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Exclaimer. We'd like to know before
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of tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that

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Hello, Hello, Sammy Peters on
your birthday. She's the Birthday Girl's

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Birthdays, the Birthday Girl, Happy
Birthday. Doug Doyle Louis's pressure testing his

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new stands. I just want to
say, like, for the record,

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I was way on the yeah way
he Actually I don't even think you let

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out one F bomb. No,
not at all. I like I called

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the Michael again, and if every
time I'm proud of them, I call

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boy, that's our son, that's
us, my boys, that's that's my

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boy. A great job. Welcome
back and getting told these previous podcasts,

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it's the only one that brings the
Firehouse Table to you, the Letherhead Nation,

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the true superheroes of the world,
the fire five Nation. Yep,

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that's us. We're back. We
got one more show and then we're going

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right out to Harrisburg to do the
Buffer Palooser to Harrisburg. Buffer Paloser will

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right, Mike, let's play that. Let's let's do a little advertising for

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the Buffalo. Yeah, we'll get
serious ship that. Me and Louis got

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a straighten out here. It is
you want reader or you want me to

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I don't see anything on the screen. You don't see it. I'm sharing

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it right now. Oh there is
Oh there you reading? Mike, you

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got the voice? Okay. Join
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emergency medical services, rescue, and
public safety equipment at the twenty twenty

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four Fire Expo hosted by the Lancaster
County Firemen's Association. The dates are going

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to be May seventeenth and eighteenth of
this year, and the location will be

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the Pennsylvania Farm Show Complex and Expo
Center. As Coop said in Harrisburg,

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Pennsylvania. The show hours will be
both days ten am Eastern Time to five

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pm Eastern Standard Time. Tickets,
of course will be ten dollars, but

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children nine and under are free.
And as you see and you can read

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everything else, I won't read all
of it. There's two over two hundred

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and fifty. I should say,
exhibitors, and there's plenty of sponsorship and

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partnership opportunities to go around the Fire
Expo seventeen to eighteenth May of twenty twenty

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four. Don't miss it, wow, And if you don't want to do

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any of that, just come to
the booth and drink your face off for

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me and Louis, because that's what
we'll be doing. We don't see that

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well, we don't, all right, We don't, not well, not

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before twelve doon anyway, So I
don't smell like pooped there either, So

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don't worry about excellent, all right. So we got to clear a little

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something up rough right, because we
had our feathers ruffled a little today,

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a little bit. And normally I
would do a goods rant, but uh,

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I think we should have done a
roofie rant because he was fine.

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I was good. I was good. I think I was more upset you

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will, so I don't know if
you guys remember way back we had on

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Tony buck Ruffle and the guys who
never met him before, but they heard

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from somebody who heard from somebody who
hurts from somebody that he's not a good

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guy. This is something similar to
that. So guys talk on the atennet

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and you think that my man eagle
eye ruffie over there is not gonna see

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you. Let me tell you something
contry and monfrere. My boys sees everything.

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So there's some guys talking who still
got something up their rear ends about

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women that got on the job.
I understand it. I got a dude.

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You can have whatever opinion. I
don't really care what the opinion is.

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But when you throw something on there
that says, oh, you know

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what, they're not going to ask
the hard hitting, the kiss ass.

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We kiss asked, we kiss asked, We asked these softball questions. You

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know what I say to you,
go fuck yourself. That's what I say

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to you. I'm sorry, I'm
getting a little heated, but that's what

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I say to you. You sip
behind you fucking keyboard. You know who

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me and Louis are. We're right
here. Everything we say is recorded,

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So go back and look at that
his number. I'll talk to him if

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I had some questions he wanted some
questions, tough questions being answered, like

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we haven't answered. We have asked
you, like we didn't have our chief

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and igro and asked him tough questions
about you know what the sickness, right,

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we didn't have lowist on and answer
what it was like, you know,

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getting on like that. We didn't
ask any of it. We're not

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going to ask any of those questions
tonight, right, none of those.

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On top of that, there are
guests we have to be. We're respectful

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no matter what your opin Louis say
all the time. I don't care what

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you got between your legs. As
long as I turn around on the five

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floor and you're still there, I
don't care what color you are, I

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don't care what you like. I
don't care anything. As long as we're

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doing the job together. That's all
I care about. So for all you

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guys out there who still got a
heart on from nineteen eighty two, you

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know what I mean, Man up
already. You'll go find you safe space.

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I don't know what you gotta do
either one, whatever you gotta do,

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but know that we ask. There's
a way to do it. You

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don't have to say, you don't
have to Just send us an email.

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Just send an email and say,
hey, listen, lou this thing still

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irks the shit out of me.
You know, is it possible you can

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ask these questions. How about that, that's a that's a pretty good one.

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No, no, don't do that. Don't do that. No,

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no, no, no, don't
gave man? Why right, you know,

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just bash somebody on the internet that
you have no idea because it's easy

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to do and nobody's ever going to
call you out on it. Yeah,

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well, what's the old Mike Tyson
line. People are way too comfortable saying

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things that in real life will get
them punched in the face. Right right,

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get back. And you know what, bro, that's why we came

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up with that shirt at that time
with Tony Buck, because that's what men

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do, because men don't do men
don't Yeah, hold on, Louie,

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adults don't do that. I'm all
the clumped over here. I'm all settle

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all right, let's move on.
Now. We've got a great guest on

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tonight. We're gonna ask the tough
questions, well as the question that she

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don't seem like she gives a ship
what we ask you. Honestly, she's

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done it, so whatever, I
agree, that's what I say. Right,

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and you catch out someone. You
see some of those younger those pictures

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from the wayback groof' you know,
what I'm saying. I'm not saying what

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I'm saying. Watch even now,
that's what I'm saying about. I can't

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do it well? All right,
Mike, let's commercial and on that not

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in the in the chat there,
Bro and I have a make his MOK

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with his name on it for Harrisburg
Pro. That's all I'm saying. I'll

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leave it all right, Let's bring
this young lady in here. You ready?

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Do I call it Captain? I
should, yes, question, So

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she tells me to call it Marianne. Then I'll call marian I told the

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Marianne is hotter than Ginger anyway,
So I do believe that, all right.

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Let me get that I was probably
fifty fifty back then. Probably you

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No, I'm just saying in general, if you took a survey, maybe

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it would have been fifty to fifty. I don't think it was all ginger.

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Yeah, not this Marian Marian on
Gildgenzi episode. Mike, Mike,

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you got you got the I got
it ready. I'm already coming to the

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stage, Captain Mary and on hand. Let me hear it. What's up,

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young lady? How are you guys? Pay Gilligan, I'm getting off

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the silance. He's got all the
answers. That's Mike. All right,

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before we get started, let's do
our things, all right. You gotta

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get patio. Yep. Here we
go, without further ado, I pledge

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allegiance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the Republic for

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which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all. You know. I'm gonna
stick in with the old tradition. The

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word of the night, the word
of today. Man, I don't didn't

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tell you before. The word of
the day is ginger. All right,

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let's type it up. We got
that TikTok and a getting back had probably

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disconnected. Yeah, I don't know
what'll work through it. Welcome to the

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show, Captain Monahan. You know
what it sounds like a TikTok. I

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don't know. We can while you
talk when when she's ready to answer World

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Commuter. But in the meantime we
can be Michael is Michael. I'm so

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proud of him right here, all
right, So let's go back. Let's

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go back to when Captain Monahan was
a young lady. Where you grew up,

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what made you want to be a
fine and we told me a little

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about it. We have almost almost
front of the same type of life.

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Right you were a teacher, I
want I was studying to be a teacher.

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So talk to us. Why do
you want to switch where you grew

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up? Give us a little about
the early life of miss Baby and manahad

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Oh. I grew up on Indean
Street, if they have no back in

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the day where you know, it
was not a great place to live.

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My mom was a widow. It
was what we could afford. We lived

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in a you know, three story
for a story. Woke up and I

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had no intentions. I wanted just
doga's a girl. I wanted to grow

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up, get married and have kids. And my mom, because she was

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a widow, at a very young
age, when I was six, I

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was like, oh, no,
new new. You have to learn to

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take care of yourself. So after
I graduated from high school, I mean,

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my mom was a huge influence in
my life. She conspired with her

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friend who worked at Brooklyn College to
sign me up to go to Brooklyn College.

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And next thing I know, I'm
in Brooklyn College. I'm like,

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oh, I guess I'm being a
teacher, because you know how you have

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the same schedule as kids. And
that's what I did. I went to

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school to become a teacher. I
got my master's degree in psychology, and

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I became a specialised teacher. That's
why you're I see that you're watching me.

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She's got the psychology degree, right, she's analyzing me. She's watching.

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She's always watching. You don't need
a lot out and I don't charge

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much for what school you start teaching
at. I start teaching in Ozone Park

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on Suturry Avenue. I was there
for a year and then I got a

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job in Howard Beach. I taught
emotional disturbed boys. Now it's all making

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sense. Roof. That's why she's
looking at me. I see, I

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see the look. And because you
look like a special needs coopie. Yeah,

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it could be the mohawk and it's
crazy. It could be the crazy

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eyes. I don't know, all
right, So what why all of a

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sudden you get this calling to be
a firefighter? OK? Yeah, there's

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no druma here. It's like,
so my mom remarries, you know,

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sheos my dad with her, said, she remarries. When I'm seventeen.

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She lets me live in Brooklyn with
my aunt because I was going to Saint

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Joseph's High School down downtown Brooklyn where
Metro Tech is as a matter of fact

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now and uh so my mom,
you know, we're living in a valley

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stream now and uh my brother and
his really best friend who's steady deceased.

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But there were studying for the fire
upartment written exam and I go downstairs and

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nest studying, you know, and
you know, I'm just like breaking chops,

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you know. I'm like, guys, come on, like a freaking

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monkey could cast this cast a three
year olds like, are you kidding me?

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You guys are gonna started with it
monkey, you know. So I

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was just kidding around, you know, And then my mom got win that

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it was the first time that Dwaine
could take the test. Well, the

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next thing, you know, the
way, she signed me up for Brooklyn

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College. There I was signed up
to take the fight off fantast And it

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was on a Saturday. It was
in the fall of nineteen seventy eight.

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I was already teaching, and there
I was my little teacher bowl last and

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my little plates, scared and my
little pumps going to take this test.

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And the only thing I remember about
that day is that I was like,

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there's no other women here, Like
this is odd, Like I just didn't

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guys, you were, But I
knew I wasn't paying I don't know.

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I don't know if I was.
I was just not paying attention. As

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a matter of fact, I still
have my original test. This is the

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original test I took. Wow,
she still has the original test. I

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scored a ninety. I look at
the questions wrong and go, yeah,

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you were stupid. I thought I
was so small. But yeah, so

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this is the original test. Let
me ask you this. When I when

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I took the test, I was
thinking, like, I mean, I

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knew some five fighters, Like did
what were you thinking like for yourself?

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Like were you like you were just
going to learn to crawl around and smoke

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like we all do. But I'm
saying like we're nervous about any of this,

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to be honest with you. And
I took the written test. I

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was perfect Cabby as a teacher,
and I was just like, my mom

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wants me to do this, Okay, I'll take them. Oh and my

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brother was also taking them and test. My brother was more invested in this,

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uh, you know, clearly more
than I was. I already had

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a job that I loved, and
yeah, so I went, I took

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the written test. Uh. My
brother, my brother was a big,

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big influencer in terms of like he
wanted me to come out. Uh.

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They had some kind of training sites
set up. It was something I think

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pudgy wolfs. I think it was
pudgy wall. So my brother would go

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and you know, and my brother
was like an amateur boxer. I mean

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he really like was totally into you
know. Uh, and he helped me

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a lot, but I just I
wasn't interested. So I took the written

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and that was it. I didn't
give it another thing written. You know,

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that's a good question. I really
don't know, you know, what

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he failed because there was well you
know about that physical right, but it

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was a poors that physical where they
had to wear the mask and look like

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on the ledge or something. Yeah, and I believe that he missed that.

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Yeah, so that's where he felt
it pay because he's strong. I

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does a big guy, but he's
a strong guy. And yeah he excellent,

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excellent. But you know, so
that was that and I never really

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gave it enough thought. What he
what did he go on to do?

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He became correction off my family police. Yeah, job correct. I don't

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remember how many people ended up passing
that exam, but a lot of guys

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didn't past the exam, right,
I don't know what the numbers were,

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And that's kind of what people were
saying for the most part was that I

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guess the women were able to take
a different exam and the guys. A

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bone of contention, it still is, you're talking about like how many years,

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four years later, I'll still run
into somebody that will say, oh,

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I can get the job, but
somebody did get the job, because

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still like still whatever the he was, you know, I get that.

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I totally get that because I have
nothing to hide, I have no agenda

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here. I'm just here to have
a nice conversation. With you, gentlemen,

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and whatever you want to ask me
about that, please feel free to

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do something right. So, at
the time, did you take the original

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physical? And I never took the
physical? Do you even have a chance

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to take that? They just gave
you a different physical? Well, okay,

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this is what happened. So,
as I told you, I was

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in my little happy life, a
teacher. I got married. I was

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like, you know, living to
drink. I was totally happy. And

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I lived next door to my mother
in Valley Stream. We had a jacent

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property. So I'm living next door
to my mother in Maalo Stream. And

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somewhere in March or something like that, I don't remember. I'm sure we

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can research it, my mother comes
flying through my front door. I'm getting

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dressed, right, you know,
spool to work, and my mother comes

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flying through the front door with the
daily news in her hand. Look this

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up in the media. They're gonna
hire and wi fi. I'm kind of

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wister and you gotta walk into this
and I'm just like I was just not,

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yeah, okay, what have you
know? And then the next thing,

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you know, and I actually have
these things here. The next thing

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you know, April, I start
getting lettuce from Devil Boys Clutch. Then

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I'm part of a class action too, And of course, you know,

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look, I was really close to
my mother and my mother was always in

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my house and together there like the
boy. Yeah okay union, Yeah okay

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what. And then around April fifteenth, this was the letter where they gave

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us a letter then had an happen
to get attached to it that they were

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gonna hire forty five women and if
you were interested you had to fill up

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after David. I remember my mother
found out the office David and then taught

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me to notary to give my mother
with like and it took me to no,

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no, do it. It's just
a chance. You don't have to

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destruct. And then he has the
original postcard that they got my thing whatever.

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And at this point, to be
honest with you, I'm just trying

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to pease my mother. I'm just
like yeah, okay, yeah, okay

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okay. And then the letter that
changed my life is this in June twenty

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first, uh, nineteen eighty two, we are going to have a training

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program for the class members, which
now I'm a class member because they out

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my appetation and I'm looking at this
ill im a teacher for the summer.

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Bear in mind, I'm married to
a man from the other side. They

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came to Italy when he had son
Italy when he was turn man, what

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are you gonna do? Okay,
I'm like, no, no, it's

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okay. I'm just gonna go love. We can look at I was never

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on. I was never a wait. You know, I was a small

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woman. But you know, I
thought, you can always get shaped,

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right, you can always be mid
shape. It's Wednesdays and Saturdays. I'm

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also the summer. I'm just gonna
go to and I okay, I went

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to Motel's. I bought pink sweatcants, pink T shirt and care of sneakers

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nasty. I mean yeah, I
went to kiss Jim and your wolkids.

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You know, so I sneaks and
started going and started training for the test

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and met a lot of good people. And as the summer started to wind

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down, Uh, it kind of
oh okay, all right, I mean

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a lot because they have practice in
the test and it wasn't it wasn't it

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wasn't a revised test. Uh that
was uh. I made a court issued

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uh through justice judge this sif then
uh, because uh, look I'm not

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a lawyer than that, but they
were able to I don't know the test.

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They had the same physical for I
don't know how long. And then

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coins generally the women were allowed to
take the written Oh in that whole physical

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change, you know that? Yeah, now is that strung? And I

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really because you gotta realized I wasn't
paying attention. I mean, I'm it's

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just I really wasn't. And so
yeah, so the next thing, you

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know, the summer is winding down, and you know what, I'm here,

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I'm almost taken. Yeah, I'll
take it. And I took it.

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Yes, then and yeah, it
was very funny because the first day

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was a Wednesday. The teachers had
to come to school on a Wednesday.

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So I come to school on Wednesday
knowing I'm taking the physical Thursday. Now,

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I sent my principal down a woman, and I said it down,

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I got to talk to you,
and I said to her, listen,

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tomorrow, I'm taking a physical to
become a new city firefighter. The woman

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pretty much fell up her chair.
She thought I was coming into tar was

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pregnant. Aside my dad. I
said, I'm going to take the physical

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tomorrow. I said, if I
passed, I'm probably gonna take the job.

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If I failed, then I'll back. He'd like, nothing have happened.

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And I went, I took it. I passed when I can't And

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they told you on the spot.
It wasn't like, you know, you

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have to wait to get the car
in the mail or whatever. Yeah,

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so the spot, uh, they
knew if you passed and you failed,

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and I passed, I came home, got to give credit to my family,

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my mom, my brother, my
dear part husband, and they came

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from me. That flows make I
was like, what's gonna be wed?

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When you went down there? Did
you take that touch with Ginger? Okay,

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he's gonna have to tell you start
walking, okay, low, So

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you did take the revised physical and
you passed it. So you lower said

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the same thing. I actually have
that physical right there. Yeah, everything

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like the that's uh, I never
see no, I'm very efficient. Yeah,

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because you know what, it's a
controversy. It's a huge controversy,

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and I get it. I don't
think. I don't get my only brother

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to fail the test. But encouraged
me to go forward build a floor for

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a ball in the yard. He
took me on my he was you know,

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he wanted, and you know what, it wasn't me. It'll be

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someone else, you know, you
know what, that's what said, right,

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You know what I say, don't
hate the player, hate the game.

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That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
they put something in front of you.

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You did what you're supposed to his
work. I'm the lawsuit. Yeah,

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I'm the lawsuit. It wasn't like
she went out there picketing. They

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said that. The paperwork load said
the same. I wouldn't be said,

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right. That's so if they right
my son right now is twenty three years

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old. If if he lives on
the Loune he don't get the five points

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residency. If they sent him a
letter that says fill this out with sue

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in the city and you'll get five
points or ten points to whatever, I'd

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be like, fill that shit out. Take that job, man. Absolutely.

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The thing is you should judge people. Lib Louise say this whole time

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on the fire floor, because there's
plenty of dudes who passed that physical who

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are bags of shit. I'm sorry. There's plenty of guys who can't do

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it, or don't want to do
a job, or afraid to do the

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job. You should definitely you know, judge a person by how they act

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doing their job right, nothing else. That's it. That's what. I

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don't care what color you all,
what race, what religion, what se

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to? What doesn't matter. And
on top of that, they sent all

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the girls to you know, really
busy place is to shake him out,

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you know what I mean? Like, yeah, so that was gonna happen

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either way as well. Donut they're
going to break him out, I say

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them. I saved a lot of
stuff. Yeah. So when guys,

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you guys get the call, are
you going to the proby class right now?

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Are you in the proby class with
other guys? It's just you and

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a girl? Okay, so yeah
we get this, h Yeah, you

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pass the test. We had to
meet and people from the castle. Remember

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Lieutenant John Frenchees, who went on
to be the chief of Personnel at the

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time. We had to meet him
to be sworn in. Originally it was

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gonna be sitting well now, I'm
not sure how it changed because we were

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in someone auditorium. I think it
was Mary Berkstrom, but I wouldn't put

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money on it. Okay, but
yeah, so we get the call.

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We had to go to candidate investigation
and next see me on my list.

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I went down. There were like
three briefcases, ye know, and the

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guys god, you guys like okay, that was kind of funny. And

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then yeah he went to me.
Some one in There were women in the

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balcony of the auditorium with a huge
battom. Don't send the girl to do

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a man's job. We were told
to wear business suits and some kind of

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tie. So I was a teacher. I had all little blouses and I

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wore like a red Bullao toy.
I sat next to a Rocky Jones I

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to swear in and yeah, so
were sworn in, and then I don't

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remember the whole ceremony. It was
very exciting, but they paraded a male

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firefighter and said this is how you
look at out seven hundred hours on Monday.

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I think this was a mabeffer.
I understand I'm not exactual, but

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and there's the guy. He has
like a sight pink T shirt, the

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blue dickies that used to wear black
shoes in a black double bag, sure

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hair and rock you know, I
look at the job and I little fair

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things going on. You're not going
to make us color? Yeah, Mike,

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Yeah, yeah, give one of
those oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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that's me trying to throw the hair
out altot. I was just gonna

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say that, look, how ridiculous
is that? Look right? I was

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just no, because really I had
to come like a man, I mean,

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and that in that picture was actually
a little bit longer at that point.

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But I remember being in the bathroom
and my mother was there and and

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my husband was there, and I
was just stated, with this little man's

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here and I have the curl,
and I like a piece of you,

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like this big like and I'm trying
to like make a you know, And

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I catch them in the looking and
just laughing, and I'm devastated. I

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mean, I know it sounds silly
and superficial, but it was kind of

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yeah. That for me, that
was like oh no, yeah. So

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when you went into provy school,
were you in just with the ladies or

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are you with the other guys?
It was a regular class. Yeah.

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We had two platoon seventy five each, and then twenty squads twenty five each.

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Wait, man, how were they
in provy school? Is it like

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did you get to feel like this
is what it's going to be like when

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I get to the fire house,
Like Proby School was miserrived. They didn't

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want staff. Nobody wanted us on
this department. Nobody from the top.

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And then the message was clear,
Look, I'm gonna be honest with you

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guys. I mean, okay,
you know the first couple of days,

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go in the auditorium and you have
like the health planned people coming in and

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the pension people coming in. Now
that mehew So comes in. He gets

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on the stage. He's representing the
union and I'm not gonna use that language

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because I don't want to give Island
green and a dollar. But he gets

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up on that stage and he goes, we do you know these different women

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don't belong here but way union,
and we got to represent them. And

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he was allowed to say that.
It was allowed to stay that. There

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was no carniff. We would you
would not wanted well, you were not.

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Uh there was no uh from the
top down, any kind off.

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Yeah, nobody wanted us there and
drop out. Uh you know there were

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women that dropped out. Uh.
There was a guy o god you know,

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named h There was a guy that
his his wife he wound up becoming

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00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:04.240
an Italian aid and to fight go
and his uh wife jot Dall I can't

407
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:08.920
remember. We're gonna try and connect
your Yeah, we're gonna try and connect

408
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:15.079
your your earbudge again. Yeah,
well just came in here. In the

409
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.599
meantime, we can briefly throw to
a break and we'll put her in the

410
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.960
back room there. Would you like
to run the Salty Wire out in the

411
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:25.079
meantime? Might do it all right, Let's throw Salty Wire on. For

412
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haven't signed up, get over there
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425
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and Mike is I'm sorry, Michael
is smooth as glass. And I heard

426
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the guy that wrote it did a
pretty good job, Mike, he did,

427
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He did a very good job.
There's a lot of video in there.

428
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There's video of Rescue one from nineteen
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429
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that anywhere. So if you want
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430
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431
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432
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Oh, it's must have. And
what's good is we know the modern day

433
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.519
history of the rescues from the seventies
and eighties. We'll get back to our

434
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.760
guests momentarily, but that chronicles the
yearly days. As Coop said, so

435
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.239
without further ado, we appear to
have corrected the difficulties and we now return

436
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:20.760
you the calm. How are we
doing now? Touch this up? Good?

437
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.719
I think I'm good, I don't
know, significantly improved. Let's book,

438
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:32.360
the headphones, stag, the uh
plug plug everything in here. Don't

439
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:44.599
touch me. Don't you have no
idea? This works? Both my sons.

440
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.880
You're marking to have a whole it
T team here, all right,

441
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:53.599
have them on stand by just in
case any further difficulties present there. Know

442
00:34:53.760 --> 00:35:00.239
that the talent that you you trained
under him, funny instinct, the instinct

443
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:09.599
I was drill instruct from day one. Much better. Yeah, okay,

444
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:14.360
so yeah, we're in provy school. We get there, of course,

445
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.280
excuse me. They have nothing.
They have Oh this hair is terrible.

446
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:23.280
They have nothing. We don't have
anything. They have nothing. We don't

447
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.719
have boots, we don't have gloves. We have those yellow slickers as you

448
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.559
I don't know. You know,
they give you these yellow raincoats and you're

449
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:37.760
gonna you know, that's what you're
gonna wear for now. It looks like

450
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:43.119
a fishbowl. Yeah, you're right. And I remember when they issued us

451
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.559
to us. One of the women
raised t Han and uh, Lieutenant Sacramento,

452
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:52.119
who's kind of like a character.
You know, everything looked like an

453
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.559
effort that he was doing, you
know, and nothing do you remember,

454
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:02.840
yeah, yeah, oh okay.
So one woman raised my hand and you

455
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.960
know, and these things are filthy, and you know, she goes,

456
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.519
excuse me, uh, do they
have to be like really yellow by Monday?

457
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.039
He goes, duck yellow, duck
yellow. Okay. You know.

458
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:21.079
So we had those slickers, we
had those helmets, but in the academy

459
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.639
it was very difficult because we had
no equipment. You know, we're trying

460
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:28.480
to do knots with gloves that you
know, my finger is here, the

461
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:32.039
glove is over here. So yeah, I'm doing the knot. Stuck in

462
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:37.320
the knot. I'm like lots of
stuck in the knot. And again,

463
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:42.360
nobody want us to be there.
What I know now, which I didn't

464
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.960
know back then, was that they
picked these squad leaders based on like,

465
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:50.800
my son was a squad leader because
he was in the military. So that's

466
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.360
how they picked the squad leaders,
you know. And then we'd have to

467
00:36:53.440 --> 00:37:00.719
run every morning, and the cadence
that we ran to wash up in the

468
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.320
morning with renal days run is done. Give me some, Give me some.

469
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.960
Did they see that? What you
know, like, it was not

470
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:15.800
we were not even a thought.
We were not yeah, we're gonna eye

471
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.440
and the women. Yeah, but
we're not gonna do nothing for them.

472
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.719
And you guys going to any fire
is like were you practicing in any fire?

473
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.400
It's like, what were you doing? Well? The main issue,

474
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.880
which I have come to know h
in lady years and stuff, was the

475
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:37.599
smokehouse, because we went into the
smokehouse with the real fire. In the

476
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:43.400
smokehouse, they were putting as of
ship on this barrel of wood, no

477
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:49.960
mask, And what was really messed
up about that was again the equipment.

478
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:54.840
So we went in five at a
time, and the five people that I

479
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:59.079
was paired with, okay, the
group that were in front of us,

480
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.760
then you took their Well, the
way it lines up. I got Smitty's

481
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.679
boots, who Smitty was like six
foot four. Wait, I don't know

482
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.360
how much his foot was a man's
size thirteen or fourteen, and he has

483
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:19.119
me wearing his boots. So the
evolution was you go in the mouth cause

484
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:22.320
and you know the perth. Yeah, do you know, guys, you

485
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.480
can't see anything, there's nothing to
say, and we don't even have a

486
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:29.760
mask. So your nose is literally
literally on the floor and this little triangle

487
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.079
is where you're trying to get your
breath right, So now you're going right.

488
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.079
But every time I move forward,
my whole foot comes out of the

489
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.440
boot. I mean it's just not
yeah, one like forward. And I'm

490
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.760
trying my best, you know,
to keep these boots, keep these boots.

491
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.960
And this one lieutenant he hated us. He freaking hated us. He

492
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.880
took the heel of his boot and
he kicked me in the back of the

493
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:58.320
head and he said, you got
to keep moving, and I did and

494
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.800
whatever. Okay, great, the
evolution was over. If you remember,

495
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:07.360
we had chin straps and those helmets, there was four dots. I had

496
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:12.360
four blood dots. I had a
black and blue chin. I didn't say

497
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:16.320
a word. Okay, great,
time goes on. Now we're gonna do

498
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.239
the evolution. We're gonna do the
what is it, the hose line up

499
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.519
the fire escape, you know,
okay, whatever, the hose line up

500
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.960
the fire escape. Okay, great. We have the old style Scott's with

501
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.239
like the plate on the back where
you got to kind of jiggle it around.

502
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.039
Whatever. So I'm trying to get
my mask with Joseph and he comes

503
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:43.840
behind me and he pushes the base
of my mask boom and the seine the

504
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.000
bangs me in the head. I
turned around and goes, no, Scott,

505
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.880
like keep your hands off me.
Well forget about this by go to

506
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:58.880
SACA mano oh and Lang Lang Was
he a lieutenant or he must have been

507
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.199
a captain at the time. It
was lying very clean, caught me in

508
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:07.000
very stoic face. But anyway,
they sent me up and I'm like,

509
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.840
listen, guys, I was a
teacher before this. I know what this

510
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.880
is. He's the teacher, you're
the principal, you're the assistant principal.

511
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.320
You got to take your side.
I totally get that, but I'm not

512
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.000
gonna let him put his hands on
me. That's not going to happen.

513
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:27.599
And then they were just kind of
like they're looking at each other like okay,

514
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:32.239
what do we do situation right?
It was just nothing after that,

515
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.880
you know, thank goodness. You
know, but the smoke house people went

516
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.639
to the hospital. They had people
running around the smokehouse and then running in

517
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:50.880
and literally people went to the hospital. Purpose for you, guys, is

518
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.760
that what you're thinking. I think
they tried the best they could to get

519
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:58.079
rid of us. They filled a
that up. We were doing the car

520
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.159
for a thing with the or a
triple F at the time. They filled

521
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:08.840
that up of a trib phone and
made us jump in mmhm. And the

522
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.320
reason was they were trying to get
rid of us. They would do whatever

523
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:19.119
they could to get rid of us. I mean they really were. I

524
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:24.039
mean, you know, I just
uh, I look back and I don't

525
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:28.480
know, you know, and you
know I talk about things I still have.

526
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:34.320
I still have my Proby notebook,
your Proby notebook. This is my

527
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:39.360
prob notebook. Did you give that
to your son when nothing should changed?

528
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:51.280
No? No, they'll go around
saying picks an ass either guarantee you that

529
00:41:52.320 --> 00:42:02.239
tn O god yea. So just
you I can say anything. I'll get

530
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.679
to say so just when you can't
do any words. Then then then they

531
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:08.880
assign you to the company and then
you have to you gotta start all over

532
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.639
again. Before we get that.
I gotta say this. She said,

533
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.519
you said anything to me, right, You said that you can say whatever

534
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.920
you want. You should have went
up to the to the guy, the

535
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.639
squad leader. I said, you're
going to lead the chair at the end,

536
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:25.679
you should have said cocking ball,
cocking ball, okay. Squad leader

537
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:35.920
was a woman. Oh, I
don't want it to because Okay, that's

538
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:42.280
how I started to move on already, come on the show. I just

539
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.119
said, we don't want to be
a proto school. An hour and a

540
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.639
half in the thing. Half.
But I let's get to your first assignment.

541
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:52.760
How did you get? Don't listening
here? I got the LEPs tomorrow

542
00:42:52.280 --> 00:43:02.119
at three o'clock, dinner Bird specials. I gotta get that. You go

543
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:09.119
to business place Hillside Avenue, the
Hillside It was originally a Hillside Helton,

544
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.519
but they were like seriously, so
they changed it to the Hillside Hurricane.

545
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:22.800
Hmm uh okay. So you go
there, you know, you bring the

546
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.239
cake, You put the cake on
the kitchen table, you know. Then

547
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.679
the guys, you know, shuffle
me up to meet the captain, the

548
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.840
captain. Should I say his name? Yeah, he's the captain, Yeah,

549
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:40.599
captain think uh. He was the
typical officer and the gentleman guy.

550
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.119
He was the father of four daughters, a military man, straight as an

551
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:51.480
arrow. The guys bring me up
to the office to meet him. Guys,

552
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:59.280
hees a cap is probi and the
guy's like, come on, guys,

553
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:09.119
and he had he was like he
really toemale. I don't know what

554
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:13.119
they did to the guys in the
fire house, I really don't know,

555
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:24.719
like who shoot hello, Oh thank
goodness. I really don't know what they

556
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:28.079
did in the field. How could
I know that. I would have no

557
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.760
idea, you know. Yeah,
I went there, and uh, I

558
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.320
know. Before I got there,
he was all about like getting rid of

559
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:38.400
the girly magazines and the all the
stuff in the fight or whatever. So

560
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:43.719
yeah, like they're not gonna hate
me enough, you know. But when

561
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.280
I got to the fireous, like, I didn't know that they were gonna

562
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.960
hit me. I don't know.
I didn't know that, you know.

563
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.519
And you know, Rock and I
were always very close, and I didn't

564
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:57.400
want to tell those stories. I
only want to tell my story because it's

565
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.360
hard thing to tell her story whatever. But we would be like, I

566
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:05.760
don't know why they hate us so
much, you know Tony Golfi, Yeah,

567
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:07.440
I did work with Tony Golfi.
Yeah, his son is on the

568
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:17.760
grandfriend is on the Yankees. Wow, it's the Yankees. Any yeah,

569
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:23.280
yeah yeah, So you know,
look, the truth of the matter is,

570
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:28.440
there was no preparation for us.
There was nothing. They just threw

571
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:32.039
us in there after the men too. Now you've got to realize culturally,

572
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:37.840
back in those days, women didn't
really work. The girls I went to

573
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.880
high school with they got engaged,
and seniors in high school they went to

574
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:45.159
work. The secretaries for a year, got married, had babies, stayed

575
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:51.679
home and that's a perfect I would
come in on that. That was me.

576
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:57.239
I'm good to go for that,
you know. So there was only

577
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.280
one guy in the truck that had
a wife that worked, but other than

578
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:06.119
that, none of them have worked. Had words that worked also too.

579
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:09.880
A lot of them were military men, a lot of them marked in total

580
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:15.199
men jobs. You know, construction. What happened? What women do they

581
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.880
know? Do they know? What
women do they know? The wise,

582
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.719
the girlfriend, their sisters, to
work with a woman. You know,

583
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:29.039
today it's commonplace for men I want
to work, but back then it was

584
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:36.360
not like that law. It just
wasn't. Yeah. So you walk into

585
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:43.519
the firehouse, right, yeah,
what's your first your first toilfuse? Okay,

586
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.320
I'm in the captain's group. Captain
think, yeah, I'm going to

587
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:55.199
be in his group and I'm with
the first day of the firehouse, the

588
00:46:55.360 --> 00:47:01.159
chauff he wasn't the chauffeur in my
group's, but Louis Ricos is making cream

589
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:06.960
pups and he's all upset, so't
tell anybody. I was in the fires

590
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:15.320
making cream pubs and I'm like,
you know, it was just it was

591
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:20.039
odd, like the look. First
of all, I went to an all

592
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:23.199
girls high school. I was not
familiar with, like, uh, locker

593
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:30.119
room culture where you you know,
I wore my clothes to work every day.

594
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:36.440
My locker room was the trunk of
my Toyota Corolla. Uh. Yeah,

595
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.239
I had a locker, but it
was in the middle of the men's

596
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:42.840
locker room. Uh. They painted
a pink which I thought was very cute.

597
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.800
But I'm not going to go up
there where I think, oh my

598
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.679
goodness, they could be running ram
naked or something. You know, I

599
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:57.119
just never went upstairs. I did
not go upstairs, Captain Sky Okay,

600
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.440
Yeah, so that's funny. And
you know, you guys know how it

601
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:01.960
is. You know, you're sign
your bunk based on your group numba.

602
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:06.480
It's not like U you're making a
living room arrangement or whatever the heck you're

603
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:09.599
doing. So because of the group
I was in my uh and it was

604
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:14.440
a double house with Chief reqoys and
it was a five min engine, So

605
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.639
there's a lot of people in the
bunk room. So my bunk because I

606
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:21.719
was in group twenty five. Just
by chance, they didn't put it there

607
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:23.719
because I was there. It was
just my bunk. It was in the

608
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:30.639
middle of the bunk room. The
wisdom of the nas and five woman to

609
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.679
get them screens. It was like
a trifle screens. I can ask you,

610
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:39.159
like, we're not gonna put this
tryfold screen. Sure, I put

611
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:43.559
up the this like I need about
six of each, and I'm gonna have

612
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.079
privacy. But you know, I
mean I never, I never, you

613
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:50.760
know, I went to work in
my clothes, I came home my clothes.

614
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.760
I slapped in my clothes, you
know. Oh, and the captain

615
00:48:53.840 --> 00:49:00.880
did proclamate no more sleeping in the
nude. It didn't make that proclamation.

616
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.480
But I was always the first one
out of that bunk room because I didn't

617
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.719
want to see nothing. Even went
on a truck runs. No I'm not

618
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.960
even cooked. But I'm just saying, like, you know, I was

619
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:15.280
out there. The chief be like, you know, yeah, I just

620
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.800
ug Yeah, I was the first
one out of that bunk room. How

621
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.840
long did it take you to catch
your first job? Uh? Well,

622
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.840
you know that whole white cloud syndrome, you know, because of course,

623
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.840
I guess they were paying more attention
to jobs because they wanted to, you

624
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.920
know, gust the girl out.
Uh. It was first job was small,

625
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:37.280
It was like two weeks in.
Maybe it was a It was interesting

626
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:43.039
about it. It was just the
dry fire and h type. And what

627
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:46.039
was interesting about it was that it
was the first time I realized, wait

628
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:50.920
a minute, we're all going in. But they were going that way.

629
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.480
I'm going this right, you know. So that was an interesting thing.

630
00:49:53.519 --> 00:50:00.760
And then after that, oh we
had it was like a basein fire and

631
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:06.400
like a warehouse. I want to
say Jamaica Avenue down south. The good

632
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.559
job's always down south. I'm gonna
say Jamaica Avenue, but I'm non sent

633
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:16.320
sure. But it was. It
was a big fire way down and in

634
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:21.320
two ninety eight the probe we had
a nozzle because the captain wanted to keep

635
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.440
an eye on you. So we
go downstairs and you know, okay,

636
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:31.519
blah blah blah. But what happened
was that there were barrels of soaps,

637
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:37.800
some kind of soaps, so wherever
the heck it was, and between the

638
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:43.800
heat and the water whatever, So
my legs got burned not not burn,

639
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:45.880
burn like a burning in the barn, but burn like caught the burn right.

640
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:49.239
So I come home and I'm like, now what am I going to

641
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.440
do? Because I couldn't wear pants
because my legs, you know, So

642
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.039
that was I just sucked it up. I put some cream on or whatever

643
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.400
I did, I don't even remember. Oh, and then we had the

644
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:06.199
fire. Dear friend Lorraine Seeker.
What a wonderful woman she was. She

645
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:13.239
worked in three or three and then
was later assigned to two seventy five,

646
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:20.400
so it was an appontment fire and
people. We had two ten forty fives

647
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:23.599
and I think they were first do
though I think they were first doing.

648
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:27.599
So now we have ten forty fives. Well, they want to make sure

649
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:30.360
the girls know how to back up
a body, so you know, we

650
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:35.719
had to do that. And then
when they came back to the firehouse,

651
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.360
I don't remember if it was that
tour or the next tour, whatever tour

652
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:45.440
it was, they realized there was
a foot missing. So Lorraine had to

653
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:52.800
go back and look for the foot. Find it's you know what, it's

654
00:51:52.960 --> 00:52:00.639
funny talent and retrospective, but it
wasn't funny then. And Lorraine had a

655
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:07.440
hard gold and she's a good person. And yeah, so they were watching.

656
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:09.679
I'm sure they were right. They
were always watching you, you know,

657
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:13.880
almost looking for you to fail,
like always had. You were like

658
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:19.880
a constantly under a microscope, constantly. I mean I never told anybody what

659
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.119
I did for a little never,
because I didn't want to talk about it.

660
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.760
There was work, He went to
work, then you came home.

661
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:30.480
Nobody knew what I did. Did
you have any full of guys or any

662
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.840
guys that were exceptionally nice to you? Who who kind of took you in?

663
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.000
It was really, to be honest. There was the senior man,

664
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:44.159
so like the Tommy mttoos. He
was the showf I worked it all the

665
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:50.199
time. He's nickname was Stark Club
and he was a senior man in the

666
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.880
engine, you know, and he
kind of went in the kitchen instead.

667
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:57.480
So cute how they cold you the
girl? Look, we got the girl,

668
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:00.760
so you know, we might as
well show where everything was, you

669
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:06.960
know, And he did, you
know, he made sure that I knew

670
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:10.840
where every freaking fitting, reducing increase, whatever the it was. You may

671
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.159
charge to that. And I will
also say that the truck guys, the

672
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:20.599
truck guys were very very very good
to me. They were very good,

673
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.440
a lot of them, you know, they're older. They were there passing.

674
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:28.320
They're speaking, was Jerry, and
how to go arrest the soul?

675
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:36.960
I'll be cast, go rest the
soul. Norman Marston got rest the soul.

676
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.000
They were good to me in terms
of a peacher attic, what a

677
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:44.960
gentleman, what a gentleman. They
were good to me in terms of you

678
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:49.280
couldn't talk to me in front of
anybody like that was a nobod. Don't

679
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:53.840
talk to me in front of anybody. So every year we had this PLAQ

680
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:59.079
well we shouldn't say every yet they
had a plaque party and I came in

681
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:01.960
on the second year, the black
part. I still go to the Black

682
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:09.159
And they gave out awards, all
kinds of awards. We had the Access

683
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:15.039
Award for the worst meal. We
had the Crash Madness and watch crashed three

684
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:21.280
oh in that famous square rood or
what I'm sure you guys that guy.

685
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:27.920
And then when that came they added
a new ward, the c. Sniffer

686
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:35.079
Award. Yeah no, this is
real stuff. And this is all the

687
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:39.800
award that hung up in the TV
room. Yeah, this is what went

688
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:46.480
on. This is what we want. What the criteria for the Snipping Award

689
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:52.119
was. You couldn't get speaking to
me. You couldn't get speaking No,

690
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:57.000
I'm not in kidding. No,
okay, so this isn't funny. So

691
00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:02.199
now you have to watch right.
I know you want an act the sell

692
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:10.760
of honey. I'll bring these stories. I don't know, but anyway,

693
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:15.239
so if you if you were caught
talking to me like that would be the

694
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:21.719
criteria and you'll get that award.
So what we're having is, I mean,

695
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:23.840
this took a long time for anybody
told me nobody would make a mutual

696
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:32.239
I mean mtels for years, for
years straight, no straight tours. Yeah

697
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:36.960
yeah, yeah, there was no
mutuals. Nobody would make mutual on me.

698
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:42.360
I never want time. Yeah,
it took a long time. Oh

699
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:47.760
yeah, but don't forget when I
was a proby the best thing that happened

700
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:54.679
to me as I became pregnant with
my daughter. Oh, Yazi, February.

701
00:55:54.840 --> 00:56:00.000
This is funny. So it's February
nineteen eighty three, it would be

702
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:05.800
right, yeah, Gobard, nineteen
eighty three. We have this huge snowstorm,

703
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:09.559
huge snowstorm, and I'm in val
It's only six miles to the finance.

704
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:15.000
Right. So I'm in Dallas Stream
and my husband, you know who

705
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:16.920
goes up. He had a little
time and said, you know, we

706
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:20.039
can go to work. How are
you going to get it there. I'm

707
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.960
going to drive you. Okay,
okay, we get in the car.

708
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:28.119
We make it to the valley stream
order. It was just like five bars.

709
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:31.000
And you know, we never left
our gear in work because we were

710
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:37.239
always afraid that, you know,
it would be crampromised. So yeah,

711
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:43.000
as I said, my shrunk of
my Toyota Corolla was my marker, and

712
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.920
so I had only stuff with me. And I'm like, well, I

713
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:50.159
I oh, and I get caught
the fireance. But of course nobody could

714
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:54.239
work for me, so I had
to go in and I told the lieutenant

715
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:58.719
at the time, Lieutenant Murphy.
He was a very very nice man,

716
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.320
but he had no choice in the
matter. He said, we'll get here

717
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:05.880
when you can, you know.
And uh. So I got out to

718
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:10.639
a Corolla and I started walking and
I'm walking and let down my grop walking

719
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:17.159
walking and some police cough was up
and they see me, like, I

720
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:22.559
don't remember if I was wearing my
bunk of colt. You're always wearing the

721
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.519
boots. I don't maybe I was
wearing the bunker you know, we didn't

722
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.400
have the whole bunker gear thing,
and then we had like it was like

723
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:34.159
a raincoat and pull up boots whatever. And I'm going down Madgrol and he

724
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:39.039
goes, where are you going?
I oh, I'm on the job.

725
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:47.000
I'm like, I'm trying nick into
its upwey eight. It was about three

726
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:51.079
miles from the firehouse. That was
grateful. They let me get in the

727
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:54.880
backseat and they drove me to the
front frint of the firehouse. And as

728
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:59.079
soon as I got there, probably
get down here and shovel the snow.

729
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:05.079
Okay, I wanted to say.
I talked to like a bunch of guys

730
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:07.599
from two ninety eight, and uh, you know, obviously when I first

731
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:09.199
thought about having you on the show, I was like, you know,

732
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:13.039
what was she like? Was she
good at fires and everything? And everybody

733
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:15.760
said the same thing. How long
did it take before you felt like the

734
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:21.360
guys trusted you at a job like
legitly, at a job like did you

735
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.239
feel you could do the job?
At what point did you feel like I

736
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:27.599
got this? You know, I
could do this? You know what needs

737
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.440
to be done? Here when when
I'm called upon it, I think that

738
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:37.360
I always had, always not just
me fire from it. Always had an

739
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:43.199
enormous sense of mental fortitude, you
know, I've always had that. And

740
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:47.639
even Captain Fink, who would never
give me any kind of accolade or anything

741
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:50.679
like that because he didn't know what
they was to do. Man, and

742
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:57.400
it wasn't as fool but hey sentiment
he goes, you're gonna be okay,

743
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.239
he goes, you're not the strongest, you're not the best. He was

744
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:05.760
a bigger smart because then you'll never
get yourself or how there's in a situation

745
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:09.920
that you can't get it. So
even though even though what happened was when

746
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:15.119
I had my daughter, she was
my saving grace. She really was,

747
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:19.880
because once you have a child and
now you're going to come back to the

748
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:25.320
Fians, I realized the fiance is
not, you know, it's not anything

749
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:31.480
as important as my daughter was.
And she really truly was a salvation in

750
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:37.119
terms of dealing with the Fians.
When I came back into my daughter,

751
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:42.719
there was a little more respect in
terms of all these step aren't really talking

752
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.199
to me to dad, but I
don't really. At one point where we

753
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.039
had to go to the rock.
I could get what of ally, we're

754
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:54.239
going to measure our body fat?
And I think that and I just had

755
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:57.519
a baby, you know, yeah, if you had a baby, I

756
00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:00.320
did have to go on my duty. After get a few weeks, I

757
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.400
did have to go back for retraining. Whatever the he coulu was. So

758
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:07.239
I'm thinking by the time my daughter
was born in October of nineteen eighty three,

759
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:09.679
So by the time I got back
to the fire house, I'm saying,

760
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:14.840
maybe it's January or so, and
we go They mentioned me neck,

761
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.480
I don't know whatever he will measure
and my body, according to them,

762
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:22.320
was like fifteen percent. Guys,
we're like what you know, because they

763
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:29.599
they had no experience other than the
women in their lives about like, wow,

764
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:31.440
a woman could have a baby and
then actually go do something else,

765
01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:36.599
you know. And even with me
having a baby and then coming back,

766
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.559
they didn't know what to do with
me. They had no clue what to

767
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:44.559
do with me. When I came
back and they had my daughter in the

768
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:46.440
oh, that was another whole start. Come back, you have to have

769
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:51.840
my daughter. What are you going
to do now? Come back? They

770
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:54.280
ran out of their own They didn't
know what to do with me. They

771
01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:58.360
had no idea what to do me. Now, I don't know if I

772
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:01.159
was the first woman to have a
baby and come back. I don't know

773
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:07.039
that for sure, but it was
pretty early on. But they had no

774
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:13.599
clue what to do with me,
no clue whatsoever. And I think that

775
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:15.800
after I came back, I think
I got a little respect and a little

776
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:20.840
more respect from the guys. You
know. Then we had some more couple

777
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:25.280
more jobs, and you know,
and then you know, I left my

778
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:34.519
second my first son, and then
I left I had my second son.

779
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.400
I never imagined, no serious or
not back in the day, those guys

780
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:42.840
that I don't know how they got
away with never taking a medical right,

781
01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:45.880
that was funny too, allegedly,
Yeah, that was funny too, right.

782
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:52.039
Oh yeah, but how did your
husband feel about your working in the

783
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.440
firehouse with all the guys. It
was difficult for him, you know,

784
01:01:55.519 --> 01:02:00.760
it was difficult, especially when I
come home with bruises and like in an

785
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.920
academy, when I came home with
like literally four dots of blood and black

786
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:08.239
and blue chain, it was difficult
for him. I mean, imagine,

787
01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:12.840
if it's not even just your wife, your the water, your brother,

788
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:15.320
it doesn't have to be because I
was a woman and his wife somebody you

789
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:22.440
left. You know, it was
difficult, very difficult, very very difficult.

790
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:25.800
When when did you start? Uh
you said you started? When did

791
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:29.360
you start studying? Like? Did
you do that? The fire marshal thing?

792
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:30.719
You said that a little bit later
on? How long after that?

793
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:35.760
Well, the firemancial thing? Okay, So when I became pregnant my daughter

794
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:37.639
again, they didn't know what to
do with me. Did for me online

795
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:44.039
duty. I was fortunate enough that
the chief fire martial that's time was my

796
01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:46.599
aunt's brother in law, and he
said, oh, send her over here.

797
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:50.360
You know she's small, we'll teach
of the computer. She could do

798
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:54.159
the computer thing. So I was
very fortunate in that regard that I went

799
01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:59.880
to a firemancial's office and I ran
a computer room for them and made it

800
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:01.719
a lot of goo friends with the
guys. As a matter of fact,

801
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:07.599
they thow me a baby shower.
How twenty is that right? And that's

802
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:20.719
when that came. Yeah, and
that I enjoy that. It sounded tough.

803
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:28.039
St banging, it's like driving me
crazy. What's now change? Yeah,

804
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.119
I think we're gonna have to try
and uh, maybe I'll send in

805
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:36.800
the sending the IT guys again in
the IP guys, let me get the

806
01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:38.360
get the problem. We'll put her
in the back room while we solve that

807
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:43.679
problem. And if anything, we
can just briefly for those of you that

808
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:45.719
may not have seen it earlier,
will show it to you again. I'm

809
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:51.239
gonna display it momentarily if you're just
tuning in. And that is regarding the

810
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:55.079
twenty twenty four Fire Expo, which
will be taking place once again on May

811
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:59.920
seventeenth and eighteenth of twenty twenty four. It's gonna be hosted by the Lancaster

812
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.760
County Fireman's Association ten am to five
pm both days Eastern Standard Time. Tickets

813
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only ten dollars. Children night and
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814
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.960
Pennsylvania. So if you are not
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815
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:20.480
and you will see are esteemed.
Yeah, she's telling great stories. Unfortunately,

816
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:24.639
it's just the audio is mark.
Yesterday, we got the new shirt

817
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:28.719
coming now for the show, right, Yeah, a brand new shirt,

818
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:32.880
not the two other shirts that we
had. Operating a pile driver. I

819
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:38.400
was going on, let's do the
health and safety tip for them. Yeah,

820
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:40.239
I was gonna ask you if you
wanted to do that. So let's

821
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:45.800
do that and we will roll that
whole right. I'm feeling better, yeah,

822
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:50.119
pushing through it. We'll roll it
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823
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824
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825
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826
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827
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828
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:19.639
Are you ready healthy? I tell
this all the time. Healthy lifestyle

829
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:26.599
choices are important for firefighters health and
fitness. Maintain a healthy diet rich fruits,

830
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:29.559
vegetables, and whole grains. Do
me a favor. I used to

831
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:31.559
tell people, it's all the timon
they ask me to lose weight. The

832
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:35.199
first step in the losing weight is
to give something up that you take in

833
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:40.760
excess. Like I ask people all
the time, tell me about their diet,

834
01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:45.480
and sometimes it could be soda,
regular soda. They're addicted to drinking

835
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:46.880
regual soda. And I'll tell them
just to cut the soda out. That's

836
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:49.400
all you gotta do. Cut the
soda out for two months and see what

837
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:51.880
happens. And nine pounds out of
ten they lose four or five, six,

838
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:56.719
seven pounds. So if there's something
that you eat, I'm not telling

839
01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:00.159
you to leave a spartan lifestyle,
but company cut something out that you know

840
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:04.360
is terrible and your dog, you
eat an excess and the weight will fall

841
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:08.119
off you, and send them of
the pounds my way. Please. If

842
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:13.880
you can't, I'll take up pounds. No, I mean all in muscle,

843
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:15.239
of course, ethan. Before we
get back to Captain moy hand.

844
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:17.800
That's why I drink beer, so
it does bad for you, he says.

845
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:21.360
Nice, clever, clever. All
right, let's get back to Captain

846
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:29.440
Money and welcome back. Thank you? Ready to go? All right,

847
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:38.559
all right, we are, we
are right? Oh no, what the

848
01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:41.880
fire mortal? We will past?
Wait. Can I just tell you almost

849
01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:53.719
sorry about of course? Okay,
son, right hold on a minute.

850
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:57.920
MIC is not working or whatever it
is. You gotta connect. You gotta

851
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:03.639
connect your bluetooth. If it's not
connected, already connected, that problem.

852
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:06.159
It should be connected. But we'll
get getting a lot of crackling. No,

853
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:11.320
get that was from like the beginning
of the show. It was tough

854
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:15.800
to get it to connect to that
thing. The ranges rookie one one,

855
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:23.119
all right, So yep, stopping
is holding up with this range of hockey.

856
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:27.039
It's a lot of pressure, you
know, pressure. Yeah, it's

857
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.599
uh. The playoffs are tough many
this year. I have a good feeling

858
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:36.440
up on the Pacers. You just
have a better chance to win the cup

859
01:07:36.519 --> 01:07:43.159
than the next Well, the next
are two bangs up. Unfortunately, Uh,

860
01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:46.079
there missing a lot of guys such
period hockey, talking about hockey,

861
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:51.960
stop it. The Knicks are demonstrating
a crap ton of heart despite their injuries.

862
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:56.519
But we'll check back. We'll get
a couple of games, and then

863
01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:00.559
right while we're in Harrisburg, we
should Yeah, usually happens again if they

864
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:04.840
sweep. Maybe if they went tonight. I don't want to get a split.

865
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:06.599
I don't like to say it.
No, no, just get a

866
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:09.960
split. Try to win one of
the two. We got to crawl before

867
01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:14.119
we can walk. And speaking of
walking, let's walk back to Captain boy.

868
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:29.680
All right, let's do it.
Okay, then work maybe maybe we're

869
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:33.600
just gonna go off your iPhone maybe
you're on you're on your laptop. Yes,

870
01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:42.159
let's yeah, it's not. We'll
switch to the iPhone. I can

871
01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:44.880
email you another link that where you
can just access it, and I'll do

872
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:49.600
that momentarily one mm hmm and being
the look after that? What is going

873
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:53.600
on over there? I apologize,
ladies. I don't know what the TikTok

874
01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:58.439
is. I feel like they're in
like a spooky movies someone the same thing.

875
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:00.319
Can you imagine if you listen to
that like in a cell somewhere,

876
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:06.039
just like NonStop for like days.
I feel like the evil character is going

877
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:11.039
to walk down the hallway and get
me any moment now, Captain, I

878
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:13.159
just if you can hear me.
I just emailed the link to you,

879
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:17.039
so access it from your phone.
Let's hope that we sometimes most of the

880
01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:21.560
yeah, sometimes that's the case.
Unfortunately, technology giveth and technology taketh away,

881
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:27.039
and tonight is taking away. But
push through. We don't really ever

882
01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:32.159
have that issue. No, it
happens. It happens. So what's going

883
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:41.000
on? What's going on with you
guys? Go? I regret I asked,

884
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:45.520
did you did you fill out your
FDN Y application? No? I

885
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:47.000
haven't yet. I think you got
it. I was talking to Amanda Farran,

886
01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:48.560
not you. I think you got
to go in person, which I

887
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:53.199
wouldn't mind doing. But new Haven
just opened up where I live. New

888
01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:56.560
Haven just opened up to residents and
non residents. You don't even you don't

889
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:58.800
even need a MT. You just
got to register sixty bucks to apply.

890
01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:01.359
So the deadline is a twenty six
I'm thinking, let me just apply everywhere

891
01:10:01.760 --> 01:10:08.039
and see what happens. Now you're
thinking, that's what. Everything against the

892
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:12.880
wall and back on her iPhone.
Let's see. I don't know is she

893
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:15.760
on her iPhone or is she's still
I believe she's still on the No,

894
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:19.600
she's still on the uh laptop.
So captain, if you can hear us,

895
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:24.560
please sign off on your laptop and
that same link I just emailed you

896
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.319
a link. Click that link from
your phone and sign it with your phone.

897
01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:30.640
Mike. When we will load this
up, we can cut all this

898
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:34.039
out so it's kind of seamless.
Uh yeah, we can. We can

899
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:44.439
miss our banter a blathering. Yeah, it's who's we'll have to cut out

900
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:48.279
the first half hour. Unfortunately,
No, we're talking about like right now,

901
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:55.680
when she's not on we could cut
that's fine she is, Yes,

902
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.359
perfect, turn your phone. Yeah, that's perfect. Just turn the phone

903
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:01.960
sideways that way. We don't see
those black boxes like this way. Have

904
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:05.640
the phone pointed this way? Yeah, there you go. Is that good?

905
01:11:06.199 --> 01:11:11.800
Yeah? Man, we'll hear us. I can hear you. Oh

906
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:25.000
you sound I mention this what what
happened? The comments? You know who

907
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:32.399
wouldn't have trouble connecting Ginger? Oh
ginger, whole lot of minutes. Oh

908
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:39.479
I'm getting off this island. All
right, back to our conversation. Okay,

909
01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:42.800
So it's New Year's Day in nineteen
eighty four. Every day I worked,

910
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:45.399
the captain had a drill every single
day. Well, we all know

911
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:48.439
we drew at two o'clock, right, guys. Yeah, okay, anyway,

912
01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:54.439
New Year's Day in nineteen eighty four. Well, now we're gonna teach

913
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:59.439
the girl how to use the bucket. Okay, great, The guys are

914
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:03.479
thrilled about this operation, right,
So we get the bucket set up outside

915
01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:06.840
of the firehouse. Yeah, y
yeah, you know it's a joystick,

916
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:10.960
and the caps are like astonished.
I don't know if he thought what I

917
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:15.119
was like, I don't know,
mentally incapacity, but it's a boomstick,

918
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.520
like, how want is this to
do this? To position the towel at

919
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:21.560
Okay, yeah, I mean the
bucket okay, great. So now we've

920
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:25.760
finished that, and of course the
guys are like, oh, you know,

921
01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:30.920
they are really perturbed by this whole
evolution, and they decided to lock

922
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.479
me in the kitchen and I'm going
to make the breakfast. I'm like,

923
01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:38.680
okay, so I'm making the breakfast
now, I don't know. I'm frying

924
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:42.960
three slices of bacon at a time, you know, three slices okay,

925
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:46.600
three slices, how many eggs?
You know whatever? And it's taken,

926
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:51.479
I guess a long time. And
this guy, great guy peecheran It from

927
01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:55.279
the truck, comes in. He
goes, what are you doing? They're

928
01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:58.800
getting so upset out what are you
doing? I go, I'm making the

929
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:02.359
bacon like I'm baking. It's just
like you make the bakon in the train,

930
01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:06.720
you know. And then he helped
me make the whole breakfast, and

931
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:10.640
then he went out and he called
Chow. Now to this day, if

932
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:13.600
I see him, I got to
ask like, did he did they know

933
01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:15.640
that he was helping me? Or
did he just do it? You know?

934
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:19.279
What I He was just such a
nice guy. I know you were.

935
01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:23.359
He was helping you. You know
what he would have got. Oh,

936
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:30.359
nobody wanted that got that award.
Nobody wanted that award. Yeah,

937
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:38.840
I pushed forward to Athrian five marshals, you get promoted to lieutenant. Now.

938
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:42.159
I asked you this in the pre
show September of ninety sixth if you

939
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.399
were the first female to get promoted
to officer. But you said no.

940
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:50.840
No, I was the third.
Rocket was first lieutenant, and then Brenda

941
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:56.600
was second, and I was starting. Did you guys all study together?

942
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:01.199
No? I had my own private
study groups. Uh, Mike Smithwick,

943
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:05.479
Freddie Hughes, I had. Yeah, I had my own study groups.

944
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:13.239
Actually yesterday this last day smith Wick. Oh. Yeah. As a matter

945
01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:15.920
of fact, for funny like Rocky
and I, we did have a couple

946
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:19.520
of women's study groups. Rock and
I used to go to fire Tech together

947
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:26.439
and in the early days, nobody
would sit at the table with us.

948
01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:32.920
What do you mean, yeah,
I don't know, everything's perfect. Yeah.

949
01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:35.199
Yeah, So in the early days, Rock and I would go to

950
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:39.720
fire Tech and guys would stand against
the wall instead of sitting with us.

951
01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:47.760
Would you like to think yeah,
nobody. I mean, when you think

952
01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:51.600
about that career, how how long
it has to be right, It's such

953
01:14:51.640 --> 01:15:00.960
a long career when constantly I mean, it's just I get it. I

954
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:03.239
understand some of it. But after
a while you would think like it would

955
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:05.960
you know, you still have to
depend on people. But maybe, I

956
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:10.119
don't know, It's just it's just
a long career man. Doing that.

957
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:15.119
Yeah, did you ever regret it? Doing it? Never? Never.

958
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:20.319
It gave me time with my family. It gave me you know, my

959
01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:25.720
husband became very, very sick and
he had to have a double lung transplant

960
01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:30.479
and I had to The counseling unit
was terrific to me. I had as

961
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:34.039
much time off as I needed.
And I really don't know any other job

962
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:39.479
that would do that for you.
You know, for me, the number

963
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:44.039
one thing is family. And so
the fact that I was able to be

964
01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:48.560
with my family as much as I
was and still have a career, I

965
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:54.359
mean, to me, that was
golden. So now you spent the first

966
01:15:54.399 --> 01:16:00.560
part of your career fighting to be
recognized as a firefighter. Now you get

967
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:02.920
promoted to lieutenant. Now you have
to lead these guys. You're facing a

968
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.319
whole another new challenge of guys like
thatw what is she to show me?

969
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.960
I got one of those. So
it's almost like starting over right in the

970
01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:15.880
new rank. Yeah, it was. It was. I was covering in

971
01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:23.479
the four two Battalion Engine three thirty
letter one seventy two to forty three one

972
01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:32.680
forty eight, uh at the Castle
to eighty four and uh one. I

973
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:36.760
will say the guys were pretty good. I will uh, yeah, the

974
01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:44.800
guys were pretty good. As a
lieutenant, it wasn't it wasn't as uh,

975
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:47.880
you know, I didn't find it
that the difficult part of being a

976
01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:55.119
lieutenant was that they weren't expecting you
to come in right, a woman coming

977
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:57.920
in right, and you know,
like a lot of the older fire houses

978
01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.039
in particular set up that you have
to walk through the bunk room to get

979
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:04.840
to the office right now. They're
not expecting a woman to be walking through

980
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:08.560
the locker room, you know what
I mean. Like, it was like

981
01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:14.720
it was weird. They're not expecting
you and you show up, So that

982
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:18.680
was kind of a weird thing.
Uh. It was also weirder to be

983
01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:24.920
in. Uh some of the officers
bunk rooms was set up that it was

984
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:28.600
just one room and you and the
officer. Yeah, that was weird,

985
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:31.880
like sleeping in just one on one
yeah, you know, that was a

986
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:36.840
little Yeah, that was not one
of my favorite things. But when you

987
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:41.560
when I became an officer and then
you you had your own bunk room and

988
01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:45.119
you had your own TV and I
could watch Oprah, you know, I

989
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:53.159
room, oh, my own bassroom. That was like gold gold. I

990
01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:57.600
will say that gold. It's more
gold for her, but it was gold

991
01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:00.079
for me too, I tell you, Oh, I loved it. I

992
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:02.640
just love that part of that aspect
of it. And like if you wanted

993
01:18:02.680 --> 01:18:08.479
to be with the kit in the
kitchen, listen to whatever you could,

994
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:10.800
and if you didn't, you go
up the stairs and do whatever the heck

995
01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:15.119
you wanted to do. You know, how was it early on, like

996
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:17.199
you know, just going to jobs
and making decisions and you know, food

997
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:20.560
on the store whatever it was,
even jobs like finding fire and you know,

998
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:26.680
well, I'll tell you what the
best experience is regarding that. I

999
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:28.840
mean, yeah, I went to
jobs and stuff like that is the covering

1000
01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:32.239
offices, don't get me wrong,
But oftentimes I did find myself like you're

1001
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:36.840
with the truck. So you know, most of the times, like and

1002
01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:40.800
a lot of the times, I
will say that it was the truck captain,

1003
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:43.239
like I'm trying to think about that. I never really thought about that.

1004
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:45.119
Yeah, we had jobs and stuff
like that. But when I was

1005
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.119
in three twenty one, you know, it's not the busiest house in the

1006
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:53.960
world. But what people don't realize
about that house is like you're alone.

1007
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:58.720
A lot of the times you go
to jobs that like the house. Yeah

1008
01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:01.560
right, you're single house, and
so, like she said, bay houses

1009
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:06.119
and noultern houses, you go in
it. I am by myself, and

1010
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:11.319
I remember times like just being like
in a basement and looking in the corner

1011
01:19:11.399 --> 01:19:13.800
going oh this is oh we gotta
get a line down here, bah blah

1012
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:16.800
blah blah blah. And you stand
there. You are literally by yourself,

1013
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:21.640
and that was a great learning experience
because you were you were it, you

1014
01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:25.439
were it. You just gotta go
and you got to figure out what you

1015
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:29.760
got to do. So that was
actually, even though it wasn't a real

1016
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.720
super busy house, I learned a
lot in the house I really did about

1017
01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:40.399
like just being you're it. Were
there any more women promoted by that time,

1018
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.640
by the time you became you know, I met with any more women

1019
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:51.039
on the job when you got promoted. I think the timeline was pretty sparse,

1020
01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:54.880
and the fact that we got on
the dog and I think it took

1021
01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:57.680
look, I don't know, I
could look it up. I don't have

1022
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:01.279
a listen to that, but got
him. It took a long time for

1023
01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:04.359
the next woman to get hired and
then the next woman to get hired.

1024
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:08.520
When I was a lieutenant. Oh, and that's why I didn't want to

1025
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:12.880
go to three twenty one because Rocket
was the one five nine, and you

1026
01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:15.840
know, I didn't want to step
on her shoes or whatever. The chief

1027
01:20:15.880 --> 01:20:19.880
of the three three at the time, Chief Whaling, he was just wanted

1028
01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:21.560
me to come there and wanted me
to come there, and I didn't want

1029
01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:29.039
to go there. And then what
happened was I was still covering and I

1030
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:34.079
came down. I came down asthma, right, So they wanted to put

1031
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:39.079
me out back then you could get
three quarters to asthma. I didn't want

1032
01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:45.119
to go out. And doctor Presant
was like, he was the guy that

1033
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:48.000
cured asthma, and so he said
to me, look, if you want

1034
01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:51.399
to stay, and you want to
you want to take like duty and mark

1035
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:56.399
in the medical office I'll work closely
with you. We'll try this Inhaleo that

1036
01:20:56.439 --> 01:21:00.800
in Hala I could get you cured. I'm like, all right. So

1037
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:08.359
I became in charge of the pistlocker
at the Ural Services. Yeah that was

1038
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:15.680
me. Wait something great man had
some good job. That's a good job.

1039
01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:20.760
Uh ship Yeah, got you stayed
on the job and you were in

1040
01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:25.399
through twenty when you studyed for captain
at the time, sure, yeah,

1041
01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:29.920
yeah, I was always studying.
You know, how are the guys did

1042
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:32.439
you Did you feel like guys talk
to you more at this point twenty one?

1043
01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:35.439
Well, just in general when you
became an officer, was it more

1044
01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:40.279
like forehead? I could see it, you know, when the guys wouldn't

1045
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:42.960
talk to you so much. But
you first didn't know what to do with

1046
01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:45.800
you, you know, but once
they got used to you. Uh.

1047
01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:50.439
And the guys in three twenty one, again it was a skeleton crew.

1048
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:55.760
A lot of guys were on medical
le but what have you. And then

1049
01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:59.720
we had that rotation program, so
the guys would come for a year and

1050
01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:05.359
lee eve. But the regular guys
that I worked with there every single day,

1051
01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:10.039
well like it was like our family. It was, you know,

1052
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:14.079
I don't know if you guys have
ever been in single engines, but at

1053
01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:16.359
this point, it's four people like
for lunch would go to the bagel store,

1054
01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:18.399
you know, and get every big
get what they want to get.

1055
01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:23.760
Denna, somebody would bring in Dinna. It wasn't like uh, like two

1056
01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:27.399
ninety eight with it's like fourteen people, you know, and all the personalities

1057
01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:30.680
and all this and all that.
You know, it was a very different.

1058
01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:33.760
Aculutely in a single house, you
get one guy in the watch.

1059
01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:36.600
Maybe you got one or two guys
studying the offices up in the office,

1060
01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:42.760
walking around like yeah, yeah,
yeah, Michael, pull up some of

1061
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:45.279
the pictures. Go ahead and we
get some. We could go back to

1062
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.600
it. We we do want to
go over her Marshal's years. I showed

1063
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:53.000
the one with Commissioner rivera earlier.
Here's a headshot of her time as a

1064
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:56.359
fire Marshall. Yeah, Jack,
and she's got on bro all right,

1065
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:02.800
and a gun for that matter.
I do not no, I did not.

1066
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:08.720
Well you carrying back then? Uh? You bought them used from another

1067
01:23:08.760 --> 01:23:12.840
fire Marshal. I had a two
inch Smith and Wesson, and I had

1068
01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:18.560
a four inch Smith and Wesson revolves
and believe we have here to be.

1069
01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:30.239
I don't even from the earlier picture
Camp Smith. Yeah, that was that

1070
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:34.880
was uh in Peaksgo. We had
to go there for a week to train

1071
01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:43.840
on our weapons. We had to
fire fifteen hundred rounds and we were supposed

1072
01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:46.119
to stay over. And then like
you know, I was on the first

1073
01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:49.279
floor, the guys on the second
floor, and there's no TV. There's

1074
01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:53.359
no nothing, you know. And
the guys said, come upstairs. Okay,

1075
01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:55.960
I come stairs, the roll in
the underwear, clean their weapons.

1076
01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:00.239
I'm like, oh, I don't
know about this. Oh I think I'll

1077
01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:05.000
commute, you know. And all
commuted because there always in their drawers,

1078
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:09.479
they were in their doors. They
yeah. Oh that was one of the

1079
01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:14.680
biggest things about going to Brooklyn Base. Unless you're on the fire department,

1080
01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.239
you could not understand this. The
phone man, I forget his name,

1081
01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:21.000
It began with an H. But
he didn't like to wear pants. He

1082
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:26.880
liked to walk around his underwear at
Brooklyn Base, and he was upset that

1083
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:30.640
now I gotta wear pants because we
have a girl coming here. Like,

1084
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:35.399
you can't make this stuff up.
It's real stuff. Yeah, this is

1085
01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:40.680
a job in Lower Manhattan. Uh. With my point. I think his

1086
01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:44.560
last name was Wilson. He was
a very nice man, very nice gentleman.

1087
01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:46.520
But he was the lead investigator on
the case. As you can see,

1088
01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:50.720
he's carrying the pad. You see
my little head popping in. I

1089
01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:55.640
guess that was in the newspaper or
something. Did you like doing that?

1090
01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:59.319
Well, you got to realize too, I was online duty from day,

1091
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:03.319
you know, early on in the
years. So I got to know a

1092
01:25:03.359 --> 01:25:10.159
lot of the guys doing the computer
room, and they knew that they could

1093
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:14.560
depend on me to look stuff up
for them. So I did the fine

1094
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:17.359
marshals for me. It was just
a step in the right direction. You

1095
01:25:17.399 --> 01:25:20.560
know. It was good. The
people I worked with were really good,

1096
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:26.159
and I didn't really have too much
trust. Every once in a while you'd

1097
01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:30.680
run into a guy here were there. But my main part is Randy Wilson.

1098
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:32.399
I'll forget it. What a pain
in the ass. He's a male

1099
01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:35.640
chauvinist. But guess who we always
wanted to work with. This girl,

1100
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:42.479
you know, and then my other
Charlie Wagner. Great guy, great guy,

1101
01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:45.880
Oh my god. He had so
many really great times. See I

1102
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:48.279
still see them, we meet for
lunch. They think I'm gonna pay one

1103
01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:55.279
day, but that's not happening.
We have Bobby Steiner here too. Oh

1104
01:25:55.439 --> 01:26:00.960
Bobby Steiner. Yeah, yeah,
So that would be uh Tommy Mattheuse would

1105
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:05.079
be driving and it would be uh
Bobby. Oh, Bobby would be on

1106
01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:10.479
the I'd have the nose back up, and then we'd be working with climcheck

1107
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:15.199
and oh we had good times.
Nine eight Good times to nine eight was

1108
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:19.439
uh, that's my heart too.
Nine eight. I mean everybody, you

1109
01:26:19.479 --> 01:26:24.520
know the John Clancy thing in two
ninety eight, I mean that's where my

1110
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:27.359
heart is in two ninety eight.
You know. Look, three twenty one

1111
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:29.520
was great. Don't get me wrong. I had a good time there.

1112
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:32.159
The guys were great. But I
grew up in two ninety eight, like

1113
01:26:32.199 --> 01:26:35.199
we all grew up together. I
still see them. I still go to

1114
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:39.159
the plau parties. I'm still in
the text feed. I'm still you know,

1115
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:44.199
yeah cool. Do they have any
females there now? They actually had

1116
01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:48.600
two females after me, Lizzie something. If I could get the whale ship

1117
01:26:48.680 --> 01:26:58.479
back in here. Later he knows
he's not only whale ship the same person.

1118
01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:00.800
Well, for you guys out there
in the jet, she calls her

1119
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:05.039
some whale ship. Is he still
a proby? No, he's been in

1120
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:11.319
he's he just called whale ship people. No more than that. He's got

1121
01:27:11.319 --> 01:27:15.239
seven years on the job now,
I think in twenty eighteen. Yeah,

1122
01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:19.359
he went from mt to two forty
seven and now he's in one o three.

1123
01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:24.119
He's scaredy did you say one three? I did say one round?

1124
01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:29.680
Well, really scared, you know? Yeah? Look at that we see

1125
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:32.560
Do you see my helmet? That's
the original leather helmet, It says Proby

1126
01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:39.159
thawing man. That's right, that's
what they have man. And we have

1127
01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:44.279
the same badge number. We took
your badge number. He took my badge

1128
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:47.600
number. He couldn't get my lieutenant's
badge number on my captain's badge number because

1129
01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:51.199
that was his younger year. A
young whit, yeah, a little young

1130
01:27:51.239 --> 01:27:57.319
whale. Shit. They are my
pull up boots, my helmet. He

1131
01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:00.159
was the one who originally sent me, uh a message. You'd be interested

1132
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:03.560
you know him before? No?
No, I mean I've probably seen him

1133
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:08.600
over there. Yeah. Sure,
but a guy like you thirty years,

1134
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:14.960
he's just him. How old is
your one three? I want to say

1135
01:28:15.079 --> 01:28:18.119
two years, maybe three years?
He made the move. Good for him.

1136
01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:20.199
Well, they're not really I was
going to say before. They're not

1137
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:25.760
really like hurricanes anymore. It's kind
of like a little uh like tropic storm

1138
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:28.159
now over there. Yeah, it's
a little thunderstorm over I think they call

1139
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:34.800
them a tropical depressions now than are
the hurricanes anymore. They're still they're running

1140
01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:39.800
their ass off over there. Now
engine is running. But that's that's such

1141
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:44.600
a an occupied area right there,
and there's every type of building there.

1142
01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:46.680
They have all the tax payers there, they have h is there, they

1143
01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:50.640
have do they have projects there?
Marian I think you guys go into projects

1144
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:55.119
there, right, You talking about
or else three or two ninety eight ninety

1145
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:58.279
eight? Yeah, yeah, we
had two ninety was a great area because

1146
01:28:58.279 --> 01:29:00.000
you got we really what you just
said. Look, I thought you were

1147
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.520
talking about one O three. I
don't know the area very well, but

1148
01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:05.880
to an idea, you had everything
over there, everything, every single thing

1149
01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:13.439
you could possibly imagine we had over
there. Hmm. Interesting. All right,

1150
01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:17.640
So let's let's move on a little
bit too. Captain. You're studying

1151
01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:26.800
and promoted Chaptain in two thousand and
three, is it it was April two?

1152
01:29:27.840 --> 01:29:32.199
Yeah? Yeah, that was uh
yeah, So I'm what happened was,

1153
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:35.239
uh, let me see if I
get my time right, Okay,

1154
01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:40.439
So I'm on like, that's what
happened. I'm on light duty with the

1155
01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:45.960
asthma thing, and they want me
to write help write the Lieutenant test.

1156
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:51.600
I had one before and it was
terrible. It was just a terrible Uh.

1157
01:29:53.239 --> 01:30:00.600
That was the one that helped by
Then all right, the the test,

1158
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:04.439
the first test that I helped write. They had ten of us and

1159
01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:09.399
everybody was on their own timeline.
You know, write two questions and you

1160
01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:14.159
could leave or you know, and
people were putting like Seinfeld references in the

1161
01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:20.560
questions. And when you're writing a
test, you're just submitting a question to

1162
01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:27.279
dcast department of what is the city
Department of Administrative Services or something like that

1163
01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:33.520
did not fight upon people they were
in the city, and so questions got

1164
01:30:34.399 --> 01:30:36.680
I think, I don't know,
we'd have to look this up, but

1165
01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:41.600
it's probably one of the most protested. You know, I think in that

1166
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:45.920
test, ten of my questions made
it, and none of them are protests.

1167
01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:55.159
So then when they recruit recruited,
they recruited me and two yeah,

1168
01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:59.680
two thousand and one to help write
the test. That was supposed to be

1169
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:05.720
of an in October two thousand and
one, and it was me, you

1170
01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:15.239
guys gotta know yack of course,
yeah, everybody knows jacks no yack com

1171
01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:19.800
ovid Oh chief, yeah, oh
chief, Yeah, that's what you're talking

1172
01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:26.199
about. Yack. This is and
uh, what else is it? Rudy

1173
01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:32.520
Wyland, you know him and Chris
Jinocchio, Chris God he wrote he was

1174
01:31:32.640 --> 01:31:35.520
I didn't know that he worked in
the squad with us. He was Louis

1175
01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:42.199
twenty four though, such a nice
guy. I'd be like, yeah,

1176
01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:44.079
Chris, what do you want to
do this twenty four? He's like,

1177
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:45.319
I don't know, what do you
want to do? I don't know.

1178
01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:46.239
I don't know. I said,
I'm gonna do it the first Okay,

1179
01:31:46.439 --> 01:31:51.279
okay, okay, Louie, alright. Nice. It was a nice guy.

1180
01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:56.960
He was too the job. I
think he was try but I think

1181
01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:00.479
he disappeared. I mean, I
don't Yeah, he doesn't. I've spoken

1182
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:04.000
to Rudy. I don't know what
happened. Yeah, I don't know what

1183
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:09.199
happened to him either. He doesn't
come to anything after that. I really

1184
01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:13.239
don't know it. Yeah, I
have no idea, but real nice guy.

1185
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:16.800
So we get in the room,
the four of us, and I

1186
01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:20.079
told the guys, I said,
listen, I did this before and it

1187
01:32:20.199 --> 01:32:24.960
was terrible. It was a cluster. You know what I said. I

1188
01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:28.000
don't want to do this again.
I said, if you guys want to

1189
01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:30.680
work with me, I've done this
before, and if we all want to

1190
01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:35.359
work together, if we write a
question, it has three of us have

1191
01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:40.960
to give it dumb thought, and
if three of us can't agree that it's

1192
01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:45.119
a good question, we shouldn't put
the question in. And that a pretty

1193
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:50.319
good test. M Yeah, why
did you think they asked you to put

1194
01:32:50.359 --> 01:32:57.279
the test together? Originally? You
know what I think? Diversity definitely,

1195
01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:03.479
you know the first point it was
definitely did the rank? Yeah, it

1196
01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:09.279
was your education back then? Maybe
possibly, Yeah, you know how to

1197
01:33:09.279 --> 01:33:14.039
be of the rank. So so
anyway, I was, uh, I

1198
01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:18.600
was in the fight upont and you
know, managing that pist locker. I

1199
01:33:18.680 --> 01:33:25.760
was doing a great job. I
don't think it was nobody's business, Like,

1200
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:30.840
what is this girl here? He's
cleaning the piss locker. Anyway,

1201
01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:34.359
so I'm in I'm in there and
they want me to write your past.

1202
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:39.359
But you have to be full duty
to write the test. So doctor Kelly,

1203
01:33:40.279 --> 01:33:43.119
Uh, I go into doctor Kelly, she goes and of course,

1204
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:45.000
now we know doctor Kelly is the
whole time we're on the job, you

1205
01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:50.439
know, and wonderful, wonderful,
wonderful person. And she's like, look,

1206
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:54.600
I'm gonna put your full duty,
but only to write this test.

1207
01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:58.960
You understand that, right, And
of course yeah, I wouldn't go you

1208
01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:02.239
know, back on you know,
my word on that or whatever. Yeah,

1209
01:34:02.279 --> 01:34:04.800
so she put me full duty just
so I could write the test.

1210
01:34:05.159 --> 01:34:10.079
And then so that was going to
say spring of two thousand and one,

1211
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:14.880
and then unfortunately the test was supposed
to be given Otoba of two thousand and

1212
01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:17.720
one. The test was already done
in the in the bank by August of

1213
01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:20.680
two thousand and one, and then
nine to eleven happened, and then we

1214
01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:25.239
would just suspended. We were just
suspended a minute. They didn't know what

1215
01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:28.039
theck to do with us, you
know, and we did a lot of

1216
01:34:28.079 --> 01:34:33.319
stuff that was you know, yeah, you ended up going to flips too,

1217
01:34:33.359 --> 01:34:38.279
right at that point then because we
were talking about clips. Because they

1218
01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:41.319
didn't want us to go on the
field, you know, we had to

1219
01:34:41.359 --> 01:34:45.600
wait until the test was given,
and I don't remember exactly when test was

1220
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:55.159
given. So we were flying things
like the Notifications Unit nine eleven Notifications Unit.

1221
01:34:56.640 --> 01:35:01.960
I was right after nine eleven happened. Boom, you go back to

1222
01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:08.840
the firehouse and I was signed to
work the three, the three three battalion

1223
01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:12.640
whatever and then oh no, we
can't let these people go on the field.

1224
01:35:12.680 --> 01:35:15.840
And then they scootered us up,
and you know, I was actually

1225
01:35:16.199 --> 01:35:20.119
I actually slept in Chief Gancy's office
the day after nine to eleven. That

1226
01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:28.720
night, I was there with Masuchi
Stevie clean out the Chief's office and then

1227
01:35:29.279 --> 01:35:33.159
we were I don't think we were
founders of it, but we were on

1228
01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:42.319
the ground level of the Family Assistance
Unit. They even called in von Essen.

1229
01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:45.279
I worked right under Vaughan Essen for
this unit that they called in.

1230
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:48.039
I wish I knew the name of
it. But these people came in.

1231
01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:53.119
It was like it was like a
database kind of unit, because you know,

1232
01:35:53.199 --> 01:35:56.720
after nine eleven, you know,
people didn't know whose family was who,

1233
01:35:56.920 --> 01:35:59.520
and you know, not to speak
out of school, but you know,

1234
01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:02.159
it wasn't that straight forward. You
know, who's entitled to wide or

1235
01:36:04.039 --> 01:36:09.479
things like that. So I was
assigned to those people. Uh and then

1236
01:36:09.680 --> 01:36:14.199
you know, finally we were allowed
whenever the test was given. I don't

1237
01:36:14.239 --> 01:36:16.479
remember when I was given, but
as soon as the test was given,

1238
01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:20.680
uh, we were allowed to go
back to the field. And I guess

1239
01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:29.520
in that time frame, I became
promoted to captain. And then they recruited

1240
01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:34.039
me for Flips because the guy in
Flips who was a fire marshal and a

1241
01:36:34.079 --> 01:36:40.800
captain, which is what the carteria
they needed, was retired, so they

1242
01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:46.000
wanted me to go to Flips.
I was trying to remember because I was

1243
01:36:46.039 --> 01:36:49.960
in Flips in Junivo two and you
had to be there. Right. We

1244
01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:55.960
said that you did the fire marshal
part of that, right, you said,

1245
01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:59.319
well, we switched around everything that
we did, but I was the

1246
01:36:59.399 --> 01:37:03.199
only one that could the fire marshal
segment. I also did the educational methodology

1247
01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:10.279
guys would segment and the one that
public speaking segments. Do you remember that?

1248
01:37:10.520 --> 01:37:13.880
Yeah? Yeah, you had that
you get the can right, and

1249
01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:15.840
you picked the monopoly piece out of
it and you had to talk about it

1250
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:19.560
for two minutes or whatever the heck
it was. That was funny though,

1251
01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:25.000
right to see these guys and then
they had to speak, But first it

1252
01:37:25.039 --> 01:37:28.239
was two minutes. Then it was
five minutes and they were going to have

1253
01:37:28.359 --> 01:37:31.399
like a battle movement on the floor. I remember I had to uh,

1254
01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:38.239
I had to uh. We had
to give a drill on anything, right,

1255
01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:41.359
not fire, not firefighting wise,
but we had to give a drill

1256
01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:46.840
and I did. My wife was
a hygienist and she had this like model

1257
01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:51.520
of teeth. It was like this
big and I did a drill on how

1258
01:37:51.560 --> 01:37:54.840
to floss your teeth, you know
what I mean. I still think about

1259
01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:56.760
it all the time. But like
you said, everybody had to get up

1260
01:37:56.800 --> 01:38:00.600
there and and do something at some
point, you know, doing drilling,

1261
01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:02.399
and like you said, for somebody
who has never been up there doing a

1262
01:38:02.479 --> 01:38:05.039
drill or talk in front of anybody, it's a little weird, like you

1263
01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:14.960
said, initially, but the boys
had to do the macarena. So did

1264
01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:17.199
Kelly. Did they put your back
full duty permanently or no, you didn't.

1265
01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:20.399
Was I'm trying to think of what
happened. Yeah, I must have

1266
01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:25.640
been having visits to the medical office. Yeah, and doctor Bizant he was

1267
01:38:25.720 --> 01:38:29.439
terrific. I mean he had me
on all kinds of different medications, different

1268
01:38:29.479 --> 01:38:32.439
inhalers and what have you. And
I was cured. I was actually or

1269
01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:35.800
to asthma. And back then,
they didn't think that that was possible,

1270
01:38:36.119 --> 01:38:39.600
you know, they didn't think that
I didn't want to go out. You

1271
01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:42.560
know, I was young, I
you know, I was I was a

1272
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:45.279
lieutenant. I had my sight set
on becoming a captain, and I didn't

1273
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:49.199
want to go out at that point
in my career. And yeah, so

1274
01:38:49.359 --> 01:38:54.239
I was very fortunate to be in
that position. Very fortunate. You bounced

1275
01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:58.479
around the fourteenth Division. I didn't
bounce too much, to be honest with

1276
01:38:58.560 --> 01:39:01.960
you, only because I and slips
and at that time it was after nine

1277
01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:06.319
eleven and we just had class after
class. You have to class to Cliss.

1278
01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:11.560
There was one point in time where
we had three classes rotating through.

1279
01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:15.039
I mean we'd get there seven o'clock
in the morning and be there at ten

1280
01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:17.640
o'clock at night. Just you know, they needed they needed the bodies.

1281
01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:25.560
And yeah, so if there was
a tour available and I could work it

1282
01:39:25.600 --> 01:39:28.680
in, of course I would.
Yeah, I wanted to. But to

1283
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:31.439
say that I did a lot twas
I did though, I was like,

1284
01:39:31.479 --> 01:39:35.319
oh man, this thinks, because
like that really not one of the I

1285
01:39:35.399 --> 01:39:40.199
was. You know, I did
actually at some point become one of the

1286
01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:43.359
boys, of course, but now
you're really not one of the boys.

1287
01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:45.680
Not only Chase, you're a woman, but you're not one of the boys

1288
01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:49.159
because you're not from that company.
You're bouncing. Oh no, what some

1289
01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:53.119
of the places in the fourteenth that
you enjoyed working and that you can remember?

1290
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:57.840
It was mostly to be honest,
It was over like by Douglason all

1291
01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:02.039
that way. It was like quiet. It was like I really remember going

1292
01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:06.640
on be honest with you. I
mean, you know, but again,

1293
01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:10.279
you know, you got to think
about it. It was a really short

1294
01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:14.279
amount of time, right, two
or two retired and two or three So

1295
01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:16.199
what was that captain? For a
year and a half and a year and

1296
01:40:16.239 --> 01:40:20.079
a half I was doing flips?
So how many tours did I work in

1297
01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:24.359
the field as a captain? I
never caught a job as captain? Oh

1298
01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:29.000
no, no, it was only
a year and a half, you know,

1299
01:40:29.199 --> 01:40:30.279
And it was after nine to eleven. You were doing all that other

1300
01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:34.840
card stuff, right, Oh yeah, So any regrets? Would you do

1301
01:40:34.880 --> 01:40:38.359
anything different? I was just going
to say that cool. That was my

1302
01:40:38.479 --> 01:40:45.840
question. He told us questions.
Now we know each other, what would

1303
01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:48.800
I do different? You know what
I don't know. Everything I did was

1304
01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:54.279
a new experience. Every day was
a new experience. It was different.

1305
01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:57.600
You never knew what was going to
happen, you know. You know,

1306
01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:01.319
I don't think. I really don't
think there was something I could have done

1307
01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:05.359
different. You know. Grateful I
was true to myself. I'll be honest

1308
01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:09.079
with that. I was grateful.
I always cheated myself, you know,

1309
01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:13.760
right, I'm grateful. I had
a wonderful family. You know, my

1310
01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:16.840
mom, my brother, my children. You know, I had a good

1311
01:41:16.840 --> 01:41:19.199
support system. You know, a
lot of the women didn't have that.

1312
01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:24.560
Yeah, you know, they were
still around. My mom passed away like

1313
01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:29.159
twenty years ago. Oh she was
not young in that picture that you took

1314
01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:31.760
when you got promoted. Can but
that was two two when she died into

1315
01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:35.319
four. Oh wow, so she
was seventy three actually in that picture.

1316
01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:41.079
Yeah, I'll take it. Well
maybe not, maybe a little more than

1317
01:41:41.079 --> 01:41:45.239
that. Let me let me ramble
off the three questions. You ready clean

1318
01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:54.520
mind? Best meal in the firehouse? Oh that's a good one. Oh

1319
01:41:54.760 --> 01:42:00.399
clim check used to make what's that
stake? Flank's sake? He used to

1320
01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:04.920
cut it. This guy must have
had a razor. He got to cut

1321
01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:12.239
that man, he knew how to
cut that steak. It was d delicious,

1322
01:42:12.439 --> 01:42:17.520
alight licious. That's what best movie
in the firehouse. Oh I go

1323
01:42:17.640 --> 01:42:26.520
there. I remember I really never
went in the TV room. Never.

1324
01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:30.720
I'll say you probably never went in
the TV room. No. One time

1325
01:42:30.760 --> 01:42:33.039
I was really tied down a TV
room. And I'm not going to give

1326
01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:35.760
too many details, but I thought
I was watching a movie about parrots,

1327
01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:43.319
and well that's not what it was. But I do remember watching Junkyard Dogs

1328
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:47.720
in the in the in the TV
room, and I do you know what's

1329
01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:53.000
good about the fire has to watch
the movie because like, like, for

1330
01:42:53.039 --> 01:42:56.560
instance, the movies. I just
remember the movie City of Angels. You

1331
01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:59.359
didn't know what it was about because
you watched like this part of it and

1332
01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:01.319
then you went out. Yeah,
yeah, you never watched the whole thing,

1333
01:43:01.479 --> 01:43:04.039
right, maybe another part of it
was on, or it took you

1334
01:43:04.119 --> 01:43:08.479
like a week to watch the movie. And then once you watch the whole

1335
01:43:08.479 --> 01:43:12.479
movie, you're like, oh that's
what you know what? It was a

1336
01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:15.560
good movie or whatever. They would
have that movie on constantly, like you

1337
01:43:15.600 --> 01:43:18.159
would watch that movie a thousand times, Like pulp fiction. We must have

1338
01:43:18.199 --> 01:43:21.520
watched a thousand times. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,

1339
01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:26.479
last question, best night to work
in the fire house? Best night?

1340
01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:30.600
Yeah? What do you mean day
of the week or it's only one

1341
01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:33.359
night better than Friday night and the
fire Saturday night in the fire house.

1342
01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:41.079
I guess, I don't I don't
know. I didn't like. I didn't

1343
01:43:41.079 --> 01:43:45.560
like Sunday night because you know,
that was like the meal was terrible,

1344
01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:49.079
right, nobody cooked. But I
was in South Jamaica, so you know

1345
01:43:50.039 --> 01:43:56.359
back then the supermarks closed or whatever, Chinese food from god knows where.

1346
01:43:57.119 --> 01:44:00.159
You know, it was always usually
shiny food on a Sunday night Chinese.

1347
01:44:01.319 --> 01:44:06.079
But the hell they were making in
that Chinese food play right, Yeah,

1348
01:44:06.560 --> 01:44:12.840
it's something that was not my favorite
York Yeah right, I got that right.

1349
01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:15.800
I got a quick, funny Chinese
food story. Are you ready for

1350
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:20.159
this one? So my wife is
Asian, right, and uh, my

1351
01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:24.880
brother in law lived about I don't
know, five blocks for the fire house.

1352
01:44:25.439 --> 01:44:29.079
So it's a Sunday night and he
has to stop by and pick up

1353
01:44:29.159 --> 01:44:30.680
keys from me. I don't know
what it was. He shows up and

1354
01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:34.760
it's like it's like the window.
He's got a flip flops and shorts and

1355
01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:44.640
somebody sends over the loud speaking Chinese
foods. My father in law Chinese foods

1356
01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:50.119
in that's freaking awesome. That's awesome, all right, you know, you

1357
01:44:50.159 --> 01:44:55.159
know, can we just play a
little tribute to John Clancy who lost his

1358
01:44:55.239 --> 01:45:01.199
life my love? Yeah, because
I was out and you know, I

1359
01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:04.399
think it would be just a nice
shout. It's not a shout out,

1360
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:06.840
you know, but yeah, you
know what, that was a lot of

1361
01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:11.039
death and although it happened several years
ago, we're going to give him the

1362
01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:15.119
tribute on the five bells tonight.
Okay, I like it ready, mm

1363
01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:30.560
hmm. That's for you, mama. All right, Now we have to

1364
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:33.239
get some more information from you,
you know about the old school tip of

1365
01:45:33.239 --> 01:45:38.600
the day, right I do?
Are you ready for it? I am

1366
01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:40.760
all right, Mike, Let's do
it. You ready? All right?

1367
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:48.520
It's time for the old school goal
tip of the day day, Take it

1368
01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:54.720
away, happen on end. Okay. Always, whether you're the senior man

1369
01:45:54.720 --> 01:45:58.800
at the probe, whatever you are
and the job, always check your own

1370
01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:02.000
equipment, actually your mask. If
you're on a job, you hear your

1371
01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:08.000
alarm going off. There's a little
o ring that connects the hose uh to

1372
01:46:08.119 --> 01:46:13.199
the cylinder and if you're out in
cold quite some time, that O ring

1373
01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:15.920
can shrink a little bit, so
your mask me it seems like it's malfunctioning,

1374
01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:23.720
but it's really just the O ring
track it. Once you get back

1375
01:46:23.720 --> 01:46:28.319
in the warmer, you know space, your mask is going to be fine.

1376
01:46:28.439 --> 01:46:30.439
But never let someone check the equipment
that you're going to be relying on

1377
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:34.880
that your life is going to be
relying on. Amen. That's such an

1378
01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:39.479
obvious one. And I don't think
anybody's getting that happened to you? Roof

1379
01:46:39.560 --> 01:46:42.119
you didn't check your own mask or
something? Yeah, and I tried to

1380
01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:50.000
put the face pisces on. There
was a cheetahbar in there instead of I

1381
01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:54.840
know, if somebody told me it
happened, it's been sets going around now.

1382
01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:58.520
I did check the air. I
just it was the mask. Was

1383
01:46:58.560 --> 01:47:01.359
that. I just purged it.
I didn't actually ah after that. You

1384
01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:04.319
never did that again, though,
right? Never? Good job? What's

1385
01:47:04.319 --> 01:47:09.680
the scroll and the arranging? Game
going over overtime? Oh again? For

1386
01:47:09.760 --> 01:47:11.960
the second straight game. They were
up to one with a minute to goo.

1387
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:15.199
Carolina, on an empty net,
scored a game time goal with the

1388
01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:17.119
minute in the half. Well,
I want to thank you Captain Many for

1389
01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:19.560
coming on. I thoroughly enjoyed you. Know what. I want to thank

1390
01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:24.479
whale ship. What's his real what's
his real name? Mario? His real

1391
01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:28.279
name is Matthew. He's currently changing
it to Mario because my husband's name is

1392
01:47:28.319 --> 01:47:34.319
Mario Mario. All right, technical
help. We really appreciate it. Thank

1393
01:47:34.359 --> 01:47:43.079
you, good luck at one hundred
tree POSTA. Your husband was from Italy,

1394
01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:46.159
right, he was from Avelino,
Italy. Yes, did you have

1395
01:47:46.239 --> 01:48:02.319
the red peppa hanging from this from
the what is that brollion? Like?

1396
01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:08.479
Exactly? Awesome? All right,
cap thanks for coming on. I appreciate

1397
01:48:08.520 --> 01:48:18.880
it a great time. Uh oh
well roll well, let's uh we can

1398
01:48:18.920 --> 01:48:21.840
always just put her in the back
until she comes back. We'll talk to

1399
01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:28.319
her. Okay, let's put her
back on. All right, there you

1400
01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:32.079
go, I'm back sharing your career
with us. Had a great time.

1401
01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:36.039
Thanks for coming on me too,
Thank you guys for having me. Good

1402
01:48:36.119 --> 01:48:39.880
luck to you guys in your careers. Good luck, Thank you very much.

1403
01:48:40.439 --> 01:48:42.680
We will see you Monday. We
don't have a guest for now,

1404
01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:46.680
but we'll drum up something and Thursday
we're off the Hattiesburg. All right for

1405
01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:49.560
y'all. All right, Mike,
anything else, any shout out do you

1406
01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:55.039
want to give mikey uh no,
just as always to the west all my

1407
01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:57.960
peeps at the West Haven Fire Department. Today we did more rich training down

1408
01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:00.479
at the fire school, So shout
out to all my peeps from shift.

1409
01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:03.119
And since we have a woman guest
on tonight, the we have two female

1410
01:49:03.159 --> 01:49:06.640
firefighters that were on the BRIT training
today, Shout out to Lauren Womett and

1411
01:49:06.760 --> 01:49:12.199
Helen Hickey, who did a great
job with the BRIT today. Tones dropped

1412
01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:15.039
that I did the uh no,
no, not yet, at least not

1413
01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:17.039
yet. At least I haven't got
in the box a little bit, so

1414
01:49:17.119 --> 01:49:20.640
we'll see what happens. All right, guys, we'll see you on Monday

1415
01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:25.159
night. Until then, stay low
and go Thanks again, cap, We'll

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see everybody. It was a pleasure
behalf of Captain Marion mon An, Lui

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Frano, Kevin Coobler and all of
you in the audience tonight on Mike Colone.

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We will see you next time.
Go nix Goo Rangers and as always,

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be advised, folks, the Tones
are dropping. Take care, good night,