Made a decision a face sunny sun on I hadasione nice, so rat Aily
just gave me the fame there, rude, rude. What's up everybody from
super wet southern California. Yeah, uh, it's funny because Cecily, my
co host on Rose Pricks. By the way, Rose like the Bachelor is
so is. Some of the drama that's going on in the Bachelor this season
is so ridiculous and insane. It's just these I don't know why it.
Yeah, millennials. They get their feelings hurt about like the craziest stuff.
There's there's one girl and then I'm going to circle back to why I brought
that up. But there's one girl who's her whole thing is that she's thirty
one, and she said that she feels old. So this other girl who
we like, he's like, you're not old. Like that's ridiculous, Like
if you're old, then I'm old to like we're all old. And so
the girl didn't like that because she wanted her feelings validated. She was like,
that invalidated my feelings. So then another girl was like, you don't
come. Another girl was like, you don't come for my girl. This
girl's name is Medina, the one that feels old. She goes, you
don't come for Medina. So this girl Maria who said who was like we're
all old? Then like that's crazy, like you're not old. That girl
was like wait, what did I do wrong? And she's like, you
came for my friend, like you didn't validate her feelings. And so the
girl Maria's like, oh my god, what are you talking about. That's
that's crazy. So then the girl who's stirring up the trouble goes to talk
to the girl who's like, I feel old and says, there's a girl
who's saying that you're not old. Wow. She whiles up the first girl
who's like, oh, she's saying I'm not old. Wow, that's that
really invalidates my feelings. Oh. So then the girl Maria that we like
goes finds out that this shit is being said about her. She goes to
talk to Medina, who were calling funky cold Medina and says, I'm sorry,
but who told you that? I said you're not old? But first
of all, you're not old, like I was saying it in a nice
way, like if you're old, we're all old. We're all around the
same age, like, and she's she's like, I'm not going to tell
you. I'm not going to tell you who told me. And she's like,
well why not, Like, just tell me who said it, but
so I can talk to that person and straighten this out. And she's like,
no, I'm not going to tell you. So later she says to
the bachelor, a girl who I'm not going to say her name, but
was was. I felt bullied because she kept asking me for the name of
the person who told on her. And this is very ridiculous. Doster's just
like okay. And then and then the other girl says, this girl Maria
verbally attacked me. She made me feel terrible. She really hurt my feelings.
She came for me. Those people in their twenties saying, well,
well there, one of them is named after a cocktail from the eighties.
Yeah, like I I don't know. It's who is the bachelor this year?
Joey and Joey Grazian And he's a tennis tennis Yeah he's really cute,
but he has no personality, but it's pretty fun to make fun of.
And then what happened with the Golden wedding. Does that did that happen?
That already happened? Yeah, I missed it. Yeah, Gary's married to
Teresa. Spoiler alert, okay to pick Terresa, Sorry if you're behind right.
Yeah. So and was that how was that? Was there any drama?
I was just not really, That's why I missed it. But anyway,
on our podcast, we were laughing about the idea of marking yourself safe
from the California rain, like that's what pussies we are, like, oh,
we're like marking ourselves safe. And because so Cecily did a thing on
Facebook where it invited me to like mark myself safe, I saw that and
she was just messing with she said, she was just joking because it's so
dumb, right right, It's like, yes, a couple of things have
happened to people, but their fluke things like somebody got hit by a falling
tree, right, It's not like our houses are getting like washed away in
the storm. Yeah. So there was evacuations like in Tapanga. I was
with an Italian and Malibu on Sunday. We were driving down pch long story
while we were there on the day of the storm. But I'll tell you
later. But we're driving and all of a sudden, you ge aren't on
the phone, and it's like, if you're into Panga Canyon, you need
to evacuate. It was one of the streets into Panga Canyon. You need
to evacuate right now, Like, grab your medication and your pets and your
loved ones and get the fuck out. And Natali and I were like,
oh my god. And we were right by PC so we missed. We're
right by to Panga Kang but we missed. Luckily, we're already on our
way home, and we missed the bulk of the rain because it didn't start
raining yet. But yeah, then I get the text from people like are
you okay right right right? I'm like, yeah, I'm in my pajamas.
We had a fire. We were watching TV. Yeah. Then did
your school get closed? Now? Sold yours? Yeah? It's so dramatic
with our school. So we're not part of LAUSD, and normally we follow
everything that LAUSD follows, so we keep getting these texts and emails and they're
like, listen, as of right now, we're following LAUSD's protocols. So
if they're open for school tomorrow, we're open for school. If they close,
were closed. Well, but then we get that alert saying that stay
off the roads in this ra the one that was like, do not drive,
do not be out on the streets unless you are evacuating. So we're
all sitting there going okay, well, I don't know, and the alert
was the warning was through nine am the following day. Well, so we
would have to drive the kids to school at eight am, right, So
we're like, well, that's weird. Why isn't LAUSD shutting down? And
so we're waiting and waiting, and we're like, well, I guess they're
expecting us to and our streets, our particular street that we live on,
gets very flooded when it rains like these. The rain goes up to the
sidewalk, but briefly only during the worst parts of the rain, and then
as soon as it slows down, it trains. Yea. Anyway, so
we were like, okay, that's weird. And then that night we got
a nut. We got like four more texts and an email and they're like,
schools closed. No. The next morning they said, even though LAUSD
is still open, we're closing because a lot of our teachers and our students
live in places that are impacted and under only drive if you're being evacuated warning.
But laus T stayed open. Yeah, so did we. I know.
But one of Sadie's friends who is at LAUSD, it's like her closest
friend was texting our pictures from the classroom and there were like two kids.
Oh really, which I understand. And it's irresponsible to have the buses driving
kids from far away in during like I now leave your house. Yeah,
yeah, I know. I remember when I was bussed and we would I
just remember getting soaked because the like just being by the bus stop and just
the streets in LA, the streets get just so flooded. But yeah,
I remember, I know, I remember being stuck. I really remember being
stuck on the freeway one day and not getting home till close to six o'clock
at night because it was pouring rain in Los Angeles. Yeah, and I
think about that now. Yeah, Like you're right, what about these you
know, these kids that gets stuck in traffic and stuff like it's yeah,
but people are always saying that people in LA do not know how to drive.
They dimes and I include and I'm one of those people. Like,
first of all, I only I don't like to drive faster than fifty seven
miles power on the freeway in perfect weather conditions. That's a very specific number,
fifty seven. It's weird because John and John makes fun of me because
he's like, I'm driving fifty seven. You're perfect, like perfect, so
like traffic to me is a blessing, and I'm like, good, nobody
can speak. The speed limit is usually sixty five, yes, right speed
limit is sixty five, So I'm that asshole that's like, why is this
person driving so slow? But I will do everybody a favor and stay in
the right lane. I'm not sure ye drive fifty seven in the fast lane.
I don't like to drive in the fast lane anyway, right. You
know why because I'm too close to that center divide and I cannot imagine how
people don't like hit that thing all the time. So listen when it's raining,
I find that I see that as an invitation to drive twenty five.
My god, I'm sure it tortures people. I'm sure I'm one of those
people that they're like, why is she's driving so slow? And I'm like,
guys, weather conditions, she gets some kind of bumper sticker on the
back of your car, like this car suffers from road anxiety or something.
Yes, kind like like they have for student drivers. Yeah, yeah,
kind students just have a say, student driver, just leave it back and
put a baby on board sticker on the back, just you know, because
why not, Yeah, just put all of them on there. Yeah,
super driver, whatever reason that you could give me some grace, Like,
understand, I should not be behind the wheel. The only thing I'm not
is a drunk driver. That's the only thing going for imagine, imagine the
anxiety that's the drinking plus like value. We should say hi to our peeps.
We really should. We're already like ten minutes into our show, so
it's I'm already having a really good time. Let us when when an extra
day goes by, I miss you guys. I'm like, well, I
know we should cancel because of the road conditions and because Kaylin's driving from Long
Beach, but like, I know, I'm gonna be bored. Yeah all
right, Ashley, she's so chic. Yeah, Alicia Kelly, he's your
aunt, so hot. Gabby and Missy so flip flops in the rain.
In the rain. They had a sailboat going down Ventura boulevard that they made.
Katerina's checking that moler Yep, Valerie, Bubba Fenwick, Polly, We
love your pancakes, Athena, we love your dancing. Elizabeth Williamson. Love
all your kids except for the one Rita rocks. All of Elizabeth's kids except
for the one in her Basonette. Jacob is growy. Leslie is a costing.
Oh still, she's just and somebody gave her an umbrella so that she
could stay dry exactly exactly. She was like, well, there's still people
shopping at Ikea. I got some some targets, Nikki, call your girl.
Aaron, who is not Anna faris Katie rolling on? Nanny Amy's a
cunt. Kelly La Di Da Dia, Wanta Hershey bar share bear. Stephanie's
a stinker wrinker. Leslie is also coughing still, but I understand because COVID
is making a comeback. Ragings the funo. Aaron is the dirty Sanchez.
Jennifer, get up, Sandra, it's not easy being green and Christal you
make me one strew. But so I have been glued to this trial,
Jennifer Crumbly trial for two reasons. For one, it's pretty interesting because it's
a it's the first time parents are getting charged with something, and maybe I
should do a little trigger because it is about you know, school shootings,
and it is a tragic situation. But so there's the story of the trial
and what happened, and and you know what situation talking about. So I'm
talking about in Michigan, take about twenty twenty one, November thirtieth, this
fifteen year old boy, his last name is Crumbly, went to high school
and and shot, like shot about seven I think to ten people now listen,
I'm no you know, court analysis, but so don't get you know,
I'm just was you know, I've been watching a lot of clips and
watched the whole thing. But anyway, so shot but killed four students,
okay, okay, ranging in the age of fourteen to seventeen, and some
of them were killed at point blank. So and he was writing, now
he already I'll get to what he was doing. But he already was convicted
and is in jail the rest of his life. And one of the reasons
why he didn't he didn't kill himself after is because he wanted to see the
aftermath of what happened, of what he created. So this kid, he
was fifteen, he was pretty disturbed and he was showing signs of having in
a mental crisis. So he Now the parents are on trial because because of
what the police found right away after the shooting from social media accounts. I'm
sure people remember the mom posted a picture of a nine millimeter gun on Instagram
and said, you know, his new Christmas present and also uh mother mother
son day at the shooting range, took him shooting, and then he was
posting videos of his new look at my new gift and whatever. So now
the parents are being charged with negligent manslaughter, so involuntary manslaughter. So I
believe like they had this, Like did they So it was he because he
was a minor? Yeah, to give him a gun? Well yes,
is that part? What part of the part of it? But they said
they didn't give him the gun. They bought it for him for to use
at the shooting range. But what and that's their defense, that's their defense.
Well, they have several and it's they're not being tried at the same
time. So she's the mom's on trial first, so and then they're also
saying that that uh that they wait, what was the question so was it
an assault weapon. It was a nine millimeter handgun automatic, a semi automatic
handgun, so which are not legal, right in the state of Michigan.
It's it's legal. And one of the things too, that's one of the
things that were as a country trying that the right and the most people want
those semi automatic weapons band Right, this was a handgun, right, it's
a nine still semi automatic, right, yeah, yeah, and it holds
like nine I don't know, shots or something like that, right, So
they but it's not illegal in the state of Michigan. So the dad,
the dad bought it. So now the mom is pointing fingers, you know,
basically like the dad bought it, I don't know much about guns,
blah blah blah, which the defense kind of proved a little bit like,
yeah, she was at a shooting range. They sh had they showed the
video at the shooting range, and the sun is basically showing the mom how
to use the gun like she didn't, you know. So there's so there's
a lot of you know, there's a lot of different layers to this story.
But the reason why that that the police were onto them pretty quickly is
because that day it was in the news that they went to the school that
morning because they had a meeting. So a couple of days before the shooting,
the kid was looking up bullets online in the class, and the the
teacher called the parents, and instead of the mom saying like, you know,
what's going on whatever, the mom sent a text to the to her
son and said like something like this, Yeah, lol, I'm not mad.
You just need to be careful not to get caught, you know.
Okay, So that was a couple of days before the shooting. Then they
go to the shooting range. Then, you know, so he must have
ordered him Amazon because he got him quick if he was looking up bullets.
Oh, he didn't get the he didn't get the bullets. They bought the
bullets. The parents bought the bullets. Oh, because they went them and
they took to the thing. Because they bought them the gun. They bought
the bullets. They took them to the shooting range. They went to the
shooting range a couple days before the shooting. The other thing was then one
of the things you might remember is the morning of the shooting, they the
kid was on his worksheet drawing a picture of the actual gun that they gave
him a picture of that gun, like drawing blood, saying stuff like blood
everywhere, like like help me, you know, just different things like this.
So they called the parents and they said again, now you guys need
to come to the school. We need to have a meeting. The mom
sends a text to the dad a picture of the drawings and said emergency,
I'm going to the school right now. She goes to the school, The
dad goes to the school. They have a meeting for about ten to fifteen
minutes. The mom even tells the mom is the breadwood. The dad is
a door dash driver, so he his job's pretty flexible. The mom works
like mark, I don't know what she she works in, like real estate
marketing something, and she's got a flexible job where she can work from home.
The boss lets her like make her own hours. So she tells the
boss, I'll be back soon. Okay. So she's already in her brain
linging this is nothing, I'm gonna I'll be back soon. Right, goes
to the school, meets with the school for ten to fifteen minutes. The
school testifies like she was pretty cold to the you know, to her,
like she acted inconvenienced. She didn't hug her son. They sat in the
office with the backpack that had the gun and the bullets in it. Nobody
knew he brought the gun to school the day of the day of the shooting.
In the morning, he was caught drawing that stuffing. I know about
the picture, but they also found a gun on him. Well, nobody
found a gun till after the shooting. The kid goes to the meeting.
He's his gun, he's preparing. He made a video the night before,
I'm gonna kill people tomorrow at school. Where was the video posted? I
don't think he posted it. He just made it like a manifesto thing,
Okay, And so they So the mom comes to the school and what she
only knows is that he's made these drawings about kids saying help help, and
no one knows that. Meanwhile, he has a gun with him, right,
the school doesn't. So a lot of people are like, why didn't
the school blah blah blah. But the school didn't know that they just bought
him a gun days before, right, So they're the schools like, this
is already disturbing that you're making these pictures and we don't even know that you
have a gun, right, got it? Okay, but the parents know
he has a gun, of course. Okay, So what happens. They
go to the meeting. They're there for like ten to fifteen minutes. She's
acting very like, you know, inconvenience right, and kind of cold,
you know, detached, and they they say to the school, says,
here's a list of therapists you have about twenty four to forty eight You need
to get this kid therapy, like into therapy. He needs to be seen
by somebody professional twenty four to forty eight hours. And also do you want
to take him home for the day? And they decided, well, the
parents said no, we got to work. Meanwhile, he's a DoorDash driver.
She's got flexible hours and doesn't have to go back to work, right,
but they decide as like, the school decides, well, he's been
lonely, his grandma died, he's been depressed. I think she might have
told the school of this part. She didn't tell the school a lot of
stuff. But his dog died recently, his best friend, his only like
real close friend, just moved away suddenly, and his grandma died, So
he's been in a funk. Okay, so they say, like basically,
since he doesn't want to be lonely and it's good for him to be around
his peers, let him stay at school. So they decide to let him
stay at school. Then that day, couplet like hour and a half later,
he's shooting up to school. So that's that's what happens to that bit.
Okay, So that's why the mom and dad are on trial. Yes,
pretty much. So it's involuntary manslaughter that they're facing up to fifteen years
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they they the kid does the shooting, right, and then what happens is
then the parents go on the lamb. Do you remember this? No,
this is all new to me. I mean it's yes, it's really interesting.
So what happens is is okay, so they find out there the school,
so they both go back to work. Then they hear like, there's
a there's a shooting going on at Oxford High School. So the and they're
probably like, what a coincidence? Right? Well kind of, so the
dad sends I think the dad sends a text to her or they call each
other or what and they they're like, holy shit. And the dad runs
home and says the gun is gone, and the and they're the bullets are
gone, and this is them texting each other. Yeah, they have this,
they have this. Yes, so the gun is gone. And what
the mom does is and also the son some doesn't really say I love you
to the mom very much. She tested She went on the stand and testified,
by the way, and she said that she looked at her phone after
she there was a shooting and it said mom. It said something like I
love you sorry, something like that, and she wrote back, ethan,
don't do it, is what she said. So she they knew something that
this Okay. The other thing is now it come to find out that this
kid was in a mental crisis for a while. He was writing to in
his journal saying like I beg my mom to go to a therapist, to
go to see a doctor. She just laughs at me. My dad tells
me to suck it up. So it's just the it's just the three of
them living in the home, okay. And so it's the two of them
now. In the meantime of all this, too, the prosecution is going
she is distracted and wasn't paying attention to her son because she's having an affair.
So she was having an affair Osha, which came out. She's also
obsessed with horses, and she was at the horse stables constantly and not they're
trying to say was not with her son and blah blah blah blah blah,
which I mean all of us moms. You know what if somebody was like
she was. Stephanie was really into playing threes on her phone like you right
now, a lot of times she could have been with her kids. It's
like in her room listening to podcast. So there's I'm giving you a lot
of the prosecution. It's evidence, but I'll tell you what the defense is.
Evidence they had, you know, they had a The defense is I
feel like has better proof than like she didn't really spend a lot of time
with her kid, yes, high school. Right, So so they're they're
saying all this, all this is coming out, Okay, there's they're showing
off why I'm producing like journals right these writing of the journals, Like he's
saying, like, you know, I need help. Uh he There's text
messages of him texting his parents like when are you going to come home?
It's late and I'm scared the house. There's a demon in the house.
There's there's ditch dishes flying off the shelves. I took a picture, I
took video of the demon. Now, also, the defense is saying,
that's good that you buy a gun for your kid who sees exactly and flying
off the shelves, right, that's good, that's evidence. Right, So
so she's saying, so there's there's all this going on, like he's in
a mental crisis, and she's saying like her kind of defense is like,
well, we're as a family. We joke around, Like there's a video.
I think that when it first happened, there was video on Facebook of
like her playing like pranks on her son. Like, for instance, they
were playing with the Ouiji board, her his his son, her son and
his friend playing Ouigi board and she flipped the breakers, so all the lights
in the house go off to scare the shit out of them. And it's
like and she's joking and she's video so it's like it's a little bit funny.
It's you know, it depends like how you you know what I mean
in this grand scheme of things, No, not funny, right, if
that was an isolated incident, we'd be like exactly, well, I'm you
know, I'm not like, of course parents play jokes on their kids and
whatever, and depends everybody's No, this is terrible. To get me wrong,
I'm comfortab Now I'm making a little don't worry, I'm bringing a little
levity to the fact that, like, why are you letting your kid play
with Uiji board? Who's telling you there's demons in the house in the first
place? Obviously, right, Well, the timeline also, she says,
she says she did not know about well, she knows about him seeing demons
and stuff because she was he was texting it to her. But as far
as him saying, I need help, I want to go to a doctor,
I want to I want to kill people, I'm I'm lost, you
know all these things that he was saying. She uh said that that she
just found out during the investigation. So now back to the day of the
shooting, the police are like, okay, they start to you know,
find out there was a meeting that day with the parents, so what what
the fuck? Why didn't the parents take the kid home? Now it's like,
you know, Monday morning quarterback and going on like, well, what
the fuck? Like this he had a gun in his backpack. Nobody looked,
Why didn't anybody look in the howk the parents didn't look in the backpack?
Like? How come the parents didn't go? You didn't you don't have
whor'se the gun? Like? You know? And by how come the parents
didn't look in the backpack? First of all? How can the parents didn't
lock the gun up? Like that's the thing. Well, they didn't lock
the gun. Yes, now that's negligence, that's involuntary manslaughter. So why
although are their laws that you have to lock your guns up in the state
of Michigan. I think that it. I think there is. I well,
if there's children in the home, I don't know. I mean it's
finers miners, I would think, you know, I mean I was brought
up with gun safety and I was I was not even allowed to tell friends
that we have guns. That was like a family secret because then somebody can
like want to look for the guns or like, you know, it was
like, we don't you know? Gun safety? One oh one is you
lock the guns and you don't give and you don't give the kid the password
to the fucking lot again, the listeners was saying on Facebook, they were
commenting about this, and I didn't know the whole story. I just know
that they were somebody posted about the Jennifer crumbly are you guys watching it?
And one of our listeners, Norm was talking about raising his kids having guns
in the house or whatever, and that their big thing was it only is
brought for the gun range or whatever, and also that they're locked up.
And then they have like a system. There's like a camera, like there's
a they get an alert on their phone if somebody's even around where the guns
were kept, right, and there's a it's a combination lock and nobody has
the combination except for but even if you're trying to like fuck around over there,
Yeah, they get alerted. My idea just from a quick Google search,
I saw that Michigan past legislation that would require gun owners to keep weapons
in safes or lock containers in twenty twenty three, and this shooting happened in
twenty twenty one, so it doesn't sound like there was any laws like that
at the time, and then it took two years to even get that right
legislation right, right, Yeah, okay, So so so the parents are
now like, so the police do go to their house find them, you
know, question them. Then the other thing too, like I was like,
they go to the police station, the kids there, the parents like,
don't the mom doesn't, like she's kind of cold, and I think
that the kid obviously has mental issues. I think the mom's a little like,
you know, she's got some something she did. She's not very emotional.
She probably would have paid attention to him if he was a horse,
probably, but she does say I'm that kind of person. I'm not.
I'm a plan or something. Crisis is in crisis, I plan like you
know how what what? You know? What? What? What are we
going to? Like she goes into survival mode. She's not like a crier
or whatever. Everybody handles tragedies different anyway, She basically just says on the
video like why to him, and then the cops like kind of get like
like put get them out of the room, and the dad's going, I
love you, I love you, I love you, as the parent,
as the parent, as the police are getting the parents out of the room.
Anyway, so they're they're questioned and then they're they're let go. But
then okay, so then they find out there's a press conference on the news
of the DA This blonde woman who knows her shit, and like she's all
business and she's like, we are going to be charging the parents with gross
negligence involuntary manslaughter, that this is something that could have been prevented. Blah
blah blah. She's like, you know, the evidence is now coming out.
This is like day after the shooting or whatever. So the parents in
the defense, According to defense, the parents are getting death threats. Now
people know where they live, there's there's protest of their house on their street
whatever. So they go through the banks, pull out cash, get their
shit, their zanis and their booze, and hit the road. And so
now they're kind of like gone by the way. Can I just ask one
question? Yeah, what about the school, Like the school had all these
warning signs and they just let the kids stay in school, Like, how
come they're not in trouble. Well, that's a good question. Trying to
stand up for their parents. I'm just saying, like, no, that's
true that the school. I think the school failed as well. However,
the school did not have the background information that the parents had. The school
did not know that he just got a gun and then he had access to
a gun. The school did not know that he was seeing demons. They
didn't see his journal, they didn't see text messages. All they know is
that he was searching for bullets online and then he draws this disturbing picture.
They don't know he's depressed and that he's crying out for mental health. So,
you know, and in their defense, guess they thought it'd be better
for him to stay at school that day and be with friends rather than just
go home and be alone. Well, the parents are at work, so
you know, but the parents knew. The parents had a better idea of
what was going on. This great, so yeah, so then they go
on. So then they they go So the police take their phones, and
they were interviewing the detective and they said, when you asked for her phone,
Jennifer Crumley's phone, did she give it to you voluntarily? And he
said no, she did not want to give me the phone. She put
up kind of an argument, and he said, we're going to get the
phone anyway, you might as well just give it to me. Well,
the herd thing was like, but I need phone numbers, and he said,
well, here's a piece of paper, write down all the phone numbers,
then give me the phone. Then he gets the phone and then he's
like what's the password, and she's like, I'm not giving it to you,
and the husband's like, just give it to them. They're going to
get it anyway. So she was kind of like kind of putting up this
fight, you know kind of thing. She was more they the prosecution thing.
She was more concerned about getting back to work that day. She also
called her boss like am I still gonna have a job? You know about
the horses that she was taken care of. So she was more concerned about
a lot of other things. She There was a comment that she made at
the home, like when the detective was interviewing and she said a lot of
lives were ruined today, but his life is really like ruined. Like she
was more concerned, like, you know, and all of our lives are
over now too, like we're fock. And she even put out on a
text to like somebody her boyfriend that she was seeing at the time, were
fucked. We're on the run. So then they go get burner phones and
then they get to pull out money, They pull out cash, and they
go and stay at a hotel. Then they stay at another hotel and then
like within two or three days. They they get hold of their lawyer,
their crackpot lawyer, which is another issue, and basically their there they are.
The defense is saying they're getting ready to turn themselves in on Saturday morning,
right in so but did they said? So? Then they go through
the child did you set an alarm to go get turned in? You took
like four they took four xanaxes the night of. So they're now they're staying,
I'd need a lot of xenx too, right, fuck the sobriety,
yeah, I'd be like, these are extenuating circumstances. I don't even think
this counts as a slip, right, It's just necessary. Right, So
they go, Okay, so they go on the lamb. They stay so
then they get a hold of a friend and she says, you could stay
at like our art studio in an industrial area, right, So they go
to all like they go to like miles away Detroit, I don't know,
somewhere an industrial area. They get the keys, they go to this building
and they just basically camp out there and they're going to turn themselves in.
Well, some good Samaritan sees that the car is there because they're on the
news, like this is the car they're driving. This license plate, sees
it calls the police. Within minutes, it's surrounded by swat FBI and they
bust in and she's passed out on them like a mattress. She's not even
it's like she's taking a nap. And there's like tons of cops and they're
going, you know, swat FBI, put your hands up. She's just
like like laying there on the because she was passed out of Yeah, depends
if they're a quarter milligram, no, but if they like a milligram each,
yeah, you're gonna be taking a good nap, yes, and booze
and also not sleeping for the last couple of days. So yeah, and
then they got they got arrested, and now that now she's now the jury's
deliberating, So then were they in jail after that? Then they went to
jail. They haven't spoken in two years, the husband and wife. They're
still married, but they haven't they haven't been like they So she takes the
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So the prosecution, So the prosecution, yes, in a good way,
the defense the defense attorney, right, but the prosecution you're saying is all
good. Oh they're good, Yes, they're good. But the real cuckoo
crack pot is the defense. I mean. So she was the defense attorney
for NASA or the guy from the gymnasser which I don't remember that. I
don't remember what happened with him. He was terrible, he was the gymnastic
I know what he was doing. But did she lose that case? Okay?
Oh he's in jail. Okay. So she has a partner, okay,
And for some reason, this partner has not been on this trial the
whole time, so she's been alone by herself. Now, I highly recommend
like just looking up Jennifer Crumley's attorney, Shannon Smith's Great Tits, because it's
all over the Internet, like social media, to the point where in her
closing arguments she addresses the fact that she's a mess on TikTok. She she
says, this is what she says she on the way to court. This
is her opening statements on the way to court. She blasted Taylor Swift to
calm her nerves and to get her voice going for her closing arguments. And
there's a line in one of the songs that summarizes what this case is about.
She says it says she says band aids don't stop bullet holes, which
I guess she got that line wrong as well. But she's saying, like
that is what the prosecutors are saying, that this is what this case is
all about. What the fuck does that mean? She is? So she
is like an SNL skit. Okay, some of her other greatest hits.
Is she she she well, she would say, she's saying it's not gonna
help solve this by these parents in jail. The band aids right, right,
bad bad use of like don't stop bullet holes. Yes, yeah.
So so then another thing is is during court she can't figure out how to
do the the the putting things up onto the screen, you know, and
technology, she's very bad and she makes no bones about it. She's not
good with technology, and you know, I'd be having the same problem.
I'd be like, can I bring my husband? Yeah? Right, So
she goes she's says in court, she goes, oh my god, she's
trying to do it, and she's like all flustered, and she goes,
I just want to kill myself. She says no, yes, and the
the prosecute prosecuting attorneys are like, oh what what hold on? Like we
have victims families in the courtroom, like can we have some decorum? Okay.
Then another time, I guess they were showing video at the school and
every there was in a dry eye, and I guess the defense she started
crying and she was wiping her tears, and the prosecution after the jury left,
I think, at some point said, look, your instructions, judge
was when this trial is to not try not to show emotion, even though
the judge says, I don't believe I said that because everybody's got emotion she
can't control. But she was said something to the effect like, let's like
control the emotions to both sides. And she's like to sit here and see,
you know, the defense attorney like crying and blah blah blah blah blah,
and so she's getting like reamed out by the prosecute. She so the
defense Shannon Smith, her name is Shannon. She turns around to the galley
and she wipes the tears with her middle fingers. She like goes, okay,
So she turns her back to the judge, wipes her tears like that,
yeah, then turns back around. And that's one of our other greatest.
Then another grace of hers is she's sitting there and doesn't realize the MIC's
on right because they're broadcasting and she's talked texting into her phone and she's like
order tank tops for jump or her tank tops go online, blah blah blah.
She's like, and then she goes. Then she turns around, she's
like, the MIC's not on it. I mean, she is just like
a bumbling And then there's another time where she's got her incense like essential oils
that she takes her jacket off and she basically gives herself like a sponge bath
with it and she's putting oil all over her and she's gonna and then she
puts her jacket back on. Now, like a lot of this sounds like
so what, but when you're in this courtroom, and you're watching how the
prosecution is like all business and then you got this like then just the way
she okay, her closing arguments was just did a bag, she did a
bang up job, like just ripe for SNL. Like she was like,
so listen. The way she talks is so whiny, and she's got that
like Michigan accent. So she's like, so, jury, I ask you.
We're all parents. We all make mistakes. I have four kids.
I barely have time to She's all about herself. Her closing arguments goes right
in about her life, how I barely have time to get home, wipe
my makeup off, make them top ramen for dinner. And then my daughter
is a psycho. So do we call our daughter a psycho? Yes?
My husband says she's nuts, she needs to go to a looney bed,
and I said, I know, I just want to kill her. Like
she says these like saying these things, oh my god, like I don't
have time. And then she's like she was talking to the judge. At
one point she goes, I am here eight hours a day at court.
I'm by myself. I'm trying this case on my own. I'm getting reprimanded
from the other side, like poor me, poor me. And then so
the closing arguments was all about how she's a terrible mom and how she calls
her kids psycho. Oh, and I had an oopsie baby too, because
there was a whole thing in the trial about Jennifer Crumbley calling her son an
oopsie baby because I guess he was a mistake. So she's like, she's
like, and I have I have three kids, and I was done.
This is her closing arguments. I was done. And then what happened?
I had an oopsie baby too, and I refer to her as an oopsie
baby? So what so what does that make me a bad mom? Like
she's just like the way God and she's taught, the way she talks her
cadence is just none the same way. And then she's like, I know,
I was on TikTok this week. She brings up being on TikTok during
her closing arguments about how disorganized I am. Am I a perfect mom?
No? Am I a perfect lawyer? No? Is Jennifer Crumbly a perfect
mom? No? Or are we any of us a perfect person? No?
I mean that's like, that's her closing argument. Wow. I mean
there's I mean it just goes on and on, and I mean it's just
it almost you feel like you're watching somebody that's maybe she's trying to like get
her like get them mistrial right right, you know she's gonna lose, yeah,
to give them, but that can't look good for her law firm.
No, no, I don't think if I get that they had in in
you know, bad counsel. Right. Oh, and then she says at
one point, she goes something like somebody says like, are you gonna go
have a bottle of wine this weekend after this weekend? She goes, I'm
gonna go have a five bottles of wine this weekend after this weekend. Yeah.
And she's like, it's just like in the in talking about her daughter
wanting top ramen for dinner. And I'm not going to fall for it.
So I tell her make your own dinner. And because she doesn't like the
top ramen that we have, we have eight. And then she goes,
we have eighty different flavors of top ramen. She goes, well, not
eighty, but we have seven different flavor This is this bitch is closing arguments.
If I was Jennifer Krumley. I would be snapping a pencil right now,
wanting to throw it at her brain, like fucking shut up, like
what do you do? Like how it was embarrassing and I love it.
That's her closing argument is like, yeah, is my client is a terrible
bomb? But me too? Yeah, me too, aren't we all?
Like I'm a terrible lawyer. I don't know how to get my shit together.
Yes, I am are an organ I'm unorganized. I'm only one person.
I am doing this by myself. It's like poor me, Like she's
the victim. She's throwing her counsel, her co counsel under the book.
Yes, like she she kept it. She referenced it many times, like
I'm just one person. There are two of them and it's just one of
me. Oh my god. So what's the verdict? Okay, so we
just now got uh yeah, what's the verdict in real time? Jennifer Crumbley
guilty of manslaughter? Wow? She faces up to fifteen years. Only fifteen
years. That's so weird because I listened to a lot of crime stuff and
you can go to jail for life, right, he went to jail.
Yeah, this isn't you can, you absolutely can. You can go.
You can get like a sixty year sentence for like tampering with a with evidence.
So she's so trial no thanks to her attorney. So did he have
his The son had his trial, so he's without possibility of parole the rest
of his life. And now the dad's gonna go. And now the dad's
going to trial, and he's got to think, I better have a better
attorney than this bitch. But now seeing that she's getting, you know,
and this what the mom. She placed a lot of blame throughout the trial
on the dad, like basically like he you know, uh, he bought
the gun, he knows how to shoot, he to you know, like
he researched the gun. Blah blah blah blah blah. She placed a lot
of blame on him. Yeah. So well he doesn't exactly seem innocent.
No, no, like they're both bad. Yeah. Wow, So she's
like more of the mastermind. I'm gonna go watch some of this girl.
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and then we'll do the rest on our Friday show. I also wanted to
plug the new podcast that I'm working on. Oh Yeah, Bombfire Talks with
Mark Wahlberg, the Temptation Island host who was a guest on the show a
few months ago. Stephanie Wilder Taylor is his guest this week. It was
a great episode, so it was really fun. Yeah, you did it
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But also the reason another reason you should download it and give it a listen
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