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All right, everybody's coming back to the house. Tory and the rest of
them. Mikaela talks about how it's all working out well and they need to
keep focusing on getting out the vets. And then Tori and Amanda fight with
a hokey little background music plane. What did you guys think of the fight?
Toy versus Amanda? Who's gonna win? I was very confused by why
they were even fighting. Both of them are fucking stupid. Tori's saying that
it's Amanda's fault that john A went home, which like doesn't make any sense.
And you know, she's a mad at Amanda for voting wrong even though
they can vote for whoever they want. I don't know, things ridiculous and
I hate to say it, but Amanda's like makes sense. She's like,
we're not friends, Like, why would you think I would vote for you?
So well, Tori's game focus. Tori thinks that was a bad move
for her game, which maybe it was, but so what, We're about
to get into the same ship with Bananas and Corey. It's like they can
do whatever they want. Man, they don't have to do what you want
just because you think it's smarter. Well, there's a reason why Bananas and
Tory has won and Corey and Amanda have not. All right, Well,
I get used to be defending Bananas because he's about to look like a douchebag,
Zach, and it's reflected upon you. Yeah. So we have a
new uh new alliance guys with a new stupid name, the Secret Garden,
Oh God, which consists real stupid consists of Chanel, Daisy, Alissa,
Michelle, and Tiffany. They're just over in their bedroom, like kind of
whispering quietly to each other while Tori and Amanda fight. So I actually like
this. I like this alliance despite the stupid name. What do you guys
think the names stupid? I don't mind the actual alliance. Yeah, same.
I think this alliance has it has the potential to go really far because
they've got some really strong women on it. I feel like they need to
recruit recruit a few dudes, yeah, because you can only go so far
if it's just a single sex in your alliance. I think I bet there's
dudes that are with them that are maybe not like like super with them,
but I bet that you know, there's a lot of survivors on that one.
I a lot of the survivor dudes would back them up. Yeah.
Yeah, I think people like Monty as well is probably with them. Yeah.
I would think so too. He wants to know whose team are you,
guys on, Amanda or Tory. Probably Amanda just because she seems more
real. I'm on team Tory. Like I get it, Like the Vets
are out numbered, so even if they don't like each other, they need
to put that aside and work as a cohesive unit to like survive. I
don't know or see anybody with the name Amanda. I don't like them wow,
even just the name. Yeah, I mean I like Amanda for for
TV sake, because she's fun to watch, because she's fucking I mean,
they're both fucking nuts. But yeah, Tory, and Tory gets real annoying
because she flip flops a lot, and her not even necessarily flip flops,
she just she back so like last season she backed like six different people and
then that came a bitter in the ass, And Amanda usually has like this
is her set of people, then if you fuck with that set of people
should be real mad. Yeah, so probably Abanda. It just drives me
nuts when any of these people are getting so upset because it's like, you
didn't vote the way I think you should have voted. We're going to get
into that with bananas here in a second, Chaos. It's no, Wolf,
you don't really hate Johnny you love him? Low key, No,
I totally hate him. I've legit had dreams where I've somehow ended up on
the challenge because of course, and I straight up tell him to his face
that he's a bitch, and then does he smoke you in the elimination.
Oh, I totally send his ass home. It's great. It is a
dream for a reason. Well, speaking of Bananas, we get him talking
to Wes and Corey. This is when Wes is like on the treadmill and
whatever, and Bananas saying to Corey like, you have no choice. Really,
you have to team up with the Vets because they're coming after us,
so you have to vote with us. But we get a confessional with Corey's
saying like, Hey, I like these guys, but they've never had my
back. I've played with them a bunch of times, they're always against me,
and now they're trying to recruit me for this thing. I don't know.
I don't I don't know if I trust him. Uh. I think
he's got a point. What do you guys think of this Tory or Corey
versus Bananas thing? I go ahead, Carl, No, go for it.
I'm totally with Corey because they have never once like ever helped him or
kept him around or anything. And he's always on the losing side. And
even if he wasn't alliance, guess what, he's at the bottom of that
alliance. Yep, so you might as well be at the top. Of
his own alliance. Yep, I agree. I agree Zack. Uh,
well, if I do before I defend Banans, do you have any thoughts
Allison, I would agree with you. I think that he should go against
the Vets. Yes, we're gonna see a break up. They're gonna break
up on the podcast, all right, and Zick, So they've been fighting,
what with Corey for seven eight years now, yet we've seen West and
Bananas fight for twenty years. But when they realize, hey, it's now
more beneficial for us to work together, they did it and they did really
well. So Coin needs to get over his ego. You know. That's
like people like Bananas the Red Team. There's no egos about the Red Team.
Sure, but yeah it's a blue team. Yeah, and he's on
there now. But yeah. So, like Coin needs to realize that it's
never benefited Bananas in the past to work with me, but now, because
of the way the season is set up, it benefits him to work with
me. So he's going to do it because he plays smart. I'm like
Corey, well, can I can I talk out of the both sides of
my mouth? Because I think I think it's smarter for Corey to join Bananas.
I think Corey should have done that, But I also don't get Bananas
being so upset because Corey made a different decisions, Like this is a game
that you can just play however you want, and because Corey went a different
way, well, sorry Bananas, but now you've got to like figure it
out. I don't think Corey owed him anything to do it. I think
Corey made the wrong choice, but that's his choice to make. Okay,
So in any other season where we have normal rookies, I would agree with
that, but we don't have normal rookies in this season. This season is
full of a bunch of rookies with quotations around it, who have all played
games like this before, who are killing it in this season, who have
some serious potential to drive Wes and Johnny and Corey and all of the vets
add of this game. So him trying to partner with Wes and Johnny,
who have already been targeted majorly targeted, him trying to join them, I
mean, their alliance is so much smaller, where if he can throw his
game in with Fessie and Josh. Up until this point, we're not talking
about later. We're talking abou now Josh, Josh and Fessie and all of
the other people on in this game, he has so much more of a
potential of going farther. It just it. But let me let me throw
this at you, Carlin. They're gonna always go after West and Bananas first,
right, no matter what Corey's at, no matter what alliance he's playing
with. I think West and Bananas always number one and two. Yeah,
even if Corey defects to the rookies or the newbies, they're gonna come after
him next. They're gonna come after him after West and Bananas because he's a
VET. He's an MTV VET, So I think he's in that order no
matter where he's playing. So you might as well have an allegiance to somebody.
You might as well have somebody that's gonna stay loyal to you. I
feel like he could if I don't know if it's Corey is smart enough for
us, but I feel like he does have the potential to play it calm
enough and sit in the background enough where he helps his team to go along
and helps his alliance to get go forward, but plays in the background kind
of like see t has in in the last few seasons, kind of like
Durrell has, where he gets carried along for long enough that by the time
that they realize that he's still there there at the final I feel like he
has that potential if he stays with the with the quote unquote rookies. But
if he aligns himself right now with Johnny and Wes and makes a big fuss
about any of it, then yeah, he's absolutely third one out. Ye
all right, Well, anyway back to whatever's going on the s. I
mean, I was just gonna say, I mean, Durrell and CT get
there laying back on the backs of the ogs and the veterans. So I
think that's the difference, is I think, And I think that's why Banan's
got so upset with Corns. He's like, you know, it's very plain
to see that you're the third target. No matter what, they're never gonna
have loyal to you, to you, no matter what you do, They're
gonna use you and then throw you away like trash. And it's still blunt
to him to see why are you not? But Zach, he was mad
at Corey for himself. That's why I don't like Banana's a stance here.
He wasn't saying Corey, you fucked up your own game and you're not gonna
go as far. He's saying, Corey, why did you do this to
me? Which is just like a fucking shitty argument. It's a Johnny Banana's
argument exactly. It's making it all about himself, as Tory is about to
do too well. He also, if Corey was a team up with Johnny
and Wes, then he has all the newbies going after him, plus the
risk of like, well, we do have to get rid of a vet,
so West and Johnny be like, just give him Corey, we don't
care. Yeah, Whereas if he at least teams up with the newbies,
at least it's like, well, we can all take out Johnny and West
and we don't have to worry about me for right now. And so let's
sort of leave Cory alone for a while. Yeah, we'll see. Time
will tell, as they always do in this show. So this is where
we get Paulie laying in bed talking to Tory of all people, about his
sexuality, which is like, even that's weird. One, why is probably
talking to Tori? Have we ever seen these people talking before about something so
such a sensitive topic. Yeah, I don't remember. He talks about how
he wants to be a gay icon. Well, he said he dressed like
a gay icon, Freddie Mercury. Yeah, but he dressed a gay icon.
But if I remember correctly, he says something to the effect of,
like I always wanted to be like Freddie Mercury, a gay icon, Like
I you will never never, never, ever ever, Like even attempting to
reach Freddie Mercury status for you is just asinine, Like you will never be
that person. Yeah, he's terrible, but he does say he's not proud
of who he's been on the past, like his TV self is not his
true self, is not his best self. Now he's gone to therapy,
he's he's in a good headspace. He's trying to do better. I don't
know. I approve of that. I just wish this had this message,
had a better messenger, because Paul's the fucking He's still the worst. My
opinion does not change at all. Yeah, goose Force, says ug Am.
I seeing personal growth from Polly. Part of it feels like yes,
But at the same time, it also feels like he has figured out a
way to make it sound like personal growth yeah, without actually growing. Yes,
this is TV personal growth. This is I can look I can look
good on TV for two and a half episodes. Yeah, if I say
these things, then I will because I know that there will only be a
maximum of fifteen minutes of my face on this show for the next for two
and a half three episodes. Right, So I didn't get it from the
show, and maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention. But apparently he
has come out as bisexuals, she's still the douchebag. No, totally,
I'd get it. I'm just I just I do want to take a moment.
It's a good for him. At least he's not feeling like he has
to hide. It's true. I mean, even if who he is is
kind of a anyway. Yeah, well, and I can see if if
he was bisexual and sort of uncomfortable with that and felt like he had to
hide that part of him, maybe that did express itself from him being a
fucking douchebag for the last five years. And so like, I feel bad,
I'll give him another shot. That's fine. He has not proven himself
this season to me, and now he's gone, so you gotta come back.
PAULI and prove it that you're actually better, because I'm so far not
buying it. Yeah, he's bisexual, but he's been with car for five
years. Just because he's bisexual and he's been with a woman for five years
doesn't mean that he's not bisexual. Yeah, he could be bisexual. I've
got plenty of friends who were bisexual and have been with their partners for ten
plus years. Yeah, sa, like that doesn't matter, like you're you're
not constantly flipping back and forth like no, i'man Good for him for coming
out and good for him for feeling comfortable with himself. Yeah, but I
just yeah, but don't buy it. Don't buy it. I don't buy
it. I don't buy it. Yea. All right, Well, with
that, weren't of the challenge? Will be? Well, Carus says,
but did he explore those five years when he was with her? Problems?
Definite possibility because apparently they like to share people. Okay, but again again,
just because you're bisexual does not mean that you were polyamorous. Well,
they are polyamorous, though, I know, but I'm saying just in general,
just because you are bisexual and with it, one doesn't one doesn't inform
it specific sex partner does not mean that you are also polyamorous and want the
other sex as a partner at that time. Yeah. Yeah, because I
believe we talked about last season about her and Polly having these sex camp outs
with fans. Yeah, yeah, I think they do. Turbo and Brittany
were part of those. I think they just have big non Mormon orgies everything.
I mean, no Mormon's allowed, have a sign found out what we
should use the Patreon money for this year. You know, if Car is
there, guys, really is my last episode by Carlan. If Car is
there, you know I've had a thing for person's cutthroat, so you know,
I'm not gonna say I can understand how Turbo would be the person who
would bring him out of his shell. Amazed Turbo from the first season that
we saw him, not Turbo from the last season. I think his type
is crazy people, so Turbo fits right in there. Oh yeah, I
was obviously talking about for you you three, because I have an amazing girlf
and I would never go to an orgy. Well, then that counts Wolfie
out as well, So it's Tim and I and I don't think either of
us. Won't for that. What I'm supposed to speak for yourself? I'm
up for that. Oh God, alright, magnet, it are we done
making Carlin feel awkward? Let's move on, all right? This challenge is
called capsized. There's eight booies. They have to flip this boat over.
They have to read a key to like put the flags in order, and
then like go swim. Whatever fucking this is so Dusty starts talking about how
much he loves bananas. Zach, is Dusty your new best friend? Or
what do you relate to this guy? I love the fact that for twenty
years West has come on the show trying to convince us he's one of the
smartest to ever be on it, and Dusty just proved that he is in
one episode. Jesus Chris, Dusty's obsession with banana's is seriously fucking bizarre.
It is a bizarre thing. It's kind of Psycho Stoker style, like between
this episode and the next episode, it's kind of Psycho Stoker like the nope
he wrote in spoilers spoilers for the next episode, he cried, switched teams.
I mean, but do we think I would do any different than Dusty
if I was there, so I, Oh God, I fucking hope so,
and we give you endless ship for exact. It's fucking weird this Dusty.
His obsession with bananas rules out any cuteness that comes from him. Allison,
what's it feel like to have a boyfriend who's so in love with another
guy so in love with an asshole for a long period of time he has
met Johnny for the last twenty years has been in love with an asshole.
Well, you've knowne Zack longer than I have. So I also get so
upset when I see guys like Dusty that have a full head of hair and
they do that with it, the fucking part like I had in fucking fifth
grade part, like what are you doing? If I had hair, I
would do I would do much better than that. I would have a giant
mohawk. I would sometimes just grow it long and look like Fabio for a
while, like Zachtly. Yeah, I miss the hair. Yeah, but
Dusty, it's like, what the fuck are you doing with that thing on
your head? Man? Real stupid. I missed the hair too. It's
been about twenty years though. From same Z's all right, so we start
this competition. It drives me nuts. How many non swimmers we have on
these teams every season? What are why can't they just take some swim lessons?
Please? Yes, please? So Tiffany, sorry is that good?
We got to this part and Alison looked at me. I was like,
why is Tiffany even on the show? Yeah, I don't. I don't
get it. If you can't swim, like, get out and not just
her. It's constantly every season there are people who do not know how to
swim, but know how to do certain basic things. Yeah, I've got
Tiffany needs help. She's writing on somebody's back. Oh and fessis speaking of
people with stupid haircuts. Fessi's dressed like Ernest in one of these confessionals.
You guys see this bullshit like a denim thing with the cutoff sleeves and shit.
Real stupid. Anyway, Alyssa s can't swim. A man to can't
swim. It's like, I agree, Like, what are you doing on
the show? I get so upset? Why can't you go? Are you
on this show? People are dumb? Yeah? Yeah, I just don't
understand it. Like it's the first season that I'm bringing up Turbo again.
The first season that Turbo was on, it was a lot of fun because
he not only like I don't I don't remember if we had any swimming challenges
that season, but like swimming is one of the things, eating is one
of the things. He's the only person I've ever seen even attempt to try
to eat a lot of food and then run directly after it. Like,
these are all things where if you're coming on this show, you should know
how to do it. Yeah, like this survivor any of these amazing race
like any of these CBS shows, Well, now it's a CBS show,
any of these CBS shows. You should know how to swim. You should
know how to run, You should know how to eat a lot of gross
things like even puzzles. You should, you should, you should practice puzzles
like get get a Tangram set and like fucking do it if you just start
class more lions and less chickens. Stanley, who I'm assuming can stand the
man posted in the chat room, I hate to point it out, it's
generally my people who can't swim. Some stereotypes are true. Well yes,
but stand coming from five white people, we aren't really allowed to say that
Amanda and Alyssa also couldn't swim, and Leroy took lessons and he did it
very much improve And it's like took Leroy like fifteen years to take lessons.
I know it. I know it. And also they're never like if you
get through childhood and can't swim, you're probably never going to be a great
swimmer. But you can go from like a shitty swimmer to an almost average
swimmer to save yourself if you're drowning in water, Like, yeah, like
be able to swim. What however far this was, you know, like
you can you should be able to teach yourself how to do that. You
know, it's like anything else, Like some things come naturally to people and
that's great. Some things you gotta work at work at it, Like try
to swim this pathetic. Yeah, people, if you even if you can't
swim, teach your kids to swim. Yes, yeah, it's a need
needed skill since we're gonna melt the ice caps and I'll drown anyway. Yeah,
I think you're a former competitive swimmer. So what's the secret, Allison?
How do how do we get good throw babies in an eighteen months?
And only the strong survive. I've seen those videos. It's fun. You
can't really teach a baby how to like float to keep their face above the
water. It's super weird though. It's it's wild, and it's terrifying to
watch. I bet it's terrifying to watch the videos online, which just like
be there. Yeah, I mean, I think the only time that I
have been legitimately worried about, other than the Leroy hitting a car and dropping
into the water, the only time I've been legitimately worried by someone who has
fault jumped into the water and not been able to swim was I think Jose
he jumped in and immediately panicked. Oh my god, like heart in butthole
watching this on a TV screen, like this man is gonna die on what
is happening right now? How are you on a show and you don't know
how to do this and you just jumped into Oh yeah, wasn't didn't Tony
also like rupturesquen jumping into the water. But yeah, yeah, but that
wasn't any Yeah, that wasn't a couldn't swim thing. That was a he
felt funny thing. Yeah, both he and Leroy felt funny. Leroy was
knocked out by hitting the car and Tony felt funny into the water. MEATCHI,
sorry, yes, that's right, Ryan, right, Meatchie jumped in,
not JOSEA. No. I think jose had a moment too though on
because I remember jose doing that doing a similar thing. Okay, maybe,
yeah, but I think Meatchi's the one that I'm really thinking of where he
legitimately looked like he was dying. Yeah. Well, nothing really to report
on this challenge guy has nothing all that important happened. But I do have
a question for you. At the end of it, Green has nineteen flags,
right, the other two teams have twenty. My question for you,
how is it possible to have nineteen? Isn't it either? Exact question,
It's got to be eighteen, right, unless there's just more hooks than there
are flags. That's the only way it would work. Yeah, right,
to be when they had to twemend get the flags, that there might have
been some like extra flags or some red herrings to throw that ould grabbed the
last flag and then they just swam out and to the end. Okay,
someone dropped in To be real, honest, I was in and out of
sleep at this point in time because I had been out in the sun all
day long, so I thought of it immediately last night. Okay, I
didn't. I didn't watch it on Thursday. I watched it last night after
my market and was just I was exhausted. So I only have to remember
everybody in the chat room was saying, Jose did do that on Champs versus
Stars took yep, though I did. The one thing that I really cut
onto this game. No balls. It's a first game that we've had.
They use them all. They use them all in that pool, that first
pool towns well. So with Blue and Red both getting every flag correct,
it comes out of time and Blue wins it by seven minutes. And yeah,
that's the challenge a long time. It really is, And I think
everybody kind of knew it once they realized that they both got the twenty as
everybody was just sort of waiting for Taj to announce it. This was not
one of these separated by three seconds sort of things. Yeah, in my
going in and out, I do remember Blue did seem to move through it
pretty clearly. But they seem to have a pretty good strategy of having the
quadrants and all that they did. I think This is one of those where
the first team had had a big disadvantage just because their first they were team
in a little longer to prepare, all right, And with that we're on
denominations. Nominations. Hit the fucking button. I have to go to a
whole different page to do it. I was in the chat room, my
bad so Blue team is at the table. They're trying to figure out who's
going in. This is when Alyssa breaks in with the maybe it's not always
about you to Tori. Let's see a lot of chatter about that online.
Would you guys think of this move? She's got a point. Yeah,
and everybody gets so concerned about themselves Tories like but but and it's like,
yeah, but this has nothing to do with you. This is something to
do with a bunch of other people. Yeah. I just love that phrase.
I think that is the perfect, perfect like this is gonna piss off
whoever you're talking to phrase like, maybe it's not always about you. No
matter who you're talking to, it's gonna piss him off. It's great,
Carlin, Has anybody ever said that to you? Tim loves confrontation, but
especially in a game like this, that is the perfect line to really stir
up some drama that gets you going. You wouldn't even have to be talking
about anything personal, and you could throw that line at somebody and did make
it mad. It's great, it's great, Wolfie. Have you ever have
you ever had that said to you or said that to anybody else. I'm
sure somebody it's probably said it's me. Maybe next wife said it's no idea.
I said, it's a hill. It was great, it's very fun.
It's very fun. Welcome to divorce therapy. Good lord. Uh So,
as they're at this table, Corey starts talking and he sounds I can't
even like, I can't even compare what Corey's voice sounds like here, What
what the fuck happened? Did you guys notice his voice? And why is
it sound like this? I think he just lost it, probably from screaming
earlier at the challenge. That's I mean, it had to be that,
because it doesn't you know in the confessionals even it's okay, but it's weird
that it's so bad. Here? Have you swallowed some of that gross lay
voice? I feel really bad, especially later when Bananas is yelling at him
and he can tell Corey wants to yell back, and it's just not happen.
It's like all it sounds like a prepubescent boy, you know, poor
poor Corey. Poor form here given on the Peter Brady. It's right,
pork chops, apple shot very timely. Alright, So I guess everybody votes
here, guys, I don't know. I don't My notes are mess here.
Bananas is clearly the target for the male vote, but the female votes
a little different. A lot of women get votes, and we land on
Corey. Corey kind of doesn't know what to do, but bananas is clearly
going to be thrown in any way, and so he just sort of shrugs
and he's like, well, I guess bananas, like it's gonna be banas,
So I guess I'm gonna vote banas. Tory is immediately pissed off Adam,
But what do you guys think, Like, if I'm Corey in this
position, I would do the same thing. If it's gonna be bananas,
Why rock the boat? Why cause drama? Just fucking this is this is
challenge one on one if and I think Bananas and West are the two who
championed this every year when they're the last ones to be in that lineup to
vote. If there's a single name that's being thrown out there time and time
again, or over and over again in a single nomination, why rock the
boat? Why say anybody? Why piss anybody else off? Like they are
the champions of this. Why is he mad at this? Why is she
mad at this? Because it impacts them? Or they think that they once
again Tories made it all about this issue, is that it doesn't do anything
for them. Yeah, I think this is bullshit for me. Wolfee,
what do you think? It's all same? Like, no matter what,
the alchem is going to be the same. And he literally is just like,
well, I guess my name is an Amander going in? Yeah it
wasn't. My vote doesn't really seem to matter, so yeah, I mean,
honestly, the only thing that would really help him is if he just
said, well, I guess I burn on myself, right, Like,
yeah, he could burn it, or he could piss off somebody else by
saying a different name and said he just goes with who everybody else is saying,
which seems smart to me. Zach tell us why we're wrong. I
don't think you're wrong at that point, I think maybe the argument is he
should have spoken up sooner and really like tried to steer the the conversation at
different direction, us his veteran influence to push things. There is no veteran
influence in this game. And you say that, but like, I think,
next episode we'll talk about Josh doing some of it. Oh Josh,
fuck Josh. Uh. Well, Tory is annoyed. She says quote her
voice means nothing in this vote, and it's like, yeah, Tory,
that's a fucking democracy. That's how it works, Dared. Everybody votes.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. You lost, fucking Tory. I
hate Tory now too. But Bananas is mostly pissed off at Corey. He
thinks he felt like Corey should have had his back, but Corey tells Bananas
we were outnumbered. This is all stupid. But what I did like is
Banana's wit to Fessi and he says you're a bitch too, which I'm into
that, bringing Fessie into this, calling him a bit surprisingly quiet in this
game. Yes, he's finally just shut his fucking mouth. Yep, just
put on that weird denim vest fucking ernest and just keep your mouth shut.
So then Banana's INFESTI are fighting and it's just a mess. But Johnny just
walking around and be like what what guys, come on, you're a bunch
of bitches for voting that way. Yeah, just like, calm, calm
the fuck down. If the situation were reversed, he'd be like, it's
the fucking game, dude, I was outvoted. What are you gonna do?
All's fair and love Warren challenges, right, Zach. So this is
when we get we get bananas in the kitchen. This is the This is
like the cutscene montage of Banana just being ridiculous, and I love his opening
line. He says, there's a zero percent chance of me winning if they're
gonna throw me in every time. It's like, yeah, dude, that's
the fucking point. Like what what point are you trying to prove? Won
seven times already? No one wants you to win again. Yeah, I
give him the Nelly Award, states the completely obvious thing that you're seeing on
the scree Yeah, you guys don't get it. You guys don't get it.
If they keep voting for me, I'm not gonna win it. Every
time. I think I think that I think that last to say that,
like, look, I'm gonna be the constant target. Use me, bring
me along because I can't win. Now, that's not because win. Don't.
Don't even try to pretend like, hey, he's being all truistic with
his Oh I'm gonna been voted in every time. No, you can be
voted in every time because no one fucking wants you to win, and you're
yes, he's woe is me right here? He's like, guys, nobody's
protecting me. I'm gonna I can't win. I'm not gonna win. Yeah,
nobody wants you to win. Man, everybody else I want crew killers
are just coming out. I mean, nobody in the house wants him to
win because they're trying to win too, remember, want them to wind wants.
Oh my god, remember all those times Bananas where you were like,
well that person, you have to keep voting until well, you know what
it's going to be like yep. Yeah. But speaking of Dusty, this
is a quote that was so ridiculous I had to type it out word by
word. He says, Bananas is my hero. I want to build my
relationship with him. I want to learn from him. He's Dusty Gay.
I have no idea, but he's he's weird. If he's not, then
he is for Johnny. Yeah, there's something weird going on there. I
can't understand it well. Every time I see him, and every time he
opens his mouth, especially about any of the Johnny stuff. I remember when
we were talking about him in the in the pre show episode where apparently he
would get real. He was very Amanda with the way that he would react
to things, especially if things weren't going his way. So it's just every
time he starts talking like, oh, this is this is the dramatic guy
that's coming out. This is the over over dramatic and lots of emotion and
just yeah, there's something off there. Yeah, super weird and yet wearing
a somewhat athletic hoodie, as Jacqueline notes in the chat room, and so
does Goose Farce. Oh I missed it. Sorry, all right. So
this is when we get the Red Team meeting and they're basically saying to Bananas
like it's gonna be you, So who do you want to go in against?
They're kind of throwing out some names, and then they pan over and
Amanda's there in the room, kind of chiming in on who this should be,
who's not even on this team? And shit like this is why I
love Amanda. It's like she doesn't belong there at all. She's just sort
of there chilling her out on it, racking up. I love that.
That was so good. I did too, Shit like this is why I
just love Amanda. She's so weird. They're here, a man, can
we have a team meeting in here? She's like, I'm kidding though,
yep, just pretend like she's not. There was a big Amanda hat the
last couple episodes. She's annoying. There's a lot of drama. She's very
annoymal. You'll come good two or three seasons. She's fun and I will
say I do like Johnny. However, I don't know much backstory on him
other than what Zack told me, but I think his timber tantrum the first
time Johnny pathetic, right, he looked like a pathetic idiot, gross like
him. I mean, yeah, I will. I'll reserve that comments since
you now have a girlfriend sitting next to you. I did. I did
send her like a clip overviewing the Sarah's decision, and she uh, she
was pro taking money, Allison, we all come out to those Yeah,
did did he tell you? Did Zach tell you? I ran into Johnny
Bananas at an airport at one time? No, you'll never hear that.
I'm very private about that story. I don't like sharing it. But you
should just tell her maybe zacn time. I mean I just did. I
met him at an airport one time, Wendy Airport, Wendy. He said,
what's up, brother? Yeah, pretty cool, very cool moment for
me. I feel like you haven't actually told that story in a solid season
or so. Well, there it was there, It was all right.
We're into the secret vote. Bananas has a weird confessional. We get.
We get these weird confessionalis these last two episodes where they're sitting in a room
alone by themselves with a camera that's slightly out of focus, super weird.
I didn't even notice that. Yeah, but he's all sad. He says
he's worried about this elimination. It's like, whatever, dude, And with
that, we're into the elimination. Yes, So TJ gets up there.
He goes over the numbers of who gets the votes. So basically we've got
Josh with two votes. Tyler with three votes, Chanel with one vote.
Somebody threw a vote on Chanel. Despite everybody seeming to want this, we
want to make this a men's day. Paulie gets three votes and Monty gets
five votes, and so TJ goes and flushes that toilet. Turns out it's
gonna be Bananas versus Polly in a game called Fire and Ice. I fucking
hate this hopper and I think somebody said it was called the toilet, also
called the toilet. I'm just embracing that. I'm gonna forever call listing the
toilet. It's terrible. So we see this challenge a lot on like Survivor,
and I think we've even seen a variant of it on the Challenge where
you have to hold an arm over your head. It's harder than it looks.
But the this instead of water or something spilling on you, it's fish
guts, which I don't know. I don't think that enhances the game at
all, frankly, But what I did like is you're standing on a block
of ice and you gotta throw bean bags at a target, and this target
will switch on like a fire that burns under your opponent's ice and so whoever
it like throws basically it's whoever throws a last bean bag is at a pretty
big advantage because that fire can keep burning unless you choke, like Polly would.
And yeah, that's basically it. So they all throw these bean bags,
and from what I could tell, every single beanbag connected, every single
last beanbag connected until the very last one. Polly had it. And Polly
could have given himself a big advantage had he hit that target. But he
choked on the very last one, and so the fire is under his ice
and he's kind of screwed. Yeah, you know, go ahead, because
I just wanted a big fan of the beanbag aspect to it, because like
I feel like you said, really, whoever hits that last one, I
think just wins, and it kind of takes away the elimination part of it
after that, except he screwed up it lost. So but once you missed
it, I seemed like it was a foregone conclusion at that point, and
like all the suspense was gone. They should have made the target smaller or
something, because I don't think they assumed that every single bean bag would connect.
Yeah, I also kind of feel like they should have. They either
should have made the target small so that not all of them would connect,
or just to have a constant running like you get bean bags this entire time,
so it's constantly going back and forth. But the last time they did
this style challenge style elimination on the challenge, Johnny was also in that one.
It was against john a No, not Johnny, it was against I
think it was still against Polly though, because it was Polly and Natalie.
Natalie, yeah, and she had they had both of their arms up and
they'd win for like two and a half hours. Yeah, I think bananas
would have gone for forever. And I know they said that about Polly too,
but I really think bananas, you don't think would have gone? No,
did you not see how old he was old? And the way that
he was tensing up? And the first thing that I started thinking about was
the fact that the last time they did this for two and a half hours,
he said his back was fucked. So I have a feeling that even
just doing it for that like half an hour or forty five minutes by the
time, I honestly don't think that he would have made it much farther than
much longer than what Polly did. Yeah, yeah, well five hours the
last time they did this, I mean it was something ridiculous, like everything
wise. Yeah, sorry, but I liked it. Then when Polly choked
on that last one, TJ showed a little bit of humanity. He's like,
oh my god, he was laughing. He couldn't believe it. They
connected on every single bean bag except that very last one. And so yeah,
they stood up there for thirty eight minutes and four seconds before Polly lost.
I thought Polly was actually gonna pull this one out. Did you You
looked like a fucking serial killer out there here, no expression on his face,
nothing so focused. Yeah, his arm didn't actually go down when it
fell, So I wonder if it was just from like just from where the
rope was at once melted when the ice also melted at a slant, so
I think he was sort of fighting gravity and like kind of trying to have
to walk keep walking back up that ice as it was slanting down. But
yeah, anyway, he lost on his way out. He says, I
finally feel like I have nothing more to prove to anyone but myself. Bananas
saying that made me feel like an actual challenger. Oh my god, crying
the gross and then Tim loves feelings that I just all emotions, just emotions,
They're so stupid. Speaking of emotions, we cut to Dusty saying to
lose Banana's early would be so detrimental to my psyche. What the fuck is
with this guy? I'm telling you he is. He is not only a
challenge super fan, he is a psycher psycho stalker around Johnny Banana, like
we need to put out it protectible around john Yeah, it's a well,
it's worrisome, unbelievably weird. This guy unbelievably weird. Do not this make
it's super uncomfortable. We end this episode as gonna sound a wolf in him?
Remember this, but when we met Bananas in Yorkville, there was a
guy there with a full back tattoo of Johnny's face, So that I think
we're okay, I don't remember that? Was it you, Zach? Was
that you? You drunk like girl? So Johnny he went to the main
like the main area, not the VIP area we were and and he's like,
who's my biggest fan? I was gonna go up there, but then
some guy came up has like Johnny's face on his arm, and then that
guy's like, oh I can beat that, and he came up his full
back beace of Johnny's face so crazy. I can confirm the Zach only has
three Johnny Bana's tattoos, so how many on his penis sorrow? All three?
And we get a cliffhanger of Banana's possibly flipping and that's where this episode
ends. Tell you Carlin all rights and also look like if I went on
the show and I agree, don't brag about that, Zach. It's super
weird. Yeah, super weird. It's super weird and creepy. Alright,
episode for uh. This episode is called double Crossed and side side swiped that
it's been a long weekend and it's getting late. Let's fast forward this episode
two. Who goes all right? So we are in the we opened up
in the arena and it starts off with Johnny saying, well, I think
I'm going to Corey. You're going to Blue piece out or going to Red
piece out. So he takes Corey spot on Team Blue and it pans to
it. First we've got a confessional from Melissa who says again that we were
a team that didn't have any egos on it. And now we have Johnny
Bananas and I just you still have Fessy, and I don't understand how you
think you have no egos? Like what are you talking about? And then
our favorite psycho Stoker, it pans to Dusty and Dusty has a confessional about
how he's so upset that Bananas has switched teams. It shows him when Banana's
actually does it, and he literally has tears in his eyes. And then
we get a gift. We get the gift of Johnny Bananas reading a note
that Dusty has written to him on the TV. I did not write down
the wording of the note. Didn't he like hide it in his bag too?
Like what? Yeah? So I don't know. I have a feeling
that Dusty did not think this was going to be read on TV, even
if it was, even if Johnny made it through, Like basically you say,
like I hope we're still friends and you're a really great guy and just
oh so weird, so weird, unbelievably weird. I could not get over
this note. Who would be who would do that? That's something you do
to like your boyfriend or your girlfriend that like your long term girlfriend and the
house like super weird to write it to your buddy who you just met like
six days before or something at this point. Yeah, because they've all probably,
like in actuality, they've probably only known each other for a maximum of
two weeks. Oh yeah, I mean yeah, I mean we're episode four.
This has to be like I was gonna, yeah, less than a
week. I think five or six days probably. Well, I mean they've
done four eliminations and four challenges, so it's usually their Their schedule from what
I understand, is usually like challenge elimination day off, Challenge elimination day off.
Well, this is the he wrote this on episode three, right,
wrote it between. Oh, yes, they're they're what like maybe nine days
in. I mean, at the most I would think, yeah, he's
been watching them on TV for like twenty years. Yeah, But if I've
been watching someone on TV for twenty years, I'm not going to write them
a fucking note, expect like one. I'm going to immediately assume that if
I write them a note, regardless of whether they go home or not,
that note is going to make it on TV. Yeah, there's no,
there's no way around it. You were pretty excited to join the podcast.
I have no qualms about that she never wrote me a note like that.
Guy, did she write you a note like that? Should I be pissed
off? I was excluded from the note writing I do. I don't have
it on my water bottle here, but my water bottle work does have a
challenged sticker from like five or six years ago. Very fancy that, very
fancy case says, remember when FESSI wrote Gabby a note? Oh my god,
yes, yep, and that was ridiculous. And remember c J wrote
one to fucking Ashley. Yeah, yeah, years and years and years ago.
That was weird. All these weird notes are are super weird, Yeah,
all of them. Like, if you write a note to somebody,
expect it's going to be read on the show, whether they leave or stay,
it's going to be read on the show, and you are going to
be ridiculed about it because it is just fucking weird. Yeah, super super
weird. Yeah. But all right, So they are back at the house
and Josh is super excited because he thinks he's now sitting pretty because his all
of the people he's aligned with are still there. So the next morning,
what was that I said? I also just want to jump in and remind
everyone that I originally got on this podcast because I wrote Wolfie and Tim and
notes, not a note like this one, A very appropriate note, not
a weird whatever. This thing was the Dusty l Man goose Force s brings
up. How about the notes Johnny left around the house. Yeah, yeah,
but all again, all of those were read. He wasn't ridiculed for
them because it was more of a plot point, and they were honestly kind
of funny. Yeah they weren't. They weren't weird and creepy. Exact,
there's nothing. Someone stop defending the zech. This is unbelievably weird behavior that
Dusty's doing. Super If Dusty ever comes back, I say, it's simply
because of the note. If there's no note, he never gets a second
shot the show. Honestly, I don't think unless he does something major in
the next few episodes, I don't think he's ever coming back. But he
does not. He doesn't have the charisma. He's almost everything that you see
him in unless he's talking about his love for Johnny Bananas or his love for
the challenge as a whole. He has nothing to give, like he doesn't.
He's nothing special in any of the challenges, So far and he doesn't
bring any drama, and anytime they'd hand to him in a group shot,
he's just kind of standing there. Yeah, yep, I agree. Yeah.
Every every confessional we've seen is oh I love the challenge, it's so
crazy to be on the show, and then oh I love Johnny Bananas.
Dusty, you got nothing, man, you got nothing. Even your name
is stupid, Dusty pell saw you really feel tim This is stupid name it
is. This is not like Timothy. Yeah, Timothy's way better. Dusty
is like a Dusty is like an adjective like, oh that dresser over there's
a real Dusty. No, that's not what it is. Now. Dusty
means like you're old and you've got shit all over you. You gotta clean
yourself off a right. True, he's got a stupid haircut. Nothing.
That guy's got nothing. So back to the challenge house. Nice shoulder,
I'll give him nice shoulders. Shows been that life as You've got some pretty
good shoulder. Yeah that's good. I'm just saying he shoulders. He wants
to write a note to Dusty about his shoulders, talking about it on a
podcast. As far as I'm gonna go, thousands of people will know my
love for dusty shoulders. That's all. That's my only love. So back
back in the house the next morning, I would murder someone if they started
off my day like this. Josh starts the day by just stumping a bunch
of shit all over everybody and then calling out Desi and Lewis to their faces.
Yeah, you feel being woken up by that wealthy well number one.
That just sounds like a nightmare. And I would not let that happen.
But his big dumb faces like, oh no, no, yelling about whatever.
I'd be like, just shut the fuck up. Nobody cares. You're
not a good player, Like, nobody's taking this seriously. You're not intimidating
anybody. You're not making a point. I mean, if you remember we
did discuss last week that up and NASA's appointed Josh as the future. Yeah,
and Banana's is wrong all the time, so that's fine. Yeah,
Amanda Also, I mean spoilers, Amanda leaves this episode and says that she
hopes Josh wins because he's such a great guy, and then she holds it
up with but I hate everybody else in the house. Yeah, So he
is Amanda's number one you are, you are trying to defend Amanda's number one,
Zach. I mean I love Amana. She's so pretty. Oh fuck
off you do not, Alison, How would you feel being woken up by
someone screaming in the house like that? No? Absolutely not. Yeah,
this temper tantrum is getting No. I think Josh just feels comfortable because nobody's
targeting him. But it's because he sucks, yes, exactly, and he
doesn't realize it. He doesn't realize that's why no one's targeting him. It's
like the season a few years ago, a few seasons ago, when he
tried to drum up drama with Wes. Yeah remember that I do, where
West was just kind of like okay, Josh, and then what would turn
around walk away and Josh he's there. Oh I know he's I know,
I know he's he's gonna vote me. Yeah, it was Josh has gotten
He has a few blow ups in this episode that are just they're just odd,
Like, Josh, no one, no one cares what you have to
say. So every time I go into a room, they're like scattering it,
like shut the fuck up. Yeah, I would just be like,
Josh, shut up the scatters what's eight times nine? Well, and the
other part of it is, Josh, they're scattering out of the room because
they don't want to talk game with you because per this episode, they know
the moment they talk game with you, you were immediately going to scare up,
scamper back to your little buddies and tell Johnny and Wes and all the
rest of the Vets, Hey, this is what they're gonna do. That's
why are they not talking game with you. That's why they don't want you
on their team. Yeah, Josh isn't a good place in the game because
he's with he's aligned with the Vets, he's aligned with Big Brother, and
he is somebody that they're not targeting at all. Nobody's looking at him.
So he's actually in like a really deceptively good place in the game. I
wonder how much he's actually aligned with Big Brother if I wonder if he's really
just aligned with FESSI and Fessie is aligned with Big Brother, or if he's
actually aligned with the Big Brother crew. Yeah, yeah, we'll see.
He's either going to be drug along until the final or he's gonna be cut
right before the final because somebody needs an easy elimination. Yeah, give me
the goof. I think it will fee yawning over there. But yeah.
Then it cuts to Desi and she's doing her her weird confessional that you were
talking about earlier. Tim, She's doing her confessional about how basically about imposter
syndrome, how she feels like an imposter in her entire life. And then
she's talking to Tiffany and Chanelle about it, and you know, this is
so stressful and this is the most stressful game that she's ever been in,
which I find a little strange because again, her conversations that we've just had,
they've only been there for like a week and a half. Yeah,
like you're that stressed out after a week and a half. Well, and
it's during this part I was like, oh, well, this is going
home, Like we're we haven't seen Dessi at all, and now she's having
these emotional moments like she's going home, just like Paully did last last episode.
I'm onto these editors. I know what's up. Except I mean,
I was wrong this episode. Be other than that, this is other than
being wrong. I'm right every time, Yes, Tim, the time,
I'm right. That's right. That's right, flip a coin, will be
right. I'll be right every time. It's got half the time. Well,
if you ready onto the challenge, I wasn't. I wasn't ready.
I even gave you time. Where are you at all? Right? Clicked?
I clicked it. It didn't go for a while, So blame this
shitty software Tim picked. I will sorry my bad next week. Next week,
it'll all be better. Maybe not. I mean, hopefully no one's
voices get lost in this episode and we can hear everything, all right.
So the challenge is called side swiped. It is, you know, their
favorite thing other than hides above water, two moving semi trucks. And you've
got two semi trucks moving down a track next to each other. The sides
of these semi trucks are covered and will kind of look like twister boards that
have the three colors red, blue, and green on the sides of them.
It's teams of two from each of the pairs from each team going at
the same time. They have to jump from one side of the semi to
the other, or one semi to the other across the opening to cover the
dots with their team's colors. You can play defense, which I didn't realize
at first. And you have five minutes to do as much as you can,
and you've got eight dots that you need to cover. And the big
twist to this one is that today is double eliminated. I hope every day
is double elimination. Yeah. So, I mean, there's not a whole
lot of notable things. The first pair up starts off with Amanda versus michaela,
which of course they're both super excited about, and Amanda makes one and
then drops all of the rest of hers. This is her second challenge that
she has completely shipped the bed. This is a man. Amanda shits the
bed, that's what she does. Yeah, but I mean the first challenge,
no one even clocked her on it, Like they clocked her for half
a second and then let it go. And they straight up lost that one
too, the other one, and I think this is just because I don't
like him. Josh says, Oh, I'm doing really well. I mean
I didn't stick two of them, but I'm doing really well. Okay.
Ryan said it was Amanda and Michelle. Oh sorry, Michelle, not a
kid. I had Michelle in my head and said, MICHAELO out load m
survivor players totally interchangeable. Yeah. So they're going through it and Blue is
failing miserably, and they have decided that the only way that they're going to
stay out of elimination is if they completely block Green to help Red win.
Because most of the Blue team has more Alliance players on the Red team than
they do on Green. Chris is the one who comes up with the idea
of, well, let's basically throw it and block Green entirely on this last
run. So that's what they do. Johnny is up with Tory against MICHAELA
and Monty, and Johnny being Johnny does a full show of oh whoops and
drops all of his dits at the same time. I just love to cut
back to home base and everybody's like, oh my god, what's happening?
Yeah? Yeah, And if it was it was it Bananas and Tori at
that last round. Yeah, and somebody scored a pointment I think it was
Tory yelled, well, now you gotta get a eleven. It was like
it was like there was no way they were gonna actually get score the amount
of points they needed to score here. Yeah. And not only that,
like there were a few times Michaela went twice because her team had less players,
and in her first round and in this round, there were points in
time where she would say something along the lines like get the fuck out of
the way. You could tell she was getting faced. Yeah, people weren't
moving out of her way. She's great. I love Michaela so much.
Well, it made me think, like, girl, you're playing a game.
They're not gonna move just because you want them to move. Yeah,
So I found that a little strange. Yes, she pulled Tori's hair.
Yep, oh, yep. Can mentioned that, Yes she yanked Tori's hair.
But I think it was like a warning yank. I don't think it
was like a heart like. I don't think she was doing it to hurt
her. I think it was just sort of like a just like a I'm
gonna play dirty here, you know, right. I think that's what it
was. Some people pay extra money for that on All right, all right,
Well Blue does a good job with this and they end up blocking him.
The Green team only gets two more points, and that ultimately means that
Red Winds, Mikaela and Monte are pissed when they come down from this.
Monte sitting there like, what the fuck was that? West? Then we
have we have a cut scene to West in the confessional booth trying to claim
the glory. I love West, but this seasons he's starting to really get
on my nerves. Same as soon as you said that, I was like,
that's BS West, Like people are throwing challenges to gett women long before
you were on the show. Yeah. Yeah, because he tries to claim
the glory by saying, it's nice to see that they did this move,
but I invented this move almost a decade ago. Yeah, I think this
was Kenny and Evan invented this move. Yeah, I think so too.
That trimmed the fat season they kept talking about trim the fat. Yeah,
it almost it. Honestly, it kind of felt like CBS is trying to
like Pepper in these little things that West is saying and things that Johnny says
to be like, hey, look there is a twenty year plus history of
this game, history of this show. Like go to MTV and watch or
go to Paramount Plus and watch all of these shows. You can see all
of this happened. That's what that felt like to me. Yeah, synergy,
I guess I feel like it's before I even Kevin and Anny or Kenny
and Evan, because I feel like back in the days of like CT and
Brad, we're doing this to Liken any yes and stuff like Long before the
Jack era. Yeah, no, I agree. I mean it's it's a
it's a move that's been Honestly, it's synonymous with the challenge. You can
give it a probably to Mark Long. Mark Long is probably the first one
that was like, let's get out these girls. Yeah, but Greg and
the chatroom notes that Timmy said trim the fact, trim the fat way back
on Inferno. All right, well maybe Timmy started then this is but yeah,
I mean it's it. Really, it really did feel kind of like
it felt out of place because it just did. But it also felt like
CBS trying to get people to go back and watch the catalog of shows.
Yeah, well, and West West is always the cocky asshole guy, Like
that's who West is. He's turned it up like he's turned up to a
twelve on this CBS version, and it's like it doesn't it's not quite as
authentic as it used to be and it's a little weird now and I don't
know, it rubs me the wrong way a little bit. I agree.
I mean, he's the last few seasons he's been on a straight up ten
with the cockiness level. But yet I agree that this season it does.
It's not it's not as authentic authentic. They agree with you on that one.
And then we had the great scene of the Red team hoisting bananas up
as their king. Yeah, poor bananas. By the way, he got
off the Red team because they're a bunch of losers. And then the Red
Team wins the very next one, bad move banana pants, but to be
a fair, the only one because bananas, you know, helped them win.
Like otherwise, was it bananas that helped him? No, I'm pretty
sure. Later when they're talking Johnny's like those those Chris's idea, wasn't my
idea? One smart of bananas to throw the blame on Chris, but too
Like, I mean, Banana's is the one that executed it. So that's
great. Banana's got all the good glory for it while giving Chris all like
the downfall from it. Dude, Zack, you really take his dick out
of your mouth, man, I mean, good christ petition to rename Zach
Dusty for the rest of this season seconded. All right, all right,
Allison, you in absolutely all right us. Sorry, Dusty, you gotta
start parting your hair like a douchebag on the side like me in fifth grade.
I'll do it, all right. So we're back at the house and
the Secret Garden is talking about going for Wes and Amanda and they're they're all
about it, all about it Desi, who's not on the same team as
the three of them are. They're going, yeah, I don't want to
go in, so go for West and Amanda and uh the other the vets
on the team say they're talking with Josh and they say they want Desi.
So then Josh says that he is willing to stalemate the vote and he will
go in if needed. What a fucking moron. Well it worked, I
mean that is that's stupid. Yeah, I mean it did. It did
ultimately end up working. But that is why would you ever say that out
loud? Because that's what he wanted. He he wanted them to go his
way, and it I mean it worked. Like listen, I don't want
to give Josh any credit. I hate this guy. No, but this
is this is before they're even in the in the deliberation, he's talking to
other people about saying that he's willing who sacrifice his own game so that Johnny
and West can go farther. Well, I don't think he would if push
came to shove. I don't think he would. But he's laying the groundwork
for like he's telling everybody like, I will not change my mind. This
is what is going to happen. And I think it planted a seat because
listen, the guy won, and this guy's terrible at everything, and he
won in this in this fight, so he did something right. So they
are in deliberation. They all walk into the Red team walks into deliberation and
says, okay, so blue is completely off the table, right, and
everybody agrees on it, which I agreed with that as well. I'm happy
that they made that decision. Sure, sure they could have thrown Johnny and
I would have been fine with it. But I think it's smart because it
keeps that relationship open to, you know, work together in future challenges,
whereas if you're throw in a blue number, then they're probably not going to
help you in the future. Get Johnny out of there, rote them out.
Yeah, I think they're I think most the people are worried about Green.
Yeah, same, Green seems to be a pretty cohesive team at this
point in time. Yeah, though Blue is the only team, it still
has eight players, so there's that. So they start deliberation, and Josh
immediately starts making the argument, trying to make it into an argument about how
he he wants does he in there? And he's not going to go for
change my vote? I'm not going to change it. Yeah, are you
fucking crazy? He's getting so you want? Are you stupid? And then
you know, Dusty, I will give him this. He does come in
with the pretty good point of saying, you know, this may be the
only time we are in the winning position, and we are only in this
because another team helped us win, so let's use this to our advantage.
Yeah, unfortunately they fuck it all up. But yeah no, because I
mean they're like Chanelle and her confessional seems like she's like, yeah, I'll
fucking go to a stale meat too, I don't care, Like I'm not
afraid of going in. But then when like the chips are down, fucking
everybody starts. Katya's like Chanelle and Josh are only two people on a at
that point in time, a six person team. Well it was Michelle though,
right when they started going around the table and collecting names, it was
Michelle that defaulted first. Tiffany. Tiffany defaulted first. Was it Yeah,
Tiffany vote instead of Desi or Amanda? Yeah, which is sort of like
it's sort of is her saying like, well, I didn't vote along with
them, but you throw your vote away. It was a burn vote that
meant that the other guys won. Yeah. You you may not have voted
for the player that they were going for, but she still voted for the
player that they were going for. Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm by not
standing up for the for your alliance like you lost it for him. Yep.
She's from Big Brother, right, Yeah, she's the Cookout season.
She was on the Cookout, which is a big alliance. She should have
known how to play back? Is she is? She stupid? Though,
we Zach, you watched that season. She actually came up. She came
up with a genius strategy of how to get everybody else eliminated except for the
group. Ye credit for being the brain child behind the whole cookout and kind
of like strategic mastermind of that season. So what went wrong here? Why
did she fuck this up? Or did she or did she want this?
She was the last person to vote and the pressure was on her, and
she didn't want to be put into elimination. She wasn't willing to. I
mean, I she's smart in the fact that she I agree with her.
I wouldn't want to throw myself into elimination just because they want to vote for
someone else. But at the same time, like you've just fucked up your
alliance. Yeah, so she just was She just didn't want to commit to
the uncertainty of a stalemate. Yeah. Yeah. And Ryan makes a good
point that she was friends with Johnny. She did the same thing when she
was on one of the losing teams and everyone's up they were going to vote
for john A And she didn't vote for Johnny. She voted for someone entirely
different. Burn voted on that one too. Yeah, well that's stupid.
I don't like Burn votes on the challenge. And it seems like she's playing
the wrong cards. But maybe if she's smart, maybe she's got another plan
that we don't We don't know yet, Ryan says she's been saying she was
playing the rookies and really preferred the vats. Yeah, well she definitely doesn't
look like she's playing the rookie. She looks like her emotions are out on
full blasts. So yeah, she fucked she fucked it up. And of
course Josh's like, dre see, we got it, we got what I
wanted, So that's settled. And then they moved on and voted on the
Man and this one Michelle completely fucked up. Yeah, they could at least
gotten half of what they wanted and Michelle for no reason, what's the why?
Yeah, i'dly could have vote his for West. No one would have
thought any different, and she would have been totally fine. And since she
goes for Lewis as well. I loved so one thing. I really like
burn votes when they end up in things like the season I don't like that
they did this to Leroy, but the season that Leroy got the burn vote
on him, Yeah, that I found fucking hilarious. Yes I do too
when it when it really backfires on him. I love that, but hate
it most of the time. But in this season, in this episode,
like during the scene, I loved when they would pan the Corey and Corey's
just sitting in the background like what happening right now? Right, shaking his
head like and fucking idiot. Josh got his way. He got exactly what
he wanted, and he's dancing around like see, I'm the fuck a good
player. It's like, no, you're fucking more on somehow. The other
people on your team are just idiots enough not to stay with the votes.
How they said they will be given credit for one episode. Man, he'd
fucking he pulled it together, he got what he wanted because everybody else is
being stupid. I'm with Ryan here, you know, you gotta give Josh
credit this one time. And also, like you know, two episodes ago,
West basically tried to do the same thing and failed. So Josh did
West better than What's could do West. I'm given Josh kredit. Man.
I honestly think that Josh just got this because he was so fucking annoying.
He did whatever it takes. Yeah, you're right, Carlt, but like
he worked out for him him. Uh no, And he should not have
gotten the men's vote. That was Michelle being I don't understand what the fuck
she did there, Like okay, cool, So Lewis also voted for you
but you just promised all of your alliance that you're going to vote for West,
Like, what are you doing? Yeah, I think in her mind
it's like, well, we already lost this vote, so we'll just really
lose this vote. I think that's kind of what she thought. Not defending
her, but I think that I can't think of the word right now.
But Josh basically did what they do in Congress, where you just start talking
long enough to people filibuster. Yes, he filibuster them into eliminate the filibusters.
Fucking idiot, a stupid face. And his hair of this season,
Oh my god, he's there of this episode. I mean, guys,
let's not have to salt people for their hair cuts. No, I'm all
for wearing your natural hair, but good lord, like, at least dude
something like it. Just he looked crazy. Ye, I'm totally kidding.
I've been making fun of Dusty's hair this whole evisit. Yeah, So Tim,
I need your stands on this. Ryan says that Josh's shoulders looked pretty
good near Dusty level. I agree, Hey, Josh is looking fit this
season. He's not athletic and he's not good at this game. But he's
looking better, he's looking like he's worked out. Get him into an elimination.
So he's fucking losing. I hate defending Josh. Why are you guys
making me defend Josh? Come on, you are making yourself defend Josh.
That is entirely on you. I'm not I just have to be realistic.
The guy looks like he's worked out and he's trained. We were just saying
you should train in your off season. The guys did it, and then
he won this political battle. Fuck, I'm defending Josh. This is terrible.
You're off the show too. Please, it's time. It's time.
I've become who I hate the most. All right? Uh, well,
we officially have the nominees Louis and Lewis and Dassi. Then it cuts over
to the Green team finding out that Chris was the mastermind behind Blue throwing it
for Red, and they are, Oh, it's fucking Johnny. Oh,
it's Christ's idea totally. I didn't want to do it. I told him
no, but I was outvoted. Yep. They also started to sit there
and to with Wes in the room, they talked about, okay, well
who we're going for and they all agree on Cassidy. Well, meanwhile,
in the background, Desi has been going around around everybody else in the house.
It's going to be voting, saying that she wants Amanda even though it
Amanda is on her own team. But don't I did too. I love
Desi. I think Desi's just great. It's a Desi's amazing, She's great,
just playing a great game. Yep, playing smart all right, Uh,
nominations, Well, the last one's the Liberation. This one's nominations.
It's confusing this season thing different things. It's it's an ausing, it's all
one big nomination sesshion. But it's all it's a little ridiculous. So in
this the only thing that I really found that was of note that annoyed me
was uh, the Alyssa that also was talking about egos. She sits there
goes you know, I know we're on teams, but my team is actually
Big Brother, and it just made me think, like, girl, like,
you're you're you're not on Big Brother anymore and you're playing a different Do
you know you're playing a different game? Right? Both the listens to me
are just filler because we heard Josh, we heard Josh say it, what
do you guys playing Survivor? Is so he plays Survivor, you guys play
Survivor. Yeah, it's just I get that they have the alliances and all
that. It just it feels weird to me that they all seem to be
really just playing their original games and not this one. But whatever. I
wonder if CBS kind of behind the scenes told them to stick to your original
show to kind of make it, because I say, your original show as
often as possible so that we get people to watch those ones too, right,
I kind of wonder if there's some behind the scenes Shenanigan's there with us,
possibly, Yeah, because we had a Big Brother, Like, you
know, Fessie and Josha played way more Challenge than Big Brother, So why
are they aligning with Big Brother. Somebody had to town to do that.
Well, Josh does make the Freddy and slip at the very like in the
morning that morning when he starts his whole tirade where he sits there and says,
you know, the last time I was on Big Brother, Josh,
you mean the last time you were on the Challenge? Yeah? Whatever,
All right, so we are now in the arena and we're going through the
votes that have been put in. For the men, we have three for
Thayler. Were not actually at the elimination yet, we're almost there. You
said we were in the arena. Arena's elimination coming. The name hasn't been
hasn't been told to us yet, you know, Carol, and you're still
new. Give it to Wolfe. In my notes it says elimination. I
was going to prompt you, all right. So we have three for Tyler,
one for Sebastian, two for West, two for Monty, one for
Bananas, and six for Chris. Uh. And then for the women,
we have four for michaela too for Cassidy, and nine for Amanda for a
man, uh. I felt so bad for her in this moment, but
she took it like a chant. What did you think, Allison? Were
you excited to see Amanda get nine? I was. I was ready for
her to go. Really she's annoying. Yes, I mean she's fun to
watch on TV because she's a fucking nutbag. Yeah, she's wonderful. I
would never want to talk to her in real life, but she's she's great
to watch on TV. Yep and hot yep. All right. Oh,
also West is completely blindsided that Amanda has so many votes because he thought that
everybody's gonna be going for Cassidy. And again this falls into that same category
of his quote earlier and all that. Like it just this is not the
game that I mean. This is still the challenge, but it's not the
challenge that you've been on before. West, like this is these rookies are
not real rookies. Yeah, has to be really feeling like a fish out
of water here. He keeps he has no idea what's going on. He's
usually got like a pulse of the game and he knows things, and he's
blind and doesn't know what's happening. He's got to feel real uncomfortable. It's
I love it, though. I just love somebody who thinks they know everything,
they know how to maneuver everything, they're in and out whatever, and
suddenly he's just like, what the fuck is happening? It's great, And
I know Zach Zach had to love it. I mean, yes, but
I don't know Hey West as much now that he's Team Bananas. Of course
you don't. No, It's just I agree. It's it's fun to watch
him kind of just flounder out there. What's what's going on? I don't
understand this. Yeah, it's great. I like all these Vets doing it,
because yeah, the Vets run the show on the MTV show, and
this time they're they're against rookies who know what they're doing, and so yeah,
they're losing. They're currently losing. It's great. Ye. All right
now we are officially in the elimination. All right, So this elimination is
called Evil Eye. Oh yeah, it is basically just a new version of
pole wrestle. Yeah, for the old school challenge fans out there. Well,
remember the Battle of the Ex they had a similar one. It was
just an X instead of a single pole that they called We have all all
kinds of things, Like they've had one that was like a pole that had
a whole bunch of bins in it. We've had a few different circles,
yeah, the ring, Yeah, the ring with Joss and fucking there.
Yep. Yeah, I feel like there have been a few different types of
rings too, Like wasn't there one where it was like two rings a figure
eight and yeah, there have been there have been any different things, yep,
Yeah, this is yeah. I said it's a headbanger. There was
a live discord chat that only me and Wolfie were participating in. But it
was great. Yeah, the moment you see that sand pit and the big
old ring around it, it's going to be a headbanger love it. Yeah,
you know, I love them sometimes, and I really liked it because
it's just literally one round, which I was really happy about that. I
it's so annoying when they do two or three or ten no one. I
was surprised I didn't catch it that it was only one. I was disappointed.
I like when it's like a best of three. I kind of do
too, Zach. Yeah, let them, let them learn a lesson.
I like get it. Like I like them when they're standing up and they're
all sort of already beat to ship and they got to do it again.
I think that's great. No, me and Carlin, we're right, Zach.
We'll start our own chew Alison break the tie. This is the first
one she's seen any opinion on that audio podcast. You gotta use your words.
Thank you, pass That's why did you loop me in here, Zach.
I want to go to bed so really quickly. For those of you
who don't know what Paul Wrestle are is, you have two players in the
sand, they're both holding onto the ring, and it's whoever let's go of
the ring? And in this game, it's whoever let's go of the ring,
and the person who's holding it and gets out of the ring in the
sand first wins. Yeah, yeah, a little different so that I or
whatever could be just loose on the ground for a while, all right,
if you're wrestling. Yeah, they were multiple times where people had one hand
off and they would like come around and grab another, which that's definitely not
in the typical pol wrestle. Yeah, pol wrestle. You lose a hand,
you're done. Yep. I. One of my notes in here is
just the Dusty is annoying, and I don't remember what he said, but
something about he was annoying. So Chris ultimately ends up winning for the guys.
DESI almost backpacks Amanda at one point in time for the really old school
Challenge fans. Amanda puts on a surprisingly good fight for being such a little
person in comparison. Yeah, but she wasn't gonna win it. No,
No, she wasn't, because her her strategy was just hold on too with
my arms wrapped, my legs around it and just be deadweight and try to
But I mean solid strategy though, if you're yeah, it's great to her
potential credit. We have seen multiple different seasons where people have gotten in big
guys, like mainly big guys have gotten into eliminations who look like they should
just house that an elimination and gas out instantly. And so I mean,
if she could hold onto that thing and wait until does he gases out and
let's go or starts to let go, then she could potentially win, Like
there was a chance. It's better than no strategy. But yeah, she,
I mean, does he dominated this? A man held on longer than
we expected her too, So we're giving her credit, but you know he
was always going to win this. Yeah. Yeah, I really thought this
was gonna be over in like eight seconds when it started. Say, I
thought that Desi was just going to either completely rip it out of her hands
or just like pick her and the ring up and walk them out of the
walls. I was hoping she's gotta pick her up and just sort of starts
slamming Amanda on the ground. Yeah, we've definitely seen that strategy before.
Yeah, So, but ultimately Dessie ends up winning for the women. I
will say the Louie and Chris fight, I thought it was pretty brutal.
Yeah, I really enjoyed it. Yeah, same that one too. I
mean this was all size like you. I mean, both of Chris and
Desi were both quite a bit bigger than the other people that they were balancing.
So it's I mean, this is a size challenge. It is you
know, it is what it is. Yeah, Chris said he played football
in the past. But then I learned that Louie was a firefight. Yeah,
he says that in the show. So then so then I was like,
oh, okay, well that may balance it out well. And so
it did probably make it last a little bit longer. But this is where
that that best of three, I don't know that that would really would have
changed any outcome, because, especially for Amanda and Desi, I don't think
that Amanda would have had the stamina to come back and do that for a
second or third time. Yea, and the guys looked like they were just
absolutely Lewis was still rolling on the ground when they finished. I don't know
that they would have had the stamina to do that a second or a third
time either. So it was I kind of. I think part of the
reason why I like the the one and Done is because you can really put
your all into it rather than having to conserve energy for the next two rounds
or potential two rounds. Right, So, do you guys think we ever
see Lewis again? Possibly? I don't care. Maybe a rival season him
and Dusty, because him and Dusty could be rivals. Now if I ran
into him and at Airport Wendy's, I wouldn't have no idea who he is.
I think of all of the amazing race people that we've had, I
think that he has the most potential to come back. I don't know that
he's the most memorable. One of the parts that was cut out for the
actual taping or taped part of the channel of the episode last week was Wolfy
talking about Jen and her saying hello Earthlings because she was also amazing race,
so she's totally the most memorable. But yeah, I don't know if I'll
seem again. I don't care. I don't care. So onto their decisions,
Chris decides to stay with the Blue team, which I think is a
solid decision. What about you guys, Yeah, that's all he could do.
Yeah, uh, and Desi says that she's gonna take Alyssa S's spot
on the Blue team, and the Red team is not thrilled, and neither
is the Green. Also, I didn't realize that Alyssa s was still there,
Like, she's so quiet that both Alyssa's to me, I don't care
about either Alyssa. They're just sort of generic skinny, pretty girls, and
that's they're just sort of there. I don't know, we need one to
listen, just one. Yeah, So Alyssa Es gets sent over to the
Green team, which she's super excited about because she's now on the team with
her big alliances, which, Zach you immediately popped into my head of this
could potentially be a detriment to her game because her alliances are on her same
team now and she has no one from other teams to vote in her to
her benefit. No, I agree, I definitely think this could be like
horse case scenario for her, especially Yeah, you know, with Desi leaving,
I mean, arguably that might be the weakest team now, I mean
it's gonna be between them and rad Yeah. And then the episode cuts out
with West saying that it's time for him to take control of his team.
Yeah, I heard that one before, just like Tori was gonna cause chaos
in the house and the Shell was gonna throw everything in a chaos. The
Bets have no power in this game. It's wonderful. I like hearing we
say that ship, but it's never gonna happen. Yeah. I'm really enjoying
this season because the Bets have no real power, because this is this is
the first time that we've really seen them not being able to run the game.
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stuff? Zach uh not? Then aware of I might have been distracted this
weekend. Outlooked I got something. I got something. People are talking about
Polly online obviously because you know, his big announcement everything somebody you know,
and some people are defending him that, like it's such a brave thing that
he did and whatever. But then a Whitney, somebody named Whitney came across
that h posted and said, Polly is doing like this only fans management shit
where he's trying to manage the reality like the reality stars only fans accounts.
But if you don't sign up with him, then he gets like all these
trolls to like steal your photos post them elsewhere. It's sort of like this
fucking uh, I don't know what do we call it. Like he's gonna
he's gonna sink you if you don't sign up for his management team. He's
gonna like he's sabotage you. Yes, it's uh so I feel like this
falls into the world of revenge porn. It just seems like it doesn't.
Yeah, it doesn't seem great. So casa did yell? Sy Devin said
on Twitter said, I remember he said something on Twitter, but I don't
remember what it was. Said something about how awful Polly is. Yeah,
I think so. Yeah, Yeah, I feel like we don't have to
defend him just because he is bisexual or pansexual whatever. He can still be
a douche bag. That's okay. It's like, good for you. I'm
happy for you living your authentic self. Unfortunately your authentic self is also right,
Yeah, both can be true. Yeah, all right, Well,
I guess that's it for this episode. This has been Brian the Big Uncle,
Sweet Zachy Banana's aka Dusty, Oh, Alison Carlin the other CT and
as I don't know, Josh said something like good tip to him. He
scattered blah blah blah bullshit,