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Welcome to Buns and Banter, a
podcast buy work Busties for work Busties.

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Hey, I'm Lauren and I'm Ali. We're both morning show hosts for iHeart

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Media. We're both millennials, and
we're both trying to figure out how to

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build the LICs. We dream about
dating, marriage, career, career,

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and being a mom, how to
get through a week without crying. Welcome

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to Buns and Banter. We're glad
you're here. Yeah, my torso is

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so long. It's so long,
like any kind of romper or anything.

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It's just like it's a shot in
the dark because it's Yeah, I just

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don't so. I hate this.
But I have gotten to the point where

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like I have to try everything on
in the store and tall ladies, or

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I'm just like buying everything online and
returning, which I suck at. I

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have clothes that I literally have never
worn that are past the point of returning

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at this point. Yeah right,
yeah, Oh, I hate that.

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I know you're just like staring at
wasted money and my mom is like,

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my mom gives me grief about it. But it is the reality of the

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situation. It's just who I am. I'm trying to be better about that.

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Oh my god, real, not
it in it good? I miss

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this. I know, I go. It's sad when you posted on your

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Instagram story the other day about the
person who greg is Buns and Banter over

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and I was like, oh my
god, has it been that long.

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It's just so we had Birthday Bash, multiple summer promotions. We were working

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on different time off. You had
that wedding finally in New York. Yeah,

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just it was absolutely insane. I
don't even feel like I've seen that

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much of you just in the office
randomly because we've been like shut in our

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studios doing a billion things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's now

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that Birthday Bash is over and that
wedding the weekend before Birthday Bash, Like

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those were my two big things for
like the entering into summer, and now

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I have a couple big things like
at the end of the summer. But

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I feel like I'm just like coasting
right now, like I'm in a little

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bit of vacation mode. I've been
drinking a lot, Like I want to

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go out and get a cocktail like
on a Wednesday, And then I already

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texted you earlier. Yeah, It's
like, so what like maybe after the

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podcast today, what are we thinking? Oh, but it like destroys your

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sleep schedule. Yeah, it really
does. So I am suffering. I'm

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suffering, God, So I'm having
you carry it so well? Oh thank

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you. If I had like a
palm leaf that I could fan you with.

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Yeah, And honestly, I would
say, it's the melatonin that's getting

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me through. But I'm going to
bed at like eleven o'clock because I'm just

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like that it is late for you. I want to see people, and

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I have a friend in town,
or like I've been out on a couple

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of dates, or I know nothing
to report as of yet, but we'll

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see. Yeah, we'll see.
So, speaking of suffering, can we

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just really quick of suffering, recap
the insane week with this wildfire smoke?

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Because I don't There are people in
the world with serious problems. I get

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it, environmental poverty, food insecurity, but honest to God, this week

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I've been like, I just don't
know. Fucking have you scaled one to

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ten? How did you feel you
were affected? Like here in West Michigan,

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because our air quality has never been
this bad. If people weren't aware,

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like the Canadian wildfires in Quebec finally
had their like smoke come down here

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and it is so bad this week. Yes, I feel like I have

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been affected, but also I haven't
really Like I said, I haven't been

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sleeping my normal sleep schedule. Could
you it's been so smoky. I've been

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having a couple of drinks during the
week, which I which I don't normally

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do. We can't go outside.
Keep them coming. I will find rationalizations

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for anything and everything, yes,
but usually those are reasons. Sleep deprivation

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and alcohol are usually reasons I'm affected
in my chest and like in my field,

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especially when you wake up in the
morning, and like we are on

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the air, so we have to
sound good like right when we get up.

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So I've just been noticing, like, is it the wildfires or is

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it my boozin and party in neither
of which we're going to judge on this.

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It's the wildfires, right, because
I had the funniest thing happened,

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right, I was very proud of
the sun. I'm raising because my five

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year old we have a call every
morning when I get off the air,

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and he was like, he always
asks, how's your damn mom in the

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summer because he's not in school.
Right, And I had like the most

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ridiculous email situation this week. My
email completely crashed. I went a whole

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day without working email, which is
you know, it is lucky, right,

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but I'm like hosting at a different
station this week, so it's horrendous,

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like China, schedule interviews, trying
to do all these things right,

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which the running joke is whenever Lauren
is so low hosting on wood, there's

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always something catastrophic in the world happening, like everything give me going fine,

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and then all of a sudden,
like wildfires, You're oh my god,

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the wildfires, your email crashes,
Russia invades Ukraine, like just catastrophic,

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huge world events, and it's like
not what you want as the fill in,

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Like you just want to coast as
the fill in kind of thank you,

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you know, just protecting the job
secure of the other host. Not

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thank you are host wonderful, because
you are. And if there were any

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person that I would choose for these
events for a fill in thank you,

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it would be you. But I
do feel like you have not had a

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fair shake. It ain't bad luck. Sometimes like I'm talking to my son

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and I go, oh, it's
it's okay. I had a pretty tough

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day to day, Like mom's email
didn't work, so I couldn't really talk

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to anyone. We're not missing up, behagles, Oh these wildfires are hurting

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everything. It's like, as I, oh, honey, it was totally

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my fault for not changing my password, but the fact that you blamed it

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on the wildfires just goes to show
I am doing my job right. Yes,

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never our fault. Solidarity always an
outside issue. Yes, thank you.

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Oh that's adorable. Yeah, so
I've been using I've been very fatigued

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and using the wildfire smoke is it? Is it just a really good chance

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to reset that doing Well, how
are your kids doing, because like you

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can't go outside in this no,
and Will's okay. But as it turns

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out, the past probably three weeks
to a month, we've had like anti

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issues really with my two year old
daughter with sophia. So this was like

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really, yeah, it's it's a
whole thing that we're still working to like

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figure out. They don't think it's
asthma or anything, but this stuff has

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just wrecked her. But she also
loves being outside. Yeah, so it's

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the worst trying to keep kids cooped
when they don't understand. They're like,

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well I can still see some sunshine
and it's not raining. So and then

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they'll go outside, and so I
was like, who's cooking something? I'm

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like the forest, I think,
just so you know, so that's been

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that's been tough. Yeah, well
that's also is the smell, Like it's

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not a bad toxic smell. But
I'm reading these articles online. I just

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sent one to my brother in law
the other day as we were talking about

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this on the family group chat,
and my brother in law post a good

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question. He asked, what is
the difference between the wildfires and be exposed

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to like a bond fire for a
few hours at night? And I thought

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that was I had not thought of
that because it is the same in the

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articles that I read, it's the
same type of smoke, like it's literally

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just wood that is burning, right, Yes, But then I also read

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that the wildfire smoke is more toxic
than like car fumes, like car pollutants.

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Oh god, So I'm like,
huh. Someone said in like some

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of the southern areas like Byron Center
and over there, this is just what

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I heard. They could like actually
see like ash raining from this guy really

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ash, which I'm certain shouldn't be
going in your lungs. I'm not a

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doctor, but I have terrible lungs, so I would know. Yeah,

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a little bit insane. West Michigan
Grand Rapids specifically was the worst place in

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the US for air quality. Yesterday
was it? What was it? Wednesday?

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Tuesday? Tuesday? It was,
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like that, I mean all week, and like now i'm thinking about it.

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I'm like, like, we're inside
and I'm still feeling like, you

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know, yeah, I was doing
saying it was so bad. I'd not

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really looked at numbers before. When
you look at the index, yeah,

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and they're like, well, anything
over two hundred is pretty hazardous to even

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people outside of sensitive groups. And
that's like okay. At one point we

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were at like two seventy, and
then it was like three hundred hazardous for

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everyone. Don't step outdoors. I
have not, oh my god, I

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have not taken the dog for a
walk at all this week because I mean,

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it's so crazy. But I did
see people outside when I was driving

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home from work. People little exercising. Yeah, people are running, people

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are sitting outside having lunch. I'm
like, you people are nuts. Yeah,

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it really shaped for me exactly what
I would do in the event of

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an actual apocalypse, which was lay
on the couch. Yeah, I would

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just it is what it is.
Yeah, Jesus take the wheel. No,

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the second season of The Bear came
out. That's fine, take me.

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I've all set. But that sells
me at it. It's so good.

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Yeah, I've heard that. I
have not watched the second season yet.

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I haven't started it, but the
first season was phenomenal. Oh awesome.

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Yeah, I have a great binge
for you. It's on Amazon Prime

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and it's called The Lake. It
just dropped its second season. It's a

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comedy. It's really really good,
and they're like twenty eight to thirty two

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minute episodes and it's really really good. I've got so much stuff on my

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list right now. I got to
finish up ted Lasso. I still have

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like three or four episodes left in
the current season. I've got to finish

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up The Bear, The Lake.
I'm adding to my list now. I

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just this is what I gotta watch
shows before work when you're getting ready like

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I do. Honestly, I don't
leave myself enough time. I know it's

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so weird of me to do,
but It's the only way I get out

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of bed. Yeah, I wish
I had a morning routine like that.

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And my routine is just like wake
up in Panic. That's it really quick,

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really quick side tangent. If anybody
is interested in collaborating on T shirts

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with us, I feel like we
have so many great one miners wake up,

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want to wake up and panic T
shirt with buttons and pants are on

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the back. Oh yeah, getting
tough with us wake up in Panic morning

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routine to do wake up Panic,
it'd be so good. Me and a

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nutshell, Me and a nut jel. So this is something I'd been holding

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onto for weeks because we hadn't gotten
a pod yet. And I know I

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told you about it, and when
I brought it up to you, you

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knew exactly what I was talking about. I am dying to talk about this

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Brene Brown Interview. Yes, because
I also feel like the timing is perfect

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with how stressful summer can be.
Yeah, for parents especially. I guess

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That's where I'm coming from on this. So Brene Brown was recently on the

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Mel Robbins podcast and they were talking
about marriage and it was the most mind

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blowing thing she said. Everybody says
marriage is fifty fifty and it's the biggest

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bullshit out there. Marriage is not
fifty fifty. Marriage is whatever percentage you

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can bring to the table and then
working with your partner to make up for

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that, right, And she said, you know, she used examples like

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I might have a really hard day. I'll come home and tell my husband,

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hey, I've got twenty two percent
to give today, and he can

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look at me and say, got
your back. I'll grab the other seventy

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eight percent. She talked about how
her mom had been sick recently and she's

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like, those days were really hard. So I'll come home and have even

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less, like I barely have ten. He's usually like, great, I'll

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make up the ninety. And then
she said some days we both are coming

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at it and it's like I got
fifteen percent and my husband will go,

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well, I've got thirty percent,
And then we sit down and have a

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conversation about the grace we're going to
give each other the rest of that day

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because we're both just not going to
be at our bus right. And I

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was sitting there like light bulb in
my head going off. I've never heard

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it put that way, and it
made me feel so much better about my

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own marriage. Yeah, especially because
we were talking about at the beginning of

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the episode, June was a blur
insane. I mean between like Will finishing

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up school, figuring out summer camps, working a lot of the same events

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with you, a lot of our
clients, you know, geared up with

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really great summer stuff. But we
were out doing videos, interviews all that.

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I feel like I was getting home
and it was like, I've got

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five percent to give, I've got, you know, eight percent to give,

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right, and feeling really guilty about
that, which then just puts you

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in an even worse mood. Right, And I just thought that was such

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an incredible way to put it,
and it would be a tough conversation to

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have, but I think it's a
really good one to have a dating too.

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Yeah, I think definitely, what
do you do when you both come

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to the table with ten percent?
Right? What do you do when you

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just don't have that other ninety and
neither does your partner those conversation? What

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do those look like? And then
what are you doing like things you just

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don't what goes? Something's got to
give? Was something? Oh? Yeah,

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you remember the podcast you made me
cry on Yeah, it was the

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Shanda one where she's like, you
cannot have at all. That's not a

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thing. It's a really nasty lie
that makes people feel inadequate. Yeah,

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and that I think is has served
as a great reminder when serving social media

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or like looking at these women with
these high powered jobs and you know,

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I'm looking at them like they're succeeding
in their career and also succeeding at home

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and also succeeding in their health and
fitness. It seems like but you just,

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I think, have to believe,
or at least I have to believe.

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Not to be pessimistic or take anything
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have to believe that there are some
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And it's impossible. How do you
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me, the first thing that always
goes is working out. Oh yeah,

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like that's the first. I don't
say that or that would be mine too,

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but that's always it for me.
Like when I get busy with work

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or I get busy with work.
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I can't neglect the dog, although
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well, longer walks is something that
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are the two main things, like
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little bit of time outside with her
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two things where I'm like, Okay, those have to go this week or

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this month or this corner, which
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sometimes you're picking these back up after
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where did these go? Yeah,
oh yeah, the worst naps go for

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me? I know. Then then
it's like, oh, you know how

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I came home and said I was
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I'm also now a bitch when you'm
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up my nap because I feel like
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I didn't have what the kids yesterday, or I needed to like check in

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on Chris and how his day was
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all of the posts I should have
gotten done this morning at work but didn't,

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fire breathing piece of shit, you
know. I mean, not trying to

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negative self talk, but something I've
had to recognize her I'm like, oh,

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maybe that's not what goes Yeah,
yeah, no, I cannot give

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up sleep or naps. I shouldn't, but it's a tough task. I

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mean, you nailed it with that
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then what do you give up to
fix that? I haven't figured it out.

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I wonder what life is like as
Brine Brown, Like if I could

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spend a day as her and just
have access to everything on top because she's

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just a wealth. She's a wealth
and she's got I feel like the anthropological

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experience and research. Well, she's
studied people for so long, Like how

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long has she been studying shame and
grief? Like twenty years? It feels

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like multiple books. Yeah, and
she just always has really insightful comments like

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information to share, and like the
same with moult Robbins too, she's got

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some good advice. They're so articulate. I'm like, I would never have

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been able to put those words and
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my head, but that's exactly what
it feels like. Yeah, and they're

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very much I feel like the narrative
of like overnight success, but they've actually

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been grinding and trying to make things
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It does, doesn't it? Yes, it does, Like there's still time

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far more validating. Yeah, because
the memes don't always work where it's like

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Picasso didn't pay until it was fifty. I'm like, but that doesn't help

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me. Yeah, I'm not doing
anything revolutionary. I'm just trying to be

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a good, contributing citizen that can
pay my bills. Yeah. Is that

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too much as No? No,
But how soon is too soon to have

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that conversation about like where what you're
coming to the table with, Like I'm

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coming with ten percent or I'm coming
with twenty percent, or like I've got

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seventy percent today, I've got one
hundred percent today, Like what do you

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have? How soon is too soon
to have that conversation with someone you're dating.

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No, I don't know, because
you and Kurds have been married for

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it'll be eight years in August.
And is this something that you guys are

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doing currently or something you plan on
doing? Not really, I mean we're

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doing it in the fact that I
don't voice it correctly. I just come

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home and I'm like, I'm exhausted. I don't have it today, So

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we have room to work on it. Okay, well, at least you're

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communicating. Yes, we call it
that that there's unications there. Just work

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on the style. I would say
in dating, I think it could be

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as early as like six months,
six months that nut is that too late

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if they make it. These guys
out here are not even making it six

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days. I mean, I think
it should be soon or I'm just I

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guess I'm looking at it from a
male perspective, and it's like, you

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know, how long it takes them
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you know, you know, yeah, you know, I definitely have been

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in worse spots psychologically when dating and
now once you know, I'm not in

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a good place, but I'm like
going on these dates and like I know

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that these are my issues. Like
I've had a little bit of time as

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a single person now to like work
on some of the things that I didn't

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like about myself in relationships, which
has been it's been great to like do

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that work alone. But you know, I saw a meme the other day

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that said, at some point,
you're going to realize that the reason why

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you feel like you've done all this
work and you feel like you've healed is

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because you've been single for so long
and you're just not triggering the issues.

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bit, and I'm like, that's
true. No, that's absolutely there's more

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work to be done. But like
I'm in a better spot than I have

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been. But now I'm looking at
other people like where are you in your

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journey? That's a fair question to
ask, though some people have put in

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more time in the journey than others. You know, yeah, I don't

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want to be the Saint Shoots and
ladders. I've climbed the ladder. I

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don't want to slide to where you
are catch up. Yeah, yeah,

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I don't think that's wrong. Yeah, it's an interesting like talk. And

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she's like, you know, I
got it in there. I know.

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Yeah, it's not helpful. Oh
yeah ah yeah. So still rough out

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there, Still rough out there.
But you know what, I was gonna

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make a bad joke, but I'm
not. But I'm not that new Alley,

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that new work. We'll find another
way to transition into talking about the

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Titan submersive. Fuscle boy has something
that taken my attention like that in a

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while. I was there some time
summers I'm like, oh, where was

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she going? But any worse than
the memes I laughed at on TikTok.

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I don't want to get canceled today. Yeah, because there were some people

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out or on social media that were
literally they're still searching for this thing.

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And these people are making jokes.
Yes, and I'm not, by any

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means a billionaire sympathizer, but these
are actual people that lost their lives,

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right. And I was talking to
one of our coworkers. I won't say

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his name, but he was talking
about like conspiracy theories around it, sure,

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and how he like, there are
some conspiracy theories out there, people

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who think that this may have been
a big life insurance stunt. I've heard

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that. Now. To me,
that seems so not plausible. How do

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you have life insurance if you are
about to get on a submersive vessel that

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has not been safety tested, has
to be bolted in from the outside,

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has death listed in the waiver three
times on the first page. How do

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you even have life insurance if you
are going on that journey? Oh,

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billionairely I heard that from a lot
of people, and I was like,

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man, okay, entertain it for
a hot second. That sounds like so

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much work, Like you can't come
back and be your old self because you're

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supposed to be dead, so you
kind of like, I wouldn't. I

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don't think that's what it was.
I think it was just an unfortunate lack

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of testing and mother nature breaks me
out. Honestly, this this Titan Summers,

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I would never ever do that.
No, not for in a million

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years. I have a healthy fear
of open water. And in my opinion,

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we're looking for the aliens in the
wrong place. Everybody's looking up there.

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We got to be looking underwater because
space travel, you know, we're

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making moves on that getting farther and
farther and farther. It just takes us

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a really long time underwater, Like
you can't go there, you can't you,

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Oh my god. We need to
have a night. I'm going to

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get a sitter and Umi and Chris
are going to go out. I'm gonna

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get him a couple of beers and
the two of you are going to converse.

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Because he talks about this all the
time, he will not jump into

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water. He cannot see the bottom
of He's like, I'm sorry, we

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have only explored seven percent of the
world's oceans. There is no way we

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have any idea what's happening there.
Yeah, the hill, he will die

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out. He wouldn't go on a
cruise. No, No, he saw

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like he saw the Titan story first
started to come out, and he was

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like, can't then, I can't
say that I'm shocked. Can't say can't

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say that I am shocked, can't
say that I didn't something come and went

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wrong in deep water. It's like, you know what the most terrifying scene

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in Finding Nemo is whether at the
bottom and the light in the light because

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it's so pitch dark. Yeah,
a Disney Pixar movie. Scared me out

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of ever wanting to go. Yeah, deep ocean. No, there was

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this really terrifying graphic I saw on
one of the websites that was talking about

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this, and it had like different
depths of the ocean and it illustrated like

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this is where a blue whale is. And then it's like and this is

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a billion miles more down where even
whales won't go. No, that's gonna

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be And what's with all the whales
attacking the boats and like the hiaks and

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like the yachts. Right now,
the orcas and they're the experts are saying,

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usually orcas don't I don't know if
it's the orcas or if it's some

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other type of whale. Yeah,
but they're saying they don't usually gather in

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numbers of this in groups, and
they're in these huge like migration pots.

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There were like two hundred spotted off
a coast. They are organizing. I

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know, because we don't know what's
happening either. They're probably having pta meetings

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about this, have been for decades, announced the time. It's the time

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they know about the climate change.
Well, you just have the wonders.

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You have to wonder if they're pissed
at us and they're like, get the

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out of here, or if they're
trying to warn us. Oh god.

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You also need to watch a Netflix
show called Ancient Apocalypse. No, No,

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it's good. It's so scientific.
You're like, oh my god,

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we have we have a limited amount
of time left. We are so overdue

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for an apocalypse. I know.
When I was in high school in physics,

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my physics teacher made us watch a
documentary about the reversing of the Earth's

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polarity and how overdue we are for
the Earth's magnetic polls to flip. I

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didn't even know, and like,
what will happen if that happens? And

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honestly, it terrified me. It
terrified me. I don't even I think

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I've blocked a lot of it out, to be honest. Yeah, I'm

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just waiting for the next ice age. That's what it'll take us. I

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mean, I think we're like we
are pedal to the metal, headed for

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some sort of your mental apocalypse.
And don't you think the Orchis would be

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some of the first to know or
wills of any kind living down there where

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a lot of it would probably start. That's what I mean, Like,

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are they trying to warn us?
Oh my god? But also about that

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the yacht people, though, like
pick a better group to warn good.

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They don't careiaire, they don't care. They're on vacation. They're on their

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yacht and you know when you're a
vacation mode and you're like, nothing can

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get me down. No, that's
really no warn The locals warn't different people

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warm The locals get into a fishing
net real quick and be like, guys,

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shit, it's not okay down there
right like and there it's coming up.

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It's it's good. It's coming up. It's up. God. No,

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but I mean I one hundred percent
back exactly what you're saying, glued

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to the screens during the Titans submersive
and like, what what a god?

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I mean it was a I felt
like it was an okay ending in that

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there was no suffering, like at
least they didn't suffer. Oh. Did

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you read some of the other stories
of like past nautical disasters like the Russian

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submarine. No, I think it
was a Russian submarine. I think it

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was called the Curse. They somehow
like lost capabilities whatever, and the sub

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sunk. I don't know in what
ocean or how deep it was or whatever,

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but yeah, they just they didn't
implode. So they sat on this

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sub and just slowly died. No, I think I'm oh, my gosh,

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I'm gonna I'm gonna google that,
but I'm certain that's what it was

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called. And it was like,
oh my gosh when you talk about how

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lucky they were to go fast.
Oh God, it happened in two thousand

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No way. Yeah, Oh,
it exploded and then the rescue booie was

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disabled, so it took sixteen hours
to locate it resting on the ocean.

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Floor. It dured eighteen, but
it exploded, but it didn't like,

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yeah, I don't know. I
didn't like kill all of them right away.

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I don't think, oh, wikipedia
this, but it's terrifying. Oh

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my god, Like it's still like
in mint condition, well not mint condition,

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but like people were on it.
It was just a really opu way

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to go. So you brought a
really positive point in the fact that at

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least there wasn't suffering. I was
trying to do the timing in my head

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from the scientists talking about like three
milliseconds. It takes your brain like thirty

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milliseconds to realize something's happening and react, so like they had no idea.

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Yeah, a second it started.
I don't think a water depth is for

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me. I don't want that.
No, I know I need air,

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the air. Did you feel like
you were breathing a lot last week too,

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like so thankful for oxygen. I
saw your take Oh my god,

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you were like, take it in. It's good and it's free. But

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the oxygen reserves, which is what
you know everyone's sitting down. That was

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the fact that there was a time
clock and there was counting down ninety six

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hours forty eight hours, just over
twenty four hours. Okay, they are

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out of reserve oxygen and that wasn't
even right. I asked this question on

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one of my shows. Would you
rather in that situation? And this is

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this question not being careless or callous. Would you rather be someone on that

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sub like us, that doesn't really
have any mathematical or scientific knowledge and just

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clings to blissful hope. Or would
you want to be someone down there that

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was super knowledgeable, knew what was
up, and is like, oh,

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we're gonna die. I'd want to
be blissfully ignorant, like I don't want

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that countdown clock on my oxygen tank. I mean like earlier in this episode,

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I literally told you my to do
list is wake up and panic.

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Nothing about me on that vessel would
be blissful ignorant, Yes, blissful.

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So what you're saying is we never
have to worry about this because no one

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in their right mind would take both
of us together on any kind edition like

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this. You don't ask me to
go on your DeepC expedition. It's a

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no for me, no for me. You know what I did do,

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Randy Tis, I'm really okay with
just watching footage of other people exploring the

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ocean. I don't actually need to
do it myself. And that I feel

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like, is that something that you
sort of are born with or is that

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something that comes with money? Yeah? Oh yeah, I don't know,

422
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you know what I mean? Yes, I don't want to like these people

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who are like launching themselves on these
SpaceX rockets into the ether. Yeah,

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and like paying a quarter of a
million dollars to go check out the Titanic

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wreckage like they have simulators at Disney
World. I'm okay, yeah, I

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can't. I want to live a
little bit longer. And then that billionaire's

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step son who went to the Blink
on eighty Tube show while they were looking

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for these people. On one hand, I understand they were expensive tickets.

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The logic that what am I It's
not like he's leading this search, right,

430
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He's not with the navy or the
coast Guard. There's nothing he could

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do by sitting there doing nothing,
yeah, to help locate these people or

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keep them alive or whatever. But
it was just kind of like a pipe.

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You don't post it, just go
dude, you could just go on

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joy. And then he got a
d M from Travis Barker, that was

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like praying for you and your family. Did you see CARDI like take him

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apart what she was? She didn't. It's to story CARDI b and she

437
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was like people are saying like,
should he just be sad and sitting around,

438
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Yes, that's just sad Dad.
You should be wisdr mom and your

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family praying? Boy not shaking.
You're bleep and bleep at a plink way

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to concert. Just the Internet had
a lot of different feelings about the titan

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tragedy, and there were just so
many different points of coverage. It was.

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I was, I mean, I
was glued. I was glued to

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the screens and just one of those
things that you did not see coming for

444
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the year. No, not on
the bingo card. No, but like,

445
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no, well done Netflix re minding
everyone that Titanic is streaming. Yeah,

446
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I saw some people do, like
you guys, Netflix put Titanic on.

447
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.799
I was like, no, no, no, they did not titank

448
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is but on for months. I
would know. I've watched it like four

449
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times. It's my Saturday night.
Watch the actual film. The actual film.

450
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Okay, yeah, it is three
hours and twelve minutes of it's a

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good cry. Yeah, yeah.
So I also don't think going on a

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cruise is on my card. I
want to so bad go on a cruise.

453
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Yes, why I think they can't? You just go to an all

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inclusive somewhere on land. I like
boats, you like boats were good for

455
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:57.039
boat people, But I wonder if
I wouldn't do well because when we went

456
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out two weekends ago on like Michigan, it's the furthest I've gone out on

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a boat, and I couldn't really
see the shore. And I was like,

458
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oh no, no, no,
no, So maybe I'm all talk

459
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.519
not a lot of walk, because
that's also what I puked. Yeah,

460
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.559
oh yeah, okay, and it
showed up on the fish monitor. It's

461
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a lot of bomb. So maybe
I am not built for a cruise.

462
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In front of your kids, yes, well it goes Oh mom, can't

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be on the boat anymore. Yeah, I just absolutely blue show. But

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the waves were really big, That's
what I'll say. Waves were. I

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hadn't had anything to drink, I'd
not really been snacking. I just leaned

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over the side and then there was
another boat a little bit down the way,

467
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and all I could hear where the
guys go. You're doing no good?

468
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Over there, so maybe I'm not
built for a cruise. The summer

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Solstice, I was out on Lake
Michigan on a boat. I've never been

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out on the big Lake. I've
been in every different experience. It's a

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very different experience when you're in Grand
Haven and you're on a boat and you're

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going down the channel and you pass
like Snug Harbor and you pass Pronto Pops

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and everything's fine, like it's a
no wake zone. You hit this wall

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of cold air, yes, and
it's like you travel into a different dimension,

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is what it feels like to me, because like the temperature drops fifteen

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degrees and all of a sudden,
the waves are like giant, and I'm

477
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like and I'm like not. I
don't get super scared on boats, like

478
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I tend to feel pretty comfortable on
them. But there were sometimes where I

479
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:42.880
was like, oh yeah, we're
heading back right right like soon. Oh

480
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:45.400
yeah, man, it was kind
of scary two handed grip and just kept

481
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:52.119
my whole receipt for like five straight
minutes. Is it better on a bigger

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00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:58.199
boat, I don't know. Maybe
I don't know those mute, the big,

483
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.719
taller ones, though I wouldn't want
to be up there or like rocking

484
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.639
back and forth like the billionaire ones. The billionaire one. You know,

485
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I'm not not a billionaire sympathizer.
If they were puking because their boat was

486
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:14.519
too shaky, you get what you
get. Wake up, panic. Do

487
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:22.800
not sympathize with billionaires unless unless they
die in a submersive US and then not

488
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:27.159
being callous sympathetic about that. Sorry
about that. But also if I would

489
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.119
stay on the land, Muriel had
it right too, under her legs,

490
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:36.760
stay on the beach rill and you
know, maybe just she should have stayed

491
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:45.119
down there. There's a lot going
on of here too. Oh God,

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