WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:21.079 The following is a presentation of play Fly Sports properties in Michigan State Sports Properties. 2 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:59.280 Well, Hello and good evening. It is Tuesday, July eighteen, 3 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:03.799 two thousand and twenty three. Welcome to the only show about Spartan Dogs hosted 4 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:08.200 by Spartan Dogs. This is Sparta MS shot. I'm your host, Jason 5 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:12.719 Strayhorn played back in the Pros, saving eras as a center and the team 6 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.799 captain. And I could not do this without my two dogs in the fight 7 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:22.680 who played during the Smith and Antonio eras the boss, oldest wiley, hard 8 00:01:22.760 --> 00:01:29.359 hitting ball hawking safety and Jay Choo Choo Culkric, a single season TV record 9 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:32.400 holder for MS. You you know. But if this is your first time, 10 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:34.560 we welcome you to the show. If this isn't your first time, 11 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:41.799 we want to thank you. And don't forget the chat group right there is 12 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:44.159 where all the party is at. So go in there and get in the 13 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:47.840 live chat. Don't forget to hit us on our social media is like and 14 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:53.359 subscribe to YouTube, follow us, let us know where you're watching from guys. 15 00:01:53.239 --> 00:02:00.959 Hey, happy anniversary to you, Choo Choo. You can't how about 16 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:05.439 that man? Happy anniversary? Brother? That's oldis to say, that's my 17 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:10.240 favorite shirt right there. My grandma do me that shirt. But look at 18 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:15.400 look at look how the sunlight is just protruding on the arms there though proud 19 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.759 like a photoshop. You can buy seth looking knife just right there. And 20 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.080 you know, hey, listen, listen, you're gonna see did you not 21 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:29.719 submit the video? Because that shirt the buttons start to get over the time 22 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:34.039 night you started seeing that white beater. Where were you guys at look like 23 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.639 you're a ford Field? What was going on in ford Field? Or field 24 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.240 at the edge? Sharon concert? Oh yeah, man, you know what's 25 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:44.879 in there? What's the wife of nine six years? Anniverse? Or six 26 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:49.560 years you put up with me? You know six years? Six years? 27 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:52.680 People you got you were in a sweet, aren't you? Oh? Yeah, 28 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:55.520 in a sweet? Of course? You know how changing dude? Right, 29 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:31.719 we actually have video from a sweet. Let's yes, some videos every 30 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:39.919 tongue and everything. It was everywhere too, don't think so there. For 31 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:44.039 some reason too, when I sing that song, I always try to sing 32 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.719 with the English accident and at yourself saying Castle on the hill, I'm like, 33 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:55.039 oh, the castle on the hill? Man? I heard that? 34 00:03:55.120 --> 00:04:00.400 Yeah, A special guest at that concert with Ed Shearing. You you know, 35 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.599 Detroit's on. Eminem showed up. Huh yeah, Eminem, you know, 36 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:09.360 made a guest appearance there. He's sang two songs obviously. He started 37 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:13.960 with Lose Yourself, a collaboration he did with Ed Sharon that night, and 38 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:15.839 then um, you know, he said, you know I'm here already, 39 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:18.800 we might as well do another song, and the roof went off in the 40 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:23.639 building there, and uh, you know they did stand you know, one 41 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:28.759 of my favorite songs. Ed did the singing part Elton John's or didos part 42 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:33.279 there and Eminem did his rap and he ended with the Eminem salute with the 43 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.959 middle finger as he went down under the stage again. It was a really 44 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:42.279 cool, cool venue, cool atmosphere, a really good show. Probably one 45 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:47.759 of the top three concerts I've been to. Man And when's the next time 46 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:49.879 you're gonna go there? We're gonna go there for the Penn State game. 47 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:54.480 You're gonna go there before that, Well, we're gonna be next time. 48 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:57.040 I'm gonna be there. We're gonna be announcing, We're gonna be making an 49 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.800 announcement. Some people have the opportunity to be there with me for summer Slam 50 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:09.120 coming up May June. I'll get all over the place. I'll get fifth 51 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:13.560 the day before my birthday. Yeah, so I think we're gonna be making 52 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.920 that announcement and us, you know, letting it. We gotta figure out 53 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:19.560 how we're gonna do the drawing and everything like that. But yeah, you 54 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:24.240 know, I got a tip it's probably gonna be subscribers only. Yes, 55 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:28.519 get a chance to go to Summer Slam with you? Yes? Right? 56 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:41.920 Is this is this all inclusive or let's say, let's just say I'm gonna 57 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:46.000 be I don't know if they're ready for an all inclusive day with you. 58 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.680 If the event starts at seven thirty, I'll be down there around noonesh. 59 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:59.079 You know, goodness, we got about that. We got an exciting show 60 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:01.240 to day to Tampa. We got a special guest coming on and guys, 61 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:04.879 we gotta get through some of the house claim none. But let's talk about 62 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:10.160 Michigan State football if we could for a moment. Michigan State. Hey, 63 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:14.120 once again, this is coming up the second hardest schedule in college football this 64 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.480 year, according to Pro Football Focus, and we moved up one spot because 65 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:25.160 we were three right, U right, we want to I want to say 66 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.360 we want all the smoke right like it is what it is like, we 67 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.240 did this. We set this a long time agoing on our schedule wise, 68 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.439 and you want to play the best, you want to be the biggest platforms. 69 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:41.560 Obviously our conference is getting stronger and stronger year by year, So I 70 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.079 don't want it any other way. You know, we played the black, 71 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.920 We played the best. We're gonna be prepared for it, and then obviously 72 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:51.160 we want to know it and be a big ten championship and also go to 73 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:55.759 you know, a great bowl game slash CFP. But you know this is 74 00:06:55.759 --> 00:07:00.199 gonna really show where we're at from a standpoint of a program status. Um, 75 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:01.959 we got the guys. Now, let's see if we've been in this 76 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.920 weight room in the summer workouts from building, which we have been building. 77 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:10.040 And I'm looking forward to seeing where we where the chicks. Let the chick 78 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:14.439 forward. They met once we get on with Central Michigan kicking off on Friday, 79 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:19.000 set them first. Mmm. Man, you know to like, I 80 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:21.680 don't know, you know, I haven't seen this team yet, but it's 81 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:26.439 just something different going on right now. You know, a couple of months 82 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:30.040 ago, everybody was like, you know, students day. But right now, 83 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.959 it's just I don't know. I feel like there's a sneaking suspicion in 84 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:38.680 my opinion that this team is working their asses off like they they're quiet. 85 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.639 They've hearing a lot of doubters. Yes, they got a hard schedule. 86 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.600 This is all based on last year's record, RN loss totals and who's coming 87 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.680 back. So Pro Football Focus does all that analysis and they say that Michigan 88 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.800 State, based off what they have, there's the second hardest schedule in the 89 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:58.680 nation. I think that, you know, they made surprise to people. 90 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.040 What do you think you absolutely I agree with you one hundred percent. I 91 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:07.040 think they're definitely gonna surprise some people. Um, you know, I think 92 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:13.079 the work has been it's quietly being done in the shop right now. Um, 93 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:16.319 you know, they're they're going back there. They're putting in the work 94 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.399 in the off season and putting in the work on the field ass a team 95 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.120 they're recruiting. You know, buzz wasn't as big as it was the years 96 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:26.240 previous, but what it means is it's that quality, that quality work that's 97 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:30.920 going in. You're not seeing all these fancy videos that's coming out. You 98 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.480 know, right now. So I'm I'm excited for this. I agree one 99 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.279 hundred percent with you, Jason. I think, you know, the Spartans 100 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.720 are gonna shock and surprise a lot of people going into this season because they're 101 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:45.559 gonna come out playing with the chip on their shoulders this whole season because the 102 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:48.799 last year was not the Spartans that we you know, and they know that 103 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:50.559 was not dumb. You know, that was not an identity, That was 104 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:56.320 not a DNA of Spartan football off especially from the defensive side. You know, 105 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.519 at what point, you know, we had what one or two interceptions 106 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:03.480 last season and all together, that's not the DNA and Spartan acceptable at all. 107 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.559 You're right, you know, we we live, we take theirs, 108 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:09.279 you know, we protect ours and we take away from them. That's the 109 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.080 DNA of Spartan football. And I think we're gonna get back to that. 110 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.039 We're getting guys back, We're getting leaders back that are healthy. We're gonna 111 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:20.039 get guys back with that have that social cohesiveness. The locker room's gonna be 112 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.480 done. That's the construction is not going to be a distraction or anything like 113 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.559 that. I think the blinders are on and the Spartans are going to be 114 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.840 focused this year and having that second heardest schedule. That's one of the reasons 115 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.120 you come to Michigan State because you get to play in those big games. 116 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.320 You get to have those big opportunities, you know, to showcase your talent 117 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.080 week in a week out years back. You know otis. You know this 118 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.919 when whenever you play a big game, they'll talk about, Hey, that's 119 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.519 the money game, that's that money game. You get Ohio State prime time, 120 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:56.399 you get Penn State primetime. Now a lot of these games aren't that 121 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:00.720 money game. You got Washington coming, that's a money game early in the 122 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:03.399 season. So you know, it's an opportunity to make a statement. You 123 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.080 start with Central, you have Richmond, and then hey you're two one out 124 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.600 going into that Washington game and revenge. Those guys are coming to your home, 125 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:16.679 your home field now. So it's it's something that's really you know, 126 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:18.080 like I said, the Spartans are flying on the radar and they're gonna surprise 127 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.799 a lot of people this season. Oh Man, When you look at last 128 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:28.559 year's AP rankings, at the end of the season, Michigan State faces four 129 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:33.639 teams in the top ten from those final rankings. You look at Washington number 130 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.679 eight, Penn state seven, Universe, Ohio state four. You know the 131 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:43.480 team down the road was number three overall. Thank you for Tony the producer, 132 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.519 Tony g the producer in the background for that crack stat But look, 133 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:52.519 guys, it's gonna be the well straight you're looking at at the preseason rankings. 134 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:56.360 He's according in two four seven ESPN. You know you got Washington coming 135 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:01.000 in at twenty one, so they're coming in if we knocked that off, 136 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.679 like all right, this is we mean business, because clearly we got spanked 137 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.600 last year, you know what I mean, went over there and it was 138 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:11.159 just two much to y'all. So you're here, are you guys on the 139 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:15.440 radio and then hearing what you talked about like that atmosphere was like it was 140 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:18.720 no way we can win that game. But we gotta guys come in ranking 141 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.799 Washington. I think this is a huge testament, like we can't overlook Central, 142 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.799 we can't overlook Richmond, but we all know that Washington is that one. 143 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.639 But we gotta show up, put up, and show up or Central 144 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:35.320 misgan leave no doubt, leave nothing unturned and obviously Richmond coming in nip that 145 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:39.240 in the bud quickly, so we get some rest. But then Washington is 146 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.080 that one. We gotta really go out go after him. Yeah, you're 147 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.960 you hit the nail right on the head. Us. You can't look past 148 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.639 Central. You can't look past Richmond. Good programs and good teams. You 149 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.120 know what they do. They win games they're supposed to win. If we're 150 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.960 fourteen point favorites, let's win by seventeen, you know, make that statement. 151 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.720 Yes, let's cover you guys in Vegas. You've got lots of people 152 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:03.480 in Spartan Stadium, you know, all sitting on pins and needles for that 153 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.639 cover. You know, so let's let's go ahead, let's make let's cover 154 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:09.679 that, and if you and then let's move on to Richmond. And then 155 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.360 if we're you know whatever, however points were favored by against Richmond, we're 156 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:18.200 prepared for that. We cover that as well, and then we focus on 157 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.720 Washington. We can't go into the season planning to beat Washington when we have 158 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:26.279 Central and Richmond, because Central comes in with a chip on the shoulder. 159 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:28.679 It's a otis. You know this. You're an in state guy. A 160 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:33.320 lot of those guys on Central were passed over, you know, they're passed 161 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.360 over by State. You know that coaches are going into their schools recruiting their 162 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:41.919 teammates who come to State and not recruiting them. So those guys have a 163 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.919 chip on their shoulders and their coaches. Coach mcawaine, he was here at 164 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:50.120 Michigan State. He understands what it means to be here. So he's he 165 00:12:50.279 --> 00:13:00.879 I know exactly what he's you know, he's took yeah, so he it 166 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.679 takes yeah left. Michigan State went down. The foot was the Gators. 167 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:09.200 It was down. The Gators went so went right like ye seen fishing. 168 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:15.159 I heard. I don't know everything about that I heard. I don't know 169 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:20.200 you guys inside, Joe, but you know you brought up Washington the oldest. 170 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.440 Like we keep talking about the Washington thing and thinking about Michael Pennox junior, 171 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.960 that quarterback. I think he's two and old against Michigan State. He 172 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:33.039 has our number, like playing for Indianna and asked also as a husky lefty 173 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:37.559 that can sling. It could have went. Was was projected to be a 174 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.679 Day one, early late day one, or early day two pick in the 175 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:46.600 NFL draft a year ago and decided to come back because they're talking National Championship 176 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:52.080 album Washington right now. So that's gonna be a huge game when they when 177 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.679 they come into town, I think it's September. What is that sixteenth or 178 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:01.519 the fifteen, fifteen, twenty four, something like that. They'll be in 179 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:07.440 Spartan you can watch network. We're gonna be talking about it before then. 180 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:13.159 But guys, look talking about people with chips on that show. Let's talk 181 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:18.360 about our own Chuck Brantley. He's got an event going on at Plato's Closet 182 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.960 in east Land scene, and let's listen to him. Hype it up right 183 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:28.679 now, Spartan Nation's Chuck Brandley here deeps the Back at Michigan State next weekend, 184 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:31.840 Saturday, July twenty second, eleven am to one pm. Then I 185 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:37.120 will be signing that Plato's Closet for their game they release, Eating east Lands. 186 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:41.000 The first hundred fans that get there at Platos we'll receive a signed limited 187 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:43.879 additional trading card. Hopefully see many of you guys there. Go Agreen, 188 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:52.080 go White. You gotta look it. I tell you boy this and I 189 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.720 doing deals in Plato's closet. Hey, we gotta get play to be a 190 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:00.639 partner so we can wear a jersey and the thing you know, like we 191 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:11.480 know looking at about assist you shouldn't be on campus at all going after play 192 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:18.320 though play tho. It's like it's like listen to Bernie Maxon Nay, I 193 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:28.720 don't know, you know, Nato Jenkins. By the way, Washington game 194 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.799 is all the sixteen. Thank you for that again telling you in the background. 195 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:37.039 Look, you know there's another list that just came out and it was 196 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:43.279 the East West Shrine Bowl. One thousand players that can make the East West 197 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:48.440 Shrine Bowling. Fifteen Spartans make that list. Yeah, that's that's really impressive. 198 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:52.039 You know, the East West Shrine Bowls. It's a really big game. 199 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.960 It's a great opportunity for uh, you know college college players, you 200 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.360 know, hoping you get a chance at the next level to go out there 201 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:03.200 and display their talents being by NFL guys. And if you know, it's 202 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:07.759 really crazy because that list, you know, Alabama didn't have fifteen players you 203 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.840 know that that could make that game. Georgia didn't have that number. So 204 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:15.600 it's it's it says a lot about where the program is and the and the 205 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:19.879 the Calberth players that's on this spartan roster. Yeah, I think as a 206 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:25.279 player, you know East East versus West Shrine game East West Shrine Game. 207 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.759 I'm sorry, is that one you all want to get in, right? 208 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:32.919 But that main one we know is the Rec Senior Bowl. But like this 209 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:36.399 is the element of you've seen fifteen guys here. Out those fifteen guys, 210 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:38.080 you may get two or three to get the call to go to the Rec 211 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:41.960 Senior Bowl. And so this is another opportunity to put on the platform, 212 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:47.960 have the NFL scouts, get your draft status get evaluated. Um, and 213 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.559 this is a great one. This is fully this is like the long standing 214 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.559 one that's always been around and so kudos all of our guys now, but 215 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:02.600 I truly have been preseason this, pre season that and that pride comes before 216 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.759 the fall. You gotta keep grinding, you gotta keep working. Don't look 217 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:08.599 at this height because that can be stripped away from you really quick. So 218 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.920 one, let's focus on to get this season. Put up those numbers and 219 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.279 we'll see where at the end of the season where you get celebrated. You 220 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.720 know, you gotta win two to get that notoriety and get that exposure. 221 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:26.440 So congratulations those guys being least selected preseason to be selected postseason. But that 222 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:29.279 one is that Senior Bowl, we know it is. But this is good 223 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.960 to celebrate too, absolutely, and to take care of business and they'll be 224 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.200 there. That's all. That's all I gotta do. Take care of business. 225 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.160 Only two hundred and fifteen rookies get into that league, you know. 226 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:44.279 So the thousand players here that are eligible, that are on the radar right 227 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:48.000 now, fifteen from Michigan State. Let's see how they can live out their 228 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:52.240 dreams next year and during this season. If you guys have liked what you've 229 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.440 heard so far, don't forget to hit the subscribe and the like button, 230 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.880 the like button, and you know we got our special guests. BJ Cunningham 231 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:07.160 joins us after this message from our friends over Eye Hot, put a smile 232 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.920 on your plate with new pancake tacos, because when you fold a pancake and 233 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.240 a half, if you get a taco or in this case three for six 234 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:18.880 dollars, try all four flavors here for a fun time, not a long 235 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:26.640 time. Only from Eye Hop without further ado, we were gonna bring on 236 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:30.880 the legendary b. J. Cunningham Wide receiver number three, number one in 237 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.359 your hearts, joins this a Sparta ms you how are you doing? BJ? 238 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:48.960 Yeah? Oh hit that? Hit that on you? But all right, 239 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:52.720 let me see if I are y'all hit it at the same time. 240 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:59.759 There you go, no to me, talk to me, all the talks 241 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:06.359 to me. You're ready to go, go leave and come back in. 242 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:10.200 Yeah, there you go. Well yeah, as he's coming back in, 243 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.839 like you know, that's what we got the same birthday. So we always 244 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:18.759 talked about Jimini twins, right, It's crazy. Uh BJ's a guy literally 245 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:22.720 same day, same day, two year difference, right, So uh you 246 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.519 know I was gonna tell that story when I don't know, Jay, you 247 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:27.960 didn't have to stay in the dorms. Who comes d in the camp, 248 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:32.079 did you? Yeah? Year the first year? So that second year, 249 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.039 that second No, that first year it was on seven because he came in 250 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:42.319 on seven yea yeah yeah. So coach Steve Coachdeve matched US seniors with like 251 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:48.200 incoming lord freshman or sophomores. Like there wasn't anna like senior and senior pure 252 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.880 right, So with me jim here, like I get DJ coming in right, 253 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.519 So me and VJ are roommates and I'm like man, it might not 254 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:03.400 be none of that foolish would be none of that foods just good. Look 255 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.200 I need my sleep and all that. Like we gotta set the pargams. 256 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:11.799 It's like, let's sit down here now. The og you know really went 257 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:19.839 yeah, and I was like all night yeah. Then used to do Then 258 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:22.519 you start getting you know, the freshman you know, you got that mark 259 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:26.240 deal, you got well, you got a bunch of that class coming in. 260 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:30.160 It was It was cool, though, But I appreciate Coach d though 261 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:34.240 for for doing that because clearly we were bandits, Like we were wild bandits 262 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:37.480 when he came to John Old Camp, Like we didn't have to stay in 263 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.400 the door the dorm, go back to our own apartments, which was loved, 264 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:44.440 by the way, but when he had to reset that and like we 265 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:48.319 gotta build a culture. We gotta be in teamwork because we're only as best 266 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:51.440 as our next guys. And so it was good to get to know BJ. 267 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:55.119 But also I've known his family, still know his family and his grandma 268 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:57.759 and my dad are like like this gg. So when he comes back or 269 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:00.920 hopefully he gets to stay, ain't working obviously, will touch on that, 270 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:07.839 but this man was a great, great spark no man question DJ cunning him 271 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:12.680 out of Westerville, Ohio wide receiver Westerville South High. I mean I remember 272 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:17.599 he had what forty five receptions as a senior, if I could recall, 273 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.680 you remember that back his Westerville you know, born May twenty ninth. ODIs 274 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:29.519 So, I said, Jim and I twin though, Yeah, we all 275 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:40.960 know Leo's run, run the show. That's what Leo's think, Leo ruthers 276 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:42.759 Man look. So yeah, I'm excited to get him on here. He's 277 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:47.480 just getting back, getting this stuff reconnected as he works through that. You 278 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:51.880 know, so talk about like being you know, a leader when you have 279 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.440 a guy like DJ you said you wanted to you know, set the tone 280 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.559 and give him that talk otis and then you can see what happened to him, 281 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:03.559 like did you follow him after you left and you've seen his career progressives 282 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:07.119 saying oh absolutely, man, absolutely, because like the best part about it, 283 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.640 like clearly defensive back wide receivers. So like BJ is getting his feet 284 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.920 wet, he's learning the offensive playbook. But you know he started out the 285 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.359 scout team, so you know we're going against him all the time, and 286 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:25.400 so he always had that mindset of like just did whatever it took. But 287 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:27.359 like was he didn't complain, He wasn't like what was me? Like, 288 00:22:27.480 --> 00:22:30.839 he just grinded, man, And like was a quiet, silent guy like 289 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:36.079 with Bynd just he with grind. Now he'll talk his stuff now, but 290 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.400 like he was a grinder. Like I remember there's those years where it was 291 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:42.480 him and Blair White was just dog in the secondary man, like I mean 292 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:47.079 Mosson, like they was going and that's where you knew, like you saw 293 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:52.279 you saw BJ's ceiling and you saw like this dude's about to be one of 294 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.119 our wide receiver greats because he was. He made scout team look like that 295 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:02.240 was game ready. You know, game they ready Phil for us like he 296 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:06.680 prepared us. But he was he was torturing dbs those bets, you know. 297 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:10.279 So it was good to see them speaking of looks, I mean, 298 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:14.599 let's bring him back on. Let's see you. Yeah, Hey hopefully BJ, 299 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:23.599 what's up? What's up? What's happening, big dog? Hey, 300 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.880 I appreciate you're having me your man. I love what y'all doing over here. 301 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.359 Man, love it man, love it. Hey, looks like you 302 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:33.920 joined it. You joining forces. On the podcast broadcasting. Uh, tell 303 00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:38.039 us about that news man, hey man? So uh yeah, I just 304 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:41.680 I was, Um, so you guys know, you guys know Evan Turner 305 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.920 played on State. Yeah, so you know what I mean Columbus. I'm 306 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:48.799 from Ohio. Um, you know they did it with they did that with 307 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.720 the basketball. They started with basketball last year with t Walt and Raymark. 308 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.279 Yeah, State and uh one of my homies. So I'm in a basketball 309 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:00.000 league out hearing me and a couple of like a high State guys and stuff. 310 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.039 And my boy A lot of the how State guys. They're on the 311 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:04.000 news out here, right like my boys. You know how it is. 312 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.440 You know, a lot of them on the news. And my boy Posy 313 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:11.319 he works with like the sports news, the local news, and you know 314 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:15.039 he's been doing that type of stuff. And that's my boy, like since 315 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.279 like college and he were on the same basketball team. We who like rec 316 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.000 league together out here. That's my boy and we're playing this he failed together. 317 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:26.640 And he was like, hey, um, they approached me to talk 318 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:29.920 to be the Big ten, the how State big beyond a Big ten blah 319 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:33.599 blah blah representative for football. So there was like he's I can ask you 320 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.039 know Evan Turner, that's his home and they played the house Stagate stayed together. 321 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:38.599 Then he hit me like we got on a call and he was like, 322 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.880 shoot one dude. I said, yeah, what's up. Let's go 323 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:45.720 break that down. What's that gonna consist of? What are you gonna be 324 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:52.200 doing? So it's basically, um, breakdown the game, talk about the 325 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:56.680 next game. But I mean, honestly, just just talking football players, 326 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.759 offense, defense. I think coming on there with me, we're gonna be 327 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:04.440 hosting with me as well. Um and yeah, man, we're gonna be 328 00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.039 breaking it down talking about the next week. It's gonna be quick, thirty 329 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.519 forty minutes, nothing crazy, but you know, something to get get my 330 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:22.960 feet wet in the game. Absolute And before you jumped through a well, 331 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.599 as you was coming back on, I talked about that year one when you 332 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.960 got to Nigan State, right and uh, and how coach d had housed 333 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:36.599 us with our roommates, and you and I was roommates, but like one 334 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:40.599 we didn't know we had the same birthday and we crazy. But then, 335 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:42.559 like I said, we had that little talk a little bit like hey, 336 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.720 man, like look, you're gonna have to get your rest cuz, because 337 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:51.319 this ain't gonna fake that heart. But like they did a little hanging, 338 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.359 we got to know each other in our families group too, Like I'm still 339 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:59.319 close with BJ's family, my dad and Gig his grandma. Grandma's all star 340 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.559 rock Stars. She always stayed close with the Spartans. But talk about man 341 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.759 that first year coming to miscons sake and then I know Jutra. We'll go 342 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.839 all the way back to high school and recruiting, but talk about that first 343 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.960 year where you got there with Coach d Man. My first year, Uh, 344 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.279 like I said, got on campus, Oh, this was my roommate. 345 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.440 Luckily I had a solid, good dog. Wanted to you know, 346 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.000 talk to me, let me know how stuff all you said I was. 347 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:33.319 I made sure I was ready, but but not getting there it was it 348 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.440 was a shot man. Um. I mean, you get to college, 349 00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:41.200 everybody's the man, you know, coming to be the man. You get 350 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:44.519 there, guys are already the man and established. So it was just more 351 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:49.200 so like just getting there, getting my feet wet, meeting the guys and 352 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:53.240 honestly having a roommate like you, because I heard other guys had other roommates. 353 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:56.359 It was it was rough for him I had a room, I had 354 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.519 a roommate like, oh man to just to just keep me grounded. Um, 355 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.079 I know, always in the word you know he kept That's what kept 356 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:06.480 him grounded. I grew up. I grew up in the church as well, 357 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:07.960 so you know, I feel like, you know, I told my 358 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:12.200 mom now, she was like real happy about that situation, and honestly, 359 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:18.759 it's just that was probably I've been in a lot of training camp. It 360 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.279 was probably one of the hardest training camps I've ever had going into my first 361 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:25.400 year of college because I didn't I didn't know anything. I just knew she 362 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.400 ball get balled. So that first year was a real transition for me. 363 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.359 Man, and that's why I got ran shirted. Yeah, I could catch 364 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.279 the ball, but we knew it was more than that just catching the ball, 365 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.400 right, It was you gotta know the who's blitching, you gotta know 366 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:41.279 who's who, you know the coverages. I was just I was two years 367 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.920 in the game, so it was really just you know, I luckily had 368 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.839 a dB as my roommate in camp, so I kind of was like learning 369 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.480 learning stuff about the defense. I was still trying to learn the offensive game. 370 00:27:52.519 --> 00:28:02.680 Oh it ain't give me no haze and we was good then a protect 371 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:08.960 we protect ourselves and like you said, our families became you know, great 372 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.519 with friends with each other until this day. And that's why I love being 373 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:17.240 a Spartan dog man. The community is it's amazing. The brotherhood is amazing 374 00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:21.680 and never been a part of like nothing else. So BJ, youve were 375 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:25.000 talking about you know, were gonna go back now like you played a little 376 00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.680 who you still are playing who? But you know at we were talking a 377 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:33.279 little bit offline and you were like almost missed the basketball level and on how 378 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:34.640 else it right? No, No, I see, I don't want to 379 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.240 take it too far. N I was nice though. I was two time 380 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.799 district player of the year, I got all stay so I was decent. 381 00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:48.319 I was. But I'm gonna tell you soccer was my sport. Bro. 382 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.960 I went to Iceland, Sweden, Denmark, like I traveled like Scandinavia for 383 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.279 like soccer when I was like in middle school and then you know I got 384 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:03.240 the high school. Don't body care about the soccer team I wanted, you 385 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.960 know what I'm saying. So so that basketball and soccer to me, like 386 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:14.480 my footwork was already right, my hand eye coordination was already right Moss, 387 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:18.920 and somebody was dunking or getting the rebound. So it was just like this 388 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.880 is I felt like this was the mixture of my two like favorite sports in 389 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.039 one. And then I always told myself I didn't want to just go my 390 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.400 whole life out playing football because I wanted to see what it was like to 391 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:30.960 get hit and I actually liked the contact. I was like, oh, 392 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.839 this is it right here, so you had the wheel to be here, 393 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.960 you like it? Yeah, let me go across the let me run that 394 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:47.839 dig rount like you know, most receivers don't want to They want to get 395 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.440 out of bounds, like nah, I got broken piggies, broken rists like 396 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:59.240 yeah, yeah, you see, yeah, broken ribs, like that's all 397 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.279 across the middle. Baby. But I just loved it. Man, It's 398 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:06.359 just you know, part of me. So you know, you you talk 399 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.319 about that, and you know you said you started playing football late and when 400 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.519 you started watching football and playing the game of receiver, who did you um 401 00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.039 model your game after? Who? What receiver did you look at and be 402 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:19.839 like, man, I really want to be like him. Oh, my 403 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:26.200 favorite receiver ever was Randy Moss. Randy Randy Moss is my favorite receiver ever. 404 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:33.440 M Andre Johnson one of my favorite receivers, Reggie. Those three guys 405 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.240 were like, I feel like we're prototype to me. Brandon Marshall. I 406 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:38.920 ended up getting to play with b marsh for a little bit in Chicago. 407 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.480 Those type of receivers, big, go get the football, blockdown field, 408 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.759 go across the middle. Um, I was never a specter, so I'm 409 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:49.960 not gonna I mean, Randy was fast, but he was going to get 410 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:55.000 it too, you know what I'm saying. But um, there's a mixture 411 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.319 of all those guys, and I just tried to implement my game and just 412 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:02.039 find pieces of their game and just play into mine. And that's where I 413 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:07.200 felt like I got mine from. Well you're talking about yeah, go ahead 414 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:10.559 of us. Yeah. So then then coach, do you come see you 415 00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.240 who? It was like, hey, man, like this guy got this 416 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.799 guy got some some talent, Like let's see when you can play on football, 417 00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.440 Like he kind of encouraged to go football, right Yeah, So look 418 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:26.200 like all right, so this is what happened. So recruiting Boom, my 419 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.200 high school coach come up to me. He like he's like, Yo, 420 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.000 we're going because my quarterback was mister like mister football ran a four to three. 421 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:34.960 We ran like the beer. So the veer options, I was getting 422 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.839 the ball like late. You know he usually throwing the fade or running the 423 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.960 ball. You know how high school is, right, So so my my 424 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:49.160 going in going into my junior going into my junior year, no exterior year, 425 00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.119 I'm sorry, serior year. My high school coach come up to me 426 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.319 like, hey, Cincinnati wants to see Rocko the quarterback, my son and 427 00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:57.720 his son, and you know they want to bring you along. You know, 428 00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.680 he's like they look. He looks at me like they might offer you 429 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.359 scholarship. And this is when Coach D. It's still a Cincinnati spring ball. 430 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.359 You know what I'm saying. I'm at spring practice. You know, 431 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:15.119 the rivals take your little picture you the hot game. So I remember what 432 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:16.160 I had all every day. That's when thermals was in. I had like 433 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:30.160 the therm over coach the hot color. So so we have practice, right, 434 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.519 and um, you know what Coach D. You know you know how 435 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.640 Coach D was not a smile on his face here, bron here. You 436 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.920 know, I'm just watching my alright, cool practice and cool. Then I 437 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.720 see a dude walk out late. I was like, oh, man, 438 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:50.119 like late to the spring game, late late late the spring practice, you 439 00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.839 know, yeah, yeah, that's really I tell people spring balls like can't 440 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:58.079 for real for the guys who already at school, Like that's your time, 441 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:02.680 right. So, so buddy walked out there, Coach, do you would 442 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:05.799 go over there here? Donna say nothing, buddy, he's a d D 443 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.079 or some anybody going to the drills. Kick kick buddy out of practice. 444 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:17.880 Yeah, you know, wasn't quiet a loud? Yeah, it was quiet. 445 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.200 It was quiet. Yeah, because he was quiet, get get your 446 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:34.680 kid out. Yeah like that. I all know. But then they knew 447 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:36.480 what, you know, how to recruit, you know how they do it 448 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.759 right. They had coach trap full up on me. All right. I'm 449 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:42.880 like they had coach Train. He was the old Steve Receiver coach at the 450 00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.839 time. Now you say, we're watching the highlight tabe. He come over 451 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.559 and sitting next scoop next to me. He likes so, so you know, 452 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.200 he talks to me, some kid man, we want to offer you 453 00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.359 know, you know, room and board. I'm like, oh shit, 454 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:58.599 I'm getna offered during the Cincinnati Highlight tape. Cool but boom. So we 455 00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:00.079 go back. My quarterback did and get one. So it was kind of 456 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:12.280 quiet right when I left for one? Yeah yeah yeah. Uh he followed 457 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:21.920 me, So you go this part, you know what I'm like, So 458 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:24.519 so boom, all right in my head that's this is like it was between 459 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:28.559 West Virginia Cincinnati. Boom. I'm probably gonna go here, get to school 460 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:30.880 high school, like get to school like a week later. My coach Country, 461 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:32.599 So what are you gonna do? Coach? He left? He went 462 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.400 to Michigan State. I'm like, cool, So what I do? I 463 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:37.519 called Coach Trail, Like, hey, Coach Trail, I see I went 464 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:47.280 to Michigan State. Can I come straight up and say coach? I was 465 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:53.079 like, I can assure you now, was going to set up a visit 466 00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:55.880 to come out to your school. So it wasn't coach DP. It was 467 00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.039 Coach Traid. Coach track to my game, you know football, se and 468 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:02.519 over We're playing, uh some team, and then the one of the kids, 469 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.880 uh dads on the other team. His dad was a coach at basketball 470 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.239 or Hoise States. You know the buzzes in the building. Michigan stays in 471 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:13.079 the building, a house, stay in the building. You know what I'm 472 00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.480 saying. So look, boom off the tip the hall State guys, son, 473 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.719 get the ball off the tip, white boy, he go boom. 474 00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.760 Yeah two heads you know, high school dump. You know what everybody was 475 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:28.360 like, who so bo? Coach Coach Tra sit next to my mom. 476 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.679 So the first quarter about to run out, I get like a breakaway. 477 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.679 The buddy who dumped on us in the first quarter charges to jump with me. 478 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:42.920 Yeah, I'm time quarter. You put a quarter for the quarter? 479 00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.039 You feel me? So it's like, so I got the whole gym buzzing. 480 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.480 It's a whole game, you know what I'm saying. So after the 481 00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:50.960 game, Coach Track come up to me and he's like, okay, we 482 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.280 want to set up a visit for you to come to Michigan State. You 483 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.440 know how to go through all the processes. Once they got big ten, 484 00:35:54.519 --> 00:36:01.880 I had to go string. It was a good mother at the highlights, 485 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:09.159 take about ok this is this big time. I gotta I gotta show y'all 486 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:14.360 some more. Okay, cool, So they have to come out there and 487 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.559 uh I met Coach D and all that, and then he offered me on 488 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.440 the spot. You know co D is he want to answer now he didn't 489 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.760 he want to answer now like now like if you say you got other visions, 490 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.400 He's like, well, I don't care about this other visits. You're 491 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:32.639 coming here or you're go go there. Like he was like, you know 492 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:44.239 what I mean, Hey, this is the best I got. I'll come 493 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:52.519 to y'all locker room. I see they got gatorade. It's a little things, 494 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.440 A little things to the locker room. I like stepped on the sue. 495 00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:00.159 Everybody was like whoa. I was like, okay, it's like a 496 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.599 real, like this is real. I'm here like so like honestly, man 497 00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:08.119 like, going back the whole recruiting process, it was amazing. It was. 498 00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:13.039 It was a whole busted this for me. But I'm gonna keep it 499 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.840 real. I waited all the way till signing, like the day before signing, 500 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:17.239 the day to like really really because I was waiting, you know, 501 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.360 I was waiting for the home, the home for real. But then it 502 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.400 was just like, you know what, Nah, I'm out in Michigan State. 503 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.440 I make that decision a hundred times over and over and over again, 504 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:31.920 man like. It was the best decision of my life. And that's what 505 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.719 people say. Your college decision. The bestsis in your life? You know 506 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.599 what I'm saying. And who hosted you on your official he said, what 507 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:51.840 who hosted you on your official visit? T key to get paid? To 508 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:59.559 get paid? So I remember, you know, I know who I wanted 509 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:10.920 to be my host here? Oh the thousand out here he was boy schools 510 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.280 bro. I'm gonna keep it real. I heard them, you know, 511 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.440 because you know I got dropped to Miami. You know what player of personnel 512 00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:24.800 up there? And those stories are they are real facts, y'all. Y'all, 513 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:32.679 y'all are I wanted to be? No? Just know me and my 514 00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:37.239 dog dall held it down. You feel right, I know you did. 515 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.239 There's no jo talking about what you just said. BJ. You talked about 516 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.400 being in Ohio. You read you know, you went to Cincinnati with coach 517 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:51.000 d then he goes Bishing State and you know, basically said you got to 518 00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:52.920 commit right now. Didn't let you do anything, but you were you were 519 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:57.599 you were still waiting out for that home team because you're an Ohio native right 520 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.840 now. He was famous for getting a lot of Ohio guys to you know, 521 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:08.639 go to Michigan State, being from Zanesville himself just so that he could 522 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:13.639 go through because he knew the Big Ten championship went through Ohio State. How 523 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.239 many was that did that play? Did you think about that when you got 524 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:20.599 there and he's seen so many guys that you knew from high school in east 525 00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:22.639 Land, Cina. You know, how did that play out for you? 526 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.519 When he When I first saw that, I knew exactly what he was doing 527 00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.559 coming from Ohio, him being from Ohio, knowing that Ohio was one of 528 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:34.960 the I mean, it's a small state, but it's one of the top 529 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.320 football states in the country. So we know it's no fool fool guys out 530 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.480 there. We played ball too, you know what I'm saying. So so 531 00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:44.719 knowing seeing guys I played against the high school on the team, guys that 532 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.920 I knew about in Ohio from high school on the team. UM, I 533 00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.039 kind of seen that he was trying to like bring a new regime into the 534 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.760 program. And like you said, the Big the Big team goes through Ohio. 535 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.119 We're in Michigan and we're in Michigan State, and we know who the 536 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.639 bulk, the bulk of the Michigan players are gonna go. We're going to 537 00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.199 Michigan at that time right, and the bulk of the Ohio players were going 538 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.679 to Ahise State at that time. So what he did was, which was 539 00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.800 I loved it. He got the guys that were kind of more under the 540 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:19.679 radar, the guys that was the grinders, the guys that he saw would 541 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.440 put the work in to get him like him, like he was a type 542 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:23.920 of guy, to get him where he thought his program wanted to be, 543 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:30.400 which ultimately changed the program absolutely. You know what I'm saying. We got 544 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:37.199 there was you thought we was in trailers like well that we had we had 545 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.079 half of the week. We didn't have a hole. We had the trailers 546 00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:45.000 in there for the coaches offices man like like that that was that was a 547 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.079 testament to what we was going through at the time, you know what I'm 548 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:52.000 saying. So like to to see that and then see where we ended up 549 00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:55.920 like at that time, like and I'm telling you it was it was you 550 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:05.960 YouTube, Um it was probably like kershaw uh Like y'all the core, the 551 00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:10.440 core of our players got us to that point, Like we wouldn't have got 552 00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:14.559 there if it wasn't for y'all, Like if we'd have just seen some guys 553 00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.960 out here messing around other doing stuff that you know what I'm saying, not 554 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.519 handling on their business on in off the field. We'd be like, okay, 555 00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.679 you know how dude, he was messing around, All right, cool, 556 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:27.360 are we good? Then they're chilling. Were chilling. But we see 557 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.159 guys, older guys putting the work in, and he I see Godep bringing 558 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.840 in guys that he wants to put the work in and change the program. 559 00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.360 I just saw the whole Ohio effects with the Michigan effect, but it was 560 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.880 more so the type of people he was recruiting bringing into the program. And 561 00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.960 that's what I respected. Yeah, that's one hundred percent there. You know, 562 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.719 Coach d you know he you know, he had that that thing. 563 00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.000 He wanted character guys, and he also wanted guys with the chip on their 564 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:57.519 shoulders. And he wanted us we our guys, not I mean mine guys. 565 00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.119 And uh, you know, right from the very go when he came 566 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:06.039 in and you know and announcing captain and what you could even wear to prap 567 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.760 if it's not team issue, don't wear you know, because it's you're promoting 568 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:13.199 I mean mine. He wanted those us we are guys and uh, you 569 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.599 know you're one hundred percent right. That is something they will always stick with 570 00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:20.599 me and everyone else about Coach d But BJ, so you talk about, 571 00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.639 you know, you were an Ohio guy coming in and it was some you 572 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.480 know, like the first time because that first year, I believe we went 573 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:29.480 to or did Ohio State come to us? And we did? We went 574 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:35.400 there. Oh no, y'all y'all yeah, okay, So but like the 575 00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:39.840 first time you had an opportunity to play Ohio State, What did that feel 576 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.679 like and what was that like to you? It was crazy? It was 577 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:49.159 my rash freshman year the year after that and we played him at home and 578 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.320 uh, I mean we was right. They was right, but they was 579 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:58.000 obviously top five. We was like nineteen. Yeah, we went we went 580 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.119 in, We went in feeling good. Weren't feeling good? Um, but 581 00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:07.280 it was it was honestly, I knew, you know, I was I 582 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:08.559 was a wrestling freshman. I wasn't really part of the game playing, but 583 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:10.800 I knew I was gonna get a few catches, you know what I'm saying. 584 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:15.480 But at the same time, it was more so like like damn, 585 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:16.480 this is this is the this is the team I was waiting on. This 586 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:21.320 is a team that didn't want me. This is a team that that I 587 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:22.880 was watching up, watching growing up, you know what I'm saying. But 588 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:29.880 then when they beat us, it became more of a like I'm done with 589 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:31.840 these fools. I can't wait to play him again, Like because I didn't 590 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.239 get to really get to make an impact in the game. I was young, 591 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.400 nineteen years old playing football for three years. I got uh. I 592 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:42.760 mean he probably looking back, he wasn't even nice like that. But I 593 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.480 had Chick Bay check with checking me. You know what I'm saying. I 594 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:47.599 don't know I should have been, but at the time it was like I 595 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:51.559 was more so looking at oh day, we're playing on house stake, like 596 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:58.000 what I'm saying. Yeah, man, were just lining up and playing football 597 00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.719 forget this bum, you know what I mean. But you know I had 598 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.599 to. I had to grow up in that football aspect too. So playing 599 00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:08.119 that for the first time, I kind of like didn't didn't. I mean, 600 00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:12.159 I had one catch for like fifteen yards. I didn't really do too 601 00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:17.320 much. And you know, but yeah, let's talk about what we played 602 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:23.480 in my stand year. Yeah, man, let's talk about quarterback and connection. 603 00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:28.480 Obviously, your running mate Murk Didal too, Like you know our standing 604 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:31.599 duo and you had the Ohio Michigan connection, right, But like talk about 605 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:37.800 the relationship with with Kurt, because y'all came in and truly turned the tide 606 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.559 from the standpoint of what we built oh seven o eight and y'all took me. 607 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.480 Y'all took it to the next level. But talk about the just the 608 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:49.320 camaraderie but also the teamwork that kind of came into that to turn the tide, 609 00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.760 because then that's when we went to the BE ten championship game too, 610 00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:57.480 So like talk about that that that transition. Honestly, man, Kirk is 611 00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.159 my guard man. And really what I think it was with me and Kirk 612 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:06.880 when it was scout team, it was all scout team. We were just 613 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.559 being able to get reps on reps on reps, and he knew what I 614 00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:15.639 was doing, I knew what he was doing. It came to a point 615 00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.000 where like he trusted me, I trusted him to put the ball where it 616 00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:24.039 needed to be. And then just taking that from me playing with Hoyer my 617 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:28.800 next year to when Kirk had to sit and watch all right, and then 618 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.000 because coming into college, Kirk was a little more mature than me. Was 619 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.960 more mature than me football white, so he knew more so me. Getting 620 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.360 on the field before Kirk kind of held both of us out, all right, 621 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.719 I kind of got to I kind of got to learn the game a 622 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.679 little bit more with a veteran quarterback, all right, and he kind of 623 00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:47.639 got to watch me with the vet and no, okay, yeah, BJ 624 00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:51.239 don't like that, or BJ, this isn't what BJ does. This is 625 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.440 what BJ does. Well, So I know Kirk the smart guy, and 626 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.280 he played to he played to our strength and we would play to hit and 627 00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:04.039 just seeing just even seeing him now, like I know what Kirk's about to 628 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:08.159 do. It's hilarious. It's hilarious, but but it's just like being in 629 00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:14.400 the huddle with him. Um. Our team was so close after from Matt 630 00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.960 from like two thousand and nine to two thousan eleven. Our team was so 631 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.320 close really, after all that stuff happened, we got close like it was. 632 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:24.960 It was. It was. It was crazy to see you would think 633 00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:29.679 it wasn't the opposite way, but really everybody got closer. We started that 634 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.519 walking football that went viral on Instagram. We started that, by the way, 635 00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.480 our whole team we would do. He had Coach Deep playing it every 636 00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:40.239 weekend. Um, but now it was it was great to be able to 637 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:44.199 be on the team that got to the first Big ten championship game. I 638 00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:46.639 wish we would have won it. We should have won it, but you 639 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:51.199 know, you know how that goes. But now I feel like our camaraderie 640 00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:52.880 was what got All the walk Ons were cool, all the starters, All 641 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.679 the starters would go hang out with the walk on. Everybody was eating together, 642 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.880 everybody was at everybody's locker, everybody and everybody family. It was a 643 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:02.760 big it was, it was. It was amazing to see. So it 644 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.639 felt like that and it was, but it was to that by that time, 645 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.800 Coach d always had a smile on his face. He hardly ever had 646 00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:14.559 the stern on his cage. So he would tell Joe he was like, 647 00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:19.119 we were like he started loosing it up, the whole team loosing it up 648 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.360 when we started balling from real and that's you saw and just kept going rose 649 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.960 bowl to you know what I'm saying, Like after that, so, like 650 00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:31.079 I said, y'all started it man. Y'all's charisma, y'all's work ethic paved 651 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.119 the way for us to come in and just take over and just take flight 652 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.920 and take it from here. M So one thing that I that I and 653 00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:43.400 I think I asked you this last year at Spartan Dog Con, but we 654 00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:50.000 were all feeling good. So you're gonna have to read refreshe rememory here that 655 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.199 really sticks out. In that Big ten title game or something, you caught 656 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:55.159 the ball on the sidelines and what's going out and you pitched it back in? 657 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:05.440 What was it reverse? Yeah? He pissed it to me. Yeah, 658 00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:07.199 so what's that? What's that a plan play? Or did it just 659 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:14.280 happened? What was that so happening practice that you guys? So look, 660 00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.559 so remember I was talking about that walking football game that everybody that went viral 661 00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:22.760 or instagram remember a couple of years ago about walking football rooms. Yes, 662 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.719 I promise you, bro every every Friday before the game. Me and Mark 663 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:34.079 invented that we would have just the re series playing walking football before walk through 664 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.280 and you couldn't run, you could only walk and we'll be walking around. 665 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.360 We will be like lateral in the ball running with it, right. So 666 00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.199 and then we the it got so popularly the coaches started playing with us. 667 00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.320 Then we started winning and everybody wanted to play. Now, it's like, 668 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.679 you can't have a walk through game. You can't have walk through without the 669 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.079 walk through game. At first, you know, a superstitious that guy. 670 00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:59.559 They got to that point, they kept it going so so so what happened 671 00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.679 was we're in the middle of the game, all right, I said, 672 00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:04.480 bubble screen. They threw it. It was like, you know, check 673 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:06.440 bubble, so we can't run it and throw the bubble. We threw the 674 00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:09.840 bubble to Keith. I'm blocking on the outside. I looked back for some 675 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:15.199 for some reason, like I let go of my man because I seen him 676 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:15.960 like kind of going out of bounds, and I was like, all right, 677 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.880 I kind of like scooted behind him. I was like, Keith is 678 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:28.440 real savvy, savvy, so I kind of like let go of my man. 679 00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.239 It was like, okay, what's about to do Keith? I see 680 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.239 him leaning. I was like, oh, he about he can't even near 681 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.679 the ball he dropped and he and I knew exactly because this is what happens 682 00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.440 in the walk through game. Somebody push you at a bound somebody you just 683 00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:40.800 got a lodder on the ball out of bounds, so somebody can just wrong 684 00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:45.000 with it. He just tossed me the ball. Oh, here we go 685 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:46.880 and just go over in the end zone. It was most went viral, 686 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.599 most epic player of my life, and it was fun. Wasn't playing and 687 00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.199 then we still celebrate on the sideline. This was coachd slick. He go 688 00:49:54.320 --> 00:50:09.480 for two hea off for guy. It wasn't it wasn't playing, but like, 689 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:13.639 yeah, look you and you first of all, you let go before 690 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:19.119 you just explained and you was like, no, no, you gotta reflect 691 00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:24.079 replaying happy be walking football, Like that's the reps I got. Look how 692 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:30.480 quick you like going? Look at it. I'm gonna keep it real. 693 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.000 Know what's crazy? Twenty six? That corner. He was one of them 694 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.239 nice dvs. He's one of them. Hi the plays over, the plays 695 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.440 over, So I think he might have been like, hey, bro, 696 00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:44.239 you're good, you're good, you're good, and I let go, and 697 00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:50.440 you don't want to get blocked weet be good? Yeah, yeah, we 698 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:52.719 good, So I let go. I've seen the play with still lost, 699 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:53.760 so let me let me, let me get hot feet, let me get 700 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:59.159 some hot feet. He just gave me the ball touchdown. That was good. 701 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:00.000 I thought it was all playing the whole time. I was like, 702 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:13.360 man right, Coach D looking like he was the man. Yeah, you 703 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.559 guys, you guys, so you have the swag, you have that like 704 00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:20.719 the walking football game you talking about. Coach D started smiling more and you 705 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.159 know, all that excitement, and that's when you guys started, you know, 706 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:28.199 Michigan State one to a bunch of you know, the combat pro jerseys 707 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.199 that all the different, you know kind of jerseys that came out that oldis 708 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:36.760 Jason and I were really jealous of you guys. Roll out there and what 709 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:44.159 was your favorite jersey. Oh, I'm gonna keep it real. I gotta 710 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.920 go at that combat jersey. Man. We played Michigan where they gave us 711 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.639 gold helmets. I got the gold I gotta got the gold helmet had gold 712 00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:55.880 vapors, the gold green and golden green vapor clean. They don't even make 713 00:51:55.960 --> 00:52:01.760 them no more. You don't knocky iddos anymore. Like it was like shout 714 00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:10.920 out mister Nick many, ohs Nick bad, Daling bad. But now those 715 00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:14.960 are my favorite ones. I even even marcause Mark had left early. He's 716 00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.360 like Brolso tell us when y'all walked out versus Michigan and them pro combats man 717 00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.480 like but like even even when they switched to the nude, like like darker 718 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:24.320 green with the slick numbers and stuff, I ain't go out of them things 719 00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:28.480 was cold too, But I was mad about how they get to go green 720 00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:31.159 on green with the black. Now right, right, we had to wear 721 00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.079 white socks and white shoes. They can go black. I was like, 722 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:37.960 how to freak down? Yeah, you might want to blame blame too and 723 00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:43.239 all the other guys on the community council. He was like yeah. Coach 724 00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.239 D was like, what y'all guys want? He was like, man, 725 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:46.519 we want some blacks. We were blacking out of jerseys? Did it? 726 00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:53.360 He did not like that, like that, That's what I'm saying. He 727 00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:57.679 got nice and he started he started winning. He started letting more leeway. 728 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:02.639 Go, I get it, I get you brought you brought up something a 729 00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:07.159 minute ago. BJ you said that that thing some stuff happened. You're talking 730 00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.800 about the fight, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there was an 731 00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:13.199 issue, right, there was a fight, right, and then that brought 732 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.719 the team closer. Now, you know you've been following the game, right, 733 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:20.960 you see how n Il is going on and then the transfer port right, 734 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:23.519 so you know, do you can say like, what, First of 735 00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:28.400 all, you asked what your thought is on the transfer port Let me start 736 00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:35.880 there. I feel like it feels like, look, I love kids being 737 00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:37.159 able to go and be able to go play where they want to play. 738 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.239 But like I said earlier, going to college, that's the biggest decision in 739 00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.880 your life. I feel like picking your school because that determines how are you 740 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:47.320 gonna get in the field. Is the code you know all you know, 741 00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:51.239 all those all that stuff factors in quarterback however you want to look at it. 742 00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:58.800 But with the portal, it's just like it's no grind, it's no 743 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:02.679 process. Like I'm a process guy coming from that. I wasn't. I 744 00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.159 wasn't handing nothing. I wasn't coming in starting I wasn't coming in so I 745 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.119 could have I could have. You know, I don't like this. I'm 746 00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:15.360 gonna transfer after my first year knop of getting red shirted, you know what 747 00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:17.760 I'm saying. But at the same time, it's like I don't like it 748 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:22.039 because I was also that kid in college who wasn't heavily recruited. I wasn't 749 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.840 in a four or five star. So what happens is all these kids that's 750 00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:31.280 in high school that's that was like me, they gotta go D three or 751 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:36.719 or or find another school because they gotta missing. We rather get a corner 752 00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.960 from Alabama. Then bringing up I'd rather have to teach a senior from high 753 00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:44.800 school, which makes sense. So to me, it's getting too like free 754 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:47.880 as Andy. I don't like that. Like like with the n ideal and 755 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.320 the transfer report, I feel like you got pick one. I feel like 756 00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:54.000 you can't like do what they gotta do. But it can't have both, 757 00:54:54.480 --> 00:55:00.239 Like you can't be getting paid like all this money and then just be able 758 00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.719 to lead. Where's the integrity and the college game anymore? You know what 759 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:06.960 I'm saying. I remember scoring and winning touchdown and not being able to get 760 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.559 a six packet of the pizza after the game, you know what I'm saying. 761 00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:14.400 Like, so, I'm happy they're getting paid, but it's like everybody 762 00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:30.519 pepsy guy right over right brand do so. So it's just like if you 763 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.320 know, guys not getting what they you know what I'm saying, not getting 764 00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.840 what they want or something goes wrong, they can just leave. That's not 765 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:42.199 that's not real life, like what you think that's gonna happen in the league. 766 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:50.320 Like no like unless you Stefan Dicks. But it's like, so I 767 00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:52.719 feel like it's getting these kids the wrong mindset. Yeah, okay, you're 768 00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:57.880 getting paid, but it's like you could have just like go and come as 769 00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:00.880 you please, and then it's the high school kids can't It looks it's just 770 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:05.079 like I don't I'm I'm not a fan of transfer portal just because I was 771 00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:07.800 at the bottom and made the cream bowl rids to the top. Regardless. 772 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:12.519 I feel like wherever you're at, yeah, so there's a lot of kids 773 00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.719 like you. Then you're saying spot that don't get that opportunity anymore. But 774 00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:21.719 you talked about the fight bringing the team closer. Right in Michigan State today 775 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:28.360 today had really lived on getting players out of the portal. This year got 776 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.480 hit by the quortal, but right got the starting quarterback and number one returning 777 00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:37.400 receiver both post and left because of the portal. Do you think that's a 778 00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:43.880 moment for this team right here in twenty twenty three to be able to crystallize 779 00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:50.079 and come closer. Definitely. M I feel like the best time to come 780 00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:53.320 together for that type of is now when you feel like everybody's against you and 781 00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:58.840 all y'all guidance yourselves. So, like you said, my quarterback going our 782 00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:02.000 number are number. We see it from the year before, gone and one 783 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:05.519 and one got dropped it. So it's just like if we're gonna, if 784 00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:10.280 we're gonna do this, it's us versus everybody. We can't. We can't 785 00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:15.039 do this. We don't. We are not relying on ESPN to break us 786 00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:19.159 high. We're not relying on a team to just come out and lay down 787 00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:22.159 on us. We need to come out, get cold each other, whatever 788 00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:25.440 it is on the field, off the field, hang out, play videos, 789 00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.800 all that type of stuff. More than just going over plays. It's 790 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:32.880 it's your brother, it's your brotherhood. So it's like we spartan dogs. 791 00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:36.679 We know how it is, you know what I'm saying. So maybe we 792 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.159 didn't have all that transfer proto back then stuff, But any new guy that 793 00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:43.079 comes into that locker room, you want to us now. So if you 794 00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.960 if you, if you're a kicker, Conroy, his locker is right next 795 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:49.360 to mine. Now is my brother. You know what I'm saying. You're 796 00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.440 coming in, you're the kicker, you're the quarterback, you're starting quarterback, 797 00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.000 you backup running back. I don't care who you are. I need everybody 798 00:57:55.079 --> 00:58:00.800 to beat himself and just geil with the team because of the day. If 799 00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:02.960 everybody out there every man for himself, we can't win any games, you 800 00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:07.960 know, football game of inches calculated. We all gotta make this stuff go 801 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:13.840 together. And if one guys off, the ship can't move. And I 802 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:16.199 was and to your point, b J. You know, I was giving 803 00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:20.679 a tour yesterday for the group and you know, we went into the football 804 00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:23.719 facility. And when you think about the process, like you remember like if 805 00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:28.519 you have vets that were once you sitting in the back, and every year 806 00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.480 you make your way to the front, like it's that's that's the culture, 807 00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:35.360 that's the process. Like when you come in the vets, man, they 808 00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:37.960 earned that spot right, Like it wasn't given to them fresh off, you 809 00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:40.840 know, coming from high school. And I was just telling them about it's 810 00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:45.679 like business, like you got rookies, you got got young employees coming in, 811 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:47.599 you got a grooming but you gotta understand it is a process. Like 812 00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:51.599 you're not gonna get it right away. Um, but yeah, that's a 813 00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.000 good point, man, Like to your people are just quickly like look to 814 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:58.239 your left or to your right. That guy ain't gonna be here in a 815 00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:05.280 week or so or in the next season, like yeah, yeah, straight 816 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:12.079 league, the league. Yeah you mean but BJ, so, I mean 817 00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:15.400 we you know, everyone on this because we had we had a ball at 818 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.639 Michigan State. You know, we knew how to have fun. Uh so 819 00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:22.480 you know when you weren't playing football and you weren't at the i M you 820 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:28.920 know, hooping against the narves, uh get their fights where But you know, 821 00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:31.039 like what was gonna say, You gotta you gotta explain what the narves 822 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:37.599 are to the play please, because it sounds like nark like what's the narps? 823 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:45.079 Tell the arps it's normal, regular ass persons. You're playing against the 824 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:52.760 other the larks at the IMF getting in fights because you know, hoopers can 825 00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.239 you know, start lowering their shoulder and everyone all those other guys try to 826 00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:59.920 thing because they see BJ playing on Saturdays now they think this is their opportunity 827 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.360 to go out there and you know, show him up on the basketball court. 828 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:07.760 But besides that stuff, like you know, we we we had fun. 829 01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:10.039 What was your favorite water and hole in east Lands? And what's your 830 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:17.800 spot? They used to you know, slide through for a quick six slide, 831 01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:23.480 Harper's Spot, Harper's spot, I got, I got, I got 832 01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:30.360 great times to Harper's for the East, for there, and you was a 833 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:37.760 slogan army. We have the Harpers. Harper's is a partner. Thank you. 834 01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:43.360 I don't know how this is, man, but I remember Wednesdays, 835 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:49.039 Thursdays. Man, Look listen, especially when I was red certain Thursday, 836 01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:52.760 this Sunday, and it wasn't that it was day and I had the best 837 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.239 grades. I had my best grades. Then did you did you say you 838 01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:04.840 were red certain? Did you come into college as a twenty one? It 839 01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:15.719 was before, it was before the eat the eats man, just actually the 840 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:27.119 limitations. They'll give you a residual m P. I'll be happy to go 841 01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:32.079 back down and grab that. What else do I need? Well, we 842 01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:37.519 go a couple of weekends at Spartan dot Com. We're gonna you know, 843 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:39.960 relive a little bit. Yeah, man, I can't wait. Are y'all 844 01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:44.559 are y'all golfing? Yeah? You know, I just pick. I just 845 01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:46.559 bought me some clubs. But on my birthday. Base. So I'm trying 846 01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:51.559 to trying to get right now, trying to drop that shoulder a little bit 847 01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.679 left, left, right left, you right. I just found out golf 848 01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:05.920 right, golf right. Okay, that's why I look crazy. Say that's 849 01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:07.920 the right side of the ball. You don't need jokes out of hand, 850 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:12.960 you go from the wrong side of the ball. Uh, that's how it 851 01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:17.679 started off. Oh my goodness, look like so so you and Mark Dell 852 01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:21.280 though, I think you guys, are you gotta camp coming up here? 853 01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.360 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, July thirtieth, Uh in Farmington. It's at 854 01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:28.480 the field at the Hawk, the field, the old Farmington High School field, 855 01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:34.199 Um right there. Yeah, it's a back to camp, back to 856 01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.239 the camp skills camp pretty much, you know, people going back to the 857 01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:39.599 training camps for a college, high school, that type of stuff. So 858 01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:42.800 we're just throwing the camp for the guys to come out and get right, 859 01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:46.679 get some get some new techniques and you known, run a little condition and 860 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:50.440 get them on some two minute you know, two minute routes. You know, 861 01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:52.159 move the ball, move the change type stuff. You know. But 862 01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:55.719 you know that's my dog man. I love going back back to to to 863 01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:00.559 menting with my brother man. So so it's another she used for me to 864 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:05.000 go hang out with the bro too. Also, this part of dog Time's 865 01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:09.840 gonna run long. Oh yeah, I'm taking the whole week. I'll be 866 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:16.840 back. I'm looking forward to seeing you, man. I can't wait to 867 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:22.559 see y'all boys. Man, I can't wait. Oh you know one oh 868 01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.559 me? Yeah? Oh no, Look man, I don't talking to BJ 869 01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:29.400 all day, man, Like well, I wish we had our pictures because 870 01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:32.480 like the Columbus when we went to the NCAA tournament, man, like BJ 871 01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:37.719 coach d everybody was there, Curshaw, We're going to seeing basketball, celebrating 872 01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:45.760 and I remember seeing my nanna was there with you. You're talking about my 873 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:50.320 nanna, my grandma and all that. Yeah, I had a couple uh 874 01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.760 betties. You know. It was like I was. I was excited because 875 01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:58.360 like we took it, took care of isn't so when I saw it, 876 01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:01.719 I was like, let's do a jump. So let's go. He's just 877 01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:09.519 heeling good, but now I can't moving left. That was like one of 878 01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:12.360 those hits you did on your rich one of those your sophomore year olds. 879 01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:16.800 Yeah, coming back, it always happens, BJ Man, great stuff, 880 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.199 man. I meant to talk to you a long time, man, and 881 01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:23.960 then let's select you on what you're doing with the big ten Network on the 882 01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.840 podcast you join in our world. Yeah, Man, just just pleasure having 883 01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:30.320 you. Then, thank you for joining us as farther Man. We'd love 884 01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:32.039 to have you back. I appreciate y'all man, thanks for having me on. 885 01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:34.519 Man. I was great to have y'all back. Shot. I want 886 01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:36.320 to get you all our mind, bring y'all on to be on a big 887 01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:41.360 man. Let's do it it, just do it man. But now thank 888 01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:43.400 you guys. So I can't wait to see you all a couple of weeks. 889 01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:47.159 Mann. Appreciate you, brother. I love man, love love you. 890 01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:53.239 B J cunning him Man, that was good, like I love when 891 01:04:53.280 --> 01:05:02.440 we started to talk about all stories we say Wednesday, the sudden oh wow 892 01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:09.360 remember them things? Oh guys, yes me Lane Man, you know BJ 893 01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.039 there, but that the presence of mind on that field as the Big ten 894 01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.679 championship, that was crazy. From my sideline important days, I was like 895 01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:19.599 real close to that. It was right there with Keishan, you know, 896 01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:26.719 caught the pass right there and they called him out of bounds or I hate 897 01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:32.760 the bread of our boy got pushed into the punter Isaiah Lewis same punt. 898 01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:36.159 Keshan took it to the five yard line, three yard line. We were 899 01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:40.599 about to win the game, and then I got enough. Always got to 900 01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:45.280 fight with a Wisconsin fan in the stands, Like it's like this you don't 901 01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.719 like or is it just fan? I don't know, man, Like I 902 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:50.920 don't like. I don't like when fans come into your like, don't come 903 01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:54.719 into my personal space, bro, Like I ain't come into your personal space. 904 01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:59.760 Don't come into my personal space gloating and going like hah and not for 905 01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:02.559 me to expect me to say something or put my hands or push you off 906 01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:05.880 of me, Like I just that's just a little different because you played and 907 01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:10.960 you understand the exs and os, and some of those fans don't understand. 908 01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:15.079 So you actually wrapped and concept of what happened, and they're just like, 909 01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:20.639 you know, good, he sucks, Yeah, you know, the emotion 910 01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:24.599 of it all. The guy's great show. Another great show, guys. 911 01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:29.559 I mean, you know, I think the highlight, aside from b J, 912 01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:33.079 I think has to be the air guitar. Can we hear that one 913 01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:40.239 time before we go all watch take us on out take us going out take 914 01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:43.199 us to give us some time. Well, I wish you could have the 915 01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:45.760 other one because the other one had it where he was seeing stand? Was 916 01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:53.920 it standing? Yeah? Just he was gonna lose yourself. I don't know, 917 01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:56.719 I mean, I don't know. Maybe the Tonys are not able to 918 01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:29.599 he's got his castle. Castle. You're so giddy like a little kid like. 919 01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:38.960 Yes, it was getting you man, Cow Cow, what did cow 920 01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:45.400 say? You say you look like a girl. Bat Man was happy. 921 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:49.320 It's all good man, my six year in verse. I'll take it all 922 01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:56.000 day. Man. Man, it's like nobody's watching many exactly. That's all 923 01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.840 good man. We love it man. You know, look, guys on 924 01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.320 a right area. Pancakes, Cow on you all on you Cow. We're 925 01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:06.440 gonna go visit account whenever spartan dog time. Man. We got a lot 926 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:10.840 to talk about. Next show. We got special guests coming up. We're 927 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:13.239 gonna talk about that. You'll see it. Follow social media, don't forget 928 01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:17.279 to click the like and subscribe buttons. Thank everybody for otis Wiley JU called 929 01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:20.000 Jason Strayhorn. This is Sparta MS. You have a good night, God 930 01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:25.600 blessing and go green, go white, Go ahead. 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