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Mmmm, two thousand and fifteen rolled
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on it. Two thousand and fifteen. Twenty fifteen. We're in it,

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we're living it. It's the future. We're here. Welcome back, Welcome

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to it, Welcome to the future. Huh man, she's exciting. Machine,

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the future, all three of them. It's a theme for this year.

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Yeah, Welcome to the future,
man machine, the Future, the

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Future, the Fusion, the Fusion. I thought it was the fusion,

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you know, like, oh,
okay, Riles, I thought it was

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future. It's welcome, Welcome to
fututure, Man machine, the Fusion.

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Yes, light years ahead, I
think, and I can't be right.

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Oh god, is that light years
ahead of evil? Oh? I never

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got that yet. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Twenty fifteen is

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shaping up to be an exciting year
full of revelations. That's right. It's

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the final year. That's why we're
at revelations. Welcome to the giant bomb

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cast in twenty and fifteen. I'm
Brad Shoemaker. Jeff Kersman. No,

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do you have powaw? Uh?
Can you go on water? Yeah?

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I mean was that a Yeah?
I can do that? All right.

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I've already. I've already metal helmet. I've already burned through our weekly allotment

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of Back to the Future two jokes. Yeah, they didn't increase it for

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twenty fifteen, which is weird.
You would have thought that would have.

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But yeah, here we are,
here, we are scandling. Hey still

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bearded. Yeah, still standing at
the end of the table. Got this

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coffee that tastes like burned popcorn.
You drink coffee? I do? Now,

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wait what I've been drinking? Maybe
we should? Oh my god,

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I got hooked on it in Nam. What was happening you guys? What?

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Yeah, actual statement, It isn't
actual true. State of the things

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people have gotten hooked on in Vietnam, coffee is probably one of the more

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insidious but less lethal options. Yeah. I always avoided coffee and strong caffeinated

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things because they didn't want to become
like dependent on them, right. I

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didn't want to be one of those
guys that rolled around and it's oh it's

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three pm, I am tired,
I am bad at my job. But

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you know what that happened anyway,
So getting old. Yeah, so I'm

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just I'm gonna embrace the coffee.
I like coffee. I actually just went

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on Amazon and bought a whole bunch
of Christmas gifts for myself. Nice.

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It was not Search. It was
coffee peripherals, like flavored coffee, because

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it's all flavored. Now do you
get like flavors? I haven't gotten the

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beans yet, so if Search has
coffee beans, you're getting beans. You're

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grinding at yourself. Yeah. I
got a grinder, not a manual one

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because I'm not Will Smith. What
no, Yeah, then you know,

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like some weird upside down clear tube. It was a coffee bonga blade grinder

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or a burg grinder blade. I
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Will that we were in the market
for a better coffee pot, just like

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a drip coffee maker, right,
ye, like like we have a twenty

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dollars one from Walgreen. Yeah yeah. I was like, yeah, we're

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looking for something that's you know,
a little better, maybe a little less

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bitter. And the ones he recommended
me were in the two to three hundred

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dollars range, so I haven't haven't
quite committed to any of those. It

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was like fifteen bucks. Yeah,
and then I got I didn't want to

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have to deal with like you can
buy it already browned. Man, I

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know, but I don't know.
I kind of I kind of like the

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little taste here, Yeah, a
little ritual to it. Yeah, coffee.

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I like coffee because not only does
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it's got no calories, so you
can drink as much as you want and

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you should. Yeah for your teeth
though, isn't it. Dan Reicher,

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Oh hey, hello, how's it
going. You survived with heartland? I

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did it. I did another trip
back and visiting family members directly afterwards.

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I can I can hear it and
the flu. Yeah, voice a survivors.

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I heard your voice this morning and
I was like, he can get

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sick. Oh yeah, yeah,
he's not some weird superhuman anomaly that is

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immune to a city. If it
bleeds, we can kill it. It's

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true. It's like it's like what
is mortal. It's once a year,

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usually right around New Year's I get
the flu and that's pretty much it for

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the extra annual tradition. He really
is. It's like after systems, going

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through New Year's, I'm usually pretty
sick. Watch the twilights on marathon on

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Sci Fi. Thing get drastically ill. I got, I got good news

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for you. What's that now?
You don't need a flu shot this year?

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That's right. I heard you already
had it. I heard the flu

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shots this year. I didn't work
that well though, because the flu virus

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mutated and they didn't properly predict the
strains. Yes, I would have got

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it anyway, it was less effectively
evolving. That's that's Jason A Striker.

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Heyeah, they're going, Brad,
how are you doing? I'm doing pretty

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good man. Happy New Year.
Yeah, you as well. Got the

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entire San Francisco crew up here in
the studio right now here, we be

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uh hanging out, true true,
true, hanging out talking about stuff.

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Yeah, when we talk about on
this podcast. I think it has been

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it might have been five weeks since
I did a podcast in this room.

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I know you guys. Yeah,
we did one that we did ended up

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not using. Yeah, what happened, So I did the thing where you

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don't. I didn't save all project
when we started, so dumped all the

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temp files in the temp file directory, and then when I opened up to

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try to initiate automated recovery, the
whole thing took a ship and could only

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reassemble the first thirty seven minutes.
So what happened to begin with Audacity crash?

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Yes, it just locked up or
something. Did you know that Adobe

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Audition has been installed on this computer
the entire time. It is a far

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more robust, it's a better recording
solution. O my god, Oh my

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god. This is this is a
version of Windows that doesn't even have a

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searchable start menu. Yes, this
computer here, this is not our gear.

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We use it and it's when we
we were appreciative of the ability to

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use it. Yes, because there
are a lot of rackmount of compressors and

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a lot of cool stuff in here. But I guess the surface, the

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control surface they have here does not
necessarily work with the newer versions of Windows.

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So they've got what is that do? Is that XP? I believe?

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So are you talking about this TriCaster
control surface? No? No,

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this mixer mixer here? Okay,
apparently that was the thing that just prevented

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them from upgrade. Why they were
still on XP is that the big expensive

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surface does not work. Browser has
not had its history flushed and some time

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either It's some fun auto completes that
can be had a lot of people tend

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to leave their uh you know,
their Gmail and or drop Box logged in

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on this machine regular basis. Yeah, it's pretty crazy, a lot of

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people in and out of the studio. Yeah, so I have a bunch

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of six second files that I could
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if I wanted to, but that's
that's not something I really want to muck

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around with. Might be what do
command line style? Yeah, you could

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cat them all, but I think
it'll introduce some static because the files are

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not pure anyway. Anyway, right
at the end of it, like three

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hours, like three and a half
hours, it was pretty good. We

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were wrapping up in it. It
was it was a real fucking bummer.

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Wow, it was a real fucking
bummer. So then Rory and I ended

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up sitting and so that was you
know, that was Dan's last day in

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the office, so he was taking
off. These guys were working on video

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stuff, so they were not available. So Rory and I kind of just

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did like we were already thinking about
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for our last day in the office, so we rolled into part of that

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a most of the same emails that
we took uh and some other stuff kind

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of did a live podcast. Yeah, I enjoyed. I enjoyed your live

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ad production, which, oh yeah, for the people that I were asking

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in the chat, that's not how
we do ads here normally that was yours

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was a little more off the cuff. Yeah no, but but they are

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one take. Oh yeah, yeah, don't no mistake. That's not multiple

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Like you're like, oh no,
that one's not good. No, No,

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the ads are one take. Well, we did we we did this

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week. We did them all up
front. Yeah, yeah, we do

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them before the show. All the
ads for this week already done. Yeah,

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as of right now. And boy
they're great. Oh yeah, top

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shelf material. That's right, number
one ads. I watched that stream,

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Yeah, at my parents' house,
sitting in front of a fire. You

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did. Since it was four pm
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drinking. What could call the mood
lighting? What's that? What do you

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think of the mood lighting? Turn
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what was it? I guess I
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but I guess you're right. Lasting
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was a little more moody, wasn't
it done? That for a couple.

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Okay, Yeah, it was fun. It was a good time. Little

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a little more intimates. Yeah,
all right, well it's a new year.

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Who had a good holiday. I
want to hear about a holiday.

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We've got five people at holidays in
this room, and for the next two

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hours, you're going to sit here
and put them in a ranked list.

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Oh, I can go a term
in our holiday of the year. I

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just want to you know, I
said my piece about my holiday. I

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doesn't need to be on the list. I just wanted to know, just

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just I just wanted to be.
It's an honor for your holiday experience to

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be nominated. Yeah, and that's
fine. Can I put mine on then

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take it off? Uh sure,
but we'll get to you. Let's just

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go around the table, Jeff.
The destiny of holidays. No, I

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got with some family, laid low. We we kind of we hold up

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in the house and didn't didn't do
that much. It sounds good, kind

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of did some straighten it up,
some kind of just the end of season

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inventory cleaning type stuff that was there
was long overdue. Made some coffee,

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went shopping, did some stuff.
All things you do on an extended break.

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Yeah, exactly, and uh yeah, just that was that was good.

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Got a got a tree. Had
to dispose of a tree, a

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live tree? Oh yeah, those
are painting in the ass, you know

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what would water it? Well,
what am I going to get? Like

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a fake one? And then well
so the needles off the tree were not

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that big of a deal. But
the tree skirt we got, uh,

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is covered in gold. Glitter came
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big pile of glitter where the tree
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up. Glitter on tree skirts,
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It's all the worst, but skin
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place where it's appropriate. Yes,
I could probably get behind that. Yeah,

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yeah, so that was cool.
We got a tree, put presence

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under to open the presence as you
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Watched some television, you know.
I just kind of just kind of hung

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around right through Baying at A two
and one in that order? Did you

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play the wu Virgin of Bean at
two Verba at one? Rather? Yeah?

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Uh, how was that? I
So I only played the space Harrier

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part, and that that part you
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you're so excited that they made such
an extended homage to Space Harrier with a

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slight bit of afterburner thrown in.
But that sequence goes on way too fucking

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long. It's rediculous. Holy shit, Like does it just stop being fun

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at a certain point. Yeah,
you're like, I get it, it's

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got it. It's fucking Space Harrier. Wait, but I mean, are

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you saying that you wouldn't want to
just play news bas Harrier. I would,

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but they don't do anything. They
don't do enough with it. You

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know, it's they don't you know, it's just an extended sequence where you're

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like, yeah, okay, I'm
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there two of them, Okay,
Like you find like three separate bosses in

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the whole sequence, Like it's fucking
crazy. That's like a good two minute

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joke that just extends out to eight
or nine, if not more. But

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yeah, you know, we're playing
this Princess Peach and it makes bowser hands

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come out instead of the stuff.
Was that in the new one or they

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being out a one? Yeah,
they would and added stuff to one.

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Holy crab. That's that's that's intense. Yeah, you play with the pro

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controller. No, what do you
play with? Yeah? Campaign, really

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the buttons and everything are all in
the same exact position. It's just a

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matter of like, why can you
handle having Like it's not that it works.

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Used to play pso on the GameCube. But that thing that had the

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fucking keyboard in the middle of I
think it's like a foot apart. Oh

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wow, yeah, I don't know
what it was the same. That was

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totally thing. Yeah, it was
great. It was pretty great. It

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was real stupid but awesome that they
made it. Yeah, you know,

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just what else I don't know.
So I I got into war Frame,

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Yes, you did the hell So
this will be the second time today that

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we've had an extended conversation about war
Frame. I got into war Frame over

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the break. How did that happen? How did you get into war Frame?

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Get back into war Well, so
my girlfriend did most of the playing

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on Bayoneta, so you know,
she was playing on the TV, and

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I was like, well, I'm
gonna hang out over here and you know,

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kind of watching play a little bit
here, a little bit there,

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and uh, you know, and
then I ended up sitting there staring at

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Steam and war Frame had come up
a little bit in December. Uh,

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you know, I kind of think
I had messed with it a little bit

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before the break and came to the
realization that like, oh, it's like

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in some ways, it's like a
better game than Destiny, and it's extremely

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similar in some notable ways. I
seem to recall it's we did a quick

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look of it waiting. We did
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probably late twenty twelve, earlier twenty
thirteen, I think it was, you

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know, like our our date on
the side is like March twenty thirteen for

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I think that's for release. I
didn't know it's around that though. It

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was in Vada for that. I
remember just like some space. It kind

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of looked like dead space, but
more of a faster shooter. So all

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that shit is gone, really,
all the dead space like dark corridor stuff.

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Wait, what it is like that
environment? I have not seen it

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again. That was the entire game. Yeah, so now it's like planets

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and running around and facilities. There
are still ships, but the lighting is

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much better, like the there's a
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the environments and levels in that game. The core action is still very similar.

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You're still running around two weapons in
a melee attack third person came out.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, so like
that stuff is still in there,

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still sharp. They've added a lot
of content to it in terms of new

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war frames, which are basically,
you know their characters. You can equip

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whatever weapons you want on each of
them. But is a warframe a class

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sport? Yeah? Basic equivalent to
a class? Yeah, a warframe is

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a character. It's it's an appearance
and four abilities and some stats that are

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associated with it as well. Wait, does that mean you can swap war

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frames on the same character or are
you locked to you equip warframes just like

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you would equip a sword. There's
nothing, There is nothing under the warframe.

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You never see a human character that
you are bolting the warframe too.

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Okay, but the point is you
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same Yeah, okay, it's kind
of cool, and you rank up each

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piece of gear individually, like,
there are definitely things about it you look

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at very similar to Destiny, whereas
as you're leveling up your gun, it's

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you know, it's becoming more powerful, but also you know, you have

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some customization options there too, where
you're opening up more ability points that you

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can use to equip mods that'll do
things like okay, bigger magazine size,

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you know, faster fire rate.
You know, now it's doing ice damage

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like, you know, like different
sorts of things like that, and then

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you can fuse the mods together to
make them more powerful. So that system

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is not is not particularly well explained, even though they have simplified it over

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the last time we looked at it
a couple of years ago, Like it's

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that that part has been completely overhauled
since then. But that's the thing is,

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it's got to be a hard thing
for digital extremes or any developer of

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a game like this, I think, to manage is that balance between you

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know, creating the new player experience
in such a way that you're explaining all

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these systems versus quickly bolting things on
for your existing player base that already kind

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of gets it. And so I
think that that game is like Super Rough

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or a new player coming in there's
a threat on our boards for Giant bomb

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heavy Industries, the Warframe clan and
without without some folks in there, there

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are aspects of that game that would
not have made any sense to me at

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all. But yeah, you're going
on missions repeatable missions on you know,

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planets in our Solar system. There's
not a lot of story. They just

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kind of yell about some factions here
and there and some other fucking mystical bullshit.

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Like it is a lot like Destiny, but better in a few ways.

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For example, you don't have to
sit there and wait through a loading

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screen to go to town because all
of the kiosks you would find in town

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are part of your ship, so
you're just loaded back into that. When

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you're not in a mission. You
can go at social hubs if you want,

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and they're going to add reasons supposedly
for you to go there and pick

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up stuff, I guess, But
generally speaking, it's a little more streamlined

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than that experience. And also it's
a free to play game. You know,

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it's got its grind. You know, you can just go buy all

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the weapons with real money if you
want, or you can buy pass that.

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Is there a way to just like
pay a flat fee like fifty bucks

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or something like that and get a
pretty open experience. So yeah, pretty

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much, But it depends on what
you're looking for, because if you just

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want to stick with one class and
play it, you'll stop leveling up at

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a certain point, and that may, you know, kind of prevent you

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from seeing some of the end game
stuff. But generally speaking, like you'll

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be pretty fucking powerful, you won't
be able to unlock all the additional webso

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so they control they gate kind of
access to some stuff, even purchasing.

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You can't necessarily buy your way into
some gear until you have achieved like certain

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character like like account levels and account
XP has earned by you leveling up unique

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things. So there's a sword,
there's also Wolverine Claus's axes. Each of

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those has a level associated with them, and when you level those up,

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it contributes to your main level.
But if if all your gear is maxed,

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you're not gaining anything for your main
level. If you lose that bit

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of gear, do you know your
level stage lose gear, you can you

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might be able to trade some stuff, I guess, actually, but it's

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not like you lose four levels.
I don't think that's the case, but

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but I'm but I'm not sure.
So it kind of inspires you to when

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you hit kind of level thirty with
your with your war frame, you're like,

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Okay, well, I guess now
I need to level up another like

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character, basically another another class,
and you can you can craft those things.

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It seems like that's a real grind, but you can craft weapons,

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you can craft all that, all
that different stuff if you want. But

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that's like you know, you have
to get blueprints and then do this and

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then do that, and like that's
it's kind of an arduous process that then

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you know, like the last thing
I had to craft took thirty six hours

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to craft. So they put big
time or pay fifty platinum to rush to

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construction, so they fill it full
of that sort of stuff. But you

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know, there's a lot to play
there. They don't ever prevent you from

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playing the video game unless you pay
them money, so there is that aspect

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to it. But like there's just
shit in there. I didn't even realize

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they'd put in, Like you know, the mission I finished yesterday is the

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first arc Wing mission, which that
was the whole thing, like you have

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the big there was the thirty six
hour thing was was building these parts which

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I also had to craft, which
took six hours a piece into the arc

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Wing and then that gets deployed at
the end of the mission and all of

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a sudden, it is a space
shooter. Yeah, like I'm flying around

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open space with this thing strapped to
me shooting things down like it's it's it's

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pretty impressive. Like, you know, I don't, you know, I

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don't know. I can't. I
can't specifically say if the like price you

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pay to get around some of the
more bullshit humps that they put in there

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is worth it because there are so
many different ways to buy the plat platinum,

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which is the paid currency. There's
so many different ways to do that

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sort of stuff that you might be
able to find a way that works for

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you and makes sense for you personally. But you know, there's a lot

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of content there. It's it's definitely
come a long way. It's it's it's

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still a contender, Like it's still
one of the more played games on Steam.

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Yeah, that sounds like a completely
different game than what I remember.

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Mostly different games. Yeah, I
mean the core of it is the same.

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You know, you're still going to
these missions doing this sort of stuff.

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But it's just it's funny to me
that like like looking back at it

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now, uh, you know,
years later, Like it's Destiny in a

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lot of ways, sure, except
it supports four players instead of three.

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I've been playing on PC. But
yeah, it's on PS four and Xbox

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One now as well as up to
date. It is slightly behind the PC

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version on both consoles right now,
I think, but it is close.

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They used to have. There was
one point, like like last August,

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I think the versions lined up and
they did migration. If you wanted to

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migrate your PC character and copy it
to the PS four you could. But

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that's not available right now, and
I don't know if it'll ever be available

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again, if that was just something
they were doing that one time. But

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uh, yeah, I don't know. I'm a playing on PC. It

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looks really nice, it looks really
sharp, i'd like to say action.

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I thought it looked really good,
and when it came out, yeah,

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yeah, so i'd be curious to
see what the new levels and stuff looked

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like. Yeah, it was fun
to revisit it. And then I just

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I don't know, It's just it's
a game that I kind of fell into

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and it was just sort of like, well, you know, I don't

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know, I'm not really you know, I'm not on a holiday break.

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I don't want to take anything too
seriously. Fuck, I'll play some war

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Frame. Man. It was fun. It was fun not taking things too

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seriously. As how I managed to
play several hours as far right four over

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the Break and not advanced the storyline
one iota. So yeah, I did

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a fair amount of that as well. I've now taken over and you know,

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I did a lot of this stuff
when I reviewed it. But you

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know, I have all the outposts, saw the towers. I have crafted

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or I've crafted everything I had.
Are you upgrading that a house? Yeah?

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That is almost all the way upgraded. I keep pouring money into that.

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And like outside of like, oh
there's body armor in a fountain,

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I haven't really seen a whole lot
of like it's cool. Body armor in

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the helicopter? Are the two things
that are worth getting? How do you

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get the helicopter? You know,
a helipad, it's like four hundred thousand.

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You just get that, and then
there's always a helicopter there. Garden.

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I'm only missing like two things,
and I really need to get that.

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The garden is also useful because it's
got like like two or three of

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all the different types of herbs just
sitting right there. Yeah. Oh so

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you can just load up on craft
whatever syringe you want. Okay, when

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does that Key to the North mission
start, because I've done like eighteen out

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of thirty two main missions, and
I would have thought the Key to the

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North thing had opened up probably getting
there, okay, because I still have

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four health slots and you can't get
the six until you do that mission.

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So I have got to stop being
a perfectionist about the outpost in that game,

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though, yep, because every time
I get spotted, I just run

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off and come back like thirty minutes
later. There's one of the skills only

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unlocks if you get through two outposts
completely un undetected. So that's what I'm

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trying to get right now. Oh, you haven't done two, you've done

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one. Okay, we'll just go
back and do Outpost Master on the very

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first one. Oh it doesn't count. Yeah. Do you still get the

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bonus and stuff to XP and all
of it? What? Oh? Wow?

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I thought that stuff was only a
one time thing. Oh that's ridiculous.

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Well, I don't know if you
get the XP. I assume you

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do, Okay, but you could
at least for unlocking that at least unlock

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that skill, and that's the only
time you need the undetected stuff too.

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Okay, Yeah, I should just
go in there with the grenade launcher.

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Yeah, they'd probably do it.
Co op outposts elephants, Yeah, I

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just send a fucking elephant. The
elephant is so good in that game.

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I like loading up elephants to a
C four and then writing them in and

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then blowing up the elephant in the
middle of the base. That's pretty fun.

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How's the elephant fair in that transaction? Oh? It dies and then

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it's just a bunch of damage skin
that you can't do anything with. Although

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elephants you can't really do anything with
anyway. Well, so the one of

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the crafting one of the final like
Rare Animals, is a crazed elephant that

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you have to kill the flamethrower.
Crap alright, it's pretty fucked up.

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I just it is a very angry
elephant. Angry. I just did the

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Rare Rhino one last night, which, like the scenario they set up for

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that, it's pretty awesome because you
go pick up the like right shotgun they

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want you to use, but then
right down the road, the fucking rhino

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is just rampaging up a bridge,
knocking cars out of the car left and

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right. Yeah. Yeah, people, people are going ape shit and this

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rhino was just destroying like eight cars
in its path. Does that happen in

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Africa? Just like rhinos? Single
rhino stampede? Oh yeah. Actually I

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went and read the bio for that
rhino and it's like it was some giant

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rhino that they captured and tried to
incorporate into some reality show. Because if

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you look at the model, it's
got like there's like ropes tied to it

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and stuff where broke free of chers. Yeahs kind of an interesting is it

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white? Are you guys using the
grenade launchters the side arm? Yeah,

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that's the best thing in the world. Best just have the grenade launchtery as

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your side arm, because then when
you're driving around, like you'll pass the

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guy it's like, oh, here's
the carrier or here's a convoy. It's

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because I never used I've never used
the signs specifically because it's considered one one

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handed weapon. Is why it's so
good, because that's because they let you

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use it in vehicles as well.
Yeah. I chased to hawk around for

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like thirty minutes trying to like shoot
it with a grenade launcher in mid air,

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just for fun. It was great. And then I tried to chop

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it up with my blades. When
I ran out of grenades, No,

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it got away. Yeah, Like, I'll take out those Pagans convoys the

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procession of like three jeeps with Yeah, I'll just hop on a buzzer with

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a grenade launcher and just like soar
over him and just pop them off.

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It's it's super fun. I'll give
that a shot. I've just been using

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the DARPG for my explosives. Takes
too long to reload and everything, and

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again it's it's the driving one hand, it's the best and it makes that

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sound ef I did jump out of
a buzzer and land on a guy like

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did the stab animation and stuffy.
Wow, it's pretty awesome. That's pretty

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cool games. That's a good game. Yeah, it's a good game that

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I can't seem to commit to or
like do anything meaningful in. It's fun.

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It's just fun to fuck with.
You know, you're making progress all

409
00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:56.240
every step of the way, doing
little missions here and there, and then

410
00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:00.279
you know it's there's a lot to
get through. It's one of those is

411
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:06.480
where like the side stuff is fairly
forgettable in that it is different variations of

412
00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.960
the same mission over and over again. But you know, if you just

413
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:11.240
want to knock out some stuff,
have a good time, like maybe you

414
00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.440
have a good time along the way
in that right, it reminds me a

415
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:18.920
shadow of Mortar in that the core
gameplay loop, if you want to use

416
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.400
that phrase, like, is so
satisfying that having that repeated over and over

417
00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.200
kind of three dozen times for side
content is not that big a deal to

418
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:30.880
me. Like taking taking on a
handful of guys around the building is fun

419
00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.160
in that game, so right if
I if I do it in service of

420
00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.559
rest going a hostage or like popping
a balloon or whatever the fuck they want

421
00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:40.559
me to do, like, it's
still fun, you know. See,

422
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:42.759
I haven't gotten tired of those things. It's the Shanker law missions. I

423
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.319
don't really do it for me.
Yeah, I did two of them and

424
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.119
I haven't done the rest that they're
not required. Oh I thought those would

425
00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.039
be all part of the story warriors
journey or something. The first one is

426
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:56.079
and that's it. Oh wow.
I mean they try to introduce new things

427
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:59.640
like the five arrow bow or whatever, but I don't know like that the

428
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.119
tiger thing isn't that much fun,
and like the new from hot Chest part

429
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.200
two. Yeah, yeah, man, chicken, did you finish all I'm

430
00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:10.920
wondering if you get something cool again, because I kind of want to finish

431
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:12.839
the thank on the wall in your
house. I've got like three out of

432
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:17.519
the five or whatever done. That's
all I've got. When you fill out

433
00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:18.839
the whole left side of the skill
tree, something pops up and it says

434
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:23.119
deal double damage permanently. Oh so
you should fill out the left side of

435
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:27.599
the skills. Yeah. By the
way, I was thinking all the way

436
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.319
back to the quick look, I
play that game with headphones on a lot.

437
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.079
Yeah, there is a tiger roar
when you highlight those skills. Yep.

438
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.559
Yeah, it's just very quiet.
Yeah. Yeah, it's not as

439
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:38.039
loud as the out no, but
it is. It is there. Yeah.

440
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:41.720
It's a good game. Yeah,
yeah, that is a lot of

441
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.920
I did play some of that.
I played some more Call of Duty.

442
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.240
I prestige. I did not want
Iced Tea to think ill of me,

443
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.599
so so I reset. I'm back
to about level seven. He out there

444
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.839
throwing shade on I. Just years
ago. He had some very pointed things

445
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.799
to say about people that do not
presstige. If he still plays, you

446
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.160
know, I haven't seen him talk
about games and in quite some time.

447
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:07.240
I'm not currently following him. No, yeah, he used to do like

448
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.079
YouTube und boxings and stuff like Gre's
a War three special edition, like yeah,

449
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:11.599
yeah, I haven't seen as much
of that. I don't know he's

450
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:17.880
he has a podcast now that I
subscribed to because he there's an episode where

451
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.599
he's interviewing Cool Keith and I really
want to saw that. Yes, I

452
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:22.680
saw that. I wanted to hear
Cool Keith speak, but I've not listened

453
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.039
to it yet. But yes,
the Final Level podcast is out there.

454
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.920
How many how many Cool Keith person
personas are there? I mean, if

455
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:37.519
you want to talk about ones that
have been represented in album form, there's

456
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.000
a lot. But then there's another
dozen or so that get rattled off in

457
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:47.079
a music video where he's just like
orange Man, the kid from the video,

458
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.880
you know, like you know,
just doesn't even get into rhythm X

459
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:56.440
and Tayshawn Dorsett, right, doctor
doctor going and uh one Cliff yeah,

460
00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:06.039
doctor doctor gone, doctor Doom Clift, Televasquez Clift or Clifton Santiago. No,

461
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:11.200
No, he's not Clifton Santiago.
That's the other guy. Uh yeah,

462
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.759
there's a lot cool Keith and the
Master of Hip Hop World. They're

463
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.519
all great names. Yes, she
certainly are. Next tun of fifty one

464
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:26.200
game, Yeah, the smake Master
Drew. Hey, Hello, I what

465
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.880
did you do the last two weeks? Oht of a lot of nothing,

466
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.920
A lot of hold up in a
cabin and tahoe with my folks. Uh

467
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:38.599
and playing games. A lot of
old games, not a lot of recent

468
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:45.880
stuff, those fancy electrical games about
half half and half. Yeah, I

469
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.839
uh went so, like all my
old consoles are up there. Uh So

470
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.200
whenever we go back, we always
played old stuff. Me my brother went

471
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.599
through our Genesis Baseball games to see
which one was the best. I don't

472
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:03.000
know yet ict no no verdict out
on the list we went back. We

473
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.160
remember liking that one a lot,
but it's also one of the first.

474
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:10.680
Yeah, that game was practically a
launch game. I remember this. It

475
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:15.279
still looks really good, Like it's
one of those games that like, uh,

476
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.839
it doesn't go outside of its capabilities
in terms of graphics, and it

477
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.000
still looks pretty good. That game
is hard, especially for the batter,

478
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:26.559
and that's where it kind of falls
apart. So we played World Series Baseball

479
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:32.680
instead, which is it does not
look nearly as good. Yeah, but

480
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.680
pitching and batting are a little evenly
more evenly mashed there. Also, I

481
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.839
realized we played Gunstar Heroes, and
I realized I had never actually beaten Gunstar

482
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:45.960
Heroes. It gets hard, it
gets really hard, but like I loved

483
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.319
that game, and we kept like
playing and playing and I was like,

484
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:49.000
I don't remember this level, and
he's like, yeah, have you not

485
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:53.200
beaten Gunstar Heros? And I finally
did. Now I've beaten Gunstar Heroes.

486
00:29:53.359 --> 00:30:00.680
So that was New Year's resolution began
and ended. It's gonna done. I

487
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:04.680
had an Xbox One up there,
so we've played a lot of Jackbox Excellent.

488
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.160
Yeah. That was. If I
had played more of that game by

489
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.240
the time I wrote my list,
that would have been way up there.

490
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:11.880
Really. Oh yeah, yeah that
was. That was a big hit at

491
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.839
my parents house. I ended up
playing a little bit of it over Twitch

492
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:18.559
and it worked. I seen a
lot of people talking about that, but

493
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.559
I thought that the delay on Twitch
would cause it. It means that you

494
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.480
have to be faster on your ship
than normal. But you know the phone

495
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.880
changes when it's ready to go regardless, so you know, you just see

496
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.960
the phone change to entering your answer. It puts the question there, so

497
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.000
you don't need to look at the
stream to get what you need to get.

498
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.640
Did you just tweet out the room
code and tell people like, hey

499
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:42.160
joined this, few want too?
Or it was a random people? Was

500
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.039
no, no, it wasn't.
But but you could theoretically do it with

501
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.160
random people. I think one of
those games supports up to one hundred,

502
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:49.799
like hundred people. That's the lie
Swatter one. I want to say.

503
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:56.079
It's not great. Yeah, no, we only played a fibbage and some

504
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.680
of that. The two Yeah,
yep, yeah, you don't know Jack.

505
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.640
Still it's still is solid. It's
the classic. Yeah, that's it's

506
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:10.079
it's real tough for the first game
someone who's never played it before. This

507
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.160
is like a lot of like all
right, this is what the screw is

508
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.759
and this is what the secret message
is and blah blah blah blah. Yeah.

509
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.440
The people I was playing with pick
that stuff up pretty fast. But

510
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:22.680
Brown three I ran every single round
three. I think it's purely like a

511
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.480
reflex, just like hammer on the
button thing. Yeah, like even like

512
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:27.839
they knew most of the answers they
judge, they just weren't getting it.

513
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:32.240
In you know. Yeah, I
mean you've also got to kind of understand

514
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:34.000
the writing a little bit. It's
not you know, it's not Jeopardy.

515
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:38.319
It's not like sure super straightforward.
But yeah, that was fun. Played

516
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:45.400
some Halo the master Chief Collection offline
mode. Yeah, just the campaign stuff,

517
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:51.599
no, the local local multiplayer.
So yeah, so my brother and

518
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.880
sister and I have a like custom
game type that we always played together on

519
00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:00.519
the original Xbox with Halo one,
and so we recreated that and totally worked.

520
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.519
Yeah, it's fantastic master Chief Collection
to doing. It's what it's supposed

521
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:09.880
to do. Yeah. I have
not checked in since the break with the

522
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.319
multiplayer. I hear it's a little
better, but I haven't Still, I

523
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.400
haven't seen a lot of complaints lately. So either they fixed it or people

524
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.440
gave up. I'm not sure.
Yeah, they they gave some stuff away.

525
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.680
Yeah, that's that'll a lot to
come up, man, A lot

526
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.839
of people get some stuff away recently. But the rest of it was was

527
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.720
board games or I guess non non
video. We played some Resistance, which

528
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:35.759
was great. There's another family we
know up there and we got together with

529
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:37.880
them and played like nine person Resistance. That was pretty fun or ten.

530
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:42.480
I think, wow, is that
Avalon? Or they have several unders that

531
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.319
similar similar to Avalon, a little
more basic, like Avalon has the rules

532
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:51.799
with like Merlin stuff. This is
very much just like bad people knew who

533
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:53.960
they are, good people don't.
That's it. But like by the time,

534
00:32:54.079 --> 00:33:00.400
like Resistance, I think like Avalon
feels very much like a sponsor to

535
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:05.000
the Resistance or like an updated version
because like Resistance, you get into a

536
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:09.480
like a rut, like spies always
win, uh with this many people,

537
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:13.519
and then with this many people the
Resistance always win. So like by the

538
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.680
end of it, we were trying
to figure out ways to like switch it

539
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.400
up a little bit. But I
feel like maybe nine people I think we

540
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.279
were playing with we're playing with ten. I think nine people would probably be

541
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.240
best because it's like with ten,
there's just way too many spies and it's

542
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.559
just a yeah, they just win
all the time. But another game we

543
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:36.400
played a lot of was a Memoir
forty four. It's a World War two

544
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:44.079
game Hexes. It's not don't freak
out too late. It's pretty good.

545
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.960
It's like it's like x Com but
with World War two and on a board

546
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:57.279
and one and the one that actually
like caught our attention the most was Hanabi.

547
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:02.559
It's a it's a game where you're
trying to assemble the world's best firework

548
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:08.679
display, but it's all with cards. So like you, you're dealt like

549
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:14.000
five cards each, but you don't
look at them. You flip your hand

550
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:19.280
over and then show everybody else,
and then everyone else goes around and tries

551
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:28.000
to determine one who to tell information
and two what information that can be.

552
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.920
So, for example, if if
it's my turn and I see that Dan

553
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.480
has like a really valuable card,
I can say one of two things,

554
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.559
the color of the card or the
numerical value of the card. That's it.

555
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.880
That's the only two things you can
say, right, okay, And

556
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:50.559
then from there he can determine either
to discard a card or play a card.

557
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.920
Basically, what you're trying to do
is like make a solitaire board.

558
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.519
Like everyone it's cooperative games, so
everyone together is making a solitaire board.

559
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.039
So you're not trying to get valuable
cards away from other people or something.

560
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:04.559
No, no, no, it's
cooperative. So Dan can either choose to

561
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:08.440
discard a card or play one.
If he discards a card, it could

562
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:15.079
like he could be correct in assuming
that it's discardable, and if he doesn't,

563
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.800
there are only a certain number of
cards available, so he could discard

564
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.920
like a really rare card and we
would be totally screwed. Or he can

565
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:24.000
decide, all right, I'm gonna
play this card because I think it's a

566
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:28.639
three or whatever, and if he's
wrong, you lose one of your lives

567
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.960
and you're going out like five lives
or maybe four. So it's it's a

568
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.559
lot of like trying to remember what
people have told you and trying to tell

569
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:42.840
people stuff, uh without really telling
them. It's like, hey, this

570
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:49.400
one is a four because you can
only you have very limited opportunities to tell

571
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:54.679
people information, so you've got to
make account. It's it's it's a great

572
00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:00.000
game. Complicated, It's it's not. Actually I'm yeah making it sound a

573
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.639
little more complicated, or it sounds
like it requires a decent amount of like

574
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:08.079
focus, memory and information recall it's
sorts of variety. Yeah, maybe probably

575
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:15.199
that it's it's it's basically it's basically
UNO, but your hands are flipped around

576
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:22.320
and you're cooperating. When did the
fireworks come out? Uh at theah?

577
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.840
Yeah, that's that's that's way better
than the un but with your pants down

578
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:29.039
that I'm used to on Xbox Live. Oh yeah, I don I got

579
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:32.639
pretty far with that Xbox Live.
Who knows? Gone? I like the

580
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:37.440
original Uno. That's crazy. I
mean, you know, it's a type

581
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.199
of license they could run out.
One of the first things I saw when

582
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.760
I bought the Vision Camera and played
UNO on Xbox three sixty was a man

583
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.039
in a full Spider Man suit masturbating. Wow, that's pretty good. I

584
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:52.760
saw Canadians doing cocaine. It's also
pretty good. Man, Who knows that?

585
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.199
Weird? I'm kind of sad.
I actually actually don't have a great

586
00:36:55.239 --> 00:37:00.519
like you know, with the Xbox
camera story. Not really. They should

587
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.719
have put out a new UNO one, they really, they really. I

588
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.360
don't know that you could ever really
recapture the magic. I mean, you

589
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.119
know, it's just fucking fun.
You play on the internet. Sure,

590
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.920
oh sure with like friends. Sure, but I have like a camera view

591
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:15.599
here too, Sure, why not? But the novelty of having the view

592
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.639
and other people's room, Yeah has
worn off at this point totally. That's

593
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.639
now now you just have whole products
that are devoted to that. Yeah.

594
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:27.639
We don't get me wrong. I'll
play Muno anytime, but that that certain

595
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.960
brand of absurdity that came along with
that stuff is kind of everywhere now.

596
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.239
So I remember thinking the vision camera
was going to be like a new standard

597
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.719
for like all multiplayer games, because
like I remember Caman of Conquer three had

598
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.559
that so you and you can see
the other person's face, and I remember,

599
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.039
cool, It's like, oh yeah, burned out. Just having great

600
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.360
use of that was maybe the best
that nu. It was kind of cool

601
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.679
though, like if you send like
a huge you know, rush to someone's

602
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:52.920
base and you see their reaction,
like, oh crap, I gotta deal

603
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.159
with this, Like that was kind
of a cool novelty. And I remember

604
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.800
thinking like, oh man, like
Mortal Kombats and street Fighters are gonna use

605
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.960
this, and this is gonna be
a new thing, and never really took

606
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.480
off. I did not want that, Oh god, no, I was

607
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:07.480
like an antisocial like online gamer,
your game, guys, I don't want

608
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:13.400
turn off m M put an action
figure there. Yeah, okay, I'm

609
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.480
batman. I pointed mind to the
ceiling most of the time when I was

610
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.039
playing, you know, and stuff
like that, because depending it just you

611
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.400
know, you gotta scope it out. See like, okay, are these

612
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.440
people like all right kind of all
right, all right, here's my face.

613
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.159
Okay, all right, you guys
get to see my face. But

614
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.440
I'm still not wearing a headset.
Fuck you. I only ever played it

615
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.559
with people I knew, So solve
that problem. That's how I like to

616
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.800
play games online, to get out
there and you know, get out there

617
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.239
the esports uno. Yeah, you
don't play ranked? Yep, get serious?

618
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:46.039
Yep. What's Roger Gotham deck?
What's your MMR? Tell me twelve?

619
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:52.440
It is a very high school game
that hundred okay, Jason, Yo,

620
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:58.519
Hello, I spent I spent my
holiday depressed on my couch, also

621
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.880
freezing on my ouch. I used
to mock people that so that they got

622
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.119
cold and like, you know,
sub fifty degree weather, and I found

623
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.960
myself getting soft. Was that here? Man? It was like thirty four

624
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.599
degrees at night here? What it
got down to? Yeah, that's right.

625
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:15.159
I think there were a couple of
days when I was out there that

626
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.320
I was looking at the weather and
it was colder here than it was out

627
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.360
there. Yeah, they were definitely
like you know, like it'd get to

628
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:22.719
be about nine o'clock and you'd be
like you. You'd look and be like,

629
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:27.440
oh, it's thirty five degrees.
He's in dropping that's dangerous. Nobody

630
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.280
out here is equipped for it.
You lived in Minnesota, Jason, I

631
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:31.599
know, I don't know what happened
already, soft this quick, Dan,

632
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.679
What did I just say? What? Nobody out here is equipped for it?

633
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:38.920
Houses are drafty, the heating is
not great, like it's just covers

634
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:44.559
and you put yeah, yeah,
but dude, thirty five degrees. It's

635
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:46.440
three. So I put on layers
right, and I'm like, I can't

636
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.400
I can't deal with it anymore.
I'm gonna turn on the heat. I'm

637
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.599
gonna do it. I'm just gonna
turn on the heat. Fired that thing

638
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:57.559
up, smell the burning, you
know. Yeah. And then first time

639
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.000
of the year that you turned it
on, like yeah, the first time

640
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:05.679
ever in our out of the year. Yeah. About a half hour later,

641
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:07.400
I'm like, I don't know if
this is doing anything. It wasn't.

642
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:12.920
It was just blowing cold air,
like right directly where I sit.

643
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.280
And then I'm like, well,
I'll screw this and I'll put it in

644
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:16.320
a call to the maintenance or whatever, and I'll turn it off. I

645
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:20.760
want to go turn it off and
it won't shut off. This is during

646
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.760
the holidays, so for three days
cold, They're blowing right on my face

647
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.360
and I'm like, oh man,
that's wretched. It was the worst.

648
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:30.840
There hasn't been a single day since
I moved to San Francisco that I've slept

649
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.159
with the windows closed. I leave
my windows open at night. Really,

650
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.760
yeah, it's great. I got
over that real quick. Really, I'm

651
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:37.760
on the sunset. It's supposed to
be colder out there. I don't know.

652
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:43.440
I don't know. I'm nice here, but uh yeah. Other than

653
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.920
that, I got some good Christmas
presents stuff. It was. It was

654
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:51.440
depressing because we normally go uh down
to Atlanta and Florida to visit family and

655
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:52.280
stuff, and we didn't this year. We're gonna do it in a couple

656
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:57.559
of weeks. So uh yeah,
my holiday was spent drunk and freezing.

657
00:40:58.039 --> 00:40:59.920
Yeah, you know, that's a
good way to stay warm. When when

658
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.199
year my heater broke and I had
I had a Christmas A lot like that,

659
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:06.800
had a December a lot like that. It was broken for a kind

660
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:12.320
of a while. Fuck no fun, right, no, no, there

661
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:14.599
was, yeah, there was that
situation. Then I then one year,

662
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.760
like the power was out for two
and a half days after a storm,

663
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.679
and you know, obviously the same
situation. No beat. It's just like

664
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.280
holy shit, like I'm bundling up
to go to bed and still shivering,

665
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:29.440
like this is it's no good.
It's no good. That happened to be

666
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:31.719
at my parents house several I forget
when several years ago they had a big

667
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.480
guy storm out there, no power
five days plus they have a well.

668
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.559
So no power means no running water. Oh that's no heat, no power,

669
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:40.920
no running water for the better part
of a week. I lived.

670
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.199
I lived on a farm North Branch, Minnesota, and I was probably like

671
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:46.920
eight years old or something like that, and my dad like moved us out

672
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:51.199
to the country because he fancied himself
a farmer. He grew at like LFL

673
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.199
for or something. But this place
was a dump, Like seriously, there

674
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.320
was no running water. There was
an outhouse. We actually we we like

675
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:01.440
pissed in a bucket upstairs and we
put a disco duck record over the top

676
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.800
of that. That that's my that's
that's my one memory, like a couple

677
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.239
of years. That's maybe one of
the few appropriate uses of disco duck.

678
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.880
Yeah, I think so I didn't
know there was a disco duck before Disco

679
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.320
Inferno had that duck he carried around. Yeah, what's what's the older disco

680
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:20.360
duck? It's a song? Yeah, the radio DJ recorded as a novelty

681
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:22.800
hit, like a monster mash type
thing. Yeah, ok, yeah,

682
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:28.800
were your fingers two? Frozen and
gnar old? To play video games,

683
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:31.880
I did play some video games stuff. I tried like hell to play Guilty

684
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:37.159
Gear. Unfortunately I could only play
it offline because PSN was down for entirety,

685
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:40.480
which sucks super bad. And like
whenever i'd boot up Guilty Gear,

686
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.000
the game itself with freeze whenever we
would try and like you know, pick

687
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.960
the network or whatever. So I
did take the entire console offline to play

688
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:51.880
it. But other than that,
man, we played actually a lot of

689
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:53.960
you don't know, jack, like
a New Year's Eve. My wife had

690
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:58.159
never really played it that much,
so we booted up New Year's Eve night

691
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:00.039
and you know, Cookie comes in. It's like, oh, you losers,

692
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:05.599
you're playing on New Year's Eve and
she just lost her mind. Twenty

693
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.000
years It's like he's talking right to
me. How did he know? But

694
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.400
that was fun. I was when
we were playing. You know, they

695
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.559
rolled the credits after every game you
play. Yeah, I forget what the

696
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.719
phrasing was, but there was a
credit in there for something like announcer and

697
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:22.280
there was a name there that was
not Cookie Masterson. Oh, And I

698
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.039
was like, I really hope I
didn't just learn Cookie Masterson's real name.

699
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:30.320
The illusion was shattered. It's Cookie
Masterson. It is Cookie Masterson. God

700
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.400
damn it. It's all He's on
it and it always will be. Yeah,

701
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:35.760
I agree, Oh yeah, jack
Box. I. You know,

702
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.239
it seemed like a lot of people
raised their eyebrows a little bit at the

703
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:44.679
selection of that game as a local
multiplayer Game of the Year awards. But

704
00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.800
I feel like the value of that
thing was truly proven over the holidays,

705
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:51.440
when you had a lot of people
together and a lot of alcohol being consumed.

706
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.119
It's great and it's you know,
it's the sort of thing that just

707
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:59.039
about anyone can play. Yeah,
it's totally you know, like you know,

708
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:00.400
like every year I've I've been there
with like seen at the movie,

709
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.519
trivia game and all this other shit, you know, or like guitar here

710
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.159
or whatever. Is always like they're
like, oh, yeah, sure,

711
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:08.599
you're your video game that's that's great. You know, nobody wanted to mess

712
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:12.360
with it. But like the second
I told everybody that was around that you

713
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:14.599
could just whip out your phone and
play this game, like, people were

714
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.239
super stoked. Yeah, you know, it's a really easy sell. Like

715
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:20.400
that I learned is that heads up
game on iPhone, the one I think

716
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.920
like Ellen like funded it or something. It's the thing where like you hold

717
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.039
the phone up your head. It's
like the old game where you'd have a

718
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.440
thing written on an index card and
you hold up to your head. The

719
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.719
person you're playing with, like your
partner has to describe you is or it's

720
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.519
tarades or maybe it's a movie or
whatever. Yeah, and it's it's on

721
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:37.280
iOS and it works so well,
and they're like records it the whole time,

722
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:38.719
so if there's funny reactions or whatever, you can watch them. And

723
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:42.800
it's just an easy sell on a
group of people who wouldn't normally play video

724
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.920
games, like yeah, two seconds
tricks playing and people love. It's like

725
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.079
password or something. Yeah, and
you buy different decks, so it's like

726
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:50.480
okay, now I'm gonna buy the
deck of these you know, Hollywood classics.

727
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:52.599
Now IM gonna buy the Deck of
the movie Trivia, So it's pretty

728
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:57.480
great. People like and are comfortable
with their phones. Yeah, seriously,

729
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.119
Like, I'm gonna try to play
some Jackbox stuff with my in laws I

730
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.119
when we go down to you to
Florida, because they're like absolutely afraid of

731
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.880
anything technology based, but the phones
they couldn't live without. So I think

732
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.280
if yeah, I think they might
ease them into it a little bit more.

733
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:14.079
I ended up spending some time with
phone games, yeah, a little

734
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:15.719
bit over the break, just kind
of had some time here and there.

735
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.480
Did you play the Marvel I did. I was so, you know,

736
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.079
I spent time kind of making sure
that the I think a few of us

737
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:27.760
probably spent time in the back end
tools every day while Game of the Year

738
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.800
stuff was going up, just hammering
in the last bits of it out or

739
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.360
making sure it was working properly.
And I scrolled down to like what are

740
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.599
the top wiki objects right now?
And there was just something that they said,

741
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:42.360
Marvel Contest of Champions, Like what
the fuck is that? Click through

742
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.119
and see it's some fucking iPhone game. God great, a free to play

743
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.679
fighter. Yeah, and we have
nothing at all on and on the side

744
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:51.400
except for like the images where ever, so I'm like, well, what

745
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:54.920
is this, went and downloaded.
It's fighting game. They're like, okay,

746
00:45:54.920 --> 00:46:00.280
all right, fighting games like fighting
games them. I'm intrigued, yap

747
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.519
uh and and played a little bit
of it. It's not it's quaint,

748
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.840
it's cute. How about that.
Yeah, it's well made for like they

749
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.320
they know, you know, they
found a way to make the touch controls

750
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:15.559
for a fighting game work on a
phone by making your options extremely limited.

751
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.239
You know, you have like basically
three different attacks and the supers you just

752
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.880
tap the meter to do a super
No. No, no, it's a

753
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:29.440
real time action game. It more
dive kicky. Then I mean, do

754
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.079
you move your character directly? No? No, you so basically like your

755
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:35.519
your movement and blocking is on the
left side of the screen. So if

756
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.239
you hold on the left left side
of blocks, swipe left, he'll back

757
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:43.599
dash, swipe forward you'll you'll dash
in an attack, and the right side

758
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.039
basically you've got you know, tap
for light, swipe for medium, hold

759
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:50.039
to charge up a heavy and then
heavy's brick blocks. Okay, so there's

760
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.480
no like jumping in or anything.
Nope, okay, and then when your

761
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.599
super meter fills up, you tap
that to do a super It reminds me

762
00:46:55.639 --> 00:47:00.440
of the Injustice Fighting game on Yeah, it was totally very simil Yeah,

763
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.480
yeah, very very similar. It's
it's what I'm expecting that w W E.

764
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.079
Immortals to be like, since that's
also on the other realm, so

765
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.000
I figured it'll be something like that. But then and then you unlocked your

766
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:14.320
level two Spider Man or whatever.
Yeah, I got like found like a

767
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.960
level three Go Mora and like a
level two Wolverine and and it's like,

768
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.519
all right, all three on three
three person team and it's full of all

769
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.480
the most rotten free to play energy
meters and all this other stuff along the

770
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.280
way and crystals and daily Crystal and
come back for your daily crystal. Buy

771
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.920
a crystal and maybe you'll get a
you know, roll the dice and maybe

772
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:37.599
you'll get something worth a ship and
these the ISO eight Yeah, like Marvel

773
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.840
Universe brings your level up and you
know, like all that stuff is pretty

774
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.039
rotten, but like the core of
it, I was actually I thought it

775
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.000
looked really nice, yeah, for
a for like a Nios game, like

776
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:51.519
just visually, I thought the animation
there's character models and stuff look pretty good.

777
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.719
Made me want another Marvel Ultimate Alliance
really bad, Like the models reminded

778
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.800
me of them, I think a
little bit. Yeah, little side story,

779
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:00.639
sorry, we just think about that
game though, is that as soon

780
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.239
as you log into it, it
connects to a chat room and the bottom

781
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.519
two lines on the screen you're devoted
to chat at all times. I'm sure

782
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:14.400
that goes well. And it's just
this just spew of fucking trash of It's

783
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:19.119
like it it's this mix of just
like racial epithets, various cursing, all

784
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.480
of them misspelled and stretched out to
get around the you know, kind of

785
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:27.440
real basic word filter. It's it's
it's like it seemed like it was maybe

786
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:31.920
sixty percent of that and forty percent
people saying yeah I'm eleven, which I

787
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:37.840
feel like that's a really good winning
combination there. What I find the reason

788
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.159
why would you have that in there? I don't know, like looking for

789
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.239
group or what. I don't know
if you can directly it has multiplayer,

790
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:46.920
but I don't know if you can
directly challenge someone from there, or if

791
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:51.480
just the quick match or is it
business guy like, yeah, like we

792
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.119
need to make this hot and social. Kabayim all right? I find I

793
00:48:55.119 --> 00:49:00.679
find when you're drinking from the hose
of internet shit. Uh that it helps

794
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.199
to assume everyone is eleven. Yeah, and then it makes a lot more

795
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.440
sense. Yeah, I guess so. But then you realize they aren't and

796
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:12.840
you get sad. Yeah, yeah, it is what it is. Hey,

797
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.199
I got a new video card?
Oh yeah, yes, did you

798
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.679
get I got a nine eight nice? Yeah, welcome to the nine eighty

799
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:22.559
clubs. I like it here.
I've never had a top of the line

800
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:27.920
video card before, and now my
world is jazz. I love I love

801
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:32.880
life. I'm jealous. Yeah.
Quake three runs so good? Oh she

802
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:36.599
guys, I'm sure you guys saw
that quake running on in a soloscope video?

803
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.119
Yeah, that looks so good that
do you remember Memory of a Broken

804
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:45.639
Dimension? Yeah, that's what that
same quake running on a soloscope remind me.

805
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:52.320
Uh so, I got all yeah, I want to play that game.

806
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.360
That that thing blew my mind.
It looks so cool. Like watching

807
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:59.239
it, I immediately did you look
at how he did it? Like basically

808
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:00.639
like because there's a but in the
video where you see it running on a

809
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.320
computer, you know, it's like
they're basically es basically like from what I

810
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.559
could tell, like sort of hashing
the level geometry into like an audio stream.

811
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:13.039
It said like, yeah, geometry
converted to ninety six killers. Yes,

812
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:15.079
right, white, and then the
soul scope is basically drawing a way

813
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:20.000
form the corresponds to the audio generated
from the three D space. Yeah,

814
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.360
I want to hear what quakes sounds? Yeah? Yeah, I think he

815
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:23.920
says on the how he did it
page like that. You can listen to

816
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:28.320
it and it sounds like terrifying or
nails, isn't it? Yeah? Something

817
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:30.400
sure, I mean it's the soundtrack
that fits. Yeah, that will stand

818
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:35.599
of reasons right there. You know. Oh man, hey Dan, Hey

819
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:37.519
Brad, tell me about your holiday, Brad, I did a lot of

820
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:42.519
things. Yeah, this this is
the first day since like the twenty second

821
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:46.480
of December that I haven't just been
wall to wall doing something or completely bedridden

822
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:51.159
sick. So it's it's been a
lot of eventful days. I don't even

823
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:52.519
really know where to start there.
Does it feel like a vacation when you

824
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.320
do that? Not really, because
that's kind of the vacation I had to

825
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.199
where it's like every single day you
were busy with something, and no,

826
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.159
I feel like this is my vacation
now to where I can actually relax and

827
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:04.599
get back into the swing of things. I'm not like drinking every night and

828
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.360
stuff and running around and flying.
And yeah, this is me relaxing for

829
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:12.239
the first time in like two or
three weeks. So yeah, it's been

830
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.000
good. I spent a week in
Kansas. Actually just put up today on

831
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:20.039
the website a four hour podcast with
my dad that that turned out to be

832
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:25.320
really fun. Premium content. Yes, premium content. The very first thing

833
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:29.880
on the site in twenty fifteen,
Like it's my dad drinking whiskey and bullshitting

834
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:35.679
for four hours. This podcast is
embossed and foil stamped. Is the most

835
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:38.599
premium thing on the website. Yes, ye did that? Did you do

836
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.920
that all in one shot or was
that like collected over a course of several

837
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.199
days or something. No, we
did one the first night or we just

838
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:47.239
sat on the floor and drank a
bunch of whiskey and talked for two two

839
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.280
and a half hours, and then
on Christmas night we kind of reflected on

840
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:53.920
Christmas and all other things and drink
more. And I gotta hear that it

841
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:58.480
was I think it turned out really
good, like Christmas in general, or

842
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:02.480
like you know, record Christmas that
sounds that's kind of existential. We kind

843
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.840
of cover everything, and it's just
kind of fun because I don't know,

844
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:07.320
Me and him have kind of a
natural report because it turns out we've known

845
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.000
each other for a while. So
yeah, it's just kind of cool to

846
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:15.000
have that stuff kind of recorded because
we have some fun conversations. But yeah,

847
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.400
it's been a week there, got
real sick near the end, which

848
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.440
carried over and to me coming back
here. My sister visited for a week

849
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.519
and so we did like all the
tourists the San Francisco stuff, most of

850
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:28.239
which I hadn't done yet since I
still kind of conser myself new to the

851
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.679
city, Like did Alcatraz, Almatraz
so cool. I loved. I was

852
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:37.039
really especially being a fan of the
Rock. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

853
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.199
between watching The Rock and the Alcatraz
Tony Hawk level, I had a

854
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:44.360
full time at Alcatraz. Yes,
but it's actually done so well to where

855
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.239
it's so many like historical sites.
When you do a tour of them,

856
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:49.679
it's some guys like all right,
now we're gonna look at this, and

857
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:52.360
this happens. This happens now.
If you'll follow me over here there you

858
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:54.079
get the audio tour thing, so
you know, it says stand here in

859
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:58.280
press play, but at any point
you can hit stop and you're just kind

860
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:00.679
of free to walk around the whole
damn or island. You can go outside

861
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:05.159
and walk around and go up to
the medical wing or like it's awesome,

862
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.320
like we did the whole audio tour, but then we just hung out for

863
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.000
a while and just walked around the
cells. And you can go into the

864
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:13.360
solitary confinement cubes and stuff and read
about the guys who you know, almost

865
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.760
escape or maybe did. Yeah,
they were there. There were there was

866
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:17.119
this famous escape the three guys.
Yeah that like, oh they don't know

867
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:21.320
if they drowned or whatever, but
there was like some new study done on

868
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:24.599
that escape to like trying to pass
a final verdict on whether they lived or

869
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:28.159
not. Oh wow, I forget
what they said. I was pretty happy

870
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.480
that they also sold copies of the
Rock and the gift shop, so that

871
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:35.079
was pretty nice, like especially embossed
or something like I have two I have.

872
00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:38.280
It's not like an Alcatraz special edition. I've got the Criterion Collection DVD

873
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:43.920
and I also just got them blue
right there should there should be a special

874
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:47.559
version of the Rocks that you can
sign by Alcatraz. Mister Alcatraz. Yeah,

875
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:51.280
No, it was great. Uh
you know it's just ex Alcatraz.

876
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:54.440
She she's twenty one now, so
this is like the first time we were

877
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:58.320
actually able to like go out to
bars and stuff together. And so I

878
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.360
took her to hood Slam. That
was a hood Slam sick. Uh.

879
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:07.519
Yeah, everyone goes to hood Slam
sick, Brad, No one leaves well.

880
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:13.440
Yeah. On three separate occasions,
Roseph Joe Brody brought his his whiskey

881
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.079
bottle over and poured it straight down
me and my sister's face. Wait out

882
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.840
my nose. Whiskey went straight up
my nose while I was sick. Which

883
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:22.119
if you want to feel great,
have a bunch of mucus and whiskey all

884
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.079
three of your sinuses. So that's
a real good feeling. I mean it

885
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:28.840
seems like it would clear him out. No, No, it just makes

886
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.440
it real gross and you blow your
nose. What I want to know if

887
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:36.480
you know what mister brody Is preferred
brand of crowd whiskey is, It's Jack

888
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:38.480
Daniels. But I think he puts
some tape over it, like Seine filled

889
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:43.199
it up, so you can't out
of the logo or whatever. Yeah,

890
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:50.599
that's the thing to worry about.
The brand of They have a code word

891
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:52.480
for if the cops raid the place. Yeah, blueberry pancakes. Yes,

892
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:59.960
yeah, yeah, no, so
isn't it also had actual Thanks too,

893
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.079
mister Brodie oh for helping with the
Game of the Year Stiff. Yeah,

894
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:06.400
that was a lot of fun and
it hurt a lot doing that. Wrestling

895
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.000
training legitimately hurt. Like all these
like wrestling dorks like me like to think,

896
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:12.119
like because we always have to defend
the industry and be like, no,

897
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:14.360
these guys are really getting hurt like
that. That rings harder than you

898
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:15.960
think it is. And so like
smarks as they call us, like to

899
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:19.559
think, we know how much it
hurts. Then it's take an actual like

900
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.199
hiptoss or something, and that hurts. Yeah, two or three times worse

901
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:27.960
than you expected. So I thought
the Matt itself was like a springboard or

902
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:31.559
something for rubber. It's no two
by fours. It's two by fours.

903
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:37.159
It's it's not even like amateur wrestling
like Matt. No, No, it's

904
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:42.320
it's wood with just a thin layer
of canvas over it. And holy even

905
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:44.719
in the middle of where it's got
the most give. It hurts, like

906
00:55:44.800 --> 00:55:46.559
shit, wow, like just those
hips. I was taking hiptosses. I

907
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:51.760
wasn't taking power bombs and shit.
Uh man, So I mean those guys

908
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.360
must have some techniques down for kind
of minimizing impact. Yeah, it's like,

909
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:58.119
you know how kind of like shock
absorption or something. So you're like

910
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.360
back flat, back bump, so
it would spread the impact out and you

911
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:04.800
slam your arms out to the side
as otherwise Holy shit, how would you

912
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.199
walk away from that? Hey,
I'm sure I wasn't taking those bumps,

913
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.400
right, because it's like landing on
your side. Yeah. I landed on

914
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:13.800
a couple of them. You took
it took a little rough, Yeah,

915
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:15.599
like brushing my teeth for the next
like two weeks hurt every time I raised

916
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:19.760
my right arm. Mommy be like, oh shit, yeah wrestling. Uh

917
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.360
yeah, so that really sucked.
But yeah, that was a blast and

918
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:24.960
uh thanks to Browse and hood Slam
for the help of that. That was

919
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:29.280
fantastic. Special thanks to Troy Baker
too. Yeah that was fun. Holy

920
00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:31.360
crap. Yeah, he was at
did not take long to convince him to

921
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:35.280
do that. Yeah, he literally
came off the lobby We're like, hey,

922
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.360
I was holding a camera just so
we didn't have to like waste any

923
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.960
time. You want to do this
thing real quick upstairs? In the podcast,

924
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:43.679
rim, yeah, sure, let's
do on the way. I had

925
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:47.000
to explain like an alligator in the
elevator. Yeah, he flies airplanes.

926
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.840
You're gonna be that guy. He's
like, okay, sure, let's do

927
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.719
it. That was all one take, just improv Yeah, he was.

928
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:54.960
He was fantastic. I want to
see that uncut footage. We will we

929
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.679
have more of it, do something
with that. I want to see the

930
00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:59.800
stuff that didn't make it in.
Yeah, I guess, I guess.

931
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:02.199
Man, he's a pro. Yeah, seriously, what a pro? Like

932
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:07.920
that slow motion voice? Yeah,
it's scary, Yeah, incredible, hilarious.

933
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:12.920
I also rekindled a fire within me
over this break. Oh all right,

934
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.920
So I've always always prided myself on
accomplishing whatever I set my mind too.

935
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:20.480
But there's been one thing for twenty
five years that's eluded me, okay,

936
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:22.679
and that's beating Mike Tyson. White
Whale. It is beating Mike Tyson.

937
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:28.760
Jason knows very well because he recorded
three hours of me trying to beat

938
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.559
Mike Tyson. At the Old Gig
unsuccessfully. Yeah, that's all on YouTube.

939
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:35.280
Stress was Dan Reichertz. Yeah,
I had a bunch of yeah who's

940
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.079
like heckling me and stuff too.
So I'm thinking, I'm gonna do this

941
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:39.599
right, I'm trying to find an
old CRT. I want to get an

942
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:44.400
any ass because I went to Soda
Popinski's that bar with my sister twice and

943
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:46.039
she it was awesome because she's really
good at video games and she takes to

944
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:50.519
him very quickly. She's got the
reflexes of youth and everything, so she's

945
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:54.639
streams yeah yeah, Kayla, And
so we she played through all the punch

946
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:58.079
Out like you know, got to
Tyson and stuff, and like you know,

947
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:00.679
she was raised on like the sixty
four era, and yet she picked

948
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:02.679
up punch Out and like immediately understood
what was going on there, like the

949
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:06.679
patterns and everything. The star punches
was two buttons. Yeah yeah, but

950
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:08.840
I mean a lot of times you
hand the controller to someone with punch Out

951
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:13.159
and they just start mashing buttons and
they don't understand it's so much a dodge

952
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:16.079
and counterattack type of game. Okay, but yes, at one point we

953
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:19.400
just it was two for ones and
I just loaded up on a bunch of

954
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:21.000
whiskey, and I just sat there
and I was like, I'm going to

955
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:24.480
keep fighting Mike Tyson over and over
again, and several times I got two

956
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:28.280
round three and you know, I
had like enough points to wherey if I

957
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:30.519
could just go the distance, I
would beat him on points. We could

958
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.840
five thousand after round three and I
couldn't. But yeah, I was consistently

959
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.920
getting better and better and getting past
that ninety second hell period where you actually

960
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:39.760
out with one punch. But then
I tweeted about it and I saw a

961
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:45.000
bunch of people saying that it's almost
impossible on HDTVs, which I realize every

962
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.960
time I've tried to do this as
an adult, I failed, and it's

963
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:52.400
been on an HDTV. So I
want to try now that I know how

964
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:57.599
that fight is structured so well over
and over again. I think if I

965
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.480
could get a CRT and play the
game, I think I can beat Mike

966
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.239
Tyson. After twenty five years,
and this is this seriously has been the

967
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:07.280
one thing that's eluded me in video
games forever and twenty fifteen, like it's

968
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:09.679
my wallpaper on my phone until I
beat him. I'm just start going to

969
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:13.760
stare at that that asshole every single
time I turn it on. But yes,

970
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:15.679
I'm going to beat him, and
I will. I will certainly be

971
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:19.639
pretty loud about that when I didn't
and you tend to buckle under the pressure

972
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:23.280
though, like I've seen this firston. But again, it's the one game

973
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:28.320
that gives me legitimate like anxiety issues. And uh but I mean again,

974
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:30.000
you were there. It was with
three people kind of giving me a ship

975
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:35.159
on an HDTV while being recorded for
the Internet. We spent like an hour

976
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:37.679
trying to like build you up as
well. Yeah, yeah, and I

977
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:42.079
still couldn't. But but no,
this is the year. If twenty fifteen

978
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:44.719
ends and I have not beatn Mike
Tyson in that game, I have failed.

979
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:46.320
So you can't do it that I'm
going to do it. I am

980
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:51.079
one going to beat him. I've
seen you fight, Tyson. This is

981
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.000
going to be a concentrated that terrible, doesn't a sporadic once every few months

982
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:55.039
things. I'm going to beat the
shit out. Now're gonna get to the

983
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:58.519
point where you just go into that
bar and do it on a on a

984
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.079
on a lark. Well, I
yeah, like every every time, like

985
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:04.400
every time you saw her in there. It's like, oh yeah, pop

986
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:06.559
off a Tyson. One of the
first nights that we were there, some

987
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:10.719
guy yeah walked in as Dan was
trying it, and just like his point,

988
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:14.320
they put the polar d you up
on the freezer door. If you

989
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:15.519
beat Tyson, they give you a
bottle of champagne for free, and they

990
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:17.719
put a polar radio up there.
And actually you can see me in the

991
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:21.679
polar at that guy that we watched
from that day. I'm in the background.

992
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:23.360
Is like, that guy's better than
how many of them are up there?

993
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:27.920
For that's it. There's four Holy
crap in a bar that is themed

994
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:30.599
around Mike Tyson named after a punch
Out characters. It's gotta be more than

995
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:34.920
four people in the city who can
beat Tyson. Yeah. Those TVs are

996
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.599
super laggy though, Yeah are they? Are they going through like a projector

997
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:39.239
or something. It's just TV.
It's just a TV. It's an nt

998
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:43.480
TV up on the ceiling, which
makes you think if I can get to

999
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:45.840
round three on that thing, I
should certainly be able to do it the

1000
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:50.639
correct way. I admire your optimism. It's gonna happen. It's not gonna

1001
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:53.280
happen. It's gonna happen. Put
money on it. I'm not gonna put

1002
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:59.480
money on it. One hundred dollars
right now. You have land in England.

1003
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:05.280
I don't have Dan record. Yeah. Sorry, I gotta eat subway

1004
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.719
every freaking day. I'm sorry.
I had subway today and gift my apologies

1005
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:12.840
the Lord Reichord. I didn't realize
that the Landed Gentry was joining us today.

1006
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.800
I am officially based on that thing. I got airmail to me today.

1007
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:20.079
It says I'm officially a Lord Lord
Dan Reichord, and I've got I

1008
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:23.079
don't have it with me, but
I've got a space on a ninety acre

1009
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:27.599
things south of a river in England. I guess I own I've got the

1010
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:31.119
deed or something to this, some
like one inch by one inch. I

1011
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:36.480
assume it's like the yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know what it

1012
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:39.199
looks all official. I got a
crest and everything. It's a big folder

1013
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:43.760
thing. It was airmail. That's
gotta like this nice embosson where it's like

1014
01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:45.559
you can buy space on the moon. Yeah yeah, but this is in

1015
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:47.920
England. You can go there.
I guess you can go to the moon

1016
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:52.480
too, but I can. Yeah, So I'm a lord. I'm Lord

1017
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.400
Dan Reicherd. Now wow, I'm
a little jealous like Steve Regel. I'm

1018
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:59.440
I'm never calling it that again,
just so you know. Yeah, that

1019
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:04.320
was it. No honorifics here.
Play any other video games? A few,

1020
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:07.760
but you care to discuss in depth. Pokemon Puzzle League for Nintendo sixty

1021
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:12.239
four is surprisingly fun to player,
even if you don't care about Pokemon.

1022
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:14.519
Oh yeah, yeah, Me and
my sister played a bunch of that.

1023
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:16.440
That was fun totally. Also,
I was watching TV when I was real

1024
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.760
sick that day. I was bedridden. I didn't really have any games in

1025
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:23.679
Kansas, and I just saw commercial
for Boom Beach. It's this iOS game.

1026
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:27.639
It's by super Cell, the guys
that did Clash of Clans. But

1027
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:30.000
I didn't know that when I downloaded. I've never played Clash of Clans or

1028
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:31.519
any of those type of games,
never really thought twice about them. But

1029
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:34.599
I was just sick of ship and
a commercial came on and I was like,

1030
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:36.800
fuck it, I'm looking for stuff
to do, and so I downloaded

1031
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:38.719
it and h it's you know what, I'm not hating it. I don't

1032
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:42.440
like the whole like for you to
play like wait for a time you're like,

1033
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:44.920
oh, I'm up grading my radar. It's you're building it like an

1034
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:47.280
island base, so like you're getting
radars and wood storage and gold storage and

1035
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:52.159
a headquarters and stuff and building up
like landing craft that you put soldiers and

1036
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:53.519
you know, different units and stuff
on. So I mean I kind of

1037
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:55.400
like that, you know perspective.
Why is it looks like a comand of

1038
01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:59.920
conquer type game, but it controls
very easily. The actual battles are real

1039
01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:02.280
simple. You just like send your
landing craft to another island and you like

1040
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:06.199
send a flare, like oh,
go attack that sniper tower first, but

1041
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:08.039
then you can also shoot from your
like battleship and it costs you, you

1042
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:12.079
know, this weird little currency thing. It's all right. I can see

1043
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.320
it being one of those things though
that I played for like two weeks and

1044
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:15.719
realized that, like, yeah,
I'm really doing is waiting for timers to

1045
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:19.639
render. I did that with like
Simpsons tapped out. We're like, okay,

1046
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:21.960
I'll give this a shot. I've
never really tried the premium thing very

1047
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:22.760
much, and I played it for
like two weeks and I was like,

1048
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:24.079
you know what, I don't feel
like I'm playing a game here. I

1049
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:27.800
don't feel like I'm doing anything.
I'm unlocking stuff in a very strict order.

1050
01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:32.039
While you're doing that, I've got
two Ultra Rare A j Lee's level

1051
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:37.960
up and combine and then level up
again. Oh I thought I thought she

1052
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:39.840
left the organization. No, no, she's still There's still there, her

1053
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:43.280
husband is, I know, but
I thought she was going to follow suit.

1054
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:45.719
That's the rumors about that for a
while. But this who knows?

1055
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:51.440
I mean that the WWE is a
fairly h vindictive company, is not that

1056
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:54.199
the impression you get like, has
has Sam Punkman removed from that thing yet?

1057
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:57.280
Yeah? Oh no, no,
no, no, he was never

1058
01:03:57.320 --> 01:03:59.840
in it. Oh he was never
in it. That came out after he

1059
01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:03.199
was already no longer with the company. Yeah, gotcha. Non issue.

1060
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:06.760
Let's played a bunch of docy Kent
Country Tropical Freeze, which I believe was

1061
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:12.000
that number one on Giant Bombs Game
of the Year. Believe that was let

1062
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.880
me look here, I think it
was right behind Destiny. That's okay,

1063
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:18.840
was an honorable mention on Dan Records. There was games. Yeah, couldn't

1064
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:23.159
been that kid. I didn't even
make my own I sat, I sat

1065
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.840
on that quick look and I played
a two player with you. I had

1066
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:30.480
no desire to ever go back to
it again. But I feel like through

1067
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.119
sheer force of will, so many
people keep talking about it, but like

1068
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:36.039
I'm just gonna find myself ordering a
copy of it at some point without even

1069
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:40.960
wanting it. Like everybody just keeps
bringing it up. They were playing it

1070
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.280
on Awesome Games Done Quick yesterday some
of that. Yeah I didn't know that

1071
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:47.039
they speed ran a lot of current
games on that thing. Yeah they did,

1072
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.280
Yeah they do here. Yeah,
that's right. That was another one

1073
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:53.320
I saw last night on Twitter.
People were talking about that, like it

1074
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:56.719
seems like usually they need, like
they need the years and all the elbow

1075
01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:00.199
grease of breaking the games down and
fully exploited. If you think of how

1076
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:02.679
the runs that we're getting right now, you can assume that you know,

1077
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:08.079
ten years down the line, how
much faster those runs could be. But

1078
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:12.960
still discovering things like they did a
Steam Reader like an anniversary collection. They

1079
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:17.960
had just discovered a brand new skip
like three hours before this really fifteen minutes

1080
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.960
off. Wow, So that's just
like a guaranteed new world record right there,

1081
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:25.079
right, Yeah, that's crazy the
more I see the speed run community,

1082
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:28.800
it's just it's amazing how into it
these guys gets were like the games

1083
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:31.719
they're doing. Like I watched a
warrior Land four speed run on Awesome Games

1084
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:34.719
Done Quick yesterday for a while,
and like they're talking about like, oh,

1085
01:05:34.760 --> 01:05:38.559
this is the warrior Land speed run
community. It's like there's a community

1086
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:43.039
that's dedicated to speed running Warrio Land
games. They know, like joke,

1087
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:48.079
but what I never saw a warrior
Land for I watched them, Yeah,

1088
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:51.119
and like they knew like super specific
way. It's like, okay, well

1089
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:54.639
I can skip into this door if
after I hit this thing I started,

1090
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:58.280
it buffers like the a thing,
and I like they really knew their ship

1091
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:01.039
with warrior Land and we're flying through
that. Yeah, it's absolutely amazing.

1092
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:08.039
I watched the task block, the
tool assisted speed run block yesterday. That

1093
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:11.920
is always my favorite thing about speed
runs. And there's a whole site devoted

1094
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.000
to you know, emulator videos and
sorts of that sort of stuff. But

1095
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.719
seeing them play that stuff on real
hardware, it was pretty awesome. Did

1096
01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:26.760
you catch that? So last year
they glitched Total Control into Super Mario World

1097
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:30.960
in a way that let them force
new program code through the control reports and

1098
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:34.719
then basically they programmed in Snake,
the old like Nokia phone style game and

1099
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:39.000
and like Pong and some other stuff
like that. And one of them kind

1100
01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:42.119
of off hand said, like,
originally we wanted to force the program code

1101
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:45.960
for the original Super Mario Brothers down, but we just couldn't get it together.

1102
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:49.719
So this year, that's exactly what
they did. So they glitched the

1103
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:51.800
memory in such a way that it
is, you know, it's like,

1104
01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:55.719
guess, it's the same way that
like, you know, you certain games

1105
01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.960
could be used to mod consoles,
like Mecca Sault on the original Xbox,

1106
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:01.280
like glitched says and that sort of
stuff. It's like different ways to manipulate

1107
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:04.960
things, except they're doing it all
with a controller or in this case,

1108
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:10.079
a robot is you know, through
the controller ports, glitching it in such

1109
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:14.559
a specific way that basically it opens
the game up to be programmed, and

1110
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:18.599
then they force Super Mario Brothers one
through the fucking controller ports and play it

1111
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:24.599
into into what game super Mario World? Oh geez, Is that the entirety

1112
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:29.679
of the game they did, I
assume. So, like it starts with

1113
01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:32.440
the title screen, like it looks
like it had it had s Nest music

1114
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:42.519
in it. What Yeah, they
used the Nest audio banks. Yeah.

1115
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:46.800
Do you think about their next trick? Though? It was fucking great?

1116
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:51.400
It was the Again, it was
the sort of thing that they foreshadowed it

1117
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:54.760
a little bit like as they were
doing it, and I was like,

1118
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:58.079
oh, I totally know what they're
doing right now, because you know,

1119
01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:01.960
there's another total control trick for is
Pokemon Red. They did it with they

1120
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.400
manipulate the memory in such a way
I have to reset the game, manipulated

1121
01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:10.119
some more, same type deal where
you're forcing program code through it. And

1122
01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:15.319
what they did is they they forced
in a chat client and then they started

1123
01:08:15.399 --> 01:08:23.279
streaming in data from the internet and
had a Twitch chat client. So Pokemon

1124
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:29.720
played Twitch. So Pokemon a super
game boy's through super games and onto the

1125
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:31.800
screen. Yeah, emoticons and everything. That's pretty intense. Yeah, it's

1126
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:34.800
pretty crazy. It's pretty intense.
Yeah, those guys are super talent.

1127
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:38.600
However, they get how are they
getting the data in? Uh through the

1128
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:42.720
control report the USB. Sure,
so they had you know, there's a

1129
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:46.920
computer side to this that was feeding
the data. Because you can connect to

1130
01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:53.600
Twitch chat via I r C,
so it's fairly standard protocol that is well

1131
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:58.039
documented. So first talented as those
guys are, you give them microphones to

1132
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:00.720
put on their head and they just
lose them. Yet they don't know what

1133
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:02.800
to do. Yeah, it's the
same ones that we use the armadanna of

1134
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:05.239
mics, and they're just like putting
them on upside down. And it takes

1135
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:08.920
like five minutes for these guys to
get there their mics on. It is

1136
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:11.439
between every game, So having me
crazy, I had to get that out.

1137
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:14.560
I'm sorry. I wonder how many
of those guys utilize those skills and

1138
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:16.000
like, you know, a real
like day job type thing, because they're

1139
01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:20.039
obviously extremely talented with this like coding
type stuff, and I have to imagine

1140
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:24.119
there's plenty of jobs where you could
apply that. I mean, I can't

1141
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:28.119
imagine those guys are working at Subway
and then doing like super genious programming stuff

1142
01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:30.960
just for fun speed run stuff.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

1143
01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:33.920
Maybe they're exploiting iPhones in their spare
time. I mean finding those kinds

1144
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:42.159
of exploits like is aided a lot
by knowing how computers work. Like a

1145
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:46.279
lot of the best testers that I
worked with, like new understood like buffer

1146
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:49.880
overruns so they new to anticipate,
like if they if I do this a

1147
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:55.000
billion times, it might break.
Or if this is how seeming works in

1148
01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:57.560
geometry, if I go and jump
over here, I might get through this

1149
01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:00.239
wall. Things like that. Yeah, and that's you know, the that's

1150
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:03.399
the sort of thing that emulation has
allowed. And emulation I think is a

1151
01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:06.760
key part to speed running in a
lot of ways. But not just the

1152
01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:11.000
tool assisted stuff. But you can
dump a lout of data from Yeah,

1153
01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:13.319
yeah, definitely, like they can. They can sit there and look at

1154
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:15.399
program memory and know, like you
know, if they're onto something or not,

1155
01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:17.880
and try to figure out things that
way. In some games, I

1156
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:21.159
don't think it always works that way, but but that's you know, when

1157
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:25.399
you're looking for glitches and level skips
and weird shit like that. Like you

1158
01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:30.479
know, I'm sure that that stuff
is extremely valuable. I love this seriously.

1159
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:32.000
Yeah, it's crazy. Watched it
all day yesterday. I've been kind

1160
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.680
of watching a little bit. It
just started within the last on forty eight

1161
01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:41.079
hours. Yeah, start Sunday Sunday
morning, for like four days from I

1162
01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:44.279
think the tenth is the last day, which is what's Saturday. I don't

1163
01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:46.119
even know the day. It is
really seriously but yeah, six days long.

1164
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:48.600
Yeah, that thing's exciting. I
had fune with the summer when last

1165
01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:51.479
year it's it's a great thing to
just throw on in the background and just

1166
01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:55.520
kind of keep an eye on.
And they raise a shitload of money just

1167
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.760
in like, you know, an
hour I was watching that Warrior Land thing.

1168
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:00.319
They went from like thirty three thousand
to like fifty something. Yeah,

1169
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:02.960
that's awesome. They do a lot
with that thing. It's a it's a

1170
01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:10.439
neat event. Uh. Far Cry
four is about the only game I played.

1171
01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:15.119
It wasn't Doda or Destiny over the
Break. Uh what are you?

1172
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:16.640
What are you playing on PC?
Or PYS four? But which one?

1173
01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:20.439
Far Cry? Yeah? Uh?
Ps four four? Yeah? Uh you

1174
01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:24.239
play your Doda on a game board
these days? I do. Indeed.

1175
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:28.520
Actually I tried to play Doda on
my MacBook a Super game Boy at my

1176
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:30.520
parents' house with a like, I
shit, you not a fifteen year old

1177
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:33.960
mouse, which is the only one
in the house I could find. No,

1178
01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:38.960
it was a mouse. It was
just an act super super old Microsoft

1179
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:44.119
mouse. Uh like Intel a mouse
era like original is Ship with the red

1180
01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:46.319
laser? I think so? I
mean it was a laser mouse. Yeah,

1181
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:48.520
what do you call them? Very
old one? What do you call

1182
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:51.439
the mice where it's the big stupid
thing where it's got the actual like ball

1183
01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:56.960
on top of it, the most
unwieldy stupid thing. But I mean that's

1184
01:11:56.960 --> 01:11:59.359
not a mouse, it's track ball. Okay, but I didn't it called

1185
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:00.439
the track ball like a normal mouse
too, like the thing you can take

1186
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:03.560
out. Well yeah, humming back
with the balls and mice. Does anyone

1187
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:09.720
like those track ball things really?
Carpal tunnel people, that sort of stuff.

1188
01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:12.840
Some people switched to track balls to
get relief from that. Also,

1189
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:15.960
I mean I think they have specific
uses, right yeah, centipede yeah,

1190
01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:19.520
missile command yeah yeah, and sure
you can like bolt it, say,

1191
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:24.520
to the arm of your chair and
not have to like move something around my

1192
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:27.640
surface. You know that makes sense? Yeah, I imagine in space probo

1193
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:30.680
probably be all right, we should. Yeah, you have think pads I

1194
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:34.680
think up there, But the i
SS with the little nubs they announced Lenovo

1195
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:40.039
announced a new think pad, like
a super ultra thin, like top of

1196
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:44.039
the line, state of the art
think pad at CS today, still with

1197
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.800
a little racer nub in the middle. Still, No, there's going nowhere.

1198
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:53.319
The nub is eternal. Yeah.
I did not manage to play a

1199
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:56.920
lot of video games over the break, uh, for reasons that we will

1200
01:12:56.960 --> 01:13:02.359
get into as we head into the
news. The news. Somebody get excited

1201
01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:06.359
about the news, thank you,
while I bring up my thing. Here's

1202
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:10.960
the article we need to have like
morning radio call in response. You know,

1203
01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:14.640
things built into this show. Hit
a button or something whatever, he

1204
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:18.159
says the news. You go,
hey, you know, and then I

1205
01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:20.640
just need to do a better job
of getting simple note up on my phone.

1206
01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:25.960
Before we get to the segment,
did you guys try to play Xbox

1207
01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:31.039
or PlayStation four from let's say the
morning of Christmas Day through about two days

1208
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:35.840
later? Yes, boy, that
didn't work. Was that a shit show?

1209
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:41.560
Xbox seemed to come up quicker than
PS four did for me. PS

1210
01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:45.840
four came up and then went down
again and was just spotty like and basically

1211
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:47.880
on PlayStation four, it was saying
I was logged in, but no services

1212
01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:50.920
were available. I would try to
play games and be like, nope,

1213
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:55.560
can't you call duty? Profile doesn't
exist, homes Yeah, seriously, everything

1214
01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:58.479
was locked out the P four one. I couldn't get a friends list up.

1215
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:00.840
Yeah, that sort of, but
it was still I was logged in

1216
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.520
right, like yeah, Like you
would boot to the main PS four interface

1217
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:06.520
and it seemed like it was fine
until you noticed there was no number next

1218
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:10.920
to your friend's icon. Yeah,
and you couldn't access messages and blah blah

1219
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:13.720
blah or a digital game. I
couldn't get into any of that if I

1220
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:15.720
was offline. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, so if you were on a

1221
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:18.359
if you were on a console that
was not your home console, which I

1222
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:21.479
was, none of your digital games
were played, of course. Yeah.

1223
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:25.319
I couldn't get to the cloud saves
for any of the disc games I had

1224
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:27.720
brought with me. Does it just
say you don't have the license if you

1225
01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:30.680
try to play the little lock icon
is on there? And I'm sure you

1226
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:32.640
know the Xbox would have the same
problem if you were on a separate Xbox

1227
01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:36.600
from your home one. Yes,
that is how that well, they both

1228
01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:40.720
have the same limitation. Uh,
and you know, there's it's hard to

1229
01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:44.079
it's hard to think of a better
way to get around that. You know,

1230
01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:45.920
if you can designate the console that
is your console, but be on

1231
01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:49.159
that right, you have to be
able to sell here's my second home console,

1232
01:14:49.199 --> 01:14:51.319
and I want to play offline here
too. But well then you're getting

1233
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:54.439
two copies of every game and other
people can play. I mean, if

1234
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:56.520
you remember, that's how the PS
three started out. In fact, it

1235
01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:00.439
was I think five machines, and
then that just led to the neo thread

1236
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:04.359
of people buying games for each other
and sharing them. Uh so you see

1237
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:10.119
how that went. But yeah,
it is almost inconceivable that anybody listening to

1238
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:13.119
this doesn't know what happened, but
just in case, because it was on

1239
01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:16.199
the front page of CNN, it
was on the nightly news of every major

1240
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:21.960
network that night, which is kind
of crazy actually to see it's it's a

1241
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:26.800
Christmas story. Well sure, it
became it's like a human interest like a

1242
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:29.760
look they ruined Christmas type thing.
Yeah, yeah, but it was.

1243
01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:35.359
It was a distributed denial of service
against both online services. Yeah, very

1244
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:40.560
targeted, you know, set out
to do exactly what it did, which

1245
01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:45.000
was bring both services down. Botts
Man on the day it mattered most Botts

1246
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:49.279
they stole Christmas. Yeah, you
know, I was busy with family stuff

1247
01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:51.560
on Christmas Day, so I didn't
mess with any ton. I did run

1248
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:56.640
downstairs when I saw the news reports
hitting and tried to access some stuff.

1249
01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:59.600
Yeah. PS four was already totally
down at that point. Xbox was like

1250
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:01.840
barely creeping along, but I could
tell it was on the way out too.

1251
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:03.840
Did you guys mess with it,
like right in the middle of the

1252
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:09.279
bullshit? Yeah, Like, I
didn't actually experience any Xbox outage. Really,

1253
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:12.680
I wasn't playing a ton of Xbox
One stuff, but I played around

1254
01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:16.359
that time and never actually had a
problem. I never saw it down,

1255
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:18.840
but I was like you, I
wasn't trying as much on that console,

1256
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:24.039
and by the time I did try, like late the next day, it

1257
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:26.520
seemed to be more or less working. Yeah, although it was pretty slow,

1258
01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:31.800
but it was functional. It was
close to seventy two hours after the

1259
01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:34.840
initial attacks before PSN came back up
for me, though. Yeah, I

1260
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:40.119
was seeing you continuing to have PSN
tribals, like I wasn't having trouble at

1261
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:43.560
that point. Yeah, but yeah, you were still out. I think

1262
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:45.279
I was super still out, super
fucking bummed because that was like the three

1263
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:48.680
day window that I had to like
all the family stuff was over as at

1264
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:51.800
the end of the twenty fifth,
and I didn't have to start worrying about

1265
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:54.560
her, you know. The rest
of the game of the year stuff.

1266
01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:57.279
I had to get done for two
or three more days and then fly back

1267
01:16:57.319 --> 01:17:00.720
here the exact time, I had
to do nothing to play games for like

1268
01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:04.359
three days. I couldn't play any
of the games. It was lousy.

1269
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:08.800
I just said, fuck it,
I'm gonna boot up Steam. See this

1270
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:13.680
new video card runs, which is
too video card. You know. I

1271
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:15.800
saw I saw some people gloating over
the fact that their PC games were working.

1272
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:18.159
But I mean, like Steam got
hit with dds uh you know,

1273
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:24.520
yeah, like they're like, no
network on Earth is completely invulnerable to this

1274
01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:27.359
type of thing. It's just you
know, it's it's about how you react

1275
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:29.399
to it, right, that was
the bigger that sort of thing, And

1276
01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:33.199
that's the sort of stuff where you
look at like Sony's response or lack thereof,

1277
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:36.159
it's like what how did Yeah?
Like really that was yeah, because

1278
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:39.880
I mean you can you can exactly
the attack, You can understand exactly,

1279
01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:43.000
Like that's that's like you give them
a pass for for like kind of direct

1280
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:45.359
malice. But yeah, once the
attacks are over and it's another two days

1281
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:47.920
before your thing comes back up,
at that point you're like, Okay,

1282
01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.159
what the fuck is your network built? What is going on here. The

1283
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:54.920
server just become a fucking smoking crater
in the ground, and like what happened

1284
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:58.960
along the way that that it took
that long to get it back up.

1285
01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:03.640
Saw a story on the Kataku Today
quoting an anonymous Sony employee saying that,

1286
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.199
I mean whatever, like you didn't
know this was already happening, but sounding

1287
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:13.479
like they're having internal conversations about beefing
that stuff the hell up? Weird?

1288
01:18:14.319 --> 01:18:16.760
I wonder why, Yeah, who
would have thought? I wonder where all

1289
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:20.920
the computers in the buttonet are?
Like where are the more well? I

1290
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:24.680
mean, oh, you mean,
like are they mostly in X country?

1291
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:29.039
Right? Like? Is it all
just like went unprotected Windows XP terminals in

1292
01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:32.720
Yes, I want to say that
in this case would sell process I read

1293
01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:35.239
I read in some article I can't
remember where that in this case. That

1294
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:38.199
was one of the reasons it was
so hard to fight this one off was

1295
01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:41.640
because a lot of the queries were
coming from computers in the US, oh

1296
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:45.479
so or ips in the US,
I should say, or at least they

1297
01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:46.560
were proxied to look like they were
in the US. I don't know,

1298
01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:55.359
called zombies what individual computers? Old
computers? Yeah, I don't know,

1299
01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:57.560
I didn't know that there were still
a lot of those. I don't know,

1300
01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:01.000
Drew, why don't you tell us
left in id a hacking phase in

1301
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:06.680
high school college era. I didn't
do anything. I didn't doing any I

1302
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:15.239
was. I did install a packett
sniffer on my We had an internal network

1303
01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:23.279
in our dorm room, like a
router to split the the internet and have

1304
01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:27.439
WiFi. So I installed the packet
sniffer on my computer and then got my

1305
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:32.000
roommates Facebook password was sent in the
clear. This is like back when,

1306
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:38.399
yeah when when Facebook was brand new. Yeah yeah, I was scandal yes,

1307
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:44.399
got it, black hat. Oh
boy, that's rough stuff. I

1308
01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:48.960
cracked some wet passwords in my neighborhood. Yeah, some war running air crack

1309
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:55.600
on a laptop driving around fucking yeah. Yeah, that's my most recent dumb

1310
01:19:55.640 --> 01:20:00.039
shit. Yeah. I just find
that's so fascinating. Yeah yeah, I

1311
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:01.159
don't know it was. That was
a very weird couple of days. They

1312
01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:03.720
were watching this happen and just go
like, my god, man, these

1313
01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:10.039
like multi billion dollars monolithic corporations are
fucking powerless right now. They're like held

1314
01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:15.720
hostage by these kids you know,
who are playing Marvel contest of champions,

1315
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:20.880
right, that's where they coordinate.
Yeah, that's where their command and control

1316
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:25.279
was taking place, where they do
anything to make it better. They are

1317
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:28.760
I was getting to that. I
was trying to think if I guess,

1318
01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:31.319
there's not much else to say other
than fuck that sucked. It's you know,

1319
01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:35.600
it's one of those things that,
like so many of our problems in

1320
01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:39.960
this digital age, the Internet was
built in a specific way for a reason.

1321
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:46.319
Yeah, and to to take away
the anonymity that you know that built

1322
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:48.560
the Internet in the first place.
I think ruins too much of it.

1323
01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:53.319
But at the same time, the
lack of accountability lets people do a lot

1324
01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:57.880
of really truly horrible ship, and
that is the crossroads where we are at.

1325
01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.920
And the more of the people abuse
the Internet to do this sort of

1326
01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:06.760
ship, the stronger case people will
have to control it and destroy it ultimately,

1327
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:12.159
So I guess, be careful.
I don't know. I get it.

1328
01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:15.439
On one level, it's fun to
fucking do, it's fun to fuck

1329
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:18.520
shit up. It's fun to find
an abandoned car and set it on fire.

1330
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:24.319
But but what if that kid was
going to get an abandoned car for

1331
01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:28.439
Christmas? Exactly if someone was getting
an abandoned car Christmas and you set it

1332
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:31.079
on fire, That jud be probably
a bad person. What if what if

1333
01:21:31.399 --> 01:21:36.439
three billion people rely on that car
to get to school? Yeah uh yeah,

1334
01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:42.399
Yeah, it's fun to lash out
of the corporations, but they're not

1335
01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:45.439
the ones feeling the brunt of the
hurt. Whatever. Yeah, it's it's

1336
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:49.600
a fucked up situation. Yeah,
I saw last night our Modern Times.

1337
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:53.680
Yeah, one of one of the
members of Lizard Squad has been arrested in

1338
01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:56.800
the UK for real this time,
because I thought that was thear is out

1339
01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:00.399
on bail now, but that was
the whole Does the charges are the way

1340
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:04.560
the Finest Squad claimed that this whole
thing wasn't gonna happen because everyone was getting

1341
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:08.479
popped. I don't want to pay
too much lip service stuff. It's hard

1342
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:11.840
to know if any of that very
possible, that the Finest Squad is just

1343
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:15.600
Lizard Squad. Yeah, and then
what's the deal too? Where what's that

1344
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:17.239
guy's name, Kim dot com or
whatever? So Kim So that was the

1345
01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:19.640
thing I was gonna get to with
this, Did you see that? Yeah?

1346
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:25.319
So Kim dot Com supposedly his one
real name. Yeah, he changed

1347
01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:28.239
it years ago. Really, Oh
yeah, it's like a warrior. Yeah.

1348
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:30.159
No, no, it's his last
name is dot Com. So the

1349
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:34.399
guy's name is Kim dot Com.
Yeah that's correct. Okay, Uh didn't

1350
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:38.279
he you can't run kimball dot a
work way back when I met him.

1351
01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:41.520
Yes, he is a highly hughes
has been in the past, a highly

1352
01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:44.319
ranked Called of Duty players. Yes, that's right. Yeah. So apparently

1353
01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:48.359
he wanted to play Destiny so badly
on Christmas Day that he paid these guys

1354
01:22:48.439 --> 01:22:51.079
off with. It's not Mega upload
anymore, right, it's doesn't have a

1355
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:56.159
Mega Is it the same site though? No, because Mega upload got shut

1356
01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:58.600
the foot That's what I mean,
Like he's the government. It's a different

1357
01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:02.880
site. Now Mega is in New
Zealand and it's different company. But yes,

1358
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:08.439
same shift, same thing. Anyway, he paid these guys in vouchers

1359
01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:13.800
for that site that apparently at resale
value, amounted to something like three hundred

1360
01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:15.840
thousand dollars. Yeah. They were
like megap privacy vouchers that were like fifty

1361
01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:19.079
bucks a piece or something, and
so I forget what the numbers were,

1362
01:23:19.159 --> 01:23:23.199
but I mean I remember seeing that
three hundred k was what these guys could

1363
01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:26.920
claim to be able to sell them
for Uh so some people. Some people

1364
01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.680
were talking like that's why Xbox came
up faster than PS four, So now

1365
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:33.359
we're ransoming. Kim dot com was
playing Destiny on the Xbox. I'd find

1366
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:38.239
that hard to believe. This is
even scarier scenario. Well, so,

1367
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:42.279
yeah, they weren't ransoming at per
se. But when this guy came along

1368
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:46.520
to try to pay them off.
Uh, you know that is supposedly when

1369
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:50.520
this stop or why and why it
stopped the future, it's really weird unless

1370
01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:55.239
he did it from the get go, unless he is sponsoring the hackers from

1371
01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:56.840
the past. Oh, I don't
know, he's got enough. He's got

1372
01:23:56.920 --> 01:23:59.880
enough heat on him already, exactly. He doesn't need it. Were not

1373
01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:04.399
negotiate, got this weird songs?
The dude, The fucking cyberpunk dystopia is

1374
01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:08.439
creeping closer and closer every day,
and it's not as fucked up. It's

1375
01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:11.319
not fucked up in the ways I
own. It's not. It's kind of

1376
01:24:11.359 --> 01:24:14.600
insane. It's like, yeah,
there's kind of sad, like you like

1377
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:18.199
your cyborg I implants are nowhere to
be seen and instead it's just like it's

1378
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:25.239
just bullshit, like this and I
don't know, everything's too pretty give a

1379
01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:28.920
time, all right, we'll get
there. Yeah, okay, I'm confident.

1380
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:32.560
Yeah. So uh, to their
credit, Sony issued a make good

1381
01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:38.399
because their service was down for it
seems like ballpark three days ish. That

1382
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:43.199
sounds about right. That's definitely what
I experienced. So the two things they

1383
01:24:43.239 --> 01:24:47.479
are doing are extending five days of
bonus service to PlayStation Plus members, sure,

1384
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:51.279
which you know is more than enough
to cover the outage. Uh,

1385
01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:57.520
and also offering uh so it's a
ten percent discount code, and I want

1386
01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:01.319
to make sure that I'm clear on
who's getting it. Is it just PlayStation

1387
01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:05.800
Plus members? Sometime this month,
we will announce that for a limited time,

1388
01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:10.439
we'll be offering a ten percent discount
code good for a one time discount

1389
01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:13.920
off a total cart purchase in the
PlayStation Store as a thank you to all

1390
01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:17.239
PSN members. So all PSN members
probably means that anybody who created an account,

1391
01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:21.479
right, so you know that seems
reasonable to me, you know,

1392
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:27.119
purchase yea, yeah, more than
enough service to cover the outage, and

1393
01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:33.119
a fairly decent discount on a purchase. Uh, it's not that bad feelings

1394
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:35.560
were hurt. Brad yeah, I
know, you'll never get those days back.

1395
01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:41.159
Uh. Microsoft did nothing, but
then again, it seemed like their

1396
01:25:41.159 --> 01:25:44.680
stuff worked a lot faster, So
yeah, I guess. And there's precedent

1397
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:45.800
for them doing the same in the
past. You know, what was it,

1398
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:49.479
two thousand and eight or nine?
They have definitely had rough Christmases Call

1399
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:55.319
of Duty. You know, player
load has fucking submerged that network before.

1400
01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:57.880
Yes, they've given out free games
and stuff in the past. I guess

1401
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:03.239
they just did not think that it
was necessary in this case. But keeping

1402
01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:08.720
with the theme of free stuff for
screwing up? Uh, did you guys

1403
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:12.880
cover the The Master Chief Collection Make
Good last week? I don't think that

1404
01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:15.640
happened. I don't think we covered
anything. Okay. Also, that podcast

1405
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:20.159
got eaten well, even on them, even even on the follow up stream.

1406
01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:25.399
I don't think this had happened until
after all that. I might be

1407
01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:30.640
wrong, but there's still the podcast
in the room. Wait where you are

1408
01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:32.840
they under the table? Just kick
them, cops conceived, fucking just hold

1409
01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:40.199
them down and beat them mercilessly.
Uh. Master Chief Collection still messed up,

1410
01:26:40.279 --> 01:26:43.520
or has been messed up for quite
a while, to the point that

1411
01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:47.520
they have come out with some pretty
serious stuff for people who have played it

1412
01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:53.359
up to now. Uh so,
yeah, Bonnie Ross who runs three four

1413
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:59.720
three, posted this letter, so
see if I can get all this straight.

1414
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:02.640
Anybody who has played to the master
Chief collection between the launch date of

1415
01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:06.520
November eleventh and the day this was
announced, which was the nineteenth of December,

1416
01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:12.840
that's me. We'll be getting one
month of Xbox Live Gold, an

1417
01:27:12.920 --> 01:27:16.319
exclusive endgame name plate, and avatar. I was there when it was fucked.

1418
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:25.840
You wouldn't believe the shit I've seen, but this is fucking crazy.

1419
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:30.039
They are going to remaster Halo three
ODST and give it free to anybody who

1420
01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:36.079
qualifies from that period, which,
you know, knowing how these things come

1421
01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:39.800
about, I'm sure they were working. Well. The name of the game

1422
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:42.279
was Halo three to ODSC. Oh
I thought you said, And no,

1423
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:44.520
no, no, no, Halo
three is in the collection. Yeah,

1424
01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:46.560
that's just the full title. You
know, it's ODST. But you know,

1425
01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:49.159
you have to imagine they were already
working on that thing and we're going

1426
01:27:49.199 --> 01:27:53.039
to sell it as DSc. So
they just you know, made the executive

1427
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:56.279
decision at the top level. Let's
let's just give it free to whoever deserves

1428
01:27:56.319 --> 01:27:59.359
it, you know that. I
think that's fine. But at the same

1429
01:27:59.399 --> 01:28:01.760
time, it wasn't like the game
was one hundred percent fixed as of the

1430
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:04.760
nineteenth. You know, there are
some people that are encountering that game for

1431
01:28:04.840 --> 01:28:09.439
the first time on the twentieth sure, Like are they expecting that that thing

1432
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:13.039
that only works if you remove the
game from shells right and say like,

1433
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:15.359
you know, okay, well now
we're not at least we're not selling a

1434
01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:17.680
broken product anymore. Yeah, I
kind of maybe they feel like their patches

1435
01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:20.039
have been enough to get it working
for most players. That's you know,

1436
01:28:20.119 --> 01:28:23.039
though I don't know. I haven't
I haven't tried it for myself. I

1437
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:25.800
mean, they're implicitly saying with that
cutoff that hey, we think the game

1438
01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:28.920
is fixed now and works. You
know, I can. I can kind

1439
01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:30.640
of also see it from their perspective
though, because if they had announced this

1440
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:33.159
and said like you know, oh
yeah, we got now, it's just

1441
01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:36.640
like people go out and buy it
just well also like oh boo who at

1442
01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:39.880
the same time, yea by the
game, like like woe was you?

1443
01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:42.960
You just sold another like fifty thousand
copies of this thing or something, but

1444
01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:45.399
this broken fucking game. But you
know, yeah, it's it's kind of

1445
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:48.760
a sticky situation. But but yeah, yeah, you were getting the You're

1446
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:53.079
getting the entire ODST campaign remastered in
the same way that the rest of that

1447
01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:59.119
thing was for free at some point, uh this year except high to launch

1448
01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:01.880
broken something God like they'll have fixed
the core game and that'll come out and

1449
01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:05.479
be like, oh well, we'll
definitely come out later than it was going

1450
01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:14.439
to who knows what segment of that
game's development crew is responsible for. And

1451
01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:18.479
then lastly, you're getting the Relic
Halo two Anniversary multiplayer map. Does that

1452
01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:23.760
mean anything to you, Drew,
because my understanding, my understanding was that

1453
01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:28.279
all the maps were already into some
of them, they remastered some of them,

1454
01:29:28.319 --> 01:29:31.119
they made changes to geometry and made
maps that are are similar. Okay

1455
01:29:31.239 --> 01:29:33.920
they're doing Okay, that makes sense. Oh yeah, you're right. Okay,

1456
01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:38.039
Yeah, we will remap, we
will reimagine the fan favorite map Relic

1457
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:42.479
fully remastered and running it to ADP
sixty frames a second. Yeah. Uh

1458
01:29:42.720 --> 01:29:46.359
so I'm happy free, Drew.
Yeah, thanks, free free map,

1459
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:51.680
free campaign, free month of Live, some other trinkets. That's you know,

1460
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:56.600
that seems pretty significant. All better, It still doesn't excuse the way

1461
01:29:56.640 --> 01:30:00.760
things happened. No, but but
at least they brought it. I guess.

1462
01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:03.960
I guess. I don't know.
I don't think the PlayStation Plus version

1463
01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:08.119
of Drive Club made it out,
but they are selling d LC now,

1464
01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:12.680
so oh that just started. Well, last time I put it in,

1465
01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:15.840
it seemed to be fully funny.
Yeah, I've seen people saying that it's

1466
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:18.760
basically up to par or now.
Yeah. Last I checked, which is

1467
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:21.920
not that long ago. It's like
a few days ago, the PS plus

1468
01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:27.560
edition was still not up hopefully soon
on that one. And then they even

1469
01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:30.760
though the yeah, well who knows
the ub Soft the assass Creed Unity free

1470
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:35.159
game thing has also begun. That's
out there. Yeah, I got a

1471
01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:43.000
code for yeah for what uh?
They It was basically they sent an email,

1472
01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:46.840
You click through some stuff and you
select a game. I picked fark

1473
01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:49.239
Right four. I had all the
games that they were offering, so I

1474
01:30:49.319 --> 01:30:53.079
picked far Right four and posted on
on my blog on Giant Bonds. So

1475
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:55.560
someone someone got it. They gave
out Steam keys, not just you play

1476
01:30:55.600 --> 01:31:03.199
keys. Uh, all right,
Well, onto less shitty news. I

1477
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:08.920
guess ce yes is happening. I
thought you said less shitty well, there's

1478
01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:12.000
nothing out of CES, so rest
easy. All right, Okay, you

1479
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:14.680
don't have to put up with any
of that bullshit. I haven't seen any

1480
01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:18.239
real like true consumer electronic show news. Well it's not really hasn't even started

1481
01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:26.079
yet. I feel like I know, like the Nvidio keynote was Sunday night.

1482
01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:28.960
I mean I thought Monday was the
first day, but the keynotes are

1483
01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:31.239
was the night before. Oh I
heard from CES was that tested dot Com

1484
01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:34.880
went to Lotus of Siam. Yes, I saw their plate or their table

1485
01:31:34.880 --> 01:31:40.159
full of inflates Las Vegas restaurant.
Have you been. Yes, it's so

1486
01:31:40.239 --> 01:31:44.079
good. Is it really that good? It's pretty good, like I love

1487
01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:46.760
Thai food. I mean it's great. But I don't know, I got

1488
01:31:46.840 --> 01:31:50.319
I have to take your word for
it. Yeah, okay, I believe

1489
01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:56.000
you. Well, this came out
along with CEES. I don't know if

1490
01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:59.479
they're announcing it there or what the
deal is, but Son, you put

1491
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:03.159
out a press least that they were
finally launching a subscription service for PlayStation now

1492
01:32:04.079 --> 01:32:06.680
remember that thing. Yeah, so
this means it's finally coming out of beta

1493
01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:10.439
and I'm just gonna be out for
really, I feel like it was it

1494
01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:12.920
was open beta technically, yeah,
I don't. I don't see the word

1495
01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:15.560
beta mentioned in here anywhere, or
you know, they don't say anything about

1496
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:17.399
the beta ending. But you know
the biggest problem was that the game pricing

1497
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:21.039
was just completely insane. Yeah,
you know, like they had you,

1498
01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:25.479
They had you paying almost as much
for like a ninety days worth of the

1499
01:32:25.520 --> 01:32:28.439
game rental as you could just go
out and buy the game on the PS

1500
01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:31.319
three four or is renting the game
over their guy Yeah, this is there.

1501
01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:35.439
This is their their streaming. They're
on live their guy ki type thing.

1502
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:38.600
You know, we did, we
did a quick look of of what

1503
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:42.239
that's like. You know, it
works. It's not one hundred percent ideal.

1504
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.079
You can tell that you're playing a
game with some latency. But you

1505
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:46.600
know, for for most games,
you wouldn't want to try to beat Mike

1506
01:32:46.680 --> 01:32:50.760
Tyson that way. You wouldn't want
to play probably like online shooters or fighting

1507
01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:54.760
games that way. But you know, if you're the Street Rid four is

1508
01:32:54.840 --> 01:32:58.399
on the service, yeah, well
maybe you know it's a little laggy,

1509
01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:01.039
but you know, if you were
to say play remastered Metal your solid games,

1510
01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:04.880
that would probably be fun. We
played a little da and it was

1511
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:09.880
okay, but man, the minute
that it would start buffering or something like

1512
01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:13.680
that, or the resolution went,
I just think I would know I'd be

1513
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:15.840
done when ye when the graphics chunk
up and you start seeing the artifacting or

1514
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:18.960
whatever. It's not great, but
anyway, like they you know, they

1515
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:23.279
finally have seemed to have sort of
figured out what pricing should be on that

1516
01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:26.239
thing or well, you know,
you'd be the judge. They do have

1517
01:33:26.319 --> 01:33:30.239
a monthly subscription option now it is
nineteen ninety nine per month, and that

1518
01:33:30.439 --> 01:33:33.800
opens up the whole library, not
the entire library. I've got the list.

1519
01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:39.000
Uh, it's it's it seemed like
most of it from what I could

1520
01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:42.479
tell. I didn't like put the
list side. Most of that those consoles

1521
01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:45.359
live, but most of the games
that are on the service, most of

1522
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:50.359
what's currently available on PlayStation now.
Just kind of eyeballing this list, I

1523
01:33:50.399 --> 01:34:00.359
would say, the subscription list is
mmmm, I would can you play three

1524
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:02.000
games? Four half to two thirds? Yeah, that's exactly what this is

1525
01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:05.399
for. Although although there are other
Sony devices that support this, Like,

1526
01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:10.359
aren't there shipping some Sony TVs?
Now that's the idea, just the Defeta

1527
01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:15.399
TV or PlayStation TV support this,
I believe, so okay, not positive.

1528
01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:19.199
If not immediately, then it's sometimes
that they I want to say they

1529
01:34:19.239 --> 01:34:23.439
said it would do. Yeah.
Some of the big names on the subscription

1530
01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:30.279
list Alpha Protocol Okay, Batman,
Arkin City, BioShock Infinite, a bunch

1531
01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:39.960
of Blaze Blue stuff, both Darksider's
games, Dirt three, Jeff Loves Doing

1532
01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:43.600
three, You Go, Infamous,
Chain, and Lynch two Kills on three.

1533
01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:46.000
I mean, it seems like Odd
Kane and Lynch two already has a

1534
01:34:46.039 --> 01:34:53.039
bunch of video artifacting as it's the
main fucking visual element, like run it

1535
01:34:53.119 --> 01:34:57.960
through one more generation of that ship, it's just gonna be a fucking giant

1536
01:34:58.199 --> 01:35:01.439
gray block that versus at you.
Some some weird stuff on here, like

1537
01:35:01.560 --> 01:35:05.640
okay, it's the Saints Row four
Saints or the third full package you Go,

1538
01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:11.319
Shout Out of the Clausus Sonic CD. Yeah, that was that was

1539
01:35:11.399 --> 01:35:13.560
rereleased as a Yeah, I know, as a PSN game. I know.

1540
01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:15.640
It's just kind of weird to see
on this list. It's it's a

1541
01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:16.840
weird list. Like the last Evis
is on here, which is great,

1542
01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:19.800
but then only the first Uncharted game
is on here. Can you sign up

1543
01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:23.119
for just like a month or two
at a time. So there's well,

1544
01:35:23.159 --> 01:35:25.960
yeah, so it's you can sign
up for it's twenty bucks a month,

1545
01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:29.359
or you can get three months at
a time for forty five, which makes

1546
01:35:29.399 --> 01:35:31.520
it fifteen a month. Oh okay, actually, but they also they have

1547
01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:34.560
a seven day free trial. You
can pop and play anything on the service,

1548
01:35:35.319 --> 01:35:39.279
okay, one time thing. Yeah, and all games are rentals.

1549
01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.479
Yes, well, you have access
to all of them on the subscription list

1550
01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:46.600
as long as you've got the subscription
active in your saves stay in the cloud

1551
01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:49.199
in case, like your subscription lapses
and you want to come back. I

1552
01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:53.000
think that's how they handled it.
I forget, I believe that's the case.

1553
01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:55.479
Yeah, make sure go back and
look at that quick look. But

1554
01:35:55.520 --> 01:35:58.880
I believe they do keep your save. Yeah that's twenty a month. That's

1555
01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:00.800
two hundred and forty eight years.
Yeah, it gets a little pricey for

1556
01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:05.359
maybe what's on there. Yeah,
but it's fifteen forty five for three months.

1557
01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:09.279
Yes, okay, that seems like
the sort of thing that like if

1558
01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:12.640
you're a PlayStation Plus member, they
should knock it down even more a month

1559
01:36:12.760 --> 01:36:15.840
or if you're already giving them,
Yeah, totally money totally. But for

1560
01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:19.920
me, it's more like beefing up
the lineup on that service, Like get

1561
01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:28.239
gets two games on there at least, if not PS two and PS one.

1562
01:36:28.279 --> 01:36:30.479
You know, like I would say, like flesh out that library dramatically,

1563
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:32.920
and then all of a sudden that
thing gets a lot more attractive.

1564
01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:36.439
You know, give me Sony image
Soft, Sega c D games, yes,

1565
01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:45.319
exactly, service perfect, maybe not
hook don't hold your breath a tiny

1566
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:46.439
little window, but it's nice to
you know, it's nice to see them

1567
01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:50.359
at least trying to figure that thing
out. Not just half of me when

1568
01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:54.279
that, when that the head dub
first started about the awful pricing on that

1569
01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:56.600
thing, half of me wondered if
that was the last we'd ever hear from

1570
01:36:56.720 --> 01:36:59.399
PlayStation now. Yeah, like they
would just never do anything else with this.

1571
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:00.000
One of the things they recommend you. You know, he's like,

1572
01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:03.039
you need to have a wired connection
to make this thing work for reels,

1573
01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:08.359
which I mean theoretically isn't like eight
to two eleven AC just as fast.

1574
01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:13.039
There's always going to be as fast
as your internet connections, Like you have

1575
01:37:13.119 --> 01:37:15.800
a pretty bad internet connection and wired, yeah, there's there's always there's always

1576
01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:19.239
gonna be some latency with wireless and
you know, yeah and stuff like that.

1577
01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:23.399
It's not exactly apples to apples,
But I don't know. I played

1578
01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:26.760
it wirelessly and it was usable.
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,

1579
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:31.479
it's more about like a secure connection
than anything like you got a constant right

1580
01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:35.680
right, right right ability? Uh, yeah, I don't know, Like

1581
01:37:36.119 --> 01:37:39.840
you know, I guess I'm in
a situation where I already own a lot

1582
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:43.439
of games for old platforms, So
like, I don't think that's a great

1583
01:37:43.479 --> 01:37:45.560
deal. But I guess if you, if the PS four is your only

1584
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:49.439
means of playing games, maybe you
sign up for a month of this and

1585
01:37:49.479 --> 01:37:51.039
fun with it for a while.
I don't know, I don't know.

1586
01:37:51.239 --> 01:37:56.159
Sure it's weird, sure, Uh
And then you know, not a whole

1587
01:37:56.159 --> 01:38:01.079
lot else happened over the holidays,
it being the holidays, Uh except this

1588
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:05.600
destiny leakue. Okay, let's hear
it. Was it a league where someone

1589
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:09.600
finally came out and said, like, yeah, you're right, it's fucked.

1590
01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:13.680
I'm working on it. I don't
think that required any inside knowledge to

1591
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:16.680
come to that conclusion. But I'm
sure you've seen this image floating around of

1592
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:23.119
this kind of no Business E presentation
showing what the roadmap is for Destiny content

1593
01:38:23.239 --> 01:38:28.960
over the next year. Apparently this
image popped up in October and nobody actually

1594
01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:32.319
saw it. It came out of
some Italian forum, supposedly. I don't

1595
01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:35.560
know if I don't know if the
idea is that the presentation itself took place

1596
01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:41.399
in Italy or if that's just you
know, where the forum was, that

1597
01:38:41.439 --> 01:38:44.399
it's a document in Italian. Not
well, no, but it's It's all

1598
01:38:44.479 --> 01:38:46.560
that's really on the slide is just
the names of these expansions and stuff,

1599
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:51.319
which could probably be in English either
way. But people picked up picked up

1600
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:54.239
on it. And it's a photo
taken in a theater. You know,

1601
01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:57.479
you can tell you're sitting in somebody
sitting in rows of people looking at this

1602
01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:01.600
thing. So it looks reasonably legit. But what it does is breakdown.

1603
01:39:02.239 --> 01:39:04.880
Here here's the roadmap. I'll just
tell you so you know, the game

1604
01:39:04.920 --> 01:39:10.199
came out in September. Jack got
it the first. The first two expansions

1605
01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:12.600
were kind of detailed right up front, you know, Dark Below came out

1606
01:39:13.079 --> 01:39:15.199
in December, ye, and then
House of Wolves is the next one,

1607
01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:18.560
which I thought he had said at
one point was coming in February, but

1608
01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:21.600
this, according to this thing,
House of Wolves will launch March tenth,

1609
01:39:23.640 --> 01:39:28.479
which is a Tuesday, for what
that's worth. That is their server reset

1610
01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:31.520
day. Yes, yes, so
that works out, and we kind of

1611
01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:34.119
already knew what was going to be
in that from other leagues and stuff that

1612
01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:41.159
have happened. Then it gets kind
of interesting, because interesting insofar as you

1613
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:43.119
want to know what the hell are
going to do with destiny? Okay,

1614
01:39:43.239 --> 01:39:45.079
yep, I do whether or not
you want to play it or do you

1615
01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:49.439
think it's good? You got to
know, right, Expansion three four planets,

1616
01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:54.359
Yes, five dollars? Oh god, no, So okay, So

1617
01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:58.399
the next expansion after House of Wolves
is uh uh? Do they have a

1618
01:39:58.479 --> 01:40:02.680
date on this thing? Let's see, there's a lot to keep up with

1619
01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:08.399
here, I'm sorry. So in
the slide they're referring to this thing as

1620
01:40:08.439 --> 01:40:13.079
a Comet Comet, which initially,
yeah, in the slide, it's listed

1621
01:40:13.119 --> 01:40:16.000
as a bigger expansion after House of
Wolves, and it's listed as Commet colin

1622
01:40:16.520 --> 01:40:20.279
Plague of Darkness. It sounds like
a planet, which a lot of people

1623
01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:24.880
initially took to think that there took
to mean that this expansion was somehow like

1624
01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:28.119
based on a Comet or revolve around
one or something like that. But then

1625
01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:32.000
a bunch of people did some digging
into like public documents relating to the activision

1626
01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:35.560
Bungee deal yeah, and determined that
Comet is just sort of their code name

1627
01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:42.000
for big kind of milestone expansions to
the game. So that makes it seem

1628
01:40:42.039 --> 01:40:44.159
like the name of this thing is
just going to be Plague of Darkness,

1629
01:40:45.199 --> 01:40:48.760
and that that's just some kind of
category that is currently listed for September of

1630
01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:55.760
this year. Thanks for the heads
up, Yeah, buckle up. Yeah,

1631
01:40:55.800 --> 01:41:00.079
you got that much time to get
to light level thirty four. So

1632
01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:03.319
here's here's what it is supposed to
do. Uh. Two new weapon types,

1633
01:41:03.359 --> 01:41:06.119
which I assume means like you know, things like shotgun and auto rifle

1634
01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:09.720
and fusion rifle. It will be
two more of those things. We're talking

1635
01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:12.840
about the third expansion now, yes, which is again like I said,

1636
01:41:12.880 --> 01:41:15.560
it's supposed to be. They're positioning
it as a much bigger thing. Three

1637
01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:18.560
new subclasses, so that would be
one per class, a new base level,

1638
01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:25.439
uh, which let's see. I
don't know if this was in a

1639
01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:29.359
separate leak, but I think what
that's referring to is they're talking about moving

1640
01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:31.560
the actual base level up to thirty. Yeah, so you would get regular

1641
01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:34.640
experience and level your character thirty and
the light on top of that, the

1642
01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:40.640
light and stuff would come into play
after thirty twelve new story missions, new

1643
01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:42.760
strikes. That doesn't say how many
all. I think somewhere else, I

1644
01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:46.279
saw like four new strikes, new
PV, new PvP maps, a new

1645
01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:51.520
raid presumably involving the Hive taking place
on one of their Hive ships, because

1646
01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:58.800
because Hive ship is listed as a
new like location in the same way that

1647
01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:03.319
Earth and the Moon and Mars and
such are, so a lot of warframe

1648
01:42:03.359 --> 01:42:09.119
novels are set on enemies. Yep. Uh, yeah, it's kind of

1649
01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:11.000
weird to me that they would do
that and not like, you know,

1650
01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:13.399
you could go to one of the
moons of Mars or you know, there's

1651
01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:15.880
lots of other actual land masses that
you could do, or even like another

1652
01:42:15.920 --> 01:42:19.520
Earth location. No whatever, man, you know that give me some Yeah,

1653
01:42:19.560 --> 01:42:24.119
a ship that sounds cool. Sure, a ship sounds cool, But

1654
01:42:24.239 --> 01:42:26.800
like I would be stoked to see
something else on Earth. You know.

1655
01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:29.479
It's like, let's go fucking run
around New York and see what that looks

1656
01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:31.439
like, or you know, there's
a lot that crisis. There's a lot

1657
01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:36.000
that could have done if you want
to see me anyway. Yeah. Also,

1658
01:42:36.159 --> 01:42:40.720
that September is when the PlayStation exclusive
stuff is supposed to also kick over

1659
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:45.479
to the Xbox. Sounds like they
will be shipping a Game of the Year

1660
01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:49.560
version of the game with that thing
and the previous two expansions all rolled in

1661
01:42:49.840 --> 01:42:54.800
number number ten Yeah bullet, Yeah, one of the ten best games twenty

1662
01:42:54.880 --> 01:43:02.079
fourteen. Ship. And then they're
saying another expansion pass after that for two

1663
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:06.800
more expansions of the size of like
the one that just came out first of

1664
01:43:06.880 --> 01:43:12.159
which will be VEX themed. Uh. And then the last one is called

1665
01:43:12.239 --> 01:43:16.479
Forge of Gods, which you know, it doesn't say much about that,

1666
01:43:16.640 --> 01:43:18.960
but it sounds like it's based on
the Cabal, which is the one race

1667
01:43:19.079 --> 01:43:24.920
that hasn't really been featured much in
this stuff. And then you have to

1668
01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:28.520
wonder. Uh Okay, actually I
don't have to wonder, because it says

1669
01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:32.119
right here after that, after that, fourth of the smaller expansions says late

1670
01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:38.039
twenty sixteen or early to mid twenty
seventeen, as Activision's contract requires a sequel

1671
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:42.520
to Destiny is released. Yeah,
players can transfer characters over from Destiny one

1672
01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:47.119
to Destiny two Center, et c. So that if if that's how they

1673
01:43:47.199 --> 01:43:51.880
handle it, as a like a
transfer characters over from two instead of it

1674
01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:56.039
being one cohesive universe. Yeah,
I think it's really disappointing. Yeah,

1675
01:43:56.039 --> 01:43:59.880
I'm kind of with you, uh, although I don't know what I mean

1676
01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:01.279
to be seen, Like what they
would even do with that old content if

1677
01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:04.239
it was all are you talking about, like you would buy Destiny two and

1678
01:44:04.279 --> 01:44:09.600
it would install under the banner of
Destiny on your console. I think that's

1679
01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:12.119
exactly how this. I would like
that too. I would prefer to have

1680
01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:15.279
like a World of Warcraft style thing
that just builds on itself. Sure what

1681
01:44:15.359 --> 01:44:17.399
it sounded like, Yeah they were
talking about. I mean it would be

1682
01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:19.880
nice to have access to aff I
have to put in an old disc to

1683
01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:25.000
access old worlds and old story missions
and stuff like that. I think they've

1684
01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:27.199
fucked up. Yeah, you're probably
right, and you know, like yet

1685
01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:29.439
another way. Yeah, and you
know, World Warcraft has gotten a lot

1686
01:44:29.479 --> 01:44:31.239
of mileage out of old content by
giving you like the heroic versions of the

1687
01:44:31.359 --> 01:44:33.479
raids and stuff like that. You
know, like you let people go back

1688
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:38.199
and do those things again at a
really high level, and it seems valuable

1689
01:44:38.239 --> 01:44:41.359
to people. I'm with you,
it would be nice to see that happen.

1690
01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:46.279
But I don't know. Four small
expansions and one big one and that's

1691
01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:48.760
the end of the story on Destiny. I think that it makes sense for

1692
01:44:48.840 --> 01:44:51.079
them to do, Like, you
know, obviously they're not going to make

1693
01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:56.319
Destiny an annual game because Bungee is
not an annual studio. Yeah, but

1694
01:44:56.439 --> 01:45:00.800
I think that having like a content
drop at about the one year mark,

1695
01:45:00.920 --> 01:45:03.239
yeah, it makes perfect sense that
is larger than an expansion, and then

1696
01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:08.439
provide two more expansions off the back
of that as a kind of Destiny one

1697
01:45:08.520 --> 01:45:13.359
point five, I think is sensible
for a game with the lifespan that they're

1698
01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:17.079
talking about. Like that all sounds
plausible, I'll say that much. Sure,

1699
01:45:17.520 --> 01:45:21.000
and consistent with what they've done up
to this point. Sure, but

1700
01:45:21.159 --> 01:45:24.119
I've not done much up to this
point. No, you're right, so

1701
01:45:24.319 --> 01:45:27.319
it's kind of hard to you know. It kind of this kind of dashes

1702
01:45:27.399 --> 01:45:30.720
my hopes that this game would ever
become like the kind of wider world that

1703
01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:33.840
you would want out of this style
of you know, like a questing in

1704
01:45:33.960 --> 01:45:39.079
loot game like like Wow, or
even Borderlands or something like. You want

1705
01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:41.319
to feel like there are a lot
of different places you could go and a

1706
01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:43.159
lot of different things you could do
at one time, right, like having

1707
01:45:43.239 --> 01:45:48.720
one zone that is connected to another
one of this walk from one's own hip,

1708
01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:50.960
Like it would be nice if there
were two raids at the same time

1709
01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:54.520
and you can kind of decide what
you wanted to focus on, right sure,

1710
01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:56.760
Like wow does it you know?
Whereas like this thing, it's like,

1711
01:45:56.800 --> 01:46:00.000
oh, it's one raid per expansion, so everybody's going to be doing

1712
01:46:00.039 --> 01:46:01.680
in the exact same thing at all
times and have the same weapons at all

1713
01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:04.920
times. And you know, in
a game that's not going to have the

1714
01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:08.600
player base is something like World of
Warcraft, it probably makes sense for them

1715
01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:15.560
to focus characters players around the new
ship. Yeah, and maybe that'll be

1716
01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:21.640
a case against keeping Destiny one content
and Destiny two content separate, because you'll

1717
01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:25.039
get to a point where you go
to match make for old strikes and not

1718
01:46:25.159 --> 01:46:28.680
find anyone. Sure, sure,
yeah, I really do hope they find

1719
01:46:28.720 --> 01:46:32.680
a way to keep that stuff consistent. First of emails of twenty fifteen.

1720
01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:39.960
It's time to read them all right. Emails Emails bombcasttgibomb dot com is the

1721
01:46:40.039 --> 01:46:45.880
email address where you can send the
emails in this brave new future of hours,

1722
01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:49.840
I love it where electronic communication has
been enabled from place to place between

1723
01:46:49.880 --> 01:46:55.039
distant locations ones and zeros. You
can send an electronic mail and it will

1724
01:46:55.079 --> 01:46:58.760
get here in seconds. It's incredible. Make sure you type mode binary,

1725
01:46:58.800 --> 01:47:04.079
otherwise you're downloading a text fu Yep, yep, all right. First email

1726
01:47:04.239 --> 01:47:10.720
comes from Brian and Indianapolis, who
says was Vinny Wright. No, I

1727
01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:14.840
don't know, stay tuned. During
the first BombCast of twenty fourteen, Vinny

1728
01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:16.239
said, you know, I don't
want to be a bummer here, but

1729
01:47:16.279 --> 01:47:20.199
does anyone feel like twenty fourteen is
just the holding pattern or excuse me,

1730
01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:25.760
the holding period for twenty fifteen?
How fucking right was he says Marian.

1731
01:47:26.119 --> 01:47:28.800
Yeah, I guess I could kind
of see that. A lot of games

1732
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:33.399
got delayed. Yeah, a lot
of just bullshit to wade through there,

1733
01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:38.800
you know, and a lot of
just kind of delaying weird transitional period into

1734
01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:42.920
the next gen, a lot of
a lot of general fuckery and strife that

1735
01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:45.720
feels like will come out the other
end of better for in a weird way,

1736
01:47:45.880 --> 01:47:48.640
I think a lot of people expected
this to be or twenty fourteen to

1737
01:47:48.720 --> 01:47:51.079
be the year that they got a
lot of use out of their new consoles.

1738
01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:54.479
Though, because I remember twenty thirteen, it's like, yeah, the

1739
01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:57.039
libraries aren't great right now, there's
not much to play. But next year,

1740
01:47:57.119 --> 01:47:59.720
next holiday, that's all the real
stuff's gonna come out. And now

1741
01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:02.960
we are waiting for for another year. Yeah, I remember. I think

1742
01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:05.720
a year after the three sixty came
out was like, all right, now

1743
01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:08.920
we're now, we're picking up speed. Here we go. I saw him.

1744
01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:12.920
But yeah, has not been the
case a year after the three sixty,

1745
01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:15.880
I mean we already had oblivion and
Gears of War was like several months

1746
01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:17.840
after. But yeah, like I
know, I've I know, I've hammered

1747
01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:24.119
the Gears example ad nauseum. But
like Gears in this example, Gears came

1748
01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:27.319
out six weeks ago. So think
about that, Like, if we had

1749
01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:30.680
had our Gears of War moment on
these machines, it would have happened already,

1750
01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:33.560
did we. I don't know.
The sunset over drive your Gears of

1751
01:48:33.600 --> 01:48:41.199
War moment for the Xbox one,
not not so much is drop keep it

1752
01:48:41.239 --> 01:48:45.039
coming? Yeah, keep it coming
your Gears of War moment? For no,

1753
01:48:46.159 --> 01:48:49.159
all right, we'll take a third
party. Is Destiny your Gears of

1754
01:48:49.239 --> 01:48:55.680
War moment? Nah? Nope,
nope. Gears War was fulfilling and engaging.

1755
01:48:56.119 --> 01:49:00.600
Gear's War looked fucking amazing and it
came out and I mean, yeah,

1756
01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:01.840
blah blah, kill switch or whatever, but like it was, you

1757
01:49:01.920 --> 01:49:05.680
know, yeah, it still felt
fresh, like it was doing stuff that

1758
01:49:05.720 --> 01:49:10.039
you hadn't really seen the co op
online like, yeah, like did it

1759
01:49:10.119 --> 01:49:13.680
better than any of us that proceeded
it. It was this was this whole

1760
01:49:13.720 --> 01:49:17.239
marriage of like incredible graphics and like
online features and new gameplay mechanics, and

1761
01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:19.319
it's just like, wow, video
games are here, and it was not

1762
01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:24.119
an Unreal tournament game, which is
scary and weird for a while, and

1763
01:49:24.199 --> 01:49:26.119
you're like, no, okay,
all right, all right, these big,

1764
01:49:26.159 --> 01:49:29.399
thick, unreal looking dudes can told
chains all guns. I guess that's

1765
01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:34.560
fine, let him talk, sure, give him a dog. I don't

1766
01:49:34.600 --> 01:49:40.520
know who knows what they should make
a new Unreal Championship. I think did

1767
01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:43.840
you ever play on Real Championship too? As? Yeah? Played as rating?

1768
01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:46.680
What was weird? Oh? Yeah, he was in that. Yep,

1769
01:49:46.840 --> 01:49:49.520
yeah, that's pretty cool. He
was blitz. He was Yes,

1770
01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:54.279
rating gets around. I don't know
if you've heard cool dude. He's a

1771
01:49:54.319 --> 01:49:58.560
god of the thunder god. Yeah, he gets his he knows what to

1772
01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:01.399
do. I sort of felt like
you know, Dan on twenty fourteen when

1773
01:50:01.479 --> 01:50:05.600
assembling my top ten Games of the
Year list. But then once I had

1774
01:50:05.640 --> 01:50:08.800
written it all, I was like, all right, some good games came.

1775
01:50:08.960 --> 01:50:11.800
Yeah, there's like an individually some
really good games. I just don't

1776
01:50:11.840 --> 01:50:16.199
feel like the overall it wasn't an
embarrassment of riches like last a few years.

1777
01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:20.640
No, I didn't feel like there
were a lot of standout classics.

1778
01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:27.479
Yeah, well you usually get all
right, James from Gosport in the UK.

1779
01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:30.720
One wish for the New Year,
If you guys could have one game

1780
01:50:30.760 --> 01:50:35.079
industry related wish come true starting from
January first, twenty fifteen, what would

1781
01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:39.199
it be? I think mine would
be for Valve to finally step up and

1782
01:50:39.239 --> 01:50:43.159
address the elephant in the room.
They're awful worst in industry support infrastructure.

1783
01:50:43.680 --> 01:50:45.640
That's not what I thought he was
gonna sit at all. What I thought

1784
01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:47.439
he was gonna say when I first
read this Anyway, thanks for reading,

1785
01:50:47.479 --> 01:50:50.720
and hope you all have an amazing
new year. I've never had to engage

1786
01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:55.319
team support, so I didn't know
that it was thought to be that terrible.

1787
01:50:56.319 --> 01:51:00.960
I don't know, I don't know, and say that I have I

1788
01:51:00.359 --> 01:51:04.319
thor all right, well, hit
me with your wishes. What what one

1789
01:51:04.399 --> 01:51:12.000
thing? I want a remastered version
of WF WWF No Mercy and WrestleMania two

1790
01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:15.680
thousand. Still I don't know if
you can have booth just one same thing

1791
01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:19.680
pretty much package deal. Alright,
alright, I want the next big single

1792
01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:25.880
player Mario game, like the successor
to Galaxy Too, like big, Like

1793
01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:29.119
I know three D World is awesome, but I want the next official Mario

1794
01:51:29.199 --> 01:51:31.640
games. Say, and you guys
are thinking small, just want new games

1795
01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:34.279
like I want Middle of Your Solid
five to come out, Like that's that's

1796
01:51:34.319 --> 01:51:38.439
hardly gonna happen this year. Yes, they said it would. I just

1797
01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:42.359
wanted to super happen and and sooner
like like damn it, like next week.

1798
01:51:42.960 --> 01:51:46.600
What if you could wish for like
I want Dan's wish, can't I

1799
01:51:46.720 --> 01:51:49.920
want to? I want to wish
for unlimited game wishes. There you go,

1800
01:51:50.159 --> 01:51:54.600
that's a good idea. I've gone
and done it. You know what

1801
01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:58.720
my wish is to never hear the
words half Life three again until there's a

1802
01:51:58.760 --> 01:52:02.920
half Life three. It's not bad. Yeah. I wish for the bandwidth

1803
01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:08.560
infrastructure to grow at such a rate
that are all digital nightmarish future can come

1804
01:52:08.600 --> 01:52:11.880
to pass. Yeah, that's a
good one. And player counts can be

1805
01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:14.880
higher than sixteen yeah on consoles.
Okay, that's a good one. Yeah.

1806
01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:21.199
I want robust multiplayer great experiences.
Okay is that informed? Is that

1807
01:52:21.319 --> 01:52:26.960
informed by your recent hassles? Maybe? Yeah? Okay, Well some of

1808
01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:29.399
these wishes at some point, shouldn't
we just settle for? Like it'd be

1809
01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:31.279
great if every game that ship this
year I fucking worked as advertised? So

1810
01:52:31.359 --> 01:52:34.439
what I changed my mind? I'll
sacrifice my wish on that altar. Yeah,

1811
01:52:34.479 --> 01:52:38.119
I wish that every game, that
every product that ships this year works

1812
01:52:38.159 --> 01:52:41.199
as advertised. How about that?
All right? Then I'll wish for halfway

1813
01:52:41.239 --> 01:52:46.479
through. Damn uh all right,
I had somehow I have thumbed my way

1814
01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:49.359
out of the emails. Give me
a second, Well, I find the

1815
01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:57.319
next one. Uh, here we
go. What is ice climber? Says

1816
01:52:57.439 --> 01:53:02.359
Robert R. From Lah. Yeah, that's a great question. What is

1817
01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:05.279
Ice Climber? The characters were in
that Smash Brothers game, so they must

1818
01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:08.960
be kind of popular, right,
Yeah, how was the game received?

1819
01:53:09.119 --> 01:53:12.680
Was the game of critical or commercial
success? Did it have any noteworthy mechanics?

1820
01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:15.319
It sold twenty seven million copies?
And back in the eighties, do

1821
01:53:15.399 --> 01:53:18.800
you guys actually have an opinion about
Ice Climber? Does anyone care about Ice

1822
01:53:18.840 --> 01:53:23.039
Climber? What is Ice Climber music? This play is the music, and

1823
01:53:23.119 --> 01:53:27.039
Ice Climber that plays when you're in
the bonus stage is fantastic. That game

1824
01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:30.279
is not fun, though I liked
it time. Man, I was a

1825
01:53:30.359 --> 01:53:32.720
sucker. I was an idiot kid
that just liked every game I could play

1826
01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:35.199
back then, and even then,
I remember thinking the kidd i Chris and

1827
01:53:35.279 --> 01:53:39.399
Ice Climber were the two like first
party Nintendo games that, yeah, these

1828
01:53:39.439 --> 01:53:43.319
aren't that fun. Ice Climber was
co op, you know, it was

1829
01:53:43.359 --> 01:53:45.880
better fucking Snow Brothers. Snow Brothers. Well, yeah, Prince Nick and

1830
01:53:45.960 --> 01:53:54.159
Tom the Snowbros. Yeah, of
course, Ice Climber really hard. It's

1831
01:53:54.199 --> 01:53:56.800
not like known for being super harder. But the platforming is weird. It's

1832
01:53:56.800 --> 01:54:00.520
just the jazz fields jumping in the
player movie Sword of Sucks. It's like

1833
01:54:00.560 --> 01:54:03.199
Ghosts and Goblin's Jumps where it feels
so restrictive. And I think I was

1834
01:54:03.239 --> 01:54:08.199
getting get confused with Splunker in terms
of difficulty. No, yeah, Splunkers

1835
01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:15.079
fucking hellish nightmare like Spelunky look easy. Yeah uh yeah. Ice Climber kind

1836
01:54:15.119 --> 01:54:17.439
of like came and Win, right
they never made anything else? Oh yeah

1837
01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:20.760
yeah. Actually, to me,
Ice Climber and Wrecking Crew are the two

1838
01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:25.960
games that are just like in and
out Boom boom. Maybe maybe Urban Champion

1839
01:54:26.039 --> 01:54:30.319
and mock Rider are on that list
too. Balloon Fight is just jousted and

1840
01:54:30.359 --> 01:54:32.600
it's great. Ye, How long
until the Wrench from Wrecking Crew is have

1841
01:54:32.680 --> 01:54:36.600
a Smash Brothers game. I'm surprised
they haven't. Great, that's the kind

1842
01:54:36.680 --> 01:54:40.720
of deep cut I want. Get
a Smash Brothers game. Fucking Wrench,

1843
01:54:41.319 --> 01:54:45.000
that fucking thing you make your own
levels, that's a great idea. And

1844
01:54:45.039 --> 01:54:48.680
Wrecking Crew and Iceland not a mock
Rider. Mock Riders this piece of shit.

1845
01:54:48.800 --> 01:54:53.920
And mock Rider is the first game
I returned out of it being garbage.

1846
01:54:53.960 --> 01:54:56.560
I got it as a gift and
said, fuck, this can do

1847
01:54:56.680 --> 01:54:59.319
that. Back then, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, before, Yeah,

1848
01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:01.239
because you could. It will take
stuff back for any reason within thirty days.

1849
01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:03.760
It's like, why are you changed
back? Because it sucks. Shit,

1850
01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:09.760
he's pretty awesome. Yeah, there's
some good music in there, but

1851
01:55:10.199 --> 01:55:14.079
seriously, fuck mock ck Yeah that's
pretty shitty. All right, Well it's

1852
01:55:14.119 --> 01:55:15.600
on the record now. They should
have made a sequel to Ice Climber.

1853
01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:19.640
Also, the two characters didn't stick
together like they do in Smash Brothers.

1854
01:55:19.720 --> 01:55:23.760
It was just a two player co
op game, so they just have different

1855
01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:27.720
colored parks. Yeah, it's like
a blue, like a pinkish reddish.

1856
01:55:28.359 --> 01:55:30.560
There's a big mean bird at the
top of the level. Yeah, you

1857
01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:32.359
had to jump up and grab onto
get the bonus. Most video game birds

1858
01:55:32.399 --> 01:55:35.840
are assholes. I mean this was
established its well, you know what the

1859
01:55:35.880 --> 01:55:39.920
best name for a video game bird
is, say, Mario Brothers too.

1860
01:55:40.159 --> 01:55:45.039
It's the albatross that throws bombs and
his name is Albatass. Yeah, right,

1861
01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:47.000
name for that thing. Yeah,
I think you've brought that up on

1862
01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:49.359
this podcast. I really like Alba. I'm not blaming you. I'm not

1863
01:55:49.439 --> 01:55:51.920
saying I'm just you know, I'm
saying that's how I know you. Really,

1864
01:55:53.520 --> 01:55:57.079
that's a good name. I understand
the full strength of your conviction on

1865
01:55:57.159 --> 01:56:00.680
this opinion that that's the best name
for a bird that tosses in a video

1866
01:56:00.760 --> 01:56:02.520
game. Out with us and I
have. I find it hard to disagree

1867
01:56:02.560 --> 01:56:06.720
with you. Burdo's pretty good,
Burto Burgo's not even a bird? Yeah,

1868
01:56:08.119 --> 01:56:11.039
how did I think about it?
Fry guy? Mouse is a mouse?

1869
01:56:12.039 --> 01:56:15.079
Isn't a fry guy that? It's
a flame with sunglass? A living

1870
01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:19.720
flame? Is it fry guy or
is it Flamer? I can't remember a

1871
01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:23.560
mouse her. It's an arcade game
called pop Flamer, where you're a mouse

1872
01:56:23.600 --> 01:56:26.199
with a water tank on your back
and you gotta go shoot at fires.

1873
01:56:26.680 --> 01:56:30.359
It's pretty good, Okay, it's
fraga, Okay, Flamer. I'm pretty

1874
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:34.239
sure I was wondering if fry Guy
was the isn't at the McDonald's McDonaldland.

1875
01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:41.039
Okay, but then there's also shot
guys. That's true. Although Flame with

1876
01:56:41.079 --> 01:56:44.079
Sunglasses is the coolest of all three
though. It's pretty good. It's pretty

1877
01:56:44.079 --> 01:56:47.199
good, nothing shy about being on
fire, and then it turns into four

1878
01:56:47.279 --> 01:56:50.880
little flames that chase your hand.
It's a scary boss fight. It's fucked

1879
01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:56.880
up. Travis and Chicago shouldn't Warrio
actually be Wa Mario? If we go

1880
01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:00.680
buy Wa Luigi being the evil version
of of Luigi, please help. Warrio

1881
01:57:01.079 --> 01:57:03.960
was first and he just turned the
W or the M upside down. Well,

1882
01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.399
then why isn't it just Wouigi?
Because that sounds stupid? You sound

1883
01:57:08.439 --> 01:57:15.680
stupid? Take that got you there? I don't know. Wall Luigi sounds

1884
01:57:15.800 --> 01:57:17.560
much funnier and Warrio makes more sense. I think it's it's I think I

1885
01:57:17.640 --> 01:57:23.359
think Way Luigi is funnier. There's
some Japanese pun with what is as bad

1886
01:57:23.439 --> 01:57:27.920
as the adjective bad bad or even
so there is that. But also I

1887
01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:30.920
just like the I also just like
the I like the really literal idea that

1888
01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:33.600
they couldn't think of anything other than
to put Wa on the front of his

1889
01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:36.680
name to make him bad, and
they just turned the L upside down because

1890
01:57:36.680 --> 01:57:42.199
they already had an upside down him. It's great. When are they gonna

1891
01:57:42.199 --> 01:57:45.239
have an evil princess Peach and an
evil toad? Oo complete? What would

1892
01:57:45.319 --> 01:57:47.199
evil toad be like? Would he
be like tall and lanky or would he

1893
01:57:48.560 --> 01:57:55.159
come on Peach? This is well
established what toad. I think he'd just

1894
01:57:55.239 --> 01:58:00.199
be like the poisonous mushrooms the purple
one. Yeah. Perfect, and he's

1895
01:58:00.239 --> 01:58:04.760
got a goatee and angry eyes.
Yeah he's no captain, that's for sure.

1896
01:58:04.880 --> 01:58:06.960
No, he's not. I need
to play more of that game.

1897
01:58:08.439 --> 01:58:12.279
Good. I want to see them
like spin it back around again and have

1898
01:58:12.720 --> 01:58:24.920
ma Wario like the good version of
Argo. Oh man Luigi m hm,

1899
01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:31.319
oh boy. Michael writes in about
a feet of strength, Hey guys,

1900
01:58:31.399 --> 01:58:33.840
second, phone books is a trick. He just fucking you. Gotta prep

1901
01:58:33.880 --> 01:58:36.520
the phone books first. Next question, no, no hold on for this

1902
01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:40.640
one, hey guys, sending this
on Christmas Eve. This question came up

1903
01:58:40.640 --> 01:58:45.439
while giving my wife a Footmos Christmas. If you had to, could you

1904
01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:48.119
pull off someone's finger or toe with
your bare hands? I mean like,

1905
01:58:48.359 --> 01:58:51.479
I mean, like off bare handed. My wife and I both think yes,

1906
01:58:51.680 --> 01:58:56.279
yea toe. It's too short and
you couldn't get a good grip on

1907
01:58:56.359 --> 01:58:59.800
it, right, yeah you I
mean not in just one yank you would

1908
01:58:59.800 --> 01:59:01.960
have So I do a lot of
back and forth, like God, I

1909
01:59:01.960 --> 01:59:04.359
don't I wish I hadn't brought this
up. Now, really rerenched out of

1910
01:59:04.359 --> 01:59:06.199
there. Once you break the bone, you know the rest is coming.

1911
01:59:06.520 --> 01:59:11.800
Fashes. Yeah, now that I'm
imagining the mechanics of this, like if

1912
01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:14.760
anything, if anything, you'd want
to break the bones so savagely that you

1913
01:59:14.800 --> 01:59:16.199
could then use the point of the
bone to kind of pierce the flesh.

1914
01:59:16.359 --> 01:59:20.079
Yeah. Yeah, because I don't
know that you're just gonna rip the flesh

1915
01:59:20.199 --> 01:59:25.800
by you with the strength of your
own You can't bite, no, okay,

1916
01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:28.840
he says, pull off someone's finger
or toe with your bare hands.

1917
01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:31.359
Yeah, I don't think so.
You're not getting a toe. I don't

1918
01:59:31.399 --> 01:59:34.119
think so either. Ducks, I
can pull your favor of right now?

1919
01:59:35.439 --> 01:59:41.760
All right, I bet you can't. I don't think you can't. Well,

1920
01:59:41.960 --> 01:59:45.520
in uh, in the book that
one hundred and twenty seven Hours is

1921
01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:48.960
based on, he has to like
cut almost all the way through his arms.

1922
01:59:49.079 --> 01:59:51.840
Yeah, but it didn't he have
like climbing gear or something. He

1923
01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:59.119
had a dull pocket knife. God's
fun. Fuck would like human strength just

1924
01:59:59.560 --> 02:00:06.000
like me pulling Dan's finger. Yeah, do it. The book is called

1925
02:00:06.079 --> 02:00:10.800
Between a Rock and a Hard Place
God, that's yep. Yeah. I

1926
02:00:10.840 --> 02:00:14.760
don't think it's possible. I don't
either. I think it's only not possible

1927
02:00:14.800 --> 02:00:16.600
if you're putting like time limits on
it or trying to get it all in

1928
02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:19.439
one one tug. Yeah, I
give it a couple of days. You

1929
02:00:19.479 --> 02:00:23.800
can tug it as long as you
want. You're eventually gonna get results.

1930
02:00:23.960 --> 02:00:29.159
I don't know potensil strength of skin. Yeah, I don't like this so

1931
02:00:29.319 --> 02:00:31.680
much. I'm getting light. Eventually
you break the bones well enough that you

1932
02:00:31.680 --> 02:00:35.000
can just spin the whole thing around
and keep spinning that skin. Eventually,

1933
02:00:35.000 --> 02:00:41.239
he's gonna break. Michael from Fuller
to California writes in The Skin Spinner.

1934
02:00:42.640 --> 02:00:46.159
He's escaped from prison. He's on
the loose the asylum. Michael as a

1935
02:00:46.239 --> 02:00:53.880
question about backwards compatibility and ripping human
flesh. I mean, uh, he

1936
02:00:54.000 --> 02:00:57.119
asks, is the reason that we
are seeing a lot of rereleases of season

1937
02:00:57.159 --> 02:01:03.600
of American Horror Stories weird? Uh? Yes. He wants to know if

1938
02:01:04.039 --> 02:01:09.279
the reason that we're seeing lots of
rereleases of previous gen console games is due

1939
02:01:09.319 --> 02:01:12.479
to the fact that the systems aren't
backwards compatible, so there's a market for

1940
02:01:12.760 --> 02:01:16.520
those games that would normally be filled
by the backwards compatibility. I feel like

1941
02:01:16.920 --> 02:01:19.960
I'm sure that helps, yeah,
but I feel like the primary impetus is

1942
02:01:20.239 --> 02:01:23.840
like, oh God, we gotta
get some games out and make money.

1943
02:01:24.359 --> 02:01:26.960
Those are cheap projects. Yes,
those are Yeah, like the old Man,

1944
02:01:27.039 --> 02:01:30.560
those consoles sold pretty well. Yeah, we should probably put some stuff

1945
02:01:30.600 --> 02:01:32.239
out so people buy games for it. Also, these new games were making

1946
02:01:32.359 --> 02:01:36.439
are taking way longer than we expected
and cost a lot to make. We

1947
02:01:36.439 --> 02:01:40.239
should put some stuff out. I
mean, they'd have a lot harder time

1948
02:01:40.279 --> 02:01:44.880
getting away with this stuff if the
backwards compatibility, Like you know, a

1949
02:01:44.920 --> 02:01:46.479
lot of people would opts to just
put in their old copy and play that

1950
02:01:46.560 --> 02:01:54.279
again. But but I don't think
the primary motivation is there's no backwards compatibility,

1951
02:01:54.279 --> 02:01:58.039
so let's capitalize. It could be
wrong, Jason, how many times

1952
02:01:58.079 --> 02:02:01.159
would you say you've bought some form
of street Fighter two, some fourm of

1953
02:02:01.239 --> 02:02:09.159
street Fighter two, cross the board, downloadable cartridge, Super Nintendo remakes over

1954
02:02:09.239 --> 02:02:13.079
ten Yeah, yeah, okay,
yeah yeah really yeah. I'm sitting here

1955
02:02:13.119 --> 02:02:15.039
and trying to think how many different
versions there have been now, unless I

1956
02:02:15.079 --> 02:02:19.079
mean, are you counting like every
iteration of Turbo and Super and Super Turbo

1957
02:02:19.199 --> 02:02:23.920
all street Fighter two? Yeah,
anything in the separate products that have street

1958
02:02:23.960 --> 02:02:27.680
Fighter two every name. If we're
talking about like street Fighter four or something

1959
02:02:27.800 --> 02:02:31.640
like that, that's like I've I've
bought everything you know from you know,

1960
02:02:31.720 --> 02:02:39.000
PS three to Xbox three S and
PC stuff, So all those iterations hundreds

1961
02:02:39.359 --> 02:02:45.199
thousands of dollars probably between what that
game and like joysticks and ships thousands.

1962
02:02:46.640 --> 02:02:50.159
Yeah, holy moly, Yeah,
there's been a lot of money invested.

1963
02:02:51.439 --> 02:02:55.000
You forgot some news, fer it's
a lot of street fighter. Yeah,

1964
02:02:55.039 --> 02:02:57.439
what's that? You forgot some news? What news did I forget? Stern

1965
02:02:57.520 --> 02:03:00.000
announced that they're making a WrestleMania pinball
machine. I didn't see that, but

1966
02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:02.920
please go on. Yeah, they're
showing it at CES. Okay, it

1967
02:03:03.039 --> 02:03:08.600
is the one piece of CS news
the matter see that they are making.

1968
02:03:08.720 --> 02:03:12.680
They have gotten the ww E license
and they're making a pinball machine that has

1969
02:03:12.880 --> 02:03:16.840
John Sina brock Lessner at all on
the backglass and it has a wrestling ring

1970
02:03:16.960 --> 02:03:19.039
in the on the playfield. Okay, how is it going to be just

1971
02:03:19.159 --> 02:03:21.960
focused on the current product, because
I feel like there's so much you could

1972
02:03:21.960 --> 02:03:26.560
do if you can go back to
the pro edition version of the so that

1973
02:03:26.920 --> 02:03:30.039
it's not only it's not enough that
they're making a pinball machine that is expensive

1974
02:03:30.079 --> 02:03:31.840
on its own, they then go
make a limited version of it. On

1975
02:03:31.960 --> 02:03:36.359
top of that. They do this
with all their tables and they limited one

1976
02:03:36.439 --> 02:03:41.000
is signed by hul Cogan. Wow
is he in the table anyway? I

1977
02:03:41.000 --> 02:03:42.840
don't know, he's not on the
back. Is this the first? Like

1978
02:03:42.920 --> 02:03:45.800
this can't be the first wrestling thing? There's a royal rumball, pinball table

1979
02:03:47.279 --> 02:03:55.600
or something. People that like wrestling
now like this wrestling the most. I

1980
02:03:55.640 --> 02:03:57.800
would say, children. Well,
I mean they're kids, it's all they

1981
02:03:57.840 --> 02:04:00.199
know, those idiots. I don't
Well, I mean, are you talking

1982
02:04:00.199 --> 02:04:03.800
about just WWE, because there's a
lot all kind of popular wrestling, but

1983
02:04:03.960 --> 02:04:06.199
you know, mainly since it got
really big in the eighties. I mean,

1984
02:04:06.399 --> 02:04:09.479
like, is that era you know, it is the kind of the

1985
02:04:09.520 --> 02:04:12.680
Hogan era. It's still looked back
on as like the era No, no,

1986
02:04:12.880 --> 02:04:16.520
because it was just filled the giant
idiots like Hercules Hernandez that couldn't move

1987
02:04:16.560 --> 02:04:18.880
around at all, and they just
were big and that's the whole reason they

1988
02:04:18.880 --> 02:04:23.079
got hired. But match Man,
oh yeah, that's you had the Macho

1989
02:04:23.119 --> 02:04:26.000
Man's and the rocky steamboats and the
beginnings of Bret Harts and Sean Michael's Big

1990
02:04:26.039 --> 02:04:28.920
boss Man. Yeah, he's for
a big guy. He could County Georgia.

1991
02:04:29.199 --> 02:04:33.199
Yeah, just officer that was kind
of war police officers uniform he did.

1992
02:04:33.359 --> 02:04:35.039
Yeah, and then when he turned
evil, he just had like a

1993
02:04:35.119 --> 02:04:41.319
black iron chic. Yeah. I
think the in ring product, Roddy Roddy

1994
02:04:41.359 --> 02:04:45.640
Piper, those are those are fucking
names. Okay, yes, you are

1995
02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:48.439
right, but also Stone Cold,
Steve Austin and the Rock. Yeah,

1996
02:04:48.439 --> 02:04:53.840
I guess I don't know, you
know, I feel like, you know,

1997
02:04:54.039 --> 02:04:59.319
and I'm not I'm the fairest of
fair Weather Wrestling fans or whatever,

1998
02:05:00.199 --> 02:05:01.560
but I don't feel like I don't
feel like a lot of the big names

1999
02:05:01.600 --> 02:05:04.479
have had the kind of over the
top flamboyance that those guys had, you

2000
02:05:04.520 --> 02:05:08.560
know, like those were some real
fucking characters. Well. Yeah, part

2001
02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:11.760
of the problem in like the two
thousands was that like all the top guys

2002
02:05:11.800 --> 02:05:15.399
were just hey, here's a dude
and underpands. That's yeah. Like the

2003
02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:18.800
current product is influenced by you know, mixed martial arts and that sort of

2004
02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:24.039
stuff to some extent where and also
just like the general intelligence of the audience

2005
02:05:24.119 --> 02:05:26.680
to some extent, Like you can't
put it over on the kids like you

2006
02:05:26.800 --> 02:05:29.520
used to be able to, where
like you know, you probably had some

2007
02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:33.319
people thinking the Undertaker was real and
and you know, like that because because

2008
02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:39.560
he was surrounded by a cast of
increasingly insane characters that were also supernatural and

2009
02:05:39.680 --> 02:05:44.359
weird, Whereas now it's, yeah, you know, you got guys wrestling

2010
02:05:44.439 --> 02:05:46.920
under their real names because that's what
UFC is, and that's you know,

2011
02:05:47.399 --> 02:05:51.640
like the other stuff is too far
fetched to to that's just more down to

2012
02:05:51.680 --> 02:05:55.840
audience taste than like, you don't
have to be fooled by something to be

2013
02:05:55.880 --> 02:05:59.039
able to enjoy it. And it's
true occasional things they're like Bray Wyatt can

2014
02:05:59.119 --> 02:06:03.560
summon like Holly Graham ghosts with his
magical There is so fucking weird dumb shit

2015
02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:08.279
in there still, but you know, generally speaking, Sergeant Slaughter, Yeah,

2016
02:06:08.560 --> 02:06:12.720
fucking drill instructor wrestles, Yeah no, And the was awesome, fucking

2017
02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:18.039
christ Man unbeatable and then he turned
evil. Yeah, Iraqi sympathizer, Sergeant

2018
02:06:18.079 --> 02:06:24.920
Slaughter think about that. Yeah,
what a great turn turn time for our

2019
02:06:24.960 --> 02:06:29.319
country. Oh man, I just
this just makes me realize that more and

2020
02:06:29.399 --> 02:06:32.279
more that the focal point of all
of my wrestling fandom comes down to playing

2021
02:06:32.359 --> 02:06:36.359
that fucking arcade game that was a
Saturday night Slam Masters and a Pizza Hut.

2022
02:06:38.199 --> 02:06:41.840
Yeah, it's like that game is
wrestling to me, Slam Masters,

2023
02:06:42.239 --> 02:06:47.039
Slam Slamsters, the Capcom Wrestle Fast
Rustle, the Royal Rumble Game. I

2024
02:06:47.079 --> 02:06:50.359
think who made the Was there a
Data East game? Yeah, Data Well

2025
02:06:50.359 --> 02:06:53.600
Technos made him, or maybe it
was Technical I don't know. I forget

2026
02:06:53.600 --> 02:06:56.399
which one it was. But Russell
Fast was along the big like super Beefy.

2027
02:06:57.479 --> 02:07:00.520
That might it was mister perfect holding
put a hand on his when he

2028
02:07:00.600 --> 02:07:08.359
was hurt. That might have been
the one. That's wrestling and Andre and

2029
02:07:08.439 --> 02:07:11.319
Virgil I remember, we're like the
story focused like they did something evil and

2030
02:07:11.359 --> 02:07:13.439
you had to work your way up
and beat them, like he put a

2031
02:07:13.479 --> 02:07:17.079
bounty out for you or something something
like that. Wrestling, it's pretty cool,

2032
02:07:17.800 --> 02:07:21.039
is Don't worry. It's twenty fifteen
and somewhere Jeff Jarrett is still recovering

2033
02:07:21.079 --> 02:07:25.920
after having hit someone in the head
with a guitar Japan. In Japan at

2034
02:07:25.960 --> 02:07:28.680
this time, are you are you
guys in on that now? I saw

2035
02:07:28.720 --> 02:07:31.800
Alex's subscribed, you know, so
that this this thing that just happened in

2036
02:07:31.880 --> 02:07:35.680
Japan over the weekend Kingdom was Yeah, it was aired on on American pay

2037
02:07:35.680 --> 02:07:41.640
per view with English commentary Ross commentary, Yes, huh, that man's got

2038
02:07:41.760 --> 02:07:46.199
a bird spitting image of arn Anderson. He did say, yeah, oh

2039
02:07:46.239 --> 02:07:48.840
my god, it need d We'll
have more to say about that show in

2040
02:07:48.880 --> 02:07:53.960
the power. I'm you didn't like
we call that a frog splash. I

2041
02:07:54.000 --> 02:07:58.000
don't care what you call. Jesus, this guy looks like it, you

2042
02:07:58.039 --> 02:08:01.640
know, a young ricky steamboat.
It's like you could hear Matt Striker rolled

2043
02:08:01.760 --> 02:08:03.079
like I felt bad for Matt Striker, which how often can you say that?

2044
02:08:03.319 --> 02:08:05.920
Anyway? Well, yeah, well
all right, let's steer away from

2045
02:08:05.920 --> 02:08:09.319
this a whole separate podcast. We're
talking about down fucking train wreck. All

2046
02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:15.199
right, all right, Adam writes
in pretty short to the point subject line.

2047
02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:20.000
Also, all these all these sentences
are ended with question marks subject line

2048
02:08:20.199 --> 02:08:24.880
sweary and Dan's mom, and then
in the body they go on with like

2049
02:08:24.039 --> 02:08:30.520
success question marks after it, I'm
driving, but the seems important. They

2050
02:08:30.600 --> 02:08:33.600
totally did it. There's they did? Wait did it? Did what?

2051
02:08:33.960 --> 02:08:35.920
I didn't hear about that one?
My mom? We were trying to keep

2052
02:08:35.920 --> 02:08:37.479
it from you. Oh okay,
no, it's it was just one of

2053
02:08:37.520 --> 02:08:43.079
those weird moments to where I was
up here looking for apartments when I knew

2054
02:08:43.079 --> 02:08:46.680
I was going to be moving up
here, and my mom came up to

2055
02:08:46.720 --> 02:08:48.319
help me look around, and I
knew some folks that were out of the

2056
02:08:48.359 --> 02:08:50.800
bar, and I went up and
met up with them, and swear He

2057
02:08:50.960 --> 02:08:54.319
was with them, and I just
remember, like the idea of my mom

2058
02:08:54.439 --> 02:08:58.960
and Sweary being at a bar together
drinking beers and like talking to each other.

2059
02:08:58.520 --> 02:09:01.479
It was just the weirdest, dumbest
thing. And this like, you

2060
02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:07.000
know, my mom, who's a
waitress in Kansas, the entire time I

2061
02:09:07.079 --> 02:09:09.960
grew up and then Sweary at a
bar. I mean, there wasn't anything

2062
02:09:11.039 --> 02:09:13.039
super crazy that I happened. It's
just one of those things, right to

2063
02:09:13.039 --> 02:09:15.239
stand back and look at and be
like, so, this is what's going

2064
02:09:15.279 --> 02:09:18.359
on now the sides of the planet. Like the two most opposite people there

2065
02:09:18.439 --> 02:09:22.640
ever could be just drinking beers together
in San Francisco, which was great.

2066
02:09:22.680 --> 02:09:26.399
Pretty there's a picture of them together
together in San Francisco. That's me.

2067
02:09:26.840 --> 02:09:31.039
That's pretty great, short on short
on insanity, but still nothing crazy,

2068
02:09:31.399 --> 02:09:39.560
but pretty, you know of pretty
endearing. H Calum from Melbourne in Australia.

2069
02:09:39.199 --> 02:09:43.560
You know, Okay, I've heard
of it Melbourne. They let him

2070
02:09:43.600 --> 02:09:45.800
write letters over there, I guess, so, all right, good behavior

2071
02:09:45.840 --> 02:09:50.239
and all that. Yeah, cautionary
tale. I don't know how this will

2072
02:09:50.239 --> 02:09:52.399
play out in other regions. And
I hadn't heard this, but it seems

2073
02:09:52.399 --> 02:09:58.039
crazy. New three DS does not
come with a charger. What did we

2074
02:09:58.119 --> 02:10:01.000
know that Nintendo has done that before? But in this country? But yes,

2075
02:10:01.079 --> 02:10:03.880
they they there is a history,
I believe. I want to say

2076
02:10:03.920 --> 02:10:09.359
that the history of Nintendo shipping a
platform without the ac adapter doesn't seem like

2077
02:10:09.439 --> 02:10:11.399
something in the box get away with
here necessarily, but that is not something

2078
02:10:11.600 --> 02:10:13.520
they could get them out. And
then that thing, you know, for

2079
02:10:13.560 --> 02:10:16.439
people who don't know that thing is
out in New Zealand and Australia. Really

2080
02:10:16.640 --> 02:10:20.359
yeah, it came out like a
month ago. Oh yeah, for whatever

2081
02:10:20.359 --> 02:10:24.039
reason, that's the first territory outside
Japan that it's shipped in. Why not

2082
02:10:24.359 --> 02:10:26.159
you know those guys something first for
change, even if it's just the new

2083
02:10:26.199 --> 02:10:30.119
three DS. Yeah, sure,
I'm gonna buy one of those. Well

2084
02:10:30.159 --> 02:10:31.680
yeah, of course, but like
there's like a game announced for it,

2085
02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:35.720
right, I'll play old games on
it. I don't know if you don't

2086
02:10:35.720 --> 02:10:37.039
play zena clash. But are you
gonna play old games and go like this

2087
02:10:37.119 --> 02:10:39.479
still is in three D? Put
it in a case and yeah, there

2088
02:10:39.520 --> 02:10:43.119
you think about it once in a
while. That's what my current three DS

2089
02:10:43.199 --> 02:10:46.439
is doing. Yep, I'll read
the email, even though I feel like

2090
02:10:46.479 --> 02:10:50.079
we've kind of covered it. This
Christmas, I received a fancy new three

2091
02:10:50.159 --> 02:10:54.560
DS as a gift. Fortunately,
it was a replacement for my launched three

2092
02:10:54.600 --> 02:10:56.359
DS, so I had power power
cable I could use charge it up.

2093
02:10:58.000 --> 02:11:01.640
The new three DS does not come
with an act a USB cable you could

2094
02:11:01.640 --> 02:11:05.199
plug into an adapter or any other
equipment that could charge its battery. The

2095
02:11:05.359 --> 02:11:11.239
instruction manual recommends you purchase one with
the console or use a cable from another

2096
02:11:11.319 --> 02:11:16.000
three DS. The console retails for
two hundred and nineteen dollars here in Australia,

2097
02:11:16.199 --> 02:11:18.239
XL is two forty nine. However, the luxury of being able to

2098
02:11:18.319 --> 02:11:22.920
charge it will set you back another
fifteen If you want one of those little

2099
02:11:22.960 --> 02:11:26.000
charging cradles that shipped with the Launch
three DS, that's fifteen dollars. Again.

2100
02:11:26.880 --> 02:11:28.720
This is perhaps the sleaziest thing I
have ever seen Nintendo do, and

2101
02:11:28.720 --> 02:11:33.479
I'm sure many people were caught out
Christmas morning without a charger. Can you

2102
02:11:33.560 --> 02:11:37.039
think of any other game companies that
have made similarly sleazy decision. I'm actually

2103
02:11:37.079 --> 02:11:41.079
surprised that it shipped like this in
a territory outside Japan. Yeah, that's

2104
02:11:41.319 --> 02:11:43.760
interesting, right, I mean I'm
crazy. You think the thinking is that,

2105
02:11:43.800 --> 02:11:46.159
at least in Japan, everybody already
has a three DS. No,

2106
02:11:46.359 --> 02:11:50.239
I think that just in Japan,
they're used to putting up with total bullshit

2107
02:11:50.720 --> 02:11:54.720
and this has happened before, so
you just know to get one or they

2108
02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:58.680
Yet they have to put a sign
up. I'd imagine, you know,

2109
02:11:58.800 --> 02:12:01.800
in any territory thing but a sign
says, motherfucker you need power. Yeah,

2110
02:12:03.079 --> 02:12:05.640
yes, like they should make it
very clear. Like it almost reminds

2111
02:12:05.720 --> 02:12:09.840
me of like what was the first
console to ship without a pack end wasn't

2112
02:12:09.840 --> 02:12:13.640
he would be the PlayStation Saturn.
I know the PlayStation didn't have one.

2113
02:12:13.720 --> 02:12:20.159
I think I had like a demo
disca Saturday Saturn. I want to say

2114
02:12:20.319 --> 02:12:22.920
Saturn. I don't think it did. No, it's not Satura came with

2115
02:12:22.000 --> 02:12:26.159
Virtue. No, they eventually packed
in remix. Yeah, I don't think

2116
02:12:26.199 --> 02:12:33.039
it can't we snass Genesis turmographics all
head back ends. Yeah. I think

2117
02:12:33.079 --> 02:12:37.439
it came with Virtue of Fighter one. I think the Saturn launched with VF

2118
02:12:37.640 --> 02:12:41.159
one as a pack end. I
could be fucking crazy. I don't know.

2119
02:12:41.239 --> 02:12:43.920
Could it have been virtual a cop
Maybe Nope, because that requires like

2120
02:12:43.760 --> 02:12:48.520
it wasn't It wasn't virtual racing nope. Or Daytona or something, right,

2121
02:12:50.119 --> 02:12:54.920
wasn't They wouldn't pack in Daytona,
would They don't think there was a pack

2122
02:12:54.000 --> 02:12:56.279
end? Maybe not anyway. I
mean the point is it was around that

2123
02:12:56.399 --> 02:13:01.079
time when packend stopped and it was
like the reck scrash moment of like,

2124
02:13:01.199 --> 02:13:03.800
wait, I gotta remember to buy
a game. I gotta save up money

2125
02:13:05.000 --> 02:13:07.399
beyond the console so I actually have
something to play on it. I played

2126
02:13:07.560 --> 02:13:11.680
a PlayStation demo disk for like two
months, really actually had a game,

2127
02:13:11.760 --> 02:13:18.399
really, no shit. I selected
Toshndon as my game purchase and ESPN Extreme

2128
02:13:18.520 --> 02:13:26.000
Games yep, yeah, Bridge Racer
Man, come on right yeah? Because

2129
02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:31.239
techn was not a launched Yes,
Techen was later, so I guess thank

2130
02:13:31.319 --> 02:13:33.800
you, Federal Trade Commission. Yeah, I don't. I don't know what's

2131
02:13:33.880 --> 02:13:37.600
up with this. This is weird. I wonder if it'll surely it'll ship

2132
02:13:37.680 --> 02:13:43.359
here with some kind of power.
Yeah. Uh, although I'm almost surprised

2133
02:13:43.399 --> 02:13:46.359
they haven't started just shipping. Well, the Vita guests did more or less

2134
02:13:46.399 --> 02:13:50.960
exactly this, like just shipping USB
cables for charging. I mean, granted

2135
02:13:50.039 --> 02:13:54.720
the Vita came with a brick,
right yeah. Uh. In addition,

2136
02:13:54.199 --> 02:14:01.439
but you know the ubiquity of USB
as such that you almost get away with

2137
02:14:01.520 --> 02:14:03.520
that. At this point, what
are you looking up over there? I

2138
02:14:03.600 --> 02:14:05.279
was trying to look up at games. I can tell if something is happening.

2139
02:14:05.279 --> 02:14:09.000
I'm trying. I'm trying to look
up packing games, but this page

2140
02:14:09.079 --> 02:14:11.439
is not. Do you think any
packing has had the impact of WE Sports?

2141
02:14:13.359 --> 02:14:15.439
I mean, no, one's gonna
doubt that, Like Mario World is

2142
02:14:15.479 --> 02:14:18.640
a billion times better as a game. You're talking and talking like cultural h

2143
02:14:18.920 --> 02:14:22.960
like kind of yeah, the cultural
response and the ability to move more consoles,

2144
02:14:24.079 --> 02:14:28.520
getting the system into people's houses and
demonstrating what's the pros of the system.

2145
02:14:28.600 --> 02:14:30.680
Yeah, we sports without a doubt. I think I don't think anything

2146
02:14:30.720 --> 02:14:33.600
touches that combat. I say,
Tetris on Game Boy, Oh that was

2147
02:14:35.039 --> 02:14:37.760
that was up there? Yea,
oh fuck, I forgot to buy Tetris

2148
02:14:37.920 --> 02:14:41.640
on the fucking shop before they delicted
it. Anybody get it? Oh?

2149
02:14:41.760 --> 02:14:45.359
No, that the game the game
Boy, the game Boy version of Tetris

2150
02:14:45.479 --> 02:14:48.159
was removed from the virtual console.
I already have a copy of that.

2151
02:14:48.199 --> 02:14:52.399
I meant to buy it on three
DS, just because I mean, why

2152
02:14:52.439 --> 02:14:58.520
wouldn't you? Yeah, touches,
have you have you satisfied curiosity? Nope?

2153
02:14:58.840 --> 02:15:01.159
I have not found the answer,
no question, specifically looking at multiple

2154
02:15:01.239 --> 02:15:07.359
database pages Saturn, specifically packing games
and for the Saturn and did not.

2155
02:15:07.439 --> 02:15:09.479
I'm going I'm looking at my phone. So may if I opened up my

2156
02:15:09.520 --> 02:15:13.720
laptop and do some power users,
I guess stuff. Sure, Dan might

2157
02:15:13.760 --> 02:15:18.560
be right because I remember like a
white sleeved demo disc for Saturn, like

2158
02:15:18.640 --> 02:15:24.399
amoa, I remember a white sleeve, like a white sleeved Virtual Fighter one

2159
02:15:24.720 --> 02:15:31.119
or maybe that's Saturn. Are you
sure VF wasn't after the fact, like

2160
02:15:31.319 --> 02:15:35.239
once they realized they're getting their asses
handed to him by PlayStations and they had

2161
02:15:35.319 --> 02:15:39.039
to do something by Saturned before the
PlayStation was available. Really, any of

2162
02:15:39.119 --> 02:15:43.199
you other guys get early Saturns?
You never had a Saturn? Yeah,

2163
02:15:43.199 --> 02:15:46.840
I didn't get an early one.
I was given one by a friend years

2164
02:15:46.960 --> 02:15:48.800
later, I had a I had
a buddy that imported one. Yes,

2165
02:15:48.880 --> 02:15:52.159
I knew some Saturn importers. I
didn't like that guy, but damn if

2166
02:15:52.159 --> 02:15:56.960
I didn't go to his ass every
weekend, that's pretty good. He might

2167
02:15:56.000 --> 02:16:01.520
be listening right now. PlayStation first, Twisted Metal was that a that that

2168
02:16:01.640 --> 02:16:05.600
wasn't a launch game? Wasn't It
might have been a launch game, but

2169
02:16:05.800 --> 02:16:11.319
yeah, I played it at a
blockbuster after PlayStation A Destruction Derby or Demolition

2170
02:16:11.359 --> 02:16:13.680
Derby was a Destruction Derby or is
Destruction Derby? That was a launch game?

2171
02:16:13.800 --> 02:16:18.319
Right? It was super early because
I got mine early and the three

2172
02:16:18.359 --> 02:16:20.239
I got were Twisted Metal, the
First tech In and Destruction Derby. Those

2173
02:16:20.239 --> 02:16:24.239
are the three games I got,
and Destruction Derby was good and early.

2174
02:16:24.520 --> 02:16:26.800
Yea, uh yeah, there's a
Jewel case version of Virtual Fighter on the

2175
02:16:26.840 --> 02:16:30.720
Saturn that was packed in with the
system. I'm pretty sure that's what I

2176
02:16:30.800 --> 02:16:35.440
have, But at launch, I'm
pretty sure that I have. Then later

2177
02:16:35.520 --> 02:16:39.360
they did a three free games promo
once like shit was starting to get a

2178
02:16:39.440 --> 02:16:46.959
little hairy. Yes, did that
have a stall in it? I don't

2179
02:16:46.959 --> 02:16:50.360
know what that end? That was
a two D platform, Yeah, I

2180
02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:54.719
remember that who made that? That
was? Ah? No? Or was

2181
02:16:54.760 --> 02:17:00.520
a clockwork night that was included?
Oh it's like giving away a big let's

2182
02:17:00.559 --> 02:17:05.639
let's piece of garb. Yeah,
poove on a disc. This is getting

2183
02:17:05.680 --> 02:17:09.040
silly, all right? Uh this
comes from user name. The three pack

2184
02:17:09.159 --> 02:17:15.559
was VF two Virtual Cops and Daytona. That's a lineup. You want to

2185
02:17:15.559 --> 02:17:18.159
buy a thousand of them? This
guy's selling them on eBay for five grand.

2186
02:17:18.639 --> 02:17:22.600
Thousand? Were they like the three
three and they weren't three retail games?

2187
02:17:22.719 --> 02:17:26.680
Was it some kind of like you
got the full size case everywhere like

2188
02:17:26.719 --> 02:17:30.000
three free games. No, you
did not get a full size case of

2189
02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:33.319
the sleeve. Or but they were
the full games not demo. Yeah you

2190
02:17:33.440 --> 02:17:35.719
know, but I mean you didn't
get the retail packaging. And I'm saying

2191
02:17:35.760 --> 02:17:37.799
no, no, no, But
this guy is a thousand of the East

2192
02:17:37.000 --> 02:17:41.000
fucking Maybe I should go on.
No, you have to buy all thousand.

2193
02:17:41.600 --> 02:17:43.159
Oh it's a lot. Yeah,
fuck five grand. You can get

2194
02:17:43.159 --> 02:17:48.719
a thousand. That seems steep,
stocking stuffers for the rest of your life.

2195
02:17:48.799 --> 02:17:52.319
Five grand seems free. Sega Saturn
Games is an outlandish for that three

2196
02:17:52.399 --> 02:17:54.920
great Sega Saturn Games, Like he
should be paying you to get all that

2197
02:17:54.920 --> 02:18:01.159
shit out of his house. That's
ridiculous. Five thousand dollars with the fuck

2198
02:18:01.360 --> 02:18:03.239
get a thousand of them? You
really think those things are worth five bucks

2199
02:18:03.280 --> 02:18:07.200
a pop? No, come on, but you get a thousand of them

2200
02:18:07.239 --> 02:18:09.879
like sealed mint, like you know
new Like, where the fuck are you

2201
02:18:09.920 --> 02:18:13.079
gonna get those? I mean,
if you're gonna tell me that you're gonna

2202
02:18:13.079 --> 02:18:18.479
mail one to Dave Lang every day
for the next what three years? I

2203
02:18:18.520 --> 02:18:22.520
mean, I'm not gonna do that, but someone probably should. I don't

2204
02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:28.959
know. Oh, you're probably right. Uh. User name Riven aka Defiant

2205
02:18:28.840 --> 02:18:31.920
with a pH. Just so he
knows who he is. He included his

2206
02:18:33.000 --> 02:18:35.360
real name and occupation, which is
really cool, but he asked not to

2207
02:18:35.440 --> 02:18:39.479
read it on the air. But
thanks for writing in man. He wants

2208
02:18:39.559 --> 02:18:41.000
is he a phone freaker? Is
that he's got the pH? And though

2209
02:18:41.399 --> 02:18:48.159
no, he's he's he's serving the
nation by building red box yep. He

2210
02:18:48.200 --> 02:18:54.040
writes about ten you okay, Uh
specifically want to consider himself dishonorably discharged,

2211
02:18:54.840 --> 02:18:58.399
specifically wanted to know where the hell
it is? Uh? Ten You was

2212
02:18:58.399 --> 02:19:00.920
a game I love and I used
to always look forward two. Where the

2213
02:19:01.000 --> 02:19:03.479
hell are the new Tensu games?
Why did they stop getting made? Is

2214
02:19:03.479 --> 02:19:05.200
there a chance we might see one
on the Xbox One? Or PS four

2215
02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:09.600
Assassin's Creed. Sorry, let's just
finish the email. Slass Creed doesn't really

2216
02:19:09.600 --> 02:19:13.600
fill the gap, and neither due
to the dark Souls sque games. Uh?

2217
02:19:13.319 --> 02:19:16.799
Come on, where are my deliberate
ninja games like Tenshu not spastic games

2218
02:19:16.879 --> 02:19:20.159
like the Guidance series. They put
out a shitty three sixty one. It

2219
02:19:20.239 --> 02:19:24.639
was a downloadable game. It's called
like Tensu z X or something, and

2220
02:19:24.680 --> 02:19:26.920
I remember it really was disappointing good
and prior to that, I don't know.

2221
02:19:28.479 --> 02:19:33.639
Yeah, Shadow tens You Shadow Assault
I believe was the download the Did

2222
02:19:33.680 --> 02:19:35.799
we look at that? When did
that? There's a Shadow Assault on the

2223
02:19:37.200 --> 02:19:41.879
x Yes, that's a downloadable Xbox
game, Tensu Shadow Assault. And then

2224
02:19:41.079 --> 02:19:45.520
TENSI Shadow Assassins came to PSP and
we in two thousand and eight. I

2225
02:19:45.559 --> 02:19:48.559
think I do remember that, and
then that game I believe was the cord

2226
02:19:48.600 --> 02:19:52.360
of this was originally released. A
Tensu four is the one called ZX or

2227
02:19:52.440 --> 02:19:56.559
something. I don't know why you're
thinking of ninja guidance yabu no no,

2228
02:19:56.959 --> 02:20:00.879
and then specifically think that like maybe
two thousand eight, two thousand and seven,

2229
02:20:01.600 --> 02:20:03.319
I could have sworn it was at
Tension this Tenshu Z for the Xbox

2230
02:20:03.399 --> 02:20:07.959
three sixty's yeah, that's it.
So the series has not been entirely dormant.

2231
02:20:07.040 --> 02:20:11.600
It hasn't. But yeah, you
know, some stuff happened like it

2232
02:20:11.639 --> 02:20:15.719
wasn't really some weird ownership stuff.
Who was like from Software owned it right,

2233
02:20:16.479 --> 02:20:20.760
Acquire developed those games. I believe
Namco put out a game a few

2234
02:20:20.840 --> 02:20:24.639
years ago that was supposed to be
like a spiritual successor. I think they

2235
02:20:24.719 --> 02:20:26.239
had a lot of the people that
worked on Tenshu, but yeah, they

2236
02:20:26.319 --> 02:20:31.799
had to go under a different name
because I remember a TGS twenty ten or

2237
02:20:31.840 --> 02:20:33.959
twenty eleven seeing it, and they
were making a big deal out of this,

2238
02:20:35.079 --> 02:20:37.200
being like this is like the spiritual
successor to Tenchu. But I don't

2239
02:20:37.840 --> 02:20:43.120
even remember what the hell that was
called. Uh yeah, I seem to

2240
02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:46.239
remember that someone trying to market a
game as the game from the Tenshu people,

2241
02:20:46.360 --> 02:20:48.959
and then like kind of way of
the Samurai and those games were also

2242
02:20:50.000 --> 02:20:52.840
Acquire. I want to say that
was kind of what they got into it,

2243
02:20:52.959 --> 02:20:56.280
sort of like a weird cult following
around those games. Yes, and

2244
02:20:56.639 --> 02:21:00.200
I think I feel like I remember
Joe Fielder being a big fan of the

2245
02:21:00.239 --> 02:21:01.840
samurai, always a huge tens You
got too. Yes, Yeah it was

2246
02:21:03.440 --> 02:21:05.920
Okay, that's that. That checks
out. Yeah, people, Yeah,

2247
02:21:05.959 --> 02:21:09.959
Acquired did the Way of the Samurai
stuff and that sort of stuff as well,

2248
02:21:09.000 --> 02:21:13.120
so they kind of took that detour. And I believe that was where

2249
02:21:13.479 --> 02:21:16.559
it was one of those things where
it was for a different publisher, so

2250
02:21:16.600 --> 02:21:18.600
they'd you know, it was no
longer tens You, but it was still

2251
02:21:18.719 --> 02:21:22.959
sort of trying to satisfy some of
those needs, but they were kind of

2252
02:21:22.959 --> 02:21:26.639
making a different thing on top of
that. So I want to say that,

2253
02:21:26.760 --> 02:21:31.639
like, was it Activision published Tensu. That sounds weird and or at

2254
02:21:31.680 --> 02:21:37.239
least in this country, and something
weird went down with Tenshu. Yeah,

2255
02:21:37.399 --> 02:21:41.000
if I remember right, I think
I remember something. I don't remember what

2256
02:21:41.079 --> 02:21:45.040
it was, Yeah, but yeah, I think it's one of those things

2257
02:21:45.079 --> 02:21:46.840
where the name tens You got held
up in some right stuff and that's why

2258
02:21:46.879 --> 02:21:48.920
you don't necessarily see a lot of
them. But I also feel like that

2259
02:21:48.959 --> 02:21:52.680
series kind of ran its course in
its time, and you know, yeah,

2260
02:21:52.799 --> 02:21:56.719
I think on some level it's probably
due for like, yeah, someone

2261
02:21:56.920 --> 02:22:00.680
should make a good Ninja stealth game. Yeah, I mean there's been some

2262
02:22:00.760 --> 02:22:03.600
good interesting stuff happening in stealth,
you know, Like granted, Market Ninja

2263
02:22:03.680 --> 02:22:05.920
was a two D game, but
I thought that did some really smart stuff.

2264
02:22:07.760 --> 02:22:11.000
Uh you know, I mean,
I know some of the more kind

2265
02:22:11.000 --> 02:22:15.159
of hardcore stealth purists probably feel like
that stuff is getting deluded a little bit,

2266
02:22:15.200 --> 02:22:16.399
but absolutely, yeah. And I
mean, but you know, that's

2267
02:22:16.719 --> 02:22:20.079
you could say that about all games, like they're they're trending towards accessibility,

2268
02:22:20.280 --> 02:22:24.319
sure to a wider audience. When
it comes to your game is being put

2269
02:22:24.360 --> 02:22:28.000
out on disc. Yes, it's
a smarter way to make money. M

2270
02:22:28.680 --> 02:22:31.040
I don't know that putting out games
on disc is a smart way to make

2271
02:22:31.440 --> 02:22:39.000
period a wider audiences. I forgot
to write, or to include rather the

2272
02:22:39.120 --> 02:22:43.479
name of the person who sent this
email, and looking back on it,

2273
02:22:43.520 --> 02:22:46.799
I want to say they did not
include a real name anyway, So that's

2274
02:22:46.840 --> 02:22:50.840
okay. But they offer a Noby
Noby Boy annual updates, right, all

2275
02:22:50.920 --> 02:22:54.840
right, Hey, guys, just
wanted to give you a check in for

2276
02:22:54.920 --> 02:22:58.639
Noby Noby Boy. Last year,
Girl and Boy reached the furthest planet from

2277
02:22:58.639 --> 02:23:01.440
the Sun, Neptune. However,
everyone's favorite non planet, Pluto, is

2278
02:23:01.520 --> 02:23:05.680
still the next goal of the Noby
Noby boy community. After that, no

2279
02:23:05.760 --> 02:23:09.760
one is sure if Alpha Centauri is
reachable or if our quest is over,

2280
02:23:09.120 --> 02:23:13.760
but we can all dream. For
the record, we started this adventure to

2281
02:23:13.840 --> 02:23:16.799
the stars two thousand, one hundred
and forty four days ago. As of

2282
02:23:18.000 --> 02:23:24.879
second January twenty fifteen, took voyager
way longer. Yeah, girl is really

2283
02:23:24.959 --> 02:23:28.760
booking? Wait, yeah, refresh
my memory. Girl is the thing that's

2284
02:23:28.799 --> 02:23:31.600
traveling right, Girl travels? And
boy? Is what your boy? A

2285
02:23:31.680 --> 02:23:35.440
hanger on? You are boy passenger? No, you are just you.

2286
02:23:35.879 --> 02:23:41.040
His stretching out contributes two girls length. Yeah. So the more you stretch,

2287
02:23:41.200 --> 02:23:45.760
boy, the more girl grows.
Boy. I wish I had somebody

2288
02:23:45.879 --> 02:23:48.399
had sat me down when I was
like thirteen and giving me this talk and

2289
02:23:48.479 --> 02:23:52.200
happy pac Man, pac Man,
and then watch the match happen. A

2290
02:23:52.239 --> 02:23:56.840
lot of things would have made a
lot more sense back then. I bought

2291
02:23:56.920 --> 02:24:01.879
Noby Noby Boy back then, ever
launched it nice? Is it like?

2292
02:24:01.959 --> 02:24:05.120
Could you go back to it?
Obviously people are still messing Yeah, it's

2293
02:24:05.159 --> 02:24:09.520
a weird it's a weird thing.
Something that's still going. Yeah, I

2294
02:24:09.639 --> 02:24:13.239
pulled some numbers. I ran the
numbers. Okay on this all right,

2295
02:24:13.440 --> 02:24:16.040
finally some hard facts. I would
love for somebody to check my math just

2296
02:24:16.120 --> 02:24:20.000
to make sure. And it's very
fuzzy. But if it if it took

2297
02:24:20.079 --> 02:24:22.200
them this long, or if it
took them as long as it did to

2298
02:24:22.200 --> 02:24:26.959
get to Neptune, by my calculations, it will take them another forty seven

2299
02:24:28.079 --> 02:24:33.719
thousand, seven hundred and seventy seven
years to reach Outpha Centauri. Wow,

2300
02:24:33.959 --> 02:24:39.399
like actual Earth years. Yes,
I'd probably die before that. Probably you

2301
02:24:39.559 --> 02:24:43.600
hand down your PSN accounts and yeah, I don't think the key would be

2302
02:24:43.680 --> 02:24:46.920
operable for that long. You could
buy a backup, I guess, just

2303
02:24:46.120 --> 02:24:52.559
buy every PS three left and just
keep it going PlayStation now. Uh yeah,

2304
02:24:52.079 --> 02:24:56.879
yeah, I I guess. I
guess at some point we will hear

2305
02:24:56.920 --> 02:25:00.879
about them hitting Pluto and then curious
to hear if the anything else after that?

2306
02:25:01.120 --> 02:25:07.280
Right? Yeah, fuck, maybe
there's some big revelation. Yeah maybe

2307
02:25:07.360 --> 02:25:11.760
nobody nobody, Boy was the real
cube all along. That's where the extra

2308
02:25:11.840 --> 02:25:15.040
mala new comes out. That's where
that's where the eternal truth. Here is

2309
02:25:15.079 --> 02:25:22.239
the real curiosity. Yep, all
right, last email I've got from Isybeth

2310
02:25:22.399 --> 02:25:28.399
von Doom and San Diego. Hey, you guys seem to know Stardust.

2311
02:25:28.399 --> 02:25:31.040
Next time you meet him, could
you ask him if he knows and or

2312
02:25:31.239 --> 02:25:35.319
is related to Paul Stanley from Kiss. I have reason to believe he's my

2313
02:25:35.440 --> 02:25:39.959
dad. Thanks in advance. I'm
pretty sure he is not related to Paul

2314
02:25:39.959 --> 02:25:41.799
Stanley from Kiss, despite the fact
that they both paint stars on their face.

2315
02:25:41.959 --> 02:25:46.440
Okay, do you have any insight
into whether either of them is this

2316
02:25:46.520 --> 02:25:50.559
person's father? Uh? Start us. Father is a man named Dusty Rhodes

2317
02:25:50.639 --> 02:25:54.680
the American Dream. Really yeah,
Dusty Rhodes is his daddy Rhodes. He's

2318
02:25:54.680 --> 02:25:56.719
just a common man. Oh,
I didn't know what his real name was,

2319
02:25:58.000 --> 02:26:01.239
but it's Cody Rerynolds. But you
know, I mean Virjiel Reynolds.

2320
02:26:01.319 --> 02:26:03.879
Okay, all I know is star
Dust. All I know is the guy

2321
02:26:03.959 --> 02:26:05.440
in the promo unit on the front
page. Star Dust and gold Dust are

2322
02:26:05.479 --> 02:26:09.319
real life brothers. That is true. He's a cold Dust. He's the

2323
02:26:09.440 --> 02:26:11.840
guy who also dresses up in gold
paint and has been for over a decade,

2324
02:26:13.120 --> 02:26:16.520
almost twenty years now. Yeah,
yeah, but I tell you that

2325
02:26:16.559 --> 02:26:18.920
the late eighties is the last time
I paid attention to wrestling. You have

2326
02:26:18.000 --> 02:26:22.079
to believe me, Ye, sons
of the American Dream. You know,

2327
02:26:22.159 --> 02:26:26.159
I can't tell from the wording in
this email whether this person thinks that start

2328
02:26:26.239 --> 02:26:31.840
Ust or Paul Stanley is their father. I would guess Paul Stanley probably not

2329
02:26:31.000 --> 02:26:35.840
star Dust. Yeah, sweet Sapphire, We all though, that's true.

2330
02:26:35.959 --> 02:26:37.239
Yeah, we all have to find
our own cosmic key. You know.

2331
02:26:39.239 --> 02:26:43.280
Sure it sounds like good advice.
Yeah, BombCast a giant bomb dot com.

2332
02:26:45.200 --> 02:26:50.200
Send your emails there. Maybe they'll
get rid, maybe they'll get blue.

2333
02:26:50.239 --> 02:26:52.600
It's pretty happy, Yeah, it's
possible. It's pretty happy with quality

2334
02:26:52.600 --> 02:26:54.760
of the emails. Yeah, maybe
it's because we took a couple of weeks

2335
02:26:54.760 --> 02:26:58.639
off and they had time to accrue. Yeah. I feel like I feel

2336
02:26:58.639 --> 02:27:01.559
like some better ones came in.
I think we were in a little bit

2337
02:27:01.559 --> 02:27:05.319
of an email right there, for
a little bit, kicking the new year

2338
02:27:05.360 --> 02:27:09.959
off right at dumb stuff? All
right, Well, how are we gonna

2339
02:27:09.680 --> 02:27:13.399
move forward in this glorious new future? What do we do? I'm gonna

2340
02:27:13.399 --> 02:27:15.360
stop pulling my fingers so much.
What do we do? From here.

2341
02:27:15.399 --> 02:27:16.760
How's that working out? It's not
working out? Really, we managed to

2342
02:27:18.280 --> 02:27:20.479
stop you gonna need some left for
Yeah, have you managed to dislocate the

2343
02:27:20.559 --> 02:27:24.479
joint yet? No? Close?
Like I got it to crack a couple

2344
02:27:24.479 --> 02:27:26.120
of times, but like it doesn't
seem to budge. Really, I don't.

2345
02:27:26.200 --> 02:27:30.680
I don't think. I don't think
any any rips in the skin,

2346
02:27:31.000 --> 02:27:33.719
No, nothing, nothing doing over
there? Pretty good so far? All

2347
02:27:33.799 --> 02:27:37.719
right, Well, put it to
ourselves. By the end of twenty fifteen,

2348
02:27:37.840 --> 02:27:43.040
pull somebody's finger off. Someone in
this rooms listened a finger any as

2349
02:27:43.200 --> 02:27:46.719
Mike Tyson. Oh man, I'm
gonna hold you to that. Not happen.

2350
02:27:46.799 --> 02:27:50.719
It happened, Dan Record, I'll
bet anyone of you undreds, Okay,

2351
02:27:50.280 --> 02:27:52.159
you win, tell you guys,
and he'll do it. Tell you

2352
02:27:52.239 --> 02:28:01.719
what burrito I don't know, burrito
na, NA, five hundred dollars goes.

2353
02:28:01.760 --> 02:28:03.520
I mean, I think, I
think a wager with you is just

2354
02:28:03.680 --> 02:28:07.760
way more extra motivation to get it
done. Yeah, it's gonna happen.

2355
02:28:07.440 --> 02:28:11.440
It's gonna be constraints and rules.
That's like, that's otherwise Dan's gonna be

2356
02:28:11.440 --> 02:28:13.280
sitting at home every fuck right,
He's just gonna beat him. That's the

2357
02:28:13.319 --> 02:28:16.799
whole thing, is I beat him
within the calendar year. He's just gonna

2358
02:28:16.959 --> 02:28:20.000
think he's gonna he's gonna little Mac
training montage, his weight of victory.

2359
02:28:20.239 --> 02:28:22.319
That's been my entire life up at
this point. It's a little Mack training

2360
02:28:22.360 --> 02:28:24.120
montage. I'm gonna pay off this
here. All right, Well, you

2361
02:28:24.239 --> 02:28:28.440
go hit the gym, the rest
of us go do something less active,

2362
02:28:28.680 --> 02:28:33.399
except maybe Drew. And we'll be
back with more Ji bomb Cast next week.

2363
02:28:33.440 --> 02:29:00.079
Thanks for listening. M