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the show, Hello, Dave, Welcome to the show. Hi mate,
thank you for joining us today. And you were calling from South Wales.
Yeah that's right, Yeah, just as stones throw away from me, that
is Dave. Now, Dave, you have an experience to share from two
thousand and seven. Would you like to start at the beginning, please,
sir? Yeah, okay, well yeah, I'll start right at the beginning
of this episode, if you like. I was working at a I was
working as a driver for an old American airbase. Basically there was being used
to store cars. And while I was working there, I met a guy
called Ricky, and it was a really cool guy and we hit it off
immediately, and then we saw quite soon discovered that we both had a similar
interest in things like UFOs and esoteric subjects and meditation stuff like that. So
neither of us were into drinking and stuff. So we decided that like for
fun, we would start going out and just doing like basically skywatches. So
we started quite regularly going to this place called Brill Hill, which in Oxfordshire
is like kind of one of the highest points. And we've got up there
and we had like a these little fishing bags that sort of doubled up as
chairs and stuff, and we'd take flasks with us and stuff, and we'd
sit there and sort of like chat and meditate and stuff and SkyWatch and most
of the time, like nothing ever really happened. We did see a couple
of weird lights occasionally, and it was all just kind of good, relaxing
fund basically. So what happened to us starts one night basically where we'd been
up Brill Hill and we sat there and again it was a non eventful night,
but we were there until about quarter to eleven and then we decided to
come home, so we got in the car I was driving. Were so
we're driving back to Bistera and the road picks up the Ellsbury Road and then
it brings you to aroundabout which the graven Hill Military Distribution Base is on,
which is on the outskirts of Bister. We picked up the Ring Road going
anti clockwise around Bister and literally as we got onto that dual carriageway I noticed
immediately as we turned onto that road that there was a massive white light that
was it's hard to judge a distance because it was never seen anything like it
before and it had There was nothing I could see other than this this big
white light that was I think to say, would be about the size of
your fist at an arm's length, but shining like a star. It basically
it was it just looked like a star had come down and was huge,
you know. So I wound down the window. Rick Us is obviously in
the passenger seat, and he's like leaning in front of me and getting a
look at this thing. We've got the window down and we can hear that
there is nothing to be heard at this point. I slowed the car right
down as well. And there was about eleven o'clock at night. There was
no traffic on the road or anything. It was pretty quiet. It was
like a Tuesday night and we're crawling along and we're watching this UFO and it's
basically it kind of overtakes us, but it's not going very fast. I
mean, I would say that we were probably going about thirty miles an hour,
and it was just kind of gently overtaking us. And at the same
time, it was losing altitude. It was like dropping down, like I
said, like a feather. It would just kind of go along and then
all of a sudden like droop down and then go along and then just like
drooped down again. And I kind of sensed that like that. It was
almost like it was in distress. It was like as if it was coming
down. But it shouldn't have been that kind of feeling. I don't know,
I can't confirm that, but it's just how it felt to us.
So so basically I came up against another roundabout. We went round that roundabout,
carried on the dual carriageway. It was still there in the sky,
but very low at this point, you know, and we're literally just looking
up look above the tree tops, and it was just like a nice line
of sight there. And I would say it was, you know, it
may have been five hundred to a thousand yards away from us. So we
carried on going. We could just like kind of follow in it, you
know, and it keeps going down and then it goes down behind the tree
line, but you can still see it. It's like shining, you know,
shining, but you can see it through the trees. And we carried
on. We would go over the next roundabout, and then it seems I
pulled up. As soon as we got past the next roundabout, we put
we stopped the car and we just sat there with the window down, just
hid. Basically had gone into a kind of hyper state of awareness. I
wouldn't say it was like a like an odd factor or anything, but it
was just it just seem something that you you haven't seen before, and you
know, you just kind of like absolutely alert. My mind was absolutely empty,
if you like. And I was just watching and we could sense,
even though we couldn't see it directly at that point, but it seemed to
have stopped. It wasn't the light that shine from, it wasn't moving it.
It seemed to have settled. And I knew that it kind of settled
in the field the rough tor right. So we sat there and we was
like, what we're going to do, because the thing is, we were
into UFOs, you know, we were going out skywatching. We were interested
in the subject, and all of suddenly it got very real and it was
like it was like a moment of well, if we drive away now,
might as well just give up all interesting UFOs because here's a UFO that has
come down. And it's like if you're not brave enough to go and have
a look at what's going on, then like just you might as well just
forget the whole subject. So I sort of looked at Ricky and he said,
they've looked over the road, and right opposite over the road was one
of these little foot styles, you know, like a public footpath sign and
we were like, okay, right that you know, the universe, if
you like, is telling us, you know, we are going into that
field. So so part of the car properly and we got out and we
went across the road and we went over the style and then when we got
over there, it didn't take you immediately into the field. There was like
a little lane that we kind of walked up for about fifty yards and then
it turned left and then we went over another style into the first field.
So we got into that field and it was it was kind of weird,
but there was there was like a mist on the floor and we could see
then that the the UFO it wasn't in that field. It was in the
next field along and there was another line of trees and a kind of hedgerow,
and you could quite clearly see that it was on the other side of
that in that field. You know, you could kind of just about see
it directly. But at that point, so we must submit it. Like
what happened was was that we sid we kind of felt like brave for having
done what we've done, because everyone sort of tells themselves, oh yeah,
if aliens landed, I'd go up and say hello and stuff. Like this,
but be honestly, there was a kind of air of danger about the
whole thing, and there had no idea what awaited us or anything. So
we I was discussed it with Rick and I said, look, regularly,
you know, let's let's just hang here and have a fag, all right,
Let's just wait and see what happens. Because I said, if it
takes off, I said, that'd be brilliant when we'll see it. We'll
see it take off, and you know, that would be an amazing story.
Said if it doesn't, which means it's still going to be there,
but it still will be there in ten minutes time, and we can then
go over to the next hedgerow we get eyes on it properly, and then
we can make our minds up about what the next step is. But let's
just just just take it easy, you know what I mean. It's just,
you know, I had a wife and kids, and I honestly genuinely
felt like, you know, like it was out of our comfort zone,
if you like. So we stood there and when we rolled see that's what
we did. You know, I still rolled backing out sort of like we
rolled cigis, and we stood there and we just chatted, and all the
time I had eyes on the glow that was coming from the next field.
And it was really weird because there we were in this situation where it's just
it's everything we've kind of like talked about and stuff, and and it was
happening, and we just had this kind of ten minute into the where we
just kind of enjoyed the moment that we were about to go and see a
UFO. We're about to go and see it properly, and who knows what
we're going to do. If if we can get through that hedge and we
can get into the next field, then maybe we were going to go up
to it, you know whatever. We just we didn't know what was a
behead of us. So we kind of like had that last cigarette if you
like, you know, and then so we put the cigarettes out and then
we said, right, okay, So I said to them, let's walk
out to the middle of the field and then we'll we'll go up to the
hedgerow and we'll have a look and then that's and then we'll take it from
there. So we started walking and this is when things got really were really
weird. So we started walking and I say we were both sober, you
know this like this, It was just we were in a normal state of
consciousness, nervous and hyper vigilant. But that was it. So we started
walking out into the middle of the field. We got no more than like
twenty yards out from where we were stood, where all of a sudden,
I and Ricky at the same time. But although we didn't really speak to
each other because it happened really quickly and like we didn't have time, we
were both basically assumed very wide eyed and silent. But I saw between the
twelve and fifteen guys coming the other way, and they weren't coming straight towards
us, because we were still off to the right hand side of the field
a bit. They were walking as if they were walking straight from the hedge
and coming out towards the middle of the field, and we, like I
say, we were slightly off to the right hand side of the field.
Like looking at them now, I didn't count them. I just wasn't.
I didn't have time to do any of that. And at the time I
didn't have a smartphone or anything. I had a ten pound phone. I
could make techs off. Thus about it, I don't think it would have
I don't think I would have taken a picture anyway. I don't think it
just wasn't it just wouldn't have been appropriate or whatever. At the time it
was, it was like concerned from everyone's safety. Basically, Now these guys
they looked like people wearing hazmat suits. So if you know, like that
kind of you know when you see the films and stuff and they've got the
kind of clear visor. It was a white hood kind of coming down and
it just like covers the whole body as if you know, like they're in
a you know, hazmat suit. Basically, they all had them on.
They were walking like shoulders and shoulder but not in a like a uniformed way
like it was. It quite it looked casual, you know, like there
was two of them and then like three of them, and then one and
then another two. You know, they were kind of like just as if
like friends are walking along the street together or whatever. But but they were
in a like a like a flat line and they were walking across the f
or now just watching them. To say, this all happened very quickly.
I think that it would happened at exactly the same time that Ricky put his
hand up and pointed at them. I think he said anything to me,
but he put his hand up and he pointed at them. I think it
was almost like an involuntary thing, that he was just looking and just put
his pointed a finger at them. Now at that exact time, one of
them turned around and looked at me. Now when when he looked at me
at that moment, his face, I'd say they were probably at at least
a hundred yards away from us in the field, and his face was it
was like he was nose to nose with me. I can't describe it.
I don't know how he happened. I don't know. I don't feel like
he projected physically over to me. But it was like he turned, he
looked at me, and he looked me in the eye, and then he
was like a nose to nose and I could see his face really clearly,
and he looked human, but but not it was so that I think the
visor had a color on it, so that because he had a kind of
bluish green tint to his face. But I think it was the whole visor.
I don't think it was necessarily I couldn't say it was skin color because
I think the whole visor had that kind of tint to it, and I
could I could see obviously through the visor into his face, and he had
eyes and eyebrows and nose and the mouth and like cheese bones, just like
a person. But there was something about the way it was all put together
that just like didn't quite look human. But if I describe him, i'd
have to just you know, he had eye that and pupils and you know,
all the rest of it, exactly like a human being. But there
was something about the angles that just the way that it knows was and stuff
that made him look almost a little bit more pixie like than a human being.
That he came across as I would say, they were looked about six
foot tall. They looked the same sort of build as us. And at
the same time that he was in my face, I felt dread and I
felt that like, even though I think it would have been justified to have
felt that dread, I felt like he gave me that dread, that he
was projecting that fear into me, like it just felt external. But I
couldn't control it. I couldn't do anything about it. I'm not an easily
I wouldn't consider myself to be an easily scared person. You know. I
was in the Army and I worked on doors and there was a boxer and
stuff, and not generally an easily panics person. But I couldn't do anything
about it. I felt my stomach go and I wanted to get away from
that feeling like nothing else, and he projected a thought in my head.
I don't know if I should swear, but it basically I heard him tell
me to f off, and I turned and I ran, And I hate
to say it, but I didn't even look for Ricky. I just turned
and I ran, and I couldn't stop myself. I had to get away
from what he was giving me. I had to get away from it.
And I turned and I like just ran as fast as I could back towards
the fence. As it happened, Ricky was literally placing me. He was
just off to my right, and I basically got to the fence and I
never even looked back. I felt like I was running for my life.
That's how it felt. It felt like if I turned around that I was
dead. So I carried on running and went straight over the fence, went
straight down the lane. At that point, I think I became aware that
Ricky was with me. I could hear him next to me, sort of
thing. I still haven't said anything to each other, but we were both
basically running when over the next stiletto the road went straight across the road like
just got in the car without saying anything, started the car up and started
driving. Now there's a little side note. As I started driving away,
police car came the other way, and I remember, like when I got
home, thinking, car, those coppers, like they're driving around at like,
you know, half past eleven on a Tuesday night, thinking there's nothing
going on around here tonight. It's boring. I was thinking if they only
knew like what they'd driven past. But they didn't even seem to look at
us, you know, like two sort of youngish guys in the car,
you know. And I don't think we were speeding or anything, but we
if they'd seen our faces, I'm pretty sure we would have looked like we've
just been through something and like. But they didn't like even give us any
attention. They just drove past, and you know, and they carried on.
So basically we carry on driving. When I got to the next round
about I sort of started to think about looking over and shoulder, but I
couldn't see anything, couldn't see any light, couldn't see any glow of a
light or anything. So basically drove straight back to my house. I had
another tea and a fag with Ricky and we were just we were just in
this funny place like you were just like looking at each other, like you
know, did that happen? That? It did happen and there was nothing
to be done about it. It was like it was over, and like
basically then I dropped him home. I went home and went to bed because
I had to go to work next day. So you know, the next
day I saw Rickie at work and he was like he was because he was
a plater on the cards, so I wouldn't see him all day long.
I just see him periodically and we were just like, you know, that
was a bit mad what happened last night? And he was like, yep,
he's not mad. Of many words, Ricky. It was just like
yep, that was pretty mad, and you know, we carried on like
we're still friends now. We unfortunately he still lives in England and I live
in Wales, so we don't get to see each other very often, maybe
once or twice a year at best. We still talk about it because we're
the only two people in the world that know that it happened. We tried
to tell other people about it initially, and what we found was was that
hardly anyone was interested, Like people just weren't interested at all. They weren't
really paying us any attention. We sort of thought, isn't it the most
amazing thing you've ever heard? And people would be like, oh, I
don't know, and it was like I thought, they either don't believe us,
or they just don't understand what we're saying. We saw, you know.
So So anyway, the next few months, I had a couple of
like strange things happen, which I would say, we you know, we
never told anybody or mattered as far as I could see. But it all
started when I came back to my house and we just popped out, me
and more wives than the kids. We came back and our front door was
wide open, and I thought, Okay, we had never done that before,
you know, when inside check, there was nothing hadn't obviously been broken
into. And we lived in a close where we kind of knew all the
neighbors pretty well. Everyone kind of over saw everybody and there was nothing untoward
and that so the next day we came back and the front door was open
again. It was just and it was wide open, like it was just.
It happened three times that week, and I genuinely started to sort of
think there was something odd about it. So there was the following week after
that happened. I was in the kitchen, which was at the front of
the house, and it had like a window over the sink, just looking
out over the coach, like you know I do, and I got up.
I had been sat down for a while and I got up. Another
guy up. I realized there was a car parked out the front of my
house, and it was quite a nice car. I don't exactly what it
was, it was, you know, it was it was it was a
newish car. And there was a guy sitting inside the car and he was
staring at the house, and I thought that he's a bit odd. So
I just stood there and I was just watched him and he was just staring.
So then he got out the car and I thought, what's this Because
he got out of the car and he looked like military. He looked fit
and lean, and he looked like like he could hurt people. And he
just stared. He just stared at me through the window. Casually pulled a
camera up and took a photo. Now I was in a place where I
was just stood there, and I thought, I'm not engaging this guy.
I'm not going to go out of the house. There was something menacing about
him. And he very slowly, whilst not taking his eyes off me,
got back into the car slowly and then just drove away slowly, as if
he was saying, I'm not intimidated by you, and you know I'm letting
you see me. And I didn't have enemies. I didn't, you know,
there was no reason, for other reason that I could be the case.
And I just thought to myself, what's going on here? And then
literally about three days later, I'm cooking dinner from my kids and we had
a house phone. It was one of those cordless ones, and my wife's
mum phoned, Well, my wife wasn't there, and I was literally a
dishing up dinner, and I put the phone into the cookoman neck, you
know, like you do to listen to someone talking when you haven't got your
hands free. And I was just like taking the stuff off the harbor that
and she all she said was like, you know, oh it's hazy there.
And I said, no, she's not here at the moment, okay,
and she and she said, okay, nowherese put the phone down.
Now I didn't. I was holding the phone in the cookman neck and I
didn't have my hands free. Look say so, I didn't turn the phone
off. And I heard someone as clear as day on the line say no,
he didn't say anything, and I went sorry, And as I said
that, the phone clicked and there was no one there. And I was
just thinking, I think, what's this about? Because I'm nobody. No
one's interested in what happened to me. You know. It was like,
not would it matter if I went to the papers or anything. It would
just be another UFO story from someone with no credentials. I just couldn't see
what the issue was, but it carried on happening. I went into the
park. At the time, we were fostering dogs, as in, we
were like a halfway home for dogs that were being really helped. The dogs
would come and live with us for a few months and we'd look after and
while families were coming and they come and visit them and if they've taken away.
So I was taking dogs for a walk over in a local park from
us and as I walked into the park, there was a woman in the
park and she was i'd say she was thirty thirty five, and she was
attractive, dark hair. She's sitting with it like a jacket on. But
she she was staring at me. And immediately like at this point, I'm
I'm already getting a little bit paranoid. I'm walking around a little bit sort
of, you know, I'm noticing things. And I stared back at her,
and then she looked away, and of course, because it was because
it was a woman, I was really like trying to obviously didn't want to
intimidate her or anything, but at the same time I felt that she was
she was staring at me, you know, she was so So I got
a dog and I'm just I'm throwing a stick for the dog and stuff,
and he's running picking up and then I look up at every time, every
now and then I'm just looking up, and she's on her own in this
park where most people are walking dogs, all got kids, but she's just
on her own and all she's every time I look up, she's she's looking
at me. And then when I look at her, she looks away.
But she's not going anywhere. She's just like take a few steps off and
then stop, you know. And she pulled out these glasses, so she
puts on a pair of these sunglasses, and she's got her back to me,
and she's like staring at the fence. Right, there's like these a
dispenses that are on the back of other people's gardens that surround the park.
And I'm thinking, everything about this woman is wrong, right, So that
the dog came up to me and I put the chain on him, and
I just started walking towards her. And I thought, I'm just going to
walk towards her and just stay hi to see if I can get anything out
of this, you know what I mean. I can't see from where I
am. The moment I started walking towards her, she took these glasses off,
put them in her coat. She had like a like the weather the
side hand bit would go, you know, and she just walked hurriedly out
the park on the opposite entrance. I carried on walking towards her. Now
she walked out of the park, these glasses dropped out of her pocket.
So I carried on walking. And when I got there, I thought,
right, I'm not going to follow her out of the park, you know,
like like I'm not just in case I'm mistaken and all this kind of
thing, you know, and like, you know, she might be being
intimidated by me, And I thought, fair enough, And I'm not not
chasing her down or anything. I just wanted to see what was going on
with her. So I picked these glasses up. Now, these glasses are
a pair of sunglasses which I later found out you can buy on the internet
and stuff. They had no insignia on them, no marks of like you
know of companies, but they had mirrors inside. So when she was had
her back to me and she was just staring supposedly at the fence, she
was actually watching me. And it looks like when you put them on,
it was like having mirrors and you could look and you could see behind you.
And I've never seen anything like it before. By the say, I
found out that apparently it is something that you can buy and people do or
whatever for riding bikes sometimes. But so I kept them at the house.
Obviously, it just took my home and put them in the house. And
I told a few people about it, and then came back to the house.
The door was unlocked. It's like it's just not stopping. Went in
and the glasses had gone. But that was the only thing that had gone,
the glasses where they were on the side. You know, there was
nobody else that I know would break into my house. You still glasses or
anything. You know, It's like they someone came in my house and took
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were just sitting over the house with their noses pointed towards the house and they've
had that before. And then I had a funny train ride where I took
a train to high Wickham to see a friend of mine. For the whole
journey there was a black helicopter. And again it's I think at this point
it's hard to know whether I'm being paran or what's going on, or whether
it's been done on purpose, because the surveillance all I could say it was
completely overt. I mean, no one was hiding what they were doing.
It was as if it wanted me to see them. But like, there
was a black helicopter that basically, and this is insane, it just paced
the carriage that I was sitting in and I'm sitting off to the right hand
side by the window, and it just sat out of the window. And
when we'd stop at a station, it would go up and it would circle,
and then when we would carry on going, it would come back down
and do it again. And it was one of these old like little two
seat helicopters with like the bubble shield front, and it had two guys in
it wearing all black with the black visors that you see, you know,
to come down over the face and made them look like insects, and they
basically were just staring at me. I was saying to other people in the
carriage, didn't anyone see this? And they were going, oh, yeah,
they didn't seem that interested. Again, it was strange, like it
was only me that seemed bothered about it. But they were staring at me.
For what I could you know, I know, they had black visors
on and stuff. You know, he could feel someone staringly. They were
staring at me, and they were so low they would fly away when it
was over the fields and stuff. They were just flying almost parallel with the
train, like you know, probably only maybe two hundred feet above it in
reality, I don't know, and staring at and I could see them.
They were that close. I could just see them, you know, every
detail, and they would just stare and like, yeah, it was.
It was bizarre. And then after a couple of months, like I said,
there was a number of things that happened, but they're the main things
that stick out in my mind. It just died off. And I have
to assume that, like, obviously, if this thing happened to us,
so I assume it happens to a lot of people. I assume that these
things happened to a lot of people, and like maybe it was just after
a couple of months, I wasn't interesting anymore, and someone else was,
you know, and something else was going on to somebody else. But like
it just kind of stopped. But it was enough for me to, like
in my own life to turn around and say, how I just I just
wanted to stop. I even like would pick up the phone and like and
just say to the deadline, you know, just say, look, if
you want to talk to me, just talk to me, but just stop
doing all this stuff. You know, Like whatever you want to know,
I'll tell you. I'm not your enemy. I'm not against you or anything.
If if you want to know something about what I know about it,
just just ask me. And there's nothing there's nothing I wouldn't tell you,
you know, as far as then them, we're all on the same side,
I shoot. But like it just was weird. It was like an
intimidation tactic just to make me feel unstable, and it just kind of died
off and then I just didn't see or hear anything weird ever again. On
with my life, I maintained an interest and I've always had an interest in
UFOs and paranormal stuff and that, you know, and esoterics stuff and you
know, just always found but that's it's to me, that's our life is
interesting whatever. But like I just basically carried on. And that was like
sixteen years ago, and it's only when I was I've stopped talking to anyone
about it. And then it was just so recently I just started binge listening
to your podcast, and I kept listening to people's incredible stories and of course
then you're you're saying at the start, you know, if anyone wants to
say, to tell me one of their experiences, and I thought, okay,
well, this is how I can contribute to your show, because I
you know, I don't have spare money as such, but I can tell
you something that happened to me and hopefully people will find it interested and hopefully
maybe something similar has happened to someone else, and sort of thinking, so
they shouldn't talk about it, but I think maybe right now, as things
are sort of progressing, especially in the UFO f it would maybe people should
be talking about it and just saying, oh, yeah, no, you
know, I'm a fairly normal person too. To me, Yeah, Nis
that's about it. I think, mate be fair good stuff, Dave good
stuff. So this is something that i've I've mentioned periodically on the show about
I call it kind of like a paranormal bubble, all right. It's where
weird things start to happen. The reason why you know they stopped interacting with
you is simply because you weren't talking about it. And I think I think
the initial the initial few weeks of if you having your experience, is usually
when you would tell someone, whether it's a family member or start telling friends
on the phone, or even possibly a journalist. So it looks like that
there was just nothing. I wouldn't say, nothing interesting about you. But
whatever they think you saw, you weren't. You weren't talking about it other
than to Ricky, Well it's it, you know. And I mean I
was firstly, I was really interested as to how they knew, you know,
because because of the fact that we hadn't really spoke to anyone, you
know, so I didn't I was just like, I was a bit perplexed
about how we'd gone from being in that field that night to then me getting
a lot of unwanted attention. So unless you don't know who you're speaking to
sometimes when you speak where you don't know or whether you don't know how whether
because you spoke to a friend on the phone about it, is that enough,
you know, like and then that's it that somehow that there are even
sixteen years ago, like you know, there are just keywords or something.
I don't know. I have no idea. I've looked into all of that
stuff, you know, and sort of like gone down the rabbit hole.
Actually, what you're saying now as well was one of the reasons why I
was a little bit nervous about speaking tonight, because I was thinking, well,
obviously everything went back to normal, I thought, but then I'm going
to speak to Nick, you know, and obviously just hoping that no one's
threatened by me saying that. Do you know what I mean? Like there
was too long ago? Now, Yeah, it is a while ago,
and yeah, I mean there's a few things to remember. I mean,
I've mentioned on the show before and actually recently on a released episode where I
was lecturing, I started to get this strange activity that was happening when I
was researching this staff. One of the times I was living in Cheltenham and
I was doing a lecture at wonder libraries, and at those kind of meetings
and lectures, you'd always have people that come that are interested, and then
you have people which seemed a bit out of place. They'd be quite smartly
dressed, you know, polished up shoes, very military type looking individuals.
But they didn't they didn't seem interested, you know, they just seemed to
be there. You know, they wasn't interacting or anything. And when it
finished, they left. Always never stuck around, which where a lot of
people did. They stopped and chatted and stuff, but these guys would always
leave. And I had a bike. I didn't have a time. I
had a bike and I was riding back to the other side of Cheltenham,
and I was aware it was quite late at night, and I was aware
I was being there was a car following me and where I was living that
it was a coldy sack. I enter it via like a like a like
a small alleyway and it comes out into this this coldy sack. So I
knew this car was following me. So all I did was I went through
the alleyway and then I circled back to the road and then came out again.
When I came out, the car stopped. He was He stopped on
the road and I pulled up alongside him, and he wound up his window
and drove off. So it was those little things. And then a short
time later on I had a load of case files from cases I was I
was working on. There was a couple of abductions in there, a lot
of a lot of UFO signs. I had numbers, I had people's addresses,
descriptions of all, you know, everything. So it wasn't on the
computer. It was all on these physical files. And I had gone up
to Northampton, I think it was. So I was out for a good
ten hours and when I came back past midnight, I had been broken into.
The window was smashed, all these case files were missing, they were
all taken. Nothing in the house was taken other than these files. So
I had like a TV and a VHS player, all that that was fine.
Nothing was disturbed, only these case files. So it's a lot of
things like that. And the phone. Yeah, I can totally relate to
the phone, the clickings, the voices on the phone. That all happened,
and you tend to go I wouldn't say mad, because I was aware
of what was happening. I was paranoid. I did eventually get You do
get very paranoid. You're constantly looking behind you. So then you've got to
say to yourself, well, you know, if I'm being followed. Generally,
the people that do this are very good at what they do. You
won't know them, you won't see them, you won't hear them, because
they're under cover. So then it begs the question is that either they weren't
very good at what they did, or they wanted you to know. Right,
So the helicopter being in front of you and being purely visible is because
they want you to know that they know so you can look at it.
It totally felt like yeah, yeah, so it's more more intimidation than anything
else. And it include even in the wooden in the field. You know,
she could have deliberately dropped the glasses so you would find them, so
you'd then know of what she was up to and see all the time,
there was still that plausible denial because, like I say, then if you
know, my missus immediately sort of looked online to see if you could get
those glasses, and you could, so there was nothing. It wasn't a
smoking gun that this was the intelligence services or anything, because it was like
that anyone could get those glasses, you know. So I've seen those glasses.
Yeah, they're very they're very handy for the paranoid types that one know
who's followen them, and or especially you know, even if even if you're
in some dangerous area, dangerous neighborhood, you know, to be aware of
who's behind you. So they're actually quite a good idea. So I know
they too exist them. Yeah, yeah, it's just the way she was
like, Oh, it's just you know, like I said, there was
another I mean, I can think of one more thing that like immediately,
there was a time when I was looking out the front and there was a
car with four men in it, and that they had a laptop open in
the car. I could see the kind of you know that they kind of
glow off the spring or whatever, and they were sitting there and they were
staring at the house. So I phoned my mate who lived over the road,
and I said, can you see these guys outside the house? You
know? And he said, oh yeah, yeah, yeah heah. Mate
said what's going on with them? And I said, I don't know,
but they looked because they all look kind of clean cut, you know,
and he didn't look like gangsters or whatever. They just they looked like,
you know, like they worked in an office or something. But they were
staring at the house and they had a laptop on. And I said to
him and said, okay, I'm going to go out and see these guys.
I'm going I need to go out and see what this is about.
And he said, yeah, yeah, he said, I'm looking out the
window. He said, just go out and see them. As soon as
they did that, they started the car and they drove off, and it
was like the timing was just I was like, you're listening to my phone
calls. Yeah. At that point, I was just paranoid enough to sort
of like go, no, that was two. They just immediately went,
oh, shut them laptop, and they just start the car up and they
drove and it just felt like they'd heard me say I'm going to go out
to you, and I'm going to go and see these guys. And these
guys weren't like the other guy, you know what I mean that these guys
were interested in me or whatever, but they they didn't look like they wanted
to mess with you, you know, they talk like they immediately just went
they've gone. I don't know. It was just and just another thing that
happened in those kind of three months. You know, it's just there,
you go, I don't know what else to say about it. So they
were just trying to find out exactly what you did see and then apply some
intimidation in there. What about Ricky? Did Ricky have anything like this happened?
So that was another sort of kind of weird thing in a way about
it. He said he didn't really, He said like he just didn't really
have anything that he could think of that had made him think that he was
under observation. So he just yeah, you can't say that he did because
he just he kind of didn't, you know. So yeah, that was
that as far as he was concerned. He's kind of like it was behind
him, and you know, say we carried on going out and all the
time we would we were still going out and sitting in fields and stuff,
you know, with more kind of reverence in a way. But he never
bought it anything weird like that. He was driving the car, it was
me driving the car, So it was your car, it was my car.
Yeah, that might be why then because you know you did you did
see a police officer in your chol car. Yeah, yeah, So isn't
that you could go mental? Couldn't because you could think maybe those coppers actually
knew exactly what was going on. So you just don't know, dear,
you just don't know. You don't know. But when you were in the
field, now the actual location, I might get you to draw a little
map if you can where all this, okay, well has happened. I'm
kind of thinking it happened between the barracks and Lawnton, in the fields between.
That's right, is it? Yes, exactly where it was. Yeah,
there's like Farmers Fields basically. If you if you're looking at the maps,
you know, and you sort of followed that ring road round anti clockwise,
then as you come round to the right hand side, you'll just see
a load of fields, or at least it used to be. I haven't
been there for a long time, but it used to be just kind of
Farmers Field, and then the next village along would be Launton. There would
be in between those places, Jean, Yeah, and I'm guessing that there
is this big house and estate, so that was wretched hick way that would
have been that ring road. That whole area on the left hand side you
wasn't built up. Was that field as well? No, that's Langford Village.
Oh so that is okay, so that was there then then okay,
that was there, but it wasn't. But it's been built up over the
years. There wasn't as many houses as I think there is now, so
it's kind of I know, over the last kind of ten years it has
built up quite a bit round there. There's more industrial units and stuff than
there used to be. But but yeah, it was off to the right
hand side, okay, Yeah, because I can see two farms on there,
one that would have been just off the ring road, and then there
are several quite a lot of fields, and then you got that you have
Launton just north of there. If you were looking at the roundabout where the
base is, there's two roundabouts going anti clockwise from there, and it was
basically just past the second roundabout and then literally like you know, twenty yards
ahead of that roundabout. That's where I parked and then went off into the
fields to the right of the Yeah, that's that's pretty much where I picture
of you. I've even got a little lane way which I think you were
talking about wonderful yarking. And Okay, so you saw the light, the
light came down into the field. Did these twelve or fifteen guys in the
hazmats were they coming away from the object or going towards the object? They
were coming away, but they were in our field, so it was like
we hadn't actually got into the field where where the UFO was. We were
walking towards the hedgerow that was in between us and the UFO, and they
were on this side of the hedge. Now that's that again is a little
bit strange because like we went back there during the day and it actually looks
like I don't know how they would have got through through the hedge. So,
yeah, it's a bit The whole thing was a bit strange, very
strange, indeed. And you said about the size of the object was about
the size of your fist an't stretched. Yeah, And then like so looking
at it, like obviously it was a distance away and through another hedgerow,
but I could have easily believed if someone had said to me that was thirty
foot in diameter, that would sound about right. But it was just a
white light. You couldn't see any pails. You couldn't see a craft.
It was a white It was a star. Did you get what I'm saying?
Sort of thing it was. It was it was like looking at a
star, but just a big one, you know, yeah, nothing other
than that really. So it's like if you know when you see like satellites
go across the sky end like it kind of like I assumed if it was
at height it would have looked like one of them. It was just the
fact that it was right down here that it looked like, you know,
the size of a bus or whatever, which is like, but I'm sure
if it was up right up high in the sky, it would have just
looked like a satellite. And the lighted self. What color was it?
It was just white, I say, exactly the same as as a as
a white star. It was. It was like white light and it was
it wasn't blinding you could look at it, but it but it was right,
you know. It was like I'd never really got an opportunity to just
stare stare at it except the best view I got a bit was kind of
when it was just overtaking the car, when it was heading off towards the
field as it was coming down. At that point, I did kind of
like stare at it for a while as it was driving. But again,
there was no difference from it when it was behind us and when it was
in front it was it looked like a staff and behind you look like staff
and fun or whatever the barishment heading. It's sort of like there was just
no details to other than it just being a bright white light and there was
no pulsating, no flashing of light or anything like that, just like a
static light. It was. It was, Yeah, it was just like
a solid white light. Yeah. There was no kind of there's no aircraft
light on it, you know, or anything like that, And it didn't
seem to be more or right, and it just it's they exactly the same
time, even when I'm assuming that some of it's a bit of assumption,
But even when it was on the ground, it still was glowing. So,
like I just it kind of gave the impression that it was exactly the
same brightness even when it was sitting on the ground as when it was in
the air. And when it had come down to the field, was it
illuminating the surroundings. Yeah, and you think it's possible that that these these
individuals had come from the subject. Well, I can't. I can't say
for certain. All I can say is that they were in this field when
this thing came down and we went into that field. You know, I
didn't see them get out of that light. I didn't see them go back
to it. They were just we will start walking towards the hedgerow where we
were going to be able to see the like absolutely directly through the hedge.
And as we ventured towards the middle of the field, they were coming from
that headrow, walking towards like you know, kind of towards us, if
you like, across the field. But I never actually saw them like get
out of the craft. But like I said, like as you can see,
like you know, they are typical farmers fields and stuff. The only
other option would be that those twelve fifteen guys were already in that field and
they knew that thing was coming down. That's the only other option that I
can think of. But they had some connection to that white line. They
they weren't farmers, and they weren't they weren't a crime investigation unit or anything
like that, you know, the way that they so I forgot to mention
that when I talked to Rickie about what happened about the guy's face, exactly
the same thing happened to Ricky as well. So Rickie had this the exact
same experience. The guy was nose to nose with him and told him to
get out of the field, and he had the same dread and everything.
So the guy did it to both of us simultaneously. They weren't farmers,
you know. Yeah, I was going to ask you if Ricky had the
same thing happened, because you were both out of there pretty quickly. You
high tailed it. Yeah, I didn't realize, sorry after I must have
missed it at the time. But yeah, the reason why Ricky was pacing
that he wasn't because he was chasing me out of the field. He wasn't.
He wasn't running because I was running. He was running because he had
exactly the same experience. See that's an unusual one, isn't it. So
how far what kind of distance would you have said you and Ricky were away
from these individuals at that point? I say, you know, a hundred
yards, okay, a hundred yards less less than half a field away.
You know, it's very strange and that you know, Ricky. Ricky points,
this guy turns around, stare straight at you two, and then you
both see like a projection. Would you said, look maybe like a projectually
saw you saw his face ryan in front of yours. Yeah, it could
have. It could have been. You know, I couldn't have told you
the difference between it being a projection and him actually being there. But it
was like he was you know, my nose was like touching his visor.
It was like that. And it wasn't. I didn't project forwards. It
was like he was s stood there. And I say, it could have
been in my mind, it could it could have been physical. I couldn't
have told you the difference, you know, like it was somehow he managed
to sort of like bomb eye to eye with me, like he was giving
my face you know. So I don't know, Yeah, it wasn't.
It annoyed me because like, well I amn't really interested in the subject,
and like I would like to have had a like a nicer experience, but
like it wasn't the nicest experience. So you know, I said, I've
had other experience as well. I'm better than but like, but this would
have it would have been nice. If this actual all kind of like in
this absolute well you know, nor encounter, it would have been nice,
nice guys and blonde hair saying hi. But it wasn't. It was kind
of like fairly aggressive encounter. Yeah, it's because you stumbled upon something,
something going on, and when this guy turned around looked at you, guys,
you had his face in your face. You were overcome with fear.
Yeah. I felt fear before, you know, like been nervous and stuff,
and this was just it was kind of like it was amplified. It
definitely felt external, like he he made me feel like that. It was
horrible. It was really horrible. And I've heard of the of, you
know, people having these feelings before, but these feelings tend to be projected
by some kind of instrument or equipment of some sort. So right, you
know, but this guy was just able to do it just by looking at
you too. I mean it's I mean because they were wearing these suits,
you know, like I don't know whether maybe he had something on his suits
us. You know, he may well put his hand up to something,
but I just I didn't see it myself. But like all of my experience
was that it felt like he was doing it from his mind, you know
that he was just like from me, was in my face, and I
got the telepathic agard where he told all I heard him, So it wasn't
the slight difference was in my head I heard, But it wasn't just the
words that obviously, it was the feeling that made me turn and run of
Ricky heard go away, and I questioned him about that. Is that what
you heard? Because I say, because I heard him actually swear at me,
and he said no, because he just said go away. But he
said it was really many things. And I thought, oh, that's interesting,
because I think then what it was was that that like it was like,
it's not what he projected verbally, it was like our interpretation of something
that was projected at us. And I think so Ricky obviously interpreted he's telepathic,
if you like, just it was the same meaning that for different words,
you know, whereas mine just felt more aggressive. So I don't I
think he actually swore or at me. I think it was just that That's
how my mind was kind of like interfectly interesting. And you said you went
back to the site. Was that the next day or the following week,
No, we we went. So we went back a couple of times.
So let's tell you an interest in still a side story. One of my
friends, he was interested in what happened, and we went back there.
And when we went back there, this was about three weeks later, we
saw another light and it came and then it just stopped and then it went
and we was like, okay, cool, you know, that's nothing else
interesting happened about from this weird light. They say it did just come over
race like strange and stopped dead, and then we sort of felt a bit
spooped out, and then it just went back to the way it came from.
So, but my friend was taking photos and in one of the photos
there's orange lights in the sky just behind our heads and they definitely weren't there
at the time took the photos, like there was just another one of those
kind of just strange anomalies of things that happened when you go out, you
know, doing style watching and stuff. But there were three orange lights that
were in the sky and they're quite bright, but they didn't they weren't there
when we were stood there. They just came out on the photo, you
know, like orbs or something. I don't know, but really prominent.
You know, it's strange, but yeah, just one of those strange things.
You know, you need to really get a Geiger counter take up any
traces of anything was picked up because I mean they were wearing hazmat suits.
That's what they look like. Yeah, I couldn't say for sure that's exactly
what they were, but that's what they looked like. You know. You
know, if you see you know, a classic picture of guys in hazmat
suits, that's that's what they look like. They weren't particularly great fitting or
anything. They were wearing them just like people wear hazmat suits, you know,
where they designed to fit all. You know, there's a big part
of me that people if someone said to me, oh, you know,
what were they aliens, I'm like, I can't tell you. They were
wearing some kind of suit. It was there to protect them. Sounds was
against something. I mean, it seems a likely place for him to be
doing any kind of you know, military testing or anything like that. You
know, with the hazmats and the like. You know, you can say
it was some kind of military exercise or something, but that the guy turning
around and you're getting these weird vibes, and then all the stuff which happened
after with the helicopters in the phone and all that. You know, that's
kind of something which doesn't happen if it's just a military exercise of sorts.
So you know, you've you've definitely experienced something. You know. Obviously we
can't have conclusions and say it was aliens and act, but something definitely did
happen to you and Ricky that that night. Yeah, And I just I
think, like I just don't know whether it was meant to come down.
That's the sort of feeling I had. Was it was. It was like
it's just like, you know, we stumbled into an accident or something,
you know, like I don't know, the whole thing just felt dangerous and
like as if it like they weren't meant to be there. We weren't meant
to be there one no one was meant to be there, and but there
we were, you know, and it was just almost like a feeling of
kind of I don't know, I can't say, I can't that's how they
felt or anything. That was almost like a kind of you know, kind
of embarrassing thing where everyone's like, oh, sorry, you saw this.
You know, you shouldn't be here, and that's going, Yeah, we're
sorry, we're here. Could they just knocked on your door say here,
listen, sorry about the other night. You know, you know you weren't
supposed to see that, so, you know, if you can, need
to keep quiet. But did you hear anything about this? You know,
did you was there any anybody mentioning things that they'd seen or some weird activity
in the field, or was it just from the moment it happened, that
was it? You didn't hear anything about it? Yeah, and not that
I know of, you know, nothing came back our way. And like,
I'll be honest with you, I'm not really a local paper reader or
anything. I didn't hear anything. No one, you know, no one
spoke to me about it or wasn't really big on the internet or anything like
that at the time. I'm not. I've never really been a particularly technically
orientated person and not really interested. So I've only had a smartphone for about,
you know, two years, so it just I've kind of avoided it
if we can, and I've avoided the internet. Well, be honest with
you and to our listeners, you know, if anyone lives in the area
around Oxford, and you may have witnessed or heard about something happened just like
what Dave said. You know, let us know. In fact, maybe
you were one of the people that were harassing Dave, following him and you're
no longer with that agency anymore. Maybe you know, get in contact.
We'd like to know what you you know, your deal was there. Did
you ever reported Dave at all, report it to the police or anything.
Not so much the police, so I like move on or like a UFO
supporting center. Yes, I spoke to Dave Hojan, you know Dave Hojan
from a Birmingham UFO group. I do indeed, Yeah, I'm a friend
of him on Facebook. Yeah, yeah, I've spoke to him like a
few times about different things that we sort of kept in contact for a while,
and he was he came to see my band play a few times and
I think he's in two of the music videos as well the band, so
you know, we sort of became friends for a while. He's a good
guy. But yeah, he knew all about it. He did a case
thing on it, you know. Oh that good. What I do is
our link to that as well with in the show notes. Good stuff.
That was interesting, Dave. I'm not gonna lie. Thanks mate, nice
one. We'll keep up with good work mate, and I'll just I'll go
you what's up now? So I'll message every now and then say you doing
yeah, no problem? Yeah, cause like I said, keep in contact.
All right, Dave, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for
our listeners. Thanks mate, Yeah, I'll see you soon, no worries,
take care, Dave, all right, and I will talk to you
soon. Bye mate, Bye bye for now. That is all for this
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