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Good morning, Good morning, good
morning, and we are talking with our

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US Congressman joshper Keene. Welcome back, welcome back. You've got some more

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of these city halls coming up,
and you've got one of live and one

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of them that everybody can participate in. You talk them about today, We've

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got one at four thirty in the
Claremore area, and so Harvey Baptist Church,

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I believe is the location. And
so I encourage people at four thirty

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today Harvey Baptist Church, Claremore or
the Vertigers town Hall. Encourage people to

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show up tom if if they're able, and let us hear what's important to

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them, what they see that we're
doing wrong and right on the federal level

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and could be informed better. Let's
get right into it. Then. We

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just had a nice little vote about
the death feeling. Yes, I like

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to get your perspective on that,
so I voted no. Congressman Hearn,

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who used to you know, cover
Bartlezville was also another no vote. And

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I think it's important to point out
that there were more Democrats that supported that

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on the floor of the House of
Representatives than than Republicans. I think it's

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important people to know if they're evaluating, was it really a good deal for

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for our nation? I can tell
you I was not convinced that it was

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a good deal for the American people. And the greatest measurement I would do

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it quantitatively, by the math,
by the numbers. A month ago we

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passed limits Saved Grow, which was
an extension of the debt with a nine

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hundred billion dollars in cuts Year one
significant. That was the largest cuts that

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had ever happened in the past.
The House of Representatives ever some total year

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one cuts nine hundred billion. This
deal where they're talking about the cuts,

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Heritage will tell you it's twelve billion, which you know, in for anybody

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who's listening, millions billions. What
is twelve billion? In contrast though,

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to nine hundred billion dollars that we
passed, it's three weeks ago. It's

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only one percent. And so in
Washington say, theyve played this game for

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a lot of years, whereas we'll
always do the cuts in year two,

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three, four, or five,
and those cuts never materialize. So it's

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a way to get you to chase
you know, don't look behind the curtain

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at the guy pulling levers and spinning
wheels. That's the way has Washington has

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got us into this debt cycle that
we're in. And so when the House

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Republicans voted for three weeks ago a
Limit Saving Grow Act that included eight different

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policy reforms, and then just year
one cuts that were nine hundred billion,

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and now this deal, the Biden
McCarthy agreement, is a one percent of

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the cuts that we passed out of
the House of Representatives year one cuts.

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Some of us said, that's not
a concession far enough that to change the

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trajectory for this nation. Within five
years, we're going to have a trillion

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dollars that we're going to spend just
to service the interest payments on our debt

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in five years. That happens to
us, and so we're losing this country

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in terms of miles, and we're
making millimeter adjustments, and we don't have

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the time for that anymore. We
are kicking the can down the road.

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And in addition to not getting the
year one cuts that we thought we thought

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we should be there, Ronald Reagan
said, if somebody agrees with you seventy

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eighty percent, then take the seventy
eighty percent, come back and get the

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rest one percent of what we passed
three weeks ago is not seventy or eighty

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percent. It's not even fifty percent. Many of us wanted that White House

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and the Senate Democrats to come to
the table and be able to find a

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solution, and even in divided government, I led one more things again,

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eight different policy reforms that were part
of that we passed three weeks ago.

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One of those work requirements, we
were going to get able bodied people back

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to work. Then this deal,
according to the Congressional Budget Office, now

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it's going to cost two billion more
in what we're going to do for TANF

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and SNAP. There were some minor
tweaks, but there were also adjustments that

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were going to be permanent. And
the sum total on the quote work requirement

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reforms is the CBO says it'll cost
US two billion dollars more over the ten

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year window, and it's going to
add eighty thousand people more to the Tanneth

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and SNAP rials. How is that
reform true reform for our able body people

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that are able to work at are
you know, on the dependency of the

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of the federal government. We're talking
with Congressman Josh Purckem and Josh, you're

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part of the tenacious twenty. How
does this reflect on the speaker? Well,

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um, so there's something that happens
on a vote that you have a

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rule vote, which is where it
sets the structure of what that vote is

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going to look like. And so
they were about twenty plus about another nine

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who voted not only against the bill
but also against the rule. That was

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one of them. And I went
and had a conversation with the speakers,

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one of those you know, key
staffers afterwards, and it's one of those

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things that you're told in Washington,
DC when you first get up there,

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that do not vote against the rule. But as thus shared with him,

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I believe that's the if i'm my
yes is yes and my no is no.

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If I'm really against something, I'm
really against it. And that didn't

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want to have hypocrisy. And so
we almost stymied by stopping the rule.

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There was a place just before the
true vote on the bill. We almost

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stopped the bill. But then you
all of a sudden, after a stalemate,

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you said, about forty or fifty
Democrats start making their way to the

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floor and flipping their votes. And
according to the reports that we're getting,

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they were offered earmarks to be able
to quote give them earmark parody. So

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that's again, look what I learned
from Tom Coburn when I was on the

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staff years ago, is earmarks or
the gateway drugged overspending. So they flipped

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Democrats according to their premiument their reports
to be able to get them to support

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the rule on this deal because offering
earmarks to make them look good back in

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their districts. And that's that's sad, Tom, That's that's swamp. That

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swamp is them. And so for
many of us, I do want I

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do not want to be a person
as I shared this with the Speaker staff

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in gentleness, because I believe in
being gentle and having hardstands. I said,

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look, this wasn't designed to um, you know, thumb you in

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the eye. It was designed to
say, we expect this this conference to

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start pulling to the right, to
have in those negotiations, to have true

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conservative ideology, that is, pull
into the right, not pill pastel that

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the Republicans for so long have been
have been, you know, moving trying

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to play defense all the time,
and we never go on the offense to

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turn this country around. We are
losing this nation, not only financially but

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also in this that the woke ideology
that's taken us hard left. The time

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for half measures is no more.
I'm speaking of the nation and protecting it.

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Protecting the borders is another big thing
that you've been working on too.

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You've been druggling a lot of big
issues. Yeah. Um, Look,

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one of the things that's breaking.
I don't know how much is getting on

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the national front. I'm on the
Homeland Security Committee, and of course Secretary

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of my workers, you know,
is over the Homeland Security Department for the

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United States under him, over the
nineteen thousand border patrol agents is a gentleman

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by the name of Roel Ortiz.
About a month ago at a hearing,

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maybe a little more than a month
ago, I asked him the same day

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that he responded truthfully, he serves
the Biden administration. He responded to Mark

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Greene that we do not have operational
control. To his integrity, he said,

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we do not have operational control of
that border, which contrast with Secretary

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my Orcas has been saying. And
then I asked him within an hour,

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do you disagree with President Biden's decision? When he used to support when he

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was edith senator, he used to
support physical bearers. Do you disagree with

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his decision on day twenty thirty to
buy his executive order by his pen shutting

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down those physical barriers that in two
thousand and six as US Senator, he

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voted for physical barriers fencing, saying, quote in two thousand and six,

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the reason why I support fencing is
because of the illegal drugs. At a

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point through, I said, do
you disagree with President Biden's decision to shut

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down the two hundred and fifty mile
of border wall that's a Congress appropriated funds

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for and him by one stroke of
his pen shutting it down. And he

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responded yes, sir, saying he
made national news. Fox News picked it

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up. So we learned two days
ago he has turned in his resignation,

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so that you know details to be
forthcoming. Was he forced out because he's

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chosen to stand up for truth even
at his own detriment. But we need

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more people like that that are willing
to put their country's best interest first.

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We started off talking about your town
hall and the verdicts, but you've got

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a telephone town hall. How does
that work? Well? Um this is

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something that um as I went back
in the free market years ago. I

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wasn't really aware of these until I
got elected to Congress. How these are

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often utilized. We're also doing the
live town halls. We've done thirty five

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live town halls in this first four
or five six months. And but we're

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also doing teleone telephone town halls where
it gives the opportunity for people to be

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able to get on a phone call
and by people asking a question, submit

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a question, then we'll discuss that
on air and and so that's something we've

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done once. This will be our
second one. I leave. It's June

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sixth at seven pm and UH and
so we encourage people to go to Burking

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dot house dot gov b R E
C H, E E N if they'd

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like to participate, and they can
call and we'll have a good discussion

