WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:09.000 Ripe in Peace comedy legend, Paul rubens Um, you're trying to get him 2 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:11.800 into the Comedy Hall of Fame here, it's a little bit overselling. He 3 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:16.160 created one of the greatest, most memorable characters of all time. That is 4 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:19.600 true. That is true, But would you call him a comedic legend? 5 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:25.160 I think based off that kind of like that is his brainchild. It's not 6 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:29.719 just like something that was given to him. He made that character. I 7 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:34.840 agree with you. I'm what the semantics were getting into here though, is 8 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:38.880 how funny really is pee Wee Herman? For you a bunch of people in 9 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:43.640 the eighties and like we can also a man who made a pee Wee Herman. 10 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:46.200 I do want to yes, I want to give my flowers right there 11 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:49.560 because that was the first time I was ever noticed at my school. Is 12 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:54.320 for my final project, my final editing project. I made a YouTube video 13 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:57.640 that has now gone It might still be on Facebook, but it was for 14 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:03.000 Peewee's Flavored Condoms where I play Peewee Herman selling condoms and I would like to 15 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:07.120 thank him for we're creating that character for me then to have some fun with. 16 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:08.599 Yeah, this was this is what circa two thousand and nine, two 17 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:14.519 ten, somewhere around there. Yeah, admittedly, neither of us and our 18 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:17.680 interests have grown and gotten stronger over the years. But in high school, 19 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:21.000 despite the fact that I knew you played in instruments, I don't think and 20 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.599 we spent a lot of time together in hockey albums, I don't think either 21 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:27.920 of us knew we had like that arts her side to us. And so 22 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:33.799 that was the first time that Peewee Herman video is the first time I realized 23 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.439 that you were as weird as you are. And I'm like, oh, 24 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.280 okay, he's like he goes to art school. I knew that, but 25 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:41.680 like, once I saw that, I was like all right, and then 26 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:45.319 eventually, you know, through the years we sort of figured out each other's 27 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:49.280 old own weirdness, and uh, that was that was the first time, 28 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:52.599 legit that I realized that you you were goo. So once again, thank 29 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:56.439 you for that. But also besides Peewee, he had one of the greatest 30 00:01:56.480 --> 00:02:01.799 one offs in television history when he played the I Think Austrian prince in thirty 31 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:07.319 Rock. It is one of the funniest episodes. He is so good in 32 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.639 that episode. I don't know why I don't like thirty Rock as much as 33 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:13.759 most other people. I'm not sure why I couldn't tell you why. Also, 34 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:15.479 after the scandal, which, by the way, if that was modern 35 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:21.159 day, that would have been like yesterday's news. Immediately he was mocked and 36 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:24.680 ridiculed for like two years straight. He wasn't blackballed because he did find a 37 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:29.240 way back into entertainment. He had to move on from like the children's stuff. 38 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:34.400 Obviously he did some Tim Burton stuff, but he kind of got a 39 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:38.199 bum deal for that. We should probably talk about how innovative his character was 40 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:43.039 in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Well, yes, that and also mystery 41 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.639 Men. Oh is that the what I'm thinking of? Yeah, what you 42 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:50.759 just said was the Sean Connery movie. Yeah, oh no, not that 43 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.960 one. No mystery Men's Mystery. Yeah, mystery Man. It's the worst 44 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:59.879 version of the Sean Connery movie. M mystery Men's a bad movie, right, 45 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:01.960 we could all acknowledge, but it did give us all star. I 46 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:08.560 think I like mystery Men. Yeah, Cal's Nitt Ben Stiller, Janine Garofolo, 47 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:15.000 the Waffler. You know how it is? Rest in peace, ri 48 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:20.199 ip in peace? King? Is that what we say? Now? King 49 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.240 Herman, King Herman, Oh, King Herman. That's a good one. 50 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:46.719 It's not bad one. Three year, just three King of Queen Street entertain 51 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:53.840 Goo and I'm Mac. And the interim hill it was I was coming up 52 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:59.520 with a mount rushmore of Herman's and I've got George Herman, Ruth Herman, 53 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.919 Munster, pee wee Herman, and we need a fourth for the Herman guys. 54 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:08.599 Get on Twitter right now and give us our fourth Herman, please, 55 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:15.879 and we bring you friendship. And today Mac, we are here to drop 56 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:20.240 the bomb. Oh you dropped the bomb. Um me Bibby, you dropped 57 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:24.800 the bomb. That was such an interesting use of that song in the movie, 58 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:29.519 at the its most pivotal moment, we broke out into seventies disco. 59 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:32.399 It was very bizarre. You thought it was, you know, a timely 60 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:39.279 piece using all the music from the time. Today we're talking about Oppenheimer. 61 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:45.759 Oppenheimer is a rated R biography, drama and history. I would add in 62 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.839 there. I guess, I guess you can't call it a thriller, but 63 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:55.240 it is thrilling at moments, and it makes you uncomfortable enough in some of 64 00:04:55.240 --> 00:05:00.319 the highest moments in a good way. Yeah, I felt such great anxiety 65 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.680 throughout the movie anxiety inducing. I think, is is that what we love? 66 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:08.319 We love anxious movies, like yeah, but some people don't. I 67 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:10.720 know, I was, I was saying, is we love Uncut Gems more 68 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:16.199 than most and I love how like weird? And like, what's the word 69 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:19.839 I'm looking for here? I'm doing the shacks forth? Yeah, squirmy. 70 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:25.959 I feel I feel squirmy watching this movie especially, and like there's not a 71 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.800 ton to spoil here just because it is historical and we won't get into too 72 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.800 much of the spoiler stuff until later. But like when they're doing the bomb 73 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:39.240 test for twenty minutes, I'm like, m I think there's a difference though. 74 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:43.800 The difference between this movie and a movie like Uncut Gems is this is 75 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:48.680 anxiety inducing, whereas Uncut Gems is an anxiety driven. Anxiety drives that movie, 76 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:53.160 you know what I mean? So I sort of get I understood why 77 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:57.000 people had an issue with Uncut Gems, But to you and I, that's 78 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:00.639 what made it so great. And I think that's kind of you're getting at 79 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.680 there. Yeah, And before we get started with this review, Mac, 80 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:08.399 I am here to apologize. Oh yeah, I don't think I don't think 81 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:11.839 an apologies. I'm gonna do it anyways, Mac, because he pooped on 82 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.639 the movie. Well over the last six months, whenever we got any news 83 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.480 of Nolan being a little over the top with his description of this movie, 84 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:23.560 or an actor talking about this movie, or the eleven miles of film, 85 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:27.399 or anything else in news dump that we decided to have a little fun with. 86 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:31.560 I'm sorry. It's all worth it and it's all true. Uh yeah, 87 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:34.639 fair enough. I accept your apology, Christopher Nolan, accept your apology. 88 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:39.279 It's a little it was a little fair to start with the Nolan criticism 89 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:43.920 because Goo, in the nine years since Interstellar, all we had gotten and 90 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:48.079 Interstellar is an issue with some people love that movie, some people hate it. 91 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:54.160 I find myself being more in between. Oddly enough, in the eight 92 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:58.279 or nine years since Interstellar, the only two movies we've gotten from him is 93 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:02.920 Dunkirk, a very critically acclaimed movie. I didn't love it. It was 94 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:08.800 a good movie. Not nearly Oppenheimer and Dunkirk in the same universe. Uh 95 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:13.079 yeah, I guess you'd say so, because they're both roughly historically accurate movies. 96 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.800 So it's in our universe and they come around the same time too, 97 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:20.519 and then his most recent GOO was Tenant and Tenant. To me, it 98 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.399 was the first time where I felt like Christopher Nolan took it too far. 99 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:28.160 Some people argued Interstellar did that, I didn't. I Actually I liked the 100 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.759 conclusion to Miterstellar, you know, even though it's sort of meanders do you 101 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:35.800 also love buzz Lightyear? So I'm big buzz Lightyear guy. Yup. Tenant 102 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:40.600 was the first time where I was like, all right, we're doing too 103 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:44.959 much, Chris, like drain it in. I still question if we saw 104 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.680 that in imax first, not on our phones, would we have liked it 105 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:53.120 more? Right, because notably we watched it on our phones together. We 106 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:57.079 shared a phone and we sat in a photo booth and we just did one 107 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:01.959 of those uh no, because the the story of Tenant as interesting as it 108 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.199 is once you realize what it is. And for me that was like thirty 109 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.000 minutes after the movie was over and I finished googling stuff, and finally I 110 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:15.680 never had to Google or YouTube more after watching a movie because that was confused, 111 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.160 right, And then I was like, oh, all right, that's 112 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.600 fucking awesome. But I didn't get it during the runtime so I didn't get 113 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:24.519 to experience that sort of euforic moment in the movie like I did an inception. 114 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.959 An inception it has that euforic moment at the end, whatever way you 115 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.480 want to believe how it ends, Tenant was devoid of that. Now. 116 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.240 I'm sure some people did understand it, which is good for you, but 117 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.000 that was made for such a small group of fans. And to your point 118 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:45.840 though, watching that on home release, you are a little more distracted and 119 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:48.879 you are missing on some things maybe you should have picked up on. But 120 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.399 man, that was too much. So that going into this movie we realized 121 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:56.759 that there was gonna be an element of time manipulation here. You know what, 122 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:01.720 there really wasn't. He does tell a nonlinear it's nonlinear, but it 123 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.919 also kind of is like he still tells it in the points of like here's 124 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.600 him in college, here's the bomb, here's after the bomb. It's a 125 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.360 nonlinear story. But he doesn't manipulate time in this for the first time and 126 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.080 every other movie I've seen that Christopher Nolan has made, he manipulated except for 127 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:22.080 that part in the middle where Albert Einstein is like, up and tim, 128 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:28.480 are you read time travel? Did you find Einstein a little distracting at first, 129 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.679 but then I really liked the portrayal by the end because at first I 130 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.600 thought he was like some weird old guy like this oath who lost his hat. 131 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.320 Yeah, yeah, and then you realize he's actually he's like so all 132 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.399 knowing that he's just like done going through it. Like when we first see 133 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:46.559 him, his pants fall down and he goes, oh not again, pulls 134 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:52.159 his suspenders up for me because of what I just said, how he doesn't 135 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.759 manipulate time, and it is mostly historically accurate story. I mean, I 136 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.639 don't know what wouldn't be accord I'm just saying they're probably something in there, 137 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:05.000 like the Internet hates the fifty star flags when there should have been forty eight. 138 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.080 Okay, so the Internet. I know that his grandson hates the Apple 139 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.039 part of the movie and says that never happened, but there's parts in books 140 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.039 that says that it does, so I don't know. Also, it adds 141 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.759 a layer to the story. It sure it does. And all this is 142 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:22.559 a roundabout way of me saying that this is by far Christopher Nolan's most accessible 143 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.919 movie. And if you don't know what that means, it means you can 144 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:31.919 watch this movie and understand it immediately, where in most other Christopher Nolan movies, 145 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.559 even the Batman movies, get a little convoluted. There's no convolution in 146 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:41.080 here. It's straightforward. What's put on the screen is meant to be understood 147 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.200 by you immediately. You don't have to overthink. You're ready for this. 148 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.440 You can put this on the DVD. Because Christopher Nolan likes having hard copies 149 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:56.039 of things. This is a film made for moviegoers. Yes, that's a 150 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.200 good way of saying that. All right, I'm done, guys. I 151 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.360 don't think that's making the cover because someone's gonna read that and be like, 152 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.799 what the fuck does he mean by that? He made it more confusing. 153 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:13.480 I get it go. Speaking of Christopher Nolan, his catalog, this movie 154 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.799 on Rotten Tomatoes says ninety four percent from the audience, ninety two percent from 155 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:20.799 oh sorry, ninety four percent from the critics, ninety two percent from the 156 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:26.759 audience, And amongst other Christopher Nolan movies, that is fourth highest, the 157 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:30.960 three above it being Memento, Batman Begins in the Dark Night, which is 158 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.360 understandable. Great, yeah, and this um even though it has made for 159 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.960 movie Goers is not quite a blockbuster, right, It's a film made one 160 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:46.679 awards. It's closely it's it does marry the two things. Well, it's 161 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:52.360 tied with the Prestige at ninety two percent. Just on Metacritic, this has 162 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.120 an eighty eight. The second highest ever from a Nolan film Number one is 163 00:11:56.200 --> 00:12:01.080 Dunkirk at ninety four, the two behind to close out the Rushmore Dark Night 164 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:05.720 at eighty four and Memento at eighty three. So I would say going into 165 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:09.879 this movie, first of all, it's very surprising, and I have some 166 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.840 Nolan facts as we get on here. Can you think of a good name 167 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:18.120 for that segment You're Nolan facts segment. It's very surprising to sort of think 168 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:22.159 about as relevant as he's been in the film industry for do you know, 169 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:28.679 Nolan, he has yet to get his flowers ge Really, you know what's 170 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.600 gonna happen in six months? He's getting all the fucking flowers from so he's 171 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:35.200 gonna get it. I think that Murphy's gonna get it. I think that 172 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:39.639 Downey Junior is gonna get it. I think that Blunt's gonna get it. 173 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.399 I think there's a lot of awards happening here. Also, and I'm curious. 174 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:48.879 I was talking to someone about this, but a lot of these movies 175 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:54.000 that are coming out in the fall being delayed, how will that affect the 176 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:58.440 oscar bait movies? Well, those also get pushed because if that's the case, 177 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:01.200 not a lot of competition out there. You could also see them, 178 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.799 like they did a little in twenty twenty one, pushing off the oscars a 179 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.840 little bit or opening up the window as to when movies could be considered for 180 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:13.720 the twenty twenty four awards for twenty twenty three, So that'll be interesting to 181 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.559 see what happens there, Like they'll be like, okay, up for Best 182 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:20.679 Male Actor in a movie, even though I think this might be a female 183 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:31.720 cocaine bear verse Killian Murphy. It's a mama bear right go. This movie, 184 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.240 of course, was written and directed by Christopher Nolan. And this movie 185 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:41.879 that Nolan wrote is based on the book American Prometheus, The Triumph and Tragedy 186 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:48.039 of Jay Robert Robert of Jay Robert Oppenheimer. And they do toy with that 187 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:52.519 theme too, the whole Prometheus idea and sort of being like above everyone and 188 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.759 controlling. Can I ask you this question? And you might not have these 189 00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:00.360 facts in front of you, okay, are they're the most words that have 190 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:03.039 ever been in the movie. Does this set the record? Because it's three 191 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.039 hours of just talking. It is a lot of dialogue, But no, 192 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.120 I don't think it. Probably it's probably nowhere close. It could be close. 193 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:13.639 I wrote that book Goo, Hi Bird and Martin Sherwin, so credit 194 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:20.159 to them for writing such a And and also, um, everyone knows Einstein 195 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.159 and his association with the science behind the atomic bomb and the hydrogen bomb, 196 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.519 that whole thing. Uh, No, one really knows this story. So 197 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.559 that's a really interesting component here too. Oppenheimer. You know, there's obviously 198 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.919 some historians and some nerds that do know Jay Robert Robert Oppenheimer. I've heard 199 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.759 the name before, but I didn't know a fucking thing about this story. 200 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:41.840 Yeah, like I've heard the name, I've heard of the Manhattan Project. 201 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:46.080 But like, this really paints a picture. Oh does it? Ever? 202 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.840 Does it? And back to some Nolan facts here some hashtag fax Oh call 203 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.879 it um like spell Nolan with a K and a W. Yeah, that'll 204 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.919 really get the folks. That's that's what the segments called his catalog Goo. 205 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.559 Going back to the nineteen ninety eight, following two thousand, Memento two thousand 206 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:05.399 and two, Insomnia two thousand and five, Begins two thousand and six, 207 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.919 to Prestige two thousand and eight, The Dark Knight two thousand and ten, 208 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.559 Inception. It's interesting he made two of his best movies in the middle of 209 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:16.759 The Dark Knight Saga twenty twelve, The Dark Knight Rises twenty fourteen, Interstellar 210 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:22.279 twenty seventeen, Dunkirk twenty twenty tenet of all those movies, goo, would 211 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.240 you say? And I have three questions here so you don't have to answer 212 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:30.720 right away? Is this the best Christopher Nolan movie? Number two? Is 213 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.600 it your favorite? Number three? Are those two things the same thing? 214 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.519 I mean, for me, it is because The Dark Knight is my favorite 215 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.120 and I think is the best. I would say Inception, Okay, No, 216 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.720 Inception is also great, so I think that it would be on the 217 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:48.159 Mount Rushmore for me. Yeah, this is for sure in the top two 218 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.679 or three of Christopher Nolan movie. I might like this more than Inception, 219 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:56.639 but I think Inception visually is just bananas. So the thing I'll say to 220 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.639 that, and I was thinking about this earlier, is much as I like 221 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:04.480 this movie. This movie doesn't like leave you with the feeling that Inception does. 222 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:07.879 That. A lot of my favorite movies leave you thinking about this, 223 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:12.879 that or the other thing and doesn't really change the way I view films, 224 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:15.840 whereas Exception does a little bit, and to that point, the Dark Knight 225 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:19.120 does as well. This movie isn't meant to leave you with that feeling though, 226 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:23.679 unless you really didn't know the happenings of like post war and Cold War 227 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:27.320 sort of stuff, which then maybe it doesn't change your opinion thing on things. 228 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.480 And of course, like during World War One, all that communism stuff 229 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:34.200 is actually very interesting and there's a lot of people that obviously don't have never 230 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:38.320 heard that or don't really know anything about that. Two. Yeah, that's 231 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:42.480 what I say. I just think I said during the war. But world 232 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:45.360 War one, all right, whatever, I don't want the people to get 233 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.679 at you. I don't want Reddit attacking one of the two great wars. 234 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.080 Good Um, all of those movies that I just listed, which are some 235 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:59.399 incredible movies, Good No. One is almost devoid of Academy Award nominations. 236 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:03.599 Here he only has three Academy Award nominations. Goo, and I'll give you 237 00:17:03.599 --> 00:17:07.359 a guess as to what they are. Okay, so I am going to 238 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:11.640 guess Dark Knight. Nope, well okay, and I'm not called first of 239 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.079 all. So overall, two movies he made got nominated for Best Picture, 240 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.759 Memento and Inception. On an individual level, he only has three nominations. 241 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:26.039 So you just told me the answer. No, okay, let's see here, 242 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:32.559 I don't know. He has been nominated twice for Best Original Screenplay gou 243 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.960 Memento and Inception, and only once for direction Dunkirk. That's insane to think 244 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:41.319 about. That's absolutely insane to think about all of those movies I named, 245 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:45.000 and he got nominated Best Director once. He has more writing nominations than he 246 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.519 does direction. I mean. But also think of the fact that he was 247 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.680 able, like look at this cast of actors, that he was able to 248 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:57.240 get that much talent on the screen because people want to work with him. 249 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:03.400 Do you think, now this is fucking kind of overdone with notable actors and 250 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.359 actresses. But he has done the best job I think, taking very known 251 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:12.960 actors and actresses and putting them in roles that you don't It's not distracting. 252 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:18.799 It's in this movie in particular, there's like three or fourcastings that you were 253 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.559 like, I can't believe that guy played that role so well. Is it 254 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.279 a secret that Casey afflecks in this movie. I don't think it's a secret. 255 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:27.200 Okay, he's definitely not build. He's not build. But like when 256 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:30.440 he pops up, I was like, who who's this? And then you 257 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:34.000 see him, You're like, what's this happening? He's fucking great in that. 258 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.759 Oh my god, he's amazing. I don't think I never would have 259 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:40.680 thought he could play that role, and he does it so fucking everyone in 260 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:45.319 this movie is amazing. If you have never heard of chrispher Nolan, you 261 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:48.359 liked this movie. What he does have upcoming? Goo? At least this 262 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.920 is what I AMDB says. I don't know how true this is in development 263 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:59.519 is a remake of Memento. I don't think he's directing it. If anything, 264 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:02.799 he might have like a producing credit on or something. I don't know 265 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:07.440 why that would be allowed to be remade. Came up twenty three years ago, 266 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:12.279 and it just makes no sense. Let's get to Oppenheimer. Synopsis of 267 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:18.039 Oppenheimer, the story of American scientist Jay Robert. I can't I have such 268 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:22.559 a hard time saying the whole name Jay, Robert Oppenheimert Oppenheimer, stop saying 269 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:29.160 Jay and his role in the development of the atomic bomb, and bear with 270 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:33.000 me as goo, just tease. There's one thousand actors and actresses in this. 271 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.519 This stars Killian Murphy as Jay, Robert Oppenheimer, got it out. 272 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:41.039 Credit to me, Emily Blunt as his wife, Kitty Oppenheimer, Robert Downey 273 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.200 Junior as Lewis Strauss, and we'll get to this more in a little bit. 274 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.960 One of the early things I saw is how amazing our DJ is in 275 00:19:49.079 --> 00:19:52.880 this role. And I have to say it's a little oversold. I don't 276 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.960 think he's disagree. I think he's amazing in this. I think the way 277 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.559 that he do enough, I don't. I think the way that he turns 278 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.000 off and on the charm in this is fantastic. He's very good, not 279 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.279 nearly my favorite, especially in the supporting role. And then here we go 280 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:10.799 Kenneth Branda as Neil's Bore, Tom Conti as Albert Einstein, which is a 281 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:15.000 performance that definitely grows on you during the movie. David Krumholtz was very good 282 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.839 as Izzy. Rabbi rab r Abi Rabbi. I guess that's how you say 283 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:26.279 it. Matthias schwide Hoefer as Werner Heisenberg, which any Breaking Bad fan loved, 284 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:30.240 loved the inclusion of him in this movie. Also New Mexico too. 285 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.759 People love New Mexico, Big New Mexico, face black and it's a big 286 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:40.119 Breaking Bad movie. Josh Hartnett as Ernest Lawrence, who I think was the 287 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:44.680 biggest pleasant surprise of this whole thing. And he's fucking fantastic. His hair 288 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:49.640 is a little distracting to me. He is easily the second best performance in 289 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:55.440 this movie. Did you know that he was originally slated to play Nolan's Batman 290 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:59.519 and he turned it down. I after this movie, you can see how 291 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:03.200 very easily he could play a batman, a stoic figure, because he does 292 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.960 it in this just as a regular sign. And Nolan said to him, 293 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.079 do this and you'll be getting a ton of work in Harte. It's like, 294 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:15.839 I don't think I wanna Alex Wolfe as Louis Alvarez, Josh Zuckerman as 295 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:21.359 Rossi Lomanitz, Florence Pugh is Gene Tatlock, Jefferson Hall as Hakon Chevalier, 296 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:26.559 Brick Kyle is Barbara Chevalier, and they play a very important sort of plot 297 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:32.599 device in this whole movie. Matthew Modine as Vanavard Bush, David Desmalchin as 298 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:37.039 William Borden, who was phenomenal in his sort of limited role, as well, 299 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:40.799 Matt Damon as Lessie Groves. He is the major general of the Army 300 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:45.400 Corps, engineers, the whole sort of second element to putting together this whole 301 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.519 team. He's the Nick Fury of this movie. And I also think he 302 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.880 was better than Robert Downey Jr. So if we're gonna do a power ranking 303 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.359 of all the actors in this movie, I wouldn't have Ardie j second. 304 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.720 But he's still great in the movie. But he's the one that they're pushing 305 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:04.240 forward to get the supporting nam and the award, and I think it's misguided 306 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:08.240 blanking on the guy's name. But who was the one that was making the 307 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:15.079 hydrogen bomb? Benny Safty. I think he might be number two. He's 308 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.359 very good in this movie and then out of nowhere, like Emily Blunt is 309 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:22.480 good in the movie and then she turns great like this. Yes, it's 310 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.079 an incredible, incredible moment in the movie. Dame de Hans Kenneth Nichols, 311 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:32.480 who is traditionally very distracting, very distracting because he looks so weird. Not 312 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:33.799 in this I don't know how they pulled it off, but he left his 313 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:42.960 green face painted home. Dude, Josh Josh Peck Kenneth Brainbridge as in Drake 314 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.519 and Josh's Josh. So it was kind of distracting where in his scene there 315 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.640 was a window in the background and Josh is just in the window looking in. 316 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:57.039 He is the gentleman who sort of leads the Trinity Test there in New 317 00:22:57.039 --> 00:23:02.799 Mexico, which is to have Aspeck playing a major role in a Christopher Nolan 318 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:08.119 and then when the bomb went off, hug me, brother. We could 319 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:14.319 have written this movie. Jack Quaid as Richard Fineman that is of course Herey 320 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:18.839 from the Boys, Benny Safty to your point as Edward Teller him Goo. 321 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:25.680 Rammy Mallick is David Hill for ninety seven percent of this movie. He's silent, 322 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:27.720 and I said, best pstic has ever made. And then when he 323 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:32.799 finally speaks, also great. So credit to this movie for getting me to 324 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:37.480 not hate Rommy Malick. Casey Affleck is Boris pass who Goo and I already 325 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:42.680 talked about being incredible number two or three. This movie is his performance after 326 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:48.680 performance and it's led by Kelly and Murphy is in all three hours of this 327 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:53.319 movie, Kelly and Murphy is. I didn't want to say it to you 328 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:56.160 right away because I'd have to go and do some research, but I would 329 00:23:56.200 --> 00:24:00.680 say, for sure in the top ten acting performances of all time, and 330 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.400 you could even move them up to that top five is range. You'd have 331 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:06.519 to obviously think about that more. You know, what it is. What 332 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:08.559 it reminds me of it it's not apples to apples, obviously, because this 333 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:15.240 is a completely different movie. But it reminds me of how Rayleiota and Goodfellas 334 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:22.720 it's so hard to separate the performer and the character that they're portraying. It's 335 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.400 kind of like that, how they just dominate the screen the entire movie, 336 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:32.400 and to your point, at different ages, and you feel the nuanced difference 337 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:36.599 in the acting at those ages, which is just so fucking Oppenheimer. In 338 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:40.599 the background of the interrogation scenes, in the background of those court scenes, 339 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:45.680 he's just so good. Yeah, just watch him in the background, the 340 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:51.119 stoicism. It's got these big, wide, gaping empty eyes for him to 341 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:55.799 be able to convey the kindness still to all his co workers even after they 342 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:59.640 kind of put him down. Yeah, it's truly impressive because even like his 343 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:03.400 wife doesn't want to and he's still able to do it. Well. They 344 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:08.599 play it as this all knowing person that wants to learn more and understand more. 345 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:12.519 Yeah, that's essentially all he wants to do on every level of his 346 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:15.799 life. Yes. Good. The final three here before we get into this 347 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:22.000 movie even further. Gary Oldman plays Harry S. Truman and cheers up the 348 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.519 screen quite a bit. When my favorite scene of the movie it is. 349 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.680 I I almost laughed out loud. I liked when he was leaving the room 350 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.200 and he was like make sure that no, no, come back to my 351 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.839 office. When he handed him the tissue, I was like, fucking amazing. 352 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.079 Yeah, because he goes from buddy buddy to he flips the switch where 353 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:45.039 he's like, all right, this fucking guy sucks. Yeah, that was 354 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:51.839 the line in the movie. Guy sucks finally, and he drops the Southern 355 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:59.400 accent too. Jason Clark as Roger Rob and our pal Han Solo himself Alden 356 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:03.400 Aaron Right gets the Senate aid, there he the shitty eating grin that he 357 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:10.400 conveyed was fucking phenomenal all time, shit eating grin. Uh. Do before 358 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:12.200 I get into some of the historical stuff about this movie, do you want 359 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.039 to speak about the movie before I speak for like three minutes here? Let's 360 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:19.119 see here, I like, on the cover of Times after he dropped the 361 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:25.720 bomb. Uh, the the cover title said bomb Daddy, so they referred 362 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:30.119 to him asks all right, good mute, Mike. Mute is Mike. 363 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:37.480 The movie, even though it's billed as the story of Robert Oppenheimer and how 364 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:42.279 the atomic bomb was built, is like so much more than that on every 365 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:47.480 other level. It gets so deeper than that. Um. It gets into 366 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:52.799 like the American feeling and how the people were thinking and doing um in that 367 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.960 distinct time post World War One, during World War two, before the war 368 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.400 is over and the war is won, and how all of those influences end 369 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:06.519 up in like I guess, three distinct groups, and how the politics surrounding 370 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.160 that affect how the bomb comes to be and how that team is put together. 371 00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:15.519 And that's super interesting to see, like Damon and Killy Murphy going through 372 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.599 that with everyone else and how they sort of commit, and that's where Damon's 373 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.319 magic comes in here, is he's so good at being this general that's sort 374 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.680 of hard asked with Oppenheimer and the scientists, but on the back end, 375 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.359 he's actually kind of sleazy and he's helping them out as much as and sneaky. 376 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.119 He went to m I T right, Yeah, so he also kind 377 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:37.039 of understands everything they're talking about through a certain degree. So the influence is 378 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:41.720 all that surrounding politics and the era has on the bomb making, I think 379 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.960 is the true magic of this movie. Of course, Killy Murphy's great, 380 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.400 but it truly captures like how the normal everyday person is feeling, and it 381 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:53.039 gets into the communist party and whatnot, and then you have like your classic 382 00:27:53.039 --> 00:28:00.160 conservatives and the conservative scientists, which is how Josh Hartnett's Ernest Lawrence plays to 383 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:06.279 this. Like he has such a hard time marrying his personal beliefs in mixing 384 00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:10.240 that with the essence of what his job is, which is to push boundaries 385 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.759 and really not believe what you're told. But then in his home life he's 386 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:17.480 kind of doing the exact opposite of that, and so that's where the conflict 387 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:22.559 comes between Oppenheimer and Lawrence is that very essence, Like Oppenheimer's like, hey, 388 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.160 what we're doing here, Well, why don't you apply that at home? 389 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.839 Because it seems like you're doing the very opposite of that, and and 390 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.920 that's like to me, that's my favorite relationship in the movie is the heartnet 391 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.839 Kille and Murphy stuff. There's some great scenes in there, and that's what 392 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.759 this movie does a good job of showing too, as how Oppenheimer sort of 393 00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:45.920 uses his scientific brain and basically applies that to every level of his life. 394 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:49.680 And how little he actually had to do with the making of the bomb. 395 00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.400 Yeah, he just put together the team. Yeah really, and then manage 396 00:28:53.440 --> 00:29:00.000 the team and had the idea to build a town, to build this bab 397 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.400 and keep everyone there for so many years. Let me ask you this question, 398 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.240 and I believe this one hundred percent. Is while they're in that town, 399 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.359 they are in the town for three years, and at one point they 400 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:17.960 they look around and every woman there is pregnant. Yeah, do you believe 401 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.960 that they are all Oppenheimer's babies? It's just fucking everyone. He likes to 402 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.319 put his dicks in it, dude. That's one of those little small touches. 403 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.400 That really gives the audience a full understanding of what's going on in that 404 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.559 town. And like how isolated they are is just they have nothing to do 405 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:37.839 but work, get home, drink, and then fuck each other. That's 406 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:42.799 it. Think of all the pandemic babies, right, It's that similar, 407 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:48.960 very similar to that. And back to like Oppenheimer dabbling, He has his 408 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.559 toes in a little bit of everything because he believes talking about all the women 409 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.720 he's been Yeah, he's dabbled in all the women, but he believes it's 410 00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:02.720 his job to explore and investigate everything, including religion and thoughts on God and 411 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.880 that whole thing. And ultimately it's what becomes is undoing because the American politics 412 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:14.039 and politicians don't want people asking questions, and all Oppenheimer does is question everything. 413 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.559 And that's obviously been a back and forth in American politics for a really 414 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:22.799 long time. But they do a perfect job personifying that with Oppenheimer in this 415 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.039 movie. One of the big things in here, and I don't I don't 416 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.759 know if people really realized how popular this was during World War Two, but 417 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:34.759 the American Communist Party had some real movement there in the in the nineteen thirties 418 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:40.480 and forties during this war, and it was it was hush hush, but 419 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:44.079 it was also very known by everyone. And that's why the FBI is investigating 420 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.160 the Communist Party, because they and their head said, oh, the Communist 421 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.640 Party here must be tied to Communists in Russia, communist elsewhere. So there's 422 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:57.319 this whole red scare thing that goes on in this movie and is done so 423 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:02.359 well in the third act of the movie. But like you don't you've never 424 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.839 really seen that represented on screen the way this movie does it, and it 425 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:12.039 doesn't necessarily apologize for any of it, but it humanizes those people and shows 426 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.400 you the thought process and all of it where it sort of came more from 427 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:21.000 like critical thinking that it was anything else. Really there was. There wasn't 428 00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:25.960 as what's the word here, It wasn't as nefarious as it's been played out 429 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.920 in American history. Yeah, I can absolutely see that. It's a lot 430 00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:34.400 of a lot of questioning. The Cold War comes about obviously post World War 431 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:40.000 Two, And they also do a good job in this showing how even during 432 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:45.160 the war, even while fighting the Nazis, the top American politicians and warmongerers 433 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.319 were way more scared of Russia than they ever were of Nazi Germany, which 434 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.799 is like really funny to think about and how true it really was. And 435 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:57.920 uh, there's three distinct timelines in this movie. It's Oppenheimer that lab Los 436 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:02.480 Alamos in nineteen thirty nine to nineteen forty two, building up to the Trinity 437 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.519 test. And then you have the nineteen fifty four security Clearance hearing, which 438 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:13.039 is the whole Red Scare stuff with the council that Strauss appoints because he is 439 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.079 in charge of the Atomic Energy Commission, and he ends up learning stuff about 440 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:21.720 Oppenheimer to use against Oppenheimer. And then finally the third timeline that really just 441 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:25.279 takes place in the third act is the nineteen fifty nine Senate confirmation for Lewis 442 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:31.839 Strauss. And I would say the one the biggest the tractor for me during 443 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:37.599 watching this movie was that third act and during this sort of center confirmation. 444 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.920 So I disagree. I was really pulled into that because just the overall trial, 445 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:47.279 and you know, is he un American of Oppenheimer, especially after now 446 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:52.680 he's dealing with that grief and the guilt put it in quotes of what he's 447 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.279 done, and he no longer he didn't have control over the bomb, and 448 00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.519 him and the other scientists they made the bomb to combat Nazi Germany, not 449 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:07.079 Japan, but he also loved the fame. To your point, that's also 450 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.279 another thing they illustrate quite well in this is the remorse that some of the 451 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:15.400 scientific community has creating this big weapon and then three weeks later it's dropped on 452 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:22.079 Nagasaki and Hiroshima and immediately they're like, oh, fuck, all this scientific 453 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.480 work we did, all these breakthroughs, just led to a couple hundred thousand 454 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:30.759 deaths, civilian deaths, And there's a rally in this movie that is really 455 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:35.039 really powerful. Yeah, and the fall out of that, And that's something 456 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.960 I underestimated going into this movie to show as much as they show post bomb 457 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:45.079 and how that really plays out, and sort of this remorse of being so 458 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.559 gifted in the Manhattan Project that half the scientists have and half of them don't 459 00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.880 have them move on and create the hydrogen bomb. But like, to me, 460 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.880 the nineteen fifty four stuff and that security hearing and how they dip back 461 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.480 in to the timeline was awesome. It was the strous stuff in the Senate 462 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.960 confirmation that I didn't care as much for it, because I also felt like 463 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.480 the nineteen fifty four stuff laid the groundwork for what was going to happen in 464 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.840 nineteen fifty nine. And obviously this is historically accurate, so a lot of 465 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.320 people knew that, but you knew he was getting rejected at the end of 466 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.679 that, so it wasn't I think it took a little too long to get 467 00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:22.760 there. Nah, I think it paced itself out pretty well. I'm on 468 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.000 the pacing. I'm on the side of pacing the final act here. I 469 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.559 did check my phone once and listen that again. It's a small, small 470 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.440 detractor to what is a pretty incredible movie here. But good, let's let's 471 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.679 get it into the gaunlet let's get to do the gauntlet mac fun factor and 472 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.280 it was fun to learn. Yeah, you know, it's a good way. 473 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.679 It's fun to learn things that happened. And like, my favorite era 474 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:51.559 of history is post World War One up and through the Cold War, because 475 00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:55.119 it's really the dynamic there is incredible, because it's all the fallout from World 476 00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:59.559 War One that leads to World War Two, that leads to the Cold War 477 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.679 arms race. And this taught me some things that I had never known before 478 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:09.119 satisfactor and I would say, come uppings. Uh, And this is sort 479 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:14.159 of what I was just referring to. Um. Maybe some people found the 480 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.559 Strouss stuff much more satisfying. It didn't quite hit from me. It hit 481 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:21.360 for me bore Rometer, and I think this is for a three hour movie, 482 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:27.480 wonderfully edited, and it keeps this breakneck speed throughout the entire movie. 483 00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.880 You did have to put a caveat in there, four three hour movie. 484 00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.960 Oh fuck you dickhead. You you did it. You said it, not 485 00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.280 me. Go check the tape. You said it post Trinity Bomb. I 486 00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.599 checked my phone once about ten minutes after. It'll be like, all right, 487 00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.280 I need to see how deep we are in here, because what's happening 488 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.480 right now isn't that interesting? Yeah, you picked up your phone and you 489 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:52.719 texted me and you said, I wish that Oppenheimer was played by Shelton from 490 00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.639 the Big Bank there did. That's the one thing. I'm like, that 491 00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:00.280 seems weird, but I'll check it out and your Rise movies. To this 492 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.719 movie's credit, it wrote me back in. Yeah, when I thought I 493 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:06.000 was kind of it was kind of losing me, it wrote me back in. 494 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:08.320 But Unfortunately, I did check my phone Halloween. Will this movie wage 495 00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.400 over time? And I guess there's only one way to go. Yeah, 496 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.719 it being a three hour movie, it has to wait in a little bit. 497 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:20.840 But this is a movie that maybe it'll wait after the second time. 498 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:22.719 For me, I want to see it again. That's how good. But 499 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.559 also with that fast paced dialogue, you might have missed something or were you 500 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.719 at one of those screenings where people kept on complaining that they couldn't hear a 501 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:32.760 lot of the dialogue. No, I didn't know that was a thing I've 502 00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:37.039 heard people complaining about, like the sound mixing. I heard every piece. 503 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.800 What is what is happening to people? Yeah? I know I didn't hear 504 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.960 that complaint. That's maybe if I watch it with close capsuling, maybe I 505 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:50.480 missed stuff. I don't know. Aquator it's better than Aquaman. Oh yeah, 506 00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:55.760 it's it's almost offensive to even mention that pants Tan City Excite bike Mania. 507 00:36:55.960 --> 00:37:01.400 The whole builds up to the bomb really got me going. The last 508 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:09.199 like ten twenty minutes before the Trinity test is so fucking like anxiety inducing in 509 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:14.519 your life. Even though you know it successful, watching it play out still 510 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.280 gave you a bit of anxiety and go. Also for me, I thought 511 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:22.679 a top three or four scene in this movie was Emily Blunt's testimony in the 512 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.199 ninety four Council hearing. That was fucking incredible, great scene. And of 513 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:29.679 course when he dropped the bomb, he looked at the other scientists and he 514 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:35.039 said, bazinga, he dropped a Mike. That's one of you know, 515 00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.320 when Mac and I remake this movie with Sheldon from the Big Bank Theory, 516 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.559 it was his idea Max credit Union, who are you giving credit to? 517 00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:46.000 I'll give credit real quick to Josh Hartnett because I want to see Josh Hartnett 518 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:52.159 and more dramatic roles like this. But credit here to again Killian Murphy putting 519 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.559 on one of the best, and if someone said it was the best, 520 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.800 I wouldn't argue it. Performances of all time. Yeah. I like when 521 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:04.119 Hartnett said to Murphy, I've been here for forty days and forty nights because 522 00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:07.800 everyone just started quoting all of their movies. That's he made everyone pregnant. 523 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:13.119 Actually, that's like when everyone when his friend there, he looks at him 524 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:21.400 and he goes, there's ten things I hate about you. It's like in 525 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.960 that movie. No, No, the other guy there, his friend from 526 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:31.440 the train who always gave him food hot dogs. Mac And for those of 527 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.639 you TARTI to the Mac and Goop party. We rate everything on a forty 528 00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.280 hot dog rating system. Mac I already said this this is a film for 529 00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:44.679 moviegoers, and unlike a lot of biopics, there is no role in this 530 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.679 movie. There's no performance in this movie that is distracting. Like we have 531 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.199 had so many biopics over the past decade where it's really good, but there's 532 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:57.440 one person that overdoes it and you're like, I cannot take this. Yeah, 533 00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.480 So to your point, distracting in a way that's un human like, 534 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.480 distracting in a way that's never actually happened. Yeah, Like, this movie 535 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:10.079 does such a good job with powerful but subdued performances and almost every single care 536 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.800 Like I think the most out of place guy is probably Josh Peck just because 537 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.320 we know him as Joses. But it's still done so well that I just 538 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.239 fucking overlooked. It didn't bother me. And of course, speaking of the 539 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.320 main star of the movie, I've already made the comparison to like a Raliota 540 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:28.679 and Good Fellows, where it's just such a dominant performance and his eyes, 541 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:34.119 the way that he is able just to stare off and have that empty it 542 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.320 punches up the grief and the conflict and of just of the consequences of what 543 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:44.320 he's dealing with. It's also like he has this Orson Wells like voice that 544 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:49.679 works perfectly in this movie. Yeah, it's quietly intimidating. How do you 545 00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.320 feel about his clothes? About those high waisted pants. I love the high 546 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.440 waisted pants with the tie that comes down to the nippless, Like right here, 547 00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:00.280 that's it. I liked Emily in this movie. And then I loved 548 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:04.679 Emily Blunt in this movie, Like she built it up slowly where you're like, 549 00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.639 Okay, let's see where this is going, and then she just absolutely 550 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:12.360 crushes it. Yeah, and she almost like she almost didn't get enough screen 551 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.239 time, if that makes sense. And then just the build above the nuke 552 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.679 absolutely works for me. Gave me the old tanglies. I love that. 553 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:21.960 The music of this movie, the score of this movie, I don't know 554 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.239 if it stands out per se, but it really does build up the drama 555 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.840 of what's going on. I've already talked about the editing. I think the 556 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.519 editing is so good to tighten up this movie and still have it be pretty 557 00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:35.360 accessible for the three hours. The use of black and white to tell the 558 00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.840 different sides of the story. Maybe the black and white and we've already kind 559 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.320 of seen the theories of it. The black and white, and I believe 560 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:46.320 this is what actually happened, as opposed to everything in color is Oppenheimer's point 561 00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:50.480 of view, so things can be a little bit skewed. Nolan spoke about, 562 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:52.119 Yes, okay. So that's why I think I got it from the 563 00:40:52.559 --> 00:41:00.480 black and white is the objective you from outside of Oppenheimer how the world sees 564 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.719 him, and the colored version is Oppenheiber's view how he sees the world. 565 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:08.000 And then just the questioning and the interrogation as the backbone of the movie really 566 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:14.599 kept it moving. I got it at forty hot Dogs. Whoa is this 567 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:19.599 your second second forty of the year the fourth forty and two years? Am 568 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.320 I giving out too many forties? Wow? Maybe? Who knows? Who 569 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:27.880 cares? Uh goo? This movie is mash is on the cover of Mac 570 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:31.360 and Goose poster. I don't know, dot dot dot who cares? This 571 00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:37.519 movie is an absolute masterpiece. I think objectively, one of the greatest movies 572 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.519 ever made. And so initially when I was leaving the theater, I was 573 00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.679 toying with the idea of, like, how it's not a forty dog movie, 574 00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:47.400 because when the movie is so good, you have to weigh it against 575 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.559 other forty dog movies and what might knock it down and whatnot. So I 576 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.360 was thinking about, you know what, I did check my phone, that 577 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:59.400 third act didn't quite hit as much as as maybe it should have. And 578 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.039 then, of course, anytime there's nonlinear storytelling, and this is the thing 579 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.920 in every Nolan movie, it's a staple of Christopher Nolan. It can get 580 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.440 it could be a little annoying at times, and it was a tad annoying 581 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:14.360 a couple of times in here, but they pick it up enough when you 582 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:17.199 jump back that you're like, all right, never mind. So you're just 583 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.320 so invested in what's happening on the screen at almost every waking moment that it's 584 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.519 just really hard to knock this movie down. The dichotomy here is so interesting. 585 00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.840 You have these scientists on the leading edge of discoveries. They're working so 586 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:35.400 closely every day together, side by side, to achieve a common goal yet 587 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.840 and their personal lives some of them couldn't be further apart. So like toying 588 00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:43.679 with that and really diving into that, which they do, I think is 589 00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:46.599 what makes this movie so good and what takes it from a run of the 590 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.039 mill biopic and makes it a forty hot dog movie, an all time great 591 00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.880 movie. The relationship between Api and Ernst Lawrence in this movie is the most 592 00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:59.280 interesting relationship to me. Second, of course, also, I love how 593 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:04.960 everyone calls API. Yeah that is nice. Yeah it's too long. Yeah, 594 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:09.679 he's a hockey player. I really loved how no one plays with this 595 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:15.280 idea of struggle for power and for knowledge on every level in Oppenheimer's life. 596 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:20.639 Yea, every single scene, and it's as simple as husband versus wife, 597 00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:24.119 all the way to the biggest stage of controlling who's in charge creating this atomic 598 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:29.800 bomb. It's just it's so well done. Like I said, Kellian Murphy 599 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:31.719 is your best actor for this year, and if he doesn't win, we'll 600 00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.559 fucking riot. It's it's just he's that good. I'm not even going to 601 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.039 entertain anyone else at this point in the years, not even over again. 602 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:44.920 Another detracting a small one. I don't think Robert Downey Junr is the best 603 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.519 supporting actor in this movie. However, he's gonna get nominated and maybe he'll 604 00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.960 win, so that kind of a noise to shit out of me again, 605 00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:53.679 Matt Damon was better, Josh Hartnett was better, I think to your point, 606 00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:58.119 Benny Safti was better. So he's really good. He's just not the 607 00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:00.440 best supporting actor in the movie. And of course, when Blunt finally gets 608 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:04.840 her moment, I thought that was better than anything. Robert Dunning. I 609 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.400 think that's gonna win her an award. It might very well might go. 610 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:12.400 This is a forty hot dog movie. I just is annoyed as I was 611 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.880 with a couple of things in the third act. Everything else is so good 612 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:17.519 that it's just it's impossible to not give this, at least for me, 613 00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.480 forty hot dogs. So I haven't tied as the top movie on the year, 614 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:23.480 and I'd probably give it the slight edge over Spider Verse. Yeah, 615 00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.920 I go the other way. I go the other way because Spider Verse less 616 00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:29.920 leaves me with that blue balls feeling. At the end, I was like, 617 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:31.079 I really want more. I can't wait for the next one. Where 618 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.280 this movie is very complete from beginning to end, So maybe that makes it 619 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:37.360 better for some people. They're both forty hot dog movies. I was a 620 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.880 little more awestruck by across the Spider Verse. Shall we do a couple quick 621 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.599 spoilers? Yeah, I don't really have any, but I have two. 622 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:50.440 I have two. Number one one of the most don't know if it's prolific, 623 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:52.800 I don't. I don't know words. You're gonna help me out here. 624 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.280 But it's when the general says that he does not want to bomb a 625 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:04.280 Japanese region because he honeymoon there. Yeah, you're like them getting That was 626 00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.840 one of the sneaky, like darkest conversations in the horror movie, is them 627 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:15.719 deciding which innocent Japanese civilians to drop this atomic bomb on. And that's where 628 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:20.400 Oppenheimer starts to realize, Oh, all this scientific good I thought I was 629 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.239 doing is not so good, and so he starts down this path of wait, 630 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.760 are we really doing the right thing here? And the counter argument is 631 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.920 we have to otherwise the Russians are gonna beat us there, and Oppenheimer's like, 632 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:37.079 they're only getting there because we're getting so far. If we draw back, 633 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.280 they'll probably drop back because it won't be necessary. And so then that 634 00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:45.079 plays into the whole post war thing and the security clearance hearing there is he 635 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.079 doesn't want to pursue the hydrogen bomb because what's the point. What's the fucking 636 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.519 point. And then the counter argument is, well, if we don't, 637 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.280 Russia's gonna have want to drop it on us. So it's like it's an 638 00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:00.719 all time great like debate, an argument like, if you don't create a 639 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.559 hydrogen bomb, maybe Russia doesn't, but what if Russia does create one and 640 00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.039 you're behind the eight ball. Well one of the big things too, is 641 00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:12.239 that they were afraid that by dropping the bomb it would create a like a 642 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.079 chain reaction around the world and set off the atmosphere and then burn the world. 643 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.719 And then when talking to Einstein at the end, he's like, well, 644 00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.519 you kind of did that, yeah, right, he didn't do it 645 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.880 physically, but you did it metaphorically, which was a great preservation for the 646 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.880 end of the movie to finally show what Oppi and Einstein talked about there. 647 00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:37.559 And I also loved how when Oppenheimer told Damon it was a small chance, 648 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.960 not zero, but he said it's but not zero, you know, And 649 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.639 they still go through with it. It's just incredible that like to think of 650 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.360 that moment in time where there was a small possibility that just testing the atomic 651 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.800 bomb was going to kill every person on the planet. I also love the 652 00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.159 fact that Oppenheimer built his team not based off of past performances. So he 653 00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:01.159 didn't want Einstein, that's old science. But I also loved he built it 654 00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:06.440 without bias, so even people that he didn't agree with in their personal lives, 655 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.639 he just wanted the best people on his team. And then the last 656 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:16.000 thing here is in the movie flow Pu commit suicide or does she? Right? 657 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:21.639 She probably is Casey Affleck kill her. Yeah, I think you're led 658 00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:23.679 to believe and I don't know what the official ruling is. Maybe it's suicide 659 00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:30.039 in history. You're led to believe that Casey Affleck has Florence Pugh's character she 660 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:36.199 was gene Tatlock. You led to believe that Casey Affleck has her offt to 661 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.519 stop distracting Oppenheimer. Yes, and on top of it, probably because she's 662 00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:44.880 a Russian spy. Maybe they think so she gets killed. And I also 663 00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:50.000 love the response to everything that Casey Affleck is doing is Damon finally throws some 664 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.119 weight around and he transfers him to Britain, which I loved. Yeah, 665 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.400 but it's a good little question from the movie. And then also you know 666 00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:01.440 the grief stricken Oppenheimer of he believes it's suicide, but either way, he 667 00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:06.079 knows that he had her killed. I think he starts to understand that it 668 00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:12.199 wasn't suicide, yes, but he with that is because of his actions, 669 00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.880 she dies, and that's really what he's dealing with. And I also love 670 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:20.119 that scene in the courtroom where having sex and the wife's watching. That was 671 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:24.920 incredible. Yea. I love the scene where she finds and Kitty finds him 672 00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.960 grief stricken and she's like, fucking pulled together. You're Robert Oppenheimer, and 673 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:35.800 she knows that he has cheated on her with this lady. But when their 674 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.960 relationship started, she was a bit of a flusi herself. So they just 675 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:44.760 sort of have this understanding because this is her third marriage Oppenheimer, they just 676 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.679 have this understanding that they're both imperfect, but they just accept each other. 677 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.960 And that was a really great scene. That was the first scene where you're 678 00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.679 like, oh, Emily Blunt's doing great stuff here. And then the second 679 00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:58.039 scene of course was the Senate here. Also, you don't get to feel 680 00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.840 bad for doing something wrong, right, you did this, you have to 681 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:05.320 deal with the consequences of this. It's a great scene, it's a great 682 00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:08.320 message. That's really all I got. Yeah, no, it it's tough 683 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:13.840 to spoil us. And obviously the big moment in the film is when they 684 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:19.480 dropped the bomb in New Mexico and just if some terms here is that they 685 00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:23.360 use. Obviously we get the Heisenberg drop and that's where Oppenheimer began like this 686 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:28.599 German Dutch understanding of science, and it takes it to America, the Atomic 687 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.039 Energy Commission, which was led by Strauss and created post World War Two, 688 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:37.880 and this is where Strauss starts interviewing scientists and learning that Oppenheimer maybe not that 689 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.440 great of a guy, maybe doesn't see eye to eye with The Los Alamos 690 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.559 Laboratory was the New Mexico laboratory run by the cal Berkeley staff. They chose 691 00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:50.920 this site because that's where the Oppenheimer's just had a ranch, which I thought 692 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.760 was a cool little tidbit. They were very familiar with the area. They 693 00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:59.840 tested that bomb good July sixteenth, nineteen forty five. Test was success. 694 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.199 They dropped those two atomic bombs of Japan August and ninth. Such a quick 695 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.320 turnaround, it's kind of crazy. And so it's funny to think that those 696 00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:14.159 scientists have such a celebration on July sixteenth, and then August tenth they find 697 00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:19.239 out that their scientific advances murdered hundreds of thousands of people. It's like, 698 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.400 it's just to try to wrap your mind around that is crazy. And of 699 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:28.039 course the two bombs were created with uranium and plutonium. And then we're the 700 00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:31.199 Einstein scene we're talking about here that happens later on, takes place on the 701 00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:37.000 Princeton grounds, which Einstein was working for Strouss at Princeton, and you're led 702 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:43.440 to believe because Oppenheimer kind of poop poos. Strauss is really where the game 703 00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:47.039 begins between those two, sort of unbeknownst to Oppenheimer. The history nerd and 704 00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.800 me really love the attention to detail and more so like capturing the essence and 705 00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.719 the feelings of the time. It's just really hard to do that. It's 706 00:50:55.719 --> 00:51:00.480 really hard to do that. It's really hard to have actors convey that this 707 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.119 movie is just so fucking good. It's it's gonna be It's an interesting debate 708 00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:05.760 for the end of the year. And now we still have a couple of 709 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:08.079 movies that if you have to come out across the Spider Verse verse, this 710 00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.440 for the for the best movie of the year. So we've got ourselves a 711 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:23.840 devil Box thumbs up, Magoo Max that could be anything, It could be 712 00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:28.480 a boat and Mac just because we don't have a dump planned at least for 713 00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:32.719 the next two episodes. Let's quickly. We got a trailer for Loki season 714 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.440 two and it looks like a ton of keyhu Quan fun. Yeah, I'm 715 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.079 stoked that Key Hukuan seems to be playing a pivotal role in the show. 716 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:51.039 I want everyone that didn't like Secret Invasion to just stop doing anything and don't 717 00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:53.960 get your hopes up, because my hopes are high. Baby, you keep 718 00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.639 doing this and then you're not liking the show. Go. The main criticism 719 00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.920 everyone has about Secret Invasion is blowing my mind. I'm fine if you didn't 720 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:06.000 like the show, I could give a fuck. But if you're if your 721 00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.840 criticism is that, well, in the comics, it's null and void. 722 00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:17.679 Makes no sense. We are forty properties in forty four Zorrow it has to 723 00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:22.400 happen within context of the MCU. We're too far in for them to do 724 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.960 what they did in the comics. Now, you could say what on screen 725 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.559 you didn't like it. You could say that that's fine. But for you 726 00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:32.239 to say you don't like it because it's not what the comics did, you're 727 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:36.440 fucking idiot. You're a moron. Do you think we get the introduction of 728 00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:40.000 Deadpool in this? Maybe in a post credit I am looking forward to this, 729 00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:44.760 but again, I liked Secret Invasion, so fuck you guys. It 730 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.880 also reminds me of do you remember when I pitched this movie to you, 731 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:53.159 of the person who when they sneeze, they accidentally time travel. Do you 732 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:59.599 think Disney was listening to us? I am interested to see how much of 733 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:05.679 King we get in this. I'm interested to see how Sylvie has changed because 734 00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.480 of her actions. She got a new haircut, so she's definitely changed. 735 00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:13.519 But I wonder if her goals have changed now that she sort of accomplished what 736 00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:15.000 she wanted to do, probably to get another new haircut. I would say, 737 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.679 right, I don't like this one. She's got a five and find 738 00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:22.639 an intergalactic barber. It seems like very clearly that Deadpool is setting up for 739 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.960 crossover with this show. But yeah, I wonder if we actually get it 740 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.760 at the end of the street because Miss Minutes on Twitter tweeted at Deadpool one 741 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.360 time yep. And it also looks like we're gonna get expanded Miss Minutes role 742 00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:39.199 too Terror Straw. Well, that'll do it for this episode of Mac and 743 00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:43.119 Goo Mac Where can the people find us? You can find us on Twitter 744 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.800 and on Instagram, at Mac and Goo podcasts, and every other platform we 745 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:50.760 are mac Amber saying that includes Facebook, sit your tune in, castbux Speaker, 746 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.880 Google Play, I Heart Radio, We're on Spotify, but more importantly 747 00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:57.800 we're on Apple podcast. Get on their rate review subscribe five stars. If 748 00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.360 you do that, you'll get to free Conde t shirt from folks over Watertown 749 00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:05.199 Sports war Watertown Sportswear on thirty four mon Obit Street and Watertown watertown Sportswear dot 750 00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:09.639 com, exp screenprinting and embroidery Depublic dot Com. Check us out. At 751 00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:14.599 the end of the week, the box office will dictate what that episode is, 752 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.480 but we'll see possibly. I really like Barbie, I know, but 753 00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:24.400 I saw Turtles and I really like the Turtles. Ready for this? Ready? 754 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:29.920 I like Turtles. Yeah, you fucking nailed that. Yeah, it's 755 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.280 pretty good. I think it just makes sense to talk about Barbie before. 756 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:36.800 I think it would make more sense to talk about the movie that is released 757 00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:42.840 this week and also is going to win the box office, another Wednesday release 758 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.079 that they're just not telling us. There should be like a gold star or 759 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:49.639 a red thing when they talk about the movies that aren't coming out on Friday, 760 00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:52.079 so we'd know because we missed. Well, they just changed it, 761 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:53.239 I think a month ago, and it was in a news dump, and 762 00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:57.639 I told you several times. I've been telling you every day since that. 763 00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.039 Yeah, I've been like, hey, don't forget a second credit to you 764 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.079 the goobers. No, but most people don't. No, I'm looking for 765 00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:07.039 the movie m Barbie so far as the best joke of the year, so 766 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:13.400 that I don't know. If no, yes, I don't think so. 767 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:15.800 Well, are we gonna start ranking jokes especially we can do a top gen 768 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:22.239 jokes, especially with our interest in mind Barbie for sure, I didn't think 769 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.559 that joke was that funny. Oh it was incredible whatever, all right, 770 00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.280 so that'll do it for us? Check us out at the end of the 771 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:34.239 week for TBD, Tuesdays or Goose Days. I abuse kangaroos. Now it's 772 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:43.800 sign for girls jumping on trampolines. Please flip the cassette over to side B 773 00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:45.239 to continue the adventure.