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Made decision face sunny sum on I
hada n. So what's up everybody.

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It's our Thursday special guest episode and
we have Patrick, Kicky and studio from

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bad Tvo. Great to be here. That's early Monday morning. I want

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to thank Do you guys have a
name for your audience? We call ours

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the little Batties. Oh really,
that's cute, little batties. We call

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ours the no getters, the no
getters. I want to thank the no

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getters. This is like the eleventh
time I've been on this year and none

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of you have talked smack about me
in the Facebook because that would hurt my

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feelings. I know, and I
appreciate that. Everybody loves Patrick. Yeah,

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thanks nice, right, it's good
to be loved. That just heaps

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a bunch of love on Pat for
forty five minutes. Now, how long

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ago was it that we that the
I say, the four of us meaning

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you, Dylan, Me and Lynette
went to the reunion of Love is Blind.

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That was probably about that was April
of twenty twenty three, so that

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was probably what is that five months
ago? Right? Well? That's it?

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Yeah, because Love is Blind comes
at you fast and furious, doesn't

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it by the way to spoiler alert
for this episode. So if you don't

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want to know anything, if you're
not cut up on Love is Blind,

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you may want to not listen because
we're going to talk. Can we talk

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some Golden Bachelor too? Are you
guys watching that? Yes? I love

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that Chess. I'm covering it with
my partner Cecily on Rose Pricks on our

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Patreon. Well we got to do
that's a crossover then, yeah, well

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we are loving it. I haven't
watched The Bachelor in years, but I

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love him Bachelor? Yeah, Gary? Can we can we start with the

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Golden Bachelor? Yeah? Did you
know that had the biggest debut of The

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Bachelor in like five years, something
like over five million people on the first

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night watch that? So you'd hope
you hope Mickey Mouse and Disney understand.

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Also, it's one hour, right, Please learn from this? Yes,

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learn from it. I have theories
why it's a success, and I'm not

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sure how if you guys think about
it, it's obviously it's sweet. It's

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kind of different. But I've said
this on our recap of it. Why

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you watch this and why this show
is so popular for so many years?

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Was you believed the people were authentic
and they were here to find love right

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right, and then Instagram is invented, and then that kind of has you

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know, to play in this,
and then people come on they're not authentic.

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You kind of know the structure how
it's going to work. You realize

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they're going to break up. Three
months after they're at the altar. One

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of them is going to be on
Dancing with the Stars and then they you

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know, rinse and repeat and it's
over and over again. When they decided

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to cast older, the one thing
I love about my older people or my

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older friends is that they're more authentic
because they don't give a fuck, right,

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You don't give a fuck at two
points in your life when you're a

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four year old, when you were
a toddler, you'll tell people their breath

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smell and they're fat, ha ha. Who else does that? People older

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than sixty tell you, ah right, and they have no problem with it.

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So, just based on the authenticity
of the casting, I just I'm

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here for I love I love Gary. I'd like to know if he dated

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after his wife had passed. I'm
just curious of that because it's been six

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years. They don't share that it's
almost like this is the first time he's

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decided to he did, he must
have. I don't think his kids would

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have set him up to be on
a dating show if he'd never even put

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his toe back in right. I
think he probably dated a couple of people

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and was like, I don't know, I'm not it's not going to meet

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the person. And then they thought
of like, well, what if you

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had our dad's hot and he keeps
himself in shape and he's and viral.

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What if his kids knew he was
viral? He's like, guys, I

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can get it up on the right
listen every morning, still wake it up

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with. But yeah, I guess
it's sustain in the ratings. Our numbers

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are up doing a podcast about it, like it's just it's fun and it's

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like moves really quick and you can
kind of see how the episodes are put

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together. They really couldn't edit anything
out, like it just keeps moving,

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unlike the two hour version of it, which sometimes you know by hour you're

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an hour two and you're looking at
your phone. Honestly, right, of

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course I can't because I have to
take notes on the Bachelor. But yes,

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it drives me crazy. Every week. I'm like, I'm so bored,

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this is so much filler. Did
you do Charity season? Yes?

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Who did she pick? And do
we care? She picked? Oh my

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god? Uh see that's what's about
the show. Wow? Uh was Charity?

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Oh my god? They I was
shocked when they picked Charity. We

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didn't cover that season. I kind
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if I was doing nothing, I
just put it on the background. A

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beautiful girl. They're all super nice, but why do they pick another kind

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of just boring archetype because they they're
puppet masters over there. They need to

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control everything, and oh, you
gotta bachelor. Even Siri doesn't know watch

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the entire season. I loved by
episode three they were trying to say no,

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Bachelorette's back, and they were lying
to us because clearly it wasn't.

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And you're like, no, no, this is good. You just see

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the guy with the weird earrings.
No, this is really different. No

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it's not. It's horrible. If
Disney and Mickey Mouse are not already in

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production with like three different versions of
the Golden Bachelorette, Yes, yes,

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the Golden Bachelor. I'd like to
see the Golden bachelor. I don't know

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if they could call it that.
I'd like to see people in their fifties.

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Me too, thank you, thank
you, middle aged bachelor. I

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want to be a bachelorette. Okay, Charity pick Dowton. Okay. Remember

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kind of runner up was Joey.
Who's the bachelor? Now? Oh?

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Why bother? But I like Joey, all right, I'm here for Joey.

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Is he a batch? What did
you? He's a bachelor? Now?

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He's cute. His dad is gay? Okay, gay dad? You

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gotta love like it's getting a little
more like inclusive, and you know,

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it's getting a I mean, it's
still freaking a Christian Midwest show, but

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she just it's something about people in
their twenties coming on the show and then

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it's gonna be right, and it's
too long. It's ridiculous, and it's

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a lot of cooked stuff you gotta
sit through, like gay. That's why

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I stopped watching it for so long. I haven't seen it in years.

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Even when they tried to go a
little older, when they had Claire Crawley

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and they're like, oh, she's
almost forty, Like this is gonna be

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crazy. But then all the guys
were like twenty four exactly, and who

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she pick a guy who's like twenty
three. Yeah, she's married now,

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by the way, I know,
and having a baby. Yep. Yeah.

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I just I wish they'd just take
a year off doing the regular bachelor

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bacherette. Let it just take a
break from it and go down the road

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of this golden Bachelor bacherette thing and
let's have fun with that. But they're

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not. I was shocked the guy
had hearing aids. Like when I tuned

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in, I don't know, I
see the billboards before I watched it,

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and I'm thinking, oh, he's
like a George Clooney, He's like silver

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Fox or whatever. But then I'm
watching the first episode he's got his ear

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his hearing age, Okay, So
like wow. I was surprised by that

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too. That because you remember,
Steph, you've been covering this obviously,

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like eight years. We've been watching
them trying to recruit and cast this show

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for four years. They were running
like ads for oh really, yeah,

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oh twenty nineteen, twenty twenty really, and then they stopped, and I

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thought, oh, they just dispensed
of that concept and then here we are.

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Wow. But I was kind of
shocked when they skewed that older seventy

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two. I thought it they were
going to sit somewhere around sixty. Yeah,

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but it hasn't heard the show.
They must know who their audience is,

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at least with this. The only
problem is like most of the women

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are still hot, and some of
the women are really like only a couple

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of years older than me, which
is just a it's an and very pretty,

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like pretty gorgeous, you know,
like they look like actresses who are

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Now. I'm not saying that everybody
has to be like majorly old, but

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I'm just saying it. It is
still about like who's the pretty, Like

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there's still very beautiful women who have
had a lot of work done, and

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well, April's nuts, She's that's
the therapist, right, that's the therapist

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who is who was obsessed with Frankie
Valley for her entire life and wrote a

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book about it and Stocking girl.
Oh yes, because he had sex with

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her when she was like really young. Yeah, okay, it started out

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as a very sad thing that yes, he took her virginity when she was

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like a teenager, and then she
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They left a hotel room, and
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And then but then she continued to
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tour and go like have sex with
him in like a hotel room here and

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there. They never dated, and
he was married and then like divorced his

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wife and then married somebody else.
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having sex with her on the side, and she's getting more and more like

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obsessed with him, and she brought
she she like did get married, but

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trying to find somebody to like be
a replacement for him. And then she

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ended up leaving that guy and for
the affair with Frankie Valley. Eventually,

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many many years later, Frankie Valley
was like, like enough, like stay

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away from me, and she would
continue to show up places and email him

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and say like I'm going to tell
people or whatever. And then at some

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point she showed up at one of
his gigs and he sent like security out

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to like tell her to get out
and stop emailing. This all covered book.

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There's articles about it, but it
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like my affair, My year's long
affair with Frankie Valley. Wow, so

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yikes. I didn't hear about that. By the way, I did a

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whole segment. I have my own
show on our network called PMZ, in

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which I basically just talk about whatever. But one of the things that I

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found was rock stars in the sixties
and seventies doing all that craziness. Why

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craziness, I'm not going to minimize
it, having sex with basically underage tess.

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Stephen Tyler of Aerosmith was the king
of that. At some point he

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convinced parent like some girl's parents,
that he should become not adopter, but

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become the parent, adult figure that
basically oversees her upbringing. And then there

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was some problems because in that state, you couldn't have sex with someone who's

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fourteen. So what do you do? You know, he's a big problem

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solver, just had or move to
a different sty Oh yeah, wow,

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oh yeah. There's some crazy stories
of Stephen Tyler. But back up one

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second. You have another you have
a show that's your It's on our Patreon.

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I do a show that's just me, Like I do a segment call

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what the hell ever happened to that
guy? And just random people in our

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past, like what I like that. This week, I'm doing the Pickup

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Artist. Do you remember that show? Yes, yes, mystery what he's

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up to? He's still around,
but just fun things like that. And

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yeah, if you want to gead
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podcast network. There you go.
But uh, yeah, Chuck Barry was

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involved in I mean Frank Sinatra with
uh what's her name? Zeppelin? Elvis

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married Priscilla Priscilla when she was fourteen
in Italy. It's crazy. So yeah,

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boy, times different times, different
for sure, different times for sure.

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What was I gonna say about The
Golden Bachelor? I lost my thought?

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Oh okay, so I here was
my front runners, Sandra seventy five.

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She's hot. H I also like, who's the girl that Prince wrote

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a song about but kind of didn't? Leslie the one who danced for him?

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and like was kind of towerking and
stuff. Can you play d chance nocause

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it's I thought her dancing was a
little crazy. So they had this thing,

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did you watch it? I didn't
see that. Last they had a

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talent show, which you gotta admire
the fact that like they're not they're not

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giving these women a break. They're
just like you're going to be treated exactly

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how it will make you do stand
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fuck. Like one of they almost
killed that one girl with Gary in the

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car. He's not from here.
They have him driving down on the one

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on one with no headlights. Yeah. Yeah. So so they made him

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do a talent show and one of
the women was would be super relatable to

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me, and Lynette was like,
I don't what do you have a talent?

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the other ones are like, oh,

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I have a talent. I could
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this one was like, I used
to dance with Prince right back. She

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dated him. He wrote a song
about her called Sexy Dancer, which is

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not really a song. It sounds
more like when you buy a Cassio keyboard,

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you press the button says demo.
Yeah, that's how horrible it is.

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Sex danceabout for a second to hear
it. It's it's not even a

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song. It's and by the way, I think Prince lied to her,

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you can technically tell every girl you're
having sex with the dances. I wrote

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a song about you, right.
I don't want to take that away from

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her. But but so she's a
very intense likable but so she's she's immediately

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like, oh, a talent competition. Yeah, I'm gonna pretty much clean

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this up because I'm going to dance. But you know, I think it's

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been a while since she was dancing
like professionally on stage. So her dancing

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was like how you would imagine somebody
that's like really being extra rusty, but

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also just like kind of like aggressive. We're going to fall out of her

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face, that's how aggressive, very
aggressive, shaking her ass like twerking,

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like kind of seemingly she's trying to
give him a lap dance. You could

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tell that he wasn't like, oh
this is seemcomfortable. Yeah. So then

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there was the woman, the woman
who was like, I don't know,

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I don't really have a talent.
She wrote a poem I want to cop

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out. I loved it. I
was like, you know what, that

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is exactly what I would do.
I loved it too. I felt like

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you were talking to me, you
know what, you need to give it

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a little less inflection. He sounds
a little more Ai and not kermit,

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no kind of kermity, but like
less Uh. I loved it. I

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felt like you were talking to me, almost like he had like a producer

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in his ear. Say yes,
it sounds very automated, all right.

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Can I one issue with this show
though, and it kind of comes with

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any age group, but more so
I think with people that have extended families

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and grandchildren. I think you know
what I'm going to say, why do

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you hate old people? I don't
I love old I who is going to

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leave their entire family and all their
grandchildren to move to Indiana? Yeah,

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that's a good question. That's a
good question. It's it may just end

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with like them kissing at the alder
whoever he picks, and being like,

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oh, and we're just really good
friends. I think that's good. Well,

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you know how he keeps saying he's
into Ellen, Ellen, who's like

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Roberta. You're watching me from Roberta. Of course their name is Roberta.

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Yeah, of course, of course
that was her best friend that had passed,

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right, Okay, but wanted her
to be on her best friend who

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was still with us when she was
taping the show, but now she passed.

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It's sad. It's so sad.
But I think that he really likes

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her as a friend, right,
he does not want to have sex with

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her. I think he wanted to
have sex with Joan who left. Oh,

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but she might come back. I
don't know. And I think there

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should be no rules if Joan wants
just if you're not watching the show.

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A contestant had to leave because her
daughter was giving birth, and it was

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she's already given birth, but I
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and wanted her mom right. So
mom left as she's sure she Joan just

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wanted to leave that. This is
my theory. My theory is that they

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go on this one on one and
I think he was super into her,

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like a lot, a lot a
lot into her. She's only sixty,

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right, I love on this show
like sixty is like she's only sixty.

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She's a baby, She's a baby, she's a newborn baby for this franchise,

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for this show. And he was
really into it. And I think

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she got a little freaked out,
like uh oh, he's this is for

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real, for real, and he
likes me and he may pick me,

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and I am, I don't want
this, yes, And I think she

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might have been like, Okay,
I'm gonna I gotta get off this show

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and I don't want to say,
I think you like me too much.

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That's what I think happened. I
don't see his daughter. He's only gonna

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be there. She's only gonna Mom
is only going to be there for like

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another few weeks at the most.
If I'm the daughter, even though I

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just had a baby or whatever,
I feel like I would be like,

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no, Mom, absolutely not,
Like this is your guy, finish this

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out. I'll see you like freaking
hire a. Yeah, Dola, And

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if you remember their date that they
had, she had told us, you

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know, when they do their interviews
or whatever, that this was the first

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time that she decided that she could
be selfish and do something that she wants

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to do right, and then the
very next day she's on a plane for

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Yeah. Yeah, I like that
theory a lot. Speaking of sex,

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though, Look, can we take
a quick break and then talk about sex?

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Okay? Speaking of sex, okay? Does Disney have to get extra

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insurance for these fantasy rooms? I
mean, my mom tripped over her dog

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and was in a hospital for threeears. I can't imagine a fantasy suite.

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What's going on there? And you
know, you break a hip in the

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dark, yeah, and fall over
when he's getting out of bed and like,

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yeah, he tripped over the three
bottles of pinot. No one's getting

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pregnant. No one's getting pregnant.
No, that's true. They don't need

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to put condoms in the fantasy.
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they do. These people are barely
kissing right, Oh my god. We

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when we get to remind me when
we're talking about Love is Blind to talk

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about JP's kissing style, Well,
that's because he's like a jackhammer. He's

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like a facial jackhammer. That's because
he wants to kiss guys. Oh,

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is that That's what I want to
know? You move into Love is Blind?

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Yet? Sure? We still sure? I'm good to go with that.

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I just watched the reunion last night, which shockingly I found entertaining.

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I just know I was shocked how
entertained I was. They spilled quite a

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bit of tea. Yeah, now
do you know all the tea about Renee

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and Carlton and what happened there and
Carlton? Okay, so if Love is

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Blind, people, I know there
was an extra couple. Renee is the

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one who claimed that she was assaulted. No, we never saw her.

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Oh is Renee the little blonde.
Correct, Okay, she So if you

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watch Love is Blind and you haven't
been on the reddits or whatever, you

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may be shocked to know that there
was another couple that filmed two more that

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filmed entire journeys the resort, getting
up on the altar, living with each

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other, and Love is Blind decided
they'd completely extract them out of this why

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some different reasons. So Love is
Blind I think is going to be one

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of the first reality shows to start
to go down in the sense that it's

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going to be sued into the ground
based on participants saying how manipulated they were

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during the process. Really, some
of the claims are obviously there's one sexual

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assault because during these pods and then
meeting one participant felt assaulted by another cast

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member another one in the pods,
right, No, when they meant out,

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I think when they finally met each
other when they were filming out of

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the pods, because they would have
obviously had to have been like in the

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resort. Yeahs or I call these
people the barbecue people. They're the people

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that never actually coupled up. They
just you see them in the background a

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bit. They act as kind of
ancillary friends, but they're never you know,

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they're not in the forefront of a
season. But so there's that.

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I just there's a lot going on
because in the heyday of reality TV,

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I mean there was a lot of
boundaries crossed. One. For example,

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we covered Flavor of Love and Rock
of Love, and we are learning now

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that Brent Michael's in that production company
are going around the world reselling that show

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unedited. So these girls that signed
up to be on Rock of Love in

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two thousand and seven, they signed
something that we own your image and whatever,

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now can see themselves completely nude.
Wow, And so they're starting to

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they're going to sue that production company. Wow. One of the main cast

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members, I think she came in
second place. Her name was Heather on

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season one of Rock of Love.
She's kind of heading it up with an

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attorney because I was shocked when we
were going to cover it and I found

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the series because you got to buy
it and I'm watching it and everyone's naked

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and people are I mean, this
is people are dropping n bombs. It

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is absolutely insane crazy. Yeah,
So it's uh, I think it's a

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good and a bad thing because producers
can be pretty manipulative. But at the

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same time, you could like cleanse
these reality shows so much that they're no

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longer interesting or fun to watch or
real or real. Right, yeah,

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so that's what's happening with loves Blind. But wow, two couples huh yeah,

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but can we talk about that Nick
and Danielle from season three? I

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know, And it's so annoying because
I understand some of the people's sewing.

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He is claiming. Okay, so
Nick and Danielle, do you remember them?

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Not really? I called them the
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She loved to wear halloween costumes during
the middle of the week. That's

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how you could probably remember her.
Like he'd come home and she just bought

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something on Amazon and she's wearing a
hot dog costume hot and she wanted to

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like dance on tables. She was, Oh, yeah, they're not going

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to control now, I know.
And yeah, so when they were at

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but she was I guess the technical
term would be like cuckoo. She was,

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Yeah, So she was very emotional, right, and Nick was like,

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I'm sorry, what is my phone
keep ringing with scam calls? I

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have it all day long? Turn
it off? I know, I keep

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Okay, so when there there was
they were at the resort and there was

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going to be some she was having
like a meltdown because she was feeling insecure.

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She claims that she was having a
panic attack or she was having it.

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But she was telling him, I
want you to go. I want

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you to go to the barbecue anyway
or the thing, and he's like are

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you sure? Are you sure?
Are you sure? And she's like,

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yes, please please go. He's
trying to claim now that they made him

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leave or something. Yeah, the
producers ushered him out. Said she's fine,

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you know, just go and he's
like, no, I should stay

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with my wife. Is basically he's
alleging of how manipulated cast members are,

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right, But let me say this, So she says that she wanted to

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leave because she's claiming that she was
just feeling super insecure and it was really

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triggering a lot of insecurity and and
if you watch it back, like he

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wasn't very nice to her at all
the whole time. He was like very

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talk down to her the whole time. He seemed always annoyed by her,

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and then that made her more insecure. But anyway, she claims that she

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wanted to leave and he says that
he was going to leave with her.

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That's what he says, but that
the producers told them, you guys,

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don't leave because we are giving you
the best edit. You guys are like

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the Lauren and Cameron. So those
were the two that got married. He's

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one beautiful black girl and Robot.
Yes, I literally just watched last night

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the beginning of that season and saw
them get married and stuff. So they

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were like, you guys are getting
the Lauren and Cameron treatment and you know,

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and so they were like, oh, well, if we're gonna look,

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really, I guess if we're getting
that treatment. So what I'm saying

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is like, that's on them.
You play the game like you think the

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reason you're gonna stay, So you
weren't that upset. You're like, I'm

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gonna leave, but oh, we're
gonna be we might be stars, we

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might get a really big social following. Well I'm sorry, but you can't

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turn around later and just go we
were abused. Yeah. And also his

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he did some TikTok where he's making
all the claims, one of which is,

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if you break this down to me, I'm working for this company.

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I made seven dollars and thirty cents
an hour. Like he's claiming he can't

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get a job, he can't work, so he's basically like threatening that he

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might be homeless because of and blaming. Love is blind. How about get

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a job? Yeah, and also
give it about six months, and no

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one's going to know who you are
honestly with below Deck people. There are

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people that I have conversations with that
I don't know. And I realized I

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watched them on sixteen episodes, but
it had been eight months. I completely

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washed them out of my memory.
Yeah, so, neighbor, I keep

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telling you this, I'm telling you
this on there. My neighbor is the

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casting director for Below Deck. I
told you she would do your show.

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I gave you her phone number.
I forgive me. I've been so busy,

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but I would love to exchange that. I asked her. I saw

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her walking her dog the other day. Yeah, my friend ever ever contact

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you? And she's like, nope. I said, you got to go

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on my friend's podcast. They do
a podcast about below Deck. She's like,

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sure, I'd be happy to I
would love that number again. I

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dropped the ball. I know,
you know we actually now we have with

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that show. We have like a
waiting list for people that are coming in,

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like it's people want to come in
that felt like they got burned on

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their season. So we get hit
up all the time like, Hey,

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can I come on and share my
life about how I was manipulated on a

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reality TV show? Are they part
of the whole Bethany movement? I think

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the Bravo. I think that the
groundswell of that is kind of is happening,

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and I think that might have been
something that caused it. We have

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Bravo breathing down our throat now with
kind of they'll like they request it.

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If anybody reaches out to us,
can we let them know? So I

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think they can go over and,
oh really hit them on the hand with

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a stick and say you ain't talking. Wow, that's interesting. Bravo's better

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than a lot of other networks I've
heard, but they try and control people.

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They try and control the edit and
narrative. Go ahead, what were

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we going to say? I was
just gonna say, can't we need to

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still talk about love is blind?
Though? Of course, like what happened?

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Yeah, what happened? Oh?
All right, so this is the

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worst season ever and I want to
hear this tea that you have. Oh

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okay, Well, firstly, the
first one is I had someone reach out

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in good authority that knows JP personally, and he's been telling friends that he's

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actually bisexual for a number of years. But the allegedly is all alleged.

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But apparently he is more leans,
more towards guys than girls, despite claiming

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he's by I can see that.
I'm tell you that. I am shocked

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though, that he would even be
open about that with his friends, since

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he seems to be very staunch and
cut off conservative conservative. I mean,

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anybody that wears American flags at every
single day of their own lives can all

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over. Well that's but if he's
then why is he telling all his friends

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like, oh, I like that. I can't imagine he would. He

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seems like he would be a very
serious, closeted type. Yeah, he

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was one of the weirder ones because
I joked about it when we recap that

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episode, like, can you imagine
like production calling Nick and Vanessa. Of

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course they're out at like a bar
or something eleven They're like, hey,

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boss, we got one of them. He's not talking anymore. Now we

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got a guy here who stopped literally
stopped talking. Okay, so should we

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keep filming them because what he did
to her was so mean? Yes,

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00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,680
gaslighting, and so many people on
Reddit. I do look at Reddit a

408
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,839
lot read all this stuff into it
where they're like, no, she wasn't

409
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:22,839
into him, because you know it
because she said shed his teeth and she

410
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,119
was the one who pulled away first, and that's why he pulled away.

411
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,720
And I've responded to some of these
people. I'm like, he literally told

412
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,599
her no a suit. As soon
as I saw you, it was a

413
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,720
turn off. I wasn't into it, and that's why I kind of shut

414
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,960
down. And at least on the
reunion we got confirmed, like right,

415
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:44,680
he was saying, yeah, it
was me. I wasn't into it.

416
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,240
I didn't like her as soon as
I saw her. I thought I thought

417
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:49,680
it was she was faky looking and
whatever. I mean, she's gorgeous.

418
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,599
Yeah, I think she was one
of the prettiest. She looks like a

419
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,720
model. And dare I say,
I think, by the way, horrible

420
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:59,359
casting this season. Shame on you. Love is blind. You got a

421
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:02,839
lot riding on this and I looked
at you know kind of how the search

422
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:07,960
basically what love Netflix shows you when
you your landing page. Love is Blind

423
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,960
For me, I've been watching it
for four seasons. It should be number

424
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,960
one for me, But it was
so low ranked because I think people gave

425
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:15,559
up on this season so early.
It wasn't trending as much as it typically

426
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:21,000
would. So I hope they learned
their lesson, Like how dare you give

427
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,480
us just two couples? I know
that's what I was thinking, Like,

428
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:27,559
what's just two couples? So think
about the reality shows that you watch,

429
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:32,079
Ninety Day Fiance or I don't know
if you guys watched Love after lock Up.

430
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,319
They do hour and a half or
two hour episodes per week. The

431
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:41,000
reason it works is they're following nine
couples. You have little five minute vignettes

432
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:44,000
and then you move on and it
kind of keeps you, you know,

433
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:52,119
interested with this. I was not
held spellbound by watching Milton right. I

434
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:56,839
was at the beginning though, well
just because it was such an odd matchup.

435
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,240
But then when you realize Lydia would
literally say yes to the Golden State

436
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:04,759
Killer if he had got down among
right. She was that desperate to lock

437
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,640
it down. I think, yeah, it wasn't true what Jay said about

438
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,839
her, like about you know,
I don't think he's the liar. Oh

439
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,119
well he is. He's a controlling
he seems. Yeah, he is a

440
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,920
controlling dick and condescending. Yeah,
and didn't even have the guts to come

441
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,920
on the reunion right to defend himself. Any girl that dates just do not

442
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:32,079
date that guy. He needs to
tell too. When the guys don't like

443
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,200
the one guy. You know,
most guys just hang out, they get

444
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,839
together, they like each other.
You know, the guys that were on

445
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,440
the stage last night at the reunion
seemed like they pretty much liked each other

446
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:47,519
except for the pretty boy or whatever. But but yeah, it just seems

447
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,920
like they didn't like after and it's
like there's something there. There's He's a

448
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:55,279
dick. He wanted to be in
control at all times, all time.

449
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,359
Anytime he felt that the narrative that
he lost, the narrative that they were

450
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,880
anybody who's feeling bad for anybody else. He turned on them. As soon

451
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,799
as she said yeah, I've cheated. He immediately you could see his whole

452
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,119
affect change. She was like,
oh, this makes me look bad.

453
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,119
I look like a sucker being with
somebody who said they cheated. So now

454
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,319
I need to be an asshole.
Then as soon as he lost control again

455
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:19,960
because she was like, well fuck
you, then he was like, well

456
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,759
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute,

457
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:23,599
I'm sorry about that. Can we
talk? Can we talk? And

458
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,079
by the way, having talk,
having a talk with him means you you're

459
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,960
supposed to keep your mouth shut for
ten minutes and let him talk down to

460
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,519
you. That's a conversation with you. Y yeah. Yeah. Then when

461
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:38,200
they met after after she left,
right after she left the uh they went

462
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,920
to the even get to the resort. After she left the pods, they

463
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,400
go to the restaurant she's he they
meet up. He doesn't like her,

464
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,000
he tells her, I don't like
He says later, I didn't like her.

465
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,680
I didn't she wasn't my tie.
So we found out tonight or the

466
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,720
reunion, right, but I had
already read that. It's like some spoiler

467
00:31:55,759 --> 00:32:00,720
stuff about that, right, But
he claimed that they after they met,

468
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:06,400
he says on camera, yeah,
it's not going to work between us.

469
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,359
Too late. You left. That
made me look bad. But then apparently

470
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:14,880
behind the scenes, which we got
confirmation of on the reunion, he was

471
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,880
like, yeah, yeah, but
by the way, I still want to

472
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,519
like let's date a little bit.
He claimed that they kissed that day after

473
00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:23,440
He's like, well what he said? He was on social media saying,

474
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,839
well, what you didn't see was
that, no, we started dating.

475
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,160
After that. We'll show up to
the reunion and and clear it up.

476
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,720
Then he didn't exactly right. Yeah, So casting is so crucial to this,

477
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,920
which is shocking that they just whiffed
on it because think about the setup.

478
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:43,920
It's so fun. The first couple
episodes are always just kind of getting

479
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,559
to know the cast members. You
know, hear the insanity in those pods

480
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:50,920
of people falling in love after you
know, a total of four hours with

481
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,799
each other. Then they send him
to a resort and that's always fun because

482
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:57,119
you get to see each other.
I mean, it's just the structure of

483
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,960
the show is genius. Then they
live together and then you get all the

484
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:02,480
hey, you know, oh that's
what she looks like. And then of

485
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:06,880
course the wedding's the drama of lead
up. It is so hard to screw

486
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,359
this up, and yet they did. They were able to screw it up.

487
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:14,960
Why they cut Renee and Carlton up? I did they? So there's

488
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:17,880
She was on Kate Casey Show by
the way. So she's singing like a

489
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,160
canary, right, so she's breaking
all the rules. She So there were

490
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,720
a lot of claims that she came
in and she was just fake and trying

491
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:29,680
to be on TV. She clears
that up two sides every story. This

492
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:30,839
was actually filmed, by the way, do you know how long ago this

493
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,000
was filmed? I think they said
it a year and a half. So

494
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,319
this was March twenty twenty one that
they were filming this. Wow, And

495
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:43,759
so a year and a half passed, And so she had said because she's

496
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:45,839
married now, and she had said, no, no, no, I

497
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,880
was way done filming before I met
the guy that I'm married to now.

498
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,160
But she caught a lot of shit
for that because it made it look like

499
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:57,079
she was married immediately after the show. And then there's something about Carlton,

500
00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:59,440
who if you do, you know
who Carlton is. He's the big kind

501
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:06,119
of looks like a jack. Yeah. Allegedly he'd threatened production that his mental

502
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:10,119
health was not stable and if they
aired his footage, he it wasn't going

503
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:15,000
to go well, oh yeah,
his mental health, and I think the

504
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:20,280
producers decided imagine, by the way, we're hearing about lawsuits. Now,

505
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,440
I assume these things started or the
threats right a year ago. So as

506
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,280
they're editing this season, they're like, I wonder if they were thinking,

507
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,840
like, let's just bury our losses
here and just we have to have something.

508
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:34,679
I personally would have just scrapped this
season and say we don't have enough

509
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,880
participants. Let's yeah, but it
still did fine. I think, yeah,

510
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:42,719
but you hurt your you hurt your
brand. A lot of us watched

511
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,639
it. I don't think they did
hurt their brand. Yeah, it's an

512
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:50,760
experiment like so that they're playing with
though, So imagine so if you're going

513
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,559
to stand here and say this is
an experiment and all of it is true

514
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:55,960
to itself, and then we start
hearing that the producers are tinkering with it,

515
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,639
and case in point, producers tell
U and Lydia to keep it a

516
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:06,559
wrap day. Why did you do
that? Let it play out like you

517
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:10,079
are now affecting the process. I
don't know that I disagree with that,

518
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:15,000
though, because if if first of
all, they both knew that the other

519
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:19,280
one was going to be there,
she knew that he was going to be

520
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,320
there, it was clear that she
was lying during the reunion that I mean,

521
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,159
she wasn't really lying, but when
she was very stuttering, like I

522
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:32,000
mean, did I know? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah it possibly.

523
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,519
We talked about how we've both been
at casting. Did I have absolute

524
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:43,880
confirmation? No, she freaking knew
it. That's why a Leiah was like,

525
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,320
dude, you freaking knew that he
was going to be there? Come

526
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,480
on, And she was like,
I mean not one hundred percent, I

527
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:52,559
was ninety nine percent sure? Okay? Did he know that she was going

528
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:57,760
to be there? They said that
they had had a short, like one

529
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,880
or two sentence conversation about oh,
hey, I'm looking at this, and

530
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,360
that was the extent of it.
But I don't buy it. I mean,

531
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,360
it was only a couple of months
before that they just slept with each

532
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,960
other. I didn't even see the
reunion, but the way that they acted

533
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:13,880
when they found out each other was
in the pods. I saw that.

534
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,199
I go, oh, bullshit,
Oh this looks this this theory you're pretending?

535
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:23,280
Yeah right, yeah, I think
that I and you don't recognize her

536
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,920
voice, like come on with her
accent and her name is Lydia, can

537
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,639
I say something so is Oh?
And I I've said this on our podcast.

538
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:36,880
A lot of these people are absolutely
horrible people, I mean, really

539
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,119
unlikable peoplept for Milton, except for
Milton, Milton, Lydia, let's talk

540
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:51,079
about Milton Shent no no, no, when uh where was going Lydia?

541
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:55,400
Oh yeah, Lydia. Okay,
So let's analyze her relationship with the Leah.

542
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,880
I don't think she's gotten scorched enough
for how insane that thank you.

543
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,679
I was going to bring that up
crazy out of like a movie. Look,

544
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,760
it's tough because you know, as
us as viewers, you can go,

545
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,000
I do this, I do that. I'd like to believe if this

546
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:19,000
happened to me. The one thing
I do is stay clear of her so

547
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:23,320
that you're not affecting her. But
she was completely absorbed in that relationship.

548
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,559
You like me, You're like,
I see myself and you because smothering her.

549
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,519
When they played that back, I
was I was like, oh my

550
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,119
god. And then she's like he
has a nice call water It's dope,

551
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:45,280
I mean, and then doggy style
right what okay? And all? But

552
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:50,000
like I love you, girl,
I love you. Like when girls get

553
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:54,440
like that, I'm like, what, especially when you just met Aliah Leaving

554
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:58,960
I think was less about oocha,
and more about get me out of this

555
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:01,239
crazy because this is insane. Yeah, hold on, we have to take

556
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:07,039
another break, but we'll be right
back. Yeah, yeah, I listen.

557
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,320
Something was But getting back to this
point, which is I can imagine

558
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,639
that the producers were kept in the
dark. I'm sure that uch neither Uch

559
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,800
nor Lydia told them, Oh,
we're going to know somebody who's there.

560
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,920
So then when they were both there
and they had to the well, the

561
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,840
producers were listening. I doubt that
either Uch or Lydia went to producers.

562
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,960
I bet you Lydia was like,
oh, it's me, And if he

563
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:39,000
freaking knew, he was totally lying
when he was like, uh, what

564
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,119
who is this? I don't recognize
your voice. I think he was going

565
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:45,800
to try to play it off,
and I think she was, you know,

566
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,400
she's a little crazy. I think
she was like, Oh, no,

567
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,880
we're not gonna you know me,
maybe we're meant to be okay.

568
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,719
Then the producers call them in.
This is what I think happened, and

569
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,000
they're like, we're not scrapping our
whole thing, Like if you guys should

570
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,079
go home. I think that's what
happened. I think the producers were like,

571
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,559
then get the fuck out, because
we suspect that maybe you know.

572
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,159
But meanwhile, I think each of
them had already kind of met a few

573
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:15,400
people and maybe saw themselves having connections. So I think they were like,

574
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,280
no, no, no, let
us stay, we'll be good, like

575
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,679
we won't tell anybody. I don't. And now they're like, oh,

576
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,559
well you said we couldn't tell anybody. We really wanted to tell people.

577
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:25,760
I agree with production that I'd be
like, well, that would be just

578
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,559
weird if they went day one and
like went into the loungerry and was oh

579
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:37,440
I know this person, but then
look what happened. Ultimately, no matter

580
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,719
what, it was going to mess
with the quote unquote experiment. But I

581
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,239
don't think the producers. I think
they just were like, okay, well,

582
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,840
don't mess it up, at least
at the beginning. I mean eventually

583
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,360
they let them tell, right,
But then it went and got really weird.

584
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,239
Right, well, that's the thing. I think they had a very

585
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,000
weird contestant with her, and I'm
sure they didn't then. As an ex

586
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,760
producer, I really think that it's
like a call. You can't these people.

587
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:05,840
Producers of reality shows are just like
anybody else a lot of these things

588
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,079
they don't see coming. And I'm
sure they were like, what are we

589
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:12,480
going to scrap the whole thing because
of these two? Or they probably should

590
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,800
have just sent them home. Okay, Can I talk about casting for a

591
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,920
second because sorry to keep going back
to this, but just absolutely horrible casting.

592
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,119
And by the way, how small
is Houston that you can't find you

593
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,159
know what I mean? People are
on this show. It's generally fifteen people,

594
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,159
right, you can't find fifteen people
that have never met in Houston.

595
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:35,000
I know so, but they probably
lied about having met each other. Well

596
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:38,079
I totally get that. But look, I did a reality show like ten

597
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:43,559
years ago that it was only got
a pilot. The background check that they

598
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:45,119
did on me, I had to
sign a phone book and fill out this

599
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:51,480
application about everything my life dating back
to like being two years old to kind

600
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,320
of figure me out and make sure
that I wasn't you know, I was

601
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:59,280
who I was. And so I
don't understand why producers are casting agents can't

602
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,599
go like to any participants, go
look, I need the phone number of

603
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:07,039
your last three girlfriends or boyfriends,
just things like that to kind of suss

604
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,360
these people out, because you can
get a lot of dirt. You can

605
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,280
also get some lies and stuff from
exes. But if you call the last

606
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,480
three acts and they're like, yeah, he's a cheater or what like whatever,

607
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:21,960
you can just I think that's how
you can avoid some of these bad

608
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,280
casting choices like talk. If you
want to talk to anybody JP knew you,

609
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,280
probably they'd probably be like, he
signed up to be on a reality

610
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,960
show. This is nuts, Like
no, but anyway, that's not a

611
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,599
talker. He's not a talker.
But then you don't get drama, like

612
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,079
I'm sure that that was not a
fail to the producers of the show.

613
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:44,159
I'm sure the fact that they got
ended up not getting along and he told

614
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:45,719
her he thought she looked fake and
had too much may I mean, that's

615
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,960
drama. That was It causes people
to talk about it. I get it.

616
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,760
And by the way, that the
only fun part of this season really

617
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,079
was the twist of the oo Chau
David Lydia twists. So I'm with you

618
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,920
on that there, But I think
you can find a balance. I just

619
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,280
love the first season so much that
I keep you know, I know we're

620
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,880
never going to get a girl walking
in a wedding dress falling down a gully

621
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:12,119
again. Okay, that's right.
Yes, yeah, there's no way that

622
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:17,760
Giannina thought what's his name was cute
damion? Yeah, and she was nuts.

623
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,320
The fact that they even made it
to the altar is crazy, like

624
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,760
there's like something and she is like
a reality TV ho too. I mean

625
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,880
she's with isn't she dating Blake from
The Bachelor? She has and she has

626
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,360
a podcast of course. I mean
if you kind of look at it,

627
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,880
the magic was in Lauren and Cameron. They liked each other immediately, and

628
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:45,000
also and then you also had what's
her name? Who was? Who ended

629
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:49,960
up with Oh my god, why
Jessica, who was kind of the slush

630
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:55,280
slashing her wine around all the yea, yeah, she who liked Mark but

631
00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:01,880
then but then got uh freaked out
by him young. Yes, but it

632
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,840
was so short that he couldn't get
on most rides at Disneyland. Yeah.

633
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,679
But if you think about it,
okay, and it's it's funny because I

634
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,920
look, like I said, I
was just watching. I watched the first

635
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,599
couple episodes last night, and she
was like, oh my god, I'm

636
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:21,119
madly after Barnett told Jessica like,
it's it's not happening with you or no.

637
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,039
She got mad because he wasn't sure. So Jessica goes into the pod

638
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:28,199
and she says, like, what
I want to know? Can I ask

639
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,840
you a question? Will you be
honest with me? And he's like oh.

640
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,199
She's like, do you still mean
it? Like how you felt about

641
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,800
me, like the things you said
yesterday, and he goes, I don't

642
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,960
know. She was like what that
fuck? Well, that's when the tank

643
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:46,039
mechanic his now wife I believe,
who's military. Yes, that's when she

644
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:50,239
came in and threatened her life,
which was great, great TV that first

645
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,840
season. Yeah, I miss it. It was She's like that that army

646
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:57,760
lady is going to kill me or
something. But he was also don't forget,

647
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,079
he was also into another one,
Elsie. There was another girl that

648
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:05,000
he was into that he just decided
he was torn between three differents when every

649
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,039
girl wanted him to we're talking about
Barnett right, yes, yes, because

650
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,840
and because he was like, they're
all like, oh my god, he's

651
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,719
so perverted, like he just get
He constantly was like oh you have a

652
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,239
dog, oh you like a dogging
style, and all these women were like

653
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,760
love him, you know. First
seasons of shows you can never kind of

654
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,760
top it because they didn't know what
they were signing up for. And that's

655
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,960
the magic surrounding the season two there
was already trouble in like River City because

656
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,440
they had shake on, they had
that other guy who is a lunatic,

657
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:42,639
Oh Shane, Shane just he was
season two. See, that season was

658
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,639
a lot worse than this season.
If you think about the people and the

659
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,800
messiness and the just the awful,
the awful contestants, you think that was

660
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,000
good casting. That was terrible Castle. I think it was a sophomore slump.

661
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,159
And then season three I thought was
a little bit better, and then

662
00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:01,400
season four. I thought last season
was their best next to the season one.

663
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:06,159
But I hope if they should have
at any given time two or three

664
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:08,639
of these introductions, I mean I
would build out more studios with pods and

665
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,880
just start filming away like and do
better and if something, if the season's

666
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,840
not working, then I think they
tried to crank it out too quickly,

667
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,519
too like one after another. I
mean, we just ended the other season

668
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:23,239
and now this season. Yeah,
but they filmed them, they filmed them

669
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,920
a while ago, right, But
I think that we were they were doing

670
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,480
them so quickly, back to back, back then. There's just too much.

671
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:32,159
I could have done a little better
if they have. Yeah, who

672
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:38,039
are we forgetting about though? On
the current season? Yeah, did not

673
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:43,039
talk Chris. Who's Chris and Johnny? Oh yeah, Chris and Johnny.

674
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:46,760
We got to talk about that,
sure. Okay. So Johnny, as

675
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,760
you recall, was like in the
Little everybody hates Johnny and I don't understand

676
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,440
why because I don't mind her.
I know either stuff. She's the girl

677
00:45:54,559 --> 00:46:00,400
in the playground that someone well I
think what happen, and she's the rumor

678
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,760
spreader she does. She's like the
worst game of telephone. Someone tells her

679
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,480
like, hey, Mary was mean
to me. Then she goes over to

680
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,960
Mary and she's like, Caitlin said, you're a bitch, yeah, and

681
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:15,519
just stirs the pot. So that's
true. I think she has really low

682
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:19,760
self esteem. Yep. Yeah,
I think she's had some bad relationship.

683
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,119
I think she got very much like
this syndrome. I don't know why I'm

684
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:28,159
calling it a syndrome, but this
thing where it was like, oh my

685
00:46:28,159 --> 00:46:30,000
god, all these guys are into
me and she I don't think she's ever

686
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:34,760
been that girl that like a lot
of the guys were falling for her,

687
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:38,400
so I think that, but this
was the twist we didn't see coming right

688
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:45,519
that she so she chooses what's his
name, Izzy? At her she wants

689
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:49,280
Izzy. She falls for Izzy,
but then Izzy's like, eh, I

690
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,360
don't know. So then she's like, oh, no, I made a

691
00:46:52,440 --> 00:47:00,519
mistake. So she basically said that
she normally picks the safe guy and she

692
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:04,760
wants to follow her heart and that's
why she's with Izzy. I didn't find

693
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,960
any real discrepancy with what she was
saying, No there was. So then

694
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:10,559
she gets Chris in there as the
backup and says, you know, I

695
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:15,960
normally go for the bad guy,
but maybe I should be going with the

696
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:17,840
nice guy Chris, And he's like, well, let me think about that.

697
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,480
Well, so I think both sides, and she was playing both sides.

698
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:25,079
She was playing both sides, but
she wasn't lying like Izzy was always.

699
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,880
But it's a bad boy. But
when but when they're talking in their

700
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,599
you know, community or whatever it's
set and one guy saying she said this

701
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:36,239
to me and the other guy saying
that, then it's she starts to sound

702
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,079
fishy. She's basically going it would
be like you know, I I you

703
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:44,360
know what I love. I love
brunettes. I could never see myself dating

704
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,440
a blonde. Then the brunette says, well, I'm kind of not into

705
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,800
you. Then you go in the
room with a blonde. You know what,

706
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,000
I really love blondes. Okay,
I despise brunettes. It's just she

707
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:57,079
was playing, playing and she got
confused. I'm gonna I'm going to disagree.

708
00:47:57,159 --> 00:48:00,199
I think what happened is she was
her last but guy that she married

709
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,280
she'd been in love with, like
the drug autic guy. That was a

710
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,880
bad choice for her, so then
she went with the safer choice. But

711
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,920
then the safer choice she was never
really fully in love with them. So

712
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,559
what she was kind of saying was
I would know, knowing myself, I'd

713
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:20,440
probably pick the safer choice. She's
done both. I understand what you're saying,

714
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:24,960
but I think in there with the
guys talking, I think she sounds

715
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:30,360
like she's talking out it, like
she's two faces. She was competing for

716
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,239
the guy against Stacy, so she's
trying to figure out, how do I

717
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,639
keep these guys on the hook with
me? How do I play them both?

718
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,440
Then she decides, Okay, I'm
gonna be all in with Izzy.

719
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:45,719
Izzy is a dick. I do
not like this guy. First of all.

720
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:52,480
I like Stacy even less. So
that's so. But Izzy is like,

721
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:58,920
first of all Izzy with his terrible
credit and his very fishy sounding job.

722
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,199
And I say jaw Air quotes on
job because he was like, oh,

723
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,840
yeah, I got a I got
a job. I just got a

724
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,360
job, like, oh, my
friend hooked me up with this sales job

725
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,679
that I've never actually freaking worked there. I mean, I don't blame Stacy

726
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,599
for being like, what's your job, what's your career? Well, I

727
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,360
had a job, but I don't
anymore, Okay, And you also have

728
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:22,840
like a terrible credit. Well,
how are you gonna fly your wife in

729
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:28,000
first class with no job in a
terrible credit? Yeah, so i'men fan

730
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,360
of hers. She's terrible. Oh
she's terrible. Yeah. When I is,

731
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,199
he walks up to ATM machines,
the ATM machine tells me the fuck

732
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,360
off. Yeah, by the way, that is something you and he proved

733
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,719
to be basically a liar or he
buried the truth. I forget how he

734
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:46,000
articulated it, but they definitely discussed
finances in there. You know what,

735
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:51,039
Stacy she's going to be bringing out
like do you make whatever? But I

736
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,519
don't think that. I think he
was hiding it because he was on the

737
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:58,079
reunion. She was like, why
didn't you tell me about He's like,

738
00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:00,079
well, I did kind of tell
you about my and she's like, you

739
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:05,000
never said he said I don't owe
a lot of money. I'm not in

740
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:07,639
debt. Well, you were thirty
five hundred dollars in debt, which I

741
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,800
agree is not a ton of debt, but you also had terrible credit.

742
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,960
But also he said, I don't
owe anybody any money, but I just

743
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,400
have bad credit. That is the
definition of owing people money. That's how

744
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,440
you get bad credit, is you
owe someone money and you don't pay that.

745
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,920
And he said I don't have a
credit card, which was the red

746
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,000
flag for her. That's when she
started going like, okay, you're telling

747
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,480
me this the night before we're gonna
get married. I do not blame her

748
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:36,480
at all for not marrying him.
The way they both acted this Stacy and

749
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:40,079
Izzy when they were just getting off, they were like having orgasm over the

750
00:50:40,159 --> 00:50:46,199
fact that they went they were so
mean to Johnny for no reason, so

751
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,800
mean, And then you find out
that as soon as Stacy says no to

752
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,000
him at the altar. Like two
weeks later, he goes and tries to

753
00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:57,800
get freaking Johnny Baby. Oh yeah, by the way, they make out

754
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,119
in his car. We hint they
hint it at this During the reunion,

755
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:05,320
there was a beautiful girl named not
Molea. I can't forget who, but

756
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,159
she remember her in the pods.
Her story was, well, I live

757
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:10,800
in South Africa, but I'm moving
to Houston in three weeks. Hello,

758
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:15,920
you're in Houston right now filming a
show. I own a makeup line.

759
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,559
I'm starting a makeup line, skim
Caroline. I'm not really sure what over

760
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:24,360
the place it'd be an MLM.
Yeah. Just the inconsistencies, And that's

761
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,679
a nice way of saying lies of
all these people not really being who they're

762
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:31,519
supposed to their true Well, you're
right, you're going it's back to the

763
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:35,800
casting. Like you said, you're
right, they're they fucked up on the

764
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,559
casting, big deal, big time. Yeah. Was Bill enjoyed it?

765
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:44,960
Okay, we did. We're talking
about it for an hour. Was there

766
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,119
anything else I'm trying to think of
these couples? Uh? Oh so Chris

767
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:55,199
Chris so, mister guy. Yeah, mister, how come we weren't raking

768
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,360
him over the coals? He's like, yeah, so he he was like,

769
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,360
I'm all in even poor Vanessa.
Poor Vanessa got raked over of Nick

770
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,599
and Vanessa got raked over the colds. Last year, she was the worst

771
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:13,000
host she was in. She asked
them too many questions, and then I

772
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:15,280
saw and read it. People were
like, why didn't she ask more?

773
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:19,679
She can't? Like she no,
you can't. You All you wanted was

774
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:22,599
for her to mind her own business
and just let them show what they wanted

775
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:27,480
to share. Ask if anybody's pregnant, that's for sure to blind babies this

776
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:32,039
time exactly. So when so when
Chris was like at the barbecue and he's

777
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:35,639
like, oh, I'm totally into
Johnny. We're all in for each other,

778
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,679
you know, then apparently he's just
cheating on her. She goes out

779
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:44,239
of town or whatever he got back
and then comes back. Yeah, ghosts,

780
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,000
sir. And she was not even
like what the fuck, bro?

781
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,719
She just well she might have been. Then remember this is a year and

782
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,719
a half that had transpired when right, but no, nobody was like Chris,

783
00:52:54,760 --> 00:53:00,519
what the hell, how how dare
you? But I mean, poor

784
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:04,840
oh, Aliyah was like gonna be
the was, you know, persona non

785
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,480
grata for having cheated on some past
boyfriend all over the place. Yeah all

786
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:14,199
right, maybe it was fun.
There's a lot of hypocrisy in this and

787
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:17,639
and in him being like, yeah, I really did I really just fully

788
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,119
cheated on her. Yeah, I
just I just got into a brand new

789
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:25,960
relationship and never told her. You
know what my problem is, it's just

790
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:31,159
really hard for me to give people
bad news something about me. I'm just

791
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,760
too nice. I'm just too nice
a guy. I don't want to hurt

792
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,000
people's feelings, so I just cheat
on them, fully live with somebody else

793
00:53:38,039 --> 00:53:40,480
and never tell the person. Oh
but he also, I love how he

794
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:44,400
framed. He goes, you know, yeah, it was hurtful for Johnny.

795
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:47,760
But if I had not done that
to Johnny and stepped all over her,

796
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,159
yeah, I wouldn't have found the
love that I exactly, I wouldn't

797
00:53:52,199 --> 00:53:54,920
be so happy right now. Look
at her crying. But it's all for

798
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,519
a good reason, my happiness.
And we're bros. Or now almost said

799
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:05,880
that they were roused friend. We're
friends' friends. Yeah oh yeah, yeah,

800
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:09,239
yeah, but it was because when
is he made out with her and

801
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,239
then was like, I feel bad
towards Chris. Did that bother you?

802
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,239
And Chris goes no, not really, No one gives a ship. This

803
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:22,920
is all for John bunch of narcissism
now crazy. Well, I think we

804
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:25,039
covered everybody. I think we did. Yeah, this is pretty fun.

805
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,039
And if you don't like Last Player
Golden Bachelor, we apologize Bad TV podcast,

806
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:32,480
Bad TV podcasts. If you like
Below Deck, I feel like we're

807
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:36,480
doing pretty well with that show,
another blow deck podcast, but bad TV

808
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:39,119
is the one we want to grow. We're doing Golden Bachelor in Winterhouse,

809
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:44,960
which is a crossover from Below Deck
and all the other Bravo So you have

810
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:49,639
multiple episodes per week. One of
them is below Deck every week Blow Deck.

811
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:52,400
We're trying to do two episodes a
week for below Deck, and we

812
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,840
have two episodes a week on Bad
Tv, one being Golden Bachelor and the

813
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:00,519
second one being Winterhouse. Got muscles
have on all your success. Thank you,

814
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,880
yes, thank you, Pat.
We love you Patrick, and we

815
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:07,679
love you all. Right, come
back, yeah, come back your thanks

816
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:13,480
for letting us use your house.
Yes, thank you guys, all bye,

817
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right, letting go