WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:12.599 Be following is a presentation of play fly sports properties change guys. They're trying 2 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:34.359 to turn the goal line, but the hands pass upo up here comes the 3 00:00:34.560 --> 00:01:00.520 farding. Now the sidelight shown that I don't expect unconditional support from ever. 4 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:07.120 That's not the expectations that I do have. There's no reason to think like 5 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:12.599 that in my minds. It may be different for others. And I haven't 6 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:21.040 coached anywhere anywhere, college or pro or just been unconditional support. I have 7 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:25.760 not coached anywhere, whether it's here in ninety seven ninety eight, or Mayas, 8 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:32.959 Ohio, or LSU or Ohio State, or Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville, 9 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:41.239 Chicago, Alabama, Georgia, Colorado. Here, I've never coached anywhere anywhere 10 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:47.959 where there's been unconditional support. Powerful words from Michigan State head football coach Mel 11 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:55.799 Tucker as he described no unconditional support from anyone maybe a handful of people, 12 00:01:55.840 --> 00:02:00.879 and he doesn't expect that from anybody. This this is Sparta. I'm your 13 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:08.759 host, Jason Strayhorn, along with my co host Otis Wiley and Jay Uchchu 14 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:20.120 Culprit live with that love of jack on. How's everybody doing today? I 15 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.960 get the false flag on a little lumberjack, you know, hopefully channeling and 16 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:30.360 some you know, Paul Bunny, that's what he's trying to do. Getting 17 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:32.719 ahead of yourself a little bit. We know this is homecoming week, but 18 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:39.280 first we have to break down the game that really wasn't the Ohio State game 19 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:46.439 against Michigan State. Michigan State lose forty nine to twenty to the buck Eyes. 20 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.879 And it was pretty good early on, guys, but it got out 21 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:53.840 of hand pretty quickly, didn't it. Yeah, it definitely did. At 22 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.719 the beginning. You know, Michigan State showed some life offensively and defensively, 23 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:02.680 especially you know with that pick six. You know, what a great way 24 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:07.319 you know to tie the game up. Be in the game, get the 25 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:12.439 crowd that were there supporting the Spartans into the game. But unfortunately we could 26 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:17.879 not sustain that throughout the you know, sixty minutes. Yeah, we were 27 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:23.199 both obviously everyone's there, but you look at we started with that drive. 28 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:29.479 But you think about the noise and excitement. I think the buzz, the 29 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:31.759 everything was there. When you're sitting on the sideline, it was all there. 30 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:37.919 Everyone's in the right mindset. But we talked about this last week was 31 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:43.360 you gotta play perfect football when you're playing the Buckeyes, and so you're looking 32 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.400 at we started off, we just we got to put points on the board 33 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:50.599 if it's the field goal or you got to put them in the back of 34 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:53.599 their territory when it comes to special teams, and you know, we start 35 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.439 off, you know, hurting ourselves and so you know, it's just hard 36 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.199 to catch up when you're playing this big time, Big ten football on the 37 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:02.919 Buckeyes. Well, when you looked at the ball game, you know, 38 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.639 as Jay you said, you know there was that pig six early in the 39 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:10.319 ball game. It's sitting at fourteen to seven, and it seemed to be 40 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.560 a ball game. At the second score that came, I think was the 41 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.560 Montory Foster. You know, you had kicking game issues again. And you 42 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:23.120 know this this reird its head again this week. Missing the pat Michigan State 43 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:28.879 sitting at twenty one to thirteen from the second quarter before things got out of 44 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:31.800 hand before the half. Yeah, that pat is huge and momentum. You 45 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:35.600 can't play a team like Ohio State and go out there and leave points on 46 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:41.319 the field. You can't do that. So you have to execute everything a 47 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:45.720 few weeks ago, we heard coach Tucker talk about playing complimentary football, and 48 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.439 that's comes from all three phases of the game, the offensive, defense, 49 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:54.079 and the special teams. Everyone has to do their part to help, you 50 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:57.879 know, drive this team and momentum and success for this team. And we 51 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.839 fell short in their special teams on that worshit of it on something that should 52 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:10.120 be automatic otis I mean, Jay, you gotta let me speechless on that 53 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:16.519 one. It's hard, it's tough. It's tough. It's tough because you 54 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.759 want those guys to go out there and play their best, right. I 55 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:26.800 talked about this. I was on Jack Evelin's little radio gig today and it 56 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:30.120 was like, no one prepares to lose a game, Like when you prepare 57 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:33.199 all week, no one's going out there and want to lose. What type 58 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:38.120 of competitor goes out there wants to lose. No one wants to do that. 59 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.560 And we talked about this game. At the level of this game is 60 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:45.240 playing your best because of the trajectory of what you want to do in the 61 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:48.759 pros and the next level. This is a stack game, so clearly you're 62 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:53.560 playing in the best competition, so you got to ball out and you know 63 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:57.920 you're looking at you know, our next stat with Peyton Thorn is like, 64 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.199 you know, eleven of eighteen hund thirteen yards and one. TV just doesn't 65 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:05.639 get it. Man, It's not a it's not even equal to all the 66 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:11.680 other quarterbacks that's playing right now. And it's terrible because if we have a 67 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.800 you can't even boil down what it is. If it's lack of o line 68 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:19.600 play, lack of rushing from a running back standpoint, lack of the timing 69 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:25.360 on the ball with the receivers. Is just nothing's clicking right now. And 70 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:29.360 it's tough because you know that we've seen it click. We've seen it where 71 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.879 it's a magic of magical offense and it just goes out there and shows on 72 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:38.399 Saturdays that we're judged by Saturday product. This is the game of football. 73 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:42.800 So when you talk about coach Tucker saying he doesn't want any unconditional love, 74 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:46.759 because you know, this is the this is what comes with being a head 75 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:50.439 coach at a Power five or any coach in that standpoint that this is what 76 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:54.839 this is what it takes to get to that next spot. And you know 77 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:57.439 we're playing against the buck guys, Man, that's our program. We want 78 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:00.759 to get to that level, and they showed it what it takes to get 79 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:03.399 to that level. And we're not there yet. We're not there yet. 80 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.959 And as you said, you talked a little bit about the quarterback play. 81 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:14.480 Right now, CJ. Strouss sitting at twelve touchdowns against the Spartans in two 82 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:19.279 seasons with only eight in completion. Just an incredible stat line that I read 83 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:21.879 there. But right now we're going to go to the This is spart of 84 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:28.360 game day stats presented to you by I Hop. The two by two by 85 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:33.480 two breakfast combo equals one delicious meal. 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But it was awful lot of 95 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.600 red in the stands, wasn't it. Yeah, definitely, there was an 96 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.480 awful lot of red in the stands. You know, Ohio State travels well 97 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.759 this, you know, boats well on them for you know, future Bowl 98 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.920 game selection, you know, placement and everything like that. Uh, the 99 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.519 committees look at things like that. But you know, Michigan State, you 100 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:39.559 know, the fans say, you know, give us something to care about, 101 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.080 but they have to be there as well. And I get it, 102 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.000 I get it. It's not the season that we all wanted. But that 103 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.000 doesn't mean we just thrown a towel and and you know, take our ball 104 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:52.320 and go home just because you pay for a season ticket. Yeah, yeah, 105 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.679 you can do that. But I mean, I don't understand it. 106 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.759 I don't understand why why you invest so much into a program, but when 107 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.799 it's time you support them. You pick and choose when you want to support 108 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:03.279 a team and when you don't want to support a team. It makes no 109 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:07.320 sense to me. You have to be you know, spartan dog through and 110 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.240 through through the goods and the bad. I said that last week, and 111 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.600 I'm going to continue to say that, and if anyone have an issue with 112 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:20.399 the fact that I say that, then let's let's debate it. So I'm 113 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.279 going to ask you, otis the comments that we heard today from head coach 114 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:30.159 Mel Tucker when he says he doesn't expect people to give him unconditional support. 115 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.840 What do you think of those statements? That statement right there from him. 116 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:41.159 I think it's from him. It's standpoint of we got to control we can 117 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:43.960 control, and none of us, I mean, we could talk all till 118 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.279 we're blue in the face here, but like none of us are in that 119 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:52.159 locker room right now, right so anybody that's watching us or even going to 120 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:54.200 the games, no one's in the locker room and seeing what's truly transpiring, 121 00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:00.000 what's happening, you know, to Jay's point, Like I recall, Man, 122 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.360 and we were we were highly touted and Ohio State came in and it 123 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:07.639 was a sea of red. Same thing, man, And you know we 124 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.320 were I mean we were I think we have one loss and Ohio State was 125 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:16.159 undefeated, kind of similar you know to this, and they were there was 126 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.559 more seal of red when we were playing in my opinion, and so you 127 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.720 know, credit to obviously the people that came out. It was a beautiful 128 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:28.159 fall day. But to Coach Tucker's point that that was the additional love is 129 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.559 there's no woe as me. Like you think Coach Tucker's gotten this far with 130 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:37.080 worrying about the critics, you know, like I mean, it is what 131 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:41.240 it is. He knows what it comes with this this territory. And then 132 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.759 you know, we talked about this straight there was a bullseye on us because 133 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:50.759 what we've done last year leading up to this season is that we were fully 134 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:56.240 doing We were heavily recruiting, and we were like leading obviously the brand and 135 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:01.200 socially like we're in highly engagement in a football break right now. Right so 136 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.480 eyes and ears are all on us. And so now that you know the 137 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.960 season's crumbled a little bit from a standpoint of who can't find a way to 138 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:13.799 win the game, it's good that he says that because it's it's all on 139 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.960 them, and then he owns it. He's sown accountability. But like I 140 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.279 said, no one's in that locker right now seeing what's happening. And I 141 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:24.000 think right now, boys down to are they gonna fold or they're gonna join 142 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.320 for you know, join stronger ties together and get this thing going because we 143 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.639 want to we want to see them win. Man. Obviously we're former s 144 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.080 parton Dolls. We want to see our dogs, love the Dolls win. 145 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:39.639 But right now it's tough, you know, honestly, Yeah, I mean, 146 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.320 that's that's really what I'm thinking. When you hear those words from from 147 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:48.639 coach Tucker. What is he supposed to say. He's a leader of men, 148 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.200 and he wants to grow these young men into what they need to become. 149 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.559 And that's like, you got to be battle tested. You can't worry 150 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:00.600 about what's going on on the outside. You gotta just work the next play 151 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.840 and focus on you and what your assignment is and being there for your teammates. 152 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:07.480 That's really what his function is. But as a former player, and 153 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.120 all three of us are, when you see that, we know what it 154 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:16.720 means as a player. When you're currently on the field, you're never going 155 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.360 to admit, man, I wish that the people would stay No, they're 156 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.759 never They're never gonna admit that. They're never going to talk about that, 157 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.440 but it is in the back of your mind you guys are still talking about 158 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.480 the Ohio State game, and he came out and to see a rid You 159 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.679 know, when there's boos, you know, as a quarterback, you feel 160 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:37.759 those things and you should have. Look, there's not a quarterback that's playing 161 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.240 that hasn't been booted, you know. But Brady has been booed. Tom 162 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:45.519 Brady has been I heard get booed when he was in any Russell Wilson getting 163 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:48.440 left and right. Absolutely. The thing is this, though. The thing 164 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:54.120 is this, I rather get booed by seventy five Spartan fans than at home 165 00:12:54.559 --> 00:13:00.360 than sixty percent Ohio's visiting team fans. That's what I'm saying. Rather be 166 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.240 in my home getting booed by my own crowd because they're that vested and that 167 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.679 passionate about the product that we're putting on there, as opposed to the visiting 168 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:11.879 team invading them, coming to their house, kicking them out of their seats, 169 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:18.039 you know. So I rather have that. Yeah, that's a good 170 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.240 point. I like that. I mean, listen, we can bake this 171 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:22.799 all day long. And you know this is a rough patch. Obviously, 172 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:26.600 the Mischigan State is going through and the fan base is going through. Everybody's 173 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.840 going through it, and obviously people some people handle things differently. But we'll 174 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.440 continue to fight on and as we have homecoming coming up. But like when 175 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.879 we look at the offense and you talked about Peyton Thorn's stats a minute ago, 176 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:48.399 otis you look here where he opens up with a nice pass over the 177 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:50.759 shoulder throw to Jade and Reid. I mean, the touch was there, 178 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:56.759 the timing was just right. And then on the very next play here you 179 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:03.159 see Peyton and it's just the way too much on the ball, not enough 180 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:11.000 air, overthrows the receiver and it turns into a turnover. Why the inconsistency? 181 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:15.039 What is it that when you hear mil Tucker talking about we're not stacking 182 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.440 enough good plays on top of each other right now, what do you think 183 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:22.600 that's coming from? Ju? The big thing is, you know the first 184 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:28.440 play that we showed here with Thorn connecting and Reid's good, it brings optimism 185 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:33.120 because you think Read's getting back to one hundred percent and you can hope that 186 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.559 connection and that you know, communication between the two of them will start to 187 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.240 show. But then you know, you go back and then the next play 188 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:46.320 is something that's not good The reason I feel this is happening is because we 189 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:52.600 as an offense do not have an identity of who we are. Last year, 190 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:54.200 we knew who the hell we were. We wanted to run the football 191 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.039 and that's going to open up the pass game. This year, we don't 192 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.120 know what we want to do. We're not committed to the run, and 193 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:07.080 what we're donu is we're putting ourselves in bad positions to force us to throw 194 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.279 the ball. We're putting ourselves behind the chain. It's tougher for an offensive 195 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:13.879 coordinator to call third and eight, third and ten as it is to call 196 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:18.799 third and four, third and two. So we have to learn to establish 197 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.000 who we are as an offense. You know, are we a team that's 198 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.159 gonna try to go downhill and run the football and show some commitment to the 199 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:30.279 run game, or are we a team that's just gonna say to hell with 200 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.039 the run game. We're gonna throw the ball around the yard, but we're 201 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.480 gonna do different things to get the ball in our playmakers' hands. Be it 202 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:41.879 the screen passes, tunnel screens, jet sweeps, little pop passes to the 203 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.919 tight end. Do whatever you can to get the ball out of Thorn's hands 204 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.039 quickly, quickly, so the playmakers can go out there and boogie and get 205 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.360 and get plays. That's gonna get your offensive line going, that's gonna get 206 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:58.039 the crowd into the game, and that's gonna build Thorn's confidence level because I 207 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.720 always say, if you do a tunnel screen to to read, that's a 208 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:04.120 negative pass. But he's running at sixty yards for a touchdown. At the 209 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.200 end of the day, going through a sixty yard touchdown pass, you feel 210 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:11.399 good about that. So we have to form an identity before we can move 211 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.559 forward. So, Jay, I'm gonna ask you this question. You brought 212 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.960 up behind the chain and staying on schedule and playing you know, on in 213 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.519 front of the sticks and keeping you know, you know that. What do 214 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:26.360 you mean by that? Explaining that a little bit in depth when you talk 215 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:30.240 about playing on schedule and playing by the chains. Yeah, So for an 216 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:33.279 offensive coordinator, you have your play sheet. It's broken down to several different 217 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.279 different categories. In there, you have your first and tens. So you're 218 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.080 thinking, that's an offensive coordinator. All right, I'm running this play on 219 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:45.240 first and ten. I want to the goal is to gain five yards so 220 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.440 I can call second and five. But in the back of your head now 221 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:52.039 you're also thinking, okay, what if there's a sack and it's a loss 222 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.519 of twelve. Now I'm looking at second and eighteen. That's putting you behind 223 00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:59.960 the chain. So now you have to, you know, come up with 224 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:03.319 a you know, a crazy play to help gain some ground. And what 225 00:17:03.319 --> 00:17:07.920 that does defensively is it makes you one dimensional. The defense knows what you're 226 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.079 gonna do. If it's third and eight, third and ten, you know 227 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.000 you're gonna either you're gonna throw the football, so the defense can sit back 228 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.000 and wait and play the sticks. Play in front of the sticks, as 229 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:21.440 Otis, you know this very well. You say, don't let them get 230 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.680 past you. If they get the ball and they catch five yards in front 231 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.480 of you, make you swarm, make the tackle, four down, punt 232 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.200 teams on the on the field and we're off. That's a win for the 233 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.279 defense. So you have to, you know, make plays to keep to 234 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.839 keep you on schedule. So Otis, I'm gonna ask you, as a 235 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:41.680 defensive player, if a team is playing behind the sticks and you're getting them 236 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:48.799 into second and long and third and very long situations, what is that mindset 237 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:53.440 from a defensive player versus third and one, second and two. What's the 238 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:59.160 difference there for you? I mean when you talk about difference, I mean 239 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:03.079 you can you can say you relaxed, right, but you also have you 240 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.039 know that it's going to be a pass or it's gonna be some kind of 241 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.559 half back screen or quick drawl. Is just get some positive yards. But 242 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.480 when you're in that third and long pass, know, third to fifteen, 243 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:19.319 third and tens, those are those opportunities to be like, all right, 244 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:25.839 let's rally the troops, let's get off the field. Like anything like the 245 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:30.519 seven yard digs or whatever it's slanted that we can live with those, but 246 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:33.440 like it's those those comebacks where they're right at the sticks that just irk you, 247 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.640 man, Like those are like you just did two downs where you stop 248 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.200 them for negative yards it's right there, and then you just give up this 249 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:47.480 one where it's like we're this close. Like it's those like frustrating plays where 250 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:51.680 think about amount of turner or amount of possessions. If we got three and 251 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:53.799 out, so we can get the ball back to Peyton, back to the 252 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:57.720 offense to get in a groove, but like they have no chance to get 253 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:02.839 in the groove because defense wise, we're not getting off the field, and 254 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:07.359 then we're getting tired and it's just gas gas gas and plays and touchdowns and 255 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.480 touchdowns, and it's just like, man, you're looking at it. I 256 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:12.480 mean, that's when you start looking at each other like what is going on 257 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:18.640 here? Like what's going on? Like that's exactly what is like going home? 258 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:25.039 Just I'm frustrated looking at it from a mindset of that is a hook 259 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:30.000 curl like where's the hook curl coverage? Where's the where's the rerouts? Right? 260 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:34.160 Where's the rerouts? Where guys are running free off the line? That 261 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:38.319 doesn't help us. Safety doesn't help anyone out where you can only truly cover 262 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:44.000 somebody three seconds, three to four seconds, like and beyond that, I 263 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:48.319 mean you got to be locked and loaded because quarterbacks are sitting there with no 264 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:51.680 pressure. It's just picking us apart. And like I said, it looks 265 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.599 bad on all of us. Where As a secondary like you just get pissed 266 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:57.319 off, Whereas we need to be off the field and that could have been 267 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:02.319 an easy pass breakup, but we're not in the position to do a pass 268 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:06.960 breakup, or we're just giving too much space where we're bailing off versus that's 269 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:08.039 just to hit him in the mouth, slow them down to the front of 270 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:11.119 the line, and then let's see what happens. I'd rather play that way 271 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.920 then have these bells and you know we're pressing, but then we're bailing but 272 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:19.680 we're not getting no pressure, no bumper runs. I'd rather play press, 273 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:25.559 coverage, cover two, man aggressive, and we live and die by it 274 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:29.759 versus these zones. Man, these zones are just letting these receivers run scott 275 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:33.359 free. Somebody's open because you can't cover too long. Let me give you 276 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:37.519 up. Let me give you a scenario here, all right for the listeners. 277 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:41.160 I know you guys know this, but for the viewers and the listeners 278 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.079 listening to this, all right, So let's think about this. Right. 279 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.680 You're an offensive coordinator, all right, you have a bruising back. Let's 280 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:52.319 just say you have Elijah Collins, who's who's our most productive back when he's 281 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:55.720 in there. All right, So when you when he's in there early in 282 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:59.079 the game, you know he's gonna get those tough yards. If we're staying 283 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:03.799 on schedule, and you have a second and one and Elijah Collins come in 284 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:10.279 now as a linebacker. Your thought probably you're creeping. You're creeping because you 285 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:12.079 you think it's a run up to middle. You want to make that stop. 286 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:15.559 But this is why it's so important to have an identity to be able 287 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:19.599 to run the football, because offensively, you can open up your playbook. 288 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:23.599 Now you've got Jayden Reid out there, you can take a shot because you 289 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:26.640 know on third and one you're gonna run the ball and get it if you 290 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.119 don't get that shot, So that's why we have to run the ball. 291 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:36.279 That's why it's important to establish that run game, to get the linebackers on 292 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:40.640 their toes buzzing forward thinking run run, run, oh no, you know 293 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:45.440 that kind of thing. That's when you'll be a very lethal offense if you 294 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.880 can do that. You know, bringing up what you just said, talked 295 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:53.279 about Elijah Collins last week, we heard a lot about Elijah's going to get 296 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:57.480 more carries. He's been doing all the right things in practice. You did 297 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:00.880 hear that? You know, there was a tweet, a cryptic tweet that 298 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:07.319 came out from Elijah that said he was geeked and blessed he was on the 299 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:14.519 video where they do the uniform reveal. Yet two carries for nine yards with 300 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:18.759 a four and a half yard average per carry, but wasn't really in there 301 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:23.599 for a lion's share of the carries. Mischiun State outrushed two hundred and thirty 302 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:30.359 seven to seven yards on the ground. Yeah, that's that's a bad day 303 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.640 at the office. It's yeah, you put your head, Yeah, it's 304 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.039 a bad day. You can't. Like I said, I don't care what 305 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:38.160 level you're at. If you run the ball for only seven yards in an 306 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:42.400 entire game, you're not gonna win. One hundred out of one hundred times, 307 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:48.319 you are gonna lose that game. If you run the ball less than 308 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:52.960 twenty times in a big ten game, majority of the times you're not gonna 309 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.559 win. Because the same is run to win, run to win, all 310 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.160 right, Stroud through the ball twenty six times. They ran more than that. 311 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:03.960 You know, you have to be able to run the football. You 312 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:10.200 have to. Your offensive line wants that. I don't know why Elijah Collins 313 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:14.599 is not getting the bulk of the carries. I don't know. I don't 314 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.640 know. I want to know. It's bugging the hell out of me. 315 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:22.200 The kid needs to tote the rock. He needs the ball more. But 316 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.720 he's not getting it. That's gonna assert some dominance. I don't care if 317 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:32.400 we go out there and run the ball four times and you know, come 318 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:36.759 up short, but we have to establish ourselves. The last time I felt 319 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.200 Michigan State had a commitment to the run game was the first half of the 320 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:45.680 Akron game. Yeah, and notice for you, I mean you see what 321 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:51.759 Jayu compounded off of what he said, twenty rushing attemps at Michigan State, 322 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:56.680 forty six Russian attempts for Ohio State. Ohio said only through the ball twenty 323 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:00.680 eight times total, twenty six of those coming from C. J. Stroud. 324 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.400 What the commitment to run as a defensive player, it is. What 325 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.119 do you see when you when you see a coach a team that is now 326 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.640 struggling to run the ball, obviously and then completely bailing from the run, 327 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:19.559 only giving off a twenty run attempts for the whole a whole ball game. 328 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:27.440 I mean, when you play a well balanced offense. In my mind, 329 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:32.359 as you're preparing, you got to prepare for it all man. Like I 330 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:40.079 think when coach d came in me personally, he allowed us to truly understand 331 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:45.240 the offensive positions like it starts with the guard to tackle play, I mean 332 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.759 straight, you know it, Like you can tell a lot from what's happening 333 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.960 from that guard to tackle play with his pass and run. And so for 334 00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:59.000 me, I would study that more than anything because it allowed me to play 335 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:03.000 faster. So I got my eyes on that quarterback and my eyes on the 336 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:07.160 front line. I'm looking at those tendencies of all right, this guy may 337 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.519 have a twitch where it's so much, it's so minute, like so so 338 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.480 detailed. That coach d was like, it's all in the details. It's 339 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:18.680 all in the inches of game of inches. But if that tackle sets that 340 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.359 foot quick gets to the kicks like it, oh pass, I'm gonna look 341 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:26.480 at my number two receiver or check one'm I have my keys in my eyes. 342 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.960 Got to be disciplined with the eyes. And I think from a standpoint 343 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.599 when you have to guess run pass and it's such an equal fifty to fifty 344 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:40.400 that you got to go further into the book of studying study to sow that 345 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:42.799 self approved. And my first two years I had none of that. My 346 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:48.039 last two years I truly had to be a student of the game in order 347 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.160 to pass the test on Saturday and so I think we got to be students 348 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.440 of the game. We got to learn want to learn our playbook. Two, 349 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.599 you got to learn the opponent's playbook more than your own so that we 350 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:04.799 can go out there and play fast and play strong, spartan defensive football because 351 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.680 you know who you got and C. J. Stroud coming in. You 352 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:14.799 know, this guy has been historically torturing us with his arm. He barely 353 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:19.160 runs, so like we understand, like his run his last line of defense 354 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:23.079 or whatever offense is to run. He barely taps into that. So from 355 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:27.440 my mind is let's focus on the other things that we can control is lock 356 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:30.880 on your man being where you need to be at, trust the other guys 357 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.039 to be at where they be at, and we let the chicks fall with 358 00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:40.599 him at. Yeah. So to that straight you said twenty were giving, 359 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:45.400 we're being too generous. Here we have thirteen called run plays. I don't 360 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:49.160 count the scrambles and different things like that. Thirteen called run plays. Two 361 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:56.799 running backs in an entire Big ten football game. That's not good. Thirteen 362 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:02.720 called run plays. And you know I know that they there's a I guess 363 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:06.839 an agenda out there that says Michigan State gets behind early so that they had 364 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:11.039 to hurry up and throw the ball and kind of scrap the game plan in 365 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.519 order to keep up. But this ball game wasn't out of hand that quickly. 366 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:17.640 You know, when you looked at what we just talked about, it 367 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:21.799 was fourteen to seven. Michigan State's still in there, and then there was 368 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:26.640 twenty one to fourteen or to thirteen. They're still in the ball game. 369 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:33.039 No need to completely abandon all, you know, the playbook and start doing 370 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.039 to start air rating the ball out there like your Western Kentucky from a year 371 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.880 ago with Zappy who's falling out in New England right now. So look at 372 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.240 that game, Look at that game in Michigan last week last year we were 373 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:51.400 down. Did we go away from K nine? Absolutely not. We kept 374 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:56.599 pounding, power, grim pound and mix it up because we didn't get we 375 00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:00.680 didn't get in that desperation field right we got. We talked about control it, 376 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.440 control the pace of the temple of the offense. The longer you're out 377 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.400 there, and Jay brought the longer the offense out there, the longer I'm 378 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.759 getting gatorade and I'm getting I'm getting I'm getting the gatorade field up right, 379 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:15.319 So then when I go out there, or at least we get a field 380 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.720 goal, or at least we get down there to their territory, we score 381 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.920 or field goal. My my, my objectives to go out there and get 382 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.119 that three out. But I feel like there's none of that where we got 383 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.839 in the desperation mode where we still like we were in the game. We 384 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.519 were in the game, and I mean I think everyone was shot that we 385 00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:37.160 were in the game because last year we was like that first half was atrocious, 386 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:42.559 so like we were competing with a pick six and a offenser touchdown by 387 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:48.440 Red. But then what happened. We started pressing, We started pressing. 388 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.720 It reminded me to some of the John eladays where we will go into big 389 00:28:52.759 --> 00:29:00.000 games undefeated and just because we're playing a big time team, we're gonna change 390 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.880 the entire offense that week, you know, just to play to stay the 391 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.880 course. Coach D'Antonio said it the best stay the course. We are who 392 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.799 we are. Do what got you to the dance, That's what we have 393 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.119 to continue to do. But sometimes we get for we forget about that and 394 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.319 we're like, oh that shiny thing and get impatient. We got to stay 395 00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.480 the course otis hit it on the head. Michigan game. Last year, 396 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:27.559 we stayed the course down fourteen, down sixteen. You stayed the course. 397 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.079 You have to do that, Yeah, miss said absolutely did last year. 398 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.640 You know you look at that ball game. The commitment to the run was 399 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:40.480 there. You know, you have a star player, but as a offensive 400 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.119 lineman, we know, like, look, the more opportunities, more called 401 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.759 runs you get. You know, Coach Tucker talked about it that there are 402 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:52.200 a lot of check with mes RPOs that are being called in today's game. 403 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:59.680 So what happens is, you know there's options where maybe the running backs are 404 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:03.839 the the quarterback isn't on the same page. They're looking at what the look 405 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.680 is. They're trying to run to the bubbles. They don't see that bubble 406 00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.720 there. Then they they're trying to throw the ball more than they should and 407 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:15.039 they're giving that power to peyton thrown. Maybe that's the issue. You know, 408 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.240 that's something that Mel Tucker talked about. Maybe we need to do more 409 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.799 design run plays right to Yeah, just because you know, if you live 410 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.640 that chop life, you know that's what we're talking about. The more you 411 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.640 hit guys, you know, it may be a two yard game in the 412 00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.359 first quarter by the ed to it by the third and fourth quarter. Those 413 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:38.759 are ten plus yard games. It's just the name for physics. So to 414 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.160 see that more commitment to the run would be something delightful for all of us, 415 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:47.440 obviously, and you would love to see for Elijah Collins to get more 416 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:52.160 carries as Michigan State tries to get into the left column and get into that 417 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.359 win column this week as they go and face the Badgers. Now going to 418 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.640 the defensive side of the ball, we talked about the bright side where you 419 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.079 saw the pick from Charles Brenton. Let's show that pick right here early in 420 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:10.319 the ball game, number zero. He's ready, And it seemed like there 421 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:15.640 was some kind of a miscommunication between c. J. Strout and in Bimba, 422 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:19.599 the guy the receiver number two. Here, he feels like he's going 423 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:22.319 and c. J. Strout said, no, I'm throwing it to the 424 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:27.960 flat. We'll take them, take it, We'll take them. It looked 425 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.519 like it looked like the receiver was supposed to Stroud thought the receiver was going 426 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:38.119 to run a comeback or something along the outside there. That's why Brandley was 427 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.720 just sitting out there in the flat there for that, and the receiver must 428 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.839 have seen it. I don't know if there was something in film. If 429 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.720 he's sitting, I'm gonna bend it and go inside. But there was just 430 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:56.359 a miscommunication there. And as the kids would say, Oski, somebody's watching 431 00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:05.119 out these. Yeah, we talked about eye control. This was a perfect 432 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:10.200 example of eye control. Like he could have easily kept going with our receiver. 433 00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:14.359 But clearly you look at we were like you said, zone it out 434 00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:17.839 right. So he did his job where he squeezed him inside, didn't get 435 00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:22.720 outside that sideline. You silent. His friend saw j Stroud released that thing. 436 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:27.400 And you know that's what we need to get right. We need to 437 00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.119 take those pick sixes and convert on and score on defense. One thing that 438 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.119 about this pick six it was great. It was great. Don't let me 439 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.240 beat this wet blanket. But one thing that I did I did not see 440 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:43.119 and I have not seen this year. I haven't seen that one person or 441 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:49.240 a group of people on the sideline for spartans like getting them going, like 442 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:58.519 like back in our day, the offense would be meeting otis on the field. 443 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.079 We're going like this, hey hey hey jump, you know, doing 444 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.920 all that. I don't see it. I don't see guys getting on the 445 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.759 bench getting the crowd into it. I don't know if it's the if it's 446 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.960 that, if they're told not to do that, but I don't see that 447 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:17.480 after a pick six like that, that stadium should be rocking. I mean 448 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:22.200 it was rocking. It was rocking. Yeah, like our sideline should be 449 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:24.640 rocking. You know, I didn't see that, and I didn't see that 450 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:29.759 throughout the game. I don't see that one person like getting getting in the 451 00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:34.079 getting in players faces and getting them going. Do you think that the neutral 452 00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.680 thinking, you know, to that point right there, Jayu and otis when 453 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.079 they when mil Tucker talks a lot about neutral thinking, don't get too high, 454 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.000 don't get too low, just get to the next play. Do you 455 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:50.680 think that affects the excitement when things do go well? Yeah, definitely football. 456 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:52.359 You're playing a game. You're playing a game. It's a game of 457 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:58.000 emotion. You play off emotion, you play you see otis when you guys 458 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.400 played Georgia in a bowl game, right and you guys on the side like 459 00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.359 dancing, rock and music playing. That's the psyche side of it, now, 460 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:08.920 that's the mental aspect of it. They're on the other sideline like, 461 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.920 oh man, these boys they're not gonna quit. They're ready. That's that 462 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.440 part of it. You need that, like you need that roller coaster that 463 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.760 ups downs. That's what it is. And the reason when it's down, 464 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.599 that's why you have teammates to pick your chin up and say let's go. 465 00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.440 That's why it's there. You need that. And you think about this too, 466 00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:37.559 that last year's squad, like was that COVID squad right? Like classes 467 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.360 you had to go do go in person, right, and you still was 468 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.400 doing some virtual stuff like you had a lot more time to fully fokos on 469 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.239 football the two seasons, you know what I mean. So I'm not making 470 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:53.679 any excuse. But also, like we already know, the requirements of what 471 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.039 you gotta do day to day can truly weigh in toll you, like they 472 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:04.119 can push you down where you're not fully freely thinking. But to man, 473 00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.800 look, we talked about Charles and we talked about Chuck. That man has 474 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:13.079 a herder alignement, like right like the dogs about Charles Brantley for a minute, 475 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.559 he's my favorite credit out there. We got to talk about Chuck because 476 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:23.320 I think from Venice Florida Venice High School. A lot of great athletes down 477 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:29.960 there. He's related to Herb hay Good, another Spartan legend in the past. 478 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.480 That that's coaching the head coach at mac donald Heights University right now. 479 00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:40.079 And he the smallest guy on the team as far as way is playing the 480 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:46.320 biggest right now. He reminds me of He reminds me of DeMar Williams. 481 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:54.199 Right the Jamar them had that DeMar will talk the best trash with the best 482 00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:59.840 of them, and we'll back it up right powerful pound he was the smallest 483 00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:06.360 guy, great returner right legitimately has that body make of the Mount Williams. 484 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.719 But he bringing that thump too, man like he he ain't. He's not 485 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.880 backing down because he is one seventy five with you know what I mean, 486 00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.519 Like he's trying to put water you being generous, one seventy five. I 487 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.239 know, Hey, I'm trying to put them stats up. I'm speaking to 488 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.440 existence. Look at the fight, Like, let's get this clip up here 489 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:37.119 of him hitting tray Yon Henderson. He was I mean, he took him 490 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.000 out. It was a clean hit man for about two hundred and thirty pounds 491 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.400 and that's the thing. You got a guy like Brantley coming up and sticking 492 00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:51.960 big backs, being a form of being a big back all right in the 493 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:53.719 film room when that film comes up, Hey, coach, I gotta go 494 00:36:53.719 --> 00:37:00.960 to the bathroom. Now you gotta sit your back there out there and chopping 495 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:04.199 him. He's going. You know that thigh board, I know it hurt. 496 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.840 I mean it hurt. He ain't hit just that thigh board. He 497 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.880 hit less because he got that boy on that it was good. I mean, 498 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:15.400 first of all, if if if Jay you saw Bryant, he definitely 499 00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:21.760 gonna be like, right, he's about man. I guarantee he didn't know 500 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:27.280 that Charles Chuck was coming with that thump. Yeah, that's the thing. 501 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.440 If you now you're watching film and you see this guy coming sticking stick and 502 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:35.440 sticking that's a big back. Now you're second guessing. You're like, oh, 503 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.840 man, I don't want to be that guy on film. So now 504 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:42.800 you're now you turn into a dancing bear kind of trying to be a big 505 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.760 bat, trying to make a move. And then what happens is supporter starts 506 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:50.519 coming in all right, and and so you now you're in your head if 507 00:37:50.559 --> 00:38:01.159 you see that. So that's the thing is bear that building bear, that's 508 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:06.880 you to that point as a big back. That's the easiest way to tackle 509 00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.159 a big back when he's running sideline, the sideline and dancing around, right, 510 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:13.320 there's no momentum. Yeah, especially you you corral that guy. You 511 00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:16.199 know, the pursuits coming inside out. So you know, you do your 512 00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:20.079 think and you're big back. Your mindset is you don't want to be another 513 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.800 victim to Brantley because he's he has a few now and that we talked about 514 00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:29.280 that Maryland thump. He right, oh yeah, you know, I know 515 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:30.599 last year when he got hurt, I mean he was bringing the thunder. 516 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.199 I think was that Purdue last year. I mean, this guy plays with 517 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.599 a lot of hard and soul. Like you just want to see some of 518 00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:42.079 that energy, that fire coming out as the other players right now. I 519 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.599 know we have talent on this team, but the team just not playing with 520 00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:47.639 a lot of emotion. I know, otis you You've got some plays here 521 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.039 where you see CJ. Stroud and he's out, he's surveying the field and 522 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:58.320 throwing touchdown at the touchdown six of them to be exact against the Spartan defense, 523 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.239 but I know you wanted to break down a few Yeah. I mean, 524 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:06.159 let's talk about the first that first touchdown past twenty yards are going in 525 00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.079 that north end zone. You know you clearly see we're almost in a cover 526 00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:14.360 two man, right, and you know from a standpoint as a safety, 527 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.000 you know you got some disguise and you're trying to say, hey, we 528 00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:22.199 indep thirds, but we have cover two man. No one truly puts a 529 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:27.119 hand on the receiver to give him at least a slow and slow and the 530 00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.119 reroute. We talked about reroute. So if you look at this play, 531 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.800 I'm looking at odds where just he looks right, but he looks left quickly, 532 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:43.920 and our safety covers up that slot receiver versus scraping over to helping Chuck 533 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:47.000 out. Chuck's in perfect position. I mean just a few more interest where 534 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:51.039 he looked. If he could look back further, that could be a PBu 535 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.800 or pit. But if the safety is reading it perfectly, that is eyes 536 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.639 in the sky. You coming down like an eagle down, that's jumping up 537 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.480 int grabbing that ball out the sky. Right, But you clearly like just 538 00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:07.280 locked on the number two where that's not a bracket, and I don't think 539 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.760 it's a bracket coverage on numbers the number two receiver, So why are you 540 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.039 holding on that where clearly the ball's released looking at the far end, that's 541 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.639 the perfect look. I lick my chops when I see a quarterback trip. 542 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.159 Just load it, get a little bit of air I can go. Try 543 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.440 to get it at least make effort to get it right. And then the 544 00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.360 worst part is when they celebrate like you know, everybody's talking about on his 545 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.880 head like that. That gets me upset. Where I put me and coach, 546 00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.639 let's just slop it. I'll put the pads on. I'll put the 547 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.199 pads on. But you look at that play and you just get frustrated because 548 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.480 he's in great position. Bradley is a great position. Then you look at 549 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:52.639 the next play we talked about. Slot receiver peaks to the left, slot 550 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.440 slot corner peaks to the left. What are we peaking at? Like we 551 00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.320 know to play? Like are we do we not communicate pre snap? We 552 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:05.400 should know the play communication key. You run straight to the flat without even 553 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.639 touching the slot receiver, just like turn him loose, Just turn him loose, 554 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.519 like here you go like that? You got to put a hand on 555 00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.519 at least an off hand jam, get to the get to the flat versus, 556 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.840 or you can ride him out to the slot, to the hash to 557 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.639 help the receiver, or to the safety to recognize that this guy's running the 558 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:28.039 street, not just let the man run straight down the street and then it's 559 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.599 an automatic touchdowns scheme. I want to ask this question to you. You're 560 00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:35.360 right here and looking at it right there, just so people can see this 561 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:39.800 is that scheme or is that a player mental error? That's a player mental 562 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:44.400 error. And I can't put it on one guy because clearly he looked to 563 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:49.320 the corner and when depending on how this this this defense ran, the safety 564 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.719 truly calls the call like he tells the call like if it's no man on 565 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.559 the island, but it wasn't. We got slot receiver, so we got 566 00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:00.920 to say that nickelback needs to know. You got to get a rerout. 567 00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:05.320 I think about like that was my main concern. I got to get a 568 00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.239 rerout so I can help control the speed recognition for the safety that's in the 569 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.840 backyard, because if you're going straight full speed, that safety's in like a 570 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:16.719 whole heap of trouble. It's like if I don't get over here quick enough. 571 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.320 I can't even disguise. I got to get here quick enough that ball's 572 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:23.239 already gone. I got a question for you, Otis. Yeah, you 573 00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:29.920 know, playing in the secondary like you did and watching our secondary now we 574 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.119 see a lot of bail coverage and given a lot of that space, do 575 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:42.039 you think it's confidence, I say, a lack of confidence. That's a 576 00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.880 tough question, man, That's the one. Like we asked Drew its like 577 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:51.440 like about the quarterback situation. I honestly don't know, Jayu. I think 578 00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:57.679 that we've getten we've've gotten beat so much in the secondary, that's just second 579 00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:02.239 guess and that now we're trying to scheme because of the lack of what with 580 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:07.159 the holes that we have to feel like, honestly, we talked about DNA 581 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:12.960 on offense, what's the DNA on the defense? Historically we've always been hit 582 00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.320 you in the mouth press. We've always been corners that can just press and 583 00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:22.280 run pound for pound historically. So now you're seeing them drop off because you 584 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:29.119 got to compensate on the loss of Xavier Himnis and who x was Darius Snow 585 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.800 think about those turnovers that the bulk of those tournaments last year was those two 586 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:37.320 guys could bind, right, So you losing that leadership, losing that communication 587 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:42.679 factor where maybe we rely too much on those two guys to communicate and you're 588 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.800 seeing this loophole. We got young guys in the safety spot. Safety's got 589 00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:51.840 to communicate just like the middle linebacker does to the entire secondary of Hey we're 590 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.840 here, hook curl. Like if I got to remind you about the hook 591 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.880 curl, I got to remind you about the reroute. That means you're not 592 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.320 communicating because that's automatic thing. Where hey, reroute, reroute, that's just 593 00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.320 automatic. That's be an automatic thing. And if I got a second, 594 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:10.280 guess, he looks at boss, now go ahead. So on that play 595 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.760 that you showed, it was third and four and you talked about the slot 596 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:17.320 corner, did not reroute as a safety? Are you yelling reroute? Reroute? 597 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.519 Absolutely? Okay, I mean I mean before even before, like, 598 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:24.719 hey, make sure you reroute because I mean, if you watch the film, 599 00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:30.400 if you've studied, you shouldn't know that these are the tendencies between that 600 00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.440 third and four, right, And in my opinion, you get caught too 601 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:37.280 far in disguise where you can't run that far to get over there in time, 602 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.800 versus I'm disguising it. I'm in cover three. I need to get 603 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:45.360 over here. Just all bad man, all bad all bad news bears. 604 00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:52.239 I mean we also, Jason, we didn't talk about like it also starts 605 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:55.760 in the trenches. We haven't even fully focused on the trenches of like the 606 00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:01.320 defensive alignment getting into that pressure. Did we even get into his face last 607 00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:08.360 Saturday? So there was one play, So so I did see a big 608 00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:12.480 fellow, Derek Harmon, and he got in there and got a hold of 609 00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.280 CJ. Put the big men on there was able to get him down. 610 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.440 We'll pull up that highlight for Derek. That was a nice play. But 611 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:24.159 for the most part, you didn't see that. You did see plays early 612 00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:29.880 on where you saw pressure and it got the CJ. You know, CJ 613 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.800 was a little confused early on that after the pick six, but leading up 614 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.559 to the pick six and right after the pick six, he was kind of 615 00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:38.960 trying to figure out the coverage. There was some disguising going on. I 616 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.760 saw single high I saw the cover twos. We love to run a lot 617 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:49.519 of that bail coverage. But when there was some all out blitzing and CJ 618 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.679 was able to hit completions. I mean we went completely away from it, 619 00:45:52.719 --> 00:46:00.000 and there was just no one on one pass rushing ability to get off blocks 620 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:05.840 and get to the quarterback in verse. On the offensive side of the ball, 621 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:13.760 I saw a lot of regular four man three man stunts, just basic 622 00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:21.119 tackle in twist where three out of the four guys are getting home to Peyton. 623 00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.880 And so there were four sacks. Peyton was sacked four times. C 624 00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:30.159 J. Straddle was sacked one time, but out of those four sacks, 625 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:36.880 three of them. I mean there was multiple Buckeyes converging on to Peyton Thorn, 626 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.559 and one of them he was I think he was a little skittish man. 627 00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.719 He slipped out to the right and show that highlight right here. He 628 00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:49.920 goes to the right and goes right into pressure. That was something that I'm 629 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.239 sure he'll look at on film and say, hey, that was on me. 630 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:58.719 Guys. But still guys like as an offensive lineman to pass off stunts, 631 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.559 you talk about re routing from the defensive back perspective, it's the same 632 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:07.599 thing. You gotta get a jam, you gotta get your hands on the 633 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:13.639 penetrating whoever that that defensive linement is that's angling. The first there's one guy 634 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.719 that's penetrating, and then there's a loop around. And for whatever I mean, 635 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:22.280 we are not I mean, I can't imagine coach Cap isn't coaching. 636 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:28.239 That's that's like the only thing that you really work on in practice is passing 637 00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:31.800 off games. So to me, when they're going out there on Saturdays under 638 00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:36.320 the bright lights, there's with that that rat trapping thing that's going on. 639 00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.679 Guys aren't figuring it out. They're not standing and doing what they're coach to 640 00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:45.039 do. Because you can't tell me that you're not being coached on how to 641 00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:50.280 pass off a twist stunt. While you're at Michigan State, a power five 642 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.320 school in the Big Ten, playing against Ohio State. There wasn't any exotic 643 00:47:53.320 --> 00:48:01.280 blitzes coming that was confusing. This was four man regular Milton meat and potatoes 644 00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:07.000 as mil Tucker likes to talk about rushes. And we couldn't block three out 645 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.559 of four of the guys. That's unacceptable on so many levels. We couldn't 646 00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:16.480 open up holes on the run game. You cannot win with your trenches performing 647 00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:22.199 like that. You know they Xavier Henderson talked about it. Guys in the 648 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.000 preseason, like before the season started, and he said we're gonna go as 649 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:34.199 far as the offensive line takes us suish statement probably ever, I mean, 650 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:38.159 yeah, man, yeah, this is that that you can't you can't keep 651 00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:43.920 going when you when your offensive line is a sieve and allowing guys to to 652 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:49.039 tackle and sack the quarterback, it makes them seat ghosts. It's bad for 653 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.039 everybody. Man. You gotta be able to run the ball, and you 654 00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:52.679 gotta be able to protect the quarterback, and you got to be able to 655 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.880 take care of the football. So you know, I know that that there's 656 00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.239 a lot of bad that happened in that game. There was some good things 657 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:05.559 as well. Absolutely, you know, we're looking forward now to try to 658 00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.639 put this behind us and learn from this game so that they can prepare for 659 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:15.039 the Wisconsin Baphs already started the week of practice and again one of the biggest 660 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:19.039 things that I see is that this team has not started to end fight and 661 00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.320 things like that. They know they have injuries and they're young, and so 662 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:24.800 what do you see like this for to wrap up this recap, what are 663 00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:30.880 your final thoughts on us? My final thoughts is we got young guys who 664 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:37.239 are getting prime quality time on the field, and we are going to take 665 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:42.760 lumps because of our youth. But when the boys are mature, man, 666 00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:47.800 it's gonna be something scary. And so I think it's encouraging because you know, 667 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.920 we played a top squad who snub in the CFP and you know, 668 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:58.360 competing for a national championship, and so we measured up as best as we 669 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:01.440 could. But the people that we had and you know, I think we 670 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.880 will be able to take a hard look at ourselves. And you know it's 671 00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.960 already released. I mean after Sunday man and things and the trash is ready 672 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:14.440 to get to the next week. So as we prepare for Wisconsin them coming 673 00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:20.239 off of a win finally, and then obviously on our homecoming for this weekend, 674 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.480 I just feel like we have nothing to lose. And I've said this 675 00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:28.639 before, it's a it's us against the world mentally. I think we got 676 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.639 to go back to those roots. It's always been to us against the world 677 00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:37.079 mentality, and a band of brothers got to bond together and praying that those 678 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:42.440 guys are are are clicking more than what we see outside on that Saturday, 679 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:47.280 because we were way more than judging on Saturdays, which we obviously this is 680 00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:52.559 what we play this game, and it's it comes with the territory of being 681 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:57.159 judged on Saturdays. But we're way more than that, and so we'll win 682 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.480 the game during the weekend. We got to prepare properly. I think that's 683 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:05.079 what they're doing this week. All right, well said Otis. You know, 684 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.000 I know that our counterpart had to take off and leave for a moment 685 00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:13.199 because he has some husbandly duties to do, fatherly things to do. And 686 00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.119 that's okay. It's all about the kids, all about the family, right, 687 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:21.519 you know, a great show. We look forward to breaking down the 688 00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:27.599 Wisconsin homecoming matchup in our next episode. This will put a boat on the 689 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.800 recap of the Ohio state game. One thing is positive that young people are 690 00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.639 extremely resilient. These guys are going to move on, learn from it and 691 00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:40.199 progress and hopefully get to w this Saturday. And for Otis Wildly, I'm 692 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:45.320 Jason Strayhorn. This is Sparta. Have a good night, God bless and 693 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:55.679 go Green, go wife. You know about time