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Oh Friday. Oh my gosh,
I love you so freaking much, Friday.

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How's it going everybody? This is
the BombCast Revengeance. Do the echo

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with my voice please right now.
Thank you? Echo echo, echo voice

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echo. Oh sure, yeah,
yeah, that's my job. You just

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found out about it, but that's
what's gonna happen. Welcome everybody to the

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Giant BombCast Revengeance. That's right,
it's Friday. It's time for you to

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get just another second helping. You
went back up to this the bar.

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You're like, you know what,
it wasn't blowing in another plate, But

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here I am, and I'm loading
it up with just olives and onions and

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maybe banana peppers. Saved it at
the end. Yeah, saved it with

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those banana PEPs. Uh. Jeff
Grubb is here. How are you?

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I'm good? What's the What is
like? Is that like your would you

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consider that a meal? Like if
I woke up in the morning I had

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like a bowl of jalapenos, I
would consider that breakfast. Sometimes it's just

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the ramblings of a psycho. I
don't understand. Never said it was a

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bowl of alps, like a small
ball? Is that small? It's so

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weird. Oh my god, we
must pivot out line. All right,

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Well, no, I have a
question. Are they fresh or pickled?

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Listen, I would love them fresh, but they're pickled, Like come on

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look at me. Oh yeah,
he would die if he ate fresh alpinos

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like a bowl of them, like
a bowl. Yes, I would just

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I would eat one occasionally, but
like, yes, it would kill me.

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Could you imagine going to a diner
and then one of the items available

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for order is fresh bowl that's so
weird. I've had like a little like

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cup of holopenos delivered to my table
before, as like like like there's nacho

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chips and there's salsa, and then
there's a bunch of like a nacho just

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sliced, and then I'll just munch
on those. Okay, I was gonna

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say, you're not supposed to do
that. That's there. They're garnish.

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They're garnished. They're not like okay, yes, but they're really tasty.

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Well yeah, sure, no one's
gonna argue with you there. I won't,

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and neither will Nikki Grayson, how
are you true? I'm good.

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I'm good. I'm hanging out.
It's freaking Friday, dude, you know

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and that's huge as a person who
loves Friday it's already Friday. That this

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is the first short week in a
long time where I've thought it's already Friday.

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Yeah, it's not like I used
to be like, short week,

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give it to me. That's awesome. It's Friday's gonna be here before I

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know it. And then that stopped
happening at some point, and this week

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it came back, and I'm very
relieved. They're the best. They're the

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best kind of week. I am
a pro four day week person. Pass

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it around. Uh turble Sean,
how are you. I'm hanging in there,

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Jeben. Very busy this week.
Yeah, tell us about your week?

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Uh, Jan, where are you? No, I'm getting everything done,

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you know, everything's being taken care
of us and everything. But I'm

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just like, how the hell does
Jan do this on top of everything else

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he does? So yeah, I'm
yeah. Well, I want to extend

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our our our gratitude to you because
you really are helping us out in a

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way that, uh, I'm not
sure we can really put into words.

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Keeping the website on somehow, keeping
keeping the lights on, keeping the plates

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spinning, keeping the drinks filled,
and keeping the jalapeno bulls filled up with

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for that that shit that was my
writer, Thank you. Just like,

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imagine you're at a party and someone's
just like passing that around. You're just

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like, what the fuck is wrong? Would you share? I would keep

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it to myself. I wouldn't pass
it around. So strange. Speaking of

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eating stuff, guys, I went
to Korean barbecue after our LA excursion,

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and I gotta say, like,
that place was really good. And I

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don't think the place I went to
here was at the same level, but

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it was like maybe ninety percent of
the way there. It's still fun because

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the think about Korean barbecue is it's
a good time because the cook cook and

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have it on the table. That's
satisfying. Here's the thing, Okay,

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I get home from LA and I
say to Stacey and Dem, I'm like,

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yo, we gotta do Korean barbecue. Just like take your jacket off,

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Like what do you do? Like
like like, no, it's two

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am, but your jagging out.
Let's go, I don't pants on.

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It took like two weeks, so
maybe three weeks to finally round up the

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crew, and then we went out
with another family that we're friends with and

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everyone was like very They were like, oh, this sounds exotic, like

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Backler is gonna show us a good
time. And here I am feeling like

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I got a lot of pressure on
me now because I'm gonna have to like

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be the jan where I'm like telling
everyone what everything is and how we have

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to cook it. It was a
lot of pressure. It was a lot

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of pressure. But I think we
killed it. The only thing we fucked

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up with. And I knew this
was gonna happen because my buddy who I

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went with, his eyes were way
bigger than his stomach, and I kept

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saying, like Jake, I don't
I don't think we should order that much,

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like you're this is like for a
small football team and it's just like

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seven of us and we over ordered. It was fine, but I some

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of that game. Yeah, here's
the thing, friends, when you when

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you over order at Korean barbecue,
you still have to cook everything before you

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take up work. Yeah, you
get your own fucking left of so you're

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not hungry anymore and you've got to
just get in that grill and grill it's

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still just like you know, forking
and stuff around full two. The smell

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is making me nauseous as well,
but here we just flipped the head and

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put it in a little to go
back. I went to the Korean barbecue

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place once and they brought us the
wrong like, they brought us an extra

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plate of brisket. Oh, and
they put it on the It was a

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situation where they're like, here's the
meat. Here. It goes on to

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the thing, and then we like
started to cook it. And then they

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came back and they were like,
is this y'alls? And we were like,

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I don't know. You brought it
to us, like I don't know,

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And then they were and then they
like talked amongst themselves and they're like,

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oh, no, this is for
a different table. So they picked

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up the whole fucking heating element out
of the table and then they threw it

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away in front of us. They
picked up the whole fucking plate and they

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threw all of it away. It
hadn't even finished cooking and they just tost

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it. It was that's a crazy
I was so upset. They're like,

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not for you. They didn't even
bring it over to the other table.

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No, then just threw it away. We'd rather see this. You get

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a three piece of meat. Oh
my God, that is very weird.

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You know, it never went back
there because we were all mad. Of

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course I would never can't be rewarded
again, you know. Wow. All

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right, so that was my Korean
barbecue story. I'll be back at that

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place because it was I think it
was pretty good. All I was considered

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being in a suburban Jersey. What
else friends, what else we got cooking?

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I'm with Sean where it's like,
boy has a lot of work this

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week. They're just kind of went
on stop. I'm like, I like,

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here's my problem. The week starts
out. We're in that meeting and

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like Jan Sick, Lucy and Tammark
there, they're busy there. I think

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there are stole on breaking. I
knew what was coming and I was like,

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oh, okay, I didn't really
notice and I didn't think about it,

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like we should do all this stuff. And I'm like, oh,

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we should not have planned to do
all this stuff. I should have planned

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for way less of what we had
planning for. Because I'm like, oh,

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mag, I'm jumping from one thing
to another. So yeah, at

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this point, I'm like I'm gonna
go get on the steam deck and just

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lay on the bean bag and play
a video game for like two hours tonight

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playing a video game. I've been
doing a lot of that. What have

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you been playing? You play?
You heard of his any game? Pickman

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four? Oh? Oh, I
heard of that? Yeah? You see

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over there? Yeah? Wow,
he triggered. Wait, time out.

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You can't just trigger the thing after
someone just breaks up. He's doing it

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again. He's triggering everything. Wait, I don't. I didn't know you

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trigger stuff on this man. He's
triggering everything. John from Maryland asks,

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actual, we'll get to that genuine
you call me by surprise. When Nikki,

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Oh my god, Jen, where
the fuck are you? Jen?

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You can't be that sick. Enough
is enough? Anyway? You know it's

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Friday. Nikki brings up Pickman four, and all hell breaks loose. Listen,

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you're playing Pickman four. Yeah,
so I have never I played Pickman

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one when I had my GameCube,
and I didn't like it because I was

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afraid of the bugs on the TV. Expect you to say that there,

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Oh man, there was Nintendo fucking
loved a bug in the early two thousands

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when I when I didn't get through
Metro Prime either, because you in the

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first level ofmentary prime when you're on
the ship, you get through the you

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go through the whole fucking thing,
and then there's that big bug in the

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tube that you have to shoot.
And I got there and then I started

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screaming, and then I turned the
GameCube off and I took the disc out

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and I said, Mom, we
have to take this back. And then

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we took it back and I got
a different game, but I'm playing Pickman

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four. I downloaded the demo while
I was in New Zealand, and I

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was like, oh, I'll play
the demo on the plane on like one

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of my flights to determine whether or
not I will like the game. I

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got thirty five minutes in and I
passed out in the middle of playing it,

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and I was like, well,
if that means that it's not for

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me, and then all you guys
were talking about it, and I was

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like, Okay, I'll give it
another shot. So I replayed the demo

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earlier in the week and I had
a blast, just like was like it

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like it all clicked basically immediately,
and I was like, okay, I'll

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buy the full game. Bought the
game, and I'm having such a good

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time. It's like it's so it's
just fun. It's chilled. The pacing

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is really good. The speed at
which the game goes from like oh,

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nothing, nothing bad is happening to
you. Everything is on fire and I

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need to like put this fire out, and then it's like, oh,

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you put the fire out, easy
piece. But it's like they're stress somehow

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they found a way to like like
make faux stress, like, yeah,

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it's stressful, isn't It's like once
you realize, oh I handled that,

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Oh that wasn't so bad, but
oh my god, all this stuff is

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going wrong, and they like even
when they get to the point where like

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later in the game there's like this
more time segment. They got rid of

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the most of the timing elements here, like the day style ends, but

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they're not trying to rush you through
in a thirty day segment. They have

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something like that later in the game. And even that, it's like you

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could work yourself into a shoot thinking
that, oh I got to get this

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stuff done, but you're gonna find
out like, oh, I could actually

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get through this in about half the
time that they give me. So yeah,

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it's it's really neat. And I
think there is also such a big

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one of the things that pushed me
away from it, especially when Piman three

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came out, was I was like, I don't know if I have the

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bandwidth mentally to manage all of the
things that I thought that the game would

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make me manage. But so much
of Pickman four, I don't want to

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say plays itself. But they have, like they have so thoroughly sanded the

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edges of this game. Yes,
like the fact that I can open the

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map and be like, Okay,
I don't want to I physically don't want

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to hold the stick to walk to
here, but I can go over there.

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I can just go over there,
and then I'm just like okay,

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well the game will take me over
there, and then I'll do the thing

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that I want to do, and
then I'll tell the game to take me

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back to this other place and then
it'll do it. It's so nice like

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it it feels it's a very considered
experience and like I feel like I'm being

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taken care of as the players,
especially like having just hopped off of Pokemon

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Violet because I finished that up also
earlier this month, literally on a whim.

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Yeah, I was like, it's
like, what if I finished this

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game that I literally got ninety eight
percent of the way through and that game

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fucking sucks. But that game like
has no there's it doesn't for many reasons,

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right, Like that game was not
ready to come out when it came

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out, like obviously we all everyone, yeah, like I don't want to

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relitigate Pokemon Scarlett Violet. But even
from a conceptual perspective, that game does

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not give a shit about the player. It doesn't feel like it does.

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Pickman four very much cares about whether
or not I'm having a good time all

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playing it, and I can feel
that and I appreciate it and I'm really

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having a blast. And the thing
is like with Pickman, uh, there's

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an evolution there where it's like they
kind of got to that point over time

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where they're like, actually, that
is going to be our new north Star.

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It was not always what the right
the hallmark of the Pickman series,

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the thing about like going to the
map and setting away point and your character's

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just running there. They came out
with that for Pickman two, and when

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they had you have like controlling like
two different characters at once. Yes,

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you had to send one character over
there, and you could still control two

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characters to once. In this game, one could be og and one could

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be your character. You never have
to do that, not really, you

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can if you want, if you
like wanted, like, oh, like

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I'm gonna go take care of all
these things at the same time, that

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would be nice. Well then do
it and pickman two. You had to

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do it, and so you were
managing all this stuff, and so they're

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like, well, we got to
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two things at once. In a
way that felt very like we are going

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to specifically challenge the player and what
they're capable of, even if it's a

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player who might not necessarily feel capable
of that thing. You know, it's

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a game. Eventually, you're gonna
get good enough at it. This game

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is like, No, the fun
thing here is the loop. It is

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looking at what's ahead and being like, I can't wait to get that thing.

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I see it's a giant thing over
there. I can't wait to have

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enough. Yeah, that can walk
through water and go pick that up and

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then come through here. And that
that big ambastard over there that shoots fire,

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I'll attack him and he'll be dealt
with. And like, I just

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have this plan in my plan in
my mind. And now that I'm here.

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I can't wait to just do this
and this and this and this to

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accomplish that. And then once shooes
you do that, you see another thing

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and it just strings you along by
the nose. Yes, And it's so

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it's so it's expertly crafted. Each
of these spaces is so like lovingly considered

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that at Nope, it it's like
it kind of feels like, you know

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how in Breadth of the Wilds when
you find a thing or enters the King,

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when you see a thing and you're
like, oh fuck, I can't

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wait to get to there eventually,
And like sometimes you like try to make

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your way over there and then you
get distracted. Right, sure, Pigment

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four is not the scales not there, the scope isn't there. You're not

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going to get distracted. But each
of the things that you will find are

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so thoroughly worthwhile. The first like
I pulled a game Boy micro out of

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the fucking ground. Last I lost
my mind. I was like, this

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is the sickest shit in the world. I didn't even think anybody know we's

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talking about this guy. The worst
game point into ever made. That's the

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weirdest one. And then I was
like this is so sick. I'm gonna

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put it back in my little in
my little spaceship and then they're gonna It's

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like, it's so cool. It
just it feels lovingly considered. It feels

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it's a very warm game, and
I really appreciate that. Yeah, like

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I speak about it, it's that
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think about possibly maybe doing something.
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the demo. The demo is good, and it carries over to the main

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game, so it's not wasted time. So if you end up play liking

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the demo, well then you just
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you buy. And if you don't, well no, no, you know,

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no skin off your ass. Yeah, yeah, the demo say skin

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off your ass. I think that's
really good. I think we should more

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people should say it. Yeah,
if I would have been afraid to play

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this game if I didn't have the
demo straight out. So, like,

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if you are like I don't fucking
know, just like do the demo like

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in them, like you can complete
that, you'll know immediately if it's for

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you or not, because the lou
is very simple. Yeah, I think

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at least the first thirty minutes.
By the after that first thirty minutes,

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the tutorialization up front might make you
feel like, oh, it's going to

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be talking to me like this the
whole game. It's like, no,

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once it gives, once it presents
you the loop, it's gonna mostly set

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you free to enjoy that loop.
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a really spectacular game. Yeah,
I really enjoy it. And it's uh

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one of the easiest games to one
percent, not because the difficulty levels loon,

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which you know it is, but
just because it's so encouraging in one

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of making you want to play.
Yeah, it makes you want to just

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like see that next thing, and
it feels manageable. Honestly, Like the

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two best games the one dred percent
probably came out this year, Spider Man

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two in this Yeah, like just
so easy to do both those games.

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What is it? What is it
about Spider Man two that made me be

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like, yeah, I'll fucking do
it all of it. I think I

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think it's mostly a them responding to
the criticism of Spider Man one being like,

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no, man, I don't really
need to do fight five crimes in

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every single one of these blocks in
your entire city, don't be crazy,

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And they're like, you know what, you're right. We're gonna give you

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like maybe ten of all of these
little tasks that we built for this game,

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and once you do that, you're
good. Now you could like we'll

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have some other stuff for you to
do. But once you've done that,

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you know, yeah, we realized
that this stuff's not gonna be fun the

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thirtieth time, but it's still fun
the ninth tenth time. Yeah, the

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ninth or ten times hits. Yeah, exactly. And also there's like a

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bunch of the side quests are really
good, so you're encouraged to go explore,

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you know, like the music side
quests and our thing is freaking awesome.

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stuff. It just like all feeds

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back into itself. So I was
a little more down on Spider Man two

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than our people, but I didn't
like just exploring the city was actually my

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favorite player of that game. There's
something about that game that I think they

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really did find ever since Morales,
they really did find like a good groove

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of not overwhelming you and it.
I mean, there's definitely more stuff to

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do in two, but it still
feels peppered in uh careful enough that it

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isn't this thing that you just roll
your eyes at, right, because it's

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because a lot of times it's like, Okay, I got into a side

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quest and now it's like its own
little mini campaign with its own rewards,

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but like you feel like you accomplished
something in the fiction of the world.

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Yeah, I would have going through
a little museum that teaches you about music,

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and it's like, fucking Christ,
this is this is awesome. This

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is all like actual, real,
true ship and I'm having a great time.

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The rock Steady Batman's did that really
well? Moving into where you're like,

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oh, I mean Riddler trophies like
changed every trophy writ large. Yes,

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absolutely, Yeah, you know so
I think that's like, uh,

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you know, taking the best kind
of uh notes from from that implementation and

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making it work. Yeah. Like
I'm still playing that game. I still

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think. I still think it looks
so goddamn good. It's ridiculous, Like

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it's weird. I I play it
sometimes like far away on a on a

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TV, and then sometimes I'll play
it like right in my face and it's

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just bananas, like when you really
just get stuck. I play it high

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a lot, and I just feel
like, yeah, that's what I was

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getting at, and you're just like
looking at it and you're just sort of

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like, oh, is that like
the reflection of the Yeah? Cool?

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There was there's a shot where my
spoilers sorry, Miles gets a new suit

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he's get in the Spider Man game. Was it the daft Punk suit he

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has? Because that's pretty cool?
The daft Punk suit is good. No,

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when Miles like gets his his his
suit, his suit, that is

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like he's like, I'm gonna go
make a suit his final story suit.

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There's a bit where where he's got
these fucking ugly ass Adidas forty x's one

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of my favorite shoes, but when
he puts his weight down on the on

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his feet, the shoes compress,
and I was like, you motherfucker.

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Yeah, what kind of budget allows
for that? Yeah the hair suit whereas

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hair is out for some reason.
But yeah, that game looks unreal.

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Like if if video games always looked
like this, I would lose my mind.

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Yeah, it's like, oh they
almost can't Like, yeah, the

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world couldn't handle it if they all
looked that good. But that's like the

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thing, like these days we get
to a World place. You're like,

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man, I can't wait for that
next generation of consoles where ever game's gonna

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look like the Last of Us part
too. It's like, oh, homie,

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you oh, you don't get it, do you. It's not you.

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It has nothing to do with the
power. It's the budget. It's

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a budget. It's the budget,
like they had the budget to make that

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look like like that on the PS
four. That's the difference back then.

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Then. That's not going to suddenly
change because we have more powerful hardware.

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It's the budget. Yeah, what
uh, what else does anyone playing?

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I I know, I know.
We could say we're playing Prince of Persia

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and yeah, nothing about it.
We could say that, yeah, we

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might have might have some extra codes
that we'll be able to get you.

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So okay, yeah, it's maybe
the game that we will talk about a

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lot here in the next couple of
weeks. But that's all we can say

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right now is that we're playing.
I guess we could talk about like,

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hey, it runs nice. They
confirm that themselves. It runs great everywhere,

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and guess what, it runs great
everywhere, So yes, confirm what

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they confirmed publicly already. You can
kind of not worry about that, so

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wherever you are planning to play it, yes, you're gonna be fine,

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but that's it's been taking up a
lot of my gaming time. That so,

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and next week will be able there
you said next week, I think

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the next I couldn't remember exactly when
the embargo was. Yeah, it's the

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eleventh, so oh perfect. We
could say, I'm just looking at like

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what we can actually say, like
all the things that are in the green

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text columns and green uh yeah,
PCR. We'll talk about that on the

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next week. Could be like we'll
do a review for the next BombCast Revenge,

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so totally. And the and the
cool thing is like we're all playing

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it on different platforms I feel like, right, like so so that's cool.

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It's it's film, Steam and PC
and I'm playing out on the Asis

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rog ally things like that. So
yep, we will. We'll have a

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lot to talk about that with that
game. That's not gonna be the first

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big game of the year, and
then it's kind of going to start up

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again here through January and February.
There's a handful of games that will be

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popping off, like a Dragon Wentz
Tacking and it's like twenty six I believe

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Yeah, twenty six damn crazy.
I know. It's like it's like they

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haven't stopped, you know. I
think, uh, I do think,

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Like there is this weird thing that
happens at the end of a calendar year

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where I just sort of like look
back and I'm like, I'm looking at

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my list and I'm just like a
sorry, guys, you didn't make it,

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Like you just just didn't just couldn't
help you out. You know,

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I couldn't. I couldn't touch you. And now that December is January,

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you are no longer qualifying for my
time, and it's fucked up. Like

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I've yeah, I gotta change that
habit, I think. But that's because

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Sean decided like he's fully one.
That's exactly why I'm embracing that. I'm

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just like, nah, So if
I have like no or yeah, if

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I have nothing lined up, if
I have like just intense downtime for whatever

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reason, like if there's a lull
in the summer or whatever, I'll go

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back and I'll see like, Okay, what games did I not get around

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to last year? But otherwise I'm
just like, man, I'm I'm gonna

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play Prince of Persia I'm gonna play
back in. I'm gonna play Persona just

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as these games come out. I'm
just not gonna worry about anything. And

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then if I have downtime, I'll
get back to some of that stuff.

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Yeah, yep, Live your life, Fridle Fantasy seven to two? Is

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that? Is that? This?
The next one is next month, Nikki?

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Because Square Enix they're being uh,
they're being sly over there. They're

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releasing on February twenty ninth. Really, so that way weary in four years?

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Yeah, weirdos. I don't know
anything about Square Nicks, but I

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know they love number. Shit.
Man, the marketing is going wild for

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that game. You see the green
comet that's gonna come our way like crazy,

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dude, Well they should send it
into space. They got there's billboards

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and stuff here in LA. They're
launching a comet. You can do that.

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Yeah, if we do anything,
now, that's that's cool. I

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think that's cool. Yeah, all
right, is anyone else playing anything or

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should we take a break and get
to the featured topic of the episode.

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Let's do that. Yeah sounds good. Okay, all right, we'll be

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right back. We're gonna talk about
some things of note. As you do

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at the top of every year.
Stick around and we shall be right back.

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Welcome back to BombCast Revengeance. Uh, there's a colon in there somewhere.

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I'm sure there's four of them,
at least on this show. Yeah

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the b I can add Collens wherever
you guys want. I'll make it happen.

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That's good, it's gross. Uh. Jeff Grubb describe what we're gonna

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be we're gonna be doing here at
the magazine feature of this episode. Yeah.

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Yeah, So Beck like, hey, we need a topic for this

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week. Why don't we just do
a prediction episode, like official predictions for

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the year. So I figured,
like to keep it easy. We'll probably

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mostly stick to the big three,
Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, But if

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you guys want to throw anything spicy
in there, feel free. Uh,

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we got we got the live chat
here. You know. If you guys

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have a specific prediction you guys want
to ask us about, use to ask

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a question. But we'll see if
we can get to any of those.

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Uh. But yeah, what we're
gonna do is we're gonna make some predictions,

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safe predictions and then outlandish prediction predictions
for each of these companies. So

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something like, you know, if
we want to be like, oh,

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the switch to might happen. That
feels pretty safe at this point. What

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else do you have in your back
pocket that you would either really want to

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see or you think would be could
happen. It could be really out there

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still though, So yeah, where
should we start. Let's start with what

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I think is like the most uninteresting
company right now? Sure? Yeah?

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Would you let's see if you guys
think the same company is as uninteresting as

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I. We're all going to say
at the same time. Ready, sure,

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yeah, three two one most interesting? Very proud of him? What

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just happened? We all said different
things, that's what does that happen?

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And also different things I said,
I said, Sony, Oh yeah,

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I think that's the correct answer.
Actually, it's okay. I think that's

406
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:53.799
the most interesting because it's the most
unknown. But what you are does this

407
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.279
lean into your prediction at all?
Jeff Or? Yeah, well it does

408
00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:03.119
because I just think I I just
I don't really see a tremendous amount of

409
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.079
like first party stuff necessarily on the
horizon, right, I mean, maybe

410
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.880
I'm looking over things. Well,
do you think it's possible that we like

411
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.079
they've been very quiet because they're gonna
have big surprises this year, Like,

412
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:18.640
isn't that possible? Sure, sure, I just know either. But I'm

413
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.240
I'm like, that's my optimistic stance, is that they've been quiet for a

414
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:26.279
long time, and that just means
we'll have even more to be excited about

415
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.680
when they finally start talking again.
I like your thinking, it's wishful.

416
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.160
I think I also think, like, to me, the most hype about

417
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.480
that company right now is a PS
five pro, which people are essentially just

418
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:44.480
like wheeling into existence, and it
doesn't feel time for one. From my

419
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.359
position, I think like you are
trying to juice something that doesn't need to

420
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.519
be juiced at the moment. Calm
down, you horny little weirdos. Juice

421
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.759
Like, why do you want to
spend five hundred dollars again, you fucking

422
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:02.680
morons? Like relax, just just
relax. Why are you so eager to

423
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.720
give five hundred dollars or your money? You couldn't find a PS five for

424
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.880
four years and now you're like,
well it's time for a pro. Here

425
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.839
we go. Take here's my wallet. Take what you think I should have

426
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.920
back, Like, I'm like,
mostly just entirely on the same page.

427
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.160
With you. I think people will
argue, I'll just trade in my PS

428
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.200
five and that'll get like me,
like three hundred dollars of the way there.

429
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:25.279
I'm like, okay, whatever,
I'm like, like, you're right,

430
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:26.400
I mean, and to be fair, that's why they do it.

431
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.279
They do it because they can keep
the prices high by putting out new hardware,

432
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.720
and we kind of I don't know. I think we saw the results

433
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.640
of it the last generation and it
just didn't make that much of a difference

434
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:38.839
at the end of the day.
I suppose it was nice to have a

435
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.559
handful more games running at a high
frame rate. Yeah, that's what I

436
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:47.519
got out of it. I'm I'm
happy that I was able to pill for

437
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.279
an Xbox one X off of the
fan out of the fan Bite office right

438
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.920
before the pandemic so I could go
free control. And then the world shut

439
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.960
down. And do I still have
that Xbox one X? Maybe? Maybe?

440
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.960
Who's to say, who's to fucking
say? But like, yeah,

441
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.599
I don't, I don't. I
nobody. Here's the thing that I really

442
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:15.039
don't understand. Nobody owns nobody,
which is to say, very few people

443
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:21.839
own televisions good enough to have a
PS five or an Xbox Series X look

444
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.000
as good as those things can do. So why are you going to try

445
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:33.799
to buy your your TV at home? Probably just goes at sixty fucking hurts.

446
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.119
Yeah, well, here's the thing. The way, like, if

447
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:38.519
you look at Luayn, Nintendo's done
it in the past, right, they

448
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:42.960
see that who buys our hardware?
You know that, you know, at

449
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:45.680
least at first, who's the people
that spend the most money on our hardware,

450
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.319
at least the ones they don't wait
for a price drop ever, and

451
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.880
it is the same hardcore audience.
So what they do is, let's make

452
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.599
new hardware for these idiots. That
idiot's name being Jeff Grub, and we'll

453
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.119
just get him to buy it over
and over again, and then he'll do

454
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.200
something with this old ones. He'll
sell it to someone else. He'll hand

455
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.319
it to a nephew or something like
that. And then now we got we

456
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.119
made more money by selling another piece
of hardware to an idiot. And then

457
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:15.039
he is going to increase our install
base because he's probably gonna give our hardware

458
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.480
to someone else as well, the
old hardware. So like, and that's

459
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:21.279
I think all these companies recognize that
the best people to continue to monetize at

460
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.440
all times. Is the most hardcore
of the most hardcore, But it's it's

461
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.680
how big is that audience? Like
how much that huge? But they will

462
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.759
spend a lot of money. They
do spend a lot of money. That's

463
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.799
like the top ten percent of the
people in like the PlayStation xbox audience probably

464
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:38.200
spend a significant amount of the money
on these platforms. I mean, like

465
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:41.720
the majority of people are not rich, right, we know this will be

466
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.519
true, right, So it's like, I just I don't know. I

467
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.960
need to like see more of that. I want to dig deeper on that

468
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:53.559
to really like understand what's going on
that leads me to where I'm at actually,

469
00:31:53.599 --> 00:32:00.400
because I want to know the why
of the PS five Pro because at

470
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.799
this point we basically know it to
be a thing unless something ractically changes.

471
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.079
And there's always a y for this
hardware. You know, people are like,

472
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:08.359
you know, rich people are gonna
do rich people stuf. They're just

473
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:12.559
gonna buy a new hardware. Sure, but there's always at least a justification

474
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.319
for it. Like what was for
the pro? What was it like for

475
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.960
PS four pro? It's four K
tvsky back. Yeah, you know,

476
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.680
in the PS three era. The
entire point of the PS three was blue.

477
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:25.640
Right, there's always like Sony in
particular, since they have their own

478
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.599
stack. Yeah, exactly, there's
always a reason. So I'm wondering,

479
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.720
like, what is the reason for
PS five pro And I wonder if maybe

480
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.279
it's gonna be a slight pivot and
may they lean because we've heard about this

481
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:43.240
ray tracing stuff maybe being better than
ever and made that niator. Yeah yeah,

482
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.880
so maybe they're just gonna lean hard
into that and say this is something

483
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.559
that you can't really get on your
PS five either. And that's like rough.

484
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.319
I think that's a rough position to
be in because the ray tracing buzzword

485
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:58.759
has already failed. It does not
work as a marketing term. And then

486
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:00.519
if you're if you're the is going
to be like, well, we do

487
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.200
really good machine learning image reproduction.
It's like that space is kind of already

488
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.359
owned by d LSS and it doesn't
feel like a great buzzword anymore. And

489
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:14.160
then to what end it's like,
okay, so we can upscale to eight

490
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:20.519
K TVs that people definitely don't have, and s a K is also a

491
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.000
bad buzzword because people have recognized now
I cannot tell the difference between a lot

492
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.720
of people are going to tell you, I can't see the difference between four

493
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.559
K and ten ADP. Everyone can't
see the difference between eight K four K.

494
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.359
There you and Jason, we're talking
about this this morning. Of like

495
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.000
a lot of people are like,
I can't tell the difference with ray tracing,

496
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:43.480
even though if you show someone screenshots, you have to be educated enough

497
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.039
to like a bad buzzword though,
if you have to be educated about it

498
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:50.160
exactly, and that's why it's not
great for which is why I'm wondering,

499
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.839
like what what is the justification going
to be? Because what letters are you

500
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:59.200
going to put on the box?
Because because I just looked at the I

501
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.480
just looked at the PlayStation five box
recently because I was throwing it into the

502
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:07.079
garbage can and it has eight K
on it? For what? Oh it

503
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:14.400
does it just k on? That's
crazy? Waiting Series X processor has eight

504
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.000
K etched onto it? What do
you mean? Like, if I'm not

505
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:22.719
mistake going to fucking get there?
The PS five also doesn't even support AK

506
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.440
output yet it's still not there or
did they do that? I thought I

507
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.920
thought it did it? Like but
like a lower frame rate. I thought

508
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:30.519
it was like thirty frames per second
eight K. I thought it just like

509
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.960
literally the ability of hookup to an
ak TV never came. I could be

510
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.599
wrong about that. I thought that
was still just like I mean, like,

511
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.679
who's even able to try that?
Exactly? That's the thing you can't

512
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.559
go about because you don't have an
a k TV, none of us.

513
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.280
I mean, it reminds me so
much of like UH, and the timing

514
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.199
of it is perfect with CS here, like this is all CS is.

515
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:57.920
And I still think at large,
the UH, the tech marketing hive mind

516
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.400
sees people as just like big number, be happy, like a bigger number,

517
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.840
bigger pro thing. It's got a
plus now, and like I think

518
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.079
for the majority of transactions, like
that's enough to get people over the finish

519
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:15.199
line. I really do think so, you know, with their spending,

520
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.440
right, maybe it is really the
thing that's ultimately going to bottleneck, whether

521
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.239
or not you know, someone like
converts on something like that. But it's

522
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:28.800
just as simple and as stupid as
big number, you know. So,

523
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.280
and this is maybe maybe we're stumbling
on a better way to have these discussions.

524
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:35.679
There are big things that we know
are coming down the line, and

525
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.440
maybe we could just kind of air
how we feel about all this stuff.

526
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.320
Right now we're talking about the PS
five pro. Let's just do a few

527
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:45.360
more questions on the PS five pro. Beck, are you said five hundred

528
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:50.079
dollars? There's a chance this thing's
five fifty or six hundred? Cool?

529
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:54.960
Go spend it you have? Okay, So over under. Let's I'm gonna

530
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:58.880
set the over under at like what
is it? Five on one? Is

531
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:05.159
where five hundred one dollars is over? I guess I think over also?

532
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.360
Now then you know I just threw
out five hundred there just to make a

533
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.360
joke, But yeah, I think
this is a north of five hundred.

534
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.440
It has to be over because they're
not going to make the PlayStation five cheaper,

535
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:17.360
right Usually when they put it,
they put it on sale a bunch

536
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.639
of times, but they're not going
to officially drop the price. Yea,

537
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.039
MSRP is not going to go down, so like it has to, it

538
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:28.400
has to be over, Greb.
If you have a memory of this better

539
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.079
than I do. PlayStation Direct has
never reduced the price on PS five.

540
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.519
I believe. I believe that has
all been retailing. Oh yeah, that

541
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.159
sounds right. Yeah, so it
has to be a five ninety nine machine,

542
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:42.320
like totally, yeah, I think
so. And this thing probably will

543
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.679
be like primarily available through direct at
first. I mean you could try to

544
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.320
get it through retail. I'm sure
the cost. I can't remember the leaks

545
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.159
chat feel free to chime in with
helping here, maybe, Sean, maybe

546
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.559
you remember is the PSI the PSI
pro is gonna have the disk drive?

547
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:00.199
Still, right? I think I
think so? Yes? Okay, so

548
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.000
yeah, then at that case,
I'm with you guys over. I think

549
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:06.719
it's probably six hundred dollars. I
think it's six hundred bucks. I don't

550
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:08.639
think higher than six. I think
six is the cap. Oh yeah,

551
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:12.480
yes, definitely, And if you
get it well, because some people are

552
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.280
saying like seven hundred and I'm like, I don't think they could go away

553
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:21.639
with that. The number seven definitely
won't be in there, I guess.

554
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.360
But also no way got chance.
And it's like five ninety nine seems like

555
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:29.920
the most that, uh, the
average person would not even the average person,

556
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.840
the high end consumer who wants to
spend this amount of money is going

557
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:38.440
to spend on a piece of electronics
to put in their home system. Yeah,

558
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:43.159
okay, so then we get a
PS five Pro. It's six hundred

559
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.639
dollars, probably launches much later this
year, probably over the holidays. What

560
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.519
what game do they pair it with? Like they're they're probably gonna want to

561
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.079
have something to go right away with
it. I fucking know it already.

562
00:37:52.079 --> 00:38:00.119
Fucking Destruction All Stars too, NAC
three. Yeah, Destruction All Stars two

563
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.679
an Act three, that's all they
fucking need. What's the ear game?

564
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.000
Or maybe that was never a game? Maybe you just take a picture of

565
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:07.840
pictures. Oh yeah it does,
Mark Serni being a weirdo. Yeah,

566
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:13.159
you just needed anyway. By the
way, they did implement that to the

567
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.679
not the PlayStation headphone stuff, but
the I think it was the end zone

568
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:22.679
stuff. Actually end zone stuff.
They moved it over there. It's kind

569
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.159
of funny. Yeah, but not
like this Bloodborne remastered. Yeah, that

570
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:31.000
would for sure. Honestly, it's
probably one of these new Horizon projects,

571
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:37.159
right that was the best selling game
apparently ever is the Horizon Uh so uh,

572
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:38.679
you know that's obviously after a lot
of sales and stuff. But they

573
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:45.039
believe in Horizon. So maybe yeah, like Horizon MMO project Ready Ago or

574
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.320
something like that. Would that be
from a different studio because we did get

575
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:51.840
the VR game last year for Yeah
Too. I think they're working with a

576
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.800
different studio on on that. I
just I just say that because Horizon seems

577
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.079
to be their big thing right now, so I feel I figured they maybe

578
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.599
want to pair up something like that. But and like something from Naughty Dog's

579
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.719
probably not going to be ready,
so they've already done all the remakes at

580
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:10.679
this point, so I think are
we in the crazy predictions slot? Maybe?

581
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:19.519
I think maybe Sony Pictures announces a
Horizon motion picture this year. Yeah,

582
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.440
they are making a TV show,
but I wouldn't be surprised that they

583
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.239
may also plan to make a movie. Oh yeah, they should do something

584
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.920
with that. I think maybe that
would be more interesting to me because the

585
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:35.679
act of playing those video games is
to me like pulling my own teeth out,

586
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:43.320
Like you couldnot you you couldn't pay
me to want to play those games

587
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:49.079
for longer than like fifteen minutes.
Our Wolves and Chain points out, And

588
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.639
this is actually might be right because
we've heard this rumor it could be the

589
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:57.639
Horizon one remaster for Yeah, because
they're going to do that finally, Oh

590
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:02.360
God, tell me say something.
I couldn't want. Yeah, like me,

591
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:05.760
me and Mike did a podcast here
and I we are We're talking about

592
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.599
the Dead Space remake, and we
were like, you know, more of

593
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:12.920
this is probably actually a good thing. When it's something older, something less

594
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:15.719
accessible, bring that up is always
a good thing. But of games that

595
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.800
came out in the past, like
five ish years, it's just like,

596
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.559
come on, you know, what
are we doing. Everyone who wants Horizon

597
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.239
has it, like that's already played
it, Like, yes, I don't

598
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.719
know. The newest ones of the
of that game are identical to the first

599
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.559
experience. It's not like this game
is evolved in a way that people were

600
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.880
like, wow, look at the
look at the journey Horizon has been on

601
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:43.840
you know, Like, no,
it's the same game. I don't know.

602
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.719
All right. So then before we
get completely office Sony, what is

603
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:51.000
the state of psv R two by
the time we are at the end of

604
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:55.079
this year in the trash can I
think, I think they I think they

605
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:01.199
release official PC support. I think
it goes down by fifty dollars, and

606
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.599
then I think they say we're good
on it. Actually, yeah, it's

607
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:09.039
gonna be the state of PSBR one
and the Vita before it's in the second

608
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.719
year where they're just like, oh, this was a hit, put on

609
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.719
life support and then we're just out
of here. Yeah, yeah, like

610
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:20.760
it's too late. It's so nuts
that they launched that thing with no like

611
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:27.239
with not like one triple a Sony
game. I think it's the most underdiscussed

612
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.400
shocking thing that they did in the
last five years. Yeah, how how

613
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:35.360
did that happen? So again,
like this is how I've heard it goes

614
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:39.039
down at Sony these days. Is
Sony Proper, not PlayStation, not Sony

615
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:44.679
Interactive Entertainment. It's really hot and
horny for hardware that they love. But

616
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:47.079
yeah, and they're like that's that
end zone stuff. They're like, hey,

617
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.400
we're gonna ride your coatails with this
en zone shit, so get ready.

618
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.159
PlayStation PlayStation is like, come on, guys, we have our own

619
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:58.039
stuff with all these downs, all
right, whatever, And what I've heard

620
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.960
is it was Sony really new PSVR
two. For whatever reason, it's like

621
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.559
love making hardware because it's good because
they yeah, and they used to make

622
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.159
a ton of TVs and like their
TVs don't sells well anymore. These make

623
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.760
a ton of cameras. The cameras
don't sell so well anymore. It's like,

624
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:15.960
well, put all that those engineers
on this stuff instead, but slap

625
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.960
PlayStation on your on your work and
it's going to sell. It's like,

626
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:24.039
man, PlayStation is a very delicate
thing where it's like that audience has very

627
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.440
specific expectations and PSVR two is just
not meeting them because the people I think

628
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.000
really behind that effort doesn't really care
to meet them. It'sn't even thinking about

629
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.440
that. They're just like, hey, this is a we are just using

630
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.079
the resources we have to do something
and putting PlayStation on it. And that's

631
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.960
what that project end up ends up
feeling like, so, yeah, their

632
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:47.360
cameras really not sell well, I
mean their cameras are they're pointing shoots they

633
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:52.000
used to be. But also like, yeah, their phones don't sell anymore.

634
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:57.320
But I feel like their SLRs are
like dominant in that. Yes,

635
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.159
but that is not making money for
them in the way that it's making Yes,

636
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.599
Sony's making their money actually in the
mormal imaging space. Sony makes their

637
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:09.880
money off of selling phone sensors.
Yeah, yeah, totally, and then

638
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:14.519
they'll just put those into whatever fucking
phone. Right. They have a couple

639
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:16.960
of good business like they also I
think working, well, no, this

640
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:20.119
is Samsung. I'm completing that,
okay. So yeah, they sell the

641
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.280
phone, phone sensors for cameras,
and then the business that really makes the

642
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:28.199
money is PlayStation, and that's kind
of it these days. They people always

643
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.719
point out they have a pretty big
insurance business selling insurance in Japan. Yea,

644
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:34.159
even that it's not making a ton
of money for them anymore. So

645
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.920
yeah, it's like that's why everything
kind of circles back to PlayStation, and

646
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.159
it's why play station seems like,
hey, you're on top, why are

647
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.639
you kind of acting like you're in
a corner, like raising prices on everything

648
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.719
and like looking for advantages to like
nickel and dime. It's like, because

649
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.880
they got to make that money.
But that's always been Sony's mom, And

650
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.719
I was, yeah, they like
when they're in first, they get cocky.

651
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:59.800
Yeah, it's always it's Hubris.
Yeah, like they just they're they're

652
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:01.719
like, there's nothing we can do
wrong, and it's like, well,

653
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:07.480
if you look at your own history, folks, the last time you were

654
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:13.119
in this position, things went pretty
bad for you. It's just really weird.

655
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.280
But I think the thing is like
they don't have like in Xbox three

656
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:22.519
sixty is not waiting in the wings, right, Like Microsoft is not going

657
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:28.440
to come out with something this year
that is going to shift the tides such

658
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:32.840
that we are having a different conversation
about them. But I do think I

659
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.320
transition to Microsoft because of that.
But yeah, we finish your thought,

660
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.239
please, that's it. I just
think that they get really cocky, but

661
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:44.519
I think the the odds of them
getting bitten in the ass for it are

662
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:50.599
low now. I just think it
just like turns into complacency if it would

663
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:54.199
have to just be a like series
of disappointing like their most most hard core

664
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:58.920
fans and they like right now the
fans are antsy about the lack of first

665
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.079
party announcements, but they're not like
it's it's not hurting Sony yet. That

666
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.920
would take a very long time I
think before they got to that point.

667
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:07.400
Those fans are worried about, hey, oh, you're shifting all this all

668
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.199
these resources to live service games,
but they are giving them the benefit of

669
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:14.559
the doubt, especially like hey,
Spider Man two, we really did like

670
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:19.119
that. Actually, so absolutely so
Microsoft isn't going to have a pro this

671
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.280
year of their own sounds like they
basically said that explicitly. I think that's

672
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.719
all right, So then sure,
what do they have this year? How

673
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.559
do they kind of get on top
of their own narrative a company that has

674
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:32.960
you know, I think it was
like, hey, we're waiting for Starfield,

675
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.480
We're waiting for Starfield, and then
Starfield comes out, It's like it's

676
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.480
got It is a bag, like
a very mixed bag, to use a

677
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:42.840
cliche, and that has that led
to it's like, okay, well that

678
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.760
wasn't the answer, So then is
that now the next game going to be

679
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:47.320
the answer. It's the same thing
for Microsoft as always, right, We'll

680
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:51.159
just wait to the next thing.
And when are they going to get out

681
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:52.960
of that rut? Yeah? Go
ahead, Nikki. I was just gonna

682
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.199
say, I wonder if the Xbox
solution for this year is actually not software,

683
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.599
if it's hardware. I do think
that they should release a PlayStation portal

684
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:07.719
style thing like that that roadmap leaked
right and there was there were no handhelds

685
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:13.199
in there, and how up to
date that is hard to say, right,

686
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.599
but I do think that there is
a two hundred dollars sweet spot where

687
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:22.360
they just get an Android phone off
of some white label and then slap controllers

688
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.519
on the side of it, and
they're like, listen, you can play

689
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.519
most of the games that are like
switch Path, like switch Power Level will

690
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:37.239
run natively on this thing. And
then yeah, I think I think it's

691
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:38.719
really important that some of those games
run native. And then some of the

692
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:44.599
bigger ones either you stream from your
big Xbox or stream from x cloud or

693
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:50.239
whatever. But like, I think
that is probably their move because I don't

694
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.079
what are they gonna do least another
fucking Halo, Like no, Like,

695
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:58.079
I don't know. It really is
troubling and weird. I think in their

696
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.679
effort to like, you know,
become this you know, gobbling up all

697
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:07.000
these developers and all this literally a
decade of it now of them just being

698
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:08.840
like, well, buy you when
we're gonna grab you, and like,

699
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.679
obviously that hasn't. I mean,
they're like the Yankees, right, Like

700
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.400
they buy all the best players and
they fail to win the World Series time

701
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:20.840
and time again. Yep. And
that started in twenty eighteen, just to

702
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:22.920
point that out, twenty eighteen when
they start started buying stuff. Yeah,

703
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.239
when they really started buying a ton
of stuff obviously. Okay, so no,

704
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.159
they bought Minecraft and stuff before that. But this like current generation of

705
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.519
like buying a ton of studios really
kicked off a twenty eighteen with those five

706
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:36.559
studios. I think, okay,
so the better part of a decade then,

707
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:42.719
yes, And I think, uh, there is something I don't know,

708
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:49.760
like what's the disconnect where Sony is
able to pretty much consistently and reliably

709
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:57.320
nail blockbuster first party stuff time and
time again and Microsoft continuing to basically,

710
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.239
uh, you know, fumble at
the goal line. I mean, Starfield

711
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:05.599
was not the flop that Red Fall
was. Oh certainly not, certainly not,

712
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.440
but but it wasn't what starter Field
needed to be. Though it clearly

713
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:12.480
was, yes, exactly, it
wasn't the answer to all of xboxes problems,

714
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.400
which is kind of how I think
fans were positioning it and really hoping

715
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.639
it to be. I mean,
I think it comes down like a lot

716
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.639
of it's timing, a lot of
it is the the commitment to seeing through

717
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:29.360
contracts, Like they put out a
series of pretty good games that came out

718
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:31.920
for PlayStation, like Death Loop,
like came out of PlayStation like oh okay,

719
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.800
so like that we're just not going
to count that one for you,

720
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.440
sorry, Like that that the problem
is the Xbox games, right, So,

721
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:40.639
yeah, you put out an Xbox
game on PlayStation, you're just not

722
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:44.840
going to get credit for that.
Sorry, they have, but like I

723
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.440
don't want to discount what they do
have going for them, right, they

724
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.960
have the best value in gaming for
my for my money. I still think,

725
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.159
and I think the development like that
the approach that they've taken where they've

726
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:58.639
had, like people are pointing out
High Fi Rush last year and I Pentiment

727
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.719
the year before, where they're letting
these studios try other things that are smaller

728
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:07.280
that is not happening at PlayStation.
If anything, they are eliminating that by

729
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.880
getting rid of japan studios and things
like that. So and you know,

730
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.400
I think people are like, why
is Microsoft doing this? And we're wasting

731
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:15.559
resources on that instead of doing the
big games. It's okay, Yeah,

732
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:21.079
they still Microsoft has a problem matching
Sony's big Triple A output, sure,

733
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.519
but they are making a lot of
different kinds of games in a way that

734
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:30.239
feels more sustainable long term. And
now that we're getting this point where like

735
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:34.119
hearing Spider Man three is going to
be three hundred and fifty million dollars or

736
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:37.000
something like that it's kind of looked
like maybe that was the right choice all

737
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.719
along, finding a way to build
a brand on a bunch of different,

738
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.559
slightly smaller games and having stuff like
CF Thieves that can last for ten years

739
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:47.400
and be really successful for a very
long time. It's like, I think

740
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:51.440
Sony would kill for a C Thieves, right, Yeah, So there's a

741
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.679
foundation there. I think the problem
here is the perception that what Xbox is

742
00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.440
doing is wrong and what Sony is
doing is right right, because Grub brought

743
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:04.599
this up there day on one of
the shows where he was like, it

744
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:08.480
does feel like PlayStation has won the
console war going on right now, but

745
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.960
now what like what does that get
you? Whereas, yeah, what does

746
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:17.239
that make exactly? Like core gamers
don't want to acknowledge them Microsoft expanding in

747
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:22.000
the way that they have been into
streaming, into mobile, into all these

748
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:27.159
different types of experiences. That is
what the future of gaming is. It

749
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.679
is, you know, all of
us playing our games on our PCs or

750
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.719
a high end Xbox consoles, but
also the more casual people just firing up

751
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:37.719
a streaming game, We're just firing
up a mobile game or whatever. And

752
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.920
like, I guess that kind of
plays into what Nikki said about like a

753
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.639
handheld and stuff like that. First
of all, I would like to use

754
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:49.400
this platform to say, hey,
everyone who's saying Series S handheld literally never

755
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.920
going to happen because it's physically impossible. The polery is out there, and

756
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:57.559
something that lasts longer than like ten
minutes on a bat yea, what we're

757
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.519
getting. We're getting like the fifty
seven hundred US, the very popular chip

758
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.039
that's in a lot of stuff right
now. There's some others along that line.

759
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.599
Uh, And it's like that it's
a really amazing efficient chip, and

760
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:10.800
it's just so far away from a
Series S R. The idea of being

761
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:15.199
able to like slap US an S
down into something that size and then being

762
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.559
able to have the same experience,
because that's what people are hoping for,

763
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.440
right They want they don't want to
like skip. They see the Series S

764
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:30.400
and they're like, oh, this
is like the size of my stick them

765
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.440
on. So anyways, that's a
little bit on the side. But I

766
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.639
think that's because if a lot of
people aren't looking at what Microsoft is doing

767
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:43.880
with partnerships on like mobile controllers and
stuff, you know, the kind of

768
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:47.360
like a backbone they slap onto your
phone. That is like part of their

769
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.079
strategy right there, is to get
you know, you can sell someone a

770
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:54.960
one hundred dollars backbone through a partnership, get them on game pass. Boom,

771
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:58.280
you got on our game pass subscriber, and we know that's what they

772
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.239
constantly want. And that's why I
think they have a good strategy as not

773
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:05.360
a traditional strategy. So people are
looking as like, oh, you're failing,

774
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.360
right, but they're looking at the
numbers like, nah, dude,

775
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.440
we're good, Like this is working, and I like that it's different.

776
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:13.159
I like that it isn't what Sony
is doing. I think I think it's

777
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:17.519
better for everyone that they have these
sort of competitive and differing strategies, and

778
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:20.760
I think I think they're good.
They're gonna We're gonna get to later this

779
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:22.280
year and people will be like,
oh my god, the PS five pro.

780
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.360
What is Microsoft going to do?
And I think Microsoft's position is going

781
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:28.440
to be and if they're smart,
they build a market, get out of

782
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.880
this, get a PC. Yeah, it's more powerful than that PS five

783
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:36.679
pro already and it's just gonna get
more powerful. And in a couple of

784
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:38.599
years, we're gonna we are gonna
have a news console in a couple of

785
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:43.239
years, and that's gonna come way
before a PS six seems like it might

786
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.920
come, and so we'll leap frog
them then with that hardwork. That's what

787
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:47.480
you care about. But for now, get a PC. It's it's been

788
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.960
more powerful than what the PS five's
pro is gonna be right alone, they're

789
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.400
gonna be. But I think they're
literally saying, get a PC and play

790
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:58.280
Last of Us one, like you
know, do that. It's so but

791
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:02.239
it's so strange that like they are. It feels like Xbox has in the

792
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:09.199
past been afraid to offer the personal
computer as a part of their suite because

793
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:13.199
they you know, they don't control
the store, right not yet, Why

794
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:16.760
do they just make a personal computer? And like this this this has been

795
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:22.039
in the back of my fucking head
literally for six years, because the idea

796
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.679
that there is not an Xbox PC
that I can go into Target and buy

797
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:34.079
that runs Windows, that like I
can like dual boot into an Xbox interface

798
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.400
and into a Windows interface. And
you sell this to people and you're like,

799
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.559
hey, do you know how you
go to school and you want to

800
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:45.440
play video game and you also have
to do computer work? Because you maybe

801
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.159
edit video or edit photos or whatever, you're some sort of like learning how

802
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.639
to be a creative person. It
is so nuts to me that there is

803
00:53:52.639 --> 00:54:00.559
not a seven hundred dollars PC that
is Xbox branded that does all of these

804
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:05.639
things and also can run Photoshop and
the Adobe Suite, like maybe change the

805
00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:07.800
name or something, but like a
surface Xbox yeah, like yeah, like

806
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.679
yeah, like some I did think
that's where they were headed at some point.

807
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:15.559
So I thought they're felt like that
was coming. Like we said that

808
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:21.039
they're not gonna like put an Xbox
piece of hardware into a handle form factor.

809
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:23.880
But what if they made their own
Steam Dex style handheld and it is,

810
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:27.920
you know, plays off of what
they've accomplished with. It has a

811
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:30.880
good version of Windows that's made for
handheld, which is something that they've been

812
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.840
talking about. Like so yeah,
what if that's where they actually do where

813
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.119
it's like, yeah, this is
your PC. You can just plug into

814
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:39.239
a dock and then it does run
your Xbox stuff, has the Xbox app.

815
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:44.119
Yeah. That's the beauty of their
strategy is that's so open ended,

816
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:45.960
and that's why I actually like that. Like Backler said, it's different,

817
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:50.840
it's different. Yeah, let's they
hit a couple more things on Xbox before

818
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:53.960
we do a quick Nintendo round up
that the games. So we didn't talk

819
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:57.519
much about like what Sony's gonna have
for games this year because we just we

820
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.239
really don't know on the game this
morning. This morning, me and Jason

821
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:04.360
talked a little bit about Ghost of
Sushima two. Maybe come along Ghost two,

822
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.239
that that could happen. We have
no idea. We'll probably here soon.

823
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:08.639
They got a lot of third party
stuff coming though, so they're gonna

824
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:15.000
be just fine. Xbox has has
a ton of games already announced, starting

825
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:16.599
with help A two, which probably
will come out this year. Uh,

826
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:21.440
but what else do you guys like
from like Perfect Dark Baby? Yeah,

827
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:25.559
avowed, where's that? I'm excited
about that whenever it does come out,

828
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:29.519
If it does probably this year,
it's gotta right. I think it's that's

829
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:32.559
a possibility. Gotta all these fucking
games gotta come out this year, right,

830
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:37.199
because it seems like it didn't come
out last year? Yeah, Like

831
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:43.639
where's Skates Story? Where's that at? Yeah? Show me that one?

832
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:50.639
Where's that that one? Mega Blocks
Halo game? Yes? That put that

833
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.880
ship out? I think those ones
are the most likely we should get updates

834
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:59.360
on Perfect Dark. That's probably still
a year away at least. Uh.

835
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:04.000
Okay, okay, what's the one
that had the steely Dan music in the

836
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:08.639
in the trailer Contraband, Yeah,
I would like to see something really at

837
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:12.079
this point. You give me hell
Blade two, which I don't know if

838
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.360
I'm gonna love. I don't really
love hel Blade one, but it looks

839
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.119
nice if you put hel Bay two
out, and you put out like some

840
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:20.400
games like do some shadow drops equivalent
to high Fight Rush, and then you

841
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.320
get About out this year, and
as long as these games are solid,

842
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:25.320
that's a pretty good year, as
long as we also get updates on all

843
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:29.639
of these other previously announced games.
Yeah, I kind of felt that way

844
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:32.039
last year and we didn't do much
a bit. So yeah, Fable right

845
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:37.199
exactly, And to be fair,
we saw About and Fable at Summer Game

846
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:40.280
Fest last year. So they have
that one that was Yeah, so one

847
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:44.320
of the chat points out you know
what, they do have potentially a big

848
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.159
game for the year called Call of
Duty. Yeah, they're gonna be fine

849
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:51.360
in terms of making money now absoutely
they're gonna make a lot of money from

850
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:55.599
video games, but reasonably speaking like
a Microsoft Call of Duty is not coming

851
00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:01.480
until twenty twenty seven. Uh,
like I mean, you know, don't

852
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.800
begin to be able to catch those
checks, you know. Oh no,

853
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:06.440
yeah, yeah, for sure,
for sure, for sure. But I

854
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:13.079
mean, like like a one that
is not dictated by the calendar that activision

855
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:16.199
has been running, Like Jack Call
of Duty game is not coming out one

856
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.400
this year, he's still under the
PlayStation contract. I think, yeah,

857
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:22.039
and then that'll be the last one. I think. I can't remember.

858
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:28.280
Yeah, Candy Crush two. Is
that that's them? Now? Maybe it

859
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:30.440
is. They will be making a
lot of money from video games. Yes,

860
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:36.199
all right, Nintendo, Uh,
we're I mean, we're all expecting

861
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:42.440
a Nintendo Switch follow up this year. It would be with this. Yeah,

862
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:45.039
they put the Super Nintendo Switch.
Sounds really good to me, man,

863
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:49.519
I agree, seems like that's the
most log like just just do like

864
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:52.639
I think it applies everything they want
to imply about it. I think,

865
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.960
yeah, and it's the same.
It's a safe one. It doesn't feel

866
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.119
like it doesn't feel like we you
where It's like it was confusing because you

867
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.800
have so many people who understood what
a Super Nintendo was versus a Nintendo exactly,

868
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.480
so I would love it, but
because it's so obvious, it feels

869
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:08.880
like they probably will, but don't
you want so? But so are we

870
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:12.559
all because no one calls I mean, I guess, I guess you do

871
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.280
call it a Nintendo switch, right, but you call it shorthand, you

872
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.800
call it switch called the switch.
Yeah, so what are we saying,

873
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:25.360
like the super you don't want to
do that, call it a super yeah,

874
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:29.760
but then like a shorthand, you
could just be like SNS two,

875
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:34.320
which is okay, yeah, you
don't want to do super switch. Yeah,

876
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.239
yeah, because I was I was
trying. I was, I literally

877
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.880
for fifteen minutes yesterday, kept saying
super Nintendo switch, Nintendo super Super.

878
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.719
You're just saying yeah, over and
over, try to activate myself. But

879
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:52.719
it didn't work because people will call
it a suit like. That's the fear

880
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:54.880
is if you call it super Nintendo
switch, people are just going to start

881
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:58.719
to call it super switch. Yeah
yeah, and that doesn't sound great.

882
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.559
You're right, it's like many syllables. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

883
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:05.239
I mean, listen, and I
think they also would be like the alternative

884
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.480
is super Nintendo, and we don't
want people doing that either, because we

885
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:12.559
don't want we want to keep the
trademarks and very distinct and clear right and

886
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:17.079
don't make things feel generic. Why
it could just be super Switch because the

887
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:24.760
nameline old platform is super Nintendo on
the actual console says super Nintendo in all

888
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.199
big layers like they want you to
call it super Nintendo, and then the

889
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.239
rest in the smallest things possible.
Chat you keep dropping your name suggestions,

890
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:34.360
and I'll ask these guys, what
the how they likely they think it is

891
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:40.639
the new Nintendo Switch. That's that's
what it's going to be. Here's what

892
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:45.639
I think. It's very unlikely that
that's what it is, because that would

893
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:47.639
imply it is just a pro model, and it's not. It's not going

894
00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:50.719
to be a proble, or at
least theyn't want position as a pro model

895
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.440
anymore. So I think they're afraid
of that. Yeah, like none of

896
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:59.880
this switch plus none of this,
Like well okay, what about switch to

897
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:01.880
No, I don't think they're going
to be a number in it. That's

898
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:07.320
what they've never done number, yeah, other than sixty four. Yeah,

899
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:15.320
but sorry, I'm sorry, but
that's not that's not the that's not me

900
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:20.480
being like, oh you got it's
like, oh that was a weird thing

901
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:27.639
that like everything was into at that
moment in Gay what was what was the

902
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:32.119
the code name for the switch was
it NX, And it was yes,

903
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:35.639
n X, Yes, that's right. And then the code name for the

904
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.079
WEU was cafe. Is that right? Oh? How do you know?

905
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:42.320
Are you just flexing that? You
know? I'm just flexing. It's one

906
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.320
of the situations where I'm like,
asking these things is a question to show

907
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:47.480
off that I remember these things.
You want to be games Jeopardy, you

908
01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:58.559
want to But the thing they were, those things were instructive about, like

909
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.360
towards the the experience that Nintendo was
trying to do. Right, Yeah,

910
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:09.400
this thing is redundant. Ideally they're
not doing anything new with the next switch.

911
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:15.280
It is just another one. So
maybe they do just fucking slap it

912
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:20.920
two at the end of it.
I don't know. I wouldn't be shocked

913
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:24.599
other than I feel like Nintendo really
likes be in a position where they're naming

914
01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:28.679
is so strong that it does the
thing where it was like, well,

915
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:30.280
every game is gonna have sixty four
in it, and every game is gonna

916
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:35.719
be like oh uh Ninja, Guiden, Dragon Sword DS. Every game is

917
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.599
gonna be a DS call like Colin
DS, and then everything's gonna be dream

918
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:43.239
Drop Distance or whatever because it's three
d's like the three DS. I think

919
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.880
that Nintendo is proud that their naming
conventions are so strong that the other developers,

920
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:51.000
other publishers want to fit into that
naming convention. So I think they

921
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:52.719
will be like, we gotta,
we have to flex in that way.

922
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:57.159
But I don't know if I also
don't know if that's necessarily a good idea,

923
01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:59.480
because then they try to do that
with the WIU and they're like,

924
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:01.639
oh, yeah, everything will just
be zombie you. Yeah. It's like

925
01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:07.800
you know, people say, you
know, I'm looking. I'm looking around

926
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:12.400
my shelf and my games over there, and I see a few this few

927
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:15.960
Switches games that have over they're physically
I'm like, you know, that's square

928
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:21.239
in the upper left hand corner.
You just add a super above the That

929
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:24.280
looks like some symmetry that it would
be like a dumb reason that it is

930
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:27.800
what I want. I do want
to be called Super Nintendo Switch same.

931
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.599
I think it's easy to poke holes
in it, but I also think it

932
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:35.559
makes the most sense today. And
then they could call the Super Mario gets

933
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:43.320
right there. Oh my god,
they're playing forty chess man. That's it.

934
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:45.920
We've got about an hour. Any
other thoughts about Nintendo. I mean,

935
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:49.440
because it feels like the whole like
switch to is gonna take up all

936
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:52.639
the Oxygen game. Okay, well
how about this METROI okay, game Pass

937
01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:58.880
game pas is going to be on
switch I don't think so. I don't

938
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:02.239
think we're there twenty four. We're
not there. Somebody's gotta fucking make the

939
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:06.119
backbone sucks. And here's why.
I know. Listen, this is not

940
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.840
what this show is. The backbone
fucking sucks. You know why because the

941
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:15.079
phone is too small. Yeah,
phone from get on my fucking phone.

942
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:19.800
That's crazy. Make a backbone for
the iPad or the iPad mini and then

943
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.559
talk to me. So they also
like they're flexible and I hate when it

944
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:29.280
feels like to discuss like that.
It's disgusting. Yes, absolutely, okay,

945
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:30.519
Metroc Prime four, I have a
bet with Mike. I can't.

946
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:36.800
Oh, Mike is insane on this
one. He thinks that Metry Prime four

947
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.199
needs to be a next gen exclusive. I'm like, you are out of

948
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:44.840
your goddamn mind. They're not going
to a Metra game platform that will have

949
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:47.079
only a few million units in the
first month. Like no, uh,

950
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:52.079
if if it if it primarily comes
out on the current switch, he's got

951
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.440
to buy me Marguerite Deville. If
it primarily comes out on the next switch.

952
01:03:55.480 --> 01:04:00.760
I got a Margerite. That's it. An entire takes his meal at

953
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:06.440
like I tried to get them into
a shaving bed and they were not having

954
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:10.960
it, trying so hard. I
don't need those flashbacks. I don't need

955
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:15.400
to go back there again. The
steaks are a forty dollars meal. What

956
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:17.440
are we doing. I'm gonna get
a drink. I'm gonna get a couple

957
01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:26.159
of margaritas. Will be sixty dollars
naked? Can we poler Is back along.

958
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.159
It's not about the money. It's
not about the money. It's the

959
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.320
steaks. The steaks needs to Margarita
bell. We're gonna get like Coco and

960
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:36.639
stuff. I want Mike to have
to, like burn a Disney item.

961
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:42.360
I want you to have to do
something else as as evil. I don't

962
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:45.480
love anything as much as he loves
Disney exactly. Well, that's true,

963
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:54.719
Uneven, Yeah, I said what
I said. I you also really are

964
01:04:54.760 --> 01:05:01.079
underestimating how much. Mike. Yeah, let's let's like, let's think about

965
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:04.679
that. I feel like it's not
is it too late to change the rules

966
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:06.920
here, I mean, if you
want, like it makes just I mean,

967
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:12.519
I'll escalate that that game isn't going
to be a Switch one exclusive.

968
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:16.320
That's easy, come on, of
course it won't be an exclusive to the

969
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.880
Switch. I think I think it
can still be exclusive. Why I really

970
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.760
do, like, well, it
depends on how they handle because that's the

971
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.960
thing that's a big thing we don't
know yet is how they handle switch games

972
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:33.239
on the Switch too, because ability, I mean, is it patches or

973
01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:38.679
is it seventy releases? Yeah?
No, right right, right, but

974
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:42.840
no matter what, even if it's
that he's here, let's hear's not here

975
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:45.039
to kick me out? Okay,
what else? But someone else is so

976
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.719
like someone on this podcast would try
to jump in like that, we don't

977
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:54.920
know. We Hey, I please
talk. Someone's like, I'm not touching

978
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:59.079
anything? Right? That was nice? Oh. What I'm saying is I'll

979
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:02.639
esc like the bet happily. All
I'm betting is that Metroid Prime four is

980
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:08.039
not a Switch one exclusively. That's
but it's a cross release either I don't

981
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:11.679
think it's a cross release. Oh
you don't think it's a cross well,

982
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.960
but but it's back compact to qualify
under that term. Like, I don't

983
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:18.239
think it's a switch one game,
honestly, I'll go that far. Okay,

984
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:20.440
yes, and I could get a
switch one game. Yeah. See,

985
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:23.920
that's that's where you're right. I
think when people look at it,

986
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:28.159
they will say that is primarily a
switch to game. Okay, and I

987
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.360
think they ook at it it will
be primarily a switch one Vince. No,

988
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:32.719
I'm convinced, no, no,
no, no, no, I'm

989
01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:38.400
on MIC's side because because you guys
are crazy if they already don't give a

990
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:44.000
bit about Metroid. Yeah, but
but but they've they're realistic about it,

991
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:46.239
and they're like, we need as
many people as possible to sell this fucking

992
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:51.239
thing too, because no one buys
Metroid selling video games, they wouldn't be

993
01:06:51.320 --> 01:07:00.280
releasing a Metroid. Well yes,
but that's why very means Demetro for some

994
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:06.679
reason. But yes, he's right, he's right, another fucking Pokemon game.

995
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:10.000
Like why is that matter? Yeah? Yeah, I mean they make

996
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.119
a lot of games still want to
sell shiny and impressive. It is like

997
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.559
this is the hardcore game for their
new console. That's why game when NINT

998
01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:24.239
cared about that in the last fifteen
years Prime when I can go to hell

999
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:29.679
except for back law. You're great
to thank you anyways, how yeah,

1000
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:34.320
keep that up. Flattery will get
you everywhere. Boy uh no, But

1001
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:41.000
like, what is this is the
situation that dire for Metroid Metroid A completely

1002
01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:46.800
garbage can we give? How did
for a game that probably has the budget

1003
01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:54.239
of Metrod Prime for It's pretty dire
all right? But but like metroy Drag

1004
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:58.519
comes out and sells three million copies, that's pretty good. Zeno Blade,

1005
01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:02.679
which is like over Bowl any other
Metroid game. Oh sure, yeah,

1006
01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:15.239
but it's getting better yea with thirty
two million units. Weird, weird life

1007
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:18.520
cycle. Yeah, like Japan doesn't
care about it. It's really is that

1008
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:23.760
what it is? It's small,
I understand. Yeah, they'd sendo game

1009
01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:27.479
so very well in Japan to a
very small audience that they all just buy

1010
01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:33.000
it so very much. So the
Japanese hate Metroid We're going on, don't

1011
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.039
care. They just don't care because
it was never popular over there back in

1012
01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:40.399
the day. It's not popular.
METROI Metroid one did pretty good in Japan

1013
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.680
and then none of the other ones
did. It did very okay because it

1014
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.439
was an FDS game. That's that's
the reason why it isn't. Yeah,

1015
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:51.079
like bizarre, I do want to
I do want to ask one more question

1016
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:56.439
on this specific topic. Yeah,
Twilight is Twilight Princess a GameCube game of

1017
01:08:56.520 --> 01:09:01.359
a week. It's cross play.
I mean people think of it as as

1018
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:03.680
I think of it as a WE
I think it's primarily a WEE game,

1019
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:10.119
and primarily it is exactly to WE. But because it was a WE launch

1020
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:15.039
people, let's be clear if they
position it as a cross generation launch game

1021
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.319
for the next system, Mike wins
the best. He made that clear.

1022
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:19.840
He was like he thinks people don't
think of it as a switch To.

1023
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:26.279
Yes, that regardless of that,
I completely agree that if if it is

1024
01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:29.399
a cross gende game that they position
as a launch game for the next system,

1025
01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:31.800
then Mike Manati wins the bet.
Okay. So you're saying if switch

1026
01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:36.000
To is like the winning platform for
it, if it's if it's equivalent to

1027
01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:41.439
and Twilight Princess, Yes, yeah, because that was my next question,

1028
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:45.319
right, is like Breath of the
Wild is a WEU game? Actually that

1029
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:51.399
this switch, And to be clear, I think that is still relatively possible

1030
01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:57.359
like that that could happen. I
just think there's I believe they are going

1031
01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:00.479
to get this game out this year
for the switch, and it will be

1032
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:02.640
the last thing for the Switch before
they announced the switch to officially. I

1033
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:05.840
think that seems right. That's that, and I know it seems kind of

1034
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:10.199
it seems a little crazy to people
who are like really big Metro fans because

1035
01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:12.800
they haven't heard anything about it in
a very long time. I think they

1036
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:15.359
will just sort of reset the clock
on it. It's coming out in three

1037
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.439
months. As by far the biggest
Metro fan around here, I agree,

1038
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.119
that's exactly what they're going to do. It is the fun. Did you

1039
01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:28.520
just say to me, oh my
god, that's that was way too real

1040
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:32.840
home. He and Mike don't like
hearing that, like because because he says

1041
01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:38.600
he he hates Super Metroid. I
never said that all the time to me.

1042
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:40.920
He says, I hate Super Metro. I think there are games in

1043
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.680
this series better than Super Metro.
That's That's what I've said. That's wild.

1044
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:48.199
Okay, Hey, what does the
GIMI think about Metroid? What do

1045
01:10:48.199 --> 01:11:01.239
you think about Metroid? Yeah,
in his fucking grave wherever he is.

1046
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.159
All right, should we get out
of your back, Lar? Yeah,

1047
01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:10.520
that's that's been great. I really
enjoy talking with everyone about this sort of

1048
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:17.760
stuff. This was a fantastic panel
of predictions, both wild and completely reasonable.

1049
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:20.439
Do you guys want to make any
bets? Beck, you want to

1050
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:24.760
show us how it's done? I
just don't know what. I'm like good

1051
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:29.159
to bed on here, Like,
this is really not something I've ever gambled

1052
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:33.439
on. In this day and age, you can type anything into DraftKings and

1053
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:36.439
they'll let you spend money on it. You know that's true. Everything is

1054
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:41.640
a prop bet in twenty twenty four. Here's the thing, right, I

1055
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:45.840
don't feel super confident or like I
don't have a horse in any race where

1056
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:51.840
Like you both are clearly uh PICKit
about prime for situation. But like,

1057
01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:57.920
I don't know what I would even
feel that out? Yeah, I saw

1058
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:02.239
it too, ny lock you this
this is the work. This is the

1059
01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:08.000
fucking work. Is there going to
be a Madden twenty five? In twenty

1060
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:15.680
and twelve or eleven, they released
as the twenty anniversary that Madden that year

1061
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:20.760
was called Madden twenty five. Oh
weird. I bet it's still called Madden

1062
01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:24.199
twenty five. Yeah, me too. I don't think it's twenty nine.

1063
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:29.079
Remembers that. I'll say it's called
mad in twenty five and we'll take the

1064
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:30.920
bet and back if it's not called
matt at twenty five. You have to

1065
01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:38.159
wear two pay for a day for
a day. That's it. That's it.

1066
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:43.039
Yeah, that's easy. What are
you by your state? Okay,

1067
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:45.960
no, to me, there can't
be anything higher. But we can get

1068
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:47.880
official pictures. Take in your new
employee, idea has today with a two

1069
01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:55.359
payof have an employee? I need
twenty four. I'm really wondering at this

1070
01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:59.600
point what hurts Jeff back on this
man is just like, oh, yeah,

1071
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:01.159
you can do it ever you want. What can we can we get

1072
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:08.760
you to go out in figure skates
and and do and do hockey and figure

1073
01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:16.800
skates. I can't, is the
thing? Yeah, yeah, I can't

1074
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:20.720
be. I mean I would do
it as a goof maybe somewhere where someone

1075
01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:27.079
could record me doing that, but
like there's too many safety hazards going on

1076
01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:30.399
there putting. I don't even know
how do you even use figure skates?

1077
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:35.439
They got a thing on the they
got a thing on the toe, but

1078
01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:41.720
I can you hockey stuff? Yeah, I'm sure you can. Figure dangerous.

1079
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:45.000
I don't know. I do like
the two pey thing, like maybe

1080
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:49.800
maybe I'll maybe I'll go to like
an open skate and skate around with yeah

1081
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:56.800
wire sweater. Yeah, I just
like film Dibb's face as you walk in

1082
01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:59.760
the room. Yeah, like that'd
be all right. And I'm doing this

1083
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:02.720
over fucking mad in the game.
I couldn't care less. If it's called

1084
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.199
Madden twenty five, you win.
You can come up with that restakes you

1085
01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:06.840
want for me if you if you
want to hurt me, you can.

1086
01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:12.520
I'm very vulnerable, So go to
town, Okay, can I can?

1087
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:14.800
Can? I can? You're part
of the bet, like your steaks be

1088
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:19.479
tbd y yeah, and feel free
to like take equivalent is that group?

1089
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:24.079
Where's a bald cap for at least
a day? Right? Yeah, I'm

1090
01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:30.079
not shaving my head again again,
Like, yeah, I don't think that's

1091
01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:33.000
that's fun. What if I like
the two pay and then just be like

1092
01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:40.359
you become a two pay guy?
Remember Jason Alexander did that for like ten

1093
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:45.159
months. Like I'm not bald anymore
and this is me and I'm going on

1094
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:49.920
the talk shows acting like I've always
had hair. I mean, look,

1095
01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:54.960
two pays should be more accepted in
fashion anyway. Oh my gosh, what

1096
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:57.800
is it? What is this little
that's pebbles, that's her little kitty cat

1097
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:03.279
for months? Now it's up.
How's it going to pay? Should be

1098
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:08.880
more accepted anyway, I think,
Uh, thank you for talking about this

1099
01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:15.319
marginalized community, you know, like
it's it's Larry David as our poster child.

1100
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:20.920
Uh, but you wear that like
Dan Reiker got propositioned by like one

1101
01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:25.880
of those Turkish hair implant companies someone, Hey, come out here, We'll

1102
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:29.920
pay for you to come out here. Yeah, and he's like, I

1103
01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:31.439
mean he thought about it, like
it would be very weird to show up

1104
01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:35.279
with hair somewhere. No, I
would I if someone could tell me,

1105
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:42.439
like, hey, going to Turkey
doesn't so much it is, for sure.

1106
01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:46.119
I have family marriages, they're better
at it. Yeah, yeah,

1107
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:50.319
I guess I would do that,
all right, I'll do that. Well

1108
01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:58.880
that's literally knows a guy now.
Yeah, so I would really enjoy if

1109
01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:02.840
I could go completely full expenses paid, I would do it, for sure,

1110
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:09.319
Scout. I don't care. I
miss I do miss my hair A

1111
01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:12.319
great deal like I don't. I
feel like I feel like we can make

1112
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:15.479
this happen. I miss my Send
this dude to Turkey, Send me to

1113
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.319
Turkey. I think I am Turkish
too a little bit, so that would

1114
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:25.359
be a double free. Yeah all
right, well that's gonna do it for

1115
01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:31.560
Bombosces. I might be getting my
hair back, and I also might be

1116
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:36.640
skating around with a two peg.
Literally flip a coin and you've got your

1117
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:41.000
answer. Thank you so much to
Jeff Grubb, to Nicki Grayson, to

1118
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:45.279
Turbo Sean, everyone playing along in
all the various chats. It's been a

1119
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:47.520
crazy week, but we will be
back next time. Hopefully jan Ochoe is

1120
01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:53.640
feeling much better. I have a
RESTful and recovering weekend. Please we'll see

1121
01:16:53.680 --> 01:17:10.800
you next time. Bye bye,
Steer