WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:30.920 Portions of the Bill Cunningham Show may be pre recorded. Willie brought you by 2 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:35.320 Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway In Hotels are serving up double points for 3 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:40.399 every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's 4 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:45.719 been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious 5 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:52.759 Marconi Awards for his broadcast exodence, the one and only Bill Cunningham, Sorry, 6 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.759 Billy Cunningham, the great American. This glorious January the seventh throughout the 7 00:00:56.880 --> 00:01:02.039 nation you may remember, may recall this is my mother's birthday, January the 8 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:06.319 seventh, and she's not with us anymore. But every January the seventh I 9 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:11.040 always acknowledge the important role she had in my life. And if she's not 10 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.920 in heaven, there's not one and I believe there is. So Mary Ellen 11 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.159 Cunningham, thank you for all that you've done to me on this January the 12 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:22.319 seventh, and I commemorate your birthday more or less, even though you're not 13 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.719 on this earth anymore, you're in the arms of God Almighty. Well let's 14 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:27.879 continue. As you know, this is the first Sunday of the year that 15 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:32.879 you and I have been together in a sense, although New Year's Eve bled 16 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:37.560 over in a sense to twenty twenty four. But watching all these Sunday morning 17 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:41.000 talk shows and things of that character, my god, are we in for 18 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:46.439 one rough ride? Reminds me almost of nineteen sixty eight with all the assassinations 19 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.120 and the riots and the Vietnam War. None of that's going on now. 20 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:55.159 We've had no assassinations, were we're in skirmishes all over the place, and 21 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:59.359 there aren't a thousand Americans being killed every week in Vietnam, so that's a 22 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:01.920 positive. Nonetheless, we're more at risk now, I think, as a 23 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:06.640 great American than we've been at any time in the last I don't know, 24 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.479 fifty five years. It's unbelievable how divided we are. According to one poll 25 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:15.560 that Danny Gleese and my producer brought to my attention, there's about seven percent 26 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:23.199 of the American people believe that we have good political leadership. Think seven percent 27 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:29.319 think we have good political leadership. Democrats, Republicans, Independence, and so 28 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.479 many Americans, maybe you're one of them, have turned off to politics greatly 29 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:38.400 because it is so childish, as sophomoric, it doesn't relate with the American 30 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:44.199 people want in need is disconnect. About seventy percent of Democrats say they don't 31 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.319 want Joe Biden to be their nominee. Seventy percent of Democrats, and that's 32 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:51.800 getting worse. Muslim support has collapsed, black mails are going to vote for 33 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:55.080 Donald Trump in largely increasing numbers. The espanding vote is going to bleed toward 34 00:02:55.159 --> 00:03:00.319 Donald Trump. In fact, I can't imagine a circumstance confusing. I'd like 35 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:04.439 to know, how does that seven percent? Why does seven percent think we 36 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:08.000 have good political leadership? But anyway that there is unrest in the land, 37 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:12.199 and a lot of polling's been done, and I've shared it with you the 38 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:16.319 last Sunday night, which is about thirty five percent of us think Joe Biden 39 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:20.719 has done a good job as president. I'm amazed at that thirty five percent. 40 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:24.360 Who in the hell are they that thirty five percent? It's it's incredible. 41 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:30.080 And here we sit about fifty percent of Republicans don't want Donald Trump. 42 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.400 Not because his policies didn't work, of course they did. It's all the 43 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:38.319 other peccadillos, all the lawsuits, things in that character, what the Democratic 44 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:43.680 Party has done to him, all claiming to be the party of democracy when 45 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:47.719 they're trying to eliminate the opposition so only Democrats can run for political office. 46 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:53.039 It is really truly unbelievable. So tonight we have great guests coming up later 47 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:55.919 and I want to thank my friend and yours, Sean Hannity, for taking 48 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:00.159 some time out tonight to join you and I. And about an hour later 49 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:06.120 on we also have Steve Gorham's giving us an update on what the Biden administration 50 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:10.919 and also in California, what they want to do with natural gas appliance is 51 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.479 they want to get rid of leaf blowers, get rid of gas grills, 52 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:18.199 not have new buildings that have natural gas, which is the best heat imaginable. 53 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.600 One of the main reasons we have such a clean environment today is the 54 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:26.560 continued use of natural gas instead of coal. Later on, also we have 55 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:30.439 Eric Ruark of Numbers USA dot com about the collapse on the Southern border. 56 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:35.920 There was some reporting this morning on Fox This Sunday that talked about the Biden 57 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:41.000 administration, which is not Joe Biden. He's either on vacation or getting B 58 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:45.240 twelve shots. The guy has no clue what's happening. But the Praetorian guard 59 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.079 around Joe Biden is willing to accept the deal, that is, to get 60 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:53.079 the money necessary for the Ukraine. In Israel, they may have a stay 61 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:57.680 in Mexico policy, which of course is permitted under the law that Trump used 62 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.319 a great effect. Biden refuses to do so. So there was some reporting 63 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:08.000 today that the praetorian guard around Joe Biden will agree to some teeth in Americans 64 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:12.839 immigration laws. That's Eric Ruark of numbers USA dot com. Bill addressed himself 65 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.439 to that. Then, lastly, Kent Heck and Lively will be here. 66 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:21.079 He's one of the co authors of Diversity con Secrets and Lies behind DEI, 67 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:27.680 and so he wrote an excellent book on the topic about where did DEI come 68 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:31.399 from? It didn't exist ten years ago, twelve years ago. And he 69 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:39.759 makes the rather a salient point that because American society has so few institutional race 70 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:46.600 or sex problems anymore institutional, do individuals acting correctly absolutely toward women, toward 71 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:50.279 gays, toward African Americans, toward the lesbians, whatever. Yes, there's 72 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:55.199 individual accimus conduct, but every state, every city, every county, the 73 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:59.800 entire country of laws prohibiting it. And so about ten to fifteen years ago, 74 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:03.480 especially after gay marriage was legalized in all fifty states by a five to 75 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:09.560 four vote in US Supreme Court author by Justice Kennedy. Of course, the 76 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:15.279 civil rights movement could not simply say, you know what we've won. America 77 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.839 right now is filled with good and component individuals of every race, every sexual 78 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:25.319 orientation, every description. So it's time to disband and to go home and 79 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:29.879 work on family life, which is the major problem in poor communities. Poor 80 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.720 communities difficulties or lack of father in the home. So Kent Heck and Lively 81 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:39.480 makes the point that those in charge of all these moneies, all the corporate 82 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:44.120 programs, all of Hollywood, late night TV, all the colleges and universities 83 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:48.720 that gave us the defract Clydine Gay must have a rallying cry to keep people 84 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:53.439 sending money in to make them believe things are worse than they truly are. 85 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:59.040 And also we have to have the ability of people like Al Sharpton laughing under 86 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:01.720 his breath about all the racism he's trying to find. They have to get 87 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:08.079 paid because this is a multi multi billion dollar industry, I said, billion 88 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:12.920 dollar industry. The DEI, the affirmative action crowd ruled unconstitutional. Of course, 89 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:15.639 racism was always wrong, it is wrong and will always be wrong. 90 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:20.879 But they couldn't simply go out of business and say okay. After twenty oh 91 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:28.360 eight and that night in Grant Park when Barack Hussein Obama and Michelle walked out 92 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:32.160 on the stage with those with their two daughters, and Jesse Jackson was crying 93 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.279 those tears, thinking, oh my god, the gig is up. I 94 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:42.680 can't continue the hoax of massive racism because to make so many of us rich 95 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:46.439 that I've got to stop this thing. And maybe it's over because we have 96 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:53.600 a popularly elected black president. And Ken Hecklan Lively makes the point that, 97 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:58.720 especially about twelve years ago when the US Supreme Court said gear marriage is fine, 98 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:03.399 all these mechanisms, the machinery of DEI and affirmative action and the human 99 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.800 rights campaign, they had to stay in business. They could not say, 100 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:13.800 okay, let's go into communities, work hard, work smart, praise the 101 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:18.319 Lord by whatever name you call him, and we have to have family structure 102 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:20.399 in place. They could have done that, but that did not happen. 103 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:28.319 They came up with Diversity, Equity and Inclusion DEI, which all of us 104 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:35.559 know is illegal and unconstitutional. The courts have regularly ruled that racial affirmative action 105 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.919 cases must be narrowly tailored and they must go out of existence and justice. 106 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:45.120 Roberts made the classic comment about seven years ago in one opinion that the way 107 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:50.440 to stop race discrimination is to stop discriminating based upon race. Does that make 108 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.639 sense? Stop it? And so you can't say it is some Asian kid 109 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:01.000 or some Hispanic girl that you don't qualify to go to University of Chicago or 110 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.279 Harvard is if anybody today would really want to go there because of the color 111 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:11.039 of your skin. See, the goal is a meritocracy. That is, 112 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:16.240 a person has the opportunity to work hard, ork smart, go to school, 113 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.159 not get married until you're capable of doing so. In fact, get 114 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:26.559 married, then have children and have a family structure, which is the greatest 115 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:33.679 social welfare program in the history of America. Is an intact family that praises 116 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:39.480 God. If you have that, statistics have shown African Americans from intact families 117 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.639 have about the same poverty rate, which is about four percent as any other 118 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:48.200 family. If the mom and the dad work and stay together and help kids 119 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:52.960 with homework, have kids brought into the world they can afford and love that 120 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.879 fathers can sit on sons and mothers can tell daughters what they have to do. 121 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.279 America would be much better off. But see, that doesn't fit Marxism, 122 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:07.639 it doesn't fit progressivism, it doesn't fit exactly the leftist, progressive Marxist 123 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:13.600 view of what America should look like. And because of the tech revolution, 124 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:18.159 because of the billions and billions of dollars from the Tides Foundation, from the 125 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:24.080 Ford Foundation, from Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, from Berkshire Hathaway, billions 126 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:28.759 of dollars have got to be given away. And guess what They're really not 127 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:33.159 given away to right to life groups. They're not given away to Catholic charities 128 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.639 or to groups that assist the Jewish Federation. They're not given away to those 129 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:43.480 groups. They're given away to DEI causes and so in today's world, and 130 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.919 this will be pointed out by Kent Heck and Lively, the author of Diversity 131 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:56.720 KHN that the three most prominent black women in America today at this point are 132 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:03.480 people like Justice Kintanji Jack, the Justice who doesn't know what a woman is, 133 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:09.480 or Vice President Kamala Harris, who was selected because of her genderine race, 134 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:13.600 that is the borders are who I don't think has ever been to the 135 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.159 border, has no clue what's going on. And the third best known as 136 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:22.759 Claudine Gay, who never wrote a book, plagiarized about fourteen articles. Suddenly 137 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:30.879 she was DEI compliant and became the president of Harvard University. And so a 138 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.600 lot of the Jesse Jackson, the Al Sharpton types. The Black Lives Matter 139 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:41.639 crowd believes that any criticism of a black woman is based upon race or sex. 140 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:45.919 Now that is not the case when it comes to Justice Clarence Thomas. 141 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:52.399 Clarence Thomas, his story is truly unbelievable. I've had on a judge in 142 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.840 the sixth Circuit that wrote a book about him. He's been my guest twice 143 00:11:54.879 --> 00:12:00.360 over the years when he wrote a book, What a fabulous story. The 144 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:07.360 criticisms of Kamala Harris are always racial. Well, the criticisms of Justice Clarence 145 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:13.879 Thomas are somehow justified because of politics. So race is the vehicle that gets 146 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:18.279 you to where you got, get to the Promised land. But if a 147 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.720 black conservative like a Clarence Thomas or a Thomas soul makes a whole bunch of 148 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:28.519 sense, you better find something to tear him down, ignore his race. 149 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:33.759 So when the DEI and the civil rights crowd gives permission to go after a 150 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.840 condoleez Or Rice, or gives permission to go after a Clarence Thomas, race 151 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:43.600 has race is not even a speed bump. They ignore race when it fits 152 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:50.799 a particular political purpose. We've had many great black females who were selected because 153 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:56.679 of a meritocracy, not because of sexism or racism. You and I both 154 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:03.080 know that discrimination is wrong. Invidious discrimination is wrong, and it should not 155 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:07.879 be practiced. I think a Congressman Barbara Jordan, who fifty years ago was 156 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:13.399 a proud Texas congresswoman who got there because of merit. I think as Secretary 157 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:18.919 of State Condoleeza Rice and a lot of criticism of her and the civil rights 158 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.399 crowd never got on her side to defend her. And then locally in my 159 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:28.559 world in little Cincinnati, Ohio, there's a black female judge named Melba Marsh 160 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:33.519 who constantly gets elected by wide margins. All of them are highly qualified black 161 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:39.320 females who succeeded because of merit. But when you're a Joe Biden and you 162 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.720 want to select someone for political purposes, and you pick Kantanji Jackson and she 163 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.879 cannot answer a question of what is a woman? Or you pick Kamala Harris, 164 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.840 you exclude everyone in the world, everyone in America that could be a 165 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.360 vice president, Exclude them all. But with Kamala Harris, he said, 166 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.120 going in, I'm going to pick a black female to be the vice president 167 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:05.840 because she's capable of taking over my office on a moment's notice. Should believe 168 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:11.960 that Vice President Kamala Harris is capable of serving as the president of the United 169 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:16.759 States of America. But when you criticize her for her performance, it becomes 170 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:22.000 racial. When you criticize doctor Claudine Gay, who's a liar and a plagiarizer, 171 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.000 that becomes racial. But when you go after Clarence Thomas, none of 172 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:31.120 that's ever racial. How absurd, how ridiculous. And so we look at 173 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.519 a situation now this year, we're all hell's about to break loose, and 174 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.600 it's because we live in a world in which the media picks winners and losers 175 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.639 that the court system is going to have to solve some intractable difficulties because of 176 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:50.879 all the efforts by solely Democrats to act in an anti democratic way. I'd 177 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:58.440 say this, when the Democratic Party accuses the Republicans of engaging in some nefarious 178 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:05.519 behavior, they are themselves doing exactly the same thing. They're blaming Republicans for 179 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:11.879 engaging in their behavior. All you heard Joe Biden talk about on Friday from 180 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:18.519 Valley Forge was about democracy is on the ballot. So that means that democracy 181 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:24.080 as defined by Joe Biden requires you to vote for liberal Democrats who've given us 182 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:28.000 the southern border, given us the failures in Ukraine and Israel by the Biden 183 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:33.799 administration, giving us the failures in major cities and public education, calling it 184 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:41.600 democracy. Whenever Joe Biden talks about the Republicans are engaging in terrible behavior, 185 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:46.600 it's because they, the Democrats, have done it already. Let's take a 186 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.200 short break. If a line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven 187 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:56.960 three three seven. When you criticize a black female for her behavior, that's 188 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:02.000 racial. When you go after Clarence Thomas because of his alleged behavior, that 189 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:07.360 is never racist? Why is that? It's an unbelievable tale. And trying 190 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.240 to watch some of the morning talk shows today, they stayed away a lot 191 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:15.600 from Clyding Gay because she's a liar and a plagiarer who got a golden parachute 192 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:19.440 of one million dollars a year because she is DEEI certified. I like to 193 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:25.679 think they could have found a black female completely qualified other than someone who's a 194 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:30.120 liar and a plagiarizer to be the president of Harvard University. And of course 195 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.360 right now the leftists are all complaining, essentially, you know what we have 196 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.799 to do. We have to pick another black female. Sad you should not 197 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.120 be judged by the color of your skin, but by the content of your 198 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:48.000 character, and Clyding Gay had absolutely none. Let's continue if a line becomes 199 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.159 available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven Bill Cunningham, The 200 00:16:52.159 --> 00:17:02.559 Grant American with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham. Let's continue. And 201 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:10.200 so I have to develop the idea with you tonight that chaos is what Liza 202 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:15.400 ahead. I am going to quiz Sean Hannity on this in about thirty five 203 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:21.079 minutes. I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell that Joe Biden is 204 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:25.319 going to be the nominee of the Democrat Party to stand for a re election 205 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:30.200 on November the fifth, he's two. Did you see the video of him 206 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:34.440 after the Valley Ford's speech lost again on stage and doctor Joe Biden had to 207 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.920 take him by the elbow and lead him off stage. Then there's video of 208 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:45.400 him trying to get into the Beast and a secret Service agent or someone else 209 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.079 had to take him by the elbow to direct him to where he had to 210 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:53.559 go. And as a family that has been riddled with Alzheimer's, I understand 211 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:57.400 it is difficult to deal with that. Every family knows someone or will be 212 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:02.559 effective by someone with all Alzheimer's. It's terrible. That doesn't mean you should 213 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:07.720 be the president of the United States. And basically Kamala Harris's insurance policy is 214 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.200 like Geico to make sure that they don't replace Joe Biden. But he's not 215 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:15.079 going to make it the next nine or ten or eleven months. He won't 216 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.000 be able to campaign. He didn't campaign in twenty sixteen when he was in 217 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.759 better shape, I'm sorry twenty twenty, when he was in better shape mentally. 218 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:26.240 He couldn't campaign then, and the media gave him a Texas l passo 219 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.480 because they wanted to get rid of Donald Trump. So badly. Chaos is 220 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:36.400 what's going to happen this entire year. Whether Trump is elected or Biden is 221 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:41.359 elected, there will be total, complete chaos. And as we continue, 222 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:44.720 I'm going to play out both scenarios for you and lay out what I think 223 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.920 is going to happen between now and November the fifth. The convention, as 224 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.880 you may know, for the Democrats is back to Chicago all in nineteen sixty 225 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:56.200 eight, a complete disaster. And who's going to be there Barack Obama this 226 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:03.119 is his third term in office, and Michelle and many other Democratic alcoholtes, 227 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.200 including David Axelrod who lives in Chicago, who thinks Joe Biden how to retirement? 228 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.200 Let's continue with more Jill Cunningham, the Great American with you and all 229 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:26.119 of the great Americans every summer by Billy Cunningham, The Great American. Coming 230 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:29.799 up in about thirty minutes is the Great Sean Hannity. We talk about all 231 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:36.920 issues relative to his vacation leaving New York City and going to Florida for his 232 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:38.720 TV and for his radio show. Is you know Shawn and I go back 233 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.039 decades, have been friends for a very long time. I want to quiz 234 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:45.680 him as to why he's doing it, what were the reasons, and also 235 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.039 his predictions, what's going to happen in the future and more. The key 236 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:53.440 point it appears that Joe Biden wants to convince you of another lie, that 237 00:19:53.480 --> 00:20:00.240 democracy is on the ballot, that the Democrats are defending democracy, and that 238 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:07.240 the Republicans couldn't care less about democracy. They care about dictatorship, they care 239 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:14.039 about presidential power, and they don't care whatsoever about democracy in the democratic context. 240 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:18.200 Do you believe that, I don't think so. In fact, the 241 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.279 speech on Friday and Valley Forge, he started out that is Joe Biden reading 242 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:30.680 a teleprompter poorly by denouncing how the Donald Trump campaign is only about Donald Trump, 243 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:36.440 and Donald Trump is obsessed with a past while he's concerned about the future. 244 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.400 And then most of the speech at Valley Forge spend virtually the entire speech 245 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:48.480 obsessing about Donald Trump. That's Biden talking about Donald Trump. It's Donald Trump 246 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:53.799 and also about January sixth, twenty twenty one and Charlottesville. And so the 247 00:20:53.880 --> 00:21:00.880 president who says the campaigns about the future is talking about the past. Biden 248 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:04.319 who said that Trump only cares about Trump and he's obsessed with the past, 249 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:10.480 spent virtually all the speech obsessing about Trump in the past. It was really 250 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:15.559 unbelievable, And so Biden spoke about how Democrats are fighting for your right to 251 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:22.519 vote and as a consequence, they want to have free and unfettered access to 252 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.160 the ballot. We'll just step back. We had a couple of debates in 253 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:32.279 Iowa. The Iowa caucuses are eight days away, and so far on the 254 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:37.799 Republican side, the Republican Party has made sure that there's a full throat at 255 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:44.240 debate going on inside the Republican Party in which there are debates, there's regular 256 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:49.720 appearances of many that you have. Of course, Governor DeSantis is running and 257 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:56.759 he's on the campaign trail giving out his viewpoints. You have other Republicans such 258 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.759 as Nikki Hayley who's on the campaign trail, having debates, having six and 259 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.880 seven events per day. These are Republicans who don't care about democracy meeting with 260 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:11.559 voters. And then you have Vivek Ramaswami from my hometown of Cincinnati, is 261 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:17.839 still debating and campaigning along with Chris Christie. So it began with about twelve 262 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:21.599 candidates, the Republicans who don't care about democracy, don't care about talking to 263 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:26.359 voters, having a robust debate, including Donald Trump, that dominates the media 264 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.680 every time he says or does something. You have all these Republicans meeting with 265 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:36.160 voters and doing everything in their power. On the Democratic side, guess what 266 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:42.519 you have. Dozens of Democratic officials have sought to remove from the ballot one 267 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:48.759 hundred and twenty six Republicans from Congress on the basis that they were supporting an 268 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:55.200 insurrection. And the Pennsylvania you have a lawsuit filed by Democratic activists to take 269 00:22:55.200 --> 00:23:00.519 away the ability of Congressman Scott Perry in Pennsylvania to actually be on the ballot. 270 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:07.960 So the Republicans are having debate, the Democrats are filing lawsuits to keep 271 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:12.519 Republicans off the ballot, on and on and on. In fact, in 272 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:18.880 Florida, there was an effort in Florida to have a primary, but Florida 273 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:26.519 has called its Democratic primary already for Joe Biden and blocked opposing candidates from running 274 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:30.160 in the state of Florida. On the Democratic side, on the primary, 275 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:37.440 and two thirds of Democrats won an alternative to Joe Biden, but the Democratic 276 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:42.759 Party says no, there'll be no voting so one party is conducting a campaign 277 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:48.880 season, the other party is suing, and like in North Carolina, having 278 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:56.440 the Democratic committees in North Carolina and New Hampshire and Florida say there'll be no 279 00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:00.680 voting. And so who complains about the right to vote? It's the Democrats 280 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:07.559 who institute no right to vote for president. You have, believe it or 281 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.559 not, Congressman Dean Phillips of Minnesota wants to be in a primary battle with 282 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:17.559 Joe Biden. You have Marianne Williamson, you have RFK Jr. So the 283 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:22.640 Democrats who complain about a lack of voting is making sure that fewer people vote. 284 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:29.079 And the Republicans, blamed by the Democrats don't care about democracy, are 285 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:33.680 actually conducting a campaign. And I think more and more people are figuring it 286 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:40.279 out. North Carolina Democrats became the latest to bar anyone except Joe Biden from 287 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:45.160 getting on their presidential ballot. They don't want votes, they don't want voters, 288 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.680 they want none of it. So even more galling is the fact that 289 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:55.440 what the Democratic Party has done to the greatest president of my lifetime, that 290 00:24:55.599 --> 00:25:02.240 of course would be Donald Trump, because she was successful. There were meetings 291 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.960 held directly and indirectly saying what do we do and how do we do it 292 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:10.400 to take away the right of seventy four million Americans to vote for Donald Trump. 293 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:15.559 I thought the Democratic Party, the whole campaign, according to the feckless 294 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:18.920 one Joe Biden, is going to be about democracy. Democracy is on the 295 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:26.839 ballot, but the Democratic Party itself won't let Democrats vote, while the Republican 296 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:32.400 Party has many candidates in the caucus and the voting starts in about eight days. 297 00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.160 So it began, of course in New York City with Alvin Briggs, 298 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:41.400 who filed criminal charges against Donald Trump about nine or ten months ago to get 299 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:47.000 him off the ballot, to get him convicted because of the payments to Stormy 300 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:53.200 Daniels. Allegedly, Alvin Braggs believes that the money's given to Stormy Daniels to 301 00:25:53.200 --> 00:26:00.319 buy her silence should have been on a different form than Donald Trump put the 302 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.279 amount paid to her down. It should have been on a different form. 303 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:10.720 That began campaign finance irregularities. So Alan Braggs, New York City wants to 304 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.720 make sure that you don't have the right to vote for Donald Trump. Right 305 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:18.640 behind him, here comes Fannie Willis, who's the Fulton County prosecutor, who 306 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:23.920 claims there was a telephone call which you've all heard and which at no point 307 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:30.039 did Donald Trump say, corruptly find the eleven thousand plus votes I need. 308 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:36.160 It was a telephone call, and Fannie Willis has began a lengthy investigation, 309 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:41.680 calling the attorneys, the electors, everyone involved in and around Atlanta to try 310 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:47.000 to prove that Donald Trump somehow is not fit to hold political office. Starting 311 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.680 in twenty twenty four, and let's face it, take away your right to 312 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:57.759 vote incomes Joe Biden. Joe Biden publicly said repeatedly that Mary Garland should file 313 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:03.160 insurrection charge, which is against Donald Trump, taken away your right to vote 314 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.480 for the candidate of your choice. Now, when that began, the message 315 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.559 was classified and given to Jack Smith, who's the hatchet man, and the 316 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.640 Department of Justice that has, shall we say, a less than serious record 317 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:22.559 when it comes to getting convictions for public figures, just asked Governor McDonald in 318 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.359 the state of Virginia. He filed two sets of charges, having conducted lengthy 319 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:33.559 investigations. One involved in Florida, which is the classified document case in which 320 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.599 he called in employees of mar Lago called in the attorneys, made them waive 321 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:42.039 their attorney client privileged, got all this information about what Donald Trump did and 322 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:48.400 when he did it, launched a year long investigation indicting him in Florida for 323 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:53.359 mishandling a classified documents as if every Democratic office order within the sound of my 324 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:57.039 voice that's been in the executive branch of government is not that exactly the same 325 00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:00.839 thing. Then he hooked it up because his boss wanted it, which is 326 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:06.400 Joe Biden and Merrick Garland full count indictment in Washington, d C. Involving 327 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:11.599 obstruction of justice, not insurrection, and relative to his speech which he said, 328 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.960 go back down to the Capitol peacefully to protest. But nonetheless, the 329 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:23.079 Democratic Party under Alvin Braggs, Fonnie Willis, Jack Smith, Mary Garland, 330 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:30.839 and Joe Biden have filed all these ninety one count indictments federal and state that 331 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.799 would lock up Donald Trump for the rest of his natural life. And then, 332 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:41.960 of course Letitia James became a civil procedure in which she's seeking through a 333 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:47.680 compliant state court judge, to fine Donald Trump three hundred and fifty to five 334 00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:53.640 hundred million dollars for making false statements on real estate appraisal forms, which has 335 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.720 never been filed in her office against anybody in the history of New York State. 336 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.720 Addition of that, an addition to that, Colorado Supreme Court ruled about 337 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.559 two weeks ago, in a four to three highly partisan decision, that Trump 338 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.440 needs to get off the ballot. In Colorado, the main Secretary of State, 339 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.480 Sheena Bellows, did exactly the same thing, just ordered him off the 340 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:23.799 ballot. So the party that complains about the behavior of Republicans that's anti democratic 341 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:30.400 is the party working overtime to take away your right to vote. Whether it's 342 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:34.160 North Carolina, whether it's New Hampshire, whether it's Florida. They don't want 343 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.359 Democrats to have an option to vote for someone other than Joe Biden. And 344 00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.759 when it comes to the general election, their goal was to get this thing 345 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:48.519 decided in such a way that Donald Trump either cannot run will be so damaged 346 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:53.079 by a guilty verdict that he will not be re elected president. So the 347 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:59.480 party that cares about voting takes away your right to vote then quickly blames the 348 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:04.680 Republics for engaging in their behavior, and the media just doesn't call him out 349 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.519 on it, but of course I just did. Now, going forward, 350 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:18.000 let's talk about some Donald Trump land mines that lie ahead that could keep the 351 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.480 rest of seven year old Donald Trump is anything but in good health. But 352 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.960 I look at the problems and the pressure that he's under. He's facing three 353 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:32.960 hundred and eighty five years in prison. He's facing the destruction of his business 354 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.279 empire to be decided by liberals and Marxists living in New York City, in 355 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.559 Washington, d C. And Atlanta, Georgia. If and when he comes 356 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:47.359 to trial, is there a snowballs chance in hell that any of those jurors 357 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:53.880 are going to find Donald Trump not guilty. No, his health long term. 358 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.240 The guy is first full year in office. If he's reelected, he'll 359 00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:03.200 be eighty years old, and he's a sharp as a whip right now. 360 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.720 But I'm concerned about his health. In addition to all these hundreds of millions 361 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:15.000 of dollars being spent in legal fees, he also has the circumstances of an 362 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.960 empire, a family of business to run. And I worry number one about 363 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.720 his health and I pray to God he stays healthy. Number two. If 364 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:29.079 he's convicted of almost anything criminally, it's not the stuff for New York City 365 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.240 with the judge that every time he's indicted, his ratings go up. But 366 00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:38.119 if he's actually tried, and that's unlikely, but it's possible because the Democrats 367 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:44.680 are pushing for the trial before election day November fifth of this year. Acting 368 00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:48.480 is if this is completely non political, but they got to get the verdict 369 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.359 before the election. They know that if he's tried before a Washington d c. 370 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:57.640 Jury, the odds of conviction irrespective of facts in law or above ninety 371 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:02.000 five percent, or City of Atlanta jury or New York City jury. And 372 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:07.799 about twenty percent of the American people say they would not vote for the Donald 373 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.880 if he is convicted of a crime. And this is going to be a 374 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.039 razor close election. He's up now seven or eight percentage points. So if 375 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:21.559 he's convicted of something, and for political purposes, the party that cares about 376 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:29.599 democracy is pushing hard to get the verdict done and in by the summer of 377 00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:35.119 this year. Thirdly, if abortion continues to be a big issue. It 378 00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.000 kind of died off a little bit, and if it comes back strong, 379 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:45.640 suburbanites will vote against Donald Trump because of abortion. And lastly, this is 380 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.240 the wild card. It's now July and August. Joe Biden has fallen down 381 00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:54.480 steps. He's babbling incessantly, can't find his way off stage. The power 382 00:32:54.480 --> 00:33:00.440 brokers the Democratic Party gets together and they say, look, Donald Trump has 383 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.680 not been convicted. Donald Trump abortion the issue doesn't appear to have the same 384 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.759 residence as it did two years ago, and his health's pretty good. Michelle 385 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:15.200 Obama needs to be the nominee of the party that shuts out Kamala Harris for 386 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:21.799 the race card, and so in August in Chicago trump Land. Minds, 387 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:28.400 if Trump otherwise makes it through all the bs of all the prosecutors and all 388 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:32.519 the judges and democratically controlled areas, wins before the US Supreme Court gets on 389 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:38.720 the ballot, all that happens here comes Michelle Obama as the nominee of the 390 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:45.079 Democrat Party and just pick some senator to be the vice president in a way 391 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:51.279 you go. Suburbanites will go crazy, and Michelle Obama fearfully. I guess 392 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.119 the Trumpster could beat her, but the media coverage would be similar to what 393 00:33:54.200 --> 00:34:00.200 her husband received. And it's a consequence. Michelle Obama once again will be 394 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.640 restored to power with Barack Hussain Obama, who's been in charge the last three 395 00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.760 years. So we're going to have at least four terms, maybe five terms 396 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:12.599 of Barack Hussein Obama. Remember the guy who said not blue America, not 397 00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.800 read America, the United States of America. He quickly got rid of that 398 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.199 stuff once he got into office and his ratings went down. And so the 399 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.599 Trump land minds his personal health. I pray to god he stays healthy. 400 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:32.159 Secondly convicted of something which will cause a chunk of the electorate to not vote 401 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:37.960 for him, abortion once again being a big issue for some reason, or 402 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:43.079 Michelle Obama's the nominee, in which case Biden's pulling. Right now, the 403 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:47.119 trump Sters up about eight percentage points on Biden, and it's going to get 404 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.920 worse for Biden, not better. The only solution is to have the federal 405 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:58.920 courts intervene, to delay the so called trials until after the election, and 406 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:05.000 to or like hell, to make sure that Donald Trump's health remains solid. 407 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.400 So the party that cares about voting wants to make sure you don't vote, 408 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:15.000 and you can't select the candidate of your choice either way in November. If 409 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:21.360 it's November sixth or seventh, and Donald Trump and or the Democrats been declared 410 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.280 the winner, whoever the Democrat might be, and the interchangeable drill bit of 411 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.119 the Democratic Party, just pick one. We're going to have complete and utter 412 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:37.679 chaos. If it's the Trumpster. The media is going to go batcrap crazy 413 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.360 about going after Trump even harder, and it will be almost impossible for him 414 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.320 to get a whole bunch of individuals to serve in his cabinet because they're going 415 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:51.039 to fear impeachment or lawsuits or whatever. The country will be in complete chaos. 416 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.039 Is all the lawsuits are delayed for the next four years, and the 417 00:35:54.119 --> 00:36:00.920 media doubles down on their hatred of Donald Trump. But the country will have 418 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:05.960 good policies that will help us on the southern border with taxes and spending and 419 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.920 with police. On the other hand, if the Democrat wins in twenty twenty 420 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:15.800 four, we have total chaos again on the southern border and the cities like 421 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:21.639 Oakland emptying out, Portland collapsing, Chicago collapsing. We have total chaos. 422 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.239 With Trump, we have chaos and a better country. With the Democrat, 423 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.840 we have chaos in a worse country. That's why I pray to God and 424 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:37.239 lit a candle today at Saint Williams in Naples, Florida, that somehow Donald 425 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.119 Trump can win the presidency. Put up with the crap he's got to put 426 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:45.079 up with, but most importantly, what has to happen the country will be 427 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:49.559 better off. Let's continue with more. Coming up in a few minutes will 428 00:36:49.559 --> 00:37:04.079 be Sean Hannity, Bill cunning and The Great American with you Every Sunday by 429 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:09.719 Billy Cunningham, The Great American once again. If Trump is elected, utter 430 00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.599 chaos is going to be brutal, but the country is going to be better 431 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.960 off because his policies work. If, on the other hand, Biden, 432 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:27.119 Kamala Harris, Michelle Obama, Givin Newsom is elected president, continuing the same 433 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.239 policies we've been experiencing, we have complete and other utter chaos, and the 434 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:36.840 country is worse all May God bless Donald Trump, Bill Cunningham with you every 435 00:37:36.880 --> 00:38:09.239 Sunday night, Willie rough You by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway In 436 00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:15.000 Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels dot 437 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.519 com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best the recipient of 438 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.400 not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards, for he is broadcast exodence, 439 00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:30.519 the one and only Bill Cunningham, Shy Billy Cunningham, the Great America. 440 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.880 And there have been historical moments. When Caesar crossed the Rubicon, the river 441 00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.719 in northern Italy and brought the Roman army into the city, all hell broke 442 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:44.559 loose, and several days ago the Great Sean Hannity announced to his multitudes of 443 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:49.159 fans and friends that he'd decided to fors sake Long Island, Fort, for 444 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.119 sake, Manhattan, and the head to the sunny beaches of Florida where he's 445 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:57.320 got to. I'm sure a good set up with so many helping him doing 446 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.360 what he must be done. And Sean Hannity, all I can say is, 447 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.480 do you feel like Julius Caesar or do you feel like John Stuart is 448 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.800 out in apology? Because I watched last night, I watched a couple of 449 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.920 nights ago, and you had John Stewart begging you to stay eight years ago. 450 00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:17.280 Can you tell the American people why Sean Hannity left his birthplace? Yeah? 451 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.400 First of all, Bill Cunningham, Happy New Year, God bless you, 452 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.440 God bless America is great to check in with you for the new year, 453 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:28.400 because we need a full report. America is hanging by a thread and 454 00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.719 we're counting on you to pulls across the finish line. The great people of 455 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.639 Ohio, we need them. We trust that they're going to go in the 456 00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:38.639 right direction. My prediction, Bill Cunningham, we may have an election won 457 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:44.719 by as a little as two hundred thousand votes in six separate states. Who 458 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:46.400 knows what's going to happen. Anyone that says they know is full of it. 459 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:51.000 With that said, yes, I pulled the trigger. I've been threatening 460 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.960 to do this for a long time, and you know, for all the 461 00:39:53.960 --> 00:40:01.599 obvious reasons. It's funny because yesterday you HA came out with their migration statistics 462 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:07.400 and they're the same now the last three years, and people are leaving California, 463 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.400 New York, Michigan, Illinois, and New Jersey and they're going to 464 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:16.800 states Texas and Florida again one and two, followed by the Carolinas and Tennessee. 465 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:22.239 And people are voting with their feet and they're saying they've had enough of 466 00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:27.679 high taxes, they've had enough burdens and regulation, They've had had it with 467 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:32.679 their rights being oppressed. They've had it with bad schools, high crime rates, 468 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.719 just defund dismantled, no bail laws. It's insane. It's like New 469 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:42.400 York City. It's become like a free fraud. I don't know the last 470 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:45.119 time you've been there. I've been in New York City with you at a 471 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.639 time when you could pretty much safely walk the streets. It's not the case 472 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.800 anymore. If you can't do it, if you needed a guest, I 473 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:58.639 was sixteen seventeen blocks away from twenty ninth and sixth. I walked straight up. 474 00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:02.039 Maybe at seven thirty quarter late, we would do the show. Maybe 475 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:06.480 Jerry Springer dearly departed. I don't agree with his politics, but he was 476 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.840 a good guy. The Great Debate. He was a great guy. I 477 00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:13.559 remember we had the Big debate. Yeah, see, he's wonderful. You 478 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.760 know. It just doesn't think right. And then to walk down back twenty 479 00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:21.199 blocks on sixth Avenue at ten o'clock at night, no problem. I felt 480 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:25.360 as warm as in my mother's arms. So policies caused it, and policies 481 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.559 can solve it. But I would think to get me out of Deer Park, 482 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:32.679 to get me out of Cincinnati to get me to live in another state. 483 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:37.360 I mean, that's got to be. It was more difficult or more 484 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.960 easy than you thought to finally become a refugee in Florida, you know, 485 00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:47.239 Unlike you, I was, like, you know, a traveling radio journeyman. 486 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.440 And you know, for example, I live. I grew up in 487 00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.840 Long Island, but I was gone for sixteen years, five years in Rhode 488 00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.599 Island, five years in California, two years in in Punchville, Alabama, 489 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.920 four years Atlanta, Georgia. And then in nineteen ninety six, I got 490 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.559 the call from Roger L's They're putting on a brand new channel called the Fox 491 00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:14.199 News Channel. I'm now in my twenty eighth year. Bill Cunningham, if 492 00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:17.679 you would have made that bet twenty eight years ago that I'd be the lone 493 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:22.679 survivor in primetime cable and the longest running primetime cable news host in the history 494 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.199 of cable news, that would have been a horrible bet, sir. Why 495 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.519 why do you say there's many are called, but few have been chosen. 496 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.519 We got to get onto the issues, Cloudinge Gay and Kamala Harrison. But 497 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.880 many are called, many are but few have been chosen. What is it 498 00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:44.119 about you that has made a connection for almost thirty years and almost forty years 499 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:49.400 in radio? What is the connection that you have to regular god fearing Americans 500 00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:53.719 that others maybe don't you know? Actually, you gave me the answer in 501 00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:59.679 your question God fearing Americans. You know, I have said this my entire 502 00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:05.079 career. Nobody believes me when I say it. I've learned and I've watched 503 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:10.079 so many people come and go way more talented, more funny, smarter than 504 00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:20.320 I am. You know, incredible intellectual knowledge and degrees. But yet you 505 00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.440 know a lot of people seem to have this self destruct button. It's not 506 00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:28.880 healthy to be famous. I say it all the time, And I think 507 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.960 two things have kept me grounded. Number one, my very strong belief in 508 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:37.400 God, and it is real. And number two, you know the fact 509 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.519 that I was twelve years old washing dishes and thirteen of cook and did all 510 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.960 ten years in the restaurant business and ten years in construction. That was real 511 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.800 work, and it kept me grounded. And you know, I get on 512 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.159 my knees every day and I thank God for what I consider an undeserved life. 513 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.400 Billy Cunningham, I've you and I people like us. We have been 514 00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.480 blessed beyond what we deserve. It's that simple to me. Whenever I get 515 00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:04.480 around, You're and your clan, your sisters keep you in line too, 516 00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.960 and sweet baby, keep you in line. And I'm always reminded of of 517 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:13.559 great Roman generals coming back from gaul and there'd be a slave in the in 518 00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.280 the chariot saying, oh yes, but famous fleeting, And boy is that 519 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:20.159 the truth. And so when you have a good family structure, you got 520 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.440 sis, but you got sisters, you got your in laws, you got 521 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:27.360 your group. It kind of My sister just tried to call while we were 522 00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.039 talking, and you know, sweet Baby, James is standing, you know, 523 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:37.159 five feet away from me. Billy Cunningham says, hello, But you're 524 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:44.960 a great American bolt hunting them this. Do you consider what you do to 525 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:49.599 be work? I mean no, no. If I didn't get paid to 526 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:52.800 do what I do, I probably still do it anyway. One day when 527 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.760 they take this microphone or rip it away from me or take away that camera, 528 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.840 uh, I probably going to drive around in the car and start doing 529 00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:06.280 a talk show host for myself. And I'll do the host that I'll be 530 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.280 the caller and then they're gonna want to put me away in a funny farm 531 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:14.440 somewhere, probably deservedly so. But on a serious note, we have been 532 00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.920 through how many election cycles together? How many years did we go out and 533 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:28.320 campaign in Ohio and Florida and Pennsylvania and asively done dozens a lot. I 534 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.800 loved it. But Sean Hannity, this election, I think we when we 535 00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:37.440 when we text. If Trump is re elected, there's going to be total 536 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.880 chaos, more indictments, more lawsuits, more media coverage. On the other 537 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.119 hand, his policies work. But on the other hand, if the interchangeable 538 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:50.480 drill bit takes over in November, it could be Biden. I doubt it. 539 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.119 It could be Michelle, it could be god knows who. Kevin Knwsom 540 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.639 did that great debate a couple of weeks ago, and then we're gonna have 541 00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.440 chaos. By the way I did that, I did that on purpose. 542 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:04.440 Sure Joe's going to be the guy. And the reason that I first did 543 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.599 the interview with Gavin followed up by the debate with Governor DeSantis, who's you 544 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.679 know, a great governor. I'm glad to have finally a governor that I 545 00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:15.920 like. I will tell you. I was warning people, you've got to 546 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:22.599 look beyond Joe Biden and what and know what's out there now. Gavin didn't 547 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.719 answer my questions. I thought the statistics. I did a fact based debate, 548 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.280 all right, here are the statistics on homelessness, here are the numbers 549 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.000 of illegal immigrants. Here's what it's costing your estate. Here's your budget, 550 00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:39.280 here's this budget, here's crime statistics. And it was fact based, and 551 00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:45.800 frankly, the numbers in Florida are just infinitely better than those in California. 552 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:47.000 And people said, well, that was unfair. I said, well, 553 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:51.679 if you don't like the numbers, change the policy. Don't blame the messenger. 554 00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.719 But I do think that there is a possibility that we're going to see 555 00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:04.159 at the Democratic National Committee convention rout a possible you know, swap out joke. 556 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.559 I could see any scenario where Joe would come out and say I'm not 557 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.639 up to the I don't think I can run, and then the powers that 558 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.280 be the Apparatrick would then make the choice for the for the Democratic Party, 559 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:21.360 and I think Gavins would be right up there, and Kamala Harris could be 560 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:25.559 easily shut aside by someone like Michelle Obama, and that's going to be one 561 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:29.800 hell of a fight. We've had interesting elections in the past, Sean Hannity, 562 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.199 and nothing is going to get us ready for what's happening now because they've 563 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:37.559 thrown everything at Donald Trump and the kitchen sink and it's not worked at this 564 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:43.920 point. Every amazing, Yes, yes, how are when you think about 565 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:51.159 this, this man, you know it goes It defies all conventional political gravity. 566 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:55.079 We've been doing our jobs. I'm now in by what thirty fourth year 567 00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.760 in radio. I think you've got me beat by a few years. And 568 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.119 we've never seen anything like this, and I don't we're never going to see 569 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:09.159 anything like it again in our lifetime. And yet every single indictment ends up 570 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:14.559 with higher poll numbers, every arrayment higher poll numbers. Can you explain that, 571 00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:16.639 Billy Cunningham? But as I can't, people have figured it out. 572 00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:22.119 They understand that Democrats, for example, can do exactly the same thing, 573 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.480 in fact ten times the same thing, and it's put off to the side, 574 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:29.599 it's under investigation. But the same treatment they gave Ronald Reagan Bush forty 575 00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.599 one, Bush forty three Trump before he got to office is consistent. But 576 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:38.159 now it's metastasized. This Trump phenomenon is such that they have to make sure 577 00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:44.440 he can't stand for re election because everything they got control of the checkbook, 578 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.800 Sean Hannity. Right now the Democrats are riting the checks, and they don't 579 00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:50.679 want to stop writing the checks, and they want the southern border to be 580 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.000 open. Imagine we texted on this. Imagine five years from now, we're 581 00:48:54.039 --> 00:49:00.719 completing the first Michelle Obama term of the first Gavin new Then it goes four 582 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:06.519 more years. Say we got nine years more of exactly the same policies that 583 00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.639 Biden has on the southern border and on spending, and on the cities and 584 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:15.119 public education. What does America look like in nine years with the same policy 585 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:20.559 That would be unrecognizable. That would not be the country that we grew up 586 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:25.199 in, a country that believed in freedom and liberty and capitalism and hard work 587 00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:30.840 being rewarded. All of those things would just disappear. Look the greatest threat. 588 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.039 Most people have not paid attention to what's going on at the southern border. 589 00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.679 By the way, this should be an impeachable offense. Joe Biden swore 590 00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:42.800 an oath to uphold our Constitution that means enforcing the laws of the land. 591 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.039 I'm all for immigration. I just want to I want a background check, 592 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:52.159 I want a health check, and you know, I want a means test 593 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.199 so we know people are not going to be a burden on there on the 594 00:49:55.239 --> 00:50:00.000 new country that they're entering. Other than that, Welcome to our country, 595 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:04.920 go for it, Welcome to freedom. You know, we hope you make 596 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.079 the best out of it, but we're not doing that. Eight and a 597 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.639 half million people, Billy Cunningham. In three years, this guy has allowed 598 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:15.880 unvetted people. Hundreds from Iran, hundreds from Syria, thousands from Egypt, 599 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:21.320 home of the Muslim Brotherhood, Iran the number one state sponsor of terror their 600 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:27.280 satellite Syria. You have thousands from Afghanistan, home of al Qaida. You've 601 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:32.039 got twelve thousand plus from Russia or number two geopolitical foe, twenty six thousand 602 00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.280 from China. Billy Cunningham. That's a lot of illegal immigrants. Why are 603 00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:42.599 these people traveling all across the globe to show up at our southern border. 604 00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.800 Is it because they want a better life for themselves and their family or maybe 605 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:51.599 some of them, maybe a tiny percentage, but enough of them have intentions 606 00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.760 to hurt our country and hurt the people of this great country. That's what 607 00:50:54.880 --> 00:51:00.280 scares me. Under Joe Biden, New York City has eight point five million 608 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:04.960 people in the ninety five or percent or higher are great Americans. I went 609 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.280 into that city in twenty eleven, thinking I was there once in my life. 610 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.679 I said, this is going to be awful. When I left in 611 00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:13.639 twenty fifteen, on a regular basis, I said, boy, there are 612 00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:16.599 some great people that live in New York. But in the last three years 613 00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:22.599 there's been about eight million illegals come into America, which is the size of 614 00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.360 New York City. And that's only the beginning. I'm waiting for my YORKA. 615 00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:29.360 So I guess the impeachment thing is going to be filed at some point 616 00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.480 to say, you know, what is one hundred million, is it fifty 617 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.280 million, is it two hundred million? What's the number we can allow in? 618 00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.719 It doesn't stop. Well, I mean, did you see him yesterday? 619 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:44.840 Yesterday he blamed the environment, he blamed Trump, he blamed Abbot, 620 00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:49.719 he blamed you know, everything but himself. Now, on the other hand, 621 00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:53.920 this is the same guy, along with Kamala Harris and Joe Biden that 622 00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:59.639 repeatedly lied to all of us by saying that the border is closed, in 623 00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.159 the border secure. Stop lying. I hate being lied to. You know, 624 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:06.320 if your kids, if my kids do something stupid, and you know 625 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:10.360 my kids, I'm fine with that. I made a few dumb decisions when 626 00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:15.079 I was young. But if you plaid out lie to me, then you're 627 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.320 really going to be in trouble. I can't stand it. Yea, so 628 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:24.280 h yeah, And now they're going to sue Greg Abbott. I had Abbott 629 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:30.400 on TV last night, you know, pursuing him because he's doing their job 630 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:35.239 and enforcing the law. But back to the Constitution. Now, if you 631 00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.400 or I or anybody you know in the great city of Cincinnati, the home 632 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:43.239 of Skyline Chili, which, by the way, I can buy frozen spaghetti, 633 00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:47.039 Skyline Chili and public right down here in Florida where I live my new 634 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:52.280 home, and I've already had two h Sweet baby, James, you can 635 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.840 pull it out. I'll take a picture and send it to your Billy Cunningham. 636 00:52:55.039 --> 00:53:00.039 I stock up on Skyline Chile and spaghetti. You're and it's only and 637 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:05.760 because I want to keep my weight down. Whatever. But anyway, long 638 00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:10.000 story we can save this country. Sure, there's nobody that can tell you 639 00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:14.840 with any degree of certainty what's going to happen in November. I can tell 640 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.440 you what's going to lead up to November. And what's what we're going to 641 00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:22.119 hear is Trump, Trump, Trump and how evil and dangerous he is. 642 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:28.239 We're going to hear about January sixth at nauseum. Uh. We're going to 643 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:34.199 hear the the about abortion day in and day out. And the people of 644 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:37.360 Ohio went out and voted, they made their decision. I think it happens 645 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:43.280 to be politically. I'm not speaking morally where the country is. And I 646 00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:46.199 think Republicans need to take note of what the people of Ohio said on that 647 00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:51.960 referendum. And the last thing they're going to ever want to talk about is 648 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:57.800 Joe's fell record, because he doesn't have a record of success, se said. 649 00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:01.039 Buckle up, Sean Hannity, you can add to that the traditional playbook 650 00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:06.960 of Republicans are racist and sexist, and misogynistic and homophobic. You know the 651 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:10.199 whole list of phobias. I don't have any phobias. I don't. I 652 00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:15.880 find racism repugnant, I find sexism repugnant. I believe God created every man, 653 00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:19.440 woman and child on this earth, Tilly Cunningham, and I believe it 654 00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.000 with all my heart. Sean Hannity to conclude, I would say this that 655 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:27.119 if we have the continuation of the Trump policies, America will flourish. If 656 00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:31.400 we continue the present policies, America is finished, done, over with and 657 00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.880 over my dead body. You and I need to be like William of Wallace 658 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.920 with our intestines pulled out, yelling the word freedom, freedom. And you 659 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:46.199 ask me why voters continue to want Trump back in office, because they figured 660 00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:50.559 it out as to what the Democrats have done to this country are not for 661 00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:54.199 the country. As William Wallace said, as he knew he might be walking 662 00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:59.679 into a trap, I've got to try. We've got to try what we've 663 00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:01.440 been doing in all these years. I want all those things I prayed to 664 00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:06.719 God for those things, you know, a family and children. And then 665 00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.559 he walked into what ultimately became his death. Bring down, bring down long 666 00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:15.599 Shanks, Long Shanks, must bring out Long Shanks. Long Shanks looks like 667 00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:22.719 Joe Biden. Actually. Nonetheless, one of the greatest moments is when when 668 00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:29.320 his daughter in law whispers in his ear that she's pregnant and the child is 669 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:40.000 not from his son. Absolutely, Sean Andy, congratulations, thanks for coming 670 00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.679 on again, and let's keep the line. Blessing No cunning and we need 671 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.639 your voice this year. And God bless the people of Ohio, God bless 672 00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:51.840 the people in this country, and God bless America. My friend, ye're 673 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:55.440 my best is sweet baby, thank you? All right, calculated big Dog 674 00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:59.440 Fender, we love him too, by big Dog's the best. He likes 675 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:00.920 to bark. All right, Let's continue with more, Sean, thank you. 676 00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:05.199 Let's continue with more if a line becomes available. Eight sixty six six 677 00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:09.400 four seven seven three three seven Bill cunning in the Great American Live with you 678 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:17.440 every Sunday Night. By Billy Cunning in the Great American. I have related 679 00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:23.000 to you previously on my long association with the great Sean Hannity. Many made 680 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:28.079 it on TV, but not radio. Many made it on radio or not 681 00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:32.440 TV. But in my lifetime, no one has succeeded longer on radio and 682 00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:37.760 TV than Sean Hannity. So he, along with millions of others, are 683 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:44.280 emptying out the Blue cities and the Blue States. Crime, homelessness, degeneration 684 00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:47.840 of society, and also high taxes, rules and regulations. That's why he 685 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:53.360 left and came to Florida. And I hope he has a long sustained career 686 00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:58.239 in both. But Sean Hannah and I kind of agree on the big issue, 687 00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.559 and that is that Joe Biden, I'll be able to withstand what's going 688 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:06.280 to happen. He looked awful in Valley Forge after the speech as his wife 689 00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:09.840 helped him off stage and secret Service agents had to get him into the Beast 690 00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:16.360 before it was too late. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night, Jilly 691 00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:20.119 Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, welcome, Happy New Year and 692 00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:22.840 all that kind of stuff. But the extreme isn't from the left, continues 693 00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:29.239 Steve gorm As, executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and author 694 00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:32.480 of four great books on energy, climate change, and sustainable development, over 695 00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:38.159 one hundred thousand in print. And Steve's book, The Green Breakdown came out 696 00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:42.440 in August and after the last four or five months, it's the best seller. 697 00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.119 And Steve Gorham, first of all, in twenty twenty four, welcome 698 00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:49.000 again to the Bill Cunningham Show. I have so much to talk with you 699 00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:52.480 about. But the first thing is this I met I referenced to off the 700 00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:59.119 air that I read over New Year's a column from a twenty one year old 701 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:06.519 female who says that she and her z friends are not going to have children. 702 00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:08.159 And I'm reading into this column, which is, by the way, 703 00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:14.599 quite lengthy, and it references the fact that the planet is dying. The 704 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:19.760 woman's name is Anna Lee. She's an intern at CNN, and she says, 705 00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:23.159 if temperatures weren't rising, I choose the name Athena for a girl. 706 00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:28.599 If the rivers are safe, I'd choose William for a boy. If I 707 00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:32.039 could breathe clean air on my morning commute, I'd paint the nursery a warm 708 00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:37.440 yellow. She goes on to say that she and Oliver gen Z buddies those 709 00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:43.800 born between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve are done having children because the planet 710 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.719 is dying. Were all going to be dust in the wind. May I 711 00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:51.960 get your reaction first? Yeah, Happy New Year, Bill, Great to 712 00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:57.400 join you again. That's just such a very, very sad situation. We've 713 00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.960 had only one degree of warming since one degree, sells he has since eighteen 714 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:04.079 eighty, one hundred and forty years have been many times in the past when 715 00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:07.400 it's been warmer, she's worried about her air being cleaned. But the air 716 00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:13.920 is the cleanest there in probably eighty or one hundred years. We used to 717 00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:21.039 be burning coal in furnaces and homes, and there's just no evidence that her 718 00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:22.960 not having a child is going to have any effect on the climate. And 719 00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:28.519 all the other young people that are misguided about these issues. Well, and 720 00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:32.400 one other point in this column is that forty percent this isn't a fringe idea 721 00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:39.119 among child bearing women. Forty percent in the University of Bath I think that's 722 00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:44.880 in England study, forty percent said that they will not have children because there's 723 00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:50.639 no future, no children. And among them, eighteen year old Emma Lynn 724 00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:53.039 said, quote, I'm giving up my dream of being a mother. I'm 725 00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:59.480 not going to necessarily kill my own children. It's like, it's just it's 726 00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:01.599 terrible. She won't have the joy family. And when she gets to be 727 01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:06.639 seven years old and realizes that the climate hasn't been destroyed, she'll have no 728 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.000 family. I mean, it just is very, very sad. And we 729 01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:15.159 have all these leaders running around the world spouting this stuff. It's just crazy. 730 01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:22.360 I mean, an example is John Carey at the recent COP twenty eight 731 01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:25.960 Climate conference, he said we shouldn't allow a coal plant anywhere in the world. 732 01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:34.400 And that's just a just a radically crazy statement. The world gets thirty 733 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.159 five percent of its electricity right now from cold fired power plants. We have 734 01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:42.760 four thousand of those plants out there, another a thousand are being built and 735 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:47.119 planning. Yet we have an electricity shortage around the world. Seven hundred people 736 01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:52.559 don't have access to electricity. We have another two billion that have blackouts or 737 01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:58.039 brownouts every day or every other day. We have hundreds of hospitals that don't 738 01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.559 have electricity. If you can imagine that, no air conditioning, no electricity 739 01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.960 for an operating room, and mister Carey's running around saying we have to get 740 01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.159 rid of all the electricity plants. I mean, it just is remarkable and 741 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:12.239 very very sad, and it injures people, not only this woman in a 742 01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:15.960 wealthy nation, but all the people in poor nations around the world. Where 743 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:20.159 does this come from, Steve Going, Where does it come from? I 744 01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:24.199 think almost like an indoctrination. If somebody had been in Clyde Gay's classes at 745 01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:29.559 the Harvard before she became president for a few weeks and then lost her job. 746 01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:32.639 The radicalism is unbelievable. It's almost as if when kids come out of 747 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:37.480 college we have to have like a deep programming school. We have to do 748 01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.960 something to get these children away from the indoctrination. But the first step has 749 01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:45.960 got to be to stop the indoctrination. Any hope of that. I want 750 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:50.280 to talk about air conditioning, But tell me about this, well, the 751 01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:55.440 phrases climatism. Climatism is an ideology. It's very powerful. It's the belief 752 01:01:55.960 --> 01:02:00.920 that humans are causing dangerous global warming, spouted by all the political leaders in 753 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:05.800 the world, and it ought to be called what it is. It's a 754 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:09.480 powerful ideology, and unfortunately people believe this. This is the biggest, the 755 01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:15.400 biggest superstition in modern history, that a trace gas is causing dangerous global warming. 756 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:21.239 And uh, it's it's just captured most everyone. It's very, very 757 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:24.679 unfortunate. And the world is spending about a trillion dollars a year and they 758 01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:29.599 want to spend four or five trillion a year on renewables to try and try 759 01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:31.800 and stop the planet from warming, but that isn't going to have any effect. 760 01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:37.679 Global warming continues to be dominated by natural factors, not man made emissions. 761 01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:43.360 And as far as I can recall, as a child, I live 762 01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:46.000 in little Cincinnati, Ohio, and Cincinnati is like in a bowl. A 763 01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:51.119 Cincinnati is like the basin, and on either side are the hills of Kentucky 764 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:53.719 and then the rise of Ohio to the to the north, and in the 765 01:02:53.719 --> 01:03:00.679 middle is the city of Cincinnati. I can specifically recall small or smoke, 766 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:02.960 whatever you want to say, on the basin of Cincinnati. As a child, 767 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.320 you could look out over from the University of Cincinnati, looked down on 768 01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:13.159 Cincinnati into Covington, Kentucky, and there'd be a permanent haze there in the 769 01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:17.079 winter time, a permanent haze. And my mother tells me about the horses, 770 01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:22.079 the cows, the mules dropping feces, thousands and thousands of mosquitoes and 771 01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:28.000 flies, people walking in it. Living in a small for three to five 772 01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:30.880 months every year. Because of the coal fired power plants, the coal was 773 01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:36.800 delivered from the street into the basement then put into the furnaces. Can you 774 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:39.039 Amaine? And that's the way it is the most of the world, correct, 775 01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:43.840 But not in America. Yeah, our pollutions down about ninety eight percent 776 01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:47.239 since the nineteen fifties. My grandfather had a coal furnace in his basement and 777 01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:51.519 he did the same thing. And in Chicago, after four or five days 778 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:53.599 in the winter, after it snowed, you'd see a black film of coal 779 01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:58.360 dust. And all these young folks who think the air so terrible does they 780 01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:01.599 don't know what spring cleaning was for. Or literally, in the nineteen fifties, 781 01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:06.400 everybody in the spring would wash the inside of their walls in their houses 782 01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:11.679 to take off the coal dust. I remember driving past Gary, Indiana, 783 01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:14.679 and if film covered our windows, we had to stop and wipe off our 784 01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:18.079 windows from the steel mills, or driving into southern California through the Mohave Desert 785 01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:23.239 in the nineteen sixties and watching the smog roll up the desert. Our era 786 01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.320 is very very clean nowadays, and we need to continue to reduce that. 787 01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:29.760 By the way, we've done a terrific job, and that's because we put 788 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:33.880 the scrubbers on our coal plants, and our volatile organic compounds out of automobile 789 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:39.920 exhaust are down ninety eight percent since the nineteen seventies. So our era is 790 01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:44.800 very very clean. But now everybody's doing handsprings over carbon dioxide which isn't a 791 01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:49.239 pollutant in any case, we admit about everybody breeds out about two pounds of 792 01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:55.119 carbon dioxide every single day and it makes the plants grow. So this is 793 01:04:55.199 --> 01:05:00.000 completely completely haywire that we have all these government leaders run round spouting things. 794 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.800 You know, do you hear what missus Clinton said? Hillary Clinton, she 795 01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:09.760 wants to is she learned from COVID when every day we were posting deaths around 796 01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:12.360 the world, every single day you could see it on the internet. Well, 797 01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:17.400 she wants to start posting climate deaths now and because there's been some heat 798 01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:21.159 waves. But she doesn't realize. Guess what, We're having fewer deaths because 799 01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:26.679 warm temperatures are better for people. So but you know, it just goes 800 01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:30.239 on and on. Well, there was a story we got to talk about 801 01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:33.400 the what we're headed for in the green breakdown, But there was a story 802 01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:38.320 in the Wall Street Journal about Ford dealers having to spend a half a million 803 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:43.719 to a million dollars each to become e compliant with Ford. And the Ford 804 01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:47.639 dealers are almost in rebellion because they can't sell evs. Explain what's happening there, 805 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:50.880 because that's part of the green breakdown. I think, yeah, they're 806 01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:57.920 having a revolt. The Ford dealers don't want to sell evs. GM has 807 01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:00.039 done a different thing. They're doing a buyout on all the dealers that don't 808 01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:04.800 want to do it because they want to force this on everybody. But it's 809 01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:09.960 no doubt electric vehicles have hit a speedmump. Inventories are up over three hundred 810 01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:15.280 percent of these these dealers. Ford Motor is losing forty to sixty thousand dollars 811 01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:20.000 on each EV sold we have. The price of used electric vehicles has dropped 812 01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:25.320 thirty percent in the last year thirty percent. And oh, by the way, 813 01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:28.079 the federal government keeps pouring money into this. You know, there's a 814 01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:32.000 subsidy of up to seven thousand dollars if you buy an EV our tax dollars 815 01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:36.320 a tax credit, and then if you buy a used one, there's another 816 01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:41.239 up to four thousand dollars subsidy, and if that's sold again, there's another 817 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:44.800 federal subsidy. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. 818 01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.960 Here. This crazy idea that if we all drive electric vehicles we can stop 819 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:56.199 the oceans from rising sounds like Obama. Well again, it's part of this 820 01:06:56.280 --> 01:07:00.920 big misconception, the superstition. And by the way, hey in Cincinnati or 821 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.559 Chicago, it's cold weather and real tough to charge your EV right now, 822 01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:08.000 particularly outside. You got to run your you got to hit your garage all 823 01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:12.880 winter, which isn't very, very cost effective if you want to charge your 824 01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:16.960 EV. Let's talk about the green breakdown that lies ahead. And part of 825 01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:20.199 your book deals with Okay, we're going to have a come to Jesus moment 826 01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:25.280 and what do you see coming? Twenty twenty four is here? What do 827 01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:29.039 you see coming between now and twenty thirty. Yeah, So the world is 828 01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.599 driving for a thing called net zero by twenty fifty. They want to get 829 01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:35.079 rid of all the coal, oil and natural gas. They want to force 830 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:40.360 a way to drive electric vehicles, and they want get everybody to use electric 831 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:44.440 stoves instead of gas stoves. But we're already seeing a breakdown. I was 832 01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.199 predicting maybe a decade out, but we're seeing some of this now. Offshore 833 01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:50.000 win in the East Coast, about half of those projects say they can't make 834 01:07:50.039 --> 01:07:57.719 money and they've pulled out. In Germany, Zeeman's Wind Energy just got a 835 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:02.159 ten billion euro bailout from the German government. We have this ev speed bump 836 01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:06.000 slowdown, as we talked about. If you look at these stock markets, 837 01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:13.559 the renics industry, the Renics Index of the world's top renewable energy stocks, 838 01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:16.239 these things have been down three years in a row now, the renewable energy 839 01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:20.720 companies, and they continue to fall, and so you know, we're starting 840 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:25.399 to see a problem. Despite all these efforts of governments to push all this 841 01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:30.920 stuff, the economics and the market factors are winning out, and we're going 842 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.600 to see a green breakdown. People are going to demand a return to low 843 01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:38.479 cost, reliable energy. They don't want to put up with higher electricity prices, 844 01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:42.640 they don't want to put up with electricity blackouts and the other problems that 845 01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:46.560 this transition is causing. Steve Gorman on one of the morning talk shows there 846 01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:50.600 was an expert that said, we're pumping more oil and natural gas than ever 847 01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:55.520 before. There was an environmentalist there who said, you know what, that 848 01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:59.640 is a total, complete disaster. The indoctrination of the young, I think 849 01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:04.159 is But as far as going forward, assuming that this breakdown does occur, 850 01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:08.920 and I look what's happening around the world, and something's got to give because 851 01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:13.840 people cannot continue to pay four or five hundred dollars a month in electricity bills 852 01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:17.680 they can't afford. An ev minimum wage increases are heralded as if that's the 853 01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:21.680 most you can ever make. And so looking down the road, when this 854 01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:27.520 morning we heard that we're pumping more oil and gas than ever and that's causing 855 01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:31.880 problems among the so called greens with Joe Biden. But as far as why 856 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:36.239 is that happening in a climate in which he has at this point cut off 857 01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:41.439 so many permits, is this is it a good I think it's a great 858 01:09:41.439 --> 01:09:44.239 thing for pumping oil and gas. In fact, that we had more, 859 01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:47.319 the price would even come down further. But how the green movement wants to 860 01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:51.960 know is Joe Biden on their side or on normal people side? What would 861 01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:56.840 you say about the pumping of all this oil? Well, everybody wants to 862 01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:59.439 be green until it hits their pocketbook, and it tends to be a big 863 01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:03.279 issue price of gasoline. It's still up a dollars and a half since when 864 01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:08.560 Trump left office, and mister Biden has done a lot of things to try 865 01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.680 and stop permits and stop drilling. But on the other hand, you know, 866 01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:15.399 he's kind of concerned about that and so are. We are the biggest 867 01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:20.920 producer of oil. We're the biggest producer of natural gas in the world, 868 01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:25.840 and the biggest exporter of liquified natural gas, the biggest exporter of propane. 869 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:30.640 We literally kept the lights on in Europe last winter. They would have had 870 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.119 a blackouts all over the continent if we weren't shipping them liquified natural gas. 871 01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:40.039 And so these are really good things for people. It keeps their prices low. 872 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:43.079 But we have a bunch of places that are going to suffer. New 873 01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:47.079 England is one of those. They have blocked pipeline building through New York State 874 01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:51.079 to the east to New England states for many, many years. England is 875 01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:59.640 now importing a bunch of liquified natural gas at high world prices and winter you 876 01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:02.720 bills. Energy bills cost over one thousand dollars for an average size house in 877 01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:06.319 New England. And we're going to see we're going to see blackouts there we 878 01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:10.439 get a real cold winter. So far, it hasn't been the case this 879 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:14.640 winter and last winter either, but people are going to say, hey, 880 01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:17.199 enough of this. I don't want to see that the solar farm next to 881 01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:20.359 my house. I don't want to see those wind turbines blinking on and off. 882 01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:25.399 I want to hold on to my internal combustion engine car, and I 883 01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:28.039 don't want to have to get a heat pump that doesn't work in cold weather. 884 01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:33.399 Despite what all these leaders say, do you see di lithium crystals described 885 01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:38.319 in Star Trek? How long will it be before we have like this unlimited 886 01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:42.760 amount of energy? Maybe it's cold nuclear fusion. I think Toyota is going 887 01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:45.359 the right way when it comes to hybrids, But nonetheless, at what point 888 01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:49.720 are we going to say, boy, we have dilithium crystals, everything's free, 889 01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:55.520 everything's available. How many decades will that take? Our centuries? Yeah, 890 01:11:55.720 --> 01:12:00.279 well, there are some possible possible technological advances that could have a nuclear 891 01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:04.119 right now is too expensive. It needs some breakthroughs and costs, but there's 892 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:09.880 there are opportunities there, possibly with small modular reactors or molten salt reactors. 893 01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:15.039 Geothermal is another possible place where we could come up with some things, but 894 01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:19.239 it's very, very tough to beat the low cost of natural gas, the 895 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:26.359 fuels that come from petroleum. Today, ninety one percent of world transportation vehicles 896 01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:31.159 come from fuels from petroleum, another four percent from natural gas. Only three 897 01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:36.199 percent from biofuels and about one percent from electricity. So these hydrocarbons continue to 898 01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:42.239 dominate our transportation. They also dominate all of our heavy industries, steel, 899 01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:47.319 plastic, cement, ammonia. And it's going to be decades and decades before 900 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:51.600 these things are replaced, if ever now well, the book is The Green 901 01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:56.920 Breakdown, and I would encourage all young women to get married. I'd encourage 902 01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:01.199 young men to lead a wonderful girl and form a family life, have children. 903 01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:05.159 Don't don't be filled with fear. This came out of money, because 904 01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:09.920 whenever there's an issue, follow the money. There's so much money involved in 905 01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:13.760 the so called green energy. All of us are against pollution, but all 906 01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:15.720 of us want cheap, reliable energy. I don't like pollution, and the 907 01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:20.520 pollution problem and developed countries have largely been solved. It's taken care of the 908 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:25.000 rest of the world. And once again, Steve Gorm, thank you. 909 01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:27.680 And how do you get your book The Green Breakdown? How does that happen? 910 01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:30.319 Yeah, if they go to my website, I'll send them a signed 911 01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:32.640 copy. Steve Gorham G O R E H A M dot com. It's 912 01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:36.479 also on Amazon and there are ebooks as well, Steve Gorm. You're the 913 01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:40.399 best on this topic. And once again let's start to new year off right 914 01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:43.720 by having Steve Gorm on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Steve, thank you 915 01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:45.720 very much for coming on. Thank you. Bill. All right, let's 916 01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:48.680 continue with more. 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Of course, over the past year, 924 01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:53.680 we've had record numbers on the southern border, and if you've listened to 925 01:14:53.720 --> 01:14:56.720 me, the Great American for a long period of time, there's two issues 926 01:14:56.760 --> 01:15:00.840 that are mortal dangers in this country. Number one is a thirty four trillion 927 01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:05.319 dollar accumulated national debt which is going up. Two trillion dollars a year. 928 01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:10.039 That makes all of our dollars funny money. And the other critical issue is 929 01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:14.039 what's happening or not happening on the southern border. And maybe one fuels the 930 01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:15.880 other to one extent or another. But let's face it, when you have 931 01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:21.399 a record December of three hundred and two thousand illegals that are that are coming 932 01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:27.359 across the southern border, not counting the Goudaways and not counting other illegal activities, 933 01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:32.000 the country is experiencing an invasion like something we've not seen our in our 934 01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:36.760 historical lifetime. It is unbelievable. And Eric grew Ark is with the numbers 935 01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:42.319 USA, one of the great organizations in the nation's capital, trying to adjust 936 01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:45.600 what's happening with the Southern border numbers. And Eric, first of all, 937 01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:47.640 Happy New Year, and welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you 938 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:54.279 tell the American people how is the proportionality of three hundred and two thousand compared 939 01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:59.520 to other months and years in which it's been equally bad. We'll happy new 940 01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.600 year to you in your audience. You know, we talked a few weeks 941 01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:09.119 back about the I guess the October numbers and the Biden administration was crowing because 942 01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:14.119 the encounters were down, right, but they were down from a record month, 943 01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.079 right, So that we pointed out that's not really anything to brag about 944 01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:19.079 that you're not breaking a record every month, but we're back to breaking a 945 01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:24.039 record. You know, three hundred and two thousand encounters is an all time 946 01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:28.520 Excuse me, it is an all time high for any month. And you 947 01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:33.199 know that it compares really only to previous months of the Biden administration. Now, 948 01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:39.119 we have had some which have approached that in years past, but that's 949 01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:43.920 been very seldom and presidents. The big difference is presidents have responded by doing 950 01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:47.319 something to stop that. You know, President Trump had surges that he dealt 951 01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:53.119 with. President Obama had surges and he dealt with those as well, and 952 01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:57.119 so they realized that this is not good number one politically, but also there's 953 01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:00.079 this you know under Secretary I mean, I'm sorry to President Obama. You 954 01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:04.199 had Secretary j. Johnson who did recognize it was a crisis and did take 955 01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:10.439 steps to try to stem that crisis. You know, the administration's response, 956 01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:15.640 and this is a direct quote from the Press secretary on the December twenty third, 957 01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:19.279 was this is not unusual. There's nothing really did be concerned about. 958 01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:25.199 Now the Republicans, the Speaker Johnson's leading a delegation. I believe there's sixty 959 01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:29.600 members of the House who are going with him, and so they're trying to 960 01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:33.520 bring attention to this an upcome, you know, in lieu of the upcoming 961 01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:40.079 fight over the budget the DHS, which comes due in February. And so 962 01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:45.960 Speaker Johnson and we've had support in the Senate among Republicans who have said without 963 01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:48.439 bor security, there will be no funding. So we'll see if they hold 964 01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:53.560 tight to that. But you know, they understand the problem here. Americans 965 01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:57.760 understand the problem. I think the Biden administration understands it as well, but 966 01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:01.279 they certainly don't seem to want to take any other than go on social media 967 01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:04.640 and tweet out that the border secure and there are consequences, you know, 968 01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:09.399 and their consequences for a few people, right, But ninety five percent of 969 01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:12.479 the people are getting in and most of them, you know, who are 970 01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:17.000 showing up, are getting released into the interior by the Biden administration. And 971 01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:23.119 when I listened to these Democratic mayors Johnson and I listen to what's happening in 972 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:27.880 Los Angeles, Portland, New York. I'm listening to these guys and even 973 01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:32.439 Democratic voters, and I watched the story out of Chicago this morning in which 974 01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:39.279 Grand Park's been overtaken by homeless camps, homeless and shelters, city parks, 975 01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:44.119 sleeping on city streets. In New York, the Roosevelt Hotel is filled with 976 01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:46.800 migrants that are destroying many of the rooms that don't fit into our culture one 977 01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:50.079 way or another, don't have the skills we need. But the residents of 978 01:18:50.119 --> 01:18:55.119 New York and Chicago and Portland are saying, we can't take it anymore. 979 01:18:55.199 --> 01:19:00.239 This is it. But Mayor Johnson and Brandon Johnson and Cho Caugo is still 980 01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:05.239 singing the company tune that we have to be welcoming, we are sanctuary city. 981 01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:09.640 I'll ask you this, Eric, this is January of twenty twenty four. 982 01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:14.520 Let's jump ahead three or four years. Let's say an unmitigated disaster takes 983 01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:17.520 place in November the fifth, and we have a Democratic president continuing I can't 984 01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:20.760 believe it's going to be Joe Biden mentally, he can't make it. But 985 01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:26.960 whether some other interchangeable drill bit takes over, and let's say we continue these 986 01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:31.319 same policies for the next four to eight years. It is now twenty thirty 987 01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:36.399 and we have the same policies of three hundred thousand a month, which is, 988 01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:41.960 you know, about four million a year time six or seven. It's 989 01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:45.960 a population the size of Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana all put together. What 990 01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:51.840 does America look like? Well, that's a good question, and that's you 991 01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:56.880 know, the short answer is that's not looking good, right if these policies 992 01:19:56.920 --> 01:20:01.560 continue. And that's what's important about Speaker Johnson in this upcoming budget bat is 993 01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:06.039 you know, Congress has the power of the purse they've passed HR two, 994 01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:12.920 whether they're going to maintain that position and say that the Bide administration must implement 995 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:16.359 these policies because the Biden administrations is asking for more funding to their argument is 996 01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:20.399 the problem is in our policies is that we don't have enough money to deal 997 01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:26.000 with this influx, right, And that's what Mayor Johnson's saying. Mayor Adams 998 01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:29.600 is saying the same thing. We see Governor in Arizona Hobb's saying the same 999 01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.720 thing. And so they're recognizing the crisis, but their solution isn't a secure 1000 01:20:32.760 --> 01:20:39.159 border. Their solution is taxpayers must subsidize this process even more. And that's 1001 01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:43.880 really the model that they've set up is they want this influx for various reasons. 1002 01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:46.760 Number one because it's cheap labor. And you know, I think I 1003 01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:50.079 said this to the audience, to your audience before. Cheap labor is very 1004 01:20:50.119 --> 01:20:54.920 expensive. Right, it's a good deal for the employers, but it's the 1005 01:20:55.000 --> 01:21:00.239 taxpayers are on the hook for picking up the cost of subsidizing. In that 1006 01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:03.720 sheet flavor, and that's you know, maryor Johnson. He's fine with the 1007 01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:10.279 influx as long as his constituents aren't on the hook because they're they're up in 1008 01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:12.840 arms, right, and so he's trying to deflect by saying, well, 1009 01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:16.520 it's DC's problem. Well it is, but DC's solution has to be securing 1010 01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:20.199 the border. And right now, you know, can sink from the as 1011 01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:24.239 you say, the song sheet, but the Bide administration doesn't seem to be 1012 01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:29.600 singing in tune when it comes to even pretending to take it seriously. Eric, 1013 01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:32.159 you have a column that you say the following. A new study found 1014 01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:39.880 that illegal immigrants coust American taxpayers at least one hundred and fifty billion dollars per 1015 01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:45.600 year, which is twelve hundred dollars per taxpayer, twelve hundred dollars. Explain 1016 01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:47.920 where those numbers come from. That seems like a bit low to me because 1017 01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:55.720 of emergency rooms and public education, whether it's a criminal element that comes in 1018 01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:59.880 fentanyl, how does the number one hundred and fifty billion or twelve hundred dollars 1019 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:04.199 or taxpayer, where does that come from? Well, the and then this 1020 01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:08.359 is people need to realize, is most of those costs that you point out 1021 01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:11.840 when it comes to emergency room care, those are born in state and local. 1022 01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:15.159 Now, it's not always easy to get at the costs because number one, 1023 01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:17.199 the people who are in the country legally aren't aren't going to self report 1024 01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:23.399 these these issues. So you have to look at it for various data sources. 1025 01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:28.279 But it's it's it's public education K through twelve, it's in state tuition. 1026 01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:31.039 Some states offer in state tuition. It's medical care. And now we're 1027 01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:36.680 talking about housing and even Chicago, Illinois is giving nine thousand dollars in cash 1028 01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:43.479 to help migrants there. Illegal aliens there afford rent and you know, furnishings 1029 01:22:43.479 --> 01:22:46.960 and things for for for their needs, whatever their needs are. They they're 1030 01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:53.760 giving them cash. There's lots of different benefits that illegal aliens can qualify for. 1031 01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:58.640 Now, it's tougher to get federal monies, but if you have a 1032 01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:03.279 US born child, then that child allows the household to receive tax payer income. 1033 01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:06.840 So there's a lot of different ways. And even just policing cost, 1034 01:23:08.720 --> 01:23:12.880 first responder costs, road maintenance, all of these costs are increased when you 1035 01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:18.520 have increasing population. And argument population right now is increasing more so from illegal 1036 01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:23.039 than legal immigration. And that's the thing is people say, you know, 1037 01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:26.319 people who work illegally still pay taxes. Well, that's true to some extent. 1038 01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:30.239 They do property taxes or taxes on cigarettes if they buy cigarettes, or 1039 01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:36.039 alcohol or food sales tax. But they're not paying in more than they are 1040 01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:40.800 getting in services. And that's that's the other side of the argument that doesn't, 1041 01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.319 you know, come out when we talk about what they're paying in. 1042 01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:45.880 They are paying in, but they're getting a whole lot more out. You 1043 01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:49.199 know. A few days ago, I'm watching I try to watch everything simultaneously, 1044 01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:54.399 CBS News in the morning, and Gail King, who's one of the 1045 01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:59.199 co anchors of the CBS Morning News, actually said to a to a so 1046 01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:03.920 called expert guests, are the cartels making any money from this? And I'm 1047 01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:09.439 thinking, I'm thinking, Gail King, Hello, Earth the King, Are 1048 01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:13.880 you with me on this thing? Are they hey? Are the cartels making 1049 01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:16.800 any money on this thing? Can you answer that question for Gail King? 1050 01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:23.600 Well, they're making a fortune. This is very profitable for them. And 1051 01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:27.319 what makes it so profitable is they don't have to put up a lot of 1052 01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:30.880 costs because they don't have to now find ways to get people in undetected. 1053 01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:33.920 They just get them to the border and they turn them over to the United 1054 01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:40.079 States government who then releases them into the interior. And so you take away 1055 01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:43.560 some of the costs, right, They don't have to go through the desert, 1056 01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.800 they don't have to have all these extensive networks. They just funnel people 1057 01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:49.520 to ports of entry and our government does the rest for them, and in 1058 01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:56.439 effect, our government is completing the smuggling and trafficking process for the cartels. 1059 01:24:56.840 --> 01:25:00.000 Explain that, Please explain that to Gail King and others. You're a simple 1060 01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:02.920 saying, well, all they want is a hot meal in a warm place 1061 01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:08.239 to sleep. That's all they're after. Are the cartels making any money they 1062 01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:14.880 explain to me how the American taxpayer the government is completing the human trafficking part 1063 01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:19.119 of this. Well, the BIDE administration and everyone is fully aware of what's 1064 01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:24.600 going on. And we may have seen stories where the cartels are giving people 1065 01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:28.520 braces, right, it's like waiting to get into Disneyland or you know someplace 1066 01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:31.079 where you know there's a line, and they're making sure that everyone has paid 1067 01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:35.520 number one, and they have an orderly process. Right, they have control 1068 01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:40.600 of the southern border, and our government knows that they see we look across 1069 01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:43.399 the border, we see exactly what's going on. We know who's doing the 1070 01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:48.079 smuggling, and we know who's getting paid. And yet we're incentive butted, 1071 01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:53.159 right, and so you know a lot there's NGOs, you know, non 1072 01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:57.239 government organizations who are down up the border as well. And the BIDE administration 1073 01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.079 is saying, well, business, private organizations who are are housing these people 1074 01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:03.600 at the border and then busting them up. But they're doing that because with 1075 01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:06.960 taxpayer money as well. And so that's another way around that. Well, 1076 01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:11.800 it's not actually the government doing well, it's the taxpayers paying these ngo to 1077 01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:14.840 do what the government is asking them to do. And so it's more than 1078 01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:17.880 just what the Border Patrol and DHS is doing. It's all of the money 1079 01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:23.239 that's going to these private so called private organizations to help this flow. And 1080 01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:26.560 you know, the cartails get him to the border, and the federal government 1081 01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:30.439 does the rest and they oftentimes ask them where would you like to go? 1082 01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:34.039 And they facilitate their journey into the interior. And then you know, Governor 1083 01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:39.439 Abbott and DeSantis and others have gotten a lot of criticism from the White House 1084 01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:43.239 and Democratic mayors, but that's a small drop in the bucket when it comes 1085 01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:45.960 to the flow, and most of them are going either on their own or 1086 01:26:47.159 --> 01:26:50.920 because the federal government is helping them to get to their final destination. And 1087 01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:54.880 according to the video that I see on all the news shows, it has 1088 01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:59.479 to deal with young, unattached males. Every now and then you'll see big 1089 01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:02.279 family. Let's face it, right now, the families that are being separated 1090 01:27:02.319 --> 01:27:06.680 by the Biden administration are of a factor six or seven more than happen under 1091 01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:12.640 Trump. But because it's Biden and he's separating families, it's not a news 1092 01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:15.399 story anymore. When Trump did it, it was a big news story. 1093 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:19.880 But what is the dangers when you have large numbers of unattached males between the 1094 01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:26.279 ages of say sixteen and thirty coming into a country with no educational skills. 1095 01:27:26.439 --> 01:27:30.199 You don't fit into the country culturally. You have nowhere to sleep, nowhere 1096 01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:33.920 to go. What are millions and millions of unattached males tend to do that 1097 01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:39.319 we don't like. Well, the thing is most people and you know he 1098 01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:42.840 pointed this out, and the Bide administration makes this argument that well, most 1099 01:27:42.920 --> 01:27:45.439 most of them are coming here for work. Well that's true, that doesn't 1100 01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:47.479 mean all of them are. And if you want to come in here to 1101 01:27:47.479 --> 01:27:50.039 create trouble, you can get in just as easily as those who want to 1102 01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:54.199 come in to work. And you know, no one who comes into the 1103 01:27:54.279 --> 01:27:58.319 United States I legally should be employed. That's a huge magnet. But the 1104 01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:02.680 issue is one of the issues is there's more people coming in there are jobs 1105 01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:06.319 available for them, And you're right, we're bringing people in. And the 1106 01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:12.279 argument is while they're economic migrants, right, they're pretending you repudees. But 1107 01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:15.279 they're here because there's jobs an Americans won't do. But there's not jobs for 1108 01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:19.000 all of these people. And you're right, what happens to millions of young 1109 01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:24.680 men who don't have work, who don't have any real prospects. The outcome 1110 01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:27.760 is not going to be good. We see that whether you're US born or 1111 01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:30.640 farm if you're a young man and you don't have a job and you really 1112 01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:34.039 don't have any means, the likelihood that you're going to do something which is 1113 01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:40.560 non society's best interest is greatly heightened. Well, the other issue is all 1114 01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:44.840 of us know when you watch Joe Biden stumble around, he's not reading the 1115 01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:48.800 Presidential Daily Briefing. He's not the guy looking at all the position papers, 1116 01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:54.520 ABC, D and E. How do we do this? The leftist progressives 1117 01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:58.920 in the executive branch of government, the Valerie Jarrett's to Susan Rice's, they're 1118 01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:01.960 the ones running the government. It's not even close to being Joe Biden. 1119 01:29:02.279 --> 01:29:09.920 And so when they look even as leftists, even as committed leftist Marxist revolutionary 1120 01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:14.880 progressives, a few thousand that run the federal branch of government in their minds, 1121 01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:18.680 Eric rew Ark of Numbers USA, can you jump into their head and 1122 01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:23.720 explain to me the argument as to why this is positive for our country? 1123 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:28.680 With three hundred and fifty million people already that need services and need benefits. 1124 01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:33.560 Can you explain from a Marxist perspective why this is desirable? Well, there's 1125 01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:38.880 nothing positive about it, and certainly I really can't explain you from a Marxist 1126 01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:43.960 suspective, not being one. But I can tell you this the obamadministration and 1127 01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:46.960 these are many of the same people who were in the Biden administration and who 1128 01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:53.600 did push for similar policies. Now, the difference back then was you had 1129 01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:57.079 the so called adults in the room who stopped it, you know, the 1130 01:29:57.159 --> 01:30:02.319 worst inclinations for these policies, but also so realized at the very least politically 1131 01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:05.359 it was a disaster. Now we'd like to think that they, you know, 1132 01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:11.439 the Axelrods and the Emmanuals, did have some concern for the effects of 1133 01:30:11.439 --> 01:30:14.760 these sorts of policies on the American people. But what we can say is 1134 01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:17.880 that the Biden administration, people who are running the Biden administration and certainly the 1135 01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:24.600 immigration policy, have no concern whatsoever. Secretary of Many Works is the American 1136 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:28.279 people aren't even on his list of concerns, right, And so that's the 1137 01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:31.479 real problem is they don't see immigration the consequences of immigration party what they what 1138 01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:36.640 they are for the US citizenry's that doesn't affect their decision making. It's how 1139 01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:41.159 do we get as many foreig nationals into the United States as possible, as 1140 01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:45.199 quickly as possible. And there's no one putting a check on that. Certainly, 1141 01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:49.079 President Biden, whatever hit level of awareness is, he's certainly not doing 1142 01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:53.840 anything to stem it. No. In fact, when I read the speeches 1143 01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:59.560 of Barack Hussain Obama and five six, seven eight, they sound like Donald 1144 01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:02.960 Trump or you or me right now. But something's fundamentally changed and it's not 1145 01:31:03.079 --> 01:31:08.880 good. And I would encourage the Republicans in these so called negotiations to get 1146 01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:13.079 a steel backbone and actually stand up for something, and that is to make 1147 01:31:13.119 --> 01:31:15.880 sure the southern border is shut down until we get a handle on this, 1148 01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:21.239 which is unlikely. But once again, great information numbers USA. Eric grew 1149 01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:25.560 Ark, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. 1150 01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:29.479 And I hope in a few months they have a great resolution that the National 1151 01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:33.439 Guard is at the southern border. There's thousands of extra judges to hear these 1152 01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:39.199 cases. Suddenly the southern border is shut down. The cartels have lost billions 1153 01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:43.279 of dollars in funding. Girls are not raped and boys are not killed, 1154 01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:48.159 and gangs are not prowling about major cities paying off their debt to the cartel. 1155 01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:53.319 And we have a presidency that functions. Eric grew Ark, once again, 1156 01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:56.960 you're a great American, and thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham 1157 01:31:56.960 --> 01:32:00.479 Show. Thank you, Eric, Thank you, Bill, God bless you. 1158 01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:03.279 All Right, let's continue with more. That's numbers USA, Numbers USA, 1159 01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:08.359 lots of facts and figures. We have to almost deprogram again our college 1160 01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:12.520 kids to let them recognize reality, which is going to be difficult. Bill 1161 01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:20.640 Cunningham with you every Sunday night, Billy Cunningham, the Great American, Eric 1162 01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:26.159 Rewark with NumbersUSA dot com, go to the website. The Great American has 1163 01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:30.079 told you, and I think you believe, we cannot as a nation survive 1164 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:36.239 with a thirty four trillion dollar national debt that increases two trillion dollars every year. 1165 01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:41.680 It is simply impossible. In fact, today we borrowed, this is 1166 01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:45.960 a Sunday, we borrowed about six billion dollars of brand new money. The 1167 01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:53.920 printing presses and the borrowing has got to stop. The second thing is unbridled 1168 01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:59.560 immigration. If the Democrat wins the White House in this November, whether it's 1169 01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:03.279 Michelle Obamaevin Newsom, God forbid, Joe Biden, or Kamala Harris, and 1170 01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:09.119 they continue the same policies of emitting this country tens of millions of illegals whose 1171 01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:12.520 skills are not needed, who educational, working, not up to snuff, 1172 01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:17.399 and are largely unattached single mals. This country cannot long survive five ten years 1173 01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:23.039 of this and we're done, and we can't have that. That's not the 1174 01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:27.079 United States of America. Let's continue with more Kent Heck and Lively is next. 1175 01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:30.800 He's written a book on the Dei scam, which resulted in doctor Clyding 1176 01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:34.560 Gay getting her gag. Bill Cunning in The Great American with you every Sunday 1177 01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:46.520 night, Bill cunning in the Great American, of course, having watched the 1178 01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:50.119 last several days, in fact, the last several weeks, the results of 1179 01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:55.560 doctor Clyding Gay and what's happening at Harvard, which is damaging the branch all 1180 01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:59.319 we say, it makes it sound like Tyland, all about twenty five years 1181 01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:03.119 ago, but all recovered magnificently. I'm not sure Harvard will also watching some 1182 01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:06.800 of the commentary this morning on the morning talk shows. It appears that we 1183 01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:14.960 Americans have a problem with powerful black women, and this commentator said that doctor 1184 01:34:15.439 --> 01:34:20.000 Clydine Gay fitted nicely with the attacks on Kamala Harris, our vice president. 1185 01:34:20.359 --> 01:34:25.199 And also just as Cantanji Jackson, who doesn't know what a woman is, 1186 01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:30.199 that whenever a black woman arises the power that America has to find dirt on 1187 01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:32.520 them, as if it doesn't apply to Donald Trump. But nonetheless joining you 1188 01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:38.720 and I now is Kent Heck and Lively, author of Diversity con Secrets and 1189 01:34:38.800 --> 01:34:43.119 Lives Behind the Shady DEI Industry. And ken Heck and Lively, I think 1190 01:34:43.119 --> 01:34:47.119 it'd be useful for the American people to first hear about your own personal history 1191 01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:53.640 before we talk about the diversity con in which Al Sharpton and others has monetized 1192 01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:57.960 racism. So tell the American people a little bit about your bio. Yeah. 1193 01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:01.680 So I'm an attorney. I'm a science teacher as well, and I've 1194 01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:09.119 published fifteen books for that have been national bestsellers. I'm best known for the 1195 01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:15.920 Plagued series with doctor gd Mikavitz, and I've also published four books with Project 1196 01:35:16.039 --> 01:35:20.760 Veritas whistleblowers, and I've written the book Presidential Takedown, which was about the 1197 01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:27.560 COVID nineteen task Force that was co authored with doctor Paul Alexander, who was 1198 01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:33.359 the senior Advisor to the pandemic advisor to the COVID nineteen task Force. Having 1199 01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:38.760 heard your story, Ken Heck and Lively, I like you to comment about 1200 01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:43.880 how much money's involved in DEI. How much money's involved because about ten fifteen, 1201 01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:46.199 twenty years ago, I thought discrimination was something, shall we say, 1202 01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:49.920 that was going out the door in America at least, but there was too 1203 01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:55.520 much money at stake. So explain what happened ten or fifteen years ago. 1204 01:35:55.600 --> 01:36:00.520 They gave birth to the Dei Dei experiences we have today. One of the 1205 01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:04.199 really interesting things that we discovered in putting our book The Diversity con together, 1206 01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:14.720 is that there is an industry which is engaged in causing chaos. And the 1207 01:36:15.319 --> 01:36:20.199 villain of this piece is the Tides Foundation out of San Francisco. Now, 1208 01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:26.560 the Tides Foundation was founded in the late nineteen seventies by a left wing activist 1209 01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:31.680 and it's got a really interesting financial set, financial and legal setup. What 1210 01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:38.000 it does is Let's say you're a billionaire and you say, okay, Tide 1211 01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.359 Foundation, I want to invest ten million dollars with you. You're going to 1212 01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:45.119 put it into some funds, I'm going to get a rate to return for 1213 01:36:45.159 --> 01:36:47.159 a couple of years, starting to get a nice rate to return and everything. 1214 01:36:47.279 --> 01:36:53.079 So it's functioning started like an investment vehicle. But then what you can 1215 01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:57.359 do is you can say, hey, Tides Foundation, why don't you take 1216 01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:02.640 three million dollars of my investment and give it to Black Lives Matter. So 1217 01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:06.399 the money doesn't come from you, the billionaire, it comes from the Tides 1218 01:37:06.479 --> 01:37:12.279 Foundation. Now how big is the Tides Foundation. Well, in twenty twenty 1219 01:37:12.920 --> 01:37:18.760 they gave out over six hundred million dollars in grands, so they've got an 1220 01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:25.720 enorm Yeah, they they've six six hundred and seven I think it was exact 1221 01:37:25.800 --> 01:37:30.119 number that they gave. And so what you see as this interlocking network of 1222 01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:34.960 foundations. And so when we look at, okay, who's putting money into 1223 01:37:35.079 --> 01:37:39.960 the Tides Foundation, Well, it's all the regular players, the Bill and 1224 01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:45.560 Melinda Gates Foundation, George Soros, Open Society, Rockefeller, Carnegie Endowment, 1225 01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:54.439 Johnson Foundation. So you've got this really weird legal structure, which is you 1226 01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:57.640 can be a rich person and you can park a bunch of money there, 1227 01:37:58.279 --> 01:38:01.159 and you know you can draw a good rate to return because they've got investment 1228 01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:06.840 vehicles for you. And then it's not this political arm and you know you 1229 01:38:08.119 --> 01:38:13.560 are not tied to the organization that gets the money, so you can say, 1230 01:38:13.640 --> 01:38:15.359 ah, I put some money in the Tites Foundation. Then they do 1231 01:38:15.479 --> 01:38:20.560 these things. And so all of this appears to be legal, but you 1232 01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:27.960 know, for my estimation, it's highly unethical and violates the spirit, if 1233 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:32.199 not the law of they're what they're supposed to be doing under the law. 1234 01:38:32.239 --> 01:38:36.800 And ken what is the motivation? Because George Soros, in this loosely organized 1235 01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:42.319 group of billionaires, it looks to me like they're having the impact of destroying 1236 01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:45.359 large parts of our American society. Is that their goal? Do they want 1237 01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:50.439 to like take down public education, take down police departments, open southern border? 1238 01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:57.319 What's what's the purpose? What's the goal in giving these six hundred million 1239 01:38:57.439 --> 01:39:02.039 dollars in one year to left wing ces causes by one Tides Foundation plus many 1240 01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:04.680 other A lot of moneys at stake here, But what is their goal? 1241 01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:09.760 What do they want out of this money. Well, that was the real 1242 01:39:09.960 --> 01:39:13.720 question that we had in our book, because we had David Johnson go undercover 1243 01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:17.000 many of these trainings, and what he came away with was that many of 1244 01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:23.680 the trainings are Marxist in nature. And you know, you'll even have Patris 1245 01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:28.439 Quaars from Black Lives Matter say that she's trained Marxist. And so we were 1246 01:39:28.479 --> 01:39:33.239 confronted with a question of why are these billionaires giving money to Marxist organizations. 1247 01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:41.000 You know, history teaches us there's no money in Marxism, right, but 1248 01:39:41.199 --> 01:39:48.600 there's money in monopoly. And so if you can use Marxists Marxist tactics to 1249 01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:55.600 destroy local communities and you get people, you know, giving all their money 1250 01:39:55.600 --> 01:40:00.359 to Amazon, giving their money to Target instead of the local, uh, 1251 01:40:00.640 --> 01:40:04.800 local stores, you have an enormous transfer of wealth from the middle class. 1252 01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:11.319 As we saw during the COVID crisis, we had four trillion dollars move from 1253 01:40:11.399 --> 01:40:15.159 the middle class to the billionaire class. So I really think that this is 1254 01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:20.159 this is an old game, you know, because the robber barons of the 1255 01:40:20.239 --> 01:40:28.439 nineteenth century wanted you living in company housing, working for the company, buy 1256 01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:33.479 in from the company's store. That's the model, and they're just using Marxism 1257 01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:45.159 and racism to make to destroy vibrant local communities, to destroy destroy vibrant relationships 1258 01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:50.439 between people of different backgrounds, you know. And and what happens when we 1259 01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:56.760 don't feel good in our community, Well, we have to attach ourselves to 1260 01:40:56.880 --> 01:41:01.600 something. So we're just plugged into you know, our Netflix are Amazon, 1261 01:41:03.039 --> 01:41:09.960 and we're not engaging with other human beings. So many times Kent Heck and 1262 01:41:09.960 --> 01:41:14.720 Lively, author of the book Diversity con what this is is like investment in 1263 01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:17.359 the future to take away mom and pop stores, to have more and more 1264 01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:23.159 Americans poorly or not educated whatsoever, to break down law and order so that 1265 01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:27.279 more and more people live in the company town on the company check, getting 1266 01:41:27.319 --> 01:41:31.239 company food, which is government getting company vouchers and living the company life and 1267 01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:38.039 getting rid of entrepreneurism. And I would assume religion also because religion is again 1268 01:41:38.079 --> 01:41:43.239 a speed bump on the way to what the billionaire class wants from the Tides 1269 01:41:43.279 --> 01:41:46.159 Foundation, et cetera. And for those who are optimistic, having you spent 1270 01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:51.039 so much written so much in the subject matter, I've read that essentially that 1271 01:41:51.159 --> 01:41:55.800 and in three or four or five years things will be back to normal with 1272 01:41:55.920 --> 01:42:00.720 Harvard and clouding Gay, she got her million dollar Golden Parish out the door. 1273 01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:04.000 She's written at least two editorials for The Wall Street Journal New York Times 1274 01:42:04.039 --> 01:42:10.359 talking about how she's a victim of racism, which appears to be completely ridiculous. 1275 01:42:10.640 --> 01:42:13.560 She's a victim of her own plagiarism, and a victim of her own 1276 01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:16.479 lies, and the victim of the fact she's not qualified to be the president 1277 01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:20.920 of any large organization based upon her history. But do you think after this 1278 01:42:21.039 --> 01:42:26.920 episode with Claudine Gay, that the DEI industry, which is now surrounding her 1279 01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:30.279 and protecting her, is going to learn the lesson of the lies and the 1280 01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:34.640 plagiarism, or it's simply a speed bump on its way to more government control. 1281 01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:41.279 Here's what I think. I think we can expect a lot of scalps 1282 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:45.239 to be taken in twenty twenty four. And this is not about vengeance, 1283 01:42:45.479 --> 01:42:51.359 It's about competence. Now, let's think about who's being hurt by this DEI 1284 01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:59.319 agenda. There's some Indian kid who's in a senior in high school right now, 1285 01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:03.840 who's got a great GPA, perfect scores. He's done a whole bunch 1286 01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:10.520 of extracurricular activities. He's going to apply to Harvard and because he's Asian, 1287 01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:14.880 they're going to knock two hundred points off of his application and he's not going 1288 01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:18.239 to get in. Okay, that hurts him. Who else is being hurt? 1289 01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:26.720 There are really good academics in our universities who have done the job the 1290 01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:30.439 right way. You know, Let's say it's a middle aged white guy who's 1291 01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:35.119 got all these publications and who is committed to fairness. Well, he's never 1292 01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:41.079 going to be looked at. And so what we need to do is we 1293 01:43:41.199 --> 01:43:44.800 need to use the power of social media, because we know the mainstream media 1294 01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:49.239 doesn't doesn't care about this stuff. They're all left wing. But social media 1295 01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:54.319 has this amazing power. And so what we need to do is we need 1296 01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:58.760 to drag these people out into the light. I mean, Elsie Stephanick questioned 1297 01:43:59.319 --> 01:44:08.319 plawting nineteen different times to condemn anti Semitism. You know, the plumber down 1298 01:44:08.439 --> 01:44:13.239 the street only needs to be asked that question once to know the right answer. 1299 01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:15.800 So what we need to do is we need to bring these people out 1300 01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:21.079 of the light because the only way they maintain their position is with the public 1301 01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:27.159 support. So if they are having these crazy ideas. You know, it 1302 01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:31.439 is time for us to rise up, demand accountability. And you know, 1303 01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:35.880 I don't care if they're liberal, just don't say stupid things like clotting gay 1304 01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:41.840 did and Judge Justice Keatanji Jackson. I mean not knowing what a woman is. 1305 01:44:41.920 --> 01:44:45.000 You know, ninety eight percent of drunk ninety eight percent of drunk college 1306 01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:49.600 freshmen can identify a woman. Okay, So all I'm saying, yeah, 1307 01:44:49.640 --> 01:44:55.439 And all I'm saying is that we're in trouble because unless Harvard, the DEI 1308 01:44:55.520 --> 01:45:00.119 crowd, which is a multi billion dollar business business is good business. When 1309 01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:05.000 I see Reverend Al Sharpton, who is a tax cheat, out in front 1310 01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:11.359 of Bill Aikman's offices, protesting because he wants to express thoughts as a billionaire 1311 01:45:11.399 --> 01:45:15.199 as a Harvard graduate, and somehow, you know, DEI is not the 1312 01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:19.439 way to go because that is race discrimination, and that Al Sharpton, tongue 1313 01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:27.239 in cheek, is protesting the free speech rights of a multi billionaire giving lots 1314 01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:30.640 of bucks to Harvard, and he kind of wink wink, nod nod, 1315 01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:32.960 And a few of the persons with them were interviewed a couple of days ago 1316 01:45:33.279 --> 01:45:36.920 and they had no idea what they were protesting or who this bill character is. 1317 01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:41.720 They have no clue what's going on, and they keep the game alive 1318 01:45:42.199 --> 01:45:46.920 because the racial game pays lots of money. We're talking billions and billions of 1319 01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:54.840 dollars. Do you see work of yours and others kind of changing the drift 1320 01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:59.079 of this huge rocket ship to nowhere? Or do you think it is too 1321 01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:03.119 much? Has already had happen with DEI and the college's, university's corporate America 1322 01:46:03.239 --> 01:46:06.760 government that there's nothing we can do to stop it at this point, sit 1323 01:46:06.840 --> 01:46:11.520 back and watch America be destroyed from within. I'll ask you this, Ken 1324 01:46:11.800 --> 01:46:15.199 Heck and Lively. Do you have hope or do you not have hope? 1325 01:46:15.479 --> 01:46:19.439 I have incredible hope. Look, we're just a couple of days into twenty 1326 01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:24.479 twenty four and we took out the president of Harvard. This is great. 1327 01:46:24.920 --> 01:46:29.399 I think that we've got a lot of Dad energy coming back into the system. 1328 01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:33.199 You know, use ridicule and contempt of these people and have fun with 1329 01:46:33.319 --> 01:46:39.880 this fight. This is just this is a wonderful fight, and we're going 1330 01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:44.760 to win it because all we have to do is talk and you know, 1331 01:46:45.199 --> 01:46:48.319 prap jokes about you know, not being able to identify a woman. I 1332 01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:55.880 mean, I'm sorry, you know, if human beings couldn't figure out what 1333 01:46:56.000 --> 01:47:00.680 women were, I doubt that we would have survived as a species. But 1334 01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:05.000 it's the correct answer because when justice can Tenji Kintanji Jackson said, I don't 1335 01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:09.560 know what a woman is. It was so absurd. But once again, 1336 01:47:09.600 --> 01:47:12.840 when I read the literature this going back about a year or so of this 1337 01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:17.399 appointment, those who call her in the question are the ones being attacked. 1338 01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:21.880 And so it's going to be sync to Bismarck in twenty twenty four to bring 1339 01:47:21.960 --> 01:47:27.479 down Donald Trump because they've thrown everything at him and it hasn't worked yet. 1340 01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:31.199 And he's the only president we've ever had that had grandchildren who were Jewish, 1341 01:47:31.399 --> 01:47:35.560 and they keep coming after Trump by different ways, hoping something works. I'll 1342 01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:40.039 ask you this, Ken, I love your optimism. I'm not as optimistic 1343 01:47:40.079 --> 01:47:45.199 as you are about colleges and universities turning back to moderate approaches in corporate America 1344 01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:50.840 and government and the southern border. What happens if the interchangeable drill bit in 1345 01:47:51.279 --> 01:47:57.039 this November wins and we have four to eight more years of the policies of 1346 01:47:57.159 --> 01:48:00.520 Joe Biden on the southern border in the major cities six hundred million dollars a 1347 01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:05.439 year out of the Tides Foundation. Well, what if you're incorrect and America 1348 01:48:05.479 --> 01:48:09.760 stays in this course for another, say ten years, what do we look 1349 01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:15.760 like? Then? I run away to Argentina. Costa Rica is what I 1350 01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:20.399 say, Costria. I mean, I don't know where we're headed because we 1351 01:48:20.479 --> 01:48:28.640 can't continue opposing discrimination by using it, and the entire civil rights crowd doesn't 1352 01:48:28.680 --> 01:48:32.880 have a purpose to exist. Their philosophies control the university's Hollywood, New York. 1353 01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:39.199 They control government and every city government. Every mayor's a left wing activist 1354 01:48:39.279 --> 01:48:45.760 Democrat. And if that continues unbridled the next five to ten years, I 1355 01:48:45.800 --> 01:48:50.279 think we're in real trouble. Look if they start carrying down statues of Martin 1356 01:48:50.319 --> 01:48:54.359 Luther King Jr. Which is what they're going to have to do, because 1357 01:48:54.399 --> 01:48:59.920 his philosophy was that you judge somebody based on their character and their accomplishments, 1358 01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:04.319 then I'll tell you it's time to run. But until that happens, I 1359 01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:11.439 think stay and fight and be cheerful, and we're gonna win this thing because 1360 01:49:11.840 --> 01:49:16.039 the absurdity is so clear. I mean, look, you got three university 1361 01:49:16.079 --> 01:49:20.680 presidents appere just a couple of weeks ago before Congress. Two of them are 1362 01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:26.399 gone now, and I think Mit is probably the president. Mit who's still 1363 01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:30.119 there is probably next on the chopping block. So you know, probably by 1364 01:49:30.119 --> 01:49:33.760 the end of January, she will either had her wings clipped or she will 1365 01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:39.840 be gone as well. Lastly, I would say that doctor Clauding Gay got 1366 01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:44.479 the one million dollar parachute. Kamala Harris is in charge of the Southern Border 1367 01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:47.760 and she's terrible, and Justice Jackson doesn't know what a woman is when she's 1368 01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:51.119 a woman, I assume. And as a consequence, those are criticisms of 1369 01:49:51.159 --> 01:49:56.880 their behavior, not criticisms of their race or gender. Once again, ken 1370 01:49:56.920 --> 01:50:00.319 Heck and Lively, the book is diversity con and it is a Secrets and 1371 01:50:00.359 --> 01:50:04.800 Lies behind the shady DII industry. Kent, Heck and Lively once again raise 1372 01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:09.239 Zips a locuitor. Thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Let's 1373 01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:12.600 keep the lines of communication open, and once again, thank you very much. 1374 01:50:13.720 --> 01:50:16.960 Thanks joh all right, let's continue with more and if a line becomes 1375 01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:21.000 available at eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, Bill cunning 1376 01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:24.560 and the Great American with you every Sunday night.