1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:15,880 Made a decision a face sunny sun on I hadasione nice, so rat Aily 2 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:23,480 just gave me the fame there, rude, rude. What's up everybody from 3 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:31,359 super wet southern California. Yeah, uh, it's funny because Cecily, my 4 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:37,560 co host on Rose Pricks. By the way, Rose like the Bachelor is 5 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,280 so is. Some of the drama that's going on in the Bachelor this season 6 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:47,359 is so ridiculous and insane. It's just these I don't know why it. 7 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:53,560 Yeah, millennials. They get their feelings hurt about like the craziest stuff. 8 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,159 There's there's one girl and then I'm going to circle back to why I brought 9 00:00:58,159 --> 00:01:02,039 that up. But there's one girl who's her whole thing is that she's thirty 10 00:01:02,079 --> 00:01:07,480 one, and she said that she feels old. So this other girl who 11 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:11,280 we like, he's like, you're not old. Like that's ridiculous, Like 12 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,560 if you're old, then I'm old to like we're all old. And so 13 00:01:17,799 --> 00:01:22,760 the girl didn't like that because she wanted her feelings validated. She was like, 14 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,400 that invalidated my feelings. So then another girl was like, you don't 15 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:30,239 come. Another girl was like, you don't come for my girl. This 16 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,120 girl's name is Medina, the one that feels old. She goes, you 17 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,680 don't come for Medina. So this girl Maria who said who was like we're 18 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:41,159 all old? Then like that's crazy, like you're not old. That girl 19 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,959 was like wait, what did I do wrong? And she's like, you 20 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,280 came for my friend, like you didn't validate her feelings. And so the 21 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:51,480 girl Maria's like, oh my god, what are you talking about. That's 22 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:57,120 that's crazy. So then the girl who's stirring up the trouble goes to talk 23 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,920 to the girl who's like, I feel old and says, there's a girl 24 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:06,920 who's saying that you're not old. Wow. She whiles up the first girl 25 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,639 who's like, oh, she's saying I'm not old. Wow, that's that 26 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:15,319 really invalidates my feelings. Oh. So then the girl Maria that we like 27 00:02:15,439 --> 00:02:19,319 goes finds out that this shit is being said about her. She goes to 28 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,479 talk to Medina, who were calling funky cold Medina and says, I'm sorry, 29 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:29,240 but who told you that? I said you're not old? But first 30 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,360 of all, you're not old, like I was saying it in a nice 31 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:35,719 way, like if you're old, we're all old. We're all around the 32 00:02:35,719 --> 00:02:38,840 same age, like, and she's she's like, I'm not going to tell 33 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,680 you. I'm not going to tell you who told me. And she's like, 34 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,520 well why not, Like, just tell me who said it, but 35 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,199 so I can talk to that person and straighten this out. And she's like, 36 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,560 no, I'm not going to tell you. So later she says to 37 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,159 the bachelor, a girl who I'm not going to say her name, but 38 00:02:53,439 --> 00:02:58,759 was was. I felt bullied because she kept asking me for the name of 39 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,639 the person who told on her. And this is very ridiculous. Doster's just 40 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:08,159 like okay. And then and then the other girl says, this girl Maria 41 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:14,639 verbally attacked me. She made me feel terrible. She really hurt my feelings. 42 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:21,039 She came for me. Those people in their twenties saying, well, 43 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:23,000 well there, one of them is named after a cocktail from the eighties. 44 00:03:27,759 --> 00:03:31,039 Yeah, like I I don't know. It's who is the bachelor this year? 45 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:39,360 Joey and Joey Grazian And he's a tennis tennis Yeah he's really cute, 46 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,520 but he has no personality, but it's pretty fun to make fun of. 47 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:46,960 And then what happened with the Golden wedding. Does that did that happen? 48 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:52,159 That already happened? Yeah, I missed it. Yeah, Gary's married to 49 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:58,439 Teresa. Spoiler alert, okay to pick Terresa, Sorry if you're behind right. 50 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Yeah. So and was that how was that? Was there any drama? 51 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,439 I was just not really, That's why I missed it. But anyway, 52 00:04:06,599 --> 00:04:11,800 on our podcast, we were laughing about the idea of marking yourself safe 53 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:17,279 from the California rain, like that's what pussies we are, like, oh, 54 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:24,160 we're like marking ourselves safe. And because so Cecily did a thing on 55 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:27,639 Facebook where it invited me to like mark myself safe, I saw that and 56 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:30,720 she was just messing with she said, she was just joking because it's so 57 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,839 dumb, right right, It's like, yes, a couple of things have 58 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:36,920 happened to people, but their fluke things like somebody got hit by a falling 59 00:04:36,959 --> 00:04:42,839 tree, right, It's not like our houses are getting like washed away in 60 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,160 the storm. Yeah. So there was evacuations like in Tapanga. I was 61 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:54,199 with an Italian and Malibu on Sunday. We were driving down pch long story 62 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,879 while we were there on the day of the storm. But I'll tell you 63 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,120 later. But we're driving and all of a sudden, you ge aren't on 64 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,680 the phone, and it's like, if you're into Panga Canyon, you need 65 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,040 to evacuate. It was one of the streets into Panga Canyon. You need 66 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:12,560 to evacuate right now, Like, grab your medication and your pets and your 67 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,279 loved ones and get the fuck out. And Natali and I were like, 68 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:19,160 oh my god. And we were right by PC so we missed. We're 69 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,800 right by to Panga Kang but we missed. Luckily, we're already on our 70 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,920 way home, and we missed the bulk of the rain because it didn't start 71 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,920 raining yet. But yeah, then I get the text from people like are 72 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,439 you okay right right right? I'm like, yeah, I'm in my pajamas. 73 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:42,199 We had a fire. We were watching TV. Yeah. Then did 74 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,199 your school get closed? Now? Sold yours? Yeah? It's so dramatic 75 00:05:46,439 --> 00:05:50,879 with our school. So we're not part of LAUSD, and normally we follow 76 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,800 everything that LAUSD follows, so we keep getting these texts and emails and they're 77 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,480 like, listen, as of right now, we're following LAUSD's protocols. So 78 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,639 if they're open for school tomorrow, we're open for school. If they close, 79 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:10,759 were closed. Well, but then we get that alert saying that stay 80 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:15,040 off the roads in this ra the one that was like, do not drive, 81 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:19,600 do not be out on the streets unless you are evacuating. So we're 82 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:24,319 all sitting there going okay, well, I don't know, and the alert 83 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:28,680 was the warning was through nine am the following day. Well, so we 84 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,439 would have to drive the kids to school at eight am, right, So 85 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,600 we're like, well, that's weird. Why isn't LAUSD shutting down? And 86 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:40,879 so we're waiting and waiting, and we're like, well, I guess they're 87 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,759 expecting us to and our streets, our particular street that we live on, 88 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:53,319 gets very flooded when it rains like these. The rain goes up to the 89 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,639 sidewalk, but briefly only during the worst parts of the rain, and then 90 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,519 as soon as it slows down, it trains. Yea. Anyway, so 91 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,759 we were like, okay, that's weird. And then that night we got 92 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:09,360 a nut. We got like four more texts and an email and they're like, 93 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:12,920 schools closed. No. The next morning they said, even though LAUSD 94 00:07:13,079 --> 00:07:16,519 is still open, we're closing because a lot of our teachers and our students 95 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:23,560 live in places that are impacted and under only drive if you're being evacuated warning. 96 00:07:23,839 --> 00:07:26,959 But laus T stayed open. Yeah, so did we. I know. 97 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,839 But one of Sadie's friends who is at LAUSD, it's like her closest 98 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:36,839 friend was texting our pictures from the classroom and there were like two kids. 99 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:44,199 Oh really, which I understand. And it's irresponsible to have the buses driving 100 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:47,879 kids from far away in during like I now leave your house. Yeah, 101 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:51,439 yeah, I know. I remember when I was bussed and we would I 102 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:57,560 just remember getting soaked because the like just being by the bus stop and just 103 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,560 the streets in LA, the streets get just so flooded. But yeah, 104 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,120 I remember, I know, I remember being stuck. I really remember being 105 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:11,040 stuck on the freeway one day and not getting home till close to six o'clock 106 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:13,639 at night because it was pouring rain in Los Angeles. Yeah, and I 107 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:16,480 think about that now. Yeah, Like you're right, what about these you 108 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:20,160 know, these kids that gets stuck in traffic and stuff like it's yeah, 109 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,240 but people are always saying that people in LA do not know how to drive. 110 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:28,240 They dimes and I include and I'm one of those people. Like, 111 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:31,840 first of all, I only I don't like to drive faster than fifty seven 112 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:37,639 miles power on the freeway in perfect weather conditions. That's a very specific number, 113 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,720 fifty seven. It's weird because John and John makes fun of me because 114 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,840 he's like, I'm driving fifty seven. You're perfect, like perfect, so 115 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,440 like traffic to me is a blessing, and I'm like, good, nobody 116 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,960 can speak. The speed limit is usually sixty five, yes, right speed 117 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:54,120 limit is sixty five, So I'm that asshole that's like, why is this 118 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:58,879 person driving so slow? But I will do everybody a favor and stay in 119 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:01,600 the right lane. I'm not sure ye drive fifty seven in the fast lane. 120 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,480 I don't like to drive in the fast lane anyway, right. You 121 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:09,879 know why because I'm too close to that center divide and I cannot imagine how 122 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:15,080 people don't like hit that thing all the time. So listen when it's raining, 123 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:18,200 I find that I see that as an invitation to drive twenty five. 124 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,600 My god, I'm sure it tortures people. I'm sure I'm one of those 125 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:28,000 people that they're like, why is she's driving so slow? And I'm like, 126 00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:33,320 guys, weather conditions, she gets some kind of bumper sticker on the 127 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,200 back of your car, like this car suffers from road anxiety or something. 128 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:46,200 Yes, kind like like they have for student drivers. Yeah, yeah, 129 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:50,960 kind students just have a say, student driver, just leave it back and 130 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,799 put a baby on board sticker on the back, just you know, because 131 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:56,000 why not, Yeah, just put all of them on there. Yeah, 132 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,159 super driver, whatever reason that you could give me some grace, Like, 133 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:07,919 understand, I should not be behind the wheel. The only thing I'm not 134 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:13,000 is a drunk driver. That's the only thing going for imagine, imagine the 135 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:18,279 anxiety that's the drinking plus like value. We should say hi to our peeps. 136 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,240 We really should. We're already like ten minutes into our show, so 137 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,440 it's I'm already having a really good time. Let us when when an extra 138 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:30,799 day goes by, I miss you guys. I'm like, well, I 139 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,240 know we should cancel because of the road conditions and because Kaylin's driving from Long 140 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:39,039 Beach, but like, I know, I'm gonna be bored. Yeah all 141 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:45,919 right, Ashley, she's so chic. Yeah, Alicia Kelly, he's your 142 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:56,360 aunt, so hot. Gabby and Missy so flip flops in the rain. 143 00:10:56,519 --> 00:11:03,440 In the rain. They had a sailboat going down Ventura boulevard that they made. 144 00:11:03,039 --> 00:11:07,840 Katerina's checking that moler Yep, Valerie, Bubba Fenwick, Polly, We 145 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:13,679 love your pancakes, Athena, we love your dancing. Elizabeth Williamson. Love 146 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:20,039 all your kids except for the one Rita rocks. All of Elizabeth's kids except 147 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,519 for the one in her Basonette. Jacob is growy. Leslie is a costing. 148 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,679 Oh still, she's just and somebody gave her an umbrella so that she 149 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,720 could stay dry exactly exactly. She was like, well, there's still people 150 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:37,840 shopping at Ikea. I got some some targets, Nikki, call your girl. 151 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:43,039 Aaron, who is not Anna faris Katie rolling on? Nanny Amy's a 152 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:50,440 cunt. Kelly La Di Da Dia, Wanta Hershey bar share bear. Stephanie's 153 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:56,320 a stinker wrinker. Leslie is also coughing still, but I understand because COVID 154 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:03,320 is making a comeback. Ragings the funo. Aaron is the dirty Sanchez. 155 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:05,320 Jennifer, get up, Sandra, it's not easy being green and Christal you 156 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:15,120 make me one strew. But so I have been glued to this trial, 157 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:20,159 Jennifer Crumbly trial for two reasons. For one, it's pretty interesting because it's 158 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:26,320 a it's the first time parents are getting charged with something, and maybe I 159 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,759 should do a little trigger because it is about you know, school shootings, 160 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:35,960 and it is a tragic situation. But so there's the story of the trial 161 00:12:37,039 --> 00:12:41,399 and what happened, and and you know what situation talking about. So I'm 162 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,919 talking about in Michigan, take about twenty twenty one, November thirtieth, this 163 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:52,240 fifteen year old boy, his last name is Crumbly, went to high school 164 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:58,919 and and shot, like shot about seven I think to ten people now listen, 165 00:12:58,919 --> 00:13:03,960 I'm no you know, court analysis, but so don't get you know, 166 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,360 I'm just was you know, I've been watching a lot of clips and 167 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,360 watched the whole thing. But anyway, so shot but killed four students, 168 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:16,840 okay, okay, ranging in the age of fourteen to seventeen, and some 169 00:13:16,919 --> 00:13:22,919 of them were killed at point blank. So and he was writing, now 170 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,120 he already I'll get to what he was doing. But he already was convicted 171 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,879 and is in jail the rest of his life. And one of the reasons 172 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:35,240 why he didn't he didn't kill himself after is because he wanted to see the 173 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,399 aftermath of what happened, of what he created. So this kid, he 174 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:45,039 was fifteen, he was pretty disturbed and he was showing signs of having in 175 00:13:45,039 --> 00:13:52,240 a mental crisis. So he Now the parents are on trial because because of 176 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:58,320 what the police found right away after the shooting from social media accounts. I'm 177 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,720 sure people remember the mom posted a picture of a nine millimeter gun on Instagram 178 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:09,840 and said, you know, his new Christmas present and also uh mother mother 179 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,919 son day at the shooting range, took him shooting, and then he was 180 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:20,240 posting videos of his new look at my new gift and whatever. So now 181 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:28,679 the parents are being charged with negligent manslaughter, so involuntary manslaughter. So I 182 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:35,279 believe like they had this, Like did they So it was he because he 183 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,480 was a minor? Yeah, to give him a gun? Well yes, 184 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:41,480 is that part? What part of the part of it? But they said 185 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:45,279 they didn't give him the gun. They bought it for him for to use 186 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,360 at the shooting range. But what and that's their defense, that's their defense. 187 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:54,000 Well, they have several and it's they're not being tried at the same 188 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,919 time. So she's the mom's on trial first, so and then they're also 189 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:05,120 saying that that uh that they wait, what was the question so was it 190 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:11,360 an assault weapon. It was a nine millimeter handgun automatic, a semi automatic 191 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:15,360 handgun, so which are not legal, right in the state of Michigan. 192 00:15:15,399 --> 00:15:18,440 It's it's legal. And one of the things too, that's one of the 193 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,440 things that were as a country trying that the right and the most people want 194 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:31,159 those semi automatic weapons band Right, this was a handgun, right, it's 195 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,480 a nine still semi automatic, right, yeah, yeah, and it holds 196 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:37,679 like nine I don't know, shots or something like that, right, So 197 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,279 they but it's not illegal in the state of Michigan. So the dad, 198 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,840 the dad bought it. So now the mom is pointing fingers, you know, 199 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:48,840 basically like the dad bought it, I don't know much about guns, 200 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,720 blah blah blah, which the defense kind of proved a little bit like, 201 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,440 yeah, she was at a shooting range. They sh had they showed the 202 00:15:56,519 --> 00:16:00,320 video at the shooting range, and the sun is basically showing the mom how 203 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,240 to use the gun like she didn't, you know. So there's so there's 204 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,960 a lot of you know, there's a lot of different layers to this story. 205 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,720 But the reason why that that the police were onto them pretty quickly is 206 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:17,600 because that day it was in the news that they went to the school that 207 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,919 morning because they had a meeting. So a couple of days before the shooting, 208 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:27,120 the kid was looking up bullets online in the class, and the the 209 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:33,639 teacher called the parents, and instead of the mom saying like, you know, 210 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:37,279 what's going on whatever, the mom sent a text to the to her 211 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,879 son and said like something like this, Yeah, lol, I'm not mad. 212 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:45,519 You just need to be careful not to get caught, you know. 213 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:48,399 Okay, So that was a couple of days before the shooting. Then they 214 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,120 go to the shooting range. Then, you know, so he must have 215 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,559 ordered him Amazon because he got him quick if he was looking up bullets. 216 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:59,080 Oh, he didn't get the he didn't get the bullets. They bought the 217 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,840 bullets. The parents bought the bullets. Oh, because they went them and 218 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,440 they took to the thing. Because they bought them the gun. They bought 219 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,640 the bullets. They took them to the shooting range. They went to the 220 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,880 shooting range a couple days before the shooting. The other thing was then one 221 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:18,519 of the things you might remember is the morning of the shooting, they the 222 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:22,319 kid was on his worksheet drawing a picture of the actual gun that they gave 223 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,839 him a picture of that gun, like drawing blood, saying stuff like blood 224 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:36,640 everywhere, like like help me, you know, just different things like this. 225 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,000 So they called the parents and they said again, now you guys need 226 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:44,079 to come to the school. We need to have a meeting. The mom 227 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,079 sends a text to the dad a picture of the drawings and said emergency, 228 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,200 I'm going to the school right now. She goes to the school, The 229 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:56,599 dad goes to the school. They have a meeting for about ten to fifteen 230 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,960 minutes. The mom even tells the mom is the breadwood. The dad is 231 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,720 a door dash driver, so he his job's pretty flexible. The mom works 232 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,359 like mark, I don't know what she she works in, like real estate 233 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,319 marketing something, and she's got a flexible job where she can work from home. 234 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:17,720 The boss lets her like make her own hours. So she tells the 235 00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:21,680 boss, I'll be back soon. Okay. So she's already in her brain 236 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:25,119 linging this is nothing, I'm gonna I'll be back soon. Right, goes 237 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,839 to the school, meets with the school for ten to fifteen minutes. The 238 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:32,960 school testifies like she was pretty cold to the you know, to her, 239 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,839 like she acted inconvenienced. She didn't hug her son. They sat in the 240 00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:41,519 office with the backpack that had the gun and the bullets in it. Nobody 241 00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:47,799 knew he brought the gun to school the day of the day of the shooting. 242 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:52,519 In the morning, he was caught drawing that stuffing. I know about 243 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:56,119 the picture, but they also found a gun on him. Well, nobody 244 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,839 found a gun till after the shooting. The kid goes to the meeting. 245 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:03,799 He's his gun, he's preparing. He made a video the night before, 246 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:07,680 I'm gonna kill people tomorrow at school. Where was the video posted? I 247 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:11,160 don't think he posted it. He just made it like a manifesto thing, 248 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,200 Okay, And so they So the mom comes to the school and what she 249 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:21,039 only knows is that he's made these drawings about kids saying help help, and 250 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:23,200 no one knows that. Meanwhile, he has a gun with him, right, 251 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:26,880 the school doesn't. So a lot of people are like, why didn't 252 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,759 the school blah blah blah. But the school didn't know that they just bought 253 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:34,039 him a gun days before, right, So they're the schools like, this 254 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,680 is already disturbing that you're making these pictures and we don't even know that you 255 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,680 have a gun, right, got it? Okay, but the parents know 256 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:44,200 he has a gun, of course. Okay, So what happens. They 257 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,480 go to the meeting. They're there for like ten to fifteen minutes. She's 258 00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:51,640 acting very like, you know, inconvenience right, and kind of cold, 259 00:19:52,799 --> 00:19:56,440 you know, detached, and they they say to the school, says, 260 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,279 here's a list of therapists you have about twenty four to forty eight You need 261 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:06,039 to get this kid therapy, like into therapy. He needs to be seen 262 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:11,160 by somebody professional twenty four to forty eight hours. And also do you want 263 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,480 to take him home for the day? And they decided, well, the 264 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:18,960 parents said no, we got to work. Meanwhile, he's a DoorDash driver. 265 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:22,039 She's got flexible hours and doesn't have to go back to work, right, 266 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,839 but they decide as like, the school decides, well, he's been 267 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,200 lonely, his grandma died, he's been depressed. I think she might have 268 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:33,720 told the school of this part. She didn't tell the school a lot of 269 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:37,480 stuff. But his dog died recently, his best friend, his only like 270 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:44,200 real close friend, just moved away suddenly, and his grandma died, So 271 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,519 he's been in a funk. Okay, so they say, like basically, 272 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,400 since he doesn't want to be lonely and it's good for him to be around 273 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,039 his peers, let him stay at school. So they decide to let him 274 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:00,880 stay at school. Then that day, couplet like hour and a half later, 275 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,200 he's shooting up to school. So that's that's what happens to that bit. 276 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:10,599 Okay, So that's why the mom and dad are on trial. Yes, 277 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:17,200 pretty much. So it's involuntary manslaughter that they're facing up to fifteen years 278 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,920 and this trial is going on. It's going on. But I got more 279 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,599 to tell you. Let's talk about something. Let's take a mental break for 280 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,559 a moment and talk about something we love, which is Quints. 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That's neutrofol dot com promo code fc Okay. So basically, so 322 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,640 they they the kid does the shooting, right, and then what happens is 323 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,119 then the parents go on the lamb. Do you remember this? No, 324 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,680 this is all new to me. I mean it's yes, it's really interesting. 325 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,559 So what happens is is okay, so they find out there the school, 326 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,640 so they both go back to work. Then they hear like, there's 327 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,920 a there's a shooting going on at Oxford High School. So the and they're 328 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,559 probably like, what a coincidence? Right? Well kind of, so the 329 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,200 dad sends I think the dad sends a text to her or they call each 330 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,960 other or what and they they're like, holy shit. And the dad runs 331 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,160 home and says the gun is gone, and the and they're the bullets are 332 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,799 gone, and this is them texting each other. Yeah, they have this, 333 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,880 they have this. Yes, so the gun is gone. And what 334 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:40,480 the mom does is and also the son some doesn't really say I love you 335 00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:44,400 to the mom very much. She tested She went on the stand and testified, 336 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,960 by the way, and she said that she looked at her phone after 337 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,200 she there was a shooting and it said mom. It said something like I 338 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,039 love you sorry, something like that, and she wrote back, ethan, 339 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:03,240 don't do it, is what she said. So she they knew something that 340 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:07,319 this Okay. The other thing is now it come to find out that this 341 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,960 kid was in a mental crisis for a while. He was writing to in 342 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,039 his journal saying like I beg my mom to go to a therapist, to 343 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:19,599 go to see a doctor. She just laughs at me. My dad tells 344 00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:23,000 me to suck it up. So it's just the it's just the three of 345 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:27,400 them living in the home, okay. And so it's the two of them 346 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,759 now. In the meantime of all this, too, the prosecution is going 347 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:37,240 she is distracted and wasn't paying attention to her son because she's having an affair. 348 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,759 So she was having an affair Osha, which came out. She's also 349 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:45,720 obsessed with horses, and she was at the horse stables constantly and not they're 350 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:48,599 trying to say was not with her son and blah blah blah blah blah, 351 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,880 which I mean all of us moms. You know what if somebody was like 352 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,839 she was. Stephanie was really into playing threes on her phone like you right 353 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,559 now, a lot of times she could have been with her kids. It's 354 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,519 like in her room listening to podcast. So there's I'm giving you a lot 355 00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:07,400 of the prosecution. It's evidence, but I'll tell you what the defense is. 356 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,640 Evidence they had, you know, they had a The defense is I 357 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:18,119 feel like has better proof than like she didn't really spend a lot of time 358 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,880 with her kid, yes, high school. Right, So so they're they're 359 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,559 saying all this, all this is coming out, Okay, there's they're showing 360 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:32,559 off why I'm producing like journals right these writing of the journals, Like he's 361 00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:36,279 saying, like, you know, I need help. Uh he There's text 362 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,960 messages of him texting his parents like when are you going to come home? 363 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:45,079 It's late and I'm scared the house. There's a demon in the house. 364 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,559 There's there's ditch dishes flying off the shelves. I took a picture, I 365 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:52,759 took video of the demon. Now, also, the defense is saying, 366 00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:56,920 that's good that you buy a gun for your kid who sees exactly and flying 367 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,559 off the shelves, right, that's good, that's evidence. Right, So 368 00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:06,240 so she's saying, so there's there's all this going on, like he's in 369 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,440 a mental crisis, and she's saying like her kind of defense is like, 370 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,640 well, we're as a family. We joke around, Like there's a video. 371 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:17,440 I think that when it first happened, there was video on Facebook of 372 00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:22,000 like her playing like pranks on her son. Like, for instance, they 373 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,319 were playing with the Ouiji board, her his his son, her son and 374 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,400 his friend playing Ouigi board and she flipped the breakers, so all the lights 375 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,599 in the house go off to scare the shit out of them. And it's 376 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,200 like and she's joking and she's video so it's like it's a little bit funny. 377 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,039 It's you know, it depends like how you you know what I mean 378 00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:48,000 in this grand scheme of things, No, not funny, right, if 379 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:52,519 that was an isolated incident, we'd be like exactly, well, I'm you 380 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,240 know, I'm not like, of course parents play jokes on their kids and 381 00:28:56,359 --> 00:29:00,440 whatever, and depends everybody's No, this is terrible. To get me wrong, 382 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,240 I'm comfortab Now I'm making a little don't worry, I'm bringing a little 383 00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:08,000 levity to the fact that, like, why are you letting your kid play 384 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,160 with Uiji board? Who's telling you there's demons in the house in the first 385 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,839 place? Obviously, right, Well, the timeline also, she says, 386 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,079 she says she did not know about well, she knows about him seeing demons 387 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,039 and stuff because she was he was texting it to her. But as far 388 00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:26,240 as him saying, I need help, I want to go to a doctor, 389 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,160 I want to I want to kill people, I'm I'm lost, you 390 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,000 know all these things that he was saying. She uh said that that she 391 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:40,039 just found out during the investigation. So now back to the day of the 392 00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:44,400 shooting, the police are like, okay, they start to you know, 393 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,759 find out there was a meeting that day with the parents, so what what 394 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,319 the fuck? Why didn't the parents take the kid home? Now it's like, 395 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,079 you know, Monday morning quarterback and going on like, well, what 396 00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:57,440 the fuck? Like this he had a gun in his backpack. Nobody looked, 397 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,799 Why didn't anybody look in the howk the parents didn't look in the backpack? 398 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,920 Like? How come the parents didn't go? You didn't you don't have 399 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,759 whor'se the gun? Like? You know? And by how come the parents 400 00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:11,000 didn't look in the backpack? First of all? How can the parents didn't 401 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:15,720 lock the gun up? Like that's the thing. Well, they didn't lock 402 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:22,000 the gun. Yes, now that's negligence, that's involuntary manslaughter. So why 403 00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:26,240 although are their laws that you have to lock your guns up in the state 404 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:32,319 of Michigan. I think that it. I think there is. I well, 405 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,039 if there's children in the home, I don't know. I mean it's 406 00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:40,000 finers miners, I would think, you know, I mean I was brought 407 00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,680 up with gun safety and I was I was not even allowed to tell friends 408 00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:48,039 that we have guns. That was like a family secret because then somebody can 409 00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:49,480 like want to look for the guns or like, you know, it was 410 00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:53,000 like, we don't you know? Gun safety? One oh one is you 411 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:59,000 lock the guns and you don't give and you don't give the kid the password 412 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,920 to the fucking lot again, the listeners was saying on Facebook, they were 413 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,079 commenting about this, and I didn't know the whole story. I just know 414 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,160 that they were somebody posted about the Jennifer crumbly are you guys watching it? 415 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,680 And one of our listeners, Norm was talking about raising his kids having guns 416 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,559 in the house or whatever, and that their big thing was it only is 417 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:25,279 brought for the gun range or whatever, and also that they're locked up. 418 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:30,279 And then they have like a system. There's like a camera, like there's 419 00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,839 a they get an alert on their phone if somebody's even around where the guns 420 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:40,039 were kept, right, and there's a it's a combination lock and nobody has 421 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:42,759 the combination except for but even if you're trying to like fuck around over there, 422 00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,359 Yeah, they get alerted. My idea just from a quick Google search, 423 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:52,799 I saw that Michigan past legislation that would require gun owners to keep weapons 424 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,640 in safes or lock containers in twenty twenty three, and this shooting happened in 425 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,680 twenty twenty one, so it doesn't sound like there was any laws like that 426 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:05,480 at the time, and then it took two years to even get that right 427 00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:10,599 legislation right, right, Yeah, okay, So so so the parents are 428 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,960 now like, so the police do go to their house find them, you 429 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,640 know, question them. Then the other thing too, like I was like, 430 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,680 they go to the police station, the kids there, the parents like, 431 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:29,240 don't the mom doesn't, like she's kind of cold, and I think 432 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,839 that the kid obviously has mental issues. I think the mom's a little like, 433 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,039 you know, she's got some something she did. She's not very emotional. 434 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,720 She probably would have paid attention to him if he was a horse, 435 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,519 probably, but she does say I'm that kind of person. I'm not. 436 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:50,519 I'm a plan or something. Crisis is in crisis, I plan like you 437 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,519 know how what what? You know? What? What? What are we 438 00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:55,519 going to? Like she goes into survival mode. She's not like a crier 439 00:32:55,759 --> 00:33:02,160 or whatever. Everybody handles tragedies different anyway, She basically just says on the 440 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:08,119 video like why to him, and then the cops like kind of get like 441 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:12,119 like put get them out of the room, and the dad's going, I 442 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,880 love you, I love you, I love you, as the parent, 443 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,319 as the parent, as the police are getting the parents out of the room. 444 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:21,640 Anyway, so they're they're questioned and then they're they're let go. But 445 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,880 then okay, so then they find out there's a press conference on the news 446 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,160 of the DA This blonde woman who knows her shit, and like she's all 447 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,680 business and she's like, we are going to be charging the parents with gross 448 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:44,240 negligence involuntary manslaughter, that this is something that could have been prevented. Blah 449 00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:45,920 blah blah. She's like, you know, the evidence is now coming out. 450 00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:52,400 This is like day after the shooting or whatever. So the parents in 451 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,200 the defense, According to defense, the parents are getting death threats. Now 452 00:33:55,559 --> 00:34:01,119 people know where they live, there's there's protest of their house on their street 453 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,839 whatever. So they go through the banks, pull out cash, get their 454 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,840 shit, their zanis and their booze, and hit the road. And so 455 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,480 now they're kind of like gone by the way. Can I just ask one 456 00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:19,960 question? Yeah, what about the school, Like the school had all these 457 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,079 warning signs and they just let the kids stay in school, Like, how 458 00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,400 come they're not in trouble. Well, that's a good question. Trying to 459 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,039 stand up for their parents. I'm just saying, like, no, that's 460 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,440 true that the school. I think the school failed as well. However, 461 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,599 the school did not have the background information that the parents had. The school 462 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,639 did not know that he just got a gun and then he had access to 463 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:43,159 a gun. The school did not know that he was seeing demons. They 464 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,280 didn't see his journal, they didn't see text messages. All they know is 465 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:52,000 that he was searching for bullets online and then he draws this disturbing picture. 466 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,840 They don't know he's depressed and that he's crying out for mental health. So, 467 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,280 you know, and in their defense, guess they thought it'd be better 468 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,679 for him to stay at school that day and be with friends rather than just 469 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,000 go home and be alone. Well, the parents are at work, so 470 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:12,519 you know, but the parents knew. The parents had a better idea of 471 00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,519 what was going on. This great, so yeah, so then they go 472 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:21,599 on. So then they they go So the police take their phones, and 473 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,519 they were interviewing the detective and they said, when you asked for her phone, 474 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:30,280 Jennifer Crumley's phone, did she give it to you voluntarily? And he 475 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,159 said no, she did not want to give me the phone. She put 476 00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,920 up kind of an argument, and he said, we're going to get the 477 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,920 phone anyway, you might as well just give it to me. Well, 478 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,559 the herd thing was like, but I need phone numbers, and he said, 479 00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:44,119 well, here's a piece of paper, write down all the phone numbers, 480 00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:46,079 then give me the phone. Then he gets the phone and then he's 481 00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:50,400 like what's the password, and she's like, I'm not giving it to you, 482 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,360 and the husband's like, just give it to them. They're going to 483 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,280 get it anyway. So she was kind of like kind of putting up this 484 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,880 fight, you know kind of thing. She was more they the prosecution thing. 485 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,719 She was more concerned about getting back to work that day. She also 486 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,199 called her boss like am I still gonna have a job? You know about 487 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:12,679 the horses that she was taken care of. So she was more concerned about 488 00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:17,119 a lot of other things. She There was a comment that she made at 489 00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:22,239 the home, like when the detective was interviewing and she said a lot of 490 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,480 lives were ruined today, but his life is really like ruined. Like she 491 00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:30,719 was more concerned, like, you know, and all of our lives are 492 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,719 over now too, like we're fock. And she even put out on a 493 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,480 text to like somebody her boyfriend that she was seeing at the time, were 494 00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:42,280 fucked. We're on the run. So then they go get burner phones and 495 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,239 then they get to pull out money, They pull out cash, and they 496 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,599 go and stay at a hotel. Then they stay at another hotel and then 497 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:52,199 like within two or three days. They they get hold of their lawyer, 498 00:36:52,559 --> 00:37:00,559 their crackpot lawyer, which is another issue, and basically their there they are. 499 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,519 The defense is saying they're getting ready to turn themselves in on Saturday morning, 500 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,079 right in so but did they said? So? Then they go through 501 00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:12,159 the child did you set an alarm to go get turned in? You took 502 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,719 like four they took four xanaxes the night of. So they're now they're staying, 503 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,400 I'd need a lot of xenx too, right, fuck the sobriety, 504 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,840 yeah, I'd be like, these are extenuating circumstances. I don't even think 505 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,159 this counts as a slip, right, It's just necessary. Right, So 506 00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:30,320 they go, Okay, so they go on the lamb. They stay so 507 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,920 then they get a hold of a friend and she says, you could stay 508 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,400 at like our art studio in an industrial area, right, So they go 509 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,840 to all like they go to like miles away Detroit, I don't know, 510 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,000 somewhere an industrial area. They get the keys, they go to this building 511 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,920 and they just basically camp out there and they're going to turn themselves in. 512 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:54,239 Well, some good Samaritan sees that the car is there because they're on the 513 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,639 news, like this is the car they're driving. This license plate, sees 514 00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:04,639 it calls the police. Within minutes, it's surrounded by swat FBI and they 515 00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:08,000 bust in and she's passed out on them like a mattress. She's not even 516 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:12,199 it's like she's taking a nap. And there's like tons of cops and they're 517 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,639 going, you know, swat FBI, put your hands up. She's just 518 00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:22,239 like like laying there on the because she was passed out of Yeah, depends 519 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,760 if they're a quarter milligram, no, but if they like a milligram each, 520 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,079 yeah, you're gonna be taking a good nap, yes, and booze 521 00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:32,760 and also not sleeping for the last couple of days. So yeah, and 522 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,920 then they got they got arrested, and now that now she's now the jury's 523 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,239 deliberating, So then were they in jail after that? Then they went to 524 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,159 jail. They haven't spoken in two years, the husband and wife. They're 525 00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:50,320 still married, but they haven't they haven't been like they So she takes the 526 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,119 stand so you can go online watch her. And the prosecution is a guy 527 00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:59,079 and a girl, a woman and a man, and they're they're nailing it 528 00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:01,400 like they're doing a In my opinion, they're doing a great job presenting the 529 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:08,840 evidence. Are very serious. Now this defense attorney should should we do another 530 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,320 ad break though really quick and then you can tell me about that. So 531 00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:21,719 let us talk about I'm sorry old please. Well, oh we just got 532 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,119 a verdict just came on mind phone. Oh my gosh. Okay, let's 533 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:29,920 talk about trust and will. Talk about planning. 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Okay? 585 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,800 Oh he's in jail. Okay. So she has a partner, okay, 586 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,400 And for some reason, this partner has not been on this trial the 587 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,039 whole time, so she's been alone by herself. Now, I highly recommend 588 00:43:54,159 --> 00:44:00,800 like just looking up Jennifer Crumley's attorney, Shannon Smith's Great Tits, because it's 589 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,719 all over the Internet, like social media, to the point where in her 590 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:12,559 closing arguments she addresses the fact that she's a mess on TikTok. She she 591 00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:15,840 says, this is what she says she on the way to court. This 592 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,400 is her opening statements on the way to court. She blasted Taylor Swift to 593 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,880 calm her nerves and to get her voice going for her closing arguments. And 594 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,400 there's a line in one of the songs that summarizes what this case is about. 595 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,039 She says it says she says band aids don't stop bullet holes, which 596 00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:37,559 I guess she got that line wrong as well. But she's saying, like 597 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,199 that is what the prosecutors are saying, that this is what this case is 598 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,760 all about. What the fuck does that mean? She is? So she 599 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,000 is like an SNL skit. Okay, some of her other greatest hits. 600 00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:55,679 Is she she she well, she would say, she's saying it's not gonna 601 00:44:55,679 --> 00:45:00,360 help solve this by these parents in jail. The band aids right, right, 602 00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:05,679 bad bad use of like don't stop bullet holes. Yes, yeah. 603 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,039 So so then another thing is is during court she can't figure out how to 604 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:14,960 do the the the putting things up onto the screen, you know, and 605 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:17,679 technology, she's very bad and she makes no bones about it. She's not 606 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,400 good with technology, and you know, I'd be having the same problem. 607 00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:25,639 I'd be like, can I bring my husband? Yeah? Right, So 608 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,119 she goes she's says in court, she goes, oh my god, she's 609 00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:31,440 trying to do it, and she's like all flustered, and she goes, 610 00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:36,480 I just want to kill myself. She says no, yes, and the 611 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:43,039 the prosecute prosecuting attorneys are like, oh what what hold on? Like we 612 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:47,119 have victims families in the courtroom, like can we have some decorum? Okay. 613 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,239 Then another time, I guess they were showing video at the school and 614 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,519 every there was in a dry eye, and I guess the defense she started 615 00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:01,960 crying and she was wiping her tears, and the prosecution after the jury left, 616 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,840 I think, at some point said, look, your instructions, judge 617 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,599 was when this trial is to not try not to show emotion, even though 618 00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:14,960 the judge says, I don't believe I said that because everybody's got emotion she 619 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,159 can't control. But she was said something to the effect like, let's like 620 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,039 control the emotions to both sides. And she's like to sit here and see, 621 00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:28,239 you know, the defense attorney like crying and blah blah blah blah blah, 622 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,320 and so she's getting like reamed out by the prosecute. She so the 623 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,119 defense Shannon Smith, her name is Shannon. She turns around to the galley 624 00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:40,440 and she wipes the tears with her middle fingers. She like goes, okay, 625 00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:44,440 So she turns her back to the judge, wipes her tears like that, 626 00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:47,119 yeah, then turns back around. And that's one of our other greatest. 627 00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:52,840 Then another grace of hers is she's sitting there and doesn't realize the MIC's 628 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:58,360 on right because they're broadcasting and she's talked texting into her phone and she's like 629 00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:05,239 order tank tops for jump or her tank tops go online, blah blah blah. 630 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,119 She's like, and then she goes. Then she turns around, she's 631 00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:08,599 like, the MIC's not on it. I mean, she is just like 632 00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:15,199 a bumbling And then there's another time where she's got her incense like essential oils 633 00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:20,480 that she takes her jacket off and she basically gives herself like a sponge bath 634 00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:23,119 with it and she's putting oil all over her and she's gonna and then she 635 00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:27,199 puts her jacket back on. Now, like a lot of this sounds like 636 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,760 so what, but when you're in this courtroom, and you're watching how the 637 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:36,400 prosecution is like all business and then you got this like then just the way 638 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,960 she okay, her closing arguments was just did a bag, she did a 639 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,239 bang up job, like just ripe for SNL. Like she was like, 640 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,559 so listen. The way she talks is so whiny, and she's got that 641 00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:55,000 like Michigan accent. So she's like, so, jury, I ask you. 642 00:47:55,559 --> 00:48:00,719 We're all parents. We all make mistakes. I have four kids. 643 00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:06,519 I barely have time to She's all about herself. Her closing arguments goes right 644 00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:10,039 in about her life, how I barely have time to get home, wipe 645 00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:15,760 my makeup off, make them top ramen for dinner. And then my daughter 646 00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:20,480 is a psycho. So do we call our daughter a psycho? Yes? 647 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,079 My husband says she's nuts, she needs to go to a looney bed, 648 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,119 and I said, I know, I just want to kill her. Like 649 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,320 she says these like saying these things, oh my god, like I don't 650 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,360 have time. And then she's like she was talking to the judge. At 651 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,920 one point she goes, I am here eight hours a day at court. 652 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:43,599 I'm by myself. I'm trying this case on my own. I'm getting reprimanded 653 00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:46,000 from the other side, like poor me, poor me. And then so 654 00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:51,559 the closing arguments was all about how she's a terrible mom and how she calls 655 00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:55,559 her kids psycho. Oh, and I had an oopsie baby too, because 656 00:48:55,639 --> 00:49:00,880 there was a whole thing in the trial about Jennifer Crumbley calling her son an 657 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,000 oopsie baby because I guess he was a mistake. So she's like, she's 658 00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:08,280 like, and I have I have three kids, and I was done. 659 00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:13,559 This is her closing arguments. I was done. And then what happened? 660 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,440 I had an oopsie baby too, and I refer to her as an oopsie 661 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:22,440 baby? So what so what does that make me a bad mom? Like 662 00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:27,239 she's just like the way God and she's taught, the way she talks her 663 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,880 cadence is just none the same way. And then she's like, I know, 664 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,639 I was on TikTok this week. She brings up being on TikTok during 665 00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:39,559 her closing arguments about how disorganized I am. Am I a perfect mom? 666 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:45,480 No? Am I a perfect lawyer? No? Is Jennifer Crumbly a perfect 667 00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:49,440 mom? No? Or are we any of us a perfect person? No? 668 00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:52,880 I mean that's like, that's her closing argument. Wow. I mean 669 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,679 there's I mean it just goes on and on, and I mean it's just 670 00:49:57,199 --> 00:50:01,400 it almost you feel like you're watching somebody that's maybe she's trying to like get 671 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:07,280 her like get them mistrial right right, you know she's gonna lose, yeah, 672 00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:09,519 to give them, but that can't look good for her law firm. 673 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:15,360 No, no, I don't think if I get that they had in in 674 00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:20,239 you know, bad counsel. Right. Oh, and then she says at 675 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,679 one point, she goes something like somebody says like, are you gonna go 676 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,679 have a bottle of wine this weekend after this weekend? She goes, I'm 677 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,079 gonna go have a five bottles of wine this weekend after this weekend. Yeah. 678 00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:36,119 And she's like, it's just like in the in talking about her daughter 679 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,920 wanting top ramen for dinner. And I'm not going to fall for it. 680 00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:43,840 So I tell her make your own dinner. And because she doesn't like the 681 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,280 top ramen that we have, we have eight. And then she goes, 682 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,360 we have eighty different flavors of top ramen. She goes, well, not 683 00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:53,239 eighty, but we have seven different flavor This is this bitch is closing arguments. 684 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,159 If I was Jennifer Krumley. I would be snapping a pencil right now, 685 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,559 wanting to throw it at her brain, like fucking shut up, like 686 00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:05,719 what do you do? Like how it was embarrassing and I love it. 687 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,880 That's her closing argument is like, yeah, is my client is a terrible 688 00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:13,199 bomb? But me too? Yeah, me too, aren't we all? 689 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,159 Like I'm a terrible lawyer. I don't know how to get my shit together. 690 00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:21,519 Yes, I am are an organ I'm unorganized. I'm only one person. 691 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,239 I am doing this by myself. It's like poor me, Like she's 692 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,239 the victim. She's throwing her counsel, her co counsel under the book. 693 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,119 Yes, like she she kept it. She referenced it many times, like 694 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,400 I'm just one person. There are two of them and it's just one of 695 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,079 me. Oh my god. So what's the verdict? Okay, so we 696 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:45,159 just now got uh yeah, what's the verdict in real time? Jennifer Crumbley 697 00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:52,719 guilty of manslaughter? Wow? She faces up to fifteen years. Only fifteen 698 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,800 years. That's so weird because I listened to a lot of crime stuff and 699 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,599 you can go to jail for life, right, he went to jail. 700 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,199 Yeah, this isn't you can, you absolutely can. You can go. 701 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,639 You can get like a sixty year sentence for like tampering with a with evidence. 702 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:17,719 So she's so trial no thanks to her attorney. So did he have 703 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:23,920 his The son had his trial, so he's without possibility of parole the rest 704 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,159 of his life. And now the dad's gonna go. And now the dad's 705 00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:29,679 going to trial, and he's got to think, I better have a better 706 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,880 attorney than this bitch. But now seeing that she's getting, you know, 707 00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:37,559 and this what the mom. She placed a lot of blame throughout the trial 708 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:43,719 on the dad, like basically like he you know, uh, he bought 709 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,000 the gun, he knows how to shoot, he to you know, like 710 00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:50,039 he researched the gun. Blah blah blah blah blah. She placed a lot 711 00:52:50,119 --> 00:52:52,519 of blame on him. Yeah. So well he doesn't exactly seem innocent. 712 00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:59,679 No, no, like they're both bad. Yeah. Wow, So she's 713 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,239 like more of the mastermind. I'm gonna go watch some of this girl. 714 00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:08,039 I can't wait. I bet there's highlights. Oh yeah, before we wrap, 715 00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:12,639 let's talk about Adam Lerner. He's a car broker. You've heard me 716 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,639 talk about him. You gotta use him my one of my friends just got 717 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:22,119 a car from him at Subaru out Back and she's thrilled and she said the 718 00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:27,199 experience working with him was great. Give him a call three one zero nine 719 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,840 nine eight seven zero four eight or go to Adam's got a car. If 720 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:37,559 you want to plan a trip, use Christine from storybook World Travel storybookworldtravel dot 721 00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:40,119 com. She plans all kinds of different trips, not just theme parks, 722 00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:44,920 and you can look her up on our Facebook page as well. The Family 723 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:50,719 Skeptical is a podcast about raising kids without religion, So check them out at 724 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,639 least, you know, download an episode. Check it out. Uh and 725 00:53:54,159 --> 00:54:01,920 Kelly from Wilmanfrida Always Wilman Freda. They have the best salmon, the salmon 726 00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:07,119 that was my Michigan accent. They have really good food. They're in Palm 727 00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:12,639 Springs and Palm Desert and ask for Kelly say hi to her, yeah, 728 00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,039 and then we'll do the rest on our Friday show. I also wanted to 729 00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:19,880 plug the new podcast that I'm working on. Oh Yeah, Bombfire Talks with 730 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,119 Mark Wahlberg, the Temptation Island host who was a guest on the show a 731 00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:27,599 few months ago. Stephanie Wilder Taylor is his guest this week. It was 732 00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:30,559 a great episode, so it was really fun. Yeah, you did it 733 00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:34,440 here and it's up on YouTube probably you know, it just comes out today, 734 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,440 so today or tomorrow as you're hearing this, so you can watch it 735 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,599 on YouTube or just download the episode on Bonfire Talks podcast anywhere you listen. 736 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:45,320 But also the reason another reason you should download it and give it a listen 737 00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:49,719 is because Kaylan is Mark's producer. That's right, and we need to show 738 00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:53,719 people that Kaylan is a great producer and that Mark has a great podcast. 739 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,719 We need to get him. Not only that, but he's doing it here 740 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,320 at Patrick's house too, and we're starting to try and build a little thing 741 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,119 here at Patrick so we get more podcasts out of here and make it a 742 00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:04,559 thing. So yeah, we want we want to build it up. Yay, 743 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,280 make it a thing. Our own press grew and c Yeah, make 744 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,719 it a thing. All right, Thank you everybody, Thanks Kaylen, love 745 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:19,280 you guys. It's your parent now, don't fit up. It's letting