than me that

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year, Shepherd, so he was
considered a champion, but I was kind

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of considered as a tie. But
but yeah, he seemed you know,

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me win my first superter Series race
up in Brockville, Ontario, Canada,

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and we won two Dirk Car Winternationals
in Florida, which are some of the

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toughest races to win. We won
two of those. So he was he

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was. He never missed a race. I mean it didn't matter. We

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would we'd drive, you know,
six seven hours you know, to a

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race and then come back home the
night. And he was right behind the

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trailer every step of the way.
Yeah, that sounds like it was really

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a family event and a bonding thing
for your entire family. Racing. Yeah,

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you know, certainly has. You
know, my my sister is married

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to a gentleman. They raced for
a number of years and it's just a

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whole definitely a family, family affair. Hang on a second. Did he

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race in the same class as you
raced? Yeah? Yeah, I've actually

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raced against him for probably I don't
number a number of years. He was

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He was pretty successful a couple of
years ago. Hang on, Justin,

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did you beat him? He beat
me and I beat him. Did you

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ever drive him off the track just
just because he pissed you off? And

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you know that's my chol But I
always, I always did race extra cautious

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around them and nah, so that's
uh, it's always in the back of

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your mind. You know, you
got to be extra caust sure if you

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don't want to cause any problems in
family. Yeah, I understand. How

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would your dad feel if you went
around and introduced yourself as you know,

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the first thing you say, Hi, I'm a three time Land of Legends

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dirt track champion, Justin Harrison.
I think that should be your opening line

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to people, I think it is. I think it's impressive as hell because

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that's a sport that I mean,
man, I've watched those things. It's

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it's pretty tough. Yeah, I
mean it goes a lot of ups and

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downs and a lot of things.
You so we've have been very fortunate to

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win three in a row, and
it's uh, you know, like I

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said, yes, you know,
well, my dad he would be you

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know, he always had a smile
on his face and uh, he would

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definitely definitely be uh you know,
super happy if he was here. Yeah,

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I'm sure. Does your whole family
come out, the kids and everybody

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for this big race? Yeah,
definitely. You know they're pretty much there

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every week too. Yeah, this
is a you know, a deal where

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you know a lot of cars.
You know that's ten thousand to win.

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There's I think over one hundred thousand
dollars in purse money between the whole weekend

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going on. It's a it's a
huge race, and you know there will

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be you know, friends that I
haven't seen in years, and you know,

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just people fans, family as people
come from pretty much all over.

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They start camping tomorrow night. Yeah, there's some qualifying races and stuff tomorrow

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night, and not for our division, but other classes. So it's a

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it's the biggest weekend of the year
for racing in the Finger Lakes for you

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know, Dirk Carr I would say, yeah, it's it's a good it's

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gonna be a good time and let's
say weather's gonna be gray and looking forward

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to seeing a lot of people out
there. Yeah, because I see that

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the grand stands will open tomorrow or
tonight excuse me, at five because we're

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taping this and we'll we'll drop it
in, so five o'clock and then the

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hot laps will start at six thirty
in the heats kick off at seven to

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fifteen, and then on Saturday,
grand stands open at four. And it

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looks like the heats beginning at six
oh five, right after the anthems at

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six. Yeah, it's a one
hundred lap race, so it's an endurance

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race. You know, you gotta
it's a lot save your stuff and be

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there at the end. And you
know, typically I'm a Saturday, we're

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only racing thirty laps, so it's
you know, it's a lot longer,

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a lot longer race, a lot
more stuff can happen. A lot of

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traffic, you know earlier it's it's
a good time. Yeah, how do

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you prepare for that? Because that
is it's like three times as long as

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the traditional races you're doing on the
on the weekends at Land of Legends.

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Yeah, I mean the biggest thing
is trying to guess what the track's going

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to do over the course of when
you start the race to when you finish

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it, because obviously we're on dirt, so it just gets a lot slicker,

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and you have to make sure your
car is good enough at the beginning

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to I like to say, irrelevant
and then be better and everybody at the

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end. Do you change tires at
any point during the race? No?

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No, no changeing tires, no
fuel anything like that A hundred laughs.

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Is about just about the match.
You can go on fuel, okay,

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okay, so then yeah, so
it's just basically just drop the hammer and

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go Yeah. Well not that easy. You just go like that early on

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you usually bring your stuff up,
and then by the end of the race

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you kind of yeah, you know, I just all over the place,

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can't get ahold of the track.
So it's it's definitely patience, but also

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being being aggressive and patient at the
same time, you know, as as

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a guy who's had success and certainly
as you know, three time track champion

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at Landed Legends, do you practice. Do you ever go out and just

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do some laps just to get a
feel for the track on an off day

410
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or just kind of get feel behind
the car, or do maybe half fifty

411
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laps or something just to get the
feel of sitting in the car that long.

412
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:41,359
And it's a different style card,
it's a different you know, I'm

413
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sure you're feeling every bump and as
you go along. It's a lot on

414
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your body. Yeah. No,
Unfortunately they don't have a ton of you

415
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know, practice things to go practice, but you know, I've done a

416
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,359
long enough I kind of know what
to do to prepare. You know,

417
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we actually the first week in October
at a swego on the dirt. It's

418
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a two hundred lapper, so that's
our longest race of the year. So

419
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you know, something like that.
You're got pit stops and all that,

420
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and you know, you're just typical
stuff like being an athlete. You know,

421
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you hydrate yourself and stretch and if
you're sitting in a tight compartment for

422
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you know, two two and a
half hours possibly different and how many cautions

423
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:29,880
it is so cramps are a big
thing that could happen, and you know

424
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,519
you just just prepare yourself like like
as if you're an athlete. Yeah,

425
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:37,319
well this is a it's a great
race. It's the last one at Land

426
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of Legends for the twenty twenty three
season, fifth annual Gerald Hare's Memorial.

427
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It's Friday night and then again Saturday
night. You'll see Justin racing on Saturday

428
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night, the hundred lap race.
Good luck with everything man. Yeah,

429
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huge crowd from you know, I
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432
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state watch every every Saturday night.
And it's good for the audience stuff.

433
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434
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435
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really nice job. Land of Legends
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Yes we do. Week two,
billiates al right, Week two getting

479
00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:27,960
underway. So I bring this up
because we heard about it last night as

480
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,359
we were doing the podcast, and
then it seems to have taken on a

481
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:36,319
little bit more a life of its
own today. And it's Bill's reporter Mattie

482
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:42,160
gab Or Glab Glab and Maddie is
a Bill's employee. Yes, she works

483
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,559
for the team. She works for
the team. And she was asked,

484
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:58,400
I can play you the the audiot, just step on. He does what

485
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:08,079
he wants to do. That Okay, he'll look in my face and say,

486
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:13,160
f you. How everybody was he
late for the for the press conference?

487
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:17,319
I don't know these guys. She
was joking around on a hot mica.

488
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,880
But see here's the thing, He's
like, I don't even I always

489
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,119
think of a hot mic like you've
got a lapelon and you should know better.

490
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:30,680
Now clearly here, I've spent all
day for whatever reason, I spent

491
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:34,559
an hour today thinking about this,
and I go, what's really going on

492
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,720
here? What's what's the real thing? Like was this being fed out over

493
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:42,960
the internet and somebody watching because that's
hard to hear. I mean, I

494
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,640
jacked the ship out of that audio
for us to hear it. So what's

495
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:51,200
really going on here? What's the
real thing? Because I'm going if I

496
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,279
if somebody goes, hey, the
Bills are gonna be doing their press conference,

497
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:57,400
right they put out a tweet or
something. I check in, you're

498
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,720
not hearing that through your computer speakers. There's no fun in way, right,

499
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:05,079
So somebody put that out there,
and I don't think to get her

500
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:10,559
in trouble. I almost feel like
to spotlight what a diva Stephan Diggs is.

501
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,960
I mean, I want in a
way, it was just all the

502
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:21,599
reporters waiting the press microphones are on
because they're just not you know what though,

503
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,400
like they have they have employees,
but like there's there. They all

504
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,559
have multiple jobs. So someone if
they set the camera up, the MIC's

505
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,079
alive. They tested it out,
yeah, and they forgot to turn it

506
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:31,679
off and it's running and they're waiting
for like McDermott the gime. No,

507
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,400
I'm sure. I mean we've seen
it all the time where you log it

508
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,239
into a press conference and you can
see it. Yeah, Like whoever like

509
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,519
grab that screen, grab that clip
and send it out is trying to make

510
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:44,000
her or stuff look bad. Well
that's what I'm saying. And I go,

511
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:45,960
does it make her look bad?
Because she really didn't say anything bad.

512
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:49,360
She just said I'm not going in
there because he's gonna tell me to

513
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,360
get the f out of his face? Who doesn't You can hear the other

514
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,920
person she's talking to kind of chuckling
about it. Yeah, but who who

515
00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:00,960
doesn't talk behind their employees back right
or coworkers. Everybody's all in a way.

516
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:04,760
And I don't think what she said
was that bad because I'm going Steve,

517
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,880
he's the F word. She does
a podcast with I think she does

518
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,079
a podcast with Hide, not a
weekly basis, So she's got a relationship

519
00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:15,400
with the players. Yeah. So
that's my question is how does it get

520
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,599
out? And that's I thought.
At first, I thought, well,

521
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:22,800
maybe someone's trying to sabotage her,
and then I thought, I don't know.

522
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,719
And she puts out this apology and
you and I like saw it late

523
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,159
last night during was I want to
take ownership of what I said today,

524
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:35,079
I'm very sorry for what I said. I meant no ill will. I

525
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,280
respect the hell out of Stefan Diggs
and he has been one of my favorite

526
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,719
players to cover. He has great
character and treats us media with lots of

527
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,079
respect. I bet he doesn't.
I bet he doesn't. And the only

528
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,239
thing that it is is there now
we have a consistent pattern of step Stefan

529
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,599
Digg's behavior from multiple sources. We
heard about him getting pissed off and not

530
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,320
showing up to camp. We heard
about whatever happened at the end of last

531
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,159
season. We see him sort of
he's being called out for patting uh Josh

532
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:04,039
Allen on the head, which all
right, he was pumping everybody up.

533
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,679
That is there some kind of I
don't know here and it is it?

534
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,039
Is there something that to this or
not? I don't think so, because

535
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,840
if somebody's trying to make stuff look
bad, it might be the media,

536
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,960
or it might be some jackass on
Twitter. But honestly, it does the

537
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,679
bills no good to do that,
or anybody inside the organization to do that,

538
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,159
because you're locked in with this kind
you gotta pay him. So why

539
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:32,360
would anybody want this out? So
is it indicative of a larger problem within

540
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,480
the organization? That's that's my question. I don't think it's your reslation at

541
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,159
all. I think it's just some
stupid reporter trying to start something, all

542
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,360
right. I mean a lot of
reporters like start stuff like a couple of

543
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,960
years ago. Well, I don't
want to get into all of it,

544
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,360
but like report, every once in
a while a reporter will like try to

545
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:52,159
what they call gain clouds by putting
something out there instead of confronting the person

546
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,480
face to face like a man or
a woman. They'll put it on social

547
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,960
media and eventually they'll lose their job. Our buddy Bull lost his job because

548
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,960
of because of a co worker saying
something in a Bill's Beat reporter. Instead

549
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,639
of being a man, I got
confronting the guy. I put it on

550
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,400
Twitter, so you'll lose your job. And they placed this. They placed

551
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,960
this, dude, they all lost
their jobs. Your buddy Peters on the

552
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,119
line. I love Peter. Peter's
the greatest college football player in s Fisher

553
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:22,559
history. Defensive player. Here's a
defensive vent slash linebacker. He's hybrid.

554
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,320
And if there's a wall of fame, they put him on it. Yeah.

555
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,679
Does this stuff with Stephan Diggs bother
you at all? Peter as a

556
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,519
Bills fan. By the way,
checks in the mail, Dann, thank

557
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:35,159
you, checks in the mail.
Didn't following me. I don't know,

558
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,480
Bill, I you know, it's
one of these things on the heels of

559
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:42,800
the Terry Fagoula quote and all this
pleasy that's happening inside when Bill's dry.

560
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,599
I don't know how serious it is. I don't know how you know,

561
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,280
behidn it is. I just think
it's, like like you said, I

562
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,400
often we talked about in the past
when you get apologies, you know,

563
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,280
apologies are who are they written by? But it seems like, you know,

564
00:37:54,360 --> 00:38:00,119
she's she seems pretty since here in
her apology. I think this is

565
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,039
just somebody saying something like anybody would
behind Hey, hey, go get Dan.

566
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,199
I don't feel like getting screamed at
you go get Dann. If we

567
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,000
do it here before we go on, if I have the camera early,

568
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:14,079
people might hear you or me busting
on Dan, or Dan busting on you

569
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,760
or me. It's we're just that's
not But my point is the fact that

570
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:22,280
it got out when it's their controlled
media, right, it's the bills control

571
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,239
all that stuff, and they are
tight lipped with everything. They keep it

572
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:31,800
brilliant zero. Right. Yeah,
he's responded, dis responded on Twitter,

573
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,119
and yet he said, you know
how much you hurt him, and it's

574
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:37,119
just another distraction in a week where
you don't need distraction, right, just

575
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:40,440
another one. He I mean,
I do think the guy's a diva a

576
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:49,440
little bit, here's no question.
Okay, So but the bigger thing this

577
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,840
week, and Peter, I mean, Josh Allen is becoming as well known

578
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:58,440
for his erroneous plays as he is
for his laser passes and his leaps over

579
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:02,519
defenders. What did you see on
the tape? Because I have a theory,

580
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,800
but I don't. I didn't look
at the tape the way you did.

581
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:08,079
I mean, Bill, Yeah,
I'm looking at the tape with Josh

582
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:12,480
Allen this week. It's frustrating.
There's an old adage in football. It's

583
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,000
when you watch the tape, nothing
is that watched the game. Nothing is

584
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:17,480
ever as good as it seems,
and nothing is ever as bad as it

585
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:22,239
seems. Well, this week it
was. It was a little tough for

586
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,760
Josh and I don't want to put
all the blame on him. I'll give

587
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,280
you a specific example of one play
was in the first quarter when it was

588
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,400
third and fifteen for the Bills.
They were on I think the thirty five

589
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:37,239
yard line and they had to check
it down too. I believe it was

590
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,039
Damian Harris, but it was.
It was well blocked up front. Josh

591
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:46,400
Ellen rolled over to the right hand
side and if Dawson Knox runs the right

592
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,360
route, it is a touchdown.
And you see on filled where Josh Ellen

593
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:55,039
uses his hand to kind of direct
not he broke to the sideline where you

594
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:58,840
should have broke to the middle of
the field, and the way the Jets

595
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,840
had the coverage wide touchdown, Josh
got to throw off his back foot touchdown

596
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,239
and then I check it down the
Bill. So it's one little play like

597
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,280
that in the game that's so close
that makes such a difference. But to

598
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,239
answer your question, I'd love to
hear your theory, Bill, because I

599
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,199
feel like all week long off season
you hear Josh was gonna play with himself.

600
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,800
Get the ball in your hands,
throw it, throw a threat.

601
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:22,800
He's doing that right, but he's
having like a mental tug of war.

602
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:28,000
This isn't my game. I gotta
throw the ball. It's like having a

603
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,199
soda bottle in your hand and you're
shaking up that soda bottle. At some

604
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:34,880
point you want to open that soda
bottom up. And he's having a mental

605
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:38,559
tug of war with what everybody's telling
him he should do and what he wants

606
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:42,320
to do. You see it in
the runs. You know what they said,

607
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,559
we got to slide, get out
of it. Just he wants to

608
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:46,719
take a hit. That's his game, that's who he is. That's interesting

609
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,039
because and exactly, and then there's
a piece of me that says, please

610
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:55,320
don't coach that completely out of him, because those I mean, look that

611
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:59,840
toss where he ran up right to
the line and then it looked like he

612
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,559
was going to run into the end
zone and instead he tosses the pass and

613
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:05,880
he was still had his back foot
behind the line. Yeah, that wasn't

614
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,159
a play that he designed. They
did not design coach that. No,

615
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,360
those are the things I don't want
to see coached out of this guy.

616
00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:19,079
And on the other hand, my
thing was like I felt like he was

617
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:22,679
getting so frustrated and impatient that he's
like, well, fuck it, I'm

618
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,119
just going to do it my way
and just went in old school agreed.

619
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,880
And I think watching this and you
could see it too during the broadcast,

620
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:37,159
I think Josh needs a coach on
the sideline. I understand that Dorsey is

621
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:39,280
he the guy to do it.
You know, there is his backup quarterback.

622
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,199
That's where I love having veterans his
backup quarterbacks that I've done it before.

623
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,000
Bill, take a flyer and get
Joe Flacco as on the field,

624
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,480
give him, give a roster spot
just to be that guy on the sideline

625
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,000
and the guys on the sidelines to
help Josh Allen. I don't know if

626
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,760
that's the case, but having a
guy on the sideline helps the guy like

627
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,960
that. Josh is still he's still
young, let's say six years in the

628
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:05,119
league. But yeah, we shouldn't
be at a point now. If you're

629
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:07,679
a Bills fan and you're a part
of the buff of the Bills organization,

630
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,519
you hear what he says after the
game, and Danny, I think I

631
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:15,920
said this to you. It sounded
great six years ago after the Houston playoff

632
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,000
game. It does not sound great
anymore after Week one versus the Jets.

633
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,679
No, it's the same thing.
I heard an interesting thing on FS one

634
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,440
today. Joe Burrow went and got
a haircut. Joe Burrow had the worst

635
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,960
game of his career last week.
He was termed. A lot of people

636
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,719
said that in Cleveland, Josh Allen
had a terrible game as well, And

637
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:43,079
somebody pointed out they showed Burrow up
at the podium today talking and somebody said

638
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,760
something, he's laughing about his haircut
and going yeah, and he's joking and

639
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,280
smiling and he looks relaxed, and
they go, that's Joe cool. They

640
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,039
go, the other guy is like
nervous Josh and it's going to have to

641
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:58,199
happen, and he goes and that
translates onto the field because in the red

642
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,920
zone, Joe Cool is pretty good
in the red zone. Josh Allen has

643
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:07,119
five interceptions over the last or whatever
it was, and so that kind of

644
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:08,719
thing. And you do you see
this pressing? Do you not, Peter?

645
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,800
You see like this pressing, pressing
with him like he's got to do

646
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,880
it all. Are they asking too
much of him or have they in the

647
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:22,280
past. I feel yes, I
feel they're asking too much in terms of,

648
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:24,480
hey, type it down a little
bit. You don't have to you

649
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,840
don't have to get six points every
play, which you don't have to.

650
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,800
I mean, look at him in
the first half. He was eighteen to

651
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,920
twenty one. Yeah, he did
really good, and he had about I

652
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,559
don't know over the over the entire
game only I should say, eighteen to

653
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:43,760
twenty one. Only five of those
completions were over ten yards. So he

654
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,440
likes to throw down the field,
but he's being reeled back in to throw

655
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,039
it a little get the ball out
of your hands quick, get it underneath,

656
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,519
which is which is fine. But
I think he wants to throw it

657
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,920
down the field, not all the
time, but sooner than later be caught.

658
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,039
He can. He has the talent
to do it. But I think

659
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:06,679
some of the mechanics you let at
with Josh Allen, he's telegraphing. He

660
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,840
throws a little too much like in
that one play I just talked about in

661
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:14,599
that third and fifteen his right away
his feet were set to throw it to

662
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:19,159
Digs on the outside towards in the
short tide of the field, where if

663
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:22,039
his eyes would have just taken him
back to Dawson Knox and again Dawson ran

664
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:27,320
the wrong rap. But he's just
he's his head's already set, his mind's

665
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,880
already set with what he wants to
do. At least it shows that early

666
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,599
on, and especially you know this
is only week one, but it's a

667
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:38,760
little it's a little concerning if you're
a Bills fan. He needs to the

668
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,320
maturity has to come out this week. We have. You have to see

669
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,920
it now and then you any type
of reeling that's going to happen. Wasn't

670
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,559
accuracy to knock on him coming out
of college though too. It was,

671
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,039
Yeah, that was the number one
knock. Everybody thought, well, here

672
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:59,599
we go, we'll get him another
Jay Annual uh is gonna be the problem.

673
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:02,599
They call it area code issues,
right, they have area code issues

674
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:07,079
as well. Yeah, he's obviously
overcome that, but you know, you

675
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:10,119
feel like one one step forward,
two steps back, and to have it

676
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,400
happened the week, what's that you're
reverted back to? The accuracy is no,

677
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:20,960
I don't think because the short The
short game was okay. His interviewing

678
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,519
game was fine, but you also
have to have some game plan to get

679
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:30,119
him in a position to have different
receivers in different spots, in different He's

680
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:32,119
got to read his progressions right,
different levels of the field, you know,

681
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,679
second, second level, third level, et cetera. I didn't see

682
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:38,559
a ton of that. I'm not
saying Dorsey was called a terrible game.

683
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:43,599
There was some places that were just
come on. But you know, again,

684
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:45,719
I think there's a lot of things
going on here. I think Josh

685
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,400
is having an internal tug of war
with what he wants to do versus how

686
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,320
he's being coached. I think Dable
not being there is a big reason.

687
00:45:54,639 --> 00:46:00,719
I think there was so much that
Dabele did, but these are all correctable.

688
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:07,119
He's just got to overcome that mental
word that he's having. And again,

689
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:09,679
we're not inside everybody's head and it's
impossible. This is just my in

690
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:15,840
my opinion. But my biggest concern
for Monday Night's game was that was the

691
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,800
D line. That was my biggest
frustration. You're the first person I've heard

692
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,239
say that, Peter, Yep,
yep. And you know I didn't.

693
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,920
I didn't go through every single play, but I went. I went to

694
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,400
some big play, especially the big
runs, the big runs that brief Hall

695
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,119
had and the one h three yard
run and the first run of game.

696
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,559
It's just lack of discipline. It's
just it's without getting into the the you

697
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:42,280
know, the football leagues and the
terms, it's just lack of discipline.

698
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,559
It's not doing your job. It's
not playing. You're one to eleven.

699
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:47,159
It's funny why you bring that play
up, because that was the play where

700
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:52,760
I went man. That cornerback Benford, I mean, he hustled on that

701
00:46:52,800 --> 00:47:00,039
play that he never gave up.
He saved points. But right, but

702
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:02,119
that that's the stuff I did.
I saw Vic Dermots and these are the

703
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:07,239
highlights. We should be showing young
people how to play the game. Don't

704
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,800
give up. This is how you
play the game. But but this guy

705
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,920
I mean, you know, you
had people taken for that position, that

706
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,840
he's beaten down on the field and
is starting opposite Trey White, and that

707
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,760
that kid was a hustler. Was
there anything any positives that you saw on

708
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,039
this tape? What tape? Does
he see? Danny, He's got the

709
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:30,400
All twenty two? Okay, everybody
coaches, there's no secrets anymore. Yeah,

710
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,760
like everybody gets it. No,
yeah, yeah. The best part

711
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,480
about the All twenty two is you
get two angles per play, so you

712
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:39,239
get the overhead version and then you
get the inside which shows the line of

713
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,880
scrimmage. Do you really get a
slavor of everything on every play? And

714
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,920
that's that's that's the beauty of football. I mean, there's twenty two different

715
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,079
things happening at the snap of football. Sure, that's why coaches say I

716
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,280
have to watch the tape. They
mean it, there's twenty two different things

717
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,880
happen. What what? What good
did I see? Just the explosion of

718
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,159
the D line in the past for
us was really good. Okay, especially

719
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,880
from the from the ends, you
know, from from the guys that you

720
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,920
needed from Greg Russell, Leonard Floyd. The explosion from a password standpoint,

721
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,559
that's very good Milano, incredible.
Can't lose this guy. He's got to

722
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:16,440
stay healthy. Cannot lose him.
He does suci a good job on the

723
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,559
inside. He has no fair,
no fear at all. Yep. But

724
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:27,400
your interior line ed concerned me at
all. For number ninety one, Yep.

725
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,800
Leonard Floyd's ability to take on the
run concerned me a little bit.

726
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:38,440
It's just just a lack of discipline
concern me. Just too many guys trying

727
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:44,679
to do someone else's job. Do
your job, do your one eleven and

728
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:50,519
you're not going to have an eighty
three yard running against ye play Danny.

729
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:52,199
Why don't you can anybody get all
twenty two? You have to pay.

730
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,880
If you pay for NFL plus premium
for seventy nine ninety nine, you get

731
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,599
all of it. You get a
thirty minute condensed game after the game,

732
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:04,039
can watch the entire game of every
game, every NFL game. Oh yeah,

733
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,440
how many games do you watch it? Or loves football? I love

734
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,639
film. I'm a junkie a coach. Rosber just made me a junkie with

735
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,000
film. Why don't you Why aren't
you coaching? Yeah, you know,

736
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:22,280
I took a different career path,
but uh, I do I do some.

737
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,400
I do some announced I do some
announced game okay, uh yeah,

738
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,559
I do some stuff for college down
here on ESPN, plus some stuff.

739
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:31,480
So I do that. It's a
hobby as a passion, really, and

740
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,400
I love watching I love watching film
because again like nothing lies on the film.

741
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,639
Our friend Rick Huntley from the Plug
is here, and Rick, do

742
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,000
you have that too? Yeah,
I was gonna say, because I'm a

743
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,800
season ticket holder. So if you
are a season ticket hold with the Bills,

744
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,559
you get it free. You get
the All All twenty two. It's

745
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,920
called NFL Game Pass, so you
can watch any game. Like you said,

746
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,719
it replays any game literally like forty
five minutes after the game airs.

747
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,519
You can rewatch it and see the
either a condensed game game, the full

748
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:02,559
game, or the All twenty two
or the team. You really don't need

749
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:06,440
to write. You really don't need
to unless you want the live experience.

750
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,920
You really don't need to get the
ticket. You really don't because she got

751
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,119
stuff going on and want to wait
till Monday. So as a season ticket

752
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:15,360
holder, everybody who's a season ticket
holder for the Bills gets that. Yeah,

753
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,159
for any NFL team, for any
NFL team. Yeah, And then

754
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,159
the Loggins are doctor Greg Connors,
the number one lawyers you get. Do

755
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,239
you watch the All twenty two?
I don't personally watch it. I know

756
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,639
it's available because there's no sound.
Yeah, it's kind of so, Peter,

757
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:36,159
there's no sound in that. This
is film like they're seeing and that.

758
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,719
So this is the exact film that
the players are and the coaches are

759
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,679
taken. There's one thing they there's
one thing they take out of this.

760
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,760
And that's interesting. You said they
at least in the Jets game here,

761
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,000
now we haven't. Obviously we're not
in the week two and plus the Jets

762
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,920
game, they did not show the
clock in the down a distance so and

763
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,079
in the past they have, but
I don't know if they took it away

764
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:00,239
this year for a reason. But
usually they show the clock in them down

765
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,400
to this and so luckily I wrote
down and I was watching it live.

766
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,159
I wrote down the down editions in
the yard line and he logs every place.

767
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,000
He sent me a text after the
first trive he goes, Okay,

768
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,679
where twelve personnel? We have kids, don't you have? He's got two

769
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,719
little ones. How do you find
there all in the seven month old?

770
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,039
I don't know. I gotta take
my wife of salary. That's basically what

771
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:25,719
I have to do to make sure
too. Yeah, but for the kids,

772
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,159
they could sleep sleep right. They're
being traded right month old, you

773
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:35,559
could be holding a watch, you
know. You know that Peter hooked on

774
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:38,239
film was Junior Poles. He played
in the NFL. He was Peter's position

775
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,320
coach. His son, Ryan Poles
is now the general manager of the Chicago

776
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,760
Bears. Yeah, and ironically,
coach Paul's is coming over here, Danny

777
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:51,159
h Saturday night. We're having dinner
at my house. He's going to be

778
00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:54,760
here, ye yep. Because the
game, yep, yep. You're good

779
00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:01,039
to have some time within the game. The Bears fields, what's going on?

780
00:52:01,039 --> 00:52:08,000
I mean, Swaine Edmunds went there
because it was a rebuilding because tax

781
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:13,119
free, well not really, justin
fields is not going to cut it from

782
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:15,159
him. It's not a franchise school. But Brian Poles played as smart because

783
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:16,880
he's like, look, if this
kid works out, I don't have to

784
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,039
waiste an early pick on a quarterback. I could trade back and get more

785
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:22,960
picks if he sucks. Guess what
we're gonna be a perfect position. They

786
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,599
had a quarterback and there's about five
of them. This might be the Peter,

787
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:29,599
the greatest college class ever coming out
next year, if everybody comes.

788
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:32,440
I think it's very talented, very
talented coming out. So you know,

789
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,000
it remains to be seen. Yep, yep. And he built that line,

790
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,360
Ryan built, rebuilt the offensive line, and they did not look good,

791
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,920
too good, too good on on
Sunday against Green Bay. So it

792
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:46,719
often runs too early. Yeah well
yeah, yeah, true, too true

793
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,480
too sort of the problem. Uh, Peter, what do you think the

794
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:54,280
chances are against the Raiders? I
would assume. I mean, I like

795
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:59,039
their chances. I you know that
that spread what's at eight nine nine points

796
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:02,199
seem a little hig for me.
But I just worry about you know,

797
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,679
Jacobs, he's a good runner.
They played a lot of twelve personnel to

798
00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:08,920
do the Raiders. They got two
tight ends, one running back, and

799
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:13,000
they're gonna they play smash mouth when
they want to run the football. They'll

800
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,480
come at you. And if they're
watching the Jets game, they could be

801
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:22,320
looking their chops. As long as
the Bills played at a sound, disciplined

802
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,639
defensive line football on Sunday, I
think they'll be fun. But if they

803
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:30,559
start jumping gaps, they start going
outside where they shouldn't be. It could

804
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:32,840
be a long day defensively for them. But I think Josh Allen's going to

805
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,519
bounce back for sure. Now on
Monday Night, you know, they knocked

806
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:38,480
out Aaron Rodgers and Zach Wilson came
in. He just didn't make any mistakes

807
00:53:38,519 --> 00:53:42,960
and they beat them. So the
Raiders Jimmy Garoppolos their quarterback. Now,

808
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,159
he used to be a forty nine
ers quarterback and he's had a lot of

809
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:47,679
injury problems, so it wouldn't be
surprising if he gets knocked out. The

810
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,039
guy you gotta be careful of is
Aidan O'Connell, the backup. This guy

811
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:55,480
got a lot of preseason praise and
people are saying that the head coach,

812
00:53:57,079 --> 00:54:00,039
Josh McDaniels finally has his own love
Pacloyolic, I'm brady that he can mold

813
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:02,760
into his image, and I'm not
I don't take much stock in preseason,

814
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,960
but people were like Peter like applauding
this dude, like, oh, this

815
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,440
guy's got it, and it's just
gonna be interesting to see if that plays

816
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,639
out. If that happens well,
if it plays out, and then you

817
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,920
get into live action. It's on
the road. I mean, it's a

818
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:21,239
different environment, but it's interesting.
Perfect in preseason, what did he do

819
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:27,639
against San franc Yeah, live action
in the regular season. It is boy,

820
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,760
it's it's something that allose film guys
were like touting this kid, like,

821
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,400
oh, I look if the kids
got talent, and I bet he'll

822
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,800
be something. I'd say. It's
gonna be interesting to like see what happens

823
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,599
when there's live real, real,
live action. That's true, it's gonna

824
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:42,519
be one because ye Jari Garoppolo is
not mobile. I don't. I don't

825
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:45,079
believe. So it'd be interesting to
see how the Bills come out on Sunday

826
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:49,199
because they came out of man coverage
Aaron Rodgers. They're not worried about him

827
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,400
wearing the football. You know,
man coverage, you have the you worried

828
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,480
at the defensive back turns, they're
back to the quarterback. Quarterback will run

829
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,880
and in the minute Aaron was hurt, he comes out. They jump into

830
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,840
zone against Jack Wilson to worry about
zach Arymon the ball one part right,

831
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,559
So they change a little bit of
their defensive teams. So you know,

832
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,320
we'll see there's a lot they have
to fix before Sunday. I think they

833
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,639
will, but it's just you know, it's it's it's waiting, it's weighing

834
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:15,199
on a fan base, it's winning
people talking about it, it's weighing on

835
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,800
the coach. So it's something that
has to be done. All right.

836
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,480
Well I like this. I like
this. I will say this. We'll

837
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,360
wrap it up on this own.
We hold our athletes to a higher standard

838
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,199
than we hold our politicians. I
was just thinking about that. Oh yeah,

839
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,760
with all the ship that's going on
with Biden administration, that it is

840
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,920
sound now and all the ship I
go. We hold our athletes to a

841
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,119
higher standard than our politicians, and
we hold our ode of ourselves. Yeah.

842
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:44,639
I was watching film on c Span
earlier and I didn't like the presidential

843
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:52,599
pressor one. Peter very good.
I really enjoyed this. Thank you,

844
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,000
Thanks for having me, guys.
Thanks bro, see you later on.

845
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,360
We do it every week with him, Yeah, absolutely, he wants to

846
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,840
do it every week, all right, whatever day works for him. When

847
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:04,920
we got we got to dumb it
down though, No, but he was

848
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,480
great. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, and he can get really

849
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,000
technical. Well, I think,
like I say, dumb it down because

850
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:14,280
I try to think of life as
the iPhone, right, as long as

851
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,280
it's it's it's intuitive, it's easy
to use. And not everybody's a deep

852
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,519
football fan, you know. But
I mean, here's the guy who's got

853
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,440
I don't even know what what free
moments you would have to look at ALL

854
00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:28,400
twenty two. You're running a business, you got a family. You know,

855
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:30,360
the same thing with Peter. But
it's just, uh, Peter's the

856
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,320
first guy I've heard talk about the
defense. Everybody's will wrapped up a Josh

857
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,920
Allen, Right, So he mentioned
the defense, and he showed me the

858
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,760
videos of guys playing out a position, and I'm like, Anette Oliver,

859
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,480
who they extended, I'm like,
oh no, he can't cant. And

860
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,480
Oliver has been a bit of a
problem for a while for guys who've been

861
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,280
watching, like the ALL twenty two, he's been saying that good. They

862
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,800
just don't think he's lived up to
expected. I think they want him to

863
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,119
be Aaron Donald. Yeah, who
is right? You know? Yeah,

864
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:59,119
that's it. We'll take a moment, we'll come back. We'll talk with

865
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:04,400
Rick Hunley for the plug in the
East few mall and something went down in

866
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,639
Brockport to see if we can get
an eyewitnessed. All that coming up as

867
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:12,199
well. We'll do that, but
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868
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the mall at Grease Ridge. Man, did we have a good time watching

869
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,639
the Bills, even though it's disappointing
in the end. Over there Monday night,

870
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great place to watch the game.
Got another game Sunday, one o'clock.

871
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905
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910
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I've cut it bad. Sunny Toy
with the body was waiting. You have

911
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:22,239
kids, you're hearing songs like this
all the time. All right, thank

912
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,639
you? But you know what I
was gonna ask me, how do you

913
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:29,440
select the music for yours? All
right now? I just put in like

914
01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:32,119
biggest Hits at twenty twenty three,
and this popped up, and I always

915
01:00:32,239 --> 01:00:37,440
I will tell you, like,
I'm very impressed by Taylor Swift. Okay,

916
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:40,480
how she's held her own, how
the tour that she does. She

917
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:46,760
seems to be as genuine as right. I haven't heard bad stuff. We

918
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:52,719
just see the article about Jimmy Fallon, who I'm spend a few minutes with

919
01:00:52,119 --> 01:00:55,320
in my life, and I like, and I hear this stuff and I

920
01:00:55,360 --> 01:01:00,519
have heard nothing, but like everything
seems to be I don't know, yeah

921
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:06,960
up and no, I don't I
think like they tried with the boyfriends and

922
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:09,480
she, you know, writes songs
about she's a young girl. Yeah.

923
01:01:09,559 --> 01:01:14,039
Yeah, it's like taking your diary
and putting it to music. I think.

924
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:15,360
I mean, you know, she
just happened to make some money off

925
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,440
of it. I don't know.
I would have never known it that was

926
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,920
who that was. But yeah,
it's had a nice little I was bopping

927
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:27,119
into its playliss. Yeah, you
took her right off your phone. It's

928
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,920
Rick from the from the plug in
East Few mall where man, I got

929
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,119
to think back to school had to
be popping over there. Yeah. We

930
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:37,760
were busy, yes, super busy. Good feeling. Yeah, that's good.

931
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,079
All right, Well I heard there
was a whole Jimmy Z told me

932
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:44,400
you had a whole back to school
and send him for the student for kids

933
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,519
who were going back. And yeah, so we did a few things.

934
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:52,599
What we always do is we try
to make sure prices are affordable. Yeah,

935
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,239
but one of the things that we
did was just we we did a

936
01:01:54,280 --> 01:02:00,480
scavenger hunt where we actually had gift
cards and we were like hiding them throughout

937
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:04,639
the store. We're just posting come
find them. Wow. So we knew

938
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,119
obviously when you have shoes priced higher
than normal, you know, we want

939
01:02:08,119 --> 01:02:10,239
to try to help. And that
was just another way of giving back.

940
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:15,639
That is really cool and all that
just done on social media. Whose idea

941
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,840
was it mine? Look at this? Yeah? I love it. You

942
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,519
just sit around and come up with
these things. A Yeah, it's literally

943
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:24,440
like what can I do differently?
Because you have to always you know,

944
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:30,320
just separate yourselves from the competition.
Yeah, so you know, and normally

945
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,280
we would normally do like, hey, ten percent off, five percent off,

946
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:35,280
but you know, to say,
hey, I got a hundred dollars

947
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,360
gift card, you just gotta come
find it. So it was kind of

948
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,960
like we did it before in the
past. But what happens was a customer

949
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:46,440
may come in looking for that one
shoe. Yeah, but when you're telling

950
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:50,199
them, hey, somewhere in their
stores one hundred dollars, now they're picking

951
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,519
up shoes that they normally wouldn't look
at because the gift card is inside of

952
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:57,000
it. So now they're like paying
attention to the details of another shoe.

953
01:02:57,639 --> 01:03:00,000
Did they find them all or is
there a chance I might find one around

954
01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:02,440
Christmas time? Well, we might
do more. It's kind of random,

955
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:07,800
but we did a total of seven
gift cards. I think my mother one

956
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,679
the Easter hit eggs, okay,
and then we couldn't find one of the

957
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:17,440
eggs, and all of a sudden
you started to smell it like oh later,

958
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,880
and I go, it's too bad. You know, the gift card

959
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,760
be great if you didn't if you
found one of Christmas time, that'd be

960
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,039
pretty nice. Yeah, well,
we'll do a few more. You know,

961
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:30,760
we we just try to stay creative
and you know, obviously we want

962
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,079
to make sure that you know,
people are now turning on their their post

963
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:37,360
notifications. Yeah, so that way
when we do post stuff like I just

964
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,440
did a post on my way here, here's some shoes that I say,

965
01:03:39,519 --> 01:03:44,039
Hey, there's like four options,
which colors do you like? So then

966
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:45,880
you know they can tell us,
hey, I like this color. They

967
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,519
got off people saying that they like
it's a New Balance okay, that they

968
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:51,719
like the white color. So now
we're gonna our New Balance starting to gain

969
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,800
a little popularity, not starting,
okay, not the ones you wear all

970
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,880
right. I was wearing New Balance
running shoes and everybody made fun of me.

971
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,159
I liked them for running. That
was this twenty twenty three. No,

972
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:05,840
that's why, Yeah, it was. Yeah, what happened because they're

973
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,719
an American made shoe it's an American
shoe company. Yeah, you know,

974
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,920
I would just say they kind of
change the direction of who's wearing the shoes.

975
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:21,119
So a lot of times smart the
brand ambassadors can help push a brand.

976
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:27,840
Yeah. Yeah, so Kawhi Leonard
Kai, I thought somebody happen Yeah,

977
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,000
yeah, so, uh who else
or is a brand ambassador for them?

978
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,719
In baseball? I see, I
see a lot of baseball play.

979
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:39,199
Oh okay, ye. So as
soon as she won, the commercially started

980
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,199
rolling yep. Yeah, so what
do we find in the plug? I

981
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,559
know, the wall Ezys and then
primarily Jordan's. Yeah, Jordan Nike.

982
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,199
Those are the Adidas. Jordan Nike
are at the top three. Okay,

983
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:54,280
yeah, and then you're starting to
do some New Balance. Yeah, New

984
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,719
Balance. I just I just made
a nice little purchase of about four different

985
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,880
styles and New Balance. But they're
specific models. As you know, New

986
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:06,280
Balance goes by numbers, So the
two thousand and two are the nineties sixties.

987
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:10,039
So those are the two brands that
I got. And I just got

988
01:05:10,119 --> 01:05:13,239
some cool colors for the store.
Okay. Brady just got his first pair

989
01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:15,400
of Jordan's for school. Of them
cheap little I don't know what. They're

990
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:20,320
probably nothing that would be a near
store. He was like, I got

991
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:25,800
some jazz. Yeah, well it's
it's the sneaker everybody wants. That's uh.

992
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,159
I love the whole thing behind it. But what is you're saying?

993
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:34,440
You put out what on social media? Justifications? A pole almost almost on

994
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:39,320
our story. So like there's some
shoes that's coming out later this year,

995
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,840
So Nike dropped like this, they
call them like sneak peaks. So they

996
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,320
do this video and they let everybody
know, hey, these shoes are coming

997
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:50,079
in the next four months. So
then we screenshot at every pair that they

998
01:05:50,159 --> 01:05:55,519
were announcing okay, and then say
hey, cop or drop or cop or

999
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:58,199
not and then it said yes or
no answer, and then we take that

1000
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:03,280
data because we get the the results. So one shoe may say seventy percent

1001
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:08,480
of our customers voted yes, I'll
get that shoe, and then the other

1002
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:11,400
thirty percent says no. So then
that gives us an idea of when that

1003
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,199
shoe comes out. Do you primarily
just use Instagram, TikTok, TikTok more

1004
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,800
ig, but more IG. And
it's the plug Underscore five A five,

1005
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:26,639
the underscore score plug underscore five five. Okay, the underscore plug underscore five

1006
01:06:26,679 --> 01:06:30,079
eight five follow that because that's some
great information. Same thing on TikTok.

1007
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,840
Yes, same thing on TikTok.
So it's the same handle. The underscore

1008
01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:38,320
plug Underscore five eight five correct,
because I think people want to have that

1009
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,440
thing. There's a call coming in
right now, and I'm going to grab

1010
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:45,559
this because a couple of people fell
into the canal. Yeah, in Brockport

1011
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,840
Saturday night. Now, this person
on the on the phone happened to be

1012
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:54,199
the good Samaritan that helped get them
out. But I don't know if they

1013
01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:57,280
were watching the submarine races. Did
you know they have submarine races in the

1014
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,880
canal? Did not one o'clock in
the morning. There had to be submer

1015
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,559
I don't know, but but uh, somebody that I think there were some

1016
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,679
were there submarine races going on in
the canal. That's our watching trains.

1017
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,440
Oh you're asking me, Yeah,
I'm asking you. No, I wasn't

1018
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:23,079
a submarine race. The only one
was racing was a girl trying to uh

1019
01:07:23,719 --> 01:07:30,039
keep her friend above float, yeah, from going underwater because he's underwater for

1020
01:07:30,199 --> 01:07:33,480
about I say, approximately like a
minute and a half. Yeah. Wow.

1021
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:42,199
So, UH say your name so
I don't mispronounce it. Clarence.

1022
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,000
I'm sorry. I don't know why
I had it as Curren. I thought

1023
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:46,400
I saw it as Corinth. I
must have seen it wrong. Uh,

1024
01:07:46,719 --> 01:07:51,960
but Clarence On. On your Instagram
you have GQ Clarence. You look like

1025
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:55,440
I look at the picture of this
guy. He looks like he stepped out

1026
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,519
of GQ. And then I see
a picture of him and he's standing with

1027
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:02,280
some other people. The guy looked
like he could play edge rusher for the

1028
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:10,239
Buffalo Bills. Like he's jacked.
Yeah, yeah, I try to make

1029
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,239
it to the gym as much as
I can. I played a little some

1030
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,079
of my pro football and everything,
and you know, I work out a

1031
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:18,520
lot, so I hear a lot
of time about my arms, and I'm

1032
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:23,079
like, I said, you gotta
eat your wheaties. You know, I

1033
01:08:23,159 --> 01:08:29,560
had that same problem. So Clearence, what were you doing out by the

1034
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,960
canal at one o'clock in the morning
to be able to be there to help

1035
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:38,760
these people? Okay, I'll make
a long story short. So one of

1036
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,600
my friends, UH end up calling
me out. He was out, you

1037
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,680
know, just having a drink and
he was at the bar. So I

1038
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,279
was just gonna go join them.
And what happened was I pulled my car

1039
01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:51,840
off, I drove from LB in
the Brockport and I got the brock Port.

1040
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,760
So as I jumped out, I
had flipplop songs and I was gonna

1041
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,000
change and some my sneakers in the
trunk. So is right across from a

1042
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:08,159
Rockport police station. I've seen a
cop he whips around the corner and then

1043
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,319
he parked his car back there,
and then there was another cop that cut

1044
01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:15,279
through the parking lot, and I'm
thinking, like, what's going on?

1045
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,399
Is there a fighting? Yeah?
And then I've seen a lot of people

1046
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,800
gathered over there, so I'm like
all right, and then I've seen the

1047
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,720
cop running over there. So I'm
like, you know, I wouldn't know

1048
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,199
what's going on. I'm like,
Joe, I want to know. You're

1049
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:33,520
like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, just just want to

1050
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,159
know. So and if I can
help, you know, I'm gonna help.

1051
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,199
So I ended up I ran across
the pavement of my flip flops.

1052
01:09:43,239 --> 01:09:46,680
It's probably about, I say,
about forty yards and flip flops. And

1053
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:55,760
then I see the one officer and
the second officer trying to pull this guy

1054
01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,119
out because they've got it's cement embankment
and they have that at different parts of

1055
01:10:00,199 --> 01:10:04,760
the canal, which I was Uh. I have a son who's thirteen.

1056
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:10,680
He was up visiting me about a
year ago and we were goofing around by

1057
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:15,880
the canal and he slipped like on
that edge. He was being funny,

1058
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,199
like playing feet in the ducks or
something. We're trying to get him to

1059
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:20,640
come out, and he slipped and
there's all slime and stuff. It's like

1060
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,760
a fish tank. No one's cleaned, right, so you can't get any

1061
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,399
footing on that thing. So there's
I mean, if that's where you are

1062
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,720
in the canal, if you can't
swim, you're fucked. And I hear

1063
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,920
like Pardner, but I forgive me, but but the but the and there's

1064
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,800
an undertow like we don't think of
it. You look at the canal and

1065
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,840
you go aheah, it looks fine
because I've been out there on a kayak

1066
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,039
and stuff. But no, they're
not a good nine feet deep, if

1067
01:10:45,119 --> 01:10:47,000
not more. Yeah. Right.
What we need to know is what that

1068
01:10:47,119 --> 01:10:56,199
forty time was in the flip flopsy
four thirty nine. It might been a

1069
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,800
four. Oh't no, maybe a
four or five. It's not bad.

1070
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,359
That's not bad. You felt a
sense of urgency to get over there.

1071
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,319
So when you get over there,
do you help, Like do you hold

1072
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:10,439
on to the officers as they're reaching
down into the canal? And what do

1073
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,760
you do? Because you're a big
strong guy. Yeah, yes, sir,

1074
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,760
yeah. So immediately I see the
bystanders. They're just standing there.

1075
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:21,600
There's like probably about six or several
people that's standing there. I'm like,

1076
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:28,279
what the heck. I see the
officer reaching. He's reaching over. Now

1077
01:11:28,359 --> 01:11:33,640
their alster he goes to reach over
too. So my instinct they're like they

1078
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:38,840
I guess they dispatched or whatever they
said. There's a guy that fell over

1079
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,720
in the canal. He's in the
canal or whatever. They're trying to pull

1080
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,279
him out. So I reach.
I was the third set of hands to

1081
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,239
pull him out, with the two
officers right along the side. He came

1082
01:11:48,279 --> 01:11:53,000
out face down, and then the
one officer he said, turn him over

1083
01:11:53,079 --> 01:11:56,159
on his back, turn him over
on his back. So he turns him

1084
01:11:56,199 --> 01:12:00,039
over on the back and then he
starts to perform CPR, hitting his checks,

1085
01:12:00,199 --> 01:12:04,600
hitting his check. But the guy
he was out, he was gone,

1086
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:09,159
like there was no life left.
He was like whip, you know,

1087
01:12:09,359 --> 01:12:14,560
like a limp gutty noodle like he
was. He was gone. So

1088
01:12:15,319 --> 01:12:18,960
it's like, oh my gosh,
you know, so one auser he goes

1089
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,680
to get up, so I get
up with him. The girl she's still

1090
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,079
in the water and you know,
it's about it's probably like four feet to

1091
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:30,000
the water, that embankment that you
were talking about, so possible to climb

1092
01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:33,319
up there. So the officer he
reached one hand down, I reached the

1093
01:12:33,359 --> 01:12:40,239
other hand down, and the girl, you know, we went to try

1094
01:12:40,279 --> 01:12:43,520
to pull her out, and it
was a tough time getting her out,

1095
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,479
so she put her feet for leverage
to try to get out, and then

1096
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,920
her grip was slipping from out of
my hand because she was so wet and

1097
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:54,640
it was slipping from the alcer over
there. We almost hit her up and

1098
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:58,079
then she was slipping back, and
I could just think in my brain,

1099
01:12:58,199 --> 01:13:00,800
I was like, no, guy, like, we can't drop this girl,

1100
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,039
you know, and lose her,
because we know she already just struggling

1101
01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:08,560
fighting to keep this guy up and
he's been under water for a minute and

1102
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,159
a half. So in my brain
so the worst was like, no,

1103
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:13,560
we can't let her go. We
gotta get her up and over. But

1104
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,960
the girls, I guess she worked
out too, because you know, she's

1105
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:23,119
a big girl, you know,
so she probably worked out too, you

1106
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:26,239
know, So it's a little bit
tougher getting over to h and baked.

1107
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:33,600
So we had to Clarence Clarence.
Not to be mean, Not to be

1108
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,960
mean, but you're saying worked out
and bigger, and my question was going

1109
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,119
to be the same thing. Did
she work out at the gym or did

1110
01:13:41,159 --> 01:13:48,479
she work out of the Z's Jimmy
Z's in Brockport. I think I'm gonna

1111
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:56,760
pass on that one, but Clarence
Clarence Clarence, we gotta say the gym.

1112
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,239
She Yeah, she worked out at
the gym. Hey, Clarence,

1113
01:13:59,279 --> 01:14:04,560
I'm time for how's L four five
in your in your back? You didn't

1114
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:09,439
need to blow out a disk or
anything, did you? No? Sorry,

1115
01:14:10,319 --> 01:14:12,840
But when I did go down,
I scraped on my knuckle. I

1116
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,600
scraped on my kneed because when we
were trying to pull her, I almost

1117
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,800
at that point in time, I
almost fell in there too, and I

1118
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:23,600
had to catch my grip. I
slipped out of my foot flip blops when

1119
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,479
we were getting the guy out,
so I almost fell in with her.

1120
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,399
So we had to fight. Letter
Man, Dude, if you went in,

1121
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,640
if that, if that, if
any video of this, Yeah,

1122
01:14:35,239 --> 01:14:38,640
there's got to be body camera video. If there has to be, Yeah,

1123
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,560
somebody usually you know, somebody's always
out the camera and The other thing

1124
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:45,159
is everybody films nowadays, right,
yeah. Yeah. It might have been

1125
01:14:45,239 --> 01:14:46,359
dark though at night one o'clock in
the morning. Yeah, but you get

1126
01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:49,560
you get the lights out there.
All you need is all we wanted to

1127
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:56,760
Shay Clarence getting pulled back in by
some and then the canal. That's that

1128
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,359
was very nice for you to get
to get involved. And I know that

1129
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,239
that woman had hurt her head as
well. Do you know what they were

1130
01:15:01,319 --> 01:15:03,960
doing by the canal, like one
o'clock in the morning, they were having

1131
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:12,520
a conference. Well, I know
there were submarine races going on and they

1132
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:19,640
were watching them. Well, it's
common that people like because there's a couple

1133
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:24,119
of bars that are by a canal, so common that you know, people

1134
01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:30,479
will go in the canal, you
know, yeah, yeah, or sometimes

1135
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,439
sometimes body parts come out for different
reasons. I understand what's happening in here.

1136
01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:36,960
I think I know what's happening,
But man, how scary though The

1137
01:15:38,079 --> 01:15:42,159
dude stands up, loses his footing
and falls in, and she says in

1138
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:45,199
the news she didn't know. She
knew he didn't know how to swim,

1139
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,600
so she jumps in to save him, which is probably one of the worst

1140
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,880
things you can do. And I
know that sounds counterintuitive, but it's so

1141
01:15:53,119 --> 01:15:56,760
hard when someone scared in the water
yourself. You know, you've pointed that

1142
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,560
out right, that she probably was
tired out. Well, well, Clarence,

1143
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,840
have you heard from these people at
all? I have not the friends

1144
01:16:06,079 --> 01:16:12,800
that the kids. Uh, well, so she has a son that he's

1145
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,119
probably like eighteen twenty one and something
like that. But I spoke to him

1146
01:16:16,199 --> 01:16:19,920
that same night, and you know, he's thinking and everything, and you

1147
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,600
know, I just said, you
know, God placed me in the right

1148
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,720
place at the right time, you
know, to come help, you know,

1149
01:16:27,119 --> 01:16:30,479
along with the two other you know, remarkable officers because I mean they

1150
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,079
were on it, you know as
well, so a big thing to them

1151
01:16:34,119 --> 01:16:40,199
as well. You know, so
everyone pitched in to save that guy's life.

1152
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,079
But you know she started out by
jumping in, and if she didn't

1153
01:16:43,119 --> 01:16:45,920
jump in, yeah, you know, who knows. Who knows. That's

1154
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,199
a good point because Rick just wrote
me a note saying I'm assuming that he

1155
01:16:49,359 --> 01:16:54,960
was revived. They both have left
the hospital since since the incident. Yeah,

1156
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,640
So that that's a great thing,
right, and that you did you

1157
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,399
did save she saved the life and
you helped say of her life because there's

1158
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,439
really no getting out of there.
That that's uh so that that's an eye

1159
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:09,159
opener. And now that the kids
are backing college only count now the question

1160
01:17:09,159 --> 01:17:12,199
I wanted did you make it into
the bar afterwards? And did you pay

1161
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:16,479
for any drinks that night? So
yeah, I did. I mean that

1162
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,600
to the bar afterwards, and that's
where her son thanked me. And then

1163
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,680
there's one girl I know that's a
bartender that works there and owner for a

1164
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,319
while. Yeah, her name is
Jesse. She's a great bartender out there

1165
01:17:28,359 --> 01:17:31,399
in about core and she ended up, you know, she Hey, you

1166
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,640
know I can get you some drinks, you know, in the house and

1167
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,359
stuff, and you know, I'm
not a person that drinks and drive.

1168
01:17:36,399 --> 01:17:39,399
And it's close to closing, tien, So I'm like, nah, I

1169
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,760
appreciate it. Anyways, thank you. Come on, that was God's reward

1170
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,680
for you. God puts you the
right place at the right time, and

1171
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,439
then put you the right bar at
the right time. He's got seventeen bubbles

1172
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,680
to go out and go back next
time. Come on, man, I

1173
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:57,319
think that what Clarence, what your
last name is that Carrithers? Yes,

1174
01:17:57,399 --> 01:18:01,840
the Carrithers. What do you do
for a thing, sir. I actually

1175
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,760
I own my own company now it's
a gutter company. So I put up

1176
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,520
gutter on people's houses. I do
gutter cleans, uh, gutter pitch and

1177
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:15,239
gutter sailings. I do. What's
remove all? What's the flights? What's

1178
01:18:15,279 --> 01:18:19,079
the name of the business, Uh, CFC Gunner pro CNC gutter Pro.

1179
01:18:20,319 --> 01:18:24,600
Yes, sir, okay, And
you got a website people can find you

1180
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:29,359
online? I do. I'm in
the process of doing a website, but

1181
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,119
I haven't got it up yet,
so I just go buy my phone number.

1182
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:35,760
So but I'm not sure. Did
you say you do Christmas lights too?

1183
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,279
Yeah? Yes, sir. Stop
overs here. Friend Matt at bTB,

1184
01:18:40,399 --> 01:18:42,760
he's looking for somebody to put up
Christmas slates this year. Yeah,

1185
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,279
he is bTB. And then Rechurch, Yeah, he is looking for people

1186
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:48,319
to do that. But uh,
do you have Do you have a Facebook

1187
01:18:48,319 --> 01:18:53,359
page or anything where people might be
able to find you. Yeah. G

1188
01:18:53,600 --> 01:19:01,439
two Clarence GQ Clarence. Why why
GQ Clarence His hero was taken? Because

1189
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,800
because I mean, I always been, you know, a free, dapper

1190
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,840
guy. You know, once upon
a time. You know, my mom

1191
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,039
she told me, I was handsome
and I ran with it. So well,

1192
01:19:14,119 --> 01:19:17,319
everybody, hang on a second,
everybody's mom lies to him, and

1193
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,520
sister has everybody's mom line. But
I said, at the beginning of this,

1194
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,640
I saw your picture. You are
a handsome guy. You are handsome,

1195
01:19:26,039 --> 01:19:31,000
that is true. Appreciate appreciate it. Yeah, but so the when

1196
01:19:31,039 --> 01:19:35,279
you introduce yourself as GQ, do
the ladies laugh or do they they like

1197
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:41,760
it? Or do you have a
lady in your life? First off,

1198
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,520
GQ, you know, it's just
you know, because if you're if you

1199
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,039
make it to the GQ magazine,
it's like it's big. You know,

1200
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:54,000
all the celebrities are in there and
everything, and and they're all snazzy and

1201
01:19:54,079 --> 01:19:58,039
everything. So I just attached the
GQ to the front. But my real

1202
01:19:58,119 --> 01:20:00,439
name is Clarence, but the GQ
because you know, those sandy and everything,

1203
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,840
so in front of there, you
know, I like it. So

1204
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,600
I know. We talked about your
weightlifting. Now, I have a twenty

1205
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:14,279
one year old son who did his
first powerlift competition, and but he did.

1206
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,800
Yeah, he didn't know anything about
it. He didn't know like any

1207
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,479
of the rules or anything. He's
on a Roberts Wesleyan's track team. He's

1208
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:25,000
a thrower, so he went in
there and you have to wear a singlet

1209
01:20:25,039 --> 01:20:27,800
and he didn't have one, so
he had a barrow one and then his

1210
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,439
underwear was sticking out, so they
cut cut the underwear. They cut his

1211
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:36,039
underwear, but he came in third. So I'm gonna brag. I'm gonna

1212
01:20:36,079 --> 01:20:45,279
ask you how much do you bench? How much do I bench? Because

1213
01:20:45,359 --> 01:20:48,000
right now, you know, it's
so funny. I'm actually I'm in Betavia

1214
01:20:48,119 --> 01:20:53,359
right now, and I was inside
of Planet Fitness, and uh texted him

1215
01:20:53,399 --> 01:20:58,720
back and forth and as far as
you know, callin Bill, Yes that's

1216
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,479
me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's you. So I'm like,

1217
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,640
oh, shoot, I gotta run
through a plant at call you. I'll

1218
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:10,479
actually at the gym right now.
But everything in this gym, Everything in

1219
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:15,640
this gym ridiculous, all right,
because I'm okay, yeah, So this

1220
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,359
was I don't know. There's rules
to it, like you got to hold

1221
01:21:17,399 --> 01:21:21,119
it for so many seconds at your
chest and then hold it for so many

1222
01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:26,119
seconds up and there's signals that they
give and he didn't know any of that

1223
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:30,000
stuff. And I think he said
bench wise, he only did. I

1224
01:21:30,079 --> 01:21:34,159
think he dropped out of three fifteen, like he couldn't do the three fifteen

1225
01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:39,000
and hold at one point it was
but still not. No, he came

1226
01:21:39,039 --> 01:21:41,720
in third in his in his weight
class, and I don't I think he

1227
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:45,880
weighs one hundred and ninety pounds.
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's

1228
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,640
really good though for one ninety three
fifteen. Yeah, he's a he's a

1229
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:55,800
pretty strong kid. But uh well, congratulations. Uh you certainly were in

1230
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,199
the right place at the right time, and you help some people, and

1231
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:00,760
I'm sure the office or even thanked
you. And I bet if you uh

1232
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,439
no tickets and brock Port. Yeah, that's I think that's a good thing.

1233
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:10,279
I like that. That's very smart, very smart. Had you had

1234
01:22:10,319 --> 01:22:16,920
those drinks and the cops pulled over
a little bit like but officer, I

1235
01:22:17,079 --> 01:22:20,279
just yeah, all right, go
ahead, yeah, get out of jail

1236
01:22:20,359 --> 01:22:26,199
free card. That's very funny.
I'm sorry, thank you for letting us

1237
01:22:26,199 --> 01:22:30,319
to interrupt your workout. Clarence.
Oh, that's fine, I got time,

1238
01:22:30,399 --> 01:22:33,359
you know, I'm on a break
no judgment at Planet Fitness. Yeah,

1239
01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:38,520
it's a judgment free zone. Thank
you, and good luck with everything.

1240
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,560
Very welcome, take care of Thanks
for reaching out. You got it

1241
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,039
see and c gut her pro check
him out. That's uh wow man.

1242
01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:48,880
How about that guy pulling somebody out
of the canwn? That's all. You

1243
01:22:49,039 --> 01:22:51,880
just never know what's gonna happen.
Yeah, do you ever have to rescue

1244
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:58,439
anybody? You didn't have a wal
mall walker go down outside of the plug

1245
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,000
and you had run out. One
time, my wife and I we were

1246
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:03,960
in Toronto. No, wasn't Toronto. We were in Canada at Swish La.

1247
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,119
Remember the guy did he fall or
we just need to help? Like

1248
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,479
he did he fall? Yeah?
So he was. It was a guy

1249
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,199
with his dad. His dad was
like he was probably a hundred huh and

1250
01:23:15,119 --> 01:23:21,079
he was seventy oh yeah, so
he was in. The guy even actually

1251
01:23:21,239 --> 01:23:28,119
offered us to stay at his cottage
in in uh in Canada. We never

1252
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:30,600
went because the dates were always off. But we helped him because he was

1253
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,720
literally about to fall out of the
wheelchair. Trying to get him in the

1254
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,119
car. You were walking out.
So my wife being a nurse, she

1255
01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:40,560
stepped right in and yeah, and
then of course she steps in. You

1256
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:45,359
have to just had a guilt.
Come on, watch her, he can't

1257
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:51,960
stand there. Go wow, I'll
go get our car. Yeah, he

1258
01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:58,960
took a picture, start recording.
All right, Well, the things are

1259
01:23:59,279 --> 01:24:02,199
good at the plot. Thank you
for all your support. I love when

1260
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:05,359
you're in love to have you in
a semi regular basis. I know things

1261
01:24:05,399 --> 01:24:09,960
are busy for you. It's slowing
down now. Obviously we're gonna rent back

1262
01:24:10,079 --> 01:24:13,920
up obviously in November. Yeah,
so I can definitely try to pop in

1263
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,680
maybe once every two weeks. That'd
be great. That it would be great,

1264
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:21,239
Thank you very much. We shall
take a moment. There's some political

1265
01:24:21,319 --> 01:24:26,119
stuff happening, and we'll check in
with an old professor from Saint John Fisher

1266
01:24:26,199 --> 01:24:30,079
College, doctor Bowers, get a
look at all that stuff. We'll do

1267
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:33,479
that next, but first Cobblestone on
Maine. You know what I love is

1268
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:39,840
when local restaurant guys support local restaurant
guys. Earlier today, Damian Ulconry from

1269
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,520
Molconer's walked into my studio and he
said, Hey, you want to go

1270
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,760
to lunch with me at Cobblestone on
Maine. And I said, I wish

1271
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:50,039
I could. I love that place. The food is fantastic, upscale bar,

1272
01:24:50,359 --> 01:24:55,920
fun atmosphere, intimate dining. It
is the perfect place to casually hang

1273
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:00,600
out or to actually have a sophisticated
date. Does that sound corny to say,

1274
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,039
but you know what I'm saying,
like just a nice time where you

1275
01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:05,960
know, like everybody else in the
room disappears. It's just you and the

1276
01:25:06,079 --> 01:25:10,840
person you're dining with across from from
each other at the table and you just

1277
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:15,319
kind of immerse yourself in great conversation
and delicious food, which is what you

1278
01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:17,279
get. It's all locally sourced menu
items and I'm telling you some of the

1279
01:25:17,399 --> 01:25:23,600
best best appetizers you're ever gonna have. Kraft Cocktails and the entrees Man,

1280
01:25:24,279 --> 01:25:28,760
you just can't beat. Cobblestone on
Maine, Upscale Bar, Intimatedning live music,

1281
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,159
fun atmosphere and eighteen hundreds. Cobblestone
Church that's serving at different kind of

1282
01:25:32,199 --> 01:25:35,880
spirits today. Cobblestone on Maine one
on nine West Main Street in the village

1283
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,680
of website. Friends. It's Jake, and I'm personally inviting you to game

1284
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,600
night. I would have never believed
at ten if I'm going to live the

1285
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,560
life I want, it will result
in Okay, get it. Wherever you

1286
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:50,560
get your podcasts, Jimmy Z's Plates
and Shakes, because the weekends here and

1287
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:55,720
they are Rocking Brockport every Wednesday through
Sunday. Go over there and get some

1288
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,840
of the best plates and shakes to
rock your lips. I am telling you.

1289
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,960
The munchies are phenomenal, the loaded
fries so good. Check out the

1290
01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:09,239
entire menu at Plates and Shakes dot
com. That's Plates and Shakes dot com.

1291
01:26:09,359 --> 01:26:12,000
And then walk in there say hi
to Jimmy and the crew. They're

1292
01:26:12,039 --> 01:26:15,479
gonna treat you well. Right on
main Street in the village of Brockport.

1293
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:41,640
And online at Plates and Shakes dot
com. About made Away the plan that

1294
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:54,000
red White to the che I don't
know if this is the h an appropriate

1295
01:26:54,079 --> 01:26:57,239
song to play or not, but
it did come out today that Hunter Biden

1296
01:26:57,279 --> 01:27:00,479
has been indicted on a federal gun
charges. And there's been a lot of

1297
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:06,239
speculation as to his involvement in certain
things and his father's level of involvement in

1298
01:27:06,319 --> 01:27:12,039
those dealings with Ukraine and what was
going on and the cocaine in the White

1299
01:27:12,079 --> 01:27:15,880
House. And I feel like no
matter what Biden did in the office,

1300
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,720
there was not a chance that they
weren't going to try to impeach him for

1301
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:23,159
something. Oh well, there is
an impeachment hearing going on, but someone

1302
01:27:23,199 --> 01:27:26,720
who could kind of put it in
playing language for everybody maybe to understand as

1303
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,159
you see these headlines, I mean
headlines now just fly at you all day

1304
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:32,680
long. If you get push notifications
on your phone, it never stops.

1305
01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:40,079
Is doctor Bowers retired from Saint John
Fisher College actually working on a podcast of

1306
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:44,760
his own. He was using the
studio and completely independent, but more of

1307
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:49,079
a like a course. He was
teaching with Arnie Rothschild. And Arnie certainly

1308
01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:53,359
has done campaigning and things that this
was on campaigning. And I think one

1309
01:27:53,359 --> 01:27:57,039
of the things I always admired about
doctor Bowers. I never had him,

1310
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,359
I was never a student of his, but why him was the constant curiosity

1311
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,319
And I always like that that somebody
wants to continuously learn. And so I

1312
01:28:05,399 --> 01:28:10,880
know you've probably been paying attention to
the Hunter Biden situation today, Doctor Bowers,

1313
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:16,600
Well, now I have to think
it if I wasn't first off,

1314
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:21,199
first off, a couple a couple
of quick observations. Had you ever had

1315
01:28:21,319 --> 01:28:26,039
me? Yes, I'm wonderful,
I'm wonderful. Yes, I've been told

1316
01:28:26,079 --> 01:28:30,199
that. That's why I have been
told that, I mean all bullshit aside,

1317
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,720
I have been told that from by
by stamps of your and the second

1318
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:39,319
thing, since you did open the
door for this, Yes, fortunate son

1319
01:28:40,079 --> 01:28:44,560
is about how the rich avoid the
war. Yes, So I don't know

1320
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:48,680
if it quite sits. So I'm
just I'm just saying it was I was

1321
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:53,479
thinking, I was thinking it was
your music while I was on hold no

1322
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,239
no, no, no no,
But I'm going, shit, this is

1323
01:28:57,279 --> 01:29:00,880
pretty good. So I was gonna
it would fit more for probably the Bushes

1324
01:29:01,399 --> 01:29:08,199
than it would for the Biden.
Well, anyway, enough of my jocularity.

1325
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:15,960
Okay, let's get serious. So
what is going on with Hunter Biden?

1326
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:19,600
Because they're trying to get Joe.
It really who they're after is Joe.

1327
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:24,119
But well he's not tied to any
of these charges with Hunter at all.

1328
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:28,359
Right, I think I think you
really, you really have to kind

1329
01:29:28,399 --> 01:29:34,399
of divide these things. Okay,
Yeah, And I'm looking at this situation

1330
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:39,199
with Hunter bid Biden, and I
think we even have to preface it this

1331
01:29:39,359 --> 01:29:42,439
way if we take his name out
of it, or even we leave his

1332
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:47,159
name in it, given that some
of these charges are related to his drug

1333
01:29:47,319 --> 01:29:50,039
use. You on the purchase of
a gun, lying about it on a

1334
01:29:50,079 --> 01:29:56,039
form that you are a drug user
kind of underscores just how much drug addiction.

1335
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,439
It doesn't matter if you're rich,
poor, white, black, male

1336
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,000
or female. So to kind of
put this in a little bit of perspective,

1337
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:09,680
in that regard, Hunter Biden probably
didn't do anything different than a lot

1338
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,800
of other drug addicts. I agree, and I think a jury I would

1339
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:18,520
be surprised if a jury pushed something
like that because because of exactly that,

1340
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:25,199
and who got hurt by it,
and and there you're opening the door I

1341
01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:30,640
wanted to enter anyway, because here's
how I'm putting this, and I have

1342
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,840
been listening to some of the analysis
things, and so I can't claim all

1343
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:38,239
this is original, But some of
the things that are coming out right now

1344
01:30:38,319 --> 01:30:44,359
in the news suggest that neither of
the things that he is currently being indicted

1345
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:51,840
on would most federal prosecutors do as
stand alone indictments. So, for example,

1346
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:56,479
one report I heard said, lying
on the form happens all the time.

1347
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,439
If we would take that to our
boss and ask for them to it

1348
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:06,039
allowed us to prosecute it, they
would have said no. So some of

1349
01:31:06,119 --> 01:31:11,399
this here's why, here's what I
really think is happening. I don't think

1350
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:17,439
uh, special counsel wife is politically
motivated. Yeah, had he been,

1351
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:21,199
he would he would never have offered
the plea deal in the first place.

1352
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:28,720
Right here, what I think is
a prosecutor and his team got embarrassed by

1353
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:33,800
a judge, and because a judge
who nor almost always accepts a plea for

1354
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:40,119
whatever reason, whether the judge had
political motivations, whether the judge just went,

1355
01:31:40,279 --> 01:31:43,039
what the fuck are you doing here? Because you don't eat this is

1356
01:31:43,079 --> 01:31:49,079
too broad, whatever the judge's reasons, embarrassed wife and his team. So

1357
01:31:49,399 --> 01:31:57,319
now they have almost no choice but
to appear tough on Hunter Biden. You

1358
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:04,239
okay, And so I actually think
existed a lot about faith saving of a

1359
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:09,880
special prosecutor, which, by the
way, give Merritt Garland credit for making

1360
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:15,119
him now a special prosecutor, which
he actually gives him jurisdiction to investigate Hunter

1361
01:32:15,239 --> 01:32:20,119
Biden throughout the country, not just
in one area. But this, to

1362
01:32:20,279 --> 01:32:28,560
me, there's a lot of prosecutory
faith saving going on here. And what

1363
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:33,079
that will then probably do is force
it into a new round of plea negotiations.

1364
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:43,640
So so I seriously doubt that this
unless Hunter Biden's own lawyers are batshit

1365
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,640
crazy, which I don't think they
are You're never going to see this go

1366
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:53,880
to trial, Okay, Rather I
suspect you're going to find a tougher plea

1367
01:32:54,000 --> 01:33:00,680
bargain. They kept referring to it
as a sweetheart deal. Was the first

1368
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,800
one the first well first one right
right? Yeah? Yeah, and and

1369
01:33:04,079 --> 01:33:09,720
and and again. So so I
don't you know so, so I think

1370
01:33:10,119 --> 01:33:15,680
you do have to kind of separate
this from what the and if I offend

1371
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,479
anybody your team, I apologize for
this up to a point. Uh,

1372
01:33:19,119 --> 01:33:26,279
this is this is totally separate from
what the mega midgets mental midgets in the

1373
01:33:26,359 --> 01:33:31,399
House of Representatives are trying to do
with their impeachment inquiry. Okay, And

1374
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,840
again, if I offend any of
your your your your your team there,

1375
01:33:35,039 --> 01:33:40,880
that suck it up. But I'm
gonna be honest, I haven't really followed

1376
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:45,319
the story as much as I should
have. He being indicted because his last

1377
01:33:45,399 --> 01:33:48,479
name is Biden? Is there is
there merit to this? Or is it

1378
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:56,159
because his last name is Biden?
I think it is it always it just

1379
01:33:56,279 --> 01:33:58,600
the two of you tonight, because
I'm sorry I was already trying to pick

1380
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,800
on you, no trying to do, but I think it is in this

1381
01:34:02,079 --> 01:34:10,319
context had this been one of the
three of us, okay, and we

1382
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:15,079
had gone to you had this a
plea bargain similar and a judgment what the

1383
01:34:15,119 --> 01:34:18,560
hell you doing? The fact that
our plea fell apart would never made the

1384
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:26,199
news, right, So it's it's
about Hunter Biden only because of who he

1385
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:31,199
is, and it embarrassed the prosecutor. I still really think this is what

1386
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:36,319
this set of charges is about.
They're not you know, they're not trumped

1387
01:34:36,359 --> 01:34:43,159
up charges, no pun intended.
But but yeah, it is about Hunter

1388
01:34:43,279 --> 01:34:50,039
Biden only in the sense that is
such a pro high profile name that it

1389
01:34:50,159 --> 01:34:56,720
embarrassed the prosecutor. So there's also
the impeachment inquiry right now, and I

1390
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,760
know that Republicans kind of looking at
that, and it was wrought to and

1391
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,560
I'm going to forget the senator's names
attention about Hunter Biden today, and he

1392
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,279
goes, I really don't care because
Joe's not attached to any one of these

1393
01:35:06,399 --> 01:35:10,720
charges. Those aren't the charges I'm
interested in. So it's almost as though

1394
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:16,079
no one with any kind of power
or political savvy had really thinks much of

1395
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:20,920
this at all. No, and
that too, by the way, I

1396
01:35:21,039 --> 01:35:26,079
also appreciate the vect you pointed out
it was a US senator. Republican US

1397
01:35:26,199 --> 01:35:30,920
senator. Yes, because the Republican
US senator, except for a small number

1398
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,159
of them, show a much higher
level political maturities at their house counterpart.

1399
01:35:34,319 --> 01:35:38,720
Yeah, the house counterpart. I
mean you are talking. I have to

1400
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:45,920
say, I would say that even
Republicans have to admit that the house counterpart.

1401
01:35:45,319 --> 01:35:51,159
You you have a mental IQ,
just really low IQ. Republicans in

1402
01:35:51,199 --> 01:35:54,800
there, I'm sorry, you just
do. Yeah, you do. And

1403
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,079
by the way, and I have
a fee. There's a few. There's

1404
01:35:57,119 --> 01:36:00,560
a few on the Democrat side too, but they glad. But but I

1405
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,000
know, but they aren't causing as
much trouble right now. But come back,

1406
01:36:04,039 --> 01:36:06,000
but come back to the Senate for
a second. I mean, you

1407
01:36:06,159 --> 01:36:11,439
really have hit on a number of
things here. The only thing you're going

1408
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:15,279
to see Joe Biden doing this is
what any parent would do, and that

1409
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:25,039
stand by your child. And he's
always has taken the position that his son

1410
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:30,600
should be held responsible. He's never
tried to deny his son was an addict.

1411
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,960
He's never tried to deny his son
has had a troubled life. But

1412
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:41,800
she's a loving father. So he's
and I do think if the Republicans are

1413
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,880
careful on this one, and if
they try to make too much hay,

1414
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:50,680
they're going to get some blowback in
twenty twenty four if this isn't resolved,

1415
01:36:51,239 --> 01:36:59,479
because there are so are so many
Americans, particularly those independents, who are

1416
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,760
already really Trump again. Yeah,
to say no, no, no,

1417
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:09,279
no, you don't your family,
you don't touch you leave family alone,

1418
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:15,560
particularly with addiction. That the key
here is why Hunter Biden, I think,

1419
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:20,720
also becomes kind of a sympathetic figure, though admittedly he doesn't help his

1420
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:28,680
own calls all that often addiction.
Addiction makes you do stupid things. Yeah,

1421
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:32,199
it does. So I'm sorry.
I was going to say, you

1422
01:37:32,279 --> 01:37:36,520
know, you bring up twenty twenty
four, and the question is for a

1423
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:41,960
lot of people, will it be
Biden again? Is Biden? Some people

1424
01:37:42,159 --> 01:37:45,600
question is he fits and run?
Would it be Trump again? Or is

1425
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:49,039
it going to be somebody like Gavin
Newsom out of California? And I don't

1426
01:37:49,159 --> 01:37:55,359
know who necessarily would be coming on
the Republican side. Yeah, well,

1427
01:37:55,560 --> 01:38:00,279
I think at this point, uh, a lot of the commentators, myself

1428
01:38:00,399 --> 01:38:05,760
included, should probably kind of quit
the political masturbation about other candidates Okay,

1429
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:12,079
it feels good to talk about it, but you know, the reality is,

1430
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,159
if all things continue to the way
they're going, you're going to see

1431
01:38:15,159 --> 01:38:23,439
a rematch between Joe Biden and Donald
Trump. You know. Now, again

1432
01:38:24,039 --> 01:38:30,239
again I'm not obviously saying absolute because
but but the odds right now would say

1433
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:38,079
that and from the from from the
viewpoint of the voting public, Hunter Biden

1434
01:38:38,199 --> 01:38:44,039
doesn't figure into their equation at all. No, that's not a campaign issue.

1435
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:49,199
Okay. Now when I'm look,
here's where I'm saying. You know,

1436
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:57,119
it's still early that let's if by
some chance, and there is a

1437
01:38:57,199 --> 01:39:03,039
possibility he might stumble in the Iowa
caucuses, if someone else then Donald Trump

1438
01:39:03,119 --> 01:39:10,399
comes in first in the Iowa caucuses, then it's a whole new game because

1439
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,439
because what it shows is he can't
do a ground game. Okay, and

1440
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:19,479
people forget in the Iowa caucus.
You know, there's rounds, and so

1441
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:25,760
Trump may start out in a plurality
or something, but then people go to

1442
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:30,399
their second choices when your candidates drop
out, it could come out where he

1443
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:36,840
wins that narrowly or loses it,
and that becomes opportunities. And so you

1444
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:42,720
know, I don't think we have
much to speculate on. I mean,

1445
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:47,760
we can always speculate, That's what
I do. But it's really January where

1446
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:53,560
we're begin to see or whenever the
Iowa caucuses are, is where we begin

1447
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:57,600
to see the real possibility. Because
even if you look at these these these

1448
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,920
court cases fun you may have New
York coming up, though it looks like

1449
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:08,079
that's temporarily delayed. You've got the
yeah, yeah, but that's that's a

1450
01:40:08,199 --> 01:40:14,520
formality. There was something in the
day that an appellate judge granted a temporary

1451
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:18,600
motion that the Trump people wanted so
a panel of five could review it well

1452
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:24,479
in New York State New York State
Appellate Division, I doubt is going to

1453
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:29,119
act against the trial judge in this
case. So it's a temporary delay.

1454
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:33,520
But but even if you look at
you look at the DC one is not

1455
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:41,680
set until March of twenty twenty four, okay, And the Georgia probably won't

1456
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:46,079
happen until the first part of next
year either, because she isn't she's not

1457
01:40:46,199 --> 01:40:50,079
going to get to try all nineteen
of them together. The judge ruled on

1458
01:40:50,199 --> 01:40:54,800
that today, basically saying, for
no other reason, we just don't have

1459
01:40:55,000 --> 01:41:00,720
enough space to accommic date everybody in
a courtroom. So all this legal stuff,

1460
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:06,199
you know, all our better speculations
are better notion of knowing what it's

1461
01:41:06,279 --> 01:41:10,760
more likely to happen. It's going
to be commenced at the start of twenty

1462
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:15,039
twenty four. Now, I don't
mean to go on and on right now.

1463
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:18,479
If you take just Biden himself,
I think Biden is adamant that he's

1464
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:23,479
going to run. Yeah, I
do too, and I and okay,

1465
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,640
I'm sorry, no, go ahead. I wasn't gonna say anything. I

1466
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,399
just I agree with you. I
think he is adamant, and I'm not

1467
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,680
sure. I'm not sure if I
feel good about that or not. Doc.

1468
01:41:33,239 --> 01:41:38,840
Well, here's here's I think people
need to get past the age thing.

1469
01:41:39,079 --> 01:41:44,960
Yeah, for this reason. Okay, uh, you know we are

1470
01:41:45,159 --> 01:41:49,439
an aging first off, we are
an aging society. Yes, we are

1471
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:58,319
seeing people longer and longer functioning well
into seventies, eighties, and early nineties.

1472
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,439
Okay. Now, now, obviously
the presidency is a unique thing.

1473
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:12,439
But we're not really seeing cognitive I
don't think there's any real serious evidence of

1474
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:17,600
any cognitive design a decline on Joe
Biden's part. Some physical well he's an

1475
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:21,680
eighty year old man, but he's
still active. Some of the things I

1476
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:28,680
think the people want to lead into
being cognitive is his old habit of stuttering.

1477
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,680
It slows him down, it slows
his speech. You've got vastly there

1478
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:41,239
should be vastly more concerned about Mitch
McConnell's state. And I'm making no joke

1479
01:42:41,319 --> 01:42:45,119
here, I know I agree with
you. It's almost scary because you don't

1480
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:48,319
know what to do in those situations
where he's it's almost think he's frozen.

1481
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:55,039
He's a frozen character at that moment. And now the day that happens to

1482
01:42:55,720 --> 01:43:00,000
Joe Biden, yeah, totally Now, so the only thing they're gonna take

1483
01:43:00,079 --> 01:43:05,720
Joe Biden out to this thing is
most likely something happened to his health,

1484
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:11,119
right, you know, And again, God forbid, no one wants to

1485
01:43:11,159 --> 01:43:15,960
see it. But from the viewpoint
of it being Donald Trump versus Joe Biden,

1486
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:24,319
I'm not I actually do believe that
Joe Biden is the Democrats and in

1487
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:30,520
some ways the country's best option against
Donald Trump. Interesting. Okay, what's

1488
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:34,439
it gonna take at this point to
get us back to the good old days

1489
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:40,439
of where it's not hardline I'm on
the right hardline. I'm on the left

1490
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:45,680
where we've got that middle ground is
coming through more. Is that popularly can

1491
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,720
ever come back? Or is that
are we too far gone at this point?

1492
01:43:49,359 --> 01:43:55,079
I don't think we're too far gone, but the people, Okay,

1493
01:43:57,159 --> 01:44:02,479
I want to think this out,
but quickly for you. In the sense

1494
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:10,399
that I think the vast majority of
America still are in the center. We

1495
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:15,119
are a center left of center right
people. I agree one hundred and the

1496
01:44:15,199 --> 01:44:19,279
only thing that I sometimes see as
a problem is the two party system in

1497
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:25,000
that there is no gray area.
So if I am going to line up

1498
01:44:25,039 --> 01:44:28,640
on a certain side. And I
remember two people being in here doing a

1499
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,159
separate podcast, Unfiltered an Average,
which is another one we produce here,

1500
01:44:32,279 --> 01:44:35,319
and they were having a discussion and
one of them said, well, you

1501
01:44:35,359 --> 01:44:42,760
know I am I am very conservative, and I really supported Trump, and

1502
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,920
so conversation just coming out, and
then all of a sudden was well,

1503
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:53,600
I could never vote for legal abortion. I just can't do that. I

1504
01:44:54,279 --> 01:44:58,119
would rather see people adopt. But
I couldn't tell somebody else, you know

1505
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:00,920
your body, I would never do
that. I'm going so hang on a

1506
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,319
second, So you're going to vote
that way, because, yeah, I'm

1507
01:45:04,359 --> 01:45:09,680
going to stick with my party even
though my party doesn't represent me fully.

1508
01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:15,479
And I think that's our some of
our party, some of our problems today.

1509
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,159
Okay, And I'm in agreement with
you up to a point. But

1510
01:45:19,239 --> 01:45:24,399
let me let me go back and
add something in here. The polarization of

1511
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:30,199
our two parties, yes, came
about in part because of jerrymandry. Sure,

1512
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:36,439
when you went when when a Lorraine
Barbette or however you say her last

1513
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:45,760
name, when her and a Marjorie
Taylor Green can get elected if they had

1514
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:50,359
to run in even a marginally competitive
district, they wouldn't. In fact,

1515
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:55,640
Lorraine Barbette, I'd be pronounced that, which is less. I'm sorry,

1516
01:45:55,960 --> 01:46:04,640
Bobert okay, bob okay. Sorry, she almost didn't make it because her

1517
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:10,640
district isn't all that read and she's
been such an embarrassment that aside. Jerrymandering

1518
01:46:12,279 --> 01:46:21,720
is one of the ways that parties
become polarized and what people forget. Historically,

1519
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:31,479
the two groups who were embraced jerrymandering
the most were conservative Republicans and urban

1520
01:46:32,039 --> 01:46:38,760
African American leaders. The Conservative Republicans
went along with it because they knew they

1521
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:46,640
could then concentrate Democratic vote into a
number of smaller districts. Right, it's

1522
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:51,479
really a manipulation of the boundaries right
of the census. So you're kind of

1523
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:58,279
favoring one party or even a class
to a certain extent. Yes, Now

1524
01:46:59,079 --> 01:47:02,760
the other thing said, to go
back to the example you gave your gentleman

1525
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:05,520
who is saying, oh, but
you know, I'm a conservative, but

1526
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:10,479
I would never vote to you know, make a have an abortion. Well,

1527
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,479
then you know, it's one thing
to say I support my party.

1528
01:47:14,079 --> 01:47:16,760
And if your party is Mitt Romney, if your party is Chris Christy,

1529
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:21,279
if your party is is SNUNU in
what is a New Hampshire, fine,

1530
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:28,000
you just stay with your party.
But the Republicans, I do hold them,

1531
01:47:30,319 --> 01:47:38,840
particularly those in Congress and party leaders
who are afraid to take back their

1532
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:44,720
party. I got you, sure, So at some point you have to

1533
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:49,319
go no, okay, no,
hope, you can't do that. And

1534
01:47:49,479 --> 01:48:00,319
so so the polarization comes about too
because so many politicians lack courage because they

1535
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:04,119
want the office. I mean,
you know, I probably don't agree on

1536
01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:09,640
much with someone like Liz Cheney,
you know, but she's a true conservative.

1537
01:48:10,279 --> 01:48:14,000
But God love her. She stood
up for what was right, she

1538
01:48:14,279 --> 01:48:17,920
stood up for United America, and
we do need more than that. And

1539
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:24,399
this actually brings me back why I
believe Biden still becomes the best chance Biden.

1540
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,239
Say what you will. He's a
liberal Democrat. Fine, you know,

1541
01:48:27,319 --> 01:48:30,640
he almost old enough to know who
if he almost knows old enough to

1542
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:35,479
have voted for FDR hang you know, hang on. But the point being

1543
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:42,760
he believes in the country. Yeah, and he believes in the country that

1544
01:48:43,079 --> 01:48:47,159
we're talking about something that united that
we can disagree on. So I'm sorry,

1545
01:48:47,159 --> 01:48:53,199
I'm rambling a bit, but you're
making You're making perfect sense. And

1546
01:48:53,279 --> 01:48:59,880
the word that you just said was
disagree but disagree and yet find common ground

1547
01:49:00,159 --> 01:49:05,479
or disagree to disagree to disagree and
not make it a big political battles.

1548
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:12,720
Now with social media, the fringes
doc are so loud that no one gets

1549
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,520
to be heard in the middle,
and so you get these other things that

1550
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,560
drown it out, whether it be
the far far left with some really wacky

1551
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:23,279
ideas or the far far right with
the Marjorie Taylor Queens that I mean,

1552
01:49:23,359 --> 01:49:26,239
even today she's asked about the Hunter
Bidens. She goes, I want to

1553
01:49:26,319 --> 01:49:30,800
just talk about the impeachment, but
she doesn't even understand at least does not

1554
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:33,439
give the impression that she does.
Just being very honest, she doesn't.

1555
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:36,960
And I wouldn't think that most Republicans
would agree. Well, and we we

1556
01:49:38,199 --> 01:49:42,359
we've done a couple of things.
Actually, I want to I want to

1557
01:49:42,399 --> 01:49:48,960
make this point before I forget it. I do believe there's an opportunity in

1558
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:57,199
twenty twenty four Donald Trump loses.
I'm sorry, guys, all Republicans,

1559
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,640
good Republicans, traditional Republicans have to
hope for that. Yeah, I think

1560
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:10,039
they have to. But where I'm
headed with that is is when he when

1561
01:50:10,119 --> 01:50:16,319
he loses the second time, his
currency, his capital, and is relevancy

1562
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:29,439
off right, it's almost gone.
That's when like the Lincoln it was not

1563
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:34,279
Lincoln the yeah, the Lincoln Republic, that movement. That's when the traditional

1564
01:50:34,359 --> 01:50:41,159
Republican could probably make a resurgence.
Okay, there will always be a there

1565
01:50:41,199 --> 01:50:44,880
will always be a whack a mole
function now of a faction now in the

1566
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:49,359
Republican Party. But after twenty twenty
four, and if Trump loses, because

1567
01:50:49,359 --> 01:50:53,439
I also think what you can see
in twenty twenty four or is contrary to

1568
01:50:54,239 --> 01:50:59,800
what they what people think. I
actually, right now, I would give

1569
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,520
odds on the Democrats holding the Senate, even if they lose West Virginia.

1570
01:51:05,319 --> 01:51:14,000
We've kind of lost West Virginia anyway. With mention, I think in a

1571
01:51:14,079 --> 01:51:20,520
number of these suburban districts that that
maybe marginally went for a Republican in twenty

1572
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:28,720
twenty two, I think they become
vulnerable in part because of things like the

1573
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:34,600
impeachment, abortion, all these you
know, all these kind of issues that

1574
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:41,600
simply alienate that center left, center
right, which is what the heart of

1575
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:48,439
America is. I actually think there's
a reasonable chance that the Democrats could gain

1576
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:53,920
the House back in twenty twenty four. Not by a great big majority,

1577
01:51:54,359 --> 01:51:58,000
but enough to say, well,
here we go, here's three here's three

1578
01:51:58,039 --> 01:52:02,399
elections in a row that we've we've
tied our fortunes to Donald Trump, and

1579
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:11,039
look what happened to us. Does
it go farther off the rails? It

1580
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:15,920
that Well, I'm going to say
yes, from the viewpoint that at least

1581
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:18,600
at the executive branch level, it
goes off the rails for four years.

1582
01:52:21,079 --> 01:52:26,680
Yeah. The scary and that's the
scary part. Uh, Now, how

1583
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:30,640
how far it goes off the rail
would depend upon what is the divide in

1584
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:38,680
the House and the Senate. Yeah. Uh, the House, Republicans are

1585
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:42,399
never going to have a supermajority.
They're never going to have that thirty forty

1586
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:46,239
seat majority like the Democrats at at
one time. Uh. And in the

1587
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:53,279
in the Senate, even in twenty
twenty four, even with someone like Mitt

1588
01:52:53,359 --> 01:52:56,920
Romney announcing he's not running again,
well, he's not up till twenty twenty

1589
01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:03,359
six. So even with a a
small Republican majority in the Senate, the

1590
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:08,520
Senate would still serve to kind of
cool down the other, you know,

1591
01:53:09,079 --> 01:53:14,800
the House and Trump to a degree. Uh. Possibly, possibly, but

1592
01:53:15,159 --> 01:53:24,800
it's it's yeah, I just would
prefer not to think about us. Yeah.

1593
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:27,520
And again, you know, and
that's not because he's a well,

1594
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,199
I don't think he is, even
as a Republican. In fact, I

1595
01:53:30,279 --> 01:53:33,720
think I think the Republicans need to
be honest with themselves and say, you

1596
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:39,760
know, we really don't have a
Republican party anymore. It is the it

1597
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:45,039
is, it is. It is
a Trump Party. There is no Republican

1598
01:53:45,119 --> 01:53:50,079
Party as the three of us know
it anymore, at least not at the

1599
01:53:50,199 --> 01:53:56,960
national level. I often thought that
the Republican Party, at least Free Trump

1600
01:53:57,279 --> 01:54:00,000
was more of the Kennedy Democrats in
a way. It was almost like,

1601
01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:03,000
if you were a Kennedy Democrat back
in the day, that's more of what

1602
01:54:03,079 --> 01:54:09,680
a Republican is today. Not a
good that's a good observation, because John

1603
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:13,680
Kennedy was not all that liberal.
No, and I'm not even and look,

1604
01:54:14,359 --> 01:54:15,199
but I mean, I know what
you mean. Yeah, and I

1605
01:54:15,279 --> 01:54:18,359
think in terms of that that thinking
which was still a little more centered,

1606
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:25,199
way more centered. But but but
again, there weren't as Mary. I'll

1607
01:54:25,239 --> 01:54:30,600
go back to points I made.
There weren't as many Gerrymander districts. Even

1608
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,520
the many of the states were still
competitive. There were always the safe states.

1609
01:54:34,279 --> 01:54:41,720
But you had to build coalitions.
You did also have You had a

1610
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:48,600
you had people who are ideologically pragmatic
and you know you and then you had

1611
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:54,520
ideological diversity across the parties. Even
you know, remember up here in New

1612
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:59,520
York, good old Rockefello Republicans,
you know where I grew up in in

1613
01:55:00,119 --> 01:55:03,079
in Illinois, we had people like
Everett Dirkson and Charles Percy. These were

1614
01:55:03,199 --> 01:55:12,079
not flaming right wing. They were
conservative main street of Republicans. I mean

1615
01:55:12,319 --> 01:55:15,680
my god, Bob Dole. You
know, Bob Dole never flamed in his

1616
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:20,520
life. No, that's a good
point. I forgot Bob Doll and say

1617
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:24,000
what you want. And I'm not
a big Mitch McConnell's fan. I can't

1618
01:55:24,039 --> 01:55:27,279
forgive him for the whole Merrit Garland
saying I understood why he did it.

1619
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:30,439
You know, Mitch McConnell's not some
far right winger, which is what gets

1620
01:55:30,479 --> 01:55:33,560
him in trouble with a few of
his crazies. Yeah, I mean think

1621
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:40,399
about this and sorry for here's the
dangerous part we're getting too is like the

1622
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:45,520
Tommy Tummerville however you say to get
Yeah, the guy for this is really

1623
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:48,319
I'm gonna say it this way.
You're fucking with the military. Now.

1624
01:55:49,239 --> 01:55:56,319
You are a Republican. You are
supposed to believe in the military, and

1625
01:55:56,479 --> 01:56:01,680
what you're doing is undermining the national
security. Better yet, forget even that

1626
01:56:02,239 --> 01:56:12,119
maybe abstract comment and go, you're
hurting servicemen, officers who have off and

1627
01:56:12,239 --> 01:56:17,960
women who have given their lives to
the military because you're upset because a woman

1628
01:56:18,039 --> 01:56:23,439
wants to be to be able to
choose. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's

1629
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:29,760
like you know, and it's like
come on, that's not what Republicans do.

1630
01:56:30,199 --> 01:56:31,880
No, we need to do right, you're you're right. There needs

1631
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,560
to be a little more common sense
or even if it's something that you don't

1632
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:41,399
agree with, realize that the greater
loss or the greater hurt by certain disciplines.

1633
01:56:41,479 --> 01:56:43,960
Yeah, you got it makes me
wonder if he makes me wonder if

1634
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:45,920
he got tackled too many times,
or maybe his teams used him as a

1635
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:50,600
tackle dummy at some point. All
right, well, doc, always a

1636
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:54,399
pleasure. Thank you for giving us
some insight to that. I appreciate it,

1637
01:56:54,439 --> 01:56:58,880
and thank you for that. Hey
real quick, little little same shameless

1638
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:02,199
self promotions inim podcasts. Yes,
so the podcast, which is not up

1639
01:57:02,279 --> 01:57:04,600
yet but it will soon be season
one, as you said, is with

1640
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:10,800
Arnie Rothschild and it's like a master
class in political campaigns. It's co hosted

1641
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:17,319
with Paul Baker, and it's called
analogous propinquity. Go look that up on

1642
01:57:17,439 --> 01:57:27,079
that pin propinquity. Yes, yes, go look that up. Yes,

1643
01:57:27,199 --> 01:57:30,640
it means, it means, it's
a it's a type of intimacy, a

1644
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:35,800
type of intimacy, it's a it's
a type of closeness or intimacy. All

1645
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:39,920
right, yes, yeah, some
other time I'll tell you this story,

1646
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:45,039
but more of proximity, like proximity, yeah, not not in terms of

1647
01:57:45,159 --> 01:57:47,720
closest in terms of emotional feelings or
anything. Right right? Oh oh and

1648
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:50,319
lastly, I know, I know
you can add it all this out if

1649
01:57:50,319 --> 01:57:57,399
you want. But lastly, I
have I have a book coming out soon,

1650
01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:01,680
yes, uh called that and in
the gold Lea may Suit, which

1651
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:09,880
is a in depth examination of nineteen
sixties folks singer political activists Philoaks who was

1652
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:14,359
the man everybody thought Bob Dylan was. How's that for a tease? Very

1653
01:58:14,399 --> 01:58:16,680
good tease, very good. Yeah, yeah, I think he was in

1654
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:24,560
the he was in the propinquity of
Dylan. Actually, in some ways that's

1655
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:30,039
a good use of the word.
Thank you for letting me do that.

1656
01:58:30,159 --> 01:58:34,640
Shameless absolutely absolutely always a pleasure,
gentlemen, Yes, it is always a

1657
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:40,239
pleasure, Doc, thanks so much. Okay, I have a nice whatever

1658
01:58:40,319 --> 01:58:44,760
this is, well, all right, good bye, there he goes Doctor

1659
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:47,439
Bower's political science. Well, some
of that stuff it gets like it's a

1660
01:58:47,479 --> 01:58:50,439
little deep, but well it's deep, but but it's something we need to

1661
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:54,359
pay attention to. And yet we
don't. And as I said earlier,

1662
01:58:54,479 --> 01:58:57,439
we hold our athletes to a higher
standard than we do our politics. Speaking

1663
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,680
athletes, the audio shared was very
hurtful and insulting to my character and how

1664
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:04,079
I was raised. I've always been
treated. I've always treated people how I

1665
01:59:04,159 --> 01:59:08,600
want to be treated. I agreed
everyone with smiles, in respect from the

1666
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:11,319
people in our cafe and the people
that keep our building cleaning in order.

1667
01:59:13,119 --> 01:59:15,399
Yeah, all right, you know
what we all need to do, Kevin,

1668
01:59:15,439 --> 01:59:18,640
We need to laugh. Comedy at
the Carlson has exactly that laughter,

1669
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:25,239
and right before, right through this
weekend, you got a comedian Joe Divito.

1670
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:28,680
Joe is hilarious. I have seen
Joe on television. He's been on

1671
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:32,479
the late late shows. He's been
he has a special called Dry Bar Comedy

1672
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:36,880
and it's got over like ten million
views online. He is really funny.

1673
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:41,720
He talks a lot about family,
and I think it's very relatable and you're

1674
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:45,960
gonna really love Joe DeVito this weekend
at Comedy at the Carlson. Find showtimes

1675
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:49,680
and ticket information at Carlson Comedy dot
com. All right, we will wrap

1676
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:53,399
it up, Kevin. Time to
wrap it up. Let's sake, Abye,

1677
01:59:53,439 --> 01:59:56,239
to Danny real quick on the cameras. Here by Dan, Sorry,

1678
01:59:56,319 --> 02:00:01,800
Danny left the Dan's got a gig
Saturday night at tap it Over on Scottsville

1679
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:05,079
Road. Hopefully we'll see you there, absolutely, If not, we'll see

1680
02:00:05,119 --> 02:00:10,119
you Monday. I'm Bill Moran and
a great weekend. Go Mills. Welcome

1681
02:00:10,199 --> 02:00:14,000
be Hotel. Didn't know what to
do. I'm trying to tv ya B

1682
02:00:14,239 --> 02:00:16,319
a letter to you, and this
is gotting out. A day here to

1683
02:00:16,439 --> 02:00:17,399
Molly, here to stay
