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In the way. P. Seventeen, Do you want to report a UFO

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thanking him? We don't want to
report every thirty one Do you wish to

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report a UFO hob and we weren't
for one of those every thirty one?

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Do you wish to find a report
of any kind of him? I wouldn't

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know what kind of rey was cloud
n every thirty one me neither, There

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said one pup of golf, good
it was above us to pass us?

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Like thirty seconds ago, were said
one pup of golf thinking it okay off

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a UFO yeah and nine aloud,
Yes, I'll get passed over by God.

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I don't know what it was,
but it's from at least two three

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thousand feet above us, So I
passed right over the top of us ninety

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one one? Do we just called
off to be before? They're after standing

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airplane and it is actually hear?
I swear to God in unidentified on jec

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ever liberty more calm unidentified flying on
Jack All right, Welcome to UFO Chronicles,

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you've had an encounter, I would
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welcome to the show. I hope
you're all doing okay, and a happy

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Independence Day to all our American friends
for this coming Tuesday. Tonight's guest is

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David in South Wales with a strange
encounter in two thousand and seven in a

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field in Oxfordshire and the events that
follow sprinkled more high strangeness to the incident.

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David up next. If you enjoy
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the show, Hello, Dave,
Welcome to the show. Hi mate,

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thank you for joining us today.
And you were calling from South Wales.

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Yeah that's right, Yeah, just
as stones throw away from me, that

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is Dave. Now, Dave,
you have an experience to share from two

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thousand and seven. Would you like
to start at the beginning, please,

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sir? Yeah, okay, well
yeah, I'll start right at the beginning

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of this episode, if you like. I was working at a I was

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working as a driver for an old
American airbase. Basically there was being used

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to store cars. And while I
was working there, I met a guy

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called Ricky, and it was a
really cool guy and we hit it off

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immediately, and then we saw quite
soon discovered that we both had a similar

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interest in things like UFOs and esoteric
subjects and meditation stuff like that. So

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neither of us were into drinking and
stuff. So we decided that like for

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fun, we would start going out
and just doing like basically skywatches. So

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we started quite regularly going to this
place called Brill Hill, which in Oxfordshire

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is like kind of one of the
highest points. And we've got up there

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and we had like a these little
fishing bags that sort of doubled up as

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chairs and stuff, and we'd take
flasks with us and stuff, and we'd

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sit there and sort of like chat
and meditate and stuff and SkyWatch and most

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of the time, like nothing ever
really happened. We did see a couple

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of weird lights occasionally, and it
was all just kind of good, relaxing

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fund basically. So what happened to
us starts one night basically where we'd been

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up Brill Hill and we sat there
and again it was a non eventful night,

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but we were there until about quarter
to eleven and then we decided to

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come home, so we got in
the car I was driving. Were so

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we're driving back to Bistera and the
road picks up the Ellsbury Road and then

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it brings you to aroundabout which the
graven Hill Military Distribution Base is on,

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which is on the outskirts of Bister. We picked up the Ring Road going

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anti clockwise around Bister and literally as
we got onto that dual carriageway I noticed

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immediately as we turned onto that road
that there was a massive white light that

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was it's hard to judge a distance
because it was never seen anything like it

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before and it had There was nothing
I could see other than this this big

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white light that was I think to
say, would be about the size of

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your fist at an arm's length,
but shining like a star. It basically

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it was it just looked like a
star had come down and was huge,

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you know. So I wound down
the window. Rick Us is obviously in

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the passenger seat, and he's like
leaning in front of me and getting a

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look at this thing. We've got
the window down and we can hear that

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there is nothing to be heard at
this point. I slowed the car right

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down as well. And there was
about eleven o'clock at night. There was

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no traffic on the road or anything. It was pretty quiet. It was

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like a Tuesday night and we're crawling
along and we're watching this UFO and it's

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basically it kind of overtakes us,
but it's not going very fast. I

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mean, I would say that we
were probably going about thirty miles an hour,

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and it was just kind of gently
overtaking us. And at the same

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time, it was losing altitude.
It was like dropping down, like I

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said, like a feather. It
would just kind of go along and then

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all of a sudden like droop down
and then go along and then just like

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drooped down again. And I kind
of sensed that like that. It was

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almost like it was in distress.
It was like as if it was coming

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down. But it shouldn't have been
that kind of feeling. I don't know,

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I can't confirm that, but it's
just how it felt to us.

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So so basically I came up against
another roundabout. We went round that roundabout,

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carried on the dual carriageway. It
was still there in the sky,

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but very low at this point,
you know, and we're literally just looking

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up look above the tree tops,
and it was just like a nice line

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of sight there. And I would
say it was, you know, it

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may have been five hundred to a
thousand yards away from us. So we

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carried on going. We could just
like kind of follow in it, you

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know, and it keeps going down
and then it goes down behind the tree

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line, but you can still see
it. It's like shining, you know,

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shining, but you can see it
through the trees. And we carried

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on. We would go over the
next roundabout, and then it seems I

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pulled up. As soon as we
got past the next roundabout, we put

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we stopped the car and we just
sat there with the window down, just

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hid. Basically had gone into a
kind of hyper state of awareness. I

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wouldn't say it was like a like
an odd factor or anything, but it

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was just it just seem something that
you you haven't seen before, and you

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know, you just kind of like
absolutely alert. My mind was absolutely empty,

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if you like. And I was
just watching and we could sense,

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even though we couldn't see it directly
at that point, but it seemed to

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have stopped. It wasn't the light
that shine from, it wasn't moving it.

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It seemed to have settled. And
I knew that it kind of settled

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in the field the rough tor right. So we sat there and we was

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like, what we're going to do, because the thing is, we were

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into UFOs, you know, we
were going out skywatching. We were interested

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in the subject, and all of
suddenly it got very real and it was

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like it was like a moment of
well, if we drive away now,

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might as well just give up all
interesting UFOs because here's a UFO that has

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come down. And it's like if
you're not brave enough to go and have

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a look at what's going on,
then like just you might as well just

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forget the whole subject. So I
sort of looked at Ricky and he said,

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they've looked over the road, and
right opposite over the road was one

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of these little foot styles, you
know, like a public footpath sign and

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we were like, okay, right
that you know, the universe, if

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you like, is telling us,
you know, we are going into that

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field. So so part of the
car properly and we got out and we

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went across the road and we went
over the style and then when we got

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over there, it didn't take you
immediately into the field. There was like

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a little lane that we kind of
walked up for about fifty yards and then

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it turned left and then we went
over another style into the first field.

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So we got into that field and
it was it was kind of weird,

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but there was there was like a
mist on the floor and we could see

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then that the the UFO it wasn't
in that field. It was in the

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next field along and there was another
line of trees and a kind of hedgerow,

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and you could quite clearly see that
it was on the other side of

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that in that field. You know, you could kind of just about see

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it directly. But at that point, so we must submit it. Like

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what happened was was that we sid
we kind of felt like brave for having

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done what we've done, because everyone
sort of tells themselves, oh yeah,

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if aliens landed, I'd go up
and say hello and stuff. Like this,

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but be honestly, there was a
kind of air of danger about the

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whole thing, and there had no
idea what awaited us or anything. So

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we I was discussed it with Rick
and I said, look, regularly,

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you know, let's let's just hang
here and have a fag, all right,

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Let's just wait and see what happens. Because I said, if it

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takes off, I said, that'd
be brilliant when we'll see it. We'll

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see it take off, and you
know, that would be an amazing story.

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Said if it doesn't, which means
it's still going to be there,

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but it still will be there in
ten minutes time, and we can then

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go over to the next hedgerow we
get eyes on it properly, and then

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we can make our minds up about
what the next step is. But let's

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just just just take it easy,
you know what I mean. It's just,

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you know, I had a wife
and kids, and I honestly genuinely

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felt like, you know, like
it was out of our comfort zone,

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if you like. So we stood
there and when we rolled see that's what

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we did. You know, I
still rolled backing out sort of like we

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rolled cigis, and we stood there
and we just chatted, and all the

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time I had eyes on the glow
that was coming from the next field.

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And it was really weird because there
we were in this situation where it's just

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it's everything we've kind of like talked
about and stuff, and and it was

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happening, and we just had this
kind of ten minute into the where we

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just kind of enjoyed the moment that
we were about to go and see a

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UFO. We're about to go and
see it properly, and who knows what

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we're going to do. If if
we can get through that hedge and we

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can get into the next field,
then maybe we were going to go up

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to it, you know whatever.
We just we didn't know what was a

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behead of us. So we kind
of like had that last cigarette if you

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like, you know, and then
so we put the cigarettes out and then

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we said, right, okay,
So I said to them, let's walk

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out to the middle of the field
and then we'll we'll go up to the

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hedgerow and we'll have a look and
then that's and then we'll take it from

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there. So we started walking and
this is when things got really were really

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weird. So we started walking and
I say we were both sober, you

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know this like this, It was
just we were in a normal state of

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consciousness, nervous and hyper vigilant.
But that was it. So we started

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walking out into the middle of the
field. We got no more than like

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twenty yards out from where we were
stood, where all of a sudden,

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I and Ricky at the same time. But although we didn't really speak to

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each other because it happened really quickly
and like we didn't have time, we

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were both basically assumed very wide eyed
and silent. But I saw between the

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twelve and fifteen guys coming the other
way, and they weren't coming straight towards

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us, because we were still off
to the right hand side of the field

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a bit. They were walking as
if they were walking straight from the hedge

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and coming out towards the middle of
the field, and we, like I

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say, we were slightly off to
the right hand side of the field.

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Like looking at them now, I
didn't count them. I just wasn't.

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I didn't have time to do any
of that. And at the time I

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didn't have a smartphone or anything.
I had a ten pound phone. I

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could make techs off. Thus about
it, I don't think it would have

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I don't think I would have taken
a picture anyway. I don't think it

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just wasn't it just wouldn't have been
appropriate or whatever. At the time it

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was, it was like concerned from
everyone's safety. Basically, Now these guys

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they looked like people wearing hazmat suits. So if you know, like that

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kind of you know when you see
the films and stuff and they've got the

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kind of clear visor. It was
a white hood kind of coming down and

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it just like covers the whole body
as if you know, like they're in

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a you know, hazmat suit.
Basically, they all had them on.

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They were walking like shoulders and shoulder
but not in a like a uniformed way

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like it was. It quite it
looked casual, you know, like there

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was two of them and then like
three of them, and then one and

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then another two. You know,
they were kind of like just as if

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like friends are walking along the street
together or whatever. But but they were

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in a like a like a flat
line and they were walking across the f

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or now just watching them. To
say, this all happened very quickly.

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I think that it would happened at
exactly the same time that Ricky put his

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hand up and pointed at them.
I think he said anything to me,

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but he put his hand up and
he pointed at them. I think it

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was almost like an involuntary thing,
that he was just looking and just put

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his pointed a finger at them.
Now at that exact time, one of

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them turned around and looked at me. Now when when he looked at me

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at that moment, his face,
I'd say they were probably at at least

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a hundred yards away from us in
the field, and his face was it

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was like he was nose to nose
with me. I can't describe it.

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I don't know how he happened.
I don't know. I don't feel like

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he projected physically over to me.
But it was like he turned, he

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looked at me, and he looked
me in the eye, and then he

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was like a nose to nose and
I could see his face really clearly,

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and he looked human, but but
not it was so that I think the

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visor had a color on it,
so that because he had a kind of

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bluish green tint to his face.
But I think it was the whole visor.

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I don't think it was necessarily I
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I think the whole visor had that
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could I could see obviously through the
visor into his face, and he had

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eyes and eyebrows and nose and the
mouth and like cheese bones, just like

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a person. But there was something
about the way it was all put together

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that just like didn't quite look human. But if I describe him, i'd

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have to just you know, he
had eye that and pupils and you know,

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all the rest of it, exactly
like a human being. But there

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was something about the angles that just
the way that it knows was and stuff

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that made him look almost a little
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That he came across as I would
say, they were looked about six

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foot tall. They looked the same
sort of build as us. And at

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the same time that he was in
my face, I felt dread and I

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felt that like, even though I
think it would have been justified to have

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felt that dread, I felt like
he gave me that dread, that he

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was projecting that fear into me,
like it just felt external. But I

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couldn't control it. I couldn't do
anything about it. I'm not an easily

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I wouldn't consider myself to be an
easily scared person. You know. I

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was in the Army and I worked
on doors and there was a boxer and

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stuff, and not generally an easily
panics person. But I couldn't do anything

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about it. I felt my stomach
go and I wanted to get away from

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that feeling like nothing else, and
he projected a thought in my head.

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I don't know if I should swear, but it basically I heard him tell

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me to f off, and I
turned and I ran, And I hate

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to say it, but I didn't
even look for Ricky. I just turned

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and I ran, and I couldn't
stop myself. I had to get away

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from what he was giving me.
I had to get away from it.

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And I turned and I like just
ran as fast as I could back towards

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the fence. As it happened,
Ricky was literally placing me. He was

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just off to my right, and
I basically got to the fence and I

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never even looked back. I felt
like I was running for my life.

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That's how it felt. It felt
like if I turned around that I was

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dead. So I carried on running
and went straight over the fence, went

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straight down the lane. At that
point, I think I became aware that

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Ricky was with me. I could
hear him next to me, sort of

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thing. I still haven't said anything
to each other, but we were both

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basically running when over the next stiletto
the road went straight across the road like

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just got in the car without saying
anything, started the car up and started

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driving. Now there's a little side
note. As I started driving away,

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police car came the other way,
and I remember, like when I got

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home, thinking, car, those
coppers, like they're driving around at like,

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you know, half past eleven on
a Tuesday night, thinking there's nothing

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going on around here tonight. It's
boring. I was thinking if they only

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knew like what they'd driven past.
But they didn't even seem to look at

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us, you know, like two
sort of youngish guys in the car,

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you know. And I don't think
we were speeding or anything, but we

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if they'd seen our faces, I'm
pretty sure we would have looked like we've

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just been through something and like.
But they didn't like even give us any

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attention. They just drove past,
and you know, and they carried on.

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So basically we carry on driving.
When I got to the next round

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about I sort of started to think
about looking over and shoulder, but I

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couldn't see anything, couldn't see any
light, couldn't see any glow of a

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light or anything. So basically drove
straight back to my house. I had

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another tea and a fag with Ricky
and we were just we were just in

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this funny place like you were just
like looking at each other, like you

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know, did that happen? That? It did happen and there was nothing

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to be done about it. It
was like it was over, and like

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basically then I dropped him home.
I went home and went to bed because

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I had to go to work next
day. So you know, the next

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day I saw Rickie at work and
he was like he was because he was

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a plater on the cards, so
I wouldn't see him all day long.

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I just see him periodically and we
were just like, you know, that

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was a bit mad what happened last
night? And he was like, yep,

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he's not mad. Of many words, Ricky. It was just like

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yep, that was pretty mad,
and you know, we carried on like

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we're still friends now. We unfortunately
he still lives in England and I live

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in Wales, so we don't get
to see each other very often, maybe

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once or twice a year at best. We still talk about it because we're

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the only two people in the world
that know that it happened. We tried

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to tell other people about it initially, and what we found was was that

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hardly anyone was interested, Like people
just weren't interested at all. They weren't

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really paying us any attention. We
sort of thought, isn't it the most

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amazing thing you've ever heard? And
people would be like, oh, I

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don't know, and it was like
I thought, they either don't believe us,

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or they just don't understand what we're
saying. We saw, you know.

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So So anyway, the next few
months, I had a couple of

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like strange things happen, which I
would say, we you know, we

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never told anybody or mattered as far
as I could see. But it all

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started when I came back to my
house and we just popped out, me

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and more wives than the kids.
We came back and our front door was

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wide open, and I thought,
Okay, we had never done that before,

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you know, when inside check,
there was nothing hadn't obviously been broken

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into. And we lived in a
close where we kind of knew all the

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neighbors pretty well. Everyone kind of
over saw everybody and there was nothing untoward

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and that so the next day we
came back and the front door was open

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again. It was just and it
was wide open, like it was just.

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It happened three times that week,
and I genuinely started to sort of

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think there was something odd about it. So there was the following week after

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that happened. I was in the
kitchen, which was at the front of

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the house, and it had like
a window over the sink, just looking

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out over the coach, like you
know I do, and I got up.

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I had been sat down for a
while and I got up. Another

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guy up. I realized there was
a car parked out the front of my

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house, and it was quite a
nice car. I don't exactly what it

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was, it was, you know, it was it was it was a

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newish car. And there was a
guy sitting inside the car and he was

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staring at the house, and I
thought that he's a bit odd. So

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I just stood there and I was
just watched him and he was just staring.

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So then he got out the car
and I thought, what's this Because

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he got out of the car and
he looked like military. He looked fit

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and lean, and he looked like
like he could hurt people. And he

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just stared. He just stared at
me through the window. Casually pulled a

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camera up and took a photo.
Now I was in a place where I

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was just stood there, and I
thought, I'm not engaging this guy.

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I'm not going to go out of
the house. There was something menacing about

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him. And he very slowly,
whilst not taking his eyes off me,

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got back into the car slowly and
then just drove away slowly, as if

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he was saying, I'm not intimidated
by you, and you know I'm letting

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you see me. And I didn't
have enemies. I didn't, you know,

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there was no reason, for other
reason that I could be the case.

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And I just thought to myself,
what's going on here? And then

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literally about three days later, I'm
cooking dinner from my kids and we had

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a house phone. It was one
of those cordless ones, and my wife's

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mum phoned, Well, my wife
wasn't there, and I was literally a

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dishing up dinner, and I put
the phone into the cookoman neck, you

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know, like you do to listen
to someone talking when you haven't got your

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hands free. And I was just
like taking the stuff off the harbor that

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and she all she said was like, you know, oh it's hazy there.

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And I said, no, she's
not here at the moment, okay,

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and she and she said, okay, nowherese put the phone down.

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Now I didn't. I was holding
the phone in the cookman neck and I

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didn't have my hands free. Look
say so, I didn't turn the phone

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off. And I heard someone as
clear as day on the line say no,

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he didn't say anything, and I
went sorry, And as I said

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that, the phone clicked and there
was no one there. And I was

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just thinking, I think, what's
this about? Because I'm nobody. No

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one's interested in what happened to me. You know. It was like,

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not would it matter if I went
to the papers or anything. It would

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just be another UFO story from someone
with no credentials. I just couldn't see

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what the issue was, but it
carried on happening. I went into the

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park. At the time, we
were fostering dogs, as in, we

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were like a halfway home for dogs
that were being really helped. The dogs

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would come and live with us for
a few months and we'd look after and

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while families were coming and they come
and visit them and if they've taken away.

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So I was taking dogs for a
walk over in a local park from

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us and as I walked into the
park, there was a woman in the

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park and she was i'd say she
was thirty thirty five, and she was

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attractive, dark hair. She's sitting
with it like a jacket on. But

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she she was staring at me.
And immediately like at this point, I'm

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I'm already getting a little bit paranoid. I'm walking around a little bit sort

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of, you know, I'm noticing
things. And I stared back at her,

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and then she looked away, and
of course, because it was because

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it was a woman, I was
really like trying to obviously didn't want to

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intimidate her or anything, but at
the same time I felt that she was

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she was staring at me, you
know, she was so So I got

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a dog and I'm just I'm throwing
a stick for the dog and stuff,

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and he's running picking up and then
I look up at every time, every

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now and then I'm just looking up, and she's on her own in this

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park where most people are walking dogs, all got kids, but she's just

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on her own and all she's every
time I look up, she's she's looking

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at me. And then when I
look at her, she looks away.

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But she's not going anywhere. She's
just like take a few steps off and

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then stop, you know. And
she pulled out these glasses, so she

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puts on a pair of these sunglasses, and she's got her back to me,

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and she's like staring at the fence. Right, there's like these a

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dispenses that are on the back of
other people's gardens that surround the park.

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And I'm thinking, everything about this
woman is wrong, right, So that

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the dog came up to me and
I put the chain on him, and

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I just started walking towards her.
And I thought, I'm just going to

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walk towards her and just stay hi
to see if I can get anything out

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of this, you know what I
mean. I can't see from where I

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am. The moment I started walking
towards her, she took these glasses off,

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put them in her coat. She
had like a like the weather the

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side hand bit would go, you
know, and she just walked hurriedly out

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the park on the opposite entrance.
I carried on walking towards her. Now

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she walked out of the park,
these glasses dropped out of her pocket.

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So I carried on walking. And
when I got there, I thought,

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right, I'm not going to follow
her out of the park, you know,

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like like I'm not just in case
I'm mistaken and all this kind of

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thing, you know, and like, you know, she might be being

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intimidated by me, And I thought, fair enough, And I'm not not

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chasing her down or anything. I
just wanted to see what was going on

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with her. So I picked these
glasses up. Now, these glasses are

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a pair of sunglasses which I later
found out you can buy on the internet

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and stuff. They had no insignia
on them, no marks of like you

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know of companies, but they had
mirrors inside. So when she was had

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her back to me and she was
just staring supposedly at the fence, she

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was actually watching me. And it
looks like when you put them on,

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it was like having mirrors and you
could look and you could see behind you.

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And I've never seen anything like it
before. By the say, I

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found out that apparently it is something
that you can buy and people do or

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whatever for riding bikes sometimes. But
so I kept them at the house.

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Obviously, it just took my home
and put them in the house. And

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I told a few people about it, and then came back to the house.

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The door was unlocked. It's like
it's just not stopping. Went in

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and the glasses had gone. But
that was the only thing that had gone,

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the glasses where they were on the
side. You know, there was

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nobody else that I know would break
into my house. You still glasses or

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anything. You know, It's like
they someone came in my house and took

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Listen now wherever you get your podcasts, right. So I had helicopters that

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were just sitting over the house with
their noses pointed towards the house and they've

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had that before. And then I
had a funny train ride where I took

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a train to high Wickham to see
a friend of mine. For the whole

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journey there was a black helicopter.
And again it's I think at this point

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it's hard to know whether I'm being
paran or what's going on, or whether

410
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.559
it's been done on purpose, because
the surveillance all I could say it was

411
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.359
completely overt. I mean, no
one was hiding what they were doing.

412
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.920
It was as if it wanted me
to see them. But like, there

413
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.960
was a black helicopter that basically,
and this is insane, it just paced

414
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:21.279
the carriage that I was sitting in
and I'm sitting off to the right hand

415
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:25.480
side by the window, and it
just sat out of the window. And

416
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:30.480
when we'd stop at a station,
it would go up and it would circle,

417
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:32.680
and then when we would carry on
going, it would come back down

418
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.720
and do it again. And it
was one of these old like little two

419
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:43.039
seat helicopters with like the bubble shield
front, and it had two guys in

420
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.480
it wearing all black with the black
visors that you see, you know,

421
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:51.400
to come down over the face and
made them look like insects, and they

422
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:55.759
basically were just staring at me.
I was saying to other people in the

423
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:59.559
carriage, didn't anyone see this?
And they were going, oh, yeah,

424
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.480
they didn't seem that interested. Again, it was strange, like it

425
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:07.440
was only me that seemed bothered about
it. But they were staring at me.

426
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:09.079
For what I could you know,
I know, they had black visors

427
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.359
on and stuff. You know,
he could feel someone staringly. They were

428
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:15.680
staring at me, and they were
so low they would fly away when it

429
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.319
was over the fields and stuff.
They were just flying almost parallel with the

430
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.640
train, like you know, probably
only maybe two hundred feet above it in

431
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.720
reality, I don't know, and
staring at and I could see them.

432
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:28.960
They were that close. I could
just see them, you know, every

433
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.960
detail, and they would just stare
and like, yeah, it was.

434
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.920
It was bizarre. And then after
a couple of months, like I said,

435
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.160
there was a number of things that
happened, but they're the main things

436
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:45.200
that stick out in my mind.
It just died off. And I have

437
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.920
to assume that, like, obviously, if this thing happened to us,

438
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.160
so I assume it happens to a
lot of people. I assume that these

439
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.559
things happened to a lot of people, and like maybe it was just after

440
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.319
a couple of months, I wasn't
interesting anymore, and someone else was,

441
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.079
you know, and something else was
going on to somebody else. But like

442
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:12.000
it just kind of stopped. But
it was enough for me to, like

443
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.559
in my own life to turn around
and say, how I just I just

444
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.960
wanted to stop. I even like
would pick up the phone and like and

445
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:22.800
just say to the deadline, you
know, just say, look, if

446
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.960
you want to talk to me,
just talk to me, but just stop

447
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.360
doing all this stuff. You know, Like whatever you want to know,

448
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.920
I'll tell you. I'm not your
enemy. I'm not against you or anything.

449
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.039
If if you want to know something
about what I know about it,

450
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.679
just just ask me. And there's
nothing there's nothing I wouldn't tell you,

451
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.800
you know, as far as then
them, we're all on the same side,

452
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.159
I shoot. But like it just
was weird. It was like an

453
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:53.840
intimidation tactic just to make me feel
unstable, and it just kind of died

454
00:34:53.880 --> 00:35:00.079
off and then I just didn't see
or hear anything weird ever again. On

455
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.719
with my life, I maintained an
interest and I've always had an interest in

456
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:09.480
UFOs and paranormal stuff and that,
you know, and esoterics stuff and you

457
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:14.039
know, just always found but that's
it's to me, that's our life is

458
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:19.880
interesting whatever. But like I just
basically carried on. And that was like

459
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:25.719
sixteen years ago, and it's only
when I was I've stopped talking to anyone

460
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:30.840
about it. And then it was
just so recently I just started binge listening

461
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:37.159
to your podcast, and I kept
listening to people's incredible stories and of course

462
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.800
then you're you're saying at the start, you know, if anyone wants to

463
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:45.440
say, to tell me one of
their experiences, and I thought, okay,

464
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:46.519
well, this is how I can
contribute to your show, because I

465
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:52.239
you know, I don't have spare
money as such, but I can tell

466
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.360
you something that happened to me and
hopefully people will find it interested and hopefully

467
00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:00.519
maybe something similar has happened to someone
else, and sort of thinking, so

468
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.360
they shouldn't talk about it, but
I think maybe right now, as things

469
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:08.239
are sort of progressing, especially in
the UFO f it would maybe people should

470
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.719
be talking about it and just saying, oh, yeah, no, you

471
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:17.400
know, I'm a fairly normal person
too. To me, Yeah, Nis

472
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.840
that's about it. I think,
mate be fair good stuff, Dave good

473
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:27.639
stuff. So this is something that
i've I've mentioned periodically on the show about

474
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.159
I call it kind of like a
paranormal bubble, all right. It's where

475
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:37.280
weird things start to happen. The
reason why you know they stopped interacting with

476
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.960
you is simply because you weren't talking
about it. And I think I think

477
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.000
the initial the initial few weeks of
if you having your experience, is usually

478
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.840
when you would tell someone, whether
it's a family member or start telling friends

479
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.960
on the phone, or even possibly
a journalist. So it looks like that

480
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.960
there was just nothing. I wouldn't
say, nothing interesting about you. But

481
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.880
whatever they think you saw, you
weren't. You weren't talking about it other

482
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.559
than to Ricky, Well it's it, you know. And I mean I

483
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.199
was firstly, I was really interested
as to how they knew, you know,

484
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.599
because because of the fact that we
hadn't really spoke to anyone, you

485
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.559
know, so I didn't I was
just like, I was a bit perplexed

486
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:19.159
about how we'd gone from being in
that field that night to then me getting

487
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:23.559
a lot of unwanted attention. So
unless you don't know who you're speaking to

488
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:28.679
sometimes when you speak where you don't
know or whether you don't know how whether

489
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.360
because you spoke to a friend on
the phone about it, is that enough,

490
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:36.639
you know, like and then that's
it that somehow that there are even

491
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:38.960
sixteen years ago, like you know, there are just keywords or something.

492
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.599
I don't know. I have no
idea. I've looked into all of that

493
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:44.960
stuff, you know, and sort
of like gone down the rabbit hole.

494
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.039
Actually, what you're saying now as
well was one of the reasons why I

495
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.199
was a little bit nervous about speaking
tonight, because I was thinking, well,

496
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.639
obviously everything went back to normal,
I thought, but then I'm going

497
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:01.400
to speak to Nick, you know, and obviously just hoping that no one's

498
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:06.159
threatened by me saying that. Do
you know what I mean? Like there

499
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.559
was too long ago? Now,
Yeah, it is a while ago,

500
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.760
and yeah, I mean there's a
few things to remember. I mean,

501
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.280
I've mentioned on the show before and
actually recently on a released episode where I

502
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:21.440
was lecturing, I started to get
this strange activity that was happening when I

503
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.199
was researching this staff. One of
the times I was living in Cheltenham and

504
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:30.559
I was doing a lecture at wonder
libraries, and at those kind of meetings

505
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:35.760
and lectures, you'd always have people
that come that are interested, and then

506
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.760
you have people which seemed a bit
out of place. They'd be quite smartly

507
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:44.000
dressed, you know, polished up
shoes, very military type looking individuals.

508
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:45.880
But they didn't they didn't seem interested, you know, they just seemed to

509
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.599
be there. You know, they
wasn't interacting or anything. And when it

510
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.440
finished, they left. Always never
stuck around, which where a lot of

511
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.039
people did. They stopped and chatted
and stuff, but these guys would always

512
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:58.159
leave. And I had a bike. I didn't have a time. I

513
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.159
had a bike and I was riding
back to the other side of Cheltenham,

514
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.679
and I was aware it was quite
late at night, and I was aware

515
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:09.360
I was being there was a car
following me and where I was living that

516
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:13.719
it was a coldy sack. I
enter it via like a like a like

517
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:15.880
a small alleyway and it comes out
into this this coldy sack. So I

518
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.119
knew this car was following me.
So all I did was I went through

519
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.000
the alleyway and then I circled back
to the road and then came out again.

520
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.920
When I came out, the car
stopped. He was He stopped on

521
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.880
the road and I pulled up alongside
him, and he wound up his window

522
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.239
and drove off. So it was
those little things. And then a short

523
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:36.719
time later on I had a load
of case files from cases I was I

524
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.159
was working on. There was a
couple of abductions in there, a lot

525
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.920
of a lot of UFO signs.
I had numbers, I had people's addresses,

526
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:45.199
descriptions of all, you know,
everything. So it wasn't on the

527
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:50.599
computer. It was all on these
physical files. And I had gone up

528
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:52.599
to Northampton, I think it was. So I was out for a good

529
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:57.639
ten hours and when I came back
past midnight, I had been broken into.

530
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.280
The window was smashed, all these
case files were missing, they were

531
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:05.440
all taken. Nothing in the house
was taken other than these files. So

532
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:09.159
I had like a TV and a
VHS player, all that that was fine.

533
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:13.920
Nothing was disturbed, only these case
files. So it's a lot of

534
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.000
things like that. And the phone. Yeah, I can totally relate to

535
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.880
the phone, the clickings, the
voices on the phone. That all happened,

536
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:24.159
and you tend to go I wouldn't
say mad, because I was aware

537
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:28.199
of what was happening. I was
paranoid. I did eventually get You do

538
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.519
get very paranoid. You're constantly looking
behind you. So then you've got to

539
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:36.320
say to yourself, well, you
know, if I'm being followed. Generally,

540
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:37.679
the people that do this are very
good at what they do. You

541
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.719
won't know them, you won't see
them, you won't hear them, because

542
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.360
they're under cover. So then it
begs the question is that either they weren't

543
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.880
very good at what they did,
or they wanted you to know. Right,

544
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.199
So the helicopter being in front of
you and being purely visible is because

545
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:58.760
they want you to know that they
know so you can look at it.

546
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.280
It totally felt like yeah, yeah, so it's more more intimidation than anything

547
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:04.719
else. And it include even in
the wooden in the field. You know,

548
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.760
she could have deliberately dropped the glasses
so you would find them, so

549
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.679
you'd then know of what she was
up to and see all the time,

550
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:13.960
there was still that plausible denial because, like I say, then if you

551
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:15.960
know, my missus immediately sort of
looked online to see if you could get

552
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:20.000
those glasses, and you could,
so there was nothing. It wasn't a

553
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.599
smoking gun that this was the intelligence
services or anything, because it was like

554
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.760
that anyone could get those glasses,
you know. So I've seen those glasses.

555
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.800
Yeah, they're very they're very handy
for the paranoid types that one know

556
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.760
who's followen them, and or especially
you know, even if even if you're

557
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.960
in some dangerous area, dangerous neighborhood, you know, to be aware of

558
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.639
who's behind you. So they're actually
quite a good idea. So I know

559
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:44.679
they too exist them. Yeah,
yeah, it's just the way she was

560
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:46.519
like, Oh, it's just you
know, like I said, there was

561
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.280
another I mean, I can think
of one more thing that like immediately,

562
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.320
there was a time when I was
looking out the front and there was a

563
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.719
car with four men in it,
and that they had a laptop open in

564
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:59.199
the car. I could see the
kind of you know that they kind of

565
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.079
glow off the spring or whatever,
and they were sitting there and they were

566
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:07.119
staring at the house. So I
phoned my mate who lived over the road,

567
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.400
and I said, can you see
these guys outside the house? You

568
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:13.679
know? And he said, oh
yeah, yeah, yeah heah. Mate

569
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:15.480
said what's going on with them?
And I said, I don't know,

570
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:16.920
but they looked because they all look
kind of clean cut, you know,

571
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:22.480
and he didn't look like gangsters or
whatever. They just they looked like,

572
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.400
you know, like they worked in
an office or something. But they were

573
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.639
staring at the house and they had
a laptop on. And I said to

574
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:32.679
him and said, okay, I'm
going to go out and see these guys.

575
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.079
I'm going I need to go out
and see what this is about.

576
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:37.079
And he said, yeah, yeah, he said, I'm looking out the

577
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.760
window. He said, just go
out and see them. As soon as

578
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.559
they did that, they started the
car and they drove off, and it

579
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:49.159
was like the timing was just I
was like, you're listening to my phone

580
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.480
calls. Yeah. At that point, I was just paranoid enough to sort

581
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.400
of like go, no, that
was two. They just immediately went,

582
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:57.880
oh, shut them laptop, and
they just start the car up and they

583
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:01.480
drove and it just felt like they'd
heard me say I'm going to go out

584
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:05.320
to you, and I'm going to
go and see these guys. And these

585
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.679
guys weren't like the other guy,
you know what I mean that these guys

586
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.480
were interested in me or whatever,
but they they didn't look like they wanted

587
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:13.679
to mess with you, you know, they talk like they immediately just went

588
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.760
they've gone. I don't know.
It was just and just another thing that

589
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:20.880
happened in those kind of three months. You know, it's just there,

590
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:24.800
you go, I don't know what
else to say about it. So they

591
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.320
were just trying to find out exactly
what you did see and then apply some

592
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:32.360
intimidation in there. What about Ricky? Did Ricky have anything like this happened?

593
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:37.159
So that was another sort of kind
of weird thing in a way about

594
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.039
it. He said he didn't really, He said like he just didn't really

595
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:45.039
have anything that he could think of
that had made him think that he was

596
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:50.559
under observation. So he just yeah, you can't say that he did because

597
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.280
he just he kind of didn't,
you know. So yeah, that was

598
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.320
that as far as he was concerned. He's kind of like it was behind

599
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.679
him, and you know, say
we carried on going out and all the

600
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.360
time we would we were still going
out and sitting in fields and stuff,

601
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:05.880
you know, with more kind of
reverence in a way. But he never

602
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:07.880
bought it anything weird like that.
He was driving the car, it was

603
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.400
me driving the car, So it
was your car, it was my car.

604
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:14.280
Yeah, that might be why then
because you know you did you did

605
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.760
see a police officer in your chol
car. Yeah, yeah, So isn't

606
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.519
that you could go mental? Couldn't
because you could think maybe those coppers actually

607
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:27.519
knew exactly what was going on.
So you just don't know, dear,

608
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.400
you just don't know. You don't
know. But when you were in the

609
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.480
field, now the actual location,
I might get you to draw a little

610
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:36.679
map if you can where all this, okay, well has happened. I'm

611
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.280
kind of thinking it happened between the
barracks and Lawnton, in the fields between.

612
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:43.760
That's right, is it? Yes, exactly where it was. Yeah,

613
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.519
there's like Farmers Fields basically. If
you if you're looking at the maps,

614
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:51.039
you know, and you sort of
followed that ring road round anti clockwise,

615
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:53.599
then as you come round to the
right hand side, you'll just see

616
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.239
a load of fields, or at
least it used to be. I haven't

617
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.559
been there for a long time,
but it used to be just kind of

618
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.599
Farmers Field, and then the next
village along would be Launton. There would

619
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.920
be in between those places, Jean, Yeah, and I'm guessing that there

620
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:12.360
is this big house and estate,
so that was wretched hick way that would

621
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.559
have been that ring road. That
whole area on the left hand side you

622
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.400
wasn't built up. Was that field
as well? No, that's Langford Village.

623
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:22.440
Oh so that is okay, so
that was there then then okay,

624
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.360
that was there, but it wasn't. But it's been built up over the

625
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.079
years. There wasn't as many houses
as I think there is now, so

626
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:30.960
it's kind of I know, over
the last kind of ten years it has

627
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:36.039
built up quite a bit round there. There's more industrial units and stuff than

628
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:37.320
there used to be. But but
yeah, it was off to the right

629
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.639
hand side, okay, Yeah,
because I can see two farms on there,

630
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.400
one that would have been just off
the ring road, and then there

631
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:45.880
are several quite a lot of fields, and then you got that you have

632
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:51.119
Launton just north of there. If
you were looking at the roundabout where the

633
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:58.760
base is, there's two roundabouts going
anti clockwise from there, and it was

634
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:04.280
basically just past the second roundabout and
then literally like you know, twenty yards

635
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:07.119
ahead of that roundabout. That's where
I parked and then went off into the

636
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.760
fields to the right of the Yeah, that's that's pretty much where I picture

637
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.800
of you. I've even got a
little lane way which I think you were

638
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.840
talking about wonderful yarking. And Okay, so you saw the light, the

639
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:22.559
light came down into the field.
Did these twelve or fifteen guys in the

640
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.960
hazmats were they coming away from the
object or going towards the object? They

641
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.760
were coming away, but they were
in our field, so it was like

642
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:36.840
we hadn't actually got into the field
where where the UFO was. We were

643
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.719
walking towards the hedgerow that was in
between us and the UFO, and they

644
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:45.239
were on this side of the hedge. Now that's that again is a little

645
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.480
bit strange because like we went back
there during the day and it actually looks

646
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.559
like I don't know how they would
have got through through the hedge. So,

647
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.800
yeah, it's a bit The whole
thing was a bit strange, very

648
00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:00.480
strange, indeed. And you said
about the size of the object was about

649
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:07.280
the size of your fist an't stretched. Yeah, And then like so looking

650
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:12.039
at it, like obviously it was
a distance away and through another hedgerow,

651
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.480
but I could have easily believed if
someone had said to me that was thirty

652
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:21.440
foot in diameter, that would sound
about right. But it was just a

653
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.199
white light. You couldn't see any
pails. You couldn't see a craft.

654
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:29.719
It was a white It was a
star. Did you get what I'm saying?

655
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:32.199
Sort of thing it was. It
was it was like looking at a

656
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.280
star, but just a big one, you know, yeah, nothing other

657
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.719
than that really. So it's like
if you know when you see like satellites

658
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.760
go across the sky end like it
kind of like I assumed if it was

659
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:46.719
at height it would have looked like
one of them. It was just the

660
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.679
fact that it was right down here
that it looked like, you know,

661
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.119
the size of a bus or whatever, which is like, but I'm sure

662
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.559
if it was up right up high
in the sky, it would have just

663
00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:00.400
looked like a satellite. And the
lighted self. What color was it?

664
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:05.920
It was just white, I say, exactly the same as as a as

665
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.760
a white star. It was.
It was like white light and it was

666
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:14.400
it wasn't blinding you could look at
it, but it but it was right,

667
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.159
you know. It was like I'd
never really got an opportunity to just

668
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.559
stare stare at it except the best
view I got a bit was kind of

669
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:27.880
when it was just overtaking the car, when it was heading off towards the

670
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.880
field as it was coming down.
At that point, I did kind of

671
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.440
like stare at it for a while
as it was driving. But again,

672
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.360
there was no difference from it when
it was behind us and when it was

673
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.119
in front it was it looked like
a staff and behind you look like staff

674
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:44.840
and fun or whatever the barishment heading. It's sort of like there was just

675
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:50.960
no details to other than it just
being a bright white light and there was

676
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:53.840
no pulsating, no flashing of light
or anything like that, just like a

677
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.480
static light. It was. It
was, Yeah, it was just like

678
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:04.679
a solid white light. Yeah.
There was no kind of there's no aircraft

679
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.480
light on it, you know,
or anything like that, And it didn't

680
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:12.000
seem to be more or right,
and it just it's they exactly the same

681
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.599
time, even when I'm assuming that
some of it's a bit of assumption,

682
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.679
But even when it was on the
ground, it still was glowing. So,

683
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.280
like I just it kind of gave
the impression that it was exactly the

684
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:27.559
same brightness even when it was sitting
on the ground as when it was in

685
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:31.039
the air. And when it had
come down to the field, was it

686
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:37.440
illuminating the surroundings. Yeah, and
you think it's possible that that these these

687
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:44.320
individuals had come from the subject.
Well, I can't. I can't say

688
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.719
for certain. All I can say
is that they were in this field when

689
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.920
this thing came down and we went
into that field. You know, I

690
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.320
didn't see them get out of that
light. I didn't see them go back

691
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.880
to it. They were just we
will start walking towards the hedgerow where we

692
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.239
were going to be able to see
the like absolutely directly through the hedge.

693
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.519
And as we ventured towards the middle
of the field, they were coming from

694
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:14.960
that headrow, walking towards like you
know, kind of towards us, if

695
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:19.440
you like, across the field.
But I never actually saw them like get

696
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.000
out of the craft. But like
I said, like as you can see,

697
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:28.760
like you know, they are typical
farmers fields and stuff. The only

698
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:34.239
other option would be that those twelve
fifteen guys were already in that field and

699
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.559
they knew that thing was coming down. That's the only other option that I

700
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.199
can think of. But they had
some connection to that white line. They

701
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:46.119
they weren't farmers, and they weren't
they weren't a crime investigation unit or anything

702
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.480
like that, you know, the
way that they so I forgot to mention

703
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:55.119
that when I talked to Rickie about
what happened about the guy's face, exactly

704
00:50:55.159 --> 00:51:00.440
the same thing happened to Ricky as
well. So Rickie had this the exact

705
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:05.159
same experience. The guy was nose
to nose with him and told him to

706
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.280
get out of the field, and
he had the same dread and everything.

707
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:14.400
So the guy did it to both
of us simultaneously. They weren't farmers,

708
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:16.800
you know. Yeah, I was
going to ask you if Ricky had the

709
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:21.079
same thing happened, because you were
both out of there pretty quickly. You

710
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:22.840
high tailed it. Yeah, I
didn't realize, sorry after I must have

711
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.599
missed it at the time. But
yeah, the reason why Ricky was pacing

712
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:29.239
that he wasn't because he was chasing
me out of the field. He wasn't.

713
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.079
He wasn't running because I was running. He was running because he had

714
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:34.960
exactly the same experience. See that's
an unusual one, isn't it. So

715
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:38.280
how far what kind of distance would
you have said you and Ricky were away

716
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:43.400
from these individuals at that point?
I say, you know, a hundred

717
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:47.000
yards, okay, a hundred yards
less less than half a field away.

718
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:52.079
You know, it's very strange and
that you know, Ricky. Ricky points,

719
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.440
this guy turns around, stare straight
at you two, and then you

720
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:00.559
both see like a projection. Would
you said, look maybe like a projectually

721
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.519
saw you saw his face ryan in
front of yours. Yeah, it could

722
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:06.280
have. It could have been.
You know, I couldn't have told you

723
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:09.800
the difference between it being a projection
and him actually being there. But it

724
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:14.360
was like he was you know,
my nose was like touching his visor.

725
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:17.199
It was like that. And it
wasn't. I didn't project forwards. It

726
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:21.239
was like he was s stood there. And I say, it could have

727
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:23.800
been in my mind, it could
it could have been physical. I couldn't

728
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:28.000
have told you the difference, you
know, like it was somehow he managed

729
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.719
to sort of like bomb eye to
eye with me, like he was giving

730
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.000
my face you know. So I
don't know, Yeah, it wasn't.

731
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:37.719
It annoyed me because like, well
I amn't really interested in the subject,

732
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:45.679
and like I would like to have
had a like a nicer experience, but

733
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:51.880
like it wasn't the nicest experience.
So you know, I said, I've

734
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.519
had other experience as well. I'm
better than but like, but this would

735
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.440
have it would have been nice.
If this actual all kind of like in

736
00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:02.239
this absolute well you know, nor
encounter, it would have been nice,

737
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:08.239
nice guys and blonde hair saying hi. But it wasn't. It was kind

738
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:13.519
of like fairly aggressive encounter. Yeah, it's because you stumbled upon something,

739
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.400
something going on, and when this
guy turned around looked at you, guys,

740
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:21.239
you had his face in your face. You were overcome with fear.

741
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.719
Yeah. I felt fear before,
you know, like been nervous and stuff,

742
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.400
and this was just it was kind
of like it was amplified. It

743
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:32.599
definitely felt external, like he he
made me feel like that. It was

744
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:37.559
horrible. It was really horrible.
And I've heard of the of, you

745
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.719
know, people having these feelings before, but these feelings tend to be projected

746
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.320
by some kind of instrument or equipment
of some sort. So right, you

747
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:50.800
know, but this guy was just
able to do it just by looking at

748
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.599
you too. I mean it's I
mean because they were wearing these suits,

749
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:58.000
you know, like I don't know
whether maybe he had something on his suits

750
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.400
us. You know, he may
well put his hand up to something,

751
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:06.039
but I just I didn't see it
myself. But like all of my experience

752
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:07.519
was that it felt like he was
doing it from his mind, you know

753
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.119
that he was just like from me, was in my face, and I

754
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:15.440
got the telepathic agard where he told
all I heard him, So it wasn't

755
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.440
the slight difference was in my head
I heard, But it wasn't just the

756
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.800
words that obviously, it was the
feeling that made me turn and run of

757
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:29.039
Ricky heard go away, and I
questioned him about that. Is that what

758
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:31.679
you heard? Because I say,
because I heard him actually swear at me,

759
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:36.239
and he said no, because he
just said go away. But he

760
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.760
said it was really many things.
And I thought, oh, that's interesting,

761
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:42.880
because I think then what it was
was that that like it was like,

762
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.440
it's not what he projected verbally,
it was like our interpretation of something

763
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:52.360
that was projected at us. And
I think so Ricky obviously interpreted he's telepathic,

764
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.559
if you like, just it was
the same meaning that for different words,

765
00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.039
you know, whereas mine just felt
more aggressive. So I don't I

766
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:04.599
think he actually swore or at me. I think it was just that That's

767
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:08.239
how my mind was kind of like
interfectly interesting. And you said you went

768
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:12.199
back to the site. Was that
the next day or the following week,

769
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.599
No, we we went. So
we went back a couple of times.

770
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:20.199
So let's tell you an interest in
still a side story. One of my

771
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:23.000
friends, he was interested in what
happened, and we went back there.

772
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:27.920
And when we went back there,
this was about three weeks later, we

773
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.679
saw another light and it came and
then it just stopped and then it went

774
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:36.719
and we was like, okay,
cool, you know, that's nothing else

775
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:40.199
interesting happened about from this weird light. They say it did just come over

776
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:44.679
race like strange and stopped dead,
and then we sort of felt a bit

777
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:46.320
spooped out, and then it just
went back to the way it came from.

778
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:51.800
So, but my friend was taking
photos and in one of the photos

779
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:59.199
there's orange lights in the sky just
behind our heads and they definitely weren't there

780
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:01.360
at the time took the photos,
like there was just another one of those

781
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:06.320
kind of just strange anomalies of things
that happened when you go out, you

782
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.360
know, doing style watching and stuff. But there were three orange lights that

783
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:14.760
were in the sky and they're quite
bright, but they didn't they weren't there

784
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.440
when we were stood there. They
just came out on the photo, you

785
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:20.480
know, like orbs or something.
I don't know, but really prominent.

786
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.519
You know, it's strange, but
yeah, just one of those strange things.

787
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.519
You know, you need to really
get a Geiger counter take up any

788
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:30.119
traces of anything was picked up because
I mean they were wearing hazmat suits.

789
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:32.599
That's what they look like. Yeah, I couldn't say for sure that's exactly

790
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.000
what they were, but that's what
they looked like. You know. You

791
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:39.000
know, if you see you know, a classic picture of guys in hazmat

792
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:43.000
suits, that's that's what they look
like. They weren't particularly great fitting or

793
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.519
anything. They were wearing them just
like people wear hazmat suits, you know,

794
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.239
where they designed to fit all.
You know, there's a big part

795
00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:51.960
of me that people if someone said
to me, oh, you know,

796
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:57.119
what were they aliens, I'm like, I can't tell you. They were

797
00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:00.119
wearing some kind of suit. It
was there to protect them. Sounds was

798
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.360
against something. I mean, it
seems a likely place for him to be

799
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:07.800
doing any kind of you know,
military testing or anything like that. You

800
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:08.800
know, with the hazmats and the
like. You know, you can say

801
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:13.519
it was some kind of military exercise
or something, but that the guy turning

802
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.920
around and you're getting these weird vibes, and then all the stuff which happened

803
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:20.880
after with the helicopters in the phone
and all that. You know, that's

804
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:25.079
kind of something which doesn't happen if
it's just a military exercise of sorts.

805
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:29.719
So you know, you've you've definitely
experienced something. You know. Obviously we

806
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.840
can't have conclusions and say it was
aliens and act, but something definitely did

807
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:36.280
happen to you and Ricky that that
night. Yeah, And I just I

808
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:38.079
think, like I just don't know
whether it was meant to come down.

809
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:42.159
That's the sort of feeling I had. Was it was. It was like

810
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:45.440
it's just like, you know,
we stumbled into an accident or something,

811
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:49.119
you know, like I don't know, the whole thing just felt dangerous and

812
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.320
like as if it like they weren't
meant to be there. We weren't meant

813
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:58.039
to be there one no one was
meant to be there, and but there

814
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.880
we were, you know, and
it was just almost like a feeling of

815
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.199
kind of I don't know, I
can't say, I can't that's how they

816
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:06.599
felt or anything. That was almost
like a kind of you know, kind

817
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:08.000
of embarrassing thing where everyone's like,
oh, sorry, you saw this.

818
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:12.719
You know, you shouldn't be here, and that's going, Yeah, we're

819
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:15.000
sorry, we're here. Could they
just knocked on your door say here,

820
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:16.159
listen, sorry about the other night. You know, you know you weren't

821
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.119
supposed to see that, so,
you know, if you can, need

822
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:22.400
to keep quiet. But did you
hear anything about this? You know,

823
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:27.000
did you was there any anybody mentioning
things that they'd seen or some weird activity

824
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:29.800
in the field, or was it
just from the moment it happened, that

825
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:30.960
was it? You didn't hear anything
about it? Yeah, and not that

826
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:34.960
I know of, you know,
nothing came back our way. And like,

827
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:37.679
I'll be honest with you, I'm
not really a local paper reader or

828
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:42.360
anything. I didn't hear anything.
No one, you know, no one

829
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.079
spoke to me about it or wasn't
really big on the internet or anything like

830
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.760
that at the time. I'm not. I've never really been a particularly technically

831
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:54.000
orientated person and not really interested.
So I've only had a smartphone for about,

832
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.400
you know, two years, so
it just I've kind of avoided it

833
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.880
if we can, and I've avoided
the internet. Well, be honest with

834
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:05.239
you and to our listeners, you
know, if anyone lives in the area

835
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:09.679
around Oxford, and you may have
witnessed or heard about something happened just like

836
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:13.679
what Dave said. You know,
let us know. In fact, maybe

837
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:17.239
you were one of the people that
were harassing Dave, following him and you're

838
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:22.360
no longer with that agency anymore.
Maybe you know, get in contact.

839
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:24.320
We'd like to know what you you
know, your deal was there. Did

840
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:29.320
you ever reported Dave at all,
report it to the police or anything.

841
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.119
Not so much the police, so
I like move on or like a UFO

842
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:37.599
supporting center. Yes, I spoke
to Dave Hojan, you know Dave Hojan

843
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:40.199
from a Birmingham UFO group. I
do indeed, Yeah, I'm a friend

844
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:43.480
of him on Facebook. Yeah,
yeah, I've spoke to him like a

845
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.760
few times about different things that we
sort of kept in contact for a while,

846
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.400
and he was he came to see
my band play a few times and

847
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.719
I think he's in two of the
music videos as well the band, so

848
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:54.400
you know, we sort of became
friends for a while. He's a good

849
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.280
guy. But yeah, he knew
all about it. He did a case

850
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:00.760
thing on it, you know.
Oh that good. What I do is

851
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:04.000
our link to that as well with
in the show notes. Good stuff.

852
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.519
That was interesting, Dave. I'm
not gonna lie. Thanks mate, nice

853
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:10.079
one. We'll keep up with good
work mate, and I'll just I'll go

854
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:13.559
you what's up now? So I'll
message every now and then say you doing

855
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:15.760
yeah, no problem? Yeah,
cause like I said, keep in contact.

856
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:17.400
All right, Dave, I really
appreciate you coming on sharing that for

857
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:21.519
our listeners. Thanks mate, Yeah, I'll see you soon, no worries,

858
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:22.840
take care, Dave, all right, and I will talk to you

859
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.079
soon. Bye mate, Bye bye
for now. That is all for this

860
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.400
week. Keep updated and connected with
this show on Twitter, Facebook, and

861
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:34.800
Instagram. And if you have an
encounter that you'd like to share on the

862
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:39.400
podcast, you can email me at
UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com, or

863
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:44.880
you can reach out to me via
the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles

864
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.639
podcast dot com. A big thank
you to David for sharing tonight, and

865
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.159
thank you all for listening. I
will be back next week. Till then,

866
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:55.360
stay safe and keep watching us guys. Goodbye