God, let's start start the episode with a sneeze. Yeah, I can't
help it. That was any bigger, Twitter would have rippled with like uh
notifications that they felt vibrations. It was just crazy how insane those sneezels were.
Do you ee in threes or is it always two with you? I
don't know if I have a number, but I usually sneeze more than once,
usually two. Yeah. Interesting, I'm sure I've asked us. But
do either you have the photo sneeze reflex the sun sneezing things? I do.
I have it sometime, not every time, I consider, because I
don't have a reflex. Sorry you're saying it's really funny, like to use
it as a power. When you're like I kind of need to sneeze,
you open up a window and look at the sun, and you're like,
I'll make it happen. I will make it happen. I will maguy for
this sneeze. Yeah. Sometimes it's right on the brink. And it doesn't
have to be the sun doesn't have to be the window. If it's a
bright light, you can do it. Or you leave a movie during the
day, you get it, and sneezing is a good feeling. It's like
sneezing, pooping, these things that are like, you know, just gross,
weird body things. But like, let's not get ourselves. This feels
good to do you know them, rate them sneezing versus them fuse sneezing,
pooping and coming Jesus, I don't want to we're not working blue here,
come on for me? It is Oh sorry, I enjoyed city for the
last one. Oh sorry, I like doing this thing that my body's supposed
to like do I know? But how do you compare that? These are
different things? They think sneezing and pooping is like a nice innocent just like,
ah, that felt good versus like, you know, like it's that's
filthy. This isn't nine, This is a nine. Oh yeah, I
rate them every time they happen. Oh my god, degenerate. I would
say. Sneezing is really up there for me, but it can get annoying.
So like my first sneeze is solid nine, the second sneeze is an
eight, and if I third sneeze it's like a four. I'm pissed by
then I no longer wish to have them, and anyone after that is like
one stop it. I don't like you anymore. I'm so consistent with my
sneezes and the one two that I think they're both just solid eights and I'm
good. There's not a lot of fluctuation there. Like a poop. Here's
the deal with a poop. It's like, I'm gonna get poop in a
six because it does feel really good, but it's just so objectively gross.
It's just a turd and it's stinky, and it's just just nasty stuff.
It's not. A sneeze is pretty innocent. You might get a little bit
of a stuff in your beard, but like you know, that wipes away
pretty quick. You get your hand down near your asshole. You know this
is Meanwhile, I'm drinking a nice Russo do multa Chino for the episode.
Felt appropriate. How does that compare it to coming this this one? I'll
fuse this at a seven. It's good, good for it. I like
the sneeze is the ones that come out of absolutely nowhere for some reason feel
better for me. I like the one's mid talking, like in mid conversation,
and you make the stupid face and the person's waiting for it like that,
you know what that face reminds me of Oh, come on, some
star muscles and nerve endings. Yeah, how are you? This is episode
eighty. Yay, we forgot to intro. Let's do it? Wait?
Come on being professional? Hey, everybody, welcome back to the fire Scape
cast. It's episode eighty. Oh chenta, I'm Mike. Here is always
with Dan, Hello and Mary. Yay. I'm gonna be my own hype
man because I don't have none on this podcast. A drum roll? Oh,
I used to. I don't think I have it right now. I'm
sorry. I got drum. It's a drum, that's a rim shot ipe.
That's the same instrument to one of the same instruments. Mm hmm,
I there's I've been watching a lot of TV lately, if you watch it.
We finished Showgun. Oh yeah, okay, I'm not gonna spoil anything
about any of these shows. We finished Showgun, we started Fallout, and
then we also okay, so we finished Showgun. I like that show quite
a bit without spoiling anything. My only gripe is that it's not even really
a gripe in a show about like the subversive and the ways you could be
a saboteur and you utilize espionage to avoid war but still get to the end
or like as means to an end. Sometimes I did want more fighting,
I will admit, just because their action, their brief action scenes were really
good. But I mean, like this, that's not what the show is
about the show. The characters are great, Dan, have you been watching
it? I have not. I wish. I just I don't know why
I don't find time to watch TV that much or movies or anything like it's
quick, it's only I mean, it's really good HBO quality. Dude.
I was like, this is HBO quality? Is it Hulu? Yeah,
it's shockingly good quality for Hulu. Yeah. I associate Hulu with Bob's Burgers,
And I was like, this is you have outdone yourself, like Hulu
is on on the and yeah, but fucking the Bear. It doesn't have
like crazy fight sequences and like dead people all the time. It's people cooking
in a kitchen. Like that's not high budget. This is high budget.
This definitely has a higher budget than the Bear. Question. They're sick but
outrageous. I like the show. They're making soup and then they're like arguing
about how it gets done, like it's a budget was probably two hundred dollars.
I know you're just trying to I will agree Showgun clearly has a higher
budget than The Bear, but let's not downplay the Bear. Why thank you
for giving me that win. I give you that. This is not about
like which show is better. I think they are very different shows. But
Showgun has like crazy, like the amount of green screen they must have used
to have these like massive backgrounds. They have those like Game of Throne shots
where it's like and Game of Thrones intro. You know, Game of Thrones
has that very iconic intro where it's like, yeah, miniatures, and yes
it does that too. But with Zen gardens, ships, yeah, the
little toys. It's cute. But anyway, they make these giant castles in
the backgrounds when like everybody's riding their horses into town. It's wild. How
how big they make these landscapes, and they do massive sweeping shots over like
old Japan towns. It's cool. Soup. I have been to uh Oh,
I said, I have been to Osaka Castle, the real one with
timor Hussein. We've been inside it. It's cool. So it's cool to
see it in whatever they envision it. Cgi wise, but yeah, there's
like no sweeping shots in the Bear. Yes there are of Chicago. Oh
yeah, everybody wants those. The show literally open. I'm a sweeping shot
of him on a bridge facing off with a literal bear. This shows an
eight out of ten, but nobody ever has. There's just not enough sweeping
shots of Chicago. They sweep the kitchen, Mike keep in to that castle
in Osaka, Japan. Like you know, I'm watching Sopranos and I've driven
by the bottom bang a bunch, so it's pretty much the same thing.
Oh, every time I come home from work, I go the path Tony
takes up until Hoboken. Oh, I just don't cross like the Pulaski Skyway.
No, but Shogun's really good. But like I should clarify, it's
not that I wanted more action. I think it's just the show itself is
kind of built on anti climax, and often, as it is designed to
do, that will lead to like momentum crashes. So do you eve an
anti climax out of ten? It's like the opposite of company, That's what
I'm saying. Zero zero, Yeah, was that our first ever zero have
anti climac Make that a make that a shirt. Oh wait, Mary,
we'll talk more about it later, but UH, well, we'll plug it
later, but tell people about our new or new threads that we got coming
out. I think we should plug it now. And I appreciate you saying
that. I spent some time going through UH our merch line and I half
constructed what I consider a real good summer UH announcement of like new swag and
clothes summer catalog Summer. That's that's what I wanted to say. We should
have been more prepared anyway. It's a summer catalog with really good items that
are all for the heat. T shirts, shorts, bathing suits, a
banana yellow bathing suit, you bet your buns, a hot bathing suit for
the ladies. I mean, you name it. I went for it and
they're all really cool. And on top of that, we're doing a summer
fire sale, so we will be doing ten percent off all of these seven
summer items for the next two months, so definitely check it out. I'm
really happy with the way they came out. Yeah, I'll put something on
Patreon, We'll put stuff on Instagram, so just make sure you're following us
there. If you're not paying Patreon member, you could still follow us on
Patreon, so you're up to date. The banana yellow we're keeping that going.
I will always retweet banana yellow. I just think it's it's iconic.
Yeah, we figured we do it now because people are stocking up on their
summer beach wardrobes before. Yeah. I get your mom a bikini. He
earned it. Yeah, and through July. Portion'd give you enough time to
get it out there shipping and everything. The sluttiest summer outfit that she deserves.
Get your mom a podcast bikini. And it's really tasteful. It's just
a white bottom and then just tons of the logos on the top. It's
awesome anas, very tasteful, very elegant. It's a string bikini. If
you pull on it, it falls apart on the bottoms. Everything a mom
wants. Yes, that's perfect. Especially where is that the U r L
would be for that one. I don't want to say it wrong. I
haven't constructed it yet, so that'll be a dot com correct. Yeah,
I will put all the logos it is on fourth wall. That is correct.
And then because it's a custom summer catalog, as you've said, the
links will be on social and on our Patreon, so you go to the
right page. Yeah, but no, Showgun's great. I liked it a
lot. We also I started Fallout and then was curious whether Amanda would like
it, and she saw the one episode I had seen and she's like,
all right, I'll keep trying it. And then we watched another episode together
and both of us were like, I don't get why people are loving this
show. Oh yeah, is it just because the bar is so low?
Like I mean, I don't So I will say they clearly did their homework,
like Graham Wagner and shit, I gotta look up the names by Like
Jonathan Nolan directed the first episode. He's a producer on it. It's the
West him and Lisa Joy. It's the West World exec producers, so you
know they know how to make good TV. They did their homework. However,
I would actually say, and I don't blame them for this, because
if you don't do this kind of easter egg, inside joke fallout stuff,
you're gonna get eviscerated by the people who are most excited to see it.
So much of the show is very fan servicey, to the point where I'm
like, they'll linger on shots so long to sell a joke to like Fallout
three fans, and I'm the biggest Fallout three fan I know. And even
I'm like, all right, he used the adjunk jet, he shot a
baby doll arm in his Sun Guy's chest. I get it. Cut to
the next shot, Let's get on with it. I also, to be
clear, I'm only we've only watched two episodes, so I'm going to continue
just almost out of obligation. But I know a lot of people are freaking
out saying they love the Ghoul Walton Goggins character. I I don't. Necessarily
I'm not. I'm not attached to any of these characters yet. But you
I'm generally not interested in like video game movies and shows anyway, but you
mentioning them like kind of bending over backwards city references turns me off more because
like, I think that's the thing about just like fandom, like nerd culture
type shit. Since like the MCU started, and I'm counting New Star Wars
movies and shows, I'm counting Marvel. I'm kind of even like the Mario
movie, which I liked generally, It's like, I don't I understand this
thing of like a reference as you know, worthwhile. It's like just seeing
a thing that you recognize, Like I saw that in the game, and
now it's in a show. Like great, that's like it seems like the
most low hanging fruit possible. And there's nothing like Mario. It's not like,
oh, they got the Mario card, like I thought Mario did a
decent job of telling a fun Mario CG movie, But like, it's not
like every fucking thing that they shoved in there. I'm like, oh,
I know that, Oh I know that. Oh they played that song.
Oh they did that, you know. Yeah. And it's Amanda said the
same thing. She's like, this feels like a marvel There's like a fight
scene in the second episode that felt very marveloush And I was like, yeah,
I don't disagree. I'm just watching it now to kind of see what
they do with these characters, because they again, they know that universe.
I would actually say, though the tone of the show, and obviously if
you've played the Fallout games three and onward, I would say New Vegas and
three, New Vegas and four those definitely have that over the top, hyper
violent, cartoonish vibe to them. I would say the show actually goes too
far with it, to the point where they try to do none of the
jokes in the show land. For me, I think the show works best
when it is kind of actually painting a post apocalypse, a post apocalypse in
a very grim way, in some way that like other shows have it,
including you Know, The Last of Us what have You, but like and
they explore some really cool stuff storytelling wise, in the show, I just
too often there's a bad joke, there's a knowing reference and a knowing nod
to something in the games that they linger on as opposed to just something you'll
notice and like, Okay, I get it, like you know he he,
okay, oh sure this this raider is gonna inhale. What is it?
A jet? Jet? The drug whatever the drug is rat rat Away
and rat X are the some of the drugs. And then there's a jet
something that raiders use to like it's like crank and he uses that. That's
just I don't know, one small example. I just the show is really
not hooking me in a way that I'm gonna keep watching. But can I
pop in though, because I've finished it and it's okay, cool, Yeah,
Then a second it's it gets good, it is worth finishing. I
felt the same way you did. I actually stopped watching it after episode two
because it was too hokey. That's like the word I use for It's like,
it's just like they're joking around, but there's nothing like really valuable.
There's no characters I care about. I started caring about the characters in episode
four, no spoilies. I started thinking that there was something good with the
writing in episode five and six, and then I got hooked towards the end.
I do really think that they do something good with this. It just
takes building, and it takes longer than two episodes. So you already said
you're going to continue, so I don't think i've to convince you. But
tell me how you feel by like episode four and five, and we'll see
where you're at with it. Because they do start taking it more seriously,
and the writers start getting riskier because in less instead of being so funny,
and it does stay funny, it has some like it has some really good
comedic relief later on. It was a really good I know you appreciate it,
Mike. There's some pretty good surprise guest stars later on. I know
of one, because the end of the first episode is like this season on
they do a very well Oh no, I hate when they did. I
don't watch those. I consider those spoilies. I don't like when they're like
this season. I didn't. I haven't watched the show in a while that
has done that. It wasn't So it's part of episode one, like the
credits of episode one. It's not like a new screen that like Amazon Prime
put on. Yeah, it's like it's Walton Goggins, like under a spotlight
been this season on on Fallout, Like I think it's to emulate, you
know, the mid century kind of vibe. And then I saw one actor,
I'm like, what the fuck is he doing here? Now I need
to see who's whose character is You're gonna laugh. There's a couple of really
good surprise guest stars. But what I will say to the writing is is
that at some point they start saying, what happens as we discovered that this
world is fucked up? And how do we peel that curtain back a little
bit and really expose people for who they are when they're in this environment and
how they're treating each other. And I think that they it actually does say
some really good things about the Fallout universe, about the differences between the Vault
dwellers and the people in the actual real world. There's good stuff there.
It's just I think it's a slow burn, and it took a little longer
for me to get there. But I after completing the season, and I
quote it, when the season finale stopped and I rolled credits, I said
to myself, ooh, I'm very excited for season two, and I almost
quit. I almost quit on season on episode two. So I think you
should. Let's check back in two weeks. I think you will. I'll
keep watching. The thing that annoys me the most and the thing that reminds
me most of Marvel, is that they'll have some sequences where I'm really into
it, Like the way they frame the Brotherhood of Steel like as this ultra.
They go really they go harder than the Games do into this like religious
sect, medieval like squires and Nights. They go really hard into that.
In a way, I was like, okay, cool, They're they're pushing
the Games in a different, stronger direction here, and then of course it
just gets hokey. So I just I want it to stick to the tone
that I'm liking, and maybe the show is not doesn't the show doesn't have
to be what I want it to be. I get that, but you
know, it's just not clicking with me yet. But I'm going to keep
watching it. Yeah, you keep watching, you keep watching. I think
you'll be I think you will be pleasantly surprised. It just needs a little
bit more time. I have been spring cleaning, and I was curious because
this is the spring cleaning time in most people's lives. If you all get
into spring cleaning, we are time to kind of like get the whole house
cleaned up. Is typically like when we have people over for like it's like,
oh, we got a one people coming over for a wrestling pay per
view, or like we did a move uber night on Saturday where we had
like eight people coming over and staying over, so like we cleaned the house
like fully before that, so like it's less it's less season specific and more
just like we got company coming over and we just clean the house. Yeah,
we do the same, but we also do a big one or we
do a few big ones in the spring just with the because the windows are
finally open so you can air shit out. Yeah, we get into it.
We say, like, okay, Saturday morning, we'll do a bunch
of that. We'll turn music on, we'll get it done. Maybe like
make a early afternoon cocktail while we clean, and then we'll go out that
night and it kind of make a day of it. The cleaning treat.
You gotta have a cleaning treat. Nobody cleans unless there's some kind of value
at the end of that clean. Nobody cleans for fun, unless there's psychos
I agree, But how has spring cleaning been for you? It's great.
I also need a treat. My treat is that I love resales. So
I go through my closets. I try and get rid of at least ten
percent of items, and then I have two So there's like three piles.
There's keep pile, there's throwaway pile. Those are like, you know,
nobody wants this ship. And then there's a resale pile. And at the
end of spring cleaning, I take the resale and I take it to like
a shop and I get store credit for it, and then I buy a
bunch of new shit. Oh okay, I I've always I've never done like
a resale thing like I've got like old shoes and stuff that are in like
great condition, but like I don't know, like I don't know if people
buy old shoes on marketplace or I've never thought of it like a resale store.
Of course they do. Men's clothes are pretty coveted. I don't think
it's as uh, it's not as it's not as often that men sell their
clothes, but that actually means that you can still get a good price for
it because it's less likely that it's in circulation, whereas like if there's four
hundred of the same anthropology top, no one gives a shit hammer. But
like your sweater might be like more interesting, And I guess I'm what I'm
saying is like where do you get your clothes? Right? Because like,
if it's like old Navies, recirculation ain't gonna be very hot. But if
you are earing something that you think is more distinct or interesting, then you
can absolutely resell that. Okay, I guess I never considered that. I
love it. So you're like decluttering too, Yeah, I literally like it's
it's throwaway reseal. These are my precious baby boy items. I must have
them. And then that declutter causes me to like also clean at the end
of it, because now my closet is like a fourth of what it used
to be. But my favorite part really truly is this is the carrot is
now I need to fill that closet with more shit and so it makes me
feel better when I go shopping. On the decluttering point, I have sad
news for you too, specifically, and Jacob, you know we you know,
we have guests over frequently, but like staying over isn't as much.
You know, most people go back to their homes and families and stuff.
So you know, Bank's office is the same room that we had the triple
bunk beds in and I uh, last weekend took an Alan ranch to it
and the top bunk is no more. So we still have we have three
mattresses, so you know, we can pull it out and you guys can
draw straws or whatever. We have the two beds that can go together if
it's a couple, or can spread it if it's multiple people, but not
this big monolith of a a bunk bed. Although to make you feel better,
you know, it is like Bank's office and the Maharty face poster was
on the ceiling and after I took the bed down. I asked Monk.
I was like, if you want me to take the Mahardi poster down?
And she was like no, So your face is still up there. Put
it underneath. My word, it's below it just the bottom of the both
just yeah, it's like basically a queen bed that can separate into twins.
Now, so yeah, you're still above the beds. Blank, hasn't fashioned
heard worked us to, like like JP from Grandma's Boy to look up at
the ceiling, glup at your stupid So you were you were a couple of
the only people to just sleep in the famous triple bunk bed. Dude,
I'm going down with a foundation in that house. I'll be there. I'll
be there till Kingdom come. It's great when I have like electricians in there
and I just nobody mentions it, like just like they see it. You
can't not see your face up there. But remember when so you know they're
too confused by the Grimlins. Two lady with the sexy boobies and a lady
I have the flash or Grimlin. It's classy. I don't have the poster.
I don't have a booby sexy Grimlin poster. Don't you be talking about
She exists in the movie. She's the closing shot of the New Batch.
But I have I don't have a sexy Lady Grimlin paraphernalia here, poster.
You don't have a poster. No, I've got the Grimlins two art where
it's the back of the office chair in New York with a cigar. That's
in my bathroom. Yeah, no, I have. I have a full
size flasher Grimlin. I have a Grimlins two poster in my bathroom. And
it's not the Lady. It's not the Lady. I have taken It says
more about your fantasis. I have taken my memory and I have altered it.
Yeah. I could just send you a picture right now. It's nope,
nope, Yeah, the bathtub, the macaroni bathtub, bathroom. Nope,
it's just the back of a chair and a Grimlin hand with the scar.
Have I like eternal sunshined myse the spotless Grimlin. God, I thought
it was the lady. Yeah, nothing wrong with Lady Gremlin. But no,
she's not to be found here. How do I think that that was
above your bathroom? Oh? You have you have the photo save for when
you Jay it on your phone. Mary. Oh, and she show us
it all the time. She bolted into the ceiling. Mary comes out of
the bathroom, out of breath, shows us the photo. She's like,
I just jade it to this. It's exhausting. I know. I'm blown
away that I thought that was the Lady Grimlin. It's embedded in my brain.
Take a photo of your bathroom. You have video of my bathroom.
We have it on our Patriot Cheese. Sure you're not confusing Mac and Cheese
and the Lady Grimlin. That's probably what happened. Yet it happened. They're
both sexy, vivid memory of her. Your memory is wrong. Your brain's
bad. Fuck. One more TV show that Amanda and I are actually watching
together is A Gentleman in Moscow. It's based It's a showtime. Ewan McGregor
plays Count Rostov, and it's based on one of my favorite books ever by
Amoor Tols. A Gentleman in Moscow. Dude is like a He writes this
like revolutionary poem before the Bolsheviks takeover in Russia in the nineteen twenties, thirties,
twenties, thirties and then seven late late twenties and then he then once
the Bolsheviks take over, they're like, oh, you're really into like dressing
well and wine and staying at fancy hotels. So they're like, we're not
going to execute you like most of the like bourgeois z. We're gonna We're
gonna like sentence you to house arrest in this fancy hotel in the Red Square
for the rest of your life. So it's very it's oddly like Resident Evil
in the sense it all takes place in this one hotel and he's got these
like servants quarters and he finds secret passageways. The book's incredible. The show's
good too so far. But we're enjoying that a lot. But you know,
have high hopes because it's based on one of my favorite books in the
last decade. But you know, it's different so far, and you know
they're always going to be different. But enjoying it quite a bit. Nice.
I know we've talked about Alex Garland a bit on here, and I
saw a civil war. Oh we want to. I think we might go
Saturday. Yeah, I won't spoil anything. It's good. It's good.
It's different. The marketing, I think had me expecting a little bit of
a different movie. Yeah, so I was like kind of surprised by what
it was, but I did like it, And now that I'm kind of
pasted the like, that's not what I expected the moment, you know,
it's a I think I'm pretty positive on it. He does. I feel
like his movies are always I mean, Annihilation was such a weird thing where
it's like a nineties comedy romp. It looked like hard sci fi. Yeah,
like Jason Sadakis was originally in it. Yeah, yeah, I think
that bear Bobby Plaza had an M sixteen at one point and then I was
like, well this looks sick, and then she wasn't in it. She
backed out. But in all seriousness, what was the uh the production company
just like freaked out last minute and they're like, this movie is not going
to make any money. It went to theaters for like a weekend, and
then they're like, okay, now go to Hulu. And I lucked out.
I saw it. It was twenty fifteen, I believe, and then
now it's this cult classic and like, but a lot of times his movies
just don't ex Machina. I think people liked right away critically, but it's
one of box favorite Annihilation. They just freaked out and then all of a
sudden, you know, it's one of my favorite movies. But I've not
seen Men still that kept. Yeah, we saw it with Ben Hanson and
he also had noticed in Fight. All of us being Alex Garland fans,
none of us had seen it because I think we all just saw the trailer
or the reviews and we're like, eh, like people aren't too into it.
Men's really hard to stomach because there's all these uh you know, like
a lot of times in movies, you'll watch it and you'll be like,
why did I get that, and they'll be like, oh, it's because
it's uh Ophelia from like you know this other you know, it's like telling
a substory and it's all hidden and you're like, oh my god, I
get it. And Men, it's like we get it. We understand that
this is about Adam and Eve and that men are evil, Like I fucking
think it's so it's so fucking blunt. Mayor. I bet I wouldn't get
it, though, I bet I wouldn't. Like I remember watching but like
I watched Mother with Bunk and like at the end of her being like that
is the most blunt, obvious metaphor was maybe like what are you talking about?
And she goes, she didn't get what that movie was about. It's
like, it's about a spooky house. It was about like Catholic stuff or
something, or Jesus or like I just totally am I right, it was
about Jesus or something. Married Yeah, mother Mary, Yeah, I did
not even get religious overtones from Spooky House. Did you see two thousand and
one? Be like, I, whatever happened to those monkeys? Yeah?
I think like that's not it's so literal that I think it's it's almost impossible.
But also like all of just the it just kind of will exhaust you
and maybe men, and maybe that's the intention of it, which is like
it's so it's so scary to be a woman. But like watching a film
for this long about the tension that this woman feels around all men, even
as a woman, I'm not like, see this is how it feels.
I'm sitting there and I'm like, this is miserable. It's miserable to be
around all these fucking shit eating, nasty, like flaccid men, and I'm
sick of it. I'm sick of it. Suck it up, oh gaslight
me do it. Yes, that joke's not gonna land for anybody, tell
me that it's not a big deal. I gotta watch it just to say
I've seen all his stuff, but fucking exhausting. I I will say,
like, I don't know any I don't know a lot of people who have
like seen it. I don't know a lot of men that have liked it.
I can't name a woman that have let them like come out of this
film and be like loved watching that for fucking an hour and a half.
It's just miserable. It's a miserable experience. This explains why so many people
have not seen that movie. Is we probably all heard reactions like that and
we're like, yeah, this seems like a skippable one. Well, you
know, like have you seen a promising young woman? No, a promising
young woman is also very clearly about like a woman's experience with like uh like
violence and rape culture and all these things. But it's not exhausting. It's
just like a movie where you'll watch it and you'll be like, yep,
I hear you, sister. The same director as Sulburn, Emerald Ennel,
you should watch it. I actually think it's quite it's entertaining. Yeah,
but I've heard good things. Yeah. Man is just like, have you
ever been in a room with a man and he's just making you uncomfortable?
Well, here's a twenty minute scene of that, and he's oh, yeah,
yeah, yeah. I Alex Garland definitely sometimes maybe not entire movies outside
of men, but he definitely crosses over that line often, not often.
Sometimes he goes to the point where I'm like, dude, we get what
you were doing in ex Machina, which I think is actually his most closest
to like perfect movie. I think there are a couple of times there when
he does that. He'll just like really try to beat you over the head
with something like no, we got it already, or or we do get
it. And it was entertaining. Yeah, so this is about robots,
this is interesting war and I was like, oh, yeah, it was
pretty bad. So I think I get some things. I understand what they're
trying to say here. Getting shot with bullets would suck up on In terms
of like Dan misinterpreting a movie, I like to think of you seeing Deer
Hunter and be like, I'm going to join the army. I'm going,
hell, yeah, you know, I gotta go. I gotta get a
boat. I'm you right now, it's like totally not getting it. We
need to get some puppies. Let's go super troopers. Man. The government
is so important, we have to listen to them. Why doesn't anyone listen
to the government. I think I'm that far gone. I'm pretty far gone
as far as understanding metaphor and symbolism and stuff. Yeah, I'm probably the
worst I know, despite being the only one of the only people I know
what. They've film degree. You're like, you know what, Russia's kind
of onto something Rocky five. I should become a boxer. Yeah, I
love this, your fucking film degree. And you're like, for my final
thesis, Jaws, why fishing is rad? We're gonna catch that guy and
Shark's bad? I mean, you can do fishing in a way that doesn't
put you a Jaws risk. Yes, that's true, Dan, you're getting
a d ship passing. I get a degree. That was my attitude.
Jaws is Spielberg's best movie. I see Terminator, I'm like, hey,
I seems awesome. Looked cool. You see Judge Dread. You're like,
they should kill that dread guy. He seems like troubles. Yeah, but
yeah, we've been watching a lot of TV lately. Well, we were
finishing up the Sopranos for like our yearly rewatch, and then I also have
only been playing like a couple of games outside of work lately, so we've
had more free time than usual. So I was like, all right,
well let's watch Showgun and that's one season and it's done. Apparently. Then
you know, both of us love amoor Toole's books, so we're like,
we got to watch Gentlemen in Moscow and then fall Out. I'm watching more
out of obligation, but I'm hoping it's better. Mary. I'll report back
next episode. Yeah, I look forward to hearing about it because I felt
very similarly. You know sometimes have you ever done that where you're like,
I'm gonna quit this, I'm gonna quit and then it really comes back.
I do it all the time. I'm a serial quitter with books, music,
of media of any kind. If you can't grip me in like two
episodes, I'm very likely to quit. We'll get on the fence. We
currently are that way with we just watched the first episode of season two of
The Jinks, which, you know, The Jinks was such a perfect documentary
and ending and everything. So it's like, all these years later, when
we know he's just kind of been in jail and stuff, we're kind of
side eyeing the existence of a season two and the first episode is just all
about season one and the impact that I had, which is a very interesting
story, but like we know that story, so like I'm wondering, like
we are giving it like another episode or two to like justify its existence.
Otherwise it's like we don't need to see another dramatization of him getting interrogated drinking
coffee. You know, it's not a lot going on there, so we'll
see. I could be wrong. Yeah, I couldn't imagine. I feel
like there's nothing else to say there, and we didn't they say all the
things. I mean they could, like he could say where the body was
of you know, I think the one woman that was not because like he
got acquitted of the dude murder, he got arrested on one of the women
murders, and then the other one is unsolved, so like maybe you can
just get him to admit to that or lead him to the body or something
like that. But I'm over There's no way it's going to match Season one,
right. I just want to hear Dan in a court being like we
find him guilty of the dude murder. I want to be on like a
murder jury. I think it'd be fun. And I'm in the I'm in
the jury. I'm over it. I don't care about this guy. We
should be the jury. Just have a three person jury and it's just us
well fusome in the courtroom, abuse the dependent. If you get anything lower
than a seven, you're going you're you're going to jail. No, you're
going to the guillotine. Oh no, you're out of here. I love
that. In our reality, if you don't get a seven, we fucking
kill you. Is this just like like if we took over a country,
Is this hour laws work? We shed your mortal coil for you? Geez?
Yeah? And a seven or die? Yeah, you have to have
No. If you can perform a talent show and get a seven, then
you get to live. So it's just the Gong show. But you die
if you're bad as you're out of here. Okay. Otherwise you're out of
here And then Dan stands out says, fuck you dude. Oh wait,
how was the thing? It was great because the first time I'd only seen
it when it first came out the mcgoover show, and like that had all
the crazy expectation of like, oh my god, I can't believe after all
these years they're doing mcgover. So we just watched it the first time through.
I liked it a lot. I remember thinking I had kind of slower
start, but watching it again now removed from expectations and watching it all in
one sitting. I made Celery themed cocktails I named the distraction. Saw that
disgusting if our buddy made blow punk cookies. Actually the cocktail was not bad.
It was actually pretty good. There's a lot there's celary bidders these days.
There's like a usage spritz is and whatnot. Yeah, yeah, it
was pretty solid. But no, it's very very funny. The only thing
is it My only complaint would be it seems like it was definitely written to
be a movie, and they had to kind of stretch it out to be
like a three hour and forty minute show when you put it all into in
so like some part of my brain was thinking the whole time watching it.
That Like, if I had time on my hands, I would probably throw
all of it into Premiere and make like the recert cut where it's like,
I just make it mcgroover two instead of the Peacock Show, and I make
it like a clean two hours or something, because like there's so we did,
right, that's the thing. It's like it didn't need all of that.
There's whole subplots and stuff you can take out, and like, I
think that'd actually be a fun edit. But that would take a long time
for a very stupid pursuit. No, you'd be fine doing it. It'd
be fun. It'd be fun. I think it's crazy when fans do super
cuts of shows that must have taken their entire lives to put together. I'm
honestly not sure if the really good cut down version of dragon Ball was done
by a fan or just okay corporation for money. But god damn, I
don't know how you can watch the original after watching the cut down when they've
like really gotten to the meat of super of dragon Ball, Like, that's
that's the one, that's what kai was a great way to watch it.
Yeah, that's the only one that the only way to watch it. I
don't know how you can watch it any other way. It's crazy. Did
you see the clip back in the day where I think this is the Toy
Story three spoiler where somebody watch out Toy Story three of yours just you skip
ahead thirty seconds. I think that's the one where all the toys are in
like a volcano, where they're in like a big thing that's about like kill
them all, and they're all like, they're all like sliding down. It's
a big hot thing. It's a smelter thing, and they're all gonna die,
and it's like a very like emotional like they're like, oh God,
this is it. And they're looking at each other like, oh, it's
been good being toy friends with you. And then they're fine in something a
good, happy ending happens. But like some kids, it's like teenagers or
something. Back when it came out on DVD, made a cut of it
where it just they're all like going down into the smelter and it just fades
the black and it says like directed by whoever. So they show it to
their grandma or their mom. I think it was their mom, and they
recorded her reaction. Why would they ended like that. Why did that happen?
Why would they do that? Like ending with all these toys dying in
this smelter like terminator. Two. Yeah, yeah, I do not remember
that scene at all. I think I have again Eternal Sunshine that out of
my mind. I don't remember any toy stories after two. I've seen all
four Toy stories' If there's any scenes I remember, it's just from the first
one what he flies at one point and plays that I believe I can fly.
I remember that. I think that's about all I remember the entire tor
story. One had the whole aliens part where oh yeah from a retail store
because what repackaged and then their buzz got repackaged one of them, so they
were going to rescue them from the toy store with the aliens help, and
they were in the claw. Yeah, Like I remember all the characters.
I remember Slinky Dog and and Don Rickles was the pig and all that stuff,
and I just don't remember anything that happens other than like, whoa see
he looks crazy. Three. The real sad part of three is the fact
that like Andy goes to college, I believe, and then finally like stops
wanting the toys. They're trying to find him in college, and then I
think the real sad part. And I could be butchering this, but maybe
this is just my melancholice take at the TLDR of toy story, my tld
yard. The melancholic memory of it is that like it actually he never does
really want them again, but like there is a moment where he's like,
oh, I remember when I was a kid and I played with these and
then he moved on. I think that's what happens. That's the fate of
all toys. Like, and how they make three more movies out of that,
dude, I don't know, and I think they're really now. No,
the one I was describing was three. Oh yeah, what happens in
one? Uh? One is when there's no there's the childhood Bully. Yeah,
the head of the dolls. Yes, he makes he makes like amalgamations
of that, like the Freaky Spider baby and stuff. I do remember that.
Yeah. And then Andy is his mom is trying to like moving up.
They're moving and they get left behind on accident and then they have to
I can t l d R. What was two? There were traffic cones
It was two college and then three was like He's No. Two was three
was smell alter too was traffic Cones. Four was spoon. There was a
talking They really gave up on four. I think there was a talking spoon
and it was a road trip. The only four that has ever mattered to
Rocky four and Uncharted four was two where the cow girl came in Annie.
Was she a toy or she she was one person? The cow girl is
too cow Maybe one is just spaceman and cowboy. Refuse, I refuse to
google this because you don't need it. My mind right now, by the
way, tearing their hair out right now whatever. His favorite movies right been
Handsome my god, Yes, yes, I like Pixar movies. I'm just
not as much of a fucking Disney nerd as Mike is. Oh I forgot
there were Disney O Yeah, the Pixar, Yeah were they was Pixar Disney.
When Toy Story came out a good question, mm hmm. I mean
it was fucking crazy scene first Jaws was Disney too, No Hanson, no
hand Jaws Favorite Story has like the same trajectory as Jaws. It's like it
had this perfect one and then they were like, let's get more out of
here, and everyone's like, I don't know. I don't know if you
really generally well liked, because like with Jaws, I feel like everything but
one is different degrees of dislike and like I feel like when Hanson talks about
it, I feel like Hanson would say he fucking loves the first three,
like among his favorite movies ever, and top four maybe step down, you
know, but yeah, I think they're generally one another one. I think
the trilogy of Toy story is beloved. I don't think. I think that
is a very normal opinion that the three Toy Stories are right. And then
at some point they were like we're doing it again, and they really started
like something got lost in the sauce on that there on that fourth one,
I don't know what they were doing. Okay, I feel like Pixar of
the Bloom is off the roads from just what people say, like, I
haven't like it. Sounds like cars went real shitty. I don't know if
Monsters had a bunch of movies or like I thinking one and two we're both
really good. I like those cars drug a mean kind of quality. I
can t l d R cars too, it's insane, okay, you know
to ma. No, No, he's the truck that talks like heavy Southerner
and he's like the cable guys in it, right, yes, okay.
In the second one, he's the CIA agent Larry, the cable guys.
Yes, it's explain that it's off the fucking rails and all these CIA agents
they keep having like crazy things come out of their cars. They can like
zipline to different things and all these things that cars just cannot do because they
don't have hands. But they have other people in this universe. No,
okay, So it's not like there are like dudes and cars that are c
i A Agents. It's just cars. Cars are c i A Agents,
and they're like hanging from zip lines and they're doing like the dunt dund you
know, like wait, no, that's the other one. What's the what's
the stop No, mission impossible in the morning, the mission impossible. That's
mission impossible. Okay, that's what they're doing. And it's cars wouldn't be
sneaky and it doesn't work because it's like tomato. It's absolute batship nonsense.
I don't know how this happened, but I had a friend who was like,
we should watch it, and I was like the whole time, I
was like, I have to be way more drunk for this film. Are
they like retrofitting it? So he was a CIA agent the whole time In
the first movie, No, he stumbles into it works like he's just so
stupid. They mistake him for a CIA agent and he like happens to get
like a really important USB drive in his like trunk, and then he's like
in it. Corky Romano, Orduce Bigelow, Corky Romano. Okay, Corkymano,
asked me, Corkymano or any other movie. I'm gonna say, Corkymano,
the Chris Catan guy. Oh huge. I think everyone that works with
him hated them. Yeah. Really, Norm is the only one. It's
just like I think would openly talk about how he hated them, and seems
like he was disliked. It's so funny. If Norman is like I hate
that guy, I think instinctively, I'm like, hey, my guy must
really suck, like yeah, but he also like super gets along with your
god along with Chevy Chase, who is like the most notorious asshole and like
bigot yeah, and like Norman Rob Schneider were closed. So like Norms just
a weird across the boarder, Schnyder's a He's like a sex pass, isn't
he? I forget what's wrong about sex pass more or just giant dipshit.
I think, Yeah, I feel like norms whole approach was too and I
don't I never fucking met the guy, but it struck me that maybe he
was just meeting someone and within the first ten seconds not even like apropos of
nothing. He wasn't reacting anything. He was just in his head like rolling
a like a die and then if it came up with a certain number and
be like, okay, yeah, I like this person. Yeah, yeah
he was. He was a confusing dude when he was just like some kind
of moral yeah, moral rating, and then at some point he was like,
we go way back. So sure he's just the worst person alive,
but we had some good times him and I in the seventies or whatever.
Jesus, not that early you're thinking of Steve Martin. Him Martin. Uh,
do you want to talk about video games? Yeah? Sure, Mary.
These games that you wrote down look like you made them up. They're
legit games. You talked last week about our last episode about another crabs treasure,
I believe or you pinged us about it. I told yeah on Discord,
Yeah, but it didn't come out. That's what I'm thinking of,
gotcha. I think I said, this is like a Soul's game but with
fish and crabs and stuff, and it's just really surreal. Uh. Anyone
who likes Souls games should probably be a little curious about this game. It's
just it's it's a Soul's game but for absolute underwater dwelling freaks. I think
it's really cool how it like is such a Soul's game. But the one
place they totally pivoted was like the presentation is so bright and cheery and cartoony,
but it's like all of the hallmarks of like a Soul's game. Like
I thought they did a really good job with that. Losing your microplastics,
which is their souls it's micro plus, yeah, is devastating. It is
absolutely gutting. I lost twelve hundred microplastics at a castle and I wanted to
die. It sucks to basically like get to that degree and very similar to
a Souls right, like if you die, you got to go get your
souls. You got to go get your plastics, and if you die again,
they're gone. Baby. It's over brutal design. Absolute fuck you to
any child who thinks that this is going to be an adventure. You're going
to ruined at this game. But I mean it's very rewarding and the man,
the things I've been learning when I play it, it's been really fun.
It's not a joke, like I mean as much as like, oh,
they made a Dark Souls cartoon crab game, Like you might think it's
just like a novelty game or something, but like, yes, no,
there's a real game there. Like it's like all of the like I said,
all the hallmarks. You know, like instead of a bonfire, it's
it's a snail shell and that's where you know, you get your health back.
You basically refill your flasks and all the enemies respawn. Instead of shields,
you're getting different shells and things like that, you know. Cheeky your
level up is as MSG. Yeah, yeah, like no, it's it's
definitely like a lot of humor throughout the game, and it is a light
tone, but like the gameplay, you can just reskin this thing and it's
basically like, you know, I'm not going to say it's like on the
level of design of like a Soul's game, but like, yeah, I
think that's fair. Yeah, it feels like a Soul's like, you know,
because it is it is, and it's it is quite difficult. I
will say, like, I don't know, how far are you, Dan,
Like, I not far, Like an hour or two. I beat
that first boss. Okay, I'm three bosses in and the bosses are manageable,
but they are they are very difficult, and they require a good chunk
of replaying to understand their attack systems. They're all very unique and they have
their own crazy things going on. Is is wild to be in a boss
fight with a weird, puking crab woman who is just constantly vomiting on you,
and you're like, this is for kids. I guess, like it's
crazy that they that they marketed this the way that they did. I'm still
having a hard time wrapping my head around the target audience. Yeah, I
don't think a lot of kids would. I mean, I don't know,
maybe we're selling kids short, maybe they're good at stuff like this, but
like, I don't know, I feel like when you hear about kids playing
games, it's never them playing like from games when they're ten years old or
anything. You know, right, maybe they are maybe. I mean elder
ring sould a lot when we were kids' games really hard and we dealt with
it. I just felt like modern games, this is a lot to ask
for a younger person to get into, I think. But what I will
say is that it's consistently upgrading my abilities. The magic is that what we
call it the magic ability, is really fun to use and it changes completely
based on your shell. There's over what four hundred shells in the game,
which is really cool, and so there's like obviously like under the water shells,
but it could also be a bottle cap or soda can soda can,
Yeah, and I think they're each distinct. And so in one of the
boss fights, there are tea cups littered around, and the tea cups give
you a surge of energy like fast your faster walker, faster fighter, faster
combat. That is a thrill. That is a very big joy to use
that magic item. So, I mean, it's really fun to be able
to change your butt and then like completely change your character. Yeah, I
feel like it's a lot better than you might expect based on kind of the
gimmick, you know. Fair assessment. I think it's a very cute game.
I think it's super fun to play. I plan on finishing it.
The people that I've talked to who have finished it said that it's rewarding until
you are done. And of course you get like the classic uh what does
it call it, like a zip line throw, or you can like you
know, zipzapp to different places and they just thank you. I don't know
why I have. I have completely forgotten the word grappling hook, but you
can. They give you a grapple right away, which is really nice and
rewarding, and they consistently upgrade your character's abilities throughout so that you can defeat
these new enemies with your new little fancy ability. So I think I think
it's neat. I've enjoyed it very much, and I'm looking forward to playing
more of it. Yeah, I think I might keep going with it and
finish up some other stuff and I'd like to go back. You can also
change the the the difficulty, which is cool on the fly. Yes,
so you can just you did I give them any credit? That's pretty good?
Yeah, I mean I would sell it to anyone who's ever played a
Soul's or souls Like. And I would also sell it to younger audiences that
are looking for a hefty challenge, but it would have to be like a
twelve year old with enthusiasm. I would not give this to my eight year
old niece. There is something nice about like as great as from games are.
You know, you start one and it is a like, it is
a assignment, It is a time commitment, it is going to be a
big thing for a long time, and like this does feel like a more
bite sized chunk of like. I like those type of games, but I
don't necessarily want to spend fifty plus hours, one hundred plus hours, you
know, like doing that. So I don't know how long it is.
I can't imagine it's Elden Ring Link or anything. No, So yeah,
yeah, no, I'm thumbs up on that one. Yeah. I've also
finally played more Rise of the Ronan. Speaking of souls Likes, I like
that game. Have you guys played it? Did you try it out?
It was like that Alex Garland movie where I just heard a bunch of people
be like, Eh, it's okay, I got I could play. Then
I talked to Jake about it, but it's men the game. Yeah like
Ninja Theories men, because Ninja Theory most of their stuff is really good.
But I'm not. I keep bouncing off or as they're run in. I'm
only like four hours in. I liked Wolong Fallen Dynasty if you played that
early last year. I liked Neo one. I did not play Neo two
yet, but basically I like anytime Ninja Theory is doing their take on a
souls like, or rather anytime they do a Soul's like, and this one
they went full open world. It I figured to be a good companion game
to Showgun. So I was playing this and I was trying to dig more
into the game, but the open world really just does not invite you to
new places all that well. And also I think open worlds are just spoiled
for me now because I want more to do than just go somewhere, fight
a bunch of guys, come back, deliver something you know, somewhere new,
fight a bunch of new guys, and I like the combat here.
However, I feel like it's stuck somewhere between Neo and Wolong Wolong was much
more fast paced, acrobatic, still very crunchy, but as opposed to Neo,
which was very like you know, Samurai stances more in line with Dark
Souls or not quite as quick as Bloodborne. But this one feels stuck somewhere
between. It's very dependent on which weapons you're using, and the annoying thing
is that they make a big deal about you picking a class that's going to
fit a couple of weapon styles. Really well, you're getting so much loot
so often, similar to in Wolong, that I don't feel like I'm specializing
in any thing. I'm just going with whatever. The best two weapons I
have picked up are also same thing with the armor, Like the fashion is
alternately cool, but then all of a sudden you're wearing like a British aristocratic
colonizers white pearl white shoes with your Samurai gowns so Ronan gowns. I don't
know. The game just feels pretty directionless and the world is gorgeous. It's
not at all on par with like what I consider like the artistry of Ghost
of Sushi Mo, but it's it's one of Ninja theories better looking games in
terms of like the vistas you come across. But I don't know, I
really just there are some systems that just feel ancillary, like you can you
can do that thing where basically you can flick the blood off your sword,
like again, they do that a few times in Showgun. It's cool as
hell to see, but you can only do it between swings off your sword
or your spear or your pol arm et cetera. And I guess it's a
cool system in theory because once you see that your thing is your weapon is
covered in a lot of blood, the more blood you flick off, the
more it adds to your key, which is basically the same as NEO.
It's how it's your man out basically, which you use special abilities for dodging
and whatnot. But if you're just in the open world, I guess it
doesn't like deplete. So basically, you come into any fight and you have
blood all over your sword, I kind of would love to just like flick
it off at the beginning of a fight, like ghost Soushimo is really good
about, Like, if you're not going to stealth kill all these people in
this outpost, call them out. You know how you had that mechanic where
you could be like, come fucking fight me high on or fight whatever what
have you. I wish you could, and I have not figured out a
way to like flick blood off my sword at the beginning of a fight,
which would be a badass intimidation thing in my opinion. I just killed a
few of your friends here at their blood. It's gone. Now let's fight.
But you kind of have to do this weird errant and then flick it
off and then fight. That's such a minor nippick, but it's one of
many, like a litany of things that just lead to it feeling kind of
rudderless. It feels lifeless as hell. I was talking to Jake, and
Jake was just saying, like, the exploration doesn't feel organic. The only
two quests I've gotten that The one mechanic I really like is that once you
free advantage of or a village of bandits, you then get a bunch of
quests or like challenges collectibles for that village that up your relationship with that village,
so the vendors will sell you better stuff like I like that in theory
because it's more like Kurasawa ask like helping these smaller villages one by one.
But in reality it's like, Okay, go do a fetch quest for the
apothecary. Supposedly you got to go up to this hilltop where these bandits are
hanging out camping to get these herbs, but I just found four of those
herbs I need on the way, so I don't even need to go up
there. It feels rushed like overall, and I feel like there's some cool
ideas here storey. Narratively, you're a Blade twin, so you create both
characters at the beginning, and then I won't spoil anything I guess past the
tutorial area, but you basically end up with one of them. I think
that's obvious based on what the trialers have shown. I want to like this
game. I just it's really just pushing me away at every turn, and
the souls like aspects are really kind of minor trivial. I should say,
I don't know. I'd rather go back to wo Long at some point.
Yeah, this tracks with the enthusiasm I've heard, Like I haven't heard a
single person that's like, hell, yeah, this is great, you know,
Like, and I don't hear anyone saying like this sucks. Everyone's just
kind of like, eh, you know, like it's it's honestly team then
just first missed for me since Neo the first Neo. I love Wo long
last year the China meets Fantasy like Three Kingdoms era esque souls like that was
very early twenty three. I love Neo one. I've been mean to play
Neo two forever. This might be my excuse go play Neo two finally,
because this is just not clicking with me. Unfortunately. I'd rather play Ghost
of Sushima or Neo two or elden Ring, which I also started that new
file I talked about. So yeah, and that's an unfair comparison anything you
compared to Elden Rings. Most games are gonna paal in comparison. But yeah,
I think it's fair though that when you talk about when you would spend
your time that you would rather replay a game than try a new one,
I think that is a valid thing to say. I do feel like I'm
not spending my time well playing Rise of the Ronin, which is probably the
worst thing I could say about a game. Great, yeah, yeah,
yeah, huh. I guess if if we're on the from software, souls
like track here. I'll quickly update on Stellar Blade. I play on yellow
Taxi Go room. Look, I don't need to tell you about all of
my intellectual pursuits. Stellar Blade. It's it's good. I played like i'd
say, four hours of it. I think I was surprised. I saw
the announced trailer and I assumed it was gonna be more just kind of like
stylish action Bayonetta style, more like over the top type stuff, and it's
not really that. It kind of takes itself a little more seriously. It's
more deliberate than I expected. Like the combat and you know, the Perry's
and counter attacks are way more from than they are Devil May Cry or Bayonetta.
It's satisfying, like cool boss fights. It looks great. I mean
for a developer that like this is as far as I understand, their first
big attempt at like, you know, a big time console game like this,
it's pretty damn good. It's there is like puzzle stuff that is not
really doing it for me. It's just a lot of like find a thing,
find a note that tells you this sequence to put into a door to
unlock. It's just not a lot going on there. But the actual the
battles and everything are really really well done, and it looks great. It's
a I don't know I'm gonna keep going with it, but overall, I'm
enjoying it. I've been watching some streamers play it, and to be honest
with you, most though, I've had nothing but good things to say about
it. It's like a nice The combat seems fluid and smooth, and uh,
it's a joy to play and watch her climb ladders, and I think
people are really enjoying it. Yeah, it's solid. Everything is really solid.
I mean, Mike would give it. But oh I love butts.
I'm telling you, but watch her climber rope. It's crazy. Well sorry,
woh god, what's this game called? So I know to avoid it,
tell her Blade Stellar Blade Climb a Rope. I had a whole file
on this lady whoas she's not you can't deny it. Yeah, she's okay.
I think it's great. Uh, she looks good doing it. I
would like to be her. I have not played this yet, but it
is tempting because I've seen a lot of people really enjoying this game, and
I've watched so I've watched people play it. I have not watched it,
but I've been observing other people playing it, and it seems pretty fun.
I think if you're into that, you know, studying boss attacks and counter
attacking and windows and stuff like that and upgrade trees. It's it's it's one
of those, and it's a good one of those. Yeah, Mary,
what that? What that? What that? What the age is Harold Halibate
Harold Halibit is a narrative game, a point and click adventure, and it
is claymation based and it took fourteen years to make this game. It just
came out. I would love to read you the synopsis I can. I'll
tee you TLDR it. You're on a ship and it's been two hundred and
fifty years since essentially we left Earth because I think it was going to die
or something. They're kind of vague about that, and everybody got on like
an arc that was a spaceship and now it's underwater somewhere and the environment is
so freaking cool for this game because you are underwater and there's these fish and
stuff. But you are a mechanic essentially on this arc, fixing things for
people, and that's your life. It's kind of a boring life, and
if you think about it, you've been You know, this arc has existed
for two hundred and fifty years, so Harold was like born on this ship.
He doesn't know anything else besides like life on this ship. It's pretty
fun as long as you're interested in a point and click adventure, which,
as we all know, point click adventures are very cocky and it's very slow.
It's very west Anderson from these images, I'm sitting here very Wes Anderson.
I think it's cheeky. The comedy is cute, the writing is interesting,
the story is very intriguing, and I want to be very cautious with
spoilers because I didn't even look at a trailer before I played this game,
and I recommend that right because a lot of this. For the first three
hours of this game, you are doing mechanic tasks. Your boss asks you
to clean the filter and something's not working, and so you got to like
figure out what's wrong. And there's different systems in this arc that it's a
ship really that helped power it, and you have to like get the right
rock to help your scientist boss discover things about why your power is the power
on the ship is going down a little bit. But each time you do
one of these little tasks for someone, you uncover a little bit more about
the mystery of this place. You learn a little bit more about this weird
mayor and like what is their deal? You learn a little bit more about
the story. And there's some really good cliffhangers that are going on right now
with this story about like what happened to Earth? And why are we stuck
in the water? And where are we going? It asks really good questions
and it's just it's just got some really good intriguing pieces to it. But
I will say, in classic point and click adventure style, it will take
you three hours before you're like, oh, I think I like this game,
and it's it's just a slow point click, you know, it's really
good. I think you might like talkie games more than you let on.
I don't what huh? I didn't say that? Dan is right? Oh
I did you added that your soundboard? I am not saying that just creep
out so much. I appreciate the agreement, but yeah, that's my voice.
Wait, Dan, what was that other opinion you were going to share
a few minutes ago? I don't have farts. What are you talking about?
No, Dan, you were going to say that, what were your
thoughts on cozy games? That you were going to provide your opinion on cozy
games? No, I mean they're not like real games. Dan is right.
I don't agree with any of this. Get it off your soundboard?
Probably right, that's MINAUGHTI Oh my god, the discord what are you doing?
That is not my voice? Oh my god, you aren't such a
psycho. You did not sound like the edits. No No, last episode
you agreed to the on a resident evil thing, and I was like,
I'm gonna write the time stamp on that. Now. I don't believe you
wrote this down that. Dan is right. Damn it. I'm not saying
this. I've been using that one podcast. Oh my god, hold these
down. Dan is wrong, Dan is stupid, Dan is right. Damn
it. Did you say Dan smell? Dan is right? Yes? I
want him to use that more. I can't. I don't know technically do
that. That sounds complicated, like a waste of time. Frankly, all
right, move on. I've been playing something called Thrones of Decay that has
been capturing my attention. Uh, it's a strategy game surprise. Oh my
god, I'm shot elevator pitch is that you spend half of it? Oh
my god, h you spend half of Thrones. Do you want us to
hate you the whole podcast? Yeah, go ahead. Thrones are decay.
You spend like half, if not more, of it, like building up
a civilization on a turn bass turn based campaign map, managing your economy,
trade routes, different city, et cetera, building up your armies, and
then the other half is when those armies clash, you go into like real
time strategy battles. The cool thing about this is that it's also like heavily
satirized, like fantasy World. So you've got like vampires fighting the wolves.
There's rats, there's there's like the Empire at the height of the Holy Roman
Emprior kind of vibes fighting like fantasy Russia. So Thrones of Decay is super
cool because it adds new campaign mechanics to different legendary lords, these leaders within
these factions. So the new Dwarf leader, did I mention this is DLC
for Total War Warhammer three? You motherfucker? You got us? You do
know the game, then, don't you? Now? Because we had a
whole thing last week about it. I don't know the game, I know
what's the thing you like? Once you said rats, my mind started.
That's in all my favorite all my favorite games have rats. It's a prerequisite.
Is there a rat and war Frame in war Frame? Yeah? Ah,
don't so you're fully ship I don't think so. Okay, you're right,
yeah, correct. I shouldn't have said that. Was that a clean
read? Okay, you're correct? Write Wait Maryhann what was that? Mike
Dan is an asshole? Oh yeah, okay, I can't use that to
give you a good one? All right, go ahead, go ahead.
Mike Prime is made of donkey come. Oh my god, it's not anywhere
on the ingredients. I can't use that either. I've been playing the Ship
out of Warhammer three's new d write it down, right down. It's really
good. It's a waste of time. I can't use that. I'm not
going to monopolize any more conversation Warmer three. But okay, genuinely, by
Prime, genuinely, this may be the Warhammer trilogy's best DLC. It's awesome
that they added a bunch of new wrinkles to the factions, as opposed to
just new units. So if it's like we're talking Reddler two, it's like,
all right, URI's factions about mind control. Imagine a new leader who
comes in and it's less about mind control than it is about like syop taking
over the enemy forces, et cetera. Stuff like that. They actually like
wreath bank rethunk rethunk a bunch of the different warhammer I factions, dwarfs and
then sounds like the right word. But I believe you the idea that it's
called bothers something that doesn't seem like a real word, but I think it
is. You say, doesn't. No, you can't prove that I don't
a real word. I don't drink this prime. Don't that's how you're pronounce
it. I'm gonna drink my prime. I'm make a soundboard of nothing but
Mike pretending to be you, And I agree, Dan, I'm gonna drink
my palm with some Joe's burnt ends out. That sounds fucking great. I
agree with that person that was weird. No, wonder you've smelled more.
No, that's all done. I don't sign like one day where it was
weird. I'm smelling good. Now. Do you know what the pros I
think it's probably my body fighting a crazy infection for a month. Yeah,
infection, Yeah, and a bunch of weird antibiotics and steroids and stuff.
That's probably the culprit and not prime. You just said, Oh, infections
sounds like a character one of the new Legendar Lords and throws it decay is
based around infections. I'm not kidding. It's Tom or Com the Maggot Lords.
Why can't that be my sounds anything besides what you've given me, it's
a good one. Grub gave me a clean read today too, so I'm
filling up, Like Dan, what were you saying? What was it that
you were saying about the fact that Dredge was really high up our our Game
of the Year less last year. I mean, look, it's not a
terrible game, but it definitely didn't deserve to be anywhere near a top ten.
Dan is right. Ah, wow, she really agreed with me.
That was I heard one. You could just fuck me at any moment,
anytime, and like just ruin the way that I want to feel. I'm
not doing a podcast in which we can fuck you. This is a zero
out of ten for me. This is most anti come on, I've never
had take it out. Look, there's no way physically I can do that.
Dan is right. I do think Dan is probably right. I hate
this. It's great too, because we'll upload our local tracks, so it's
very easy to get a nice, clean read there. Oh you. The
fact that you took your time to go through my solo track and then got
a timestamp of when I said something moderately positive about you and then placed it
in a soundboard to punish me says a lot about you. I mean right,
Dan is right, absolute nasty file garbage, chuck man. I hate
you. Well, how about that, Sam? But I agree with you
on a game he recommended to me. Let's hear it Children on Sunday.
Are you dead the rat game? Mike, I don't want to cut you
off. Yeah, okay, that sounds good. Yeah, I uh okay.
Mary. You gave me the hard sell on Children of the Sun last
episode, and I checked it out and I sat down and I played it
twice and beat it. I did it in two sessions. I was having
so much fun with it. It is kind of exactly what I wanted.
Like there was just like a night where I actually had some free time and
I was like oh what am I gonna play kind of between stuff. I
don't want to get in back into the acid. That's a big time equipment
thing. Children of the Sun was like a few hours long. It does
not wear out. It's welcome. It seems like every stage. It tends
every stage or two, I would say, it introduces a little wrinkle in
just the way they kind of like layout where the enemies are or where oh
okay, now you can shoot these car things and they blow up, and
now you're getting these different vantage points through birds and fish and stuff. Now
you're bending the bullets. Now you're doing the thing where there's a whole new
thing with weak points and you get a couple of shots and you can completely
reaim your bullet in mid air. It is totally my type of game.
It is very dewey. You were right about the story stuff. It's faced
like, ah, you're an evil colt. There's a guy who're gonna wind
up killing him. That's it. Yeah, that's totally fine. And it
does like fun little interstitial stuff after every handful levels where it's like here's a
weird little pac Man minigame while you clean your gun, or here's like a
car sequence or here's like it mixes things up enough to keep that interesting.
The challenge is really there. I thought the last level was extremely smartly put
together where I don't want to spoil the actual mechanics, but it's like a
multi phase thing before you get to the very end. And I tried so
many different times, and like I normally, I wasn't getting mad when I
failed, because it was like, Okay, now I'm gonna need to I
need to get that guy first because he has eyes on that one, and
then I can go up to the bird. I got two birds I can
use and figure out. Like it's just it is such a smart game.
It's a puzzle game, it's a sniping game. It's got style out the
ass it is. It's so good. It's the right length if you're looking
for something short. They do a remarkable amount of things with just the mouse.
You know. I was asking last the episode of like be a good
Steam deck game, and after playing it, it's like, no, I
think you should play this at the mouse, Like it's really uh, you
don't even need like anything on your keyboard. It's just like moving around ding
the bullets. Yeah, left, right, click, yeah, wheel,
you do a lot of great stuff with just that. Yeah, it's uh.
I was very very into that game, enjoyed every second of it.
So, uh, top notch recommendation. Mary's that's great. Would you say
that I was right about that game? You? Yeah? You Mary?
Watching him work through the logic of that just now and he almost pressed the
button. Yeah, I did, like, wait a minute, that it
makes sense, doesn't work. It finally doesn't work. I got to actually
talk. Mary was right, absolutely, yes. Oh but let's go tip
for tat here. All right. So you gave me a homework assignment last
time, I'm gonna give you one for the next episode. All right,
okay, yeah, I love this all right, mini shoot, as I'm
telling you this fucking game. This is like one or two heard for you
to say that. I put it in our discord, pay it. I
link to it. I gave the heart cell the discord and interview responded.
So I'm gonna do it here, say animal. Well, I'm not prepared.
No, I can't talk about that yet, but you you encourage me
to play it. But I also scroll up, scroll up, scrolling,
there we go. I link to the same page. Many, shoot,
it's about Okay, here's the deal. It's a bad name. There's a
fucking random apostrophe in it after Mini Shoot, which I don't know what the
hell that's about, and it's gonna be on our GODI for worst name,
honestly, yeah, because it's kind of a crime, because this game is
fucking awesome and it's got a bad title, a weird apostrophe, and frankly,
the art is pretty like it's not it doesn't really stand out. It's
very clean and Chris and you know what you're looking at. So it's good
for gameplay, but it like you're not going to sell anyone off the art
style it is. It is a bullet out so it's Geometry Wars meets Zelda.
You know, it's a twin stick shooter meets Zelda with some Metrodvania elements.
So you've got an open map, like really simple art it is.
It is, Yeah, absolutely, so like let's get that. That's the
negatives out of the way right right away. All of the gameplay stuff.
This it's just dopamine the game. It is everything from the leveling out,
like the upgrades that you get, to the sounds everything makes when you're shooting
it, like the upgrades are fucking fantastic. So imagine getting like when you're
playing a shoot them up and you get the thing that turns your one beam
of a fire into two and splits. You're constantly getting feelings like that,
but it's in a fucking Zelda type game, so like it somehow feels so
much more impactful when it's not just a vertical scroller or something like that.
It's like, oh shit, I have this thing, and now I can
break through these rocks and so this whole part of the map is open now
you know, metrod shit. But then it's also got straight up dungeons where
you're getting keys, you're kind of solving, you're having kind of arena fights
and big boss fights at the end and everything, and it's it's got a
great upgrade tree. It all feels super impactful, like all the upgrades you
get, and it's super easy to like they're like, like, you know,
you'll meet a character that wants to race you, and you can so
easily go into your upgrades and take crystals out of like your damage and your
fire range and stuff and put it into your move speed or your boost speed
for the race, and then go right back out to the overworld, throw
all your stuff and damage and everything, and and get back at it.
It's I would say, you play this game for five minutes and you know
you're gonna love it. And I one hundred percent of it. I loved
it so much that took about nine hours. It is a killer steam Deck
game, runs great on the Steam Deck. Would be an incredible flight game.
I mean it has to. It's like made of clip art. I
was, I was talking about how much I love it, and Mike Manatti
was like, wait, Dan, how was this not like you can marry
someone shit for a hollow night looking like a flash game, and this game
looks ridiculously simple. But I believe you with how good the gameplay looks.
I love bullet Hells, so like, this is not a tough sell for
me. This seems really fun. Then then yeah, next episode. I
would love to hear your thoughts because I have rec I have like fully soapbox
evangelical for this game to so many friends and people outside the industry, people
in the industry, and one hundred percent success rate. Every single person I've
shown it to has been like, this is awesome. I also really do
like steam Deck games because I've been traveling a lot. It's so nice.
I no longer carry my switch. It's steam Deck all the way on my
plane. And being able to have five it sounds like a lot, but
five solid steam Deck games ready and to go is a joy. It's like,
I've already beat Bilatro today, so I need something else to keep me
going. I guess I'll play a little bit of another Crabs Treasure. I'm
stuck on Boss all right, I'll play Mini Shoot Adventure. You need like
three to five games to keep you going. That's exactly what I've got this
flight through Europe coming up, and so I just I'm keeping a running list
of like, Okay, I want to load my steam Deck up with stuff
that, like I've got this twelve hour flight or whatever. Let me see
what I got here. You're you're a big steam Deck travel person, so
let me let me hear what you think of these. Stardu had an update.
I've been hearing Monster Train as good Slay the Spire. I didn't play
as much good as I went to Monster Train on steam Deck. Is I
put like one hundred hours into it on steam Deck. It's awesome. Yeah,
I've heard good things a Yellow Taxio Room of course, another Crabs Treasure
Animal. Well yeah, yeah, So like I think stuff like Slay the
Spire and Monster Train and Stardo if I get into, like, if I
get into the groove of that, those will just let time melt away.
So like that's you're right, Mary, that the Steam Deck is so versatile,
and like, I love the Switch. It's had a fucking incredible run,
but at this point run it's underpowered, and the library isn't as crazy.
I mean, obviously Steam Deck has all of Steam and Laters and ship,
so yeah, it has everything the body needs. And I just don't
think that there's any reason to go with a Switch anymore unless you're a mom.
I've had a mom ask me what handheld she should get, and I'm
like, get a Switch. But like, yeah, Steam dut just needs
Breath of the Wild and Tears the Kingdom, then man, you can make
that happen too. Yeah, but uh yeah, yeah, Mary, I
I feel incredibly confident in you liking, like, even just as a bullet
hell game, it is fantastic, but the fact that it's in this wrapping
of a full on Zelda map open world thing, like it's it's great It's
just a fantastic fucking game, and I will be pushing hard for it come
Game of the Year. I will I will take a look, yepure,
what's going on with that apostrophe? Um? No raps? That really intellectual?
You know? Is that really a thinky? It's it's it is hell
if this fucking game doesn't win most Dewey of the Year, and then something's
wrong with our you mine. There's so many dewey games this year, not
as dowey as many shooting goods. I thank you. Oh my god,
that's gonna lose its value so fucking fast. What was that thing you were
saying about Hollow Night Silk Song? Oh, it's never gonna come out,
and when it finally does, it's gonna be it's gonna be disappointing. It's
a machine gun. I will overpower my own obnoxious Jake on Mary's Local.
Can you just kind of mute that for that? Put it up video evidence
now help me? Now, I want to pull that out and just hear
Margaret Oh, I could use that too, if it's something that would be
funny for her to disagree with. Richard Richard Nixon was a terrible president all
right, let me make a note to grab that Mary disagree thing. Okay,
my autonomy. You ought to have a total arcs animal. Have you
both played Animal? Well, we can't talk about that. Oh why did
you write it down? I did? We didn't. What are you talking
about? Oh? Mary said it earlier? I said it? Because we're
not allowed to talk about it. We've agreed that we're going to play it
and talk about it next episode when we're allowed to talk about it, and
we both agreed to talk about it, we cannot talk about it yet.
Warning. Oh content warning. That's a short one. So that's a remember
Lethal Company. Yep, it's that, But it's you are like YouTubers who
are going down into a mine and you're basically trying to make money by monetizing
crazy videos. So you're like one person will have a camera and you have
a limited amount of like you know, videotap basically or best card space.
It's like you'll do an intro and you can do like selfie, like hey
guys, we're here, I'm Dan going down to the mines with Mike and
Mary. Mike say something might jump off the roof. Mary, you do
this crazy thing like as you do crazy things or whatever. It will add
like at the end of the level, when you come up from the mines,
it put you burn it to a disc and you all sit around at
TV and watch it and you can watch like a live chat react to it.
So if like Mary falls to her death or gets eaten by a spider,
you'll see a bunch of people be like, oh shit, Mary,
what a dumbass? Like, Oh, that's that sucked. You're like,
oh, man, I hope she's okay. Like and so the more crazy
stuff you shoot while you're in the mines, the more likes you get,
the more monetized it is. So it's just it's the Lethal Company thing,
but instead of I found a screw, give me money, it's I shot
this crazy thing. Put it on. It's called spook Tobe, I think.
And yeah, I monetized it, and I got to a certain a
mount after three days or whatever, and you're buying new stuff, so you
can buy microphones. There's like green screens and stuff, so you can like
shoot stuff in front of that. It's just a harder comedic bend to than
Lethal Company. I would say, oh interesting, Yeah, I think I
think it would make for a very fun uh maybe Patreon video or play session
with us. Oh okay, I was I was curious what the art style
looked like. And it's like it's clip art minus one. But they're they're
like old school scuba divers with Yeah, I know. The face masks are
like, uh, what do you want to call them? Key? And
you can also type that in so your face can just say ass or whatever.
And you you live in like a farmhouse like this idea, like farmhouse
and stuff. Then you just go down in this horrible held Kafka world or
whatever. Uh. It's it's cool. It's a really cool idea. I'm
not above ass for face. I think I might have done ass. I
think I did ass. Yeah, but it's funny. And it's from the
people who made uh Landfall publisher. That's from the people who made like tabs
totally accurate battle simulation. Oh it's them. Okay, interesting, Okay that
that checks out. Okay, that makes sense with the content minds. Yeah,
it's fun. Do you think that they ripped this idea though? I
mean it's pretty straight up like Lethal Company. It's like I think they it's
a funnier angle on it than Lethal Company. But yeah, there's there's no
doubt there's an inspiration there. Okay, yeah, all right, do you
guys want to talk about video games that? What do you guys want to
do emails? Oh yeah, okay. As usually, you can write to
fire Escape casts at gmail dot com. The questions comments concerns constructive feedback.
I don't read that mainly questions about video games or otherwise. Uh, we
have one here. First off, that's not really a question. Mike Manatti
just needs some attention, so he wrote into the fire Escape cast, sound
like Mike. For the record, I know at one point, uh me
and Mike were good friends. Uh huh uh that has changed. I actually
decided he's dead to me, Oh I saw this cliff, so, uh
we got a dead guy, right. And then the I don't know,
I don't know what you're talking about. Was it the Twitch clip when he
called him Matt Maharty and he goes, wait, we have the same name.
I forget Yep, that's the one. We're best friends. So uh,
I'll read this one from the dead guy. How about fire Escape.
On the last episode, you were asked to name game series? Okay,
well, his grammar is also terrible. In addition to being dead, you
were asked to name a game series. I'll fill that in for you,
making me edit your work. I guess that's more extra work. Cool with
one bad game, and Final Fantasy came up after you look at a list
online. I thought this guy wrote for a living as a Final Fantasy fan.
I don't think that one really works, at least if we're talking about
mainline number games. Yeah, f F thirteen gets plenty of criticism, and
it certainly deserves some, but it has a great battle system and gorgeous visuals
that still look great. What's your question? Great twice in that it's Metacritic
is like astrophe with its metacritics. Yep, it's Metacritic is like three,
so definitely not near the series plural. It's not plural. Oh no,
no, far from being a bad game. A lot of FF games have
been in the mid to low is probably right, thank you. I think
that's why Dan hasn't heard any enthusiastic praise for a main Final Fantasy. Outside
of the remakes. There's still good games, but it's been a while since
one was university universally loved. Aside from Final Fantasy fourteen, but Dan doesn't
know about that because it's an MMO, And before he says that he doesn't
know anyone who plays it, I told him that I play it many times,
that is all Matt Manatti. Well I know that now, Mike,
because you say that you play it many times. But that's going to be
gone in four to six hours, so I'm going to go right back to
no one I know playing Final Fantasy fourteen MMOs. Thanks Matt, okay questions
please, Yeah, I don't need your I don't need your meg megalomaniacal ramblings
in our box, Mitch for you got him, Yeah, you got under
Manatti, you got under his skin. Listen, you don't want me on
your bad side because I'm like ice baby. I think I think Manatti could
kick your ass. This is just like the Drake and Kendrick Lamar Beef.
I will write the sixth, six minute, twenty second disc track of Mitch
Manatti. I don't like your I don't like the way you game. I
don't like the way that you write questions in his best posturephes the motherfucker?
All right, Dan, do you want to read this one from Darien?
Yes? Der Escapists below is a list of items. Choose one of the
other. Please be a biased This isn't one of those hypotheticals where one discard
stops existing or whatever. Oh okay, so just one better friendly one versus
the other. Okay, caramel or chocolate? Wait? Do you want to
are we doing like three two one? Say it? Or like how we
like? How are we doing this? Yeah, let's do I'll say it
and I'll go one two three boom and we'll do quick rad fire here we
go. Okay, caramel or chocolate? One two three? Caramel? Carma?
Chocolate? What is caramel? Me and Bob were talking about caramel today.
You say caramel? Or do you say caramel? Caramel? I always
said carmel, but yeah I started. I started saying caramel as a child,
but as a sophisticated man, now I say caramel. You can think
first person games, A, third person games one two, three, third
person games? Oh first third? I wasn't paying attention to third third third?
Agreed? Hotels are Airbnb one two three, B and b's. It's
getting weirder, it's getting worse. The reason I still like airbnbs is because
they're traditionally more dog friendly and I take my dog everywhere, so an Airbnb
is more likely to be dog friendly. But if if it was a hotel
that was dog friendly or an Airbnb, I'd probably pick the hotel. Sure,
yeah, Airbnb is getting worse. I hear it's mainly cost right,
Yeah, and sometimes sometimes the hosts are weird, Like sometimes the hosts are
like, hey, before you leave, take all the sheets off of the
bed and put them in the washer and make sure all But the thing is
is like I'm paying a cleaner to come in. I pay for that cleaner.
Why are you making me strip my own bed? I don't. I
just like don't agree with their systems. I don't agree. I don't even
think I should do the dishes. I know that some people would be like
Mary, that's gross dish in a hotel room I leave, like the food
on the floor. It's just like this is a part of the exchange of
services that we have agreed upon. This is a part of it. Is
that I don't have to clean up after myself. I don't like that in
an airbnb. Like I'm like wiping down the counter on the kitchen before where
I leave so that I don't get a bad rating, and it's like I'm
paying a cleaner to come in here, let them clean after my burger.
I just don't understand it. It is like a different dynamic too. It's
like this more like Oh, I'm at this person's place versus like, Oh,
I'm at this corporation's place with you know, a million people that work
here and stuff corporations. He always loves I'm with the small guy. Yeah,
I'm from the dirt. I'm from the Middle America. Swirling Dad one,
kick your ass, love die bars, love those those those Miller high
Lives boy Lives. Turn based or real time strategy one two three real time
turn base. I love real time turn based games, but most of the
strategy games I play in real time, I always prefer turn based. I
like to have a good thinks before I make my decision. I do not
like to be pressed, and I like to enjoy turn based combat systems.
Mike Whennati's favorite apples or pears? One two three apples apples, pears,
I think it's a hard one. Like if I were to eat one after
a jog, I think it would be an apple. But if I were
to turn some fruit into like a dessert, for people and impress them.
I would probably pick pears. There's no loser here. I prefer white wine.
It tastes similar to pears over apples. You said apple though, huh
you said, Oh, I know, I prefer the fruit apples over pears,
but I prefer like in terms of white wine, fair hinting apples everywhere.
I think apple is like the favorite child of fruit for some reason.
Like every time you get a juice and it's like mixed juice and there's like
dragonfruit in here, it's like ninety apple apples over taken the industry, the
fruit industry. It's just a little overwhelming for me. I like the flavor
of pears better, but the texture of apples better. Pears are they got
a little bit of grain to them. I just think that pears are like
the rooty of fruit, like they're doing a really good job, and I
don't think they get enough credit. I'm with you on that. Yeah,
it's an interesting pair for sure. Mario or Zelda one two three mariolda,
Oh, I wasn't ready. I have to think. I can't believe you
guys were able to make decisions about that so quickly. They're both so valuable
for different reasons. I would oh man, and like as a as an
entirety, or like which one I would play right now? There's so many
different ways gone to your head. Yeah, go Mario. You guys are
fucking heathens. I know I love platformers. Yeah, me too. Finally,
beer or liquor one two three liquor liquor. Beer is really good too.
And I used to say beer, but in my older state, like
a vodka soda is just gonna it's gonna work with me a lot better than
like five beers, which is so heavy. It's just hard. It's just
hard. Yep, I'm with you. They're both great, but doing more
towards liquor these days. No losers cocktails. Yeah, thank you Darien.
Yeah from Toronto. I should have had you read this one, Dan,
Mary, you can read this one, but I guess the first paragraphs directed
at Dan, I mean, who cares? Greetings Escaping Fire Team, Dan.
I was in the same position you were when it came to fitness and
running. Accept instead of a marathon, I signed up for a tough mutter.
After listening to the last couple of episodes and everyone mentioning that they wanted
to start running more and or exercise. I would highly recommend the group look
into one tough mutter free, prime free finisher, beer free t shirts,
metals, and much more, three five and ten plus mile distances, teamwork
oriented and no penalty or shame for walking or skipping any obstacle. These events
have changed my life and kept me in shape. It's an amazing community and
always a lot of fun. Speaking of which, if you had to live
the rest of your life as a physical food product, which would you want
to be? Kyle? What? That took a bit of a serence speak.
You can't. You can't just say speaking of which and that's that works?
Yeah, but a banana. I want to let me let me think
about that. I'll touch on this tough motter thing I've done that. I've
done a couple of ten K's not the officual like tough mutter thing. It's
just the whatever they call it that I've done. It's been a while,
but it's fun. Yeah, it's just a bunch of like you know,
climbing ropes, climbing under barbed wire ship. Uh, you get the beers
at the end, just your mess. They posey down afterwards, like yeah,
they're fine, they they're they're good, but yeah, yeah, I
could see myself in one of those at some point. Uh food as a
physical food product, I think you'd be a dip and stick, you know
what I'm talking about, where it's like a thing that kids get in their
lunch box and it's like, uh, pretzels and then oh oh yes,
it's like really gross manufactured cheese. No no, no no. I've had
ten thousand of those, and they are I think God himself, Yeah,
I think that's you manufactured cheese product on the go, thank you. Because
there are the pretzels, there are like the actual crackers, there are different
kinds of cheese ones. They were like, well the cheese ones are fucked
up because it's like it comes with like they're they're spreading. Utensil is a
fucking just like red rectangles made of plastic. It's like, and what fucking
world is this a knife or a utensil for spreading? It's just a red
rectangle Like this sucks, Like I love the components, I love the edible
pards, but make this easier on my mummy. The hell were those called?
I remember dunker ruse, the sweet versions. I never really had those
crack They were coveted when I was growing up, but not as coveted as
Gusher's handy snacks. That's what they were called. Oh handy snacks. Yeah,
yeah, totally. The pretzels were my favorite. I would like to
think of myself as a popular snack that people would enjoy. Now I'm paranoid.
You ruin this podcast for me. My job to think of myself popular
snack. Damn it. I don't sound like that. All I do such
a good marry that I could say anything and you could just pretend it's Mary
Dan. Give me a line, Give you a line. Yeah, give
me a line. I'll be merry and you can snip it and it'll be
merry. In the future, I could go for a handy snack. I
could go for a handy's back. That is, you know, Mikey,
you're pretty pretty close. Dan is right. Technology is ruined us. I
would be a banana. I would be sick. I'm a handy stack.
I guess your cheese product. Sure, I have easy cheese. I'm a
sharp cheddar easy cheese. Can I think that we should decide them for each
other. I think Mike is a grapefruit because it's healthy, and healthy people
enjoy it, and people who like think better of themselves enjoy it, and
everyone else is like, I'm not eating that shit, what I think better?
Wait? Do what? People don't like grapefruit? You're you're you're talking
about like people who are fasting and all they have for breakfast is a half
grapefruit and like coffee. Yeah, and they rave about it and it changes
lives and it's good for them. I eat a lot of grapefruit, but
I don't like only eat grapefruit. I've never I don't think I've ever been
in the same room as a grapefruit. Oh damn. Some of the best
cocktails have grapefruit. No, I've tasted, I probably ingested grapefruit. I've
just never like just straight up fruit room and there's a tube from the grapefruit
to you. Now it's like an ingredient and a cocktail. I'm sure I've
drank, you know, fifty cocktails with its. Like. I don't think
I've ever like looked at a thing and been like, oh, I'm looking
at a grapefruit like as it comes, they look like they look like that,
like that sound the edit floor. It never gets to come back.
I see them when they're in their process, and Dan's looking at me.
I'd be a grapefruit. I love grape It's one of my favorite flavors.
Great, I'm gonna Hemingway dakies. All right? Those are yours? Cheese
product? Dan? Grapefruit? Mike all right? Uh? Murray is a
Huh you're you're You're like a cup of black coffee. Because you can be
pretty, you can be pretty bitter. But but like, but people really
get to know you know that you're very addictive, pleasant and the multi billion
dollar industry energizing and uh and you know, like inspiration. I think you're
like those circus peanuts. Damn it, the big orange ones, you know,
like you know what I mean? Dan is right, you not lose
fuel cheese product, no coffee's How about what are you get me out of
this? Let's rate Dan? You rate Mike. I'm disfusing Mike as a
person. Oh no, you're giving him the rating of a food product.
What because I said he was a grapefruit? What do you think Mike is?
Oh? U? Could you imagine us fusing each other? Weird man,
He'd be some food that I've never bought or eaten or thought of in
my life. It just be something a very like specialty food thing that I
gets a grapefruit, let's go grape fruit. I definitely forgot that you have
never thought of me in your life. No, I mean no, it
wouldn't the food. The food would be a thing that would like I've never
heard of because it's like this a very particular ingredient, is very specific thing
that is like celery cocktails last weekend, your clar Dan, your celery that
seems too healthy because you're up mcgroovers. You want all right, I'm sellary.
Why is Mary a circus peanut? Remind me? Yeah? Oh my
god? Thank you Kyle, you say, call Kyle like Cartman. Kyle,
Thank you, k thank you to die Well. Thank you Kyle,
Thank you Darien, and thank you Matt dead Man. The worst episode of
my life. I thought it was one of our better ones than God.
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we gonna say about? No, No, it's don't happened. It doesn't
happen. No, it isn't it possible. That's right, that's right,
all oh, that's fine fine dan Is right, bye bye. I'll ruin
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