At at Hey, everyone, thanks so much for joining us for this special
night Monday Night episode of dog Mean Encounters for Tonight's show. I'm bringing on
a Canadian dog mean Encounter researcher. Ever since I started daring episodes of dog
mean Encounters years ago, back in twenty fifteen, almost from the start,
people would ask me, what about Canadian dog mean encounters? Do you get
many coming in or is it a rarity? Well, I found the perfect
person to bring on Tonight's show and answer questions like that and just talk about
these encounters in Canada and general without anymore Ado. Let's bring him on here
now. Of course, Tonight's guest is Dan Hammond. Dan, thanks so
much for coming. Well, thank you so much for having me. This
is cool. Well, that's great having you in. I don't know if
I'm the perfect person, but I'll try my best. I love that trust
me. You are you are. I'll take your word for it. Dan,
Please give us a brief bio on yourself. I am a been a
paranormal investigator for seven or eight years. I'm a member of an actual paranormal
investigation team called ship Ship, which is strange happenings investigators of the Paranormal and
I'm also part of Ontario Sasquatch And for your American listeners or Internet listeners,
Ontario is a province in Canada. Tons of Sasquatch signings up here, and
we're getting more and more dog man related stuff as it comes in. I
think that, you know, and you might agree with me, you know,
wherever you are in the US. Dog man is a touchy subject even
for you know, people who believe encryptids and and sasquatch researchers, because it's
not uh and we were talking about this earlier before we started to record,
that it's a bit of a touchy subject and it's not. It's not like
a Sasquatch is a household name. You know. Like I said earlier,
if if you stop someone on the street and, you know, say what
do you think about Sasquatch or Bigfoot? They're gonna have an opinion and they're
gonna know what you're talking about. But if you say dog man, you
know, you're gonna get a you know, nine times out of ten or
more, you're going to get a funny look and people are going to go
with the heck as a dog man, you know, or they might think
it's like that a kid's book, that popular kids book called dog Man that's
out there, or you know, or they're just gonna keep on walking.
So as for losing my camera here, pardon me. Yeah, I mean
I love I love all things paranormal and all things crypted, and you know,
I have an open mind for everything, and I know these things exist
and you and I know that you know that they exist. So I started
a Facebook page called Canadian dog Man Encounters and uh, don't get too much
interaction from people, get the odd message, and I've had some really good
ones. We're for sightings and interactions and we can get into that as we
go in. Well, it goes with that saying, Dan, your neck
deep in all this cryptid stuff. I'm wondering though, how did you get
to your start? What was the catalyst that got you into this for the
cryptids or everything paranormal for the cryptid side. Well, I guess a lot
of people will always start out saying that, you know, they saw the
Patterson Kumlin film, the Sasquatch film taken in out in California, and it
probably I don't even know how old I was when it came out. It
was just a little kid, but I probably saw that and you know,
probably fascinated at the time. But I think mostly for me, it started
with more paranormal things, Like I grew up in a haunted house as a
kid. I went through a lot of crazy things, bad things when I
was a kid, and I was asked to put all that stuff behind me
until I became an adult, and I think it just it just grows from
there. Like if you're going to be interested in ghosts, then you're you're
probably going to be interested in UFOs, cryptids, everything, paranormal. Everything
is supernatural. So I can't I can't think of one specific defining moment,
but I think it's all like an umbrella type thing. Yeah, it's kind
of like an onion. You get into one aspect of it, and as
you get deeper and deeper, you find out about more and more things,
and it spreads out and there are more layers and everything, and before you
know it, you're just into so many different aspects of it. I definitely
understand, Yeah, for sure, I do. Have you had any sightings
of your own of a sasquatch or a dog man over the years? Dog
men know I haven't had any physical sightings of a Sasquatch. I've had a
lot of interactions with them. I've had you know, we've had the rocks
thrown at us. We've had the tree knocking conversations, the footstops, we've
left gift you know, we've had gifting stations up north in an area that
I go with some of the other Ontario Sasquat researchers and uh oh, and
we've had the eye shine and of course seen the little orbs of light floating
through the trees. You'll hear you hear a lot of people discuss that and
you know, relate them or in relation to big quod sightings. Uh So,
a lot of it has been on the peripheral, like like I said,
the tree knocking, the rocks being thrown. But as of yet,
I haven't had a physical sighting yet. But there's always you know, there's
always hope for the future. Well you never know just might happen, might
happen next week. It's really well, you know, I listened to quite
a few Sasquatch podcasts and you know, some of the hosts will say,
well, be careful what you wish for, because you know it could mess
up your head or or you know, you might see one and you might
never want to go back into the woods again. But I've gone, you
know, I've I've had some crazy, crazy paranormal encounters with spirits and non
entities or non human entities. So I think I'm pretty good. I'm I've
got a bit of an armor up, so I think I'm prepared to see
a sasquatch. So bring it on. Well, if an experience does happen,
we actually see one, I hope you're right about that. Well,
you'll be the first to know. How about that. I appreciate it.
You know me, I'm not going to go anywhere, and if it does
happen, I'd love to hear about it. So absolutely yeah, thanks for
keeping me in mind. Well, Dan, if you don't mind, let's
get down to the nuts and bolts of this, and we're going to have
you share some of these dogman experiences that have been shared with you. When
you're telling us about them, please be as descriptive as possible. Okay,
absolutely so. Probably the first one that I that I ever got through the
website or through the Facebook page was a gentleman out in British Columbia in an
area called the Okanagan Valley. I've never been to BC, so I can't
really say where the Okanaka Valley is. I think it's it's in the interior
part of the province. And this guy, I won't use his name,
obviously, but he messaged me and all he wanted to know was how do
I kill one of these things a dog man? And I said, well,
I said, I don't know if you can kill them. I said,
I think more often than that, you'll just piss the thing off,
and you don't want to do that. He was at home with his family,
and he and his son at different times or from different advantages. He
was he was looking at his patio doors and his son was looking at another
window, and they saw this upright man sized what he described is looked just
like a jackal. And I've heard people mentioned this before, the jackal the
look to them. And he said, this thing paced around his porch and
his property all night and he's still so he ran and got his crossbow and
knocked an arrow in it. And he said he sat up all night waiting
to shoot this thing, and he could hear it outside after it stepped off
the porch, going around his vehicles and and his his I guess his garage
or whatever, and he stayed up all night. The sun comes up,
he finally gets the uh, the courage to go outside and see if this
thing has gone or not. And footprints everywhere, and his truck, which
was a little dirty at the time, because I think he was on a
dirt road, had these huge paw prints all over the all over the truck,
and the driver's side door was open and you could actually see where this
paw had kind of slid down the truck and popped the door open. So
yeah, that really rattled this guy. And this story has gone around a
bit to other people as well. I think I was the first one that
he told, but it did get out there a little bit within the Big
Foot in the dog Man cryptid world, and I haven't I haven't heard from
him since I've tried to get a hold of him, but he's either doesn't
bother checking his messages or who knows anything could have happened. I don't think
anything happened to him dog Man related, but who knows. Maybe just got
to read this Facebook page. But that was an interesting one because you know.
I have a lot of the photos and I can share them with you
if you like, if you have a site to put them up. Of
these these palmarks on the on the truck. I do have a site where
I could put those up, but I'm kind of shying away from posting pictures
anymore. There's so many haters and negative comments and all. I just try
to steer away from that. But thanks for offering, though that's too bad.
Well, I can share them with you personally if you if you want,
for your own interests. But but they are they are quite quite something
to see. Oh no, I believe it. Do you have any other
experiences you could share with this that have been shared with you? There's so
there's a lady that emailed me. I don't know if any of your listeners
are familiar with Toronto. Charles's a big city. I think it's the fourth
or fifth biggest city in North America, biggest sitting in Canada. And we
have a federal or a national park called Rouge Park, and it kind of
borders so Scarborough's or Chorno's made up bureaus just like New York City. You
know, you're Manhattan and you're Brooklyn. So, Toronto has an area called
Scarborough, which is on the far east end of the city and it boarders
up to another city called Pickering. And this Rouge Park is about thirty miles
thirty square miles and it's accessible three hundred and sixty five days a year.
And this woman lots of hiking trails, ponds and everything else. And this
girl emails me and she says she saw this dog man on one of the
trails. And this really kind of floored me a bit, because that's almost
like saying like someone's saying that they saw a dog man or bigfoot in Central
Park in New York City. And she described this thing as humanoid, tall,
all black like the Doberman features, and he was at the bottom of
a hill on this trail and it just looked up at her. And the
funny thing is, she said it just kind of disappeared, like it didn't
run away, didn't you know, didn't jump into the bush or anything,
but it just kind of like dematerialized in front of her. And that really
rattled her. And she's another one though, that I've I've tried to get
a hold of since just to see if anything else has happened and I can't
get can't get a hold of her. But yeah, something in a big
city is certainly interesting as well. And you know that that almost ties into
a lot of where they're more paranormal than physical. Well, as you know,
these guys, they do display some pretty paranormal quality. It's not all
of them, of course, but it's not rare for credible eyewitness to come
forward. And when they're laying out the details of their experiences, here's some
strange things and all. And these people, I mean, they sound credible
as the day is long. So yeah, sure does make you think and
wonder if these guys don't almost all have paranormal abilities and quality still. Well,
I mean I haven't sorry, you know, I haven't listened to your
show, but I think I'm going to now. But you know, I
listened to the Confessionals Sasquatch chronicles, and I think people like that. You
know, you've got those two camps with the Bigfoot people, and you know,
some people are so adamant that it's nothing but a giant hominid, you
know, bipedal quote unquote monkey or gorilla that we haven't really discovered. And
then there's other people that say, well, I think it's more paranormal.
They're they're interdimensional. They can use control the vibrational rate so they can disappear,
and you know, you hear people talk about encounters where like in the
movie Predator, where when he does his cloaking technology, people have seen something
like that moving through the trees, and I think, I think dog Man,
I mean, just from what I've heard, has some of the same
traits or qualities or abilities. So it is uh, I mean, it's
it's even for someone who's very open minded like me. Uh, it's hard.
It's hard to believe. I believe it, but but it's it's hard
to believe, and it's it's really hard to convince somebody else that that there
might be something more to these beings than just flesh and blood. Oh,
no doubt. Yeah, we haven't even proven that they're extant yet. If
you have a quote unquote creature out there that hasn't been proven to be in
existence, it's a big leap to try and get people to wrap their minds
around them having paranormal abilities. But yeah, to touch on what I said
earlier, there have been way too many cases of credible eyewitnesses telling me about
being in Maine on vacation. One day they have a dog man encounter in
the morning, they freak out, they fly home that afternoon, they go
to bed after they make it in, and the next morning in Florida where
they live, they go out back and bam, the same dog mans out
there. So how can you explain that a way as being a flesh and
blood creature. I mean, that's that's something that you hear time and time
again when you do what I do. One thing you'll like. One thing
you hear about the dog main phenomena is that they're quite vengeful or vindictive.
You know, you've heard reports about police officers shooting at them on the side
of the road, you know, like your state troopers or our provincial police.
And uh, they'll go home, like you said, and then the
next night they'll you know, they're off duty, and they look outside and
there's this this huge thing standing in their backyard. It's like, well,
how the how the heck did this thing find out where I live? And
you know, and what's it doing here? And like and I guess,
uh, the shots that I put into it didn't do a darn thing.
Anyway, So what's the point? Yeah, that old question, what does
it want? That's probably the most important question right there, if it follows
you that far. But yeah, no kidding, Yeah, that's just on
a list of questions. Do you have any other experiences you'd like to share
with this that have been shared with you? Uh, there's a lady who
lives in Alabama. She's been on my my old podcast that I that I
used to have, and I know that she has a YouTube channel. I
should have talked to her earlier today, but she has uh ask her permission
to give out the name of her show. But she has tons of dog
manppearances and I think I think she lived said she lived about twenty thirty minutes
away from Mobile, Alabama, and the dog man sightings that she had was
on her parents' property, and I guess it was you know, when she
still lived there when she was a kid. You know, her property as
well. And she's she's even seventy pictures that she's taken. And this dog
man looks like the Doberman, you know, with the the ears straight up
and you know, it looks just like a huge Doberman pincer. It would
never come out of the bush and step foot onto their property, like the
mode long part of the property. But she would see this thing or things,
because I think there was more than one, but they seem to be
drawn to her and her parents' property for some reason. And getting into the
paranormal part of it, she would say that she'd be on the porch or
their their back patio and she would hear in her her ear the breathing of
this of a dog and she'd look and there's nothing there. So that we
go back into the you know, the cloaking part of things, and like
like what's you know, what's that all about? Why why will they allow
her to see them just pass the property line? But they'll come, you
know, in their quote unquote cloak form and breathe ready in her ear.
But they're not doing any harm to her like she's and I don't even think
that she's afraid of these things because she's been having experiences for so long.
But yeah, it's interesting to know that there are different looking dog men out
there as well. You know, you have the the doberman look, the
hyena, like I mentioned before, I've also heard the ones that look like
uh, timberwolves and that may be where the lore you know, from Eastern
Europe, where the werewolf fable or superstitions came in. Now, I couldn't
agree more. I think that's where they did come from as well. I
mean, if you think about it, back then, they didn't have a
very impressive understanding exactly of how the world worked around them. So if they're
in the forest and they see a dog man, they see it's walking by
peal ly Well, dark arts black magic was a big thing back then,
so I guess it's a pretty expected thing for them to think, Okay,
well here's a person obviously in front of me who via the dark arts,
they transformed themselves from the state of a human into that of a beast.
So yeah, I'll bet you're right. I bet you that's worth these where
wolf legends came from. Yeah perhaps what like so, like I said,
and listen to your show, unfortunately, but what are your thoughts, like
just on like, what do you think that they are? Do you think
they're physical or do you think they're more paranormal or well, if you do
what I do for any period of time, it's only natural that you're going
to bounce back and forth from at one moment being convinced that they have to
be ethereal beings from the ether, and then the next moment after you talk
with so many credible eyewitnesses who report seeing offspring that are two feet tall walking
next to a larger one, or seeing one drinking stagnant water out of a
moss covered pond in the middle of the night, or eating fetid roadkill.
Well, that points towards them being flesh and blood creatures, because why wouldn't
ethereal being need to do that, and why wouldn't ethereal being have offspring?
So it's only natural that you bounce back and forth. I can't really tell
you what I think they definitely are because I don't hell I changed my opinion
on that so often. The one, the one thing that really sealed it
for me is leaning more towards the paranormal is if you ever read the book
Hunt for the Skinwalker by George Knapp, and I can't I can't remember the
other gentleman's name, but it was one of the scientists out there on the
Skinwalker Ranch in Utah, And there's a park in the book where these two
scientists are up on one of the ridges at night and they've got all their
equipment set up, and you know, they're watching the sky looking for UFOs
and other strange phenomena, and across this small valley from them, but still
up on the on the ridge, they reported that it looked like a tear
opening up in the in the sky or in the air, like a blue
tear, and this wolfman type creature crawls out of it. The tear seals
itself up and disappears, and this wolflike you know, wolfman creature runs up
up the hill the escarpment, and you know that these two guys look at
each other like, I think it's time to go, Like we should really
get to get the heck out of here. And I think, you know,
I think that when I read that, I was like, yeah,
that for me, for the dog man portion of it, I think that
that sealed the deal. Because those guys, you know, especially for scientists,
they ridicule each other all the time. And you always heard like,
you know, bigfoot researchers, you know, approaching universities and biological labs and
DNA labs, and you know, they kind of get run out the door,
whether they believe it or not, you know, because that reputation can
haunt them, Like if they say, oh, yeah, I've you know,
firmly believe in in this creature. But yeah, when I saw that
and they were they were willing report on it, is like, yeah,
I think, I think that's really sealed it for me, especially from the
Skinwalker ranch. It's not like it's bad enough when you consider how big they
are, how fast they are, how frightening they look in a lot of
cases, but that on top of the fact that apparently at least some of
these guys can cloak and some of these guys can do things that are taking
this whole fright thing above that. Even so, it's just like adding insult
to injury. It really is speaking of fright there though, Dan, that
brings a really good question to mine for you. When you do what the
two of us do, I think it's almost inevitable that you have this encounter
over here that an eyewitness shares with you that sticks with you. I don't
have dog Me and nightmares. People ask that, and I think they wonder
that all the time. When you consider the volume of dog Man witnesses I
speak with about their encounters, Well, VIC must have dog Me and related
nightmares because he speaks with so many people about dog men as dog men dog
me and dog men. Well, I don't. I don't have dogmen related
nightmares. But from time to time I will speak with this eyewitness or that
eyewitness who shares an encounter or encounters with me that it's a case where their
encounter or their encounters stick with me. And I'm doing whatever, I might
be prepping a show or doing this or whatever, walking in the woods,
and I think back to what they told me about what they had been through,
and I'm thinking, oh, man, that's just horrible, and it
just kind of it almost gets me down. Do you have any encounters that
come to mind that have affected you that way? You were affected so strongly
when the eyewitness shared that encounter or their encounters with you, that their story
stuck with you, and it was almost depressing to think about because you felt
so bad for them and what they unfortunately were made to beer and go through.
I don't really, you know, feel bad myself per se. I
mean for me, it's more like, oh, I want to go to
this location where they had this experience because I want to experience it myself.
I just chalk it up like, if they're believers and they can calm themselves
down enough, you know, after their account encounters to kind of accept that
there are things that go bump in the night and things that we can't explain,
then that's good, you know, because that kind of kind of grounds
them a little bit. But no, I mean, like if someone local
said, oh, I saw what I thought was a bigfoot or a dog
man or something else, the first thing out of my mouth is, well,
kind of come out there and investigate, and you know, if they're
still worked up and frightened, I'll try my best to, you know,
to alleviate some of their fears and say, oh, you know, you'll
be fine and and don't worry about it. It's it's just it is what
it is. But no, I don't really, I don't. I don't
get bummed out about it. I kind of get excited about it. So
well, that's good. I'm glad it's all positive. Yeah, that's a
good thing. But there is uh this is a sasquatch related story, and
I don't know if you if you want to hear about it, but I
do have one where I've one that I've thought about quite a lot, just
because of what this poor guy went through if you want to hear about it,
well, we try to focus on dog men around here, but why
not. Why not? So we have a huge cottage country about a couple
hours two to three hours north of Toronto. We have an area called Georgian
Bay, a town called Perry Sound, there's the Muskocas. I'm sure a
lot of the listeners have probably heard about these areas. And me and one
of the other Ontario sasquatch researchers got called by this gentleman I'll call him Jeff
for the sake of the story. Here and his father, who lives in
England, has a cottage. It's on the mainland, but the only way
you can get there is by boat because there's no roads going around this part
of the mainland. It's a beautiful little cottage. They only use it like
maybe once a year. Like Dad will fly over from England and spend a
week or two and then he's gone. But during COVID, this guy,
Jeff and his wife were looking for a place to hang out where you know,
they didn't have to interact with a lot of people, didn't have to
worry about, you know, social distancing. And masking and all that other
nonsense. And so they went to the cottage full time, and they were
there for months and months and months, and they started having crazy things happen
at this cottage. And the one thing that really was really profound is it's
the cottage is on like an inlet and like surrounded by like two bays,
and the land kind of jots out into the lake. And he would fish
every day in a certain inlet, in a certain bay. Sorry, and
a tree came down, like he's looking up, maybe a thirty forty foot
high cliff on the one side, and a healthy tree got pushed down just
out of the blue, beautiful sunny day. There's no wind, there's no
storm, nothing, And he was kind of like, and he's a believer,
like he's never he's never had any interactions, but he does believe that
there's something out there Sasquatch related. And I'm sure you've heard of the infrasound
that they say the sasquatchin control. And this guy was in his boat fishing,
having a great time, and this tree came down, and then a
few minutes later he just was overcome with this terror. Like this guy,
he's a bit of a tough guy. He backpacks through Mexico. He sleeps
in the jungle with jaguars and scorpions, all sorts of things. Like he's
not a wous And he was so overcome with terror, like just washed over
him that he peeled all the skin off the palm of his hand trying to
get the boat started. Like he literally ripped like a layer to her skin
off his hand. He was like bleeding like crazy and trying to get this
boat started so he could get back to the cottage. And that was That's
probably one of the one of the worst things I've heard, like ormost profound,
like where someone has been injured from an encounter, like he didn't see
the creature, but even he knew what the infrasound was because I guess he'd
done some research. And yeah, I can booting around in the bay and
the boat and like like for gone all like water safety beach, the beach,
the boat and jumped out and ran up the hill to the cottage.
And yeah, and they had tons of incidents from there on in so much
that this other researcher and I had to go up there and spend some time
and do some investigations and alleviate their fears a little bit. When you're motivated,
it's hard to say what you wouldn't do. So yeah, I believe
that guy did do a number on his palm like that. Yeah it was.
Yeah, it was like you said, you said, Dan, you
know, I'm a fairly tough person. You know, things don't scare me.
But he just was overwhelmed with this debilitating terror and couldn't get out of
there quick enough. Yeah. I don't know what it is about the vibrations
and the ultrasound or I guess the infrasound, but somehow they can, at
least apparently, it seems like they can affect you that way where they can
just overwhelm you with fear. Have you ever heard of dog man doing that
as well? Because I've only ever heard of sasquatch they quit being able to
do that. I've definitely heard of people being in their presence feeling this overwhelming
sense of fear without even realizing that it was a dog man that was there.
They were in the forest and all of a sudden they just felt this
overwhelming sense of fear, and then later on after the fact they realized that
there was a dog men there. I don't know if that was caused by
infrasound or something else, but people definitely on a pretty regular basis report that.
So yeah, there must be something to that. Yeah, and it
is a real, real thing, Like I know, certain animals can do
it. Giraffes can do it, tigers and I think elephants, wolves,
So why not? Why not other animals? Even encryptis right? That's true.
Seems like the largest example from a certain animal species. They normally tend
to have that ability. It would appear not always, but in a lot
of cases that seems to be how it is. I'm wondering to kind of
set this next question up. I need to ask you another question, and
that question, Dan, is when it comes to the boreal forest, the
Great Boreal Forest in Canada, does that would run? That's what I'm wondering
about. At one point in time in the States. What's the name of
that forest that is in Texas? Most of it's considered to be in Texas
now, they used to run all the way up north to the Canada,
the Canadian border. I forgot the name of that forest. But there's a
forest in the United States where a lot of sasquatch researchers go in Texas,
especially looking for sasquatching counters well with the Great Boreal Forest. I wasn't sure
if that's the same way where the Boreal forest is considered to run coast to
coast, east to west coast, all the way across the breadth of Canada.
But I know it's broken up now. Of course, over the years,
it's been cut into and broken up. But I wasn't sure phil is
considered to be one forest still or if it's considered to be broken up.
I don't know. Might have to do a Google search on that. But
I mean, I guess if these things are connected, and I'm sure they
use travel travel ways, just like I guess migrating animals to right, they
take the path of least resistance, or they try to, and they would
try to avoid humans and built up areas, I would imagine, but I
guess from time to time they they get hungry, or they get curious or
lost, who knows, and they end up branching out and ending up in
areas that they're not supposed to be. But I don't know. That's that's
uh, that's something to think about as well. Ah the big Thicket.
That's what I was thinking of, the big thicket, The Big Thicket.
That's right, Teresa address in the live chat. I just looked over and
I saw that she she named it for me. My point of time,
Dan, that actually ran from Mexico all the way up to the northern border.
But as progress quote unquote progress has come into the picture, it's been
broken up and there are still parts of it all the way up to the
border. But yeah, it's not continuous the way it used to be.
That's basically what I was wondering about. If the boreal forest in certain areas
did run still from the east coast of Canada to the west coast, and
if it did, I was going to ask the question if, since it
would still be considered to be one forest, I was going to ask you
if there was a particular part of the boreal forest, the Great Boreal Forest,
that is that seems to be the hottest spot for dog meeting encounters.
H I did have a lady from New Brunswick, which is the east coast
of Canada. She was having sightings of dog man like almost every day,
like they were coming up to her her windows. She was getting pictures of
them, and uh and you know, of course you know, and you
know hopefully you're the people that listen to your show are open minded, but
h and will accept my my explanation as to why pictures come out blurry.
It's because of that vibrational rate that they can control as well and that infra
sound. You know, people say, als, why why do pictures always
always blurry when it comes to sasquatch or dog man, you know, And
I think it's that vibrational rate they can can control their how they appear.
And me see if I can find uh as we're chatting here and find her
story, because she was having so many encounters like pictures taking taken every day
and she doesn't and she has accepted them, and she doesn't want anybody to
them, you know, to her property and do anything, you know,
untowards towards the cryptis that she has there. But you know, and she
even talks about, yeah, you know, they're blurry, but but if
you, if you have a good eye, you can see the outlines of
them, and some of them come right up to her her window, like
enough to just pruss their palms on it. So but that might be part
of that forest that line across the continent, I think a lot of times
too. And this is another rabbit hole that you could go down, is
the tunnel systems or the caves and the cave systems that we have, especially
in the US, like in the Appalachians and in the Rocky Mountains and the
Ozarks, like because you look at like if you listen to uh missing for
one, David Plaidi's he's got this map of the national forests and missing people,
and then you overlap them or overlay them with the cave systems that have
been discovered that we actually know about. And who knows that these things aren't
traveling underground either and maybe picking people off as they go. Yeah, that's
a pretty disconcerting thought as far as Canada goes, though, I thought you
didn't only have much at all in the way of caves. I know there's
a very large portion of Canada that people just basically have never developed because the
soil level there is so thin. I forgot the name of that rock that's
right under the surface, that rock layer, but it's literally just right there,
just barely under the surface. So there's no way to farm that particular
area and If that's the case, it's just a solid chunk of rock that
goes all the way down into the several as of the Earth, precluding the
chance of a cave system. That's not to say that maybe out west there
aren't areas where they actually do farm that have an extensive cave system or something
like that. But I thought that was the cave in most of Canada,
is it, Well, you're thinking about in Ontario where it's called the Canadian
Shield, where it's all it's all rock. Yeah, And like you said
that the soil is very thin. It's usually up north there's a craters from
meteorites up there, and that's where when the astronauts that were first going to
the Moon, when when they you know, were driving around the little dune
Buckie on the Moon, they did their training in northern Ontario because these rocks
were the closest thing that they had to the surface of the Moon. So,
but I have been told by people in the know that there are tunnel
systems under some of our parks as well. We have a huge national or
provincial park in Ontario called Algonquin Park and it's massive and apparently there's tons of
tunnels underneath there, and I'm sure there are people that know about them,
maybe you know, in the government or geologists or whoever. But I think
I think that they go on for miles and miles too, so and we
get a lot of big foot sightings from Algonquin Park as well. Key systems
like that would be a great way for cryptids to move around. So that's
right, And gentlemen in the chat there the truth he says they did their
filming there as well. I think he's alluding to them hoaxing the moon landing
another rabbit hole to go down. Oh yeah, some of your rabbit holes
out there. You can almost take your pick. But you know what,
that's good for guys like you and I who are right into the paranormal.
So I mean, you could pick a different topic every night, so you
could, Yeah, you definitely could something I'm a little foggy on still a
dan. Do you do what you do to try and improve their existence existence
of dog men? Or do you just do this to try and for personal
discovery and to try and find out as much about these guys as you can
for personal reasons. I don't think that I ever want to be that guy
who comes up with the definitive proof that these things exist, because you would
probably get a lot of people knocking your knocking on your door that you don't
want, you know, men in black type, three letter agency type people.
But yeah, I mean, I'm just I've always been fascinated with paranormal,
you know, like I said, and more of a more of a
ghost guy, non human entity guy. I don't get. I don't get
out as much as I used to into the bush for sasquatch related stuff.
But yeah, I just I would just you know, that's that's the dream.
I just want to see one. I know they're right there. Like
I said, I've had encounters with them with with the tree knockings and the
rock throwing and other stuff, and I don't. I just I just want
to see one. And if I do, great, and if I don't,
well that's life. And I like, I don't. I don't know
if I want to see a dog man though, because I think I think
with sasquatch you can kind of reason with them a little bit more a dog
man, you know, It's it's like, uh, you know, monkeys,
are you know a monkey? You could you could say, okay,
you know, back up, and uh, you know, throw them bin
in and throw them a treat something. But uh, you know, rabbit
dogs or wolves. You know you're not gonna sit there and rub their belly
and and wait until until you know you're good to go. No, you're
not. There's no future in trying to do that. Pull back and a
stump if you do. Yeah, don't don't rub their bellies. That would
be bad. You might make a friend. You might make a friend that
you don't want. So yeah, can you imagine that that wouldn't be good?
And running in hurts from mister Baker here, I've never heard of people
seeing more than one dog man. I've heard of people seeing troops of our
families of a sasquatch, you know, you'll have the mom and dad and
and juveniles. But I don't think I've ever heard of someone seeing more than
one dog man. Like like you said, maybe they might have a young
one with them, but I don't know. That's interesting, But so far
I haven't. I think you might have I don't know from another listener or
another guest. Oh yeah, plenty of times it's been reported to me where
people have seen several of them together. But yeah, in cases like that.
I definitely think that that's the exception and not the norm, not the
rule, because when you think about their daily clerk requirements, it would be
foolish for them to hang out in numbers for any appreciable amount of time because
they would blow through the resources in any area almost overnight. So it just
wouldn't make sense. And also too, animals like wolves pack hunters like wolves,
for example, coyotes and a lot of cases, they hunt in groups
because in order to dispatch their prey, numbers of them are required to do
so. But with dog men, I mean they're going to be able to
take down anything that they want that they come across that they have a mind
to predate on, so there's no requirement to operate in numbers. So yeah,
that's why I think it happens where they do come together in numbers from
time to time. But yeah, I think that's the exception instead of the
rule. But I've got another question for you from Andres Carazales. And Andres
wants to know we're any encounters and a metal door. I know what he's
talking about. So a lot of people, Uh, David Plaidi's with the
missing for one talks about this where people will hear this, like a clanking
or this or this the sound of a sliding metal door when they're out hiking
in these national parks, and then people will disappear and they're they're you know,
no one has ever said, well, here's the reason why. But
it's almost like, you know, if you get into the you know,
the rabbit hole of tunnels underneath the national parks, then people upset. Yeah,
we hear this, it's like a sliding metal door or a hatch or
something, and then boom, Grandpa's gone or you know, or this guy
that I was fishing with is gone, And yeah, I haven't heard any
like with my limited stories from people, I haven't heard anything of the metallic
sounds around dog men or sasquash up here in Canada. But in the States,
in your national parks, I've heard that quite a bit. When here
cases like that, that really does point soundly towards the idea that these guys
are sent up to the surface by humans or some other party. Don't know
what that would be except for maybe ets, but it does really make you
think there's got to be something to that. This whole the allegations about how
our government is basically breeding these guys or whatnot. So it really does make
you wonder. The next question for you is from Scott Baker, and Scott
wants to know I heard of albino bigfoot, but what about albino dog men?
Have you heard of any? No, Like I said, I've heard
about the ones that look like timberwolves. I've heard about the ones that look
like Doberman pincers and the hyena, but I've never heard of melvino one.
That would be interesting. That's another one of those things where, if you
think about it, if you make your living hunting game, hunting prey,
if you're white like that, that really complicates things. But these guys are
so fast and so sneaky and so powerful, and they're implements of destruction their
teeth, their claws and everything involved. They're so formidable. I guess they
can still overcome a disadvantage like that. If they do have the ability to
somehow magically cloak, that just takes that right off the table as being a
handicap, So I guess get around that. I wonder if they can cloak
all the time, though I think they're kind of limited to how long that
they could cloak themselves. I mean even people. I'm sure that this is
a dog man thing as well, not just sasquatch. Like when I spoke
about the the two scientists that saw the one come out of that tear,
you know, in in the air. So that's almost like an interdimensional thing.
But like you know, I've heard reports, uh from what's you know,
what's the mountain and uh if it was Washington State or the volcano that
blew years and years ago Saint Helens mount and people have said that they found
like the corpses of burnt sasquatch on this on this mountain. So you got
to think, well, if maybe they can't use their their teleportation anytime they
want, or they're vibrational, because you think if if they saw this this
lava coming down the mountain and these fires, then they could just use their
abilities, their paranormal abilities to get away. But I don't know, it's
a I don't I don't know if I ever know, but it certainly makes
for you know, great podcasts and an interesting you know, an interesting planet
that we live on. That's a really good point I'd never thought of before.
Yeah, there were several reported cases of sasquatch being killed in that explosion
of Mount Saint Helens And that's that's right. Yeah, And like I mean,
I've seen evidence of uh, you know, following footprints in the snow
or in the sand, like on a beach, and they just disappear,
and it's you know, you're in the middle of a field and there's nothing,
there's no trees nearby to jump into, Like you know, did a
UFO pick them up, did a helicopter come down, or did they just
reach a certain point where there might be a portal and travel through it?
Like maybe like do they does there have to be something they for them to
be able to travel through it, or can they create a portal on their
own, like maybe you know, with Mount Saint Helen's there there wasn't anything
nearby for them to escape to and they were killed by the fire and the
lava. That's a really good point. Yeah, it really does make you
wonder. And like I said, that's something I'd never really thought about before
some landing brought that up. I mean, there are credible reports of these
guys of sasquatch being hit and killed by cars and trucks. So if that's
the case, how did that happen if they have this ability to just wink
in and out of existence here, So good point. And the one thing,
I think dog Man is more paranormal than Sasquatch because of what you just
said, like heard of one's being killed, you know, by a military
or hunters. And but I've heard heard a lot of reports where you know,
people have shot at dog Man and the bullets pass right through it or
it doesn't seem to be affected at all. Whereas the Sasquatch, you know,
you know, you'll see the blood or the fur puff puff up,
and and they'll run like they're sometimes you know, you've heard that they're afraid
of the guns, like they recognize them as weapons. But the dog Man,
it almost seems to be like gay. I'm not worried at all,
Like earlier when I was talking about like the State troopers that have been you
know, reported to a shot at one and then they go home and the
next night is staying outside their living room window. Well, most most State
troopers that I've ever spoken to, which very few, but I imagine they
have firearms at home, and you know, and quite readily, and you
know, if this thing doesn't doesn't fear it, or or if it doesn't
recognize that it's something they could kill it, then then that makes it I
don't know, a little bit, a little bit more paranormal or a little
tougher. So another thing to think about. That definitely does make it awfully
difficult and hard to explain talking about this whole false sense of security that guns
give a lot of people when they head into the woods and when they think
about dog men. There was a guest, a popular guest, who came
on about let's see thinking about the episode number must have been about four years
ago, I think four to five years ago, who after the show aired
and I checked back in with him. It was probably about a year or
so after that episode aired and we had consequently spoken for the last time.
He told me about this plan. He had to head into the forest near
his home where he knew these guys were. That's where he'd had his encounter.
He told me about this plan. He had to go into those woods
and actually bag one bag a dog man to once and for all officially prove
the existence. Well, he was so confident in the ability of that gun.
I think it was a ten millimeter something like that. That. I
just shook my head and tried to tell them, Look, now, there
are people who have shot these guys with much more formiderable, formidable weaponry than
that a ten millimeter. A ten millimeter is nothing to sneeze at at all,
But I mean people have used rifles, powerful rifles, potent rifles to
shoot these guys without any effect. For the most part. You're going to
go into the woods and be confident in that ten milimeter to protect yourself and
then just basically working through things to make sure he knew exactly what he was
up for. If he tried to do that, it became evident he didn't
realize that these guys will take to the tree sometimes. And when I told
him about that, I said, okay, well, how are you going
to protect yourself if you know you've got one up in a tree above you,
and you're looking around like you're just telling me how you're going to keep
an eye out, You're going to keep your head on a swivel. Well,
they go up into trees also, you know, how are you going
to make sure that one doesn't get behind you up in the trees and jump
down behind you and dispatch you. Well, that just absolutely freaked him out.
So yeah, I need to land this plane now. Basically, what
I'm saying is time after time to touch on what you said about guns.
People just really overestimate their ability to protect themselves in the woods with these guys
sasquatch in dog men because they think, Okay, I've got a gun,
so I'm safe. I'm automatically safe. And all I can do is just
try to talk them out of that mindset, and if they don't want to
listen, just basically shake my head because they're not safe. They're not.
No, I don't I think you'd have to have twelve other guys with the
same kind of weaponry with you. You know, you're you're just not going
to do it one on one, I don't think, unless you get lucky
or yeah, who knows, Like you hear about people shooting them and killing
them, but well, where's you know, where's the picture of the body,
because everybody's going to cell phone, you know, so they've been taken
out occasionally, but yeah, not very often at all, would appear now
it's like I've got a Oh another question for you from Andre's Carazalez and Andres
wants to know did you notice a cluster of sidings in Canada where caves are
large bodies of water are large bodies of water, yes, but not not
caves. There's an area not far from where I am, maybe about an
hour and twenty minutes north of your a town called Owen Sound. I think
one of your other listeners, a lady had mentioned that, Judith. Yes,
she says, have you heard about the area around Owen Sound being a
dog man area? And yes, And Owen Sound a really nice town.
It's right on like Huron. And there's a place called Bogner Swamp which is
just just south of this town of Owen Sound, and we get a lot
of dog man sightings there. We get a lot of UFO sightings, sasquatch
sightings, and there's a lot of weird, weird stuff that happens around there.
We've had reports of basketball sized orbs chasing people's vehicles down some of the
side roads. It's just a weird just a weird area you know where you
you know, you drive in, you just get that weird vibe. But
yeah, bodies of water, yes, But I'm gonna have to look more
into the cave system thing. Well, like you said, the cave system
would be a perfect way for them to travel undetected, so it only makes
sense they would use them, absolutely definitely. This next one up is from
Onyx Moon Home and Halls and their question is are there a lot of missing
persons in Canada and if so, do you think dog men slash bigfoot have
anything to do with them? As for missing persons? And this is probably
probably the same in the US as well. We get a lot of missing
people around we call them First Nations, but you know the you know,
the common term is Indian Reservations thunder Bay, Ontario, which is way up
north. It's like a seventeen hour drive from here or more. Get a
lot of missing people. They call it the Highway of Tears. Out in
British Columbia they get a lot of reports of missing people as well, and
a lot of them are around the First Nations or Indian Reservations. I don't
think that has entity with dogment a big foot. I think that's like a
human trafficking problem that's unfortunately worldwide, and in remote areas. You know,
it's a lot easier to pluck people all off the side of the road,
hitchhiking or from you know, trucks, truck stops, things like that.
So I don't think I don't think that's paranormal. I think that's just terrible
human beings. Yeah, it's a much bigger problem than most people realize.
Definitely, it's terrible. It is when we find when we find out where
these tunnels are, we should should throw these pedophiles and human traffickers down there.
Yeah, if you get out, you're free to go. If not
that that'd be a good start. Bigfoot's chewing on your skull, no doubt.
Looks like I have another one for you from Ganny Mead, and their
question is are the regions in Canada where Canadians are afraid of traveling? I
don't think so, not that I've heard. I'm sure, Just like you
know, there's people that walk the Appalachian Trail, which I think starts in
Georgia and goes all the way up to the Canadian border, where people have
gone missing. But you know that's that's something you know, you just have
to be smart, have a tracking system, you know, And Canada we
don't. I mean we have guns, but we don't carry them when we
go hiking or boating or camping. We'd just rather duke it out with the
big Foot rather than shooting. But yeah, I don't think there's any any
any locations out there that we're afraid to travel in. Oh, that's good,
that's a really good thing. But having said that, Canada is huge,
like the second biggest country in the world, and I think eighty percent
of all Canadians live like within one hundred miles of the US border, which
is crazy because like when you look at a map of Ontario, like from
you know, just above Toronto and up, it's just one huge forest,
like a massive forest, you know, and like twice the size of Texas,
but has like a core of the population. Like there's more people that
live in California than all of Canada. We're the second biggest country in the
world and it's all it's all bush and so whoever, like there must there
might be things out there that we haven't discovered yet in the areas we might
have our own, you know, skinwalker ranch type areas as well that we
just haven't discovered or for somebody knows about it and they're they're just keeping it
quiet. When you're dealing with an area that big and that remote, you're
right, you have no idea what might be out there or what might not
for sure. You know, like when people talk about giants in the forest,
you know that seems far fetched, but hey, you never know,
right, You're right, they've got the room to room out there and never
be discovered, so you never do you know. I've got another one for
you from Onyx Moon. Their question is are there a lot of UFO sidings
around the areas of dog man sidings. Some people think they are related.
What's your opinion on it. Well, that area that I just spoke of,
the town Owen Sound, there are a lot of UFO sidings and not
just like I'm not just talking about the ships, but they've got these huge
basketball signed orbs, and there's a lot of Bigfoot and dog Man sidings in
that area. And I think that alludes to the portals. I think they
all travel through the same same portals, they just to access them differently.
You know, a lot of I hear a lot of people say that aliens
quote unquote, like grays and reptilians are fallen angels or demons or you know,
demons. I don't think so. I think that they are from another
galaxy or solar system or planet, and they've be coming here forever. And
I just think that they access I think they have the technology to access different
dimensions and different portals, and I think that's how they travel. They get
from point A to point B. Instead of flying for you know, at
light speed for years upon end, they just go through these wormholes or portals
or whatever. And I think the Sasquatch and the dog man do it naturally,
and the aliens do it through technology. If you think about it,
we do a lot of things today that people in the olden times would see
as being supernatural. I mean, if you traveled back in time with your
cell phone, they burn you at the stake, they sure would. You
wouldn't make it too far, right, You're right, just taking pictures with
your phone wristwatch would get you killed. Yeah, that's right right. They
think it was like you know this, you know, something related to the
devil, and you'd be hanging from a tree really quick. Well, you
know you would, you definitely would. I've got another one on deck from
Deed Truth and d wants to know how do the authorities in Canada react to
hearing about dog mait? Now, that is a good question. Because I
have I have tried to speak to park rangers and conservation officers and police officers,
especially in the northern parts of Ontario, you know, try and get
them to talk about bigfoot or you know. I haven't brought up dogmn to
them, but there are there are times where you get a funny look from
them and they kind of change the subject real quick. This is this is
more bigfoot related. But there was a gentleman that I ran into it,
and he was recently retired from the RCMP, which is Canada's a federal police
service, and he's from Ontario, but he did all his policing out in
British Columbia. And he told me that he was part of a special group
that I think there's only eighteen or nineteen members. But he wouldn't tell me
what they did. He wouldn't tell me the name of the group, and
he was very very cryptic about talking about it. And I don't know if
you remember anybody else in the chat here remembers years and years ago there was
a rash of human feet still inside the running shoes and boots that were washing
up on the shores of British Columbia. Oh yeah, and it was just
the feet and the shoes were like like it was like someone that had chopped
off a person's foot with the shoe in it. But they were finding all
these feet washing up. And I can't remember the exact location between Victoria and
Vancouver, there's a waterway there. And I got talking to him about that
and I said to him, I said, well, you know a lot
of people think that that sasquatch related. And when I said that, this
guy's attitude and personally change like like that, and he changed the subject so
fast and he shut down that conversation. Boom you took off. And I
was like, hmm, like what part of like what what kind of unit
were you in there, sir? And you know, as soon as I
mentioned bigfoot, like he shut it down and gone. And that was kind
of that was kind of weird. So I think that there are, like
I said, there's people in the know, and yeah, and they don't
like to talk about it, or they or they were you know, I'm
sure they signed huge non disclosure agreements too. Oh, they definitely don't.
And it sure sounds to me like you hit a soft spot with that comment.
Oh yeah, and yeah, and I've and I've heard of sorry to
drop. I've heard of RCMP units coming out of the bush like armed to
the teeth, you know, and people say, oh, like, what
are you guys doing, you know, you know, because there's a missing
person reported, and these tactical units said, listen, we've already searched over
there. Do not go over there. You guys can search down by the
river, you can search here and there, but do not go up this
valley, like under no circumstances. And even David Plais from Missing Forward and
One has has gone through the Freedom of Information Act and asked for reports from
the RCMP and other police services you know in North America, and they're so
redacted. It's like it's just like one big blacked out report. And she's
like, well, if they're just searching for a missing person, and then
then why is it redacted? And why these guys aren't like they're ready for
war. Right, that's a really good point. Yeah, there's clearly more
to it, but they're never gonna let us know. I can understand why
they don't want us to know. But yeah, it's just one of those
things that really sticks in a lot of people's craw The fact that the governments
are never gonna let us know. Tell you what, Dan, We're getting
close to time to get out of here, but before we do, do
you have any clothes and comments you'd like to share. I wish I could
have got more to more of your your listeners here. But you know,
if if you're if you're going to go out into the woods, you know,
especially if you're really wanting to look for dog man or or bigfoot,
I would say put a a go pro on your back, as you know,
especially if you're looking for something, because I think a lot of times
people miss the things that peek out and dart out behind them on the pathways
and go with you know, like be smart about it. Go go with
a friend, or if you're not going to go with somebody, let somebody
to know where you're going, what time you're going to be there, what
time you're going to come out. You know. David Plaiti's really suggests that
you take a personal location peaking with you, but you know those are those
are pricey and not everybody wants to pay for those things. But just be
careful out there and if you see something, let vic know, let me
know and come on the show. That'd be awesome. VIC needs more people,
right, Well, thanks for the plug, Bud, you're the guest.
Let's share that contact info one more time for you. If anyone's had
a Canadian related dog man encounter, what's the best way for them to contact
you? Again, Dan, So, I have a Facebook page called Canadian
dog Man Encounters and there's all. There's also the Strange Happenings Investigators of the
Paranormal Paranormal page and that's about it. Well, that makes it really easy,
and I am good at responding to people. I don't ghost people,
and you know, so if you have if you have a question or you
have a sighting, and some people had mentioned about some of the pictures,
I'll be more than happy to share them if anyone wishes, So let me
know. Dan. I can't thank you enough for coming on and not only
sharing all those experiences with this from people who have contacted you, but also
answering all these questions. I really appreciate it. Well, I appreciate you
having me on. Like I said, I used to be a podcast host
and it's been a long time since I've done anything like this, and it
was nice, always fun to talk to talk about the paranormal. It's never
a the whole moment. I know what you mean. Can I do one
shameless pluck by all means? So? I have a book written. It's
on Amazon. Where's my Camera. It's called Strange Happenings, A Paranormal Investigator's
Story. All you got to do is type my name in Dan Hammond and
I'm the first thing that pops up, and it's all about all my strange
and bizarre encounters with the paranormal. And there's some remote viewing stuff in there
as well, if anybody is interested in that. And yeah, that's my
shameless plug. Well, nothing wrong with that, And of course I'll make
it easier for the listeners to find it than that. What I'll do is
for the description for tonight show, I'll post a link to that book on
the Amazon. If you can send me that link, that'll make it really
easy for them to find it. And also too, I'll post a link
that they can use to come right to you and report their citing. If
they've had any sightings or experiences in Canada, how about that? Absolutely?
And if it you know, it's just not to be Canada. But if
you have some some crazy things that have happened to you, you've seeing them,
By all means, let me know and let think know as well.
Well, I appreciate it, you know. If I can never help you
in the future, by all means, please do you let me know.
Of course, not very hard to find, yep, especially down now that
we're connected and we're good to go. That's right, that's right. Well,
thanks again so much for your time, Dan, and of course have
a great night. Very welcome and thank you to everyone in the comments.
Thanks, we'll see. Well that does it for another show, of course.
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