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also going to talk a lot about what's changed with this offense and reset the
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with the evolution of this offense with Jake running at quarterback, because I think
we all can agree at this point there are significant differences we've seen the last
two weeks. There are significant changes, changes that have certainly helped him and
made this offense it's fun to watch as it's been or put it like this,
because I actually, come on, let's be honest here, it's been
really fun. And people are comparing Joe Burrow and Jake Browning and the offenses
and all of those things. They were really really good before Burrow went down.
They had a lead on arguably the top team in the league, and
they beat the top They either beat the top team in the league or had
a lead against the top team in the league when Burrow was in. So
whatever they were doing was working. And I'm referring to San Francisco forty nine
Ers and then the Baltimore Ravens. But Jake Browning isn't Joe Burrow. And
we said that going into the Steelers game, and it took the coaching staff
a week. It took Jake Browning a week. It took this franchise a
week to adjust, to make the changes necessary or to go to the part
of the playbook that fit Browning best and fit this offense best. And it's
clearly working. Thirty four points two straight games. The offense won them the
game in Jacksonville. The defense was great on Sunday against the Colts, but
the offense held up their end of the bargain as well and gave them an
early lead, which obviously helps the defense a ton, helps this team a
ton, So this offensive staff deserves a lot of credit We can get into
that, but I know you pulled some stats. So how different is this
offense right now compared to what we saw with Joe Burrow From a numbers perspective,
you can pick stat a split and it significantly changed the last three weeks
and compared to what they're doing with Joe Burrow. The most obvious thing,
and we've talked about this is the dismissal of empty stuff that they love doing
with Joe Burrow. The purpose of that, of course, is to flood
the coverage with concepts, and Joe Burrow does what he does. He's very
good at identifying this is a concept that I need to read out on this
play because this is a coverage I'm getting and this is a guy that's going
to be open. That's what Joe Burrows very good at. That's why he
likes empty so much. It lets him distribute the ball quickly, accurately,
get the boll to his playmakers on time, sometimes in space, give them
yard after catch opportunities with his elite ball placement. Jake Browning doesn't really do
all of that at the level Joe Burrow does, and you wouldn't expect him
to write he's a backup quarterback, and he certainly has his strengths, but
that type of quick processing of full field reads and concepts where he has to
pick aside based on a look. He can't go through full progression. But
you don't want him to do it the whole game. You don't want him
to live in it. You don't want to live in it out of empty
in particular. So that's one big difference that we can just eyeball test.
But you look at play action. For example, the last three weeks against
the Steelers, eighteen point eight percent of the Bengals dropbacks for play action.
In week thirteen against the Jaguars, noticeable uptick right we saw those boots.
We noticed it up to twenty seven and a half percent in week fourteen.
Fewer pass attempts overall, but play action comprising forty two point three percent of
the Bengals passing attempts this week against the Colts in week fourteen. Similar you
look at screens from six point three percent to seventeen and a half percent,
big jump right from twelve to thirteen, another jump up to twenty three percent
in week fourteen. Again, fewer overall snaps, but play action and screens
two numbers to start, and I have two more that you can look at
and see from a stat perspective in addition to those eye test things. Significant
did shifts in a clear direction the last three weeks. And it's interesting because
there's a lot of people that have said, all right, well, this
offense is completely like rebuilt itself. Looks completely different and it looks different,
and those stats back that up. But these are topics, not necessarily the
screen game, but the play action stuff. We talked about it this offseason.
We've have multiple shows going back to OTA's watching Burrow work under center.
Like I think that it was a goal of Theirs to be more diverse and
maybe less empty all the time, and part of it, a big part
of why they weren't, especially early in the season, I think had to
do with that calf injury for Burrow. So to do it now and implement
it, I think it makes a ton of sense. Clearly, Browning is
comfortable and you just want to make life easier, and you could go way
back if you want to go to the Mark Sanchez versus the Bengals too,
was a nine playoff game at pay Corps where awful, awful game. I
hated it right, broke my heart at the time, but they made life
easier Mark Sanchez. That's why he made it to back to back AFC title
games. Really good defense, running the ball, play action, easy decisions,
make a couple of big throws each game. And this Bengals coaching staff
they've shown that they can do that with Browning, and Browning as show that
he's capable of making some big throws, throws that are necessary plays in important
moments and key spots, and so thus far it feels pretty sustainable. I
don't know if the numbers will stay there right, Like the screen passes,
I don't think they're going to average, you know, one screen per game
that goes for thirty nine or more yards, which is the case over the
past three games going back to the Pittsburgh game. I think that's unrealistic.
But they've found ways to get the ball to their playmakers in space and make
Browning's life easier, and he should only get more and more comfortable, not
less comfortable. So it's it's great that they've had that to lean on.
Yeah, the screen game in particular is something that I think is very matchup
specific. They have these defenses. The last couple of weeks that are sending
guys up field, they're very aggressive on the defensive line. The defenses will
be different going forward. For example, Gus Bradley blitz maybe like two times
the entire game. He doesn't blitz Flores defense coming up Minnesota Gonna blitz the
heck out of Jake Browning next week, So there will be some differences in
that way and blitzaying Hey, you can catch the blitz with the screen at
the right time, you're gonna have a big gain off it. Just for
a reference, the last couple of weeks, the play action rates twenty seven
and a half percent forty two percent. This week screen rate seventeen and a
half percent twenty three percent with Joe Burrow. The play action rate this season
was twenty point six percent, So we're a little bit hire the last couple
of weeks with Jake Bridning to a lot higher. This week with Jake Browning's
screen rate with Burrow at quarterback was twelve and a half percent. And I
think the biggest thing in the screen game is they've been much more effective with
the screens. They're not necessarily running them a ton more. Although this week
they did there's a little bit of an uptick in usage of screens and a
big uptick and effectiveness of the screen game the last two weeks, and I
said, I have two more numbers, and some of this is going to
lead to a conversation about where we are on this coaching staff and their ability
to adapt, as I think they've proven that yet again they do in fact
have that capability, they have that flexibility in their toolkit. So we will
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But we're also gonna have to talk about this coaching stuff, right the flexibility
they've shown, the major philosophical changes we've seen from them the last two weeks.
What do you think First things first, the same people that came with
the energy of what is Zach Taylor's record without Joe Burrow. And I get
it because it was ugly without Joe Burrow. But this team, as bad
as they were in twenty nineteen, look at that roster. It would have
been ugly with any coach in twenty twenty. I had my doubts, But
Zach Taylor's done a lot since then, and some people anytime there's a struggle
morph back into that mindset of twenty twenty. It's time to evolve. It's
time to evolve Zach Taylor conversation and admit that, Hey, winning season in
twenty one and oh wait, not only did they get to or win the
AFC North, but they get to a Super Bowl that builds up equity.
Then they get to the AFC Title Game after winning the AFC North again.
Okay, they're not going to win the division this year. No team has
won it three straight years. But despite that, they're seven and six and
we're talking about playoffs, even though Joe Burrow has been out for three games
now and was limited to start the season. So Zach Taylor deserves credit for
evolving, for figuring this out and putting a more than competent effective offense out
there and explosive offense out there, and Brian Callahan took a lot of heat
too, and he deserves credit, and so does Frank Pollack. Because Frank
Pollock was it felt like, from a fan base standpoint, scapegoat was what
everyone was pointing at and looking at. Well, if you want to point
out how he's the run game coordinator when the run game stinks and they really
struggle to run the ball eight times for sixteen yards against the Steelers, let's
point it out now, because the past two weeks the offense is ran through
the running backs and a lot of it and has produced a bunch of explosive
plays and is a big reason why the offense has scored thirty plus points in
each of the past two games. So I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm
not saying they're going to be great on Saturday against the Vikings. Hell,
I'm no fortune teller. What I can tell you is that there are people
that just jump off the moment it gets ugly for a second, and then
I don't think they give proper credit. And that's fine if you want to
jump off and be critical. I'm not even debating that that's not really the
point. The point is now they're coaching their asses off and they deserve cra
and this offensive staff I should mention Dan Pitcher too, because they're doing a
great job. It's been effective. Jake seems comfortable, this offense is working,
Joe Mixon has been as effective as he's been all season. Like wherever
you look, it makes a ton of sense and it's working. So coaching
staff top to bottom deserves a ton of credit on the offensive side for figuring
this out without Joe Burrow. Yeah, you take it where you can get
it. In the last couple of weeks against some defenses that aren't necessarily world
beaters, and it will be a little bit harder down the stretch. They
play three very very good defenses in their last few games of the season,
finishing with Steelers, Chiefs, Browns. Those are three of the better defenses
in the AFC, if not the best defense in the league of the Browns,
which they have been really for the entire year. So they have their
work cut out for them, and we might be revisiting this again in a
few weeks if they can't figure out some answers against those good defenses as well.
But they do deserve credit, I think for being adaptable. And this
is what I was talking about early this year when I said they figured it
out, and they have. They have a track record, a consistent track
record that at this point of figuring it out. Sometimes it's frustrating because they've
had these slow starts and it's like, why is it taking so long?
Why can't they figure this out at the start of the season. Why are
they getting off to these slow starts and digging themselves these holes? This year,
I think a lot of it was to do with Joe Burrow's calf,
and I think that we would have seen way more of this play action game
earlier this year, and probably more of the boot game as well as Joe
Burrow specifically worked on his athleticism and being on the move and throwing on the
run this offseason to prepare for this NFL season. I think we would have
seen a lot of this stuff if not for that calf injury. So the
early season grade is around them not adapting properly. Maybe they should have played
Jake Browning. I don't know, we'll never know that. That's like hindsight
analysis that I don't really think is worth the time. But they should get
consistent for their track record of figuring things out over the course of the season,
making changes, being adaptable, and finding the right buttons to push,
whether that's taking the stress off the offensive line, going from a team that
was about league average and true pass sets to the last three weeks being thirty
five and a half twenty six percent and twenty nine percent in true pass sets,
meaning those are the ones that aren't quick game play action boot RPO where
they have to sit there and just block a straight drop back. They're not
doing that as much anymore with Jake Browning as they did with Joe Burrow.
They're taking the stress off the offensive line. They found ways to do that.
They've shown that they have that kind of offense in their repertoire, and
maybe overall it's like a twenty five percent different offense. I don't think it's
like this night and day entirely different offense or running with Jake Browning, but
that change is enough for it to be very effective, and I think to
give them something to consider when Joe Burrow returns in the future too. No
doubt, I think that there are certainly that will translate that they'll use with
Burrow I do. I'm going to go down the hindsight path because I know
people will. I just want to address this and be very very clear of
how I stand. There is not a world where anybody would have played Jake
Brown and going into that Cleveland game because everyone thought Burrow was close to one
hundred percent, everybody including Joe all Right. Then in the Baltimore game,
still good to go. He played really well in the second half before re
injuring it season on the line eight days later, played pretty well against the
Rams and they won, and then you had the awful outing against Tennessee,
no doubt about it. But are you benching him after the Rams win?
Probably not. You didn't know it was going to look like that against Tennessee,
and then that's when the wind streak got rolling, and they got rolling
as a team that's starting in Arizona. So there was never really unless you
would have said it he wasn't healthy going into the season, which no one
thought. No one thought he was at sixty percent or whatever you want to
say going into the year. Then I think that the hindsight is what it
is, and people will go back and say, oh, what you should
have They shouldn't have because it would have taken The other part is they it
would have taken Browning a few weeks to get comfortable. It would have taken
this offense a few weeks to adjust and then what So I think they made
the right call there, even though people might go back and say otherwise,
that said, yeah, it's clearly working. The credit deserves to be there,
and I think people should be able to I certainly did. I just
did, and you probably feel the same way, even if you don't want
to go down the hindsight path. Is they clearly deserve credit for in the
moment after the devastating injury, after an ugly loss to Pittsburgh, where it
felt like things were collapsing and it was just going to be over and we
were going to do mock draft Mondays within a week, flipping the script.
And now they're seven and six after being five and six, and in a
twelve day span, Jake, if they can handle business against Minnesota, which
isn't going to be easy. But if they can handle business against Minnesota,
you win three games in twelve days. That's insane. And yet it's what
the Bengals have a chance to do with Jake Browning on Saturday. That's right.
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coaching staff, and then we'll talk about those playoff scenarios. Defense also defensive
staff. At least for one week. Lou Ana Rimo's guys and lou Ada
Remo deserve credit for the performance against the Indianapolis Colts, and they well need
more of that down the stretch at least is my belief. Maybe not against
the Minnesota Vikings, who looks dysfunctional. I didn't see how that game ended,
but they won three nothing Are you kidding me? Against the Raid I
mean, I know the Raiders can rush a passer, but come on,
hey, hey, I'm not taking them lightly though, No, I'm just
not. But the last few games against the Bears, they scored ten.
Against the Raiders they scored three. The defensive is a job to do,
but Minnesota needs to find some answers too. We'll talk with Luke about that
game coming up in the near future. But Steelers Chiefs Browns teams with fierce
defenses of their own, the defense for the Bengals will need to answer in
kind for the Bengals to necessarily have their best shot at winning those games.
Barring the offense, I think exceeding expectations against good defenses. The last thing
I'll say about this on the offensive coaches is, I don't think that this
change I kind of hinted at it is necessarily super radical what they're doing with
Jake Browning. They're they're incorporating more concepts as Zach Taylor came from in the
Sean McVay offense of Brian Callahan came from with his Gruden influence coaching tree.
More of these boots, more play action this is stuff, and more diverse
personnel groupings too. They're using two tight ends more, I think in the
last couple of weeks with Drew sample, Tanner Hudson and Mitchell Wilcox getting the
majority of the playing time. Actually this week, Irv Smith getting the least
naps for any tight end. So that's an interesting note. But this is
just modernizing the offense. Evolving the offense probably the next step for the offense,
and it's something that I think should be easy to incorporate with Joe Burrow
in the future as well, taking a little bit off his plate, taking
more of those easy buttons. And I don't think it's a wholesale change.
This is why, if you've talked to me about this on Twitter, I've
resisted the idea that they can just quote unquote run this offense for Joe Burrow,
but you do need to take a lot of element it's from it.
It's a balance they need to strike of letting Burrow play to his strengths and
also using offensive design to their benefit, which is something that we've clearly seen
in the last few weeks. They know how to do, and it's just
finding the right buttons to push at the right time and getting into that rhythm
in the future when it's Joe Burrow, who can do way more for you
than Jake Brown Camp and I think that if there is a blessing in the
Burrow injury, it might be that that this offense long term can hit a
gear and evolve into something that we haven't seen yet. And there'll be plenty
of time to discuss that. But this coaching staff, they've been forced to
evolve at least a bit or adjust, and we've seen them adjust over the
years, and so I think you can only grow from that. And by
the way, last thing, Jake Browning, he is restricted next year and
will be a Bengal. So if anyone says, oh my god, he's
gonna get paid else, I've gotten that a lot. I think a lot
of people have, Jake. You probably have too. So Jake Browning will
be in Cincinnati next year. That's what he's essentially guaranteed. I think with
these past couple of games, there's no doubt about that. Not only as
he restricted, he's an exclusive rights free agent, which means that unless the
Bengals go out and decide to reward him with a multi year contract and pay
him, which will be a little bit surprising considering their control, that's a
less than one million dollar salary for Jake Browning next year. Just in case
you're curious about the cap implications, restricted free agents will get paid a little
bit more. Let's shift gears. Let's take a quick look at this playoff
picture yesterday when we were recording the Bengals for the seventh seed, and then
the Broncos game finished and the tiebreakers got all weird. There are six teams
at seven and six currently and from the sixth seed in the playoffs all the
way down to the Buffalo Bills, who after beating the Kansas City Chiefs,
are rewarded with the eleventh spot in the playoff rankings, which is actually just
one behind the Bengals. The Bengals dropped from seven to ten after the Broncos
win because what ended up happening was you jumped into a four way tiebreaker for
that seventh seed, and instead of it being a head to head Colts Bengals
tiebreaker, it turned into a four way tiebreaker using conference win percentage, where
the Bengals are three and six and pretty far behind in that tiebreaker with those
teams. Yeah, it's a giant cluster. Let's call it what it is.
If you had to rank the Bengals games from like most important to least
important, Saturday is the least important, which on the surface you could say
because of the AFC, but just where the Steelers are, where the Browns
are winning those two games is just so huge for their playoff chances in having
a shot. But you got to get three. They have to get three
somewhere. If you get four, well then you better book those playoff tickets,
Jake Lisco, because they're going to the playoffs. It's like ninety nine
percent that they're in if they went out, and I think three or four
is realistic. But they are going to have to evolve a bit in how
they I don't think they're going to score thirty in Pittsburgh. I think that's
tough to do. Or thirty against the Browns in Week eighteen, or thirty
in Arrowhead with Jake Bryan. I think all three of those it's really really
tough. So this defense you mentioned the defense, I think the defense and
lou probably knew it going into that game, and that's probably why they only
gave up eight points and they could have given up twelve if the kicker showed
up for the cult. So even so, that's why they played the way
they did. I bet, oh, are you counting the two point conversion?
I was like, how do we get to eight? And it's the
two point conversion? I got it. Yeah, the defense will need to
to step up down the stretch, and it's just it just speaks to the
muddle middle of the AFC this year that there's six teams at seven and six,
there are three more teams at eight and five, including the Jacksonville Jaguars,
who have lost to in a row, the Cleveland Browns, who just
named Joe Flacco their quarterback for the rest of the season. I mean,
we were really gonna have Joe Flacco and defense again. I mean that that's
the story we've seen before. But these are the teams ahead of the Bengals
where the AFC just looks fallible. Baltimore Ravens needed a punt return touchdown in
overtime to beat the Rams at home yesterday. Not taking anything away from the
Rams, but they're currently six and seven, so it's you understand why their
mentality in the building is like get to the playoffs. Anything could happen if
they if they catch a heater at the right time, if they can play
well in these games any given Sunday. I think that's very true in the
NFL right now, But the rest of the games are all important. Like
you said, I think they need at least three There is a scenario technically
where I think nine and eight gets in, but it's not a scenario you
want to live in. If you're the Bengals, three should give you a
pretty good shot. You still need a little bit of help, but it's
not like you're you have crazy asks. The one other thing that's not in
their favor is I think their schedule is just harder than some of the other
teams in the mix here. Not all of them, I think. I
think some of them have tough schedules too. But you're looking at a team
that already has played the hardest schedule in the AFC this year, has the
second highest now strength of victory in the AFC, third highest my apologies,
third highest strength of victory in the AFC, And that schedule doesn't get easier
down the stretch for the Bengals, and so it will be tough. But
the path is there, and in a sense, they really do still control
their own destiny if they can win out. Oh for sure, no,
they do. That phrase still works. The two most important games are the
division games, and just looking at the way the percentages swing, we don't
know what's going to happen. Things change really, really quick. But getting
that game in Pittsburgh is such a huge, huge, huge opportunity, And
at the same time, it's like you look back, you're like, man,
if they had just played a little bit better against Pittsburgh a few weeks
ago, it wouldn't feel like this. They would feel they would be in
the playoffs as of now, and there wouldn't be really zero margin for error
because they have roughly if they go two and two down the stretch, and
those two wins are against the Steelers and Browns, the two most important games,
you only have a thirteen percent chance of getting in. So it's you
need a lot to break your way. If you only go two and two
down the stretch here, it's gonna be tough. But they're interesting and they're
fun, and that's good news for everybody who likes to follow this team.
I think that's what you would hopeful with Jake Browning at quarterback, and so
I'm still excited to watch the rest of the year. Tomorrow, we'll dive
into the tape, then we'll get into the vikings with the first look with
Luke coming up on Thursday. In a couple episodes from now tomorrow, Mike
Santagon will be with us to take a look at some of the film takeaways
from the Bengals Week fourteen game. Until then, thanks for listening to this
episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast WHO Day and having a