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It's from four comic junkies, Jay Jay Hodges. What's up? JJ?
Hey, man, I'm excited to be here. I guess on the show
proper. That's still a term that the kids use these days, the podcast
proper. I think that's what I've settled on calling in on other channels.
But yes, you've made it man. JJ is a very long time loyal
patron and he's literally paid his dues. But also he's a fellow podcast host
and we've talked a lot. I've been on your show quite a few times.
A lot of our our circles here on the Always hold on To Family
have interacted with with you in your podcast over the years and stuff. So
here we are. Man, you made it on the on the show,
so I guess since this is your first time on the podcast Proper tell us
a little bit about your small villain Superman fandom and how you how you found
your yourself where you are today. It's it's funny, like looking back,
I was always a big superhero fan, so I couldn't tell you the first
time I saw Batman eighty nine or you know, Ninja Turtles or Superman,
you know, or even like Lewis and Clark, you know, But I
I just have really good memories of, you know, getting toys like the
there's a Chris Cloud shared a commercial from ninety six about like the Legend of
Superman toys or something, and I was like, I remember those, Those
were so much fun. And and I remember just you know, loving the
Christopher Reeve movies and then hearing that they wanted to make a TV show about
young Clark Kent and I was like that that might be kind of cool.
And then I I don't remember the name of the website, but there was
a website I used to follow for like movie news and TV news, and
it was like, oh, you know, they're they're starting to cast,
they're doing this, they're doing this, They're doing this. And then seeing
like magazine covers and going, Okay, well, I don't know who the
heck that guy is, uh referring to Tom Welling, but I'm recognized its
Michael Rosenbaum from Urban Legend that he had been in a couple of years ago
before. So I got really excited for it, and I was there the
day premiered, and then I sat with it run until the end. It's
a what a journey it was. You say, you stuck through it all
the way, and did you ever stop watching at any point? You should
get so frustrated you stopped watching all JJ Surprisingly, no, I like I
I missed a lot of season seven because at the time I worked like a
weekend night job, so it was like it was tough to keep up with
it. But you know, once like you know, the DVD started coming
out and you could, you know, suddenly buy stuff on iTunes, which
was kind of cool. I mean, this was like early twenty tens,
right, It's and I think it's funny to say that I ever dropped off
because on certain rewatches, when I think about the show and even listening to
your podcast, I'm just like, man, I think I think I just
was desperate for Superman content or something, because yeah, I just otherwise today
I'd be like I'm done. I'm done with this, Jimmy Elson a secret
agent. That's stupid. I'm out of here. I asked you that because
I dropped off until here here, until this episode here, like after season
eight, I was like, I can't now. I still recorded everything on
my DVDR and Lance and I got together Lance last year and watch the first
half of season nine like binge. It in a couple of days over like
winter break, as if there was such a thing, because I think we
were adults by this time. There was no college, there's no winter break,
Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. It was just like,
oh, okay, we got a couple of days in December, let's
get together and do this. Right. If you've heard listening to this episode,
chances are you heard the previous episode of the podcast about a small episode
which is Doomsday. And we went on quite a long, in depth discussion
about that, me and Anthony Desciato from Digging for Kryptonite, and yeah,
that was that was tough, and so I was I don't know, like,
I was like, I wasn't gonna give up on the show because it
was like my show. I watched it for eight years, but I needed
some time away. I needed some time away to find myself as an adult.
You know, sounds familiar, Yeah, right, I had to walk
away. I had to walk away for everything I ever knew and loved.
It helped though, like because I was still aware what was going on.
I'm seeing the comic con trailers, right, and oh look the black costume.
That's interesting, and yeah, yeah, the show's really trying to reinvent
itself. But it needed to. It was so strange because like season eight
was kind of a soft reboot, and I think the show needed it did
right, and then it kind of all went off the rails at the end,
and then this was this is also it almost feels like a soft reboot,
like they're changed so many things. We'll go through the episode as we
will and talk about it. It's like you look at it between season seven
and eight, and between season eight and nine, you could never predict what
they would have done with the next episode, Like so much of this stuff
doesn't fit, doesn't match, doesn't flow into the other whatsoever. Like you
know, you look at the earlier seasons, you know, seasons one and
two, two and three, uh, maybe not so much. Three and
four. It was a radical shift. But it's like, yeah, you
can't predict what's going to happen, but if it's like, oh, this
feels like a natural continuation what we just saw, like neither season eight or
nine beginning feels like a natural continuation of what you just saw the previous season.
But maybe but maybe that's what they needed, right, Maybe that's what
they needed and more changes, right. I mean we'll talk about you know,
characters and stuff like that as we go, but like the show moved
from Thursday to Friday night, Yeah, which was like huge, Like that
was like a huge shift because Friday night the Friday night death slot, right,
you know, so they sin shows there to die and small didn't die,
you know, did it did actually pretty well? I think, Susider,
we'll do our ratings watch thing when we get to it. But it
survived for two years on Friday nights on the CW and it was still,
after a Supernatural, the most successful show they had. So this is this
is a very important phase of the show. Like, you know, you
have your like we always talk about here, high school years, your college
drop out of years, and your metropolis years. Yea, but even then
you can slice those up one through three, and then four is a little
different, and then you know, here eight is a little different than nine
and ten. I think ninety ten are very similar, but eight is just
this weird, like, we don't have any of those characters we had for
seven years. What do we do? And they're still trying to figure stuff
out. And there's a lot of great stuff at the beginning of season eight,
and even you know, it's sprinkled, sprinkled throughout. There's some great
stuff, but wildly inconsistent season. And I you know, I'm very excited
to get into season nine here because I feel like this is one of the
most consistent seasons they ever did, and I remember enjoying it very much,
and I am enjoying this rewatch now and I'm really looking forward to seeing where
it goes because I don't there's a lot of finer details that I don't quite
remember. I'm like, wait a minute, But because they set up a
lot of stuff where I'm like, did they actually does this make any sense?
When we get to the explanations, and I knowing this show, I'm
gonna guess they don't. But we're gonna find out that. But yeah,
here we are in season nine. General Zode is here right out on Doomsday
in Regeneral Zod. They try to keep Sam whipper. As you heard in
our conversation with Sam whathever earlier on this podcast himself. He was like,
that's let's not do that. So he got out of that contract, which
was the wise decision across the board. It was a good decision for him,
It was a good decision for the show. It was a great decision
for Calm Blue for being part of this whole thing. But how did you
feel about like when you heard that's another thing? Man? When I heard
like they're bringing in Zod, I was like, guys, we did that
already, Like what are you doing? Right? And in between, like
seeing the news come out between the seasons, that didn't exactly inspire me to
like, oh, I can't wait to see what Smubble does next season because
that's a you know, the Superman movies, right, look at those and
people like always looks Lutheran, General Zode real and it you know, it
kind of always is right, And what's so Zog coming in? Like before
even seeing it, like, were you excited to see this, Like,
did you feel like they're just rehashing old stuff at this point or uh,
yeah, it just I wasn't that excited it, just like Zion, you
know, when when you're talking about like you know, it's always Lutheran zode
it, it just gets boring, like we haven't we seen this already?
And it really wasn't until they they announced Callen Blue had been cast and then,
uh, you know that comic Con trailer. That's when I started to
go, okay, like benefit of the doubt. Maybe they have something up
their sleeve here, you know, because at the very least that guy looks
like a young Terran Stamp, so that's kind of cool. It took me
a minute to warm up too, and even then, like I'll admit to
you up front here that I didn't actually even like this episode when it first
aired. It's really only on rewatches that I started to really like it.
Yeah, no, I mean it was it had to win me back over.
So when I first thought, I was like, Okay, we're off
the good start here. There's still some issues and like, and I enjoy
every time I kind of revisited to enjoy it. Yeah, but it's you
know, well we'll see we're rating to the end. But it's it's it's
not gonna be in my like well, it has to be my top ten
of small Veld season premieres, but yeah, it's not gonna be on like
on my top three must see small vel the season formiers or anything. But
you know, you mentioned Calum Blue and in Smallville the official magazine number thirty
four, available wherever magazines are sold, there's a very in depth interview with
Calum Blue here about Zod and I'm just gonna try to sprinkle these and space
these quotes out throughout that podcast because number thirty four is also the last issue
of small Ville, of the magazine. Really, we are really at the
end of the road here. My friends would come to the stuff. But
oh man, they ask turn Stamp about it. Listened to me, Tarrence
Stamp. They asked Callum Blue about being Zad and trying out for it and
things like that, and here's what he had to say. Quote. First
of all, they didn't tell anyone it was major Zod. They had a
fake name. I was in London and was sent the script pages. It
wasn't until after they flew me to Los Angeles the screen test that I found
out it was actually zadd I put myself on tape, they flew me out
and they told me it was the huge villain of the season. Then I
was tested and got the role. Like a lot of people, I was
aware of the Terrence Stamp version. I was a big fan of the Superman
movies when I was a kid, especially his character, because he really terrified
me. It's that kind of steely coolness that gets into your head. I
remember Tarn Stamp's Zod. When they told me it was that character, I
was completely excited. I couldn't wait to sink my teeth into it and do
a different take on it. And it's so true, like like this is
how we describe him, Like you could not cast the better young Terrence Stamp
this guy. And I know it's one that's not what they're going for because
like Terrence Stamp is Darrell on this show. Sure, so that's that's They're
not doing that intentionally, but it's like it's it's I don't know, like
this show as also a man things, do they live in the shadow of
those christophre Reed movies or not every not every version, but this this one
does for sure. Yeah, and it felt it felt right like it just
it felt it felt like I don't think because I honestly I didn't love when
they did a zade before. So I'm like, you, you had a
second shot at it, and you improved in my opinion, what I'm saying,
yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, I mean, Rosie
did the best decret. I suppose kneel before zad shroom whatever. Which,
by the way, I can't wait to get to that moment when we get
to them. Yes, he's well, I'll get into my thoughts as we
get into the episode because I feel like i'll just I'm going to relate it
to stuff that's happening during of course. Last quote I'll use from Calum Bloom
so far until we get into it, he says, talking about how much
he sounds like Terrence Stamp as well. Quote. Yeah, people say we
have the same voice. I'm trying to get that floaty voice because it works
with a character. It's a semi Shakespearean voice he has, and it brings
a drama to it. It's not my natural voice, and I like to
subtly change my voice and physicality for every character. For instance, it wouldn't
be the same voice as Mason and Dead Like Me. I'm playing around with
it. So that's one of the aspects of his performance I'm trying to incorporate
into my take on it. It brings a certain sense of doom. Now
Deadlike Me is what he was most known for. I haven't, honestly haven't
seen Callum Blue in anything else than this, have you j J No?
No, I even forgot he was in Deadlike Me until like years later when
I was like watching the DVDs. Honestly, I'll say, Lionel Lex right,
they're on their own level, not to be touched, right, but
one right after them, I've been put Calum Blue Zad. Yeah, he's
he brought that same kind of level of sophistication to it, you know,
I mean Tarrence Stamp, I mean, you know, dare I say,
is kind of one note as Zad, right, you know? Yeah,
And it's not a bad thing for the way he does it, But that
wouldn't fly with you know, having a twenty two episode R for this character
like he he's able to bring that strength plus the vulnerability that you know,
should we're insecurity, I guess I should say that that should that should come
with these villains that, you know, just let their egos drive every action,
you know. Yeah, Now I've said this many times. I don't
think we've ever had a bad ZOD other than maybe Michael Roosevelt, remember,
right, JJ for really, yeah, they're all so different, like like
even though even though we're talking about like, oh yeah, Calum Blue plays
a lot like Terrence Stamp, still very different. As you said, turn
Stanbury kind of one dimensional more or less. I mean that's right, that's
what that character called for back then. He did it fantastic. He's an
iconic movie villain, right, but but you know, he's not very layered.
It's not like going on there under the surface. Yeah, but Michael
Shannon is fantastic. He's probably the best villain in the DCU because he's just
a fantastic actor, you know. Yeah, I mean it's that there's not
a lot to choose when he comes to the villains, but I mean,
they're so different from each other. And then and then spoilers from Cryptod Walter
Steele, it's fantastic ZOD. Yeah, that was that was actually a great
shock that that first season that the The Traveler had come from The Traveler listen
to this, listen to this smaller family were talking about the yeah Colin Salmon
from Walter st Merrow, Right. The whole thing was we thought it was
gonna be Brainiac, right, right, right, But I mean and that
wasn't wrong because Brainiac was coming, but it was Zodd that was the one
that was messing with time and space. So that was actually kind of an
interesting twist. I thought that is a show that I was like, what
do we do it? Right? And then I'm like, this show is
amazing, Like it really it won me over. I really did enjoy it,
and I was really disappointed that it got cut short after you know,
two seasons. But yeah, who would have thought Oliver Queen's step dad would
be one of the best general Zadd's right, but again, so different than
all those other versions, and like, I couldn't tell you, like who
my favorite one is, honestly, I really couldn't. Like if you just
roll with ice and I'm like, yeah, there's merits for all of them,
and I'm very We're very fortunate in that way because you know, there's
a lot of all ex luthors, but a lot of them are clearly better
than other ones. You know, and you can't say that about like so
there, but for Zada as much as we say oh Zad again, like
they find a way every time you sum with it, and that that is
a huge reason why this season works as well as it does. And they
set up so many things here that continue on into the throughout the whole ark
of the season. Even rewatching this, I was like, oh, this
is kind of it's like what tri at rhymes the same thing that the Lighter
And it clearly was unintentional. I give these I give this show no credit
that they thought this through, but they worked out a lot of things and
it really was an inspired thing to do because when you lose Lex Luthor,
the Doomsday was a good the werewolf dooms Day was a good way to to
adapt that character. But it just only it has his limitations. Yeah,
Like I think like Davis Bloom and that story kind of ran out of steam
by you know, Bride, I'm like, okay, we're done, Like
that's the culmination of that character. Oh no, no, we have twelve
more episodes and there's only so much you can do. And then you know,
we already talked about the fight and stuff the end and and and and
when it's a it's fun to see a villain you can like enjoy, like
you love to hate. Right, that's the word that the phrase they use.
And I'm like with Dooms say, oh he's a tragic he doesn't want
to be bad, and like, okay, I'm I'm done, I'm feeling
I'm done feeling sorry with these guys, like we just have a villain here,
you know. So so it was it was a great gear shift into
a very necessary thing for a show that there's no Luthers anymore. Right,
all right, what do you do? You go to General's autemwork down.
And that's a huge reason the season where it's but all that to say,
we have arrived at season nine. Let's get into it. Savior, there
is no Clark. Hint, I wear the symbol, remind myself that I
have a different destiny. Let's get that. You're embracing your Kryptonian side.
There's nothing human about you anymore. Started the training that Jill always wanted me
to do. I gave up everyone important to me. And what part of
that involves skulking around a phone booth looking for loss. I know you're out
there somewhere. I promise you can trust me. It's not a copy,
it's a vigilance, an exposure. Look, I know who he is.
His name is John Corbett. Who the hell are you nil it for a
short? Why are you risking your own life? Because it's the only I
had to defeat you before you destroy our world. I will apply the answers
we are looking for. I will die. It's Smallville season from me.
You're on It's new Night, Friday, September twenty eight, seventh Central.
Savior is the first episode of Smallville's ninth season. It aired on September twenty
fifth, two thousand and nine. Was written by Kelly Saunders and Brian Peterson
and directed by Kevin G. Fair. Now, JJ, we do the
ratings? Watch now for these last era of Smallville? And what do you
think Savior got in September of two thousand and nine. Now, let me
give you some context may or may not help you. Okay, But but
Doom's Day, which aired May of that same year, got three point one
three million viewers on a Thursday night on the CW. So now we're on
Friday night a few months later, had a very contentious, divisive season finale.
What do you think the ratings are for this season premiere, I would
say just over a million, like one point two million, one point You
think they lost over half their audience? Yes, okay, you're wrong.
Well that's nice. Two point five eight million. Okay, they only lost
a half million. Yeah, I was one of those half million. Then
they lost I mean, I don't know if they come of my DVR recording
it. I don't know how this stuff works. But two point five eight
and I'll tell you what it goes up. And now the rest of the
season, like, that's not the high note, so which is that's a
good thing. You never want you never want your first episode to be your
highest rate episode. It is there you have a problem. I think season
series premiere is one thing, because that's like the whole world was watching.
There's been you know, But after that, like you know, you don't
want it to be a steady downward trajectory the entire time. And that's not
what happens in season unfortunately. But yeah, there we go. We'll keep
a watch on that as we're doing in this final era of Smallville. But
hey, having moved nights and I think Friday night, all right, a
lot of people have nothing to do watching Smallville. I guess I was what
if, I don't know what I was doing. I wasn't watching alive,
but I was definitely recording it. So there you go. And hey,
we get a previously on Smallville to start off this season, don't me JJ.
Yeah, it's always interesting to see who they pick. I don't know
if it's like I don't know if it's arbitrary. I don't know if you
get paid more I don't know, or less or whatever, but like they
justin Hartley, right, yeah, previously on Smallville, and I just took
a couple of notes on what they decided the feature. They showed the lowest
Clark bl relationship. They showed tests, and they really blew through Davis and
Doomsday real quick, Like can you imagine joining this on? Well, they
heat Doomsday and that it must have been awesome to go back and watch them.
They really lean into this ORB. You know, I's like, oh,
Lex knew this ORB. But I'm like, okay, done with the
Lex talk and all that. He's not coming back. I really truly hope
this is the last time you hear the words the Traveler ever on the show.
It's like the Traveler has to defeat the Beast to let out the life
and the Orb. I'm like, okay, I don't want to hear that
anymore. It's like the last eight episode titles for season eight, Late the
Beast the Orb Traveler exactly just fixated on that, right. We show the
Legion ring, all right, that's given to Clark. We see Lois using
my accident. Then we see again leaning in the Lex as much as they
can. We see the Lex get blown up in the truck, and then
Oliver did it, and we see Jimmy's death and then Clark Saint Clark and
is dead and fields of dreams out into the doorway, which which I never
understood. I don't know what we're saying there, but there you go.
You watch second. I go, okay, all right, I guess they
killed Jimyilson, Henry Henry James Olson. I think they throw that in there
and that, yeah, they do make a point to say that, which
I was a little bit like, all right, man, like you're already
tested me. We go to to Watchtower, which, as I will remind
everyone, that that down on his luck, out of money, stealing things,
doing petty theft and buy drugs because he had no money. Jimmy Olson,
Henry James Olson, excuse me, bought for Chloe and never sold.
So just let's remember where this came from, in a show about a Kryptonian
who's allergic to Medea rocks. That's that's pretty unbelievable what you just said,
probably the most unbelievable thing we'll see today. But we go into the watchtower
and uh, Chloe's on the phone calling about Lois, who's been missing for
three weeks. Wait, wait, there was a great instance of what Lois
literally says, what day is it? Later we're gonna have some I'm gonna
save that for then. We're gonna talk about that then. But so this
is three weeks after doomsday. Yes, it's it's watchtower, is not SI
big time issues we'll talk about when when we get our like nineteen fifty five
martine fly newspaper that we'll talk about it them. Okay, that's so dumb,
Martin, even dude, look around. It's the fifties. You don't
need a newspaper. But this is this is the Watchtower. It's not quite
set up yet, right, Chloe has this this makeshift desk. It's got
some missing I'll take a screenshot if it's got some missing person flyers for Lois.
You got some stock images of Chloe and Henry James on the desk.
But then we hear we hear a noise and the Chloe pulls up this big
ass gun. I'm like, that felt strange to me. I agree,
it was like I think maybe it was the size of it. I was
like, good God, that's like Andre the Giant's gun Robocops guy exactly.
So she hears this noise and then she's like, but your hand's up,
you're gonna get a news job or something. And it's it's clearly, you
can clearly see it's doctor Hamilton's. Yeah, it's not a shadowy, it's
clearly him. And she's still like talking to this mess Tom. Apparently he's
a gun expert. JJ. Yeah, he knew the exact model. And
I think wait, and I was just like all right, Like it's it's
one of those like we have to show off the genius, so he has
to be quirky about it, right, like a Sheldon Cooper type of a
bit. It's just it's like, okay, you can just say you can
put down the gun. Smart Yeah, you know, I'm cool with him
knowing about the space time continuum, but he doesn't even know the make a
model of every gun, you know what I'm saying. So he has a
international Man of Mystery spy passed I guess was chocolate for sure, but she
thinks Ali might have sent him. And the Justice League is apparently disbanded because
they all feel guilty about Jimmy dying. Yeah, say, we should love
what Clark is doing, like he feels guilty about it, but he's still
like doing stuff and saving people, like if anything else, he's overcompensating,
right right, right, all these other guys they just quit. Yeah,
it's I don't know, especially for a team that late in the game,
like they've been around for a couple of years, Like, yeah, I've
seen some tragedy. You had to do it, right, Like and I
just, you know, I don't buy it, you know, but especially
i'd say especially Oliver, but I don't even know, but I guess I'll
put the blame on him because he's a series regular. Yeah, well that's
the thing, right, you don't Oliver being a series regular is a problem
because they have to explain, like why aren't you being Green Arrow and we're
all your superhero friends, like if no one knows if it was just Clark
in Metropolis, you could say, oh, well, they're all all around
the world, but then you have to have Alliver. We'll get the Oliver
later. But it's like, I don't think it was necessary to disband the
Justice League because they did that at the beginning of season eight. If they
didn't all got all I'm hiring or whatever, I'm like, guys, you
don't have to keep explaining like they can just be somewhere else. Well that
that was believable though, like they were gonna stay under the radar versus they're
just like, you know, they pull a Bruce Wayne at the beginning of
Dark Knight Rises, but girlfriend, nothing out there for me, off right,
And then that's defining trade, like, oh, someone I love died,
I have to quit. That's Batman's definding trade. Anyway, Hamilton drops
like a well, Clark is doing adequate job without his sidekick, Like I
don't know if that was some sort of backhandon's compliment to her. I don't
know what that was about, but that was that was a little like,
Okay, that was a jab that I don't think she deserved you know,
by the end of this episode, Chloe deserves some jabs. But maybe yet.
Oh yeah, I was because he guys heard me in real time,
just just souring on Chloe. And I'm like, are they going to redeem
her character in the next season. I don't think they do. We'll get
into it. But we see that this this the light rail going to Metropolis,
you know, the famous light rail we'll see forever on this back lot
here, but it's cgi and extended going to the city. Okay, it's
pretty cool, new new shot here. But then we see this like purple
electricity, and a time portal opens up from the sky with lightning. He's
like terminator. All of a sudden, right, Lois Lane appears and she's
like, what the hell? And I'm like, and I am saying the
same thing. Yeah, oh, we're doing this okay. But but then
we see the Legion ring on our hand, and then a second second time
portal shows up. I think it's blue like things, they're different colors.
I don't know why they need to be different colors, like it should all
be purple. Anyways, Fine, it's okay, and then we we see
we see another person to show up dressed like the Winter Soldier. Uh,
yeah, it was. That was really like, what was the point of
this mask she was wearing? If only, I guess, just to be
a clue for later the only reason I can think of. Yeah, I
guess because it's just or you know, just to have a cool look.
I guess. You know, Ninja lady. Yeah, you know, and
that's why Lowis keeps calling her that. But it's just like, okay,
well it's a defining trade, I guess now. I don't think we ever
get this character's name in this episode, but Aliyah is her name. I
know. We meet her again later on in the season obviously. But she
is played by Monique Ganderton, who is first and foremost a stunt person.
She's stunt coordinator, a stunt person, so she does a lot of stuff
and on that realm of things. But she played a proximate Midnight and Avengers
Infinity War an Avengers in game. Whoa there you go? She stepped up.
Yeah, but hey, you know, they cast it's like a Ray
Park situation, and they cast like a stunt person martial artist to play this
very adept stunt person. Martial artists but do we get did you know we
get this Quentin Tarantino shot of Lois through the train. It's a great shot.
Which one are you talking about or it's like it's it starts out like
far away and it zooms in on her like an in camera zoom. Oh
yeah, yeah, I call it a Quentin Tarantino's shot, but we all
know, being the film historians, everyone that it's actually a technique from the
sixth Seas instide of and he sent him by the quint turn, you know,
just duplicates because he's like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't know I'm talking. But it's a really good shot of Lois and
like, and they use it in the opening credits ade for this too.
It's like a really cool, like I really like the directions. So there's
a lot of good camera moves I noticed, and and that was one of
them. So it's like, you know, the the Assassin, here Aaliyah
zeroing in on Lois, and well, so does she have her powers or
not? Jj uh? It would appeared momentarily she did not have her powers,
which given what we know about the show, she shouldn't have her powers
at all. But it's just I just kind of I just kind of had
to go with it. I'm like, okay, like we just wanted to
start with an action piece. Okay, but I'm cool. I would have
been cool if it was a consistent in this episode. But it's inconsistent because
I'm like, oh, I see her just fighting Lois like kung fu style,
and I'm like, okay, it's because she doesn't have her powers.
Yeah, of course, because she's a Kryptonian Cline, right, But then
later on she using re vision. I'm like, wait a minute, whoa,
whoa. Then she pulls out the bluecrypt night. I can only assume
the blue Kryptonite had had fallen out of that led back during this fight.
It had to have, otherwise it's just Lois. Either Lois got really strong
during the temporal Ripper, she got really weak. I don't know, but
now I'm overthinking it. Yes, but then we get a knockout to keep
Clark's secret because the train goes off the tracks and Lois hits her head.
Yeah and yeah, I think this is a pretty great save, like just
visually two special effects wise, especially for a later season in Small though,
I really like how they combined the CGI in the practical, and I thought,
this is a really good save of Clark catching the train here. Oh
yeah, I totally agree. And I'm glad you said that because I I
thought about it when before we you know, before I took my rewatch,
I was like, yeah, that's a really good shot, isn't it,
And then like watching it, going oh yeah it is. It's just you
know, for the budget they had, like you said, the budget they
had, the time plus just you know, sometimes it's it's cool just to
we don't need to see him catch it. It's just the implication, right,
you know. And I don't mean that in a Dennis Reynold's kind of
a way, but but just because our brain puts it together, but Clark
did, did the hero thing. Yeah, I would much rather see this
than like a really bad cgi version of this, right. But no,
he catch it in the it's really cool moment because he sees low Us through
the glass and he's like relieved. But then he's like, oh, well,
I I have to go away, and then she wakes up and he
speeds off and then he he burns the the Superman symbol into the wall and
apparently he's been doing this for the last three weeks. How how do you
feel about this? Like he's gonna save people and then burn the Superman symbol
everywhere he goes. I I get it in context of the story, and
I think it does kind of fit Clark's journey or at least his mindset,
you know, the way he explains it to Darrell. But at the same
time, it's a little bit like I don't know, like you know,
it's it's worse than you know, leaving a note that says courtesy if you're
a friendly neighborhood spider Man, you know, like it's it's kind of the
equivalent of that, but it's like way worse property damage. Yeah, because
it's like, dude, like this is this is you're burning into this brick,
like and it's their way of having the Superman symbol but not having Superman,
right, right, that's what they figured out, which which goes even
further into what his costume is. So, yeah, we see Lois gets
out of the train, she sees the s She should have no idea what
that even symbolizes, because the red bubler didn't have a symbol. That's true.
But then to the to the episode's credit, I don't they don't really.
They keep it all very vague, but it's like she looks off like,
oh, he must be up there or something. Right, So we
get this pan up of the of the building and then we see we Clark.
He's up there in full Batman mood, perched over the city and this
is this is a big I remember this in the trailer the comic con trips
like, oh, he's got the black costo. But it's like that.
I love this costume. This is my favorite Clark costume on the show because
it has the Superman symbol on his chest. He does shirt rips and the
trench coat is like a cape. Okay, like this red bluebird thing,
which is some clothes that he wore. He's been wearing that for like seven
out of the eight seasons up to that point, and then season ten the
jacket like he barely uses it, and then the S is on the jacket
and not the shirt, and it's more like a step back. I don't
know, Like I get the Matrix criticisms, I get, you know,
the X Men two thousand criticisms, but like I like the blurb costume from
season and what about where do you fall on this? I you know,
I totally agree. Uh and and for kind of all the same reasons,
you know, very just superficially, it's it's a he's wearing the s finally
he's got some form of a cape. It was just you know, the
the two thousands and early you know, well, yeah, I guess mainly
the two thousands. Uh, we're such a weird like we got a compromise
on the way these costumes look, you know, like a certain like modern
cool, gritty sensibility, right, and it's like, okay, sure,
But at the same time, there's also precedent for Clark to wear black from
the comic books, and it is kind of fitting after the fight with Doomsday.
Now he's you know, kind of a little cold and distance, so
he's wearing the black suit. YadA, YadA. You know, we can
wax poetic about that as much as one. We don't have time for that.
But at the same time, you know, the matrix criticisms and stuff.
I was just like everybody was doing it in the you know, like
ninety eight, ninety nine, and you remember like Mystery Men from like ninety
eight, Yeah, yeah, they I don't think that's what they look like
in the comic book. I don't really know for sure, but it's how
they looked in the movie. Just yeah, Hey, let's not forget that
Batman is blue and gray in the comics until nineteen eighty nine. That was
people forget. People always forget, like no, that that invented the black
bat suit that we still used to this day, you know. Right,
but in Smallville the official magazine number thirty four available Rebber magazine just sold.
There's an interview quoted from a TV guide interview, so it's second hand,
but with Tom Welling talking about the new costume, and you said, quote,
I've gotten away for many years with a blue T shirt and the red
jacket. Very easy wardrobe for me, very simple, straightforward, very comfortable.
This new wardrobe, the leather jacket is a little warmer, and you
have to learn how to not step on your jacket when you're in a fight
sequence. You learn that pretty quick. Doesn't take many times before you figure
that out. But yeah, this is, uh, you know, our
our last shot for a get into the opening credits, right, and we'll
see this shot in the opening credits to end there opening credits for you know,
the next couple of years of the show and opening gredits. Look,
I love it. Almost every season there's a new one. I'm still mad
about season two and three not changing even I know the cast didn't change,
But all you had to do is switch out some clips. Uh, I
had. I had a few notes here about the new opening credits and and
you know, give me some feedback here. What do you think? But
there's there's there's like there's like three new shots of Clark, all from like
the new season, which is great, showing off the new black suit and
all that. I think that's great. Alison Mack who's second billing. Now,
look at her working her way up because he hang around long enough get
that second billing. A couple of new shots, both from this episode,
one of which with the big ass gun. But I think of Chloe.
I think that big ass gun, Like, I don't know why you would
do that. They used the Quentin Tarantino shot of Lewis on the train in
here. But but of course they keep that swimsuit shot of her from Aqua
because they're not gonna let that go. That's iconic stuff. I'm I'm not
mad that they left it in. Of course they leave in the Apocalypse shot
of Clark with the glasses just to taunt us fans like, oh, they're
most soul were he would? No, No, that was one shot.
It's just like you see it as long here as it wasn't the episode itself
ridiculous tests. I feel like they could have vexed some better shots of her,
like they didn't. I was like, that's just generic test stuff.
Sure there are some, but there are some great zad shots in this almost
all of them are from the episode. But did he not look exactly like
mister Fantastic from the Fantastic Four movies Ion Rufford? His name is, Oh
my god, I guess he kind of does, but especially in the shot
they using the opening credits of him like turning over and give him a test
that like smile. Yeah, I'm like, next time you watched the season
and episode, y'all, he looks exactly like him? What have you done?
You know? There's some Oliver action in here, you know, the
a couple of shots from this episode. Two. Uh. I was surprised
they still have the season one bus crash from Rogue in here. Yeah.
Yeah, it was a great stunt, but I'm like, y'all, that
was like eight years ago. Like, but thank god there's that and not
the CGI mace to the face or the which comes later in the show.
But well, you know, the as far as the bus, uh you
know, pet goes, it's like, okay, that was a that was
like you said, a cool stunt and stuff in season one, but you
said way cooler saves and the freaking eight years since standing stationary lighting a buzz
at him. So they switched out some of the Fortress solitude stuff, like
the stuff here, like I think we've seen him and the fortress in the
in the red jacket. That's out. They switched out for the new stuff
here. The almost kiss between Clark and Lois from Bride is in here.
I'm showing you kind of where they're going with the relationship. And then the
montage at the end, we get we get the close up of him walking
away from the exposure from Justice. We get the flying from Crusade, which
we're always gonna see w forhever. We get the missile going off and hidden,
and then we get the shot we just saw of him on the rooftop
in the black suit. And uh, there's a great montage. This just
some great opening credits. It's just funny to think about what they choose and
what they don't choose. I think Tess is underserved here. One of her
shots is her pushing a button to blow something up with her faces even in
focus. It's it's It's also one of those weird, almost forced perspective shots
where her hands gigantic in her head. Yeah. Oh man, So we
go, we go to the open credits and we come back and uh we
we see the shots we just talked about him and the fortress, seeing the
seeing the stuff. Now there is no attempt made to explain why the Fortress
is back. Like season eight, it was like, oh, Jarrell's dead
and the Fortress is dead, and Brady act and Dooms eight took it over
and it's a big, like blackened shell of itself. And because they thought
that was the end of the show, we don't have to worry about this,
don't worry about it, and they don't worry about it. I get.
I'm not gonna complain. I'm gonna just assume that Clark turned it back
on at some point. Sure, it's it's as good as good as an
explanation as any, you know, It's just it's probably as much thought as
the writers couldn't do it well. So that's what I'm talking about this all
this like there's all this discontinuity between like what just happened, Like because I
think about season seven eight, it's like this orb will control you. It's
like, yeah, I just took away your powers. Oh, I mean
I can manage that. He should have just said that. Yeah, it's
oh boy, now we get a care mentioned, right Clarkson, Why can't
I fly? Because like you're still serial soul fuzz a human. I'm like,
okay, that that makes sense to me, Like I know we're all
cynical and what doesn't he just fly? Man? And I'm like, hey,
he's grown up as a human, he's a friend of high. He
has some mental block. I accept that explanation for why literally every other Cantonian
can't fly and he can't. Yeah, yeah, no, I was you
on that. I just the some of the draw stuff. I just I
don't know. I think about it, like when you're talking about inconsistency,
it's like like, here was this kind of a cool take on the character
when he was kind of malicious and manipulative in the you know, first couple
of you know first couple of seasons, and then now that he's like getting
what he wants and he's training kelll He's just keeps telling him to put his
back or put his you know, to put his humanity behind him, you
know, turn his back on his humanity. I'm just like, I don't
I don't know if I buy it, and I don't know if I like
this Jarrell anymore. So I'm a little I'm a little worried about Clark,
who keeps going back to the abusive dad. So that's no, that's a
valid point that they're trying this rehabilitation with Drill, Like, look, we
made him kind of a jerk, but you're right, that was at least
intriguing, and it wasn't that he was malicious, like for Malicia's sake,
if he was an alien, so they had a different worldview literally, and
he was a computer, so of course you're not going to be able to
reason with him and talk to him and all this stuff. Right, That
was fine, you know, but then they like the Superman returns of it
all. You gotta do crystals, you gotta do fortresses, you gotta have
like friendly Jarelle stuff, Like they were like, well, we'll just we
gotta we gotta make it like the movies, Like okay, I guess,
but yeah, they're having these conversations about like oh yeah, you know,
the person in the way of focusing all this. I'm like, what's this
like cycle analysis? You have a therapy session now. I will say,
like, there's two scenes here off the top of Jarelle and Clark, and
I'm like, those should have been combined in to one scene. They felt
kind of redundant, like because the next skipping head slid, like the next
scene we see with them like he's jumping off the Statue of Liberty, right
or Lady Gotham if you're watching Batman Forever. But so I think they should
have come back from the break with him on the statue of Liberty and you're
like, oh, that's cool, and then he jumps like oh that's cool,
and then revealed then that he was in a simulation and then all those
conversations going to be one scene. I think that would have made felt a
little I don't know, they're just throwing that out there. Yeah, no,
it's a It's one of those things that you know sometimes these episodes they
just they almost need to rewrite. After the final rewrite, you know,
it's just you go buy three shoots and yeah, and obviously you can't really
do that with the schedule they had, but it's just a little bit like,
Okay, I guess you needed to either have the run time or make
sure that Terrence Damp got you know, you know, you know, you
got what you're paying for that day. Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah, it just felt like and almost like I know they talk about slightly
different things, but it's like redundant to see two dozen same. Speaking of
Terrence Stamp, how many episodes do you think he's in this season? In
season nine? Jj? Uh, there's there's twenty two altogether, right,
yes, uh nine? You think Terry Sam Sharrell is in nine episodes this
season? Yes, you're rock again. I give you a second chance and
you've failed. Dude, he's in two episodes. That's it. What he
believed that, Oh my god, I must be I must be confusing him
with Julian Sands or something. Julian Sands is in technically two episodes, technically
just one, but like we see his like outlined in one other episode in
season nine. It's crazy to me, like you think Darrell is here,
like all it's to me, that was like Marsha Man hundred and season six.
Oh yeah, he shows up and he's like in the last half of
the season. No, he's like in three episodes. It's yeah, well,
now that it's that you mentioned, it's like, so the last time
we okay, it's two episodes. Last time we hear Darrell's voice is when
he's telling Clark why he gave him telepathic powers. That is correct, Give
me a break. This is part of your droll. Sure it is,
just like it wasn't the fifties when he could shoot Little Superman out of his
fingertips. But that's the thing they I remember back in the day, right,
And we'll talk about when we get to Echo. That's the fourth episode
when he does that. But like I remember early small velop Brugers like,
oh yeah, it's like puberty with superpowers. Yeah, he could wake up
one day and be green. It's gonna be great. We can have so
much. And they never do anything like that. They never do like,
oh, he had some weird power for a little bit because he was growing
up. They never do that, and they do it now when he's like
basically Superman whatever. So yeah, so there's a couple of Darrell scenes there.
They could have been the same, you know whatever, Right, I
like this just throwing in the statue liberty that that was cool, just to
do something, do something different like that. Yeah, I wish they did
more. You please use more stock footage. You have expand the scope of
the show. And so like the same four sets over and over. Please.
So we got a hospital. There is a plus one. Lois is
at the hospital. M Chloe shows up and they keep calling each other Low
and Chloe. But I don't like it, neither did I. I As
soon as she kept saying Low, I was there was a part of me,
and I guess it was just like the dad part of me. I
was like, no, No, that's that's Sam's name for her. You
stop that. That's not okay. Your name is Lois. You don't need
to shorten it in your four letters. You don't need to shorten it any
further. You know, parents totally a little low? Sure, fine,
but not your cousin. Has she ever called her low on this show?
Ever? I don't think so. The reason too. Three times JJ with
it within like thirty seconds low Low, and that whoa, come on,
and you know I didn't like that in bad Famber Superman either, he said,
Oh I didn't see it. Low. I'm like, since when does
Superman call close Lane? Low? All right, It's just I have very
strong opinions about this. Like it's like, you know, I just I
just went with my gut normm like a nickname, I can call you something
like Caah, Like, yeah, Carl's pretty short already. But that's all
they ken thinking about. When you were going on about that, I was
like, you know what, like I'm with him because of that scene is
so freaking flying. Yes, so yeah, you know, but but I'm
with you Low and Chloe and Mo and Curly too. I guess I don't
know. But Low has a case of amnesia jays amnesia count plus one.
Now are we When did she get this amnesia? Like, I honestly do
not remember uh Pandora enough to understand what happens here, you know, But
like, did she get the annesia when she hit her head on the train.
She woke up on the train, she was like, what the hell?
So she looked confused. So did the time travel give her amnesia?
I don't know what happened, but she has no she has no memory what
happened because the writers haven't written it yet. That's why we have this.
Yes, technically probably for sure actually, but but no, it's definitely,
uh, like because I did rewatch Pandora before we record actually uh and yeah,
it's it has to be the traveling through time that erases her memory,
because she was like, she knew everything that was going on up until then.
But that's not how it works. I didn't I didn't say it's worse.
I just said, that's what happened. It's like, did they ever
explain why she didn't go to the thirty first century? No, that's what
I'm talking about. She's just she shows up and they think they're gonna fight
Doomsday and they're like, oh, what the well, I guess we have
to kill her. He was thinking to take it another human form, and
that's crazy. We never see the Legion again. No, Booster Gold steals
the Ring and that's the closest we get to see them. And I know
the show never had the budget to sin Clark to the feature like that,
but could we least see somebody else from anyway? So anyway, So Lois
is so out of out of it. She thinks that Chloe was off playing
Thelma and Louise with a creature from the Black Lagoon. I'm like, okay,
I understood those references. It was. It's just it's hilarious when they
fit in like two, three or four into like one or two sentences.
Then I'm just a little bit like, all right, can we calm down
just a little bit. And that's why watching your show like Superman Lois is
so nice, because it's like, oh, look, people don't use a
pop culture reference every five seconds on that show. Yep, yes, And
I look, I love Smallville and I use pop culture references every five seconds
on my own wife. But I'm saying I'm not normal, So like,
well, you are catering to me. Please stop catering to me. I
feel seen but also judge at the same time. So but but, but
Chloe cannot spit out that it's been three weeks. Lois keeps going off,
oh, I gotta get here and there, and I was, oh,
this and that, and she's like, Lolois, I need to tell you
something very important. It's like, oh, okay, well you know what.
Why don't you go get me some sedatives. Okay, I will,
And of course she sneaks out. It's like, could you It's very important
to tell her. This woman thinks it's three weeks ago. Yeah, JJ,
she thinks it's September fourth, two thousand and nine. Well, I'm
gonna tell you she's wrong twice. I don't know, and that's that should
be impossible. But I'm afraid it's not not today. Oh but she she
stinks out and they and they have this shot lingering on the legion ring.
I'm like, oh, someone who shouldn't have this is gonna get it.
It's good. This is a very intentional shot, right, I don't know,
Like they linger on the leisure ring and then it turns out he just
grabbed and we shooting back in. I'm like, what do you There's so
much drama possibility there for a leisuring just be floating around and it's just like,
no, Chloe got it. We didn't even see it. We didn't
even see Chloe get it. She just has it later. It could have
been a good tie in to, you know, instead of lingering on the
ring, like linger on Chloe and what she realizes it is and what it
can do. So there's a payoff to the to the ending of the episode.
This is what you're saying about the the rewriting it. Yeah, this
is why movies do reshoots, you know, Like I know the reshoots is
like a four letter word these days, But I remember my origins. Wolverine
came out, yes, and it leaks and everybody was talking about it.
I remember a name specifically interview with Ryan Reynolds talking about and he's like,
people make a bit deal ont of reshoots. Every movie has reshoots, and
he was right, yeah, no, I mean, like that movie is
a bad example to use to defend them, but it's it's common procedure,
right. It's it's like some of you some of the best scenes in movies
reshoots, but like you but on a TV show, you gotta keep moving
forward. You can't do. But if this was a movie, people pay
well, You're known want much out of scene where she pricks it off,
and they're as you know, because you're perfect, right, there's no setup
for that payoff at the end. So Lois runs out of the street,
goes to that foom booth. It's it's twelve oh six instead of midnight.
So I'm sorry, I'm lad, I know you saved me. Thanks.
Meanwhile, like, I hope you're out there, and then we cut the
Clark in the fortress, so she he wasn't there. I don't know.
I hate to break it to j Lois, but he ghosted you. Yeah,
and he's hanging out with like a literal ghost. But but hey,
you know, the camera moved the three sixty camera again. I like all
the camera movement series. A lot of dynamic energy to this stuff. Even
though they're on this this backlot set, They're they're adding some scope to it,
so so I enjoy that. But yeah, we get to that Clark
scene we already kind of talked about with Jarrell and stuff that should have been
kind of combined into one scene, I think, but only you know the
person blocking O focus because he keeps thinking of Lois and he's messing up his
his his his training. Althose you find out in that bed and Breakfast episode
he got some other kind of train. It helps him out down the road.
Am I right? You guys what I'm talking about. Darrel's like,
I cannot allow you to mingle with the humans unless you do it right,
wink. I don't even that works because that's like a comedy episode. That's
the only reason that kind of explanation works, you know what I mean,
it would have been a scrubs bit anyway. But Clark's whole thing actually get
some insight. He's like, well, I let Jubi die and I can't
let anyone else die again, and that's why he's pushing himself so hard.
But I'm like, hey, good for you. I'm like the justice like
over here, who's over doing cage fights and who knows what else they're doing.
So, but Clark is coming to all the wrong conclusion. She's like,
oh, I know, thanks Dad, I have to tell ols goodbye.
I never see her again. I'm like, no, you know,
you came to the wrong conclusion. That's that's only collusion he comes to.
Well, good on Clark too, for finally learning a lesson, right,
you know that he that it's it's helping him be objective with his saves then,
you know, so there's less human attachment. So you kind of get
where Jarrell is coming from and where Clark's coming from. But at the same
time, it's like you're learning the lesson, but it's still like one step
four or two steps back. You know, because you didn't need to go
that far. I suppose he's still young, like what forty they I feel
like they hint later that he's close to twenty five, which okay, let's
let's let's do some math. I we're gonna, we're gonna get I always
give season one in the bed for the doubt, and I ran everybody's ages
up, so it's less weird. He's fifteen in season one, it's eight
years later he's twenty three. Okay, so I don't know. I was
pretty mure if it's twenty three year olds. I don't. Yeah, I
mean I can buy it, you know. Yeah, but he's also but
he's also kind of a weird dude, Like he's not like us. He's
not making pop culture references every five seconds either. But anyway, yes,
to listen to everybody else do so, let me get Zod at the Luther
Mansion and we get Callum Blew is coming in here now in small Ville.
The official magazine number thirty four available Reverb books just sold. Calum Blue had
this to say about saying the iconic words kneel before his zad, which he
does in the scene. Quote. You could definitely be scared of it.
I can't imagine how an actor playing James Bond comes across and says shake it,
not stirred or Bond, James Bond. It's a huge line, but
on the day I said it, so it's part of the scene and I
meant it. It's interesting because it came out not as confident as I thought
it would when I say it, I actually get over the head, so
as effective as it could be. But I'm sure I'll get to say it
in a better place, which he does down the road again. It's like
poetry at Ryan's bookends. That's so true because this is like you're you're walking
in on this and like, I really liked how Small used that line right
in Lesser Hands, like the Flash, and you get the movie and you
get Michael Keaton like, oh, he's gonna say that, He's gonna say
the things here it is here, it is, Yeah, I'm batman,
Like that's all. It's terrible at j J. It's it's just like looking
into the camera like, hey, you remember when I said this, and
we'll say it again. It's like, anyway, that's how you not do
it, and this is how you do it. I dug it though it
was Keaton. H okay, okay, but but they let's get nuts.
Oh no, that that one it that was no, not not the not
the mic trop that they thought was. That's for sure. Well that's that's
not even an iconic thing. That's just some random thing he said once.
Right, Yeah, anyway, Zon comes in. It's been three weeks and
I guess over the course of the truth, because you showed up naked on
the Luther lawn three weeks ago and looking like Sam. Yeah, it's looking
especially like Sam over. Yeah, and so he's he's been gathering people guns,
uh, clothes, fatigues, dog tags, big flags with a traveler
logo which, for lack of a better word on it, like, I
don't again, this is not connected at all to what we saw. I'm
what was set up for us. Everything turns out okay, but it's still
like, I don't, I don't know how we got here from there,
but we gotta we got to talk about some of these Ryptonians here, right,
So okay, Adrian Holmes, right, he's the black Kryptoian. Bass
Cat is apparently his name. I don't know if they ever say it on
the show, but you might know him better as Griff from Lexus or Captain
Pike from the Starling City Police Department. So, oh my god. Yeah,
so he must be a mainstay in Vancouver then. But you know,
as the show goes on for nine years, you know you've commented on the
show before, there's plenty of familiar faces, whether they mean to or not.
So I I take it as almost like they're watching themselves in a weird
way. Yeah, no, that doesn't bother me. It's just it's it's
just fun, especially with something so many years apart, such a radically different
character, right when it's characters like well, you just play two scientists,
you could have just been the same one. That's the stuff that bothers me.
But also we have Faiora here, because this is this is Faiora has
officially replaced Ursa everywhere, like Forsa, never to be talked of again.
Sharon Taylor plays Fayor here in a few episodes, uh season, plays the
mayor on Batwoman. So there you go, arrow verse continuation right there.
Oh okay, but I don't think obviously they bring the zadd thing around where
like his ghosts possess his old body and whatever. I liked how they probably
together. I didn't do it was it was fun. It's weird, yeah,
but I liked it. I'm like, good, you address the fact
you there must be two right, two zads. They never quite mentioned,
like like whatever happened to Fiora like secks for her because she was sure fear
of physical body. Younger one was dead too, right, But anyway,
I like how these guys are throughout the season, so it's not just like
there is this ridiculous army and I I'm gonna try and count them. I
have a picture here, I'm gonna try to count me get to the end.
But yeah, I like how these are like he has people he interacts
with and to the point where they'll start questioning him and like, hey,
why don't we have our powers? And I was going on here man,
He's like, you know, be full sup, right, and then they
just like like count Blue said, oh they just hit me over the head.
They knocked me out. And I like how there's like mutiny here.
Yeah, and it's believable too. You know, you can understand why they
would be that way, and you know it's that cabin fever of it,
right, you know. Hm, I mean, I'd just be happy a
guy phone his pants and boots and they all match. I guess id rated
some some military surplus story. Yeah, Like I was gonna say army surplus
or something. Let me okay, let me let me get into that for
a second. Like the the because he has to be the younger one,
right, the Major's off of it, at least until you know spoilers.
You know, he gets promoted towards the end. But what did you think
of that? Like, he's Major Zade throughout this whole season, as opposed
to we've always done him as General zadd. I like that because once he
quote unquote becomes General zadd like and everybody's understanding that's when he's like passed the
point in overturn. Okay, And this was like a whole like, hey,
he's younger, maybe there's a chance, like because that's kind of a
theme of the season, like Clark like trying to like, well, I
don't want him to turn to that guy from the future. Uh. And
like even Darrell, like his like his actual dad, Julian Sandebro is like,
hey, you save Zade because they were friends and so like, yep,
that gives you the like if he's just showed up his general zode like,
oh well there's the villain. It's done. But because he's major's odd.
It's like, well, he's young, and maybe we can change this.
So I liked that. That was a different Again, that's what makes
it work. It's a different angle than usual. You know what. You
turned me around because I was gonna say how much I didn't like it.
Well, yeah, you totally joined me around because I was really for I
was really like, I don't like it because it just reeks a prequel ship.
And then you said all that and I was like, oh, well
he actually put some thought into that, and all of that makes sense,
so I'm on board with it. There you go. We have Lois calling
Oliver. He's not answering. We saw that doctor Hamilton had his phone for
some reason. Yeah, so I guess that's plays on anything of him now.
But she's a returned to the scene of the crime of the train crash
and she finds the mask of the attacker. And then we have Brian Austin
Green make his appearance on Smallville, and Lois just assumes he's a cop for
some reason, just a guy in normal clothes all you must be a cop.
Uh, I think that, you know. I was okay with it
because I figured it was her like guilty conscience speaking a little bit, like
she knows, like she knows she's not supposed to be there, but she's
going there anyway because she's lowest freaking lane, you know. So when somebody
were to show up, it's like, I think she would rightfully assume it
was a it was a police officer or a detective, you know, rather
than a fellow reporter, because she's kind of egotistical enough to think she'd be
the only one there. She'd be the first one there, you know what
I mean? Yeah, I follow you. And do you know Brian Austin
Green from other things? I don't really. I was looking up his filmography
on IMDb and I was like, so, I guess I'm just stupid because
this man stayed off my radar until I saw this show, and then come
to find out he's a mainstay on Beverly Hills nine O two one oh,
along with the never watched it. So that's what everybody's like. Oh yeah,
I'm like, oh, share whatever. I know him from the Sarah
Connor chronicles. Oh right, okay, he was Kyle Reis's brother. I
saw only a few episodes of that, but I was on Twitter because I
was talking about the Terminator. I've been told to check it out. So
oh, it's great. I really enjoyed it. And it's funny because he
was on a terminator show and they brought him into be John Corby who drives
into Mentala and then nine two one oh they had a toy spelling there we
go hashtag it's all connected. But he's like, aren't you the reporter of
but missing three weeks ago? She's like, what are you talking about?
What day is it? Like they said it the show finally seven, I've
been making fun of them saying for years what day is it? Indeed,
because she pulls up a newspaper and it says September twenty fifth, two thousand
nine, which I'm like, Okay, they're doing the thing where the day
of the episode aired is the day it takes place. I'm like, okay,
fine, yeah, but then you forgot to take into account that you
said it was three weeks after the last episode, which means Doomsday was in
September of two thousand and nine, which I don't know if that contradicts anything
or not, but that really extends season you know, eight, quite a
bit because you know, back the old days of Small I was like three
months later, right right right, It's like, oh, okay, yeah,
you've been in Metropolis for three months on record of night got It?
Or when they picked up when on a cliffhanger and'd be like, okay,
we finished that one and now the school years started, so you knew exactly
where you were. But this was like, y'all did you think this through?
Like what like what month was dark Thursday? And in season five?
Now like I'm questioning everything. It's uh, you know, it's it's it's
like, uh was like thinking of friends when Emma was born, right,
Rachel's baby, because you know she's you know, born in May, but
it was at least a day old when they have the next episode in September
and has already been through a Thanksgiving before she was one, so I guessed
them. You know, it all kind of adds up, But you know
it's also just the I don't know. On the one hand, it's cooled
saying oh it's twenty five, it's Friday. Then you know, nerd brains
can go, that's the day of the show, you know. But uh,
I don't know why I was Mickey mouse there. I apologize, but
but but at the same time, like then my immediate next thought is no,
no, that's not okay. You can't just you can't just trick me
like that. That's not okay. I just like, oh no, Well,
then we can't have it take place like in May. It would be
dumb, like why like why couldn't it just why could this be June fifteenth
or you know, like yeah, and then and then maybe the next episode
is three months later or something, you know, And that's what they did
in season two. The Dead was in five like this, this, this
is what they do, right. I don't even I don't I don't recall
exactly what in season six seventh situation, well because once he was out of
school nothing, time didn't matter. But which which is kind of true to
life. Yeah, post post pandemic, who knows what day it is or
time it is? What day is it? Indeed, I'm not answering.
So they sprinkle in some like John Corby and like he's anti vigilante a little
bit, you know, it's kind of sprinkled that He's like, any think
they can go around do what they want, you know, ah, okay,
Like and then he mentions like, because Lois says the red blue blur
save me, He's like, well, there's no more red or blue,
just don't blur. It's like, okay, He's he's the blur now.
Yeah. And I just the number of times they say the blur is just
the word has no meaning anymore. I'm frisking this one episode. Did they
suggest blur for one of the flashest names? And the Flash the CW Flash?
They settle on the Red Streak, but I'm pretty sure they put blur
in there somewhere, and maybe I don't. I think you're right. But
my favorite line about the blur was was boost your Gold saying it it sounds
like a roller coaster, you know, you gotta come up with something else.
And I was like, that's pretty funny actually that I want to ride
the blur at six Flags. Oh man, I want to wear the blurring
Season nine a smoke though, but then then a real cop shows up,
so then Corbin kisses Lowest and so they can kind of get out of the
Oh hey, you if you want to join the mile along club. You
guys can pick the wrong train. I'm like, y'all, come on,
even this cons who's Who's Who's dad? Is this like? Get him out
of here? What a dad? I like Lois's reaction like to this.
They got out of the jam, and then she like, you know,
stumps on his foot to kind of say, hey, don't do that again.
I'm like, yeah, I don't. No, I agree with the
sentiment, but that sound effect was cringey as hell. Yeah, I mean
he's four of his toes are broken now, yeah, he can no longer
walk, but he just kind of smiles. And I was like, uh,
there's some sort of misjudgment here, and look like this this is where
the whole the whole step on me terminology comes to mind. But oh boy,
it's uh somebody. We go back to the Watchtower and doctor Hamilton is
like, well, Oliver might be gone, but I can use all his
money. Apparently that's scary, Like if I have my personal posician, I
don't want just taking over my life when I'm gone, you know, because
he's just he works for him, but he doesn't need Yeah, it was
a little questionable, but you know, Chloe doesn't care She's like, yeah,
I got all my computer stuf up again. Yeah, this and this
is the other new Chloe shot, and the opening credits are just like,
oh, all the computers. That is a cool shot too. It is
because it's likely it's a cool I like the Watchtower set. It's a cool
set. I'm glad. I like it because we're here a lot for the
next two years. Ye right, oh yeah yeah. But why did they
just why did they just make doctor Hamilton a main character? I don't I
don't know, because I really liked, uh, you know, I liked
these interactions with Chloe, but I but I also really liked you know,
when she was like, I don't really know to say, and he says,
you know, I prefer we just get to work, or I being
more comfortable if we just got to work. That's just there's something really kind
of cute and weird about that that seemed to fit those two characters, like
we we we get their relationship just enough to jump back into the plot.
You know, Well, I think you need people like that, like different
points of view, in different like ways of speech. Like I'm like,
because when everybody's the same, like Lois and Cole you're the same they're talking
about, Like Creature from the Black Lagoon was at least like like this guy
at least he's he's a little different and like he could add something like I'm
not saying every episode, like it's nine episodes, right, like just making
us put another face in those opening credits, right, mister Gaeta from BSG,
who doesn't love him Alisander Zack Snyder's a big fan. Put him a
Man of Steel? Yeah, yeah, what's the other Doctor Hamilton's He's also
in a Watchman in like yes, the director's cut exactly. So anyway,
uh, you know, speaking of main characters and contract actual links, I
did want to mentioned something about Erica Durance this season because her episode account has
gone up in small Ville. The Offisher magazine number thirty four, available wherever
books are sold, there's an interview with Erica Durance about this quote. Durance
had previously been contracted for thirteen episodes per season, and apparently that number has
been increased to eighteen for the renewed season nine, and Erica Durance has this
to say quote that allows her to breathe more and be part of the big
or the a storyline because they're not limited to what they can do with Lois
then have to create a logical reason for her to be gone seven episodes.
They really freed up our writers to be able to let her grow into becoming
the classic Lois Lane as an actor. I love that. That's why I'm
doing this. I'm very excited for this season. Absolutely like it was.
It was so obvious, like in season eight, she's just gone for stretches
of time and it's like, why you here for some stupid double like there
can't be two Lois Lanes. People are going to be confused. Returns just
three years ago. Nobody even knows there's two Los Lanes anymore. So that
was great. They expanded her episode count long overdue, and then she finally
I think it's to be in every episode in season ten. Yes, it
was to the detriment of her character, and she himself explains, so,
yeah, they had to make her not I'm almost doing sibling stuff on the
side. I can't be in a serious plotline because I can't be here,
and just I hate that about what they did with her character. And finally
she's here to stay for for most of the season. Yeah, and who
doesn't want more lowest late, especially the way Erica Durance was playing her at
the time. Yeah, you know, pitch perfect, and it's it's the
Metropolis years of the show, Like this is a Superman now, Like it's
not a prequel anymore. We're just doing the show, like doing Superman story
early on the show. Yeah. But back to doctor Amilton, who also
should have been the opening credits in my opinion, give that man some more
episodes. That's where I thought of that quote there. But they start talking
about the rips in the temporal aperture continuum and I'm like, what you mean
the space time continuum. I didn't watch Start Track my whole life to be
thrown out these new terms. But Chloe's like, I've never said this before.
Can you dom that down? Like, looy, I know you were
brainiac last year, but you don't know everything. Yeah, let's just chill
just a little bit. Yeah, but they see how they were two you
know, basically time quarrels that came and hit that train, and they're like,
oh, so, whoever whoever Lois was, someone followed her back because
Chloe tells Hamilton that she came back from the future from the future, and
then we cut to what's her name the ndijaz As and girl, yeah,
and she sees one of the flyers of Lois and then burns over her he
vision and then I'm like, oh, wait a minute, she had her
power as this whole time. Yeah, I thought the exact same thing.
I was like, okay, so she didn't for a minute on the train,
what's going on here? Yeah? Yeah, So that's just that's just
to remind you of that threat she poses to yes, of would she run
off and the train crash? Like you were looking for Clark the whole time
he was right there. Well, she didn't think that through, and that
was how embarrassing for you? Like, no, wonder you were lower on
the totem pol there. Yeah, you're expandable. Why don't you go through
the time portal? Okay, anyway, look, I love time travel.
I just really wanted to make sense and I'm I'm really worried that it's not
gonna add up when we get we get to the fifth season finale, so
we cut the commercial, we come back and we get Zodd and tests and
this kind of sets up their entire relationship for the whole season. I think
it's great and in small with the official magazine number thirty four available wherever magazine
is just sold. Calm Blue has this to say about the dynamic between Zodd
and Tests. But I definitely want to keep with the fact that she's still
a human. It's like if you went to the zoo and saw one particular
monkey, he seems to be a bit more intelligent than the rest, where
there's still a monkey. He except that way, but Test keeps on surprising
him. Zob is fascinated by her in a way you would be by an
intelligent monkey. At the moment, there's that sexual thing going on, which
is weird for him to say after saying all that monkey stuff, this spect
something going on, but that might be changing, she defined. She definitely
surprises him, like I was with his analogy after that point and I was
like, wait a minute, but no, like this wholes the power play,
which into him, like what they're doing on it's all set up here
and it's all set up really nice, and she's like, wait a minute,
you were their leader. They don't trust you anymore. And then he
gets met you can see, like you said, the insecurity, right,
he starts like twitch and stuff, and they're both like psychoanalyzing each other.
He's like, oh, you're used to abuse. That just makes you more
obstinate. Like, I don't know, I really enjoyed all these scenes with
between the two of them, and I think their characters work together very well
throughout the rest of the season. It's all set up here. I totally
agree. And it's it's such a different dynamic, you know, because she
really didn't get to interact with Lex or even with like, yeah, with
Davis in the previous season, right, you know, so she she just
blew them up with that remote control we saw, Yeah, she had like
one episode with him and then it's so it's nice to see the you know,
I don't know, like why less the test is still in the picture
to uh be a is she an ally? She a threat? And I
think she's selling that really really well. And and plus like you know,
it's just awesome to see her have the balls to stand up to Zade,
you know, and and and and look at her face. It's like I
feel bad for you know, like she was tortured. Yeah, she's been
beat up and held captain for three weeks and her security team was like,
whoa, you told us not the interview. Man, I'm like, you're
all fired. I don't know, man, Like I didn't think it was
gonna go last far. Yeah, but she's like, hey, you're not
the same voice from the ORB. Who was that? Yeah that's a good
question. No one knows. Uh, that's correct. Yeah, that's thanks
show. Like I would like to know who that was too. But anyway,
and then we get you know a lot of the shots of Zad and
her from this scene where he like slams her on the ground after she tries
to choke him and all that. So anyway, yeah, good stuff.
So then now we get Clark on the roof of the Daily Planet and Chloe
comes down. I was like, oh, well, I've been trying to
call you for three weeks, but then low it shows up as predictable.
It's clockwork. I'm like, whoa, Chloe, Okay, let me let's
tell your role here. Why are you now petty jealous of your cousin?
I thought, well, like, why, like, it's it's a bad
color on you, Chloe. Well you know, but I kind of I
can kind of see her point of view, because you know, I mean,
Clark had basically been ghostinger for weeks, but then low shows up and
he's like desperate zero again. Yeah, she should be used to this.
This is nothing new, Like it's just like she's so petty and jealous all
the time. It's just it's it's I don't know, I really saw it
uncloye. So yeah, I don't blame you. And honestly, like they
had this this conversation has the vibe of like you're talking to an X who
like you're in you're cool with each other now, but you don't you can't
talk to each other anymore. They're like, yes, yes, you had
to move on. And it's just, you know, that's a weird vibe
this conversation, you know what I mean. And I think they I think
that's deliberate and I think they pull it off really well too. And yeah,
there's there's a there's a a very subtle tension, just enough for us
as the audience to be uncomfortable and they're kind of uncomfortable. But then when
it's time to get to work, they can get to work. Yeah,
no, no, that does work. It's much it's much fun we're having
At the beginning of the conversation, like I think she's like, yeah,
I was I was very happy and fortunate to be in your life for the
limited time amount of time I was, and you had to move on.
I'm like, okay, like this is this one. But Clark tells her
like I came back to say goodbye, and she's like, well, if
you have the chance, because someone's going killer that took a turn, you're
gonna lead with that. Chloe, Yeah, Koe, get to the point.
You tell Lois is the future. Tell Clark there's someone out here to
Lois. He keeps dragging off these conversations, but I think that does she
even show Clark, like the mask or something. I don't think that's what
she I think I think she does show him. Yeah, yeah, anyway,
which I don't know how she got that, but whatever, Well,
Lois left it with the lesion ring at the hospital. That's right, that's
right, that's right. Yeah, which I was like, I thought they
were going to test the mask and find out it's like from the futures that
they did nothing with the mask. There's techions all over it, the particle
anyway, So Clark's like, oh, well, now he's been called to
action. I need to I need to stay here and and and save lois
from whoever this attacker is, right, m So then we cut to Oliver
doing like a cage fight. Yeah, and I guess this is I guess
this is what he does plus one for shirtless Oliver. By the way,
Ah, so he's getting his ass beat in this case that the green Arrow
is getting his ass beat by these street fighters. Did you have a problem
with that? Jj? It seeing that he's just like really drunken, looks
like he's in I mean the way justin Hartley's playing it. At least it
looks like he's in bad shape, even though physically it's like good god man.
But but yeah, it's like and I also think he's kind of he's
taking the punishment he thinks he deserves it. Yeah, Well, in a
small ville The Fisher Magazine number thirty four, Villa wherever magazines are sold.
Brian Pierson had to say about Oliver in his situation this season. Quote,
the thing we've really enjoyed about the Oliver Queen character is that if you look
into the comics, he is a pretty messy past Oliver canympathize with people because
he's gotten his hands durty in a way. Clark and Superman never really have.
He can relate to a whole section of society that's been off Clark's radar.
So we are bringing that seed underworld a metropolis back to the show this
year. And I was like, was that this like with the Ques?
You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess, and I don't know.
Clearly they don't know what that means because he's Wolverine. Now he's going
fighting people in bars and stuff. Right. Yeah, anyway, Lewis has
snuck her way in, so I'm gonna cut this is a plus from for
Lowis's costume closet because she's got her like, you know, a little uh
what do you call the girls walking around with the signs? Oh, I
don't remember. There's a name for the there is. I was gonna say
star, right, but he's like hello, legs right, and she's like
legs really like I like her whole vibe here and this is this is the
most thing to do, Like you're steaking into something like your boys club and
let me in. So I had to improvise kind of thing and I left.
She pulls all of HER's side starts talking to them, and then some
dudes like, hey, lady, she just gives him. Then it's like,
hey, we gotta move on with this fight here, right right.
But she's telling him, like you know him, like hey, I need
a hero here, and and and this sort of thing. And then the
inn this car like comes through the wall, and again my mind is like,
oh, she doesn't have her powers, so she drove this car through
a wall. But then she walks through the thing. I'm like, okay,
I guess she picked up and through the car. You know what I
mean? Like this, yeah, yeah, it's it's extremely inconsistent and it's
kind of pissing me off. It didn't it didn't look like a car was
thrown. It looked like someone drove through the wall, right, So I
guess I guess she pushed it. Maybe I don't know. But Cartonians like
Jedi now because like she she's she her heat vision powers up. She's gonna
Kio Lois, it seems, and she senses Clark behind her, so her
heat vision powers down. She's oh, yes, the presence I've not felt
since. And then she's like I was never after Lois. I watch you.
I'm like, okay, do you know that's him? You sure?
It's like, uh, but also why yeah. But you know the best
part about all this is like Clark grabs him the super Speed away, he
still leaves the symbol here. I thought that too. He's like, he's
like they're in super Speed. He's just like, hang on, hang on,
you're gonna love it. You're gonna love this. You're gonna love this.
Check this out. But they lowis like smirks up at it. You're
like, oh, it's him, you know, I yeah, sure,
okay, I guess she's right up on the papers about what he's been doing.
And right right, it's it's a very lowesting reaction and Superman saved the
day. I like the reaction. It's just like it's so funny. They're
like, oh, well, yes, it's the blur, and she she
just goes with it immediately because to her, it's like the next day from
well what September what do we say, September Simber fourth, three weeks ago.
Yeah, so okay, sure, yeah, it's just I don't know,
man, Like it's like Batman, Brandy criminals and Superman burning esses into
things and like, I don't know, yeah, it's it's it's cool.
All the kids are doing it. Yeah, but you know, like in
BBS, it was like Batman, You've gone too far. It's like right,
and this is and this is supposed to be like yeah, Superman's arrived
in Metropolis. Yeah, it's it's it's something that was an historical mind ement.
You ask, So Clark superspeeds her back to the Kent Barn yea,
and not only that, throws her through the wall himself to cause destruction to
his own home. Yeah. Well you know he's not human anymore, so
that that's right, there's nothing nothing human left in him. Yeah. But
like, other than them having this set j J, why why are we
here? I would assume it's to just get her as far away from anyone
as possible, and that's home field advantage. Hey, you know you know
where I would have taken her, the Fortress of Solitude. Well you know
our Clark, isn't that right? You know? Yeah, he couldn't have
accidentally killed her on some farm equipment and there could we but no, exactly,
Yes, so we get this whole thing of like why do you want
to kill it? Like he's pissed, right, and it's just because you
betrayed us, And he's like, wait a minute, that's my father's watch
and he holds he holds up the watch. Yeah, and it's show and
tell that storytelling because you clearly see the date. It's a year in the
future. But he's like, these watches, it's the same date, but
a year in the future. I don't know. Maybe Tomblin's getting paid by
the word and he's like, guys, I don't have enough in this scene.
No. I think some studio was like, well, they're not gonna
understand unless you're say I under show it. But like, I'm convinced they
had no idea where this was going, Like they went into Hadle's intrigue,
right, He's like, how do you because you know he still has his
father's watch. It's like an ongoing thing throughout the show. And I respect
the part with the prop contuity. That's real cool. Although if I was
something I cherished like that, I don't think I'd keep it with me all
the time. And I'm fighting like criminals and monsters can easily get destroyed,
right yeacause it does in the future because it's cracked, you know, right
right, And he's like, how did you get this? And it's like
supposed to be some big mysteries, like you gave it to me, and
then we find I do remember that, like he gives it to her,
so they don't kill Lois or something in the picture. Yeah, but the
way they imply it here was like they had some camaraderie, and then right
like that, it's played totally different here. I'm so convinced they had not
thought any of the throat no, because it because he even kind of looks
at her like why would I do that? You know, like it's it
just was a strange choice. Yeah, it's it's it's strange, so amazing
technicolor kryptonite plus one because she throws down on that blue kryptonite and again,
in my head, candidates, it's been coming in and out of that lad
pouch. I assume the whole time. That's why she's from power Strings.
Yeah, yeah, good enough. But Clark's all confused, like we're from
the same world, kellel and this is my only chance of defeating you.
I did like this is a good strategy because it's like, Okay, me
versus him, he's gonna beat me. We're superpowered, but if we're not,
he doesn't know how to fight. I was a sword for some reason.
Yeah, he travels back in time for some reason. Is this weird
trend with the blue Kryptonite though that they keep doing? They do in the
season finale too, like that even though they don't have their powers, they
still have some matrix powers. You know, she does like that backflip.
I'm like, Okay, that's not you can't do that as a human,
right, Yeah, but it is. It was the It was the playground
scene in Daredevils, which I defended. I like it a lot. That's
a bad scene, yes, I agreed, But no, it's like poetry
at rhymes because the blue Kryptonite thing is the fight between Zad and Clark and
the finale, which is my favorite fight on the Shield, my favorite episode
of the show. Really, yeah, this is not a finale, and
I think this is a pretty good fight, right, what do you think
here in the barn? Yeah? I like it because I I like that
Clark. Yeah, you know, Clark kind of office game a little bit.
You know. He said he has to kind of improvise and he has
to think on his feet because he hasn't always been good at that, you
know. But I feel like by this, by this point in his career.
He's, uh, it's it's coming across it. He's he's learning and
he's he's figuring out like, okay, don't have my powers. How am
I gonna How am I gonna do this? And it and I appreciate it
that Like I felt, like I said earlier, I that this Clark seems
to now finally be learning, right, you know, he gets to he's
improving as a fighter, which is good. He's I'm gonna assume he had
some hand to hand combat trade which are uh yeah, yeah, maybe maybe
after talking to him about the doomsday fell like, yeah, man, didn
I didn't even throw off a punch, like he canna canna help me?
Trained me up with? This goes to Drell like rubbing his shoulders, start
clock getting there. It was. It was cool and funny at the same
time to see Clark Hugh's farm equipment versus the ninja sword. Yeah yeah,
he's I don't know, but you know, he seemed capable. He seemed
like, like you said, off his game, but still like capable and
like, okay, cool cool, And of course, through a series of
you know, unfortunate events, she hits a thing, that hits another thing
and then pillows herself on the sword and he's not responsible. There's no blood
on his hands, right, right, But is that classic? Like Oh,
I fell on my weapon because the thing hit me and now I'm dead
and she's like I'm so sorry. I'm like what yeah, but from what?
Like oh? She also says Early like he's like, why are you
gonna? What are you after me? He's like, because you destroy our
world. I'm like, so this is all so vague and it's so taking
out of context. It's like this is this is some jj abrams stuff for
going to you know, mystery Box bs. It's the writing. It's the
writing of the mystery box without writing the ending. And he's just notorious for
that, even going back to like Alias. Right, I'm sure they did
stuff like that on Felicity too, but I don't know mystery Box on Felicity.
It's just irritating. Like, you know, I took a playwriting class
and you know, the teacher was talking about, you know, writing mysteries
because that's what she likes to write. And she's like, I have to
know the ending first, though, you know, because otherwise because everything can
build to that, because that's the most important part. And it was sort
of like obvious, but also like, yeah, that doesn't make a lot
of sense, doesn't it. And when these shows and movies do these mystery
box things, like you know, when talking about the Terminator stuff earlier,
like Terminator Genesis was just this whole big two hour mystery box that was like,
well, well, we'll tell you in the sequel. He's like,
no, idiot, tell me now, those finals are not accessible by you.
Yeah, it's just so ridiculous. Was when I was rewatching and I
was like, you know what, this this stuff in the Change nineteen eighty
four. This is the best part of the movie. Like they should have
just kept this going. What is worse, Terminator Genesis or Terminator Dark Fate.
I'd go Genesis, I agree because the recasting everyone is awful. Yeah,
Like, I'm sorry Denaris Yea and Captain Boumrang, you guys are not
Sarah Connor and kyleish And but they're both to me, those are both the
worst Terminator movies. But at least, at least in Terminator Dark Fate the
first two movies happen. Yeah, like like what you would you fail to
understand when Terminator Genesis fell to understand. It's like, oh, you guys
didn't like the third and fourth one, we'll ignore those. We'll also go
back in time and erase the first and second. So it's like, no,
you're you're you're almost learning the right lesson, but you're still getting like
a D plus. Like because I like the very opening of Genesis. I
like they're like Judgment Day nineteen twenty seven and you see the purple lasers and
the I'm like, oh, this is this is what I wanted the whole
time. And then like fifteen minutes later it's his bunch of bs like Skynet
is Genesis, Like are you doing? He's talking to himself in the mirror,
and I'm like, And then the way he explains it to him at
the end of the film, I was just like, you shut up.
You shut all the way up right now. That is not okay. Arnold's
a two one thousand at the end. Yeah, it's like, just just
let him die, man, let him die. I don't know, man
like I I will tell you I really liked him of Your Salvation. So
tonight, that's the movie I always wanted. It was the future movie.
Yeah, if it just looked like dark and purple lasers, you know,
and then you know that's the case of like this the kind of b as
they do today all the time. It makes everybody mad, right, one
of this is one of the first cases when they had the c gionod source
and Ator teen hundred at the end. Yes, I was like, that's
perfect, that's fine. Like he first of all, hear a robot,
he's he's he's supposed to look fake, you know, if you really want
to go down that road, like you don't have fake. He looked in
the first terminator with the rubber point full the eye out, but you hear
that, you hear the terminator theme and he's fighting. I'm like, that
was so excited. I don't know. I really enjoyed it for what it
was. And it's appropriate because like, yeah, they're making that terminator like
anyway, yeah, that anyway, it's but it did something different too,
like Terminator three. It came out, but Terminatoo three, Terminator Genesis,
and Dark Fate make Terminator three look like Terminator two, you know, yeah,
and Terminator three is just this really weird, like you know, we
we have the property and we have to do something with it. It's like
you you don't though, Yeah, it's it's okay if you don't, or
what years it just make your future war movie, like you get wha,
it's it's two thousand and three. We have we this is September twenty fifth,
two thousand and nine. Right, So there's there's some good like a
well, there's some good like emotional bits and stuff in it, but you
know, it's I and I think the ending is bold, you know,
uh small small those are like the ending of Terminator three. The title,
you know, I it's funny. I was listening to the movie Film podcast,
you know Zekissan. I think I think he's a mutual friend. He
uh. He was talking about that and how he's like, I'm pretty sure
they show that nuclear arm shot in Smallville and Lexi's a vision of himself as
the president, and I was like, not just there, my friend,
Yeah, multiple times, multiple times. Yeah. I think the biggest problem
in Terminy three is like the recasting John Connor and then like the no Sarah
Connor, and then it's and then it's like it's all in the daytime for
some reason, isn't it. It's it's just like we can't it's cheaper shooting
the days, so they just I don't know, like it's it's it's harmless,
I guess. At the same time it's like unnecessary, and but in
retrospect it's like, I don't know, it's there's a lot worse Terminator movies
out there than Terminator three. You can do a lot worse, I guess,
and versuspect, but anyway, it's true. Yeah, oh man,
And I always like, wait a minute, what did you was it the
sunflowers and like lex seen into the World? Oh yeah, yeah, because
they in the mixing and matching all that stuff at some point, I think,
I think we we joke about it, but I think we see the
Terminator three footage twice. Yeah, and we see it in season four and
season seven. But the White House footage they mix in there as well is
from season one, and that's where it tricks you. So anyway, yeah,
always on a Terminator. Yeah, I mean we got time travel and
all. There's a precedent for us talking about this. Yeah, Cripple lightning
came out of the sky from It's Assassin from the feature. Okay, oh
so there you go. Yeah, this woman killed herself and clark Berries are
in the back of the farm because we see a shovel later, So I
guess that's war, which which I thought. I was, like, what
an uncomfortable day. How are you gonna feel every time you walk by that?
Clark god get buried on the back forty has been Hubbard's problem. Now,
yeah, they arrested Ben Hubbard for this body they found feel I'd never
seen it before in my life. So, oh, do you think Clark
kept both those watches? No, that's great. If he ever loses his
dad's watch, he has a backup. That's fantastic. Yeah, he just
has to remember that it's a except for a year in the future. No,
you just you wind it up, you change the date, and then
you get the watch base replaced like the glass solid. Well yeah, well
there you go. One can stay in the safe and you know, it's
like it's like collectibles, right ones for the packaging and once wants to play
with exactly exactly. So do we have Lois patching up Oliver. She tries
to hype him up. They make some jokes about her being an X and
he's like, yeah, you're not like the rest. I'm still trying to
get you back in my bed. I'm like, oh, Oliver's so edgy.
I'm like, you know, I really shipped you guys for a couple
of years. I'm kind of over that now, So can we just move
on from this? Like yeah, anyway, I don't know, Like this
is her just kind of trying to get him back into the game basically,
and I guess it works. Yeah, And it's I don't know, just
as hardly for as kind of drunken stupid as he's supposed to be coming off,
he's not coming across that way. So him saying so him saying that
line like oh, I haven't gotten you back in my bed yet, it
was a little bit like, all right, I feel like you're just being
a dick, Like, yeah, you need to be way more under the
influence of something. He's saying that, Like, I want to see full
Kevin from this is us, Right, You're not quite there yet, right,
So that's where we leave all of them. I honestly don't remember the
next time we see him this season. It could be the next episode.
I don't know. I know at some point they run into Roulette and that
gets him back on the right path of Chloe, and that starts their whole
thing. That's that's what I know. Well even before that is the toy
man of course, of course, and he's burning his suit in an alley
somewhere, right, yeah, yeah, what are we doing? What are
we doing with scar? So? Yeah, we cut back to Luther matching,
and I guess they decided to put Zod and Tests on trial or something.
I'm really sure what's going on here? Yeah, some sort of people's
court. Yeah, the chairs, like the spotlight on him, like the
light design like literally these guys, right, yeah, and they're in a
whole other show. It really is, It really is, so Fiora and
and uh Captain Pike, they're they're still like asking the same like, hey,
they're supposed to be hundred of us, there's only dozens, Like what's
going on here? And they Tests is trying to like play them against Zod,
and Zod sees that and kind of respects that, and he basically like,
well, well, also what very important put him information? Fayori says,
like last thing we all remember is our blood was taken before the Battle
of Candor. I'm like okay here, like this plot, like when they
reveal all the mysteries, it actually all makes sense, yes, yes,
unlike the other one, like this mystery box has a payoff and we'll talk
about that when the time comes. But like all this stuff they sprinkle in
here, I'm like, oh, that actually tracks when we when we see
it happen. I like that. I respect that. Yeah. But then
Zod gets up and just chokes Captain Pike and kind of takes back control of
the room. And he I mean, good for him, right, He's
like, he's like, do you want a lada who would go out and
such for you at a aust what? Like? He wins the crowd back
over right, And I and this you really kind of sees a charismatic guy
and you can you can buy why all these people serve him and follow him.
I'm like, this is great. This is very character establishing, and
they need a great job with this whole him like winning back the crowd so
to speak. Yeah, no, I agree, And it was and it
was a really good speech too, right. I believed that they would fall
back in line, you know, because like I just found like you know,
when when Tess was talking and and they're all just kind of look at
each other like, oh, what do we trust this woman or not,
and I just remember thinking, like, dude, test, that was terrible.
Like, you know, they'll be on your side for about eight seconds
before they start poking holes in your story. So when when Zog stands up
and just basically is like, you know, I'm I am your leader,
I've been your leader. I'm going to continue being your leader, like I've
saved all of your lives. Right in the quest I'm buying with this guy
selling Yeah, it's like you know what, I'm following him too. You
know, it's like you said, he's very charismatic. And this is the
side of odd we have never really seen, right the hero the pe because
you always hear about he was this great hero and it's great, everybody loved
him, and but we always see the other side of that. And this
is why it's good to see major zat JJ. Yeah, yeah, you're
right, and I'm on board right now. And there's some great camera work
too. Here. It's like kind of like I don't know, it's moving
around and it's like at certain angles I don't know, like I really like
for some reason, Luther Ranchon looks like the apocalypse happened, by the way,
I don't know why it's all like green and shaky. Like I said,
it's a different show. It's really And if you look at some of
these shots, you see the spotlight. You literally see the spotlights. Ye,
they found up on the trusses. It's very strange. Yeah. Now,
I I'm looking at a screen shot here because I have to do this,
not the last on a crypton thing, right that I do. Okay,
I knew the season was gonna be a problem because there's so many Cantorians,
right, but I'm looking at the screen shot. I'm gonna count one,
two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
nine ten. I've been twelve thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,
four five thirty looks like thirty one. We're gonna go with that for
now. That will be an evolving, changing number. But I knew,
like when I did this, I was dreading this season and I'm like,
well, all like it's like a one hundred of these guys come up an
orb. There'll be another white shot somewhere, I know. Let down the
road. Like the very end, he's like Neil before Kalel that big scene
at the end of the finale, like I'll do another count then, but
I don't know what we'll see where you go with that. But but no,
he went to the room and then he doesn't little he looks over his
shoulder. He turns to mister Fantastic and he smiles as tests and its last
smile there that I always thought was a great bit too, because it just
yea, you you get their dynamic right away, like the way she thinks
she has him on the ropes and then he's got her in the ropes.
But but they're not neither one of them are angry with the other, right,
they're just sort of like like, oh okay, so that's how it
is, you know. Yeah, It's just it's so refreshing because the dynamic
we haven't seen on the show before, and we've already we've already come to
love and no Tests, like they did real good job with her in season
eight, like especially Cassidy Freeman. I said that every time, but like
she's the new Lex, but now like it's a whole new ballgame now,
so like she she's established, so she she she's not a new and even
Zad's not even a new character. Really, I mean, he is,
but he's not. So like this this helps with all this going on.
So this is they've laid some great ground work here. Moving forward to me
come back to the Kent Farm and like we're talking about, Clark is coming
in from buried the Body and sin Alverard's property to frame him from murder.
You know, Clark, Tom Willie's doing a really kind of detached kind of
performance here and like that works, like he's you know, it's you can
tell it's a different Clark than than what we've seeing and he's doing a good
job there. But because because Chloe's here and they're here to talk about,
you know, what happened. And she's like, well, what's what's what
was the deal? And Clark's like, yeah, she said I caused it
in the world, yeah Chloe. Chloe's like, well what does she know?
And he's like the future. It's like yeah, this is well that's
it's pretty solid. I mean, can't argue with that one. But but
here we come we come to it, like Chloe's here to ask Clark to
go back in time to use the ring and save Jimmy. And to your
point, JJ, they fumbled the set up for this entirely. Yeah,
but at the same time, I I still buy that she would ask this
at this point, you know, So, yeah, they fumbled the set
up, but I still found this scene to be really, really great,
and it gives, you know, Tom and Allison something different to do because
usually they are very buddy buddy and here they're just you know, they're they're
just you know, hair away from just never speaking to each other again.
No, that's true. It is because we've spent so much time with these
characters. There's some real weight and emotions between them. So the scene doesn't
really work. And you know, and to be fair like it never occurred
to me until you brought it up, like, oh, they missed the
opportunity. You need that shot of Chloe picking up the ring in the hospital,
like looking at at it, and you can kind of see her come
like, I'm gonna ask Clark to do this, Yes, because of course
if you had a time machine, she's gonna ask Clark to save Jimmy.
Right. She's like, it's our fault, he said. I'm like,
whoa, Chloe, slow your role It is a thousand percent you're a fault.
Your husband is dead because you chose to gaslight him and pick the alien
werewolf monster over him. Let's be rich. Like, let's so, you're
really trying to put this on Clark. I don't Clark feels guilty for everything
he does. Oh yeah, so sure, I get it right, but
don't like lean into that, but don't put Clark. Don't put that on
this on Clark. He tried to get rid of Davis so many time you
took away his phantom zone, Crystal. He was going to send him off
to the phantom zone, and you're like, come on, Davis, let's
go. He's being mean. I'm like, this is anyway. I very
disappointed in Chloe and her choices on and off the show, frankly, but
dare you. I love how he snaps at her, you know, like
I'm not a god, Like you can't ask me to do that. And
I find I found it really kind of refreshing because it's it's Clark. You
know, He's always happy to use his powers to help Chloe out, Like
in the the one episode he like you know, melted all the snow on
her commute to work, right, you know, like he's he's always like
looking out for and stuff. He pull those clouds away that time so they
could go to Clark. Remember it was great, right, but it's it's
nice in this situation for him to say, like, you know, you
can't just use me as you're kid out a GEO free card, right,
you know. It's I found there to be a really like strong, like
emotional reality to that, Like hundred percent get where Chloe's coming from. But
I also respected Clark for putting his foot down and saying, no, I
can't do that, and and here's a really damn good reason why I can't
because I did and it you know, now we're in the darkest time whine.
No, it totally tracks like for him to go back to that every
time about he's like time travel. Like he's even even gets mad at Booster
Gold later in the show and he's like, I messed around the time my
dad died and like, yeah, like it's not a hypothetical, it's like,
no, I did this and something the worst thing ever happened. Yeah,
and I'm not doing it again. I totally buy that he would have
this stance about it, right, and that's very consistent. So she's like,
I've given up so much and I've never asked you to do anything.
I'm like, Chloe, I'm sure you've asked him to do something before.
And again no, you're right, though, I understand I understand why she
would ask this, Yes, yeah, but I don't like how she's all
like this is all your fault too, and I've never asked for anything.
You're the it's like you're really overplaying your hand if you want him to help
you. Yeah, it's it's very h it's just so like manipulative and narcissistic
almost like yeah, you know, like well, everything I've done for you,
it's like okay, well like like come on and and and you know,
let's face it, you know, like Season eight kind of proved it,
like Chloe has sacrificed a lot for Clark. But at the same time,
it's like you can't, you know, you can't do that. You
can't you can't just take advantage of what he can do or the connections he
has, you know, it's like it's you know, it's it's just kind
of it's it's a little too much. And maybe that was the real Alice
and Matt coming through just a little bit there. Well, it's good that
he's embracing his toonian side because there really isn't anything human left in him anymore.
J J. What a burn. Just she got him and and I
love that. He just kind of reacts like, well, yeah, you
know the way out feel. So then we go back to the Luther mansion.
The Cantorians have all left, and security guard George is like, well,
man, you told us not to interfere in or any circumstances. She's
like, oh, yeah, I'll bet you guys enjoyed that home. Like
god, it was it was a strangely like just a strangely vibe scene.
I don't know, Like it was just I'm like, are we supposed to
have? Is there supposed to be a dynamic here that we don't know about?
You all hate each other? Yeah, you're just employees. Yeah.
It was just it was a it was a very strange like like I don't
know, like you said, like, well you're all fired, like you
know kind of a thing. But at the same time, like it's almost
like we needed that scene. We needed her talking to them and saying,
you know, don't don't interfere under any circumstances, and then them like you
know, eating popcorn, watching her kidting beat up or something making fun of
her or something, because otherwise it's just just like, oh, there's a
lot of stuff we're supposed to assume here, but but I can't focus on
that because that that damn flag is gone and everything's fine now in luther Mansion.
Yeah they went to printing out those flags, but yeah, like the
fatigues, even the dog tags, like, but the flag. Okay.
But anyway, this is the and I think all this is why we have
this weird three week time period, not like three months, not like one
week. It's it's like, wait, so Tess was like in a room
for a week for three weeks, right, Yeah, you can't have her
capture for three months and then because it's like how does Luther Coorp? Even
function when she's not there? And but they don't want to make it too
short because they want to have some time because Clark has to be to have
doing his thing. It's funny they all say a few weeks a lot in
this episode, Like I'm like, y'all, three weeks, Yeah, that's
really at the bare minimum, a few weeks, Like like, anyway,
to me, a few weeks is like a month and a half at least.
But I think this is where they all get hung up. We're like,
they have all these story ideas they want to do, but they can't
show how we got where we are, so they just have some weird time.
Like you said, like we didn't see any of the setup for this,
which white feels. The resolution feels real weird and unbalanced and completely because
we didn't see the set up. But right, and as I recall,
we lose security guard George this season. He's I think he gets skilled by
a zombie. I think, yeah, because that's a real episode that happens.
Yeah, because he's he's been around since the Lionel days of pouring out
for George coming up, right, But he's got all that video surrealience.
We'll be We've been going through these hours of footage man, and oh wait,
it's all gone, Oh no, how did this happen? And she's
like, I guess since they travel galaxies, they can hack our computer system,
like, oh, I'll allow it. That's fine, I guess even
though the technology on Krypton or Krypton as a calum Blue keeps calling it is
all crystals, So but sure, you know what, fine, I can
I can buy it because they're like a trained military unit, and even when
we see them later in the season, they clearly have been around for a
while, so they seem very capable circumstances. Yeah, so I can I
can kind of buy it. I just like the test finally install some cameras
in this Luther mansion and like Lex, like Clark has been doing things there
for years, and the only place Lex seems as a camera is in a
lot of his bedroom. You know, well, if you had to pick
one place, like there's how many times does Clark run through those hallways or
like every episode of seasons like five, six and seven, good in my
shafe, I don't know, you don't have a camera on it anyway.
So then we get the lowest at the Daily Planet. She can't walg in,
yeah, because she's been a wall for three weeks and she's been fired.
Of course she can't walg in, of course. And then we hear
the we hear the little squeaky chair, yeah, and it's like, oh,
it's like poetry and rhyme. She's like, oh Clark, no,
it's cop John Corbyn. Right, Yeah, she still thinks he's a cop.
Yeah, And it was just a I did think it was cute that
she had kind of the same smile, thinking it was Clark that when she
saw the s you know, so it's like, you know, it's like
just like a nice little continuity on Erica's part, like, oh, she's
she really loves them, even subconsciously she knows. Yeah. Yeah. But
John Corbyn, he's like, I'm a field reporter spent some time in Afghanistan
because it's the early two thousands, and that's what everybody did, regardless of
your career. Everybody spent some time in the stand. Of course. I
just I just think of Diggle calling it the stand all the time. What
wasn't that guy from last season, the right the oh the handshake memory guy.
Yes, yeah, he was in Afghanistan, wasn't he? Yeah,
everybody was in the stand. I'm telling him. You know that that actor
married Katie lots in her life. Oh wow, they're gonna make beautiful babies,
let me tell you. Yeah. You know, while of it,
when I was in the stand, I was protecting a warlord. And just
shut up, Diggles, just shut up. You're trying to be Alfred Like
I was in Boma with my mites and the size of a tangerine anyway,
what I don't even the John Cordy is totally a lot of so yeah,
he gets up the interests himself and uh and uh she's like, well a
fired technicality, like she's gonna go sort out. I mean, it isn't
test or boss doesn't test hater, Like I'm gonna talk about a ORB.
I remember at the very beginning she told Chloe like there was like an alien
orb and Chloe a merely starts gaslighting and're like, now, listen, low,
I think you just hit your head a little hard. I'm like you
people, like I hate all of you lying to your friends and family all
the time, Like I don't know where I feel. I complain about everyone
knowing that secret I didn't use in the air overse Then I get so mad
at all these people on small just lying to people's faces all the time.
I don't know where I you know what I mean? You know, I
mean, it's it's kind of apples and oranges, but but not but also
not really because it's maybe it's because they're actual superheroes and they're still figuring out
like that is it a cave? Clark's where's the yes? What if it's
just on a black T shirt. Please don't hurt me. Yeah, but
Lewis is gonna go iron on her job situation, and apparently John Korman's gonna
sit across the desk, and apparently today, of all days, is that
they decided to throw away Clark Kent's name tag because he's visiting family indefinitely,
which is technically the truth if he's up north talking to Jarrell. Yeah.
Yeah, but then I Lois blows it out of the trash Hopefully she cleaned
it off because it was it was literally in the trash can. Yeah.
Yeah, she has some disinfecting on her desk. That's how you get COVID.
Well, there's a pandemic in two episodes zombies. So uh so she
gets a phone call from the blur blow there trustweethos, Like what what what
do they? What do they say? Like, it doesn't get revealed,
it's not a thing. He's just like, I guess he's just gonna confide
in her for a while and we're not gonna hear what they said, right,
Yeah, it was. It was kind of interesting because I liked how
it started where She's like I thought I'd never hear from you again, or
that you disappeared forever and he said, I'm supposed to it. Yeah,
And and it just it had the way it was written. It felt like
it had a vibe of like, let's catch up because we haven't talked in
three weeks or whatever. But it just the way it was shot and framed
was very It was too abrupt of an ending. Does that make any sense?
You know? Like, yeah, it reminds me to mention an arrow
again, right, it reminds you of God. They have several Laureld eyes
and she's like, Oliver, I need you to promise you something and we
cut and that gets revealed later. Yeah, and he's like there's a juice
between those, right, well let me tell you. And then you're like,
oh, it's gonna no, It's just it's strange. Now, I
will say I said this last season. Do I like how they found a
way to work in the Clark Lewis Superman triangle and the phone booth thing?
Yeah? And twenty first century. I'm like, good for you. You
don't no way to do it, all right, because it's you know,
in this plays itself out by this time next season, Lois knows the secret
and that's that's great. She should not be in the dark that long.
So I enjoyed the whole dynamic there. I was just kind of like,
strange, again, this is all a side effect of them, Like,
I don't know, I guess three weeks passed and it was September fourth,
thought d like, it's all a side effect of that. That's where this
stuff is. So I guess their conversation with Will because she goes to sleep
and has a pretty crazy sextream about her and Clark. Huh. I was
like, there's a little bit of my jaw on the floor going, oh
my god, like this is this is steamy. That's on Friday and night
now my friend, Well, thank god for that. But no, it's
this little like Oh, by the way, I guess she's living at the
town apartment. Oh yeah, they made a big deal of that. I
she had to get run place last year. But I guess she doesn't round
for three weeks and they kick her out or something. And I don't know
what does Chloe live now. I don't know the watch up, I guess
one would assume is the talent even open, Like I'm really gonna keep an
eyem for that. This season, like do people go still buy their coffee
and stuff there? Right, we'll find out, we'll find out together listeners.
But but no, this is a little like they're getting very mystery box,
you know. It's it's the kind of thing where it's like we're gonna
show you clips of something that's not happened yet, and they have some idea
but they haven't quite figured it out. And we see the zadd symbol,
we see Chloe dying, we see Oliver and red skies and in a tower,
and you know, I'm again, I'm very interest to see how this
all plays out, if it all any of it tracks. But I guess
this is her memories coming back. Yeah, I guess which is they're missing.
We don't know, but well, it's it's such a it's such a
weird trope, and it's just the first time I saw it, I just
I remember just rolling my eyes going, you know, are we really doing
this? Like we you know the j J you know what this is?
I'm too soon. That's Bruce, It's he's the key. Lois Lane is
the key. It's exactly Smavel is the group within. Yeah, you're you're
really not wrong there, But it's just reeks of like, hey, stay
tuned, something's coming kind of a feeling. And but after rewatching it and
sort of realizing that they actually resolve it quicker than you know, they used
to, I kind of I gave him some credit for that. You know,
we didn't have to wait till episode twenty two, right, that to
me, that is what There's some holes in this time travel thing, right,
But to me, what makes it work is it's the mid season finale.
Yeah, like they don't in the air overse of course this would be
Who's in the Grave? Oh, I'm sorry, I'm late. I was
dealing with zoom or whatever. Right, It's like, that's that's what this
is. But it's like, no, we we're going to resolve this and
move on to something else. Well, and while those elements are still there,
you know, but it's not like all leading to this as the season
and finale that I'm actually kind of shocked they didn't. Yeah, I'm actually
I'm actually very glad they didn't. So right, So there you go,
I mean, and then Lois wakes up and this is an ongoing thing for
her until the you know, everything comes or at least attempts to come full
circle right season finale when they opened Pandora's box. You're not one of us
anymore. This isn't your battle. Do you admit that it's yours? The
human emotion is what made you the hero that you are. To joke there
would stop me from being the hero. I couldn't catch Small on It's New
Night Fridays at eight seventh Central on the CW. His abilities are none of
this world. He watches over everyone but has never been seen. I know
you're up there somewhere, and if you're luck cannot A bright symbol of truth
and justice will light up your darkest moment. The Small film season premiere on
its New Night Friday, September twenty five at eight seventh Central. Savior got
an eight point two out of ten on IMDb, and Neil Billy from the
Superman homepage gave it a one out of five. Oh my, oh my
god, Neil, why I used to watching the show Man? You haven't
liked in forever? An excerpt for some context the Here we Go. My
basic reaction to all of these arcs is total apathy and the execution of most
everything in this show, aside from Callan's imitation of Zod fails miserably. Unlike
last season, there's very little to root for or hope for. Here.
It's a bunch of whining idiots acting like a holes. Clark included, when
they're ready to start acting like heroes, I'll be ready to start having fun.
Oh that's pretty scathing. I mean, look, I get being soured
from the end of last season, but I thought this was a step in
the right direction. I would agree. You know, it's it's the if
they were just like if it was just like a Power Rangers thing where they
were just saying, hey, sorry about being mean last last week. Oh
it's okay, it's morphan time. You know, it gets there's there was
consequences to what happened, and this these first few episodes really nail that.
As to know how the characters are processing everything. You know, it wouldn't
it wouldn't be interesting if they were all just buddy buddy by the end of
it. So Neil, like, you know, you know, chill out
man. So that being said, JJ, on the on the letter grade
scale, what would you give Savior? Uh, you know, I think
I'm going to give it an A. I think it's a solid opening.
I think that there's you know, i'mlike Neil, I do think there's really
great character stuff in it. And sure there's some questionable fight scenes and stuff,
but it the show, like you said, it was sort of a
reboot of reboot, but I think it was going it was. It was
definitely a step in the right direction. I felt I felt comfortable where the
show started to take me at this point. H Yeah, I'm getting even
a bay solid b. I think the strength of Zod and Calum Blue in
that whole storyline like really elevates it because we we were really digging into some
of that time travel and Kryptonian assassin ye potholes, which which oh, by
the way, in the final scene where Zod's like needlebufolls on or everybody,
right, we see her from the past that right, right, so they're
like, oh, it's all part of this thing, right. So anyway,
that's another little thing that ties it all together. And she looks like
she looks like a lead a battle angel, except so she has blue eyes
and I think it has brown. She just have those piercing blue eyes,
the very very beautiful eyes, very insane, very insanely blue. Yeah,
so that's so that all that's conny. So anyway, I'm gonna go with
B. Like honestly, I was thinking about maybe even to be minus,
but I it's it's enjoyable and it really did kind of help made me feel
like, Okay, show, you really let me down. But I feel
like you're you're trying to make trying to make it right. So so,
like I said, off at the very top, not one of the strongest
premieres because I feel like they have small has so many strong premiers and finales.
Yea, and it's not. But again, like it's still enjoyable,
like not a disaster, not by any means, Like I'm enjoyable and and
I just feel like, yeah, you know what was the grades will continue
to increase let the season goes. It's a long way back from that D
minus I gave doomsday. Okay, so h A for me, B for
you. Let's go with the tally board. It's actually quite a long tally
board. This week. We have a plus one for amazing technical or cryptonite
that brings us to fifteen. We have plus one for amnesia count because Lois
as amnesia that brings us to sixty six. Plus one for Clark loses his
powers because of Blue the Bluecrupt Knight, which was the amazing thing Niclor Crypt
Night. That brings us to fourteen. Plus one for hospital visit because Lois
one to the hospital. That brings us to one hundred and thirty four.
We have a plus one for knock out to keep Clark's secret that brings us
to fifty four. We have a plus one for let's do the time warp
again because we have time travel back from the future. That brings us to
seven. Like I said, I'm very curious to see if they ever explained
why the Lesion ring didn't work right. Costume boy, he gave me a
bad faulty ring for something a year. It's supposed to be a thousand years,
right. Plus one for Lois's costume closet because she has her ring girl.
Is that who they are? Yes? Yes, ring girl? Yes.
Two of the most common words the human language. We could not remember
them earlier, but a ring girl. That brings nine. We have plus
thirty one based off my visual scan of Lutheran Mansion of not the last Son
of Krypton or you know what, Let's make that thirty two because of the
Kryptonian assassin. There were two of her, so let's do that, which
brings us through forty four. Okay, and that might be a shifting number
as we go through season nine here and then finally shirtless Oliver plus one because
he's in his cage match. That brings us to seven. So far.
Bechtel test pass. I'd say so because Low Low and Chloe do you talk
about how she's been missing, not about a man. I mean, they
mentioned things around it, but I think that qualifies as well. Yeah,
yeah, Bechtel tests passed. There you go. Well, JJ, we
have a actually started season nine podcast. Thank you so much for taking the
time to talk about Savior with me. Of course. Yeah, this was
a blast. I'm glad we got to finally do this. Did anyone's say
Savior in the episode, by the way, No, they she she says
betrayed, right, But no, I don't think right. Yeah, No,
I don't know. I don't think so. I was thinking John Corman
might when he's complaining about the blurb, but I don't think he did there
either. It just seems like such an obvious that it's been said many times
on the show, just not this episode, right, I think thinks he's
some kind of savior or something like that. But that's they wedge words in
this show so often like that would been such an obvious, easy sentence to
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