The views and opinions expressed by the guests of Sasquatch Experience do not necessarily reflect
the opinion of the host, sponsors, or affiliates of the Sasquatch Experience.
As always, listener, discretion is advised. And what are your port We
got someone or something crawling around out here? Does a legend walk among us
working in the forests of our world? Do you see what it was?
Well? That a person or an animal or I can't go all I knowed
if my thenter light came on and I hid that with a glimp. And
see this thing running across the yard, A good sized man or something worked
like a man. I don't know what it was. For over fifteen years
we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to gain insight
and truth around the existence of this mysterious entity. Jesus quite hello, Get
somebody out of here. What's going on? Amount there? I thought of
a bittus about sixty four? All right, I don't know easy amount there?
Yes, I'm looking right out. Okay, hang on right, Get
in your yards there, yeah, got you big? Okay, what do
you do in your yard? Join us as we continue into the investigation of
the Sasquatch Experience. And goody everyone, Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience Monday,
July seventeenth, twenty twenty three, home of the second longest intro and Bigfoot
Podcasting, your friends. That's right here at the Sasquatch Experience. I'm Sean
the fort Chop Forker. Next to me Vince Nesbitt. Way over there on
the end is James Baker, the birthday boy. Wish him a happy birthday.
He's fifty. Little birthday to you. Happy little birthday to you,
Happy little James Baker, Happy little birthday to you. You're giddy older.
That was beautiful vance. How about that? Wow? Right underneath me is
Henry May. Yes, he's alive, as you can see by that chairbic
face bouncing around with joy. Down in the middle Matt Arner, our chief
of security and still rather new member of the team. And down in the
bottom corner our guests Tonight Larson from Central Florida, Bigfoot, and of course,
guys, we're here to talk about swamp apes. The swamp Apes Part
at three. Here Season seven of the Sasquatch Experience A Part three we've been
kind of going in this impromptu series, and I think we've had some good
trips along the way. Matt, thanks for joining us here tonight. We're
really glad you stop by. You were highly recommended by Mike Ann and we're
just glad you joined us. Oh well, I appreciate you having me.
I hope I can live up to that what we do too, because as
the cabell No, I'm kidding, I'm just kidding. Matt, Central,
Florida says it, all right, how did you get started into this bigfoot
mystery? I take it it probably wasn't as traditional as everyone else. Actually
it kind of was. I about four years ago, I don't even think
I had been on YouTube other than a quick popover. Didn't understand it and
popped out. I mean, I don't I can't even tell you what I
watched. But about three almost three and a half years ago, I had
knee surgeries, laid up and kind of like week two I was going crazy.
You know, you're out for five weeks. So I had a left
knee replaced, and that really started for me. You know, I just
jumped over on YouTube and somehow something popped up on my feed locked us,
Monster washed it, Stonehenge washed it. You know, just kind of went
down the rabbit hole from what I remember doing as a kid and landed on
big Foot and got called up with some big Foot channels, where you know,
I kind of got up to speed real quick about what Bigfoot world was
all about, and just kind of was a follower of every channel I could
possibly follow for about a year, and then started hearing, you know,
stuff about Florida, because I, like everybody else, I thought it was
the Pacific, you know, northwest. So I started listening to some channels
they started talking about Florida, and one day someone said, well, you
know, you can do it anywhere. Just get off the couch and go
check out the woods near you. And I started doing that. And there's
an interesting story to that. Because I started doing it like everybody else does
it. I started emulating all the channels I was watching, which is really
funny because I'm actually a professional photographer, made my living with a camera,
you know, for fifty years now. So I just started doing everything that
you see the channels do. And then one day I went, wait a
minute, is this how I would do it as a professional? No,
And so I flipped the script and then just started approaching it a totally different
way. But really it was through knee surgery and just you know, recovery.
I hear a lot of stories. They're all real, real similar.
Actually, now you were you said you were flipping through YouTube found a whole
bunch of different uh uh, you know, content creators and researchers out there.
What were some of the things that really interested you in starting this.
I mean, you know, you're laid up trying to get back out there,
professional photographer. What did you think you could do a little differently or
what was your impetus to, like, you know, I just got to
do this. Well, focusing the camera was number one. Um, I
already I already have that down. So I really often refer to myself as,
uh, not so much a researcher. But well, at first that
first year, I did emulate, and I used an iPhone and I did
what everybody else was doing. And then I went, wait a minute,
I got gear, you know, I got knowledge, I can I can
do better than this. And when I started flipping it, what interested me
was what I call forest language, what other people referred to as evidence of
a bigfoot and so I got hooked on the bins, the breaks, the
glyphs, anything you would find, you know, normally walking through the woods,
and that whole first year, you know, I went for hook line
and sinker that, Oh my gosh, this is this is bigfoot, you
know, and it must be bigfoot. I hadn't noticed this stuff before.
And watching these channels, I know, I watched them channels that are probably
I would I wouldn't watch today, nor would I recommend today for new people
entering the field. But I did kind of jokingly, I say, I
got my master's degree off a couple of channels that are really the channels I
would recommend today. And I'm not one for, you know, throwing grenades
on people. You know, there's entertainment channels, and then there's research channels,
and then there's other things. But I kind of come at it like
now a year later after I got into it, like, wait a minute,
I'm not a researcher. I'm a hired gun. I'm coming in as
a gun slinger, and I'm looking for movement and I know how to use
a camera. I'm looking for sharp focus, and I'm using every tool I
can throw at it, including gimbals, telephoto lenses on gimbals, I don't
see anybody doing that. I don't see anybody walking with a two three hundred
millimeter lens stabilized one hundred yards on a woodline in front of you as you're
walking, or over the shoulder. You see a lot of this GoPro stuff
over the shoulder. It's not gonna ever move the ball forward. So I
started using gimbals, and I started going down the rabbit hole night vision,
you know, ten ADP night vision, and then in the fleers and two
seventy blinds, and just started really buying equipment that I thought would get me
out there. So that's really it. I just approach it as as you
know, someone coming into Carson City and I'm the gunslinger. Everybody's got to
worry about, and I'm not gonna. I got trouble the first three four
months when I started. After a year, I started my talking channel like
this, and I kind of overstepped one night and said, you know,
if you're into Bigfoot ten twenty thirty forty years, I don't. I don't
want to talk to you. I'm not interested at all. And anybody was
like, what do you mean by that, I, well, you've been
doing it so long you don't have anything. You know, from my understanding,
fifty years, we don't have anything. So no, I didn't mean
that they're stupid and I didn't want to hear anything from them. I just
didn't want to be tainted. I didn't want to learn practices that weren't best
practices, and so I meant that in a respectaful way, but it came
off wrong. But it took me about two or three weeks to really articulate
what I really meant. It's not that I disrespect them in any way.
It's just like, I don't really want to know what you're doing because I
need to. It tells me that if nothing's been done in fifty years,
I need to approach this as a baby bigfooter that I am, and just
not be not had these people going off on ear that this is how you
do it because nobody knows how to do it. No. I think one
of the more important thing is though, that Matt, you're bringing in a
professional level of ability. And one of the things I've talked about for a
long time that a problem that's very pervasive within the community is that we're not
technical experts in the field where we really need to be. And from Matt,
Matt and Eye's perspective, you know, part of the reason why we
haven't gotten real good evidence in the last fifty sixty years is because nobody knows
how to collect it right and instead of taking the time, which people are
doing now, but instead of taking that time and learning, it's uh,
you know, we seem to be stuck in that constant loop of repeat.
And where I think is beneficial and I think you know, something that I
appreciate about Mike Ann and about Matt and you know others is that there is
that desire to get better and learn so we can collect better evidence and finally
get some proof because we kind of need it. We're really, I personally
believe that without silent evidence, we're running out of time for things to be
taken. Seriously, you know, it's already on borrowed time in some aspects.
Yeah, I agree with that, you know, Matt, I would
like to, oh, go ahead, Henry. Oh, just it's always
interesting how a creature so harry as the skunt gape can actually survive in the
humidity of Florida. I think, I think Henry makes a valid point because
today I tried to work on my shed and like I felt like I lost
thirty pounds and sweat in two minutes. And I'm not in four hundred to
six hundred pound creature covered in complete hair, especially on top. But I
mean, like that's that's the one thing. But we also have to look
at the fact this, and I think Henry would agree if he's still alive
over there, is that we are we are not We are prone to our
environment too. So like people live in Florida where coats in September. When
I went to Florida in September, I wanted to peel it all off and
not die and not get arrested, you know, and they're wearing coats.
There's people in California and eighty degree California weather and they got sweaters on.
You know. You look at you look at the old timey pictures of the
people from the Old West, and they had full on suits and like,
you know, like dresses that were like you know this thick, you know,
yet they weren't dying in the street. But we go out in seventy
five eighty degree were and a little bit more humidity and We're all like,
oh my god, this is just hell. You know. So train yeah,
and you know, I think I think about the heat question a lot
um. We're kind of having to suspend um what we were trying to accomplish.
I got a trailcam way out. I mean, I mean we're talking
way out. It's like four hours by e bike out, okay. And
to put some people may ask, well, how do you get four miles
out in a wildlife quarter? You know, in Florida, it's not it's
not hard to do, but Florida set up like other places. You know,
you pull off the side of the road, there's a trailhead, you
park, and there's these preserves that are fairly good sized. Nothing to like
you know what's up north in the northeast or the northwest. But you you
got to understand you can't get through them. You know, you can be
a mile and not make it across, which we discovered a couple of weekends
ago. We were both facing heat distress in some ways, and the two
weeks before that, my partner Brian, tried to go out and retrieve the
camera on his own to surprise me, and he went down a couple of
times and I found out about it, and I said, don't don't ever
do that again. The camera's not that important. The first we put it
out there, we both had to stop and I had on my ebike,
I had a little soft pack of ice that was frozen with a couple of
Seltzer's in there. And thank goodness, you know that we were prepared with
the water and stuff, but we had to stop in one little shady area
and literally just just I had to put ice on them, you know that
we were and I was feeling it too. It wasn't just Brian. But
what to the point Now we're going to have to kind of slow it down
and think smart and work, you know, switched to kayaks and stay on
the e bikes. And there are some stuff you can do by truck,
you know. There are some stuff you can get into some really gnarly roads,
you know, with a four wheel and you can get back there.
So we're just gonna have to suspend the off trail like we were doing.
I mean we were going three miles in by truck, a mile two miles
out by kayak, down a creek, hiding the kayaks, and going another
mile to two miles out you know, through the swamp, you know,
pretty much all of it off trail. I'm getting too old for that,
you know, and and because I'm obviously older than you guys, but it's
um, it's dangerous. I'm realizing that with my knee and my health that
I gotta work smarter and I'm trying to work faster. But the water question,
the heat you all brought up, is interesting and I kind of diverse
to that. But but I have a theory about Florida swamp eight because I
am out there. I do know how thick it is. I hear people
all the time, and there can't be anything in Florida and not in a
corridor. You know, you're you know, you're crazy, Matt. Well,
anybody's welcome to come down. Anybody is welcome to come down. I'll
take you out and I will make a believer out of you really quick.
I think water plays a key role. And I think a lot of times
they're in water, meaning they're suppurged in water, laying on their backs,
laying on their stomach. I mean that's if they're out there. I don't
even know if they're out there, but I've been out there. I felt
the heat. If these things are covered with hair, they gotta be in
the water. And if you think about it, if you ever laid in
a bathtub and put your ears underwater and just listen to your household around you,
it's like the old put in your ear when you watch the Old you
know Zoro and Tom Too and all that, where they used to put their
ear to the train track and fill the vibration of the train because you know,
when you're standing up, think can hit you and you won't even know
it was coming. But you put your ear to the ground, it's a
different story. If you submerge your ears and water, it's a totally different
story. And when you realize that that that could be a game changer.
You're never you know, people are going. You and Brian are too loud.
You're too loud. You're in the woods talking, dude, You're not
going if this thing is there, you're not going to sneak up on this
thing. But to counter that, we go out and wind and rain.
We're not afraid to go out in thirty five forty mine hour win knowing that
hey since gone in one direction, you got a fighting chance on three other
directions, and the one day we did that. Two months ago, we
were almost gored by like a six eight point buck charging us down a game
trail because we were way off trail and we didn't see it. It didn't
see us until we were face to face. It lowered its head and came
right at us, missed us by like ten feet. And I did catch
that on camera on the back end of it going by because I swished my
pro from a chess mount. Bad practice. If any of you all wearing
a GoPro in your chest get rid of it, not the way to do
it, my opinion, and everything I say tonight is my opinion. But
as soon as I moved it to my helmet and put my GoPro on my
helmet and stabilized it with a stabilizer lens, a model lens that they make
for the GoPro nine, ten and eleven game changer, and guess what it
got off my chest? You don't hear like the one I just released the
chapter, I just releases all breathing. But once I moved my GoPro to
my helmet, it fixed the breathing problem. And then I also moved my
recorder to my helmet and faced it backwards. So I'm I'm running an h
in one back there, so like Mike and taking cues from Mike. I'm
constantly evolving how I work and use the gear, and I switch off a
lot. But I'm coming up with, you know, a series of best
best practices that I'm trying to pass on to new people coming up. But
you know, you don't go Scooba diving without taking a scuba class and learn
about decompression and in depthing and you know decompression sickness and stuff. Well,
why in the hell would you go looking for a sasquatch and not take a
film class. I don't get it. So that is my pet peeve that,
oh I want to go out and start a big foot channel and go
look for bigfoot and they're running around with a GoPro and an iPhone. Well
that's fine. I'm not saying you're not gonna get it in Florida. You
know, what do you use in Florida when you hunt? You use a
shotgun? Or you do you use a thirty at six. It's a different
ball game in Florida. So GoPro is not bad in Florida, but you
have to have you have to be able to think of some other things.
And I'm thinking of those other things, like when I hit a prairie,
my eyes are at a hundred yards and my cameras at one hundred yards.
But my camera one hundred yards is like your camera from twenty thirty yards.
It's a different ball game, right. You know, Matt, this begs
the question, and you know, Shaun it myself, a few others have
had this conversation in the past. Older technology, and we're talking forty year
ago technology, it seems to have had more prevalence in being able to capture
things such as a castete recorder regarding the CIRA sounds regarding the PG film on
a hand wound not bad or reoperated piece of equipment. I'm wondering what your
opinion is if okay, well, there you go, right. I'm wondering
if you find greater success with older technology in order to capture something instead of
something that's giving off frequency, even as such as a trail camp that may
have infrared and just makes it peculiar to creatures. I understand there are some
creatures with a smaller brain capacity that may not understand or think of it as
a threat, but a creature with the larger brain capacity may see it as
a threat and stay away from that area. I'm wondering on what your take
is on that. Well, this is where I go into my I mentioned
on my trailcam that I bought a Reveal black black light trailcam, and that's
what I'm catching all these shots with. And I remember pulling that out and
someone goes, oh, Matt Man, you went with a trailcam. Everybody
knows that bigfoot can see infrared. I don't listen to any of that stuff.
That's where people get tripped up and get themselves in trouble until I prove
that or see that myself. But I tell you my Reveal trailcam, the
one sixty nine that satellite sends me the images I can download high res load
both videos. And still I have yet to have any of those bobcats raccoons
I got a kyle. I know their feeding pattern, I know they're hunting
pattern. After twelve weeks, I pretty much know what they're doing. Not
one time did they look at the camera. Right, Okay, So I
haven't run into that, so I can't say that's true or all at all,
Nor do I go by those rules. I go by my rule of
experience and what I have experienced, and so I'm not again, I'm not
disrespecting anybody that's out there, but like life as a pathway, he's really
good with trailcam. I go to him for my trailcam knowledge if I need
something like that. But I'm not gonna not use a piece of equipment or
switch to analog equipment just because everybody says my phone goes off you know this,
or that the batteries die. I've had stuff like that happened. My
phone went off into the last chapter I produced, they finally went off and
started playing something. Never had that happen to me. But if you look
at the video I release, I never once said it was bigfoot. I
didn't even react to it like it was bigfoot, and neither did Irant.
You know, I'm still in the flesh and blood camp until I think otherwise.
But then I'm also someone who has seen a ghost with two other people,
and we all saw the same thing. So it's not like I'm not
open to it, but I'm not ready to go portal. And you know,
I who was just kind of looking more for your unbiased opinion as far
as equipment goes, and the possibility that you have a larger skull, a
larger brain capacity that may be able to I'm just throwing it out there,
that may be able to understand peculiarity a little bit better than white tailed deer
or raccoons that might be in the area. That's all. Yeah, I
mean, I'm I'm taking this out. I'm gonna probably wrap up this year
taking the sixteen millimeter out a lot, but it's more on the the benefits
of having the documentary and having it out there. But I tell you,
analog equipment is loud. You know. DSLR shutters are loud. This sixteen
millimeter camera. I don't know if you all heard this thing run. It's
probably some of the issues I have but with the PG film. But right,
yeah, it's not UM plus it it's heavy and so um I don't
have any problems with And you know, I was gonna do a test,
and I was gonna use my channel as a tech channel and say, this
is a film DSLR next to my digital Lumix, next to a GoPro and
shoot frame by frame by frame and do all this stuff. But I don't
need to do that. My my popp into big Foot World for the next
year. I'm going to be here, you know, that'd be my third
year. I kind of made a goal of myself. I'm gonna be like
an investigative reporter photojournalist popping for three years and then kind of, you know,
not produce film for consumer consumption, Like this is me going out in
the woods. Look at me. I want to just go private with it.
I'll have my group of friends, i will share footage. I will
always have two cameras running. And that's another thing. I run two cameras
all the time. If I'm not if I'm running a GoPro, I'm running
an iPhone. If I'm running a GoPro, I'm also running. My loomis
on you know, stabilized on a gimbal so and I start that as soon
as I walk away from the truck. So there's not going to be in
this stuff. Or if my iPhone is in my pocket, a big foot
walking across the road. You know, if you're gonna do this, how
many stories have we heard like that? So best practices be running all the
time, right, you're not shooting film? Film is expensive, you know,
so why not buy three three cards and run all the time. My
GoPro run five six hours on a disc. Ye have. I gotta you
know, pretty good sized disc in this thing. But I'm also using the
mode lens on it. I'm using that stabilized lens on it. Yeah,
so it goes, it goes down from four K to two point seven K.
But so am I going to give away the digital advantage just because someone
told me that these creatures can sensus stuff. I'm not there yet. I'm
not there yet because to me, all the sightings are road crossings or happenstance
crossings. It's not like their crossings with us, the six of us going
out looking for Bigfoot. You're not seeing anybody doing anything like that. So
the is just be prepared. Have a dash cam, you know, if
you're if you want a knee bike, put you know, front and back
facing cameras on it. When you're just out and enjoying the woods having fun.
I think that's how it's going to happen. It's not gonna happen with
us, not I have to agree. I think you're right. I do.
That's just how I'm at now, you know, Yeah, I mean
this kind of this kind of takes away from it, but I do want
to throw this out here um with you, with your your skills and knowledge.
Is I've been taking out a digital SLR with the zoom lens when I
when I go out um anymore? Um is there as a photographer, do
you want that to be an automatic or do you want to set the focal
length UH, the ISO, the f stop to a certain uh setting to
get that that shot that you know, far away shot. What would you
suggest for someone that's carrying a digital SLR camera that that wants to take uh
photos like that and would have it ready to take a photo if they do
see something crossing or something in the distance. Well, I'll tell you I'm
on automatic of the time, okay. And the main thing is if I'm
not running it, well, I'm pretty much on my Lumix. I have
a pretty wicked Lumix camera. If you haven't seen it, it's on one
of my earlier videos. But the lens when extended, I have it right
there. I could get up and grab it, but it's alms. It's
an FZ twenty five hundred, so the lens is basically a twenty eight millimeter
to a four hundred and sixty millimeter. Wow, and so. But it's
also I can put the lens. If I'm holding up this flash drive,
I can literally take the lens and touch it and it's focused with the lens
hood on, which is about that far. It's focused. Oh wow.
Okay, So tell me in bigfoot world, what else do you need than
a camera that shoots from three inches focus to get hair samples, fingerprint samples,
whatever, and be able while live on auto have the camera literally touching
the lens, pull away into something and guarded thirty yards ahead of me.
The focus is instantaneous. You cannot run an analog camera that fast correct correct.
And the other thing about the limits is the fcent when the lens extends.
When you turn it on, the lens extends, and when it extends
it stays there. It doesn't it doesn't grow or shorten. It stays at
a fixed focal length. The elements inside is what's moving. Okay, and
see what's happened when you put that on a gimbal and like if you were
to have a nikon or a cannon with a one oh five on againble and
take it off. I want to do some wide angle video you got to
set down and rebalance everything, and you're not going to find a level place
in the woods to balance. So that's the problem with the gimbal. You
get one shot at it on your truck bed before you go out, and
God forbid you fall like I did the other day, or walking down a
sidewalk. But I would stay on otto. The main thing you need to
learn other than just being on auto and have it running continuous. If I
could give any advice would be know how to put it in manual focus.
How many stories have you heard were, well, that's a big foot,
but it focused on the twigs in front of them. Dude, that's not
an excuse. That's not an excuse. It's one switch of the thumb and
you you grab the front Len's element and you focus, and you can lock
focus on there and stand there and shoot all day, and you can lock
back and forth around the twigs. If you think it's still behind this twig,
you can go up and down and your camera's gonna lock focus because you're
in manual focus. So I would stay on auto focus most of the time,
but b know how to use manual and that's really all you need to
do. That is excellent advice. So it is. Yeah, it is
very good, Matt, Matt, great questions folkus. We've got to jump
into the mid hour break. I'm sewn the fort chap Forker vance has been
James Baker, Henry May, Matt Arner, and our guest tonight, Matt
from Central Florida. Bigfoot folks, stick around, We'll be right back.
Steve a symboy running your thoughts for campers in Tawas County. The Sheriff's office
is sharing safety tips on social media to protect yourself from yep big Foot.
The Morning says they are coming out of the high country to feed near the
Kern River. They recommend not running from or chasing big Foot, maybe because
it doesn't exist, but they do suggest you take pictures if you see one.
Ah. Yes, another news anchor who knows nothing about everything, blowing
opinions out of soup cooler. Welcome Monday night to the Sasquatch experienced Bigfoot bull
horn. I hope you're all having a good Monday night. Let's jump right
into it as to what this story has to do with a correlation of big
Foot. Out of Nebraska, a goat was captured after weeks underlining weeks on
the loose. Back on July thirteenth, an escaped goat that a looted capture
for several weeks in Nebraska was finally captured by animal control officers. Lincoln,
Nebraska. Animal Control said in a Facebook post that it's Goat Interdiction task Force
to have A task force to capture goat was mobilized when the goat was spotted
near Leech Camper Sales in Lincoln, Nebraska. The goat had been spotted on
multiple occasions during the past few weeks, and at one point let authorities on
a chase through the University of Nebraska's Lincoln's East campus. The post said that
the goat was finally captured thanks to the help of a fence and the awesome
employees at Leech Camper Sales. I suppose the task force was nowhere to be
found, but the goat was taken to the Humane Society. Now you suppose
of this goat was six to ten feet tall and walked on two legs that
a fence would have stopped it. The brain of a goat and it remained
elusive. Correlation and a tropical bird spotted for the very first time in Pennsylvania.
Also on July thirteenth, a tropical bird found in Pennsylvania Wildlife Area is
believed to be the first of its species ever spotted in the state. According
to wildlife experts, the bird, discovered at Middle Creek Wildlife Management Area was
identified as a limpkin, a tropical species not commonly found north of Florida.
Birdwatchers had been flocking to the area. I see what they did there to
catch a glimpse of the rare visitor. It's when these things happened that we
don't expect to see, or a rarer or new and they show up.
Makes it really cool and refreshing and it's a new burst into the hobby.
According to Ted Nichols, president of the Lancaster County Bird Club, it's just
really good moment for birding. The Pennsylvania Game Commission said in a Facebook post
that the visit marks the first time on record that a limpkin had been spotted
in Pennsylvania. When we come back after this brief break, we have a
couple of announcements to make, so stick around. You're listening to the sasquatch
experience Got knockers. Now I have Knickers. We'll get your knockers at Got
Knockers a Bigfoot a pair a line dedicated to the creature known to knock on
trees in the dead of night. This exclusive design is world renowned and can
be discovered by you by visiting Etsy at gott Knockers Etsy et Shy gott Knockers.
Once you purchase a gott Knockers wear, will feel free to join the
group on Facebook. Were a cast of thousands meat and chat with some of
the biggest names in sas Squatcherie. Again, that's gott Knockers on Etsy and
Got Knockers on Facebook. Well, now big announcement. Time on the big
Foot bullhorn. Get ready, get a pencil in paper, I'll give you
a moment. Okay, time's up. Central Pa Bigfoot Encrypted Festival this coming
August twelfth of this year at Memorial Park Avenue and Ellisburg, Pennsylvania. H
Smile, gentleman, if you intend on going. Oh, of course,
Matt and Sean and Baker will be there and it's going to be a fun
event. Hopefully they can tie me in visually to that event. But once
again, that's the Central Pa Bigfoot encryptid Festival. August twelfth of twenty twenty
three, Memorial Park Avenue in Ellisburg, Pennsylvania. Also certainly last, but
not least, Jefferson County Bigfoot and Paranormal Expode twenty three is gonna be on
Saturday, August twenty sixth of this year and it runs from nine am to
six pm at Renlow Park, Reynoldsville, Pennsylvania. Thanks again for listening to
this edition of The big Foot Bullhorn exclusively on the Sasquatch Experience. And until
next time, keep your toes in the mud. And now back to three
men and a baby. Something's wrong with you when you do you have too
much time on your hands. Thanks NS for that lovely segment. We appreciate
the news each and every other week here on the Sasquatch Experience. Big Foot
bull Horn Vance nesbit right there, the big Foot bull horny dude as you
can see a title under his name, And folks, if you're just joining
us for the first time, thanks thanks for coming in. As you can
tell, we like to have a little bit of humor but a lot a
bit of information, so we're gonna get right back into this. Matt,
go ahead. You had another question for Matt right before we went to break.
I do uh, Matt, I spend a lot of time out in
the field. UM. Just this past weekend, I had something kind of
interesting happened. I'm still trying to go through it. But can you tell
us about some of the experiences you've had in Florida? Um, you know
the experiences that that really stuck stucked out to you. Yeah. I made
a little a little note of that. UM here, let me grab this.
I can't see it. I do post it everybody who knows me.
UM, I love that. Like I said, I'm behind the camera guy,
not out for him. But you know, I did like six or
seven little bullet points of of things that were interesting. UM. No fighting
yet. UM. The first thing I was exposed to was UM would not
or tapping. And that happened when I was riding a bike, before my
e bike days and before my knee was killing me. But I was peddling
a fat tire bike down a trail. I did not know it was not
for bikes. I didn't know that. I didn't read the sign all the
way, and I went down the end and I dropped an earbud on the
way and I stopped and get off the bat bike, and all of a
sudden it was like tap, oh oh, the wouldn't not. But it
wasn't like everyone does, you know where they take a big stick and they
just go wow. This was like I could get your attention, like just
it was just a literally just a in the woods that you could clearly hear.
And I looked and I was just looking for my earbud, and then
all a sudden it was kind of like I looked up. I wanted,
you know, I've by, you know, two years in the field.
I know what a woodpecker is. And I went, I don't know,
maybe maybe you know they do pauls and you know. And then that's saying,
oh, it's like and it's over here, and it's it's on my
channel. I wrote it down. It's um and I put it out here
because if somebody knows what it is and it can debunk it, That's what
I'm all about too. Anybody that knows me, I try to figure it
out then claim anything. But there's probably fifteen wooden knocks and everybody goes fifteen,
it's definitely a woodpecker. I don't know, but it's episode forty eight
on my Central Florida Bigfoot Channel and it's about a minute minute a half long,
but it's I think it's fifteen knocks. That was kind of weird,
and I started getting excited, like those are the wooden knocks everybody's talking about
it. They were, but they were more like over here, over here,
tapped up over here, and then all of a sudden, four rattled
off over here. And it was a strange thing. It got me a
little nervous. I was in my solo day and I was a solo in
this until something happened. Another thing that happened, I'll get to that.
Another thing that happened is I was out. I've gone out with a lot
of people and I've been blessed with And I did this in my career too.
I had five jobs in five years. And I don't know if you
all know what that means. It's like you learn at an incredible fast rate
and then you're board and you change jobs or a better opportunity to come.
And in five years I had the experience of a ten year ad agency marketing
photographer guy, you know, real quick. And then and I was with
these little companies and they beat you up and then I finally went with the
newspaper and there was an audio visual position opened at a newspaper, you know,
running making twelve projector slide shows. You were the photographer, you were
the producer, you're the programmer. You had to build the show, you
had stage or so, set it up and run it for the salespeople.
So I kind of went to a small group to do that. But this
is what happened, so I know it's just working in groups. And then
I so I changed quickly and I followed that model of my business model with
big Footery. It's like I went out with people as soon as I saw
something like, ah, it's not the direction I want to go. Love
you guys, I'm going a different direction right now. I haven't like really
broken ties really badly with anybody, but I've left some people that I didn't
like what they were doing or how they were going about it. But there's
one time we were in a group and there's about seven of us out and
I picked up a stick that I found on the ground. It was a
y branch. It was about the stick and it was literally the letter why.
And I picked it up and I said, wouldn't this be cool if
we found this in a tree and I jammed it in a tree in front
of me like that. Everybody laughed. The other guys were coming up behind
me. I said, no, I don't want to do that, and
you know it, they'll think, you know, I don't. I don't
want to do that. So I took it down. I threw it on
the ground. Twenty minutes later, I'm walking up behind everybody and they go,
Matt, they remember what you said back there And I said, yeah,
yeah, what are you talking about? And they go look up And
I looked up and there was a big ben coming up and we were off
trail, so it wasn't really a trail. It was just an open space
in the woods. But there's just big one inch diameter branch that was bent
over the trail and this four foot y branch came down and paled itself evidently
on it and it was probably four foot tall, balancing on this tree in
plane view for all of us to can see. And we all just sat
there and looked at it, like do you think you know, it's kind
of like a group where you know, my you know, group thing goes
on and we're all going, do you think they heard you and put that
put that branch of the tree exactly but bigger than you picked up, and
it's stuck in a tree like this, And it was just really weird that
kind of happened. Then, after the tree knock bit, I was on
the same trail about a month later, and it had rained, and it
was August August twenty third, twenty twenty last time I went out by myself,
And if you were on a ski slope, it would be the bunny
trail closest to the shelter, closest to the parking lot. I could run
back in probably ten minutes. I'm out there and I'm giving I'm I'm into
the education thing at this point and I said, hey guys, I got
my gimble around my shoulder. I started to say, I got my gimble
around my shoulder today, I got the iPod, the iPhone on a gimble.
I'm trying something new. And as soon as I started to say that
sentence, I didn't know where I was. I literally didn't know where I
was. The water had overflowed the river. I was in ankle deep water.
I looked around and I went I was on a trail that just goes
up here, loops around like you know, the size of a you know,
ten cars, loops around and comes back to the parking lot on the
other side of the river where no one goes. It was on the other
side of this creek, but still very close to a parking lot. Dude,
I'm not to see anything, so I didn't know where I was.
And then I was. This is in my first year, so it was
episode fifteen. I call it tree Falls. I put up a title,
have I Been Zapped? Embarrassing I to this day. I want to take
it down, but I'm leaving it up there because it shows my growth.
So I say, did I see it was izapped? I'm like walking,
and then I put the definition of zapped. And then all of a sudden,
an owl goes off. This is all two o'clock in the afternoon.
I get lost on a bunny trail. I think I'm zapped, not anymore.
I just I don't know what happened. An owl goes off, a
second owl goes off, A third owl goes off, and they're ping ponging
to sound like an owl, but the third one across the creek the real
river. I was on a creek but the one across the river did not
sound like an owl to me. And I made a joke, well,
you know what they say about owls, and I show what an owl?
What they say about the natives about the owl? And then I always do
something in when I'm out in the woods, I call them you hear about
people tell you about bluff charges and stuff like that. I do this little
thing I call random change of direction, and I try not to think about
it because they could be reading your mind. So see, I had all
this bad Bigfoot information stuck in my brain, and so whenever I think about
it, no matter where I'm at, I will change directions and walk ninety
degrees left or right or sometimes around and just walk right back. It's just
a random change of direction thinking. I used to hunt with my brother and
we squirrel hunted, and we used to always walk down the trail and then
bam, two hunters sitting still in the tree stand shoots the deer out behind
us. We never knew it was coming. It happened year after year after
year we had deer shot out as we walked down the trail, they would
come out behind us. So I did this BLUs charge, and I just
walked on. It entered my mind. I went, oh, I'm gonna
go over here, and I started walking into the swamp. Tree falls on
camera at zero degrees and I'm using my iPhone. It falls right at the
camera. You can see it come through the trees. You can see it
splash, and I'm going, what do I do now? And I'm thinking
to myself, what do I do now? And so I just did my
camera up and ended it kind of dramatic, overly dramatic. And I did
that probably on purpose. And I was scared, and I got the hell
out of there, and I started bugging up this trail pretty fast. And
then I went, wait, what am I doing? Let's go back.
So I turned around and forced myself to go back, and I realized I
had a trail cam hanging over my shoulder. So I went out there and
placed the trailcam. Very nervously. I was fiddling. I almost dropped it.
Anyway. The next day I got nothing because I don't even think I
turned it on. I was a nervous and scared. So then I go
back up the trail and I stopped and I go into it. I start
working my limits. I set the iPhone down, I start doing these long
zooms. Well, it looks like I see a nest. And as I'm
walking out there, I see a footprint, a fresh footprint in the swamp,
and I show it. I shoot. It was that a footprint,
And I didn't know much about them at that point because I never expected to
see one, and I overlooked it, just walked right over it and started
going to this nest I saw out there. I couldn't get to it.
It's like knee deep water. And so I'm shooting, shooting the nest,
and then I turned around and go back, and I keep thinking it looks
constructed, you know, And but it was about eighty yards away. So
I have that all my channel. I have returned to the nest and evaluation
of the nest. But basically what it looks like is this picture. If
I don't drop it anti climatic here Oh wow wow, okay, yeah,
so that's after it had fallen apart. That's three months later. It's the
size of a Voltswagon. But what I shot in the nest, hmm,
anybody say anything, it's harder, so I can't. Yeah, that's one
of the things I appreciate in the video as you do those, yeah,
in the actual film, So yeah, I do these little enlargement bubbles.
And what it is is there's a window. There's like a triangle into the
nest and I shot in there when and live you couldn't see anything. But
when I got back and posted as somebody goes, Matt, you need to
look at that. I want there's something sitting there, and I went no,
So I put it. I put the video on crankdi luminosity up and
went, holy crap. It looks like everybody remember the Anjemima syrup for waffles,
and looks like the Anjemima iconic image of Anjemima profile. So what I
see is a profile of a face looking looking this way. Yet I see
eyes, I see nose, I see cheek, I see ear, I
see black hair and it's and where the twigs coming down vertically is right behind
that is the ear. I see a profile of a face. Clear.
The problem is it never moved and I'm shooting video. That's a still frame
off of video. By the way, that's eighty yards. Okay, okay,
where's the last time you saw a sharp picture at eighty yards? Okay?
That's my point, So I don't know what it is. I did
it follow up video I took. I did Part two Return to the Nest,
the part three Return to the Nest. I did a breakdown. I
zoom in on it and I show it and I slow mow it and I
say, no movement, no evidence, move on, you know, kind
of like thing, because you gotta have movement. I'm all about movement.
And that's another thing. If anybody's out big footing and they're shooting still photography,
you're wasting all over time. Go out, have a great time,
but don't put it on YouTube, don't put it on Facebook. You know
their image in bigfoot world. At this point, no agree doesn't do us
any good. It's gotta be movement. Fifteen thirty seconds is what and that's
what I'm after. That's me the gun slinger. I want movement. I
want to end the mystery. I love mysteries big you know Scooby Doo fan,
Hardy Boys, you know Tom Sawyer in the Black Case, the whole
Bit, Mystery by Moonlight. Loved all that stuff. I want to put
the mystery to bed, and that's what I'm trying to do. So that's
some of the stuff. And the biggest change for me was in chapter five
of the new series I'm doing, where I basically said, okay, enough
with a bigfoot on the brain, let me do a real film and let
me start over and kind of launch the Corridor series one through wherever I'm at
video twelve now it should be out in the next day or two, and
let me take a fresh look at this. And chapter five, I go
out with Joey and we're off the Florida Trail and we go off trail and
find the river. I knew the river was to the left. We're on
the Florida Trail. I'm probably about two hundred yards off the Florida Trail toward
the river. And we got there by finding you know those little feet when
the when the swamp goes up and the drains out, and you got these
little creeks that flow back to the river. We're walking down one of those
all the way. I knew it had to run into the river. And
we get down there and I find the seventeen inch by eight inch print that
I do a three D scan on. And I was in the process six
months ago or whatever vetting it did, vet it before I found the print.
We had a howl, three howls. I vetted that to the Olympic
Project guys, and after that, I just kinda you know, I'm thinking
that vetting. Okay, let's talk about vetting. You know, what is
it? Who do you vet to? What does it really prove? If
they say, yes, it was a big foot in this picture, or
yes the House of the big Foot, or yeah, your footprint looked,
you know, looks interesting. But I tell you it got real for me.
It got real for me in chapter five when I found the seventeen inch
footprint. Because you can hear me, I'm like going, what else could
it be? And I'm measuring it, and I go, Joey, this
is seventeen inches. And then I run the tape of right behind the big
toe across the wide part of the foot, and I go, that's eight
inches. That's seventeen by eight inches. What else could it be? And
if you ever followed one of those little runoffs down, it's all debris.
And yeah, I'm looking for other impressions. No, did I see impressions?
Yeah, we're I couldn't tell if it was a foot, but this
one, to me is a foot. I mean, I see toes in
it. I did a three D scan. I flip it up. You
can you can hold it in your hand, you can move it on your
phone. You can zoom in, you can zoom out. It's cool.
It's crap stuff. And this is stuff I learned. This is stuff I
learned from Mike. You know, Mike will throw something out and I just
kind of throw it into place sometimes before he before he does, and they're
going, no, that mad, He's a genius. It's like, no,
I'm listening. You know, I'm around good people. You know,
I got good people that know how to investigate that will show you a trick
or two. And you know, from the Merlin Bird app to the three
D scanners, I made a little you know, note here, I'm doing
negative viewing now of my evidence. I'm flipping the color video into negative.
And I tell you, guys, it's a game changer if you think something's
moving, because when you're in Florida, you can't. I heard y'all talk
on episode one of the Swamp series. You know, you're you're you're talking
about fifty yards. No, you can't see thirty feet sometimes most to the
time where we're at you can't see thirty feet. But when you flip my
footage into negative view and you have the trees and you have the palms and
it looks like this, and then they're all green, and then behind the
green is browns and other colors. There's something moved in there. In any
color range, you're not gonna see it, especially if it's creeping slow.
But in negative view, if it moves like this and breaks that highlight behind
them, Like if you know, I'm in negative view, So if a
sasquatch is black, it's gonna be white. And so the foliage is here
green, the sasquatch is gonna be I mean white. The sasquatch here is
gonna be white. But I'll tell you what. The trees and stuff in
the background are black, and all of a sudden, if you move like
that and break that line, it's like having not one shooting alley, it's
like having sixty shooting alleys. And it's awesome because if something moves left to
right on film, you're gonna get it. You're gonna know what's moving.
Now. You may not have the detail, but you'll know, hey,
I'm in the right place. There is something big out here it is bipedal,
and it moved left to right at this location where I can pinpoint it.
So that's where I'm at now. Is using stuff like that. I
found a TP. I can't explain the TP that's in an episode I think
six or seven. You know, it's called the TP. It's twenty five
ft tall to the apex thirty feet on the ground from the four trees that
are involved. Three of the trees are live, one's dead, and then
as it meets about twenty five feet, it goes another thirty feet past that.
So I don't know what that is. When Max and I found it,
we started saying, what is this? And we were so tired.
At the end of the day, we went fifteen thousand steps that day.
We did get a little turned around. Another day we almost died in the
heat and we were too exhausted to explore it. So I took a group
back. I took six people back with me, and it's called return to
the TP, and I did that to vet it. Guys, what do
you think? They're in different groups. They're in different Bigfoot groups. I
do have people. It's nice to have people in Florida that you can trust.
You know that don't have bigfoot on the brain that can look and view
evidence. Logically. We all looked at it, and they all agreed it's
an anomaly. We don't know what it why it would be out here,
and there's nothing in fifty sixty seventy yards around it that's crossing him down like
that, and so I can't explain that it's an anomaly. But I started
looking at it and I went, what, guys, twenty years ago,
three trees are living out the fours twenty years ago, the old pushing a
tree if this was in water and saft, could something strong push a tree
and lock them? They're not dead. They're going to continue to grow.
And is what we're seeing in the twenty thirty feet past. It still the
apex, still still the you know, And that's what it looks like.
And that thing is bizarre, is you know, it's crazy. You know,
Well you can see it on my channel. It's called the tepee.
I can't explain stuff like that. So that's where I'm at. And what
I'm gonna do is continue to do the Corridor series. I don't go out
alone anymore. After the tree falling incident and the thing in the nest because
I realized I'd probably not alone out there. It may not be big Foot,
but something was. And oh and as I was backing out, there
were knocks on that video too, the same exact knox I had weeks prior
on the same trail, and my knox that I heard are nothing like I
hear any of the big Foot channels making. So if you guys could listen
to that and give me your thoughts, man, I would, Hey,
you know, let me put this one in the bed and move on.
But that one was the same with all these others, you know where I
you know, I'm starting to see stuff, so it's confusing. I'm going
to finish my Quarridor series and say, hey, am my three years posting
my head into bigfoot world. This is what I learned. This is what
I found out. I found some interesting stuff. This is it that I
can't explain. Go here if you want to read, you know, look
at this evidence and figure it out yourself. I'll leave my channel up and
then I'm gonna be private. I'm just gonna go around and if I get
to know you guys, it's gonna be I'm sharing with you guys, I'm
sharing with the same guys I took them to the TP and and try to
move it forward. Um, I want proof to myself that sasquatch or Bigfoot
or skunk ape exists, because my family thinks I'm absolutely certified at that point.
The place I work, I would you all don't know what harassment and
hazing is until you you say, Hey, a big, good guy,
and I work at a TV station, so I get it from all directions.
But I'm getting it because there's so many people out there just blowing smoke,
but he's but that it makes I don't like being made looking like a
fool when I'm trying to be somewhat serious. And that's why I kind of
get passionate about people just exactly, you know, posting stuff like you know,
bigfoot hand found or I would buy a big foot or a big Foot
trip to me and all this stuff and we just don't know. And the
whole DNA evidence that Mike had on his channel with a fur cut to me,
that's a put up or shut up moment. I'm glad North Carolina State's
doing that survey. It's like, man, how many people have you said,
oh, I got hair? Samples. I got this to that I'm
reaching out to everybody I know, not that I think they're crazy or they're
trying to b as me, but they may have something. Turn it in.
Let's figure this stuff out. Yeah, that's a good appeal. It
really is. If folks don't have something, there's a place taking it.
Like you said, there's no excuse anymore to not turn it in. How
many people said, oh, I can't afford five thousand dollars like everybody.
Everybody does, And I think that's the frustrating part. And like you know,
I guess watching your videos the last couple of days, which I've been
doing to prepare for this, I'm I really do enjoy the Corridor series so
far. I like what you do, Matt. I really do the same
with Mike. You know, Mike has just shown me a few things that
have really made a difference in my own research. And of course, Matt
Arner, you know some really good folks in the field now that are doing
some great things. But like you said, that I really appreciate is it's
time to put up or shut up, and it's time to get serious.
And I appreciate the fact you gave yourself a timeframe to do that as well.
I think goals are important. I think sometimes when you've been in this
field as long as some of us have, UM, it's easy to just
kind of go with the status quo and just accept things as they are.
But you know, like I said at the top of the show, you
know it is we are on borrowed time and we really need to get serious
and engaged with I think Henry's having interference with WiFi, That's what I think,
and he doesn't realize he's not on mute. UM, So van's anybody's
final thoughts because we're already passed the top of it where he passed. I'm
final, Mike a lot. That's all right, I love it more we
talk less, uh, final thoughts. Thank you, Matt. That was
pretty damn informativeative. Yeah, at least I know what to look at as
far as videography is concerned, and I I just need some time to absorb
that. But no, very informative, So thank you very much. And
and I think Sean, you wanted to maybe make a quick interjection about the
next show up and coming and who's going to appear on that show. Yeah,
I can't spell and I posted without a spell check. So that's supposed
to be abundance, but it's abundance. It's abundance. I had a Baker
momentum. Anyhow, Yeah, at the end of the month soundance. Yeah,
at the end of the you know, last show, I was going
back and looking through the YouTube comments, and you know, somebody posted something
about the snow Grove Lake, And you know, we have a great opportunity
because this person goes out and does a bunch of podcasts. Why we've never
had this guy on the show before, and honestly, it just never had
him because I never felt the need too. But now that somebody puts a
challenge just to get somebody on the show, I take it because, like
Matt, I put up or shut up. So what we did is Vance
reached out to Doug Hijack and for the first time on the Sasquatch Experience,
Doug is going to join us and talk about the show. Why is that
significant because Sasquatch Experience was around before Monster Quest, it was around before all
of them, and now it's time for us to go back to some old
school squatching, talk about some old subjects and talk about something new. Such
as sasquatch legend meets science too. It's been a long journey. I love
meeting new people. Matt. It's been a pleasure to have you on the
show. My god. You filled us with some information and some inspiration too,
and I think that's important. We all need to learn from each other,
we need to grow, and we do need to challenge each other a
little bit respectfully, which is what you've done. I appreciate it, kudos,
and I do learn from all you guys and everybody else, I really
do. I just filet real quick and move on. You know what I
mean, you have to I mean speed dating for research. It's okay,
that's exactly you know. That's a perfect description of it. Yeah, that's
great, Matt Uh. Mister Arner jb Any final thoughts. I was gonna
say, Matt Uh, it was an incredible discussion with you tonight. Um.
You know, being someone that that has a little bit of photo photography
experience, getting the chance to listen to you, uh discuss uh you know
what we could do in the field was just a great experience. So I
thank you very very much. I do like your points about the cameras and
some of the trail cams, and I had a question, but we kind
of got blocked out for a minute, was is I think the big thing
isn't as much that the trail cams give off all these things. I think
the fact that we don't see as much what the trail cams are as people
think if they put it up on Monday, by Monday night, they're gonna
have sasquatch pictures and every videos. I've watched all these other things, and
you can ask Sean. When we first put the cameras up and on my
land, honestly, we got a little bit of interest because we were around
that area and the local animals wanted to know what are they doing near my
tree? But once a couple of weeks went by, we saw patterns.
You know, they're laying out there in the ground. You see them over
there doing whatever what they naturally do because they forget that camera exists. Now,
the first couple of days, like I said, they were kind of
more interested. Not that I put an object there, but why is he
over there? And a perfect example was yesterday I was down at the land
and the dayers just sitting there eating its little oats or whatever grass is eating.
While I'm over there using the hammer and fixing my shed. Hey could
give a crap. I'm there right like to me, I'm non threatening to
him. And I think what people seem to think is is if they go
into a new area that they're gonna walk in, make some tree knocks,
put up a camera. By the end of the day, they're going to
have all this events. No, if a local animal notices you're intruding,
it backs off twenty feet and waits to see what you do. Like and
then you know, eventually, like the deer in that area don't seem as
a threat. Now, they're not gonna let me touch him. I'm not
cohabitating, They're not like borrowing food for me and bringing me presents. We're
not going that far with him yet, Okay. But the fact is,
though, is those deer could care I exist when I'm just doing normal things,
you know. And I think that's what a lot of the researchers need
to realize this to you. Put a game came up, I don't care
how significant it is. What kind of would say with drones, if that
drones out in the air, it's something that it's a bird. They don't
see all the time, all the animals are gonna duck and cover because they're
like, I don't know what that thing is, but it's making weird noise
and I'm gonna run, you know. Yeah. But if that thing's out
there every day, they'll be oh, okay, it's like living near the
airport. Okay, the plane went by. Sure, you know, folks,
you've been listening to the Sasquatch Experience. Sean Forker, Vince Nesbitt,
James Baker, Matt Arner, Matt Lawson, Matt Where can folks find out
more about you? Central Florida Batbook. I'm on Facebook, YouTube, and
Instagram. Instagram's more my up to date, you know, e bikes out,
I'm out today sort of thing. And then Facebook is where our kind
of archive everything for the future generations to explore. Fantastic folks. Asquatch Experience
dot com find us you can link all tour social medias from all that.
Van's James, Matt, myself, Henry give us. Doesn't get any better
than that and see you next time. Folks, have a good night.
I've been listening to Sasquatch Experience. Please rate and review wherever this podcast is
consumed to share your experience, Visit us on Facebook, or email us Squatch
Experience at gmail dot com. Keep on squatching,