WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.240 --> 00:01:30.680 At at Hey, everyone, thanks so much for joining us for this special 2 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:36.439 night Monday Night episode of dog Mean Encounters for Tonight's show. I'm bringing on 3 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:42.640 a Canadian dog mean Encounter researcher. Ever since I started daring episodes of dog 4 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:47.640 mean Encounters years ago, back in twenty fifteen, almost from the start, 5 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:51.480 people would ask me, what about Canadian dog mean encounters? Do you get 6 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:56.239 many coming in or is it a rarity? Well, I found the perfect 7 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:00.359 person to bring on Tonight's show and answer questions like that and just talk about 8 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:06.560 these encounters in Canada and general without anymore Ado. Let's bring him on here 9 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:13.759 now. Of course, Tonight's guest is Dan Hammond. Dan, thanks so 10 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:15.639 much for coming. Well, thank you so much for having me. This 11 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:20.599 is cool. Well, that's great having you in. I don't know if 12 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:25.000 I'm the perfect person, but I'll try my best. I love that trust 13 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:30.719 me. You are you are. I'll take your word for it. Dan, 14 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:36.879 Please give us a brief bio on yourself. I am a been a 15 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:45.879 paranormal investigator for seven or eight years. I'm a member of an actual paranormal 16 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:53.400 investigation team called ship Ship, which is strange happenings investigators of the Paranormal and 17 00:02:53.479 --> 00:03:00.520 I'm also part of Ontario Sasquatch And for your American listeners or Internet listeners, 18 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:07.680 Ontario is a province in Canada. Tons of Sasquatch signings up here, and 19 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:15.159 we're getting more and more dog man related stuff as it comes in. I 20 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.159 think that, you know, and you might agree with me, you know, 21 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:23.759 wherever you are in the US. Dog man is a touchy subject even 22 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:31.039 for you know, people who believe encryptids and and sasquatch researchers, because it's 23 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:36.280 not uh and we were talking about this earlier before we started to record, 24 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:39.639 that it's a bit of a touchy subject and it's not. It's not like 25 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:45.960 a Sasquatch is a household name. You know. Like I said earlier, 26 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.520 if if you stop someone on the street and, you know, say what 27 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.680 do you think about Sasquatch or Bigfoot? They're gonna have an opinion and they're 28 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:54.800 gonna know what you're talking about. But if you say dog man, you 29 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:59.439 know, you're gonna get a you know, nine times out of ten or 30 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.879 more, you're going to get a funny look and people are going to go 31 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:04.840 with the heck as a dog man, you know, or they might think 32 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:10.039 it's like that a kid's book, that popular kids book called dog Man that's 33 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:13.840 out there, or you know, or they're just gonna keep on walking. 34 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:25.720 So as for losing my camera here, pardon me. Yeah, I mean 35 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:30.480 I love I love all things paranormal and all things crypted, and you know, 36 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.800 I have an open mind for everything, and I know these things exist 37 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:39.759 and you and I know that you know that they exist. So I started 38 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:45.560 a Facebook page called Canadian dog Man Encounters and uh, don't get too much 39 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:51.399 interaction from people, get the odd message, and I've had some really good 40 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:57.000 ones. We're for sightings and interactions and we can get into that as we 41 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.920 go in. Well, it goes with that saying, Dan, your neck 42 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.000 deep in all this cryptid stuff. I'm wondering though, how did you get 43 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:10.439 to your start? What was the catalyst that got you into this for the 44 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:16.519 cryptids or everything paranormal for the cryptid side. Well, I guess a lot 45 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:19.759 of people will always start out saying that, you know, they saw the 46 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:28.839 Patterson Kumlin film, the Sasquatch film taken in out in California, and it 47 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:30.439 probably I don't even know how old I was when it came out. It 48 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:34.040 was just a little kid, but I probably saw that and you know, 49 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:43.120 probably fascinated at the time. But I think mostly for me, it started 50 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:47.439 with more paranormal things, Like I grew up in a haunted house as a 51 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:50.839 kid. I went through a lot of crazy things, bad things when I 52 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:57.360 was a kid, and I was asked to put all that stuff behind me 53 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:01.720 until I became an adult, and I think it just it just grows from 54 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:06.279 there. Like if you're going to be interested in ghosts, then you're you're 55 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:14.120 probably going to be interested in UFOs, cryptids, everything, paranormal. Everything 56 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:19.360 is supernatural. So I can't I can't think of one specific defining moment, 57 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:27.480 but I think it's all like an umbrella type thing. Yeah, it's kind 58 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.879 of like an onion. You get into one aspect of it, and as 59 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:32.720 you get deeper and deeper, you find out about more and more things, 60 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:36.480 and it spreads out and there are more layers and everything, and before you 61 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:41.199 know it, you're just into so many different aspects of it. I definitely 62 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:46.920 understand, Yeah, for sure, I do. Have you had any sightings 63 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:50.680 of your own of a sasquatch or a dog man over the years? Dog 64 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:57.839 men know I haven't had any physical sightings of a Sasquatch. I've had a 65 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:01.199 lot of interactions with them. I've had you know, we've had the rocks 66 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:06.279 thrown at us. We've had the tree knocking conversations, the footstops, we've 67 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:12.000 left gift you know, we've had gifting stations up north in an area that 68 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:17.639 I go with some of the other Ontario Sasquat researchers and uh oh, and 69 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:23.839 we've had the eye shine and of course seen the little orbs of light floating 70 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:28.759 through the trees. You'll hear you hear a lot of people discuss that and 71 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.759 you know, relate them or in relation to big quod sightings. Uh So, 72 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:39.480 a lot of it has been on the peripheral, like like I said, 73 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:44.000 the tree knocking, the rocks being thrown. But as of yet, 74 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:48.439 I haven't had a physical sighting yet. But there's always you know, there's 75 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:53.959 always hope for the future. Well you never know just might happen, might 76 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:59.160 happen next week. It's really well, you know, I listened to quite 77 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:03.040 a few Sasquatch podcasts and you know, some of the hosts will say, 78 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.759 well, be careful what you wish for, because you know it could mess 79 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:11.600 up your head or or you know, you might see one and you might 80 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.839 never want to go back into the woods again. But I've gone, you 81 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:24.759 know, I've I've had some crazy, crazy paranormal encounters with spirits and non 82 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:30.240 entities or non human entities. So I think I'm pretty good. I'm I've 83 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:35.240 got a bit of an armor up, so I think I'm prepared to see 84 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.159 a sasquatch. So bring it on. Well, if an experience does happen, 85 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:43.679 we actually see one, I hope you're right about that. Well, 86 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.360 you'll be the first to know. How about that. I appreciate it. 87 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.759 You know me, I'm not going to go anywhere, and if it does 88 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.440 happen, I'd love to hear about it. So absolutely yeah, thanks for 89 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.679 keeping me in mind. Well, Dan, if you don't mind, let's 90 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:00.480 get down to the nuts and bolts of this, and we're going to have 91 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.600 you share some of these dogman experiences that have been shared with you. When 92 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.240 you're telling us about them, please be as descriptive as possible. Okay, 93 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:13.519 absolutely so. Probably the first one that I that I ever got through the 94 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:18.919 website or through the Facebook page was a gentleman out in British Columbia in an 95 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:22.279 area called the Okanagan Valley. I've never been to BC, so I can't 96 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:26.799 really say where the Okanaka Valley is. I think it's it's in the interior 97 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:33.559 part of the province. And this guy, I won't use his name, 98 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.519 obviously, but he messaged me and all he wanted to know was how do 99 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.320 I kill one of these things a dog man? And I said, well, 100 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:45.879 I said, I don't know if you can kill them. I said, 101 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.200 I think more often than that, you'll just piss the thing off, 102 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:52.960 and you don't want to do that. He was at home with his family, 103 00:09:54.559 --> 00:10:01.919 and he and his son at different times or from different advantages. He 104 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.440 was he was looking at his patio doors and his son was looking at another 105 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:13.840 window, and they saw this upright man sized what he described is looked just 106 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:22.799 like a jackal. And I've heard people mentioned this before, the jackal the 107 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.320 look to them. And he said, this thing paced around his porch and 108 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:35.639 his property all night and he's still so he ran and got his crossbow and 109 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.519 knocked an arrow in it. And he said he sat up all night waiting 110 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.399 to shoot this thing, and he could hear it outside after it stepped off 111 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:50.679 the porch, going around his vehicles and and his his I guess his garage 112 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:56.080 or whatever, and he stayed up all night. The sun comes up, 113 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.279 he finally gets the uh, the courage to go outside and see if this 114 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.960 thing has gone or not. And footprints everywhere, and his truck, which 115 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.679 was a little dirty at the time, because I think he was on a 116 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:16.200 dirt road, had these huge paw prints all over the all over the truck, 117 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.840 and the driver's side door was open and you could actually see where this 118 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.679 paw had kind of slid down the truck and popped the door open. So 119 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:33.240 yeah, that really rattled this guy. And this story has gone around a 120 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:35.360 bit to other people as well. I think I was the first one that 121 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:41.039 he told, but it did get out there a little bit within the Big 122 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:46.080 Foot in the dog Man cryptid world, and I haven't I haven't heard from 123 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.759 him since I've tried to get a hold of him, but he's either doesn't 124 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:54.759 bother checking his messages or who knows anything could have happened. I don't think 125 00:11:54.960 --> 00:12:00.799 anything happened to him dog Man related, but who knows. Maybe just got 126 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:05.440 to read this Facebook page. But that was an interesting one because you know. 127 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.360 I have a lot of the photos and I can share them with you 128 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.879 if you like, if you have a site to put them up. Of 129 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:22.000 these these palmarks on the on the truck. I do have a site where 130 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.559 I could put those up, but I'm kind of shying away from posting pictures 131 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.159 anymore. There's so many haters and negative comments and all. I just try 132 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:33.200 to steer away from that. But thanks for offering, though that's too bad. 133 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:35.399 Well, I can share them with you personally if you if you want, 134 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.799 for your own interests. But but they are they are quite quite something 135 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:45.440 to see. Oh no, I believe it. Do you have any other 136 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.840 experiences you could share with this that have been shared with you? There's so 137 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.679 there's a lady that emailed me. I don't know if any of your listeners 138 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.000 are familiar with Toronto. Charles's a big city. I think it's the fourth 139 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:03.320 or fifth biggest city in North America, biggest sitting in Canada. And we 140 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.240 have a federal or a national park called Rouge Park, and it kind of 141 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:13.559 borders so Scarborough's or Chorno's made up bureaus just like New York City. You 142 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:18.159 know, you're Manhattan and you're Brooklyn. So, Toronto has an area called 143 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.080 Scarborough, which is on the far east end of the city and it boarders 144 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:28.799 up to another city called Pickering. And this Rouge Park is about thirty miles 145 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:33.039 thirty square miles and it's accessible three hundred and sixty five days a year. 146 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:37.840 And this woman lots of hiking trails, ponds and everything else. And this 147 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:43.559 girl emails me and she says she saw this dog man on one of the 148 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.679 trails. And this really kind of floored me a bit, because that's almost 149 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.919 like saying like someone's saying that they saw a dog man or bigfoot in Central 150 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:56.840 Park in New York City. And she described this thing as humanoid, tall, 151 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:03.960 all black like the Doberman features, and he was at the bottom of 152 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:09.080 a hill on this trail and it just looked up at her. And the 153 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.759 funny thing is, she said it just kind of disappeared, like it didn't 154 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:16.480 run away, didn't you know, didn't jump into the bush or anything, 155 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:20.320 but it just kind of like dematerialized in front of her. And that really 156 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:26.000 rattled her. And she's another one though, that I've I've tried to get 157 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:30.360 a hold of since just to see if anything else has happened and I can't 158 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:35.840 get can't get a hold of her. But yeah, something in a big 159 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:43.279 city is certainly interesting as well. And you know that that almost ties into 160 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:52.799 a lot of where they're more paranormal than physical. Well, as you know, 161 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:56.679 these guys, they do display some pretty paranormal quality. It's not all 162 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:01.919 of them, of course, but it's not rare for credible eyewitness to come 163 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.200 forward. And when they're laying out the details of their experiences, here's some 164 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:11.960 strange things and all. And these people, I mean, they sound credible 165 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.720 as the day is long. So yeah, sure does make you think and 166 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:22.919 wonder if these guys don't almost all have paranormal abilities and quality still. Well, 167 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.320 I mean I haven't sorry, you know, I haven't listened to your 168 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:30.399 show, but I think I'm going to now. But you know, I 169 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:37.399 listened to the Confessionals Sasquatch chronicles, and I think people like that. You 170 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:43.879 know, you've got those two camps with the Bigfoot people, and you know, 171 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:48.440 some people are so adamant that it's nothing but a giant hominid, you 172 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:54.159 know, bipedal quote unquote monkey or gorilla that we haven't really discovered. And 173 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:58.159 then there's other people that say, well, I think it's more paranormal. 174 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:07.440 They're they're interdimensional. They can use control the vibrational rate so they can disappear, 175 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.879 and you know, you hear people talk about encounters where like in the 176 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:15.799 movie Predator, where when he does his cloaking technology, people have seen something 177 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:21.480 like that moving through the trees, and I think, I think dog Man, 178 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.480 I mean, just from what I've heard, has some of the same 179 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:33.919 traits or qualities or abilities. So it is uh, I mean, it's 180 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:38.519 it's even for someone who's very open minded like me. Uh, it's hard. 181 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:41.840 It's hard to believe. I believe it, but but it's it's hard 182 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:49.240 to believe, and it's it's really hard to convince somebody else that that there 183 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:55.960 might be something more to these beings than just flesh and blood. Oh, 184 00:16:56.039 --> 00:17:00.879 no doubt. Yeah, we haven't even proven that they're extant yet. If 185 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:04.759 you have a quote unquote creature out there that hasn't been proven to be in 186 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:08.640 existence, it's a big leap to try and get people to wrap their minds 187 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:12.920 around them having paranormal abilities. But yeah, to touch on what I said 188 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:18.440 earlier, there have been way too many cases of credible eyewitnesses telling me about 189 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.559 being in Maine on vacation. One day they have a dog man encounter in 190 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.119 the morning, they freak out, they fly home that afternoon, they go 191 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:30.880 to bed after they make it in, and the next morning in Florida where 192 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.880 they live, they go out back and bam, the same dog mans out 193 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.880 there. So how can you explain that a way as being a flesh and 194 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:40.880 blood creature. I mean, that's that's something that you hear time and time 195 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:45.680 again when you do what I do. One thing you'll like. One thing 196 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:51.400 you hear about the dog main phenomena is that they're quite vengeful or vindictive. 197 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:56.400 You know, you've heard reports about police officers shooting at them on the side 198 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:00.400 of the road, you know, like your state troopers or our provincial police. 199 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:03.799 And uh, they'll go home, like you said, and then the 200 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.920 next night they'll you know, they're off duty, and they look outside and 201 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:10.880 there's this this huge thing standing in their backyard. It's like, well, 202 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.680 how the how the heck did this thing find out where I live? And 203 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:18.519 you know, and what's it doing here? And like and I guess, 204 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.799 uh, the shots that I put into it didn't do a darn thing. 205 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:26.279 Anyway, So what's the point? Yeah, that old question, what does 206 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:30.039 it want? That's probably the most important question right there, if it follows 207 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.400 you that far. But yeah, no kidding, Yeah, that's just on 208 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.640 a list of questions. Do you have any other experiences you'd like to share 209 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:41.160 with this that have been shared with you? Uh, there's a lady who 210 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:47.720 lives in Alabama. She's been on my my old podcast that I that I 211 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:49.640 used to have, and I know that she has a YouTube channel. I 212 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:55.240 should have talked to her earlier today, but she has uh ask her permission 213 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:59.400 to give out the name of her show. But she has tons of dog 214 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:06.519 manppearances and I think I think she lived said she lived about twenty thirty minutes 215 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:11.720 away from Mobile, Alabama, and the dog man sightings that she had was 216 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:14.880 on her parents' property, and I guess it was you know, when she 217 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:17.519 still lived there when she was a kid. You know, her property as 218 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:22.599 well. And she's she's even seventy pictures that she's taken. And this dog 219 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:30.440 man looks like the Doberman, you know, with the the ears straight up 220 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:34.440 and you know, it looks just like a huge Doberman pincer. It would 221 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:41.039 never come out of the bush and step foot onto their property, like the 222 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:47.359 mode long part of the property. But she would see this thing or things, 223 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.720 because I think there was more than one, but they seem to be 224 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:55.640 drawn to her and her parents' property for some reason. And getting into the 225 00:19:55.680 --> 00:20:00.519 paranormal part of it, she would say that she'd be on the porch or 226 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:06.680 their their back patio and she would hear in her her ear the breathing of 227 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:11.559 this of a dog and she'd look and there's nothing there. So that we 228 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:17.839 go back into the you know, the cloaking part of things, and like 229 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:21.359 like what's you know, what's that all about? Why why will they allow 230 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:26.000 her to see them just pass the property line? But they'll come, you 231 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:30.759 know, in their quote unquote cloak form and breathe ready in her ear. 232 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:36.359 But they're not doing any harm to her like she's and I don't even think 233 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:40.079 that she's afraid of these things because she's been having experiences for so long. 234 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:47.519 But yeah, it's interesting to know that there are different looking dog men out 235 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:52.160 there as well. You know, you have the the doberman look, the 236 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:56.920 hyena, like I mentioned before, I've also heard the ones that look like 237 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:03.319 uh, timberwolves and that may be where the lore you know, from Eastern 238 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:12.640 Europe, where the werewolf fable or superstitions came in. Now, I couldn't 239 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:17.519 agree more. I think that's where they did come from as well. I 240 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:18.720 mean, if you think about it, back then, they didn't have a 241 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:26.079 very impressive understanding exactly of how the world worked around them. So if they're 242 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:29.960 in the forest and they see a dog man, they see it's walking by 243 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.960 peal ly Well, dark arts black magic was a big thing back then, 244 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:38.119 so I guess it's a pretty expected thing for them to think, Okay, 245 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:44.279 well here's a person obviously in front of me who via the dark arts, 246 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:48.519 they transformed themselves from the state of a human into that of a beast. 247 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.039 So yeah, I'll bet you're right. I bet you that's worth these where 248 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:59.759 wolf legends came from. Yeah perhaps what like so, like I said, 249 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:04.279 and listen to your show, unfortunately, but what are your thoughts, like 250 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:08.359 just on like, what do you think that they are? Do you think 251 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:14.000 they're physical or do you think they're more paranormal or well, if you do 252 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:15.839 what I do for any period of time, it's only natural that you're going 253 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:19.759 to bounce back and forth from at one moment being convinced that they have to 254 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:25.400 be ethereal beings from the ether, and then the next moment after you talk 255 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:30.599 with so many credible eyewitnesses who report seeing offspring that are two feet tall walking 256 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:36.519 next to a larger one, or seeing one drinking stagnant water out of a 257 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:40.319 moss covered pond in the middle of the night, or eating fetid roadkill. 258 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:45.279 Well, that points towards them being flesh and blood creatures, because why wouldn't 259 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.920 ethereal being need to do that, and why wouldn't ethereal being have offspring? 260 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:53.720 So it's only natural that you bounce back and forth. I can't really tell 261 00:22:53.799 --> 00:23:00.920 you what I think they definitely are because I don't hell I changed my opinion 262 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.799 on that so often. The one, the one thing that really sealed it 263 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:11.200 for me is leaning more towards the paranormal is if you ever read the book 264 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.559 Hunt for the Skinwalker by George Knapp, and I can't I can't remember the 265 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:18.039 other gentleman's name, but it was one of the scientists out there on the 266 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:23.400 Skinwalker Ranch in Utah, And there's a park in the book where these two 267 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:27.680 scientists are up on one of the ridges at night and they've got all their 268 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:32.680 equipment set up, and you know, they're watching the sky looking for UFOs 269 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:38.440 and other strange phenomena, and across this small valley from them, but still 270 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:42.480 up on the on the ridge, they reported that it looked like a tear 271 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.519 opening up in the in the sky or in the air, like a blue 272 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:55.319 tear, and this wolfman type creature crawls out of it. The tear seals 273 00:23:55.319 --> 00:24:00.599 itself up and disappears, and this wolflike you know, wolfman creature runs up 274 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:04.920 up the hill the escarpment, and you know that these two guys look at 275 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.319 each other like, I think it's time to go, Like we should really 276 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:11.519 get to get the heck out of here. And I think, you know, 277 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.839 I think that when I read that, I was like, yeah, 278 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:21.000 that for me, for the dog man portion of it, I think that 279 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:25.119 that sealed the deal. Because those guys, you know, especially for scientists, 280 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.559 they ridicule each other all the time. And you always heard like, 281 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:37.160 you know, bigfoot researchers, you know, approaching universities and biological labs and 282 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.359 DNA labs, and you know, they kind of get run out the door, 283 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:48.319 whether they believe it or not, you know, because that reputation can 284 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:51.319 haunt them, Like if they say, oh, yeah, I've you know, 285 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:59.079 firmly believe in in this creature. But yeah, when I saw that 286 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:02.880 and they were they were willing report on it, is like, yeah, 287 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:07.519 I think, I think that's really sealed it for me, especially from the 288 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.880 Skinwalker ranch. It's not like it's bad enough when you consider how big they 289 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.359 are, how fast they are, how frightening they look in a lot of 290 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:21.799 cases, but that on top of the fact that apparently at least some of 291 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:26.680 these guys can cloak and some of these guys can do things that are taking 292 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:32.480 this whole fright thing above that. Even so, it's just like adding insult 293 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:36.880 to injury. It really is speaking of fright there though, Dan, that 294 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:41.599 brings a really good question to mine for you. When you do what the 295 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:47.920 two of us do, I think it's almost inevitable that you have this encounter 296 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.680 over here that an eyewitness shares with you that sticks with you. I don't 297 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.920 have dog Me and nightmares. People ask that, and I think they wonder 298 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.680 that all the time. When you consider the volume of dog Man witnesses I 299 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.319 speak with about their encounters, Well, VIC must have dog Me and related 300 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.880 nightmares because he speaks with so many people about dog men as dog men dog 301 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.400 me and dog men. Well, I don't. I don't have dogmen related 302 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:18.000 nightmares. But from time to time I will speak with this eyewitness or that 303 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:23.640 eyewitness who shares an encounter or encounters with me that it's a case where their 304 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:29.079 encounter or their encounters stick with me. And I'm doing whatever, I might 305 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:33.519 be prepping a show or doing this or whatever, walking in the woods, 306 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:36.720 and I think back to what they told me about what they had been through, 307 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:40.079 and I'm thinking, oh, man, that's just horrible, and it 308 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:45.759 just kind of it almost gets me down. Do you have any encounters that 309 00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.640 come to mind that have affected you that way? You were affected so strongly 310 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:56.039 when the eyewitness shared that encounter or their encounters with you, that their story 311 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.519 stuck with you, and it was almost depressing to think about because you felt 312 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.759 so bad for them and what they unfortunately were made to beer and go through. 313 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:12.480 I don't really, you know, feel bad myself per se. I 314 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:18.200 mean for me, it's more like, oh, I want to go to 315 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.559 this location where they had this experience because I want to experience it myself. 316 00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:29.440 I just chalk it up like, if they're believers and they can calm themselves 317 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:33.160 down enough, you know, after their account encounters to kind of accept that 318 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:37.960 there are things that go bump in the night and things that we can't explain, 319 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:42.640 then that's good, you know, because that kind of kind of grounds 320 00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:48.720 them a little bit. But no, I mean, like if someone local 321 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.079 said, oh, I saw what I thought was a bigfoot or a dog 322 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.680 man or something else, the first thing out of my mouth is, well, 323 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.160 kind of come out there and investigate, and you know, if they're 324 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:04.279 still worked up and frightened, I'll try my best to, you know, 325 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:08.319 to alleviate some of their fears and say, oh, you know, you'll 326 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:12.240 be fine and and don't worry about it. It's it's just it is what 327 00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:17.960 it is. But no, I don't really, I don't. I don't 328 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.640 get bummed out about it. I kind of get excited about it. So 329 00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.680 well, that's good. I'm glad it's all positive. Yeah, that's a 330 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:30.640 good thing. But there is uh this is a sasquatch related story, and 331 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:33.839 I don't know if you if you want to hear about it, but I 332 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:38.599 do have one where I've one that I've thought about quite a lot, just 333 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:44.279 because of what this poor guy went through if you want to hear about it, 334 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.759 well, we try to focus on dog men around here, but why 335 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:56.839 not. Why not? So we have a huge cottage country about a couple 336 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:02.720 hours two to three hours north of Toronto. We have an area called Georgian 337 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:07.279 Bay, a town called Perry Sound, there's the Muskocas. I'm sure a 338 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:11.279 lot of the listeners have probably heard about these areas. And me and one 339 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:18.720 of the other Ontario sasquatch researchers got called by this gentleman I'll call him Jeff 340 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:25.319 for the sake of the story. Here and his father, who lives in 341 00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.480 England, has a cottage. It's on the mainland, but the only way 342 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.200 you can get there is by boat because there's no roads going around this part 343 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.359 of the mainland. It's a beautiful little cottage. They only use it like 344 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.480 maybe once a year. Like Dad will fly over from England and spend a 345 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:47.440 week or two and then he's gone. But during COVID, this guy, 346 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.920 Jeff and his wife were looking for a place to hang out where you know, 347 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.799 they didn't have to interact with a lot of people, didn't have to 348 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.960 worry about, you know, social distancing. And masking and all that other 349 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:04.039 nonsense. And so they went to the cottage full time, and they were 350 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:11.119 there for months and months and months, and they started having crazy things happen 351 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:18.920 at this cottage. And the one thing that really was really profound is it's 352 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.200 the cottage is on like an inlet and like surrounded by like two bays, 353 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:27.519 and the land kind of jots out into the lake. And he would fish 354 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:32.759 every day in a certain inlet, in a certain bay. Sorry, and 355 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:38.000 a tree came down, like he's looking up, maybe a thirty forty foot 356 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.519 high cliff on the one side, and a healthy tree got pushed down just 357 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:47.039 out of the blue, beautiful sunny day. There's no wind, there's no 358 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:52.200 storm, nothing, And he was kind of like, and he's a believer, 359 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.160 like he's never he's never had any interactions, but he does believe that 360 00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:02.880 there's something out there Sasquatch related. And I'm sure you've heard of the infrasound 361 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:10.839 that they say the sasquatchin control. And this guy was in his boat fishing, 362 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:12.720 having a great time, and this tree came down, and then a 363 00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:22.480 few minutes later he just was overcome with this terror. Like this guy, 364 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.000 he's a bit of a tough guy. He backpacks through Mexico. He sleeps 365 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.400 in the jungle with jaguars and scorpions, all sorts of things. Like he's 366 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:37.079 not a wous And he was so overcome with terror, like just washed over 367 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:44.279 him that he peeled all the skin off the palm of his hand trying to 368 00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:48.920 get the boat started. Like he literally ripped like a layer to her skin 369 00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.960 off his hand. He was like bleeding like crazy and trying to get this 370 00:31:53.400 --> 00:32:00.400 boat started so he could get back to the cottage. And that was That's 371 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:06.359 probably one of the one of the worst things I've heard, like ormost profound, 372 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.519 like where someone has been injured from an encounter, like he didn't see 373 00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:15.599 the creature, but even he knew what the infrasound was because I guess he'd 374 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:21.680 done some research. And yeah, I can booting around in the bay and 375 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:29.400 the boat and like like for gone all like water safety beach, the beach, 376 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:32.640 the boat and jumped out and ran up the hill to the cottage. 377 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:39.240 And yeah, and they had tons of incidents from there on in so much 378 00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:45.799 that this other researcher and I had to go up there and spend some time 379 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:52.680 and do some investigations and alleviate their fears a little bit. When you're motivated, 380 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.960 it's hard to say what you wouldn't do. So yeah, I believe 381 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.720 that guy did do a number on his palm like that. Yeah it was. 382 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:05.319 Yeah, it was like you said, you said, Dan, you 383 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:07.200 know, I'm a fairly tough person. You know, things don't scare me. 384 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:15.920 But he just was overwhelmed with this debilitating terror and couldn't get out of 385 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:21.079 there quick enough. Yeah. I don't know what it is about the vibrations 386 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.400 and the ultrasound or I guess the infrasound, but somehow they can, at 387 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:28.799 least apparently, it seems like they can affect you that way where they can 388 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:32.480 just overwhelm you with fear. Have you ever heard of dog man doing that 389 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:37.640 as well? Because I've only ever heard of sasquatch they quit being able to 390 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:43.279 do that. I've definitely heard of people being in their presence feeling this overwhelming 391 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.920 sense of fear without even realizing that it was a dog man that was there. 392 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:49.519 They were in the forest and all of a sudden they just felt this 393 00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:54.720 overwhelming sense of fear, and then later on after the fact they realized that 394 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.519 there was a dog men there. I don't know if that was caused by 395 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:04.759 infrasound or something else, but people definitely on a pretty regular basis report that. 396 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.199 So yeah, there must be something to that. Yeah, and it 397 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:12.239 is a real, real thing, Like I know, certain animals can do 398 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:16.679 it. Giraffes can do it, tigers and I think elephants, wolves, 399 00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:24.280 So why not? Why not other animals? Even encryptis right? That's true. 400 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.880 Seems like the largest example from a certain animal species. They normally tend 401 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.119 to have that ability. It would appear not always, but in a lot 402 00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.639 of cases that seems to be how it is. I'm wondering to kind of 403 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:44.079 set this next question up. I need to ask you another question, and 404 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.840 that question, Dan, is when it comes to the boreal forest, the 405 00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:55.440 Great Boreal Forest in Canada, does that would run? That's what I'm wondering 406 00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:00.480 about. At one point in time in the States. What's the name of 407 00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:06.800 that forest that is in Texas? Most of it's considered to be in Texas 408 00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.159 now, they used to run all the way up north to the Canada, 409 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:14.880 the Canadian border. I forgot the name of that forest. But there's a 410 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:20.480 forest in the United States where a lot of sasquatch researchers go in Texas, 411 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:25.320 especially looking for sasquatching counters well with the Great Boreal Forest. I wasn't sure 412 00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:30.519 if that's the same way where the Boreal forest is considered to run coast to 413 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:35.679 coast, east to west coast, all the way across the breadth of Canada. 414 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.079 But I know it's broken up now. Of course, over the years, 415 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:42.599 it's been cut into and broken up. But I wasn't sure phil is 416 00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.880 considered to be one forest still or if it's considered to be broken up. 417 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:51.079 I don't know. Might have to do a Google search on that. But 418 00:35:52.760 --> 00:36:00.159 I mean, I guess if these things are connected, and I'm sure they 419 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:08.519 use travel travel ways, just like I guess migrating animals to right, they 420 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:14.119 take the path of least resistance, or they try to, and they would 421 00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:20.760 try to avoid humans and built up areas, I would imagine, but I 422 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.360 guess from time to time they they get hungry, or they get curious or 423 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:29.840 lost, who knows, and they end up branching out and ending up in 424 00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:35.840 areas that they're not supposed to be. But I don't know. That's that's 425 00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:40.840 uh, that's something to think about as well. Ah the big Thicket. 426 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.400 That's what I was thinking of, the big thicket, The Big Thicket. 427 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.840 That's right, Teresa address in the live chat. I just looked over and 428 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:53.159 I saw that she she named it for me. My point of time, 429 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:58.800 Dan, that actually ran from Mexico all the way up to the northern border. 430 00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:04.000 But as progress quote unquote progress has come into the picture, it's been 431 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.239 broken up and there are still parts of it all the way up to the 432 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.079 border. But yeah, it's not continuous the way it used to be. 433 00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:15.840 That's basically what I was wondering about. If the boreal forest in certain areas 434 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:21.320 did run still from the east coast of Canada to the west coast, and 435 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.639 if it did, I was going to ask the question if, since it 436 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.920 would still be considered to be one forest, I was going to ask you 437 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.760 if there was a particular part of the boreal forest, the Great Boreal Forest, 438 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.920 that is that seems to be the hottest spot for dog meeting encounters. 439 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:45.719 H I did have a lady from New Brunswick, which is the east coast 440 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:52.000 of Canada. She was having sightings of dog man like almost every day, 441 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:58.800 like they were coming up to her her windows. She was getting pictures of 442 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.239 them, and uh and you know, of course you know, and you 443 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:07.440 know hopefully you're the people that listen to your show are open minded, but 444 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:13.119 h and will accept my my explanation as to why pictures come out blurry. 445 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:21.920 It's because of that vibrational rate that they can control as well and that infra 446 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.119 sound. You know, people say, als, why why do pictures always 447 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.559 always blurry when it comes to sasquatch or dog man, you know, And 448 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:37.960 I think it's that vibrational rate they can can control their how they appear. 449 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:46.119 And me see if I can find uh as we're chatting here and find her 450 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:53.639 story, because she was having so many encounters like pictures taking taken every day 451 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:59.880 and she doesn't and she has accepted them, and she doesn't want anybody to 452 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.840 them, you know, to her property and do anything, you know, 453 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:09.679 untowards towards the cryptis that she has there. But you know, and she 454 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.719 even talks about, yeah, you know, they're blurry, but but if 455 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.360 you, if you have a good eye, you can see the outlines of 456 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:21.039 them, and some of them come right up to her her window, like 457 00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:25.079 enough to just pruss their palms on it. So but that might be part 458 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:34.000 of that forest that line across the continent, I think a lot of times 459 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:38.159 too. And this is another rabbit hole that you could go down, is 460 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:44.199 the tunnel systems or the caves and the cave systems that we have, especially 461 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.960 in the US, like in the Appalachians and in the Rocky Mountains and the 462 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:55.639 Ozarks, like because you look at like if you listen to uh missing for 463 00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:05.159 one, David Plaidi's he's got this map of the national forests and missing people, 464 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:10.920 and then you overlap them or overlay them with the cave systems that have 465 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.519 been discovered that we actually know about. And who knows that these things aren't 466 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:24.199 traveling underground either and maybe picking people off as they go. Yeah, that's 467 00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:30.239 a pretty disconcerting thought as far as Canada goes, though, I thought you 468 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.719 didn't only have much at all in the way of caves. I know there's 469 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:39.920 a very large portion of Canada that people just basically have never developed because the 470 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:45.199 soil level there is so thin. I forgot the name of that rock that's 471 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.920 right under the surface, that rock layer, but it's literally just right there, 472 00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.239 just barely under the surface. So there's no way to farm that particular 473 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.960 area and If that's the case, it's just a solid chunk of rock that 474 00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:01.119 goes all the way down into the several as of the Earth, precluding the 475 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:06.599 chance of a cave system. That's not to say that maybe out west there 476 00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.960 aren't areas where they actually do farm that have an extensive cave system or something 477 00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.920 like that. But I thought that was the cave in most of Canada, 478 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:21.679 is it, Well, you're thinking about in Ontario where it's called the Canadian 479 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:25.320 Shield, where it's all it's all rock. Yeah, And like you said 480 00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:35.320 that the soil is very thin. It's usually up north there's a craters from 481 00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:42.039 meteorites up there, and that's where when the astronauts that were first going to 482 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.440 the Moon, when when they you know, were driving around the little dune 483 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:53.079 Buckie on the Moon, they did their training in northern Ontario because these rocks 484 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:59.199 were the closest thing that they had to the surface of the Moon. So, 485 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:06.760 but I have been told by people in the know that there are tunnel 486 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:12.639 systems under some of our parks as well. We have a huge national or 487 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:19.360 provincial park in Ontario called Algonquin Park and it's massive and apparently there's tons of 488 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:29.119 tunnels underneath there, and I'm sure there are people that know about them, 489 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:34.639 maybe you know, in the government or geologists or whoever. But I think 490 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.760 I think that they go on for miles and miles too, so and we 491 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:44.320 get a lot of big foot sightings from Algonquin Park as well. Key systems 492 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:46.920 like that would be a great way for cryptids to move around. So that's 493 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.480 right, And gentlemen in the chat there the truth he says they did their 494 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:57.480 filming there as well. I think he's alluding to them hoaxing the moon landing 495 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:05.079 another rabbit hole to go down. Oh yeah, some of your rabbit holes 496 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.880 out there. You can almost take your pick. But you know what, 497 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.400 that's good for guys like you and I who are right into the paranormal. 498 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:15.280 So I mean, you could pick a different topic every night, so you 499 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:20.159 could, Yeah, you definitely could something I'm a little foggy on still a 500 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.039 dan. Do you do what you do to try and improve their existence existence 501 00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:28.559 of dog men? Or do you just do this to try and for personal 502 00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:31.480 discovery and to try and find out as much about these guys as you can 503 00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:37.039 for personal reasons. I don't think that I ever want to be that guy 504 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:43.159 who comes up with the definitive proof that these things exist, because you would 505 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.199 probably get a lot of people knocking your knocking on your door that you don't 506 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:51.199 want, you know, men in black type, three letter agency type people. 507 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:55.800 But yeah, I mean, I'm just I've always been fascinated with paranormal, 508 00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:59.519 you know, like I said, and more of a more of a 509 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:05.079 ghost guy, non human entity guy. I don't get. I don't get 510 00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:09.199 out as much as I used to into the bush for sasquatch related stuff. 511 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:14.320 But yeah, I just I would just you know, that's that's the dream. 512 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.400 I just want to see one. I know they're right there. Like 513 00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:21.599 I said, I've had encounters with them with with the tree knockings and the 514 00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:25.920 rock throwing and other stuff, and I don't. I just I just want 515 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.840 to see one. And if I do, great, and if I don't, 516 00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:34.960 well that's life. And I like, I don't. I don't know 517 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.599 if I want to see a dog man though, because I think I think 518 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:43.880 with sasquatch you can kind of reason with them a little bit more a dog 519 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.880 man, you know, It's it's like, uh, you know, monkeys, 520 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:51.719 are you know a monkey? You could you could say, okay, 521 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.920 you know, back up, and uh, you know, throw them bin 522 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.280 in and throw them a treat something. But uh, you know, rabbit 523 00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:02.880 dogs or wolves. You know you're not gonna sit there and rub their belly 524 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:10.320 and and wait until until you know you're good to go. No, you're 525 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.599 not. There's no future in trying to do that. Pull back and a 526 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.800 stump if you do. Yeah, don't don't rub their bellies. That would 527 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:21.760 be bad. You might make a friend. You might make a friend that 528 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:24.880 you don't want. So yeah, can you imagine that that wouldn't be good? 529 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:32.199 And running in hurts from mister Baker here, I've never heard of people 530 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.800 seeing more than one dog man. I've heard of people seeing troops of our 531 00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:43.400 families of a sasquatch, you know, you'll have the mom and dad and 532 00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:49.559 and juveniles. But I don't think I've ever heard of someone seeing more than 533 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.920 one dog man. Like like you said, maybe they might have a young 534 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:59.280 one with them, but I don't know. That's interesting, But so far 535 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.840 I haven't. I think you might have I don't know from another listener or 536 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.199 another guest. Oh yeah, plenty of times it's been reported to me where 537 00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:13.079 people have seen several of them together. But yeah, in cases like that. 538 00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.639 I definitely think that that's the exception and not the norm, not the 539 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:21.280 rule, because when you think about their daily clerk requirements, it would be 540 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.880 foolish for them to hang out in numbers for any appreciable amount of time because 541 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:30.039 they would blow through the resources in any area almost overnight. So it just 542 00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:35.079 wouldn't make sense. And also too, animals like wolves pack hunters like wolves, 543 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:39.320 for example, coyotes and a lot of cases, they hunt in groups 544 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:45.079 because in order to dispatch their prey, numbers of them are required to do 545 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.400 so. But with dog men, I mean they're going to be able to 546 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.360 take down anything that they want that they come across that they have a mind 547 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:57.159 to predate on, so there's no requirement to operate in numbers. So yeah, 548 00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.119 that's why I think it happens where they do come together in numbers from 549 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.639 time to time. But yeah, I think that's the exception instead of the 550 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:09.159 rule. But I've got another question for you from Andres Carazales. And Andres 551 00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:17.280 wants to know we're any encounters and a metal door. I know what he's 552 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:24.199 talking about. So a lot of people, Uh, David Plaidi's with the 553 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.480 missing for one talks about this where people will hear this, like a clanking 554 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:35.079 or this or this the sound of a sliding metal door when they're out hiking 555 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:39.559 in these national parks, and then people will disappear and they're they're you know, 556 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:45.639 no one has ever said, well, here's the reason why. But 557 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.880 it's almost like, you know, if you get into the you know, 558 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:54.880 the rabbit hole of tunnels underneath the national parks, then people upset. Yeah, 559 00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.679 we hear this, it's like a sliding metal door or a hatch or 560 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.440 something, and then boom, Grandpa's gone or you know, or this guy 561 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:08.039 that I was fishing with is gone, And yeah, I haven't heard any 562 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:14.039 like with my limited stories from people, I haven't heard anything of the metallic 563 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:19.840 sounds around dog men or sasquash up here in Canada. But in the States, 564 00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:24.559 in your national parks, I've heard that quite a bit. When here 565 00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:29.960 cases like that, that really does point soundly towards the idea that these guys 566 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.000 are sent up to the surface by humans or some other party. Don't know 567 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.039 what that would be except for maybe ets, but it does really make you 568 00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:43.039 think there's got to be something to that. This whole the allegations about how 569 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:47.320 our government is basically breeding these guys or whatnot. So it really does make 570 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.800 you wonder. The next question for you is from Scott Baker, and Scott 571 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.159 wants to know I heard of albino bigfoot, but what about albino dog men? 572 00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.320 Have you heard of any? No, Like I said, I've heard 573 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:05.079 about the ones that look like timberwolves. I've heard about the ones that look 574 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:09.599 like Doberman pincers and the hyena, but I've never heard of melvino one. 575 00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:15.679 That would be interesting. That's another one of those things where, if you 576 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:19.800 think about it, if you make your living hunting game, hunting prey, 577 00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.199 if you're white like that, that really complicates things. But these guys are 578 00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:29.320 so fast and so sneaky and so powerful, and they're implements of destruction their 579 00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.920 teeth, their claws and everything involved. They're so formidable. I guess they 580 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.840 can still overcome a disadvantage like that. If they do have the ability to 581 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.000 somehow magically cloak, that just takes that right off the table as being a 582 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.280 handicap, So I guess get around that. I wonder if they can cloak 583 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:52.840 all the time, though I think they're kind of limited to how long that 584 00:49:52.840 --> 00:50:00.079 they could cloak themselves. I mean even people. I'm sure that this is 585 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:06.039 a dog man thing as well, not just sasquatch. Like when I spoke 586 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:12.000 about the the two scientists that saw the one come out of that tear, 587 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.000 you know, in in the air. So that's almost like an interdimensional thing. 588 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:24.480 But like you know, I've heard reports, uh from what's you know, 589 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.280 what's the mountain and uh if it was Washington State or the volcano that 590 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:36.719 blew years and years ago Saint Helens mount and people have said that they found 591 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:45.079 like the corpses of burnt sasquatch on this on this mountain. So you got 592 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:50.519 to think, well, if maybe they can't use their their teleportation anytime they 593 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.239 want, or they're vibrational, because you think if if they saw this this 594 00:50:53.480 --> 00:51:00.840 lava coming down the mountain and these fires, then they could just use their 595 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:07.639 abilities, their paranormal abilities to get away. But I don't know, it's 596 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.119 a I don't I don't know if I ever know, but it certainly makes 597 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:16.360 for you know, great podcasts and an interesting you know, an interesting planet 598 00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:21.440 that we live on. That's a really good point I'd never thought of before. 599 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:27.360 Yeah, there were several reported cases of sasquatch being killed in that explosion 600 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.800 of Mount Saint Helens And that's that's right. Yeah, And like I mean, 601 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:36.840 I've seen evidence of uh, you know, following footprints in the snow 602 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:38.960 or in the sand, like on a beach, and they just disappear, 603 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:44.800 and it's you know, you're in the middle of a field and there's nothing, 604 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.519 there's no trees nearby to jump into, Like you know, did a 605 00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:51.880 UFO pick them up, did a helicopter come down, or did they just 606 00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.159 reach a certain point where there might be a portal and travel through it? 607 00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.000 Like maybe like do they does there have to be something they for them to 608 00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.920 be able to travel through it, or can they create a portal on their 609 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:08.199 own, like maybe you know, with Mount Saint Helen's there there wasn't anything 610 00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:15.760 nearby for them to escape to and they were killed by the fire and the 611 00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:22.119 lava. That's a really good point. Yeah, it really does make you 612 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:24.480 wonder. And like I said, that's something I'd never really thought about before 613 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:29.679 some landing brought that up. I mean, there are credible reports of these 614 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:34.599 guys of sasquatch being hit and killed by cars and trucks. So if that's 615 00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.960 the case, how did that happen if they have this ability to just wink 616 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:42.840 in and out of existence here, So good point. And the one thing, 617 00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:47.480 I think dog Man is more paranormal than Sasquatch because of what you just 618 00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:52.159 said, like heard of one's being killed, you know, by a military 619 00:52:53.119 --> 00:53:00.360 or hunters. And but I've heard heard a lot of reports where you know, 620 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.679 people have shot at dog Man and the bullets pass right through it or 621 00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.920 it doesn't seem to be affected at all. Whereas the Sasquatch, you know, 622 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:13.079 you know, you'll see the blood or the fur puff puff up, 623 00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:17.440 and and they'll run like they're sometimes you know, you've heard that they're afraid 624 00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:22.360 of the guns, like they recognize them as weapons. But the dog Man, 625 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.480 it almost seems to be like gay. I'm not worried at all, 626 00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.280 Like earlier when I was talking about like the State troopers that have been you 627 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:34.920 know, reported to a shot at one and then they go home and the 628 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:38.400 next night is staying outside their living room window. Well, most most State 629 00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:43.559 troopers that I've ever spoken to, which very few, but I imagine they 630 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:49.320 have firearms at home, and you know, and quite readily, and you 631 00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.000 know, if this thing doesn't doesn't fear it, or or if it doesn't 632 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:58.280 recognize that it's something they could kill it, then then that makes it I 633 00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.360 don't know, a little bit, a little bit more paranormal or a little 634 00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:07.280 tougher. So another thing to think about. That definitely does make it awfully 635 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:13.880 difficult and hard to explain talking about this whole false sense of security that guns 636 00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:15.880 give a lot of people when they head into the woods and when they think 637 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:21.599 about dog men. There was a guest, a popular guest, who came 638 00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:27.639 on about let's see thinking about the episode number must have been about four years 639 00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:31.960 ago, I think four to five years ago, who after the show aired 640 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:35.880 and I checked back in with him. It was probably about a year or 641 00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:39.280 so after that episode aired and we had consequently spoken for the last time. 642 00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:44.239 He told me about this plan. He had to head into the forest near 643 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.320 his home where he knew these guys were. That's where he'd had his encounter. 644 00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:51.400 He told me about this plan. He had to go into those woods 645 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.119 and actually bag one bag a dog man to once and for all officially prove 646 00:54:55.199 --> 00:55:00.840 the existence. Well, he was so confident in the ability of that gun. 647 00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:02.960 I think it was a ten millimeter something like that. That. I 648 00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:06.920 just shook my head and tried to tell them, Look, now, there 649 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:12.840 are people who have shot these guys with much more formiderable, formidable weaponry than 650 00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.519 that a ten millimeter. A ten millimeter is nothing to sneeze at at all, 651 00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:21.599 But I mean people have used rifles, powerful rifles, potent rifles to 652 00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:24.519 shoot these guys without any effect. For the most part. You're going to 653 00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:29.639 go into the woods and be confident in that ten milimeter to protect yourself and 654 00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:34.400 then just basically working through things to make sure he knew exactly what he was 655 00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.079 up for. If he tried to do that, it became evident he didn't 656 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:42.480 realize that these guys will take to the tree sometimes. And when I told 657 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:44.840 him about that, I said, okay, well, how are you going 658 00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:49.679 to protect yourself if you know you've got one up in a tree above you, 659 00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.639 and you're looking around like you're just telling me how you're going to keep 660 00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.880 an eye out, You're going to keep your head on a swivel. Well, 661 00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:59.440 they go up into trees also, you know, how are you going 662 00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:02.719 to make sure that one doesn't get behind you up in the trees and jump 663 00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:07.760 down behind you and dispatch you. Well, that just absolutely freaked him out. 664 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.800 So yeah, I need to land this plane now. Basically, what 665 00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:15.800 I'm saying is time after time to touch on what you said about guns. 666 00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:21.519 People just really overestimate their ability to protect themselves in the woods with these guys 667 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.679 sasquatch in dog men because they think, Okay, I've got a gun, 668 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:29.119 so I'm safe. I'm automatically safe. And all I can do is just 669 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.880 try to talk them out of that mindset, and if they don't want to 670 00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:37.199 listen, just basically shake my head because they're not safe. They're not. 671 00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:42.440 No, I don't I think you'd have to have twelve other guys with the 672 00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.119 same kind of weaponry with you. You know, you're you're just not going 673 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:47.719 to do it one on one, I don't think, unless you get lucky 674 00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:53.519 or yeah, who knows, Like you hear about people shooting them and killing 675 00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:58.079 them, but well, where's you know, where's the picture of the body, 676 00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:02.119 because everybody's going to cell phone, you know, so they've been taken 677 00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:07.599 out occasionally, but yeah, not very often at all, would appear now 678 00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:15.039 it's like I've got a Oh another question for you from Andre's Carazalez and Andres 679 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:19.440 wants to know did you notice a cluster of sidings in Canada where caves are 680 00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:23.480 large bodies of water are large bodies of water, yes, but not not 681 00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:28.679 caves. There's an area not far from where I am, maybe about an 682 00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.079 hour and twenty minutes north of your a town called Owen Sound. I think 683 00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:38.840 one of your other listeners, a lady had mentioned that, Judith. Yes, 684 00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:43.400 she says, have you heard about the area around Owen Sound being a 685 00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:49.639 dog man area? And yes, And Owen Sound a really nice town. 686 00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:55.719 It's right on like Huron. And there's a place called Bogner Swamp which is 687 00:57:55.840 --> 00:58:00.320 just just south of this town of Owen Sound, and we get a lot 688 00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:05.559 of dog man sightings there. We get a lot of UFO sightings, sasquatch 689 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:10.239 sightings, and there's a lot of weird, weird stuff that happens around there. 690 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:19.599 We've had reports of basketball sized orbs chasing people's vehicles down some of the 691 00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:25.239 side roads. It's just a weird just a weird area you know where you 692 00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:29.920 you know, you drive in, you just get that weird vibe. But 693 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:35.159 yeah, bodies of water, yes, But I'm gonna have to look more 694 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:39.480 into the cave system thing. Well, like you said, the cave system 695 00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:44.320 would be a perfect way for them to travel undetected, so it only makes 696 00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:49.840 sense they would use them, absolutely definitely. This next one up is from 697 00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.920 Onyx Moon Home and Halls and their question is are there a lot of missing 698 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:58.639 persons in Canada and if so, do you think dog men slash bigfoot have 699 00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:07.599 anything to do with them? As for missing persons? And this is probably 700 00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:10.599 probably the same in the US as well. We get a lot of missing 701 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:17.559 people around we call them First Nations, but you know the you know, 702 00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:25.280 the common term is Indian Reservations thunder Bay, Ontario, which is way up 703 00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:30.320 north. It's like a seventeen hour drive from here or more. Get a 704 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:35.360 lot of missing people. They call it the Highway of Tears. Out in 705 00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:38.599 British Columbia they get a lot of reports of missing people as well, and 706 00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:45.000 a lot of them are around the First Nations or Indian Reservations. I don't 707 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.199 think that has entity with dogment a big foot. I think that's like a 708 00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:55.599 human trafficking problem that's unfortunately worldwide, and in remote areas. You know, 709 00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:00.079 it's a lot easier to pluck people all off the side of the road, 710 01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:04.559 hitchhiking or from you know, trucks, truck stops, things like that. 711 01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:07.559 So I don't think I don't think that's paranormal. I think that's just terrible 712 01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:12.719 human beings. Yeah, it's a much bigger problem than most people realize. 713 01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:19.039 Definitely, it's terrible. It is when we find when we find out where 714 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:23.840 these tunnels are, we should should throw these pedophiles and human traffickers down there. 715 01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:29.199 Yeah, if you get out, you're free to go. If not 716 01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:37.000 that that'd be a good start. Bigfoot's chewing on your skull, no doubt. 717 01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:42.119 Looks like I have another one for you from Ganny Mead, and their 718 01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:47.320 question is are the regions in Canada where Canadians are afraid of traveling? I 719 01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:52.039 don't think so, not that I've heard. I'm sure, Just like you 720 01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:55.639 know, there's people that walk the Appalachian Trail, which I think starts in 721 01:00:55.719 --> 01:01:00.599 Georgia and goes all the way up to the Canadian border, where people have 722 01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.159 gone missing. But you know that's that's something you know, you just have 723 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:08.880 to be smart, have a tracking system, you know, And Canada we 724 01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:12.840 don't. I mean we have guns, but we don't carry them when we 725 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:19.719 go hiking or boating or camping. We'd just rather duke it out with the 726 01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:23.039 big Foot rather than shooting. But yeah, I don't think there's any any 727 01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:30.440 any locations out there that we're afraid to travel in. Oh, that's good, 728 01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:34.760 that's a really good thing. But having said that, Canada is huge, 729 01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:39.880 like the second biggest country in the world, and I think eighty percent 730 01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:46.360 of all Canadians live like within one hundred miles of the US border, which 731 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:52.719 is crazy because like when you look at a map of Ontario, like from 732 01:01:52.960 --> 01:02:00.920 you know, just above Toronto and up, it's just one huge forest, 733 01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:06.280 like a massive forest, you know, and like twice the size of Texas, 734 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:08.880 but has like a core of the population. Like there's more people that 735 01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:13.679 live in California than all of Canada. We're the second biggest country in the 736 01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:17.719 world and it's all it's all bush and so whoever, like there must there 737 01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:21.840 might be things out there that we haven't discovered yet in the areas we might 738 01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:27.360 have our own, you know, skinwalker ranch type areas as well that we 739 01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.840 just haven't discovered or for somebody knows about it and they're they're just keeping it 740 01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:37.280 quiet. When you're dealing with an area that big and that remote, you're 741 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:39.559 right, you have no idea what might be out there or what might not 742 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:45.599 for sure. You know, like when people talk about giants in the forest, 743 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:49.440 you know that seems far fetched, but hey, you never know, 744 01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:52.679 right, You're right, they've got the room to room out there and never 745 01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:57.960 be discovered, so you never do you know. I've got another one for 746 01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:01.239 you from Onyx Moon. Their question is are there a lot of UFO sidings 747 01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:06.800 around the areas of dog man sidings. Some people think they are related. 748 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.960 What's your opinion on it. Well, that area that I just spoke of, 749 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:15.639 the town Owen Sound, there are a lot of UFO sidings and not 750 01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:19.599 just like I'm not just talking about the ships, but they've got these huge 751 01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:23.679 basketball signed orbs, and there's a lot of Bigfoot and dog Man sidings in 752 01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:30.400 that area. And I think that alludes to the portals. I think they 753 01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:36.480 all travel through the same same portals, they just to access them differently. 754 01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:39.239 You know, a lot of I hear a lot of people say that aliens 755 01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:45.519 quote unquote, like grays and reptilians are fallen angels or demons or you know, 756 01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:50.800 demons. I don't think so. I think that they are from another 757 01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:55.280 galaxy or solar system or planet, and they've be coming here forever. And 758 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:05.719 I just think that they access I think they have the technology to access different 759 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:09.679 dimensions and different portals, and I think that's how they travel. They get 760 01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:14.880 from point A to point B. Instead of flying for you know, at 761 01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:19.960 light speed for years upon end, they just go through these wormholes or portals 762 01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:28.360 or whatever. And I think the Sasquatch and the dog man do it naturally, 763 01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:33.519 and the aliens do it through technology. If you think about it, 764 01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:38.000 we do a lot of things today that people in the olden times would see 765 01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:43.039 as being supernatural. I mean, if you traveled back in time with your 766 01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:46.639 cell phone, they burn you at the stake, they sure would. You 767 01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:50.599 wouldn't make it too far, right, You're right, just taking pictures with 768 01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:56.159 your phone wristwatch would get you killed. Yeah, that's right right. They 769 01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:59.320 think it was like you know this, you know, something related to the 770 01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.559 devil, and you'd be hanging from a tree really quick. Well, you 771 01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:06.880 know you would, you definitely would. I've got another one on deck from 772 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:12.280 Deed Truth and d wants to know how do the authorities in Canada react to 773 01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:17.639 hearing about dog mait? Now, that is a good question. Because I 774 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:27.079 have I have tried to speak to park rangers and conservation officers and police officers, 775 01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:30.880 especially in the northern parts of Ontario, you know, try and get 776 01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:38.039 them to talk about bigfoot or you know. I haven't brought up dogmn to 777 01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:43.280 them, but there are there are times where you get a funny look from 778 01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:47.760 them and they kind of change the subject real quick. This is this is 779 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:53.039 more bigfoot related. But there was a gentleman that I ran into it, 780 01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:57.840 and he was recently retired from the RCMP, which is Canada's a federal police 781 01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:01.679 service, and he's from Ontario, but he did all his policing out in 782 01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:09.519 British Columbia. And he told me that he was part of a special group 783 01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:14.280 that I think there's only eighteen or nineteen members. But he wouldn't tell me 784 01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:16.920 what they did. He wouldn't tell me the name of the group, and 785 01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:27.199 he was very very cryptic about talking about it. And I don't know if 786 01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:30.519 you remember anybody else in the chat here remembers years and years ago there was 787 01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:40.719 a rash of human feet still inside the running shoes and boots that were washing 788 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:45.840 up on the shores of British Columbia. Oh yeah, and it was just 789 01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:49.920 the feet and the shoes were like like it was like someone that had chopped 790 01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:54.960 off a person's foot with the shoe in it. But they were finding all 791 01:06:54.960 --> 01:07:00.960 these feet washing up. And I can't remember the exact location between Victoria and 792 01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:06.480 Vancouver, there's a waterway there. And I got talking to him about that 793 01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.119 and I said to him, I said, well, you know a lot 794 01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:15.480 of people think that that sasquatch related. And when I said that, this 795 01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:23.679 guy's attitude and personally change like like that, and he changed the subject so 796 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:28.719 fast and he shut down that conversation. Boom you took off. And I 797 01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:32.280 was like, hmm, like what part of like what what kind of unit 798 01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:35.480 were you in there, sir? And you know, as soon as I 799 01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:42.800 mentioned bigfoot, like he shut it down and gone. And that was kind 800 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:46.159 of that was kind of weird. So I think that there are, like 801 01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:54.079 I said, there's people in the know, and yeah, and they don't 802 01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:56.280 like to talk about it, or they or they were you know, I'm 803 01:07:56.280 --> 01:08:01.280 sure they signed huge non disclosure agreements too. Oh, they definitely don't. 804 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.760 And it sure sounds to me like you hit a soft spot with that comment. 805 01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:09.639 Oh yeah, and yeah, and I've and I've heard of sorry to 806 01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:14.480 drop. I've heard of RCMP units coming out of the bush like armed to 807 01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:18.479 the teeth, you know, and people say, oh, like, what 808 01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:21.399 are you guys doing, you know, you know, because there's a missing 809 01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:27.840 person reported, and these tactical units said, listen, we've already searched over 810 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:30.159 there. Do not go over there. You guys can search down by the 811 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.800 river, you can search here and there, but do not go up this 812 01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:40.640 valley, like under no circumstances. And even David Plais from Missing Forward and 813 01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:45.159 One has has gone through the Freedom of Information Act and asked for reports from 814 01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:50.199 the RCMP and other police services you know in North America, and they're so 815 01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:58.159 redacted. It's like it's just like one big blacked out report. And she's 816 01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.880 like, well, if they're just searching for a missing person, and then 817 01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:04.720 then why is it redacted? And why these guys aren't like they're ready for 818 01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:11.319 war. Right, that's a really good point. Yeah, there's clearly more 819 01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:14.800 to it, but they're never gonna let us know. I can understand why 820 01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:17.960 they don't want us to know. But yeah, it's just one of those 821 01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:23.039 things that really sticks in a lot of people's craw The fact that the governments 822 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:27.439 are never gonna let us know. Tell you what, Dan, We're getting 823 01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:30.000 close to time to get out of here, but before we do, do 824 01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:33.079 you have any clothes and comments you'd like to share. I wish I could 825 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:39.479 have got more to more of your your listeners here. But you know, 826 01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:43.399 if if you're if you're going to go out into the woods, you know, 827 01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:47.399 especially if you're really wanting to look for dog man or or bigfoot, 828 01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:56.279 I would say put a a go pro on your back, as you know, 829 01:09:56.520 --> 01:10:00.720 especially if you're looking for something, because I think a lot of times 830 01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:08.520 people miss the things that peek out and dart out behind them on the pathways 831 01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:13.399 and go with you know, like be smart about it. Go go with 832 01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:15.119 a friend, or if you're not going to go with somebody, let somebody 833 01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.079 to know where you're going, what time you're going to be there, what 834 01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:24.199 time you're going to come out. You know. David Plaiti's really suggests that 835 01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:30.520 you take a personal location peaking with you, but you know those are those 836 01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:33.920 are pricey and not everybody wants to pay for those things. But just be 837 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:40.119 careful out there and if you see something, let vic know, let me 838 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:45.319 know and come on the show. That'd be awesome. VIC needs more people, 839 01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:49.479 right, Well, thanks for the plug, Bud, you're the guest. 840 01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:54.880 Let's share that contact info one more time for you. If anyone's had 841 01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:59.239 a Canadian related dog man encounter, what's the best way for them to contact 842 01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:02.399 you? Again, Dan, So, I have a Facebook page called Canadian 843 01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:09.239 dog Man Encounters and there's all. There's also the Strange Happenings Investigators of the 844 01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:16.319 Paranormal Paranormal page and that's about it. Well, that makes it really easy, 845 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:20.239 and I am good at responding to people. I don't ghost people, 846 01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:25.479 and you know, so if you have if you have a question or you 847 01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:29.760 have a sighting, and some people had mentioned about some of the pictures, 848 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:35.800 I'll be more than happy to share them if anyone wishes, So let me 849 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:41.680 know. Dan. I can't thank you enough for coming on and not only 850 01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:45.720 sharing all those experiences with this from people who have contacted you, but also 851 01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:48.560 answering all these questions. I really appreciate it. Well, I appreciate you 852 01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:51.319 having me on. Like I said, I used to be a podcast host 853 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:55.800 and it's been a long time since I've done anything like this, and it 854 01:11:55.880 --> 01:12:00.079 was nice, always fun to talk to talk about the paranormal. It's never 855 01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:03.239 a the whole moment. I know what you mean. Can I do one 856 01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:10.960 shameless pluck by all means? So? I have a book written. It's 857 01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:18.039 on Amazon. Where's my Camera. It's called Strange Happenings, A Paranormal Investigator's 858 01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:21.880 Story. All you got to do is type my name in Dan Hammond and 859 01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:28.279 I'm the first thing that pops up, and it's all about all my strange 860 01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:32.960 and bizarre encounters with the paranormal. And there's some remote viewing stuff in there 861 01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:38.560 as well, if anybody is interested in that. And yeah, that's my 862 01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:42.960 shameless plug. Well, nothing wrong with that, And of course I'll make 863 01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:45.159 it easier for the listeners to find it than that. What I'll do is 864 01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:49.039 for the description for tonight show, I'll post a link to that book on 865 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:53.119 the Amazon. If you can send me that link, that'll make it really 866 01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:56.560 easy for them to find it. And also too, I'll post a link 867 01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:00.239 that they can use to come right to you and report their citing. If 868 01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:03.600 they've had any sightings or experiences in Canada, how about that? Absolutely? 869 01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:08.039 And if it you know, it's just not to be Canada. But if 870 01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:11.560 you have some some crazy things that have happened to you, you've seeing them, 871 01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.279 By all means, let me know and let think know as well. 872 01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:19.000 Well, I appreciate it, you know. If I can never help you 873 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:21.640 in the future, by all means, please do you let me know. 874 01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:26.760 Of course, not very hard to find, yep, especially down now that 875 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:31.560 we're connected and we're good to go. That's right, that's right. Well, 876 01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:34.439 thanks again so much for your time, Dan, and of course have 877 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:39.319 a great night. Very welcome and thank you to everyone in the comments. 878 01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:45.520 Thanks, we'll see. Well that does it for another show, of course. 879 01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:48.239 If you've had a dog mean encounter of your own and will like to 880 01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:50.640 talk with me about it in private, or if you'd like to be a 881 01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:56.720 guest on the show, please go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. 882 01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.399 If you've had a sasquatch sighting and we'll like to be a asked on 883 01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:05.000 my Bigfoot Sighting or Bigfoot I Witness Radio, please go to my Bigfoot Sighting 884 01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:10.760 dot com and let me know. Thanks again so much as always for listening, 885 01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:12.239 and have a great night.