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line of it. That's all I
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let's start it. Okay. Oh, when you're promoting a book, maybe,

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yes, I don't know. I
usually bring to j Loh you're jo

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Are you recording this? Get it? JLO? Awesome? Awesome. Welcome

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back to the Logical Podcast. I'm
your host, Jonathan Lodge. Today,

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I have a very special guest and
a good friend of mine I haven't seen

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in a while, and he's taken
time out of his busy schedule to join

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me here in the studio. I've
got mister Jay Dyer. Welcome brother,

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Thank you. Yeah. We were
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old pictures of me and you and
Paul and people partying from probably two thousand

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and five, plain Risk. Yes, I found the Risk photos where we

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were at Huddle House. Right,
So I look back on the that that

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time twenty years ago and we would
sit for hours and debate. Well yeah,

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and I love that and it was
formidable years in my life to disagree

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to get into contentious conversations to learn
how to do that, Like you learn

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how to do that by doing that. I ever remember anyone getting mad storming

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out. No, we always got
a lot of fun. Yeah, it

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was fun. That was right,
that was right, it was it was

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the opposite of that. It was
challenge me. Yeah, I don't know.

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Let's work this out, or I
think I know, let's test against

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the hypothesis. Right, and knowledge
should and does work this way, But

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most of our society doesn't believe this. No, it's unfortunate. I mean,

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education has been engineered to dumb people
own and to basically make everybody have

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emotional reactions to things. Emotivism,
right, I'm emotive responses, yes,

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and that based on your passions,
not on critical thinking. And nowadays I've

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learned that the best way to winner
debate is just use these bomber glasses and

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then I pull them down like this, and I scowl at you with an

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air of condescension, and I went
every day, I'm not trying to interrupt

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you any one every debate, I'm
not trying to interrupt you. Kevin.

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Can we take a break. This
show is brought to you. We've got

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a sponsored do you amount if I
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I don't know if you're able to
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of the show. Yeah, sorry
to interrupt you. Sorry, it looks

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vaguely familiar. Yeah, are you
thirsty? Like maybe an uncle or something.

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By the way, I have my
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glad you're here. I brought it
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These will help with the boomer glasses. So thank you for the yes.

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So if you drink that, you
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the slightest annoyance. So then okay, nice. Yeah. So, like

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I'm talking Jason al Dean bud Light, just anything that is insignificant inconsequential,

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you're gonna get very upset about.
You're gonna say this is the hill I'm

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gonna die on, even though I
know nothing about it. That's what that

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does for you should have come with
it. Trump? Oh yeah, yeah,

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yeah. You either love Trump everything
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does. That's part of the drink. It's all in there. It's got

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it on the label. It's just
have like a line of the tribe of

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Judah and Trump and like the Israeli
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because that is eerie to me.
I see that, and I listen.

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I was going through Arkansas and I
saw I saw six flags in a

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row, not like the six flags, but one was the POW, one

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was a gay Pride, one was
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one was the Stars and Bars.
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just want to pull over and meet
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them. That is an incoherent worldview. I don't know. I want to

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feel like they're like screw like the
you know that ethnics or whatever. You

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know. I don't know, just
I just felt like this was I'd like

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to meet this person. Like what
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one thing I remember from a long
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and I think it ultimately comes from
Aristotle, is the best way to go

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about not just debates, but discussions
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at a plus to anything in life
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position to their satisfaction, even without
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the mark of an intelligent man.
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to go back to what we're talking
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doesn't think that way if we've been
engineered away from So you have devoted the

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last twenty years plus of your life
to doing the exact thing what you just

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said. You have dedicated your life
to steadying the opposition, so to speak.

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Yeah, so you have you have
entrenched yourself with the writings of global

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elites, right what they have you
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and you have read from their viewpoints, so you're not straw manning their arguments

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whatsoever. You're saying, No,
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This is what they've written. And
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know a lot of your viewers are
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you have done. You've you've dedicated
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then essentially, I don't want to
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down for people like me so I
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Because these are complex models and complex
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plus to implement in several generations right
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the thing is I realized when I
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that even though it's starting to dabble
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lot of people viewed these as kind
of fringe and silly. And that's understandable

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given that there's a lot of disinformation
misinformation. There's a lot of bogus conspiracy

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theory. Yeah, big Foot or
whatever. Yeah, I mean, it's

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all kinds of stuff like that.
But then I realized, no, actually,

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you know, from watching a lot
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like he would cite the books,
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idea, why don't I just read
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of some of the things that he
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and so I and his presentation and
all that he is a character, he

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is a sou I was like,
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to read. Yeah, it was
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not just start working through these texts
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like you said, that gave me
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Global Elite book series, where I
go through tragic Hope, Brazinski, Bertram

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Russell, Jack got the lead.
Who's the Kissinger of France Kissinger's books and

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upright Citizens Gade has the best sketch. It's on season one of them.

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I don't know if you're famili Yeah, where they have like the earpiece and

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kissing kissing, yeah yeah, and
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I don't know where he's at talking
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of Klaus's books, I just bought
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don't know. One of the global
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George Soros if you're wearing a red
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if your hair's purple. One of
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Bond villain. He's from Spector or
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which which Bond villain he is,
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talks of the Bond villain accent,
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wants to share inform the world.
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wasn't a rich, powerful elitist.
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of all these other people we've been
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at Davos, the roll Count Forum
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CIA Harvard project many years ago,
and they chose Clouds to be in that

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role, just like Kissinger and David
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Commission role. Right. So they'll
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and say, hey, put that
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those committees in and of themselves kind
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speak. The so it almost has
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you know, we're we're globalists,
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No, he said, how dare
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So that you have these international elite
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do that or we will make sure
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trickles down eventually down to our local
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you know, because where these funding
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you have to play ball, you
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worldviews. And maybe in nineteen eighty
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in nineteen ninety two this change didn't
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like a geological landscape, if you
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you can see that it is actually
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our society. Our great grandparents,
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world is completely different from twenty twenty
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Fabian model of how to change things. What do you mean by faith Fabian

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socialism? The Fabian elites, that's
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of England and they were the first
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nineteen hundreds to say that instead of
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working class rising up and taking the
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big capital. So they they're called
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Bernard Shaw, Beatrice in Sydney Webb
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influential with people like David Rockefeller.
They were influential with a lot of the

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British royal society elites. And so
this is a reformed Marxism that says,

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let's just use the slow model of
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in not necessarily some kind of rigid
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that's allied with big capital that allows
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structures, and then we bring the
socialism in a light socialism. So it's

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it's it's a third wave. Yeah. So it's almost like they're they're I

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see, so they're almost poaching the
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there it's a slow burn, they're
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So, and all of the institutions
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IMF, World Bank, these are
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like John Maynor. Kaine's famous Fabian
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Rockefeller studied under both von Hayek and
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and the World Bank was the Rothchild's
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click. Yeah, so you've got
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they're all part of the what's called
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Fabian socialist state. And their idea
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would rise up and overthrow bloody revolution
didn't happen, right, So Marcism they

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still want it. So how are
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this model. And this model is
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culture war. Yeah. So actually
Beatrice to Sydney Webb, we're already doing

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wild o r G y type stuff
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way before today's modern abstract art or
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doing this in eighteen nineties in England, so like the nineteen sixties culture revolution.

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So we have a guy here on
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up and he is this is This
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I've been doing a documentary on him
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he was actually in height Ashbury in
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Michigan State or University Michigan under Jolly
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Jolly West, sorry not Roger,
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and uh and went and was at
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at Nazi and some of his writings
in the past decades about being around these

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these houses, these hippie houses,
where they were given this LSD and I

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did this deep dive on that whole
experiment and didn't realize that the freaking US

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government had bought up the world's supply, the entire world supply of LSD from

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Sandoza Labs from from Albert Hoffman,
had synthesized it there, gets gets it

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off to the CIA. The CIA
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people, not a whole lot of
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by the way, we have the
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have the largest voting block in American
history that's about to vote right and they

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their their leader just got his head
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we have uh, this war that
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in we're whatever advisors or whatever they
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rose colored lenses. I guess we're
fading after after World War Two, and

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these people were ready to vote out
this power structure, but they didn't,

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and they never went back to the
polls. And a lot of that is

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I believe because they were hundreds of
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or by the CIA with LSD,
and so you know, they tuned in,

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tuned out or whatever, but they
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getting at is this was a I
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history where we never the institution of
the voting institutions so to speak. Never

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it kind of it stopped. That's
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generation it's like, oh do you
vote? And we're like ah for who

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for freaking Joe whatever? And Donald
whoever? Like gross Man. Yeah,

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CIA foreign operations of how they re elections,

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like many of them, I mean
electionary against like a classic. Yeah,

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they're really really good at it,
right, So it's why would it

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be unthinkable that it would happen in
our country when it when it goes on

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all the time, and they've even
bragged around. Yeah, all kinds of

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Lidia just came down and some of
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not just the Third world. Yeah, they've been involved in. Well that's

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the maintenance of an empire, right, So Brazinski said that this is he

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called it the American empire, and
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So that's sort of like, you
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So, and yeah, you're right, I think to talk about the

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nineteen sixties counterculture stuff as a way, they had multi multi purposes. One

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of one of them was a social
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Well, what happened with me?
That was saying. But I also

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think that you're right that it kind
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confidence in our offices, yes,
you know, the presidency, this kind

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of stuff, right, So,
and it had that that was part of

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its purpose was to do that.
That's right. They were mad, they

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were upset everyone, you know,
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like hey, this instant all right, so the previous President's like, hey,

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this thing's happening. It's bad.
It's super bad, right, he

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talks about the military industrial complex.
That's the last speech he gives. And

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then this new guy comes in and
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I mean it's a it's a bad
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But hey, I'm gonna destroy the
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you know, de institutionalize the US
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was not what happened. One of
the reasons Eisenhower spoil right. Yeah.

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One of the reasons Eisenhower said that
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Bird, which was the older Cold
War program where the CIA creep this year

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recruited abou four hundred journalists at the
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you know, all of these big
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they actually gave money to a Playboy
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was the premier feminist magazine at the
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worked for the CIA, and she
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feminism to men. They promoted at
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the culture war was what the CIA
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In the Cold War, the idea
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all ways, right, so women
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children, guys liberated from the responsibilities
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was the sixties model of social engineering. All that was funded by the Congress

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for Cultural Freedom. And another adjacent
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again the recruitment of all of these
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it was all the top media publications
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that way. But when Eisenhower found
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what prompted that famous speech, was
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right, Okay, And so this
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I mean, the CIA's ransom crazy. Just look up any of these operations

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Northwoods or any of these insane things
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kind of in that same error.
I found it interesting how many groups were

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influenced by lysurgic acid. You know, so right now, the Jesus Revolution

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movie just came out and it was
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of evangelicals that believe this is their
spiritual heritage. And when you read about

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Lonnie Frisbee and how he would got
LSD from the CIA, then went and

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tripped a lot of acid, read
the Bible, baptized people in the San

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Francisco Bay or in hot tubs or
whatever it was, had these big what

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did you I can't spell as F
s U R O R G E y.

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He had these big things, right, I mean, but it took

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the institution of Methodism, Presbyterianism,
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hey man, let's break these barriers. And at the time it seemed great.

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But now you fast forward and Christianity
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that is unidentifiable. Yeah, A
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also had a background in Vietnam,
Black Operations, Green Beret and CIA stuff.

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I forget which one of the Calgary
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comes out of yeah, yeah,
yeah, I'll that Jesus People Revolution stuff.

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thing Hell's Angels, and there's these
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LSD and then tripping and changing the
minds of you know, I think they

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were experimenting with different ways that you
could basically have test tubes, right,

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right, So Petri dish Row and
see what happened. Yeah, it is

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a perfect example. Yeah, a
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they were actually paid, they were actually

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like create like the monkeys were created
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they were created for this scene and
some of the earliest videos you can watch

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of them, and they were pretty
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is cool man, you know that
we're getting paid to do this, you

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know. But am Adam Morrison,
right, yes, yes, the same

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same situation. If you see the
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this clean cut, nerdy, waspy
dude, right, and his dad's involved

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in the Gulf Ofton Keen false flag
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think that a lot of a lot
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is not. Yeah, there are
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what happens is that a lot of
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they can be then steers. Yeah, like astro turf into they changed the

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gangster rep. Yeah right yeah,
Gangster Rep I think was basically a thing

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as well. Yeah, yep,
yep, same with alpha gel. Uh,

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same with uh what's that alpha gel? Yeah? You know Alfhagel,

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like the tick borne disease. Yeah, so you're talking about the rock fills

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earlier. So I just think this
is hilarious. So side note, and

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you may already know this. I
can't think of the rock feller's name that

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like was that got lost in New
Guinea, you know, like he like

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they had the rock foundation. Yeah, so they had a foundation in New

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Guinea, Pop New Guinea, right, and they were studying preons. Yes,

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we talked about this, yes,
you and I did, yeah,

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yes, okay, came over yeah
yeah yeah yeah and they were settings and

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uh he the boat capsizes and and
he's like I'm gonna swim shot and they

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never see him again. Right.
And then Charlton Heston's son is recording a

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documentary like a decade later, just
mate from people. Yeah yeah, and

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there's this white guy like out on
a canoe with like a fig leaf,

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with like a fig leaf and a
big beard and he's just like getting it,

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you know, and I'm like,
man, maybe he made that choice.

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escape like this this uh, this

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legacy institute of demonic nonsense that my
family is doing, because like it's interesting.

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is the well Kuru specifically is the
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They have like eight thousand different languages, you know, completely unrelated,

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but so oral traditions as you know, they are, they're they're stipulated,

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they're very they're very structured. So
they had no word for Kuru prior to

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its introduction. They had no history
of Kuru prior to the Rockefeller Foundation coming

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to Papa New Guinea to study Kuru, which I just this is also people

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don't know this, but that's adjacent
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that were being done in Australia.
A lot of people don't know. I

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read a whole book on this that
m culture wasn't just US based. You

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have time, yeah, of course, yeah, well but but people think

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of it as the forty eight or
so universe. At forty two universities in

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the United states that were part of
this project, but it's actually was running

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a lot of programs in Australia.
One of those was a famous I can't

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because the guy's name is something like
Harry or something like that, but there's

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a doctor who was doing he's like
the most famous serial killer in Australia.

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But he was part of M Cultra
Or he was doing experiments on getting people

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to the point of death and then
bringing them back and studying their experiences.

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But he was doing it to the
people in the mental institute. Yeah,

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so you can look up that that
famous case, but that was studies for

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m Kultra. Yeah, and there's
dozens of this throughout Australia. And what

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you're talking about is part it's adjacent
to that's they were running all these at

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the same time. Yeah. You
know, you know, I'm an outdoorsman

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and I'm always trapping and hunting and
fishing. It. So these diseases that

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in all this nonsense, uh,
these introduced species. Uh, A lot

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of these were purposely introduced. A
lot of these diseases were purposely right,

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Yeah, I mean multiple tickborn things. So well, I know a Plumb

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Island and that Skull Island no plumb
is for limes disease limes. But I'm

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saying, yeah, yeah, I
think everybody should. Skull Island is where

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King Kong is might also be worri
from. Yeah he comes from. Do

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you know that is actually uh uh
is a King Kong STD King Kong born

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STD that he gave because the ticks
or this, he gave it to day

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watch. So remember that stupid King
Kong movie anyway, and Jack Black,

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do I remember? Yeah? I
watched it last night in preparation for the

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show. Yeah, it happened to
be. I looked on the internet and

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it was like Jay is into movies. So I was like, we got

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to watch a movie, so that
we watched that. So yeah, no,

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But so the same if we were
talking about Klaus and Davos, Yeah,

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and they had that doctor Wu Lee
Yeah yeah yeah. We have to

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uh engineer to make up people in
alleged to meat also to make it them

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smart. Yeah. Yeah, so
they're they're yeah I heard they were modifying

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mosquitoes now too. Those the other
thing it's like they're putting they're putting corona

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or something in mosquitoes. I know
they're vaccinating cows now. So that's supposedly

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haven't done it yet. They are
floating the idea. Yeah, but you

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usually means they're probably already doing it, ye say. Yeah. So as

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a meat eater, I take you
eat meat? Yes, how do you

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source them? What do you do? We have specific people that I've asked

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locally, meat dealers. Yeah,
under the table, meat dealers. This

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dude walks up with with a trench
coat and got like a meat hanging from

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a trench some porterhouses. It's crazy
because I used to source mine myself and

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and do all of my own and
h since CWD has come here, which

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is another pre on disease manufacturing Colorado
nineteen seventy three, check it out.

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They were studying. I know you've
gone down the rabbit hole in this y

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bill. It's just it's so frustrated, and that will end up in our

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groundwater, and people don't understand that. It's crazy. It is small enough

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to go through dietemacious earth and end
up in our groundwater. So and it

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takes decades, but yep, and
it doesn't go away, so you can't

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burn it, freeze it melted,
you know, So you I know you

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do this for a living. What
what are some of the cool I've been

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following you on you know, the
internet. What are some of the cool

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podcasts you've been on lately? Man? Things have blown up in the last

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year. Yeah, well we did
Alex for the blastom yourself. Yeah you

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get so I've done Alex Fourth Hour
for two and a half years now and

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that really opens So what for our
listeners that so Alex Jones Everybody's I'm probably

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sure you have all heard of Alex
Jones, right, So the fourth hour

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of his show every Friday was has
been my spot. So usually what he

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does is three hours and then he
gives the fourth hour to another person.

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So, but we've done a bunch
of in studio interviews. We were just

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there a couple of months ago in
Austin. We did like a what three

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hour special with Alex. It was
crazy. That got a lot of you

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as a lot of traction. That
opened up. What is that energy?

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Light? I mean, what do
you? What do you? The energy

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is always at full, never goes
down. It is always one hundred,

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even when like the cameras are off, like we went one hundred. We

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went to each Chinese and it was
on the whole time, like there was

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like a beverage, Like all the
beverages that they have at the Chinese restaurant

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were all splayed around him. He
would just keep bordering more like when we

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would when he would see somebody else
with that drink, like what does that

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give me that? It was like
twenty at the table right, remember that?

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So you have to go home and
like just take a nap. It's

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he's I mean, he's like a
yeah, You're like where does he get

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all this energy? Who? I'm
just I just want to go back to

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the hotel and knick it for a
second, dude, Like, yeah,

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it never stops. But that opened
up like other doors. We did the

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Tucker Carlson Special. So we did
a Tucker special on Eat the Bugs and

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that was a lot of fun.
We did tim Cast. That was a

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lot of fun. That came out
a lot of this. I love tim

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Cast. That's a cool show.
Yeah that's awesome man. Yeah. Uh.

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We did Doctor Turley, We did
Elijah Shaffer show. I just did

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Pearls Podcast probably things. What else
have we done in the Lost It's been

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crazy the last year. Who a
lot of Maria Z, Jamie Kennedy.

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Oh, we just did the Jammie
Kennedy. So we went to LA and

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we did a show with him.
Yeah. So I've been doing some of

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my comedy. Yeah uh, air
quotes, air quotes, and then I

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performed my music live. If you
ever want to think that your comedy is

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not funny, grab you a sip
of that boomer fuel right there. Okay,

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just take a one sip and you'll
be like, not funny? Will

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it turn me into Robin Williams.
You'll be It's like boomer comedy, right,

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You will be offended at comedy if
you drink. That's yeah, that's

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what I'm saying, Like, whatever
the joke is like not funny? Yeah,

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uh, that's that's super cool.
Man. So you're doing the circuit

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and then you're you're still writing.
So you have a book here, last

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book I did. So this year
we did a lot of live events.

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We've never done our own live events. We pioneered doing that for for our

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stuff, our material in the last
year. So so comedy, geopolitics,

405
00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:59,720
we throw it all into one show. And then when you say music,

406
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:03,799
yeah, I have a thing I
call cringe corps. I was I'm cringing

407
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,720
right now? What type of music
its familiar. It's all styles. So

408
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,680
there's like all styles you mean tech
now a little bit of techno. Yeah,

409
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:17,720
all styles you mean it's now,
No, I mean it's like Prince

410
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,240
influenced, depeche Mode influenced. Do
you do the influenced? What you do

411
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:26,079
the vocals? Yeah? Do you
play an instrument? No, I sing

412
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,559
this is the instrument, but that's
the instrument vocal. You can both people

413
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:34,000
do both. I've seen I've heard
you've heard of this, Yeah, I've

414
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:38,400
seen the band Ones. It was
all mimed. Yeah, it was all

415
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:45,039
animatronic. I did this. You
were like the monkeys, No, you

416
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:51,720
were. It was like the pizza
joint with the rat. You've seen the

417
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:53,519
new looks like a rat. Dude, he's not he's not a mouse.

418
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:59,599
And where it's got nasty right anyway. Uh yeah, So we integrate all

419
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,119
of that at our live shows,
and we've done I think five or six

420
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,759
live shows. We did Nashville live
live audience. It was a lot of

421
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:12,200
fun. We did Orlando, Austin, La Florida. Yeah, so any

422
00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:18,160
like juicy see, I remember one
of my favorite things and we talked about

423
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,319
earlier, is like debates. You
still you're still debating. Oh man,

424
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:25,039
we just did a huge Muslim debate, but my biggest Islamic opponent was like

425
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:27,519
three days ago, five five days
ago, Okay, it was wild.

426
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:34,000
Yeah, so that was my fifth
or sixth Muslim debate. So by by

427
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:37,079
debate, just like, I know
this, I know it's gonna sound.

428
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,079
I know, I know, and
I need to explain this. What that

429
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,880
means is it's it's not just two
people yelling at each other. It's structured.

430
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,720
Uh there, I mean somewhat with
the Muslims that sometimes is well,

431
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:51,079
you know what I mean, But
it's a it's a structured you have you

432
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,359
have an allotment of time. They
have a lot of time. Usually there's

433
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,079
a moderator, there's a topic at
hands. So formal debate you have you

434
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,759
know, a thesis pro con,
you have like fifteen minute opening statements,

435
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,200
you have rebuttals, you have cross
examination, right, and then more statements

436
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,519
and then closing stuff. Right.
So that's the typical with the moderator.

437
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,839
Right. So yeah, there's a
formal debate. How do you get set

438
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,440
up with something like this, like
what what is your criteria? I mean,

439
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,640
obviously this is something you're doing for
a living. So I mean,

440
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,079
I'm not gonna speak for you,
but I'm just gonna make assumptions. You

441
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,799
gotta have large viewership, you've got
to have probably some sort of they've got

442
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,400
to have cut their teeth. I'm
sure you don't want someone that's just gonna

443
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,839
be like, I feel this is
the best I feel Donald Trump's the bestest.

444
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,200
I feel that one. Yeah.
Eventually, yeah, you want to

445
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,839
have some criteria for sure, Like
it can't just be any random NDO.

446
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:45,440
It's got to be a person who
is notable for that position. Right.

447
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,960
So it started, I think with
just kind of a mid tier Islamic apologist

448
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:55,000
guy who was interested in Orthodoxy just
to understand it, and he happened to

449
00:32:55,079 --> 00:33:00,440
be connected to a lot of the
larger Islamic YouTube debate. So that led

450
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:06,079
to the next two Islamic debates,
with one with the doctor shapiro Lei and

451
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:10,400
then with a shake that's in Islam, that's more respect, that's like a

452
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:14,559
higher level. It's like if you're
a shake, you're kind of it's kind

453
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:17,519
of like a THHD. You know, you're a respected so and then for

454
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:23,559
for our listeners to Orthodoxy is one
of three branches types of Christianity. It

455
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:30,640
is the second largest church in the
world in the southern United States. It's

456
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,720
it's not as well known, but
it is the one of the one of,

457
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,839
if not the most ancient Christian church
in the world. Ye. So

458
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:42,960
anyways, when you say Orthodoxy,
a lot of people think Orthodox Jews or

459
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,559
something like that orthdox Christianity. So
when I'm debating the Muslims, I represent

460
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:54,000
that position obviously, but it's also
a much better approach because of the specificity

461
00:33:54,079 --> 00:34:00,880
that Orthodoxy has about the Trinity that's
not usually there in Roman Calthagan protest argumentation.

462
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,480
Not to say that there aren't Protestants
from Metholics that aren't sophisticated on the

463
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:09,079
Trinity, but Orthodox really is very
super precise in the Trinity. So specifically,

464
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:15,519
what that's much trinitarian argument is that
you what do you think that you

465
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:19,599
pull from Orthodox I'm just curious that
you would use against a Muslim. It's

466
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,199
better against a Muslim because a lot
of the texts that Muslims are going to

467
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:30,480
use from the Old Testament or from
the Gospels is going to assume assume their

468
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:35,440
unitarianism. And what we usually do
that's really effective is showing that the Old

469
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,239
Testament teaches the Trinity, that Judaism
isn't a monolithic Unitarian thing. In fact,

470
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,840
a lot of modern Jewish scholars are
admitting that looks like Early Christianity is

471
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:52,360
actually a conservative form of Judaism because
it's sticking to the authenticity of the Old

472
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,440
Testament texts, which posit a triad. So the try is all throughout the

473
00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:00,199
law and the profits. So you
have y'all way, the Angel of the

474
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,400
Lord comes in so many of those
man order called theophanis or divine manifestations,

475
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,199
and then you have the Spirit.
So essentially the Orthodox view is that,

476
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,559
no, no, it's not that
is that that Abraham was a strict Unitarian.

477
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,840
No, Abraham was a Trinitarian.
Even though he didn't use the term,

478
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,880
he still recognized, right, these
three persone in God. And so

479
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:30,199
that's becoming more so. When Jacob
wrestled with God, he was wrestling with

480
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,159
Jac's what you're saying. Absolutely,
So jac whooped up on him, came

481
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:39,119
off the top top rail and came
down. He touched that thunder, He

482
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:43,719
touched that thunder thigh boom boom,
Yeah, I got you. And so

483
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,639
the Chicana Glory, Holy Spirit.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So you

484
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:52,519
see this triad all throughout and even
specifically like where some when the prophets speak,

485
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:57,039
where like Zachariah one to three,
you have Father, you have the

486
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,320
Angel of the Lord, and then
you have the Spirit. All there.

487
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:02,960
Ezekiel one to ten, same thing, yep, yep. So trinity is

488
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,519
everywhere in the old tops one and
that's very effective against Islamic apologiz. Ezekiel

489
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:13,920
one to ten was talking about aliens. Well, if you watch the History

490
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,679
Channel, it is all right.
I thought it pretty sure it's aliens.

491
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:21,719
So I am. I'm a Christian. Also, by the way, aliens

492
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:28,119
PSI up. Big promoter of that, Lawrence Rockfeller, yep, huge promoter.

493
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,360
That What I was gonna say is
I'm a Christian one hour out of

494
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,840
the week and then the rest of
the week, I'm a strict material atheist,

495
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,360
so I only accept what the public
zeitgeist forces down my throat. Aliens.

496
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,840
Yeah, so, well, I
only believe in them now because the

497
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,519
government told me, right, yeah, they said it was aliens. And

498
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,559
it's it's funny the verbiage that they
used, because really all honestly, and

499
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:52,440
I don't know whether you've talked about
this, and I'm sure you have.

500
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:59,039
It sounds like they're describing other spirits. I mean they're talking about like biologics

501
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:01,480
and things like this. I mean, like you know, oh, biologics

502
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:05,000
have been found. Well, I
mean you think about like Moses's face,

503
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,480
right, like it was affected by
the presence of right, so like it

504
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:15,599
left a biologic I had some sort
of biological mechanism that it changed his face

505
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,840
briefly because it was interacting with this
thing. It just would make more sense

506
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,400
to me that it would be,
in my mind, another spirit rather than

507
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:31,960
a thing, a mechanical thing that
somehow built another mechanical thing and transcended this

508
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:39,320
immense space of time for millions of
years just to crash. It doesn't make

509
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,800
any sense, absolutely, yeah.
And if you go to the history of

510
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:47,519
the origins of this whole mythology,
it's bound up with a lot of known

511
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:52,239
frauds. If you look at Betty
and Barney Hill, Georgia Damski, those

512
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,679
are some of the earliest abduction stories. In the case of Georgia Damski,

513
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,639
his story was basically cribbed from a
crappy so I find novel and he got

514
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,559
found out. People started calling him
a fraud and guess who ran point to

515
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,480
shut down any investigations of him.
Alan Dullas believe it or not, so

516
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:15,280
yes, so the CIA has been
absolutely from the earliest days involves heavily in

517
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,679
the UFO phenomenon. Did a really
good interview with some dudes that are kind

518
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,400
of experts on this to Colin's brothers. They wrote like a seven eight hundred

519
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,800
page book on this topic called Invoking
the Beyond. If anybody wants to read

520
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,199
something really good, that's what they're
doing with the large a drink collider.

521
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,639
I believe I don't know what that
is. Listen, listen, listen,

522
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,880
Just think about your your objective and
logical right, try to be okay,

523
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:42,960
Hence I'm on this podcast logical I
was thinking, for the name of the

524
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,440
podcast real quick, can we take
a commercial break? This my mom does

525
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:53,119
I'm not yeah, I'm not joking
you are, I'm not so anyway.

526
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,280
No, what I was gonna say
is I just find it. I just

527
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,800
find it fascinating when you know,
it's almost as if, like in the

528
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:07,599
material atheist world, like this is
gonna sound so great, like they're God,

529
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,920
they're Jesus Christ has just like incarnated. Yeah, does that make sense?

530
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,519
You know? It's like so a
lot of the new atheists are very

531
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:22,280
open to and even promote the idea
of aliens, right, yeah, Dawkins,

532
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,800
Well, I do believe in the
possibility of aliens. He's still alive.

533
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:31,239
Yeah, he's still How Adriana Chrome's
that work in Taco Bill? I

534
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,719
don't know. Well, uh.
And then Michael Schremer the other day was

535
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,039
just saying to the question of well, how does something come from nothing if

536
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:44,360
you believe in a complete, you
know, materialistic account of the Big Bang

537
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,920
and all that, so go hold
on. So now they're appealing to mystical

538
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,280
metaphysics of quantum foam. So oh
well, quantum foam, right, and

539
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:58,360
so aliens and quantum foam are basically
the new metaphysics, right for the atheist

540
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:04,599
materialists, right, But that in
materialist defense. Classically, they've always believed

541
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:08,679
the universe has no beginning or end. That was their premise forever in a

542
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,199
day. It wasn't until the Big
Bang, but that was changed. So

543
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,760
the classic materials said, no,
the eighth or the universe is eternal.

544
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,920
But what I was gonna say anyways, cat real quick back on the Large

545
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Hay Drunk Lider, and your logical
thing about this. It's the largest thing

546
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:29,000
we've ever built in all of humanity. Okay, it's the most expensive thing

547
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:32,320
we've ever built in all of humanity. And you're gonna tell me that we

548
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,320
built this thing just to run protons
into each other. That doesn't make think

549
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:40,320
something else. I just don't know
what. I don't either. But if

550
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,639
you look at the all of your
you wrote a book called Esoteric Hollywood.

551
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,239
Look at all the esoteric symbology that's
surrounding the Large Hay Drunk Collider, their

552
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,199
website, all of the symbolism that
they put through the play. It's weird.

553
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:55,039
I'm like, what are y'all doing
down there? You're not just,

554
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:59,119
oh, we want to find out
the origins of the universe. No,

555
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:04,679
human beings don't spend that much time, that much money build this big of

556
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,360
a structure. Yeah, to run
adams into each other. Usually that kind

557
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:13,079
of stuff is built for surveillance and
control. Yeah well so yeah, yeah,

558
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,159
exactly, Yeah, probably surveillance and
control. They fall in a name

559
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,239
like I think a lot of the
Cold War architecture of what was put into

560
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:27,119
place with like Setti and those giant
good example of this, those giant dishes

561
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,639
that were supposedly to send emails to
alien life SETTI. Oh yeah, I

562
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:35,440
actually think that was part of just
Cold War like they were using it for

563
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:37,679
surveillance. Was that contact? Was
that? Didn't they used to say contact?

564
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,960
Okay? Yeah, it's in a
lot of movies. Yeah. Matthemconne

565
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:49,679
is the dreamiest preacher I've ever You
gotta you gotta dream there. Foster does

566
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,679
not like him, though, Hunt
tell you that much. Well, if

567
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:57,079
you remember that movie. It's funny
because he's actually the spiritual counselor to the

568
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,960
presidents. The president's like a Bill
Clinton kind of wrote like a motor Matthew

569
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,320
matthewmconny, he's the spiritual counselor.
Right, yeah, yeah, bail,

570
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,880
you need a may baby, I
will tell you what today. Yeah there

571
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,760
you Yeah, that's a it's a
terrible movie. Yeah, if you go

572
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:22,000
watch it, like because it's krals
Sagan propaganda. But it doesn't. But

573
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,559
but but I know, but who's
the dad man? He was such a

574
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:30,440
good dad. I can't think of
that Bill Pittman Pullman, Bill Pullman.

575
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:37,519
He's not maybe Bill Bill Pullman or
one of the I forget, but I

576
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,440
watched The Enemy the State the other
day nineteen ninety nineteen ninety nine. Guess

577
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:47,199
who's in that who brief first early
movie cho No, Jamie Kennedy, he

578
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,840
isn't there. He is one of
the tech nerds, Yes with him and

579
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,599
Seth Green and Yes and Jack Black
and yep yep, yep, yep yep.

580
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,440
Enemy States. Great. Yeah,
But I mean so we watched it

581
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,159
and we were laughing at all the
you know, like the way they preview

582
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,840
or project, like how technology is
going to develop or whatever. And I'm

583
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,440
like, when do you think this
movie is made? We're trying to guess.

584
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,719
Obviously post nine to eleven. Obviously
it's talking about NA it's talking about

585
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,920
oh yeah. But I mean in
my mind it was like obvious. It's

586
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:23,039
so obvious because it's like the control
state. And I mean the Senator at

587
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:27,360
the beginning is like, I don't
want to pass this legislation that's going to

588
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,760
take away everybody's civil liberties. Yeah, and they're like, no, you're

589
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,480
gonna pass it right to get civil
liberties right, And of course, right

590
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,760
post nine eleven, that's exactly what
everybody lost. But yeah, and speaking

591
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,679
of Jimmie Kenny We we filmed the
podcast with him, Jamie Kennedy. Here,

592
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,719
you keep looking over there. I
don't want to look over there's heat

593
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,239
here. I just keep looking up
at the camera because we're on a podcast

594
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,280
and so the audience. Yeah,
exactly, that's not jam Kenedy cut to

595
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,119
a commercial. Very cool? Quick? Are you serious? How many times

596
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:01,199
do you promote this guy, this
insurance con man or whatever? How do

597
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,599
you make your money? I'm being
honest. How do you make your mind?

598
00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:06,719
I'm not trying to be condescending.
How do you make your money?

599
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,320
Gold? I sell gold? The
balloons on How do you make your money

600
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,519
on the dark web? The Black
Webb commercials? I mean, seriously,

601
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:15,840
don't people have to promote? Can
we run to the commercial? I'm sorry,

602
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:20,280
I'm just having fun. No,
I'm I have to make money.

603
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,039
It's like you understand. Yeah,
it's familiar with this world of podcast.

604
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:28,519
It's rough, dude, it's rough. My four hundred listeners, well,

605
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:31,119
no telling what this? How's that's
that tight? Wide pay anything? A

606
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,519
lot keeps his place up and running. Okay, yeah, yeah, a

607
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,880
lot. I mean that's why I
have him so much. When you go

608
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:43,039
into Jamie's Jamie Kennedy's uh condo.
It's where we he films this podcast.

609
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,960
And what's funny is like it's like
a Hollywood version of uh cracker Barrel.

610
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,480
Every inch of the wall is like
movie memorabilia in every room. It was

611
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:54,840
crazy, Like you go in the
bathroom, every inch of the wall is

612
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,480
like Jamie Kennedy stuff because he was
actually in tons of movies. Yeah.

613
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:01,559
Yeah, it was just made me
think of that because I'm in here in

614
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:05,280
this podcast for him, and it's
like, have you seen the movie Funny

615
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,360
People with Adam Sandler when he's like
a dying comedian and he has like Seth

616
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:13,480
Rogan. He hires Seth Rogan to
like write jokes form or whatever. It's

617
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:15,360
the same premise. You go to
his house and his house is like decorated

618
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:21,679
with all of his stuff from like
his when he was like yeah, yeah,

619
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,599
dude, all of my four h
ribbins, all of my speech team,

620
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,000
you're out trophies, Yeah, my
whole whole house. Yeah, my

621
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:30,639
kids bring home stuff, and I'm
like, h gotta be the first,

622
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,599
got to be first bum. Yeah. It wasn't it that Jamie was there?

623
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,880
Wasn't it that way, it was
like it was like a Hollywood cracker

624
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,559
Borough right, yeah, anyway,
but yeah, he was in anemy state.

625
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:45,800
I forgot about that until recently.
Yeah, wild movie. I mean

626
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,119
just like again, it's that predictive, predictive, Yeah, predictive programming nonsense.

627
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,519
Uh, you know, I don't. We try not to. There's

628
00:45:52,559 --> 00:46:00,320
not too many movies that grab grab
us these days. We I ten into

629
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:04,079
feel like and I know you know
this to be the case, but there's

630
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:08,000
a huge shift that's taking place right
now in cinema and I like it.

631
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:14,760
I tend I like it a lot. Great yeah or sound Sound of Freedoms?

632
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,920
Yeah, yeah, So what's going
on with that? I heard one

633
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,239
of the dudes it was like a
crowdfunder producer got picked up and the big

634
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:24,800
big for child trafficking and no,
no, that was everyone's hating. No

635
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:30,599
no, So that had hundreds of
people that could donate. Yeah, and

636
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,360
so one dude had donated and he
got caught as but I mean anybody could

637
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,599
donate that. Yeah. Why are
they hating on this movie so much?

638
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,920
I think? Is it's legit because
it's talking about child trafficking. Yeah,

639
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,679
So for those of you don't know
there's the media says doesn't exist, even

640
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:52,559
even as Oprah's spiritual counselor John of
God, was just convicted and given a

641
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:54,840
hundred year sentence for human trafficking.
Yeah, so those you don't know,

642
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,559
there's more slaves in the world than
there's ever been in all of human history,

643
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:05,000
but both population and percentage. That's
a fun, real fact. And

644
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,039
we live in a world and in
a society where we act as if that's

645
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:14,800
not the case. But that is
one hundred percent factual. CIA factbook actually,

646
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:17,679
And there's a bunch of books that
have come out over the years about

647
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:23,400
this stuff. I mean, my
publisher did Franklin Scandal Franklin cover Up.

648
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,679
That book came out in the early
it's about the events in the early eighties

649
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,880
of boy trafficking. The best thing, and I don't mean this as a

650
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,000
joke, and it's going to sound
funny, but follow me down this philosophical

651
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,559
rabbit hole. The best thing to
happen to slavery historically speaking, is the

652
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:45,199
Civil War because technically, if you
think about it in our public's I guess

653
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,880
it ended it ended slavery. Slavery
ended right at that date. But really,

654
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,960
just like some of these other systems
that we talked about, different kind

655
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,559
of slavery. It's a different kind
of slavery. Yeah, and they got

656
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,320
better at it, right, more
sophisticated, more sophisticated they got, they

657
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,599
got, they got better at it, and they tried early on, you

658
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:07,840
know, and we could see early
examples of like the early robber barons with

659
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,119
the company stores and that that kind
of sticks out on our mind. But

660
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,400
we're not enslaved. Me Jonathan Lodge
in twenty twenty three, I'm not.

661
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:21,719
I'm the exemption to this rule,
just like the algorithms not influencing my own

662
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,360
preferences in brain, I'm exempt from
there, just like I support the political

663
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:29,679
person that I support because of my
own free will, not because I've been

664
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,760
imprinted by whoever. Right, No
nonsense, Right, that's nonsense. Yeah,

665
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,639
it's like we're all slaves in a
different it's like a grad a scale,

666
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,519
that's right. We may not be
like on a plantation, but if

667
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:44,199
we're we're on the Disney plantation,
like if we're programmed by Disney, right,

668
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,199
yeah, like if our kids are
raised on Disney right. Well,

669
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:51,320
and also too, you know this
we live in in Western society. We

670
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,559
tend to put things in this weird
like it's either this or it's that black

671
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:57,599
or white, you know, these
these dichotomies or whatever you want to call

672
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:00,199
it. And uh, and we
tend to we tend to like look at

673
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,320
things as if they're worse, you
know, we tend to like have a

674
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,599
scale of oh, oh, this
is inherently worse or inherently better. And

675
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:15,400
at you know, chadow slavery obviously
terrible, horrible, but any experience that

676
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:19,599
you have can be terrible and horrible. And how is it that we are

677
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:22,679
going to grade these things? And
I think that if it's a slow,

678
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:28,760
easier methodical, it tends to be
less abrasive, and it tends we tend

679
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,440
to say, wow, that didn't
hurt so bad, exactly, that wasn't

680
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,000
so bad. Yeah, slow kill
Fabian model exactly. Yeah. The Fabian

681
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:38,079
symbol is uh a wolf and chef's
clothing. Their other symbol is a turtle.

682
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:45,119
Because it's just local interesting. So
what are what are we supposed to

683
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,599
do in twenty twenty three? Man? You start a podcast? Have you

684
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:55,880
ever heard of podcast? No?
No? I mean, like our generation

685
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:05,719
we were handed a shit bag.
We were we were raised to believe we

686
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,760
could do anything we want. The
world was our oyster. We were we

687
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:15,000
this awesome, you know, just
just awesome ideas of limitless you know,

688
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:22,960
bounty. And then we we we
can't escape debt. We can't hardly buy

689
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,639
housing. Yeah. Why is debt
slavery not considered slavery? Yeah, I

690
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,719
mean we know this term from history
debt slaves. Right, if you owed

691
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,760
a lot of money, you go
to debt or prison, you meant to

692
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,760
work it off. Right, But
if the whole money systems based around fiat

693
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:43,760
usury, how is that not everybody
enslaves? It's that from future generation as

694
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,519
well too, by the way,
Oh yeah, that happened in the last

695
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:50,679
two years. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. And the inflation is like what

696
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,480
ten percent after KUP right, right, right, so that the largest upward

697
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:58,559
mobility transfer of wealth. Oh you're
talking about just the transfer just to transfer

698
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:04,320
wealth from the big emerge to the
devaluation of the currency just from KUP is

699
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,280
ten percent, that's right, Which
is crazy. Yep, it is crazy.

700
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,800
It is crazy, and it's which
is theft, and it's going to

701
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,840
get worse, and you know that's
that's the I don't know, that's the

702
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,639
struggle that my generation are. And
I don't want to speak for my entire

703
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:23,400
generation, but we just see this
and we see it on fire and we're

704
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,000
just like, yeah, this is
horrible. I don't want to be a

705
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:29,199
part of the system. I don't. And it's like I don't want to

706
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,079
vote for Biden, I don't want
to vote for Trump. I don't want

707
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:35,840
to do any of these I don't
want to give UH credence to any of

708
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,679
these institutions because they're obviously false.
They've obviously let us down, legacy media,

709
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:45,199
whatever it is, right, we're
outright rejecting it. But our problem

710
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,880
is we don't know what to fill
with that void, and so we do

711
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,800
You speak to Karl Sagan, It's
one of my favorite quotes is we've filled

712
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,559
it with, you know, clutching
crystals and nonsense. We've filled it with,

713
00:51:57,199 --> 00:52:00,639
you know, we've rejected material atheism. But what we have filled in

714
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,840
its void is dumb New Age stuff. Dumb New Age stuff. Yeah,

715
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:12,119
anything but anything but you know the
crystals and that kind of junk that's like

716
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:14,800
the number one thing on TikTok.
That's like they're all witches and in the

717
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,800
crystals. Yeah, it gets like
a million likes on ticks. And what's

718
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,880
crazy is what group hates that people
hates those people worse than anybody else.

719
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:29,480
Evangelical Protestant Christians, right, they
hate witches, remember, like the whole

720
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:32,360
Satanic ritual abuse and all that,
right that they were like public enemy number

721
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,400
one. It's like Satanists right,
right. They hate each other. Now,

722
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,639
who would the New Age blame all
of their trauma and all of this,

723
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:45,239
you know, regression from their parents. They hate who the Evangelicals,

724
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,760
right, But they both believe and
work off the same model and same system,

725
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,000
which is God or the God of
verse is Santa Claus. Hey,

726
00:52:55,079 --> 00:53:00,079
man, we can do X y
Z, we can line everything up and

727
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:02,159
we can manifest this, or we
can pray to God that we'll have a

728
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,119
Lamborghini Counto Shinar garage when we get
home. That's a point and whatever the

729
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:10,519
nonsense is. But it's like they
are building off that same block. It's

730
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:15,320
the same theology, it's the same
theology, and they hate each other.

731
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,760
And to make that comparison to the
twenty four year old girl who has daddy

732
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,760
issues in search reline or whatever,
yeah, yeah, and to the sixty

733
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,920
six year old Karen that wants to
cut someone off in Kroger because she's entitled

734
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,840
to. They're the same, You
believe the same thing. You believe that

735
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:40,119
you control the will and power of
the world. Yeah, that you can

736
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,960
with your faith move mountains whatever your
faith is, right, Yeah, yeah,

737
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:51,480
this is like God is a concept
that is a technology that I can

738
00:53:51,639 --> 00:53:55,320
harness to better myself and get what
I want, which asolutely I like Jordan

739
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,800
Pearson says a lot of good things, but that's also his view of God

740
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,639
ultimately is basically that God is like
this concept that's a self help technology verb

741
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,000
yeah, an action. Essentially,
Tate says the exact same thing to you

742
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:12,199
about God. H is funny because
you would think that Titan Peterson has views,

743
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:14,519
but they have the same view of
God, that God is this technology

744
00:54:14,639 --> 00:54:20,039
that gets you what you want.
So but but if that technology is a

745
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,840
means to the end, then wouldn't
that end, I mean, isn't this

746
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:28,360
sort of a self refuting world view? Wouldn't that end then become God?

747
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:31,440
Right? If? If right?
Right? If the technology God is a

748
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:37,559
self help thing that gets me God
Bugatti right, Yeah, God's what helps

749
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:40,400
you do what you gotta do to
survive. What does that mean well,

750
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:44,559
to flourish? What does that mean
well? To do well? Right?

751
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,519
Oh no, no, yeah,
we can't define any moral no, absolutely

752
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:52,679
not. How dare you start to
make any kind of moral claims about anything?

753
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,960
Well, both of those views,
they just end up, like you

754
00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:01,800
said, the telos, the purpose
of that is just Santa Claus. Yeah,

755
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:07,599
I want to Lamborghini country. I
want to be successful and not uh

756
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:09,760
and I'm all like, I want
a house and a wife, not being

757
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,000
a loner apartment with on you know, drugs, right right, So Jordan

758
00:55:14,039 --> 00:55:16,079
Peterson appeals to me so that I
can get to a better status in life.

759
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:20,960
Not that that isn't a better status
in life, but like you're saying,

760
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:23,159
like, well, that's just making
a different creative thing of God,

761
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:30,760
right right. I want I want
Tesla to release, you know, Perrywinkle

762
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,920
Blue, And so I'm gonna manifest
that. So I've I've lined up my

763
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:37,599
crystals and I've got my sages,
and I'm gonna manifest that Elon's gonna release

764
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,320
Perrywinkle Blue. Yeah, because I
have that power. But all right,

765
00:55:43,519 --> 00:55:45,840
yeah, with with just the right
stuff, you know what I mean,

766
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,639
With just the right stuff, it's
a technology. Yeah, it's a technology.

767
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,599
And and oh oh I love this
because I saw this the other day

768
00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:59,199
on Facebook and I should have bought
us both matching ones. But you know,

769
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:04,360
the Bible is used as technology,
right, and it's been used since

770
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,360
I don't know, five hundred years
or so, let's say roughly, as

771
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,719
technology. And is that when you
think the Bible came to be five hundred

772
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,000
years ago, Jonathan, Uh,
it came to be? No, hang

773
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:21,360
on, I'll give you a date. Jesus died, rose from the dead

774
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,719
and he's like and he's like,
boom, he handed it off and he

775
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:30,480
did this the k Yeah, okay, he did that and disappeared. Yeah

776
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:35,280
yeah no. So so you know, using using that as technology, so

777
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,599
you know, we can we can
look into this thing and we can decipher

778
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,679
the text and we can connect the
dots and yeah yah yeah yeah yeah.

779
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,800
But I mean, but that's what
it all is, is like, hey,

780
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,599
if you just read, I will
give you a proposition X y Z,

781
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,280
and I'll be able to back it
up with this connect the dots scripture.

782
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,320
Right, And that's why we have
forty thousand different denominations or whatever.

783
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:59,960
But when I was on Facebook,
the other day. This point was articular

784
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,400
related by So instead of like wearing
a cross like most people would wear around

785
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:13,320
their neck, right, you could
buy a micro engraved the entire Bible nano

786
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:19,719
engraved with like the laser etched and
it's like, however many millimeters the text,

787
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,760
but it's the entire text written on
this silicon, you know, like

788
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:28,360
you would write a computer chip or
something, and then it's glassed and then

789
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,599
enclosed with twenty four carrot gold and
it's this square and it's all of the

790
00:57:31,679 --> 00:57:37,960
Bible written out. I know,
But do you understand the what this is

791
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:43,239
representing? So instead of a cross
that you would wear, it's that which

792
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,760
is we worship Jesus Christ. No, we're worshiping the technology, okay,

793
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:53,119
the nanotech, the scripture, Right, Scripture is the technology from which we

794
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:57,960
come to understand God, and we
use that scripture. We use that technology

795
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:01,199
to defend our world views or whatever
it is. So instead of keeping God

796
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,039
close to our hearts, yeah,
we keep scripture close to our What did

797
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:08,119
Jesus say the Pharisees? You search
of scriptures because you think that it is

798
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:10,639
in them that you have eternal life? When is they that bear witness at

799
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:16,000
me. That's right, Yeah,
that's right. Uh Daniel, that's a

800
00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:21,679
good one. People were witness to
Jesus, remember him. That's the name

801
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,639
I took in Christmas. So it
was really that's cool, man. I

802
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:30,079
won't take up anymore your time.
I've enjoyed. I've enjoyed all of this.

803
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,440
I'm gonna can we real quick?
Please don't get mad, did you?

804
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:37,679
Okay? There is a camera there? Yeah, I don't know,

805
00:58:38,239 --> 00:58:42,239
son like this whole time. That's
not actually a camera. It's just a

806
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,400
thing out there. And I've been
talking to the wall. Dude, anytime

807
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:51,280
you want to come back on here
and talk. And I look forward to

808
00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:53,199
real quick. Let's plug your book
because we didn't get to do that man.

809
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,119
Yeah, well this is the new
book. This is what when we

810
00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:59,719
do the live events. We're pushing
this book so and I can get this.

811
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,360
This is for you. It's hence
it's signed to j Lowe. Get

812
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:07,679
it, John Lodge. Well,
Jennifer Lopez. I'm calling you, Jennifer

813
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:10,039
Lopez. Okay, yeah, I
get it now, Okay, got it?

814
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:14,599
There we go, so sign copy
and this is Meta Narratives Essays on

815
00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:19,559
philosophy and symbolism and I can find
this on Amazon. Please don't get it

816
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:22,199
from Jeff Bezos. Go to my
website Jason Alsos dot com and in the

817
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:27,079
shop you get the sign copies of
my all of my books, previous books,

818
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:30,159
the Hollywood books, also my wife
Jamie's books. Oh cool, So

819
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,239
then we don't give Jeff Bezos money. You don't give Jeff Bezes money and

820
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:37,280
you get an actual sign copy.
And I gotta say so esoteric Hollywood.

821
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:43,840
It was your first major book that
you published, and it was amazing.

822
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,559
And then I have I haven't read
the entire thing, but you gave me

823
00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:51,960
last time I saw, you gave
me a copy of your Red Book.

824
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:54,320
The Red Book. Yeah, that's
just kind of like a homemade thing that

825
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,119
somebody did. I didn't even do
it. They just stuck all the essays

826
00:59:58,159 --> 01:00:00,079
that I wrote the last ten years
into a book. Yeah, so you

827
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:04,320
can get that one there. Yeah. There's also as Circularwood two, which

828
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,599
nice is a better written book than
us Circular Wood. Yes, but yes,

829
01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:09,480
yeah, yeah, so you can
get all those. I'm working on

830
01:00:09,679 --> 01:00:15,039
s Circugood three, working on another
book I want to do on like geopolitics

831
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:17,639
and global elite books that kind of
stuff. So hopefully we have some new

832
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:22,639
books out in the in the coming
year. So real quick, Jay's Analysis

833
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:28,840
dot com and you can subscribe,
you can buy your merch books, all

834
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,400
that archives. You can also find
me on rock Fin YouTube. Twitter.

835
01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:37,840
Twitter has been a big boost in
the last year, so I mean,

836
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,440
that's growing faster than all the other
things for me. So I'm very active

837
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,639
on Twitter. Oh yeah, and
then big shows. I'm doing a podcast

838
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:51,719
with the most famous living gangster,
Sammy the Bull Gravano No our seventh podcast.

839
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,360
So dude, that's cool you and
Sammy the Bull. You're on your

840
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:59,440
seventh podcast. Yeah, he's the
guy that basically took down John Gotti and

841
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:02,039
the whole syndicate there. It's so
funny. You talk about my dad,

842
01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:06,000
but when we would go and see
my uncle, we would always drive by

843
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,360
mary And Penitentiary and we and Dad
would say, way of a John guy.

844
01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:15,039
I'm not getting uncle Sam. He
has a funny story that like because

845
01:01:15,079 --> 01:01:20,320
he was stationed, he was sentenced
to the ad X Supermax. Oh yeah,

846
01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:22,679
where where Epstein was not at the
same time. But okay, so

847
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,920
he's like, there's no way they
won't let you have nothing, no way

848
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,519
killed himself. You can't even have
a you can't even have a dowel.

849
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:36,280
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Now Epstein, who's this, uh

850
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,559
professor whatever? Having about a mouth? Professor, Why don't we, professor,

851
01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:45,000
drink your boomer fuel and get mad
at bud Light and get mad at

852
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:50,960
Dylan mulvane and all this stupid stuff. And let's forget about Jeffrey Epstein taking

853
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:59,440
world leaders and CEOs and freaking Hollywood
elitist to a island with little children.

854
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:06,480
Let's all just forget about that and
move on and get mad at Jason Aldean

855
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,079
and guys, they did try that
in your town. I just have to

856
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:13,360
let you know they tried it,
they did it, and they won.

857
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:20,280
This has been The Logical Podcast.
Special guests Jade, I thank you.

858
01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:22,480
Tune in next week. Guys,
I appreciate it, thank you so much.

859
01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:25,639
Actually, this is one of the
funniest parts.