1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,800 What is krack Alakin Hardwood Knocks listeners, I am Dan fa Valley coming at 2 00:00:10,839 --> 00:00:16,239 you once more without my fantabulous co host Adam FROMWOL If you aren't listening to 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:21,960 this podcast on Thursday, September thirtieth, it is Adam's thirtieth birthday. He 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,039 is no longer a baby, so wish him a happy birthday at Framwell zero 5 00:00:26,199 --> 00:00:29,600 nine. He's actually on a trip which I could not make and was invited 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,119 on rest. As short, we're real life friends. That's what makes Hardwood 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:38,679 Knox so fucking special and sub mediocre at times. Anyway, we're soldiering on 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,640 with our team. Look aheads, we're up to the Dallas Mavericks. I 9 00:00:42,679 --> 00:00:46,840 have Dalton Trigg, who is the founder and lead host for the Step Back 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,840 MAVs podcast. They are also under the Blue Wire Pods umbrella. He is 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,359 likewise a writer and editor for Mavericks SI. Follow him on Twitter at Dalton 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:03,159 Underscore Trigg. That's at da l O n Underscore tri Gg. We get 13 00:01:03,159 --> 00:01:07,079 a great conversation covered a lot of ground here. Luca Chris stops porzingis Tim 14 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:11,519 Mardaway Junior, Maxi Cleeb with a whole nine Please note that we talked about 15 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,879 which big should be starting alongside KP since he's going to be playing the floor, 16 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,319 and we settled on pretty much. Everyone bought Dwight Powell, and then 17 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,079 it was later released as soon as we finished recording that it was gonna be 18 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Dwight Powell. Maybe not as soon as we finished recording, but you get 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,640 the point, so disregard that. 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Dalton, thank you so 37 00:02:40,719 --> 00:02:44,719 much for coming on the Hardware Knox podcast to talk some Mavericks with me. 38 00:02:45,039 --> 00:02:46,960 I think first and foremost, we have to start with the congratulations on getting 39 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,000 access to your personal Twitter account back. That's got to feel that's got to 40 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:55,759 feel incredible. Yeah, Yeah, that was a time. You know, 41 00:02:55,879 --> 00:03:00,360 free agency is kind of like my time. That's when uh, you know, 42 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,719 I get real excited for stuff that's likely not going to happen because the 43 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:07,479 MAVs always strike out in free agency, but it's always a fun time nonetheless, 44 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:12,000 and I was kind of on the sidelines for all that, so I'm 45 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,719 glad they finally got me back. They doubled down and made up for it 46 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:19,319 and verified me recently, so that was that was a good surprise too. 47 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,400 So the roller coaster trajectory and a lot of people don't get their accounts back, 48 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:27,479 so you're probably even left. Yeah, that was a wild two months 49 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:31,240 swaying for me. That's a great segue though, because you mentioned people getting 50 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:37,439 invested in Mavericks pipe dreams and I have zero qualms about trolling any NBA team 51 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:40,520 and I love doing it. It gives me life. This offseason, however, 52 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,360 it just didn't feel like the offseason I troll the Mavericks because the pipe 53 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:49,800 dream equity wasn't there. It was it was Kyle Lowry or bust. And 54 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,400 then even if you were going to contingencies, it was like, you know, 55 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:53,719 Spencer did' will be okay, great, But is that someone to get 56 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:59,639 really upset over? So do you think the MAVs Twitter seemed disappointed from as 57 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:01,280 many people like following my Twitter or what was retreating in my time and they 58 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:04,560 seemed a little disappointed at first. Do you think the criticism is kind of 59 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:11,439 overblown for their absence of making a big swing this offseason. I think I 60 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:15,800 think the criticism is overblown, But the reaction to how the off season ended 61 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:18,680 up, it's kind of one of those things where like, yes, it 62 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,439 is overblown because the MAVs did make some good moves, even though it wasn't 63 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,240 real splashy. They did improve their team the rosters better than it was last 64 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:30,240 year. That's just a fact. But you know, the reaction to that 65 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:34,079 is warranted, I think, in my opinion, because of the expectations that 66 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,600 you know that were set at the top. You know, Mark Cuban made 67 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:44,519 comments and said that this team needs another like a bona fide second score basically 68 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,800 ka Man, Yeah, basically hinted that Christopsporzingis had come up short there, 69 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,720 said they needed one of the main goals of the offseason was to add some 70 00:04:56,879 --> 00:05:02,000 secondary playmaking and ball handling to lessen Luca's load. And you know, Kyle 71 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:04,920 Lowry obviously would have helped with that. But like you said, past that, 72 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:09,600 there's not really, you know, that many options there. And I 73 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,720 had heard or seen somewhere that Spencer Dinwiddy, even if the MAVs had tried 74 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,959 to get him, I think New Orleans was second on his list past Washington. 75 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:23,079 So I mean, I don't know, I I think the reaction was 76 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,319 warranted given the expectations, but overall, when you look at it, those 77 00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:31,319 expectations shouldn't have been set that high anyway, you know, based on based 78 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:34,879 on what they had to deal with this. The problem with it was is 79 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,439 this was the last summer at least for the next couple of years, two 80 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:43,439 or three years, that the MAVs are going to have a decent amount of 81 00:05:43,519 --> 00:05:47,879 money to spend. So that's where the frustration. They're pretty cash. The 82 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:54,560 real the real frustration is rooted back in twenty nineteen when they when they also 83 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:57,600 had a bunch of cash to spin, and they decided to just you know, 84 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,839 kind of sit on their hands, and and they found out they weren't 85 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:03,680 going to get Kimba Walker, who they went after they waited for Danny Green's 86 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:10,959 decision for like five days in waste free agency. So that that's that's where 87 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:14,319 all this is rooted at. And people just really just want them to spend 88 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:17,279 money. But yeah, I mean, this offseason it turned out well for 89 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,399 him, but uh, they'll have to go out there and win some games 90 00:06:20,399 --> 00:06:25,160 to kind of change people's minds. Is it fair to say that in lieu 91 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,759 of being able to get that secondary playmaker because they just didn't get them, 92 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,079 like that just didn't happen. They decided, Hey, we're gonna lean all 93 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,000 the way into just Luca plus shooting. At this point, I think that's 94 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,600 pretty much what it is, you know, right now. I Mean, 95 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:43,000 obviously they're hoping that they have some internal development from some of the guys with 96 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:46,560 you know, in that department with the secondary ball handling and distributing and all 97 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,720 that. But for the most part, you know, they're they're kind of 98 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:56,439 going back to what they were the season before last, before they tragically traded 99 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,040 Seth Curry for Josh Richardson, which was just an absolut disaster. So they're 100 00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:04,120 kind of going back to the time. I can't even dunk on the trade 101 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,920 because I was I understood it at the time, and I was like, 102 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,519 oh, Josh Richardson just had a little bit of a down year, Philly. 103 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,600 You can't get any worse, and rest assured it got worse. Yeah, 104 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Yeah, that's that's typically that's typically the MAVs luck. If you look 105 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,920 back at some of the some of the signings they've had over the years. 106 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,839 But I mean I look at and somebody made the comment the other day because 107 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,800 I put that Reggie Bullock he's gonna end up making a ton of threes for 108 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:34,600 the MAVs this year. And he's a great corner three point shooter, which 109 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:38,319 is what the MAVs need. I think he was like forty six percent from 110 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:43,160 the corners last year. It's gonna be a big upgrade for them, just 111 00:07:43,319 --> 00:07:46,959 like the style of player he is. And he's just an overall better shooter 112 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,120 for his career than Josh Richardson was. And you know, I've had some 113 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,759 people say, well, yeah, that's what we said with Josh Richardson last 114 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:55,879 year too, But I mean, I mean you look at their careers and 115 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,079 how long they've been doing this and the volume of three point shooting and everything, 116 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:03,399 and I really don't think it's close between Bullock and Richardson. I think 117 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:05,959 I think that's gonna be a much better fit and they'll get back to the 118 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,680 style of play we saw the year before last where they led the league in 119 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,399 offense. Yeah, Josh Ucherson has never been like a catch and shoot guy 120 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,920 or like this motion guy, and that's very much been what Reggie Bullock has 121 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,319 done his entire career on offense. You asked him to put the ball on 122 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,319 the floor. There's gonna be issues, it's gonna be an adventure. But 123 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,600 as someone who could play off others, I thought that was a smart signing. 124 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:28,879 I thought the Knicks were dumb for not keeping him. I know they 125 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,720 wanted to lean into shot Creation, but they had Kemba and Rose and Burkes 126 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,600 and Evans Fournier. I felt like they had room to know not sign one 127 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:39,840 of them and keep Bullock because he was also their best perimeter defender last year, 128 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,919 and so you are getting that I'm an addition to pairing with Dory Finney 129 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:46,320 Smith. I liked the Sterling Ground addition too. He had a quietly good 130 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,120 season in Houston last year, ran some point for them, and then someone 131 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:52,399 else who I don't think he's gonna give you any like tertiary shot Creation in 132 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,799 real, meaningful minutes, but as someone who can play off Luca and then 133 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,240 again also defend and defend up like he defends bigger than he actually is. 134 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:03,399 No, those were not home runs, but I thought they were shrewd signings 135 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:07,120 in an offseason where just didn't feel like the MAVs had any other realistic options. 136 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,399 Yeah, I mean, you look at that playoff series against the Clippers 137 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,679 and they pushed them to seven games. It really shouldn't even go into seven 138 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,080 games because you know, Luca, he was subbed out way too early in 139 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,399 that Game three where they were up so big and lost the lead and all 140 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,480 that. But as that series went on, you got to looking at the 141 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,720 roster and it's like, Okay, what can they do different here to kind 142 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:35,879 of kind of put them over the top against this Clippers team. And it's 143 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,039 just like they just ran out of options. They just didn't really they didn't 144 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:43,639 really have anybody to throw out there, like like Reggie Bullock or Sterling Brown. 145 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:46,399 So it'll be great to have him on the team this year. You 146 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:50,720 know, it's two very capable players. Like you said, it's not it's 147 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:54,960 not like a home run type signing. Both guys have really flown under the 148 00:09:56,039 --> 00:10:00,279 radar in my opinion, at least from like an overall league perspect active. 149 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,200 I think most MATHS fans have kind of come around to the idea today. 150 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,600 You know, these guys are gonna help a good bit. But I mean, 151 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:11,200 I'm really excited for him personally. I think anybody who plays with Luca, 152 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,399 especially if you can shoot. The three is gonna benefit even more from 153 00:10:15,399 --> 00:10:18,799 that, So I'm excited to see what they can do. Is there any 154 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,679 one of this roster that you can see even graduating into a fact simile of 155 00:10:22,759 --> 00:10:26,960 like that second option that Luca needs, And I think I would narrow it 156 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,679 down and just so we can actually talk about these players, it feels like 157 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,440 it would be Jellen Brunson or Tim Hardaway Junior is the closest they would come, 158 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,840 and just that's it. Or do you see anyone else on this roster 159 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,360 that would potentially be an option there you're talking about just like from an overall 160 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:45,759 scoring like shots. We know Jellen Brunson can put like real pressure on the 161 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,279 rim, but you need someone else on this team, in my opinion, 162 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:50,639 to hit off the dribble jumpers. And Jason Kidd can talk about Christops pulling 163 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,159 up from mid range, I don't want to see it. And until it 164 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,159 starts happening and those jumpers start falling, I'm probably gonna think that Brunson or 165 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,120 Hardaway Juniors their second best chance at having But I would call a legitimate number 166 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,919 two options, someone who's not so dependent on Luca to have their their offense 167 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:13,519 generated yeah, I think at this point and Tim Hardaway Junior he's made he's 168 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,399 made stride since he came over from New York and that that KP trade a 169 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,120 couple of years ago, but you mean the Tim Hardaway Junior trade. The 170 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Tim Hardaway Junior trade is what it turned out to be. Yeah, So 171 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,360 I mean he's been great. He was just like a volume three point chucker 172 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,120 at one point, but now he's taking smarter three point shots. He's worked 173 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,039 with God Sham God on his dribbling and everything, so he's become better in 174 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,919 that department. It's not something that he's going to do regularly, but he's 175 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,279 capable of, you know, driving past people and getting too the rim. 176 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:50,480 And he had some thunderous dunks last year and that's always fun when he breaks 177 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:52,480 one of those out. But I think if I had to pick one, 178 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:56,559 I would go with Jalen Brunson just because of his age. You know, 179 00:11:56,639 --> 00:12:01,240 he's a good bit younger than Hardaway Junior. He's gotten if you look at 180 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,200 his stats since his rookie year, he's gotten better every single season. So 181 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:09,759 there's no reason for me to believe that he won't get better again this season. 182 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:13,639 And he almost had fifty forty ninety efficiency last year, so he was 183 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,480 really efficient. There were times, especially in that Clippers series, where he 184 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,720 would take on a guy like Paul George and just he's like a bowling ball. 185 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,039 He just like kind of throwing him off of him and get to the 186 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,200 rim and hit a hit, a contested layup or something like that. So 187 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:31,720 I think if I had to pick between the two, I feel more confident 188 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:37,519 saying that, you know, Jalen Brunson could eventually, you know, grow 189 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:41,320 into that role. But I still would like to see them Avs address that 190 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,039 by either a trade or a Gore and Drogic buy out, you know, 191 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,840 something like that. I would like to see them add to that a little 192 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:52,440 bit, even if it's not, you know, adding an actual star. 193 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:56,240 Yeah, I think i'd agree with you, which is based off also how 194 00:12:56,279 --> 00:13:01,159 Jalen Brunson played last year. His playoff performance worried me a little bit, 195 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,559 but it's such a small sample that you can't, I guess, read too 196 00:13:03,639 --> 00:13:05,639 much into it. I would agree with you. They need to figure out 197 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:09,360 a way to get someone else in there. I would be shocked if go 198 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:11,399 On Drogets gets brought out this season. I think the Raptors would have to 199 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:16,080 be just terrible, or maybe he's so bad that they buy him out. 200 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,120 But that does feel like a very much middle of the season development. Some 201 00:13:20,159 --> 00:13:24,080 players in the league, it gets to a point where they're so good it's 202 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,240 tough to imagine what they look like if they're better, But they're also so 203 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,519 young that it's like, Okay, they didn't peak. Luca is one of 204 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:35,200 those guys MVP candidate could just do everything on offense. What does a better 205 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:37,759 version of Luca Donchee look like at this point? Is it one that can 206 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:43,120 actually get some rest? But I mean, it's really funny because I just 207 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:50,240 wrote a training camp profile on Luca for Dallas Basketball dot Com a few days 208 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:54,320 ago and gave him a little preview at the front, at the front part 209 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,240 of it, and then on the back end, it was like, okay, 210 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,639 expectations for Luca this season. It was almost humorous because you get to 211 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,440 look at what he's done over the last three years, especially last two, 212 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:11,360 being a All NBA First Team guy two years in a row, almost average 213 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,320 a triple double last year, really improved his three point shooting. He was 214 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:20,080 thirty five percent overall from the season, but you know, from I think 215 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,399 the last almost forty games of that season. Last year he shot thirty seven 216 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:31,799 percent. So that's that's continuing to get better. I mean, honestly, 217 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,159 I don't really know. I mean, the expectations are kind of the same 218 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,440 from an overall production standpoint, but you know, there's still areas where he 219 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,480 can improve. The free The free throw shooting has been a problem. Uh. 220 00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:48,000 You know, for a guy of his stature shooting and getting to the 221 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,679 line nearly eight times per game for his career so far, shooting seventy three 222 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,639 percent from the line just isn't gonna cut it. He's got to improve there. 223 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,639 He's got to work on controlling his emotions. He got some silly technicals, 224 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:03,320 almost got to a point where he was suspended, you know, towards 225 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,399 the end of the season because of that. So he's got to get that. 226 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,559 He's got to work on that. But yeah, I mean, adding 227 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:18,000 a guy, adding two guys like Bullock and Sterling Brown can really help him, 228 00:15:18,039 --> 00:15:20,879 you know, take his game to the next level, like you said, 229 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,080 just by maybe giving him a little bit more risk. You know, 230 00:15:22,159 --> 00:15:26,799 maybe you have more games that you're able to put away early and he's not 231 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,360 having to do every single thing for every single minute he's out there in order 232 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,480 to get you a win, because the U should rate really is a problem 233 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:37,120 right now, and that's what they need to focus on, you know, 234 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,519 cutting back on this year, he can still give you the production that he's 235 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:43,639 given you with the less you should rate, right, And that's what So 236 00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:48,720 when I was racking my brain trying to think about this, basically everything you 237 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:50,559 said, what I came up with was Luca plays like the same amount of 238 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:54,720 minutes, but he's averaging thirty and ten because his efficiency has gone up, 239 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,879 his teammates thirty more of his shots, and maybe his turnovers has come down 240 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,080 because there's just more room for him to offer rate. And that's you know 241 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,279 that it doesn't seem like that much of a leap because he averaged like twenty 242 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:07,840 seven and nine last year essentially, But if you're getting thirty and ten from 243 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:11,519 him on better efficiency and thirty four thirty five minutes, that's fucking incredible. 244 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,720 So Jason Kidd already mentioned did not take long that he plans to play Christops 245 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Porzinkis at the four. What do you make of that? Do you support 246 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:26,639 that decision? He's also says that he wants to encourage him to take different 247 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:29,399 shots. I know Christops is more efficient in the post. Last year, 248 00:16:29,559 --> 00:16:33,080 he was still not efficient in the post overall, Like it just wasn't that. 249 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:33,960 So what do you sort of make of that? And the follow up 250 00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:37,320 that would be if if Christops is gonna play a bunch of power forward, 251 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,399 who's the big on the Mavericks roster that needs to lock the most time beside 252 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,600 him in those stretches, Well, the first part of that is I'm okay 253 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:52,480 with it. If if if saying like Maxi cleba if he is the Maxie 254 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Cleber that we saw pre COVID because he got COVID last year and when he 255 00:16:56,519 --> 00:17:00,159 came back from that and he was dealing with and Achille issue towards the end 256 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:03,119 of last season two, he just wasn't the same. I mean, his 257 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,519 percentage, his shooting percentages were okay, but on the on the defensive end, 258 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:11,240 it was just like he was washed. So I'm hoping that was just 259 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:14,559 like a lingering because I mean I had COVID the end of last year, 260 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,160 and it took me like two or three months before I was like completely right, 261 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,680 you know, I was still up and going around and everything. But 262 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,759 it it took me, I know it and everybody you know. It affects 263 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:30,799 him differently, but using Heilers now, so like it's right, the impact 264 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:33,480 of it is really yeah for sure. Yeah. So I mean if he 265 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:37,640 comes back and he's like his his pre covid self where he can he's a 266 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,400 really good rim protector and he can still go out there and defend on the 267 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,920 perimeter every now and then if he needs to, then you know, putting 268 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,799 him at the five and KP at the four, I'd be okay with that, 269 00:17:49,519 --> 00:17:52,839 you know. I think we're at a point right now with this MAVs 270 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:59,279 roster though that I don't I don't think a lineup is going to be set 271 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:03,160 in stone throughout the season. I think it's going to depend on matchups, 272 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:08,599 you know, because it's like it's like say the Utah Jazz when when the 273 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:14,160 when the MAVs played them last year, Uh, they really benefited by having 274 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,519 KP at the five and Doran Phinney Smith at the four, you know, 275 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,000 drawing out Gobert to the three point line and everything, so that that works 276 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,079 well for him. I think we'll see a lot of that this season, 277 00:18:23,079 --> 00:18:27,079 where you have a starting lineup of like Luca, Tim Hardaway, Junior Bullock, 278 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,240 during Phinney Smith and KP. But you know, it just depends on 279 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,559 who they're playing. I don't necessarily like KP at the four. I think 280 00:18:37,559 --> 00:18:41,359 he's better as a five if he's completely healthy, which he seems to be 281 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:48,920 now because this has been talked about on MAVs Twitter and just MAVs fans everywhere 282 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,720 the entire offseason. But this has really been like his first fully healthy off 283 00:18:52,759 --> 00:18:56,559 season ever, Like he was the biggest off season addition. It was Christop 284 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:00,880 this summer workouts. Yeah, I mean that that really was it, because 285 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:06,799 you know, usually he's rehabbing some kind of injury he suffered uh during the 286 00:19:06,799 --> 00:19:11,440 previous season and then he's playing catchup getting into shape and it takes him, 287 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,559 you know, a month into the season before we start seeing better production from 288 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:18,440 him. So that shouldn't be an issue this year. And if all that 289 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:22,480 is the case, then you know, I don't have a problem with it, 290 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:25,240 but we'll see how it goes. I prefer him at the five, 291 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,680 but you know, if he plays at the four and Max he's okay, 292 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:34,359 that's why you run And this one flies under the radar, And I know 293 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:40,720 people have mixed opinions on this guy, but Willie Collie Stein, he had 294 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:45,559 some really good UH two men line up numbers with KP last year before they 295 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:51,559 hit that stretch where pretty much everyone on the team got COVID and missed three 296 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:56,839 weeks. They had some games where KP and Willie were playing together and the 297 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,440 defense was incredible and the offense really wasn't like that much either. So that 298 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,240 would be something I'd be interested in seeing too. I don't know, I 299 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,559 don't know how much Kylie Stein can sustain, you know, at that level 300 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:11,799 of play, like if they do it for a long period of games, 301 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:15,640 but it'd be something I'd like them to stick with as long as it works. 302 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:21,039 Yeah, I would prefer Kleiba just functionally because then you have both of 303 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:23,079 those guys in space the thorn. If you do want kristophs pisiness to vary 304 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:29,160 up is offensive usage, Collie Stein is going to be occupying, like you 305 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,480 know, Christops is gonna have room to just dribble into the lane or as 306 00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:34,200 much room and you definitely can't necessarily post them up in those situations. And 307 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,079 also the Kleeba Porzingis minutes in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. It never made 308 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:41,680 sense to me because those two makes so much sense together on the court, 309 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,000 and the splits weren't great. They kind of turned a corner towards the end 310 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 of the year and then that kept up. Like I looked up the data 311 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,079 the minutes we're good with those two last year, so I like that fit 312 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,559 better. But I did see on maps Twitter that a lot of them, 313 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:55,160 and I'm assuming it's because of that two men data you mentioned, we're very 314 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,119 high. I'm like, oh, it needs to be Calli Stein next to 315 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,240 kp Maybe that's better defensively because I've always used clear, but like he's like 316 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:03,200 this, he's like a rim protective. He's like a supermobile big where he 317 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,640 just might be better, like they used him to like guard Kauai at points 318 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,319 and in previous matchups. So maybe you trust Cauli Stein Moore is like that 319 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,160 back line protection. But like also maybe Chris Osporzinki should be doing that more. 320 00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:18,000 So I'm just I'm surprised that mass Twitter was so married to the idea 321 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:23,039 of like Cauli Stein and Porzingis playing minutes together. It's more of an athletic 322 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:30,839 athleticism thing too, because you know you can throw lobs to Willie. You 323 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,599 know that he's already you know he's a good defender, and you know his 324 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:37,400 his his stats back that up, you know every time, or at least 325 00:21:37,759 --> 00:21:42,240 you know his plus minuster. He's like a he's like an advanced stats darling, 326 00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:47,839 so to speak. But I don't know. I, like I said 327 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,359 earlier, if Kleiba is healthy and he gets back to how he was defensively 328 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,920 before he had all of his issues last year, that would be my first 329 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,759 option there. But if it's not, if he looks like the Cleba towards 330 00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:02,440 the end of the year on that end of the court, and you know 331 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,559 it's causing issues having KP at the four, and you're and if Jason Kidd 332 00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:08,720 is determined to keep him at the four, then I think you have to 333 00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:11,720 make a move, and you know, try Willie Collistein for a little bit. 334 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,319 I guess maybe I just have PTSD from seeing Willie Collistein is too many 335 00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:21,240 bunnies at the rim over the course. He has look, he has his 336 00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:25,920 moments where you know it really head scratching moments. Is kind of frustrating and 337 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,480 everything, But you know, from an overall standpoint, it just seems like 338 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,640 when he's on the court, even with those miscues, it seems like the 339 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:41,000 team overall ends up performing better in those minutes for whatever reasons. So if 340 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:44,759 it comes down to it, I'm willing to live with some of those annoying 341 00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:48,839 moments for the greater good. Please don't let the fact that this is the 342 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,400 official We Would Die For Frank Nilikina podcast among NBA circles. But among these 343 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,000 players, who do you think has the best opportunity to make an impact for 344 00:22:56,039 --> 00:23:02,240 the MAVs this season? Trey Burke, Josh Green or Frank NIELICKENA. Oh, 345 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,599 that's a tough one. I I'm probably I'm gonna go with Franknie Lakeena, 346 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,480 just you know, because he died. A. Yeah, he's still 347 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:15,160 young. He's twenty three years old. The MAVs, I know, they 348 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,839 have a different regime now, but overall they're they're pretty familiar with him. 349 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,640 They were widely expected to draft him before the Knicks took him a spot ahead 350 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,680 of Dennis Smith Junior back in twenty seventeen, So I think they'll get a 351 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:33,160 good bit out of him. He has a fresh start if you play defense. 352 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,160 You know, it's just something the MAVs really need, especially from their 353 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,599 guard positions. So I could see him having more of an impact this season 354 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:47,079 and getting more of an opportunity. I will say that it was hard for 355 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,799 me though, because I really love Josh Green. I've been a big fan 356 00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:55,440 of him since they drafted him. I thought that was the right choice at 357 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,480 the time. I still think he has a bunch of potential, but you 358 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:03,039 know, I I would like to see him get some opportunities as good of 359 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:06,319 a defender he is. You know, he showed a lot of flashes last 360 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,640 year and he really surprised me too. I did a player profile on him 361 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,839 recently too, But there were times last year where he would pass the ball 362 00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:17,400 and it was like flashy passes, it was on the money, it was 363 00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:21,440 it was something that I didn't know he had coming out of the draft, 364 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,759 and I'm sure it surprised a lot of other people too, And I was 365 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:26,640 just thinking, like, man, he can do this on at least, 366 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,279 you know, a little bit more consistent basis. That would help with the 367 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,440 secondary distributing issue that the MAVs have. But overall, I'm gonna go with 368 00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:38,720 Neila Keena, especially if he can shoot the three ball. I know it 369 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:44,279 was very limited volume last year for him shooting the three, but if he 370 00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:48,160 can shoot over forty percent from three and play the kind of defense he plays, 371 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,799 he's gonna have an impact from the moment he gets his first opportunity. 372 00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:56,119 I've long thought, in actual seriousness, that he is a three in d 373 00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:59,759 wing that people just viewed as a guard and they couldn't find the right role 374 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,319 for in New York, even though I think it was staring them in the 375 00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,319 face. So I hope he gets run with them, and I will I 376 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:08,880 would die for fred Nila Keena at this point, but Josh John, I'll 377 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,920 say that, Please go ahead, No, I'll say this. I do 378 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,400 think he's gonna because the MAVs have sixteen guaranteed roster's right now, and I 379 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,880 would be shocked if he doesn't end up making the final roster. I think 380 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,319 Trey Burke's going to be the guy that ends up getting getting cut before all 381 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,920 this is over with. Look in defense of Trey Burke, the MAVs might 382 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,000 not have Luca if not for him, because he helped the Knicks win some 383 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,279 pretty meaningless games down the stretch. Of before the draft, so they might 384 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:40,160 want to keep him on For Kardikle Josh Green, I would love to see 385 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,039 him get more run I'm just wondering, if you know, having Dorian Finny 386 00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:47,440 Smith, Reggie Bullock, Tim Hardaway Junior and then even Sterling Brown, I 387 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,759 don't. I think I've seen some MAVs depth chart projections where like Josh Green's 388 00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:52,680 ahead of Sterling Brown. But I would be a little bit shocked just based 389 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,559 off the immediate expectations of this team if he's like even like, will he 390 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,119 either fourth or fifth wing? Like, it's pretty hard to get minutes in 391 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,759 that scenario. Yeah, it's gonna be tough for sure, because and that's 392 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:08,039 why I said, I think Frank will end up getting, you know, 393 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:14,440 more opportunities in the guard positions, even though like you said, he you 394 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,839 think his best spot as being a three and D wing. But I mean, 395 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:22,960 Josh Green, He's gonna have to make the most out of his opportunities 396 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,079 that he gets early on. If he doesn't, then he very well could 397 00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:33,039 find himself buried in the rotation again. Even though even though Rick Carlisle is 398 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:36,880 no longer here and it's a new head coach and everything. You know, 399 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,799 we we kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt last year. Green. 400 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,480 That is just because Rick Carlisle is famous for being super hard on rookies 401 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:48,000 and not giving him a lot of run and all that stuff. But you 402 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:52,119 know, if Josh Green doesn't come out this year and take advantage of those 403 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,839 those early opportunities to where he can solidify a rotation spot, then you know 404 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,559 it's gonna get harder and hard to you know, keep keep hyping him up. 405 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,160 But I'm holding on hope because I, like I said, I loved 406 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,319 him coming out of the draft. I thought he was exactly what the MAVs 407 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,160 needed at the time. I didn't think Josh Richardson like you said. I 408 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,440 mean, I thought it was the right move at the time too, but 409 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,720 you know, it just blew up in their faces. And he didn't get 410 00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:22,559 a lot of opportunity. And you know, those those guys, the rookies 411 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,480 last year, they didn't even get to go play with the Texas Legends in 412 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:30,000 the G League and he because the Texas Legends didn't participate in the G League 413 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,200 bubble. So, like you know, even Tyrell Terry when they assigned him 414 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,640 to the G League he was playing for the Memphis Hustle. He had his 415 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,000 own personal stuff going on last year, so it was just a weird year. 416 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,960 I'm hoping for a little bit more internal development from those guys. I 417 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000 do think people tend to scoff at the idea when you talk about players like 418 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:52,319 that for a team that's as good as the MAVs, But when you look 419 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,680 at just what they have in plays like those are the types of players that 420 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,480 you need to hit on, at least until that final New York Draft pick 421 00:27:57,519 --> 00:28:02,599 conveys and you're traded. Asset trove just opens up a little bit. And 422 00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:04,359 I'm not saying because you need to use them as trade assets, but you're 423 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,400 also now dealing with very limited cat flexibility moving forward. Like these are the 424 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,880 types of prospects projects that you need to hit on to deepen your team and 425 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,720 bolster your rotation. Oh yeah, you know, the MAVs draft history is 426 00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:22,279 horrible, Like it just overall if you go back looking at every year that 427 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,799 they've drafted, I mean, Luca and Jalen Brunson, and one draft is 428 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,200 the best they've done since they got Dirk and they didn't even draft Dirt. 429 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:37,160 I guess they didn't draft loose, So I mean, they really just haven't 430 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,519 done that great in the draft. It's really sad, I mean, because 431 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:42,599 you look at some of these tents, like you look at the Golden State 432 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:48,160 Warriors. How lucky they got hitting on all those guys and ended up creating 433 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,599 a dynasty. You know, it'd be nice to just have like one or 434 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,559 two guys that they draft that turns into a really really good rotation player. 435 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:02,799 Now, given they've had guys that they've taken flyers on as undrafted free agents 436 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,119 like Dorian Finney Smith and Maxi Cleland that have, you know, they've worked 437 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,880 with and developed and turned them into something. But it'd be nice to have 438 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 a guy, you know, a first round pick like Josh Green or a 439 00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:18,000 fringe first round pick like Tyrell Terry, have a really good second year and 440 00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:23,880 just keep developing, developing, and then you have a really good asset on 441 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,720 a rookie deal that you can you know, even if you don't keep them 442 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,720 on, at least you'll have a guy that can produce and you could potentially 443 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:36,960 use in trade packages, and then all of my pipe dream trade ideas won't 444 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,920 be such pipe dreams. Then is there any insight aside from what we know 445 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,279 about Christospers, they gets into what we can maybe expect differently from the MAVs 446 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,680 under Jason Kidd. Is it maybe actually getting out in transition? Is he 447 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:52,519 going to bring back that wildly aggressive I don't even know what the word would 448 00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,920 be. I don't want to say ineffective, but very risky defensive style that 449 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,319 we saw him champion in Milwaukee. Any clues they are just of what we 450 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,359 could expect, you know, if there's just a major functional point that that 451 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,039 you expect the MAVs to sort of go about differently with Jason Kidd at the 452 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:14,880 helm, given given the off season and adding guys like Bullock and h Sterling 453 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,039 Brown And I mean, I don't know how the center rotation stuff is going 454 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,960 to turn out, but I really like some of the stuff I saw from 455 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,160 Moses Brown last year. You know that's they traded Josh Richardson to Boston to 456 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,960 get Moses Brown, and that he may not even be on the roster by 457 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,039 the time the season starts, but sometimes looks like he's waiting through cement, 458 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:37,680 but like he's yeah, I might be Yeah. The thing I've liked is, 459 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:40,920 you know, so far the first through the first day of training camp. 460 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,559 The other day, they showed him getting advice from Tyson Chandler, who's 461 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,079 at MAVs camp, you know, coaching him up. So I think if 462 00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:52,400 you're going to learn from somebody, you know, former mav that that helped 463 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,960 lead the team to a championship, that helps a lot. But anyway, 464 00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,960 I think the main thing with Jason Kidd is, like you said, they're 465 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,920 gonna get out and run more. They're not gonna have near as much play 466 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,960 calling as you know what they did at times with Rick Carlisle, and I've 467 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,680 kind of joked and said that's because you probably don't want kids calling a bunch 468 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,880 of plays, given given his previous head coaching history. But you know, 469 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,720 maybe he'll surprise a bunch of people there. But when you have a guy 470 00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:26,240 like Luca who sees the floor the way he does and he's able to create 471 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,079 his own shot, he can get past the guy and see another guy in 472 00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,680 a corner, or you know, he can create stuff that you don't have 473 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,200 to call plays for. So I think they will get out and run a 474 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,240 lot more this season. And Luca, I don't know if you saw him 475 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,759 for his media day stuff. But I mean he's in the best shape he's 476 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:48,160 ever been for a for a preseason. I saw the I saw the picture 477 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,880 of comparison. I don't know how on Twitter. Yeah, he does look 478 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,240 like he's in he's in really good shape. Yeah he was not. He 479 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,759 was not in you know, prime NBA shape starting last season, and his 480 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,960 shooting percentages really struggle. And that's one reason why he didn't shoot more than 481 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,960 thirty five percent for the year from three because it was so awful the first 482 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,960 month and a half that it just was it was playing catch up from there. 483 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,720 But I think he kind of took that to heart. He played for 484 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,799 Slovenia in a great Olympics run this off season, and I think he really 485 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:24,519 took it to heart how he started last year. So I think we're gonna 486 00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:29,519 see, you know, pedal to the metal from the very very beginning of 487 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,000 this year from Luca. But so and I think that'll help with you know, 488 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,359 like I said, the style difference this year for the MAVs. I 489 00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:38,960 think they will get out and transition more and get a lot more easy buckets 490 00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:44,039 because of that. We've reached the cookie cutter portion of the podcast. These 491 00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,440 are questions that I asked in every look ahead who and this one. I 492 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,799 know it can change based on what happens in the season. As of right 493 00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:52,000 now, who would you think is the most likely player to be traded from 494 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,799 this roster? And we've already talked about what we know they need most. 495 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,480 Is there a player that springs to mind that you would realistically like to see 496 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:06,319 them target on the trade market? I'd say, I want to say Dwight 497 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,400 Powell, just because I would like to see Dwight Powell traded. What is 498 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,240 the attachment to Dwight Powell with it? Is it just a cultural touchdown thing. 499 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,799 I don't think there's an attachment to him as much of an attachment to 500 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,680 him now as there was, you know, during the Rick Carlisle era and 501 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:25,200 Donnie Nelson era. But I think it's at a point now to where it's 502 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,880 like, well, you know, he's making what eleven million dollars this year 503 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,240 and next season, so that that contract was a it was a bad contract 504 00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:39,519 from day one, so that it's just gonna be hard to trade him because 505 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,200 I mean, he's a good leader, he's a you know, everybody likes 506 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,880 him, and he's real athletic and everything but unless he gets back to what 507 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,599 he was before he tores Achilles, I mean, they're just kind of stuck 508 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,480 with it there, so I don't know. I'd kind of like to see 509 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,880 them do something with his contract, even if they have to add in an 510 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:04,839 asset to you know, to move off of it. But I hate to 511 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,280 say it, but probably Jalen Brunson if they don't come to an agreement on 512 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:14,800 a contract extension, because you know, he the way his contract was set 513 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,400 up, it was just a straight four year deal and you know, there 514 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,280 was no option or anything like that. So at the end of this year, 515 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,239 instead of going into restricted free agency like like a lot of guys would, 516 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,239 he's going to be an undrestricted free agent. So if they don't come 517 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:37,039 to an agreement on an extension, as is getting closer to the trade deadline, 518 00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,000 I feel like that's a guy who you can include in a trade and 519 00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:44,199 get a good bit of value for back for because he is he's really good. 520 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,280 I think he has the potential to be a starting point guard, you 521 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,199 know, on another team somewhere, So I think that's I think he'd be 522 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,760 an attractive asset and I think they could get a good bit back for him, 523 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,199 and as far as a guy that I would like for them to target, 524 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:01,400 it kind of gets back into the and you said realistic I think, 525 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,840 which I tend to struggle with and making fake trades. But I don't know. 526 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,119 I'm still keeping my eye on Zach Lavine. I know the Bulls made 527 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:15,480 a lot of moves this off season, and you know, they had a 528 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,800 really splashy off season and everything. But I'm interested in seeing just how good 529 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,480 that team is. Like I expect him to make the playoffs, but I 530 00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:29,119 don't know that they'll be in the top half of the East. You know, 531 00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:31,880 I just want to see how good that team is as it's as they're 532 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,960 approaching the trade deadline, because like Jalen Brunson, and obviously it's two completely 533 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,400 different level players. But Zach Lavine, he's going to be an unrestricted free 534 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,599 agent next summer if they don't come to an agreement on an extension. So 535 00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:52,320 that's what I would, you know, set my sights for. And as 536 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,360 far as under that, I'm really not sure. I don't know. I 537 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,760 don't want Ben Simmons am free to consider. Are definitely tears below the name 538 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,360 of Drew thinking because I just don't see how the MAVs have the equity to 539 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,880 get those types of guys. This would be the more ambitious one. But 540 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,000 if if the Spurs eventually lean into their rebuild and they just decide this guy's 541 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,360 a little bit too old or the upside isn't there. Derek White, big 542 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,119 fan of Derrek White, and you have the contracts to match. So what 543 00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:21,039 type of draft equity do they like Jon Bruns in any of the other players 544 00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,280 in your roster. The other one I think is eminently more gettable, and 545 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,559 I think mass fans through are listening to this podcasts are gonna absolutely despise it. 546 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,480 I would just argue for them to go dig into the data a little 547 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,960 bit about what he does. Eric Gordon would be a great fit for this 548 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000 team. To me, yeah, yeah, I would be. I would 549 00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:40,000 be fine with the Eric Gordon trade. I like the type of player he 550 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:44,199 is. I think he fits into what what this team is trying to do 551 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,079 right now. You know, it's funny because it's it's kind of like that 552 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:53,320 that James Harden Rockets esque type of offense that they're going to be doing now, 553 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,880 where they're just running a lot and shooting a bunch of threes and everything. 554 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,800 So I mean, yeah, i'd be on with Eric Gordon. I 555 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,000 don't know exactly how much he's making, so I have to dig into that. 556 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,920 It's his third year of his contract, is lest is basically non guaranteed. 557 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,280 It's so it's like two years and thirty eight million. The health is 558 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,920 the major conserver when you look at him as just taking ultra deep threes and 559 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,920 space in the defense that way. He was also, before he got injured, 560 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,599 one of the five most efficient finishers on drives last year. So just 561 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:25,519 as now that you're the MAVs, if you were planning on having cap space, 562 00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:28,840 I get why you don't want Eric Gordon on your books, But now 563 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,159 that cap space is gone and that's over, I would welcome Eric Gordon on 564 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,199 my books if I was the MAVs at this point, right, yeah, 565 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,920 And I whatever that average the MAVs still have a I think it's is it 566 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,159 eighteen or nineteen million dollars trade exception? No, it's not that much as 567 00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:49,199 it. I can look that up as we're speaking. My next question though, 568 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,719 is who was the who do you what do you think should be this 569 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:59,599 team's go to crunch time lineup, crunch time, lineup I would go with, 570 00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:04,840 And honestly, it would depend on what team you're playing, But if 571 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,000 I just had to, you know, count on somebody to get a bucket, 572 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:16,280 I'd go with Luca, Tim Hardaway Junior, h Reggie Bullock, Door 573 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,480 and Phinney Smith and KP. I think that's where I think, like you 574 00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:22,639 said, it's matchup based, but I think it is like a crux of 575 00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,519 a lineup. I think KP at the five just makes the most sense to 576 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:29,199 close with. Yeah, I mean, if we're just talking about because I 577 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:35,519 think that that lineup has some good defensive capabilities. Like Luca, I know 578 00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:39,960 he got some some flak for how he played on defense earlier in his career, 579 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:45,320 but he was actually pretty good last year in certain areas. You know 580 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,159 when he wasn't, you know, yelling at referees, but he, uh, 581 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,320 he was better on the defensive end. Tim Hardaway Junior, that's one 582 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,599 place where you know, he used to just be a swinging door on defense. 583 00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:00,480 But that's another area he's kind of improved on at least a little bit 584 00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:04,079 since he came over from New York. Like you said, Reggie Bullock, 585 00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:07,559 He's he's a good perimeter defender and fifth Dorian Phinney Smith is too. And 586 00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:12,639 then KP, if he's completely healthy, we know what he can do on 587 00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,719 that end. It's just, you know, when he was recovering from that 588 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:21,440 meniscus injury, his lateral movement just was not there. It was just completely 589 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,800 non existent. Every time the MAVs played the Portland Trailblazers, I just I 590 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,880 cringed because I knew what Dame Lillard was going to do to him on the 591 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,480 switch, which he does to a lot of people, but you know, 592 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,119 it just it gives the appearance of KP just not trying, when in all 593 00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:39,719 reality, he just didn't have the physical ability to you know, keep up 594 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,400 with it. So I'm hoping that's better this year. Yeah, having watched 595 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,960 a lot of earlier KPE when he was healthier, I think he, you 596 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,800 know, he's not going to be like holding Maxie Cleeve was probably better to 597 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,079 hold up in that situation. But he was not like the you know, 598 00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:58,519 the deer on ice that he was last season as often Dorian Finney Smith. 599 00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:01,320 I mean, he had some really clut moments for the MAVs last year. 600 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,159 Uh, you know, through the regular season, and he hit some big 601 00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:08,960 shots in the in the postseason, at least during those first couple of games 602 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:14,280 where they took a two lead. So I mean, I think I think 603 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,880 having him in a crunch time lineup, and this is his sixth season in 604 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,800 the league, so I feel like he'll you know, continue to get more 605 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,639 experience and be better in those situaestions too. Is there a really weird oddball 606 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,119 lineup that maybe Jason Kid would never try that you still want to see them 607 00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:35,719 roll out? Well, you know Rick Carlisle, he was he loved short 608 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,880 parts. Well, yeah, that's that's not fair because, as you said, 609 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,360 he liked to go with a bunch of guards, so I should I'm 610 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,960 gonna attract that and a bunch of guards is pro fund please? Yeah? 611 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:51,480 Yeah, I always it was always a joke between me and my my co 612 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,800 host Smack Glats and on our own podcast We've You know, if Rick Carlisle 613 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:00,800 had five guys under six feet that he could roll out in one lineup, 614 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,840 he probably would. So now if we're just being funny here, you know, 615 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,880 you look at the MAVs roster. They currently have six bigs and which 616 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,840 I think is ridiculous. I think they really do need to make another move 617 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,119 before the start of the start of the season just to kind of, you 618 00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,280 know, balance that out a little bit. Either get another wing or just 619 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,840 for depth reasons, or you know, finally addressed their secondary ball handling or 620 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,320 distributing that was stated as a top priority. And here we are close to 621 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,480 October and they still haven't addressed it. So I think they should do that. 622 00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:39,840 But you know, if they ran out Luca and just like a just 623 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,920 a massive lineup, you know, just have a KP at the five, 624 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:51,800 have Maxie at the four, Willie Colly stunt, you know, throw in 625 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,800 all the centers there. Just put Luca and centers and see what happens. 626 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,559 I went the complete opposite direction. I would like to see Luca, Frankie 627 00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:04,559 Smokes, Reggie Bullock, s Thirling Ground and Dorian Phinney Smith a bunch of 628 00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:07,960 pro defense wings and let's see how it goes. Yeah. No, that 629 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,239 would be fun too. Yeah. Put Luca center and you know, let 630 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:19,119 him play like Nicola Yokich and put a bunch of smaller defend really not smaller, 631 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,079 but just athletic defenders around him and see what they can do. I 632 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:25,800 think that'd be fun. As we record this the MAVs current wind total over 633 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,440 under a set at forty eight point five. Are you taking the over the 634 00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,000 under on that? And where would you sort of place them within the rest 635 00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:36,119 of the Western Conference at this point, I'm taking the over, uh, 636 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:42,199 I think. And I know that's shocking coming from somebody who's who covers the 637 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,719 MAVs and it's around the MAVs all the time and everything. But I really 638 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,880 do think this team will have a lot of regular season success. I think 639 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,039 the areas they need to address on the roster will become more prevalent when they 640 00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:58,440 get to the postseason. They have time to address that. But as currently 641 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,360 constructed, I think they'll win a lot of regular season games. I think 642 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,639 they'll win at least fifty games, you know, if not slightly over that, 643 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,000 and end up getting in that top four in the West for the regular 644 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,360 season. Like I said, when they do get to the postseason there, 645 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,360 I hope they've addressed some of these issues that played them last year, because 646 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,119 I mean, they were still fifth in the West last year after having all 647 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,320 the issues with players out there, they were one of the top I think 648 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,719 they were the top two teams them and some other team that had missed the 649 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,079 most combined games due to players being out with COVID stop tracking that last year 650 00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:37,280 because it was so depressing, So I think it was awful. Yeah, 651 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,480 they were. They were in the top two. I don't know who the 652 00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:43,199 top team was, but they were in the top there for guys that missed. 653 00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:47,159 Like I said, you had KP recovering from the meniscus injury and trying 654 00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:51,639 to get back in shape. Luca didn't start out the season in the best 655 00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:54,519 of shape, and despite all of that, they still ended up being fifth 656 00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:58,360 in the West. So I think they'll end up with home court this year. 657 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:05,760 I personally think they'll end up being in that third spot when the season's 658 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,599 over, but you know, third or fourth, that's where I see them 659 00:44:08,639 --> 00:44:13,079 being this season. They're feeling, to me is first because the West is 660 00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,280 so wide open, and I think the way they're built to play is great 661 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,000 for the regular season. As you've already brought up as the playoff concerns, 662 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,360 I might go under just because they have a new coach and because I've picked 663 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,480 so many overs throughout these podcasts, but I will eventually do an exclusive over 664 00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:29,440 under podcast. I'll think about it more. There is there anything I did 665 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,199 not ask you about this team or anyone I didn't ask you about. The 666 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,760 thing needs to be really covered, covered, really quickly before I get you 667 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,360 out of here. I think that Jason kids stuff is something to watch because 668 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,880 I know a lot of people have been pessimistic about you know, they think 669 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,960 it's just going to be a disaster. And like I said, given how 670 00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:53,039 his previous head coaching stops have gone and some of the stories that have come 671 00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:57,599 out of you know, how he was towards certain players and everything. I 672 00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:01,159 struggles behind the scene, right, power struggles and everything, I understand why 673 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:07,039 people are pessimistic about it. But if you look at what he did as 674 00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:10,800 an assistant coach with the Lakers last two years, and he's he's admitted that 675 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,760 he jumped into head coaching far too quick. You know, he should have 676 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,480 started out learning as an assistant first before getting into that. So he's admitted 677 00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:23,239 that he's had all the reports coming from you know, people with the Lakers 678 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,679 have been nothing but you know, good the last couple of years, so 679 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,000 the more recent stuff is good. You know, he's friends with Mark Cuban, 680 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,840 He's friends with Dirk Nevitski, who is now a special advisor for the 681 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,719 front office. Uh, Nico Harrison, him, Him and Niko Harrison were 682 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,920 reportedly a package deal for the MAVs, so you know, they GM head. 683 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:50,840 I don't think there's going to be a power struggle there because they're friends 684 00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:54,960 and they've been friends for a long time. So and I think he relates 685 00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,360 to Luca on more of a personal level, well than like Rick Carlisle did, 686 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,559 because I asked Mark Cuban the other day about it and he was just 687 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,440 you know, he was just saying how he thinks Jason Kidd's a top three 688 00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:13,960 point guard in league history, and that uh, you know that his experience 689 00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,880 is going to mean everything for furthering Luca's development, and he can you know, 690 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,320 it's a guy that maybe Luca can trust more in crunch time situations or 691 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,360 at least guiding him on. But because he's been there and done it before. 692 00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,199 So I mean, that's the only other thing I would touch on. 693 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,440 I think there's a lot of stuff that's that's come out, and you know, 694 00:46:34,519 --> 00:46:37,599 even Jason Kidd's personal life in the past, it's been you know, 695 00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:42,239 there's been some bad stuff there. But I think now just talking about now 696 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,880 him with the MAVs coaching Luca and everything. I think it's gonna end up 697 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,239 being more positive than what people think he's in when you look at the on 698 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,360 the court stuff. I just need to see it happen to believe it. 699 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,760 I wasn't a fan of the hire, and just so people don't think we're 700 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,880 glossing over the off courts, and I wasn't. To be clear, I 701 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,480 wasn't either. I want to hire Jamal Mosley. Apparently Rick Kyle didn't. 702 00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:09,119 Ricarlo did not want the MAVs to do that though. That was but the 703 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,880 Jason Kidd domestic pleading guilty to domestic violence in two thousand and one, I 704 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,719 think was the year that I wasn't a fan. Obviously you're not a fan 705 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,559 of that. I didn't think that the MAVs adequately answered to that during his 706 00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:27,159 introductory press conference, that being said to hear Cynthia Marshall, who identifies as 707 00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:31,039 a domestic abuse survivor, I believe say that she spoke with him. That 708 00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:36,599 doesn't make it makes it difficult more because I want to respect her opinion of 709 00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:42,239 all opinions as someone who was a domestic abuse survivor, So that decision I 710 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,000 still wasn't a fan of it. But if that happened, that happened on 711 00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:50,039 the court specifically, I don't trust it. But as you mentioned with the 712 00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,920 Lucas stuff, and there's a very high opinion among Jason Kidding's ability to relate 713 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,960 to players around the league. That's even Jannie liked him in Milwaukee, even 714 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,840 though I think Jason Kidd actively damaged Janice Pros in Milwaukee. So on the 715 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,679 court, I do think it's wait and see, But I think after Brooken 716 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,320 in Milwaukee, I'm like, I need to see like Jason Kidd like adapt 717 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,079 as a coach before I'm just ready to believe it. And that's completely fair 718 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,760 everybody. Yeah, you know that, that's how most people are. You 719 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,880 know, I've talked to a lot of people that's been the same way. 720 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,880 It's like you're you're optimistic about it, but you still you want to see 721 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:30,800 it first. And I mean another thing is Dirk Nevitsky, He's still like 722 00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:37,159 yes, I mean, his opinion is heavily weighed with with what the MAVs 723 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,199 do, especially since they added him as a special advisor. So when he 724 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:49,079 gave his blessing tiring Jason Kidd that was pretty much it. So, I 725 00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:52,000 mean, I know there was a lot of complainting about it, and I 726 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:53,719 was part of that at the beginning too, because I really did like Jamal 727 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,880 Mosley, but uh, you know, after a certain point, it was 728 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,000 just like, you know, it is what it is, might well look 729 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,960 forward to it. Be optimistic because when you have Luca Donche's on your team, 730 00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:08,360 I don't really think it matters about like you don't you don't suck up 731 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,960 Luca. There's something that yeah, yeah, you know, the exes and 732 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,840 I stuff doesn't really matter as much when you have a guy like Luca. 733 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,239 They're gonna win a bunch of games for Cardless. You could you could have 734 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,840 a mascot as your head coach and still win a bunch of games. So 735 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,079 I still need to know what happened between the brick Carl and Jamal Mosley, 736 00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:27,199 if anyone has the load down on it at Damp Valley in my DMS, 737 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,960 I need to know. But Dalton, you've already stayed five minutes longer than 738 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,360 I said i'd keep you, and you let our listeners know where they can 739 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,000 find you and your work. Yeah, yeah, you can find me on 740 00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:44,360 Twitter at Dalton Underscore Trigg not suspended on Twitter and my dad yeah yeah yeah 741 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:50,280 yeah, verified and unsuspended, so that's good. But yeah at Dalton Underscore 742 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,800 Trigg with two gs and then we post all of our podcast stuff. We 743 00:49:53,880 --> 00:50:00,400 have the MAVs step Back podcasts and you can find that at step Back MAVs. 744 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,199 It is a great podcast. Dalton, thanks again for giving me some 745 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,800 of your time to talk about Dallas and rest assured I will be pesturing you 746 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,320 again in the future. So thanks. One's more for coming on. Thanks 747 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,000 Dan, I appreciate it. Good stuff.