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website as well. Yesterday we talked about TV. I love TV. I
was pretty shameless about that. Yesterday, as we did some sort of lighter
Fourth of July fair as people are out of the office, relaxing a little
bit and enjoying summer, we thought it might make sense to dive back into
culture and in the most Federalist way possible, hopefully, And so today we're
gonna talk about movies. I'm introducing a conversation I had once again with my
colleague Sam Mangold Lennett, staff editor at The Federalist, who again pop culture
junkie. He's got super interesting takes on this stuff. So I just wanted
to sit Sam down, pick his brain about some some movies that have come
out in the last year or so, and go from there. We do
talk a little bit about music at the end, and I give a little
a little observation about country music that I've Yeah, I think holds up again
always radio at the Federalist dot com. If you disagree, tell me why
and tell me what I'm getting wrong. But it's it's a short part of
the conversation, an interesting one that maybe we could even expand on at some
point. So with that said, hope everybody is having a wonderful Fourth of
July. Hope everybody's listening to some country music, having some great barbecue,
and just relaxing with friends and family and enjoying the freedoms that we have here
in the United States of America. So God Bus the USA, enjoy the
podcast. Because I've been just plowing through below deck for months now. I
have totally and vanderpunk roles. I have totally neglected new movies, so I'm
a little bit behind the curb on those. What have you watched recently that's
been anything that's been like a standout? So i missed Fast and Furious X
in theaters, which I'm very sad about. That's too bad. That is
very bad. That's one of my favorite franchises of all time. You're going
to have to get a giant TV to watch it sound system otherwise that you've
earned it right by watching one through nine. I've put in the work.
I think I think it's time. It'd be wrong, not too exactly.
I have to give it as to justice. Yeah, it just I mean
if you watched, if you go back and watch any of them on like
HBO or whatever streaming service, it's not the same thing. I guess it's
or I think some of them are on Amazon also, but you miss like
a solid like seventy percent of seeing why you should see Fast and Furious,
which is it's like the deafening sound effects and the mind numbing like the size
of the special effects. So I'm kind of bummed about that. I have
yet to see Spider Verse, which I've heard is fantastic. I mean everyone's
raving about it. I just saw The Flash, which is a stinker.
It is, really So I think we ran a positive review of The Flash.
Yeah, I mean that's fine, Like, that's fine. I'm just
curious, So your I didn't see it. I read that review. I'm
curious what your take is on it. So I think the review was accurate
in the sense that in two ways, there's if you're a DC super fan
DC comics like super Fan. You're gonna love all the little things that are
in there for you specifically. And I think the pro family messaging and like
that don't play God messaging is huge, and I think that's one of the
areas where like superhero movies kind of shine. It's whereas Westerns were passing on
messages messages of traditional morality, superhero movies kind of adopted that mantle. Granted
they're not doing it nearly as effectively, and a lot of ways are being
co opted into leftist ideology, etc. But I think it's where the Flash
really does shine. It's just everything else about the movie is garbage, you
know. It's DC has all these issues with I mean every both Marble NDC
have these issues nowadays. And I think the main is superhero fatigue, where
there's just so much of this content people don't care anymore like it used to
be special. I remember, like when Infinity War came out, that was
a huge thing, and granted this was pret COVID, so everyone still wanted
to see every movie because it was pre COVID. And I don't think the
theaters have recovered since COVID, and I don't think they're going to for many
many years, or if they do at all. But right outside of like
real big movies, which is what you're talking about, like superhero stuff.
Yeah, well, like they're not even like big events anymore. For like
Top Gun Maverick, everyone flooded to the theaters because I was Top Gun Maverick,
right, But the most crowded I saw a theater since Top Gun was
when I saw Casablanca, and it was like an anniversary screening, And that
was for an almost one hundred year old movie, whereas all these other blockbusters
so to speak, came out and there was still empty theaters. Right.
Um, you know, Marvel drops a movie, no one cares anymore.
Um, and that's fine. I'm happy to see if the studios fail because
they're evil. Um, but you know the flash, it's fine if you
just want a movie to watch popcorn and watch pretty images the stories. The
actor is a dangerous, mentally ill Helen. So yeah, asra Miller's who
you're referencing there. Um. Actually, while you were you were mentioning that
it reminded me. I don't know what you said that reminded me of this,
But one thing we should have mentioned in the TV segment, especially on
irony is filamin a kunk umkunk what's it called? Kunk? On Earth on
Netflix? If you haven't watched it, you would really like it. But
it's satirizing the sort of like Planet Earth type. It's a big concept nature
or history like an actual planet itself. No, no, no, although
that's surely around the corner, or the sort of like BBC civilization. That's
basically what it's satirizing. It is really funny, but in a way that's
just totally ironic and bizarre. Um and and almost like Colbert asked, maybe
Colbert was ahead of his time in terms of irony poisoning. All. Okay,
let's put that aside. I'm glad you covered the superhero stuff because I
know I did see John wickfour. I did see it in theaters. Banger
too long? I've heard that complaint. Did you see it in theaters?
Yeah? Multiple times? How many times? Like five? Entirely too much
movie? Where's it? John wickfour? What am I going to do?
Not see it in theaters? It was fantastic, It was good. I
thought it was good, but I just thought it was like an hour too
long. Really, Okay, it's three hours long. Yeah. I mean
that's one of my biggest problems in movies in general. I don't need attention
to spend for it, which is why I gravitates words TV and always have.
But like, when you're pushing three hours in a movie that's not like
a battle epic, that's not like a historical epic, you are you don't
need it. It is simply unnecessary at that point. Um. Well.
Similarly with like the Dungeons and Dragons movie, like that was way too long,
Okay, it was like at least an hour too long, I think.
Okay, but John Wick, I think there was enough plot to keep
it going. There was so much plot, right, It was great.
It was fantastic. Every time I thought we were near the end of the
movie, there's a new chapter, there's a new brand from John Wick's life
that we didn't know existed before. I just it was really something. It
was phenomenal. It was really something. And apparently they're turning it into like
a whole cinematic universe thing, which I am unhappy about. Huh. I
think you mentioned that you you take issue with that because you're exhausted by the
cinematic universe trope. In general, it's it's like a corporation's just using every
part of the ip buffalo. Basically essentially, it's that and it's bad for
storytelling. Like the whole point of the stories that it ends right right,
Otherwise it doesn't have an impact. If a story keeps you going and going
and going, then there's no finality. There's no point to the story.
There's no moral, there's no lesson to be learned, there's no end of
the hero's journey. The whole point is the hero gets to return home at
the end of the journey that he's grown. It's like if John Wick keeps
going on adventures after he, you know, ends his last adventure, what's
the point. Is he ever going to find himself? Is he ever going
to find peace? No? No, he won't because of events in the
fourth movie that I will not spoil. But so that's yes. Um,
you want to eat the steak of the pine, not the eyeball, and
well I've heard eyeballs are really good for you. Yeah, the good source
of protein. Um yeah, every other everything I came up with in my
head for that metaphor, I was like, actually, that is a good
source of protein. Deliver the steak, not the tone nails. Yeah,
Oh yes, wow, that is way too bid. Nobody for that.
Actually, I kind of didn't ask for it. Did you see Fools Paradise
the Charlie Day movie. It was one of those movies that like it just
an incredibly good trailer, looked really funny from the trailer, but has gotten
very bad release. I haven't watched yet, actually, because I've been persuaded
by the rotten Tomato audience score that it wouldn't be it wouldn't be good.
Maybe it is, but I haven't watched it. Um. Did you watch
Let's see? What's another really good one? Oh? Have you seen Renfield
yet? The new Nicholas Cage vampire thing? I have not. Um,
But so this is this was my like moral boycott of Hollywood. I didn't
like how they killed a priest in the trailer, so I was like,
Okay, I'm not gonna go see that. Really, I took a stand
with my wallet. I saw John Wick for a fifth time, Bold move.
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do to sleep at night.
Paint? Did you watch Paint? The Bob Ross movie with Owen Wilson.
I have not but I heard it was extremely bad. I like that this
is taking This is turning into a segment where we just list off movies that
neither of us has seen and talked through the reviews. So it is supposed
to be really bad and it was a highly anticipated film. Again and another
doesn't make any sense. It's just dumb. Well, the pot looks pretty
dumb, although there are movies with dumb pots that have turned out to be
quite all right. But like Owen Wilson is, Bob Ross is objectively,
on paper, should be an interesting movie. But if you if you can't
make that work, it might actually say something about the industry, right,
I mean, really, Hollywood is dying. So I really expected to hate
Cocaine Bear, and I've heard a lot of people didn't, especially people like
younger people I've talked to really did not enjoy Cocaine Bear. I thought it
was perfectly acceptable. It was definitely more like a movie you'd see in Netflix
and you'd see in theaters. I saw in theaters much like I saw the
Last Jackass in theaters. I think I saw the same theater and it was
great. They did a good job in that Last Jackass movie. Is just
as funny as any of the others. I'm surprised they still have owens to
break, but yeah, that part is amazing. What did you like about
Cocaine Bear? I thought it was just a good movie. It was just
it's just like and it's the same thing when it was just a yeah exactly.
It wasn't trying to be anything different, and it was just like,
what's the what was the second glass Onion? The second um? The second
edition of that franchise? Again, like there were all kinds of political critiques
of it. We ran some of them and it was a little bit long,
but like, I actually think, um, what's the what was the
first edition of the movie? Knives Out? I think that is like it's
not a perfect movie, but it's exactly what a movie should be. And
in terms of recent Hollywood outings, that is like as close to the template
of what Hollywood should be doing as anything else possibly could be. I know
that they snuck some woke messaging into it, but it was so minor.
I wasn't bothered by it. It just as a movie that keeps your attension
every step of the way. It looks beautiful, it transports you into an
interesting plot and acting is good. It doesn't take you out of the action.
It's an interesting it's it's interesting from start to finish. It keeps you
on the edge of your seat and intrigued and you want to know what happens.
And it's entertaining from start to finish. And that's all the movie needs
to be. Really really good movies, do you know pack emotional residents.
Really really good movies can can say interesting things about our politics and our humanity.
But not every movie is going to be Let's say we were just talking
about Casa Blanca. Not everybody is gonna be Casa Blanca, and some about
Cocaine Bear. Cocaine Bear was on par with Casa Blanca. Cocaine Bear is
the Casa Blanca of our age, and it's not getting credit. I agree,
I agree. Our intern is laughing. We caught them, Sam too,
Sam angel Letta is same one. But don't forget it. I can
see Sam Too laughing in the corner. It's not because we're funny. It
is because we're We haven't seen any of these films, so I've been We're
watching a lot of john Ford movies. Okay, so I just rewatched the
Searchers, which is one of my all time favorites. If anybody listening to
this has not seen it for whatever reason, how they encourage going back to
watch it? Missus John Wayne every day, Miss John Wayne every day.
Um. I went to Sedona earlier this year and when I was in sedonas
with my mom, we watched an old Elvis movie that was from Rondon,
Sodona. While we were there, man did not age, well, it's
a Western, right, so and a bunch of westerns were Sodonas. We
wanted to watch one of them. Oh my gosh, is on another level.
Truly on another level. Um, what have I missed so far?
By the way, the when I asked about Rentfeld, that Rentfield, that
reminds me. I'm really looking forward to what we do in the Shadows coming
back there. That's that's a TV show if I'm just blinking on the premise.
So it's it's a vampire thing. It's based on the it was like
twenty fourteen documentary. Um, mocumentary. It's very much of its time,
like doing what The Office did. Um, but with like Real World or
like Big Brother with vampires. It's like a mocumentary. Yeah, and it
really visualized this. I'm picturing people sleeping upside down, so well, that's
exactly what great work um and it is um tka ti um from did you
see Um? I'm sure u Jojo Rabbit leven thunder Jojo Rabbit, yea Jojo
Rabbit I thought was good. Um, I don't know it's I don't think
it deserved the I think Tea T's incredibly overrated. I think he's one of
these people who we call a genius just because he made a few things that
were weird that happened to be good. Yeah, he's like an is like
a less bad m Knight Shaanalan les bad Night Shaalan. That sounds great.
Ye're telling me this man is very talented. Uh no. I Actually what
we do in the Shadows is like the only parallel really right now is it's
always sunny or like a workaholics, and it does not ever try to pack
an emotional punch. It is ridiculous and absurd, and it never tries to
balance the absurdity or the satire with any like statement on anything whatsoever. Is
just funny from start to finish, and it is absolutely funny, Like you,
it is genuinely a comedy, pure a pure comedy, and that is
wonderful, So you should. I think you actually really like it. The
other one that I really liked that got bad reviews was Air. This strikes
me as that surprises me. I wanted to see that one a lot,
but I missed it in theaters. Yeah, I did not want to see
it. Oh No, I'm just like not a huge fan of I don't
I don't have the attention span for serious movies like that. And it didn't
seem I know it had some and it is very funny, and I knew
that it tried to be funny at different parts, But when I actually sat
through it and watched it, I was like, this is exactly the type
of movie that critics are going to want to perform their superiority too. But
actually, like your average America, like, this movie is awesome. It
reminds me of Green Book, which is genuinely a beautiful movie. And we
had Washington Post film critic and Hornaday on the show at the time on Federal
Stradio Hour then to talk about how like this movie was being overlooked by critics
as there are the cultural reasons for that and people can go back and listen
to that episode. But I think the same thing is true of Air,
Like is it Casa Blanca? No, But it's actually like very it's emotional,
it's an amazing American story. It's simple, and there are a couple
of moments that I think are overly hokey, like some of the writing is
a little heavy handed, but overall it keeps you. It keeps you intrigued
and entertained, and acting is good. Um, it's fun. Well it's
been affleck I'm that damon. So it can't be over heavy handed at some
point and that has to be the pastico. Yeah, overboard at some point.
So yeah, right, like at some point, you know, it's
just gonna be like guys, like put down the joint. This is not
as it is, Yeah, not as good as you think it is.
Um, what did I miss? I really liked since we talked about Renfield,
I really liked in recent years, I loved Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent.
Yeah, yeah, I thought that was very under It was both I
thought, like the nerds on a read it overhyped it, but normal people
didn't appreciate it for what it was. Yeah. I agree, Yeah,
it's and I think Air was sort of like that, and it presented itself
as a movie that was going to be like this is Oscar bait, right,
and then people came into and critics came into it, like this movie
is trying to be um truly great and it's just like fine, which is
why they needed to perform there. They need to be like performatively condescending and
above Air, but it's actually just great. There was big George Foreman,
which I don't think anybody really saw. I started it, really, I
liked it, loved it. Yeah, Okay, I don't. I mean
it wasn't. I just like George Foreman as a guy, so I was
probably biased about it. But did you see Cree three? You really are
into the franchises. I'm not in the franchises. I'm into I'm into Keno
And I appreciate the medium, okay, but probably too online. I just
I just bumped the microphone. Just. I never will take the blame for
that because it's usually Chris Bedford, but I did, in fact, just
the microphone. It was the spirit of Chris Bedford. He was like,
I really liked to create three, That's what he was saying. Yeah,
he gets it. He sent us a message through that did you see the
Whale? Yes, dudes rock? Okay, dudes rock? Great movie.
Who liked the Whale? He deserved? Going else to say, do it,
dudes rock? He deserved that Oscar, every every bit of that body
suit He earned it. That was a controversial Oscar because he wore a fat
suit or because they didn't like the performance. I thought it was very well
earned. I mean, it's it seemed I didn't actually watch that one.
It seemed well earned to me, but again I didn't see him. I
will say everything everywhere, all at once is incredibly overrated and I'm tired of
the hype. Did you see Babbylon? Yes, that's um. I appreciate
what he's doing with the film commentary that he's doing in his films. Damien,
Chizzelle wherever you pronounce it. Um. I liked Lalla better personally,
I really, Oh my god, why I don't have time? You do?
You hate fun, fun and whimsy. I'm not going to spoil that
movie, but fun and whimsy are not words that I would use for women.
And by the way, our other intern was with me on that maze.
It was with me on that and I think it's a men versus woman
divide. Yes. I think because because of the ending, I think that
is fundamentally where men and women di verge on Laala and I loved La La
Land and until I finished the movie, that's fair fair enough. I mean,
I thought the ending worked. But okay, I'm sure you did think
the end You're a man. Another one I wanted to ask you about it
was don't don't worry, Darling. Did you wash? Yeah? Um?
I despised it at first because of like the whole Jordan Peterson hoop law Mum,
I thought I thought the aesthetics rocked, like I love the bid century
modern stuff. Um, I don't know. I kind of want to rewatch
it now that I'm less, you know under the collar about the George Peterson
stuff. It's like you're you're gonna go back and watch the Renfield once you
get over what happened, once it become a heretic. Um, I don't
know, what do you think about don't read Darling? Um, I didn't
watch it because I heard it was bad, and I don't if if I
hear that a movie is is bad and I see it in the audience score
as well as in the critic score. I cannot bring myself to do it
unless I'm forced to by someone else who wants to watch it, because I
don't have the attention span for something that if I'm not like expecting it to
be good, I just can't. I can't do it. That's fair.
It's a it's a flaw. I don't pretend that it's a virtue. It's
it's not respect. You're saving like thirty dollars by not going to the movies,
so or I'm saving time that could be watching a reality TV a better
investment. What about Amsterdam? Um? Which one was that? That was
the whole No, I didn't with Christian Bale. Yes, so I wanted
to, but it was out of theaters like almost immediately. So beautiful movie
board me to tears. It's really okay. Yeah, I feel like that's
another thing that is the tail of Hollywood and last like even twenty years.
What about the menu? Oh my god? Um yeah, I'm trying to
think how to phrase this. Um, it's a movie. You go ahead,
you can do it. I'm trying. I'm trying not to be mean
here, you go ahead. I gotta figure out how to phrase this,
So the menu I enjoyed. I do think that if you are going to
do it reminds me in some ways of Midsomer. If you are going to
do absurdity, you cannot split it. It's actually a lot like what is
the one on the What's the one on the boat that came out with Woody
Harrelson. Um, you know what I'm talking about. It was on a
it was on a yacht. It was actually like below deck. But um,
it was like below deck, but on a different type of in a
different type of genre. Was it the actual TV and reality TV? This
is a movie? This is Yeah, it came out like, oh that's
another TV show, White House Plumbers. So far, so good. Triangle
of sadness, the menu and triangle of sadness remind me a lot of Midsomer,
And I would say Midsommer's the best of all of those, and that
if you're going to go for satirical absurdity, you actually really have to follow
those rules from start to finish. Otherwise it looks like either a shortcut at
the end to make your movie pack a sort of satirical punch, or it
makes it feel like you're breaking your own rules. That's one of the best.
When I was in college, I took a class with a playwright who
so, like, the most important thing in fiction and literature is that you
follow your own rules. And as I started to think about that, you
really notice it and stuff that you think doesn't work. You get taken out
when something breaks its own rules, and that can be bad acting, that
can be writing that thematic inconsistency exactly like, you can actually do a lot
of really hackneyed stuff and be fine if you're doing it consistently right. And
I think that's the virtue of something like just like It still like Cocaine bear
right Like it works really fine for me because I never got taken out of
the action like it I was. I was with it the whole time because
it followed its own rules the whole time. And I had that problem with
Triangle of Sadness in the menu. Now I've tied you up for the menu.
Tell me what you thought. It's just a movie for dumb people.
Yeah, it's I can't make this nice. It's just such a bad movie.
I agree with the inconsistency parts. It's it got so heavy handed right
in a way that was like this is a coupe, right, Like we
need to start making these points about elites. Yeah, and it's basically an
Eat the Ring movie. It's it's so on the nose. I hate it.
I hate it so much. But it started Okay, let's see whether
or not you agree with this. I thought the first half of it was
subtle and brilliant. Yes, And if you're going to transition into this sort
of colorful absurdity starting subtly is not the move right right, Like you're not
following your own rules. It looks like you couldn't make the point that you
wanted to subtly and with some sense of sophistication and artistry. So you're just
going to slap it in the viewer's face and just punch them with it,
right, And I think there were I think there was an attempt to try
and build up to it, but it just didn't work. It just wasn't.
The transition for the on ramp was missed for whatever reason. It's just
it's not it's inconsistent. It's not good. I thought the acting was pretty
solid, to be fair. Um, but what he's always good, I'm
sorry, what he's always good? He's a good actor. And oh,
I'm sorry, I was just talking about I was talking about Tryang gole sadness,
you're talking about the menu. But they both did from my perspective,
they both did exactly the same thing. They both did that like really subtle,
artistic, smart, clever build up and then waste at all, just
drop a bomb. Yeah right, And like there's a way to do one
or the other, Like the absurdism can be really compelling, or it can
just be a disaster, or it can just be It's like such a shortcut.
It's such an easy way out to make to make a political point or
to make a cultural point. You can budge in people over the haad with
it. But it's much more impressive and I think much more entertaining to do
it subtly. I agree heartily. It's the nuances lost if you just go
ham So, I want to are there any of the movies you wanted to
mention? Um? Nothing comes to mount at the moment. You're kind of
a kind of a movie buff. I am. I just moving down here.
I haven't had time to go to the movies as much as what I'd
like to do. Yeah, there's a there are a couple of really good
theaters down here though, Yeah, like the Landmark Cinemas. Those are all
really good. If you've been the East Street or if you've been to Atlantic
Plumbing, or there's a nice one Empathist so good Alamo Drafthouse. Yeah.
Well, I guess we don't need to dive into the local DC scene here,
but I did want to before before we wrap, I did want to
mention, especially since the fourth July weekend um an observation I've had about country
music recently. There's this new Sam Hunt song that I've heard where I think
I assigned us to a writer actually where he's sort of lamenting not making the
decision to settle down with like a high school or college sweetheart and start having
children, etc. Etcetera. And I started after I heard that, I
was like, this is profoundly sad. And I bet speaking to a lot
of thirty somethings or late twenty something millennials listening to country music, and millennials
really changed country music because Taylor Swift brought in a huge amount of new country
music listeners. As simplistic as that sounds, it really actually is that simple
in many cases. And then you had a lot of artists catering to this
new like suburban although there were some of them in the nineties too, but
like you had a lot of artists catering to this like young female suburban crowd.
And I think that that's deluded the genre in some some bad ways,
that improved the drama in some less obvious ways. But it's just the more
I started listening, the more I realized this is becoming a more pronounced theme
in country music. That's like these lamentations about the simplicity of like community and
family life, and that there has obviously always been that in country music.
There was also a period of time where um, there was like glamorization of
New York or like from some people, not from everyone, but there's like
glamorization of getting out of the small town and making it. And now there's
this h or like New York or going to Nashville to try and make it.
And now I've just noticed the sort of pulling back and saying I wish
I had you know, what would have been described as settling ten years ago,
but like settling in a good way, isn't it. I don't know
you, I don't think you listen to country music, but I do,
um, not not to like break the door drop bombs there, but hot
take. Um. I've noticed a similar trend amongst punk rock actually, where
a lot of these um, a lot of these bands who are huge in
the nineties, who are just you know, being you know, punk bands
in the nineties, touring and doing whatever they did. Blink, who are
you talking about? Blinks one of them? Yeah, a Newfound Gloria was
the one I was thinking of it in particular. Um, they're like where
they're releasing albums that are more reflective about like growing old and how much like
they are going to miss their children when they go off to college, and
you know that is so punk rock exactly. Yeah. I think what's what's
going on? People actually growing up now, like crying, actually being in
their fifties, yeah, yeah, going through like the the the car pool
drop off, crying when you don't have a meeting, Yeah, just crying
silently in the corner of the PTA meeting. It's super hardcore. I think
it's you know, I mean, blinked to be for Blink one eighty two
hasn't never been hardcore, but I think it's I think it's interesting. How
um, you know, the artists are like, it's coot to see them
actually grow with their art as opposed to being you know, emotionally stunted in
this like perpetual adolescence. So it's I enjoy it. Yeah, I see
that, um, And I think what's interesting about that is they're sort of
aging into it. And what I've noticed about country music, although I could
be wrong because Sam Hunt is probably a millennial, but it does seem as
like this is some new artists who are singing about that stuff, like and
I Zack Brian for one, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
that's um, what's the Morgan Wallance song about your hometown more than my hometown?
Yeah? Yeah, that's really interesting. I feel like, and as
long as a couple of years old now, but there's just been the slow
pivot that I think might reflect this yearning among young people were comfort and some
of that's bad, right, Like gen Z is really risk averse, and
so younger country artists coming in and you know, reflecting that to the extent
that it's a bad thing. You know, it's it's been great for like
team pregnancy rates and STD rates, but on the other hand, you have
you know, some people acting out in the euphoria sense, like there's a
subculture in gen Z that has had hyper negative experiences because they're trying to find
something to make them feel alive because their senses are so dulled by the Internet.
And then on the other hand, you just have people who, to
bring this full circle with our TV discussion, are so untethered from truth and
beauty and nature that they know something's missing and they they've already run the experiment
and and realize they're not going to find it living alone in a big city
and and trying to focus everything on their career. And that's why boycott movies
where they kill priests in the trailer ear because you need to find the good
that you're in the beautiful, and you do that by finding God that was
perfect. And it just makes me look so bad for promoting Bravo this entire
episode. I'm sure Bravo has some you know, religious themes here and there.
No no let me stop you right there here, Really they did.
Wait, the Real Housewives stood weigh in on the Cabina hearing, so you'll,
I'm sure there was a ton of nuance and intelligence in that conversation.
You know they do wait into really the Orange County Housewives in particular and the
New Jersey Housewives in particular. You can imagine you so a very evangelical in
Orange County and very Catholic in New Jersey. They do. They have like
waited into those those waters literally and they've been a big blowouts of baptisms and
etcetera, etcetera. But okay, I'll leave that fishing over the baptismal font
Yeah. Yeah, we'll table that for now and just say we hope everyone
has a great Fourth of July weekend. Sam angled Lennon, thank you so
much for joining us. Sam, your staff editor at The Federalist. We're
so happy to have you on board, happy to have you on the podcast.
You've been hosting podcasts every once in a while, doing a great job
because you have a good podcast voice. Thank you, I appreciate it.
Well, everyone, we hope you have a great Fourth of July weekend.
Thank you as always for listening to Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emilijrishinski, culture
editor here at The Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. Until then,
be lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray. All right,