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So 19 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:59.959 with that being said, Computer America dot Com that's real find everything including passion 20 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.799 shows, future show show notes, articles, reviews, videos, stuff like 21 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:07.640 that, and lay Jeman. With that being said, let's go ahead and 22 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.280 just bring Ralph on and we'll talk a little bit and then get into the 23 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:14.800 stories. So, as I said before, a longtime Computer America contributor and 24 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.879 of course our science and Tech Trends correspondent. Now, Ralph, welcome back 25 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:22.199 onto the program. How you doing. I'm doing great, and it's going 26 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:25.599 to be a real fun, mixed bag of stories this week. And again, 27 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:30.159 as you alluded to folks, you're going to leave the show today feeling 28 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:35.439 positive and encouraged about the future of humanity thanks to science and technology. So 29 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.479 that's part of what Ben and I do. We leave you feeling better than 30 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:43.240 you might be feeling at the beginning of the show given this week's news cycle. 31 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:49.280 Absolutely, and so with that, I think, will you kind of 32 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:52.120 jump into story number one. But Ralph, hope that you're doing well and 33 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:55.400 everyone out there is doing well as well, you know, of course, 34 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:59.520 just to give a little shout out to you know, spend some time in 35 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:04.400 Texas recently with family and stuff like that, and good luck to everyone out 36 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.319 there in Texas. I know, tornadoes or nothing new and tornado alley, 37 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:12.240 but still, you know, stuff like that. We haven't really come up 38 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:17.240 with a magical technology solution to tornadoes. But maybe one day, you know, 39 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:22.000 we'll figure out all of our problems with technology. But until then, 40 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.800 we have a few solutions for you in today's stories. So Ralph, I 41 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:30.120 think straight number one is a great way to you know, kind of uplift 42 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:32.879 people, because you're going to get a lot of uplift with what you can 43 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:36.639 make with this kind of thing. There you go, my pun for the 44 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:38.680 morning. There you go. And before we jump in, just to remind 45 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:44.199 everybody every one of the stories we have here. I look for stories in 46 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:49.000 the community of articles about technology and science. We put together show notes. 47 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:53.439 So come out to computer america dot com. Find the Ralph Bond tab at 48 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:55.159 the top of the page. You're going to find the show notes at a 49 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:59.479 link to the video and all that good stuff. And if you want to 50 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:01.919 die burnt to any one of these stories. You can do that so easily 51 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:05.039 through the show notes. So once again Computer America dot com and look for 52 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:09.840 the Ralph Bond tab at the top. So with that said, first story, 53 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:14.080 So every once in a while we do avionics or aviation technology news, 54 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:18.480 and this one really caught my eye. Headline here first fully three D printed 55 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:26.680 jet engine showcases designing for additive manufacturing breakthrough. There's a mouthful there, but 56 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.839 we'll get it done and explain everything. And I saw this article in Forbes, 57 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.639 a story by Carolyn schwar and we've got the link to the show or 58 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:36.519 pardon me, that linked to the article of course. Also I have a 59 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:41.920 link to the company that developed this, their link and their press release if 60 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:45.079 you will on this topic, and if you have the show notes, if 61 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:48.240 you're watching the video here, you can see an image of this amazing three 62 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:53.439 D printed jet engine. It's a mini jet engine cut in have to illustrate 63 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.639 the inside, so it doesn't look like those normally. It's virtually cut in 64 00:04:56.680 --> 00:05:00.199 half so you can see the internal components. So let's jump into this a 65 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:05.120 little bit of background today micro turbine, so we're talking about small scale jet 66 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:13.759 engines. Microturbine engines require complex assembly processes involving many expensive parts, which puts 67 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:19.240 customers directly in the crosshairs these days of supply chain dependencies, limited availability of 68 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:26.720 materials and so forth, and their manufacturers maintaining the right employee expertise to complete 69 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:30.439 the assembly. So this is a non trivial kind of process to make little 70 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:35.279 jet engines. Okay, So to overcome these challenges. Recently, Boston based 71 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:43.879 software company PTC displayed a prototype and I want to stress proof of concept fully 72 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:48.959 three D printed in one piece let that sink in fully three D printed in 73 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:55.519 one piece microturbine jet engine at its company product launch event. It was the 74 00:05:55.519 --> 00:06:00.000 middle part of last month, so not that long ago. The microturbine engine 75 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:04.720 in weighs about eight pounds and is three D printed as a single component all 76 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:11.639 at once, including all rotating and stationary parts. And frankly been I just 77 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.480 can't figure out how they did this, but that's what they say they've done. 78 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:20.040 It's just a blind blowing Yeah. The the the cross sections and the 79 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:25.759 pictures that you know that of course can be in the show's really really emphasized 80 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:29.680 just how like I guess some people think of three D printing. They kind 81 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:30.480 of think of like you know, little figurings, like you know, the 82 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.000 little the little army soldiers, and it kind of goes layer by layer up 83 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:39.319 this as holds as scaffolding and has you know, like you said, rotating 84 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:43.279 parts. I don't know how they do. It's incredible, it is. 85 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.279 It's it's a triumph of three D printing, to say the least. So 86 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:50.680 a little more background. A typical micro turbine jet engine contains upwards to thirty 87 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:57.160 three parts that are normally individually machine and then assembled. Okay, that makes 88 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.000 sense. Although the PTC that again is an aim of the company that did 89 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:05.360 this. That although the PTC prototype three D printed micro turbine engine looks solid 90 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:12.519 from the outside, inside our lattice structures to minimize weight and channels to enable 91 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:17.160 airflow and fuel flow. And again you just showed the cutaway show view rather 92 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:21.879 of this engine. And then here's a quote from Steve dirty And the PTC's 93 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:28.519 chief technology officer. He said, there are there really are no other components 94 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:33.360 required for this engine to function other than the housing. Everything else from the 95 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:39.920 bearings to the seal to the cooling is designed in And again I just I 96 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:43.959 would love to see this thing in person. I would love to see it 97 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:48.360 just believe it's even realized. I would love to see a time lapse, 98 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:54.319 because these things are they're not very fast. But I'm sure that even just 99 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:57.439 three you know, three D printing this thing, even if it takes a 100 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:01.759 week, you know, is still probably better preferable to machining thirty three different 101 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:07.040 parts. Yeah, but here is a real kind of reality check. Lots 102 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:11.839 of excitement here, but this is kind of interesting. PTC says this additively 103 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:18.279 printed engine would would fire up like any other micro turbine engine, although it 104 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.120 hasn't actually been tested in this way now. This is as of a publication 105 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.480 a few weeks ago, so maybe they have by now. But again I 106 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.319 just want to stress this, this is a proof of concept, Okay, 107 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:35.759 So as a non commercial research project, PTC does not plan to sell this 108 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:41.039 particular engine, which is curious also, but there is no shortage of companies 109 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:46.519 looking to make compact turbines more affordable for applications such as lighter, moderate sized 110 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.480 unmanned aerial vehicles. And if you think of what's going on in the war 111 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.120 in Ukraine right now, boy, unmanned aerial vehicles or the name of the 112 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:01.480 game. So a monolithic three D printed a turbine engine offers the potential to 113 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:09.200 dramatically bring down costs, speed up production, and introduce new efficiencies not possible 114 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:13.960 with traditional manufactured jet turbine engines. And here's something I really like. Also 115 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:20.519 with three D printing, also called of course additive manufacturing, there's no tooling 116 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.080 required for molding or machining parts. It eliminates the need to weld or join 117 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.600 parts, which can introduce weakness. And this part band I think is really 118 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:37.879 interesting. And there's also the possibility of on demand manufacturing on site since there's 119 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:43.080 no need to ship any components from elsewhere or have skilled labor on hand to 120 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:48.559 assemble those said components. Think about a war situation, Think about Ukraine. 121 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:54.440 What if they could on site manufacture the little turbine jet motors they need engines 122 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:58.320 rather for their drones or something like that. Right, So this part really 123 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:03.039 blew my mind, the idea of you could do things on demand on site. 124 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.000 And the engine took thirty you talk about time laps. The engine took 125 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:13.559 thirteen hours to print on a metal laser powder bed fusion three D printer that's 126 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.679 a mouthful from a company called EOS and it happens to be the Model three 127 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.759 hundred. I look that up. It's kind of interesting and it uses a 128 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.720 material metal material called inconel, and I hope I'm saying that right. I 129 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:28.279 n conel and I thought I got to know more about that. What's that? 130 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:35.720 So Inconel is an extremely strong and heat resistant metal that's very difficult to 131 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:41.000 machine. So in traditional manufacturing it's often only used for exhaust parts of a 132 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.399 turbine engine. But these guys were using this material to three D print this 133 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:52.000 little engine. Now, other manufacturers, including California based Sierra Turbines, are 134 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:58.360 also in pursuit of the monolithic three D printed economical and efficient micro turbine jet 135 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.759 engine. So I want to qualify the PTC is not the only company on 136 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:07.799 earth thinking this is an interesting possibility. These guys, Sierra Turbines, and 137 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:09.360 there's a link to them as well in the show notes if you want to 138 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:13.600 learn more about them, are also on the same path to achieve this as 139 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.440 well. So an interesting development in avionics or aviation technology. Yeah. I 140 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.639 one of my favorite, um, you know, kind of guests that we 141 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.360 had on the show a while ago that really highlighted the possibilities of this um. 142 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.840 Her name was Bathsheba and she did she did artwork. She did three 143 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:39.559 D mathematically inspired artwork and she uses three D printing to kind of get it 144 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.759 done. And Ralph, she really liked the three D printing because she was 145 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.879 able to print interconnected parts that are found in you know, kind of math 146 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:52.879 concepts and things like that that do not naturally occur. So like you know, 147 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.799 normally if you put them together you have like a weld spot you have 148 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:00.320 to put you know, cut one put them together and linking together. She 149 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:05.279 was able to create her art all interconnected with no cuts, no welding, 150 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.679 no no anything, so gave it a much more finished look. And I 151 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.759 guess this is just taking it to the nth degree because obviously the precision you 152 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:20.320 need for jet engines is much more, but it's still very very h it's 153 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.519 neat we can do because you you you couldn't do this before, and I 154 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:30.120 guess the tolerances for I was just looking at EOS, the people that do 155 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.320 the three D printing. I was looking at their their m their YouTube channel 156 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.320 and which is all the videos. I was kind of poking through and one 157 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.639 of them was for uh like NASA and and uh you know kind of space, 158 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:43.799 you know, kind of stuff where tolerances have to be very very fine. 159 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.039 So uh, it's it you know, great that it's faster, cheaper, 160 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.799 and easier, but it's also great that you know you're going to get 161 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.159 even better precision than what you could get before. So it's just a win 162 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.039 win win all around. So I agree, I agree, And again I 163 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:05.080 want to stress that little factor of making it possible on demand, on site 164 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:11.000 to make a turbine a little turbine jet engine is profound. I mean, 165 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:16.000 this kind of wildly democratizes something that before was very much limited to a few 166 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.399 handful of companies that had that expertise. So something to think about there. 167 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.360 It's an interesting development. Yeah, And obviously the the the equipment itself is 168 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.559 still you know, kind of prohibitive for individuals, but you know, and 169 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.200 again, how how many how many individuals do you want printing jets? But 170 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.360 for you know, for for countries, for you know, even larger companies. 171 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:41.159 Uh yeah, in military having that capability and Ralph, I've just gotta 172 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:46.039 say that being able to share the plans, you know, you you worked 173 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.600 with oDesk for a long time and you know kind of CAD and you know, 174 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.840 computer aided design. Uh. Once someone put in the work and you 175 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.440 know, artists of all kinds deserve you know, kind of royalties and all 176 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:01.360 that kind of thing. But still you make it one and CAD and then 177 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.799 you uh, you know, you can print it a million times like that. 178 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:07.360 That's a great part. So anyone with a plan, anyone with the 179 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:11.960 machine, can suddenly come out with something very very cool. That that was 180 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:16.399 always the dream of three D printing is that you put the manufacturing in everybody's 181 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.440 hands, not just you know, a few. So yeah, this further 182 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.279 highlights set. So yeah, it's great. So story and again the pictures 183 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.919 are wild. You gotta go check this out. Story number one, story 184 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:33.039 number two, and this hits close uh close to home for you. And 185 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:39.120 uh yeah another story about Intel. And you know, with with as much 186 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.519 as they've been, uh, I've been following them. They were of course 187 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.120 huge supports of the show, uh you know, a couple of years ago 188 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:50.639 and they've since I've been trying to pivot. You know, they were they 189 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.759 were the industry leader and still are the industry leader, you know. By 190 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.440 miles. But they've definitely been working on research and development in the past couple 191 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.679 of years. That's been their thing, you know, putting out cutting edge 192 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:07.519 products. They still do that, but trying to do more research stuff has 193 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.200 really been Intel's focused the past couple of years. And story number two kind 194 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:15.639 of highlights that it's not just about making your computer a little bit faster, 195 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:20.879 it's you know, all parts of the technology sphere have an influence from Intel. 196 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.679 So story yeah, yeah, Story number two is fun and again, 197 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:30.840 as you alluded to, this has a very personal kind of alma maud or 198 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:35.480 heart string connection for me because I spent fourteen years, fourteen wonderful years with 199 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.919 Intel Corporation here in Oregon, and we could ride a bike to the location 200 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:45.120 where this research is going on at the Hillsboro, Oregon But let's get the 201 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:50.279 story. Let's get the headline here. So potential game changer in a Hillsboro, 202 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:56.879 Oregon lab, Intel is immersing data center computers in fluids that dissipate heat 203 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:02.480 more effectively than air cooling. And I got from our local Portland, Oregon 204 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.600 based newspaper, The Oregon in a story by Mike Rogeaway, and we've got 205 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:08.159 the link and images and all that good stuff, and the show notes again 206 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:11.960 come out to Computer America dot com for that. And even before we jump 207 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.360 into this, Ben, I want to stress to the audience what we're not. 208 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.960 We're not talking about the world's first ever attempt to liquid cool computer systems. 209 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.960 No, but it's a little twist on that story that reflects some very 210 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.840 good research that Intel's doing this, trying to make this more practical, safer, 211 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.159 and so on. So I'm kind of given away the punchline, but 212 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:33.440 let's just dive into this. So a little bit of background first though. 213 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:38.039 Data centers, This is an amazing statistic. Data centers in the United States 214 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:45.200 account for approximately two percent of total US electricity consumption. Two percent. Now, 215 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.080 that may not out sound like a lot, but think about it, 216 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.879 that's a lot. Yeah. Well yeah, and while data center cooling can 217 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:59.360 account for up to forty percent of data center energy use overall. So this 218 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:03.559 is kind of the problem, right Pat Kelsinger and everybody at Intel right now 219 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.880 is going, wait a minute, that's not acceptable for a long term future. 220 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:11.880 And by the way, another thing about Hillsboro, Oregon. We are 221 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:17.839 just this incredible complex society of data centers. There's a bunch of data centers 222 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:21.640 right I could walk to them from my house right now. So this is 223 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:26.960 a real important story for me personally and all of my neighbors anyway. Side 224 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:33.000 note how our data centers typically kept cool. Data centers use large amounts of 225 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:37.039 water for their cooling system, which includes cooling towers, chillers, pumps, 226 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:41.079 piping, heat exchange and condensers, and computer room air conditioner units of course, 227 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:45.359 and there's a source there in the data show notes to give you all 228 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.319 the background if you want to dive deeper. In fact, the cooling systems 229 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.839 in a data center can use as much electricity as the computers themselves, so 230 00:17:52.880 --> 00:18:00.359 it's a huge, huge energy drain. Brow to find a new way to 231 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:04.160 dramatically cut the cost of cooling data centers, Intel is experimenting. So this 232 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:11.359 is research with submerging data center computers in a bath of synthetic oil that doesn't 233 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:15.440 conduct electricity. Now, time out, This is not the world's first time 234 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.920 liquid has been used for cooling. But this is the twist here, this 235 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:23.039 synthetic oil, and we'll get into this here a little more. By not 236 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:30.240 conducting electricity, the bath of synthetic oil does not cause the computers to shore 237 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.519 it out. They thrive, in fact, because the fluid absorbs the heat 238 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:38.440 from the computers much better than the air does. Now a little historic note. 239 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:42.240 This was really fun because and this is where I add value to these 240 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:48.200 articles. Okay, this is my little contribution because normally I'm just picking up 241 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.680 articles and just reflecting them back. But the historic note here is immersion cooling 242 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:59.119 has been around since the nineteenth century, long before computers, when non conductive 243 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:03.880 fluids were used to cool early electrical transformers and ben you know this, this 244 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:10.200 is something you know supercomputers starting way back in the nineteen sixties used immersion cooling 245 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:12.839 as far back as the nineteen sixties, but the technology remained, of course, 246 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:21.400 highly specialized. Now computers can operate in a variety of non conductive fluids 247 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:27.039 whose properties have various advantages and disadvantages for data center operations. So reality check, 248 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:30.759 as I said before, we're not talking about. What we're not talking 249 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:36.000 about is the world's first implementation of immersion cooling for data centers. Instead, 250 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:40.960 the key to this news story and this work by Intel is the development by 251 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:48.200 Intel of a safer immersion fluid alternative to current solutions in use today, and 252 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.400 let me explain. For example, one category of immersion cooling today employs liquids 253 00:19:52.440 --> 00:20:00.720 that boil from heat, cool on a coil, and then rain back into 254 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:04.440 a tank when they return to a liquid state. And frankly, this is 255 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:08.160 a very efficient way to cool computers. But some of the fluids best suited 256 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:17.359 for this purpose are so called forever chemicals also known as per and polyfluorinated substances 257 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:23.240 the acronym pfas, which unfortunately, ding ding ding, have potentially harmful health 258 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:30.160 effects and comfort and can persist in nature for many years. They don't degrade 259 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:33.359 very quickly at all. Right, So a little side note more about this 260 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.400 because I had to, I had to find out way to know one of 261 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:41.400 this pfas stuff. So per and polychlorinated substances are a group of chemicals used 262 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:48.039 to make fluoropolymer coatings and products that resist heat, oil stains, grease, 263 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:52.480 and water. Fluoropolymer coatings can be used in a variety of products. And 264 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.119 I have a link here to the CDC website describing and explaining what these are 265 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:02.519 all about. So these guys are worked great, They're kind of gives for 266 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:04.920 the environment, it's kind of like the stories they hear of like ancient Rome, 267 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:08.440 and you know nowadays it's like, oh, they had lead water pipes. 268 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:14.519 How innovative. Nowadays you're like, that's really bad. So, you 269 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:17.240 know, just the more that we learned about these chemicals, the better. 270 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:21.240 It's true. That's true. My daughter and son in law's house built in 271 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:25.559 nineteen forty eight in Portland, Oregon. They had to have all the Yeah, 272 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:27.160 you're right, you don't have to go back to ancient room for that. 273 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:30.279 Yeah, no, they had to have them all replaced. Of course. 274 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:34.000 Anyway, so back to the story. In their Hillsboro, Oregon lab, 275 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:40.880 Intel's engineers are using less hazardous liquids. These are petrochemicals made by companies 276 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:45.720 like Exxon and Chevron with properties analogous to motor oil. Now, a little 277 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.480 personal stop time out here for a second. It is very encouraging. It's 278 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:52.200 a step forward. It's good. But unfortunately we're still talking about something derived 279 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:56.400 from fossil fuels. But maybe they can get a plant based version someday, 280 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.559 who knows. We'll see the clear fluid in question. The clear fluid in 281 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:06.079 question looks like water flowing gently through the tank that holds the servers pumped up 282 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:11.720 from underneath and then spilling over the top like an infinity pool for cooling before 283 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:14.839 cycling back through the tank. And then you're going to love this. With 284 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:22.960 filtering, Intel says the chemicals it chooses can cool computers for fifteen years without 285 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:27.519 having to be replaced. Fifteen years. Okay, Well, a little concluding 286 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:33.319 reality check here, as skeptics pardon me, caution that it may be difficult 287 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.359 or prohibitively expensive to overhaul existing data centers to adapt to liquid cooling, but 288 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:44.319 advocates of the shift, including Intel, say a transition is imperative to accommodate 289 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:49.480 data centers growing thirst for power and the growing development of more and more data 290 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:56.599 centers. So interesting development. Yeah, it's interesting. And I was trying 291 00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:00.720 to reinargle quick that Ralph flake. Yeah it's made with petrical um, with 292 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:03.720 petro chemicals. But I'm also curious because you know, just like you said, 293 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:08.240 fifteen years before you have to replace that. And I'm trying to think 294 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:11.319 of like, you know, while we know that drilling and mining and all 295 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.359 that stuff is bad for the environment, don't get me wrong. Uh, 296 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:21.720 you know, most places we recycle like car fluid or car oil. You 297 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:25.799 know, we if we're not directly burning it, there are ways to recycle 298 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:27.599 it, capture it, and you know, make it not you know, 299 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:33.039 as bad for the environment this being fifteen years, maybe even find some way 300 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:37.119 to then you know, kind of process it again and you know, make 301 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:41.680 it good for another fifteen years. Uh. You know it's it's still a 302 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:44.799 step in the right direction, like you said, and it's still not you 303 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:49.119 know, it's not as bad as other as other chemicals. All that aside, 304 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:53.160 I gotta say, this is such a you know, this is going 305 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.839 to help it in a lot more ways. I know, forty percent for 306 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.839 the cooling route, but also think that data centers, like if you've ever 307 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.920 seen engineers who kind of work in them, they have to wear you know, 308 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:06.519 the covers over there, you know, kind of like hair nuts over 309 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:10.079 their heads. I have to wear boot covers over their boots so they don't 310 00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:14.519 track dirt in. They're almost uh they're not as bad as like NASA clean 311 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:18.920 rooms when they're you know, designing stuff for space, but they're they're darn 312 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:22.640 close because you know, normally they use big old vans that will draw air 313 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:26.200 in. And if you can minimize the amount of dirt, you minimize the 314 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.000 amount of cleaning, you minimize the amount of you know, kind of maintenance 315 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:37.160 these things have. So by taking it liquid and you know immersion, you 316 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:41.799 are taking out the need for you know, potential cleaning hazards and smoke and 317 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:45.240 other air debris that may get into these these systems as well, because if 318 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:49.640 it's a completely closed loop, that's just going to be better for everything. 319 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:55.039 So yeah, this is a great win. And Ralph, I gotta say 320 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:59.960 that I don't think data centers are really going out of style anytime soon. 321 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.680 If anything, we're going to be more and more and more of them as 322 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:08.279 more of our lives go online. So you know, heyt of the of 323 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:15.160 the entire electrical cost of these data centers is a huge, huge win for 324 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.960 the environment, no matter which way you cut it. So very uplifting story 325 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.079 and very cool because hey, you know we're alph you know, data centers 326 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.480 today. Maybe one day we'll buy just these these boxes that will have our 327 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.039 computer of submerged and these liquids as well, you know, just so we 328 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:34.359 get it at home. Maybe maybe one d Yeah, So and Ben one 329 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:38.359 last parting comment sort of alluded to it a little bit at the beginning of 330 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:42.880 this story. Folks, if you think Intel is just making the chips that 331 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:47.079 are you know, the brain chip if you will, inside your laptop, 332 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:52.039 think again. Intel has an immense research organization. When I joined Intel in 333 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.480 nineteen ninety three and moved to Hillsboro, Oregon, I was so fortunate. 334 00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:03.279 I was the technology press rep presentative for the Intel Architecture Labs, which is 335 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.240 kind of think of it like the M I T or the Bell Labs of 336 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:15.359 Intel. And there's a litany of amazing technologies that Intel had very important influence 337 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.599 on. Note one comes to mind USB. I mean, there's so many 338 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:23.039 things that we take for granted that you find out, oh Intel was involved 339 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.880 with this, or oh Intel co collaborated this, or Intel invented this technology. 340 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.559 So if you're interested, go out and learn more about the research part 341 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:37.480 of Intel Corporation. It's a fascinating and very important historic story. Yes, 342 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.559 there's lots of just oh, another CPU, but there's also a lot of 343 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.440 oh they created you know, kind of the facial scan that we all enjoy 344 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.119 to unlock our computers, you know, for instance, stuff like that. 345 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:52.839 You know, Intel definitely pioneered a lot of it. So with that being 346 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.200 said, story number two very very cool, and well, very very well. 347 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.720 I guess cool now because it's not as warm. Story number three is 348 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:06.640 going to go over to sculptures, and this is really cool, you know, 349 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:11.000 kind of what was old is new again. And I don't know, 350 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.799 just hey, I guess we're we're mixing AI and I'm assuming three D printing 351 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:19.160 or something of the nature. But anyways, AI sculptures. What what's happening 352 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:23.200 here? Yeah, this is fine. I got this from techexplore dot com. 353 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.599 There was no author associated with the story, but anyway, the headline 354 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:33.960 here is Artificial Intelligence sculpture based on the works of five art masters on display 355 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:37.839 at Stockholm's National Museum. And you know, there's so much controversy about the 356 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:42.319 writers Guild in our country on strike and part of their their grievance or concern 357 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.759 as AI taking the place in writing scripts and so forth. And there's so 358 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.279 much concern in the art world, music world, you name it, right, 359 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:55.359 about AI being this this scary thing that's gonna put people out of work 360 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:59.000 and so forth. So you could add a little controversy to this story. 361 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:00.920 On the other hand, it's so fascinating, I thought, and I wanted 362 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.480 to share it with everybody. And if you have the show notes or you're 363 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:08.240 watching the video, you can see the sculpture we're talking about. So let's 364 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:14.440 get into this story here. Images of the works of five master sculptors, 365 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:21.240 including Michelangelo and Rodan and Takamura, have been used by Swedish machine engineering group 366 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:27.359 a company called Sandvic san d Vik, to train an artificial intelligence system to 367 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:34.640 design a sculpture they named the Impossible sculpture, now on display at Stockholm's National 368 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:40.559 Museum of Science and Technology. Now the Impossible it's called the Impossible statute. 369 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.160 Why the impossible name for this statue relates to the fact that it represents a 370 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:52.720 virtual collaboration or synthesis of the styles of five deceased master sculptors, and we'll 371 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:57.680 get into that a little more in detail here. The stainless steel statue depicts 372 00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:06.759 an a thank you, stumble over that word person with the lower half of 373 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.880 the body covered by a swath of material, holding a bronze globe in one 374 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.119 hand. And I don't I don't know. I think it's more male looking 375 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.279 to me than just kind of equal male female. But yeah, I definitely 376 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.640 wouldn't call it and and let me pull it the picture here right here, 377 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.359 but that definitely looks more male to me. Yeah, and the proportions aren't 378 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:32.640 exactly I would say really human either. Don't get me wrong. I'm going 379 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:34.599 to the gym and I've been working out, but like to have a back 380 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.240 like that, you know, you would take a incredible work out. But 381 00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:45.079 still it's a very very and ralph. I guess like androgens. Um. 382 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.119 I guess they're talking about the face, which you can vaguely see here on 383 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.799 the picture. U. The face is definitely neither really male or female, 384 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.680 and of course the hair kind of goes down to the shoulders. Everything else 385 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.759 though it I mean vaguely human, I guess is why they say, and 386 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.079 yes, yeah it's and Again, if you're just listening to us in a 387 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.519 podcast, come out to computer America america dot com, get the show notes. 388 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:07.519 Then you can see the picture and get the link and see what we're 389 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:12.559 talking about. But anyway, the statue measures one hundred and fifty centimeters that's 390 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:18.079 four feet eleven inches tall and weighs five hundred kilograms, which is one thousand 391 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.960 or one hundred pounds. So this is a beast. And the idea behind 392 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:26.039 this was what if. It's a great what if scenario? What if we 393 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.240 took the styles of five famous sculptors who made their mark on their era. 394 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:37.799 Again we mentioned Michelangelo or Michelangelo if you prefer, August Rodana, Kathy Kolowitz, 395 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:45.000 Kotaro Takamura, and AUGUSTA Savage or Savage a US sculptor. So they 396 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.640 all these folks are long gone, and sometimes not too terribly long gone, 397 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.279 but nonetheless all deceased. And they said, what if we took their styles 398 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:57.720 and synthesize them through artificial intelligence. And one to note the author makes is 399 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:03.599 that the pscular body inspired by Michaelangelo, in the hand holding the globe inspired 400 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:08.319 by Takamura. So again it's again it's the synthesis. So Vix engineers trained 401 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:14.720 the artificial intelligence by feeding it a slew of images of sculptures created by the 402 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:21.359 five artists in question. The software then proposed several images in two D which 403 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:26.599 it believed reflected key aspects from each of the artists in question. As one 404 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.680 of the Sandvic Machine Engineering Group team members noted, in the end, we 405 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.039 had two D images of the sculpture in which we could see the different masters 406 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:40.640 reflected. Then we put these two D images into three D modeling. Well, 407 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:45.000 I went out to their website. Their website deviated from the article in 408 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.640 question and started saying, you know, how has this done? Who let 409 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.519 them tell me more about this Sandvic bunch and than how they did this. 410 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.880 So the statue was fabricated by Sandvic, which is a global high tech engineering 411 00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:02.400 group based in Stockholm, Sweden, and the company's announcement Sandvis world leading metal 412 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.319 cutting tools. This is what they do and expertise are used in a wide 413 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:13.480 range of industries from aerospace to general engineering, automotive and medical industry. The 414 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:20.599 impossible statue was made possible through an innovative use of AI modeling and the latest 415 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:25.200 cutting edge manufacturing solutions. It's crafted from stainless steel, and the complexity and 416 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:32.319 precision required to make the statue a reality put Sandvis advanced digital manufacturing solutions and 417 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.720 cutting tools to the test. This is what they wanted to do. They 418 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:40.599 wanted to show the world this extreme example of what their technology and solutions could 419 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.920 do. And for more on how it's made, I've got a link in 420 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:47.000 the show notes. You can really get into that a combination of different AI 421 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:54.400 programs resulted in a three D mesh model. The mesh consisted of nine million 422 00:32:54.839 --> 00:33:00.599 polygons. Wow. The mesh model was then converted into a solid model that 423 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:07.759 the team's computerated design and computerated manufacturing programs could work with. After this conversion 424 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:15.720 was achieved, the team started programming the CNC machines used using mastercam software Okay 425 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:21.920 winning a time out. CNC stands for computer numerical control, and these machines 426 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.119 play an important role in the manufacturing industry these days, as one of the 427 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:31.039 developers from Sandvik noted, originally we planned to make it in one piece, 428 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:37.559 but we realized the size made it impossible. We had to adapt the parts 429 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:43.480 to fit our CNC machines, so we sectioned the model into seventeen components. 430 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.319 Each of these had to be designed and programmed, along with interfaces between them. 431 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.519 This is a triumph of computerated manufacturing and CNC and all the rest of 432 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:57.240 It's a pretty great story on many levels. But again their motivation was to 433 00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:01.880 show the world how sophisticated their technology is, and it's a great, uh 434 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.480 you know, kind of mix and to throw AI, not just to throw 435 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:10.280 a because they can, but Um, Ralph I had like, this is 436 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.559 a very I guess, kind of like harmless way to use AI. Like 437 00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:17.639 it's no one who's lived, really, you know, a couple of people 438 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:22.280 died, you know, about eighty eighty ninety years ago. But to to 439 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:28.800 resurrect their style using artificial intelligence and then come up with the statue that you 440 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.880 know they're able to to then print, I mean, it's it's very cool. 441 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.000 Um. I don't see sculptures going out of business anytime soon, or 442 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:43.119 artists who you know kind of woudraw these things, but if they needed something 443 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:49.159 to really highlight how good their uh, their tools are, this was a 444 00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.880 very innovative use of AI to you know, highlight that. So I guess 445 00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:57.639 you know, Ralph like when we talk about AI stories, it's like, 446 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.320 well that's kind of sketchy, but not this. This is a good use 447 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:05.840 of AI and definitely a very cool use of their technology. Yeah, and 448 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:07.719 Ben, I'll pick up on that a little bit too. I thought to 449 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:13.039 myself, I guess you could say the ethics of this again, think about 450 00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:19.880 the writers guilds concerned about musicians concerns if they had if they had a sculpture 451 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:23.440 and just said, we're going to look at Michelangelo and we're just gonna, 452 00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:28.039 you know, show the AI a whole bunch of Michelangelo sculptures and make a 453 00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:32.079 fake Michelangelo or a pseudo Michelangelo's statute. That's going to fool everybody. Experts 454 00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:36.280 would look at it and say where did you find this MICHELI. That could 455 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.119 be kind of sketchy on the ethical edge. But again, what they did 456 00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:43.360 here, who I thought was fun and okay, if you want to say 457 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.480 that is saying, let's take five deceased master sculptures. Let's show the AI 458 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:51.920 images of all of their works and see have fun and see what. So 459 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.880 nobody's trying to tell you this is a Michelangelo sculpture or a dance sculpture. 460 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.079 It's more the synthesis. And I think this is where I can be really 461 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.280 cool and fun in the world of the arts and not be a violation of 462 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:12.480 somebody's will, be legitimate works or whatever. But you get pressure. They're 463 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.039 not putting, you know, everything Michelangelo ever created into one machine and saying, 464 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:21.840 you know, make me a new Michelangelo. Now they're they're blending a 465 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.000 little bit of everything, which you know, that's what humans do. That 466 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:29.360 that's what people do, and and that's where the creativity kind of comes from. 467 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:31.599 Again, you know, no one's losing their job over this one. 468 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.480 But the finished statue looks amazing, so definitely go check if that is fun. 469 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.800 Yeah, so story number four, Ralph, let's go ahead and skip 470 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:46.039 on down to, you know, as as is your tradition, a little 471 00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:51.519 bit of medical technology. So starting on before yes, yes, yes, 472 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.400 yes, this is great. Ben. We like to end each Friday segment 473 00:36:54.679 --> 00:37:00.639 technology trends and science trends and so forth with usually not always something from the 474 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.559 world of medicine. And this is so touches all of our lives and this 475 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:08.239 story certainly touched my life. I very recently had an ultrasound for just a 476 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:14.559 routine Thank goodness, it wasn't scary. But the headline here is new wearable 477 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.679 Wait a minute, new wearable ultrasound system can monitor deep tissues, folks, 478 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:24.039 if you need to refresh ultrasound. The classic thing the woman is lying on 479 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:28.239 the table, she's pregnant, and they put the gel on her tummy and 480 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.079 they take the little wand and they go that's ultrasound. Okay, So immediately 481 00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.559 you know we're talking about, but you know that that's a big piece of 482 00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.519 equipment, right and in the doctor's office or in the hospital or in the 483 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:45.320 er. We're talking about a wearable ultrasound system that's been developed that can monitor 484 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.639 deep tissues. Got this from me gadget dot com, which if you're if 485 00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:53.159 you're into medical technology, this is a wonderful website story by Con Hastings and 486 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:58.039 Ben you and I've done stories from him many many times over the last few 487 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.079 years. Again, come out to computermeric dot com. Get the show notes. 488 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:06.760 We've up the link and there's also a link to the research team's paper 489 00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.639 they published, which was titled a fully integrated wearable ultrasound system to monitor deep 490 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:16.039 tissues in moving subjects. Not only the saying wearable, but that moving subjects 491 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:21.039 will get into this. The show notes have some great images. Of course, 492 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.199 they had this groovy male model showing off this thing. I think that 493 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:29.039 would have just used a more regular normal person, but anyway, shows what 494 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.119 this thing is like and shows its flexibility and so forth. Well, let's 495 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:37.559 get a little background. Ultrasound imaging or sonography, uses high frequency sound waves 496 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:43.440 to view inside the body. Because ultrasound images are captured in real time. 497 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:49.480 They can also show movement of the body's internal organs as well as blood flowing 498 00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:54.599 through blood vessels. And I've got the FDA government site source there for that. 499 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:59.039 If you want to learn more. Now here's the story. Researchers at 500 00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:04.800 the University of California, San Diego have created a wearable ultrasound system that can 501 00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:10.760 monitor deep tissues as far as sixteen point five centimeters or six and a half 502 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.440 inches deep in the body wow below the surface of the body, and the 503 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:22.320 device is flexible, allowing good skin contact and comfort for the user during use. 504 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:28.519 And the team employed a machine learning algorithm ding ding ding AI there ego. 505 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:34.760 The team employed a machine learning algorithm to reduce the noise associated with movement. 506 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.800 So it's you know, well, usually when you have an ultrasound like 507 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.639 my recent ultrasound, or every woman listening to this who's been pregnant and had 508 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:45.719 an ultimately you're supposed to lie still while they move the wand over you and 509 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.000 so on and over. The My ultrasound was the same way. So the 510 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:54.519 team employed a machine learning algorithm to reduce the noise associated with movement, helping 511 00:39:54.519 --> 00:40:00.320 to obtain reliable readings while the user goes about their day. So we're talking 512 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:06.360 about an opportunity periodically or continuously monitor while you're wearing this thing and live in 513 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:10.960 your life. Because that's yeah, I'm not the most familiar with with how 514 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.159 exactly it works, but I'm guessing it's kind of like a cat scan something 515 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.840 like that, where it takes like a little slices of an image and then 516 00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:22.679 you put all those images together to get more of a you know, more 517 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:24.760 of a three D picture than you would if you just kind of use that 518 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:31.400 I'm assuming or maybe it's more like a big blank I really don't kind I 519 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:36.519 apologize that. Yeah, if you think about it's the sound bouncing, bouncing, 520 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.559 bouncing constantly off of the of the matter inside your body, right and 521 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:45.840 it's bouncing back, and you're just getting like a movie, a continuous movie. 522 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:50.480 Think of it's sort of kind of like a colonoscopy or endoscopic thing where 523 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.840 you have a camera that goes down the I got you, Okay, but 524 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.559 it's just like a movie. Okay. So that's where the movement would really 525 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.320 hinder it, because you know, it'd be like kind of watching like a 526 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.840 shaky cell phone video. It's not at all. But then of course you 527 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:07.679 see, like the stabilizing cell video, it's much better. Okay, that 528 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.119 makes sense. I think you're kind of sort of analogous to the stabilization technology 529 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:16.079 to develop for video cameras which transform the cinema world and elsewhere. Right. 530 00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:22.639 So this so again, it can work with movement, obtaining reliable readings while 531 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:29.159 the user goes about their normal life. The sensor can evaluate cardiovascular function in 532 00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:34.440 motion. That's the key. This is important as abnormal values of blood pressure 533 00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:40.039 and cardiac output at rest or during exercise are hallmarks of heart failure. So 534 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:45.920 time out. As a cardiac patient myself, I totally get this. It's 535 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:50.559 one thing to lie down still in the doctor's office or the er or the 536 00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:52.960 hospital and have a reading of your heart, blood pressure and so forth. 537 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:58.039 It's another thing to what's what's going on when I'm moving around, when I'm 538 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:04.760 walking or exercising, or just even sitting here talking to you. Medical medical 539 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.840 diagnostics would like to have the total picture, and that's that. This wearable 540 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:14.440 ultrasound device gives them the opportunity to have something they haven't really had before, 541 00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:19.320 wearable ultrasound that can give me a total picture of what's going on with roush's 542 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.519 hard or you're hard, or whatever the case may be. So the deep 543 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:30.199 tissue functionality and twelve hour battery life mean that the wearable is suitable to monitor 544 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:36.280 a variety of physiological parameters including cardiac output, blood pressure, and heart rate. 545 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.760 And for healthy populations, people who are chronic health the issue people, 546 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:46.000 but just everybody. The new University of California, San Diego device can measure 547 00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:54.159 cardiovascular responses to exercise in real time and thus provide insights into the actual workout 548 00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:00.840 intensity exerted by each individual person, which can guide the formation of personalized training 549 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:07.559 plans. This is profoundly important potentially for physical therapy and other things of this 550 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.320 nature, right or even for physical activity nuts nuts, you know, real 551 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.880 enthusiasts who someday might have a smartphone app that's talking to this thing and it's 552 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:21.760 on their chest and showing them, you know, really interesting information about what's 553 00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:25.519 going on and with their heart. For example, during exercise. I'm sure 554 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.239 that if you know, if you did suffer some kind of cardiac issue, 555 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.039 and if you're an athlete, you know, the person wants to get back 556 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.039 to it as fast as they can doctors saying, probably don't do any exercise 557 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.280 for you know, a year plus and let your body heal, um, 558 00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:44.280 you know, and finding kind of a middle ground ralfe of you know, 559 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.719 how much is too much and then you know, kind of backing away from 560 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:51.119 that line, but still getting the exercise that the body needs. Uh, 561 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.880 you know, very important. Yeah. I can't stress enough how profound this 562 00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:00.800 story is in its possibilities for monitoring real time with no restrictions. It's just 563 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.440 gotta love it anyway. Fun they've kind of wrapped this up. A little 564 00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:10.039 fun fact about this story, the author put forth the researchers had originally intended 565 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.320 to design a blood pressure monitor. That's it blood pressure, okay, but 566 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:21.039 realized but they realized the technology may have greater functionality, and it sure does, 567 00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:27.239 including monitoring cardiac output, arterial stiffness. This is something that we kind 568 00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.360 of don't think about a lot. But that's a biggie volume of exhalation of 569 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:36.840 air from the lungs and more, all of which are essential parameters for daily 570 00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:43.239 healthcare, in daily healthcare, pardon me, or in hospital monitoring. Wow, 571 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.519 I just I love it. It's such a great upbeat way to end 572 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:52.159 today's show. I'm so curious and clearly this thing could do blood pressure as 573 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:58.079 well as other monitoring. Like you can see the technology there, you know, 574 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.800 in the article, you can see the pictures. It's uh, I 575 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.639 would say, not not that much bigger than the first thing comes to my 576 00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.880 mind is like a game Boy cartridge. But what would be a better uh, 577 00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.559 like about half the size of like a cell phone, uh, you 578 00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:14.599 know, on this person's chest. And Ralph, I'm kind of curious, 579 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.079 Like you know, Apple has been making a lot of inroads with the Apple 580 00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:22.079 Watch into continuous monitoring patients, you know, so that when you go to 581 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.679 your doctor, your doctor has you know, a thirty day, sixty day 582 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.679 kind of health record of you, not just like you said, when you're 583 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.320 in the doctor and they do measurements in that kind of thing instead of spot 584 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.360 checking, they have like a full overview. Ralph, I'm curious if whatever 585 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:43.199 technologies in here may one day make it into either our cell phones, you 586 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.599 know kind of have the cell phone and you know, be able to kind 587 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:51.119 of take this or exactly or your smart watch. And Ralph, imagine if 588 00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.360 you could take your smart watch off your wrist and kind of hold it up 589 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:58.320 to your chest and you know, kind of check for you know, either 590 00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:02.960 rhythmia or blood pressure or maybe even you know, any of these issues that 591 00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:08.159 this article already talked about. I'm wondering if this can be cheaply and safely 592 00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:15.199 integrated into a fitness watch or even even not every fitness watch may be very 593 00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:21.199 specialized for you know, outpatients, smart watches that could then double as that 594 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.599 technology at home. A lot of fun ideas. Oh yeah, absolutely, 595 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.079 or I think probably more likely for the near term if this goes on and 596 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:35.000 further development, would be a little patch that you would comfortably and that's what 597 00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.559 they keep emphasizing this as comfortable, flexible, and so forth that you do 598 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:43.320 wear on your chest. And but but to your point, it's communicating with 599 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:47.480 your smart watch or communicating with your smartphone. And then what I just just 600 00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:52.000 to personalized this for a moment, not recently, I finished two weeks my 601 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:58.639 cardiologist and I have a blood pressure machine at home, taking twice a day, 602 00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:01.000 different times of the day, blood pressure readings and so forth, and 603 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:05.599 then had to document it in a little word documents over and then I sent 604 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.119 it to him after two weeks. Wouldn't it be neat if I had this 605 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.320 device, this flexible thing on my chest, it's linked to my smartphone, 606 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:16.679 it's documenting everything continuously, and my cardiologists could pop in at any time and 607 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:21.519 kind of get a like a graph of showing, you know, what's going 608 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.159 on with Ralph's heart over this period of time or at any time. Or 609 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.280 I could provide the cardiologists with an output report, all online, all on 610 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.119 the cloud. I mean, that's that sort of thing. Just again, 611 00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.000 because I've been a heart patient for so many years, the implications of this 612 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:44.880 technology for that field are absolutely incredible. Little stuff and and and even with 613 00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:50.360 that aside, that's the next level of healthcare is Ralph, you start managing 614 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:54.920 by exception, which means that if let's say Ralph's readings are out of line 615 00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:00.480 or they're trending upward, then you know, the doctor wouldn't even have noticed 616 00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.199 it. The computer would go, hey, doctor, check out, Ralph. 617 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.519 He's you know, things are getting a little a little wonky, and 618 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:12.679 you'd get care immediately, faster and better. And ladies and gentlemen, everyone 619 00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.599 is going to benefit from little innovations like this over time. So Ralph, 620 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.840 I want to thank you for turning us on to these, this story and 621 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.719 all the others if you want any of them, Computer america dot com, 622 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.480 Ralph's website, and of course our tab over at computer america dot com will 623 00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.559 have all of Ralph's segments. Until next time, have a great day, 624 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:30.920 Thank you so much, catch next time by everyone.