WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.080 Hey, this is Alisander Giuliani, doctor Emil Hamilton on Smallville and you are 2 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:55.920 listening to Always hold on To small Film Enjoy. Welcome to Always Wanted To 3 00:00:55.960 --> 00:01:00.000 Smallville and this podcast we talked about each and every episode of the Young Superman 4 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.960 Show, and they ran from two thousand and one to twenty eleven on the 5 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:07.519 WB and the c W. I'm your host, Sach Wren joining me. 6 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:12.040 It's from four comic junkies, Jay Jay Hodges. What's up? JJ? 7 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:17.159 Hey, man, I'm excited to be here. I guess on the show 8 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:21.879 proper. That's still a term that the kids use these days, the podcast 9 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:25.560 proper. I think that's what I've settled on calling in on other channels. 10 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:29.400 But yes, you've made it man. JJ is a very long time loyal 11 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:33.599 patron and he's literally paid his dues. But also he's a fellow podcast host 12 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:36.280 and we've talked a lot. I've been on your show quite a few times. 13 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:38.480 A lot of our our circles here on the Always hold on To Family 14 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.319 have interacted with with you in your podcast over the years and stuff. So 15 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.159 here we are. Man, you made it on the on the show, 16 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.319 so I guess since this is your first time on the podcast Proper tell us 17 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:53.000 a little bit about your small villain Superman fandom and how you how you found 18 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:57.959 your yourself where you are today. It's it's funny, like looking back, 19 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:01.519 I was always a big superhero fan, so I couldn't tell you the first 20 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:07.319 time I saw Batman eighty nine or you know, Ninja Turtles or Superman, 21 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:12.680 you know, or even like Lewis and Clark, you know, But I 22 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:16.039 I just have really good memories of, you know, getting toys like the 23 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:23.000 there's a Chris Cloud shared a commercial from ninety six about like the Legend of 24 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:25.400 Superman toys or something, and I was like, I remember those, Those 25 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:30.080 were so much fun. And and I remember just you know, loving the 26 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:36.199 Christopher Reeve movies and then hearing that they wanted to make a TV show about 27 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.360 young Clark Kent and I was like that that might be kind of cool. 28 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:44.840 And then I I don't remember the name of the website, but there was 29 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:49.639 a website I used to follow for like movie news and TV news, and 30 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:51.919 it was like, oh, you know, they're they're starting to cast, 31 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:53.879 they're doing this, they're doing this, They're doing this. And then seeing 32 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:58.240 like magazine covers and going, Okay, well, I don't know who the 33 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:02.960 heck that guy is, uh referring to Tom Welling, but I'm recognized its 34 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:07.000 Michael Rosenbaum from Urban Legend that he had been in a couple of years ago 35 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:13.199 before. So I got really excited for it, and I was there the 36 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:17.199 day premiered, and then I sat with it run until the end. It's 37 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.560 a what a journey it was. You say, you stuck through it all 38 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:25.319 the way, and did you ever stop watching at any point? You should 39 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:31.719 get so frustrated you stopped watching all JJ Surprisingly, no, I like I 40 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:38.400 I missed a lot of season seven because at the time I worked like a 41 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:44.039 weekend night job, so it was like it was tough to keep up with 42 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:49.159 it. But you know, once like you know, the DVD started coming 43 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.840 out and you could, you know, suddenly buy stuff on iTunes, which 44 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:55.039 was kind of cool. I mean, this was like early twenty tens, 45 00:03:55.120 --> 00:04:00.800 right, It's and I think it's funny to say that I ever dropped off 46 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.159 because on certain rewatches, when I think about the show and even listening to 47 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:09.280 your podcast, I'm just like, man, I think I think I just 48 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:14.400 was desperate for Superman content or something, because yeah, I just otherwise today 49 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:16.319 I'd be like I'm done. I'm done with this, Jimmy Elson a secret 50 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:21.000 agent. That's stupid. I'm out of here. I asked you that because 51 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:27.560 I dropped off until here here, until this episode here, like after season 52 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:31.800 eight, I was like, I can't now. I still recorded everything on 53 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:36.600 my DVDR and Lance and I got together Lance last year and watch the first 54 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:40.959 half of season nine like binge. It in a couple of days over like 55 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:44.360 winter break, as if there was such a thing, because I think we 56 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:49.160 were adults by this time. There was no college, there's no winter break, 57 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:51.839 Christmas break, whatever you want to call it. It was just like, 58 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:54.560 oh, okay, we got a couple of days in December, let's 59 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:57.720 get together and do this. Right. If you've heard listening to this episode, 60 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.879 chances are you heard the previous episode of the podcast about a small episode 61 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:05.360 which is Doomsday. And we went on quite a long, in depth discussion 62 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:11.079 about that, me and Anthony Desciato from Digging for Kryptonite, and yeah, 63 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:15.040 that was that was tough, and so I was I don't know, like, 64 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:16.160 I was like, I wasn't gonna give up on the show because it 65 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.879 was like my show. I watched it for eight years, but I needed 66 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:24.600 some time away. I needed some time away to find myself as an adult. 67 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:29.439 You know, sounds familiar, Yeah, right, I had to walk 68 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:30.519 away. I had to walk away for everything I ever knew and loved. 69 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:35.759 It helped though, like because I was still aware what was going on. 70 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:40.240 I'm seeing the comic con trailers, right, and oh look the black costume. 71 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.160 That's interesting, and yeah, yeah, the show's really trying to reinvent 72 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.360 itself. But it needed to. It was so strange because like season eight 73 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.439 was kind of a soft reboot, and I think the show needed it did 74 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:54.160 right, and then it kind of all went off the rails at the end, 75 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:57.920 and then this was this is also it almost feels like a soft reboot, 76 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.839 like they're changed so many things. We'll go through the episode as we 77 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.600 will and talk about it. It's like you look at it between season seven 78 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.560 and eight, and between season eight and nine, you could never predict what 79 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.360 they would have done with the next episode, Like so much of this stuff 80 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:14.839 doesn't fit, doesn't match, doesn't flow into the other whatsoever. Like you 81 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.399 know, you look at the earlier seasons, you know, seasons one and 82 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:21.079 two, two and three, uh, maybe not so much. Three and 83 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:24.399 four. It was a radical shift. But it's like, yeah, you 84 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:26.319 can't predict what's going to happen, but if it's like, oh, this 85 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:30.399 feels like a natural continuation what we just saw, like neither season eight or 86 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.040 nine beginning feels like a natural continuation of what you just saw the previous season. 87 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:36.720 But maybe but maybe that's what they needed, right, Maybe that's what 88 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:42.759 they needed and more changes, right. I mean we'll talk about you know, 89 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:46.040 characters and stuff like that as we go, but like the show moved 90 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:49.800 from Thursday to Friday night, Yeah, which was like huge, Like that 91 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:54.680 was like a huge shift because Friday night the Friday night death slot, right, 92 00:06:54.839 --> 00:07:00.519 you know, so they sin shows there to die and small didn't die, 93 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:01.839 you know, did it did actually pretty well? I think, Susider, 94 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.079 we'll do our ratings watch thing when we get to it. But it 95 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:10.839 survived for two years on Friday nights on the CW and it was still, 96 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.920 after a Supernatural, the most successful show they had. So this is this 97 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:15.959 is a very important phase of the show. Like, you know, you 98 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:19.279 have your like we always talk about here, high school years, your college 99 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.040 drop out of years, and your metropolis years. Yea, but even then 100 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.120 you can slice those up one through three, and then four is a little 101 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:30.759 different, and then you know, here eight is a little different than nine 102 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:33.439 and ten. I think ninety ten are very similar, but eight is just 103 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.279 this weird, like, we don't have any of those characters we had for 104 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:39.279 seven years. What do we do? And they're still trying to figure stuff 105 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:41.959 out. And there's a lot of great stuff at the beginning of season eight, 106 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.879 and even you know, it's sprinkled, sprinkled throughout. There's some great 107 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.720 stuff, but wildly inconsistent season. And I you know, I'm very excited 108 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:53.319 to get into season nine here because I feel like this is one of the 109 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:57.399 most consistent seasons they ever did, and I remember enjoying it very much, 110 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.120 and I am enjoying this rewatch now and I'm really looking forward to seeing where 111 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:05.519 it goes because I don't there's a lot of finer details that I don't quite 112 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.720 remember. I'm like, wait a minute, But because they set up a 113 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:11.519 lot of stuff where I'm like, did they actually does this make any sense? 114 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:15.279 When we get to the explanations, and I knowing this show, I'm 115 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:20.360 gonna guess they don't. But we're gonna find out that. But yeah, 116 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:26.959 here we are in season nine. General Zode is here right out on Doomsday 117 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:31.720 in Regeneral Zod. They try to keep Sam whipper. As you heard in 118 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:35.960 our conversation with Sam whathever earlier on this podcast himself. He was like, 119 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:39.279 that's let's not do that. So he got out of that contract, which 120 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:41.960 was the wise decision across the board. It was a good decision for him, 121 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.639 It was a good decision for the show. It was a great decision 122 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.559 for Calm Blue for being part of this whole thing. But how did you 123 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.480 feel about like when you heard that's another thing? Man? When I heard 124 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.240 like they're bringing in Zod, I was like, guys, we did that 125 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.080 already, Like what are you doing? Right? And in between, like 126 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.320 seeing the news come out between the seasons, that didn't exactly inspire me to 127 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.600 like, oh, I can't wait to see what Smubble does next season because 128 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.480 that's a you know, the Superman movies, right, look at those and 129 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:09.600 people like always looks Lutheran, General Zode real and it you know, it 130 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:16.039 kind of always is right, And what's so Zog coming in? Like before 131 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:18.000 even seeing it, like, were you excited to see this, Like, 132 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:22.799 did you feel like they're just rehashing old stuff at this point or uh, 133 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:28.240 yeah, it just I wasn't that excited it, just like Zion, you 134 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.200 know, when when you're talking about like you know, it's always Lutheran zode 135 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.320 it, it just gets boring, like we haven't we seen this already? 136 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:41.159 And it really wasn't until they they announced Callen Blue had been cast and then, 137 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:45.639 uh, you know that comic Con trailer. That's when I started to 138 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.480 go, okay, like benefit of the doubt. Maybe they have something up 139 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:54.159 their sleeve here, you know, because at the very least that guy looks 140 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:56.679 like a young Terran Stamp, so that's kind of cool. It took me 141 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.399 a minute to warm up too, and even then, like I'll admit to 142 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.320 you up front here that I didn't actually even like this episode when it first 143 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:07.360 aired. It's really only on rewatches that I started to really like it. 144 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.519 Yeah, no, I mean it was it had to win me back over. 145 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.320 So when I first thought, I was like, Okay, we're off 146 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.919 the good start here. There's still some issues and like, and I enjoy 147 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.320 every time I kind of revisited to enjoy it. Yeah, but it's you 148 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.879 know, well we'll see we're rating to the end. But it's it's it's 149 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.720 not gonna be in my like well, it has to be my top ten 150 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.919 of small Veld season premieres, but yeah, it's not gonna be on like 151 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:33.679 on my top three must see small vel the season formiers or anything. But 152 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.519 you know, you mentioned Calum Blue and in Smallville the official magazine number thirty 153 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:43.399 four, available wherever magazines are sold, there's a very in depth interview with 154 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.720 Calum Blue here about Zod and I'm just gonna try to sprinkle these and space 155 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:52.679 these quotes out throughout that podcast because number thirty four is also the last issue 156 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.440 of small Ville, of the magazine. Really, we are really at the 157 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:58.480 end of the road here. My friends would come to the stuff. But 158 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:03.120 oh man, they ask turn Stamp about it. Listened to me, Tarrence 159 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:11.039 Stamp. They asked Callum Blue about being Zad and trying out for it and 160 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.240 things like that, and here's what he had to say. Quote. First 161 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.159 of all, they didn't tell anyone it was major Zod. They had a 162 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.200 fake name. I was in London and was sent the script pages. It 163 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.519 wasn't until after they flew me to Los Angeles the screen test that I found 164 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.639 out it was actually zadd I put myself on tape, they flew me out 165 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.519 and they told me it was the huge villain of the season. Then I 166 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.559 was tested and got the role. Like a lot of people, I was 167 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.639 aware of the Terrence Stamp version. I was a big fan of the Superman 168 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.200 movies when I was a kid, especially his character, because he really terrified 169 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.399 me. It's that kind of steely coolness that gets into your head. I 170 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.600 remember Tarn Stamp's Zod. When they told me it was that character, I 171 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.240 was completely excited. I couldn't wait to sink my teeth into it and do 172 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.240 a different take on it. And it's so true, like like this is 173 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:01.679 how we describe him, Like you could not cast the better young Terrence Stamp 174 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:05.399 this guy. And I know it's one that's not what they're going for because 175 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.559 like Terrence Stamp is Darrell on this show. Sure, so that's that's They're 176 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.919 not doing that intentionally, but it's like it's it's I don't know, like 177 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.639 this show as also a man things, do they live in the shadow of 178 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.200 those christophre Reed movies or not every not every version, but this this one 179 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.960 does for sure. Yeah, and it felt it felt right like it just 180 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.600 it felt it felt like I don't think because I honestly I didn't love when 181 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:30.480 they did a zade before. So I'm like, you, you had a 182 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.720 second shot at it, and you improved in my opinion, what I'm saying, 183 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.600 yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, I mean, Rosie 184 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:46.840 did the best decret. I suppose kneel before zad shroom whatever. Which, 185 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.960 by the way, I can't wait to get to that moment when we get 186 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:54.480 to them. Yes, he's well, I'll get into my thoughts as we 187 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.440 get into the episode because I feel like i'll just I'm going to relate it 188 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:03.759 to stuff that's happening during of course. Last quote I'll use from Calum Bloom 189 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.679 so far until we get into it, he says, talking about how much 190 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.200 he sounds like Terrence Stamp as well. Quote. Yeah, people say we 191 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:15.399 have the same voice. I'm trying to get that floaty voice because it works 192 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.960 with a character. It's a semi Shakespearean voice he has, and it brings 193 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.080 a drama to it. It's not my natural voice, and I like to 194 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.080 subtly change my voice and physicality for every character. For instance, it wouldn't 195 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.120 be the same voice as Mason and Dead Like Me. I'm playing around with 196 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.080 it. So that's one of the aspects of his performance I'm trying to incorporate 197 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:35.519 into my take on it. It brings a certain sense of doom. Now 198 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:37.519 Deadlike Me is what he was most known for. I haven't, honestly haven't 199 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.960 seen Callum Blue in anything else than this, have you j J No? 200 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.559 No, I even forgot he was in Deadlike Me until like years later when 201 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:56.120 I was like watching the DVDs. Honestly, I'll say, Lionel Lex right, 202 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.519 they're on their own level, not to be touched, right, but 203 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:05.039 one right after them, I've been put Calum Blue Zad. Yeah, he's 204 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.600 he brought that same kind of level of sophistication to it, you know, 205 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.039 I mean Tarrence Stamp, I mean, you know, dare I say, 206 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.360 is kind of one note as Zad, right, you know? Yeah, 207 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:20.840 And it's not a bad thing for the way he does it, But that 208 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.559 wouldn't fly with you know, having a twenty two episode R for this character 209 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:31.919 like he he's able to bring that strength plus the vulnerability that you know, 210 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:35.919 should we're insecurity, I guess I should say that that should that should come 211 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:43.039 with these villains that, you know, just let their egos drive every action, 212 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.159 you know. Yeah, Now I've said this many times. I don't 213 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.120 think we've ever had a bad ZOD other than maybe Michael Roosevelt, remember, 214 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:54.360 right, JJ for really, yeah, they're all so different, like like 215 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:56.759 even though even though we're talking about like, oh yeah, Calum Blue plays 216 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:58.960 a lot like Terrence Stamp, still very different. As you said, turn 217 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.320 Stanbury kind of one dimensional more or less. I mean that's right, that's 218 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:07.000 what that character called for back then. He did it fantastic. He's an 219 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.399 iconic movie villain, right, but but you know, he's not very layered. 220 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:13.039 It's not like going on there under the surface. Yeah, but Michael 221 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.960 Shannon is fantastic. He's probably the best villain in the DCU because he's just 222 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.639 a fantastic actor, you know. Yeah, I mean it's that there's not 223 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.000 a lot to choose when he comes to the villains, but I mean, 224 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.399 they're so different from each other. And then and then spoilers from Cryptod Walter 225 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:35.360 Steele, it's fantastic ZOD. Yeah, that was that was actually a great 226 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:41.279 shock that that first season that the The Traveler had come from The Traveler listen 227 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:45.639 to this, listen to this smaller family were talking about the yeah Colin Salmon 228 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.159 from Walter st Merrow, Right. The whole thing was we thought it was 229 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:52.039 gonna be Brainiac, right, right, right, But I mean and that 230 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:58.000 wasn't wrong because Brainiac was coming, but it was Zodd that was the one 231 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.639 that was messing with time and space. So that was actually kind of an 232 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:06.200 interesting twist. I thought that is a show that I was like, what 233 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.159 do we do it? Right? And then I'm like, this show is 234 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.840 amazing, Like it really it won me over. I really did enjoy it, 235 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:15.759 and I was really disappointed that it got cut short after you know, 236 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:21.200 two seasons. But yeah, who would have thought Oliver Queen's step dad would 237 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:23.840 be one of the best general Zadd's right, but again, so different than 238 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.639 all those other versions, and like, I couldn't tell you, like who 239 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.320 my favorite one is, honestly, I really couldn't. Like if you just 240 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:32.960 roll with ice and I'm like, yeah, there's merits for all of them, 241 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:37.879 and I'm very We're very fortunate in that way because you know, there's 242 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:40.639 a lot of all ex luthors, but a lot of them are clearly better 243 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:44.240 than other ones. You know, and you can't say that about like so 244 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:45.840 there, but for Zada as much as we say oh Zad again, like 245 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:48.639 they find a way every time you sum with it, and that that is 246 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.960 a huge reason why this season works as well as it does. And they 247 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.919 set up so many things here that continue on into the throughout the whole ark 248 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:57.759 of the season. Even rewatching this, I was like, oh, this 249 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:02.279 is kind of it's like what tri at rhymes the same thing that the Lighter 250 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.160 And it clearly was unintentional. I give these I give this show no credit 251 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:08.480 that they thought this through, but they worked out a lot of things and 252 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.960 it really was an inspired thing to do because when you lose Lex Luthor, 253 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:18.920 the Doomsday was a good the werewolf dooms Day was a good way to to 254 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:22.440 adapt that character. But it just only it has his limitations. Yeah, 255 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:26.119 Like I think like Davis Bloom and that story kind of ran out of steam 256 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:29.519 by you know, Bride, I'm like, okay, we're done, Like 257 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.640 that's the culmination of that character. Oh no, no, we have twelve 258 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:36.720 more episodes and there's only so much you can do. And then you know, 259 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:38.480 we already talked about the fight and stuff the end and and and and 260 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:44.359 when it's a it's fun to see a villain you can like enjoy, like 261 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:47.680 you love to hate. Right, that's the word that the phrase they use. 262 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:48.880 And I'm like with Dooms say, oh he's a tragic he doesn't want 263 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:52.359 to be bad, and like, okay, I'm I'm done, I'm feeling 264 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.279 I'm done feeling sorry with these guys, like we just have a villain here, 265 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:59.400 you know. So so it was it was a great gear shift into 266 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:03.160 a very necessary thing for a show that there's no Luthers anymore. Right, 267 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:04.880 all right, what do you do? You go to General's autemwork down. 268 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.000 And that's a huge reason the season where it's but all that to say, 269 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:12.799 we have arrived at season nine. Let's get into it. Savior, there 270 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:17.039 is no Clark. Hint, I wear the symbol, remind myself that I 271 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:22.720 have a different destiny. Let's get that. You're embracing your Kryptonian side. 272 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:30.039 There's nothing human about you anymore. Started the training that Jill always wanted me 273 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.799 to do. I gave up everyone important to me. And what part of 274 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.680 that involves skulking around a phone booth looking for loss. I know you're out 275 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:42.519 there somewhere. I promise you can trust me. It's not a copy, 276 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:47.359 it's a vigilance, an exposure. Look, I know who he is. 277 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:53.559 His name is John Corbett. Who the hell are you nil it for a 278 00:18:53.720 --> 00:19:00.359 short? Why are you risking your own life? Because it's the only I 279 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:03.440 had to defeat you before you destroy our world. I will apply the answers 280 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:11.880 we are looking for. I will die. It's Smallville season from me. 281 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:15.079 You're on It's new Night, Friday, September twenty eight, seventh Central. 282 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:23.759 Savior is the first episode of Smallville's ninth season. It aired on September twenty 283 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:27.880 fifth, two thousand and nine. Was written by Kelly Saunders and Brian Peterson 284 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:33.599 and directed by Kevin G. Fair. Now, JJ, we do the 285 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:41.519 ratings? Watch now for these last era of Smallville? And what do you 286 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:48.240 think Savior got in September of two thousand and nine. Now, let me 287 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.920 give you some context may or may not help you. Okay, But but 288 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:57.559 Doom's Day, which aired May of that same year, got three point one 289 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:03.200 three million viewers on a Thursday night on the CW. So now we're on 290 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:08.279 Friday night a few months later, had a very contentious, divisive season finale. 291 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.799 What do you think the ratings are for this season premiere, I would 292 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:19.359 say just over a million, like one point two million, one point You 293 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:26.279 think they lost over half their audience? Yes, okay, you're wrong. 294 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:33.640 Well that's nice. Two point five eight million. Okay, they only lost 295 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.519 a half million. Yeah, I was one of those half million. Then 296 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:37.519 they lost I mean, I don't know if they come of my DVR recording 297 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:41.599 it. I don't know how this stuff works. But two point five eight 298 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:45.200 and I'll tell you what it goes up. And now the rest of the 299 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.200 season, like, that's not the high note, so which is that's a 300 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:49.720 good thing. You never want you never want your first episode to be your 301 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:55.079 highest rate episode. It is there you have a problem. I think season 302 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:57.079 series premiere is one thing, because that's like the whole world was watching. 303 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:00.400 There's been you know, But after that, like you know, you don't 304 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:04.359 want it to be a steady downward trajectory the entire time. And that's not 305 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:07.880 what happens in season unfortunately. But yeah, there we go. We'll keep 306 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:11.839 a watch on that as we're doing in this final era of Smallville. But 307 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.519 hey, having moved nights and I think Friday night, all right, a 308 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:18.400 lot of people have nothing to do watching Smallville. I guess I was what 309 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.759 if, I don't know what I was doing. I wasn't watching alive, 310 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.759 but I was definitely recording it. So there you go. And hey, 311 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:29.000 we get a previously on Smallville to start off this season, don't me JJ. 312 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:32.680 Yeah, it's always interesting to see who they pick. I don't know 313 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:34.119 if it's like I don't know if it's arbitrary. I don't know if you 314 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:37.599 get paid more I don't know, or less or whatever, but like they 315 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:41.279 justin Hartley, right, yeah, previously on Smallville, and I just took 316 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:44.759 a couple of notes on what they decided the feature. They showed the lowest 317 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:48.839 Clark bl relationship. They showed tests, and they really blew through Davis and 318 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.880 Doomsday real quick, Like can you imagine joining this on? Well, they 319 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:56.400 heat Doomsday and that it must have been awesome to go back and watch them. 320 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.000 They really lean into this ORB. You know, I's like, oh, 321 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.920 Lex knew this ORB. But I'm like, okay, done with the 322 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:06.920 Lex talk and all that. He's not coming back. I really truly hope 323 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:08.599 this is the last time you hear the words the Traveler ever on the show. 324 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.240 It's like the Traveler has to defeat the Beast to let out the life 325 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:14.119 and the Orb. I'm like, okay, I don't want to hear that 326 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:22.039 anymore. It's like the last eight episode titles for season eight, Late the 327 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.759 Beast the Orb Traveler exactly just fixated on that, right. We show the 328 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:32.920 Legion ring, all right, that's given to Clark. We see Lois using 329 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:36.839 my accident. Then we see again leaning in the Lex as much as they 330 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:38.200 can. We see the Lex get blown up in the truck, and then 331 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:42.240 Oliver did it, and we see Jimmy's death and then Clark Saint Clark and 332 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:48.400 is dead and fields of dreams out into the doorway, which which I never 333 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:49.920 understood. I don't know what we're saying there, but there you go. 334 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.680 You watch second. I go, okay, all right, I guess they 335 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:56.079 killed Jimyilson, Henry Henry James Olson. I think they throw that in there 336 00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.519 and that, yeah, they do make a point to say that, which 337 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.440 I was a little bit like, all right, man, like you're already 338 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:11.079 tested me. We go to to Watchtower, which, as I will remind 339 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:14.680 everyone, that that down on his luck, out of money, stealing things, 340 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.359 doing petty theft and buy drugs because he had no money. Jimmy Olson, 341 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.960 Henry James Olson, excuse me, bought for Chloe and never sold. 342 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:26.599 So just let's remember where this came from, in a show about a Kryptonian 343 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.839 who's allergic to Medea rocks. That's that's pretty unbelievable what you just said, 344 00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:37.480 probably the most unbelievable thing we'll see today. But we go into the watchtower 345 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:41.119 and uh, Chloe's on the phone calling about Lois, who's been missing for 346 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:47.160 three weeks. Wait, wait, there was a great instance of what Lois 347 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:48.720 literally says, what day is it? Later we're gonna have some I'm gonna 348 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.160 save that for then. We're gonna talk about that then. But so this 349 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:59.559 is three weeks after doomsday. Yes, it's it's watchtower, is not SI 350 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:03.920 big time issues we'll talk about when when we get our like nineteen fifty five 351 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:07.799 martine fly newspaper that we'll talk about it them. Okay, that's so dumb, 352 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.319 Martin, even dude, look around. It's the fifties. You don't 353 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:17.799 need a newspaper. But this is this is the Watchtower. It's not quite 354 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:22.400 set up yet, right, Chloe has this this makeshift desk. It's got 355 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:26.160 some missing I'll take a screenshot if it's got some missing person flyers for Lois. 356 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:30.640 You got some stock images of Chloe and Henry James on the desk. 357 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.279 But then we hear we hear a noise and the Chloe pulls up this big 358 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:38.400 ass gun. I'm like, that felt strange to me. I agree, 359 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:42.200 it was like I think maybe it was the size of it. I was 360 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:51.319 like, good God, that's like Andre the Giant's gun Robocops guy exactly. 361 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.359 So she hears this noise and then she's like, but your hand's up, 362 00:24:56.359 --> 00:25:00.519 you're gonna get a news job or something. And it's it's clearly, you 363 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.960 can clearly see it's doctor Hamilton's. Yeah, it's not a shadowy, it's 364 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:08.279 clearly him. And she's still like talking to this mess Tom. Apparently he's 365 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:12.960 a gun expert. JJ. Yeah, he knew the exact model. And 366 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:18.119 I think wait, and I was just like all right, Like it's it's 367 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:22.200 one of those like we have to show off the genius, so he has 368 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.519 to be quirky about it, right, like a Sheldon Cooper type of a 369 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:29.599 bit. It's just it's like, okay, you can just say you can 370 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:33.720 put down the gun. Smart Yeah, you know, I'm cool with him 371 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:36.880 knowing about the space time continuum, but he doesn't even know the make a 372 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:40.480 model of every gun, you know what I'm saying. So he has a 373 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:47.480 international Man of Mystery spy passed I guess was chocolate for sure, but she 374 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:53.200 thinks Ali might have sent him. And the Justice League is apparently disbanded because 375 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:59.079 they all feel guilty about Jimmy dying. Yeah, say, we should love 376 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:02.720 what Clark is doing, like he feels guilty about it, but he's still 377 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:06.720 like doing stuff and saving people, like if anything else, he's overcompensating, 378 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:12.279 right right, right, all these other guys they just quit. Yeah, 379 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:18.240 it's I don't know, especially for a team that late in the game, 380 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:21.160 like they've been around for a couple of years, Like, yeah, I've 381 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:25.119 seen some tragedy. You had to do it, right, Like and I 382 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.200 just, you know, I don't buy it, you know, but especially 383 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.240 i'd say especially Oliver, but I don't even know, but I guess I'll 384 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:37.119 put the blame on him because he's a series regular. Yeah, well that's 385 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.519 the thing, right, you don't Oliver being a series regular is a problem 386 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.640 because they have to explain, like why aren't you being Green Arrow and we're 387 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.200 all your superhero friends, like if no one knows if it was just Clark 388 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:49.599 in Metropolis, you could say, oh, well, they're all all around 389 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.559 the world, but then you have to have Alliver. We'll get the Oliver 390 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.799 later. But it's like, I don't think it was necessary to disband the 391 00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:57.960 Justice League because they did that at the beginning of season eight. If they 392 00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:00.559 didn't all got all I'm hiring or whatever, I'm like, guys, you 393 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:04.359 don't have to keep explaining like they can just be somewhere else. Well that 394 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.000 that was believable though, like they were gonna stay under the radar versus they're 395 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.559 just like, you know, they pull a Bruce Wayne at the beginning of 396 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.799 Dark Knight Rises, but girlfriend, nothing out there for me, off right, 397 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.119 And then that's defining trade, like, oh, someone I love died, 398 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.440 I have to quit. That's Batman's definding trade. Anyway, Hamilton drops 399 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.720 like a well, Clark is doing adequate job without his sidekick, Like I 400 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.599 don't know if that was some sort of backhandon's compliment to her. I don't 401 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.960 know what that was about, but that was that was a little like, 402 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.240 Okay, that was a jab that I don't think she deserved you know, 403 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.160 by the end of this episode, Chloe deserves some jabs. But maybe yet. 404 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.400 Oh yeah, I was because he guys heard me in real time, 405 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.279 just just souring on Chloe. And I'm like, are they going to redeem 406 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.119 her character in the next season. I don't think they do. We'll get 407 00:27:55.160 --> 00:28:00.319 into it. But we see that this this the light rail going to Metropolis, 408 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.920 you know, the famous light rail we'll see forever on this back lot 409 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.960 here, but it's cgi and extended going to the city. Okay, it's 410 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.519 pretty cool, new new shot here. But then we see this like purple 411 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.880 electricity, and a time portal opens up from the sky with lightning. He's 412 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:18.599 like terminator. All of a sudden, right, Lois Lane appears and she's 413 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.279 like, what the hell? And I'm like, and I am saying the 414 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.599 same thing. Yeah, oh, we're doing this okay. But but then 415 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:33.599 we see the Legion ring on our hand, and then a second second time 416 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.240 portal shows up. I think it's blue like things, they're different colors. 417 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:38.079 I don't know why they need to be different colors, like it should all 418 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:45.680 be purple. Anyways, Fine, it's okay, and then we we see 419 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:51.599 we see another person to show up dressed like the Winter Soldier. Uh, 420 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.599 yeah, it was. That was really like, what was the point of 421 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.039 this mask she was wearing? If only, I guess, just to be 422 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.480 a clue for later the only reason I can think of. Yeah, I 423 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.839 guess because it's just or you know, just to have a cool look. 424 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:12.319 I guess. You know, Ninja lady. Yeah, you know, and 425 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.039 that's why Lowis keeps calling her that. But it's just like, okay, 426 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:21.160 well it's a defining trade, I guess now. I don't think we ever 427 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:26.799 get this character's name in this episode, but Aliyah is her name. I 428 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:32.559 know. We meet her again later on in the season obviously. But she 429 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:38.440 is played by Monique Ganderton, who is first and foremost a stunt person. 430 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.079 She's stunt coordinator, a stunt person, so she does a lot of stuff 431 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:48.279 and on that realm of things. But she played a proximate Midnight and Avengers 432 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:55.960 Infinity War an Avengers in game. Whoa there you go? She stepped up. 433 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.319 Yeah, but hey, you know, they cast it's like a Ray 434 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.559 Park situation, and they cast like a stunt person martial artist to play this 435 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.440 very adept stunt person. Martial artists but do we get did you know we 436 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.720 get this Quentin Tarantino shot of Lois through the train. It's a great shot. 437 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:17.319 Which one are you talking about or it's like it's it starts out like 438 00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.119 far away and it zooms in on her like an in camera zoom. Oh 439 00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.200 yeah, yeah, I call it a Quentin Tarantino's shot, but we all 440 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.839 know, being the film historians, everyone that it's actually a technique from the 441 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.920 sixth Seas instide of and he sent him by the quint turn, you know, 442 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:30.920 just duplicates because he's like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, 443 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.720 I don't know I'm talking. But it's a really good shot of Lois and 444 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:34.640 like, and they use it in the opening credits ade for this too. 445 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.960 It's like a really cool, like I really like the directions. So there's 446 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:38.960 a lot of good camera moves I noticed, and and that was one of 447 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.720 them. So it's like, you know, the the Assassin, here Aaliyah 448 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:51.039 zeroing in on Lois, and well, so does she have her powers or 449 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:56.160 not? Jj uh? It would appeared momentarily she did not have her powers, 450 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:02.599 which given what we know about the show, she shouldn't have her powers 451 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.559 at all. But it's just I just kind of I just kind of had 452 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.160 to go with it. I'm like, okay, like we just wanted to 453 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.319 start with an action piece. Okay, but I'm cool. I would have 454 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:21.279 been cool if it was a consistent in this episode. But it's inconsistent because 455 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.200 I'm like, oh, I see her just fighting Lois like kung fu style, 456 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.880 and I'm like, okay, it's because she doesn't have her powers. 457 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.279 Yeah, of course, because she's a Kryptonian Cline, right, But then 458 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.279 later on she using re vision. I'm like, wait a minute, whoa, 459 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:34.000 whoa. Then she pulls out the bluecrypt night. I can only assume 460 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:38.599 the blue Kryptonite had had fallen out of that led back during this fight. 461 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:47.920 It had to have, otherwise it's just Lois. Either Lois got really strong 462 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.480 during the temporal Ripper, she got really weak. I don't know, but 463 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.720 now I'm overthinking it. Yes, but then we get a knockout to keep 464 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.920 Clark's secret because the train goes off the tracks and Lois hits her head. 465 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:06.279 Yeah and yeah, I think this is a pretty great save, like just 466 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:08.640 visually two special effects wise, especially for a later season in Small though, 467 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.279 I really like how they combined the CGI in the practical, and I thought, 468 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.240 this is a really good save of Clark catching the train here. Oh 469 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.839 yeah, I totally agree. And I'm glad you said that because I I 470 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:23.000 thought about it when before we you know, before I took my rewatch, 471 00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.319 I was like, yeah, that's a really good shot, isn't it, 472 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.480 And then like watching it, going oh yeah it is. It's just you 473 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:31.599 know, for the budget they had, like you said, the budget they 474 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.880 had, the time plus just you know, sometimes it's it's cool just to 475 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.119 we don't need to see him catch it. It's just the implication, right, 476 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:43.839 you know. And I don't mean that in a Dennis Reynold's kind of 477 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:50.519 a way, but but just because our brain puts it together, but Clark 478 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.559 did, did the hero thing. Yeah, I would much rather see this 479 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:59.240 than like a really bad cgi version of this, right. But no, 480 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:01.519 he catch it in the it's really cool moment because he sees low Us through 481 00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:04.880 the glass and he's like relieved. But then he's like, oh, well, 482 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.240 I I have to go away, and then she wakes up and he 483 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.599 speeds off and then he he burns the the Superman symbol into the wall and 484 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.160 apparently he's been doing this for the last three weeks. How how do you 485 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.640 feel about this? Like he's gonna save people and then burn the Superman symbol 486 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:28.000 everywhere he goes. I I get it in context of the story, and 487 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.079 I think it does kind of fit Clark's journey or at least his mindset, 488 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:36.400 you know, the way he explains it to Darrell. But at the same 489 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:40.359 time, it's a little bit like I don't know, like you know, 490 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.599 it's it's worse than you know, leaving a note that says courtesy if you're 491 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.039 a friendly neighborhood spider Man, you know, like it's it's kind of the 492 00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:54.680 equivalent of that, but it's like way worse property damage. Yeah, because 493 00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.440 it's like, dude, like this is this is you're burning into this brick, 494 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:07.039 like and it's their way of having the Superman symbol but not having Superman, 495 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:09.280 right, right, that's what they figured out, which which goes even 496 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.159 further into what his costume is. So, yeah, we see Lois gets 497 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:15.800 out of the train, she sees the s She should have no idea what 498 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:21.800 that even symbolizes, because the red bubler didn't have a symbol. That's true. 499 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.320 But then to the to the episode's credit, I don't they don't really. 500 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:28.880 They keep it all very vague, but it's like she looks off like, 501 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:30.920 oh, he must be up there or something. Right, So we 502 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.159 get this pan up of the of the building and then we see we Clark. 503 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.599 He's up there in full Batman mood, perched over the city and this 504 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.079 is this is a big I remember this in the trailer the comic con trips 505 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:43.440 like, oh, he's got the black costo. But it's like that. 506 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.719 I love this costume. This is my favorite Clark costume on the show because 507 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.840 it has the Superman symbol on his chest. He does shirt rips and the 508 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:59.159 trench coat is like a cape. Okay, like this red bluebird thing, 509 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.039 which is some clothes that he wore. He's been wearing that for like seven 510 00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:05.840 out of the eight seasons up to that point, and then season ten the 511 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.440 jacket like he barely uses it, and then the S is on the jacket 512 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:10.519 and not the shirt, and it's more like a step back. I don't 513 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:14.880 know, Like I get the Matrix criticisms, I get, you know, 514 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:20.280 the X Men two thousand criticisms, but like I like the blurb costume from 515 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.239 season and what about where do you fall on this? I you know, 516 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.079 I totally agree. Uh and and for kind of all the same reasons, 517 00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.360 you know, very just superficially, it's it's a he's wearing the s finally 518 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.199 he's got some form of a cape. It was just you know, the 519 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.119 the two thousands and early you know, well, yeah, I guess mainly 520 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:45.840 the two thousands. Uh, we're such a weird like we got a compromise 521 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:51.519 on the way these costumes look, you know, like a certain like modern 522 00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:55.920 cool, gritty sensibility, right, and it's like, okay, sure, 523 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.880 But at the same time, there's also precedent for Clark to wear black from 524 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.760 the comic books, and it is kind of fitting after the fight with Doomsday. 525 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:07.800 Now he's you know, kind of a little cold and distance, so 526 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:12.039 he's wearing the black suit. YadA, YadA. You know, we can 527 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.800 wax poetic about that as much as one. We don't have time for that. 528 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:20.800 But at the same time, you know, the matrix criticisms and stuff. 529 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.079 I was just like everybody was doing it in the you know, like 530 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:27.800 ninety eight, ninety nine, and you remember like Mystery Men from like ninety 531 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.199 eight, Yeah, yeah, they I don't think that's what they look like 532 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.000 in the comic book. I don't really know for sure, but it's how 533 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.320 they looked in the movie. Just yeah, Hey, let's not forget that 534 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.440 Batman is blue and gray in the comics until nineteen eighty nine. That was 535 00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:44.519 people forget. People always forget, like no, that that invented the black 536 00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:49.440 bat suit that we still used to this day, you know. Right, 537 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.079 but in Smallville the official magazine number thirty four available Rebber magazine just sold. 538 00:36:54.360 --> 00:37:00.559 There's an interview quoted from a TV guide interview, so it's second hand, 539 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:05.159 but with Tom Welling talking about the new costume, and you said, quote, 540 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.239 I've gotten away for many years with a blue T shirt and the red 541 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:12.840 jacket. Very easy wardrobe for me, very simple, straightforward, very comfortable. 542 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.440 This new wardrobe, the leather jacket is a little warmer, and you 543 00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.559 have to learn how to not step on your jacket when you're in a fight 544 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.920 sequence. You learn that pretty quick. Doesn't take many times before you figure 545 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:30.360 that out. But yeah, this is, uh, you know, our 546 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:31.800 our last shot for a get into the opening credits, right, and we'll 547 00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:36.079 see this shot in the opening credits to end there opening credits for you know, 548 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:39.480 the next couple of years of the show and opening gredits. Look, 549 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.760 I love it. Almost every season there's a new one. I'm still mad 550 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.000 about season two and three not changing even I know the cast didn't change, 551 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:50.440 But all you had to do is switch out some clips. Uh, I 552 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.519 had. I had a few notes here about the new opening credits and and 553 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:53.239 you know, give me some feedback here. What do you think? But 554 00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:58.800 there's there's there's like there's like three new shots of Clark, all from like 555 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:00.320 the new season, which is great, showing off the new black suit and 556 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.800 all that. I think that's great. Alison Mack who's second billing. Now, 557 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.679 look at her working her way up because he hang around long enough get 558 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:12.360 that second billing. A couple of new shots, both from this episode, 559 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.719 one of which with the big ass gun. But I think of Chloe. 560 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:16.639 I think that big ass gun, Like, I don't know why you would 561 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:21.880 do that. They used the Quentin Tarantino shot of Lewis on the train in 562 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.760 here. But but of course they keep that swimsuit shot of her from Aqua 563 00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:30.840 because they're not gonna let that go. That's iconic stuff. I'm I'm not 564 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:37.320 mad that they left it in. Of course they leave in the Apocalypse shot 565 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:43.039 of Clark with the glasses just to taunt us fans like, oh, they're 566 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.880 most soul were he would? No, No, that was one shot. 567 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.559 It's just like you see it as long here as it wasn't the episode itself 568 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.920 ridiculous tests. I feel like they could have vexed some better shots of her, 569 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.840 like they didn't. I was like, that's just generic test stuff. 570 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:59.400 Sure there are some, but there are some great zad shots in this almost 571 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.159 all of them are from the episode. But did he not look exactly like 572 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:08.000 mister Fantastic from the Fantastic Four movies Ion Rufford? His name is, Oh 573 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:14.679 my god, I guess he kind of does, but especially in the shot 574 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:16.280 they using the opening credits of him like turning over and give him a test 575 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.800 that like smile. Yeah, I'm like, next time you watched the season 576 00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:24.400 and episode, y'all, he looks exactly like him? What have you done? 577 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.079 You know? There's some Oliver action in here, you know, the 578 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.519 a couple of shots from this episode. Two. Uh. I was surprised 579 00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:36.679 they still have the season one bus crash from Rogue in here. Yeah. 580 00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:38.239 Yeah, it was a great stunt, but I'm like, y'all, that 581 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:43.719 was like eight years ago. Like, but thank god there's that and not 582 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:49.400 the CGI mace to the face or the which comes later in the show. 583 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.400 But well, you know, the as far as the bus, uh you 584 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.559 know, pet goes, it's like, okay, that was a that was 585 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.079 like you said, a cool stunt and stuff in season one, but you 586 00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:07.519 said way cooler saves and the freaking eight years since standing stationary lighting a buzz 587 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:13.000 at him. So they switched out some of the Fortress solitude stuff, like 588 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.880 the stuff here, like I think we've seen him and the fortress in the 589 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:17.039 in the red jacket. That's out. They switched out for the new stuff 590 00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:21.639 here. The almost kiss between Clark and Lois from Bride is in here. 591 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.320 I'm showing you kind of where they're going with the relationship. And then the 592 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:27.480 montage at the end, we get we get the close up of him walking 593 00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.880 away from the exposure from Justice. We get the flying from Crusade, which 594 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:32.679 we're always gonna see w forhever. We get the missile going off and hidden, 595 00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:36.280 and then we get the shot we just saw of him on the rooftop 596 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.880 in the black suit. And uh, there's a great montage. This just 597 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.360 some great opening credits. It's just funny to think about what they choose and 598 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.760 what they don't choose. I think Tess is underserved here. One of her 599 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.400 shots is her pushing a button to blow something up with her faces even in 600 00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.840 focus. It's it's It's also one of those weird, almost forced perspective shots 601 00:40:54.880 --> 00:41:01.360 where her hands gigantic in her head. Yeah. Oh man, So we 602 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:05.559 go, we go to the open credits and we come back and uh we 603 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.199 we see the shots we just talked about him and the fortress, seeing the 604 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.199 seeing the stuff. Now there is no attempt made to explain why the Fortress 605 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.440 is back. Like season eight, it was like, oh, Jarrell's dead 606 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:15.679 and the Fortress is dead, and Brady act and Dooms eight took it over 607 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.280 and it's a big, like blackened shell of itself. And because they thought 608 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.840 that was the end of the show, we don't have to worry about this, 609 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.960 don't worry about it, and they don't worry about it. I get. 610 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.039 I'm not gonna complain. I'm gonna just assume that Clark turned it back 611 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:37.280 on at some point. Sure, it's it's as good as good as an 612 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:42.559 explanation as any, you know, It's just it's probably as much thought as 613 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.880 the writers couldn't do it well. So that's what I'm talking about this all 614 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.760 this like there's all this discontinuity between like what just happened, Like because I 615 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:52.880 think about season seven eight, it's like this orb will control you. It's 616 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.800 like, yeah, I just took away your powers. Oh, I mean 617 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.280 I can manage that. He should have just said that. Yeah, it's 618 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:07.159 oh boy, now we get a care mentioned, right Clarkson, Why can't 619 00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:12.440 I fly? Because like you're still serial soul fuzz a human. I'm like, 620 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.679 okay, that that makes sense to me, Like I know we're all 621 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.079 cynical and what doesn't he just fly? Man? And I'm like, hey, 622 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:20.960 he's grown up as a human, he's a friend of high. He 623 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.960 has some mental block. I accept that explanation for why literally every other Cantonian 624 00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:30.880 can't fly and he can't. Yeah, yeah, no, I was you 625 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:37.199 on that. I just the some of the draw stuff. I just I 626 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:39.320 don't know. I think about it, like when you're talking about inconsistency, 627 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:45.000 it's like like, here was this kind of a cool take on the character 628 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:50.599 when he was kind of malicious and manipulative in the you know, first couple 629 00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.639 of you know first couple of seasons, and then now that he's like getting 630 00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:59.119 what he wants and he's training kelll He's just keeps telling him to put his 631 00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.519 back or put his you know, to put his humanity behind him, you 632 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:06.119 know, turn his back on his humanity. I'm just like, I don't 633 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:07.119 I don't know if I buy it, and I don't know if I like 634 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:10.519 this Jarrell anymore. So I'm a little I'm a little worried about Clark, 635 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:15.199 who keeps going back to the abusive dad. So that's no, that's a 636 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:16.760 valid point that they're trying this rehabilitation with Drill, Like, look, we 637 00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.039 made him kind of a jerk, but you're right, that was at least 638 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.159 intriguing, and it wasn't that he was malicious, like for Malicia's sake, 639 00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.400 if he was an alien, so they had a different worldview literally, and 640 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.960 he was a computer, so of course you're not going to be able to 641 00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:30.519 reason with him and talk to him and all this stuff. Right, That 642 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.480 was fine, you know, but then they like the Superman returns of it 643 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.079 all. You gotta do crystals, you gotta do fortresses, you gotta have 644 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:38.199 like friendly Jarelle stuff, Like they were like, well, we'll just we 645 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:42.800 gotta we gotta make it like the movies, Like okay, I guess, 646 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.000 but yeah, they're having these conversations about like oh yeah, you know, 647 00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:50.599 the person in the way of focusing all this. I'm like, what's this 648 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.800 like cycle analysis? You have a therapy session now. I will say, 649 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.480 like, there's two scenes here off the top of Jarelle and Clark, and 650 00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.599 I'm like, those should have been combined in to one scene. They felt 651 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.880 kind of redundant, like because the next skipping head slid, like the next 652 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.760 scene we see with them like he's jumping off the Statue of Liberty, right 653 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:12.960 or Lady Gotham if you're watching Batman Forever. But so I think they should 654 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.119 have come back from the break with him on the statue of Liberty and you're 655 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.159 like, oh, that's cool, and then he jumps like oh that's cool, 656 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.000 and then revealed then that he was in a simulation and then all those 657 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:22.880 conversations going to be one scene. I think that would have made felt a 658 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.280 little I don't know, they're just throwing that out there. Yeah, no, 659 00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:34.840 it's a It's one of those things that you know sometimes these episodes they 660 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.519 just they almost need to rewrite. After the final rewrite, you know, 661 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:44.360 it's just you go buy three shoots and yeah, and obviously you can't really 662 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.039 do that with the schedule they had, but it's just a little bit like, 663 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.039 Okay, I guess you needed to either have the run time or make 664 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.039 sure that Terrence Damp got you know, you know, you know, you 665 00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:58.760 got what you're paying for that day. Yeah, that's a good point. 666 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.440 Yeah, it just felt like and almost like I know they talk about slightly 667 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.559 different things, but it's like redundant to see two dozen same. Speaking of 668 00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.960 Terrence Stamp, how many episodes do you think he's in this season? In 669 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:12.920 season nine? Jj? Uh, there's there's twenty two altogether, right, 670 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:22.079 yes, uh nine? You think Terry Sam Sharrell is in nine episodes this 671 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:28.159 season? Yes, you're rock again. I give you a second chance and 672 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:32.880 you've failed. Dude, he's in two episodes. That's it. What he 673 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.400 believed that, Oh my god, I must be I must be confusing him 674 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:44.159 with Julian Sands or something. Julian Sands is in technically two episodes, technically 675 00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.039 just one, but like we see his like outlined in one other episode in 676 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.800 season nine. It's crazy to me, like you think Darrell is here, 677 00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:52.159 like all it's to me, that was like Marsha Man hundred and season six. 678 00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:53.960 Oh yeah, he shows up and he's like in the last half of 679 00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:58.920 the season. No, he's like in three episodes. It's yeah, well, 680 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.320 now that it's that you mentioned, it's like, so the last time 681 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:06.519 we okay, it's two episodes. Last time we hear Darrell's voice is when 682 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:14.679 he's telling Clark why he gave him telepathic powers. That is correct, Give 683 00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:22.159 me a break. This is part of your droll. Sure it is, 684 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:27.119 just like it wasn't the fifties when he could shoot Little Superman out of his 685 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.920 fingertips. But that's the thing they I remember back in the day, right, 686 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:31.960 And we'll talk about when we get to Echo. That's the fourth episode 687 00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:36.079 when he does that. But like I remember early small velop Brugers like, 688 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.760 oh yeah, it's like puberty with superpowers. Yeah, he could wake up 689 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.079 one day and be green. It's gonna be great. We can have so 690 00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:44.360 much. And they never do anything like that. They never do like, 691 00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:45.679 oh, he had some weird power for a little bit because he was growing 692 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.360 up. They never do that, and they do it now when he's like 693 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.840 basically Superman whatever. So yeah, so there's a couple of Darrell scenes there. 694 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:54.679 They could have been the same, you know whatever, Right, I 695 00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.800 like this just throwing in the statue liberty that that was cool, just to 696 00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:00.760 do something, do something different like that. Yeah, I wish they did 697 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:05.199 more. You please use more stock footage. You have expand the scope of 698 00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.360 the show. And so like the same four sets over and over. Please. 699 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.039 So we got a hospital. There is a plus one. Lois is 700 00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:17.159 at the hospital. M Chloe shows up and they keep calling each other Low 701 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:23.679 and Chloe. But I don't like it, neither did I. I As 702 00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:27.440 soon as she kept saying Low, I was there was a part of me, 703 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.679 and I guess it was just like the dad part of me. I 704 00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:31.920 was like, no, No, that's that's Sam's name for her. You 705 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:36.679 stop that. That's not okay. Your name is Lois. You don't need 706 00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.199 to shorten it in your four letters. You don't need to shorten it any 707 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:45.239 further. You know, parents totally a little low? Sure, fine, 708 00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.360 but not your cousin. Has she ever called her low on this show? 709 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:54.960 Ever? I don't think so. The reason too. Three times JJ with 710 00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:00.320 it within like thirty seconds low Low, and that whoa, come on, 711 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.800 and you know I didn't like that in bad Famber Superman either, he said, 712 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:05.960 Oh I didn't see it. Low. I'm like, since when does 713 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:10.639 Superman call close Lane? Low? All right, It's just I have very 714 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.320 strong opinions about this. Like it's like, you know, I just I 715 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.199 just went with my gut normm like a nickname, I can call you something 716 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:25.000 like Caah, Like, yeah, Carl's pretty short already. But that's all 717 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:28.000 they ken thinking about. When you were going on about that, I was 718 00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.960 like, you know what, like I'm with him because of that scene is 719 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:36.079 so freaking flying. Yes, so yeah, you know, but but I'm 720 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.679 with you Low and Chloe and Mo and Curly too. I guess I don't 721 00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:45.960 know. But Low has a case of amnesia jays amnesia count plus one. 722 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.800 Now are we When did she get this amnesia? Like, I honestly do 723 00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:55.159 not remember uh Pandora enough to understand what happens here, you know, But 724 00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:59.199 like, did she get the annesia when she hit her head on the train. 725 00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:00.639 She woke up on the train, she was like, what the hell? 726 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.280 So she looked confused. So did the time travel give her amnesia? 727 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.000 I don't know what happened, but she has no she has no memory what 728 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.519 happened because the writers haven't written it yet. That's why we have this. 729 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:16.440 Yes, technically probably for sure actually, but but no, it's definitely, 730 00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:22.880 uh, like because I did rewatch Pandora before we record actually uh and yeah, 731 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:28.199 it's it has to be the traveling through time that erases her memory, 732 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:31.000 because she was like, she knew everything that was going on up until then. 733 00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:37.559 But that's not how it works. I didn't I didn't say it's worse. 734 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.760 I just said, that's what happened. It's like, did they ever 735 00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:45.039 explain why she didn't go to the thirty first century? No, that's what 736 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:51.800 I'm talking about. She's just she shows up and they think they're gonna fight 737 00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:53.960 Doomsday and they're like, oh, what the well, I guess we have 738 00:49:54.039 --> 00:50:01.280 to kill her. He was thinking to take it another human form, and 739 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:06.920 that's crazy. We never see the Legion again. No, Booster Gold steals 740 00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:08.519 the Ring and that's the closest we get to see them. And I know 741 00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.239 the show never had the budget to sin Clark to the feature like that, 742 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:16.840 but could we least see somebody else from anyway? So anyway, So Lois 743 00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:21.239 is so out of out of it. She thinks that Chloe was off playing 744 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.239 Thelma and Louise with a creature from the Black Lagoon. I'm like, okay, 745 00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:29.280 I understood those references. It was. It's just it's hilarious when they 746 00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:32.239 fit in like two, three or four into like one or two sentences. 747 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.599 Then I'm just a little bit like, all right, can we calm down 748 00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.320 just a little bit. And that's why watching your show like Superman Lois is 749 00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.000 so nice, because it's like, oh, look, people don't use a 750 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.599 pop culture reference every five seconds on that show. Yep, yes, And 751 00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:51.920 I look, I love Smallville and I use pop culture references every five seconds 752 00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:57.119 on my own wife. But I'm saying I'm not normal, So like, 753 00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:01.159 well, you are catering to me. Please stop catering to me. I 754 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:07.159 feel seen but also judge at the same time. So but but, but 755 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.320 Chloe cannot spit out that it's been three weeks. Lois keeps going off, 756 00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:13.239 oh, I gotta get here and there, and I was, oh, 757 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.519 this and that, and she's like, Lolois, I need to tell you 758 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.800 something very important. It's like, oh, okay, well you know what. 759 00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.239 Why don't you go get me some sedatives. Okay, I will, 760 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:24.800 And of course she sneaks out. It's like, could you It's very important 761 00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:29.639 to tell her. This woman thinks it's three weeks ago. Yeah, JJ, 762 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:37.480 she thinks it's September fourth, two thousand and nine. Well, I'm 763 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.840 gonna tell you she's wrong twice. I don't know, and that's that should 764 00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:45.920 be impossible. But I'm afraid it's not not today. Oh but she she 765 00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:50.400 stinks out and they and they have this shot lingering on the legion ring. 766 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.719 I'm like, oh, someone who shouldn't have this is gonna get it. 767 00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:58.119 It's good. This is a very intentional shot, right, I don't know, 768 00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.119 Like they linger on the leisure ring and then it turns out he just 769 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.880 grabbed and we shooting back in. I'm like, what do you There's so 770 00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.760 much drama possibility there for a leisuring just be floating around and it's just like, 771 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:10.119 no, Chloe got it. We didn't even see it. We didn't 772 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:13.519 even see Chloe get it. She just has it later. It could have 773 00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.480 been a good tie in to, you know, instead of lingering on the 774 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:21.519 ring, like linger on Chloe and what she realizes it is and what it 775 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.800 can do. So there's a payoff to the to the ending of the episode. 776 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:30.519 This is what you're saying about the the rewriting it. Yeah, this 777 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:32.480 is why movies do reshoots, you know, Like I know the reshoots is 778 00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:36.920 like a four letter word these days, But I remember my origins. Wolverine 779 00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:38.679 came out, yes, and it leaks and everybody was talking about it. 780 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:43.039 I remember a name specifically interview with Ryan Reynolds talking about and he's like, 781 00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:45.199 people make a bit deal ont of reshoots. Every movie has reshoots, and 782 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.639 he was right, yeah, no, I mean, like that movie is 783 00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:52.960 a bad example to use to defend them, but it's it's common procedure, 784 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.000 right. It's it's like some of you some of the best scenes in movies 785 00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.400 reshoots, but like you but on a TV show, you gotta keep moving 786 00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:00.360 forward. You can't do. But if this was a movie, people pay 787 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:02.800 well, You're known want much out of scene where she pricks it off, 788 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:06.039 and they're as you know, because you're perfect, right, there's no setup 789 00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.000 for that payoff at the end. So Lois runs out of the street, 790 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:12.639 goes to that foom booth. It's it's twelve oh six instead of midnight. 791 00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:15.559 So I'm sorry, I'm lad, I know you saved me. Thanks. 792 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:21.320 Meanwhile, like, I hope you're out there, and then we cut the 793 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:24.400 Clark in the fortress, so she he wasn't there. I don't know. 794 00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:29.119 I hate to break it to j Lois, but he ghosted you. Yeah, 795 00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:35.280 and he's hanging out with like a literal ghost. But but hey, 796 00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.960 you know, the camera moved the three sixty camera again. I like all 797 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.559 the camera movement series. A lot of dynamic energy to this stuff. Even 798 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:43.320 though they're on this this backlot set, They're they're adding some scope to it, 799 00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:45.880 so so I enjoy that. But yeah, we get to that Clark 800 00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:47.480 scene we already kind of talked about with Jarrell and stuff that should have been 801 00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:52.840 kind of combined into one scene, I think, but only you know the 802 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:57.119 person blocking O focus because he keeps thinking of Lois and he's messing up his 803 00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.320 his his his training. Althose you find out in that bed and Breakfast episode 804 00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.280 he got some other kind of train. It helps him out down the road. 805 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:06.880 Am I right? You guys what I'm talking about. Darrel's like, 806 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.679 I cannot allow you to mingle with the humans unless you do it right, 807 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:17.800 wink. I don't even that works because that's like a comedy episode. That's 808 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:21.079 the only reason that kind of explanation works, you know what I mean, 809 00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:29.280 it would have been a scrubs bit anyway. But Clark's whole thing actually get 810 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:30.440 some insight. He's like, well, I let Jubi die and I can't 811 00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:32.719 let anyone else die again, and that's why he's pushing himself so hard. 812 00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:35.320 But I'm like, hey, good for you. I'm like the justice like 813 00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:37.519 over here, who's over doing cage fights and who knows what else they're doing. 814 00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.480 So, but Clark is coming to all the wrong conclusion. She's like, 815 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:45.320 oh, I know, thanks Dad, I have to tell ols goodbye. 816 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:45.840 I never see her again. I'm like, no, you know, 817 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:51.280 you came to the wrong conclusion. That's that's only collusion he comes to. 818 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.280 Well, good on Clark too, for finally learning a lesson, right, 819 00:54:55.760 --> 00:55:02.280 you know that he that it's it's helping him be objective with his saves then, 820 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:07.039 you know, so there's less human attachment. So you kind of get 821 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:10.679 where Jarrell is coming from and where Clark's coming from. But at the same 822 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:14.679 time, it's like you're learning the lesson, but it's still like one step 823 00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:17.360 four or two steps back. You know, because you didn't need to go 824 00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:31.760 that far. I suppose he's still young, like what forty they I feel 825 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.880 like they hint later that he's close to twenty five, which okay, let's 826 00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:38.880 let's let's do some math. I we're gonna, we're gonna get I always 827 00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:42.159 give season one in the bed for the doubt, and I ran everybody's ages 828 00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.119 up, so it's less weird. He's fifteen in season one, it's eight 829 00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:50.920 years later he's twenty three. Okay, so I don't know. I was 830 00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:52.280 pretty mure if it's twenty three year olds. I don't. Yeah, I 831 00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.480 mean I can buy it, you know. Yeah, but he's also but 832 00:55:55.559 --> 00:56:00.400 he's also kind of a weird dude, Like he's not like us. He's 833 00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:02.239 not making pop culture references every five seconds either. But anyway, yes, 834 00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:08.440 to listen to everybody else do so, let me get Zod at the Luther 835 00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.880 Mansion and we get Callum Blew is coming in here now in small Ville. 836 00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.440 The official magazine number thirty four available Reverb books just sold. Calum Blue had 837 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:21.440 this to say about saying the iconic words kneel before his zad, which he 838 00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.480 does in the scene. Quote. You could definitely be scared of it. 839 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:29.960 I can't imagine how an actor playing James Bond comes across and says shake it, 840 00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:31.599 not stirred or Bond, James Bond. It's a huge line, but 841 00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:35.400 on the day I said it, so it's part of the scene and I 842 00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:37.760 meant it. It's interesting because it came out not as confident as I thought 843 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.199 it would when I say it, I actually get over the head, so 844 00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:45.920 as effective as it could be. But I'm sure I'll get to say it 845 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:47.960 in a better place, which he does down the road again. It's like 846 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.800 poetry at Ryan's bookends. That's so true because this is like you're you're walking 847 00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.960 in on this and like, I really liked how Small used that line right 848 00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:02.000 in Lesser Hands, like the Flash, and you get the movie and you 849 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:05.360 get Michael Keaton like, oh, he's gonna say that, He's gonna say 850 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:07.800 the things here it is here, it is, Yeah, I'm batman, 851 00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:10.880 Like that's all. It's terrible at j J. It's it's just like looking 852 00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:13.960 into the camera like, hey, you remember when I said this, and 853 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.039 we'll say it again. It's like, anyway, that's how you not do 854 00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:20.119 it, and this is how you do it. I dug it though it 855 00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:25.039 was Keaton. H okay, okay, but but they let's get nuts. 856 00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:31.199 Oh no, that that one it that was no, not not the not 857 00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:36.639 the mic trop that they thought was. That's for sure. Well that's that's 858 00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:38.280 not even an iconic thing. That's just some random thing he said once. 859 00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:43.960 Right, Yeah, anyway, Zon comes in. It's been three weeks and 860 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:45.079 I guess over the course of the truth, because you showed up naked on 861 00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:50.920 the Luther lawn three weeks ago and looking like Sam. Yeah, it's looking 862 00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:57.639 especially like Sam over. Yeah, and so he's he's been gathering people guns, 863 00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:02.159 uh, clothes, fatigues, dog tags, big flags with a traveler 864 00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:06.199 logo which, for lack of a better word on it, like, I 865 00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:10.320 don't again, this is not connected at all to what we saw. I'm 866 00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:15.039 what was set up for us. Everything turns out okay, but it's still 867 00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:17.920 like, I don't, I don't know how we got here from there, 868 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.239 but we gotta we got to talk about some of these Ryptonians here, right, 869 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:28.840 So okay, Adrian Holmes, right, he's the black Kryptoian. Bass 870 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:30.360 Cat is apparently his name. I don't know if they ever say it on 871 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:36.360 the show, but you might know him better as Griff from Lexus or Captain 872 00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:42.400 Pike from the Starling City Police Department. So, oh my god. Yeah, 873 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:46.119 so he must be a mainstay in Vancouver then. But you know, 874 00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:51.039 as the show goes on for nine years, you know you've commented on the 875 00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.639 show before, there's plenty of familiar faces, whether they mean to or not. 876 00:58:55.159 --> 00:59:01.199 So I I take it as almost like they're watching themselves in a weird 877 00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:05.719 way. Yeah, no, that doesn't bother me. It's just it's it's 878 00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:07.960 just fun, especially with something so many years apart, such a radically different 879 00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:12.239 character, right when it's characters like well, you just play two scientists, 880 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:14.480 you could have just been the same one. That's the stuff that bothers me. 881 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:20.119 But also we have Faiora here, because this is this is Faiora has 882 00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:24.239 officially replaced Ursa everywhere, like Forsa, never to be talked of again. 883 00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:31.559 Sharon Taylor plays Fayor here in a few episodes, uh season, plays the 884 00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:36.679 mayor on Batwoman. So there you go, arrow verse continuation right there. 885 00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:42.480 Oh okay, but I don't think obviously they bring the zadd thing around where 886 00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:45.559 like his ghosts possess his old body and whatever. I liked how they probably 887 00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:50.599 together. I didn't do it was it was fun. It's weird, yeah, 888 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:52.599 but I liked it. I'm like, good, you address the fact 889 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.480 you there must be two right, two zads. They never quite mentioned, 890 00:59:55.599 --> 01:00:01.920 like like whatever happened to Fiora like secks for her because she was sure fear 891 01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:06.480 of physical body. Younger one was dead too, right, But anyway, 892 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:10.719 I like how these guys are throughout the season, so it's not just like 893 01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:15.119 there is this ridiculous army and I I'm gonna try and count them. I 894 01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:16.119 have a picture here, I'm gonna try to count me get to the end. 895 01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:22.800 But yeah, I like how these are like he has people he interacts 896 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:23.880 with and to the point where they'll start questioning him and like, hey, 897 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:25.440 why don't we have our powers? And I was going on here man, 898 01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:29.360 He's like, you know, be full sup, right, and then they 899 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:30.400 just like like count Blue said, oh they just hit me over the head. 900 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:35.039 They knocked me out. And I like how there's like mutiny here. 901 01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:38.639 Yeah, and it's believable too. You know, you can understand why they 902 01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:44.159 would be that way, and you know it's that cabin fever of it, 903 01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:47.719 right, you know. Hm, I mean, I'd just be happy a 904 01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:52.559 guy phone his pants and boots and they all match. I guess id rated 905 01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:57.840 some some military surplus story. Yeah, Like I was gonna say army surplus 906 01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.719 or something. Let me okay, let me let me get into that for 907 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:05.760 a second. Like the the because he has to be the younger one, 908 01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:08.880 right, the Major's off of it, at least until you know spoilers. 909 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:14.880 You know, he gets promoted towards the end. But what did you think 910 01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:17.840 of that? Like, he's Major Zade throughout this whole season, as opposed 911 01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:23.559 to we've always done him as General zadd. I like that because once he 912 01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:29.159 quote unquote becomes General zadd like and everybody's understanding that's when he's like passed the 913 01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:31.760 point in overturn. Okay, And this was like a whole like, hey, 914 01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:34.880 he's younger, maybe there's a chance, like because that's kind of a 915 01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:36.960 theme of the season, like Clark like trying to like, well, I 916 01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.719 don't want him to turn to that guy from the future. Uh. And 917 01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:43.800 like even Darrell, like his like his actual dad, Julian Sandebro is like, 918 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:45.440 hey, you save Zade because they were friends and so like, yep, 919 01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.679 that gives you the like if he's just showed up his general zode like, 920 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:52.159 oh well there's the villain. It's done. But because he's major's odd. 921 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:53.039 It's like, well, he's young, and maybe we can change this. 922 01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.559 So I liked that. That was a different Again, that's what makes 923 01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:59.800 it work. It's a different angle than usual. You know what. You 924 01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:01.159 turned me around because I was gonna say how much I didn't like it. 925 01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:07.039 Well, yeah, you totally joined me around because I was really for I 926 01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.840 was really like, I don't like it because it just reeks a prequel ship. 927 01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:14.039 And then you said all that and I was like, oh, well 928 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:15.719 he actually put some thought into that, and all of that makes sense, 929 01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:21.760 so I'm on board with it. There you go. We have Lois calling 930 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:24.679 Oliver. He's not answering. We saw that doctor Hamilton had his phone for 931 01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:29.000 some reason. Yeah, so I guess that's plays on anything of him now. 932 01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:31.360 But she's a returned to the scene of the crime of the train crash 933 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:36.719 and she finds the mask of the attacker. And then we have Brian Austin 934 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.519 Green make his appearance on Smallville, and Lois just assumes he's a cop for 935 01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:43.360 some reason, just a guy in normal clothes all you must be a cop. 936 01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:47.559 Uh, I think that, you know. I was okay with it 937 01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:53.159 because I figured it was her like guilty conscience speaking a little bit, like 938 01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:55.960 she knows, like she knows she's not supposed to be there, but she's 939 01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.679 going there anyway because she's lowest freaking lane, you know. So when somebody 940 01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:05.599 were to show up, it's like, I think she would rightfully assume it 941 01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.400 was a it was a police officer or a detective, you know, rather 942 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:14.760 than a fellow reporter, because she's kind of egotistical enough to think she'd be 943 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:15.760 the only one there. She'd be the first one there, you know what 944 01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:22.039 I mean? Yeah, I follow you. And do you know Brian Austin 945 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:27.360 Green from other things? I don't really. I was looking up his filmography 946 01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:30.760 on IMDb and I was like, so, I guess I'm just stupid because 947 01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:37.760 this man stayed off my radar until I saw this show, and then come 948 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.639 to find out he's a mainstay on Beverly Hills nine O two one oh, 949 01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.599 along with the never watched it. So that's what everybody's like. Oh yeah, 950 01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:47.639 I'm like, oh, share whatever. I know him from the Sarah 951 01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:52.360 Connor chronicles. Oh right, okay, he was Kyle Reis's brother. I 952 01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:58.760 saw only a few episodes of that, but I was on Twitter because I 953 01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:00.360 was talking about the Terminator. I've been told to check it out. So 954 01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.400 oh, it's great. I really enjoyed it. And it's funny because he 955 01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:06.920 was on a terminator show and they brought him into be John Corby who drives 956 01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:14.079 into Mentala and then nine two one oh they had a toy spelling there we 957 01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:20.599 go hashtag it's all connected. But he's like, aren't you the reporter of 958 01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:23.679 but missing three weeks ago? She's like, what are you talking about? 959 01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:27.480 What day is it? Like they said it the show finally seven, I've 960 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:31.119 been making fun of them saying for years what day is it? Indeed, 961 01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:33.920 because she pulls up a newspaper and it says September twenty fifth, two thousand 962 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:39.159 nine, which I'm like, Okay, they're doing the thing where the day 963 01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:41.719 of the episode aired is the day it takes place. I'm like, okay, 964 01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:45.480 fine, yeah, but then you forgot to take into account that you 965 01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:49.119 said it was three weeks after the last episode, which means Doomsday was in 966 01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:54.960 September of two thousand and nine, which I don't know if that contradicts anything 967 01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:58.599 or not, but that really extends season you know, eight, quite a 968 01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:00.119 bit because you know, back the old days of Small I was like three 969 01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:02.719 months later, right right right, It's like, oh, okay, yeah, 970 01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:05.119 you've been in Metropolis for three months on record of night got It? 971 01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:09.440 Or when they picked up when on a cliffhanger and'd be like, okay, 972 01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:13.039 we finished that one and now the school years started, so you knew exactly 973 01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.559 where you were. But this was like, y'all did you think this through? 974 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.559 Like what like what month was dark Thursday? And in season five? 975 01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:25.440 Now like I'm questioning everything. It's uh, you know, it's it's it's 976 01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:30.519 like, uh was like thinking of friends when Emma was born, right, 977 01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:35.920 Rachel's baby, because you know she's you know, born in May, but 978 01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:41.599 it was at least a day old when they have the next episode in September 979 01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:47.239 and has already been through a Thanksgiving before she was one, so I guessed 980 01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:51.079 them. You know, it all kind of adds up, But you know 981 01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:56.920 it's also just the I don't know. On the one hand, it's cooled 982 01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:01.000 saying oh it's twenty five, it's Friday. Then you know, nerd brains 983 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:04.559 can go, that's the day of the show, you know. But uh, 984 01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:08.119 I don't know why I was Mickey mouse there. I apologize, but 985 01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:14.280 but but at the same time, like then my immediate next thought is no, 986 01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:17.039 no, that's not okay. You can't just you can't just trick me 987 01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:21.039 like that. That's not okay. I just like, oh no, Well, 988 01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:24.519 then we can't have it take place like in May. It would be 989 01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:29.159 dumb, like why like why couldn't it just why could this be June fifteenth 990 01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.119 or you know, like yeah, and then and then maybe the next episode 991 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:34.480 is three months later or something, you know, And that's what they did 992 01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:38.199 in season two. The Dead was in five like this, this, this 993 01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:40.599 is what they do, right. I don't even I don't I don't recall 994 01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:43.800 exactly what in season six seventh situation, well because once he was out of 995 01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:46.840 school nothing, time didn't matter. But which which is kind of true to 996 01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:51.719 life. Yeah, post post pandemic, who knows what day it is or 997 01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:55.760 time it is? What day is it? Indeed, I'm not answering. 998 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:00.800 So they sprinkle in some like John Corby and like he's anti vigilante a little 999 01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:02.760 bit, you know, it's kind of sprinkled that He's like, any think 1000 01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:06.920 they can go around do what they want, you know, ah, okay, 1001 01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.159 Like and then he mentions like, because Lois says the red blue blur 1002 01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:13.400 save me, He's like, well, there's no more red or blue, 1003 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:17.000 just don't blur. It's like, okay, He's he's the blur now. 1004 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:24.719 Yeah. And I just the number of times they say the blur is just 1005 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:31.519 the word has no meaning anymore. I'm frisking this one episode. Did they 1006 01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:35.559 suggest blur for one of the flashest names? And the Flash the CW Flash? 1007 01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:39.840 They settle on the Red Streak, but I'm pretty sure they put blur 1008 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:45.480 in there somewhere, and maybe I don't. I think you're right. But 1009 01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:50.559 my favorite line about the blur was was boost your Gold saying it it sounds 1010 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:54.280 like a roller coaster, you know, you gotta come up with something else. 1011 01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:58.159 And I was like, that's pretty funny actually that I want to ride 1012 01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:01.880 the blur at six Flags. Oh man, I want to wear the blurring 1013 01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:09.880 Season nine a smoke though, but then then a real cop shows up, 1014 01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:12.559 so then Corbin kisses Lowest and so they can kind of get out of the 1015 01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.400 Oh hey, you if you want to join the mile along club. You 1016 01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:17.520 guys can pick the wrong train. I'm like, y'all, come on, 1017 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:23.039 even this cons who's Who's Who's dad? Is this like? Get him out 1018 01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:30.840 of here? What a dad? I like Lois's reaction like to this. 1019 01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:33.039 They got out of the jam, and then she like, you know, 1020 01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:35.560 stumps on his foot to kind of say, hey, don't do that again. 1021 01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:40.720 I'm like, yeah, I don't. No, I agree with the 1022 01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:45.119 sentiment, but that sound effect was cringey as hell. Yeah, I mean 1023 01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:47.520 he's four of his toes are broken now, yeah, he can no longer 1024 01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:50.399 walk, but he just kind of smiles. And I was like, uh, 1025 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:55.479 there's some sort of misjudgment here, and look like this this is where 1026 01:08:55.479 --> 01:09:00.359 the whole the whole step on me terminology comes to mind. But oh boy, 1027 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:08.000 it's uh somebody. We go back to the Watchtower and doctor Hamilton is 1028 01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:09.880 like, well, Oliver might be gone, but I can use all his 1029 01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:14.560 money. Apparently that's scary, Like if I have my personal posician, I 1030 01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:16.159 don't want just taking over my life when I'm gone, you know, because 1031 01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:21.000 he's just he works for him, but he doesn't need Yeah, it was 1032 01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:26.840 a little questionable, but you know, Chloe doesn't care She's like, yeah, 1033 01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:29.439 I got all my computer stuf up again. Yeah, this and this 1034 01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:30.560 is the other new Chloe shot, and the opening credits are just like, 1035 01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:34.239 oh, all the computers. That is a cool shot too. It is 1036 01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:38.520 because it's likely it's a cool I like the Watchtower set. It's a cool 1037 01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:40.600 set. I'm glad. I like it because we're here a lot for the 1038 01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:44.840 next two years. Ye right, oh yeah yeah. But why did they 1039 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:48.319 just why did they just make doctor Hamilton a main character? I don't I 1040 01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:55.399 don't know, because I really liked, uh, you know, I liked 1041 01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:58.920 these interactions with Chloe, but I but I also really liked you know, 1042 01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:00.159 when she was like, I don't really know to say, and he says, 1043 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.520 you know, I prefer we just get to work, or I being 1044 01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:05.439 more comfortable if we just got to work. That's just there's something really kind 1045 01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:11.159 of cute and weird about that that seemed to fit those two characters, like 1046 01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:16.439 we we we get their relationship just enough to jump back into the plot. 1047 01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:18.920 You know, Well, I think you need people like that, like different 1048 01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:23.680 points of view, in different like ways of speech. Like I'm like, 1049 01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:27.760 because when everybody's the same, like Lois and Cole you're the same they're talking 1050 01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:31.560 about, Like Creature from the Black Lagoon was at least like like this guy 1051 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.159 at least he's he's a little different and like he could add something like I'm 1052 01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:39.079 not saying every episode, like it's nine episodes, right, like just making 1053 01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:42.279 us put another face in those opening credits, right, mister Gaeta from BSG, 1054 01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:45.520 who doesn't love him Alisander Zack Snyder's a big fan. Put him a 1055 01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:48.720 Man of Steel? Yeah, yeah, what's the other Doctor Hamilton's He's also 1056 01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:55.279 in a Watchman in like yes, the director's cut exactly. So anyway, 1057 01:10:56.079 --> 01:11:00.439 uh, you know, speaking of main characters and contract actual links, I 1058 01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:03.199 did want to mentioned something about Erica Durance this season because her episode account has 1059 01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:08.079 gone up in small Ville. The Offisher magazine number thirty four, available wherever 1060 01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:12.680 books are sold, there's an interview with Erica Durance about this quote. Durance 1061 01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:16.079 had previously been contracted for thirteen episodes per season, and apparently that number has 1062 01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:21.560 been increased to eighteen for the renewed season nine, and Erica Durance has this 1063 01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:26.000 to say quote that allows her to breathe more and be part of the big 1064 01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:29.560 or the a storyline because they're not limited to what they can do with Lois 1065 01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:32.319 then have to create a logical reason for her to be gone seven episodes. 1066 01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:35.520 They really freed up our writers to be able to let her grow into becoming 1067 01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:39.479 the classic Lois Lane as an actor. I love that. That's why I'm 1068 01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:43.439 doing this. I'm very excited for this season. Absolutely like it was. 1069 01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:47.680 It was so obvious, like in season eight, she's just gone for stretches 1070 01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:51.279 of time and it's like, why you here for some stupid double like there 1071 01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:55.119 can't be two Lois Lanes. People are going to be confused. Returns just 1072 01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:58.640 three years ago. Nobody even knows there's two Los Lanes anymore. So that 1073 01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:03.159 was great. They expanded her episode count long overdue, and then she finally 1074 01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:08.119 I think it's to be in every episode in season ten. Yes, it 1075 01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:10.880 was to the detriment of her character, and she himself explains, so, 1076 01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:14.279 yeah, they had to make her not I'm almost doing sibling stuff on the 1077 01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:15.880 side. I can't be in a serious plotline because I can't be here, 1078 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.239 and just I hate that about what they did with her character. And finally 1079 01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:25.000 she's here to stay for for most of the season. Yeah, and who 1080 01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:28.119 doesn't want more lowest late, especially the way Erica Durance was playing her at 1081 01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:30.000 the time. Yeah, you know, pitch perfect, and it's it's the 1082 01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.039 Metropolis years of the show, Like this is a Superman now, Like it's 1083 01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.800 not a prequel anymore. We're just doing the show, like doing Superman story 1084 01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:39.920 early on the show. Yeah. But back to doctor Amilton, who also 1085 01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.000 should have been the opening credits in my opinion, give that man some more 1086 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.239 episodes. That's where I thought of that quote there. But they start talking 1087 01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:51.039 about the rips in the temporal aperture continuum and I'm like, what you mean 1088 01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:56.119 the space time continuum. I didn't watch Start Track my whole life to be 1089 01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:59.800 thrown out these new terms. But Chloe's like, I've never said this before. 1090 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:01.119 Can you dom that down? Like, looy, I know you were 1091 01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:06.840 brainiac last year, but you don't know everything. Yeah, let's just chill 1092 01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:11.920 just a little bit. Yeah, but they see how they were two you 1093 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:15.720 know, basically time quarrels that came and hit that train, and they're like, 1094 01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:21.319 oh, so, whoever whoever Lois was, someone followed her back because 1095 01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:29.119 Chloe tells Hamilton that she came back from the future from the future, and 1096 01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:34.720 then we cut to what's her name the ndijaz As and girl, yeah, 1097 01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:38.640 and she sees one of the flyers of Lois and then burns over her he 1098 01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:40.560 vision and then I'm like, oh, wait a minute, she had her 1099 01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:44.399 power as this whole time. Yeah, I thought the exact same thing. 1100 01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.840 I was like, okay, so she didn't for a minute on the train, 1101 01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:57.359 what's going on here? Yeah? Yeah, So that's just that's just 1102 01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:02.640 to remind you of that threat she poses to yes, of would she run 1103 01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:06.119 off and the train crash? Like you were looking for Clark the whole time 1104 01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:12.319 he was right there. Well, she didn't think that through, and that 1105 01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:15.800 was how embarrassing for you? Like, no, wonder you were lower on 1106 01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:18.920 the totem pol there. Yeah, you're expandable. Why don't you go through 1107 01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:24.119 the time portal? Okay, anyway, look, I love time travel. 1108 01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:27.239 I just really wanted to make sense and I'm I'm really worried that it's not 1109 01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:30.039 gonna add up when we get we get to the fifth season finale, so 1110 01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:36.439 we cut the commercial, we come back and we get Zodd and tests and 1111 01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:40.079 this kind of sets up their entire relationship for the whole season. I think 1112 01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:44.920 it's great and in small with the official magazine number thirty four available wherever magazine 1113 01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:49.359 is just sold. Calm Blue has this to say about the dynamic between Zodd 1114 01:14:49.399 --> 01:14:53.079 and Tests. But I definitely want to keep with the fact that she's still 1115 01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:55.800 a human. It's like if you went to the zoo and saw one particular 1116 01:14:55.880 --> 01:14:58.439 monkey, he seems to be a bit more intelligent than the rest, where 1117 01:14:58.439 --> 01:15:01.600 there's still a monkey. He except that way, but Test keeps on surprising 1118 01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:04.600 him. Zob is fascinated by her in a way you would be by an 1119 01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:08.960 intelligent monkey. At the moment, there's that sexual thing going on, which 1120 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.319 is weird for him to say after saying all that monkey stuff, this spect 1121 01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:16.840 something going on, but that might be changing, she defined. She definitely 1122 01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:21.520 surprises him, like I was with his analogy after that point and I was 1123 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:26.680 like, wait a minute, but no, like this wholes the power play, 1124 01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:29.199 which into him, like what they're doing on it's all set up here 1125 01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:30.199 and it's all set up really nice, and she's like, wait a minute, 1126 01:15:30.199 --> 01:15:33.560 you were their leader. They don't trust you anymore. And then he 1127 01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:36.119 gets met you can see, like you said, the insecurity, right, 1128 01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:40.600 he starts like twitch and stuff, and they're both like psychoanalyzing each other. 1129 01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:43.640 He's like, oh, you're used to abuse. That just makes you more 1130 01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:45.640 obstinate. Like, I don't know, I really enjoyed all these scenes with 1131 01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:47.840 between the two of them, and I think their characters work together very well 1132 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:51.319 throughout the rest of the season. It's all set up here. I totally 1133 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:56.600 agree. And it's it's such a different dynamic, you know, because she 1134 01:15:56.720 --> 01:16:00.279 really didn't get to interact with Lex or even with like, yeah, with 1135 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:02.479 Davis in the previous season, right, you know, so she she just 1136 01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:05.720 blew them up with that remote control we saw, Yeah, she had like 1137 01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:13.279 one episode with him and then it's so it's nice to see the you know, 1138 01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:17.880 I don't know, like why less the test is still in the picture 1139 01:16:18.119 --> 01:16:23.319 to uh be a is she an ally? She a threat? And I 1140 01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:27.479 think she's selling that really really well. And and plus like you know, 1141 01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:30.199 it's just awesome to see her have the balls to stand up to Zade, 1142 01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:33.279 you know, and and and and look at her face. It's like I 1143 01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:39.039 feel bad for you know, like she was tortured. Yeah, she's been 1144 01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:41.920 beat up and held captain for three weeks and her security team was like, 1145 01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.399 whoa, you told us not the interview. Man, I'm like, you're 1146 01:16:44.439 --> 01:16:47.279 all fired. I don't know, man, Like I didn't think it was 1147 01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:51.479 gonna go last far. Yeah, but she's like, hey, you're not 1148 01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:56.920 the same voice from the ORB. Who was that? Yeah that's a good 1149 01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:01.600 question. No one knows. Uh, that's correct. Yeah, that's thanks 1150 01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:04.079 show. Like I would like to know who that was too. But anyway, 1151 01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:08.680 and then we get you know a lot of the shots of Zad and 1152 01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:11.560 her from this scene where he like slams her on the ground after she tries 1153 01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:13.920 to choke him and all that. So anyway, yeah, good stuff. 1154 01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:20.000 So then now we get Clark on the roof of the Daily Planet and Chloe 1155 01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:24.000 comes down. I was like, oh, well, I've been trying to 1156 01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:26.880 call you for three weeks, but then low it shows up as predictable. 1157 01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:30.680 It's clockwork. I'm like, whoa, Chloe, Okay, let me let's 1158 01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:33.880 tell your role here. Why are you now petty jealous of your cousin? 1159 01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:36.840 I thought, well, like, why, like, it's it's a bad 1160 01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:43.520 color on you, Chloe. Well you know, but I kind of I 1161 01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:45.760 can kind of see her point of view, because you know, I mean, 1162 01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:50.760 Clark had basically been ghostinger for weeks, but then low shows up and 1163 01:17:50.840 --> 01:17:55.720 he's like desperate zero again. Yeah, she should be used to this. 1164 01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:03.279 This is nothing new, Like it's just like she's so petty and jealous all 1165 01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:05.960 the time. It's just it's it's I don't know, I really saw it 1166 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:12.840 uncloye. So yeah, I don't blame you. And honestly, like they 1167 01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.159 had this this conversation has the vibe of like you're talking to an X who 1168 01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:17.680 like you're in you're cool with each other now, but you don't you can't 1169 01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:20.600 talk to each other anymore. They're like, yes, yes, you had 1170 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:24.840 to move on. And it's just, you know, that's a weird vibe 1171 01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.640 this conversation, you know what I mean. And I think they I think 1172 01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:30.600 that's deliberate and I think they pull it off really well too. And yeah, 1173 01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:35.279 there's there's a there's a a very subtle tension, just enough for us 1174 01:18:35.319 --> 01:18:40.880 as the audience to be uncomfortable and they're kind of uncomfortable. But then when 1175 01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:43.119 it's time to get to work, they can get to work. Yeah, 1176 01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:45.680 no, no, that does work. It's much it's much fun we're having 1177 01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:47.520 At the beginning of the conversation, like I think she's like, yeah, 1178 01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:49.960 I was I was very happy and fortunate to be in your life for the 1179 01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:53.239 limited time amount of time I was, and you had to move on. 1180 01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:56.239 I'm like, okay, like this is this one. But Clark tells her 1181 01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:58.479 like I came back to say goodbye, and she's like, well, if 1182 01:18:58.479 --> 01:19:02.560 you have the chance, because someone's going killer that took a turn, you're 1183 01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:06.039 gonna lead with that. Chloe, Yeah, Koe, get to the point. 1184 01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:09.800 You tell Lois is the future. Tell Clark there's someone out here to 1185 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:13.439 Lois. He keeps dragging off these conversations, but I think that does she 1186 01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:15.840 even show Clark, like the mask or something. I don't think that's what 1187 01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:19.760 she I think I think she does show him. Yeah, yeah, anyway, 1188 01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:23.439 which I don't know how she got that, but whatever, Well, 1189 01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:27.000 Lois left it with the lesion ring at the hospital. That's right, that's 1190 01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:30.079 right, that's right. Yeah, which I was like, I thought they 1191 01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:33.239 were going to test the mask and find out it's like from the futures that 1192 01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:40.479 they did nothing with the mask. There's techions all over it, the particle 1193 01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:45.479 anyway, So Clark's like, oh, well, now he's been called to 1194 01:19:45.479 --> 01:19:47.960 action. I need to I need to stay here and and and save lois 1195 01:19:48.039 --> 01:19:51.640 from whoever this attacker is, right, m So then we cut to Oliver 1196 01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:57.520 doing like a cage fight. Yeah, and I guess this is I guess 1197 01:19:57.560 --> 01:19:59.640 this is what he does plus one for shirtless Oliver. By the way, 1198 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:03.960 Ah, so he's getting his ass beat in this case that the green Arrow 1199 01:20:04.239 --> 01:20:06.600 is getting his ass beat by these street fighters. Did you have a problem 1200 01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:14.760 with that? Jj? It seeing that he's just like really drunken, looks 1201 01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:18.359 like he's in I mean the way justin Hartley's playing it. At least it 1202 01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:23.000 looks like he's in bad shape, even though physically it's like good god man. 1203 01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:30.560 But but yeah, it's like and I also think he's kind of he's 1204 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:35.399 taking the punishment he thinks he deserves it. Yeah, Well, in a 1205 01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:40.359 small ville The Fisher Magazine number thirty four, Villa wherever magazines are sold. 1206 01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:45.159 Brian Pierson had to say about Oliver in his situation this season. Quote, 1207 01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:47.760 the thing we've really enjoyed about the Oliver Queen character is that if you look 1208 01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:51.600 into the comics, he is a pretty messy past Oliver canympathize with people because 1209 01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:55.239 he's gotten his hands durty in a way. Clark and Superman never really have. 1210 01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:59.720 He can relate to a whole section of society that's been off Clark's radar. 1211 01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:02.920 So we are bringing that seed underworld a metropolis back to the show this 1212 01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:08.760 year. And I was like, was that this like with the Ques? 1213 01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:15.000 You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess, and I don't know. 1214 01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:20.279 Clearly they don't know what that means because he's Wolverine. Now he's going 1215 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:27.560 fighting people in bars and stuff. Right. Yeah, anyway, Lewis has 1216 01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:30.159 snuck her way in, so I'm gonna cut this is a plus from for 1217 01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:31.640 Lowis's costume closet because she's got her like, you know, a little uh 1218 01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:36.880 what do you call the girls walking around with the signs? Oh, I 1219 01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:41.199 don't remember. There's a name for the there is. I was gonna say 1220 01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:45.800 star, right, but he's like hello, legs right, and she's like 1221 01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:48.399 legs really like I like her whole vibe here and this is this is the 1222 01:21:48.600 --> 01:21:51.880 most thing to do, Like you're steaking into something like your boys club and 1223 01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:55.720 let me in. So I had to improvise kind of thing and I left. 1224 01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:58.239 She pulls all of HER's side starts talking to them, and then some 1225 01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:00.840 dudes like, hey, lady, she just gives him. Then it's like, 1226 01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:03.000 hey, we gotta move on with this fight here, right right. 1227 01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:06.640 But she's telling him, like you know him, like hey, I need 1228 01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:11.319 a hero here, and and and this sort of thing. And then the 1229 01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:15.119 inn this car like comes through the wall, and again my mind is like, 1230 01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:16.399 oh, she doesn't have her powers, so she drove this car through 1231 01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:19.199 a wall. But then she walks through the thing. I'm like, okay, 1232 01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:20.760 I guess she picked up and through the car. You know what I 1233 01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:26.000 mean? Like this, yeah, yeah, it's it's extremely inconsistent and it's 1234 01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:30.439 kind of pissing me off. It didn't it didn't look like a car was 1235 01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:32.800 thrown. It looked like someone drove through the wall, right, So I 1236 01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:38.159 guess I guess she pushed it. Maybe I don't know. But Cartonians like 1237 01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:42.359 Jedi now because like she she's she her heat vision powers up. She's gonna 1238 01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:47.880 Kio Lois, it seems, and she senses Clark behind her, so her 1239 01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:51.960 heat vision powers down. She's oh, yes, the presence I've not felt 1240 01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:58.640 since. And then she's like I was never after Lois. I watch you. 1241 01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:00.960 I'm like, okay, do you know that's him? You sure? 1242 01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:09.840 It's like, uh, but also why yeah. But you know the best 1243 01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:12.960 part about all this is like Clark grabs him the super Speed away, he 1244 01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:16.479 still leaves the symbol here. I thought that too. He's like, he's 1245 01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:18.279 like they're in super Speed. He's just like, hang on, hang on, 1246 01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:20.479 you're gonna love it. You're gonna love this. You're gonna love this. 1247 01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:26.399 Check this out. But they lowis like smirks up at it. You're 1248 01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:28.239 like, oh, it's him, you know, I yeah, sure, 1249 01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:30.079 okay, I guess she's right up on the papers about what he's been doing. 1250 01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:34.039 And right right, it's it's a very lowesting reaction and Superman saved the 1251 01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:36.079 day. I like the reaction. It's just like it's so funny. They're 1252 01:23:36.079 --> 01:23:38.720 like, oh, well, yes, it's the blur, and she she 1253 01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:41.399 just goes with it immediately because to her, it's like the next day from 1254 01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:47.039 well what September what do we say, September Simber fourth, three weeks ago. 1255 01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:53.520 Yeah, so okay, sure, yeah, it's just I don't know, 1256 01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:57.199 man, Like it's like Batman, Brandy criminals and Superman burning esses into 1257 01:23:57.239 --> 01:24:00.600 things and like, I don't know, yeah, it's it's it's cool. 1258 01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:02.279 All the kids are doing it. Yeah, but you know, like in 1259 01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:05.560 BBS, it was like Batman, You've gone too far. It's like right, 1260 01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:10.800 and this is and this is supposed to be like yeah, Superman's arrived 1261 01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:15.720 in Metropolis. Yeah, it's it's it's something that was an historical mind ement. 1262 01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:26.640 You ask, So Clark superspeeds her back to the Kent Barn yea, 1263 01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:30.800 and not only that, throws her through the wall himself to cause destruction to 1264 01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:34.920 his own home. Yeah. Well you know he's not human anymore, so 1265 01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:39.760 that that's right, there's nothing nothing human left in him. Yeah. But 1266 01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:45.119 like, other than them having this set j J, why why are we 1267 01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:51.720 here? I would assume it's to just get her as far away from anyone 1268 01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:57.199 as possible, and that's home field advantage. Hey, you know you know 1269 01:24:57.239 --> 01:25:00.600 where I would have taken her, the Fortress of Solitude. Well you know 1270 01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:05.800 our Clark, isn't that right? You know? Yeah, he couldn't have 1271 01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:10.119 accidentally killed her on some farm equipment and there could we but no, exactly, 1272 01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:14.039 Yes, so we get this whole thing of like why do you want 1273 01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:15.800 to kill it? Like he's pissed, right, and it's just because you 1274 01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:20.199 betrayed us, And he's like, wait a minute, that's my father's watch 1275 01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:26.359 and he holds he holds up the watch. Yeah, and it's show and 1276 01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:30.319 tell that storytelling because you clearly see the date. It's a year in the 1277 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:33.039 future. But he's like, these watches, it's the same date, but 1278 01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:39.880 a year in the future. I don't know. Maybe Tomblin's getting paid by 1279 01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:42.600 the word and he's like, guys, I don't have enough in this scene. 1280 01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:45.520 No. I think some studio was like, well, they're not gonna 1281 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:48.720 understand unless you're say I under show it. But like, I'm convinced they 1282 01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:53.079 had no idea where this was going, Like they went into Hadle's intrigue, 1283 01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:55.720 right, He's like, how do you because you know he still has his 1284 01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:58.800 father's watch. It's like an ongoing thing throughout the show. And I respect 1285 01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:00.520 the part with the prop contuity. That's real cool. Although if I was 1286 01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:02.479 something I cherished like that, I don't think I'd keep it with me all 1287 01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:08.840 the time. And I'm fighting like criminals and monsters can easily get destroyed, 1288 01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:11.760 right yeacause it does in the future because it's cracked, you know, right 1289 01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:14.399 right, And he's like, how did you get this? And it's like 1290 01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:19.199 supposed to be some big mysteries, like you gave it to me, and 1291 01:26:19.239 --> 01:26:21.479 then we find I do remember that, like he gives it to her, 1292 01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:26.079 so they don't kill Lois or something in the picture. Yeah, but the 1293 01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:30.159 way they imply it here was like they had some camaraderie, and then right 1294 01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:32.520 like that, it's played totally different here. I'm so convinced they had not 1295 01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:38.319 thought any of the throat no, because it because he even kind of looks 1296 01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:43.560 at her like why would I do that? You know, like it's it 1297 01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:47.399 just was a strange choice. Yeah, it's it's it's strange, so amazing 1298 01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:54.840 technicolor kryptonite plus one because she throws down on that blue kryptonite and again, 1299 01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:57.239 in my head, candidates, it's been coming in and out of that lad 1300 01:26:57.279 --> 01:26:59.880 pouch. I assume the whole time. That's why she's from power Strings. 1301 01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:03.720 Yeah, yeah, good enough. But Clark's all confused, like we're from 1302 01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:08.199 the same world, kellel and this is my only chance of defeating you. 1303 01:27:08.359 --> 01:27:11.720 I did like this is a good strategy because it's like, Okay, me 1304 01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:15.359 versus him, he's gonna beat me. We're superpowered, but if we're not, 1305 01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:18.680 he doesn't know how to fight. I was a sword for some reason. 1306 01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:27.920 Yeah, he travels back in time for some reason. Is this weird 1307 01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:31.399 trend with the blue Kryptonite though that they keep doing? They do in the 1308 01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:35.399 season finale too, like that even though they don't have their powers, they 1309 01:27:35.479 --> 01:27:41.680 still have some matrix powers. You know, she does like that backflip. 1310 01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:44.479 I'm like, Okay, that's not you can't do that as a human, 1311 01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:46.840 right, Yeah, but it is. It was the It was the playground 1312 01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:51.319 scene in Daredevils, which I defended. I like it a lot. That's 1313 01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:57.600 a bad scene, yes, I agreed, But no, it's like poetry 1314 01:27:57.680 --> 01:28:01.319 at rhymes because the blue Kryptonite thing is the fight between Zad and Clark and 1315 01:28:01.359 --> 01:28:03.960 the finale, which is my favorite fight on the Shield, my favorite episode 1316 01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:06.399 of the show. Really, yeah, this is not a finale, and 1317 01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:11.680 I think this is a pretty good fight, right, what do you think 1318 01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:16.479 here in the barn? Yeah? I like it because I I like that 1319 01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:20.760 Clark. Yeah, you know, Clark kind of office game a little bit. 1320 01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:24.560 You know. He said he has to kind of improvise and he has 1321 01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:28.640 to think on his feet because he hasn't always been good at that, you 1322 01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:31.039 know. But I feel like by this, by this point in his career. 1323 01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:36.359 He's, uh, it's it's coming across it. He's he's learning and 1324 01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:41.239 he's he's figuring out like, okay, don't have my powers. How am 1325 01:28:41.279 --> 01:28:46.119 I gonna How am I gonna do this? And it and I appreciate it 1326 01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:50.279 that Like I felt, like I said earlier, I that this Clark seems 1327 01:28:50.279 --> 01:28:54.680 to now finally be learning, right, you know, he gets to he's 1328 01:28:54.840 --> 01:28:58.159 improving as a fighter, which is good. He's I'm gonna assume he had 1329 01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:01.640 some hand to hand combat trade which are uh yeah, yeah, maybe maybe 1330 01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:03.920 after talking to him about the doomsday fell like, yeah, man, didn 1331 01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:08.279 I didn't even throw off a punch, like he canna canna help me? 1332 01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:14.960 Trained me up with? This goes to Drell like rubbing his shoulders, start 1333 01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:21.960 clock getting there. It was. It was cool and funny at the same 1334 01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:27.399 time to see Clark Hugh's farm equipment versus the ninja sword. Yeah yeah, 1335 01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:30.840 he's I don't know, but you know, he seemed capable. He seemed 1336 01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:32.119 like, like you said, off his game, but still like capable and 1337 01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:36.000 like, okay, cool cool, And of course, through a series of 1338 01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:41.319 you know, unfortunate events, she hits a thing, that hits another thing 1339 01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:45.199 and then pillows herself on the sword and he's not responsible. There's no blood 1340 01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:47.239 on his hands, right, right, But is that classic? Like Oh, 1341 01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:49.880 I fell on my weapon because the thing hit me and now I'm dead 1342 01:29:50.039 --> 01:29:56.039 and she's like I'm so sorry. I'm like what yeah, but from what? 1343 01:29:56.399 --> 01:29:58.159 Like oh? She also says Early like he's like, why are you 1344 01:29:58.199 --> 01:30:00.800 gonna? What are you after me? He's like, because you destroy our 1345 01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:04.920 world. I'm like, so this is all so vague and it's so taking 1346 01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:09.920 out of context. It's like this is this is some jj abrams stuff for 1347 01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:14.840 going to you know, mystery Box bs. It's the writing. It's the 1348 01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:18.199 writing of the mystery box without writing the ending. And he's just notorious for 1349 01:30:18.279 --> 01:30:23.439 that, even going back to like Alias. Right, I'm sure they did 1350 01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:28.079 stuff like that on Felicity too, but I don't know mystery Box on Felicity. 1351 01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:32.199 It's just irritating. Like, you know, I took a playwriting class 1352 01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:38.039 and you know, the teacher was talking about, you know, writing mysteries 1353 01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:41.000 because that's what she likes to write. And she's like, I have to 1354 01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:45.479 know the ending first, though, you know, because otherwise because everything can 1355 01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:49.079 build to that, because that's the most important part. And it was sort 1356 01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:53.359 of like obvious, but also like, yeah, that doesn't make a lot 1357 01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:57.720 of sense, doesn't it. And when these shows and movies do these mystery 1358 01:30:57.800 --> 01:31:00.319 box things, like you know, when talking about the Terminator stuff earlier, 1359 01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:05.159 like Terminator Genesis was just this whole big two hour mystery box that was like, 1360 01:31:05.239 --> 01:31:08.640 well, well, we'll tell you in the sequel. He's like, 1361 01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:14.199 no, idiot, tell me now, those finals are not accessible by you. 1362 01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:18.359 Yeah, it's just so ridiculous. Was when I was rewatching and I 1363 01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:23.279 was like, you know what, this this stuff in the Change nineteen eighty 1364 01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:26.640 four. This is the best part of the movie. Like they should have 1365 01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:30.760 just kept this going. What is worse, Terminator Genesis or Terminator Dark Fate. 1366 01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:38.319 I'd go Genesis, I agree because the recasting everyone is awful. Yeah, 1367 01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:44.359 Like, I'm sorry Denaris Yea and Captain Boumrang, you guys are not 1368 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:50.000 Sarah Connor and kyleish And but they're both to me, those are both the 1369 01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:54.439 worst Terminator movies. But at least, at least in Terminator Dark Fate the 1370 01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:58.720 first two movies happen. Yeah, like like what you would you fail to 1371 01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:01.119 understand when Terminator Genesis fell to understand. It's like, oh, you guys 1372 01:32:01.159 --> 01:32:04.239 didn't like the third and fourth one, we'll ignore those. We'll also go 1373 01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:09.800 back in time and erase the first and second. So it's like, no, 1374 01:32:09.960 --> 01:32:13.560 you're you're you're almost learning the right lesson, but you're still getting like 1375 01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:17.520 a D plus. Like because I like the very opening of Genesis. I 1376 01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:23.079 like they're like Judgment Day nineteen twenty seven and you see the purple lasers and 1377 01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:25.399 the I'm like, oh, this is this is what I wanted the whole 1378 01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:29.840 time. And then like fifteen minutes later it's his bunch of bs like Skynet 1379 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.960 is Genesis, Like are you doing? He's talking to himself in the mirror, 1380 01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:35.000 and I'm like, And then the way he explains it to him at 1381 01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:38.680 the end of the film, I was just like, you shut up. 1382 01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:43.800 You shut all the way up right now. That is not okay. Arnold's 1383 01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:47.359 a two one thousand at the end. Yeah, it's like, just just 1384 01:32:47.520 --> 01:32:53.399 let him die, man, let him die. I don't know, man 1385 01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:58.119 like I I will tell you I really liked him of Your Salvation. So 1386 01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:00.960 tonight, that's the movie I always wanted. It was the future movie. 1387 01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:04.720 Yeah, if it just looked like dark and purple lasers, you know, 1388 01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:08.800 and then you know that's the case of like this the kind of b as 1389 01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:11.199 they do today all the time. It makes everybody mad, right, one 1390 01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:13.399 of this is one of the first cases when they had the c gionod source 1391 01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:15.319 and Ator teen hundred at the end. Yes, I was like, that's 1392 01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:18.319 perfect, that's fine. Like he first of all, hear a robot, 1393 01:33:18.680 --> 01:33:21.000 he's he's he's supposed to look fake, you know, if you really want 1394 01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:23.760 to go down that road, like you don't have fake. He looked in 1395 01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:28.319 the first terminator with the rubber point full the eye out, but you hear 1396 01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:30.720 that, you hear the terminator theme and he's fighting. I'm like, that 1397 01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:31.800 was so excited. I don't know. I really enjoyed it for what it 1398 01:33:31.960 --> 01:33:35.079 was. And it's appropriate because like, yeah, they're making that terminator like 1399 01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:40.359 anyway, yeah, that anyway, it's but it did something different too, 1400 01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:45.000 like Terminator three. It came out, but Terminatoo three, Terminator Genesis, 1401 01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:47.560 and Dark Fate make Terminator three look like Terminator two, you know, yeah, 1402 01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:54.279 and Terminator three is just this really weird, like you know, we 1403 01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.840 we have the property and we have to do something with it. It's like 1404 01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:01.960 you you don't though, Yeah, it's it's okay if you don't, or 1405 01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:05.640 what years it just make your future war movie, like you get wha, 1406 01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:11.159 it's it's two thousand and three. We have we this is September twenty fifth, 1407 01:34:11.159 --> 01:34:14.760 two thousand and nine. Right, So there's there's some good like a 1408 01:34:15.439 --> 01:34:16.880 well, there's some good like emotional bits and stuff in it, but you 1409 01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:20.319 know, it's I and I think the ending is bold, you know, 1410 01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:24.840 uh small small those are like the ending of Terminator three. The title, 1411 01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:30.079 you know, I it's funny. I was listening to the movie Film podcast, 1412 01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:33.359 you know Zekissan. I think I think he's a mutual friend. He 1413 01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:38.079 uh. He was talking about that and how he's like, I'm pretty sure 1414 01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:43.000 they show that nuclear arm shot in Smallville and Lexi's a vision of himself as 1415 01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:45.319 the president, and I was like, not just there, my friend, 1416 01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:49.279 Yeah, multiple times, multiple times. Yeah. I think the biggest problem 1417 01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:55.279 in Terminy three is like the recasting John Connor and then like the no Sarah 1418 01:34:55.319 --> 01:35:00.119 Connor, and then it's and then it's like it's all in the daytime for 1419 01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:03.159 some reason, isn't it. It's it's just like we can't it's cheaper shooting 1420 01:35:03.159 --> 01:35:06.880 the days, so they just I don't know, like it's it's it's harmless, 1421 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:10.880 I guess. At the same time it's like unnecessary, and but in 1422 01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:14.520 retrospect it's like, I don't know, it's there's a lot worse Terminator movies 1423 01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:15.640 out there than Terminator three. You can do a lot worse, I guess, 1424 01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:19.119 and versuspect, but anyway, it's true. Yeah, oh man, 1425 01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:23.479 And I always like, wait a minute, what did you was it the 1426 01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:29.159 sunflowers and like lex seen into the World? Oh yeah, yeah, because 1427 01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:30.840 they in the mixing and matching all that stuff at some point, I think, 1428 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:33.760 I think we we joke about it, but I think we see the 1429 01:35:33.840 --> 01:35:41.319 Terminator three footage twice. Yeah, and we see it in season four and 1430 01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:45.359 season seven. But the White House footage they mix in there as well is 1431 01:35:45.399 --> 01:35:48.720 from season one, and that's where it tricks you. So anyway, yeah, 1432 01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:54.720 always on a Terminator. Yeah, I mean we got time travel and 1433 01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:58.279 all. There's a precedent for us talking about this. Yeah, Cripple lightning 1434 01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:04.279 came out of the sky from It's Assassin from the feature. Okay, oh 1435 01:36:05.279 --> 01:36:09.720 so there you go. Yeah, this woman killed herself and clark Berries are 1436 01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:12.159 in the back of the farm because we see a shovel later, So I 1437 01:36:12.199 --> 01:36:15.800 guess that's war, which which I thought. I was, like, what 1438 01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:20.560 an uncomfortable day. How are you gonna feel every time you walk by that? 1439 01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:30.319 Clark god get buried on the back forty has been Hubbard's problem. Now, 1440 01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:38.760 yeah, they arrested Ben Hubbard for this body they found feel I'd never 1441 01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:44.000 seen it before in my life. So, oh, do you think Clark 1442 01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:47.359 kept both those watches? No, that's great. If he ever loses his 1443 01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:49.680 dad's watch, he has a backup. That's fantastic. Yeah, he just 1444 01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:53.800 has to remember that it's a except for a year in the future. No, 1445 01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:56.319 you just you wind it up, you change the date, and then 1446 01:36:56.319 --> 01:37:00.920 you get the watch base replaced like the glass solid. Well yeah, well 1447 01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:02.520 there you go. One can stay in the safe and you know, it's 1448 01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:06.319 like it's like collectibles, right ones for the packaging and once wants to play 1449 01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:13.760 with exactly exactly. So do we have Lois patching up Oliver. She tries 1450 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:17.119 to hype him up. They make some jokes about her being an X and 1451 01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:19.279 he's like, yeah, you're not like the rest. I'm still trying to 1452 01:37:19.319 --> 01:37:21.880 get you back in my bed. I'm like, oh, Oliver's so edgy. 1453 01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:26.239 I'm like, you know, I really shipped you guys for a couple 1454 01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:28.479 of years. I'm kind of over that now, So can we just move 1455 01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:31.680 on from this? Like yeah, anyway, I don't know, Like this 1456 01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:34.840 is her just kind of trying to get him back into the game basically, 1457 01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:40.720 and I guess it works. Yeah, And it's I don't know, just 1458 01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:45.640 as hardly for as kind of drunken stupid as he's supposed to be coming off, 1459 01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:48.279 he's not coming across that way. So him saying so him saying that 1460 01:37:48.399 --> 01:37:50.960 line like oh, I haven't gotten you back in my bed yet, it 1461 01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:54.119 was a little bit like, all right, I feel like you're just being 1462 01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:56.880 a dick, Like, yeah, you need to be way more under the 1463 01:37:56.960 --> 01:37:59.880 influence of something. He's saying that, Like, I want to see full 1464 01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:03.039 Kevin from this is us, Right, You're not quite there yet, right, 1465 01:38:03.479 --> 01:38:06.840 So that's where we leave all of them. I honestly don't remember the 1466 01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:11.079 next time we see him this season. It could be the next episode. 1467 01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:15.159 I don't know. I know at some point they run into Roulette and that 1468 01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:17.840 gets him back on the right path of Chloe, and that starts their whole 1469 01:38:17.880 --> 01:38:21.119 thing. That's that's what I know. Well even before that is the toy 1470 01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:28.840 man of course, of course, and he's burning his suit in an alley 1471 01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:31.359 somewhere, right, yeah, yeah, what are we doing? What are 1472 01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:36.399 we doing with scar? So? Yeah, we cut back to Luther matching, 1473 01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:40.319 and I guess they decided to put Zod and Tests on trial or something. 1474 01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:44.239 I'm really sure what's going on here? Yeah, some sort of people's 1475 01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:47.760 court. Yeah, the chairs, like the spotlight on him, like the 1476 01:38:47.880 --> 01:38:51.840 light design like literally these guys, right, yeah, and they're in a 1477 01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:58.520 whole other show. It really is, It really is, so Fiora and 1478 01:38:58.680 --> 01:39:03.600 and uh Captain Pike, they're they're still like asking the same like, hey, 1479 01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:05.840 they're supposed to be hundred of us, there's only dozens, Like what's 1480 01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:11.720 going on here? And they Tests is trying to like play them against Zod, 1481 01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:15.000 and Zod sees that and kind of respects that, and he basically like, 1482 01:39:15.680 --> 01:39:18.560 well, well, also what very important put him information? Fayori says, 1483 01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:21.039 like last thing we all remember is our blood was taken before the Battle 1484 01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:26.600 of Candor. I'm like okay here, like this plot, like when they 1485 01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:29.880 reveal all the mysteries, it actually all makes sense, yes, yes, 1486 01:39:30.319 --> 01:39:34.760 unlike the other one, like this mystery box has a payoff and we'll talk 1487 01:39:34.760 --> 01:39:36.920 about that when the time comes. But like all this stuff they sprinkle in 1488 01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:41.000 here, I'm like, oh, that actually tracks when we when we see 1489 01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:43.760 it happen. I like that. I respect that. Yeah. But then 1490 01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:45.560 Zod gets up and just chokes Captain Pike and kind of takes back control of 1491 01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.399 the room. And he I mean, good for him, right, He's 1492 01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:50.680 like, he's like, do you want a lada who would go out and 1493 01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:54.760 such for you at a aust what? Like? He wins the crowd back 1494 01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:58.199 over right, And I and this you really kind of sees a charismatic guy 1495 01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:00.079 and you can you can buy why all these people serve him and follow him. 1496 01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:03.039 I'm like, this is great. This is very character establishing, and 1497 01:40:03.079 --> 01:40:06.399 they need a great job with this whole him like winning back the crowd so 1498 01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:11.079 to speak. Yeah, no, I agree, And it was and it 1499 01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:15.279 was a really good speech too, right. I believed that they would fall 1500 01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:18.640 back in line, you know, because like I just found like you know, 1501 01:40:18.680 --> 01:40:23.800 when when Tess was talking and and they're all just kind of look at 1502 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:26.279 each other like, oh, what do we trust this woman or not, 1503 01:40:26.560 --> 01:40:30.920 and I just remember thinking, like, dude, test, that was terrible. 1504 01:40:30.159 --> 01:40:33.039 Like, you know, they'll be on your side for about eight seconds 1505 01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:38.960 before they start poking holes in your story. So when when Zog stands up 1506 01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:43.119 and just basically is like, you know, I'm I am your leader, 1507 01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:45.039 I've been your leader. I'm going to continue being your leader, like I've 1508 01:40:45.079 --> 01:40:49.640 saved all of your lives. Right in the quest I'm buying with this guy 1509 01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:53.680 selling Yeah, it's like you know what, I'm following him too. You 1510 01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:57.159 know, it's like you said, he's very charismatic. And this is the 1511 01:40:57.199 --> 01:41:00.760 side of odd we have never really seen, right the hero the pe because 1512 01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:02.159 you always hear about he was this great hero and it's great, everybody loved 1513 01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:04.359 him, and but we always see the other side of that. And this 1514 01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:08.279 is why it's good to see major zat JJ. Yeah, yeah, you're 1515 01:41:09.319 --> 01:41:12.479 right, and I'm on board right now. And there's some great camera work 1516 01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:14.199 too. Here. It's like kind of like I don't know, it's moving 1517 01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:16.399 around and it's like at certain angles I don't know, like I really like 1518 01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:19.840 for some reason, Luther Ranchon looks like the apocalypse happened, by the way, 1519 01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:24.800 I don't know why it's all like green and shaky. Like I said, 1520 01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:28.640 it's a different show. It's really And if you look at some of 1521 01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:30.680 these shots, you see the spotlight. You literally see the spotlights. Ye, 1522 01:41:30.920 --> 01:41:34.000 they found up on the trusses. It's very strange. Yeah. Now, 1523 01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:39.000 I I'm looking at a screen shot here because I have to do this, 1524 01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:42.159 not the last on a crypton thing, right that I do. Okay, 1525 01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:45.439 I knew the season was gonna be a problem because there's so many Cantorians, 1526 01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:48.199 right, but I'm looking at the screen shot. I'm gonna count one, 1527 01:41:49.159 --> 01:41:51.680 two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 1528 01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:56.079 nine ten. I've been twelve thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, 1529 01:41:56.119 --> 01:41:58.560 eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, 1530 01:41:58.840 --> 01:42:06.159 four five thirty looks like thirty one. We're gonna go with that for 1531 01:42:06.279 --> 01:42:10.319 now. That will be an evolving, changing number. But I knew, 1532 01:42:10.359 --> 01:42:12.800 like when I did this, I was dreading this season and I'm like, 1533 01:42:12.840 --> 01:42:15.199 well, all like it's like a one hundred of these guys come up an 1534 01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:18.479 orb. There'll be another white shot somewhere, I know. Let down the 1535 01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:21.079 road. Like the very end, he's like Neil before Kalel that big scene 1536 01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:25.039 at the end of the finale, like I'll do another count then, but 1537 01:42:25.159 --> 01:42:27.039 I don't know what we'll see where you go with that. But but no, 1538 01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:28.960 he went to the room and then he doesn't little he looks over his 1539 01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:32.560 shoulder. He turns to mister Fantastic and he smiles as tests and its last 1540 01:42:32.560 --> 01:42:35.800 smile there that I always thought was a great bit too, because it just 1541 01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:42.399 yea, you you get their dynamic right away, like the way she thinks 1542 01:42:42.479 --> 01:42:45.279 she has him on the ropes and then he's got her in the ropes. 1543 01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:47.960 But but they're not neither one of them are angry with the other, right, 1544 01:42:48.079 --> 01:42:50.640 they're just sort of like like, oh okay, so that's how it 1545 01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:54.880 is, you know. Yeah, It's just it's so refreshing because the dynamic 1546 01:42:54.920 --> 01:42:58.600 we haven't seen on the show before, and we've already we've already come to 1547 01:42:58.640 --> 01:43:00.359 love and no Tests, like they did real good job with her in season 1548 01:43:00.399 --> 01:43:02.640 eight, like especially Cassidy Freeman. I said that every time, but like 1549 01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:05.680 she's the new Lex, but now like it's a whole new ballgame now, 1550 01:43:06.119 --> 01:43:11.279 so like she she's established, so she she she's not a new and even 1551 01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:13.439 Zad's not even a new character. Really, I mean, he is, 1552 01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:15.279 but he's not. So like this this helps with all this going on. 1553 01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:19.319 So this is they've laid some great ground work here. Moving forward to me 1554 01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:23.039 come back to the Kent Farm and like we're talking about, Clark is coming 1555 01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:28.079 in from buried the Body and sin Alverard's property to frame him from murder. 1556 01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:31.359 You know, Clark, Tom Willie's doing a really kind of detached kind of 1557 01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:34.720 performance here and like that works, like he's you know, it's you can 1558 01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:38.319 tell it's a different Clark than than what we've seeing and he's doing a good 1559 01:43:38.399 --> 01:43:42.960 job there. But because because Chloe's here and they're here to talk about, 1560 01:43:43.880 --> 01:43:45.000 you know, what happened. And she's like, well, what's what's what 1561 01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:47.840 was the deal? And Clark's like, yeah, she said I caused it 1562 01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:51.319 in the world, yeah Chloe. Chloe's like, well what does she know? 1563 01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:57.239 And he's like the future. It's like yeah, this is well that's 1564 01:43:57.920 --> 01:44:01.760 it's pretty solid. I mean, can't argue with that one. But but 1565 01:44:01.880 --> 01:44:04.920 here we come we come to it, like Chloe's here to ask Clark to 1566 01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:08.279 go back in time to use the ring and save Jimmy. And to your 1567 01:44:08.279 --> 01:44:13.159 point, JJ, they fumbled the set up for this entirely. Yeah, 1568 01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:19.680 but at the same time, I I still buy that she would ask this 1569 01:44:19.800 --> 01:44:24.159 at this point, you know, So, yeah, they fumbled the set 1570 01:44:24.239 --> 01:44:28.880 up, but I still found this scene to be really, really great, 1571 01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:31.279 and it gives, you know, Tom and Allison something different to do because 1572 01:44:31.760 --> 01:44:36.359 usually they are very buddy buddy and here they're just you know, they're they're 1573 01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:42.560 just you know, hair away from just never speaking to each other again. 1574 01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:45.920 No, that's true. It is because we've spent so much time with these 1575 01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:48.960 characters. There's some real weight and emotions between them. So the scene doesn't 1576 01:44:48.960 --> 01:44:53.520 really work. And you know, and to be fair like it never occurred 1577 01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:56.439 to me until you brought it up, like, oh, they missed the 1578 01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:59.399 opportunity. You need that shot of Chloe picking up the ring in the hospital, 1579 01:44:59.479 --> 01:45:01.039 like looking at at it, and you can kind of see her come 1580 01:45:01.119 --> 01:45:03.439 like, I'm gonna ask Clark to do this, Yes, because of course 1581 01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:05.720 if you had a time machine, she's gonna ask Clark to save Jimmy. 1582 01:45:05.880 --> 01:45:10.039 Right. She's like, it's our fault, he said. I'm like, 1583 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:15.600 whoa, Chloe, slow your role It is a thousand percent you're a fault. 1584 01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:18.279 Your husband is dead because you chose to gaslight him and pick the alien 1585 01:45:18.359 --> 01:45:28.600 werewolf monster over him. Let's be rich. Like, let's so, you're 1586 01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:31.199 really trying to put this on Clark. I don't Clark feels guilty for everything 1587 01:45:31.239 --> 01:45:34.560 he does. Oh yeah, so sure, I get it right, but 1588 01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:38.039 don't like lean into that, but don't put Clark. Don't put that on 1589 01:45:38.119 --> 01:45:40.159 this on Clark. He tried to get rid of Davis so many time you 1590 01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:42.720 took away his phantom zone, Crystal. He was going to send him off 1591 01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:44.760 to the phantom zone, and you're like, come on, Davis, let's 1592 01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:48.960 go. He's being mean. I'm like, this is anyway. I very 1593 01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:53.119 disappointed in Chloe and her choices on and off the show, frankly, but 1594 01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:58.800 dare you. I love how he snaps at her, you know, like 1595 01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:00.279 I'm not a god, Like you can't ask me to do that. And 1596 01:46:01.399 --> 01:46:09.039 I find I found it really kind of refreshing because it's it's Clark. You 1597 01:46:09.119 --> 01:46:11.800 know, He's always happy to use his powers to help Chloe out, Like 1598 01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:16.119 in the the one episode he like you know, melted all the snow on 1599 01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:19.239 her commute to work, right, you know, like he's he's always like 1600 01:46:19.319 --> 01:46:23.479 looking out for and stuff. He pull those clouds away that time so they 1601 01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:27.920 could go to Clark. Remember it was great, right, but it's it's 1602 01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:30.119 nice in this situation for him to say, like, you know, you 1603 01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:33.119 can't just use me as you're kid out a GEO free card, right, 1604 01:46:33.279 --> 01:46:38.680 you know. It's I found there to be a really like strong, like 1605 01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:43.279 emotional reality to that, Like hundred percent get where Chloe's coming from. But 1606 01:46:43.479 --> 01:46:45.159 I also respected Clark for putting his foot down and saying, no, I 1607 01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:48.720 can't do that, and and here's a really damn good reason why I can't 1608 01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:54.920 because I did and it you know, now we're in the darkest time whine. 1609 01:46:56.840 --> 01:46:59.159 No, it totally tracks like for him to go back to that every 1610 01:46:59.199 --> 01:47:01.000 time about he's like time travel. Like he's even even gets mad at Booster 1611 01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:03.600 Gold later in the show and he's like, I messed around the time my 1612 01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:06.479 dad died and like, yeah, like it's not a hypothetical, it's like, 1613 01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:10.399 no, I did this and something the worst thing ever happened. Yeah, 1614 01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:13.279 and I'm not doing it again. I totally buy that he would have 1615 01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:17.600 this stance about it, right, and that's very consistent. So she's like, 1616 01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:20.840 I've given up so much and I've never asked you to do anything. 1617 01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:24.520 I'm like, Chloe, I'm sure you've asked him to do something before. 1618 01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:27.880 And again no, you're right, though, I understand I understand why she 1619 01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:30.039 would ask this, Yes, yeah, but I don't like how she's all 1620 01:47:30.119 --> 01:47:33.800 like this is all your fault too, and I've never asked for anything. 1621 01:47:34.039 --> 01:47:38.279 You're the it's like you're really overplaying your hand if you want him to help 1622 01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:44.640 you. Yeah, it's it's very h it's just so like manipulative and narcissistic 1623 01:47:44.720 --> 01:47:47.359 almost like yeah, you know, like well, everything I've done for you, 1624 01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:53.680 it's like okay, well like like come on and and and you know, 1625 01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:55.760 let's face it, you know, like Season eight kind of proved it, 1626 01:47:55.880 --> 01:48:00.479 like Chloe has sacrificed a lot for Clark. But at the same time, 1627 01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:03.239 it's like you can't, you know, you can't do that. You 1628 01:48:03.319 --> 01:48:08.520 can't you can't just take advantage of what he can do or the connections he 1629 01:48:08.600 --> 01:48:13.640 has, you know, it's like it's you know, it's it's just kind 1630 01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:16.079 of it's it's a little too much. And maybe that was the real Alice 1631 01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:20.000 and Matt coming through just a little bit there. Well, it's good that 1632 01:48:20.039 --> 01:48:26.000 he's embracing his toonian side because there really isn't anything human left in him anymore. 1633 01:48:26.279 --> 01:48:30.000 J J. What a burn. Just she got him and and I 1634 01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:35.039 love that. He just kind of reacts like, well, yeah, you 1635 01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:41.760 know the way out feel. So then we go back to the Luther mansion. 1636 01:48:41.800 --> 01:48:45.680 The Cantorians have all left, and security guard George is like, well, 1637 01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:47.359 man, you told us not to interfere in or any circumstances. She's 1638 01:48:47.359 --> 01:48:49.119 like, oh, yeah, I'll bet you guys enjoyed that home. Like 1639 01:48:49.800 --> 01:49:00.960 god, it was it was a strangely like just a strangely vibe scene. 1640 01:49:01.039 --> 01:49:03.479 I don't know, Like it was just I'm like, are we supposed to 1641 01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:06.119 have? Is there supposed to be a dynamic here that we don't know about? 1642 01:49:06.399 --> 01:49:10.960 You all hate each other? Yeah, you're just employees. Yeah. 1643 01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:15.319 It was just it was a it was a very strange like like I don't 1644 01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:16.560 know, like you said, like, well you're all fired, like you 1645 01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:20.920 know kind of a thing. But at the same time, like it's almost 1646 01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:25.399 like we needed that scene. We needed her talking to them and saying, 1647 01:49:26.279 --> 01:49:30.279 you know, don't don't interfere under any circumstances, and then them like you 1648 01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:33.760 know, eating popcorn, watching her kidting beat up or something making fun of 1649 01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:38.640 her or something, because otherwise it's just just like, oh, there's a 1650 01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:42.359 lot of stuff we're supposed to assume here, but but I can't focus on 1651 01:49:42.479 --> 01:49:48.239 that because that that damn flag is gone and everything's fine now in luther Mansion. 1652 01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:55.359 Yeah they went to printing out those flags, but yeah, like the 1653 01:49:55.439 --> 01:49:58.079 fatigues, even the dog tags, like, but the flag. Okay. 1654 01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:01.319 But anyway, this is the and I think all this is why we have 1655 01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:04.000 this weird three week time period, not like three months, not like one 1656 01:50:04.039 --> 01:50:08.479 week. It's it's like, wait, so Tess was like in a room 1657 01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:12.079 for a week for three weeks, right, Yeah, you can't have her 1658 01:50:12.199 --> 01:50:15.000 capture for three months and then because it's like how does Luther Coorp? Even 1659 01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:17.239 function when she's not there? And but they don't want to make it too 1660 01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:19.640 short because they want to have some time because Clark has to be to have 1661 01:50:19.760 --> 01:50:24.520 doing his thing. It's funny they all say a few weeks a lot in 1662 01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:28.439 this episode, Like I'm like, y'all, three weeks, Yeah, that's 1663 01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:31.079 really at the bare minimum, a few weeks, Like like, anyway, 1664 01:50:31.880 --> 01:50:33.680 to me, a few weeks is like a month and a half at least. 1665 01:50:34.399 --> 01:50:36.560 But I think this is where they all get hung up. We're like, 1666 01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:40.279 they have all these story ideas they want to do, but they can't 1667 01:50:40.319 --> 01:50:42.479 show how we got where we are, so they just have some weird time. 1668 01:50:42.520 --> 01:50:44.159 Like you said, like we didn't see any of the setup for this, 1669 01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:46.800 which white feels. The resolution feels real weird and unbalanced and completely because 1670 01:50:46.800 --> 01:50:50.600 we didn't see the set up. But right, and as I recall, 1671 01:50:50.720 --> 01:50:55.880 we lose security guard George this season. He's I think he gets skilled by 1672 01:50:55.920 --> 01:51:00.520 a zombie. I think, yeah, because that's a real episode that happens. 1673 01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:02.760 Yeah, because he's he's been around since the Lionel days of pouring out 1674 01:51:02.760 --> 01:51:10.520 for George coming up, right, But he's got all that video surrealience. 1675 01:51:10.720 --> 01:51:13.159 We'll be We've been going through these hours of footage man, and oh wait, 1676 01:51:13.239 --> 01:51:15.479 it's all gone, Oh no, how did this happen? And she's 1677 01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:18.880 like, I guess since they travel galaxies, they can hack our computer system, 1678 01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:26.159 like, oh, I'll allow it. That's fine, I guess even 1679 01:51:26.239 --> 01:51:31.960 though the technology on Krypton or Krypton as a calum Blue keeps calling it is 1680 01:51:32.479 --> 01:51:39.760 all crystals, So but sure, you know what, fine, I can 1681 01:51:39.960 --> 01:51:44.720 I can buy it because they're like a trained military unit, and even when 1682 01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:47.479 we see them later in the season, they clearly have been around for a 1683 01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:53.960 while, so they seem very capable circumstances. Yeah, so I can I 1684 01:51:54.039 --> 01:51:57.399 can kind of buy it. I just like the test finally install some cameras 1685 01:51:57.439 --> 01:52:00.359 in this Luther mansion and like Lex, like Clark has been doing things there 1686 01:52:00.399 --> 01:52:01.840 for years, and the only place Lex seems as a camera is in a 1687 01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:06.079 lot of his bedroom. You know, well, if you had to pick 1688 01:52:06.199 --> 01:52:12.760 one place, like there's how many times does Clark run through those hallways or 1689 01:52:13.960 --> 01:52:18.079 like every episode of seasons like five, six and seven, good in my 1690 01:52:18.199 --> 01:52:20.760 shafe, I don't know, you don't have a camera on it anyway. 1691 01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:26.960 So then we get the lowest at the Daily Planet. She can't walg in, 1692 01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:30.000 yeah, because she's been a wall for three weeks and she's been fired. 1693 01:52:30.119 --> 01:52:33.359 Of course she can't walg in, of course. And then we hear 1694 01:52:33.439 --> 01:52:36.640 the we hear the little squeaky chair, yeah, and it's like, oh, 1695 01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:39.520 it's like poetry and rhyme. She's like, oh Clark, no, 1696 01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:45.800 it's cop John Corbyn. Right, Yeah, she still thinks he's a cop. 1697 01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:51.640 Yeah, And it was just a I did think it was cute that 1698 01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:56.800 she had kind of the same smile, thinking it was Clark that when she 1699 01:52:56.880 --> 01:53:00.720 saw the s you know, so it's like, you know, it's like 1700 01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:02.840 just like a nice little continuity on Erica's part, like, oh, she's 1701 01:53:03.199 --> 01:53:09.840 she really loves them, even subconsciously she knows. Yeah. Yeah. But 1702 01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:13.319 John Corbyn, he's like, I'm a field reporter spent some time in Afghanistan 1703 01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:15.319 because it's the early two thousands, and that's what everybody did, regardless of 1704 01:53:15.399 --> 01:53:19.279 your career. Everybody spent some time in the stand. Of course. I 1705 01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:24.800 just I just think of Diggle calling it the stand all the time. What 1706 01:53:25.079 --> 01:53:30.720 wasn't that guy from last season, the right the oh the handshake memory guy. 1707 01:53:31.079 --> 01:53:33.520 Yes, yeah, he was in Afghanistan, wasn't he? Yeah, 1708 01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:36.800 everybody was in the stand. I'm telling him. You know that that actor 1709 01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:42.880 married Katie lots in her life. Oh wow, they're gonna make beautiful babies, 1710 01:53:43.079 --> 01:53:46.000 let me tell you. Yeah. You know, while of it, 1711 01:53:46.039 --> 01:53:51.039 when I was in the stand, I was protecting a warlord. And just 1712 01:53:51.079 --> 01:53:55.399 shut up, Diggles, just shut up. You're trying to be Alfred Like 1713 01:53:56.079 --> 01:54:04.279 I was in Boma with my mites and the size of a tangerine anyway, 1714 01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:13.239 what I don't even the John Cordy is totally a lot of so yeah, 1715 01:54:13.279 --> 01:54:16.680 he gets up the interests himself and uh and uh she's like, well a 1716 01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:19.840 fired technicality, like she's gonna go sort out. I mean, it isn't 1717 01:54:19.880 --> 01:54:23.319 test or boss doesn't test hater, Like I'm gonna talk about a ORB. 1718 01:54:23.600 --> 01:54:27.640 I remember at the very beginning she told Chloe like there was like an alien 1719 01:54:27.800 --> 01:54:30.560 orb and Chloe a merely starts gaslighting and're like, now, listen, low, 1720 01:54:30.720 --> 01:54:31.800 I think you just hit your head a little hard. I'm like you 1721 01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:35.199 people, like I hate all of you lying to your friends and family all 1722 01:54:35.239 --> 01:54:38.920 the time, Like I don't know where I feel. I complain about everyone 1723 01:54:39.039 --> 01:54:41.680 knowing that secret I didn't use in the air overse Then I get so mad 1724 01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:44.079 at all these people on small just lying to people's faces all the time. 1725 01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:46.680 I don't know where I you know what I mean? You know, I 1726 01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:50.479 mean, it's it's kind of apples and oranges, but but not but also 1727 01:54:50.600 --> 01:54:58.399 not really because it's maybe it's because they're actual superheroes and they're still figuring out 1728 01:54:58.520 --> 01:55:00.560 like that is it a cave? Clark's where's the yes? What if it's 1729 01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:05.319 just on a black T shirt. Please don't hurt me. Yeah, but 1730 01:55:05.760 --> 01:55:11.319 Lewis is gonna go iron on her job situation, and apparently John Korman's gonna 1731 01:55:11.319 --> 01:55:13.960 sit across the desk, and apparently today, of all days, is that 1732 01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:17.279 they decided to throw away Clark Kent's name tag because he's visiting family indefinitely, 1733 01:55:17.359 --> 01:55:20.119 which is technically the truth if he's up north talking to Jarrell. Yeah. 1734 01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:25.720 Yeah, but then I Lois blows it out of the trash Hopefully she cleaned 1735 01:55:25.760 --> 01:55:29.000 it off because it was it was literally in the trash can. Yeah. 1736 01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:35.000 Yeah, she has some disinfecting on her desk. That's how you get COVID. 1737 01:55:36.359 --> 01:55:43.159 Well, there's a pandemic in two episodes zombies. So uh so she 1738 01:55:43.239 --> 01:55:50.000 gets a phone call from the blur blow there trustweethos, Like what what what 1739 01:55:50.079 --> 01:55:54.920 do they? What do they say? Like, it doesn't get revealed, 1740 01:55:55.039 --> 01:55:57.760 it's not a thing. He's just like, I guess he's just gonna confide 1741 01:55:57.760 --> 01:55:59.479 in her for a while and we're not gonna hear what they said, right, 1742 01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:04.880 Yeah, it was. It was kind of interesting because I liked how 1743 01:56:04.920 --> 01:56:10.000 it started where She's like I thought I'd never hear from you again, or 1744 01:56:10.239 --> 01:56:14.039 that you disappeared forever and he said, I'm supposed to it. Yeah, 1745 01:56:14.319 --> 01:56:18.880 And and it just it had the way it was written. It felt like 1746 01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:23.840 it had a vibe of like, let's catch up because we haven't talked in 1747 01:56:23.920 --> 01:56:28.239 three weeks or whatever. But it just the way it was shot and framed 1748 01:56:28.399 --> 01:56:32.279 was very It was too abrupt of an ending. Does that make any sense? 1749 01:56:32.359 --> 01:56:34.840 You know? Like, yeah, it reminds me to mention an arrow 1750 01:56:34.880 --> 01:56:41.079 again, right, it reminds you of God. They have several Laureld eyes 1751 01:56:41.119 --> 01:56:43.520 and she's like, Oliver, I need you to promise you something and we 1752 01:56:43.640 --> 01:56:46.560 cut and that gets revealed later. Yeah, and he's like there's a juice 1753 01:56:46.600 --> 01:56:48.800 between those, right, well let me tell you. And then you're like, 1754 01:56:48.800 --> 01:56:51.039 oh, it's gonna no, It's just it's strange. Now, I 1755 01:56:51.079 --> 01:56:54.840 will say I said this last season. Do I like how they found a 1756 01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:58.800 way to work in the Clark Lewis Superman triangle and the phone booth thing? 1757 01:56:59.279 --> 01:57:01.439 Yeah? And twenty first century. I'm like, good for you. You 1758 01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:03.640 don't no way to do it, all right, because it's you know, 1759 01:57:03.840 --> 01:57:08.399 in this plays itself out by this time next season, Lois knows the secret 1760 01:57:08.479 --> 01:57:10.359 and that's that's great. She should not be in the dark that long. 1761 01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:14.479 So I enjoyed the whole dynamic there. I was just kind of like, 1762 01:57:14.880 --> 01:57:15.920 strange, again, this is all a side effect of them, Like, 1763 01:57:16.159 --> 01:57:18.560 I don't know, I guess three weeks passed and it was September fourth, 1764 01:57:18.640 --> 01:57:21.399 thought d like, it's all a side effect of that. That's where this 1765 01:57:21.479 --> 01:57:25.079 stuff is. So I guess their conversation with Will because she goes to sleep 1766 01:57:25.119 --> 01:57:30.239 and has a pretty crazy sextream about her and Clark. Huh. I was 1767 01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:33.520 like, there's a little bit of my jaw on the floor going, oh 1768 01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:38.199 my god, like this is this is steamy. That's on Friday and night 1769 01:57:38.319 --> 01:57:43.239 now my friend, Well, thank god for that. But no, it's 1770 01:57:43.239 --> 01:57:45.760 this little like Oh, by the way, I guess she's living at the 1771 01:57:45.800 --> 01:57:48.239 town apartment. Oh yeah, they made a big deal of that. I 1772 01:57:48.359 --> 01:57:50.680 she had to get run place last year. But I guess she doesn't round 1773 01:57:50.680 --> 01:57:53.640 for three weeks and they kick her out or something. And I don't know 1774 01:57:53.680 --> 01:57:57.159 what does Chloe live now. I don't know the watch up, I guess 1775 01:57:57.920 --> 01:58:01.199 one would assume is the talent even open, Like I'm really gonna keep an 1776 01:58:01.199 --> 01:58:04.680 eyem for that. This season, like do people go still buy their coffee 1777 01:58:04.720 --> 01:58:09.239 and stuff there? Right, we'll find out, we'll find out together listeners. 1778 01:58:09.319 --> 01:58:12.960 But but no, this is a little like they're getting very mystery box, 1779 01:58:13.359 --> 01:58:15.399 you know. It's it's the kind of thing where it's like we're gonna 1780 01:58:15.399 --> 01:58:17.760 show you clips of something that's not happened yet, and they have some idea 1781 01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:21.399 but they haven't quite figured it out. And we see the zadd symbol, 1782 01:58:21.560 --> 01:58:26.800 we see Chloe dying, we see Oliver and red skies and in a tower, 1783 01:58:26.960 --> 01:58:29.479 and you know, I'm again, I'm very interest to see how this 1784 01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:34.399 all plays out, if it all any of it tracks. But I guess 1785 01:58:34.439 --> 01:58:41.039 this is her memories coming back. Yeah, I guess which is they're missing. 1786 01:58:41.079 --> 01:58:45.439 We don't know, but well, it's it's such a it's such a 1787 01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:48.239 weird trope, and it's just the first time I saw it, I just 1788 01:58:48.359 --> 01:58:53.760 I remember just rolling my eyes going, you know, are we really doing 1789 01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:56.279 this? Like we you know the j J you know what this is? 1790 01:58:57.079 --> 01:59:03.079 I'm too soon. That's Bruce, It's he's the key. Lois Lane is 1791 01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:08.439 the key. It's exactly Smavel is the group within. Yeah, you're you're 1792 01:59:08.560 --> 01:59:12.840 really not wrong there, But it's just reeks of like, hey, stay 1793 01:59:12.920 --> 01:59:17.119 tuned, something's coming kind of a feeling. And but after rewatching it and 1794 01:59:17.520 --> 01:59:23.800 sort of realizing that they actually resolve it quicker than you know, they used 1795 01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:28.079 to, I kind of I gave him some credit for that. You know, 1796 01:59:28.119 --> 01:59:30.239 we didn't have to wait till episode twenty two, right, that to 1797 01:59:30.359 --> 01:59:33.880 me, that is what There's some holes in this time travel thing, right, 1798 01:59:34.479 --> 01:59:36.840 But to me, what makes it work is it's the mid season finale. 1799 01:59:38.279 --> 01:59:42.399 Yeah, like they don't in the air overse of course this would be 1800 01:59:42.760 --> 01:59:45.319 Who's in the Grave? Oh, I'm sorry, I'm late. I was 1801 01:59:45.520 --> 01:59:49.399 dealing with zoom or whatever. Right, It's like, that's that's what this 1802 01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:53.039 is. But it's like, no, we we're going to resolve this and 1803 01:59:53.119 --> 01:59:56.399 move on to something else. Well, and while those elements are still there, 1804 01:59:57.640 --> 02:00:00.000 you know, but it's not like all leading to this as the season 1805 02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:02.479 and finale that I'm actually kind of shocked they didn't. Yeah, I'm actually 1806 02:00:02.600 --> 02:00:06.520 I'm actually very glad they didn't. So right, So there you go, 1807 02:00:06.600 --> 02:00:10.720 I mean, and then Lois wakes up and this is an ongoing thing for 1808 02:00:10.800 --> 02:00:14.760 her until the you know, everything comes or at least attempts to come full 1809 02:00:14.840 --> 02:00:26.680 circle right season finale when they opened Pandora's box. You're not one of us 1810 02:00:26.720 --> 02:00:31.680 anymore. This isn't your battle. Do you admit that it's yours? The 1811 02:00:31.880 --> 02:00:35.840 human emotion is what made you the hero that you are. To joke there 1812 02:00:35.880 --> 02:00:40.760 would stop me from being the hero. I couldn't catch Small on It's New 1813 02:00:40.880 --> 02:00:51.159 Night Fridays at eight seventh Central on the CW. His abilities are none of 1814 02:00:51.279 --> 02:00:57.399 this world. He watches over everyone but has never been seen. I know 1815 02:00:57.560 --> 02:01:03.199 you're up there somewhere, and if you're luck cannot A bright symbol of truth 1816 02:01:03.359 --> 02:01:14.119 and justice will light up your darkest moment. The Small film season premiere on 1817 02:01:14.199 --> 02:01:23.239 its New Night Friday, September twenty five at eight seventh Central. Savior got 1818 02:01:23.319 --> 02:01:26.960 an eight point two out of ten on IMDb, and Neil Billy from the 1819 02:01:26.960 --> 02:01:32.239 Superman homepage gave it a one out of five. Oh my, oh my 1820 02:01:32.399 --> 02:01:34.560 god, Neil, why I used to watching the show Man? You haven't 1821 02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:40.880 liked in forever? An excerpt for some context the Here we Go. My 1822 02:01:41.039 --> 02:01:45.239 basic reaction to all of these arcs is total apathy and the execution of most 1823 02:01:45.279 --> 02:01:49.359 everything in this show, aside from Callan's imitation of Zod fails miserably. Unlike 1824 02:01:49.439 --> 02:01:53.319 last season, there's very little to root for or hope for. Here. 1825 02:01:53.640 --> 02:01:56.720 It's a bunch of whining idiots acting like a holes. Clark included, when 1826 02:01:56.720 --> 02:02:00.520 they're ready to start acting like heroes, I'll be ready to start having fun. 1827 02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:06.600 Oh that's pretty scathing. I mean, look, I get being soured 1828 02:02:06.640 --> 02:02:10.000 from the end of last season, but I thought this was a step in 1829 02:02:10.039 --> 02:02:14.640 the right direction. I would agree. You know, it's it's the if 1830 02:02:14.680 --> 02:02:17.159 they were just like if it was just like a Power Rangers thing where they 1831 02:02:17.199 --> 02:02:20.279 were just saying, hey, sorry about being mean last last week. Oh 1832 02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:25.760 it's okay, it's morphan time. You know, it gets there's there was 1833 02:02:26.600 --> 02:02:31.239 consequences to what happened, and this these first few episodes really nail that. 1834 02:02:31.479 --> 02:02:38.239 As to know how the characters are processing everything. You know, it wouldn't 1835 02:02:38.239 --> 02:02:40.720 it wouldn't be interesting if they were all just buddy buddy by the end of 1836 02:02:40.760 --> 02:02:44.800 it. So Neil, like, you know, you know, chill out 1837 02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:48.119 man. So that being said, JJ, on the on the letter grade 1838 02:02:48.159 --> 02:02:54.840 scale, what would you give Savior? Uh, you know, I think 1839 02:02:54.880 --> 02:02:58.520 I'm going to give it an A. I think it's a solid opening. 1840 02:02:58.800 --> 02:03:02.119 I think that there's you know, i'mlike Neil, I do think there's really 1841 02:03:02.159 --> 02:03:06.680 great character stuff in it. And sure there's some questionable fight scenes and stuff, 1842 02:03:06.760 --> 02:03:12.039 but it the show, like you said, it was sort of a 1843 02:03:12.119 --> 02:03:15.479 reboot of reboot, but I think it was going it was. It was 1844 02:03:15.720 --> 02:03:19.880 definitely a step in the right direction. I felt I felt comfortable where the 1845 02:03:19.920 --> 02:03:25.560 show started to take me at this point. H Yeah, I'm getting even 1846 02:03:25.600 --> 02:03:30.800 a bay solid b. I think the strength of Zod and Calum Blue in 1847 02:03:30.840 --> 02:03:35.199 that whole storyline like really elevates it because we we were really digging into some 1848 02:03:35.319 --> 02:03:41.479 of that time travel and Kryptonian assassin ye potholes, which which oh, by 1849 02:03:41.520 --> 02:03:45.119 the way, in the final scene where Zod's like needlebufolls on or everybody, 1850 02:03:45.239 --> 02:03:48.960 right, we see her from the past that right, right, so they're 1851 02:03:48.960 --> 02:03:50.920 like, oh, it's all part of this thing, right. So anyway, 1852 02:03:50.920 --> 02:03:54.640 that's another little thing that ties it all together. And she looks like 1853 02:03:54.880 --> 02:03:59.479 she looks like a lead a battle angel, except so she has blue eyes 1854 02:03:59.520 --> 02:04:02.159 and I think it has brown. She just have those piercing blue eyes, 1855 02:04:02.159 --> 02:04:05.760 the very very beautiful eyes, very insane, very insanely blue. Yeah, 1856 02:04:08.079 --> 02:04:11.760 so that's so that all that's conny. So anyway, I'm gonna go with 1857 02:04:11.840 --> 02:04:14.479 B. Like honestly, I was thinking about maybe even to be minus, 1858 02:04:14.560 --> 02:04:16.920 but I it's it's enjoyable and it really did kind of help made me feel 1859 02:04:16.920 --> 02:04:20.239 like, Okay, show, you really let me down. But I feel 1860 02:04:20.279 --> 02:04:25.720 like you're you're trying to make trying to make it right. So so, 1861 02:04:25.840 --> 02:04:28.800 like I said, off at the very top, not one of the strongest 1862 02:04:29.119 --> 02:04:31.560 premieres because I feel like they have small has so many strong premiers and finales. 1863 02:04:32.039 --> 02:04:35.960 Yea, and it's not. But again, like it's still enjoyable, 1864 02:04:36.319 --> 02:04:40.039 like not a disaster, not by any means, Like I'm enjoyable and and 1865 02:04:40.319 --> 02:04:43.600 I just feel like, yeah, you know what was the grades will continue 1866 02:04:43.680 --> 02:04:45.960 to increase let the season goes. It's a long way back from that D 1867 02:04:46.079 --> 02:04:51.720 minus I gave doomsday. Okay, so h A for me, B for 1868 02:04:51.840 --> 02:04:56.119 you. Let's go with the tally board. It's actually quite a long tally 1869 02:04:56.159 --> 02:04:58.840 board. This week. We have a plus one for amazing technical or cryptonite 1870 02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:02.439 that brings us to fifteen. We have plus one for amnesia count because Lois 1871 02:05:03.600 --> 02:05:09.640 as amnesia that brings us to sixty six. Plus one for Clark loses his 1872 02:05:09.720 --> 02:05:13.000 powers because of Blue the Bluecrupt Knight, which was the amazing thing Niclor Crypt 1873 02:05:13.079 --> 02:05:15.880 Night. That brings us to fourteen. Plus one for hospital visit because Lois 1874 02:05:15.920 --> 02:05:18.479 one to the hospital. That brings us to one hundred and thirty four. 1875 02:05:21.159 --> 02:05:25.000 We have a plus one for knock out to keep Clark's secret that brings us 1876 02:05:25.039 --> 02:05:28.119 to fifty four. We have a plus one for let's do the time warp 1877 02:05:28.159 --> 02:05:30.840 again because we have time travel back from the future. That brings us to 1878 02:05:30.960 --> 02:05:34.720 seven. Like I said, I'm very curious to see if they ever explained 1879 02:05:34.760 --> 02:05:38.399 why the Lesion ring didn't work right. Costume boy, he gave me a 1880 02:05:38.439 --> 02:05:42.359 bad faulty ring for something a year. It's supposed to be a thousand years, 1881 02:05:42.880 --> 02:05:46.319 right. Plus one for Lois's costume closet because she has her ring girl. 1882 02:05:46.840 --> 02:05:49.359 Is that who they are? Yes? Yes, ring girl? Yes. 1883 02:05:49.880 --> 02:05:53.359 Two of the most common words the human language. We could not remember 1884 02:05:53.399 --> 02:06:00.680 them earlier, but a ring girl. That brings nine. We have plus 1885 02:06:00.920 --> 02:06:06.720 thirty one based off my visual scan of Lutheran Mansion of not the last Son 1886 02:06:06.760 --> 02:06:14.720 of Krypton or you know what, Let's make that thirty two because of the 1887 02:06:14.840 --> 02:06:16.760 Kryptonian assassin. There were two of her, so let's do that, which 1888 02:06:16.800 --> 02:06:23.439 brings us through forty four. Okay, and that might be a shifting number 1889 02:06:23.479 --> 02:06:30.359 as we go through season nine here and then finally shirtless Oliver plus one because 1890 02:06:30.359 --> 02:06:33.319 he's in his cage match. That brings us to seven. So far. 1891 02:06:35.640 --> 02:06:44.079 Bechtel test pass. I'd say so because Low Low and Chloe do you talk 1892 02:06:44.119 --> 02:06:48.359 about how she's been missing, not about a man. I mean, they 1893 02:06:48.439 --> 02:06:53.720 mentioned things around it, but I think that qualifies as well. Yeah, 1894 02:06:53.840 --> 02:06:59.640 yeah, Bechtel tests passed. There you go. Well, JJ, we 1895 02:06:59.680 --> 02:07:03.800 have a actually started season nine podcast. Thank you so much for taking the 1896 02:07:03.880 --> 02:07:08.920 time to talk about Savior with me. Of course. Yeah, this was 1897 02:07:08.960 --> 02:07:13.119 a blast. I'm glad we got to finally do this. Did anyone's say 1898 02:07:13.159 --> 02:07:20.199 Savior in the episode, by the way, No, they she she says 1899 02:07:20.279 --> 02:07:26.479 betrayed, right, But no, I don't think right. Yeah, No, 1900 02:07:26.640 --> 02:07:29.840 I don't know. I don't think so. I was thinking John Corman 1901 02:07:29.920 --> 02:07:30.840 might when he's complaining about the blurb, but I don't think he did there 1902 02:07:30.840 --> 02:07:34.319 either. It just seems like such an obvious that it's been said many times 1903 02:07:34.359 --> 02:07:38.920 on the show, just not this episode, right, I think thinks he's 1904 02:07:38.960 --> 02:07:45.279 some kind of savior or something like that. But that's they wedge words in 1905 02:07:45.399 --> 02:07:48.039 this show so often like that would been such an obvious, easy sentence to 1906 02:07:48.079 --> 02:07:54.119 save anyway, safe, there you go, Like you mentioned off the top, 1907 02:07:55.119 --> 02:07:57.840 host of for Comic Junkies, if people want to find you out there 1908 02:07:58.159 --> 02:08:00.840 online, where can they find you? I'm gonna keep calling it this Twitter 1909 02:08:01.159 --> 02:08:07.960 at four Comic Junkies. You can also find me on Instagram and threads. 1910 02:08:07.039 --> 02:08:11.560 I'm trying to figure out threads as as I think we all are. Four 1911 02:08:11.640 --> 02:08:15.720 Comic Junkies. You can also follow the podcast four Comic Junkies. 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