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Hey, everyone, it's May thirty
first, twenty eleven, and you are

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listening to the Giant BombCast. I
didn't even say it was Tuesday, did

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I take it from the top?
All right? Hey everyone, it's Tuesday,

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May the thirty first, twenty eleven, and you were listening to the

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Giant Bodcast. Doctor host Ryan Davis
joining me in the studio. I'm staring

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at him and his beautiful shorn Heights. Mister Vinnie Caravella, that's right.

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You look like you should walking around
knocking doors in your neighborhood and telling everyone

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that you just moved there. I
have to tell you this. It's by

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law. Hey, I just want
to let you know, just by law

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all the way through. I have
to tell everybody. Jeff Gersman's in the

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house looking as much like a serial
offender as he normally does. Great,

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yeah, no better, no worse? Okay, good? I ordered an

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electric shaver. Uh huh, I
call that given up. But that's uh,

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that's where we're at on that.
And Brad shoemakes hell. Waiting for

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Vinny to show is his guitar string
tattoos. They're on my prison his prison

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tats E three do man? Just
no fuss. No, no, no,

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it's it's it's because you know all
the to do before. There's a

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lot of must. There was a
lot of fuss. Yeah, but now

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for you, she really should call
it must and fuss. Should see my

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comb? It's real small own one. No, you're anybody earned I have

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a comb? Do you have a
comb? I have a a comb,

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comb, comb, comb. I
wish I have a comb. It was

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hard for me. It was hard
for me to buy just one comb.

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It was called like, here's five
combs and different sizes. I'm like,

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what do you what do you like? I barely need a homb let alone,

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an assortment of combs, brad combs, brushes, nothing, nothing at

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all. Uh. Probably eight eight
years ago I advised the hairstyle that required

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maintenance whatsoever? I kind of basically
I like that you you talk about this

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as though you would invent it.
No, no, I just have fun

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something that works for me. I've
discovered something amazing. The goal. The

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goal was to get out of shower
and towel the hair and then never touch

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it. Not gonna go into the
science of it, and I'm gonna boil

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you with the details. Years of
research and development. Check this out allions

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of dollars Lockheed Martin. Long story
short, I could fly with this hair

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combt haircut, but still you you
are due for an E three years it

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is, so let's start playing with
it. In the back. Is when

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I know that it has to go. It's getting brad shaggy. I wouldn't

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say it's getting like relatively relatively.
I'm trying to decide if I need to

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go get one more haircut before you
three. I think I'm gonna go get

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a haircut before you three, just
that I can make Matt Kessler also go

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get a hair cut before you three. I want to drag him to the

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hair cutter and make him get a
hair Yeah. I guess I can't really

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say no, no, no,
he can't. Patrick can. Though.

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I came in here and saw any
of this morning and declared we were all

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shaving our heads for E three and
Patrick was just like, which would be

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the best hair cut? I'd take
some of that hair? You take some

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Patrick's yeah, yeah, sure,
it's it's good hair. Yeah, it

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looks good. But he wouldn't.
He would not look good with a shaved

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head. You never know until you
try. He would not look good with

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the head. That's the thing I
don't there's some folks that you just you

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know. I don't think I would
look very good with the shaved head.

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I don't think I work I feeling
it would be pointy your head. Yeah

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you don't. I guess you don't
really know what the shape of your own.

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I shaved my head a lot in
that in high school, so I

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have a fairly good idea of what
what my head looks like underneath all this.

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I don't know, Jeff, I
think he could pull it off.

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Yeah, I don't know. Well, I think you'd be better like bald

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ding than bald. I think if
we if we gave you, like the

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the accountant kind of kind of reach
around thing, the little little horseshoe Lise,

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Yeah, exactly, a little false. If it gets to that point,

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I will shave the rest of it
all a false comb over. I

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don't think it'll get to that point. Do the Gallagher just long? Like?

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Well? I both is what I
mean. I want. I want

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both the dance make this watermelon smashing
motion yep, with long but also no

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hair. I started with ware kind
of trimming the hair, and then it

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was trimming my facial hair on with
a different buzzer than went up too high?

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Is that is that how this started
started? And then it's up Maybe

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I can fade it. Nope,
And then I'm walked out of the bathroom

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say does this look all right?
Just no? I was. So I

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was in the shower yesterday and looking
at my razor and I was just like,

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yeah, I'm tired of this,
tired of this ship I don't like

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Basically, I'm at a point where
my facial air grows slow enough that I

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probably only have to like really do
anything to it every four days. And

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I have this crappy beard trimmer I've
been using just kind of like stem it

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back. So I'm just kind of
constantly crappy stubbly. It doesn't look too

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neck beardy. I think I can. I can usually get it down low

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enough that it doesn't look too sloppy. But I just said, you know

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what, I just need to give
up on this whole real razor thing,

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and just to see if electric shaver
technology has advanced since the last time I

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tried it. I think it's acceptable, you know, acceptable, you know,

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I I think that like the quality
is good. It just always seems

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like using electric razor takes forever.
It always seems like like you're going over

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the same spot multiple time to get
it to the point that you want it.

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If you're gonna actually bother with a
full shave, that the electric razer

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seems like you always got to just
cycle and cycle and cycle. I get

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a lot of irritation from that too, Like it's you're just like grinding this

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thing in your skin. It sounds
sounds terrible over and over what you get.

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I don't know. I spent like
two hundred and fifty bucks on some

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Norrelco thing. That's the other thing. They're so crazy expensive and hold mine.

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It was, you know, I
was like looking on Amazon. They

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have this like line of different models. I got the second highest one because

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it looked like it has some kind
of auto cleaning cycle, and I said,

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that looks like fun. But the
other one was like it was like

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three hundred bucks. I'm like,
what what's going on? Isn't it isn't

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there like a crazy huge jump.
Isn't it like you can get him?

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Yeah? Exactly three hundred and And
you know, I wanted to get the

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I wanted to get something good.
I figured, if I'm gonna like judge,

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like, has shaver technology got a
new point where I can feel good

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about using electric shaver instead of feeling
like a total failure. Uh, then

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I should probably get like a good
one. So I don't know, I

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bought a good one, I guess, or an expensive one. I understand

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it's being advertised on television by baseball
players, so it must be good,

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Like that's the gold standard for this
was after the fact, this was this

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person. But I'm saying, like, like, as far as face shaving

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technology goes for your spokesperson baseball players, they have some amazing Yeah, except

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for that one guy. He doesn't
shave at all. No, and his

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beard's gotten crazy. I didn't realize
that he wasn't trimming it, and I

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saw how crazy that beard he's got. I think he should have be forced

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to shave his beard until he starts
pitching better. If I didn't have such

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a fear of them, I just
got a big straight razor, like a

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nice old straight But yeah, there's
a there's a there's a shop near here

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where a designer Alexis gets his hair
cut. That's all like forty's zoot suited

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out and the dude, I think
we'll teach you how to use a straight

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razor. I'd loved I just I
just every time I look at them,

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I just think of people getting their
next mistake of just yeah, cutting your

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own throat. Yep, most to
be the Italian and me. That's not

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a that's not a personal hygiene device. That's a weapon. Yeah, you

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might as well shave with a kitchen
knife. Probably teach out of shade with

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a kitchen knife too. Do you
think about a bayonet when you're in the

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trench. I think the last thing
i'd work like about like a tin can

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lid. Yep, busy guy outside, it'll teach how to do that shave

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with a stapler with the Staples,
Sure, why not? I don't know.

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Wait before a three? Are you
taking a Staples suitable? I'll be

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right next to the Staples center.
Shave with the Staples Center. That's good,

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you know, I'll give that like
a three out of five. Thank

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you that that was Yeah, it
was quick. Hey I'm not good.

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I'm just you didn't quite stick the
landing, but like nice provisation, got

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hurt. That's right, your knees
didn't bend back the other way. No

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point in my saying like Hey,
these is all this stuff. I'm just

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saying, like I can be quick
with it. Yeah, because you want

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something quick and serviceable. Absolutely,
I'm here. It's the job done.

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Moving on, say that on your
business cars, quick and serviceable. You

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need someone to say something from Beverly
Hill's cop or figure out some kind of

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shitty segue. Man, I'm okay, you could do worse. Dah.

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Yeah, we just got off of
a hot three. We're actually recording this

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on a Tuesday. Yeah, to
actual tues, actual test breaking, extra

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current. It is. It is
realer than real because three day weekend here

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in the States, Memorial Day weekend. Did you do anything for your Memorial

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Day weekend? I did. My
mother in law was in town with a

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yeah, so we did like San
Francisco tour, went to went to the

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THEATA. The wait the t R
E Theater. What's the cut off?

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When's the r E Theater coming to? They're live people on a stage or

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no, okay, JR. Did
you go see the Blue Man Group?

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Nope, so I might still be
t R E. Do you think Blue

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Man Group? Yeah, I mean
like low end. Oh yeah, that's

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still are absolutely so. I just
saw that they were in town. That's

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yeah, I don't think it was
a Blue Man group. How many Blue

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Men are there? Three? The
public appearances that there's three of them,

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right, but I mean there's like
a million of They could be anybody,

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right, Yeah, they do like
regular tryouts. That's not just a made

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up things. I don't even know
what they do. They're the Globetrotters,

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but with instead of basketball, it's
all like it's all found sound PVC pipes

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that make noise, like we made
these percussion instruments out of weird stuff and

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then we bang on it and act
bizarre blue. We should go see the

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Blue Man Group sometimes I've seen them, No, you've seen them? Yeah,

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I want to go see it.
I was a Capcom truck. Sounds

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like, yeah, it sounds like
we're in Vegas and hey guys, after

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dinner, we're going to see the
Blue Man Group. But okay, that

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very specifically sounds like a a female
pr rep really wanted to go see the

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Blue Man Group, and so the
trip became, let's go see the that's

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how I saw. Oh yeah,
that's that sounds about the right speed as

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well. Anyway, back to the
holiday, what did you see was something?

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Okay, Yeah, it was pretty
good. That's that's what you see

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here. Yeah, you bring people
from out of tens either that or beach

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playing a battle. They actually bought
the tickets and my wife and I just

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showed up. No, no,
no, that's exactly. That's the thing

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that you don't know exists, but
you're out of town. It's like,

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you know, going climbing the quit
Tower, going out to Alcatraz or whatever.

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It's a good show if anybody's looking
to go to the thoth Ra,

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you know which which theath Ray was. It was a downtown one field.

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It was near it was near the
Union Square, so it was kind of

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that's kind of the great districts.
Uh. Then we ate and then the

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next day we ate again, and
then we would did like the car tour

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stuff Mere Woods and Twin Peaks and
kind of the city stuff, and we

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went to Oakland. The oh went
to Oakland and found some good Mexican food

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in Oakland in the Mexican parts of
Oakland, which are fun, which was

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fun. So you ain't grilling,
no, no. Then Monday, I

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just totally video gamed it up.
Okay, that was the Saturday. That

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was Saturday, and Sunday and then
it was done finished. The case Smile

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was the book, although they today
just released the two. Uh, it's

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Naked City and those were pre order
cases. Okay, I already played through

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Naked Naked City, so my pre
order case I sell them been able to

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get or PlayStation three exclusive case.
Yeah, you can't get that until the

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stores back. Oh you you've got
the PSD version, but if you can't

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get any of its great No,
no, no, I mean I played.

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I mean it sucks because of the
cases. I played both versions,

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and PS three version is better.
It's a it's a great game. Also,

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now now that you know, when
once you get to that point where

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you're through the game, you want
to go back and play previous cases,

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I thought i'd go back and claim
up even the side mission stuff. But

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I think I'm kind of done.
Yeah, I think. But what was

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your reaction to the ending? Yeah, uh, it wasn't as I really

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liked the game a lot, and
at the ending I liked less. So

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yeah, the ending is off the
strongest part of that game. Yeah,

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so I really liked it. Yeah, it's not bad. It could be

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handled a little more deftly, yeah
than they do, but it's actually pretty

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a lot of stuff to kind of
it's it's kind of like but for the

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genre, there's a very genre appropriate
for irony. To the way it ends,

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it's more kind of perfect. It's
more of the way the ending is

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presented. It kind of happens a
little. It's all a little faster.

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I thought. The last scene it
feels kind of rushed, Like the last

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ten twenty minutes of that game feel
a little rushed. It was more of

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the last scene. I just wanted
a little more closure those I wanted those

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like title cards to come up and
be like he went on to go be

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judge of you know, yeah,
yeah whatever kind of Thematically, it makes

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sense. It's just not presented as
as cleanly, and it probably speaks of

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the character development throughout the game.
I just want to know what happened to

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the rest of those guys and what
they thought about the ending. I want

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to know what the characters thought about
everything. You know, Noir is kind

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of all about it was dark,
yeah, and then keeps that and discomfort

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yeah, kind of like a dissatisfaction
by the way things turned out. But

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but I really I don't know,
I really like when when that's when that

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game shifts. I became far more
excited about it and far more invested.

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like what what the hell, that's what's

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going on up Like I just knew
at that point, I'm like, Okay,

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yeah, this is they're really getting
into. Like there there's kind of

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this. There's a lot of kind
of facile noir trappings throughout that game,

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but like the deeper story once once
that switch happens about two thirds through,

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uh is uh is really really exciting. I should say that the post credit

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scene was actually redeemed a lot of
the ending for me. I like the

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scene after the credits, but that
actually tied up that filled. Yeah,

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a lot of a lot of story. But uh yeah, I had a

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lot of fun going through it.
Long than I thought, way longer,

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I don't remember, but it felt
it felt like I was never running out

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of like oh, this must be
the end and then nope, that's longer

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stuff going. Yeah it's long.
Are you gonna do you have interest in

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going back and playing playing cases?
Maybe? I don't know. It depends

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what the what they're like, how
they're sold to me, like what the

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description is. If it's just more
climbing up drain pipes and chasing down dudes.

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Probably not. How long is the
Naked City. It's it's it's length.

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that one cashed in beforehand, that
one did just integrate into my into my

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playthrough. Well, some of those
cases are longer than others, It's true.

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Some can be real. It's pretty
the Yeah, Naked City is a

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pretty significant one. It's it's substantial. That rock Star Pass is a surprisingly

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good deal. I mean, it's
it's four cases. It's like, you

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know, I mean, the guns
and costumes are kind of whatever. But

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even at four full extra cases for
ten bucks, that's a pretty good deal.

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I never got the other I never
got the achievement or the trophy for

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using all the weapons, which I
thought was weird because I didn't seem yeah,

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I just everything, huh uh.
And I just never got fist fist

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weapons. I definitely didn't fisted a
couple of guys. I didn't get that

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one either. I don't know the
weapons one. Yeah, so I don't

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know if it's a maybe it's tied
into some of the DLC. I'd like

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to talk to some of the definitely
people have it. There's there's a full

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list of like what the yeah,
the weapons are the weapons didn't seem like

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there are that many. Seems like
there are like four weapons. There's a

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couple that are very similar. I
think there's like two versions of Tommy going

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first. Yeah, there's I think
I got both of those with the round

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clip in that in that straight clip. Yeah, no, you're I think

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you're thinking of the bar. Maybe
I don't know. I tried to make

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sure I got everything. I was
just running through. I think there's a

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Tommy going with a magazine and then
the Tommy going with the drum clip.

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I'm not I'm not sure drum magazine. I'm not sure though, I don't

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know. Aside from all that,
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with it. Yeah, yeah,
I mean I'm all the way in for

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all that delC. I feel like
it's a kind of stop check out this

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game in terms of the where video
games are check it out. This is

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an important piece of video game timeline
right here. And you know, I

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guess we'll see in the future how
much of that's that plays forward. But

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genre bending, that game is going
to age horribly, you think, I

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think so I think I think the
technology and technology, I think the technology

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in that game looks amazing right now. But I think being like kind of

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first run, I have a feeling
that it's just it's just like two years

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from now you look back on and
go, geez all these It's like it's

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like you think everyone that has any
kind of faces in it will eventually go

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that route. So it'll just be
everywhere and that'll be the first example of

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it, and it'll look I don't
know if it's going to be that pervasive

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now. I mean, it's owned
by this company that made the game right

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right for one thing, So like
if I rock Star buys that developer and

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owns that technology, like it probably
be somebody somebody will iterate on it or

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that game. We can do that
like oh, just like we put thirty

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three camera fifteen cameras on their body
too. So it's the only moments when

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that stuff broke down for me is
when the few cases where there were two

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people that you were interacting with at
once. Uh, there are a couple

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of like interrogations where interviews where there
was someone else sitting there next to the

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person they were titled to and they
were just like they were sitting there and

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they're sitting right next to each other, but they were in completely different worlds

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just just like that, Like it
couldn't do just like the someone was saying

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something that would that would be shocking, and then the person would appropriately because

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they all acted about individually, right, Like, it kind of betrays the

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process they went through to to you
know, capture these performances of everyone is

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super isolated, which isn't a problem
when you're doing one on ones or even

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when it's just sort of conversational,
but when someone I think it's super hard

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in that in that sort of a
setting to background act. Sure, if

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you know what I mean, yea, when it's just like okay, you're

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gonna sit in the middle of this
room now casual, right, you know,

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like at least you need stand in
so there giving your prompts and stuff.

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Sure, but I think even more
than a technology, uh, just

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the format like is as in it, which is pretty much an adventure game.

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It's you know, it's kind of
the twenty eleven point and click adventure

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game. I mean, this is
like one possible route for that job or

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two to go along. So I
think we'll probably see some more of that,

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like like instead of just you know, Salmon Max next season, super

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realistic rabbit faces. Well, that's
the thing, rabbit, that's the thing.

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Like those guys are over there doing
the point and click thing still right,

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like that that's kind of the old
way to make an adventure. And

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it's weird because you did see some
of that in the Salmon Max stuff where

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there was one episode where you were
shaking down people and you had to see

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if they were lying or telling the
truth. So that's not that novel.

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But I felt like it was executed
really well, and I thought nothing ever

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seemed completely contrived with the notebook and
all that stuff. I thought the whole

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thing was just very well done.
But but it I mean, it does

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have like five tricks like that game. Yeah, it boils down to a

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handful of idea conversation scenes collecting evidence
yea, like you know, the first

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person shooting and chases and stuff like
it's a yeah, it's a small actually

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a car chase, the car following, the foot chase, the fist fighting,

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like actually thought those parts were part
of the weakest the actually bits.

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I think it's presented so well that
I'm exciting to watch. Even though it's

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not mechanically converse, it's it's it's
whenever someone says, like does the how

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can you prove that I was there? That's that's when the like FMV game

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part of surface video pauses for a
second and well, what do you think?

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But actually, evidence do you have
make my music video? I actually

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did appreciate though when you hit lie, they would set up exactly what evidence

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you need to uh, do you
have evidence that I was the one who

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made this bill to go to the
thing too? Because a lot of times,

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I know you proved that I was
there. A lot of times I'd

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hit lie, thinking I have a
piece of evidence, and then they'd stayed

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exactly the two sides of like,
oh no, I don't have that at

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all. I don't have something.
Yeah, I'm not like you have the

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pair of my torn panties that I
stuffed it right, So like i'd have

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a piece of evidence that was like, had I have this guy's testimony that

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says you were totally there? And
then they you'd hit lie and the guy

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would be like, well, do
you have a ticket that says that I

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was at the theater? I don't
think it gives that it doesn't get but

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it at least name the item.
No. But but they always at least

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direct, Yeah, what we're trying? Yeah, what what the two sides

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are? And I boned it up
a lot of times on how many times

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did you turn off your system?
About four? Especially towards the end I

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actually powered I hate quit. I
was pause it and go to quit and

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then resume. That's what I did, and it pops you straight back into

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exactly where you were. Well,
sometimes you have to sit there all.

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You can't skip all at the beginning
of that conversation, but it checkpoints every

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time you get to a new way. I usually I usually did it once

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I started and up repeatedly, like
two wrong in a row. And then

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I was like when I when I
got to three, when I was just

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like, I'm killing I'm just doing
awful here. This is the worst.

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And and it's you know, there
are you just feel like because they're the

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there are the interviews where it's like, all right, I'm just gonna ask

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this guy like two questions. He's
kind of an incidental witness or information source.

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But it's when you get to like
the proper suspects where there's like six

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questions you're gonna ask this dude sucked
up. Like half of them are like,

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oh, I don't care if I
with like you know, I get

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zero out of two on you know, the bartender or whatever. I'm like,

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all right, I'll make up the
difference later. It's no big deal.

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But when then you get those music
cues, it's just oh, barn

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Burnand but you're right, you're right. I definitely became super tuned. We're

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talking about this last week, the
little two notes, a little harmony that

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comes up, we get it right, and like, oh thank god,

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Yeah, no, that stuff is
good. I burned through all my intuition

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points as well. And you should
kind of save those up a bit,

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I think, yeah, because you
can't grind them there if there's a set

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number and you can get in the
whole game. Yeah, And I was

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down to just one and then zero
of the entire time at the end there,

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and they get burned through them too
quickly. But when you go back

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to cases, you'll have full five
when you when you when you replay when

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you which you know, when you
get to earlier cases, you couldn't have

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even had five intuition points at that
point. And so I'm super excited for

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more deals for that game. I'll
play as many cases as they put out.

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I you know, say what you
will about kind of the overarching narrative,

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although again I think that they capture
like the namesake of La Noir.

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That game is entirely totally and and
some pretty and they pay homage to some

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of the greats and some really specific
but still very inventive ways with with kind

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of the overarching plot. It's it's
just terrific. Somebody's saying that. I

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won't say which case even though it's
not it's not critical to the main storyline,

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but the there's a case where the
name of the case is also the

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name of a fairly well known movie
of that genre, and they're both about

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the exact same thing. I feel
like there are a couple of yeah,

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there's I mean, you know,
the Big Sleep is on half the marquees

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of the theaters in town, like
they they are winking and nodding at you

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about that stuff constantly. I feel
like the longer I wait to play the

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game, the better experience I'm going
to have, because they keep releasing all

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this stuff that integrates into the stories. Yeah, that's the part that.

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Yeah, if you wait till like
all four of those cases around and then

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play the game, I mean,
that's gonna make it that much longer.

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I don't know how you feel about
that, but if it's not good,

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that's fine. I think more than
any of the Yeah, I mean I

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wish I could have those the yeah, other three integrated because having just Naked

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City in there are like, oh
bonus, I know that my you know,

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play through here is going to be
just a little bit. And that

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case is great. That case is
a lot of fun. It. It

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pulls in you see a lot of
like kind of returning characters from from past

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cases. Uh. So, it's
it's got some continuity to it. It's

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just so I hope if, like, if that's the standard for the DALC

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cases, I'm excited to see what
the other ones are. Like the last

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case it's called Reefer Madness. I
know, I can't wait. I'll see

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what that is. Uh it's a
vice case. Uh. The I think

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the main story throughout the whole thing, that the larger narrative. Yeah,

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I thought it was really powerful.
I thought it was a very mature,

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very kind of well and convoluted,
Like there's a lot there's a lot of

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moving parts to that, but every
single part ties into it. There's nothing

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that you were shown in that game. Uh you know the individual cases,

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a lot of them are just like
that's that's an isolated case. But like

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all the character development, all that, you know, all the weird flashbacks

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stuff, like all the kind of
side stuff that they show you like it

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all happens for a reason, and
it all tied. Like going back and

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replaying older cases and seeing some of
that stuff, I was shocked to realize

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how much is time in Yeah.
I just thought it was like an adult

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piece of content done well. Yeah, and not not with like blood and

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boobs, like like this is there's
blood and boobs. There's plenty of blood

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and there are plenty of boobs.
There blood bloody boots. There are plenty

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of bloody boots. It's the only
time there are boobs. Awesome, they're

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bloody. But but I think it's
done. It's done tastefully, and it's

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all it's all given like the appropriate
gravity. Yeah. And and that story

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is pretty heavy. It's a it's
a pretty it's good stuff. Yeah,

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00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.079
it's really good. Yeah. Uh
And so then I switched Scars and went

407
00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:36.599
back to the Witcher One. And
how's that treating? How how are the

408
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:38.599
novels? I haven't started it yet? What? Yeah, we got to

409
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.480
read the books before you play the
game. It's not gonna make any sense.

410
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.319
He's in the original Polish. I
mean the first the first I need

411
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.400
to go through and brush up on
my posis Polish. Yet, well,

412
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.880
I'm working on. None of this
is going to make any sense to you.

413
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:53.119
First, I need to go to
pol I mean those books were not

414
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:56.960
written as promotional material for this game. No, it's books first. Yeah,

415
00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:00.559
they existed, and so somebody,
I don't think you got these are

416
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.200
exempts for mockery. I think because
of that, So somebody, somebody I'm

417
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:10.920
mocking Ye, I'm mocking Vinny for
his need to player. There are two

418
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.240
things that put the books on a
bit of a hole. I also want

419
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:15.880
to want to clear the air here. I'm not making fun of the Witcher

420
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.559
One either. I understand it's a
very great game and and very liked.

421
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:25.880
It's just this is Vinnie's habit of
going down these crazy rabbit holes. Which

422
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.319
which of completionism? Which are which
I like? Which are is good?

423
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.960
How much time do you spend with
The Witch. I spend it's probably another

424
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.920
five or six hours this weekend with
it. That cames cool. It's it's

425
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:41.400
a it's I'm playing it for the
story, not really so much for the

426
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.240
gameplay, because I do think there
are better versions of that gameplay. It's

427
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.160
dense. It is gameplay is dense
in that game. But I'm enjoying it.

428
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.000
Uh, And I'll get to the
books at some point. Apparently only

429
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.160
like two out of five have been
translated, so I kind of, Yeah,

430
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:57.920
I kind of took a little wind
out of my sales. Plus when

431
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:03.759
somebody told me that the books are
in the same universe, same character and

432
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.079
stuff, but it's not like a
retelling. The game isn't isn't a version

433
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.759
of the books made me feel like
it would give me a little more time

434
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:12.559
to be like, well, I
can always go back and read these I'm

435
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.400
not if I play the game,
I'm not gonna spoil the book, or

436
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.240
if we read the book, I'm
not gonna spoil the game. A lot

437
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:21.079
of flights and car trips coming up. I know you mean they're not retellings,

438
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.279
yeah, or the book or the
games and retelling I want to understand.

439
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:29.519
Yeah, So yeah, it seems
like that universe is fleshed out really

440
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:33.240
well, and I can't wait to
really dive into it. But I know

441
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:34.839
as soon as we come back from
E three, there's so many other games

442
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.720
that that's the only thing that worries
me. Spending time playing the Witch er

443
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.759
one and then looking forward to playing
the Witch or two when just this barrage

444
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.599
of games are going to come out, Well, then he don't worry because

445
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:51.880
after that barrage is a two month
wasteland. Just true. Yeah of no

446
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:57.119
releases. Yeah, July and August
looking pretty pretty slim like old school.

447
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:02.519
Yeah, like school. July and
August. When when does Madden come out?

448
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:10.079
That ass? Yeah, that's usually
that's when everyone goes back to school.

449
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:11.599
That's when people start selling games again. They announced their Hall of Fame

450
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.960
edition for Madden today. Does it
come with a football? No? Does

451
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:22.039
it come with because of football phone? I would totally football phone. It

452
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:27.480
comes with some autographed card and foil
cover. Who's the cover, who's the

453
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:33.519
cover artist the cover football iss ball
artist? I don't, I don't remember.

454
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.079
I think it might even be a
different guy on the Hall of Fame

455
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.160
edition. So who gets injured Finn
if there's two. Well, I think

456
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:48.559
that everyone is no longer playing everyone
Marshall Fall or something anyway you could they're

457
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:51.960
doing. They're doing some very interesting
stuff. It's one of the things I

458
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.640
saw during my week out was was
Madden and you know, it's like a

459
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.920
lot of it, chunks of it
were lost on but it seems like they

460
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.480
really are going for it this year, even though there might not be any

461
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.319
real football. It seems like they're
kind of using that as an excuse to

462
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.920
do a lot of stuff to that
game that they might not do on an

463
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:15.400
annual basis. Landlines or Mutants.
Yeah, so now they're they're so they're

464
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:19.599
they're redoing like camera stuff in that
game pretty intensely. They actually showed that

465
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.599
they were motion capturing a guy on
like a fifty yard field and this guy's

466
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:27.319
like an NFL Films dude with like
a camera rig that's got a monitor showing

467
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:32.039
the game on it. So he's
like filming guys running out of the entrance

468
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:36.799
tunnels and stuff, and he's like
they're and they're just dropping his camera data

469
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:38.920
directly into the game. Weird.
I thought that was pretty cool. That's

470
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:42.480
interesting. She just trying to get
it to look more like NFL film stuff.

471
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.279
So he's got he's got a problem
with that that should always look he's

472
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:51.559
got like gyrosculpture track so it's always
where in the world it is and all

473
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:53.440
that stuff. So they're capping that, which I thought was really neat.

474
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.480
That's interesting. So it's like,
you know, they said there was some

475
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.799
case of like him, like getting
out of the way of players running at

476
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.920
it and stuff. That's interesting.
That's exactly what you want him to do.

477
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.440
Yeah, it sounds like they're doing
a lot of cool stuff without game

478
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.240
this year. No clip through,
Uh do you so? So yeah,

479
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:15.400
obviously has to have separate deals then
with the NFL and the Players Association.

480
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:19.000
Yeah, I think that's still separate. Those are separate deals, I think.

481
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.519
Well, I mean, LA imagine
they have to be, because I

482
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.599
mean, that's where the beef is
coming from, right is between owners player

483
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:27.519
you know, the deals are the
deals. I don't know, I know,

484
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.720
I'm just wondering how, you know, how the potent, how the

485
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.880
the lockout is going to well,
I think you know, it would probably

486
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:42.240
affect stuff like roster updates if there
are no rosters to update. Sure,

487
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.559
you know, they would have to
kind of launch with Well, I was

488
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.160
thinking more just like like kind of
broader big picture, like you know what,

489
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.440
how this would affect their ability to
change things or tweak things about the

490
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.519
the game on a larger scale.
Well, yeah, I mean I think

491
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:01.799
yeah, it definitely. You know, they would have no real league to

492
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.400
react to, so if they wanted
to go, like, Okay, this

493
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.960
player is suddenly having a breakout season, we need to make it better.

494
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.279
Like they don't have to worry about
that. Like, it's probably almost better

495
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:13.960
in some weird way, more liberties
for them, right because they just get

496
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.160
to like make it right once and
then don't have to sit there and sweat

497
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:21.039
that stuff. I don't know,
but you know, did to hear them

498
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:22.119
describe it. It's like, you
know, they're kind of like planning for

499
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.599
the worst case scenario, Like if
there's no football, this game is still

500
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:28.720
gonna be awesome. If there's no
football. Fans, there's no football,

501
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:30.880
they charge ninety dollars a copy,
Well that's from the Hall of Fame,

502
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:38.160
additions, basic edition of that game. Want football this year? Just what

503
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:44.480
Madden? That's what Arena football?
Or they just do XFL's coming back one

504
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.519
season only they should do an alternate
universe Madden like for this year if there's

505
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:55.079
no football, like imagine if robots
and mutants. Yeah, they should just

506
00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:02.279
do that anyway, you know it
imagining. Okay, keep going one robot,

507
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:07.119
he's got tak trips. Save it
for NFL blitz. Is that coming

508
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.839
back? Yeah? Does that?
Did that have played? You mean blitz?

509
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.440
No? I think I mean NFL
Blitz. Yeah, yeah, we'll

510
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:21.400
see MLB blitz. Yes, we
couldn't get the players. You couldn't get

511
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.519
NFL players, so check it out. That would be that would be the

512
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:34.440
group the bestz just all hockey players
that in MLB. Yeah, just all

513
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.240
right, we bought we put baseball
players. What if baseball players had to

514
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.279
play football? Well, we've got
all these other stats. I guess we'll

515
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.720
figure out how to translate those into
these stats. Great FACEALC Sabathia would play

516
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:53.480
something like this, just guys like
like self pitching the football and receivers.

517
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:58.480
I'd play that game. Yeah,
I'll play that game. Quiet are usually

518
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.039
asking we should give football players based
ball bats, because because I am in

519
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.920
no, give the baseball players baseball
bats and put them in a football and

520
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:06.920
put them on the field. Well, yeah. I mean, I don't

521
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:07.840
care the guys who know how to
use them. I don't care where their

522
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:10.400
players are coming from. Let's get
let's get inmates and put them on a

523
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:13.599
football field and give them baseball bats. All right, now, you're onto

524
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.559
sometimes I'm talking about the next great
American sport. Is what I'm talking about.

525
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.679
God damn it. Whatever team win
gets parole. That's right. Oh,

526
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:25.559
thrash ball. Thrash ball right now, this is how it happens.

527
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.760
This is how it happens. NFL
strike, NFL strike, And it's just

528
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.840
like you know, Sunday in the
park pick up league games of thrash ball

529
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:40.079
twenty eleven due to the NFL strike. What if we put spikes on these

530
00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:46.079
paths at halftime? Cars would enter
the field. We need something more extreme?

531
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.119
Can we make this game take place
in twenty xx? We might take

532
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.880
place in twenty xx and it happens
on a mountain of burning amplifiers. I

533
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.639
love this game. This is what
you saw. This is what they wanted

534
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:02.119
the show. No, this is
T shirt guns that killed. I cannot

535
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:07.960
talk about some of the other things
I saw, Jeff, what can you

536
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:12.519
talk about? Oh God, it's
so what do you want to talk about.

537
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.719
Yeah, it's well, you know, today was the day for the

538
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.639
Call of Duty Elite reveal, yes, which caused a bit of a kerfuffle.

539
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.000
Yeah, I think we can call
it a kerfuffle. Sure, I

540
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.119
think it's it's reached kerfuffle status.
Do you think Do you think it at

541
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:28.639
any point got to Donnie Brooke.
No, it hasn't quite reached Falan Donnie

542
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.280
Brooke yet. Waggle. Oh,
it's well, yeah, I think i'd

543
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.119
say it's it's it's yeah, it's
past boondoggle, past boondoggle. I feel

544
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.679
like Boondoggle is way past kurfuffle man. You think, yeah, I think

545
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.559
you probably. I think it probably
because that boon Dooggle is only a couple

546
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.320
of steps away from food Bar.
Yea, that's the It's not it's not

547
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.920
Foo Bar, because at the end
of it, it's it's people kind of

548
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.760
freaking out about half the story or
or kind of being willfully ignorant about what

549
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.159
Call of Duty Elite. Actually,
I don't even know which part you're talking

550
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.800
about being freaked over, because there
was the whole like Wall Street Journal and

551
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:07.119
Bargo breaking Well wasn't that wasn't even
Embargo's being broken Journal had the exclusive yesterday

552
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:15.360
and and that story you know by
people being written by the Wall Street Journal

553
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.280
sure was more focused on the business
aspects of this being a subscription based service,

554
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.559
so it didn't necessarily put, you
know, it put in the spotlight

555
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.920
that this actually doesn't change anything about
the way you play Call of Duty today.

556
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.760
And that's the thing, you know, if you just want to play

557
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:35.360
that game on the internet and shoot
people and then buy mat packs or not

558
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.719
buy map packs like that, Modern
warphare three still functions exactly like that,

559
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:43.360
And then they're building this additional service
around it, some of which will be

560
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.679
free, uh, some of which
will be not. So it's like they're

561
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:51.199
building basically I mean, you know
how Bungee handles stats for Halo, I

562
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.119
think so like they have they have
a whole site full of heat maps and

563
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:59.039
game viewer and all this crazy stuff
that's totally free, and it's awesome,

564
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:00.519
you know if you're in Halo,
like it's it's killer, Like you go

565
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.719
look at it, you're like,
oh man, it's all kind of comparable.

566
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.760
To take it back to the Battlenet
stuff like as far as stat tracking

567
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:09.719
and replays and things of that nature, Yeah sort of. Yeah, I

568
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:15.400
mean, you know, neither neither
service really offers like full on replay capability

569
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.840
from the site or anything like that. But so this, this subscription service

570
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.920
doesn't necessarily affect any of the gameplay. It's more of a meta layer on

571
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.000
top of right, It's a layer
on top that you know, like,

572
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:30.039
like I said, they haven't necessarily
been too clear about where they're gonna draw

573
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.079
the line as to what's free and
what's not. What's probably compounding some of

574
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:36.280
this, you know, they don't
they don't really have their shit together for

575
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.199
this announcement. Yeah, talking to
you about it some this morning, it

576
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:43.159
sounds like they're figuring out where that
line is. Yeah, so it's like

577
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.280
they're there. All they're saying is
that it will be priced lower than comparable

578
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.159
services. And I look at like, well, what are what are comparable

579
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.800
services? And you look at like
this. Okay, So this basically takes

580
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:57.400
the stat tracking stuff from what Bungee's
done, which is free. It takes

581
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.280
kind of the group functionality from something
like Steam, which is free. And

582
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:07.280
then if you are a subscriber,
you will also get access to all the

583
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:14.719
map packs which are not free with
your subscription. Yeah, it sounds like

584
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.159
it'll be at release. I think
they should probably just give them to subscriber

585
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.360
as a week early or something like
that. Like the people willing to pay

586
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.440
that fee, like, you know, it doesn't split the player base for

587
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.599
very long. You know, those
people would probably be the people that would

588
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.800
you know, be most likely to
care about that sort of stuff and go

589
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.320
from there. But that's a good
bonus for people who are way into call

590
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:36.840
of duty. Yeah, I think
that that at that point, I think

591
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.559
it makes this the service even it
makes the service attractive because right now,

592
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.119
for me, if they don't,
if they charge any more than what those

593
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:45.639
map packs cost on their own,
they're charging too much. You figure,

594
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.280
they do three map packs over the
life of Modern Warfare, three so that's

595
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:55.000
forty five bucks right there. But
you know, anytime I say to anyone

596
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.239
they shouldn't charge more than that,
they look at me like I'm crazy,

597
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.159
And they're going to charge five bucks
a month, don't be stupid, which

598
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.039
I don't. You know, they
haven't announced it, but that that seems

599
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.280
like a likely scenario. I guess
I'm not even sure that that a monthly

600
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.599
makes the most sense, right Like, like idet all the money up front.

601
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.920
Of the big part of what they
want to do with this on a

602
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.679
business you know, I'm sure from
a business perspective, is get all that

603
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:22.519
map pack money out of you on
day one while you are pumped about Call

604
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.840
of Duty and yeah, and locking
you into buying all three map packs because

605
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:30.079
and then locking you into maybe not
selling back your copy of the game used

606
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.719
because because you've paid for this year
of stuff. Also, for every person

607
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.880
who gets that stuff up front,
that is one hundred and five dollars per

608
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:42.800
sale instead of sixty or or or
whatever car with night vision scrap to it,

609
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.840
especially especially with a stick of dynamite
tape to it, whatever it is,

610
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.280
but especially it's that much extra money
on the next earnings report, right,

611
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.079
Yes, So have they said if
this would just be for that game,

612
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.199
like so they're going to roll this
out, it'll be for Black Ops

613
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:59.559
and for Modern Warfare three. Okay, So they've actually been they've been tracking

614
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.320
Black Up stats since launch and that
stuff will be in there. So it's

615
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.519
kind of like a Call of Duty
subscription Okay. Yeahs it's not tied any

616
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.480
particular game. This is their ongoing
service, evolving service they've got an iPhone

617
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.320
app like it's it's you know,
this is this is a web page basically

618
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.400
where you're going and looking at all
the stats and you know, and and

619
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.599
joining groups and doing all that stuff. The other thing is they they'll have

620
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.639
leagues and tournaments with real prizes,
which I imagine that would be on the

621
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:30.000
other side of the paywall. Also, you know, they didn't really say

622
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.719
what the prizes would be, but
in the placeholder stuff they had like a

623
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.320
jeep or a belt buckle, you
know, stuff like that. It seems

624
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.400
like as long as they're not sucking
or taking stuff that, you know,

625
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.639
gameplay functionality out of the core game, like like they're not charging just for

626
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:47.800
multiplayer or something like that, if
there are people who want that stuff,

627
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.039
uh, it's hard to have a
problem. It sounds it sounds like a

628
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:57.480
more robust Bungee Pro to me,
right, nobody, nobody who plays Halo

629
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.119
but doesn't sign up for Bungee Pro
is suffering or thing out on and yeah,

630
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.280
yeah, but at the same time, like Bungee Pro was really just

631
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.360
extra file share space offers clearly a
lot more than that, yeah, and

632
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:12.360
probably will be priced accordingly. But
it's also hard for me to tell because

633
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.280
I kind of have no interest in
that at all. So like, yeah,

634
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:16.800
if it were for something and I
was like, that would be awesome,

635
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:20.039
but I have to pay for it. I could see people kind of

636
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:23.559
getting upset. But it sounds like
a it sounds like the most of this

637
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:28.280
stuff's gonna probably end up being free
anyway, And it's really just the stuff

638
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.159
that you know, you would have
to pay money to access anyway, like

639
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:35.639
Matt packs and stuff that would get
you prizes, which you know, but

640
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:37.760
you know, they're just positioning in
a really weird ways. They're talking about

641
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.719
like, well, you know,
one of the reasons that this has to

642
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:44.559
be a premium service because we're building
such a huge customer service organization to support

643
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.760
it. I'm like, no one
fucking cares about that, and really,

644
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:53.000
what is your like, what are
you servicing unless you're gonna like implement call

645
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:57.039
of duty gameplay counselors that I can
call up and go, dude, I

646
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.719
just can't shoot people, right,
shoot shoot them back. Yeah, if

647
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:02.360
there's someone on the like a binder
that they flip through. Yeah, if

648
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.079
Gary Wit is on the other end, it goes, well, have you

649
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:12.800
tried getting him thanks all right.
Uh, you know because because this notion

650
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.400
of like, oh, well,
you know, if we're gonna start the

651
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:15.000
service, it's gonna be a lot
of people calling up like, well,

652
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.679
what do you have to deal with
lost my password? Yeah? Like yeah,

653
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.159
it's like you'll have some of that
stuff. But I'm not sure how

654
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.679
if you're starting this paid service to
support the organization that will have to support

655
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.679
your paid service, then maybe you've
gone about it wrong. Or maybe there's

656
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:37.719
something that they're expensive to run.
We need money. Maybe there's some other

657
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.159
thing that they just haven't announced that
needs that customer support. I have no

658
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.519
right, or you know, maybe
they just know that, like the the

659
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.320
kind of mainstream Call of Duty fan
base is the type of people that will

660
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.840
just call you up to curse at
you over something, and they need people

661
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:55.639
to deal with that. I don't
I don't really don't know. It's just

662
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:00.320
like therapists or like Jimmy Kimmel call
them up doing that ad for this game,

663
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:07.360
right. Yeah, So you know, they haven't done a great job

664
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:12.599
of really kind of positioning this stuff
and saying what exactly it's going to be.

665
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.320
Let's I mean, like they showed
it Q and they showed it to

666
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.079
the Wall Street Journal and yeah,
and they showed it to you know,

667
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:21.280
obviously not just you, but when
I see you like a bunch of enthusiast

668
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.079
press. Yeah. Yeah, And
and there seems to be no clear consensus

669
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.760
of well, you know, the
minute you say, hey, we're charging

670
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.800
money for a thing related to call
of duty, everyone immediately he goes worst

671
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.559
case scenario and you know, just
starts like, charge your money for to

672
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:39.000
play the game. And I feel
bad for like Robert Bowling in this case

673
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.400
because he's, you know, that's
still kind of the the community face for

674
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.880
inffinity word products. And if you
look at his Twitter, it's just like

675
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:51.159
one to one responses to people saying
no, we're not charging to play the

676
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:53.599
game, like in like five different
ways, and it's like it's not even

677
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:57.920
a form letter. He's taking time
just go no, dude, which you

678
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.320
know, God bless him, and
that's he's he's good at doing that.

679
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.840
That's what they have to pay for. That's what's good, right, Yeah,

680
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:08.360
Yeah, to duplicate him twenty times, two thousand times to get and

681
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:13.920
has the technology to clone Robert Bowling. But I would pay for that.

682
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.079
That's I would totally make money,
but wasn't there There was a quote,

683
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:23.079
if my money goes to making more
Robert bowlings and making that watchwork. But

684
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:25.760
in their quote that came out of
Activision about it like a year or two

685
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:30.599
ago, that was just something off
the record kind of quote that was just

686
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:31.960
like, yeah, if we could
charge for the multiplayer, we were totally

687
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.880
doing it. Was it was on
the record. I mean they have not

688
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.519
been shy about I think that we
want, we need to make money off

689
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.960
of people playing our game all the
time. Yeah, but you know,

690
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:46.320
it's like standards being with you know, even even with the franchises, you

691
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:50.800
should call it duty. They couldn't
just do that. Yeah, you know,

692
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.559
they would probably make more money for
a little bit, but they would

693
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:58.760
turn off so many players. Yeah, somebody else would the process exactly.

694
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.559
Yeah, it's like you know any
year where people are you know, at

695
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:06.159
least like people that are are very
tapped into what's going on with upcoming games,

696
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:07.639
Like this is going to be the
year that they face their most kind

697
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:14.960
of They're going to face their biggest
challenge yet in Battlefield three, and it

698
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.519
would be a bad move for them
to go full on subscription only for that

699
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.960
multiplayer considering no one else is really
in a position to do that, and

700
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.199
no one else has to do that, and no one else will do that.

701
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:28.199
It's uh, you know, it
would leave them out of the cold,

702
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:30.960
like they're just not going to do
that. Like the basics of how

703
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:37.119
the console business works would have to
change change so dramatically for us to get

704
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:42.000
to a point where people are paying
to play sixteen player multiplayer games on a

705
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.039
subscription on a subscription basis on top
of what they are already paying to do

706
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:50.400
that on an Xbox. Right,
well, pretty much everybody's doing the past

707
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.760
thing then, right, that's like
a cross that's Warner Brothers doing it,

708
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:57.800
Activision does EA does it, right, they all have to included online pass

709
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.039
HQ has done it, but they're
just contributed through THHQ and you can buy

710
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:07.519
that through after the fact, right, everybody else you can buy it after

711
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.639
the fact. And you know,
one of the startup messages in Black ops

712
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:14.719
like they have the stats and stuff
that'll go across the bottom. Like one

713
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.239
of them even seemed like a swipe
at that. It was just like you

714
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:22.239
know, multiplayer free in every box
really like and you know it's it's that

715
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.360
they've They've said it time and time
again. Anytime anyone will ask them,

716
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.840
or anytime anyone is listening, they
will say, we have no intent to

717
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.719
charge to play the basic multiplayer basic
multiplayer, which is true right uptil the

718
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.519
moment where they change it. But
I don't think that the I don't think

719
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.760
the business will be there for them
to make that change anytime soon. By

720
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:45.119
the time that this business has changed
so much that they can charge for individual

721
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.679
games like that, Call of Duty
will not be a factor anymore, you

722
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:53.000
know, it'll kind of already gone
off into the night or something. So

723
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:57.280
did you see the game proper,
like just just regular game that you can

724
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.559
talk about. Yeah, I saw
for three. They demoted two levels of

725
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:06.199
the single player. They didn't talk
about multiplayer at all except for spec ops

726
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:07.239
that will be back. Oh cool, Yeah, I like that part.

727
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.960
The game look pretty good. Looks
okay. He looked like a Call of

728
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.039
Duty game, you know, like
it's it's uh, you know, it's

729
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.280
interesting. They didn't really focus on
any real kind of story stuff other than

730
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:20.840
to say it's conflict is all over
the world, which is you know,

731
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.519
their their teasers have kind of reflected
that and it's a continuation of modern Wafford

732
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:29.079
two. Yeah, but they didn't
show anything related to soap or Price.

733
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.079
It was just like, here are
some Delta Force soldiers, uh, you

734
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:37.719
know, taking Wall Street back from
the Russians, and here are some British

735
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:43.599
sas guys chasing down a train.
Well, if you've got a first person

736
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:45.559
shooter where you've actually managed to create
characters that people give a shit about,

737
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.519
you save those like, I don't. I don't think you tropp those out

738
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.519
for the Yeah, maybe not.
That's a you know, like the Price

739
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.480
reveal in in two, right when
you finally get to him, it's it's

740
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.440
a it's such a great oh shit
moment. But you know that let league

741
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.320
script claim is that this game picks
up like moments after the end of the

742
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:07.039
second game. You know that it's
not that they're and also that they're not

743
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:12.320
necessarily huge characters in the game,
which seems kind of crazy. You know,

744
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.320
I don't I don't know where I
don't know where this is going.

745
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:21.480
I mean I don't, I don't
know like what the fate of modern Yeah,

746
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.119
because like arguably after Black Ops,
you know, Call of Duty is

747
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.960
bigger than it has ever been but
they're you know, I feel like we

748
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:34.559
we are in the middle of a
really hard backlash from you know, a

749
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.719
lot of people on the enthusiast side. Yeah, I mean, that's that's

750
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:39.960
kind of the other thing. I
have to imagine that Activision expects a lot

751
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:43.400
of this reaction, you know,
because anytime you say, hey, we're

752
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:46.199
charging for anything that you know,
we all know the Internet doesn't like that.

753
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:51.920
Yeah, but how many of those
people have actually been turned off to

754
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.639
the point where they're not going to
buy the game that they where they were

755
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:57.000
going to buy the game and now
won't. And how many of them will

756
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.639
just or or are even aware of
any of this off at all. Right,

757
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.280
That's that's the thing. I think
so many people that play Call of

758
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:07.159
Duty don't pay any attention to any
news about video games other than when when?

759
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.000
About when does that coming out?
Did I did I learn about that

760
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:14.519
from commercials during the NBA? Right? Did I hear or like, what

761
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.679
were you saying? I thought I
had got the impression somewhere that the game

762
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:22.320
that is being made was sort of
mapped out pre kind of like Calamity,

763
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:28.960
And I don't know, I hadn't
heard that because that happened like the following

764
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.599
spring after Modern War. Yeah,
so they probably could have had like a

765
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:35.000
rough outline at that point. Yeah, I asked. I asked because I

766
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.679
mean, just like you see this
final product coming out after there has been

767
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:42.400
such a ce change in the development
staff, Like I personally won't be able

768
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.480
to look at this game without thinking
like, is this roughly the game that

769
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:46.880
would have been made if that hadn't
happened? Like, how is this different?

770
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:51.880
Yeah? It is? How this
game is oddly damaged? Is it's

771
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.199
it's hard, It's it's hard to
extract it, like knowing that there was

772
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:58.639
this huge creative change behind the scenes, Like you're left wondering like was this

773
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:01.800
game really made by like Infinity Ward
as I know it. I mean the

774
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:07.400
two people on stage giving or introducing
this demo were Robert Bowling from Infinity Ward

775
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:15.559
and Glenn's Scofield or of Sledge,
who last made a Dead Space game.

776
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:21.559
Right, Yeah, so you know
it's a PR guy and creative strategists community

777
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:25.480
guy and head of another head of
another studio. Yeah, you know,

778
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:31.840
so they've divvied up the tasks accordingly
and are kind of working on that game

779
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:35.679
across studios and you know it's in
their outsourcing a bunch of stuff to other

780
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.360
people. And you know, even
though it was not mentioned at all during

781
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:42.920
this presentation, apparently Raven is still
working on some portion of this game as

782
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:46.239
well. They were not represented on
stage though I thought Raven died. I

783
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:52.559
thought they killed Raymond. No,
well, Modern Warfare two ended with everything

784
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:57.239
going to hell and Soapen Price leaving
to go do their own thing because everybody

785
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.480
was out of there because everything everyone
was after them. So maybe any award

786
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.920
was writing it into the game,
predicting the future. Maybe that's why we

787
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:06.800
haven't seen them in anything of the
new stuff, because you seeing Modern Warfare

788
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:10.679
three is a parable for the Melon, and maybe we'll see Modern Warfare three

789
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:16.039
be like some pressure dead. They're
dead. We're not going to mention them.

790
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:20.800
They're doing it. One thing.
It's okay, they retired. Here's

791
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.000
some new characters. We don't care. Yeah, we don't care. Check

792
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:25.719
these new guys out. Yeah,
I don't know. It's it looked fine,

793
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:30.719
like the demo looked fine, but
it looked very standard. You know.

794
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.079
It looked like, Okay, I'm
working my way up the street,

795
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.039
I'm shooting these guys. Like none
of it looked new. The tech didn't

796
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.079
necessarily look like it had advanced,
and it looked nice, you know,

797
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:44.639
sixty frames a second like you expect. But basically it all looked as you

798
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.400
expect, which I guess. You
know, maybe with all the turmoil that

799
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:52.920
has come to the studios involved and
you know, kind of how this game

800
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.719
has come together, maybe that's like, maybe that's maybe that's all that they

801
00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:00.119
can you know, hope. Yeah, they're probably stoked using new like gameplay

802
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:05.320
thing like we introduced, you know, well, they shocking shock. They

803
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.719
showed what would that be? Locking
shock? You lock onto a guy and

804
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:13.639
then everybody rushes in. It's like
shocking off. There you go. So,

805
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.039
is it like you're controlling like attack
attack to point out a guy?

806
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.599
You aim at him and then you
hit a button and then everybody targets him

807
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:22.920
and then you run to cover.
Are you using it as like a distraction?

808
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:24.920
You're using it? It's like punch
a hole either man. Do you

809
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:28.880
decide how to use That's the beauty
of it. I like it. It's

810
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.840
up to the player what governs lock
and shock use. Can you just pump

811
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:34.000
it out as often as you will? You can only do it when you

812
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.519
have like three to more guys.
But I mean like when icon will come

813
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.320
up, how do I how do
I charge up my locking shock? No?

814
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:43.360
No, just an icon will come
up. It's like breaching the door.

815
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:46.599
Its scripted. It's scripted. Yeah, some points in the game you'll

816
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:49.719
be able to see here. It's
not really it's not really up to me.

817
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.159
It's just at this one point,
I can hit the bus safe questions

818
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:53.519
for the end. We're gonna roll
a lock and shock demo right now.

819
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:57.760
This is a little bit later into
the game. This is the same multiplayer.

820
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.159
We're gonna skip ahead a little bit. How many players we'll save questions

821
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:05.199
for the end, so as you
can see now, we're gonna jump Yeah,

822
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:08.199
we're gonna jump ahead now a little
bit. So kind of the one

823
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:14.400
of the new thing they showed was
that in the Manhattan sequence, the guy

824
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.760
was holding a rifle that had a
full on scope on it and he slapped

825
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:21.800
it out of the way the scope, yeah, like down to the side

826
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:23.800
of the gun, and there was
a red dot site there behind it.

827
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:29.159
So you can kind of go back
and forth between if you wanted good magnification

828
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:34.159
or just a red dot site on
that weapon. That's interesting. Sure it's

829
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.719
a thing. Yeah, well that's
a yeah. And and there were a

830
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:39.280
lot of like rail shooting sequences,
like You've got up to this rooftop and

831
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:42.840
planted explosives on this tower, and
then a helicopter came in and you were

832
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:45.119
shooting out of the door of a
helicopter. You launched missiles from a reaper

833
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.639
drone, just like you've done in
past games. There were the whole the

834
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.000
whole train tunnel sequence was all on
rails. It was just you're in the

835
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.960
back of a pickup truck shooting in
a train. Like it. I don't

836
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:01.239
think we're gonna fight. They've done
some pretty cool on rails sequences in the

837
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:06.800
past, or even just like vehicle
stuff like the snowmobile thing was was neat.

838
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.400
But I mean so there is there
is a modern warfare expectation of having

839
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:15.519
something like that. Yeah, but
to have you know that percentage of your

840
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.679
demo taken up by that, well, I mean the trailer, like half

841
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:21.719
the things that you see, I'm
like, Okay, that's gotta be on

842
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:23.760
rail's vehicles sequence. That's gotta be
an on rail's vehicle sequence. Yeah,

843
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:25.519
And some of the stuff is it. Yeah, some of most of the

844
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:28.800
stuff I saw is in the trailer
in some form or at least in bits

845
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.559
and pieces. Yeah, But like
like we were talking about, with Mass

846
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:34.679
Effect three, by the time you
get to the third one, you're not

847
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.199
reinventing anything. You know you are. You have an established audience. They

848
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:42.960
kind of know what they like.
That's fine, But at the same time,

849
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.519
this whole thing is getting pretty tired. Yeah. Yeah, I don't.

850
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:50.679
I don't think it's the same because
I don't expect a mass effect for

851
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:54.360
it to be very similar. If
they go for mass effect, for to

852
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:58.440
even take place with the same characters
or whatever. I suspect the that's the

853
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:00.360
narrative, Dey'll get wrapped up this. I suspect call of duty. They

854
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:05.360
would keep making the time. I
think I believe this is supposed to be

855
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:07.880
the conclusion of the Modern Warfare art. Okay, but I mean, I

856
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:14.760
mean to say that modern Warfare differentiates
or splits off from like Black Ops in

857
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:19.559
any gameplay meaningful way. In the
gameplay, it's it's not that you're looking

858
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.440
for it to split off, it's
that you're looking for it to make advancements

859
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:27.039
in a in a genre where those
advancements are kind of expected and kind of

860
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.559
continually being made. You know,
it's it's the it's the change over from

861
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:32.039
Call of Duty three to Call of
Duty four. That's what we need right

862
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:36.159
now. Yeah. So and you
know, it's like people are starting to

863
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.199
look to Battlefield three thinking like,
well, maybe this is going to get

864
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.679
us on a different track and hopefully
do something else. And I think battle

865
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:46.880
Field three looks awesome. I'm just
not sold on it yet, like that

866
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.000
camp. You know, they've shown
campaign stuff like that's not what I want

867
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:52.960
to see out of a Battlefield game
either, And arguably the majority of people

868
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.440
that want to play Model war for
three don't give a shit about it.

869
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.960
They don't even know this stuff.
So it's kinda it's kind of where I

870
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:04.800
I wound up with Call of Duty
now, is that's kind of become a

871
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.800
rental for me because I don't spend
time in the multiplayer and then the campaign

872
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:12.360
stuff usually winds up being four or
five hours, So I wind up with

873
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.199
a copy of Modern Warfare that I, you know, beaten one night and

874
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.760
then kind of put down and never
touch again. And some would say,

875
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:20.760
you know, well that game is
not for you. Whatever. But the

876
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:22.880
campaign stuff is usually all right.
I usually I want to play it.

877
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.039
I just I don't know if I
want to say fombastic, you know,

878
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:29.159
it's ridiculous. Yeah, I just
wish that like more of this demo that

879
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.440
they showed that they showed had some
element of that, Like there really wasn't

880
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:37.239
that there was a train derailing at
the end of it looked okay, space

881
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.280
train or yeah exactly. Yeah,
there was nothing where you were like,

882
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:44.480
oh fucking like, there was no
moment like that and anything they showed.

883
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:49.079
So without that, you're kind of
left sitting there going like, okay,

884
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:52.159
you're making another one of those great
like I right, we did the war

885
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.280
in America thing last time, so
that can't be the big like, oh,

886
00:56:57.400 --> 00:56:59.519
the thing is, you know,
now it's war everywhere. Now it's

887
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:04.119
war in America, it's war in
London, it's it's war in Germany,

888
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:09.159
France, like like everybody's town exactly. You know, it's like they're taking

889
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.719
the sense of scale to a whole
new level. But I think the weird

890
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.199
thing is everybody else has had war
on their soil except for us, Right,

891
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:21.519
so the weird novel thing is,
wow, war in America that's crazy

892
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:31.199
war It sucks. It's terrible,
not romantic at all. We had to

893
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:37.280
hide in McDonald's. That sucked.
But regardless of the you know, whatever

894
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.000
the quality of the game is,
you will be able to play it online

895
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:46.400
for free. Right, Yeah,
that's that's the key takeaway is nothing's really

896
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:53.480
changing the whole the whole thing.
So far, nothing's really changing. Uh

897
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:58.159
though, Specop's mode will have like
a wave based survival mode in it,

898
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:06.320
like a HORRS mode kind of thing. Zombies, No, yeah, that

899
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:08.719
they've said yet. I want to
know when that gap gets crossed, Like

900
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:13.159
when it's just like, all right, this whole like Infinity word versus tree

901
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:16.000
Arch weird thing. When Modern Warfare
gets infective, Okay, we we can't

902
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:19.719
have it. So every other year
the fire tech is really good and there

903
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.280
are zombies, like, let's just
merge this, let's stop being stupid.

904
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:28.599
That's where this game ends, is
gets bit and then now there's zombies,

905
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:36.159
modern zombies, call of zombies.
I don't even cause I don't even want

906
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:38.440
to talk about this. So anything
else do you want to talk about?

907
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:44.079
Oh, let's see. I saw
a brief demo of Metro Last Light,

908
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:50.159
sequel to Metro twenty three. Yeah, very brief to the point where you

909
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.440
know, it's it's it's really hard
to get a sense for, you know,

910
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.000
like what they're changing in that game, other than they said that they

911
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:59.119
want to try to and this is
this is not their words, but they

912
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:00.239
want to try and take some of
the jack out of it. Like,

913
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.559
you know, that game was kind
of messed up in some ways that made

914
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:10.239
it a little endearing, but we're
maybe a little crazy. So it seems

915
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:14.960
like they're facing faced with a pretty
impossible task of they say they want to

916
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.920
keep it quirky and keep the things
that people liked about the previous game while

917
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:22.800
making it more accessible. And someone
asks specifically about the economy system with like

918
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:27.960
you know, bullets and and and
how all that works, and they kind

919
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:34.199
of would not commit to that being
the same, which I think will serve

920
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:37.519
the purpose of making it more accessible
because that that ship was pretty crazy.

921
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:44.039
Is that based off in existing fiction
or before Boks The economy even came directly

922
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:45.360
from the Boo books. But it's
one of those things that you know,

923
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:49.119
for a game where they want you
to and this is how they said it.

924
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:51.000
It said, like, you know, we kind of want we create

925
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:52.360
these guns, we want you to
shoot them. Like if people are just

926
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.079
like saving all this good Ammo to
trade for dirt Ammo because they can get

927
00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:59.079
a lot more of it. Like
clearly, you know as a game,

928
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.039
as a design for a game,
it's maybe not the best way to do

929
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:06.119
it. So they're they're if that
is on the table for things that they're

930
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:07.679
willing to change. Then as far
as i've itncerned, every single thing about

931
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.000
that game is on the table.
And the demo they showed, you know,

932
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:13.840
had had a little bit of stealth, had a little bit of action,

933
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:15.480
but you know, it kind of
looked like you know, some some

934
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:21.559
more Metro looked nice, tech look
good, but it was it was strung

935
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:23.440
together, you know, it didn't
really get a good sense for for what

936
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:27.880
was really going on. It just
kind of looked like Metro. They're making

937
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:31.880
another Metro, And I think the
changes they make are well will end up

938
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:36.199
being risky because a lot of the
stuff that people liked about the game were

939
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:40.239
the things that made it kind of
impenetrable for let's say the average college player.

940
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:45.599
You know what else it was too
Eastern European for me, it was

941
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:51.039
yeah, absolutely but some people really
like that. Yeah, I think sometimes

942
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:53.960
it's for those things you get if
you can get over that hump. Is

943
01:00:54.039 --> 01:01:01.119
that that that there's an unforgivingness to
uh two games developed in Eastern Europe.

944
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:05.559
I find that if that, if
you can get get past that, that

945
01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:07.079
there's usually some really awesome shit too. Yeah. I feel like there's a

946
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.440
there's a depth there that sometimes but
you just have to dig deep enough.

947
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:15.199
You know, it's d you know, maybe even we're guilty of it sometimes.

948
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:17.679
I just think that, you know, a lot of players don't want

949
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.840
depth in that way, like that
style of like that's not the part they're

950
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:27.920
looking to push back against them is
the like this interface is kind of weird,

951
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:30.719
necessarily bad. It's just so different
and crazy that you know, it's

952
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.400
gonna take me a long time to
get up to speed on it. Like

953
01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:37.480
it's but I do appreciate something different
than the first person shooter. That's just

954
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:40.800
not like, you know, yeah, well we'll add something here. The

955
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:44.639
more they try to make it more
like Call of Dud, I think the

956
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:47.440
less interested I become. Yeah,
I don't think they're necessarily doing that,

957
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:51.679
so I wouldn't worry too much about
that. But but yeah, I don't

958
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:53.480
know. It's that'll be an interesting
one to see kind of how it how

959
01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:59.599
it comes out. And that's announced
for consoles NPC. Yeah, yeah,

960
01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:06.760
gosh, there'll be some stuff later
this week that I'll be writing about that'll

961
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.840
be uh, you know, interesting
new games for a new platform and that

962
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:15.519
sort of stuff, you know.
And I saw him Aspect three, but

963
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:22.519
can't talk about that. What else. Yeah, we'll check back in with

964
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:25.760
you. We'll have saw Batman.
We'll have so much more to talk about

965
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:34.360
us closer closer. The hassles that
I actually wasn't intending to spend this entire

966
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:37.559
long weekend writing up all that stuff
that I saw, but was sick the

967
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:40.519
entire time instead. So now I'm
like three days behind on getting that ship

968
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:44.760
done. So it's just like getting
sick on your Memorial Day weekend. Sex

969
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:47.119
too, it does, but it
I had that moment of just like,

970
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:51.320
well, it's a good thing I'm
sick now, because I want a time

971
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:52.880
to be sick any other time,
but right now. Yeah, I was

972
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:55.280
free. I was freaking out last
week thinking I was getting sick, and

973
01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:58.480
then I just realized it was just
a fever. Yeah, I feel like

974
01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:00.800
you should have just called up everybody. I'll go to your house and like

975
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:04.880
cut it up next to you.
Everybody gets sick, now get inoculated to

976
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.880
it. Yeah, keep an eye
on your lymph nodes. That's the telltale

977
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:10.000
side. Yeah, well that's swallowing
up. Then you got an issue.

978
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:14.519
If I go into E three clean, then what it takes like twenty four

979
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:17.480
hours forty hours at least for an
incubation. So probably Thursday or Friday when

980
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:22.119
we're getting ready to leave. And
that's fine. Our Thursday schedule not real

981
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:24.119
busy, bro, I just gotta
make it too. I've still got some

982
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:28.280
stuff to tuck in there. But
yeah, crabby parties have a plane ride

983
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:30.639
on Sunday, so that's plane rides
are always terrible for getting sick. If

984
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:34.199
you pick it up on Sunday,
I think you'll pretty much be clear of

985
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.400
the three to Wednesday. Thursday,
it really kicks. I'll be a good

986
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:44.440
case zeros the vector vector of that
ship right into this office. I'm just

987
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:50.400
gonna be drinking antier between now and
Yeah, that was that any different from

988
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:55.639
any other week? Good alcohol continent. I'm doing it for science. Bread

989
01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:01.480
shoemaker. Hello, I'm pretty good
you fucking went to Blizzard, lad did,

990
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:05.960
and I had a super long winded
segue set up from Call of Duty

991
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:10.119
to this and then you you had
to go and mention Metro and now it's

992
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:12.760
just you still want to use it. I don't even remember all of it.

993
01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:15.840
No, it was something of the
effect of speaking of activision related games

994
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:20.679
with a clear split between the audience
for campaign and multiplayer. Wow, that

995
01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:28.280
goes on that end. Games uh
uh, Games that had events at which

996
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.960
they showed two story related missions and
refused to talk about multiplayer. Go on.

997
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:38.280
I saw the new StarCraft expansion,
So is that the that the way

998
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:42.880
to address is it an expansion or
straight up calling it an expansion? Okay,

999
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:47.599
So does this require the vis game
in territories where there is a like

1000
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:51.320
boxed ownership model, right, like, because there are parts of Asia,

1001
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:57.760
not Korea. I guess I think
Korea had a box but also there was

1002
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:00.000
some kind of like monthly OK.
Yeah, think you could. I don't

1003
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:08.760
know, people that are listening to
this podcast, I've got it you need

1004
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:10.960
to have that. Well, it's
just I mean, you know, it's

1005
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.199
it's a testament to how big Blizzard
is in those territories. That the answer

1006
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.519
that question was not simply yes,
right, people say do I need the

1007
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:20.039
first one? They don't just go
yep. So did they say anything?

1008
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:24.960
And I'm gonna expect the big no
about how they'll package this? Will they

1009
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.440
package this in with Wings of Liberty
for like a full retail bundle to be

1010
01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:30.000
a mini battle chest? I don't
think they can do a battle chest till

1011
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:34.000
they're done with Do you think they'll
they'll sell these s two? I mean

1012
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:39.199
the real question to me is if
this is expansion an expansion, how much

1013
01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:41.960
does this cost? Forty bucks?
Like, they haven't said anything, but

1014
01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:44.920
I guarantee I would put money on
this costing forty dollars? Would you put

1015
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:47.360
forty bucks on this costs? And
forty bucks possibly more than that? Wait

1016
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:50.000
till they have not given you a
number? No, okay, so this

1017
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:56.000
is Brad Brad. I mean,
they've had three Wilds forty brad Bucks,

1018
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:59.760
Brad. You don't want to know
what the exchange rate is. It's terrible.

1019
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:03.519
They've had three World Warcraft expansions at
forty bucks, right, Like that

1020
01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:08.400
model is well established. They are
using the term expansion all right, and

1021
01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.559
how have they handled that? I
haven't kept tracking, but how have they

1022
01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:15.440
handled that in terms of packaging in
the originals and they keep them all separate

1023
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:21.400
the right you could digitally buy the
expansions, but you don't get a deal

1024
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:26.159
or something. Yeah, I mean
traditionally going back like ten twelve years,

1025
01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:29.280
like the Blizzard battle Chest, you
know, like you see it a best

1026
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:31.599
buy in the world. But uh, it's it's always like once they reached

1027
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:34.440
like the clear end of that development
cycle, like there's nothing else coming out,

1028
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.360
then we're gonna put this in the
games like ten years old. Yeah.

1029
01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:40.639
Well it's actually it's more like,
you know, once it's like a

1030
01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:43.760
year past everything coming out, right, Oh, I's been the original game

1031
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:48.000
by the time they get to the
you know, final Diablo expansion. Yeah,

1032
01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.880
it's like five years old. Yeah, the original is still coming.

1033
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:56.079
Diablo two expansion still working on it. They still patch that game frequently.

1034
01:06:56.320 --> 01:07:00.559
Yeah. May was just playing it
this weekend. Yeah, so they're I

1035
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:04.840
know exactly, I know exactly where
my Diablo two disc is discs So do

1036
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:08.360
I actually did you? Did you
bind it to your battlenet? Did?

1037
01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:11.880
Yeah? That thing is awesome,
So tell me more about what's the name

1038
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:14.400
of that heart it's all heart of
the Swarm. It's the Zerk Box.

1039
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:19.719
In keeping with the expansion like pricing
and format. It is roughly two thirds

1040
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:24.440
of the length of the Tearing Game, which was twenty nine missions, and

1041
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:27.960
this is gonna be twenty ish.
That's about was pretty long. It was

1042
01:07:27.960 --> 01:07:30.400
a long game. It was certainly
not short, but it will not be

1043
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:32.920
as long. How is the I
mean, the missions I assume are the

1044
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:36.199
missions. They're gonna be missions pretty
much, I mean with their own slant

1045
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:39.400
on it. I mean obviously too
I play. Yeah, definitely, just

1046
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:42.559
just like the Tearing Game, It's
like each each mission has really specific,

1047
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:45.719
unique stuff going on, even if
it's all just down to like weird map

1048
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:48.760
triggers that they scripted and stuff like
that. What's what's the arcade game hidden

1049
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:51.199
at the Zerk Layer? Where can
I go play? That's a good question.

1050
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.280
What would have to be Centipede,
right, Yeah, I guess it

1051
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:59.840
would have to be pretty much.
So what's the how do you tell how

1052
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:03.559
you keep telling this story, which
is, you know, after the first

1053
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:08.039
chapter, you know it's being told
from the Terran perspective and is so focused

1054
01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:12.239
on the Terran characters. But let's
be honest, the Terran characters are kind

1055
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:16.159
of the characters, but enough of
those characters. I mean, by the

1056
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:23.439
end of the human campaign of StarCraft
two, like the transition over to Zurich

1057
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:27.359
seems to make a whole lot of
subsolutely especially they have they have definitely like

1058
01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:30.920
that's big ten us story with the
thing that happens. But I mean,

1059
01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:36.239
my question is the Zerg being Zerg? How do you tell that story?

1060
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:40.279
Yeah, there are a lot of
zer I mean, like a person who

1061
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:43.319
stands up stands up as well,
let me tell you what's going on,

1062
01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:45.479
even Karragan for that. That's why
they like, yeah, you are Karragan

1063
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:48.119
in this, Like she is absolutely
the focal point. I mean, even

1064
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:56.680
going back to like brood Warl,
what did you have? And like random

1065
01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:00.920
cerebrates would talk, they had their
lives. It was all terror and produce

1066
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:03.359
like named characters doing. But theoretically, by this point it wouldn't necessarily be

1067
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:08.079
totally out of character. And I
guess maybe we're talking pretty specifically about the

1068
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:11.520
events of StarCraft two at this point, but like a Jim Rainer could be

1069
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:14.800
around for this and it wouldn't it
wouldn't be too weird, So it's weird.

1070
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.039
They showed they showed a teaser trailer
that's got Rainer in it quite a

1071
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:20.600
bit Nova the Ghost it was supposed
to be in StarCraft Ghost. She's in

1072
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:24.800
this. And there was all sorts
of even like Brad said, back and

1073
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:28.399
the brood War, there was all
like zergon Zerg campaign stuff that you just

1074
01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:30.439
were like, you know, these
are the good Zerg, these are the

1075
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.359
bad Zerg. These are the bad
bad zergs. I guess I just meant

1076
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:34.880
more of like, you know,
who do you prop up to actually tell

1077
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:39.119
the story? What you're asking is
what is the binding agent between the missions?

1078
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.880
Like and yes, that that's that's
partially. What I'm asking is where's

1079
01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:45.159
the ship? What's what's the ship? And and yeah, like what's the

1080
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:46.880
dialogue? I guess I guess I
don't know where this came from in the

1081
01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:50.479
fiction, but I guess Zerg use
these things called Leviathans to get between planets,

1082
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:54.640
which are basically just giant living space
ships. So you'll be on one

1083
01:09:54.680 --> 01:10:00.239
of them. I would be on
a greasy ship. Is that it's like

1084
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:04.560
pulsating ship, and they'll be a
jukebox there playing this kind of weird Hillbilly.

1085
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:12.119
So I mean yeah, and you
know, rap, everyone knows that

1086
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:16.520
that would be awesome. Like honestly, functionally, that stuff not really that

1087
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:19.800
different in this. I mean I
can't wait the first game that first.

1088
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:21.920
I mean, there's there's video of
it up on the site. I want

1089
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:25.840
to see, like the breeding chambers
in the ship, it's all in there.

1090
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:28.039
I mean, just the way upgrades
work. Yeah, so that's where

1091
01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:30.960
the vampaign. That's where the differences
are. I mean, first game,

1092
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.159
you were on the ship, you
had a research lab, you had a

1093
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.359
garage. You know, like it
was pretty obvious how the R and D

1094
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:38.840
stuff went down, right, and
this one like you still got the interface

1095
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:42.000
where like Harrigan's in the middle,
Like here's like your kind of advisor thing

1096
01:10:42.119 --> 01:10:45.840
coming out of the ceiling, like
attached to a giant tentacle or whatever.

1097
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:48.479
Of course, uh here is like
the the evolution Master over here is like

1098
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.359
this giant beetle looking thing. But
they talk, they have names, like

1099
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:56.600
you click on them and dialogue happens. I'm Robbie totally. You want to

1100
01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:02.319
make the Zurglings tougher a give fifteen
more hips. You want to be able

1101
01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:06.399
to build them, not creep to
me, all voiced by Nolan North.

1102
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:12.399
So, so actually, a bunch
of the dialogue in this was like temp

1103
01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:15.279
dialogue from Diablo recording sessions. Like
they had been doing a bunch of Diablo

1104
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:18.159
dialogue and these guys had like some
lines written. They're like, we're gonna

1105
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:20.359
get this demo together, could you
just like lay these down for us,

1106
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:24.159
Like stay, awhile, listen.
Well, I mean you know they're in

1107
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:31.439
character. It's not like yeah,
I mean yeah, but yeah. The

1108
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:36.239
upgrades are so every every unit evolves
individually. Now it's not like so like

1109
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:41.640
like in the Terran when you had
a linear upgrade path where like every every

1110
01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:44.880
iteration like you had to pick one
of two choices, but it was kind

1111
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.199
of random effects. What yeah,
you get this new unit or you change

1112
01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:49.680
this other arbitrary unit. But it
was there was no more really connected.

1113
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:54.560
There was no logical progression Like in
this, each unit evolves by itself,

1114
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:57.399
like totally independent of what you do
with all the other units. Are you

1115
01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:00.880
talking like on a mission to mission
basis, that's still like you out collecting

1116
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:03.399
stuff. Yeah, you're like doing
doing secondary objectives and missions and stuff earns

1117
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:05.920
you. Like Mutagen is what they
call it is just I mean, it's

1118
01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:10.880
it's not just like I mean like
specifically a unit or you're talking like a

1119
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:15.720
unit type. Uh, what do
you mean. Yeah, it's not like

1120
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:20.439
you're evolving. Hero units actually actually
split, so you're evolving. They only

1121
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:23.800
showed the Zurgling, the Baneling,
and the Roach, which are like the

1122
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:27.439
most basic Zerg units been in the
game since the beginning. Like I didn't

1123
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:30.680
see any new units, which is
bummer because people really want to know if

1124
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:31.800
the Lurker is going to be back
in there and all this stuff. But

1125
01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:39.560
that's getting pretty esoteric. But Karagan
is a full on like Heroes style unit

1126
01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:43.319
that you're gonna use in basically every
mission. She's super powerful. It's not

1127
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:45.199
like she can't die. Like,
it's not like she dies and the missions

1128
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:49.880
over she just sort of like burrows
into the ground and comes back. Can

1129
01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:54.279
we just talk about like it's been
almost a year. Yeah, yeah,

1130
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:58.720
she's basically human again right now.
And so she's in her full on ghost

1131
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:00.399
outfit. You know, it's like
out the blue like energy lines going up

1132
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:02.960
and down it and stuff. She
still got the tentacle hair right, So

1133
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:06.720
it's not really clear like she's mostly
human, but she's still commanding the Zerg

1134
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:15.079
and everybody still hates her. It's
hard best way over the board out,

1135
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:17.119
but it's weird, like all the
Zerg advisors she's talking to like kind of

1136
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:19.880
don't recognize her. They're like,
oh, your genetic sequence is different,

1137
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:23.680
like we don't. You don't smell
the same anymore, that kind of thing.

1138
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:26.680
So she's supposed to be so she
covers. No, she's like trying

1139
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:30.119
to regain control of everything, like
Dessert factions are all like sort of feral

1140
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:34.239
and fighting with each other. She
still hates the Terns like they're they're still

1141
01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:38.279
on the on the the Zerg like
homeworld from the end of the first game.

1142
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:41.880
They're still there, just like slaughtering
every Zerg they can find. Who

1143
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:44.560
knows where Rainer's at, like he's
he's in that teaser trailer. But but

1144
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:47.479
Demo was just this vertical slice of
like two missions, like five missions into

1145
01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:50.960
the game, So no indication of
what's going on with like the power dynamics

1146
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:55.399
or anything. Did they mention any
who did it with the mix now the

1147
01:13:55.800 --> 01:14:00.760
kind of cross like hybrid cross Zerg
thing, No mentioned of any of that.

1148
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:03.159
That's where I feel like this is
all headed. Yeah, it seems

1149
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:06.399
like it's totally faction. Yeah,
it's totally going toward a like you know,

1150
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:10.960
all the all the existing factions half
of uniting. Right, some comment

1151
01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:14.039
if you're going to play as all
these things seems like kind of a boiler

1152
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:16.399
plate sort of conclusion to the head
toward. But so, how do you

1153
01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:21.000
feel about a full game focused on
Zerg ship. I'm way into it because

1154
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:25.399
I don't play Zerg online. Uh, and this is hopefully will be a

1155
01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:28.960
good excuse to like finally, I
mean, I understand the mechanics, but

1156
01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:30.359
a lot of it is just getting
the high keys down and stuff like that.

1157
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:33.560
I don't want to learn ZERK.
I want to burn zer and you

1158
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:40.319
h you said that they spoke nothing
of multiplayer, but it seems like not

1159
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:45.199
specific. Common assumption is that this
is going to make some significant changes to

1160
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:48.119
the way the multiplayer is gonna handle
the crazy stuff is I mean, so

1161
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.520
like brud War came out, Frozen
Throne came out, like they have a

1162
01:14:50.520 --> 01:14:54.560
long history in their rts is of
putting in new units, which you know,

1163
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:58.720
balancing this game as it is already
like a high wire act, you

1164
01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:02.199
know, super preca areas to begin
with, so putting even more units in

1165
01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:06.279
there makes it that much harder.
But the crazy thing that they would kind

1166
01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:10.079
of cop to was that they are
not opposed to like taking stuff out of

1167
01:15:10.119 --> 01:15:15.159
the game. They would remove they've
said publicly they are units in there that

1168
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:17.840
they don't like that much anymore,
Like they kind of change some values and

1169
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:20.279
they're not working like they used to, and it's just they can't think of

1170
01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:24.600
a good role within the race that
they belong to for them to be there,

1171
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:29.000
so stuff could disappear. Do you
think this would be crazy? That's

1172
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:31.279
like totally insane that there are units
in a shipping game that's being played for

1173
01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:35.279
hundreds of thousands of dollars that could
change that dramatically. Do you believe that

1174
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:39.760
they'll have two separate launchers or games
from like they're batt on that thing.

1175
01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:44.600
Do you want to play bunch of
Liberty? What will become like they've always

1176
01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:46.119
I think they've always just had you
launched an executable and then you kind of

1177
01:15:46.119 --> 01:15:48.800
pick which one you want to go
into see. But you think that'll be

1178
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.479
they'll be matches that are wings of
Liberty and matches that will be hard of

1179
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:55.239
the Swarm. Yeah, I think
because they'll be there will be people that

1180
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:57.920
don't buy the Swarm. They don't
have to be able to play. I'm

1181
01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:00.479
just wondering if they would go back
and patch out of Liberty multiplayer to match

1182
01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:03.039
you know, I don't know.
Yeah, it's hard. I think they

1183
01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:06.760
they add content. That's a I
would say a tough I would say no,

1184
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:10.279
because they need to sell. They
need that, like that's the biggest

1185
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:13.880
reason. Oh you're talking about people
to buy a copy. Yeah, yeah,

1186
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:17.600
you know you won't get any of
that stuff buying this expansion absolutely not

1187
01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:20.239
interesting. What do you think,
like side question, what do you think

1188
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:24.680
the tournament stuff will do? They
always just go to latest build or they

1189
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:28.359
stick with Wings of Liberty, Especially
with so much Blizzard money behind all the

1190
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:30.720
big tournaments and stuff, they'll just
move up there. I mean they have

1191
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:33.159
an esports department, they have vested
interest and keeping the stuff up to date.

1192
01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:35.399
Yeah, I bet everybody will.
Do you think they'll they'll be giving

1193
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:40.760
those guys like early access to start
kind of making to say it was weird.

1194
01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:44.920
They had three days of press demos
and Asia was the day before Hours

1195
01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:47.760
and they were like actual pros that
I'm well aware of and have like watched

1196
01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:50.720
a bunch of matches of that.
We're at Blizzard when we dropped the names

1197
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:56.479
came for like Sin was there,
Selah who's the coach of Slayers, was

1198
01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.880
Fruit Dealer there? For Dealers?
For Dealer is kind of old news,

1199
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:04.920
like he has been Man's been underperforming
for months, Nobody fair Weather, Fruit

1200
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:11.760
Dealer, fans Man all those jerseys
and sucking hop on board when everything's going

1201
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:14.800
great. The guy, the guy
Nest that I interviewed when I was over

1202
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:19.199
there, he is still a baller. He is kicking ass on the pro

1203
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:25.199
scene. But yeah, I mean, nothing super surprising about the stuff that

1204
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:26.960
I played. You know, if
you played through the first one, it's

1205
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:30.479
pretty consistent with that stuff. But
you know, probably not a huge surprise.

1206
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:34.560
You zer looking U I I didn't
actually look at anything and stuff totally,

1207
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:38.680
you know, just just look star
Craft looking buttons. But but I

1208
01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:42.039
mean, yeah, like the environments
that you're moving carrying around in between the

1209
01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:45.319
missions and stuff like it looks like
you're inside a stomach or something. What

1210
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:47.720
were you fighting? Uh? It
was Protest and one mission and Zurg and

1211
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:50.880
another. Okay, so I think
you'll do they always make that stuff up

1212
01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:54.640
really well, you think you'll find
weird things that let you play as protests.

1213
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:58.800
Protests they said no plans for you
mean, like the little protest Crystal,

1214
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:00.079
they said, no plans for it's
just er. I mean with a

1215
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:02.600
reduced mission count. It kind of
makes sense that they would focus on that.

1216
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:05.920
But so that the Karagan thing,
I was gonna mention, like she

1217
01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:09.920
is, you know, she's a
hero unit. She has like kind of

1218
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:12.479
disciplines in a way, there's like
they only show two like that she's got

1219
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:15.720
a spec Ops discipline and then like
a corruption one and the spec Ops is

1220
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:18.239
like a ghost thing, right,
and that and obviously corruption like desert focused

1221
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:21.479
stuff. But it totally determines like
what set of abilities she has in the

1222
01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:27.399
mission, and you totally just pick
before before you. Okay, So very

1223
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:30.479
very different styles of play for her. She's super powerful obviously, but a

1224
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:32.880
lot of a lot of control and
how you want her to play and what

1225
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:35.239
kind of stuff she can do.
Okay, I put my saved game.

1226
01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:41.439
I don't want know, I mean
I made a decision. Yeah, that

1227
01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:45.640
stuff, that stuff is in fact, you know what, In fact I

1228
01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:47.680
think I saw them saying somewhere that
they had like picked what the decisions were

1229
01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:50.239
that are canon for that stuff,
because some of some of that stuff will

1230
01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:55.399
that's too bad. It doesn't carry
decisions in Yeah, I guess that might

1231
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:57.279
have been. I mean, it
would have been better if they had just

1232
01:18:57.399 --> 01:19:01.960
kind of written around those decisions necessarily. Yeah, well I don't I'm trying

1233
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:04.520
to remember if any of those decisions
actually made that make a difference. There

1234
01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:08.720
was one in particular where somebody would
be dead if you picked a certain thing

1235
01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:13.039
or not, but I don't know. Yeah, we'll see how it goes.

1236
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:15.039
They didn't seem to carry that much
weight where not really it was all

1237
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:19.239
kind of minor characters and stuff.
But also announced during this nine dollars a

1238
01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:25.520
match to play StarCraft two. Shut
up, wait, shut up, No,

1239
01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:30.560
not really, I would be so
broke. Everybody's one. But if

1240
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:32.680
you win, you get four of
those dollars backs. It's not subscription based.

1241
01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:38.560
It's just your credit card, your
PayPal account every time you want to

1242
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:41.800
play a match. Nine dollars.
It was. It was really a shame.

1243
01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:45.520
Yeah, so that's basically like it's
us, that's us, and he's

1244
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:49.600
on the dollar. There. It's
a shame they had the demo they had

1245
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:55.399
there was locked to normal difficulty.
It's not It's not normal. It's pretty

1246
01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:58.199
fucking easy, just like that.
I don't know what you guys played the

1247
01:19:58.199 --> 01:20:00.439
first one on, but I thought
normal even in the first This one was

1248
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:03.079
just like, yeah, I doesn't
definitely cruised through a lot of it.

1249
01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:08.560
Normal, not challenging, not necessarily
kept. I think you need higher sculty

1250
01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:12.479
on that thing to to make it
worthwhile. Yeah for me anyway, But

1251
01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:14.640
so yeah, I mean it was
a lot of fun. The mission's really

1252
01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:17.239
unique, and some of the upgrades
on the different units are totally insane,

1253
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:23.680
Like Zurgling. You can you can
combine enough upgrades on the Zurgling to the

1254
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:27.000
point that it trains instantly out of
like as soon as you build it,

1255
01:20:27.039 --> 01:20:30.680
it pops out. Yea. When
they die, they will burst into little

1256
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:34.560
broodlings, which are extra like attacking
units, and that they can jump like

1257
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:38.560
the last ten feet to close a
distance on their targets, like all those

1258
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:42.079
upgrades on that unit at the same
time. Obviously, Yeah, yeah,

1259
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:45.800
this would totally like fuck the balance
multiplayer, but like they change in really

1260
01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:48.119
dramatic ways. It's it's gonna be
a lot of fun to play with that

1261
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:56.760
stuff, and out out said probably
not this year out at Blizzard to their

1262
01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:00.399
words, like the words of the
director specifically, probably not this year.

1263
01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:04.039
But I guess they're not rulling it
out. I don't know. It's a

1264
01:21:04.079 --> 01:21:08.359
really weird things they probably I don't
know. I'm sure they have an internal

1265
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:12.920
target. But you know, I'm
sure Activision would love it if they could

1266
01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:16.000
ship the second part of this game
this year. Would probably be out this

1267
01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:20.119
year. They'll be fun. Activision
will get its money eventually one way or

1268
01:21:20.119 --> 01:21:25.039
the other. That yeah, but
that doesn't mean that Activision wouldn't still be

1269
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:27.520
saying it would be really awesome if
you guys would get this out for Holiday

1270
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:30.720
eleven, we would really enjoy that. The next one out for next and

1271
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:32.079
then and then if you could have
the next one out for Holiday twelve,

1272
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:35.560
that would be also awesome. Fourth
one, right, if the fourth part

1273
01:21:35.560 --> 01:21:40.960
of the trilogy twenty thirteen really is
imminent, maybe not a bad idea to

1274
01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:43.079
playing that stuff out, Yeah,
a little bit. I don't know.

1275
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:45.680
Such different, you know, obviously, I'll coming from Blifferent. I mean

1276
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:47.279
I'm coming from from Blizzard, and
Andy I realized that there is kind of

1277
01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:51.880
there's a fan base like like with
a valve or something for just this this

1278
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:56.119
developer. Like, I don't know, they're pretty different games. They're pretty

1279
01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:58.359
different, but at the same time, you know, it's it's like huge

1280
01:21:58.439 --> 01:22:00.960
ass PC game ards genre, Like, sure, you don't want to clutter

1281
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:03.359
put those two closer. Yeah,
a lot of people will just buy every

1282
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:06.720
Blizzard game side unseen. But yeah, Diablo also has a lot more PvP

1283
01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:10.920
focused stuff in it that I could
see them pushing as some sort of esport

1284
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:16.039
as well. I have no awareness
of that game, but I want to

1285
01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:21.880
play it. But I it being
announced after StarCraft two, I just assumed,

1286
01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:27.279
like, Okay, that's that's the
fucking far flung future. Yeah,

1287
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:31.000
flying cars, and I think it's
probably closer than you think. Yeah.

1288
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:34.159
Yeah. The notion that it would
even be out this year is beta?

1289
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:39.399
Beta is launching? And was it
September? I have no idea. I

1290
01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:42.039
think they s Yeah, I think
it's like late September for the beta.

1291
01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:47.319
I bet it's out of health and
manna, will there be potions? Dude,

1292
01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:53.159
there would be so many potions.
What's the potion? Key one?

1293
01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:58.880
P is it potion that was f
that F was for potion. No,

1294
01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:02.279
I think it just hop on the
hoar, right, So yeah, one,

1295
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:06.760
one or five, whichever was whatever
your fingers, depending on how you

1296
01:23:06.800 --> 01:23:11.000
know your keyboard breaks. So I'm
gonna get I haven't seen anything like you

1297
01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.720
said. I'm in the dark too, but I'm gonna guess one would activate

1298
01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:16.760
some kind of power in the new
Diapbo game. Wasn't wasn't one always potion?

1299
01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:19.399
That's that's what I thought you could. I thought you could just drag.

1300
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:23.840
I don't think you can assign them, but I think you fault like

1301
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:30.439
one two, Yeah, like warrior
scream is on one and two is no

1302
01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:38.319
no she bash locking shock yehs on
four. Berserkers rage is a good one.

1303
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:43.399
Yeut. That'll be in there for
yeah, for someone, some kind

1304
01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:46.720
of rage. Let's see Preserker's rage. Yeah yeah, power of the Elven.

1305
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:50.520
I think that'll be power of the
elders for the wizard or something.

1306
01:23:50.680 --> 01:24:00.760
Yeah. I wish I knew more
here with these. Of the wolf,

1307
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:06.640
yes whatever it is, of the
wolf, and then of the eagle,

1308
01:24:08.399 --> 01:24:12.479
and then of the snake, and
then yeah, I was gonna say,

1309
01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:15.560
and then of the bear, the
bear barely it was always the best loot.

1310
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:21.159
Jesus isn't. I didn't know there
was a hierarchy. No, it

1311
01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:27.319
was like specific stats, especially I
remember correctly. Yeah, when when you

1312
01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:29.560
do it, when you do it
by animal type like that, that's always

1313
01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:31.560
Bear gets the top. Well no, no, no, it's just bear

1314
01:24:31.680 --> 01:24:43.680
has a specific Eagle is reception.
This whale gives you health and sings like

1315
01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:50.359
fish do Omega three? Fatty ass
like the band? Yeah, h Bradley,

1316
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:54.319
anything else that you want to talk
about other than Ellen Warren. Uh.

1317
01:24:55.560 --> 01:25:01.199
I almost finished that Red Fashion what's
it called fashion? We can't buy

1318
01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:05.760
a matter of hours, we still
can't really up at midnight tonight, just

1319
01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:11.560
finished that game. I have almost
finished. I was I'm not even reviewing

1320
01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:15.479
that game. I have languidly.
It's I I was sick over the weekend

1321
01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:19.600
and I was so bored that I
played through Red Faction Armageddon. Did that?

1322
01:25:21.199 --> 01:25:24.520
I don't even know if I can
ask this. Stay tuned on the

1323
01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:27.520
site. Yeah, I'm not writing
the review, but I think that you

1324
01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:31.520
should wait for the review on that
game and maybe read some reviews before making

1325
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:34.920
a purchasing decision. Actually, Red
Faction Army. I actually played a ton

1326
01:25:35.079 --> 01:25:39.880
of Red Faction this weekend because I
almost also finished Gorilla, which I was

1327
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:42.520
kind of playing for research and also
just because I always meant to play it.

1328
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:45.239
Red Faction Gorilla that's a cool So
yeah, like it was weird I

1329
01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:47.359
was playing. I was like literally
going back and forth playing Gorilla and Armageddon,

1330
01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:51.079
like I had pretty much concurrently.
Uh, I had a lot of

1331
01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:55.000
fun playing Red Faction Gorilla. Yeah, it's a good game, and that's

1332
01:25:55.199 --> 01:25:59.199
I guess all I can say.
It's fun, fantastic. Let's take it

1333
01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:09.840
to news news that Yeah, No, you don't have No, you don't

1334
01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:13.880
have to That's where I say my
world famous news catch. Everyone knows how

1335
01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:18.279
it's your favorite part of the show. No, we don't do my favorite

1336
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:23.600
part of the show anymore. You
don't do the favorite part of your show

1337
01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:29.520
anymore. This is all your fault. Nope. Valet Parking nineteen eighty nine

1338
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:33.560
is out this week. What Valet
Parking nineteen eighty nine is out this week

1339
01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:39.039
on DSi were really, Yes,
that's the that's really the fucking game.

1340
01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:43.119
Well of a thing. It's a
product that they're selling like it was a

1341
01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:47.079
game. Sure, well, it's
it's an electronic interactive product theoretically. I

1342
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:53.720
don't you know, it's an electronic
product. It's a digital digitally digitally distributed.

1343
01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:59.039
You could trade money for points,
and trade points for valet parking nineteen

1344
01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:05.960
eighty nine Spec Ops the line remember
that. I feel like we were just

1345
01:27:06.039 --> 01:27:12.520
talking about how we hadn't heard anything
about Spec three, Like, why aren't

1346
01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:15.720
they booking appointments? The line were
last year. Yeah, it's like ocause

1347
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:17.840
that game is dead. It's got
to be dead, right, No,

1348
01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:20.800
no, it's not dead. It's
not dead, but pushing it back till

1349
01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:26.359
some time after March thirty one,
twenty twelve. Okay, so so at

1350
01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:29.199
this point it will have been enough
time to make an entirely different game.

1351
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:33.439
Yeah, since we saw it last
time. There's no sand. Uh we

1352
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:36.199
took out of the sand and replaced
it with buildings you can break apart with

1353
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:41.880
a hammer. They also said that, you know, BioShock Infinite will ship

1354
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:45.000
this year, this fiscal year.
Really, I'm sorry, no, no,

1355
01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:49.840
because uh no, no, it's
definitely not this year. It is

1356
01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:55.600
calendar year twelve. Oh I'm sorry, that's what I mean. Calendar year

1357
01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:59.119
twelve. Any time next year,
yeah, anytime next year, and that

1358
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:04.439
colm will come out before March thirty
one. Twenty twelve. So that is

1359
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:11.680
your early twelve game, this coms. I would love to know what x

1360
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:14.439
coms needs. Yeah, yeah,
wait, so there were three games,

1361
01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:17.520
So which one? BioShock is the
calendar year? Bioshocks coming out calendar twelve.

1362
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:21.439
Okay it spec Ops got pushed pretty
much. Ops is coming out after

1363
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:28.520
March thirty first twelve. X Com
is before March thirty one, twenty twelve.

1364
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:31.039
Okay, So x Com could be
out this holiday, or could be

1365
01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:33.720
out early next year, right,
could be out tomorrow. I bet it's

1366
01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:39.199
out third fourth week of March next
year. That sounds about right, that's

1367
01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:44.680
my guess. Yeah, whether whether
it's done or not, what's the last

1368
01:28:44.760 --> 01:28:46.880
Tuesday? Last Tuesday in March.
It's really odd, that's what like.

1369
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:49.960
Spec Ops is a game that I
thought looked pretty much like they were wrapping

1370
01:28:50.039 --> 01:28:53.720
up when I last time I saw
it was like that bit of it looked,

1371
01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:57.119
yeah, you guys are pretty much
on the road home here, let's

1372
01:28:57.159 --> 01:28:59.960
get going. X Com didn't even
seem like it was a game. Yeah,

1373
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:01.800
and they're like, what how's this
look? X Com looked like cool

1374
01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:04.760
ideas, Yeah, but it was
like they seem to even like I don't

1375
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:06.640
know. What do you think of
this stuff? Like we can make a

1376
01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:10.199
game out of this and to have
that game be like this's coming to this

1377
01:29:10.279 --> 01:29:14.880
home base. Seemed to research stuff. Uh fifties monster. Yeah there's black

1378
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:18.359
Goo monsters some March twenty seven.
March twenty seven, Yeah, that's the

1379
01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:23.840
that's the date for x Com.
No, No, that's that's that's our

1380
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:28.199
anticipated date, not anything. It's
nothing officially announced. Many how many brad

1381
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:30.520
Bucks are you willing to lay down
on this x Com? I'm gonna put

1382
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:35.960
all the marbles out for this one? Marbles? How many marbles? Coffee

1383
01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:42.880
can full and nickels on this one? And do you think specops will ever

1384
01:29:42.960 --> 01:29:46.720
come out? God? I don't
know. M No change in development right,

1385
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:51.399
still gager and they're not showing it. No appointments not at D three?

1386
01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:55.159
Can we I mean, I guess
can we talk about some of that

1387
01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:59.479
stuff? Can we talk about I
guess there's kind of anplicit embargo on some

1388
01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:02.399
stuff of like if they just dripped, don't tell us like you're gonna come

1389
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:04.840
have an appointment at E three and
you don't get to know what that appointment

1390
01:30:04.920 --> 01:30:08.199
is for it. You just have
to take it on faith that it will

1391
01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:13.199
be something you care about and then
you get there. There are probably four

1392
01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:17.000
or five meetings on our schedule for
unannounced game right secret game. But we

1393
01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:20.199
are totally we totally having an appointment
to go see x Com. I mean,

1394
01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:24.119
I'm sure, and we have some
appointments on our schedule for unannounced games,

1395
01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:27.039
but we know what the games are. Yeah, well we can't talk

1396
01:30:27.079 --> 01:30:29.199
about right, Yeah, Yeah,
that's I mean, I think it's probably

1397
01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:31.079
fine to mention because if that game
is not coming out till next year,

1398
01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:34.479
it's you know, they've said that
publicly and it's probably safe to assume they're

1399
01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:39.880
not ready to show it. Yep. So just crazy because I totally played

1400
01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:45.439
that game. Yeah, would you
want to be talking about crazy? Yeah?

1401
01:30:45.640 --> 01:30:51.760
Because they had voice working and everything. Yeah, like if they have

1402
01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:55.600
to to go re record stuff at
all, man, I mean, you

1403
01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:59.000
know the waiting the Nolan North waiting
list, it's like six months a long.

1404
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:00.920
No, maybe that's what happened.
They've had one line they needed to

1405
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:05.119
get him to do. Yeah,
we're not gonna make our windows scrab it.

1406
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:08.720
It's probably you know, they lost
their publisher, side producer and the

1407
01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:15.920
whole thing went no, housh.
No, that can't look interesting. It'd

1408
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:20.239
be the same if it never sees
the light of day. Uh. Strauss

1409
01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:26.399
Zelnick, CEO of Take two,
said that yep, yep, the one.

1410
01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:31.279
The one only basically popped in to
say, yeah, we're still making

1411
01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:34.920
Max Pain three. Also, we're
still making that game agent that Sony put

1412
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:38.680
up during their E three press conference
in two thousand nine. Good to know.

1413
01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:43.199
I would have pegged that game for
dead Yeah. Really, but you

1414
01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:45.319
know what, I would have done
the exact same thing to El Noir.

1415
01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:47.640
Going back. I went back.
I look at our forums for Ellen Noir,

1416
01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:50.520
and there are posts going back to
the inception of the entire website,

1417
01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:55.600
going is this game still coming right? Like? What's happening? What I

1418
01:31:55.640 --> 01:32:00.840
mean? Rockstar just has a very
specific and very weird like kind of promotional

1419
01:32:01.079 --> 01:32:05.520
cycle of there is that initial announcement
which I feel like they get cajoled into

1420
01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:09.640
by whoever they're making a deal with, like, all right, we will

1421
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:12.920
help fund your thing if you make
it exclusive for our platform for X amount

1422
01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:15.319
of time or whatever. We have
to announce that because we need to get

1423
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:17.439
people excited right now. Yeah,
we need to talk about it now.

1424
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:20.640
I don't care if you can only
give us a logo, a right or

1425
01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:24.800
a piece of like painted art.
Yeah, we need something, and I

1426
01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:28.439
wonder if we'll see more Agent at
the sony keynote. Which one's Agent.

1427
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:31.039
It's the one with the logo.
Yeah, okay, got a gun in

1428
01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:35.760
the logo. There's like a silhouette
of a gun inside you are the Agents.

1429
01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:43.079
It's the new rock Star PlayStation three
exclusives Agents Agents. They lost exclusive

1430
01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:48.880
Agent Agent all right, that's not
the one that definitely got canceled. That's

1431
01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:56.560
not the agency. Okay, that
is dead. That's dead, which I

1432
01:32:56.600 --> 01:32:59.680
can understand. With that dying,
you would assume that the game called Agent

1433
01:32:59.680 --> 01:33:02.920
would own kind I have no idea. Maybe that was just maybe rock Star

1434
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:09.000
skunk Works. We can't have this
fucking game called the Agency come out when

1435
01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:12.800
we're working on Agent. So half
of our development because would I play a

1436
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:15.840
game about an agent when I could
play as a whole agency. So half

1437
01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:20.880
of our development cost for this game
is gonna be getting getting skullduggers, motherfuckers

1438
01:33:21.039 --> 01:33:26.920
into the Agency organization and ruining that
game's development until they shut it down.

1439
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.159
Is the only one left? Yeah, bring down from the inside that's like

1440
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:34.319
an agency thing. That's agent.
That's the game. They were also secretly

1441
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:38.880
behind me. They're also secretly behind
crack Down too, being kind of crappy,

1442
01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:42.319
says agents, so much like we
can't have that if they make crack

1443
01:33:42.399 --> 01:33:47.039
and three, this whole deals off
were as crappy as as Crackdown two.

1444
01:33:47.239 --> 01:33:53.600
Was I reading Agent. That's all
I can think of as agent. Oh,

1445
01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:57.840
it's been weird me out playing Gorilla
because the leader of the resistance and

1446
01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:01.720
Gorillas is the agent if from Crackdown. Yeah, I can't not hear it.

1447
01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:05.920
I played some other game. I
don't remember what it was. I

1448
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:11.279
played some other game with that dude. He's got a real awesome authoritative radio

1449
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:18.359
guy voice. Infamous does he do
any viomember I remember hearing somewhere else too.

1450
01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:25.880
Anyway, Anyway, Hotheads doing some
stuff. They've got the Hitchhiker's Guy

1451
01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:30.640
to the Galaxy license, which if
you look at the title to that page,

1452
01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:32.920
it's called the New Hitchhiker's Guide to
the Galaxy, like the page title,

1453
01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:40.399
which makes me wonder if they're making
some kind of like continuation, antinuation

1454
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:44.760
or some new things on like the
Hothead site. No, like the Yeah,

1455
01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:47.720
their official site for it, that's
got the little oh the flash animation

1456
01:34:48.039 --> 01:34:51.119
crap on it. Like the page
title for that, I'm pretty sure it

1457
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:56.560
says the New Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Galaxy, which the end of those books

1458
01:34:56.680 --> 01:35:00.520
was about a new addition of Hikers'd
be way more into that than I'm trying

1459
01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:03.439
to like retail and like mind the
old series for jokes and stuff like that,

1460
01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:06.039
Like that would be the kind of
the word. But can they,

1461
01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:10.319
I mean, can anybody come along
and recreate well, like the last I

1462
01:35:10.359 --> 01:35:13.600
think the last you have a better
chance at that. The last half of

1463
01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:17.800
the Last Hitchhiker's Book is not even
dug at Douglas Adams written like that.

1464
01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:19.840
I don't I don't even I thought
it would. I thought the whole thing

1465
01:35:19.880 --> 01:35:25.720
wasn't even him. The sixth book. I thought like the core idea was

1466
01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:28.239
his, But maybe he didn't actually
write that's right, any of it,

1467
01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:30.359
or something that's right. And that
was only because the one before that ended

1468
01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:34.560
so bliquely. Uh, but I
did. Yeah, they definitely have a

1469
01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:39.760
never siook better shot at just doing
something newer than trying to like recreate you

1470
01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:48.039
know, it's every other than the
infocom text adventure. Right, every single

1471
01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:54.199
thing that's related to The Hitchhiker's Guide
to the Galaxy that is not the book

1472
01:35:54.479 --> 01:35:58.960
the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy or
the Restaurant at the End of the Universe

1473
01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:02.399
is garbage. Oh that's not true
at all. You're saying every other book

1474
01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:06.239
in the series. I'm not even
not even the books. But like the

1475
01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:14.199
BBC uh miniseries is hard to watch, but so is a lot of stuff

1476
01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:16.600
from that era of BBC sci fi. The modern the modern movie that they

1477
01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:24.279
made with most Death is hard to
watch. The radio play is great,

1478
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:27.399
well, the radio play predates the
books the Radio Players where it actually started

1479
01:36:28.199 --> 01:36:31.079
that that that was originally a radio
play. Yeah, well I've got the

1480
01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:36.359
like the complete thing, and like
the foreword on that talks about the genesis

1481
01:36:36.399 --> 01:36:41.119
of the whole thing. Yeah,
so that stuffs great. Sure, I'm

1482
01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:47.680
just saying, like people trying to
mind the Douglas Adams stuff just they can't.

1483
01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:53.600
I've never seen anyone successfully do it, like truly, like like you

1484
01:36:53.720 --> 01:36:57.079
see like little shadows of like,
oh, here's the things that he said

1485
01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:00.119
that we're funny, and we've managed
to get those on the screen or on

1486
01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:03.319
the page or in the game somehow, But it's never as good. It's

1487
01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:09.159
always just like I thought, even
the text adventure really like it got away

1488
01:37:09.239 --> 01:37:13.920
from the books in some weird ways. Yeah, like and and now I

1489
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:15.760
mix the two up in my mind
a lot, because you know the puzzles

1490
01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:17.880
in the game. I'm just like, Okay, put the satchel over the

1491
01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:21.720
grate and then put the buttons like
the town's gonna go here. I really

1492
01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:25.760
do think that they should if it's
a smart move to do. It's just

1493
01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:29.079
a new one, new characters,
just new writers. Don't try and like

1494
01:37:29.399 --> 01:37:32.039
Arthur Dad's daughter, like that's that's
how they kind of wrap up some extent

1495
01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:34.680
as long as it's in that direction, Yeah, I guess it. I

1496
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:41.399
just I don't have I don't know
who you who? You have? Righte?

1497
01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:45.159
That material that does I can do
that style. Yeah, I can

1498
01:37:45.159 --> 01:37:46.960
do that southing? Can do you
know? The original material Justice Like,

1499
01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:51.359
it's that stuff is so good,
so well written. It's it's like,

1500
01:37:51.479 --> 01:37:58.359
go back and read those first few
Hitchhiker's books even still it's nuts how good

1501
01:37:58.479 --> 01:38:00.439
they are. Can I do that
now? Because I never read it?

1502
01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:05.199
Absolutely fucking blew your mind. No, no, no, not at all.

1503
01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:11.720
Pretty good as far as like he's
doing a better job of selling it

1504
01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:14.680
than New York. Maybe maybe it
just they got me at the right age.

1505
01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:16.920
Well, when I re read them
fairly recently and they're still pretty funny,

1506
01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:19.520
it's because we're reading it for the
second time. Yeah, but I

1507
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:23.479
think I don't know, they're goofy
as hell. They're goofy, But there's

1508
01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:29.760
the asides, the just the absurdity
of it. They're absurd as hell as

1509
01:38:29.800 --> 01:38:35.000
well, so good and and and
descriptions of like the descriptions of the absurd

1510
01:38:35.079 --> 01:38:40.039
things go to such absurd detail in
that very kind of dry red way.

1511
01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:43.039
It's uh, I think, yeah, I think when I read him the

1512
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:45.159
first time, as I just never
read anything like it, and it was

1513
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:50.439
like some whacked out like this my
school school is making me read all this

1514
01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:55.560
trash, welly can we're not reading
this? And then going back it's entertaining

1515
01:38:55.640 --> 01:38:58.560
and propulsive and bizarre, and anyone
you told you were reading that looked at

1516
01:38:58.560 --> 01:39:01.560
you like you were not to be
talked too. And then all those kids

1517
01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:05.279
are just carrying around towels. I
don't want to be that kid. Oh,

1518
01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:11.119
you know what, Brad, I
will lend you my thick ass Hitchhiker's

1519
01:39:11.119 --> 01:39:13.880
guide Book. Do you have like
the complete Yeah, wow, I'll take

1520
01:39:14.399 --> 01:39:16.319
you. Will you will chew through
the first book because it's really short though,

1521
01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:20.239
Yeah, but you also just it's
a it's an easy it's a page

1522
01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:24.159
turner. It's a single reader.
You sit down and you will just burn

1523
01:39:24.279 --> 01:39:26.720
through it. All right. I
can't remember the names of them. There's

1524
01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:29.720
restaurant, there's so long things for
all the fish? Yeah, when does

1525
01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:31.880
it? When's the what's the bad
one? The sixth one? I thought

1526
01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:34.920
the fourth one was where it kind
of I think the third is when I

1527
01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:38.640
stopped. I feel like if I
read all this stuff, I'm instantly gonna

1528
01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:43.159
get about thirty thousand jokes from the
last like ten or fifteen other things.

1529
01:39:43.239 --> 01:39:45.840
That is, I mean, you're
not not being familiar with Hitchhiker's Guy is

1530
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:51.039
tantamount to never seeing my python,
like Hitchhiker's joke with the well comment before,

1531
01:39:51.159 --> 01:39:55.159
so you're already make good jokes about
it. I mean even hearing you

1532
01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:58.600
guys talk about like just the titles
of the books and stuff like, it's

1533
01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:02.560
it's also like blended into sort of
the cultural fabric of the last Like how

1534
01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:06.720
old are these books? Twenty years
thirty, he's like thirty years. There's

1535
01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:10.880
a lot of stuff like even reference, yeah, even not having read them,

1536
01:40:10.960 --> 01:40:12.960
unfamiliar with a lot of the stuff, but like, you know,

1537
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:15.479
forty two and a lot of stuff. But he does a great job and

1538
01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:17.880
there's no way you can even explain
what goes on, but he does a

1539
01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:26.159
great job of making the spectacular mundane, Like every rights, the whole of

1540
01:40:26.199 --> 01:40:29.920
the series is about like they're these
fantastical places, but it's all still run

1541
01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:33.720
by the same shit. You know, even if they're aliens, they're still

1542
01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:41.560
they still have the bad characteristics that
you expect from people. It's a and

1543
01:40:41.640 --> 01:40:45.199
there's just there's just like just at
this drying this way of just rolling with

1544
01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:48.039
it. Everybody just rolls with everything. There's there's very little conflict because everybody's

1545
01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:51.880
okay, I guess that's what happens, okay, and then the world blew

1546
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:57.439
ups. Most things end with indifference, yeah, shrugging up shoulders, like

1547
01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:01.359
here we are now. I guess
I thought that movie was all right.

1548
01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:05.960
I mean it's it's it by necessity. It had to be a very different

1549
01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:10.079
thing. I guess just the departures
that they that they made. It's hard

1550
01:41:10.119 --> 01:41:14.359
to do two heads. They hated
the way they didn't have, but like

1551
01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:17.560
I thought, the ship looked good, like there was a lot of fantastic

1552
01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:20.159
looking stuff there. I guess for
me, it was just like the stuff

1553
01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:23.199
that they added. I'm like,
why did you add this? Like why

1554
01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:25.680
did you why? Why was it? Were certain parts cut? And then

1555
01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:29.520
why did you add this? They
needed some because because I mean that book

1556
01:41:29.600 --> 01:41:32.079
and like the early parts of that
series, like nothing really happens. There's

1557
01:41:32.119 --> 01:41:35.039
no good natural stopping point for a
movie. But I mean the best parts

1558
01:41:35.079 --> 01:41:39.760
of that movie are when they go
into the The Hitchhiker's Guide itself, like

1559
01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:42.920
that's yeah, that's that's really when
that movie shines the most. They do

1560
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:47.680
they do that stuff well, yeah, like narrator, when they do when

1561
01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:51.359
they do the or like when they
do the whale scene, like like that's

1562
01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:55.479
you know, one of the better
parts of that movie. And all those

1563
01:41:55.520 --> 01:42:00.880
books they cover a lot of ground
like in that movie, they yeah that

1564
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:03.199
that's that's a really shitty task to
be saddled with. Oh yeah, I'm

1565
01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:06.039
not saying it's I'm not saying it's
an easy thing to do. But but

1566
01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:11.600
and I think that's to me that
like that speaks to why I'm I'm hesitant

1567
01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:16.600
about this hothead deal is because that
stuff is so hard to adapt to anything

1568
01:42:16.760 --> 01:42:21.560
you don't wants guide. I don't
mind, you know what what the thing,

1569
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:26.640
the thing that pissed me off in
that movie was the scene on the

1570
01:42:26.640 --> 01:42:30.439
planet where there are those the underground
like whatever, the like the spatulate paddle

1571
01:42:30.720 --> 01:42:34.920
like creatures that would come up from
the sand and whack them right like just

1572
01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:39.239
the slapsixth scene out of nowhere.
I like, I'm just like, why

1573
01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:42.199
is this, Why is this happening? Why is this here? Like?

1574
01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:45.800
How is this worthwhile? Connective tissue
for whatever the two scenes were that it

1575
01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:50.600
was between like it to me,
it kind of spoke to what was wrong

1576
01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:56.479
with that. It was priorities,
for sure, But it's yeah, and

1577
01:42:56.840 --> 01:42:59.560
and you know that's that's the danger, and that's the risk when you try

1578
01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:02.840
and tack something that is so beloved
like that is expectations are freaking high.

1579
01:43:03.399 --> 01:43:08.520
Yeah, And and I guess it's
just you know, between the later books,

1580
01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:10.000
at least the one thing, like
I said, I didn't read the

1581
01:43:10.079 --> 01:43:12.680
sixth one, but you know it's
like the later books being kind of bad

1582
01:43:13.319 --> 01:43:16.079
or you know, I definitely didn't
like them very much outside of the original

1583
01:43:16.239 --> 01:43:21.880
three. Uh, you know,
like I don't have I really like it,

1584
01:43:23.479 --> 01:43:27.520
but there's not a reverence or super
attachment to it, like I'm willing

1585
01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:30.880
to go along with people that want
to try to do something new with that

1586
01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:34.439
stuff. So I think that,
you know, I was more accepting of

1587
01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:36.520
the movie. Yeah, it was. I guess the thing for me is

1588
01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:42.680
that I'm less interested in that universe
and more interested in like Douglas Adams writing.

1589
01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:45.119
Yeah, like it's it's not like, oh, I love Zafod People

1590
01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:48.439
of Rock, He's my favorite in
you know, Marvin the Paranoid Android is

1591
01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:53.960
so great. It's like, no, the way Douglas Adams wrote those characters

1592
01:43:54.119 --> 01:43:59.279
or wrote about those characters on my
head is exploding just weearing phrases like paranoid

1593
01:43:59.319 --> 01:44:02.640
Android come out. He's a great
character that should have just read all this

1594
01:44:02.680 --> 01:44:09.760
stuff, all everything else in the
world would have made sense. I can't

1595
01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:13.640
wait till like E three comes in. Brad's mind is just completely blows.

1596
01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:15.439
Not even going to the show.
I'm just gonna sit in the house,

1597
01:44:16.199 --> 01:44:19.680
layers just melting away in all those
books. It's like he can now see

1598
01:44:19.800 --> 01:44:25.079
through the universe now, just kind
of like, oh my god, it

1599
01:44:25.159 --> 01:44:28.279
all clicked in his mind. It's
my god, it's full of stars.

1600
01:44:29.399 --> 01:44:36.920
Wait from no, that is not
that is that's a two thousand and one.

1601
01:44:38.600 --> 01:44:43.000
I'm exhausted already. Sorry about that. Hot here thinking about this stuff.

1602
01:44:43.039 --> 01:44:46.039
To give you just some some context
though. Along the same time that

1603
01:44:46.039 --> 01:44:49.600
they announced that Hothead announced that they're
making a Hitchhiker's Guy game, they also

1604
01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:57.399
announced that they're making another Death Say
It. So that is maybe part of

1605
01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:00.960
where my concerns about this game come
from. Hmm, yeah, that that

1606
01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:08.039
in parallel with Hitchhiker's Guide comes the
Hothead name comes. Yeah. Well you

1607
01:45:08.119 --> 01:45:13.359
know there's already one death Spank too
many. Yeah, yeah, they didn't

1608
01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:15.880
need another one. This one's not
even called death Spank, right, and

1609
01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:24.000
it's it's called the Bacon Ing.
It's really Bacon's really funny. Bacon goes

1610
01:45:24.039 --> 01:45:28.119
with everything. Guys. Imagine if
these guys hilarious got a hold of The

1611
01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:31.680
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, well, Wron Gilbert still attached to it.

1612
01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:41.199
Ron Gilbert has been attached to Hothead
stuff. Yeah he's yeah, he's not.

1613
01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:48.119
He's not in there, so uh
well sure like that Peny Arcade game.

1614
01:45:48.600 --> 01:45:54.159
I like both of those pay Arcade
chapters very much. Fucking still,

1615
01:45:55.399 --> 01:46:01.399
I'm still bitter about not finishing that
series. Get those guys and talk to

1616
01:46:04.199 --> 01:46:06.439
Steve Reski is like one of the
hot head guys, right, he's the

1617
01:46:06.479 --> 01:46:11.760
guy that did the Infocom game,
right, is he? I don't know

1618
01:46:11.840 --> 01:46:15.760
what the hothead makeup is like things. I think that's I think that's the

1619
01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:19.720
thing that makes you kind of go
like, oh, my vibe was that

1620
01:46:19.760 --> 01:46:24.399
the Penny Arcade guys were pretty much
happy to take a break from all that

1621
01:46:24.439 --> 01:46:30.840
stuff. Yeah, that's like,
you know what we're done. Expose are

1622
01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:36.319
real cool. I just wish they
would have finished. I just somewhere there's

1623
01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:42.840
a script pages of the story,
like continuing story. Really did like a

1624
01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:45.560
comic or maybe even a motion comic
that kept that stuff going. Yeah,

1625
01:46:46.079 --> 01:46:55.239
comic seems all right. I like
the game. I also like Uncharted do

1626
01:46:55.399 --> 01:46:58.159
Yeah, yes, that's pretty good. I also like that David O.

1627
01:46:58.319 --> 01:47:02.560
Russell is no longer attached to make
the Uncharted movie. I'm not familiar with

1628
01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:05.720
his work. Yes, you are
Three Kings, Okay, I like Three

1629
01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:11.520
Kings. It's a good movie.
Yeah, what else has he done?

1630
01:47:13.119 --> 01:47:15.119
Didn't he do? Hi? I
heard he did. I heeart hockey piece.

1631
01:47:16.520 --> 01:47:20.039
He's fairly director. I like him. I don't like what he was

1632
01:47:20.079 --> 01:47:24.479
saying about what he was going to
make Uncharted into. The whole thing was

1633
01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:27.560
like it's a family story. Yeah, yeah, and family of treasure hunters

1634
01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:30.680
or something like a family of treasure
hunters Mark Wahlberg and Robert de Niro,

1635
01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:35.359
Joe Pesci, Like, oh my
god, that's not no. That sounds

1636
01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:39.640
like, well, you know what, that would probably be an okay movie,

1637
01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:42.600
act like that movie whatever that movie
that was that was right around,

1638
01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:45.239
and his brain probably would have been
fine. Uncharted. I mean it sounds

1639
01:47:45.279 --> 01:47:49.079
like they're jettisoning, jettisoning like even
every like character arch type it was.

1640
01:47:49.359 --> 01:47:54.079
Mark Wahlberg is no longer attached to
this either. Yeah, like that's great

1641
01:47:54.159 --> 01:47:57.560
confirmed, So yes, yeah,
well, I mean Mark Wahlberg only came

1642
01:47:57.600 --> 01:48:00.560
in because of David David O Russell
because and the same with with de Niro

1643
01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:03.800
is that they're all buddies. So
that like this whole thing was just a

1644
01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:08.359
project with David or Russell pulling all
the people that he likes to make this

1645
01:48:08.520 --> 01:48:11.279
movie. But he's out, so
now everyone else is out. Cool,

1646
01:48:11.640 --> 01:48:15.800
sobody getting Old North into a gym, get some abs on that guy and

1647
01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:18.199
get him into this movie or whatever. Those bio digital jazz his face,

1648
01:48:18.399 --> 01:48:26.039
make it, make it look like
Drake or Nathan Phillion. I don't even

1649
01:48:26.119 --> 01:48:29.279
care Nathan Phillian. Have him do
it as a flashback. I don't you

1650
01:48:29.319 --> 01:48:30.640
know, I don't even care if
it's David Phillian, Like I like him,

1651
01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:35.439
He's whatever. He's cheesy, but
kind of deliberately so is fucking watch

1652
01:48:35.479 --> 01:48:38.600
it. I mean, I would
just see Nathan Phillion because he would just

1653
01:48:38.640 --> 01:48:41.680
be playing himself. That's fine,
He'll be playing every character he's ever played,

1654
01:48:41.720 --> 01:48:45.079
which is the point. I just
I just want not Mark Wahberg.

1655
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:47.640
I'm absolutely there. If there are
time, there is a time for Mark

1656
01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:54.079
Wahlberg. That time is now what
the picture isn't dude, you can't.

1657
01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:58.039
You can't have the same guy playing
Max Payne and Nathan Drake. Like I

1658
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:00.359
think this just opens up, you
know, the possibilities for the big hit

1659
01:49:00.479 --> 01:49:04.920
too, which I'm really looking forward
to get Pokey wood Bob on the phone.

1660
01:49:08.840 --> 01:49:12.640
Come on, do you think this
movie's next China Chow? Yeah,

1661
01:49:13.119 --> 01:49:16.359
Devinoke No, no, no,
next to Devin Aoki. At this point,

1662
01:49:16.439 --> 01:49:19.479
it would have to be you should
you should go online and look for

1663
01:49:19.560 --> 01:49:24.439
some of the apocryphal tales of David
oh Russell's douchebaggery on set, because it

1664
01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:32.159
is unbelievable. I think I did
us some of that Three Kings George Clooney

1665
01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:35.119
hit him in the face. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. It

1666
01:49:35.239 --> 01:49:39.119
was maybe George. It's it's weird
because because that stuff happens, and then

1667
01:49:39.159 --> 01:49:42.920
after the fact, everyone pretty much
says like he's a he's a genius.

1668
01:49:43.079 --> 01:49:45.640
I will never work with him again. Yeah, I mean the movies are

1669
01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:48.600
uniformly pretty good. Yeah, he's
not a bad filmmaker. He just sounds

1670
01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:55.399
like a bad people person. Suffer
ye whole Hogan's have made event for Xbox

1671
01:49:55.479 --> 01:49:58.920
Connect Jeff, I'm thrown over to
you in the wrestling corner. That's right,

1672
01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:03.880
brother, because Connect Majestico your friends
in mine. The makers of SpongeBob

1673
01:50:03.960 --> 01:50:10.640
SquarePants video cards for game Blay Advance
and advent Rising those cards still paying the

1674
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:19.079
bills right there. Connect this holiday
season, dude, So, d well,

1675
01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:23.680
you know something, Majestico Brothers.
Do you think there will be a

1676
01:50:23.800 --> 01:50:28.960
Yappa pie when on the dotted line
to sign the contract for this brother?

1677
01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:32.560
I don't know. Yes, the
yep Pie and strap match will be strongly

1678
01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:40.239
featured, so you'll have to get
your body into the proper position for the

1679
01:50:40.279 --> 01:50:50.079
strap Asian. Dude, they said
so like painfully little about what this game

1680
01:50:50.199 --> 01:50:55.960
even is. Well, well they've
said enough in saying that Panic Button,

1681
01:50:56.039 --> 01:50:59.279
makers of Attack of the Movies three
D is developing this. Yeah, there

1682
01:50:59.319 --> 01:51:03.600
you go, so only bangers.
That sounds like a pretty good combination.

1683
01:51:03.880 --> 01:51:08.279
So that's yeah. So it's a
rail shooter for Connect. I wish you

1684
01:51:08.359 --> 01:51:12.119
gotta spin your hand around and hold
it up to your ears. Alien Hulk

1685
01:51:12.199 --> 01:51:17.399
Hogan not w w E, not
even t NA no, which is where

1686
01:51:17.479 --> 01:51:25.159
he is now. Hulk Hogan is
not even Suburban Commander Zeus will not be

1687
01:51:25.399 --> 01:51:30.399
in this game. That don't make
these claims before you know all the facts,

1688
01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:36.520
because that that's something that if they
said and Zeus is, yeah,

1689
01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:40.680
he is, then they could get
they could get Tiny Lister. At this

1690
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:47.920
point, trying to decide how I
feel about that. I mean, yeah,

1691
01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:50.239
what is this game? Who does
that's the question? Who does he

1692
01:51:50.319 --> 01:51:54.800
wrestle? Maybe doesn't wrestlers, you
know, I know it doesn't say it's

1693
01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:57.560
a wrestling game. It kind of
doesn't. Yeah, I mean, it's

1694
01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:00.039
just Hulk Hogan like shooting guys.
Is he is he act wrestling in TNA

1695
01:52:00.159 --> 01:52:05.199
or he's like an on camera like
like like leader, like he's he's the

1696
01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:11.159
he's the man. He's oppressing wrestlers. Uh So he just comes out and

1697
01:52:11.880 --> 01:52:15.039
takes up way too much airtime saying, well, you know something, brother,

1698
01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:17.479
you're not gonna get this match because
I run the things around here.

1699
01:52:17.680 --> 01:52:20.920
Dude. He's kind of a too
physically messed up to wrestle at this point.

1700
01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:24.560
Yeah, it doesn't he have like
like just incredible back problems. Sounds

1701
01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:26.880
like, yeah, I bet if
he wanted to get like one more match,

1702
01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:28.520
and you know, I made a
whole lot of sense he could.

1703
01:52:28.800 --> 01:52:30.840
You know, he could do some
stuff, but you know, he was

1704
01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:33.880
never like the most nimble, amazing
wrestler in the world. Anyways. He's

1705
01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:39.560
also like in real heart up financial
situation. Right. I guess his ex

1706
01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:42.479
wife's just like totally clean him out. Does that like that happened and all

1707
01:52:42.520 --> 01:52:46.720
the stuff with Oh that's right.
I mean Rick Flair is still like in

1708
01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:49.600
TNA, they don't even call it
TENNA anymore. They change their name.

1709
01:52:49.640 --> 01:52:55.159
It's just Impact Wrestling because they're like
so reactionary. They caught wind of some

1710
01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:59.640
internal memo apparently, or that Vince
McMahon didn't want people to use wrestling and

1711
01:52:59.680 --> 01:53:02.640
conject function with the products because they're
trying to seem like mainstream entertainment, so

1712
01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:05.560
let's just call it entertainment. And
they said, well, so now they're

1713
01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:11.079
the TNA slogan is down wrestling matters, like, so it's reactionary to a

1714
01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:16.760
memo that me and like nine other
people get the reference of and care about,

1715
01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:20.079
but everyone else is like, you're
stupid, this is stupid. What

1716
01:53:20.319 --> 01:53:24.359
is this thing? What am I
watching? Now? So? I actually

1717
01:53:24.359 --> 01:53:28.560
started watching TNA a couple of weeks
ago because I wanted to prove to myself

1718
01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:32.119
that I can only watch the worst
television possible. So Farm Report, Farm

1719
01:53:32.159 --> 01:53:36.039
Report, Big Joe Polka Show.
Yeah, heehaw, heehaw. Well he

1720
01:53:36.279 --> 01:53:40.640
was good. Yeah, it was
classic. Yeah, And and now like

1721
01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:45.199
the worst wrestling imaginable. It's just
like, let me, let me pay

1722
01:53:45.319 --> 01:53:48.199
for as much shit as I have
talked about how bad like the WWW is,

1723
01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:57.279
Like man they put on are there
is production quality, like things make

1724
01:53:57.359 --> 01:54:03.079
at least some things make wrestling sense, you know, at least wrestling logic

1725
01:54:03.279 --> 01:54:10.439
is a tenuous logic already. Yeah, whereas the things going on, it's

1726
01:54:10.479 --> 01:54:14.199
just like is it just is it
just everyone walking out and getting hit by

1727
01:54:14.399 --> 01:54:16.720
unmarked Lincoln Town cars. That would
be way better. T would be way

1728
01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:21.159
better than anything going on. Every
match, whoever the winner is watch and

1729
01:54:21.199 --> 01:54:26.039
then run down who drove that car? Maybe we'll find out next week.

1730
01:54:26.239 --> 01:54:29.760
And then they never mentioned it.
It's it. They just always come back.

1731
01:54:30.039 --> 01:54:33.960
That's that's the Kenny Dying of wrestling. Yeah, Whereas like in TNA,

1732
01:54:34.039 --> 01:54:39.399
they're calling back to like bad w
c W shit where they have the

1733
01:54:39.439 --> 01:54:42.520
guy who used to be mister Kennedy
in the WWE, who used to be

1734
01:54:42.680 --> 01:54:45.159
kind of good. Yeah, like
he's coming out dressed up like old Sting

1735
01:54:45.319 --> 01:54:51.520
to get in new like current Sting's
head and like yeah yeah, okay,

1736
01:54:51.640 --> 01:54:57.319
like ultimate Worrier face paint looking stingy. You know bleach, Oh does you

1737
01:54:57.359 --> 01:55:00.199
even like have the bleached high It's
kind of funny, but it's just like

1738
01:55:00.319 --> 01:55:03.680
done so shodily. It's just like, what the fuck is even going on?

1739
01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:09.760
And it's like this, I don't
yeah, I don't know women entrances,

1740
01:55:09.920 --> 01:55:14.159
I don't know. It's like this, she's she's been taken over by

1741
01:55:14.239 --> 01:55:17.000
the evil, evil other woman.
That's why she's got dark circles under her

1742
01:55:17.039 --> 01:55:20.640
eyes now, and she snapped and
wrestled this other girl. It's just like

1743
01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:30.039
dumb. I'm saying, the wrestling
is dumber than ever. It's twenty eleven,

1744
01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:33.840
y'all. Oh, it's it is
astounding to me that it still exists

1745
01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:40.000
there, that they're still able to
build some kind of business off of these

1746
01:55:40.159 --> 01:55:44.000
dumb ideas. Never go broke play
into the cheap seats, I guess,

1747
01:55:44.319 --> 01:55:48.960
I guess, and I'm not.
I'm certainly not above it for those,

1748
01:55:49.039 --> 01:55:55.680
but those spare moments, Jesus,
It just they never fail to make me

1749
01:55:55.800 --> 01:56:00.439
feel like the biggest idiot possible.
Whenever I just watched that. And if

1750
01:56:00.479 --> 01:56:03.520
there's ever any moment where you might
you we were you even accidentally get invested

1751
01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:08.279
in something related to wrestling, it's
going to fucking go as wrong as it

1752
01:56:08.319 --> 01:56:10.920
possibly going. You'll be like,
why did I Why did I care about

1753
01:56:10.960 --> 01:56:13.359
this? God, I'm an idiot. Why did I think this was gonna

1754
01:56:13.479 --> 01:56:18.640
end up awesome? Yeah, it's
not awesome. This is your kids.

1755
01:56:18.680 --> 01:56:24.439
It's not kids kids wrestling. Wrestling
is not awesome. Don't let it.

1756
01:56:24.479 --> 01:56:28.359
Don't let them tell you otherwise.
I was looking at screenshots of w W

1757
01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:31.239
E twelve this morning and going like, it looks like, no, actually,

1758
01:56:31.560 --> 01:56:34.760
all right, in some smart changes, this is the year. This

1759
01:56:34.920 --> 01:56:38.039
is the year. Like wait,
no, fucking god, damn it.

1760
01:56:39.840 --> 01:56:45.279
Shame on you, Jeff. Moving
on to more E three business, Uh,

1761
01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:48.479
we got you know, we We've
had announcements from Valve saying we are

1762
01:56:48.560 --> 01:56:51.880
not going to E three and Bungee
saying we are not showing anything at E

1763
01:56:53.039 --> 01:56:58.520
three. Add Hideo Kajima to the
lists. Dude says, you know what,

1764
01:56:59.159 --> 01:57:00.880
I'm not going to E three.
That's crazy because E three is like

1765
01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:04.960
Christmas for that guy. Also,
like, you know, metal gear,

1766
01:57:05.039 --> 01:57:09.159
solid stuff for me. Yeah,
I don't expect to see too much of

1767
01:57:09.199 --> 01:57:12.680
that, so I don't expect.
He was on Twitter talking about how something

1768
01:57:13.680 --> 01:57:15.960
that he had been working on isn't
dead or something like that, yeah,

1769
01:57:16.159 --> 01:57:23.720
or some undusion to a project not
happening or or something like that, or

1770
01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:25.720
you know, it just could just
be like he was shopping for a new

1771
01:57:25.840 --> 01:57:29.640
leather jacket and that fell through.
I mean, who knows. But so

1772
01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:32.199
this, I mean, don't count
out metal gear solid stuff during the Konami

1773
01:57:32.239 --> 01:57:36.800
press conference, which is happening before
E three, right, But it sounds

1774
01:57:36.840 --> 01:57:41.800
like Kajima himself will not be But
it sounds like that they have recorded some

1775
01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:45.840
message from Kojima ahead of time.
Yeah, with eight fours Mark McDonald,

1776
01:57:45.960 --> 01:57:47.920
it does sound like that. I
don't know what the contents of that are,

1777
01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:56.159
but it's kind of weird. I
can't remember any year past where people

1778
01:57:56.239 --> 01:58:01.760
have felt compelled to announce that we
are not going, we will not be

1779
01:58:01.960 --> 01:58:04.800
here. How many brad Bucks do
we want to lay down on the notion

1780
01:58:04.960 --> 01:58:08.439
that metal here, Solid Rising is
never going to come out? Oh,

1781
01:58:14.239 --> 01:58:16.880
I mean, I could see that
rapidly turning into a StarCraft Ghost kind of

1782
01:58:16.920 --> 01:58:20.319
situation. They showed it though.
They made such a big deal people that

1783
01:58:20.399 --> 01:58:25.920
people had played StarCraft Ghost. They
have to be brought to our office.

1784
01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:30.159
But this is a Japanese company.
I think they have to finish what they

1785
01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:31.640
started. I think, you know, I think they would lose too much

1786
01:58:31.640 --> 01:58:35.840
face by canceling this game. They
announce it for the move was that was

1787
01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:40.960
that was the craziest rumor that I
have seen about. Do you guys see

1788
01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:45.319
this on Twitter over the weekend that
Platinum Games is supposedly taking over development of

1789
01:58:45.359 --> 01:58:49.840
that game? Huh that's one way
too, I guess, yeah, total

1790
01:58:49.920 --> 01:58:55.119
here say, I just saw some
people branded people who might know yeah,

1791
01:58:55.199 --> 01:58:59.359
yeah, saying that they had heard
such things. That'd be one way to

1792
01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:01.800
finish it, I guess. But
it's it's just weird that that game.

1793
01:59:02.640 --> 01:59:05.680
I mean, it's it's been at
E three and kind of like nowhere else,

1794
01:59:05.800 --> 01:59:09.359
right, they didn't really Yeah,
they showed it last year at the

1795
01:59:09.439 --> 01:59:13.840
Microsoft conference. Yeah, and then
they show it the year before there.

1796
01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:15.199
They just announced it the year before. They announced the year before that,

1797
01:59:17.159 --> 01:59:21.680
like the cutting of Watermelons, which
was a game. Was there a site

1798
01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:28.520
with like lightning and yeah, big
teaser and all that stuff. But nothing

1799
01:59:28.560 --> 01:59:30.800
they've showed has necessarily looked like a
game. And you know, it's like

1800
01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:34.319
the thing last year basics, right, you haven't really been hearing tons of

1801
01:59:34.359 --> 01:59:36.960
people talking about, Oh I hear
Rising is gonna be this and Rising is

1802
01:59:36.960 --> 01:59:41.279
gonna be that, Like it's I
just feel like the further we get away

1803
01:59:41.359 --> 01:59:45.840
from for the less relevant that game
Metal Gear slid for the less relevant the

1804
01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:49.119
whole franchise. Well, even that
character becomes like he was like Ninja riding,

1805
01:59:49.199 --> 01:59:54.600
right, It's like all cyber Ninja
right now, It's like who why

1806
01:59:54.760 --> 01:59:57.079
was he? I can't even remember
what happened? You got crushed by a

1807
01:59:57.159 --> 01:59:59.760
rocker or now? I mean,
you know, the most likely Metal Year

1808
02:00:00.199 --> 02:00:03.720
thing we're going to hear is related
to the three DS games. Yeah,

1809
02:00:04.119 --> 02:00:09.039
they're showing that. Yeah, that's
like that's on a three DS release list,

1810
02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:13.760
right, but that's just three with
with some extra stuff exactly. That's

1811
02:00:14.079 --> 02:00:16.319
that's an existing game. Basically,
they're just setting the stage for Acid three

1812
02:00:17.920 --> 02:00:24.479
D. I know, you know, I enjoyed Miliar Solid for as much

1813
02:00:24.520 --> 02:00:29.159
as the next guy, But I
yeah, I wonder about just overall relevance.

1814
02:00:29.319 --> 02:00:31.039
Yeah, totally with you. I'd
be curious to I mean, I

1815
02:00:31.079 --> 02:00:33.359
don't I don't really know what the
sales were for that game, but I

1816
02:00:33.439 --> 02:00:36.680
wonder like if they look back on
that project and how much it costs to

1817
02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:42.439
develop and what they got out of
it, like like how that project is

1818
02:00:42.520 --> 02:00:48.079
viewed, if it is viewed as
a a total success or is it not?

1819
02:00:49.880 --> 02:00:54.479
Fine questions? I like to know
that as well. So I really

1820
02:00:54.560 --> 02:00:59.479
like that that game. I would
be into playing another game that has that

1821
02:00:59.720 --> 02:01:02.159
sense of scope and that sense of
crazy to it. Could you do without

1822
02:01:02.199 --> 02:01:06.720
Solid Snake ye completely just nowhere you're
seeing all right? Or you know if

1823
02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:10.840
it maybe he's the voice over the
codec or something ordering riding around or something

1824
02:01:10.880 --> 02:01:12.960
like that, you know, it's
I don't think you have to play a

1825
02:01:13.039 --> 02:01:16.960
Snake and I think that, or
or you know, you reboot Snake because

1826
02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:19.439
he's a clone, and you can
do that. He's a clone. You

1827
02:01:19.479 --> 02:01:26.119
can do that. You could have
young Snake running around without that many leaps

1828
02:01:26.119 --> 02:01:28.880
of logic, considering how many leaps
of logic that game takes. You can

1829
02:01:29.039 --> 02:01:32.319
do the first twenty minutes. But
should you You know what you should do

1830
02:01:32.720 --> 02:01:40.079
is Big Boss's dad go back even
for a boss that's right, but you're

1831
02:01:40.119 --> 02:01:45.640
a clone of him, so you
don't know any of your young Big Boss's

1832
02:01:45.760 --> 02:01:50.279
dad in the dear future, the
far flung future, which one is that

1833
02:01:50.359 --> 02:01:56.119
the woman star no Big bosses who
Solid Snake is cloned from okay, big

1834
02:01:56.199 --> 02:01:58.960
Boss. Big Boss is the star
of mil your solid three. Right.

1835
02:01:59.359 --> 02:02:03.279
What's the woman's name? Just Boss, She's the boss. Okay, yeah,

1836
02:02:03.439 --> 02:02:06.880
some really great naming conventions in there. And where's Bruce Springsteen fit in?

1837
02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:11.399
He is also the Boss. Okay, that's in a different time,

1838
02:02:11.479 --> 02:02:16.319
different confer he is the Boss North
American chapter. Yeah. Yeah, So

1839
02:02:16.359 --> 02:02:19.960
when when he goes out of the
but he's going on a motorcycle. When

1840
02:02:20.000 --> 02:02:23.520
he goes out of the country,
he has to say the Boss US.

1841
02:02:23.680 --> 02:02:27.000
But he's in the US, he
can just say the Boss and then hugo

1842
02:02:27.079 --> 02:02:34.039
Boss. Final item PlayStation Vita Vita
via Vita. I wasn't really paying too

1843
02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:38.600
much atention to this over the weekend, but basically the name for what we

1844
02:02:38.680 --> 02:02:44.479
were calling the MGP Sony's new handheld. Uh, there's a decent amount of

1845
02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:49.760
evidence and circumstantial evidence that they are
going to be calling it the PlayStation Vita

1846
02:02:50.920 --> 02:03:01.439
Vida v v v I t A
as something of that effect. What now

1847
02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:09.680
that'd be vita d Oh, you're
right, I guess Vita with a T

1848
02:03:11.079 --> 02:03:15.279
like like vitamins, like vitamins,
like life in Latin. So they're just

1849
02:03:15.399 --> 02:03:18.560
trying to say this is a healthy
product. This should invest in this.

1850
02:03:18.920 --> 02:03:23.640
They're trying to say from the people
that brought you the bloggy all right,

1851
02:03:24.279 --> 02:03:29.760
the PlayStation Vita for the people that
brought you lots of other badly named things.

1852
02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:33.079
So I guess Patrick did from some
research into this, and seems like

1853
02:03:33.159 --> 02:03:40.479
the Vita name was used early on
as a code name, so there is

1854
02:03:40.680 --> 02:03:47.199
some history there with it. And
if you go to like their dev site,

1855
02:03:47.479 --> 02:03:50.600
but put vita dot on it,
it goes somewhere, right like,

1856
02:03:50.720 --> 02:03:54.640
so they have mapped that domain to
go somewhere, which all that really says

1857
02:03:54.720 --> 02:03:58.000
is yes, they have used that
name at some point. Doesn't necessarily say

1858
02:03:58.039 --> 02:04:01.800
that this is the final name.
But I'm gonna put some brad Bucks down

1859
02:04:01.920 --> 02:04:11.000
that that's the final name Vita.
I you know, I'm I'm now more

1860
02:04:11.119 --> 02:04:15.880
curious for the Sony press conference at
E three to see because there has to

1861
02:04:15.920 --> 02:04:20.760
be some sort of spiel associated with
why they're calling it the Vita And it's

1862
02:04:20.800 --> 02:04:25.880
definitely not I feel like I feel
like when they I'm gonna say it's like

1863
02:04:26.079 --> 02:04:29.439
vitality. No, it's like vita, like the same root word but not

1864
02:04:29.640 --> 02:04:35.880
pronounced like vitamin M Vita, which
sounds, you know, sleek, light

1865
02:04:35.960 --> 02:04:43.640
airy. It sounds like a Italian
sports car or a Samsung phone. Mhm,

1866
02:04:44.439 --> 02:04:46.600
I like Vito, like a big
fat Italian guys. Yeah, okay,

1867
02:04:46.680 --> 02:04:49.479
yeah, the PlayStation Vito. That's
actually the bigger version of it.

1868
02:04:49.560 --> 02:04:55.279
The stains on his wife beater,
that's right. The back is all just

1869
02:04:55.439 --> 02:04:59.199
kind of oily. That's when they
do the PlayStation. The when they do

1870
02:04:59.279 --> 02:05:06.039
the Vita go called the Veto for
short, uh, carried around memory sticks

1871
02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:11.920
forget about it, just download it
with the Veto, they'll definitely be a

1872
02:05:12.000 --> 02:05:14.680
lot I feel like I hear you
Ryan, They'll be like slideshows of people

1873
02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:16.960
running. Oh yeah, I'm they've
already They've already had that though. For

1874
02:05:17.039 --> 02:05:20.079
the m g P roll out there
was like video of people running and sitting

1875
02:05:20.079 --> 02:05:24.960
on busses. And I'm already kind
of light already. I'm already picturing like

1876
02:05:25.199 --> 02:05:30.800
like baby chicks hashing from eggs and
time lapse photography of flowers blooming. I'm

1877
02:05:30.800 --> 02:05:33.159
thinking of like like Central Park runners
maybe see but all I could think of

1878
02:05:33.439 --> 02:05:40.199
is I love Lucy and vitaminta vegamin. That's that's that's that's that's the first

1879
02:05:40.319 --> 02:05:43.039
reference that I think of when you
tell me the name of this thing,

1880
02:05:45.560 --> 02:05:49.960
that's it then, But you know, who fucking cares what it's actually called?

1881
02:05:50.039 --> 02:05:53.920
Yeah, yeah, what it names
brands. I feel like this is

1882
02:05:54.000 --> 02:05:58.319
the one that finally broke me on
giving a fuck about what platforms are called,

1883
02:05:58.560 --> 02:06:00.640
because you know, you feel that
I just talk like the time we

1884
02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:05.760
spent I got past that over the
years of of of bitching about names,

1885
02:06:05.800 --> 02:06:10.079
and I sat down and thought like, well, obviously they can't just call

1886
02:06:10.079 --> 02:06:15.479
it PSP two. Yeah, And
there's no good name for anything ever,

1887
02:06:15.159 --> 02:06:17.920
Like all the all the names are
bad if you sit there, and if

1888
02:06:17.920 --> 02:06:21.079
you sit down and look at them, like what PlayStation was kind of the

1889
02:06:21.159 --> 02:06:25.600
last good one. Yeah, even
that the first time you heard it just

1890
02:06:25.720 --> 02:06:30.600
like sounds a little bit like a
Fisher Price children's toy. It's pretty good.

1891
02:06:30.640 --> 02:06:35.079
Any PlayStation is pretty good. It's
all right. PlayStation became great because

1892
02:06:35.119 --> 02:06:41.560
of what it symbolizes, you know, but I mean Xbox also, you

1893
02:06:41.600 --> 02:06:44.199
know, it's a it's a great
brand name now. And that's also another

1894
02:06:44.239 --> 02:06:47.520
case of a code name becoming a
real name. The Commodore best name for

1895
02:06:47.600 --> 02:06:57.439
a platform, Commodore, Nintendo,
you know, it's the Commodore sixty four

1896
02:06:57.640 --> 02:07:04.000
was the greatest game platform show some
goddamn respect. I'm saying that is a

1897
02:07:04.119 --> 02:07:09.439
great one. Commodore one twenty eight
also pretty good because it had sixty four

1898
02:07:09.520 --> 02:07:15.039
modes, right, the Commodore.
Yeah, I just I feel I don't,

1899
02:07:15.039 --> 02:07:17.479
I don't know, I don't know
what on me got soft, But

1900
02:07:17.720 --> 02:07:23.399
I can't I cannot rile up any
sort of rage about via this name.

1901
02:07:23.840 --> 02:07:27.319
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's I'm kind of with you, like

1902
02:07:27.359 --> 02:07:30.079
it's I imagine that just you know, and and it's why I bring up

1903
02:07:30.119 --> 02:07:32.520
like the Samsung stuff, So I
just imagine them trying to position this alongside

1904
02:07:32.600 --> 02:07:36.760
smartphones and alongside other handheld devices,
which all have really dumb ass names.

1905
02:07:38.159 --> 02:07:43.039
Well they have, they all have
super disposable names. Yeah, because you're

1906
02:07:43.079 --> 02:07:48.720
not you know, Samsung focused,
HTC, Thunderbolt, like those those are

1907
02:07:48.920 --> 02:07:51.439
like fucking they might as well be
chip setting names. They all live on,

1908
02:07:51.520 --> 02:07:55.279
they go away for years, they
all live on six month products cycles.

1909
02:07:55.479 --> 02:07:58.039
They're always about to be replaced,
and you're really I mean, that's

1910
02:07:58.159 --> 02:08:01.279
just the container for what you really
care about, which is like, oh,

1911
02:08:01.359 --> 02:08:05.119
you have an Android phone, Like
that's right. The thing around.

1912
02:08:05.159 --> 02:08:09.239
It isn't as relevant as like,
okay, you have the latest version of

1913
02:08:09.279 --> 02:08:13.039
it. And maybe it's not a
perfect analogy because I mean, hopefully this

1914
02:08:13.119 --> 02:08:18.640
platform will last longer than the average
smartphone. But mhm, I'm just thumbs

1915
02:08:18.640 --> 02:08:22.760
because it doesn't acronym into anything like
what it sounds like. It sounds like

1916
02:08:22.479 --> 02:08:31.199
preev. It sounds like a sexually
transmitted disease, a really bad case of

1917
02:08:31.239 --> 02:08:35.560
PSC PlayStation VD. Yeah, so
you think it would be a PlayStation Vita,

1918
02:08:35.640 --> 02:08:39.880
not a Sony Vita will be PlayStation
Vita. The mock ups which created

1919
02:08:39.000 --> 02:08:46.000
could be photoshops straight up said like
PS Vita Vita. Oh I like PS

1920
02:08:46.119 --> 02:08:50.880
Vita, I like when the last
I like that better than psv We'll all

1921
02:08:50.960 --> 02:08:54.079
be used to it in a week
after they announced it and we'll never think

1922
02:08:54.079 --> 02:08:58.880
about it again. Yeah, you
know, after saying enough times and then

1923
02:08:58.000 --> 02:09:03.520
it's the wei yeah yeah wi.
Yeah. The ultimate example is yeah,

1924
02:09:03.800 --> 02:09:11.520
it really doesn't matter. It really
doesn't matter. It's Dreamcast was fucking phenomenally

1925
02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:13.680
dumb. That was the one that
was the one where it was like,

1926
02:09:13.680 --> 02:09:18.000
all right, I'm gonna drive myself
crazy or I'm gonna stop carrying and I

1927
02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:30.760
went with stop caring myself crazy and
that dumb swirl Dreamcast DreamCatcher controller smells like

1928
02:09:31.920 --> 02:09:35.399
and that's one. Honestly, in
retrospect, I've come to really love the

1929
02:09:35.520 --> 02:09:39.439
name Dreamcast. Like at the time, I was like, this is the

1930
02:09:39.680 --> 02:09:43.279
saying of you hidiots, this is
the dumbest, hokiest shit. But after

1931
02:09:43.359 --> 02:09:46.199
the time, Dreamcast is kind of
cool. I like that. And we

1932
02:09:46.279 --> 02:09:52.680
burned through all the good names early
Commodore sixty four. I wish you were

1933
02:09:52.720 --> 02:09:54.560
just kind of out of names for
everything. And you're right, like,

1934
02:09:54.640 --> 02:10:01.159
you can't in television, intelligent television, You're fucking perfect. You can't put

1935
02:10:01.239 --> 02:10:03.560
the PlayStation name on it in some
capacity, right, it has to be

1936
02:10:05.039 --> 02:10:07.840
PlayStation blank. You know what bugs
me is, Yeah, like the pervasiveness

1937
02:10:07.880 --> 02:10:11.840
of certain but like the branding hierarchy
that goes on now. Yeah, it's

1938
02:10:11.920 --> 02:10:16.239
like, well, video Card has
been really bad about it, Like they've

1939
02:10:16.279 --> 02:10:18.960
made about fifty G Force models in
the last ten years. Well it's it's

1940
02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:22.560
like G Force is meaningless to me
now because I like, I'm like,

1941
02:10:22.680 --> 02:10:24.920
I've got a g X five forty. Oh that's ship. You need to

1942
02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:30.640
have the but FX six twenty good
one the current numbering. If you're at

1943
02:10:30.680 --> 02:10:35.359
least in the current like basic recent
generation, then it's like okay, seven

1944
02:10:35.439 --> 02:10:37.560
series, nine series, like like
it's it's almost like cars, but but

1945
02:10:37.600 --> 02:10:39.800
it's they go weird stuff where it's
like, well this is the hundreds.

1946
02:10:39.840 --> 02:10:41.960
Now we're in the thousands, but
the thousands are not as good as the

1947
02:10:43.079 --> 02:10:45.760
hundreds. Like there's but like they
made that change a while ago, and

1948
02:10:45.760 --> 02:10:50.560
then now it's they're done. Yeah, yeah, they switched that. That

1949
02:10:50.720 --> 02:10:54.159
was one thing that happened, and
when like if you just drill that into

1950
02:10:54.199 --> 02:10:56.760
your head that that thing happened,
and everything since they made that change makes

1951
02:10:56.760 --> 02:11:01.039
a lot more se To be fair, I just don't care about it's either

1952
02:11:01.239 --> 02:11:05.159
it's it's just it's it's not as
convoluted as its initially seems. Like I

1953
02:11:05.479 --> 02:11:09.800
now that I've gotten through two video
cards in the current numbering scheme, like

1954
02:11:09.920 --> 02:11:13.479
I'd feel a lot more comfortable with
without all works. Nintendo's pretty good about

1955
02:11:13.520 --> 02:11:18.880
letting go of their old brands,
but yeah, you get like endless iterations

1956
02:11:18.920 --> 02:11:22.720
of PlayStation products, Like it's like
brands and then sub brands. Well,

1957
02:11:22.800 --> 02:11:26.960
it's because Nintendo is the top company. It's it's it's because it's because there's

1958
02:11:26.000 --> 02:11:31.560
a PlayStation division of Sony that you
know. I mean, those people identify

1959
02:11:31.680 --> 02:11:35.880
themselves as I work for play Stoffle, which is a crazy thing. I

1960
02:11:35.960 --> 02:11:39.399
was thinking, like, like the
DS, you know, they've readily dropped

1961
02:11:39.439 --> 02:11:41.760
the game Boy name and came up
with this whole name, which is crazy

1962
02:11:41.800 --> 02:11:45.720
because the game Boy name was still
extremely strong at that point, but probably

1963
02:11:45.760 --> 02:11:48.439
not as strong as the Nintendo name. You know, It's like, you

1964
02:11:48.520 --> 02:11:52.000
didn't necessarily confuse people by dropping the
game Boy name as long as it's said

1965
02:11:52.079 --> 02:11:54.239
Nintendo somewhere. You're right, You're
right, you can still have that.

1966
02:11:54.319 --> 02:11:58.000
I'm just thinking more generally of you
know, at that point when they were

1967
02:11:58.079 --> 02:12:01.960
introducing the DS, like you're talking
post GameCube, which was not great for

1968
02:12:03.039 --> 02:12:07.560
them pre we so, you know, game Boy was the strongest brand aside

1969
02:12:07.640 --> 02:12:11.640
from you know, hierarchically Nintendo.
Uh, you know, to get to

1970
02:12:11.680 --> 02:12:15.000
the DS and go yeah, no
more, yeah, you know, game

1971
02:12:15.079 --> 02:12:18.119
Boy micro and we'll put some lip
service to we're gonna keep using the game

1972
02:12:18.159 --> 02:12:20.720
Boy name. I think at some
point you just get to a point where

1973
02:12:22.359 --> 02:12:24.600
you have released so many products that
say game Boy on them that it's hard

1974
02:12:24.680 --> 02:12:28.920
to tell people why this one is
more expensive than the other one. Yeah,

1975
02:12:28.079 --> 02:12:31.479
you know, because they didn't roll
out a numbering scheme with it,

1976
02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:35.399
game Boy to game Boy Advance,
you know, discount of game Boy color

1977
02:12:35.399 --> 02:12:39.079
and the stuff, then to switch
to the dscam much more dramatic, right

1978
02:12:39.399 --> 02:12:41.319
of, like, no, this
is no longer a game Boy, this

1979
02:12:41.439 --> 02:12:46.359
is something else. Yeah, which
they could have called it the game boy

1980
02:12:46.479 --> 02:12:48.960
Ds or the game Boy Duel,
or you know, there's all kinds of

1981
02:12:48.680 --> 02:12:52.359
afforable roads they could have gone down
to assume. That's what Sony's doing,

1982
02:12:52.479 --> 02:12:54.479
right, It's trying to distance itself
a bit from the PSP and this whole

1983
02:12:54.479 --> 02:12:58.439
new product. That's why they can't
call it the PSP. They already that

1984
02:12:58.560 --> 02:13:01.199
was a good name. That was
a fun my name for afect name for

1985
02:13:01.279 --> 02:13:03.720
what that product was. But outside
of Japan, there are a lot of

1986
02:13:03.720 --> 02:13:05.720
people that are gonna shrug if you
say, hey, we got a new

1987
02:13:05.760 --> 02:13:11.720
piz damaged at this point. But
I don't know if those people are gonna

1988
02:13:11.760 --> 02:13:15.800
be then enticed by the PlayStation Vita. It sounds sexy, I don't think

1989
02:13:15.840 --> 02:13:18.760
it does. I don't think it
does at all. Sounds like a bad

1990
02:13:18.840 --> 02:13:24.319
car. It does it sounds like
a released in Europe by four car cars

1991
02:13:24.359 --> 02:13:28.479
have pretty bad names, these things
vauxell Nova, so it's like a Ford

1992
02:13:28.680 --> 02:13:33.359
Salsa. Who is it that's making
the leafiss on the leaf? I think

1993
02:13:33.359 --> 02:13:37.399
that's actually what's an all electric car. I know it is, but you

1994
02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:41.960
could just I feel like though you
could just you could smell the product testing

1995
02:13:41.000 --> 02:13:43.720
and focus group stuff coming off of
that stuff. If it's with like some

1996
02:13:43.760 --> 02:13:48.439
of the Japanese only car names that
don't make it over here. I guess

1997
02:13:48.640 --> 02:13:50.560
it's just like I just think,
like Vita water and stuff like that,

1998
02:13:50.880 --> 02:13:56.640
like that prefix just maybe seems done
already, which is why I don't think

1999
02:13:56.640 --> 02:14:03.119
you're ever going to anyone call it
We're in Vita, except except for at

2000
02:14:03.159 --> 02:14:05.600
the target when I try and buy
one and say give me that PlayStation Vita.

2001
02:14:07.920 --> 02:14:11.520
Yeah, and the ladies like,
okay, I know what you're talking

2002
02:14:11.520 --> 02:14:16.720
about, the Vita. What the
fuck is that? Like, no one

2003
02:14:16.800 --> 02:14:20.600
mispronounces we anymore? Like there was
there was some confusion about that upfront?

2004
02:14:20.960 --> 02:14:26.640
Was it why there was strong messaging
from them like the day of the announce

2005
02:14:26.800 --> 02:14:30.720
Yeah, this is how you how
you pronounce it? Yeah, this is

2006
02:14:30.960 --> 02:14:33.000
do not call it the we call
it the Nintendo, we call it the

2007
02:14:33.239 --> 02:14:37.239
Yeah, like all kinds of how
to use this how to use this word

2008
02:14:37.279 --> 02:14:41.399
in a sentence? Contact your pr
rep if you have this question. So

2009
02:14:41.439 --> 02:14:46.560
that's the last of our pre E
three news. Next next stop E three?

2010
02:14:48.079 --> 02:14:50.720
Yeah, that's right. What the
next one? The next one of

2011
02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:56.159
these that we record will be in
the city and County of Los Angeles.

2012
02:14:56.319 --> 02:15:01.000
Do this California and the Breach.
That's true, USA. It's gonna be

2013
02:15:01.119 --> 02:15:03.199
fun, man. There's some stuff
that you guys need to see. Yeah,

2014
02:15:03.560 --> 02:15:07.479
there's some stuff that I really want
to see, and I'm super excited

2015
02:15:07.479 --> 02:15:11.479
about some of the stuff we're lining
up for for podcasts and live shows during

2016
02:15:11.520 --> 02:15:15.319
the three yeah, which we will
be doing nightly stuff you're all gonna want

2017
02:15:15.359 --> 02:15:18.319
to see. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, everyone you I want to see

2018
02:15:18.359 --> 02:15:20.439
it, like big shows Monday on
Monday for Thursday, but you know,

2019
02:15:20.640 --> 02:15:24.640
we might do something that's the big
show anyway. Yeah, big shows coming

2020
02:15:24.680 --> 02:15:28.000
on coming on? Is gonna tell
us why wrestling is so fucked up?

2021
02:15:28.279 --> 02:15:35.079
In an exclusive heart to heart,
will you see, Originally they tried to

2022
02:15:35.119 --> 02:15:37.520
say they tried to say I was
Andre the Giant's son, and it all

2023
02:15:37.600 --> 02:15:41.840
started from there. A car is
gonna crash run over that's right, it

2024
02:15:43.000 --> 02:15:46.359
unmarked black Lincoln Town car will clip
him. And then fortunately we got the

2025
02:15:46.479 --> 02:15:50.439
unmarked Lincoln Town clock car on for
Wednesday. Yeah, which should be interviewing

2026
02:15:50.520 --> 02:15:58.119
inclusive. But it's gonna be hit
by a tank. Who's that big rig

2027
02:15:58.319 --> 02:16:07.840
o? God, Cliff, I
can't feel the tires again. Uh.

2028
02:16:07.279 --> 02:16:13.000
New releases this week week before E
three. Uh, somehow less releases than

2029
02:16:13.079 --> 02:16:20.039
the week of E three. Yeah, we have Hunted Demons for Sorge.

2030
02:16:22.680 --> 02:16:26.159
I'm gonna give my first impressions of
this game, and I want you to

2031
02:16:26.279 --> 02:16:30.079
know. I'm gonna say this up
front. This comes from like the first

2032
02:16:30.159 --> 02:16:33.120
five minutes. Okay, like literally
literally five minutes. We got it today.

2033
02:16:33.159 --> 02:16:35.600
I put it in, I started
playing through it. I'm not out

2034
02:16:35.639 --> 02:16:39.959
of it. It's paused back at
my desk, not blowing me away.

2035
02:16:43.280 --> 02:16:50.000
So first five minutes of Hunted,
oh yeah, some cut scenes and it

2036
02:16:50.120 --> 02:16:54.079
kind of looks like an Xbox One
game in spots like it's well that that's

2037
02:16:54.079 --> 02:16:58.920
a little harsh, but the lighting
and textures and do you know a lot

2038
02:17:00.319 --> 02:17:03.040
Fargo worked on it. His name
is up first in the credits Okay,

2039
02:17:03.399 --> 02:17:09.200
I can confirm that. That's all
I need to that came. M h.

2040
02:17:09.280 --> 02:17:13.159
I have my suspicions about the quality
of that game. You have reservations

2041
02:17:13.760 --> 02:17:18.000
about maybe it will get immediately awesome
after that. I cannot say for sure

2042
02:17:18.200 --> 02:17:20.879
it does have loot, all right, Okay, if it has loot,

2043
02:17:20.920 --> 02:17:24.520
then maybe that'll be better. Because
right now, walking around one shotting everyone

2044
02:17:24.600 --> 02:17:28.760
with his bow I've got has not
been satisfying in the least. We'll look

2045
02:17:28.799 --> 02:17:31.200
at a little more of that.
Yeah, we'll see. I intend to

2046
02:17:31.239 --> 02:17:35.479
play it, probably to completion on
Xbox Live Ricade this week. Yeah.

2047
02:17:35.879 --> 02:17:43.479
Crazy Machines Colin Elements, which I
guess is you see that right? That

2048
02:17:43.639 --> 02:17:50.719
was the box shot that was on
Xbox for like until about three days after

2049
02:17:50.879 --> 02:17:54.559
lan War came out or Elen War. Oh no, miss that I thought

2050
02:17:54.600 --> 02:17:58.200
it was. I thought it was
a pre release gaff because I had a

2051
02:17:58.239 --> 02:18:01.719
copy of a couple days before the
game came out. It it hits shelves

2052
02:18:01.760 --> 02:18:05.239
and that did not get fixed.
And there were like eight people on my

2053
02:18:05.360 --> 02:18:07.719
friends thing playing Crazy Machines Elements at
one point. Oh you mean it was

2054
02:18:07.719 --> 02:18:11.879
actually even listing no, no,
no, nothing next and the achievement.

2055
02:18:11.879 --> 02:18:16.200
It's all fit to lnir. But
just if you look at that Friends channel

2056
02:18:16.280 --> 02:18:22.600
or just like some sort of like
incredible machine style game, puzzle league game.

2057
02:18:22.760 --> 02:18:24.520
Yeah, I think so. So
I think they did this on phone

2058
02:18:24.840 --> 02:18:28.040
first. It sounds like it all
they're doing a summer of Arcade on one

2059
02:18:28.040 --> 02:18:31.360
of his Phone seven. They are
hydro Thunder is part of it. Yeah,

2060
02:18:31.280 --> 02:18:37.840
so last year's some of ourcade is
this year's mob undergo some of ourcade.

2061
02:18:39.479 --> 02:18:43.120
Uh. That's that's all I know
about for coming out this way.

2062
02:18:43.159 --> 02:18:46.600
There was a crazy interlude on the
Tested podcast a couple of weeks ago about

2063
02:18:46.680 --> 02:18:50.559
how Will Smith kind of thinks that
one of his Phone seven might be the

2064
02:18:50.680 --> 02:18:56.040
successor to the mobile Crown when I
don't know, like it was all it

2065
02:18:56.120 --> 02:18:58.879
was all in the It was all
in the wake of this Mango announcement five

2066
02:19:00.000 --> 02:19:03.639
and changes to the thing, and
like if they think if they can come

2067
02:19:03.639 --> 02:19:07.799
out with a sweeping batch of devices
that that sell it to people. Yeah,

2068
02:19:07.840 --> 02:19:11.600
Well there's the whole thing about them
Microsoft acquiring Nokia's mobile division and like

2069
02:19:11.840 --> 02:19:16.520
putting serious muscle behind it. Wait, if you acquire Nokia's mobile division,

2070
02:19:16.639 --> 02:19:18.760
what else is there left of Nokia. I don't know. I don't understand

2071
02:19:18.840 --> 02:19:22.719
that Nokia or Nokia Nokia. I
always say Nokia, but everybody else says

2072
02:19:22.760 --> 02:19:26.360
Nokia. So I started thinking,
ok, man, I must be wrong

2073
02:19:26.360 --> 02:19:28.440
because I think it is supposed to
be Nokia. Yeah, really, that's

2074
02:19:28.479 --> 02:19:33.079
what I've always ass but I would
rather land on it. I would rather

2075
02:19:33.120 --> 02:19:37.600
call it a Sus Nokia and visus. Assus is way harder for me to

2076
02:19:37.639 --> 02:19:41.399
deal with than Nokia. Yeah,
Assus. Anyway, what if one this

2077
02:19:41.479 --> 02:19:48.280
one's oven becomes popular if it's a
good phone, it's not really it's got

2078
02:19:48.360 --> 02:19:52.280
a solid base, like it's not
it's not a terrible phone. It's just

2079
02:19:52.399 --> 02:19:56.000
not as good as an iPhone.
Yeah, I don't like I don't like

2080
02:19:56.040 --> 02:19:58.840
a lot of their interface stuff,
like it's slick and clever, but I

2081
02:19:58.920 --> 02:20:03.840
don't think. I definitely don't prefer
it to iPhone. I feel like they

2082
02:20:03.920 --> 02:20:07.319
just they need to They still need
to, like find there. You gotta

2083
02:20:07.319 --> 02:20:09.959
start with a niche. You got
to you gotta figure out what it is

2084
02:20:11.040 --> 02:20:13.600
that separates you from both Android and
iPhone, because those are both things to

2085
02:20:15.399 --> 02:20:16.840
to consider in that market. They
are Yeah, I mean I guess,

2086
02:20:16.840 --> 02:20:22.200
I guess iPhone specifically has seen flat
or maybe even negative growth in the recent

2087
02:20:22.280 --> 02:20:26.639
past. Android it has exploded.
But I guess I mean I would say

2088
02:20:26.680 --> 02:20:28.680
that, you know, I mean, I haven't had a ton of experience

2089
02:20:28.760 --> 02:20:31.120
with Android phones, but from what
I've used to those, I would take

2090
02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:35.520
a Windows phone seven devices the Android. That's the question they were putting forth

2091
02:20:35.680 --> 02:20:37.120
was all these people who are getting
Android phones now, are they going to

2092
02:20:37.159 --> 02:20:41.319
be willing to buy another Android phone
after this? Right? And if not?

2093
02:20:41.079 --> 02:20:43.600
Like Windows phones up and kind of
seems like a natural place for them

2094
02:20:43.680 --> 02:20:48.719
to land. Maybe we'll see it
does have points. It's kind of what

2095
02:20:48.799 --> 02:20:56.760
I'm getting at all. Right,
Let's let's take it to emails bomb cat

2096
02:20:56.920 --> 02:21:03.000
at giant bomb dot com Anthony from
Bloomington in Illinois. Why does it always

2097
02:21:03.120 --> 02:21:09.040
fall upon Jeff to buy a new
technology for the ability to professionally comment upon

2098
02:21:09.120 --> 02:21:11.040
it? The PSP GO and three
D TV are examples that come to mind.

2099
02:21:11.319 --> 02:21:13.959
Did he draw the short straw at
the very beginning? Does he value

2100
02:21:15.000 --> 02:21:18.520
his journalistic integrity more than the rest
of you? Or does he just hate

2101
02:21:18.559 --> 02:21:22.079
money and buy all this stuff by
a choice? I say it's a it's

2102
02:21:22.079 --> 02:21:31.159
a heavy milange of all three question. This question gives you hate fever.

2103
02:21:31.200 --> 02:21:35.040
I mean, bradn't even buy a
Wii, so I've been surrounded by Weis

2104
02:21:35.079 --> 02:21:41.600
since they came out. Haven't needed
to buy a wash and Wei? We

2105
02:21:41.600 --> 02:21:46.520
If not me? Who? If
not? Now? When? Good answer?

2106
02:21:46.600 --> 02:21:50.440
Good answer? Good? Yeah,
terrific answer. Uh. Next email

2107
02:21:50.440 --> 02:21:54.079
comes in from Adam in Des Moines, Iowa. Over the weekend, my

2108
02:21:54.479 --> 02:21:56.879
seven year old stepson was playing New
Supermyre Brothers and at one point he asked

2109
02:21:56.920 --> 02:22:00.920
me, what are these little numbers
that come up when I stop on the

2110
02:22:01.079 --> 02:22:03.440
enemies. I told him that those
are points. He then asked me what

2111
02:22:03.479 --> 02:22:05.479
they are for, and I had
to take a moment to try and explain

2112
02:22:05.559 --> 02:22:09.879
the concept of scoring points on a
video game. I told them that they

2113
02:22:09.959 --> 02:22:11.399
were used so you could tell how
good you were at a game, and

2114
02:22:11.520 --> 02:22:15.079
when you play games with friends you
can compare your score. He understood,

2115
02:22:15.079 --> 02:22:16.959
but still didn't see the point of
it. My question is this, Do

2116
02:22:18.280 --> 02:22:22.200
points matter anymore? Have they simply
become another box to be checked on the

2117
02:22:22.239 --> 02:22:24.520
list of requirements featured in a ritro
style game? But we simply remember scores

2118
02:22:24.559 --> 02:22:28.719
and games to be the precursor to
achievements and trophies or is there still the

2119
02:22:28.760 --> 02:22:33.079
possibility for points to matter. It
sounds like you gotta teach a kid about

2120
02:22:33.120 --> 02:22:39.600
goals, about getting points, yeah, about score people, about putting everybody

2121
02:22:39.600 --> 02:22:43.799
else shame. I think in certain
games they're still totally relevant. I just

2122
02:22:43.879 --> 02:22:46.440
don't happen to play those games,
like, you know, I mean game

2123
02:22:46.520 --> 02:22:50.879
games that are purely based on an
exhibition of skill, you know, like

2124
02:22:50.959 --> 02:22:52.959
javerty Wars, like that's the only
way to track your progress is how high

2125
02:22:52.959 --> 02:22:56.200
are your points? Because there are
no like story milestones or anything. I

2126
02:22:56.280 --> 02:23:00.440
mean, they could have set it
up to be just time, a wave

2127
02:23:00.520 --> 02:23:03.520
based or like bullet Hell Shooters and
all those games that it's just well,

2128
02:23:03.319 --> 02:23:05.760
you know, but I mean those
games like that game specifically, we all

2129
02:23:05.879 --> 02:23:09.680
revolves around multipliers, and that's hard
to represent with something like time. It's

2130
02:23:09.719 --> 02:23:15.719
like it's it's the easiest way.
Like numbers are are pretty clearly hierarchical.

2131
02:23:16.159 --> 02:23:18.280
I'm less interested in the actual question
here than I am in sort of this

2132
02:23:18.399 --> 02:23:24.799
notion of of you know, the
the video game high score being so far

2133
02:23:24.879 --> 02:23:31.239
removed from from games from you know, modern games anymore that you know that

2134
02:23:31.520 --> 02:23:37.120
that we have shifted that progression into
these other kind of metrics. I guess.

2135
02:23:37.159 --> 02:23:39.440
So, yeah, you know,
it's the rise of the story based

2136
02:23:39.479 --> 02:23:41.319
game. You know, scoring doesn't
really matter. You're not going to go

2137
02:23:41.440 --> 02:23:46.479
back through you know, even even
some of like Gears of War, you're

2138
02:23:46.520 --> 02:23:50.000
gonna play the entire story over again
to get a score, which is why

2139
02:23:50.040 --> 02:23:52.879
they break that stuff out into like
Horde mode and some of these other like

2140
02:23:54.280 --> 02:23:56.959
points based modes that they can kind
of build for that stuff for that purpose.

2141
02:23:58.520 --> 02:24:01.799
But I think it also it also
kind of represents the shift in how

2142
02:24:01.920 --> 02:24:05.760
games are made, is whereas it's
it is about the experience and not it's

2143
02:24:05.760 --> 02:24:09.760
not about skill in most cases.
Think of the thing about high scores just

2144
02:24:09.799 --> 02:24:15.760
being ranked now for multiplayer games where
you're just like that dude drank eighteen that's

2145
02:24:15.799 --> 02:24:18.200
pretty good. Yeah he's ranked eighteen
million points. Yeah, but even that,

2146
02:24:18.319 --> 02:24:24.079
you know, it's not necessarily an
indicator skill. It's indicator time cases,

2147
02:24:24.440 --> 02:24:28.479
so you know, even that's not
perfect. I that's that's that was

2148
02:24:28.520 --> 02:24:31.559
one of the appeals of the achievement
points system to begin with. It was

2149
02:24:31.639 --> 02:24:37.840
that it brought score in two games
that didn't lend themselves to that and gave

2150
02:24:37.879 --> 02:24:43.079
you that kind of base point to
compare to other people. Brought that bragging

2151
02:24:43.200 --> 02:24:50.639
rights, that that sense of bragging
back to games. And that's that's probably

2152
02:24:50.719 --> 02:24:54.559
the coolest part about it, as
you know, is going to you know,

2153
02:24:54.120 --> 02:24:58.719
cool as a relative term, I
suppose, but being able to go

2154
02:24:58.799 --> 02:25:00.719
to people and saying like, hey, I got all these points in this

2155
02:25:01.879 --> 02:25:05.879
game because I played the shit out
of it and did these things that you

2156
02:25:05.000 --> 02:25:09.120
didn't do. You know, It's
an easy way to kind of plant your

2157
02:25:09.159 --> 02:25:13.639
flag and lay down challenges other people
and stuff. You also don't get free

2158
02:25:13.680 --> 02:25:16.319
lives anymore when you get a certain
score. Yeah, also don't really get

2159
02:25:16.440 --> 02:25:22.680
live you Also you barely even have
health bars. Also, you don't really

2160
02:25:22.680 --> 02:25:30.639
get your wars anymore. Yeah.
I hear him in Lubbock, Texas.

2161
02:25:30.840 --> 02:25:35.360
Dear Bob Crew. Uh, Michael
Packtor, who was on last week.

2162
02:25:35.399 --> 02:25:37.920
I'm sorry you guys missed that,
but we had Michael Packtor in the house

2163
02:25:37.959 --> 02:25:39.920
and I saw Michael Packtor. He
said he was sorry for missing my birthday,

2164
02:25:39.959 --> 02:25:43.799
generating headlines him. That's what he
does. At least four on topic.

2165
02:25:43.959 --> 02:25:50.000
He walked into this room and said, off of crazy shite, is

2166
02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:52.719
that all it takes? Just say
some crazy shit. If you're Michael Packtor,

2167
02:25:54.479 --> 02:25:56.000
you gotta look good doing it.
You gotta say it with a certain

2168
02:25:56.000 --> 02:26:00.440
amount of authority to get yourself two
suits, get them pressed. Yeah.

2169
02:26:01.840 --> 02:26:05.799
Uh once. I would actually like
to once again thank Michael Patrick for coming

2170
02:26:05.840 --> 02:26:09.479
through last week. That was a
delight for me personally. You know,

2171
02:26:09.920 --> 02:26:15.840
I don't I don't think he's he's
always right. I think he's often extremely

2172
02:26:15.920 --> 02:26:20.280
wrong, and I think he often
knows that. But I still think he's

2173
02:26:20.360 --> 02:26:26.360
an interesting character with a unique perspective
on this industry that that I think is

2174
02:26:26.719 --> 02:26:31.600
worth considering. Yea, at the
at the very least perspective. Yeah,

2175
02:26:31.600 --> 02:26:35.959
absolutely, he's you know, he
is looking at it from an angle from

2176
02:26:35.040 --> 02:26:39.079
kind of a blended angle of both, you know, the kind of hard

2177
02:26:39.200 --> 02:26:43.000
economics as well as a feel for
the culture side of it that I don't

2178
02:26:43.000 --> 02:26:46.079
think anyone else is doing it quite
the same way. Uh. And he

2179
02:26:46.239 --> 02:26:50.200
was the guy kind of saying they
will find a way to monetize Call of

2180
02:26:50.280 --> 02:26:54.639
Duty multiplayer sooner or later. Just
you watch, and he was right.

2181
02:26:54.000 --> 02:26:58.639
You're saying I have to pay for
multiplayer yep, nine dollars a game?

2182
02:26:58.040 --> 02:27:03.600
Yeah, nine dollars game. Uh, and then fifty cents bullet So just

2183
02:27:03.799 --> 02:27:09.879
like uh metro, you know micro
transactions on the iPhone. Yeah, paid

2184
02:27:09.920 --> 02:27:13.840
two bucks for this rocket launcher.
Anyway, Michael Packer raised the question I

2185
02:27:13.920 --> 02:27:20.520
was wondering what your thoughts were on
which I was wondering what your thoughts were.

2186
02:27:20.120 --> 02:27:24.760
Can of video game console come out
that's just video games and still survive

2187
02:27:24.079 --> 02:27:28.280
or does it have to be a
multimedia entertainment box all of the three sixty?

2188
02:27:30.760 --> 02:27:35.200
What was the number that Microsoft put
out today that forty percent of Xbox

2189
02:27:35.239 --> 02:27:39.440
three sixty usage is non gaming?
Is that what they were saying? Yeah?

2190
02:27:39.559 --> 02:27:41.399
Crazy, I think that's what will
will sign some press released to put

2191
02:27:41.440 --> 02:27:45.840
out. Well, they're also saying
like twenty percent of all peak Internet usage

2192
02:27:45.879 --> 02:27:48.520
is because of Netflix streaming, right, which a lot of that has to

2193
02:27:48.559 --> 02:27:52.639
be coming through the three sixty because
that's kind of one of the broadest.

2194
02:27:52.719 --> 02:27:54.159
What's one of the broadest platforms that
you can do that through? Yeah,

2195
02:27:54.200 --> 02:27:58.360
other than you know, doing it
on your computer, So that means a

2196
02:27:58.399 --> 02:28:00.680
lot of people have to be doing
I feel like any time I turn on

2197
02:28:00.799 --> 02:28:03.399
my Xbox, I could look at
my friends list, at least one person

2198
02:28:03.680 --> 02:28:07.840
is watching something on Netflix. Yeah, I wonder, you know, I

2199
02:28:07.879 --> 02:28:11.479
think it's safe to assume that the
next Nintendo console will play DVDs. Put

2200
02:28:11.559 --> 02:28:15.079
some money down. Don't know that
the we did not I know exactly.

2201
02:28:15.200 --> 02:28:18.200
I think now the licensing has got
cheap enough, they can just you know,

2202
02:28:20.360 --> 02:28:24.360
well, we'll see what they have
internal storage to do, like streaming

2203
02:28:24.479 --> 02:28:28.879
and download movies. Not enough.
I mean, if if it's going to

2204
02:28:28.920 --> 02:28:31.319
be comparable with the existing consoles,
like they're saying, it'll have to use

2205
02:28:33.120 --> 02:28:35.840
something ray right, I mean,
I don't know. I shrug my shoulder

2206
02:28:35.959 --> 02:28:39.600
or something. You could use a
proprietary similar this point, who knows,

2207
02:28:39.680 --> 02:28:43.159
but it needs to be it needs
to be sufficiently massive to accommodate those games.

2208
02:28:43.319 --> 02:28:46.440
I'm sticking. I'm sticking to my
Yeah, I'm sticking to carts.

2209
02:28:46.959 --> 02:28:50.680
I think it'll just be fucking but
you know what, what's a modern cart.

2210
02:28:50.799 --> 02:28:52.799
It's you know, it's an SD
card, it's a USB thumb stuff,

2211
02:28:54.399 --> 02:29:00.520
really huge, big ass thing you
gotta slam in there. You want

2212
02:29:00.520 --> 02:29:05.680
to look expensive and hard to lose. It would be kind of awesome if

2213
02:29:05.760 --> 02:29:09.959
it's a fucking carts, giant carts, big sticks, a ram in there.

2214
02:29:09.319 --> 02:29:13.280
I really We've got to the point
where you know, the storage technology

2215
02:29:13.360 --> 02:29:18.440
for that stuff is cheap and easy
and fast. So the cheap stuff is

2216
02:29:18.479 --> 02:29:22.040
too unreliable. Though the cheap best
stuff like it would be it would be

2217
02:29:22.120 --> 02:29:24.840
more expensive than cart or than than
disks. Still, that's always wouldn't it

2218
02:29:24.879 --> 02:29:30.079
be cheaper though for them to ship
on disks. But put an SSD in

2219
02:29:30.120 --> 02:29:35.079
the box to get the speed of
your and your SSD obsession, it's gonna

2220
02:29:35.120 --> 02:29:39.239
happen. It's gonna happen on the
Nintendo platform for sure. Well you're talking

2221
02:29:39.239 --> 02:29:43.319
about in the console. Yeah,
yeah, it's too expensive, too many

2222
02:29:43.479 --> 02:29:46.040
technical issues. I'm opening the new
HD we or whatever they're gonna call it,

2223
02:29:46.200 --> 02:29:52.079
the HD Vita. It's gonna be
you open the box and it's an

2224
02:29:52.159 --> 02:29:56.440
HDMI cable and a power supply,
and then you buy the game. You

2225
02:29:56.520 --> 02:29:58.879
just plug that ship right into the
cart and that game's got the controller.

2226
02:30:00.120 --> 02:30:03.440
It's got no controller. You just
watch a movie, watch somebody else places.

2227
02:30:03.520 --> 02:30:07.280
That'll be the difference as Nintendo.
We'll call it the Vita. It

2228
02:30:07.319 --> 02:30:11.520
will be the PlayStation Vita and the
Nintendo Vida. But it's one big vitality

2229
02:30:11.559 --> 02:30:13.280
sensor for the movie to keep playing, you have to put your finger into

2230
02:30:13.319 --> 02:30:20.079
the slot insufficient heart rate to continue
to play back. Yeah, uh are

2231
02:30:20.159 --> 02:30:24.959
you dead? Yes? No,
each card is a self contained system each

2232
02:30:24.000 --> 02:30:28.959
to your point. Yeah, the
Wii is the example of its self,

2233
02:30:28.239 --> 02:30:31.920
like it's just the it. You
know, it does games right, kind

2234
02:30:33.000 --> 02:30:37.280
of if that's what you're looking for
mini games. Oh, you know it

2235
02:30:37.600 --> 02:30:45.559
does have the Netflix streaming and web
browser and yeah even they got it's disc

2236
02:30:46.000 --> 02:30:48.360
three. No, it's disc on
the p S three now, but it's

2237
02:30:48.360 --> 02:30:52.799
still a disc on the way.
Okay. I don't think there's any word

2238
02:30:52.799 --> 02:30:56.719
to story and so what you want
channel though, and you just watch them

2239
02:30:56.719 --> 02:31:00.520
in SD that's it. Yeah,
it only does up to forty Wow,

2240
02:31:00.840 --> 02:31:05.440
what are you guys? Netflix on
either Yeah, whatever on whatever system is

2241
02:31:05.479 --> 02:31:09.639
on, whichever one you have turned
pretty much for me, I don't really

2242
02:31:09.799 --> 02:31:13.440
three sixties more responsive, but I
kind of like the PS three better.

2243
02:31:13.600 --> 02:31:16.639
Yeah, kind of with you.
I have not tried the PS three Netflix

2244
02:31:16.719 --> 02:31:18.959
out since right around the time they
launched it, and I thought it looked

2245
02:31:20.000 --> 02:31:24.360
bad and did not perform WELLS three
is nice if you don't want to fish

2246
02:31:24.399 --> 02:31:28.799
your profile out of your bag.
If you have another stick that that that'll

2247
02:31:28.799 --> 02:31:31.520
be why I'll do that. If
the like, I don't want to have

2248
02:31:31.680 --> 02:31:37.280
to the thing with the thing you
have to get off this count. I

2249
02:31:37.319 --> 02:31:41.559
can just hit I can just brush
any button on this PlayStation remote and all

2250
02:31:41.600 --> 02:31:43.120
of them and I'll hear the beep
and I'm like, okay, good,

2251
02:31:43.200 --> 02:31:48.920
the Netflix box is warming up.
Time to watch some Twilight Zone. Oh

2252
02:31:48.040 --> 02:31:52.440
my PS three is so loud though, and that you know it's yeah,

2253
02:31:52.520 --> 02:31:56.520
mine is like into the friend's house
yesterday who has an old bottle p S

2254
02:31:56.559 --> 02:31:58.959
three and his is nice quiet.
I don't know what the difference is,

2255
02:31:58.600 --> 02:32:03.760
but they body knows any tips for
Quieteningdale and the wet towel. We're supposed

2256
02:32:03.760 --> 02:32:07.040
to be slim PS three. I
almost I almost tried to go get in

2257
02:32:07.120 --> 02:32:09.600
on that crazy tart. He just
get a quieter PS three because minds.

2258
02:32:09.680 --> 02:32:13.280
So there's supposed to be something where
like if you you know, cover the

2259
02:32:13.399 --> 02:32:16.799
event end of the PS three,
it'll like go into some jet mood like

2260
02:32:18.040 --> 02:32:24.920
rambles down, yeah, like vertically
upside down like some periods supposedly blows all

2261
02:32:24.959 --> 02:32:28.079
the dust out or something. I
don't know why. When we first got

2262
02:32:28.159 --> 02:32:33.440
a p S three, uh that
that happened accidentally right out on the start,

2263
02:32:33.479 --> 02:32:35.600
making this noise like, oh god, this doesn't sound like a good

2264
02:32:35.639 --> 02:32:37.799
noise for this thing to be making. And then we realized that's because we're

2265
02:32:37.799 --> 02:32:41.319
covering the exhaust port with all this
carpet. I feel like, I feel

2266
02:32:41.319 --> 02:32:46.719
like this next generation coming out of
consoles, everything will be so digital that,

2267
02:32:46.920 --> 02:32:50.479
like you, just the distinction between
being just the game machine and anything

2268
02:32:50.520 --> 02:32:54.399
else that plays movies or something will
just be gone. That line will just

2269
02:32:54.520 --> 02:32:56.440
blur. Yeah, yeah, I
don't. I don't think it's I tend

2270
02:32:56.479 --> 02:33:00.280
to agree. I think that we've
reached the point where your can will have

2271
02:33:00.319 --> 02:33:03.840
an interface this guess, guys,
guess what the set top box dream finally

2272
02:33:03.879 --> 02:33:07.000
came true and it's video games.
You'll just download your apps or whatever to

2273
02:33:07.159 --> 02:33:09.959
your front end. Yeah, well
it's everything, I mean even yeah,

2274
02:33:09.959 --> 02:33:16.280
it's TVs, rokus and like there's
resilient options. Sure, but everybody's got

2275
02:33:16.319 --> 02:33:18.559
one just going to be a boxy
TV, Like the boxy box wasn't enough.

2276
02:33:18.559 --> 02:33:22.040
They're building boxy software directly into a
model of television. When that seems

2277
02:33:22.040 --> 02:33:24.760
like the next step is like,
well, I want all that Netflix stuff,

2278
02:33:24.760 --> 02:33:28.159
but I honestly, don't give a
shit about video games. You know,

2279
02:33:28.280 --> 02:33:31.120
build that shit into the TV.
I know they're talking apps for TVs.

2280
02:33:31.680 --> 02:33:35.159
Yeah, it's just hot thing at
ce yes this year. Or let

2281
02:33:35.239 --> 02:33:37.600
it like read a thumbstick and just
load boot up apps for your TV on

2282
02:33:37.719 --> 02:33:43.159
whatever operating system. Yeah, there
are TV's out there that actually they've put

2283
02:33:43.200 --> 02:33:45.840
out dev kits and they let developers
kind of cow their own apps. They've

2284
02:33:45.840 --> 02:33:48.920
got li Fi on them. Yeah
that sounds awesome. Linux. Yeah,

2285
02:33:50.559 --> 02:33:52.879
you can put a bootoo on your
TV. Can my TV run Doom?

2286
02:33:54.360 --> 02:34:01.200
I guarantee you already somebody is running
Doom on a TV, like the remote,

2287
02:34:01.399 --> 02:34:03.760
the firmware and the remote. Okay, I think we have to end

2288
02:34:03.799 --> 02:34:07.920
this podcast. We're at time.
We're at a time at a time.

2289
02:34:09.000 --> 02:34:11.600
You're saving up time for the E
three podcast. You're banking it? What?

2290
02:34:11.799 --> 02:34:15.280
No, this is? This was
a long, goddamn podcast. Us

2291
02:34:15.479 --> 02:34:18.360
our last chance for E three predictions. This is our last chance for E

2292
02:34:18.440 --> 02:34:22.920
three predictions. What was the big
What was the prevailing theme of that podcast?

2293
02:34:22.920 --> 02:34:28.719
I haven't listened till last week's special. Out of that anything mind blowing

2294
02:34:28.760 --> 02:34:35.680
besides his headline making Nintendo prediction uh
oh about Nintendo getting out of the hardware

2295
02:34:35.719 --> 02:34:41.280
business. He predicted that. I
didn't listen to that. He predict predicted.

2296
02:34:41.520 --> 02:34:43.280
You see, he kind of floated
it as like, you know,

2297
02:34:43.399 --> 02:34:46.600
this is a potential future for them
going third party Sega style. I've said

2298
02:34:46.639 --> 02:34:52.399
that for years, but well everybody
said that after the game. So oh

2299
02:34:52.479 --> 02:34:56.280
really yeah, great minds think of
my life. I left my notes on

2300
02:34:56.360 --> 02:35:01.360
his chair. I don't remember what
else got said during that thing. Press

2301
02:35:01.399 --> 02:35:07.639
conferences will happen, Ubisoft will be
ridiculous. Should we just do our E

2302
02:35:07.760 --> 02:35:09.600
three press conference predictions? That seems
to be just the biggest thing, right,

2303
02:35:09.760 --> 02:35:11.920
Yeah, do you think what do
you think Microsoft is gonna have anything

2304
02:35:13.200 --> 02:35:18.559
big to counter the hardware announcements at
the other press conferences, because I think

2305
02:35:18.559 --> 02:35:20.639
it's pure software from Microsoft this year. This is Yeah, it's really you

2306
02:35:22.000 --> 02:35:26.559
back up the Connect. You've got
gears at least one big major Connect title.

2307
02:35:26.840 --> 02:35:31.200
I think you have to have a
like a fucking quarter of that press

2308
02:35:31.239 --> 02:35:35.559
conference at least dedicated to Connect stuff
they sold. They sold a bunch of

2309
02:35:35.600 --> 02:35:39.440
those. They haven't had any good
software support for it post launch. Maybe

2310
02:35:39.479 --> 02:35:41.200
you sold them already. Move on. They need to they well, if

2311
02:35:41.239 --> 02:35:46.639
they want no, they want to
sell more, they need to keep they

2312
02:35:46.719 --> 02:35:50.840
need to prove it at some point, and this is I think where they

2313
02:35:50.879 --> 02:35:52.719
can do that. And other than
that, it's you know, you trot

2314
02:35:52.879 --> 02:35:56.959
out your dudes that you've you've already
got on the hook, you've got you

2315
02:35:56.040 --> 02:36:03.200
know, Dan Greenawall will come out
and say some crazy shit about FORTSA and

2316
02:36:03.319 --> 02:36:05.920
Cliff will say something about gears,
and Peter Molaneus say something about his balls

2317
02:36:07.000 --> 02:36:11.920
and they talk about the Window seven
phone at all. They tie that into

2318
02:36:11.959 --> 02:36:16.680
their that's on the screen at one
point for the well, they might they

2319
02:36:16.719 --> 02:36:20.280
might want to appeal to the gaming
side of it. I don't think much

2320
02:36:20.280 --> 02:36:22.959
time you get spent on that at
all. I think I think literally that's

2321
02:36:24.680 --> 02:36:28.719
Eco system better than ever. More
importantly, it's a different business unit within

2322
02:36:28.760 --> 02:36:31.719
Microsoft. It's like those are not
the people running this press conference, so

2323
02:36:31.760 --> 02:36:35.760
they don't care about pushing that thing. Is there a pie chart during the

2324
02:36:35.799 --> 02:36:39.799
press conference? Hell yeah yeah,
microsart bar graphic. They have to they

2325
02:36:39.840 --> 02:36:43.680
have to announce something software wise.
I mean, like everybody already knows about

2326
02:36:43.719 --> 02:36:48.399
gears and forts. Yeah. I
think there'll be a slate of connected announcements,

2327
02:36:48.760 --> 02:36:52.440
both from them and from third parties. And I think the Connect ties

2328
02:36:52.559 --> 02:36:58.159
into a new yeah totally something hil
a new dashboardy thing. Yeah, that'll

2329
02:36:58.200 --> 02:37:01.879
tie into the Connect and four type
stuff. I think if the thousand friend

2330
02:37:03.000 --> 02:37:05.079
things going to happen, this will
be the place where they announce it.

2331
02:37:05.319 --> 02:37:07.920
That be crazy and like, so
I bet there's gonna be didn't they show

2332
02:37:07.959 --> 02:37:13.159
this like part Connect party room or
whatever where you're like sitting has that is

2333
02:37:13.159 --> 02:37:18.040
a launch date? That's how was
that coming that soon? Issh? I

2334
02:37:18.040 --> 02:37:20.959
think yeah, they have to they
have to say something about what three or

2335
02:37:20.959 --> 02:37:24.200
four three's been up to, right, Yeah? Yeah, agree hopefully Yeah

2336
02:37:24.760 --> 02:37:31.000
yeah. Do they update the Xbox
three sixty hardware at all? Year?

2337
02:37:31.280 --> 02:37:37.600
New HDMI port it just makes three
D easier this year's model going straight up

2338
02:37:37.719 --> 02:37:41.200
car model on that stuff. I
don't think it's too soon. Yeah,

2339
02:37:41.120 --> 02:37:45.079
you know, there could be a
refresh, but I don't think that's something

2340
02:37:45.159 --> 02:37:48.600
that you really like try and double
underlined during the press conference. What do

2341
02:37:48.680 --> 02:37:52.680
they even do to it? Like? What else do they fixed it?

2342
02:37:52.799 --> 02:37:56.239
Like it works now and it doesn't
die every six months? Bigger hard drive?

2343
02:37:56.879 --> 02:37:58.799
Yeah, but you know, I
mean Sony pushes out of new scus

2344
02:37:58.799 --> 02:38:03.280
with drives like every six months yearnet. I'm not saying you make a big

2345
02:38:03.360 --> 02:38:05.479
deal about it, say maybe meaningful
changes, though, I don't think there's

2346
02:38:05.520 --> 02:38:09.760
much else to do. A Connect
bundle for two ninety nine, I think

2347
02:38:09.760 --> 02:38:15.840
that already exists. They totally have
had that hod retailers specifically. No,

2348
02:38:16.879 --> 02:38:20.840
that's just well, that's that's I
think. I think console target right now

2349
02:38:20.959 --> 02:38:24.399
is I thought I saw some ad
that had the two fifty at two ninety

2350
02:38:24.440 --> 02:38:30.760
nine with keys. That's crazy.
It's crazy is that they're still selling Xbox

2351
02:38:30.799 --> 02:38:33.959
three sixties for three hundred bucks a
pop and some like kind of a lot

2352
02:38:33.000 --> 02:38:35.600
of them. That's crazy. Yeah, it is crazy. I don't buy

2353
02:38:35.639 --> 02:38:39.719
into those sales figures because so many
people are replacing old Xboxes. Yeah.

2354
02:38:39.799 --> 02:38:43.360
I mean, I'm not saying that
that turns into like software sales every single

2355
02:38:43.440 --> 02:38:48.360
time, but still there's still selling. It's impressive number on its face.

2356
02:38:48.520 --> 02:38:50.639
Yeah, it's kind of impressive that
if your Xbox breaks you go back and

2357
02:38:50.680 --> 02:38:54.280
buy another thing Xbox. You don't
just say all right, fuck this cloud

2358
02:38:54.319 --> 02:38:58.719
support on three sixty profile cloud support
where it's like you don't need your profile

2359
02:38:58.760 --> 02:39:05.040
on a stick. That's your that's
your next generational The infrastructure is to set

2360
02:39:05.120 --> 02:39:07.879
in stone. I think for a
lot of those changes to be meeting things.

2361
02:39:07.920 --> 02:39:13.040
I think we'll be lucky if we
see that thousand friend bump new dash

2362
02:39:13.559 --> 02:39:18.760
dash Oh, I definitely expect some
some new well like more connect enabled dash

2363
02:39:18.799 --> 02:39:22.239
because right now the connect stuff on
the dashboard is terrible. You know what,

2364
02:39:22.360 --> 02:39:26.479
everything about the dashboard is terrible.
Everything about that dashboard right now is

2365
02:39:26.719 --> 02:39:31.440
the fact that I have to navigate
just to start a game, the fact

2366
02:39:31.479 --> 02:39:37.879
that I start on a row of
ads. Yes, there they have been

2367
02:39:37.920 --> 02:39:43.440
debata testing some kind of new dash
for a while. Anything new at aside

2368
02:39:43.479 --> 02:39:46.360
from the little chat room stuff that'll
be you know what that'll be where your

2369
02:39:46.520 --> 02:39:48.680
your bar graph shows up is and
they show this is fucking how much money

2370
02:39:48.719 --> 02:39:52.920
we make off this crazy avatar stuff
and believe this? Can you fucking believe

2371
02:39:52.959 --> 02:39:56.440
this? And we continue to We're
opening a new Avatar mall. I just

2372
02:39:56.520 --> 02:40:00.280
can't help but think, like,
what if they got suckered in and by

2373
02:40:00.360 --> 02:40:03.559
the whole three D thing and want
to update the consoles, specifically just to

2374
02:40:03.639 --> 02:40:11.280
update the HDMI to make it automatically
switched to three D. I it's not

2375
02:40:11.440 --> 02:40:13.719
I'm not saying like it's a change
that's gonna revolution, Like no one's gonna

2376
02:40:13.719 --> 02:40:16.520
go out and buy an Xbox.
But you know, if that stuff's gotten

2377
02:40:16.600 --> 02:40:20.680
cheap enough, and if they're going
to be dedicated to this platform for a

2378
02:40:20.760 --> 02:40:24.719
few more years, like why not
throw in a couple of things like that

2379
02:40:24.920 --> 02:40:30.600
to try and maintain the perception of
value and keep their prices up and and

2380
02:40:30.719 --> 02:40:31.520
that sort of. I don't know, because it seems like, you know,

2381
02:40:31.639 --> 02:40:35.399
do a five hundred gig drive.
Other Microsoft hasn't done much with three

2382
02:40:35.479 --> 02:40:39.000
D now anyway, they don't really
have they don't have that Sony impetus,

2383
02:40:39.239 --> 02:40:43.040
right, it's a huge it's a
huge focus for their direct couplure. I

2384
02:40:43.079 --> 02:40:46.360
think if they were to do it, it would be something where they would

2385
02:40:46.360 --> 02:40:50.440
have gotten suckered in by Sony's involvement
in that stuff and be like we got

2386
02:40:50.559 --> 02:40:54.440
to be there and are just now
getting to do something like that. Maybe,

2387
02:40:54.600 --> 02:40:56.920
right, how much? I don't
think I'm not saying that they should

2388
02:40:58.000 --> 02:41:01.799
do that either, Like you,
if they took that turn, yeah,

2389
02:41:01.120 --> 02:41:03.879
I'm wondering. I'm wondering if they
fell for that at some point and when

2390
02:41:03.959 --> 02:41:07.319
like, we gotta, we gotta
get out ahead of this. I mean,

2391
02:41:07.639 --> 02:41:09.120
I think it's not out of this, we gotta get out of something.

2392
02:41:09.200 --> 02:41:13.000
I think even if they had been
doing it based on the way,

2393
02:41:13.200 --> 02:41:16.079
like the three D backlash that's been
happening this summer in film, they would

2394
02:41:16.120 --> 02:41:20.520
not mention that at D three they
like they would be like, Okay,

2395
02:41:20.559 --> 02:41:24.719
this is under internal review for whether
this project continues or maybe they make the

2396
02:41:24.840 --> 02:41:28.760
change and never even say anything about
it. Yeah, seeing that stuff about

2397
02:41:28.760 --> 02:41:31.559
the lenses than the you know,
having dim two D movies because no one

2398
02:41:31.639 --> 02:41:37.000
takes the lens off at theaters and
stuff like that's fucking crazy. Well.

2399
02:41:37.000 --> 02:41:41.600
Also, just like the past three
weekends or something that better. Yeah,

2400
02:41:41.639 --> 02:41:48.840
the two D movies despite having less
screens are outperforming the three D. Pirates

2401
02:41:48.920 --> 02:41:54.680
and Pirates and Kung Fu Panda two
both uh right out performing. Yeah,

2402
02:41:54.719 --> 02:41:58.600
the two d's out out performing the
three D despite more three DS fewer screens.

2403
02:41:58.639 --> 02:42:01.319
Wow. Yeah, and price,
that's that's how much people are like

2404
02:42:01.479 --> 02:42:05.959
fuck you to three D right now, and so the financials are all reacting

2405
02:42:07.040 --> 02:42:09.879
to that right now. It's a
complete I saw Real d's stock started a

2406
02:42:09.959 --> 02:42:15.200
complete cluster five. So so even
if they had been devoting resources to that,

2407
02:42:15.479 --> 02:42:18.479
Microsoft opens up the Wall Street Journal
to Dan and says, okay,

2408
02:42:18.159 --> 02:42:22.959
the twenty minutes, Alan, wake
whatever, I don't know, let's take

2409
02:42:22.000 --> 02:42:26.159
this off. Let's take this off
the slate, uh, PlayStation. Obviously,

2410
02:42:26.520 --> 02:42:28.879
the Vita is a big focus for
them. That one is, yeah,

2411
02:42:28.879 --> 02:42:31.639
I mean that one is like what
ten to twenty minutes of maya kulpa

2412
02:42:31.680 --> 02:42:37.399
about PSN and then ten and twenty
minutes five two minutes, two minutes,

2413
02:42:37.440 --> 02:42:41.159
maybe a gag, yeah, no
gags five minutes. No, no,

2414
02:42:41.280 --> 02:42:43.959
I'll conceeed the shorter time, but
no fucking way, or they're gonna come

2415
02:42:43.959 --> 02:42:46.600
out and make light of that situation
at all. I will put money on.

2416
02:42:46.680 --> 02:42:50.639
I will reiterate my prediction from earlier. Jack Trenton will murder the actor

2417
02:42:50.719 --> 02:42:56.040
who plays Kevin Butler. Yeah,
I will actually murder him. That's not

2418
02:42:56.159 --> 02:43:00.719
a gag, man, I think, yeah, Kevin Butler to murder him

2419
02:43:00.760 --> 02:43:03.200
by strangling him. Okay, I
think you push that off onto a fictional

2420
02:43:03.319 --> 02:43:07.639
character. It's the way that you
know they're still responding to Senate. They

2421
02:43:07.680 --> 02:43:11.040
can't look, they can't look like
they're like, ah, you know whatever,

2422
02:43:11.079 --> 02:43:13.000
it's a good time. Yeah,
he's sony. No, they got

2423
02:43:13.079 --> 02:43:16.479
they still of that at least,
so it's like single spot, like Jack

2424
02:43:16.520 --> 02:43:20.000
Tren rolls up the sleeves and sit
down. Everybody pulls a chair. I

2425
02:43:20.040 --> 02:43:22.200
don't think, you know what.
I think there's acknowledgement. I don't think

2426
02:43:22.200 --> 02:43:26.680
there's apology. We're coming back better
than ever. Yeah, just look through

2427
02:43:26.680 --> 02:43:28.760
the future. I think there's a
great Yeah. Yeah, you don't ignore

2428
02:43:28.760 --> 02:43:33.159
it outright, but they at some
point they will say thank you for your

2429
02:43:33.159 --> 02:43:37.079
patience to everyone in attendance. I
think that's totally right. Yep. But

2430
02:43:37.200 --> 02:43:39.760
yeah, obviously a lot of V
to V to V to via vita.

2431
02:43:39.840 --> 02:43:43.840
It seems like PS three software would
take a back seat because there's all like

2432
02:43:43.879 --> 02:43:48.399
that stuffs all knowed for this year. This will be launching like the next

2433
02:43:48.520 --> 02:43:52.280
day, and Charted coming later in
the years. It would be a good

2434
02:43:52.280 --> 02:43:54.360
time for them to like roll out
more of star Hawk or something like that.

2435
02:43:54.639 --> 02:43:56.959
But I mean, all these games
have been announced and right on the

2436
02:43:58.000 --> 02:44:01.520
schedule, like maybe some new move
stuff. I think I think they'll probably

2437
02:44:01.639 --> 02:44:05.159
do new XMB stuff, and I
just mean like new like better integration with

2438
02:44:05.280 --> 02:44:09.680
some stuff. And I think they'll
roll from the PlayStation network being down to

2439
02:44:09.760 --> 02:44:11.159
the coming back better than ever,
and like, here are the new features

2440
02:44:11.159 --> 02:44:15.680
you can expect coming up in next
year. Here's the core stuff. Here's

2441
02:44:15.719 --> 02:44:20.239
like better friends stuff, better trophy
stuff, better you know whatever, Twitter,

2442
02:44:20.520 --> 02:44:24.680
ESPN, whatever they're gonna put in
there to be like here's Fatus it

2443
02:44:24.840 --> 02:44:30.239
was down. Look how awesome it's
gonna be in the future. Uh,

2444
02:44:30.520 --> 02:44:33.799
integration with the Vita, I don't
know. And then you know, Nintendo

2445
02:44:33.920 --> 02:44:39.280
will be you know, new console
and a lot of proof concept software and

2446
02:44:39.360 --> 02:44:43.239
some actual three DS games. You
think they abandoned the weed or they just

2447
02:44:43.399 --> 02:44:48.680
they hit the you know, they'll
Sward Sword coming to the new Nintendo console.

2448
02:44:50.120 --> 02:44:54.239
Levels you can't Twilight apprentis that game? You can't mirrored level I can't.

2449
02:44:54.399 --> 02:44:58.760
Oh no, Nintendo can't. I
don't think they will. Yeah,

2450
02:44:58.760 --> 02:45:01.120
I don't think they will. I
mean that's that's that's that's assuming that the

2451
02:45:01.200 --> 02:45:05.040
new console will even be equipped to
play that game. Like, do you

2452
02:45:05.120 --> 02:45:07.680
think they will? It's I think
they've said as much as that they will

2453
02:45:07.719 --> 02:45:11.719
replicate all of those controls. It'll
be some way to do that. So

2454
02:45:11.840 --> 02:45:15.079
you think they lead new console stuff, and it's like that doesn't mean we're

2455
02:45:15.120 --> 02:45:18.879
not supporting the wee. We've got
a great lineup coming up about the sky

2456
02:45:18.959 --> 02:45:22.319
resword and three DA come before the
They waited until the last like twenty minutes

2457
02:45:22.319 --> 02:45:26.840
of that press conference for three DS
last year. Yeah, and I imagine

2458
02:45:26.159 --> 02:45:30.200
it'll be close to that, if
not maybe a little more in depth as

2459
02:45:30.239 --> 02:45:33.280
far as what you actually see of
that system compared to the three DS.

2460
02:45:33.360 --> 02:45:39.200
It's like it's it's gonna be the
it'll be the wall of logos, it'll

2461
02:45:39.239 --> 02:45:41.799
be yeah, quick trailer role,
maybe harmonics be on that wall. So

2462
02:45:43.399 --> 02:45:45.280
I mean, if it's if the
system is a year or two year and

2463
02:45:45.280 --> 02:45:48.000
a half out, then it's a
whole like hundred and twenty eight Marios scenario

2464
02:45:48.120 --> 02:45:52.959
of like it'll be it'll be tech
demoi stuff that's like ears, familiar things

2465
02:45:52.040 --> 02:46:03.040
that ye captain Ortega one hundred and
twenty eight taco shells on screen. Yeah,

2466
02:46:03.280 --> 02:46:07.000
that's any other any any other predictions
predictions about Ubisoft. I don't think

2467
02:46:07.000 --> 02:46:11.360
they can go really heavy on Nintendo
tech demo stuff for that thing. If

2468
02:46:11.479 --> 02:46:13.520
it's going to be out this year, it's not out, it's out like

2469
02:46:13.639 --> 02:46:16.959
early next year though they said in
twenty twelve. That's all they've said.

2470
02:46:18.040 --> 02:46:20.280
You think it'll be out before another
E three? It could go all the

2471
02:46:20.319 --> 02:46:22.840
way to Holiday twenty twelve. I
thought it was like fiscal No, okay,

2472
02:46:24.079 --> 02:46:26.200
pretty sure, it's calendar all right. I think they spend a lot

2473
02:46:26.239 --> 02:46:30.600
of time on it. But I
bet they'll show at least three real games

2474
02:46:30.639 --> 02:46:35.319
for it. If they demo one
game, maybe, but footage from at

2475
02:46:35.360 --> 02:46:37.719
least I mean, if if that
thing is eighteen months out, then those

2476
02:46:37.760 --> 02:46:41.159
real games barely exist at this point. But I feel like they have to

2477
02:46:41.200 --> 02:46:43.200
show something. They're so we feel
their software all the time. I think

2478
02:46:43.399 --> 02:46:46.360
like, yeah, I don't know, you know, proof concept like Mario

2479
02:46:46.559 --> 02:46:50.840
Kart type thing like not not a
name like you know, Mario Kart WE

2480
02:46:52.079 --> 02:46:54.879
two or whatever they call it,
you know, work in progress. Right,

2481
02:46:54.959 --> 02:46:58.200
here's what we could do on it. I think that they'll probably like

2482
02:46:58.239 --> 02:47:01.680
it won't be something like Mario Kart. It'll be some other stranchise that hasn't

2483
02:47:01.719 --> 02:47:05.639
been around for a while, not
even Star five zero. Really, it's

2484
02:47:05.680 --> 02:47:09.959
a good frame rate, that's good
time for us, Like sixty four was

2485
02:47:09.959 --> 02:47:15.399
all about how many like carts?
Whatever you're gonna follow them, but they

2486
02:47:15.399 --> 02:47:18.360
could how many ships they get on
the screen at once? Yeah, you

2487
02:47:18.479 --> 02:47:22.719
know, yeah, bring back af
Tero people, people would get excited about.

2488
02:47:22.159 --> 02:47:28.639
Yeah people, I'll dust off my
coffee of dukey and listen to a

2489
02:47:28.680 --> 02:47:31.079
bunch of duky and play a bunch
of f zero. I think this year

2490
02:47:31.200 --> 02:47:39.959
will be fewer uh celebrity guests and
fewer social network tie in's uh calm the

2491
02:47:41.000 --> 02:47:45.920
console but Day, I think no
more Felicia Day, Steven Spielberg, Spielberg,

2492
02:47:46.159 --> 02:47:48.239
James Cameron, the Beatles, I
think we'll go. I think this

2493
02:47:48.360 --> 02:47:52.440
year will be more about the just
the games, and hopefully fewer, fewer

2494
02:47:52.520 --> 02:47:56.760
social network hooks. I mean last
Stogan's gonna be there last year. Last

2495
02:47:56.840 --> 02:47:58.959
year, like last year, you
think about those press conferences, it was

2496
02:48:00.239 --> 02:48:03.479
just like you're you know, you're
trotting out Ted Price and the Harmonic Sky.

2497
02:48:05.360 --> 02:48:07.760
But also last year was yeah,
it was just like motion motion motion.

2498
02:48:07.840 --> 02:48:11.120
There was a big focus on that. I yeah, I get some

2499
02:48:11.319 --> 02:48:15.440
lip service to move. Yeah.
I don't have to do something right.

2500
02:48:15.559 --> 02:48:18.319
They can't. They can't just completely
abandon it yet. Sports too, whatever

2501
02:48:18.479 --> 02:48:26.600
with the motion sports, you know
what it's gonna be like you know,

2502
02:48:26.760 --> 02:48:30.440
and move support in all of these
popular franchises, Like I don't even know

2503
02:48:30.520 --> 02:48:33.840
that they will like have move specific
We had plenty of move games, it's

2504
02:48:33.879 --> 02:48:37.680
just not in games that you want
to use the move with. They will

2505
02:48:37.680 --> 02:48:41.440
just they will tout the fact that
a lot of games you could do.

2506
02:48:43.200 --> 02:48:46.159
Come on, all, right,
now, we really have to end this

2507
02:48:46.239 --> 02:48:50.399
podcast. Uh yeah, we're we're
in LA next week for E three.

2508
02:48:50.520 --> 02:48:58.120
Maybe you've heard of it. Look
first. Then content kicks off next week.

2509
02:48:58.840 --> 02:49:01.520
Yeah maybe Sunday, look for us. Look for us Sunday. But

2510
02:49:01.719 --> 02:49:09.079
Monday is when the press conferences begin
in Earnest and we will be there in

2511
02:49:09.200 --> 02:49:13.319
force. So uh, look for
that then. And that's gonna do it

2512
02:49:13.440 --> 02:49:16.639
for this week's edition of The Giant
Bodcast. Next week E three Like Parking

2513
02:49:16.719 --> 02:49:18.920
Nice and it's stores now.