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com. All right, let's get
started with today's podcast. Our very special

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guest today comes from the Netherlands and
he reached out a few months ago.

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And as you guys know, we're
making our way through the list and today's

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special guests again, is Rodney.
Rodney, thank you so much for taking

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the time to join us this evening. Thank you for having me. George.

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Why don't you go ahead, let's
start things off. Introduce yourself to

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the audience. Yeah, Well,
I'm Rodney. I'm forty one years old

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and I live in the Netherlands.
I was born in the Dutch Caribbean and

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I was raised in the Netherlands.
We moved to the Netherlands when I was

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about a year old. And yeah, I've been a flat earth earth since

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I think twenty sixteen something like that. And as soon as I, you

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know, got hit to the flat
Earth, I consumed all the information I

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could and yeah, and basically I
just put it on the back burner because,

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yeah, I could. There was
no one I could talk to about

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this. A couple of people,
so my wife and a close friend of

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mine. But you know, it's
like, you know, what can you

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do with it? And yeah,
so I put it on a back burner.

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I still believed it, though,
but I didn't, you know,

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research anymore. And then I came
across your your podcast, and uh,

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I listened through through you know,
I back to back. I listened to

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everything and I thought, odd,
he's an awesome guy, and I just

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wanted to reach out to you,
you know, and let you know my

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story. Well, thank you for
reaching out and thank you for your patients.

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Now, you grew up in the
Caribbean Netherland. That's is that like

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a Ruba kirosoal that area down there. Yeah, yeah, you know.

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I was born in Kasa, but
when I was a year old, I

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moved to the Netherlands. So I
grew up in the Netherlands. So I'm

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yeah, for all intents and purposes, I'm I'm Dutch, okay. So

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not much of a memory of Caros
for sure, No, not really.

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I have a very good memory though. You know, I can remember.

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I can remember things from when I
was a year old, stuff like that.

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I can remember arriving in the Netherlands
and stuff like that. But you

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know, not really, I don't
have a real connection with where I was

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born. Gotcha. Now, you've
been a flat earther for eight years now,

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so you were very much on the
original band again with I guess you

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probably mark Sergeant flat Earth Clues that
type of thing, right exactly. Yeah,

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that was where the flat Earth Golden
ages. Uh. If you can

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call it that. You know,
YouTube was acting normal back then. You

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know, you will get you get
what you will get the right videos,

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you know, suggested if you were
searching for something, And yeah, I

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went through Mark Sergeant, I went
through I went to a lot man,

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I have to just dig Robs Ciba. I went to Eric Dubay, I

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went to even you know, the
I even witnessed the thing that Joe Rogan

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became became a flat Earth, and
then suddenly when it gained traction, he

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just announced it, he up and
announced it. And yeah, you know

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I was there. I was there
for all of that. And Owen Benjamin,

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I witnessed him. I think everybody's
watched that. That was fun to

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watch. Yeah, that was that
was so incredible because it illustrated exactly how

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I felt. I took him a
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I had. I had more of
a compressed time of of you know,

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those uh, those feelings. And
yeah, I witnessed it was the Golden

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Agents man and and and and flat
earth was going real hard on on YouTube.

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And I thought, at this rate, my next year, everybody's going

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to be a flat Earth. That's
actually what you know, I really thought

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that I thought, you know,
this is the new thing. Everybody's gonna

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know this, you know. So
there also a lot of groups on you

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on Facebook popping up that had tens
of thousands of followers of flat earth groups,

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you know, and it was going
real fast back then. So yeah,

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yeah, and obviously I think it
was just two years later, twenty

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seventeen, you start to see the
algorithm change. Like you know, back

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then, if you saw a flat
earth video, the next video would recommend

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would be another flat earth video.
Now it'll go from that to say Professor

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Dave, or if I'm watching an
alternative news channel, the next one will

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be ABC News. So they're yeah, they goes certainly trying to throw you

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off. It's it's it's sad.
Yeah, it goes straight from an alternative

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news to Fox News or CNN,
you know, something something like that.

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Yeah, they broke it. So
yeah, it's it's a shame because you

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used to also be able when when
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Mark Sergeant or someone, and they
would suggest similar channels on their on their

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channel. That was a great way
just you know, to browse through YouTube.

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Because the same people that I think
that they checked which which kind of

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people watched Mark Sargeant, And these
are the things that they would also watch.

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These are the channels that they would
also watch. So that was a

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good tool, you know, Yeah, but they destroyed that. Do you

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think now? Obviously I think YouTube
had to be kind of hijacked in order

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for them to pull off COVID,
Otherwise people would have found information too much.

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But I do think that the flat
Earth phenomenon was a part of them,

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with Google or whoever buying it out
and taking control of the algorithm.

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Do you agree with that? Yeah, flat Earth started, our algorithm changed,

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you know, I was there for
it. Flat Earth was. Flat

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Earth was the first thing they changed
the algorithms for. They changed like the

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way YouTube works, just to put
a little bit of a lid because,

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like I was saying, if that
continued to go on at the momentum it

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had and as fast as it was
going, well, it would be no

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telling where we would be right now, agreed. Now, according to your

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email, your journey started well before
flat Earth though, I mean you started

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you said you were interested. Excuse
me, you were first introduced to conspiracies

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just prior to nine to eleven,
so you had gone down a lot of

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these rabbit holes with other conspiracies prior
to coming on flat Earth. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's it's been quite of
a journey, and it's let me find

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the correct words, you know,
because it feels like my my awakening process

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has been guided you know, by
by God. That's that's exactly how it

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feels. You know. My first
running with conspiracies was when I was eighteen

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years old something like that, seventeen
or eighteen, and I was watching a

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Discovery Channel documentary and they were talking
about older buildings and stuff like that,

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and then they just briefly mentioned Freemasons, just very briefly, and I really,

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you know, it stuck with me
because because I was thinking, and

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I was you know, I grew
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and they they made it seem like
the Freemasons were you know, yeah,

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we're a religious bunch of people.
You know, they were like the Knights,

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templar and stuff like that. So
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piqued my interest is they just briefly
mentioned it and did not explain what

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Freemasons were. They just said the
word Freemasons and just continued on and like

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everyone was supposed to know what freemasons
are, and so I started to search

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on internet and I found because I've
searched for the term freemasons, and I've

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found this old, old repository of
yeah, of lectures, but they were

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all conspiracy lectures and I downloaded all
of them. And yeah, that's that's

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how it started, you know.
And I saw I saw lectures from Alex

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Jones, I saw you know,
I saw the Bohemian growthing. I saw

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Jordan Maxwell, Michael Terrion. I
don't know if you know that guy,

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Michael Terrio vaguely, sorry, vaguely. Yeah, he's this Irish Yeah,

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he's Irish guy. He's all into
symbols and symbolism and also into etymology and

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stuff like that. And Bill Cooper. Oh yeah, so yeah, it

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was it was a gold mine.
And you know, that set me off

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into uh, you know, a
whole new way of proceeding things. And

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I wouldn't say I was all awake
right then, I just you know,

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you should see it as I was
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narratives and alternative choices. So that
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my further waking up. And after
that I think nine eleven happened,

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and you know, I was I
was the kind of guy that watched CNN

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NonStop. I had CNN on NonStop
if I you know, if I was

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because I'm I work in it.
I've always been an IT guy. So

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I was always working on my computer
and I always had CNN on because I

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thought that, you know, I
wanted to be smart and I wanted to

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know what was going on all the
time. And I remember seeing, you

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know, the first tower was already
hit and there was smoke coming from it.

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And I saw it just in a
glance, and I thought, oh,

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this, this is some sort of
factory or something. Smoke coming from

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the you know, the chimney.
I didn't pay any mind to it,

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but then I started seeing it.
It was. It was on for very

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long, and then I looked better
and then I recognized it was a twin

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tower. So it stood up and
walked to the TV and I started a

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second plane, you know, going
into the second tower. And that's when

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I knew was what happened. And
I was like what, And I was,

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you know, all taken. I
was taken aback by what happened.

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In the Netherlands, there are a
lot of a lot of Muslim people,

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you know, you have a lot
of Moroccans, a lot of people from

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Turkey and what they were doing.
So after nine to eleven, they started

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this whole narrative of Muslims being bad. Yea. Yeah, so they made

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us all so afraid, George's it
was. But I wasn't awake enough to

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understand that back then, you know, And they made us so so afraid.

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And I remember being at home and
my mom, because I was living

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at my mom back then. She'd
ordered a package and just this guy,

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this guy came to deliver the package, and it was this guy with a

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beard, and he rang the doorbell. I opened the door and he stood

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there with his package, and I
was scared. I was like, what

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what is he? You know,
is it a bomb? So I was

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asking him, what's what's this?
What's in there? It was it was

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incredible, and he was like,
yeah, of course, I don't know

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what's in here. It's just a
package, man. And you know that's

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the power of the you know,
of the news at that day. You

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know, that's because I wasn't,
you know, awake enough to understand that

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there was a yeah, yeah,
a form of mic control, and yeah,

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it was a long process. After
that, I had little tidbits of

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information coming in, you know,
after nine to eleven, I uh,

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after you know, the initial shock
and all the things happening, the Iraqi

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invasion, I saw a loose change
somewhere. Yeah, and that, you

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know, it fits, It's just
fit with my world view. I understood

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exactly what was happening. Now.
I understood, you know, and yeah,

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sou and it's been a slow,
you know, slow awakening from there.

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Every every time, something else,
every time, just a little bit,

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you know, I got. I
understood more of about Satanism, you

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know, and about you know,
a lot of other things. But at

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the same time, I was also
getting more how do you say it,

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more religious. Back then, I
was more religious, and I realized that,

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you know, and I'm not saying
that's that's the way for everyone,

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because everyone should choose their own religion. But I started realizing that Catholic,

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the Catholic religion was not for me, you know, I thought, uh,

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you know, I felt more like
Protestant. So I became more like

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Protestant, you know, and I
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Protestant. And then I found out
more, you know, I found out

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even more. I found it out
about the Christian holidays being pagan, you

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know, like the Easter and Christmas, you know, and I took it

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very seriously, so I stopped celebrating
those, you know. And yeah,

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that's what. Yeah, a lot
of a lot of my friends in my

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family, they thought, you know, I was growing crazy. And it's

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a hard one to sell, George, is it can be divisive within the

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family too. Yeah, And I
didn't understand why they didn't understand it,

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because they were all very Christian,
you know. And but you know,

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I just kept on. I just
kept on believing what I believed. And

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yeah, every time I learned a
little bit more, and it was it

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was drip fed to me, you
know. And there there were so many

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rabbit holes to go through. And
then in two I think it was twenty

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sixteen, could be fifteen, but
I think it was sixteen sixteen. I

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saw on Facebook, I saw a
post, someone posted a meme and it

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was a bunch of fall falling stars
and then the tech said, if the

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Earth was a globe, why do
you never see stars falling up? And

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George, I got so angry I
got really pissed off because you know,

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I'd been, you know, if
a NASA fan fan boy for all my

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life. You know, I used
to want to be I used to want

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to be an astronaut. Yeah,
to be an astronaut. Right. I

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thought it was the most amazing thing
in the world, you know, And

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but I didn't realize what, you
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that time, you know, so
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I thought, how could somebody be
so stupid? They must be trolling or

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something, you know. And then
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comments as I always do, and
I I found that people really believed this,

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that the Earth was and it got
even angrier. So I set off

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right away. I was I was
like, I'm going to investigate this.

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I'm gonna put this to bed,
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it was really quick, I think
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it took about four or five hours. And I was like, oh my

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god, yeah, because as I
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That's one video to the next,
yeah, so and and and and all

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these dots connected and you know,
it had it had a fertile, fertile,

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fertile soil to land on, because
I was already hip to you know,

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secret societies and all those secret arrangements, you know, and nine to

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eleven, and you know, also
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I had stopped watching news and reading
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after way after nine to eleven,
because afterwards, I understood how I had

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been played, you know, by
by by all the news stations and by

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the newspapers, and I understood that
I was, you know, I was

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facilitating my own brainwashing. So like
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already stopped watching the news, I
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yeah, so I think I lost
my train of thought there. Well,

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that's all right, because I want
to bounce a few things off of you

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from all the notes I've taken.
And you mentioned Michael Serryan. I do

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remember he had that documentary from about
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So I was pretty good, Yeah, go ahead, yeah, okay,

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Loose Change was great. That was
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I think that came out two thousand
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and that that that's one that opened
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to eleven. I actually it'll be
on my other podcast. It'll actually come

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out September eleventh. I interviewed a
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was a fireman. He was on
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and you know, he mentioned kind
of the same things he remembered because

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he lived in New York obviously,
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forget is the way that the people
of Middle Eastern descent were treated. Yeah,

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so I was moving from Hanolup.
I was in the Army at the

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time, and I was moving from
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was changing duty stations. And it
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so it had been just five or
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we're in the airport and uh,
you know, there was some Muslims on

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our flight, and people were scared
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looking them up and down and like
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You understand what I'm saying. That
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that that SSI UP had on people. It was it was truly next level.

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that and being more awake, you
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understood that that was part of the
you know, the MK ultra, the

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Mockingbird media is and it's it's all
MK ultra. Yeah, and it was.

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It was horrible how how how they
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I heard some some stories about New
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to eleven, and I heard that
Muslims were shunned everywhere, you know,

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and stuff like that. People were
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it's it's it's crazy how how that
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You had also mentioned you said you're
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that mentioned the Freemasons. I'm really
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and they put it right in our
face, that people don't take the time

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to research. So my wife and
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went back and watched the old National
Treasure movie from two thousand and four,

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and the whole movie is about the
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telling us these things like these people
were really playing a bigger part of our

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history than than what is let on
and people just only see it for the

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action in the cinema. They don't
really see the you know, they don't

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peel back the layers of the onion
to really understand that they're putting it right

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in our face. Yeah, exactly, George. And they've never been hiding

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it. Maybe maybe in a way
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in the Netherlands, you know,
I've you know, I traveled, I

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don't want to say traveled. I
you know, I lived in a number

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of cities in the Netherlands, and
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was at least one Masonic lodge.
And they have you know, they they

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don't hide it because if you if
you see the Masonic lodge in a city

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where I live right now, it's
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a in the market when I when
we have the weekly market, it's right

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there, you know, and it's
in the building is all you know,

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it's this all style and then you
see the square and the compass and an

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eye in it. You know,
it's they just don't hide it. They

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just flaunted because they know that that
people, you know, they don't really

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care you know, and another when
I lived in another city. I was

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a couple of years ago, they
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were billboards come to the Masonic lodge. We're having a having an open night,

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and it just said there, you
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just come to the Masonic lodge and
learn about the Masons. You know,

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they were having a flyers being you
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in the streets and stuff like that. So you know, they're very open

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about it, and people just don't
care to investigate. Yeah, precisely.

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Another one for me was I think
I read the book I just had on

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the tip of my tongue, the
Da Vinci Code. I remember reading that

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book when I was one of my
deployments, and I'm thinking, there's there's

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a lot to this. They tried
to tell us something that's kind of went

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down the rabbit hole with the Vatican
and all that those connections, which has

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very very deep connections. A lot
of people believe that they have the actual

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belongings of the Alexandria Library in the
basic Vatican. Yeah, yeah, I

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could could be, could be man. Uh, you know that they have

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the Jesuits, you know, and
the Jesuits are basically the foundation of all

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those secret societies, you know,
and they are the gatekeepers of our realm,

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you know. And yeah, it's
it's it's funny to look back because

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you're talking about the Da Vinci Code. I remember I remember watching that and

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thinking, you know, oh,
could this all have a different meaning?

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You know? I was I felt
really, you know, enlightened, if

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I can use that word. After
watching that movie, I was like,

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oh, there's all these deep hidden
meanings. But of course it's not it's

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not even remotely true, you know
what they tell you there, So yeah,

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good stuff. Have you ever seen
the Jesuit oath? The oath they

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take? Have you ever seen that? Oh? Is that? Is that

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the one that they vowed to have
their tongue taken out? What if?

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You know it's creepy? Yeah,
yeah, because I might. You know,

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I'm I have read. I read
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so there's a lot of different ones. So you know, I don't

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know if you exactly remember what's in
there. Yeah, basically, they'll they'll

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do whatever it needs to to maintain
the mission, So use your imagination.

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Yeah, there's no exactly Yeah,
yeah, it doesn't differ from all the

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other you know, secret society oaths. It's it's the same they vowed to,

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you know, cut your head off
and you know, stuff like that

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and make sure that that you won't
enjoy life after you read at them out.

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Indeed, you know, it's very
fascinating to me. Are you aware

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aware or remember what happened been in
February with the East Palestine, Ohio with

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the train and the hazardous materials and
all that. So this is a town

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of forty five hundred and extremely I
don't like to use the term poor town,

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but it is certainly you know,
on the lower side of the economy

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economic you know what I'm saying,
yea, and they have it turns out

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they have this Masonic lodge there and
it is just a pristine I can't imagine

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how much they spent to build that
building in a town that is, you

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know, at best a blue collar, middle of the road town as far

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as the economy, right, you
know, the people who work hards auto,

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the earth, paycheck to paycheck type
of people in the middle of this

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town that just happened to have this
big train wreck where now over the last

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six months, everybody's selling in their
house for pennies on the dollar, kind

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of what you're seeing in Maui.
And it turns out that they have this

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Masonic building that is just this majestic
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It is really weird to see.
Well, Georgia, I could you

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could. I don't know if you
know about this before, just before that

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happened. I don't know if it
was a year or half a year.

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It was just a little while before
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There was a movie on Netflix and
it explained how toxic train crashed and they

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had to evacuate the town. And
I believe I'm not sure, but I

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believe it was also exactly in the
East Palistine. Yeah. Literally, people

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from the town were in the movie. It was called White Noise exactly.

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It was like six months before the
incident happened. Yeah. Yeah, I

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have a very interesting theory about that, George. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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gonna share it. So what most
people think, and this is a you

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know, common knowledge, is that
most people think that those uh, secret

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societies, they like to share what
they're gonna do, would you so this

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soft form of disclosure, So because
they have to tell the truth in some

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way or another. So they put
it in movies, and uh that's how

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you know, they knew about it
in advance. And I think you know

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that's partially through true. But what
we what people don't take an account that

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there's uh, there is a spiritual
you know, aspect to this. And

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have you ever heard of sigil?
Not off the top of my head,

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how do you spell that sigil?
It's s I G I L. Sigil

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is an inscribed or painted symbol considered
to have magical power. Okay, I

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know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, So and what what I

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think these uh, these predictions in
movies and stuff? What what it is?

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It's uh, it's a sigil.
It's a hypercigil because it's used in

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magic exactly, and it's it's a
form of magic because what happens is a

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lot of people watch this thing and
there's subconscience, you know, strengthens the

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sigil. And then I'm not saying
exactly that they make it happen, but

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they make it happen. And what
I'm what I'm saying with that is,

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let's say let's say you're gonna try
I'm just gonna use a crude example.

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Let's say you're going to try to
rob a bank. Yeah, but nobody

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knows you're robbing the bank, and
there's a certain amount of chance that you

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will get caught and go to jail. But what if what if like half

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a million or a million or even
two million, three million people believe or

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seeing you rob that bank and seeing
you get away with robbing that bank?

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How much would that, you know, make the chances greater for you to

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get away. That's a little bit
how this how I think, how I

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feel this reality works. You know, if if a lot of a large

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group of people put their mind to
something, even although being being up subconsciously,

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you can, you know, help
them create a situation and create an

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outcome that you would want to have
happened. That's what I what I believe.

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Yeah, I agree too. But
on top of that, which in

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addition to the sigil effect, if
you will, is with movies, it

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helps people accept when it happens.
Right, you had outbreak, you had

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contagion those movies, and you had
The Walking Dead, which is again with

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pathogens and viruses and flus. So
when twenty twenty came around, they were

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literally able to have the greatest wealth
transfer and have people close their churches over

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something that nobody can see. Yeah, think about how powerful that was.

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Yeah, exactly, because that's how
they in their in their mind, that's

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how it works. So they see
the worst case scenario happening if they don't

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comply. And uh, but there's
a there's there's a you know, there's

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a little bit of how do you
say that. You can't make impossible things

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happen. So it doesn't matter how
how big or great your sigil is.

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If it's impossible, like you're making
a movie about the Earth splitting in two

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or something like that. If it's
totally impossible, it's not going to happen.

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But if it has a probability,
then you increase the probability of it

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of it happening. You understand what
I'm saying. Yep, yep, absolutely.

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So that's how I really think these
things work. That's why you have

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the clip of Kobe Bryant, of
him crashing in a in an in an

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airplane or in a helicopter. I
don't know if you remember. That was

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a January of twenty twenty, right
before COVID happened. Yeah, so there

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was this clip of of of of
him as a cartoon character crashing in a

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helicopter. Yeah, the Simpsons are
renowned for these type of things. Uh

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yeah, yeah, But because I
think you know, it's a it's a

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it's a numbers game. Yes.
So let's say the probability of something like

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that happening is like forty percent against
you know, sixty percent, and then

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you bring out a sigil, and
then the probability increases from from forty percent

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to sixty percent, you know what
I mean? Yea, And yeah that's

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yeah, I really, you know, I really think that's the reason why

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they tell us things, you know, get everybody's mind on the same way,

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the same wavelength exactly. I know
you're a numbers guy too, And

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I know Zach Hubbard I think his
name is. He did pretty interesting breakdown

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on the whole Kobe. There's a
lot of people out there who think the

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Kobe Bryan incident was a ritual.
Yeah, it could be, could be.

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And what I believe, you know, it's with all these sports people,

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00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.799
especially when you're you know, in
the highest paid you know, brank

410
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:37.039
of these these sports people. You're
you're in the club, and the means

411
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:40.160
that they will use you for stuff
like that, especially when you when you

412
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:44.440
don't fall into rank, you know. Yeah, Tom Brady's part of that

413
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:51.319
club for sure. Yeah, because
I've seen he had a huge following and

414
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:55.119
then he did what did he do
again? I forgot, I forgot.

415
00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:00.839
People loved people really loved him.
And then something happened, and what did

416
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.839
he do? I know, him
and his wife. He broke up with

417
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:06.880
his wife. So he lost a
little bit of cloud for that, because

418
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:10.239
here you are married to a supermodel
with two children, and apparently that wasn't

419
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.280
good enough for him. But it's
you know what's interesting. You know we

420
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.480
talk about the elite athletes. What
do they call the elite athletes like the

421
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:23.000
Lebron James and the Michael Jordan.
They call him the goat And people aren't

422
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:28.480
really aware of the meaning of the
word goat itself. Yeah exactly. They

423
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.320
just think general, oh, greats
of all time, and they start using

424
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:36.400
that word themselves. You know that
people are really easily misled like that.

425
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:43.519
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So you you had about fifteen years

426
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.159
in the truth community looking at nine
to eleven, was there any other big

427
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:52.000
rabbit holes that you were passionate about? Other than nine to eleven before you

428
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.760
got to flat Earth, before he
got the flat Earth. I've seen this

429
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:05.840
documentary about It's called The Crowned Killers, and I've been looking for it ever

430
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:10.679
since and I just can't be I
can't seem to find it. And this

431
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:17.199
documentary was explaining, you know,
the bloodlines of all the royalty you know

432
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:24.480
here in Europe. And not only
that, it explained all the cruelties that

433
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:30.760
they made people undergo. You know, they were thirsty for blood. You

434
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:36.000
know, it was like no,
no, no king's reign or queen's reign

435
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.440
would go by without you know a
lot of blood being being you know,

436
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:45.880
uh spilled and in the most gruesome
cruel ways. You know, you can't

437
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:50.880
imagine the things that that that they
did to people in Europe, you know,

438
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.760
in the back in the day,
like when when you know, when

439
00:35:53.920 --> 00:36:02.400
when kings were actually the real rulers
of countries. And yeah, that's that's

440
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:08.280
one of the things that that made
me change, you know, the way

441
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:14.199
I looked at things. But it
was also I had this older colleague at

442
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:20.760
I had this job this uh when
I was I think it was twenty four,

443
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.599
twenty five something like that, and
I had this I t job and

444
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.960
it was this guy. Uh,
I never I will never forget this guy.

445
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:34.400
His name was Pablo. And I
was talking to him about you know,

446
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:37.719
a little bit conspiracy things not not, you know, I was,

447
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:43.039
I didn't go that deep. And
then he started telling me about Satanism.

448
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:52.360
And he started explaining to me how
I think back in the eighties, big

449
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:57.480
companies were you know, I caught
uh with Satanism, you know, and

450
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:02.599
I think he was talking about Procter
and Gamble. There's something going on with

451
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:08.079
Procter and Gamble and you could see
it in their logo, and he showed

452
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:14.960
me all kinds of things, you
know, and that was really an eye

453
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.000
opener because I, you know,
I've seen a lot of things about secret

454
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.840
societies and stuff like that, you
know, and but I never really laid

455
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:30.760
the connection with Satanism. And because
of that guy, Pablo, I just

456
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:35.239
laid the connection with Satanism. And
you know, that made me, you

457
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.519
know, get closer to God even
even more because of that, you know,

458
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.519
yeah, for sure, And that
that Procter and Gamble come they've been

459
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.880
around for two hundred years, so
I'm sure they have in order for being

460
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:51.280
the business that that long that they
got to have some type of I've never

461
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.159
taken the trip down for that company, but I know many many of the

462
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:58.599
companies who've been around that long are
either in the bloodlines like the DuPonts,

463
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.440
or they have some type of connections
to say the roth Childs or something like

464
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:06.719
that. Yeah, exactly, Now
I know, now, I know.

465
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.519
Yeah, there's there's no way that
company that large, that much money,

466
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:15.480
you know. Uh, And there's
there's no way there's no connections with with

467
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:22.760
Satanism. But I didn't know that
back then, so it was like a

468
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.039
virgin to that subject, you know. And absolutely, yeah, yeah,

469
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.840
we're not. We have a little
bit of naivety to us. We believe

470
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.079
everything wholesale, right, And then
the older we get and the more down

471
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:36.519
the rabbit holes that you go,
you learn that there's very little that is

472
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:40.519
organic in our world. Yeah,
exactly. And it scared me a little

473
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.559
bit, you know it really,
it really scared me because you have to

474
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.199
imagine all these all these little tidbits
of information. If you if you if

475
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.519
you know, if you believe it, if if you research it, they

476
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:58.440
all all of them, they change
your world view a little bit. And

477
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:07.079
that satan is some thing made me
really understand why there was evil in the

478
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.800
world, you know, I just
I don't know, something clicked. I

479
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:20.000
understood why why? Because before that
I would still be asking why. Okay,

480
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.280
so there are secret societies and they
plan to do things, you know,

481
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:27.880
and to control the world. But
I couldn't make sense of like senseless

482
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:34.840
killings and stuff like that, you
know, like wars and and yeah,

483
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.800
I mean I had a little bit
of information about that because then Michael Serbian

484
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:44.320
as well. He also explained how
when you're in the army and you wear

485
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:51.480
all those ingenious on your on your
you know, on your uniform, those

486
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:55.360
are those are also I switched to
Dutch there for a second, those are

487
00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:01.320
also sigils, you know. And
if you shed blood in in any form

488
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:07.159
of sigel, according to Michael Sarrion, you do it for a certain cause,

489
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.800
you know, and blood has a
profound, profound effect on you know,

490
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:17.480
any kind of magic or sacrifices that
you're trying to perform. So I

491
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.960
knew that, but I just didn't
connect that to actual Satanism, you know.

492
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:29.039
And and when that connection was made, yeah, that really changed a

493
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:35.360
lot. Yeah, indeed, and
even beyond the patches and things that we

494
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.280
wore. Every single unit were in
you had a motto, and the motto

495
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:44.360
was always in Latin. Even the
mill you know, the brains semperify,

496
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.239
right. Every unit in the military
has their own motto and it's always in

497
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:57.920
Latin. Yeah. Yeah, I
wonder why that is exactly. Yeah.

498
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:05.719
So, uh, and that was
all prior to to flat Earth, and

499
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:15.719
I think I think it all went
a little quicker after flat Earth. I

500
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:20.840
think you're probably yeah, yeah,
I'm sorry. No, I was just

501
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.920
gonna say, well, two things. Number One, you maybe would have

502
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.760
looked at flat Earth the same way
if you hadn't been down all those rabbit

503
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:34.519
holes. But once you accepted flat
Earth, you've realized that anything is possible.

504
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.039
So while the future rabbit holes were
easier for you to accept and to

505
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:44.000
look into. Yeah, exactly,
that's that's uh, that's part of it.

506
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:51.559
But it also what I think,
and because I was telling you earlier

507
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:58.639
that the awakening process that I went
went through it felt scripted, you know,

508
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:05.480
it felt like I learned what I
learned when I was ready to receive

509
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:09.920
it. Because that's really and it's
really hard to explain, but it has

510
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:15.000
so many layers and for me to
go back and peel back every layers.

511
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.400
It's really hard to explain, but
I can only tell you how it felt

512
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.760
in hindsight, especially in hindsight,
because then you understand, Oh, if

513
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:27.800
I didn't know this, I wouldn't
research that. If I didn't do that,

514
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:37.599
I wouldn't do that. And there
were also offline moments of awakening because

515
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:43.840
I got closer to God. I
was reading the Bible, I was every

516
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.639
night, I was listening to sermons
in bed, and I, you know,

517
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:55.760
I it was it wasn't really a
personal experience for me, so and

518
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:59.920
I felt it was scripted, and
it got me closer. And every time

519
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.760
time I got closer because you always, I always ask questions, and and

520
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:09.679
uh, you know, I asked
God questions and then I get answers,

521
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:17.280
and sometimes the answers are not what
I expect them to be. But yeah,

522
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:22.599
I think I needed this, uh
this slow slow cooking. You know,

523
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.920
if I had all this information at
once, I would have never accepted

524
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:35.800
it. And yeah, I would
have just rejected right away. And and

525
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:38.880
another aspect is, uh, you
know we were talking about that time,

526
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.719
how YouTube was, how the algorithm
was, and how how how it was

527
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:51.480
easier to research stuff or to get
information that might interest you. That had

528
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.920
a lot to do with with all
the things that I learned after flat Earth.

529
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.440
And also my wife, she was
very uh. I had you know,

530
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:06.199
I had to I have the best
wife for this situation because when I

531
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.960
when I realized the truth about about
you know, the shape of our of

532
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:20.960
our realm, I went to her
and I was really ashamed. I went

533
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.880
to her and I was like,
yeah, you know, I believe that

534
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:29.960
that the Earth is flat. And
I thought she was gonna. I thought

535
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.559
she was gonna, you know,
she was gonna think I was I was

536
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:37.519
crazy, but I just had to
share it. But she just she was

537
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.320
okay, really and then she's like, yeah, show me, And I

538
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.119
showed her, showed her what I
you know, the video said I watched

539
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:46.280
and then she was, you know, hook linen and sink her. She

540
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:52.719
just went, she just did a
deep dive. And then after that she

541
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:59.320
came and showed me conspiracies that I
didn't know about. Really yeah, so

542
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.800
it was you know, it was
it when you know, she she helped

543
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:08.639
me realize some things, you know, and sometimes she brought me this so

544
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.840
there's this I don't know, if
you heard this conspiracy, have you heard

545
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:23.639
of the how did they call that? The transvestigations? Transvestigations not not that

546
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:28.800
I recall. Yeah, they had
like a couple of names for that.

547
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.119
It was the same time that YouTube
was you know, the algorithm was open.

548
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:37.199
They weren't throwing off a lot of
people. But all those people of

549
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:45.119
transvestigations that did those videos you could
find it under the name transvestigation or transgender.

550
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:53.280
So and what the conspiracy basically is
is that a lot of like the

551
00:45:53.760 --> 00:46:00.400
Hollywood women are actually men, are
actually men. Yes, the girl who

552
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:05.599
played in Murder by numbers. So
basically the thing is they're like, look

553
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.880
for the Adams Apple right exactly,
and not only the Adams Apple, because

554
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:15.960
you know there are some some females
have an have a bigger Adams Apple than

555
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:20.639
other female. So there was there
was like this trick to it, and

556
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:24.039
it was you had to look at
multiple things. So you have to look

557
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:32.039
at the length of the fingers because
I believe for a woman the index finger

558
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:38.599
is longer than a middle finger or
something like that. But if a woman,

559
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:43.320
because but if a woman only has
a middle finger that's longer than a

560
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.960
than or an index finger that's longer
than her middle finger doesn't mean she's a

561
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.559
man right away. So you have
to look at multiple things. You have

562
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.000
to look at the hands, you
have to look at Adams apple, you

563
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:58.199
have to look at where the height
of the waist. That's a dead giveaway

564
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:07.119
as well. And also I think
uh female most of the times, UH

565
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.920
can only fit on her shoulders.
If you would, you know, measure

566
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:15.400
it. Uh, she could only
fit like uh next to next to her

567
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.079
head a half ahead and another half
a head to it to the other side

568
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.519
of the head. And for men, it's it's a larger area, a

569
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:24.440
larger service area. So you could, you know, just measure it by

570
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:30.320
looking at pictures. You know,
there's a there's a couple there's a couple

571
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:37.320
of those uh, you know giveaways
that you you have to combine them because

572
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:39.840
just one doesn't mean that you know, that's that that it's a man.

573
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:46.920
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And
there so there's there's a couple of those

574
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:52.519
things. But when she came,
when she brought me that conspiracy, I

575
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.440
you know, I didn't give her
the same courtesy as she gave me with

576
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:06.119
flat earth because I thought it was
ridiculous you know, and and uh,

577
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.280
you know, and she was like, no, look at this, come

578
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:14.000
on, look look and you know, and okay, I was thought,

579
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:15.840
you know, okay, let's go
all right. I want to I want

580
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.920
to look into this. And then
I started looking into this and then you

581
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.599
know, I saw it. I
saw it more and more and then yeah,

582
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:29.519
once you start seeing it, it's
really hard to unsee. And it's

583
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:32.880
not all women, you know,
it's not all of them, but there's

584
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:40.000
there's a couple. There's a couple
that are very suspicious. Yeah, I

585
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.840
know exactly what we're talking about.
I didn't realize it actually had a name

586
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.960
to it because I've seen people on
social media that's like all they do.

587
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:52.480
Megan Fox is a big one they
talk about and share, which, to

588
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:57.960
be honest, in hindsight, that's
not a super stretch. And some people,

589
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:02.000
I think people have mentioned Madonna and
Annie Lennox, the big pop star

590
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:06.239
from the eighties. I just didn't
know it actually had a name to it.

591
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.440
I know now, yeah, because
you know what they scrubbed it.

592
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:15.199
They scrubbed it from internet. It
was you know, yeah, yeah,

593
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.519
because it was all over if you
if you if you typed it in YouTube,

594
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.800
you got so many good videos.
Good and it started for me.

595
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.559
It started in Russia, I think, because there were there was this Russian

596
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:34.039
lady that was taking it apart,
but really like scientifically, you know,

597
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:39.239
it was I don't know, they
did it in a way that you really

598
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:51.119
understood. Because when when when let's
say, an archaeology archaeologist finds a couple

599
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:54.519
of bones in a grave, they
can always tell which one was a woman

600
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:59.719
and which one wasn't man by the
hips normally, right, yeah, by

601
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:05.000
by everything. Yeah, because the
skeleton of a man is different than a

602
00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:09.840
skeleton of a woman. Yeah,
exactly. So. And that Russian lady,

603
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:14.880
she she she really went about it
in a scientific way, you know.

604
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.519
So yeah, you couldn't escape it, man, it was no escaping

605
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:24.840
nuked. Yeah, yeah, I
got nuked real quick. Now, not

606
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:30.159
really quick. They had. They
had quite a run because there were a

607
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.800
lot of channels popping up and then
they started you know, censoring it like

608
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:37.960
they would remove everything, you know, and then some some of those guys,

609
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:43.039
you know, they made a new
channel, but really quickly they removed

610
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.320
it again. So there's a lot
of information that got lost because these people

611
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:50.920
were digging up all kinds of pictures
that that's you know, you can't dig

612
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.800
up right now, and you know, the pictures of people in their bathing

613
00:50:53.840 --> 00:51:00.639
suits and pictures that have been scrubbed
from the Internet. But yeah, and

614
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:07.000
some of my some of the maybe
also your altime favorites could be implicated,

615
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:13.639
you know what I mean. And
there were there was Cameron Diaz, yes,

616
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:21.360
you remember. So when I saw
it, like the title, I

617
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.519
was like, Noah, get out
of here, you know. But then

618
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:27.840
they were showing the pictures and breaking
it down and I was like, oh

619
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:32.840
my god, it's true, you
know, it's it's really all it's Yes,

620
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.480
it was. Yeah, that was
a Yeah, that was a really

621
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:43.000
a strange conspiracy to go through.
Man. I hope I hope some of

622
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.519
it because I think, you know, people save stuff on mine you might

623
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:52.119
be able to find something about these
things. But what I've seen now it

624
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.719
doesn't compare. I doesn't hold a
candle to how how good those uh,

625
00:51:54.840 --> 00:52:00.320
those transvestigations used to be. That's
interesting. Now did they ever say what

626
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:05.679
was the reasoning behind it? I
mean, I know with the Luciferians that

627
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:10.559
everything is inverted, so it would
actually have that type of meaning behind spiritual

628
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:15.320
meaning behind it. But was there
other meetings for them to do this?

629
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.800
Why would you know, why would
they change the gender or hide the gender

630
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:23.559
of someone and have them, you
know, play as a woman. Yeah,

631
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:27.519
and it's good. That's a good
question. And at the time,

632
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.960
at the time, we were and
I mind you uh, you know,

633
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:38.559
the trans agenda that they're pushing right
now to kids and stuff like that,

634
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:44.840
it wasn't as big then. And
it was I'm talking about a couple of

635
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:49.519
years ago. Man, it was
twenty seventeen, maybe eighteen ish. You

636
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.599
know, you had some transgender stuff
popping up they you know, but it

637
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.239
wasn't as prevalent as it is right
now. You're seeing it everywhere, all

638
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:06.480
those transgender flags. So yeah,
and uh when when this what was going

639
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.440
on, you know, with the
transvestigations. I used to think And that's

640
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:15.360
also what I think most people believe
that if if they make all those stars

641
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:19.920
you look at every day, you
know in movies, if they give the

642
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:23.639
females, if they give the male
features, and if they give the males

643
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:34.679
female features, because we are you
know, we are we are used to

644
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.320
think if if if a person has
long hair and makeup on and address,

645
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.079
it's a woman, and if it's
dressed like a man, it's a man.

646
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:49.480
So but are subconscious knows the difference. So what the going theory was

647
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:53.519
back then is that they were trying
to make everybody gay. Basically that was

648
00:53:53.559 --> 00:54:00.360
the theory. And yeah, in
a sense, there was all so this

649
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:07.679
this dark baffle maat uh yeah aspect
to it. But in hindsight now,

650
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:15.639
with all those things going on with
the transgender movement that they're pushing to kids,

651
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:20.679
put that, it puts that in
in a whole different perspective. It

652
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:27.079
does They wanted They were probably hoping
that by pushing this, we would subconsciously

653
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:34.280
maybe accept the transgenderism push a little
more. Yeah, it could be.

654
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.159
It could Yeah, it might as
well be something like that, because you

655
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.400
know, we didn't know back then
that the push was going to go uh

656
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:46.159
this far, that's going crazy.
Yeah, yeah, do you see that

657
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:52.920
in the Netherlands like we see it
over here. The Netherlands is one of

658
00:54:52.920 --> 00:55:00.480
the countries where this all started.
So I believe that we have the first

659
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:07.000
doctors that actually really performed these kind
of operations. Really, so I think

660
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.760
it's yeah, it's here in Europe, in the Netherlands, and also I

661
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:15.199
think Denmark or Sweden something like that
as well. But yeah, yeah,

662
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:19.679
on zero is here, that's interesting. Yeah. I know a guy during

663
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.840
the Weimar republican in Germany in nineteen
twenty five. I think his name was

664
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:27.800
Sigmund Hirsch. I know he performed
one of the first surgeries there that was

665
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:29.880
like a hundred years ago, and
I was shocked when I saw that.

666
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:32.280
I thought this was something that had
come about in the last thirty forty years.

667
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.719
But now it's been around for a
long long time. Yeah, it's

668
00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.880
been around for a long time,
but the Netherlands had a major hand in

669
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:44.400
making it a little bit mainstream,
you know. That's interesting and normalizing it.

670
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:50.000
Yeah. Yeah, and again after
flat Earth, maybe you know things

671
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:53.199
that you might have laughed off or
not even taking the time to look into,

672
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:58.599
you feel inclined to because you remember, well, you know, I

673
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:00.199
believe this, and I remember how
hard it was to look into this.

674
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:06.760
So who knows. So it is
interesting how everybody's awakening process happens for a

675
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:10.760
reason. Yeah. Yeah, And
I'll tell you something, George. Even

676
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:15.920
if you let's say you get introduced
to flat Earth, Let's say it takes

677
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.920
a day. It takes two days
for you to believe it. You have

678
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:25.719
to still incorporate it in your being, if that makes any sense. It

679
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:31.000
takes a while for your for you
to completely soak up what what that means

680
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:39.360
exactly. Uh and and and yeah
for the because you can know something,

681
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:47.599
but to intimately understand it, and
intimately understanding it means that you you compare

682
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:52.320
it to everything that you that that
you encountered in a day to day life.

683
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:57.519
So for me, you know,
I understood that back in twenty sixteen,

684
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:02.039
fifteen, but it had an incubation
period for until like a couple of

685
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:09.079
months ago when I started, you
know, listening to your podcast because I

686
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:14.840
knew it, but I didn't research
it actively. And then I came across

687
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:22.719
your podcast and then I understood how
everything I've learned back then fits into my

688
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:29.199
reality right now. And it might
be a little bit, uh, you

689
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:31.679
know, hard to understand, but
that's it's really how I see it.

690
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:36.760
What was it? Did it maybe
permeate a little bit because you didn't have

691
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.320
and I can understand this from my
aspect as well. There's not a whole

692
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:44.960
lot of people to talk about about
it, No, you know, you

693
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:47.239
know what the thing is, George. I had my wife, That's the

694
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:51.679
number one person I talked about.
I talked to everything about and I share

695
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:54.039
everything with her, and yeah,
we were both on this, you know,

696
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:58.239
this rabbit hole we went on,
you know, I went on a

697
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:02.920
quest for for the conspiracies, you
know. So that was it wasn't something

698
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.239
that I didn't talk about. And
I had one really good friend that I

699
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:12.199
showed it to and he took to
it immediately. First he was, you

700
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.039
know, he thought I was crazy. But because he knows me and he

701
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:20.480
knows I'm not a crazy person,
I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't mislead

702
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.320
him or anything. I just asked
him please look into this. And then

703
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:27.480
like the day after that or two
days after that, he called me back.

704
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.960
He's like, why you know what, You're right? Yeah, that's

705
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:37.400
one friend, and yeah, so
it's true. I couldn't talk to any

706
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:39.639
to everyone about it. But I
didn't know that in the beginning. So

707
00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:44.599
I tried, you know, and
I pushed a couple of people away.

708
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:50.679
Because you will find out even though
you have been a sane person all your

709
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:54.519
life and people know you as an
intelligent person, as a rational person,

710
00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:01.400
when faced with with the truth of
what you believe in, and when you

711
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:06.800
tell them you believe in flat earth, they immediately they write you off.

712
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:13.840
So I had to go through,
sadly through a couple of instances of that

713
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:19.079
happening, and me also losing you
know, faith in a couple of people

714
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.519
because you know, okay, you
don't have to believe it right away,

715
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:28.800
but you know me and I wouldn't
you know, I wouldn't say anything wrong,

716
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:31.679
but yeah, some people just they
they're they're programming is so strong.

717
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:38.360
So yeah, those people wrote me
off right away, and I have no

718
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:42.760
contact with them at the moment.
So yeah, yeah, And I think

719
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.119
there's a lot of people listening to
this right now that can that understand what

720
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.960
you're saying. There's a lot of
you know, friendships, not just necessarily

721
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.400
flat earth, certainly that's a big
part of it. But for me,

722
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:58.159
a lot of guys I served with, you know, I'm searching for the

723
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:01.119
truth about nine to eleven, and
they think in some way it's disgracing,

724
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:05.639
you know, the soldiers that gave
their life, and I'm I try to

725
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.960
reason with them to tell them that
there's the truth and then there's everything else.

726
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:12.639
Do you want the truth or do
you just want to conveniently packaged up

727
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.360
and you want to you know,
they'll sit and talk all day about how

728
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:19.760
corrupt the government is. At the
same time, Uh, they don't want

729
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:23.199
to challenge the nine eleven, the
nine to eleven narrative, and they believe

730
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:30.320
heliocentrism. You know, this spinning
that hurtling at this speed, the ISS

731
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:34.880
eighteen thousand miles. I mean,
just the whole thing is is silly.

732
01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:39.360
Yeah, George, It's it's amazing
how that works. It's amazing. I

733
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:45.719
gotta give them a little bit of
credit for the MK Ultra brainwashing. Uh.

734
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:49.599
You know, they really they really
got this down to a team,

735
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:54.880
and they really know how to do
that. And you know, you've seen

736
01:00:54.960 --> 01:01:00.239
it with the whole uh in the
last couple of years, with the whole

737
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:12.000
virus thing. So yeah, people
are very they're they're used to being in

738
01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:17.800
their comfort zone and as soon as
you challenge their comfort zone or dare to

739
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:22.519
take them out of their comfort zone, they you know, they just rejected.

740
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:27.559
And that's why they're Also there were
so so many people that were compliant

741
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:35.599
because there was this looming threat of
UH. So, first of all,

742
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.960
you have to throw away your beliefs
that the government you know, has has

743
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:44.960
the best intentions with you. That's
that's getting out of your comfort zone.

744
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:51.480
And and and then you have to
risk your job, you know, for

745
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:58.159
not taking any you know, any
of the prescribed medicine, you know.

746
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:04.079
And yeah, yeah, that was
an easy choice for people, you know,

747
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:08.320
and I And for me it's like
what For me, it's the more

748
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:13.519
you push it, the more resistant
I get, you know, and uh

749
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:15.599
yeah, but not for them.
That's the you know, that's the most

750
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:22.239
comfortable, comfortable decision to make.
I'll tell you. And I'm sorry,

751
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:23.000
go ahead, finish up. I'm
sorry. No, No, you're good.

752
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.000
You're good man, You're good.
I was just going to say that

753
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:30.519
there's a lot of people out there
who say they're not gonna fullest again.

754
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:36.480
But I'll tell you I've seen people's
convictions and that everybody has their limits,

755
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:38.679
and there will be a lot of
people and they're starting it now. I

756
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:43.280
don't know if you saw the news, but that the President's wife came down

757
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:45.719
with COVID, so you know,
it's right around the corner. There's news

758
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:50.880
clips from the big show here in
America called the view Wood be So now

759
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.519
they're starting to pull out the famous
actors and actresses and all the big names

760
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:58.519
are getting COVID again. So it's
like we're replaying this all over again.

761
01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:00.440
And there's a lot of people out
there saying that the next time that they

762
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:05.079
play this card, it's going to
be a lot more difficult, like literal

763
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:12.159
job or JAB digital currencies to control
you. Yeah, yeah, I think

764
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:19.559
I you know, I think they
lost the element of surprise because there was

765
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:25.280
a certain amount of people that initially
went all all in, and then after

766
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:35.239
a while they started backtracking, you
know, and and started realizing but and

767
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:38.280
and and there are also people that
actually thought, oh no, this is

768
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:45.480
bullshit after their second you know,
after their second JAB. But trust me,

769
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:49.519
George, I know a lot of
people that are going to fall for

770
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:55.519
the same thing, and they're going
to switch their their anger because it should

771
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:59.639
be focused to the people doing this
to them. And first they're going to

772
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:04.360
switch to COVID. Damn COVID,
you know, not again. COVID ruins

773
01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:12.679
every time exactly, and then they're
gonna slowly switch it to the people that

774
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.880
that haven't you know, gotten to
JAB. You're gonna that's the same thing

775
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:21.599
that they did before, you know. And yeah, I'm afraid that a

776
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:26.719
lot of people are gonna buy it, George. You know, I have

777
01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:32.639
faith in humanity, but I don't
have faith in the large groups of people.

778
01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:36.719
You know. I'm sorry, I
just I just seen it. You

779
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:42.480
know, I've seen it with my
own eyes. Man, people walking into

780
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:47.639
a restaurant with their mask on,
sitting down and then take their mask off,

781
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:56.519
like that changes anything. You know
what when you sit now, you

782
01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:58.559
can take your masks off, but
when you walk in, you have to

783
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:00.480
you have to put your mask on, and they'll put you know, the

784
01:05:01.760 --> 01:05:05.800
waiters in the in the restaurants will
be like, put your mask. Yes,

785
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:12.039
everybody took power, right. It's
so weird, man. And and

786
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:16.360
even to this day, they have
these, uh these plexiglass when you say

787
01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:21.719
that, these covers in front of
the cash register in supermarkets and stuff like

788
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:26.719
that. So they didn't you didn't
even didn't even bother to take that down

789
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:31.599
because they are expecting I think,
you know, it to happen again.

790
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:35.239
Yeah, people wouldn't even greet their
delivery men and they just yell out through

791
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.400
the one just just leave it in
front of the door. I'll get it,

792
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.960
like these people were. Oh,
it's ridiculous. When you think back,

793
01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:44.119
if you're in the store and you
sneezed, everybody hit the ground like

794
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:49.199
a grenade went off. What George
and and I have? How you call

795
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:53.519
it an English hay fever? Yes, so you sneezed all the time.

796
01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:58.719
Yeah, And I and I go
to a work. I used the public

797
01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:02.039
transports. I used the train.
That's a very common public transport in the

798
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:05.679
Netherlands. So for people that don't
know, a Nelands is a very small

799
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:14.119
country. So my I work a
couple of towns over and uh it's I

800
01:06:14.159 --> 01:06:18.800
think forty five minutes with the train
and a couple of towns over in the

801
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:24.360
in the US would be I think
four to eight hours. I'm not sure.

802
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:28.480
I'm not sure, but I know
there's a big difference in you know,

803
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:34.480
in sizes. So so I went, I go to work with public

804
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:43.599
transport. And the thing is the
hay fever. It you know, I

805
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:48.079
it happens when you're in in in
a confined spaces. So when I'm outside

806
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:51.679
walking, you know, I don't
have you know, there's nothing going on.

807
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:58.320
But when when I get into the
train, I start sneezing and people

808
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:00.599
were giving me, oh, there
were giving me the evil eyemen. They

809
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:06.760
could kill me. And I even
had people standing up from from from close

810
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:11.440
to me and go sit elsewhere,
just because I was sneezing, you know.

811
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:17.360
And and I have to tell you
this, George, because they they

812
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:23.519
made it mandatory to wear a mask
in the train. And I think it

813
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:28.480
was the first because I didn't go
to work every day. I went like

814
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:32.079
once. I had to go in
like once a week. And I think

815
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:38.320
it was the first four times something
like that that I got on the train

816
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:41.480
because I knew, you know,
I didn't believe it from the bat,

817
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:48.119
like day one, I didn't believe
it. So but you know, I

818
01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:55.400
felt like complying because of peer pressure. So like the first four four times

819
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:59.719
I went to public transport, I
put the mask on. But then I

820
01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:05.039
got because I am a defying person. That's just my uh, it's just

821
01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:10.880
my characters, bill stick to your
guns. And like four like after the

822
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:15.720
fourth time, I was like no, no, I refuse, I refuse,

823
01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:18.439
and then I stopped wearing it.
And I have to tell you this.

824
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:25.760
It took a lot of courage because
everyone was wearing a mask George,

825
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:31.039
everyone and everyone was looking at me
like is he not going to wear a

826
01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:35.319
mask? And you know, yeah. So it took me, like I

827
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:41.159
think it was a week or something
to get used to that feeling, you

828
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:44.399
know, to going against the grain, you know, not fitting in and

829
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:48.039
stuff like that. But I just
had to do it, George, I

830
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:53.800
had to take a stand and I
did it. And no, and like

831
01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:59.720
the train conductors that check if you
are if you have a valid train ticket,

832
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.279
like that entire period, they didn't
check. They just walked past you.

833
01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:09.800
They were afraid to you get in
area right exactly, and no one

834
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:15.279
said anything to me, you know. So yeah, I got away with

835
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:18.680
it. You know, I felt
good. Yeah I did. And I

836
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:21.279
was the same way. And I
noticed two types. I got two types

837
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:25.720
of looks from people. I got
the evil looks and you know, the

838
01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:29.239
Walmart employees that would come up and
say, you know, sir, you

839
01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:30.680
need to be wearing a mask and
observed the city. You know, they'd

840
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:34.840
lay down their little rules because they
were empowered. But there was also people

841
01:09:35.239 --> 01:09:38.720
that would kind of even if they
were wearing a mask, they would give

842
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:42.760
you a little nod like thank you. You know, your people appreciated the

843
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:47.600
courage of the other people who were
abstaining from what was going on exactly.

844
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:55.239
And it was like also because I
had for my for my for my job,

845
01:09:55.279 --> 01:10:01.439
I had to sometimes meet with different
people from different companies and then you

846
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:06.800
would know if that person knew because
they would offer to give you a hand,

847
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:11.880
and I would be yeah, by
all means nice, you know,

848
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:17.359
because everyone was scared to give hands. And and then sometimes there was this

849
01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:21.840
person's like, uh, do you
shake hands? And yes, I shake

850
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:27.239
hands, Let's go, And it
felt really refreshing. And also, you

851
01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:30.039
know, in the supermarket and stuff
like that, I would never I would

852
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:33.439
not wear a mask, and you
know, because I was thinking, I

853
01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:36.880
don't work for you guys. You
know, I'm a customer. You can't

854
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:40.920
make me wear something that I don't
want to wear. I'm not gonna wear

855
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.239
it. You know, I'm not
gonna wear you because I view it as

856
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:46.880
a uniform. That's a mask,
It's it's a uniform. Can't you can't

857
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:50.640
make me wear a uniform? I
did, okay, And so where I

858
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:56.880
where I drew the line was at
at work because there were some spaces,

859
01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:01.239
uh, public spaces if you went
there at my job. They wanted you

860
01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:05.840
to wear a mask, and you
know I did that because they pay me

861
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:10.680
right right right, So I was
like, yeah, okay, you pay

862
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.560
me, and as long as I
don't have to wear this thing all day.

863
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:15.359
So if I was in my office
or you know, I didn't have

864
01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:17.479
to wear it, I didn't have
to wear it. But if I it

865
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:21.600
was passing through the public space there, I had to wear it for a

866
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:29.720
second. So yeah, that's that's
the only place I complied. Good stuff.

867
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:32.640
By the way, I think I
send a little message to somebody who's

868
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.560
good at research. They found a
documentary called The Crown Killers the Illuminati.

869
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:41.119
It's about fifteen minutes. I sent
you the link. If that's it,

870
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:45.000
let me know and I'll include it
in the show description for people to check

871
01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:46.359
out. It was kind of hitting. It looks like it was hitting on

872
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:49.720
YouTube and a playlist. That's what
people do now, they'll hide it within

873
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:53.920
playlists. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be awesome.

874
01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:56.680
If that's it, that would be
awesome because it was a really good one.

875
01:11:56.720 --> 01:12:02.800
You know it really because we don't
I think we know these things because

876
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:08.359
sometimes you learn, you know that
they had torture methods and stuff like that

877
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:12.399
back in the you know, the
dark ages for the lack of a better

878
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:17.760
term, But you don't know how
prevalent it was, and and and you

879
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:25.159
don't understand why they had this need
to torture people and these these different ways,

880
01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:28.239
you know for sure. So yeah, yeah, that's a good one,

881
01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:31.239
man. Thanks, And I think
that that without even getting into the

882
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:34.840
subjects we got about twelve minutes left. But that does have ties to like

883
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:41.880
what happened with pizza gay right exactly. Yeah, Pizza gate was another one.

884
01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:43.840
It was another one. There was
there was a hard that was the

885
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:48.520
worst one. Actually think about it, because that really got to me.

886
01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:53.880
And it really really got to me, you know, at at a point

887
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:59.039
that I got depressed and I was
like, yeah, why, you know,

888
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:04.800
asking God, why are you letting
this happen? You know? And

889
01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:12.439
it really because I have children,
you know, And yes, it was

890
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:17.439
horrible and and and like I was
saying earlier, if you have you if

891
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:23.920
you have all those little bits of
information background information about other things that they

892
01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:30.439
they the elites like to indulge in, this just fits. It fits,

893
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:40.319
and it's horrible and it's so bad
because if have you ever heard of Mark

894
01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:45.439
do true. Yeah, he's a
documentary guy too, right. No,

895
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:49.000
no, no, no, I
think you're you're you're you're talking about somebody

896
01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:51.319
else. I think I know what
you're talking about. I can't remember the

897
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:55.680
name right now, but I'll let
you know. Mark through It's a guy

898
01:13:55.760 --> 01:14:03.199
that got arrested. I think it
was somewhere in the nineties, and he

899
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:10.039
was arrested because he was a pedo
foule and he had little girls tied up

900
01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:14.399
in his basement. They found little
girls tied up in his basement, and

901
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:18.000
it was it was horrible. It
was horrible. It was a horrible story.

902
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:27.399
And but the media because only only
like I think last month of the

903
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.119
month, the month before that,
I found out the real story. The

904
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:33.600
media only showed him and he was
you know, he was the bad guy

905
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:39.520
and that's it. You should all
hate him. And it was in Belgium.

906
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:45.560
There's a country club next to next
to the Netherlands. But everyone knew

907
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.960
about this guy. And because he
got caught, you know, he got

908
01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:57.279
a trial and he went to jail. But just recently I learned that there

909
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:05.760
was a big protest in Belgium because
this guy, Mark du True. He

910
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:11.840
he opened up about why he was
doing what he was doing. He was

911
01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:15.560
supposedly a very poor guy. He
had no money, but still he had

912
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:19.520
like ten houses, you know,
ten big houses. And yeah, and

913
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:25.880
he was you know, he was
spilling the beans about how he was doing

914
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:34.960
this for the elite group of people. And that's right. This was the

915
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:40.159
big story before Pizza Gate. This
this came out on wiki leagues and then

916
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:45.000
the elite snuffed it out real quick. Exactly right, this is the story.

917
01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:49.800
Yes, but it was the fall
guy then, right, No,

918
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:53.800
not so much the fall guy.
He just he messed up and he and

919
01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:58.600
he got caught. And but what
happened is he opened up and he wanted

920
01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:00.720
to, you know, because he
wanted to. He didn't want to carry

921
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:06.119
I think I think sometimes these people
they have a sort of they feel burdened,

922
01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:14.960
uh, and that's when they get
they and I don't say this lightly,

923
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:19.319
but that's when they get taken out
of the situation they're in and they

924
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:24.880
get put like in a prison,
and they get time to reflect on what

925
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:28.960
they're actually doing. You know,
I'm not you know, I don't I'm

926
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.079
not saying he's a good guy.
I'm not saying he's a good guy.

927
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:35.399
But you know, I think that
that has to do it a little bit.

928
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:39.880
That has something to do with it. And then they just open up

929
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:44.720
about what he was doing. Either
that or it was so normal for him

930
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.800
that he just spoke about it openly, one of the two. But yeah,

931
01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:54.319
he was just he was you know, he was spilling the beans.

932
01:16:54.439 --> 01:17:01.520
And then victims came forward and they
corroborate, like everything he said, everything

933
01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:06.039
to the people involved. They could
like, uh, you know, they

934
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:13.079
could tell people how their houses looked
from the inside exactly to you know,

935
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:16.920
to the rugs and paintings on the
walls, stuff like that. Things intimate

936
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:21.840
details that you wouldn't know if you
you know, if you haven't been somewhere.

937
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:29.119
And yeah, it was crazy and
it got shut down in so many

938
01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:32.159
ways. Like the judge that was
presiding, he was a good judge because

939
01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:36.960
he was gonna he was gonna get
it all out. The judge got replaced

940
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:43.760
by another one which had ties,
you know, ties with the people involved,

941
01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:50.520
and it was horrible. It was
like it was a perfect showcase of

942
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:55.439
their power. Well sure, like
there's nothing you can do, No,

943
01:17:55.680 --> 01:18:00.560
there's nothing you can do. They
killed twenty witnesses, twenty and exactly.

944
01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:03.760
It was like car accidents. His
corpse was never found. Suicide, you

945
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:09.079
know, suicide, many suicides,
and then just people connected with the case,

946
01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:14.720
the policeman. Just the list is
incredible. This is so much like

947
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:19.840
the Clintons were involved. It's horrible, George, and and and and you

948
01:18:19.880 --> 01:18:24.399
want to know the most horrible thing
of all. So this was common knowledge

949
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:30.680
in Belgium. There was a big
protest in Belgium when this was happening because

950
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:33.399
they were like, what is happening
here? You know, they saw,

951
01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:40.039
they saw what was happening. But
uh, you know, Internet wasn't as

952
01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:43.880
you know, as widely used as
it is right now. I mean we

953
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:46.880
had internet, but you know,
it wasn't. It wasn't like it is

954
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:55.960
right now. Did you know that
I knew nothing of anything that happened until

955
01:18:56.239 --> 01:19:00.239
months ago when I started researching it. There was nothing on the new was

956
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:02.880
here, nothing, George. It
was like complete you know, crickets.

957
01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:09.880
And I bet and I know that
people I know don't know about it.

958
01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:13.199
You know, I know I can
just walk to the cur to any person

959
01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:15.359
in the street, anyone, George, like anyone in the street, like

960
01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:19.840
the above, a certain age above, Like I think above thirty and I

961
01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:23.880
can ask them do you know who
Mark the truis? And they will tell

962
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.119
you exactly who he is. But
if I ask him do you know what

963
01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:32.119
happened? They don't know nothing,
because you know, there was complete media

964
01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:38.560
silence about that. That's horrible.
Yeah. In Belgium, a lot of

965
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:42.800
elites there, that's the head of
you know, NATO, so that there's

966
01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:45.600
a lot of pull over there,
a lot of diplomatic community over there as

967
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:48.399
well. Yeah, Sam Brussels,
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,

968
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:56.520
that's that's insane. That's insane.
Yeah, and yes, and that's Europe.

969
01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:03.079
It's not only Belgium, it's Europe. So yeah, that when I

970
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:08.199
found out about these things. So
the market true is just the latest thing

971
01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:11.079
I just found out about. You
know, I knew about pizza gate or

972
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:14.920
actually you should call it Peteo Gate
because it's it's much bigger than just the

973
01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:19.079
pizza place. Yeah, right in
the US. It's in Europe. I

974
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:25.479
found out about that, Uh,
I think like maybe a year or six

975
01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:29.279
months after a flat earth And yeah, it was heart chattering, man.

976
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:32.520
It it broke it really broke me. It actually really broke me. So

977
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:39.560
yeah, yeah, that's the downside
of being awake. I think, yeah,

978
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:42.920
I agreed, And I was at
that point where I kind of started

979
01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:46.039
looking at it and I'm like,
you, I have children and grandchildren,

980
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:50.720
and then somebody said something to me. It's like, yeah, well,

981
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:54.720
who's going to fight for the children? Like there there's this fine line of

982
01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:58.960
you want to turn a blind eye
because so it's horrific, because it's so

983
01:20:59.039 --> 01:21:01.520
horrific, excuse me. But at
the same time, who who's going to

984
01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:05.319
fight for these children? If if
everybody just turns a blind eye to it,

985
01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:09.399
it's just going to keep happening if
we don't shine a light on it,

986
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:14.680
right, Yeah, yeah, exactly. And we need to talk about

987
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:21.640
it, and you know, we
raise awareness because that's that's a big that's

988
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:27.000
already a big step forward because if
you raise awareness about it, people will

989
01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:30.039
know about it, people will notice
that, people will talk. I won't

990
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.520
be afraid to talk about it.
And that's what we need to do.

991
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:35.680
You know, get those things that
are in the shadows and get them out

992
01:21:35.720 --> 01:21:43.119
in the light, you know,
And yeah, it's you know, and

993
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:51.600
I I think from the first Conspiracy
lecture, I listened to those the you

994
01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:59.079
know, the older, the older
the og conspiracy theorists. They were,

995
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:03.239
you know, they had the message
that if you know, then you should

996
01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:10.479
share because just the owing and sitting
on it is no good. You know

997
01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:15.920
that I should share it, and
you know, and the more I know

998
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:18.239
and older I get, the more
I understand. So yeah, I try.

999
01:22:18.279 --> 01:22:24.840
I try to share it as well. Absolutely, And as we begin

1000
01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:27.479
to bring this to a close,
I do want to mention your YouTube channel

1001
01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:30.079
before we go, but I do
want to ask you one more question.

1002
01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:33.800
And you mentioned your six silver bullets, which I'll really I'll read real quick.

1003
01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:39.159
No observable curvature, the moon landing
hoax, the big one which has

1004
01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:43.520
not talked about enough, which is
just about every astronaut was a freemason,

1005
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:48.600
no photos. Everything is cgi from
earther planets, the flight the flight paths

1006
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:51.640
is a big one, and the
firmament, which is a big one.

1007
01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:56.359
The firmament is a huge one.
And if you read the story of Noah's

1008
01:22:56.439 --> 01:23:00.319
Ark and et cetera, the you
really realize how big of a player of

1009
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:08.760
the firmament is in the Bible.
Yeah, exactly, And it totally changes

1010
01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:13.520
your understanding of the Bible as well, because, yeah, if you have

1011
01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:21.800
the scientific outlook on the Bible.
You you kind of view those terms as

1012
01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:27.479
archaic as they like to call everything
now right now, the Internet, I

1013
01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:32.479
like to call it the flat earth. They call it archaic. But yeah,

1014
01:23:33.319 --> 01:23:38.880
you so it. It kind of
takes away, it takes away a

1015
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:44.680
little because you have a lot of
guests coming on on on on your show

1016
01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:50.840
that that actually just found God through
flat Earth, sir. And for me,

1017
01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:55.039
it was yeah, for me was
the other way because I was already

1018
01:23:55.159 --> 01:24:00.920
you know, very close to God, you know, and you know I

1019
01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:04.159
have a lot of faith. I
wouldn't say I'm religious because I you know,

1020
01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:11.840
I have I had my run ins
and and figuratively speaking with with organized

1021
01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:18.680
religion. Uh. And you know
I I I applaud everyone if if if

1022
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:23.880
they choose to do anything. You
know, A lot of my friends are

1023
01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:26.479
Muslims, a lot of my friends
are Christian. I have all kinds of

1024
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:30.640
different friends from different backgrounds. But
for me, personally, you know,

1025
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:38.079
I I like to keep my my
faith and between me and God. Uh

1026
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:46.079
and uh. But the the way
it changed because even if we were spinning

1027
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:50.079
on on the ball and floating through
space, I would still believe in God

1028
01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:55.960
because it was so incredible for me
that that we were floating on the ball

1029
01:24:56.119 --> 01:24:59.800
through space. And I remember asking
people, do you know that where you

1030
01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:02.319
know, flying through space? What
do you feel about that? Do you

1031
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:08.119
think that's normal? You know,
I remember asking those questions, you're like

1032
01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:13.159
really asking because I'm a guide of
person. I like to make things abstract,

1033
01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:16.800
just keep on thinking about something and
and and you know, uh,

1034
01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:21.399
make it almost absurd. And I
thought it was almost absurd, like this

1035
01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:27.600
is how you know that we're floating
through space and and everyone acts like it's

1036
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:31.720
normal. I just couldn't. I
couldn't explain it. But still even if

1037
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:34.960
that was the case, I would
still really believe in in there's a there's

1038
01:25:34.960 --> 01:25:39.880
a guy because I had a personal
personal Uh yeah, I just had a

1039
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:45.840
personal relationship with God. So but
after after Flat Earth, this it got

1040
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:50.920
so so much more, It got
so so many It got so much more

1041
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:56.479
meaning to it. You know,
the stars being you know what they are,

1042
01:25:56.640 --> 01:26:02.920
stars angels actually planets also being stars
and yeah, everything it just made

1043
01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:05.600
it just clicks, you know,
just you know when you know, you

1044
01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:11.760
know, that's that's basically how it
feels when you when you start understanding that.

1045
01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:15.319
And yeah, yeah, that's that's
that's a big one for me.

1046
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:19.359
Yeah, likewise, not for me, the Bible made more sense and it

1047
01:26:19.399 --> 01:26:23.600
was easier to read. Now everything
kind of clicked like, oh okay,

1048
01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:29.920
that makes sense. Yeah exactly,
yeah, exactly, and and and and

1049
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:34.039
that's you know, it gave it
gave the scientists, gave them a little

1050
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:39.520
bit of foothold when they try to, you know, ridicule ridicule the Bible

1051
01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:45.960
because of the terms used, you
know, they try to change that.

1052
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:49.560
And and now we're taking that power
back. It seems like, you know,

1053
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:56.520
certainly are certainly are One last thing
before we wrap it up. Your

1054
01:26:56.640 --> 01:27:00.079
YouTube channel, Borean calling almost eleven
thousand followers, well done. Tell us

1055
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:06.119
a little bit about your channel.
Yeah, so this is uh the channel

1056
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:14.600
it started when uh, just after
I I got into flat Earth and I

1057
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:17.560
got into uh, you know,
the the changed history, you know,

1058
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:25.319
the Tartaria and a totally me Famenco. I don't know if you heard about

1059
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:30.840
him. It's a Russian mathematician.
He has books on how how they changed

1060
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:33.880
the times and stuff like that.
So these are the things that made me

1061
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:38.800
want to, you know, also
share share my knowledge. And you know,

1062
01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:45.840
I started off with all kinds of
videos about the different the different history

1063
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:51.960
or I think I did a couple
of Bigfoot videos as well. I did

1064
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:59.640
all kinds of things. Yeah,
and and but I was also in always

1065
01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:05.920
into Jematria. I always would run
things through Jematria. And the background in

1066
01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:09.720
that is also from the Bible,
because you I don't know if you heard

1067
01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:13.960
of the utim and the tumim uh. Those are you know, stones that

1068
01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:17.039
are that the priest would have on
their on their chest plate. But a

1069
01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:21.760
lot of people thinks that think that
those stones were used for a form of

1070
01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:30.760
divination, you know. And I
was fascinated by that concept. And with

1071
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:35.640
that in mind, I always was
researching every I would put everything through the

1072
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:44.119
Jematria machine. And there was this
time that there was one YouTuber he came

1073
01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:50.079
out with a bunch of ye phrases
that he said he received while he was

1074
01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:59.319
sleeping and he remembered an encounter with
supernatural beings and they gave him this these

1075
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:03.159
phrases, and because my thing was
Germatria, I just put it in a

1076
01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:09.720
Jematriy machine. And that was the
first time that I started noticing there was

1077
01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:15.960
a pattern pattern in their results that
I got from the machine. So what

1078
01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:19.640
I did I put I get there. It was sort of a message,

1079
01:29:19.960 --> 01:29:24.039
and it was really a rudimentary form. If I look back, it's it's

1080
01:29:24.079 --> 01:29:29.079
really rudimentary. But I just uploaded
it and shared it and got a lot

1081
01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:34.760
of traction, and all of a
sudden, I started getting all kinds of

1082
01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:40.680
emails from from and George. I
got like, I kid you not,

1083
01:29:40.840 --> 01:29:44.720
I got hundreds of thousands of emails
now, okay, hundreds, I think

1084
01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:48.640
I think about one hundred and fifty
thousand emails. I couldn't keep up with

1085
01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:53.479
it. I couldn't keep up with
it. Everyone was sending me emails for

1086
01:29:53.520 --> 01:30:01.479
some for some reason, explaining that
they also had a dream with a phrase

1087
01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:05.800
in a dream and if I could
decoded, wow. So it started.

1088
01:30:05.840 --> 01:30:09.560
First, I started with a couple
of emails I had like ten, and

1089
01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:14.640
I picked one and started decoding it
making a video, and people would would

1090
01:30:14.680 --> 01:30:16.680
massively send their emails. I couldn't
keep up with it. George. Yeah,

1091
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:24.560
still to this day, Yeah,
I still do this day have like,

1092
01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:30.199
like I think I decoded like twos
of what I received in the mail.

1093
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:38.119
Yeah, And through this process I
got better in decoding. I just

1094
01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:42.520
got better in yeah, putting a
phrase, in going through all the results

1095
01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:46.439
and seeing what fits, and and
and and these these messages that I decode,

1096
01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:53.319
they I use it actually as a
reason or as a tool, or

1097
01:30:53.359 --> 01:31:01.399
as an excuse to talk about different
conspiracies, because it's not There are so

1098
01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:09.119
many synchronicities with these messages, and
that's a supernatural aspect of it. I

1099
01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:12.960
just I don't know how that.
I don't know how it works. I

1100
01:31:13.079 --> 01:31:18.960
just know it is the way it
is. It allows me to take things

1101
01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:25.239
that are happening right now, so
and they're all a little bit conspiracy minded

1102
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:30.560
things things about like pizza, gay, things about Satanism, things about you

1103
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:35.720
know, the elites. It allows
me because it talks about these these concepts,

1104
01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:41.960
and it allows me to explain.
So a lot of the people that

1105
01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:45.159
follow me, when they first started
following me, they didn't know about a

1106
01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:48.920
lot of things that I talked about. And also a lot of Bible versus

1107
01:31:49.039 --> 01:31:58.760
or Bible oriented concepts, you know, make their appearance in the messages.

1108
01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:00.720
So I get to talk about that. So I get to get you know,

1109
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:05.600
get Bible verses and explore the Bible
verses and see what it what it

1110
01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:10.800
means and how it correlates to the
message, and yeah, it's cool.

1111
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:14.560
It's a cool thing to do,
and I like it. And I have

1112
01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:19.239
all kinds of different viewers, and
you know, some are Christians, are

1113
01:32:19.319 --> 01:32:24.279
Catholic, others are Muslim. I
have all kinds of some people you know,

1114
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:28.520
are just spiritual, you know,
and uh, yeah, it's it's

1115
01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:32.520
uh, it's it's it's it's cool
to do. I haven't been making videos

1116
01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:39.800
the last couple of months because after
I made my last one, I got

1117
01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:43.680
the news that a dear friend of
mine passed away. And she was very

1118
01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:48.760
young, she was thirty one,
and yeah, it was you know,

1119
01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:54.479
you know, it was pretty hard
for me to h yeah, to just

1120
01:32:54.520 --> 01:32:59.960
continue. And I have a lot
of pictures of her as well as somewhere

1121
01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:02.319
in a folder on my computer.
But it's the same computer that I used

1122
01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:09.199
to work on, so I was
just avoiding actually, you know, sitting

1123
01:33:09.279 --> 01:33:13.600
sitting behind my computer and work on
these things. And actually you're the first,

1124
01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:18.560
you know, on my thing I'm
doing right now after after that happened.

1125
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:25.239
So yeah, mamont condolences. I
know, that's uh, that's difficult,

1126
01:33:25.319 --> 01:33:29.239
especially when somebody's young. It's never
easy. Something I look forward to.

1127
01:33:29.359 --> 01:33:33.520
You did a video called the World's
Secret Religion, the Jamatri Decoded and

1128
01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:38.760
you the thumbnail is I think it's
the guy who did that five or six

1129
01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:42.960
hour video who was either in Hollywood
or a rock band, and he just

1130
01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:46.119
went on and emptied his heart about
what really goes on, So that I'm

1131
01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:51.560
looking forward to that one. Yeah, So yeah, if you watch that

1132
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:57.600
one, you can you will understand
a little bit how how it works,

1133
01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:02.039
you know, because what I do. I take the saw the title,

1134
01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:05.960
the title of the video that he
uploaded, the world Secret Religion. I

1135
01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:10.720
put that in the Gematria machine,
and I get all the results and I

1136
01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:15.680
see what what message I get from
that, and the message that's in there

1137
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:20.239
it has to do with what he's
talking about. So that's basically a little

1138
01:34:20.279 --> 01:34:24.800
bit how it works and did well. We're certainly in unusual times, and

1139
01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:27.920
I think there's going to be a
lot of activity on the world stage in

1140
01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:30.119
the coming months. So if you
do get back to videos, I don't

1141
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:34.520
think there'll be a lack of things
to talk about, that's for sure exactly

1142
01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:40.319
now. And George, I'm gearing
up to start again because you know,

1143
01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:45.319
I've been the last couple of days. I've been preparing a little bit for

1144
01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:48.039
for this, uh, this conversation
I was having with you, So I

1145
01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:53.119
would also have been through the folders
and I try to try to look at

1146
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:58.800
some of the pictures. So it's
you know, it's there's no you say

1147
01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:02.840
that. It's easier for me now
to sit here and you know, work

1148
01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:06.960
on stuff. And I know that
I have I have a couple of you

1149
01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:11.680
know, followers that they keep messaging
me from how you're doing, you know,

1150
01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:15.399
and I need to get back at
them. And I have a lot

1151
01:35:15.399 --> 01:35:20.399
of emails as well that I want
to respond to. And you you you

1152
01:35:20.439 --> 01:35:26.359
really gave me. Also, you
inspired me to start also on Spotify.

1153
01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:28.920
I have one, so the last
one I did was on Spotify. And

1154
01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:32.720
yeah, you inspired me to,
you know, because I see you working

1155
01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:36.880
really hard. Uh you know,
every every week I see two or three,

1156
01:35:38.159 --> 01:35:42.079
uh sometimes four new podcasts and I'm
like, yo, George's George is

1157
01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:46.800
really putting in the work, and
uh yeah, yeah, yeah, man,

1158
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:50.000
your your inspiration. So yeah,
thank you for that. Well,

1159
01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:54.319
I appreciate it, Rodney, And
it's been a pleasure. I could talk

1160
01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:58.039
all day. I think you're you're
pretty hip to all the rabbit holes.

1161
01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:01.760
And I could go on and on, but we'll leave it here for now,

1162
01:36:01.880 --> 01:36:05.600
and I hope we are able to
cross roads again. And it's been

1163
01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:10.760
great. You know. We talk
about technology being a double edged sword,

1164
01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:14.680
and it's been a pleasure being able
to sit down and have a conversation with

1165
01:36:14.720 --> 01:36:16.159
a guy on the other side of
the Atlantic Ocean. And you're full of

1166
01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:21.079
knowledge. And I will have Rodney's
YouTube channel and all the links, and

1167
01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:26.720
if that video was the correct one
with the Crown Killers, I'll put that

1168
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:30.279
in the show description as well.
And you'll be able to reach out to

1169
01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:32.000
Rodney if you have any questions.
You can add to those on hundred and

1170
01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:36.520
fifty thousand emails that he's got in
front of him. So, Rodney,

1171
01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:41.640
it's just been a pleasure to talk
to you today, and I've learned a

1172
01:36:41.680 --> 01:36:45.319
lot of stuff and I'm sure it'll
resonate with a lot of the listeners.

1173
01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:51.000
Yeah. So you know, and
like I said before, Georgia wasn't I

1174
01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:56.359
wasn't here to plug my oh I
understand channel. I wanted to do it

1175
01:36:56.399 --> 01:37:00.359
for you. I was just here
because I really like the way you're again

1176
01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:02.760
and I would love, I'd just
love to have a little conversation with you.

1177
01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:08.760
And yeah, that's uh, it's
it's been awesome, it has it's

1178
01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:11.399
been a lot of fun and I
can't thank you enough. And again I

1179
01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:15.000
look forward to chatting with you again
in the future. So thank you so

1180
01:37:15.079 --> 01:37:16.760
much, Rodney, and thank you
so much to all the listeners out there

1181
01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:20.039
for your continued support. And again, if you'd like to join the program

1182
01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:24.279
like Rodney did today, it's the
Flat Earth Files at gmail dot com.

1183
01:37:24.319 --> 01:37:27.560
And for Rodney, I am George. Everyone, have a great rest of

1184
01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:30.479
your week, and until we talk
again, keep your head on a swivel

1185
01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:31.239
and we will see you