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Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Cast and Dogs ninety four feet podcast,

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Your boy Bixek in the building.
I heard my brother Dre ninety four

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feet Nation was good with it,
excited to be back for another show.

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It's good as you know, this
is the two out of the three here.

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Somebody had something more important to do
with that's neither here nor there.

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How is going? It's good man, you know it's I'm glad it's not

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so cold. Man. It's been
cold man, It's just has been a

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heat with it. Literally, like
I finally turned my heat off. Like

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I have electric heat and I live
upstairs. So if you know anything about

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living upstairs, heat rises and electric
heat, right, you can turn it

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on and you're and it's hot in
a matter of minutes. So I haven't

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used heat for the last four days. So uh, we energies. I'm

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sure they're somewhere pretty upset right now
because they've been killing the last couple of

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weeks. Man. So well,
I was just gonna say they're gonna get

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all that money? Well, I
mean, for like, I got my

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bill, and you know I live
in a one bedroom apartment, right,

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no big secret there. My bill
cut off I think it was like last

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week and it became it was like
one hundred and twelve dollars. I never

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used so much heating by life,
bro, because I'm a hot box man.

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I sleep with a fad all right. But uh, I'm glad it's

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it's cooling off a little bit,
man. So it's been good. Man,

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I'm good. I'm I'm happy.
You. How you doing, brother?

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You look a little sleepy, man. It's a little turning, uh

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little under the weather. But man, first of all, it's the season.

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It's a cold. You ain't walking
around with the dead. You're good.

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I'm just saying, colds are our
sickness too. You know you could

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have threw a mask off. You
could have called in I'm here, yeah

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somewhat. You know I'm here.
I made I made the that true true

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toe and because I'm dedicated, but
you know, I don't need to get

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going. It look like some cough
sirt b That's what it looks Texively,

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it looked like do you watch power
so you know that look like some league

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And then you mixed it, bro, watch too much? Man. That

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was kirk ole Ban. That that
was that kirkle Bands. Anyways, going

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to the injury report Dre. Yeah, Boston Celtics are without Porzingis ain Ko

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day to day. The Mavericks are
without Kyrie Irvin. He is out with

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a thumb injury. I swear he's
out more than he plays. I just

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you saying it about everybody. But
he's on your fantasy team. He's on

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my fantasy team. He's doing trash
like my team. He's your fantasy team

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every year. Well, this year
our auto draft for the first time,

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because the two people in my league
that had auto draft won second place two

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years in a row. But now
I'm doing worse. Listen, I'm about

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done with everything n B but my
season tickets and and close to being done

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with those. If they don't if
they don't stop raising the prices, okay,

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but we gotta pay three coaches.
But we'll get to it when we

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get to it. I'm just saying, we gotta pay three Who else is

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who's paying for it? Us?
The kids? Oomer uh. The New

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York Knicks are without Julius Rando.
He has a dislocated right shoulder. I

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saw that game. I would bet
he's probably done for the season. No,

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yeah, it wasn't it. They
said it wasn't as bad as it

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looked, okay, because I was
gonna say that was a pretty ugly hit.

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And we talked to We got on
the shoulder rant last week, that

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shoulder and and and and and Uh, ironically, the next day, my

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shoulder was hurting a whole week.
Was hurting the whole week. Gotta stop

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sleeping on two pillows. It affect
so much. Uh. The Sixers are

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without their up and coming superstar,
my man Tyrese Maxie, who better be

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an All Star. He is out
with an ankle injury dating day and b

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left knee day to day. Interesting
note about Mbid, he and Joker.

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It's kind of following the lebron kd
thing. And what I mean by that

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Embiid hasn't played in Denver in six
years. He hasn't played in six years.

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And the other note, I don't
know if this is on your docket,

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but it's important to know about these
injuries. The hard stance that the

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NBA is taking. If he misses
five more games, he's not eligible for

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any season awards, including MVP.
You know what's funny, including MVP.

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I did not know that well.
I knew about we we talked about the

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rule change, and we all agreed
they'd be like it. I didn't know

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if Beid had missed that much.
But if that is the case, that

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would be a tragedy. And to
be honest with you, I think he

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will make the NBA take another look
at it. I don't think it will.

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I think it's I think it will
make players stop coddling some of these

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injury. But that's true too,
that's true. But what I'm saying,

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like bron out there forty balling out, don't do that. Step out there

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at almost forty balling out. If
they can do it and be suit up

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and play ten minutes, I was
wanna say this. We're not gonna talk

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about the Battle of the Losers.
We ain't. That was a great game.

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It was still the Battle of the
losers anyway it was it was it

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not the battle of the losers.
The Phoenix Suns are thought Nurkics with a

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thumb injury. Day to day.
You will not call step current loser in

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my presence, I'm sorry. Does
he not have a losing record this year?

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His team has a losing a losing
team the Golden State. Isn't he

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a part of the team they're playing
for playing out of the team. They

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are playing for playing, which is
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battle the losers ain't gonna time for
that. So we're gonna go around.

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We're gonna get to the shoot around. When we talk about news n b

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A news around the NBA, rumors, trade talks on and so forth.

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The Miami Heat have acquired Terry Roseier
from the Charlotte Hornets in exchange for Kyrie

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Lowry Kyle Lowry in a twenty twenty
seven first round pick. What did you

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think of this trade? All right? So for me, I think personally

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it's a win for Miami simply because
Kyle Laurie is washed. I say,

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I hate to say that, you
doesn't I did. Kyle Laurie is washed.

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When you start getting traded to the
more uncompetitive teams in the NBA,

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you're starting to see that your season
is ramping up. In fact, I'll

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make a bold prediction Charlotte will try
to trade him again before the deadline,

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or they'll buy him out and he
could go to a contender and give three

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or four points off the bench.
But I think Kyle Lawry's obviously his best

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days are way behind him, and
I think his NBA career is coming to

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an end. Usually I am a
draft pick. I am a big protector

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of DRAFTI you're a big advocate for
draft picks. But in twenty twenty seven,

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these kids are in high school right
now, right, so it's hard

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to know what they're going to be. But also, Miami has been good

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enough that a late first round draft
pick has done nothing for him, right,

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meaning they don't I mean they don't
pick they got I can't think of

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his name right now. The Latino
guy he has been balling out. I

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don't know if he's a first round
draft pick though, but I'm saying that

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to say that they don't never pick
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They'll get a decent player. So
I'm okay with this. I like

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what Miami Heat did. I like
this. Charlotte once again acknowledge that they'll

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be at the bottom of the NBA's
pool this year. You might as well

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shut down lametal lamellow ball and not
risk further injury. Kyle, he got

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his championship. He has two,
right, he has a two? Or

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one? He has one? He
got his championship with Toronto, went over

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to Miami and got paid. Uh, but his career is on the Domard

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spiral and it's near the end,
so good for Miami. I don't know

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how Rod is gonna fit in Miami
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well, I mean, yeah,
I guess, so, I guess.

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But he's just gonna start or come
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shooting guards, Jimmy Butters small small
there. They need. They need somebody

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who can not run the floor.
They just need somebody young. I thought

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this was, like you said,
this is a way for Kyle to get

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to a more competitive team and all. So this is Miami to get some

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young people there because they always aiming
for like a superstar, but nobody's been

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coming there lately. So I think
this is nice, a nice piece.

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I think he's gonna finish. I
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him. He's been wanting to go
to if you social media, he's been

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one to be in Miami for actually
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I always think that, especially when
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can't actually can't wait for the buyout
market to come along. Do you think

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the Bucks should pick up Kyle.
I think we should. I think we

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should. No, why not?
Number One, we have a new coach,

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so that's already a growing pain we
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two players are on the trading block, which are Pat and one other player,

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I believe Cameron Paine Kyle Laurie does
nothing to make the Bucks better,

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not one single thing, not one
I wanted. Not. That's what I'll

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say to that. That's what I'll
say to that. I'm always I think

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one of the things the Bucks are
missing is a dog. We did talk

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about that, and I think especially
in the guard position, I think Kyle

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can do that. He doesn't have
to shoot a lot, he doesn't have

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to be you know. I think
I think you put Kyle in a position

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where he doesn't have to score and
he is effective in other ways. I

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think that's where he comes into play
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we need somebody that can, you
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especially with we're trying to make a
championship run, which is what we're

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trying to do. And we'll get
into that later in Bucks talk. But

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I feel like veterans like this can
still bring something to the table. I

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don't see why we can't like fit
them in somewhere because the people that we

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have, like we need an upgrade
in at that position, in the back

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court positions. So having somebody like
that, a veteran who can even like

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run the offense, so you know, I will say this thing about Kyle

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is that he's not a great jump
shooter recently, but it can possibly change.

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I've never known Kyle to be a
great jump shooter. I've known him

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to be a spotty shooter, so
spotty shooter. If you're adding Kyle to

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your team, you're not adding him
with the understanding that he's gonna help scoring,

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right, You're not even adding him
for IQ. You're almost adding him

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for a roster spot. Kyle has
nothing to contribute anymore. I think it's

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over, and it's okay for it
to be over. I think it's done.

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I mean, just just listen to
some of his his his stats here,

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real quick, two points, two
rebounds, twenty five minutes with the

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shooting. I'll get the full stats
in one second. Two points three rebounds,

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four points, three point three rebounds, two points, four rebounds,

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zero points, zero points, zero
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twenty five to thirty minutes a game. I'm gonna, like I said,

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I'm not expecting him to come in
and shoot averages. He's averaging twenty eight

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minutes eight points a game, which
is which is a stretch his season average

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eight points a game, which is
a lie bield goal percentage. He's shooting

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forty two percent three point percentage.
He' shooting thirty eight percent, which I

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then again, I think he's a
lie. He is. Let me see

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zero zero zero zero. He is
zero for twenty four over his last eight

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games from the three point line.
Rebounds, He's averaging three assists for steals

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one. He's at one steal the
last ten games. So Kyle Lowry is

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not There are a lot of players
who are not signed. There are a

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lot a lot of players who we
can trade for that are way better than

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Kyle our past our past. This
discussion came up. I think it's from

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Twitter from Kevin Durant. He was
he put himself no, he said,

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well, I don't. I'm okay, real quick, I don't know.

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I do know this conversation came from
k D and I also know it came

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from Twitter and He was just like, why am I not in the goat

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discussion? And what do else do
I have to do? Now? He

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said this, and the floodgates opened
the good I do want to say that

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to me, I think two things. Gilbert Reena said something out that kind

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of like brought it in for me. He said, Number one of the

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goat debate is a debate. It's
two people. It's about two people.

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It is usually Michael Jordan and Lebron
James. Now, who depends on who

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you're talking to. Some people could
say Michael Jordan, Kobe. Some people

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say Michael Jordan, Steph Curry,
so on and so for blah blah blah.

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But it's always two people. Now, if you talk about a goat

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discussion or a conversation, that's a
little different. That's when that three,

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four and five come in. That
to me, if someone weren't, you

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say, KD is in the goat
discussion or conversation, I would hear them

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out. And the thing about it
is he has the stats and the statistics

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to be in that conversation. It's
just that it's hard for somebody who,

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to me, who honestly knows basketball, who's not just a fan to put

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him in that conversation. So let
me ask you this. I got two

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questions. Two part question for you, is he in the goat conversation?

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And no? Yeah, is he
in a goat conversation? And we'll start

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with part one. Is he in
a gold conversation? For you? No,

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you don't want to do you want
to expound on that or you just

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want to keep it, keep it
playing it. I mean, the bottom

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line is Kevin Durant joined the best
team in the last thirty years. He

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joined the best team in the last
thirty years. That put him out in

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the conference finals. That that,
right there is one. He's done nothing

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to prove that he can carry or
take a team to a title. That's

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number two. Uh, he's two
and two in the finals, like Lebron

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is four and ten in the finals. Right, he's two in two in

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the finals. So fifty to fifty, he's not even top for me,

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he's not even in my top ten
all tip. So to be in a

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goat conference sation disrespectful. No,
it's not. I can easily name ten

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players that are that I will put
over him, over him, all time,

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all time, all time, continue, because he's a top seventy five.

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He's a top seventy five, and
so it is Dame Lillard and he's

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done nothing either. Right, I'm
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top seventy five, listen, the
top seventy five is in the eye of

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the beholder. No, I'm saying
that this is gonna say about that.

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And this is why I was huffing
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It's people get accolades and then we're
like, well, what has this person

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done. Let's look over their resume, and then it depends on how you

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feel about that person, how you
code it. I feel like somebody like,

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if the only thing that we're holding
against KD, how many championships does

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he know? I'm not done.
I'm not finished, and I'm not holding

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him joining the Warriors. He hasn't
let any team to a title, even

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though he's had the best lineups the
past ten years. He has I will

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He's had stacked teams and has not
led them to a title. He's not

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a leader. He's not a batman. He's not a superman. I mean,

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he's a prolific scorer. Absolutely,
He's a closer. He has clutch

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Jeans. But KD is no Michael, He's no Lebron, He's no Steph

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Curry, he's no Magic, he's
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Okay, he's none of those.
He's no Kareem. They're six. He's

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no Tim Duncan. That seven,
right, there's seven players that I would

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take in a goat debate over KD
twice on Sunday. He's no Hakeem Elijahwan.

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Okay, Keim was a killer.
You better ask them about I say

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saying that when it goes down,
KD will be one of the best player

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from his position, arguably the best
to play his position. He's a small

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forward, right, so I arguably
him and Scotty Pippin tip for tat.

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I might go with Scotty because Scotty
actually played defense. He's one defensive players

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of the Year. Right, He's
six and on the finals. Right.

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And Scotty at least carried his team
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the conference finals. He couldn't get
it done, right, he couldn't get

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it done, but he took his
team there. Kevin Durant has yet to

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take his team anywhere after losing and
blowing a three to one lead to the

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Golden State Warriors. KD, you
are a great player, but you are

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not in the goat debate and you
never will be. I'm gonna just sit

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here and say this. I'm gonna
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but I agree I agree with a
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I to me, KD is in
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I'll say this, with all Golden
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Ain't no problem, I'm sorry,
ain't no kids, don't use or

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ain't no probably to it? No, probably to it. And they got

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lucky because never mind, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, ahead,

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go ahead. They got lucky because
KD would have three if he didn't

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get injured. Okay, but if
he stayed with OKC, they would still

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be here now talking about who's the
problem, him or Russ. We blamed

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Russ and saw KD try to lead
a team and couldn't lead a team.

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Kd's on his fourth team. Goats
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Okay, Michael did it with one
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Lebron did it with Cleveland, Miami, went back to Cleveland, and

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then went to the Lakers. At
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KD was in his prime, flip
flopping from team the team. Goats don't

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do that if he wants the goat
crown. Here's how I would put him

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in the goat debate. Again.
I'm saying, arguably the best player in

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his position, small forward of all
time, arguably Scottie Pippen. Like I

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said different that I'm gonna go with
Scott Kevin Durant. If he was to

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go back to OKAC and deliver them
a title, I would then consider him

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in the goat debate, but he
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Michael. Not even name Kobe,
I mean name Kobe, because Kobe for

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me is not Kobe for me is
not in the goat debate either. This

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was in his life and in his
death. Rest in peace, Kobe.

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Kobe was a great player, but
he is not in my goalt conversation.

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The goat conversation, when it comes
down to it is between Lebron James.

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I'm sorry, it is between Michael
Jordan and Lebron ja. It's debatable.

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No I'm saying, I gotta have
a follow up. It's debatable, but

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Kevin Durant, you're not considered.
Okay, go ahead, I mean no,

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hey, go off, Stephen B
go off. I mean, like

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I said before, I mean I
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like this, To be honest with
you, is because Katie's a great player,

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great shoot, great shooter. He's
one of the all excuse me,

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top seventy five, like he he
fifty fifty ninety fifty forty ninety guy I

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think a couple of times, and
like he is one of the greatest players

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of all time. Unfortunately, the
decisions that he's made has put this cloud

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over him where he's not in that
conversation. And like you said, if

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he was to go back to Okay
See, he has to. I will

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say this, he does have to
right his wrongs, and one of his

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right and his wrong will be going
to Kate Okay See and then winning the

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championship there. And I think,
to be honest with you, this is

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never gonna happen. Though I don't
think it's gonna happen, but I think

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it's it's not gonna happen because he
is still trying to quote unquote lead a

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team. And if he were to
go to Okay, see right now,

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he was playing second fiddle to s
KA I mean s GK. I mean

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Ant had to do it to Kyrie. No, he didn't. He he

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came in and he was king,
he was king. But Kyrie still ran

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that offense. If Marie doesn't steal
that ball, it's still Lebron, John,

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thank you. No trying to give
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Because I like Lebron. The difference
is I'm objective when it comes to Lebron.

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I like Lebron, but the bottom
line is Lebron as clutch as he

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can be. He does the first
way too much to be a superstar.

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He and I will say this,
The thing about Lebron is his presence.

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You have to adjust to him.
He makes it for better, he makes

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people bad. But that's the whole
other conversation. But my thing is this.

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I said before, it's to me

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is hard because I like, I
genuinely like KD. I genuinely like him.

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I like he's not with the Warriors
Jesus Christy. But it makes the

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decisions he's made in his career has
put him in this position, and so

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until he leads the team to a
championship or go back to Oka see and

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and go to a championship there,
it's not gonna happen. This is not

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gonna happen. Agreed. Let me
ask you this question though. Yeah,

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here's here's my other question going about
this discussion. Got said before you have

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a debate where you got two people
Michael Jordan, Lebron James. But then

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you have a discussion where it brings
in three, four five. Mount Rushmore

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is four people? Yep? Who
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Okay? I always can you always
say I tapped dance. I prefaced this

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by saying I started watching basketball in
the late eighties. I was about seven

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or eight years old. I start
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so still under ten. So I'm
gonna go from based on being a fan

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from nineteen ninety one to present.
Okay, really quickly, this is your

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list, brother, you ain't got
the zil. But I think it's fair

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to say that because as you mature
in sports talk, you learn that certain

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debates will never get you anywhere.
For example, y'all know I work with

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a lot of college students right in
their twenties, young teens, right,

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I'm about twenty years older than them. I don't debate sports because they've never

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seen Michael play. They've barely seen
Kobe play, right, so they have

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what they're They can't say Michael is
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All they have is highlights and really
really popular sneakers. So what I'm

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going to say is based on nineteen
ninety one to present. What is that

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twenty eleven, thirty years of watching
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Michael Jordan Okay, easy, Lebron, James, Tim duncan, say it,

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say it and keep it moving,
Shaquille O'Neill. Really, there's only

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four people on Mount Rushmore and those
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said to me, well, we're
gonna like if we want to do some

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no no, no. If we
wanted to do some dictator stuff like a

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former president and throw another person on
there and say there's gonna be five people

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on Mount Rushmore, then I would
add Steph Kurky. But since there's only

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four Michael Jordan, Lebron, James, Tim duncan, and Shaquille O'Neill.

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I'm surprised by the answer. What
are yours are Michael Jordan's Yep. Now,

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I'm gonna say it, Michael Jordan's
Oscar Robertson. That's just those two

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personal and then I'm gonna go Steph
Curry Wow Wow. I'm gonna go.

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I'm gonna go Shaquilla meo wow.
And give yourself a hand. I'm giving

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you permission to give yourself a hand. Tone, come to the mic for

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a second, because I don't want
people to hear you screaming in the FI.

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Yes, come to the mic,
though, because you want to hear

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it loud, and we want to
hear it clearly on the table, not

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from paper people. Yeah, and
you've been watching basketball since the seventies,

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right, I don't want to I
don't want to aid you. But in

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the mic. So Tone has been
a basketball guy since the eighties, but

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was born in the seventies, so
he understood it a little bit, right.

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So give us your ford. We
just want your four you can and

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you can get back to what you
were doing. Who is your four mile

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rushmore j M J bron Yep,
Magic m So And it's a it's a

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toss up with me between Kareem and
Will Hm because I was looking at some

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old old Wilt Chamberlain stats and his
stats are so NBA took is because of

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the era he lived in. He
had an insane quad double that I don't

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even believe in real, but the
fact that he revolutionized the way I'm a

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backup. I'm not gonna put I'm
not gonna put Kareem on there, and

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I'm not gonna put Will put Doctor
J real Doctor J inspired Mike, Right,

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you wouldn't he really He's the first
person to bring this freakball aspect into

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the league because there would be no
ABA if there was no Doctor Jack.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
so again I'm going to respond to a

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viewer that just typed in and said, interesting, no Magic. Remember my

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perspective is from ninety one on up. I got to appreciate Magic once in

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the NBA Final. What do number
one? Don't defend your stuff. I

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will say this. I'm not defending, but I'm responding to a comment.

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I watched Magic one time and he
was great. He was absolutely great.

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But Magic's career was not better than
Michaels. It was not better than Lebron's

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We're not just talking titles. It
was not better than Tim Duncans. It

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was not better than shacks. Where
did y'all p so much? Now?

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And the reason why I'm bringing at
that specifically because next to John Stockton,

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levery Bird has been the white boy
of the league. Now, going back

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to Dre's not everybody's been around to
see certain people. Me and one had

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a conversation that when you talk about
the top fifty, it was done during

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the timeframe that was pre Lebron,
So most cats who were in the fifty

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back then would most definitely not be
in the fifty now. And that's so

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true that they end up extending into
the top seventy five because you know,

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if certain names fell out that list, regardless of what the order they was

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in there, people will have a
fit. I thought they just added,

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you technically do add. That's why
I went from fifty to seventy five.

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But let's be honest, the top
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ten and two. Oh yeah,
that's definitely true. Yeah, that's true.

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That's true. Yeah, because with
him bringing up magic, uh huh,

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no, magic, that's interesting.
Well, you really can't put Magic

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in the conversation with conversation. That's
true. Here's my question, here's my

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answer for that, here's my answer
for that. I'm not, Yeah,

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I'm not. I'm not gonna sit
here because my thing is this your listens,

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your list like our listeners said my
thing about Magic Johnson on top of

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bird. That's one perspective of it, like you can't put one in without

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the other. And then some would
say the same thing without with Lebron,

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like you can't put Lebron in without
put without putting Steph in. But my

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thing about that is and to me, to me, my my four on

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my route Mount Rushmore are the people
who who captivated this game and we haven't

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seen anything like it since. To
me, Michael Jordan is something. He

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turned the whole world. He turns
basketball into something that it wasn't all the

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time. To me, now,
Oscar Robertson is somebody that I didn't see

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play basketball like that because he was
in the seventies and sixties. But to

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me, having an averaging a triple
double for a season and then it hasn't

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been done for what twenty eight thirty
years until Russell Rustbrook did it. Something

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like that is just so phenomenal,
and so Russell because because he did it

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first, Russell did it after.
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after Russ do it, I don't
know if it'll be ever done another thirty

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years. Like So that's that's my
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said, I said, Steph just
because he took the game to a whole

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nother level somewhere that it hasn't been
before, just for his position alone.

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now Shack again, somebody we haven't seen

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to this day shoot what he does
for his position. So that's why my

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four is my four. I don't
I don't take in consideration like stats and

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well you have to take a stattic
because it's racis, but championships and stuff

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like that, because Oscar Robertson only
has the one maybe two. So I

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just think that those four guys,
to me and my opinion, took the

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game to a whole nother level.
Now, Magic Johnson did, and like

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I said, if we were doing
five, I probably would put Magic in

405
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:34.599
there. But the thing about Magic
and Bird, I would say this Bird,

406
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:39.680
maybe because he was white, didn't
captivate audiences like magic, did he

407
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:44.359
He did, hold on second,
hold hold on second, though, to

408
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:50.759
the point, to the point,
his first name is not magic. But

409
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:58.519
you when the last time you heard
somebody say Irvin? Okay, okay,

410
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:06.839
number one. Until the introduction of
the ABA incorporated into the NBA, NBA

411
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.679
was pure white. Okay, it
was Bob's white as his damn table.

412
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:15.800
Okay. But the thing about it
is is once people like La and Bird

413
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:20.280
and all then was dominating the league. They were looking for their white hope,

414
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.000
their white savors, their person that
can ball. Larry Bird and the

415
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:31.000
Boston Celtics was a prime example of
what organized NBA basketball looked like. When

416
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:37.400
I tell you, people in Boston
would riot over that boy, okay,

417
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:43.800
he he he. I don't care
to. I'm not a person who judges

418
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.280
you by your color. I judge
you by your skill. I have my

419
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:51.400
moments where I don't like certain people
who just happened to be of a color.

420
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:57.079
Okay, but I don't judge you
by that. But but when it

421
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.239
comes to Bird, his game was
unstoppable, bro, he was so you

422
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.920
there would not be a big interest
in the NBA if you did not have

423
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:12.599
that l A Boston rivalry and that
La Boston rivalry existed because of Bird.

424
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:19.599
LA was stacked back then. La
La has always been somewhat stacked. Boston

425
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.320
has never really been stacked until they
did the Peers KG years and even then

426
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:28.719
that's still a questionable stack. But
Bird was it was Bird. It was

427
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.199
it was and dudes, it was
Bird and some dudes. I'm ask you

428
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.960
a question though, because what I
said was words are important. Is that

429
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:43.119
I said Magic captivated? Which is
you know, brought audience? Like who

430
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.199
is this dude behind the back loop? The loop and such and such and

431
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.639
such? Like you said, the
boy themselves is very fundamental. They know

432
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.559
how to play the game. They're
how to play it right. It was

433
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.039
Bird a bunch of dude. But
I just feel like with Bird, Magic

434
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:59.400
and the whole show time, it
was like, Okay, I ain't never

435
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.639
seen them. You ain't never seen
You want to know the reason why Magic

436
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.000
caught everybody's attention On a pretty stacked
team. You had a six to eight

437
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:14.360
point guard out the door. It's
already Uh, what is this dude doing.

438
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.320
You're talking about a league where a
certain size automatically put you in.

439
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.920
You too, had a whole conversation
about if you under sixty three, you

440
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:30.079
can't be a shooting guard. Yeah
you did, you did, so now

441
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:35.000
you can't guard a shooting guard.
That was in relations to Bronnie James,

442
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.360
who is about six stree like a
year, a season or two ago.

443
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:45.400
I remember this. Yeah, y'all
had a whole little argument about the height

444
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.480
of a shooting guard because I guess
it was all start weekend, and y'all

445
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.360
was talking about how certain people were
been putting on certain levels, like he

446
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:57.159
too short to be a shooting guard. Yeah it was step, it was

447
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.840
I had a new step but that
but that's the proven point, Like,

448
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:05.440
we have a certain height requirement and
a skill set that is tied to point

449
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.320
guards. And here's this six'
eight dude who could technically be in any

450
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:14.159
position or running the floor. Let's
see what he does. Whereas in you

451
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:19.400
had a Boston Celtics team who literally
went out there and dominated the game.

452
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:25.119
Because you gotta remember, let Larry
Bird came in after this thirteen championship run.

453
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:35.280
Boston Celtics was rebuilding, and just
like Lebron and Carmelo, Bird and

454
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.440
Magic came out the exact same time, so they were the instant comparison.

455
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:46.000
So you can't do magic without doing
bird bro converts even bought like, look,

456
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:49.639
we give you a shoe, We're
gonna give you the same shoe too,

457
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.440
but it's gonna be two different colors, and we're gonna see what shoe

458
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:58.880
sells better. Is that not what
they did? Shoo? What was your

459
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.280
what was greed? We live with
a color waves, a colorway, but

460
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.920
they gave you the same shoot.
Yeah, so so they even they know

461
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.360
marketing. Why y'all two go together. Yeah. So I'm gonna say this

462
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:16.519
about we appreciate, We appreciate that, we appreciate, appreciate the history.

463
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:22.840
One of the things that I'm gonna
say is, you know when you look

464
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.480
at the Mount Rushmoores, Michael changed
the game. Well, I mean,

465
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.480
why did you list your list?
My list is my list because clearly Michael

466
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:36.320
Jordan is sonontymous with basketball. When
you think about wrestling, you think about

467
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:37.880
Hall Kovied, Right, you think
about Steve Auston, you think about the

468
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:43.159
Rock. Right. When you think
about hockey, you think about Wayne Gretzky.

469
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.519
You only think about Wayne. When
you think about baseball, you think

470
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:53.159
about Hank Aaron. You think about
Babe Ruth, you think about Mark McGuire,

471
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:57.920
you think about some of the other
heavy hitters that change the game.

472
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:04.679
Right when you think about soccer Payley
right, you know every sport has players

473
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:10.159
that are synonymous. Michael Jordan is
on there because it's Michael, no explanations

474
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:15.360
needed. Lebron is on there for
a lot of reasons, but more importantly

475
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.440
because he did. He came out
of high school and changed the game.

476
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:24.199
Okay, leron Okay, and he's
the first player that will have forty thousand

477
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.199
career points when it's all said and
done. He broke a record that sat

478
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:36.159
there for thirty years. Tim Duncan
is the greatest power forward to ever play

479
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:45.679
the game why and he did it
fundamentally. He wasn't flashy one team and

480
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.800
Shack is because, like you said, no big man has ever dominated the

481
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:55.760
way Shaq was. Imagine if Shaq
was fifty or sixty pounds lighter and in

482
00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:00.400
what he would have done, he
probably would have played well beyond his years.

483
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:05.239
So for me, I mean not
that Mount Rushmore needs to be explained,

484
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.559
because if you ask fifty people,
you'll get fifty different answers. I

485
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:14.400
can respect the commentary on Larry Bird
because Larry Bird was Steph Curry before Steph

486
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:19.239
Kirk. True, okay, and
he was crazy and he played d and

487
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.079
he wasn't a punk, and he
wasn't with this buddy Buddy ball crap.

488
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:28.480
Larry Bird didn't become Buddy Buddy Ball
into USA. And if you watch that

489
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:34.599
US end of his career, if
you watch that usay marketing tape or marketing

490
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:40.039
stuff, you see Jordan with the
ball, Larry on Michael's left shoulder and

491
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:45.760
Magic on the right. Magic.
Johnson has gone on the record playfully but

492
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:52.320
saying people like he said, Michael
Jordan is the reason I retired from basketball

493
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:58.440
because I got tired of chasing him
around. But like I said, you

494
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:05.679
know, everybody's stuff is different,
So I'll say that. Congratulations to the

495
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:13.639
AFC champions Kings Chiefs for defeating the
Baltimore Ravens. No, no, no,

496
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.679
no, we got to get I
need to say this seventeen. Let's

497
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:22.480
go get the Packers. Get out
of here. Man, it was the

498
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:28.199
boys. Listen, we're taking applications
for a Packer fans. So, if

499
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.039
you want to let go, if
you want to let go of the culture

500
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:36.760
for love here, if you want
to let go of the losing culture known

501
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.320
as the Dallas Collboys. We welcome
you. Listen. Listen. As a

502
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.199
Packer fan, I had to fill
out a Jordan Love apology for him because

503
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:51.039
I didn't believe the height. It
was my good friend Terence Slaughter who's watching,

504
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.599
and said, bro, calm down. He said, you gotta give

505
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:59.360
people a chance to be great.
Man. What I'm saying, That's what

506
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:06.039
I mean. How you're such a
hater. I'm just let's move on.

507
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.960
So if you really want to send
a congratulations, let's congratulate the NBA All

508
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:17.519
Stars started renamed this week. Let's
let's give that a congratulations. So you

509
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:22.159
go. And I have a question. Did Dame make it out of votes

510
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.880
or did they pick him because Halliburton
was injured? No, he was.

511
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.159
He was picked beside Halliburton. Oh
so he ended up edging out Halliburton.

512
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:36.039
He have been at two guards,
so you can only pick three because Trey

513
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:43.280
Young got it right. Halliburton the
Dame also he edged out Trey Okay,

514
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.480
wow, So after every well,
first of all, let me go ahead

515
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.960
and Andre be quiet, not chiefs. I will not be quiet. You

516
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:57.639
know that church song. I will
not be silent. Yeah. Say so

517
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:02.519
we have the NBA All Star Starter
they've been named this year, Like I

518
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.559
said, like Andre was just talking
about, we got Hallan Burton, he

519
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.960
got Dame. For the East,
we got Hallibert, Tyrese Halibert, Damian

520
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:22.199
Lillard, Giannis and mb Joel Embi
that center. And then we got who's

521
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:30.599
the other guy? That's why,
that's why Damon lies uh jis oh Jason

522
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.320
Tatum, I know we were forgetting
somebody. And then for the West,

523
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:40.639
we have Lebron James. No surprise, there's a popularity contest. Lebron James.

524
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:49.320
We got Joker, we have Luca, and we have who's the third

525
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:55.280
guy? Oh, Gilbert Alexander.
Yea, so we got Luca, Gilbert,

526
00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:02.559
Alexander, Lebron James, excuse me, Joker, And who's the fifth

527
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:09.400
guy? You throwing me off?
I'm not you throw me off. It's

528
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:17.000
Lebron, It's Joker. He s
g a Okay, here it is Luca

529
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:23.719
is Luca s g A Joker?
And then Kevin Durant and Lebron James,

530
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:28.840
the guy who you're arguing that should
be a goat you forgot. He was

531
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:32.760
the most forgettable one. I said, I don't like it, but it's

532
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.079
true, and I agree with you. Okay, So here's the thing.

533
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:44.480
Every year, every time this year
it's some snuffs. Word on the street

534
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:51.800
is Jalen, there's some what word
on the street is? Before I he

535
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.519
some what there's always some snubs.
What he's done. Well, I thought

536
00:44:55.599 --> 00:45:01.639
you was gonna say what you typ
type stuff. Well, here's it's a

537
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:06.920
couple of there's a couple of storylines
come out of here. Well we'll say

538
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:09.599
that question for bucks talk. You
know why, you know why he's not

539
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.480
that, But he did get some
votes, so let's put that out there.

540
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:16.800
He got some votes. So okay, couple, here's the thing we

541
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:21.320
got. Number one, did Jalen
Brunston get snoup? Let's start there.

542
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.440
Number that's number one. Number two, Steph Curry hasn't been a This is

543
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:29.519
the first time Steph Curry hasn't been
a starter since twenty fourteen, ever since

544
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:32.280
he's been since twenty fourteen. And
this is crazy. That is crazy.

545
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:35.480
No, but I will say this
here. What I want to say about

546
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:39.239
that. I think when you when
we read the names last week and you

547
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:44.079
said Steph Curry was up, I'm
like, Steph Curry's up. He hasn't

548
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:45.960
been having a great year. I'm
sorry, he just hasn't happen having a

549
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:52.360
great year. And the ways what's
that team, the way Golden State is

550
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.559
looking, I don't think he deserves
one, to be honest with you,

551
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.000
So so I just need you to
say is a first ball. Let's answer.

552
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:06.239
The first question is did Jalen Brunson
get snub? No? Here's why

553
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:14.000
there are There are no snubs in
the All Star starters because fans get to

554
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.599
pick, So there are no snubs. There are no no, no,

555
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:22.559
no, no no, because it
is about popularity, not stacks. Now,

556
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:28.519
if they took away the voting from
the fans, then we could judge

557
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:32.840
on snub get it wrong. The
fans can get it wrong, but the

558
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.800
All Star Game doesn't matter. So
the fans got it right. You get

559
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:43.679
no incentives other than cash and maybe
something on your record that says I'm an

560
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.800
All Star. So there are no
snubs. All of my starters made it,

561
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.800
with the exception of Trey Young.
Every single person that you mentioned except

562
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.360
were all on my lists except for
Day. I'm sorry. Insteah right,

563
00:46:54.440 --> 00:47:00.039
I had Steph over Luca Right.
So when you think about the starting lineup.

564
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:06.800
It sucks for Steph, but it's
a changing of a guard. Damian

565
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.360
benefited. One of the things that
the Milwaukee Bucks does very well. Shout

566
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:15.199
out to the Milwaukee Bucks organization.
I've experienced this firsthand as a season ticket

567
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:20.840
holder and a partner of the Bucks
through my employer. The Milwaukee Bucks fan

568
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:25.079
experience is one of the best in
the NBA. When they explained, so

569
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.960
when you go to games right like
have court shot, minute to win it

570
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:37.519
backwards eating cam right, the Milwaukee
Bucks market stair team very well. When

571
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:44.519
Dame Lillard hit his first game time
buzzer beater as a Milwaukee Bucks, the

572
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:49.599
first thing that popped up on the
big screen was scan here to vote for

573
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.320
the Bucks as your All Stars.
And what do you think people did in

574
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:58.400
that moment? Scan their phone and
start voting. Not only that, the

575
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:04.760
popularity of yani Is helped Dame catapult
into that. Dame has never been an

576
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:09.320
All Star starter. Yes, okay, the popularity of Yanis helped him get

577
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:13.639
there. Right, So if fans
can vote, then we can vote.

578
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:16.000
Like, don't tell me, that's
like the presidential election. Don't tell me

579
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:21.280
is wrong because you lost, you
know, what I'm saying, don't tell

580
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:24.079
me is wrong because you lost.
But same thing with votes. Don't tell

581
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.880
me that we got it wrong when
it's our choice. It's art like we

582
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:35.840
tolld about the what is it the
Mount Rushmore right, don't tell me we

583
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.400
got it wrong. One note on
that Mount Rushmore stuff one episode. I

584
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:42.440
love us for us to do this
because everyone can't be on Mount Rushmore.

585
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.400
I wanted to say this because Steph
is not on my Mount Rushmore twenty years.

586
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:49.639
Steph is my logo. Since he
can't be on my Mount Rushmore,

587
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.719
he's the logo. He replaces doctor
Jerry west Or he has some type of

588
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.360
award named after him. That's how
good Steph is to me, and that's

589
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.239
what he means to the game of
basketball. But back to the Y'all Star

590
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.719
game, don't get upset with me
because I didn't pick your favorite player.

591
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.480
Brunson will be a reserve absolute Stephan. Let me answer the question. Here's

592
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:13.280
my question. Yeah, are you
saying he deserves because I saw it silent

593
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:15.519
to me, you're saying it is
what it is. Don't beat don't don't

594
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:21.920
boohoo to me. I'm asking you, do you believe that Brunton should be

595
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.639
over Dame. I didn't pick him, so now I didn't pick that.

596
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:30.880
We do have a local Knicks fan
in the building. They're trash, who

597
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.639
are trash. Their history is trash. I'm sorry, and they'll let him

598
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:37.880
down. And he quit the Knicks, so we don't want his opinion.

599
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:43.400
He quit the He quit the Knicks
like a bitter like a bitter ex you

600
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:47.679
know. He he ain't going back
right to what he quit the Knicks.

601
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.599
So we love him, but he
can't come and he hates the Knicks.

602
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:58.840
Although that that that that overly,
I just question there is a certain comment

603
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:00.400
I have a question. There's before
you ask them. There is a certain

604
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:05.800
commentary that's picking them to go to
the Eastern Conference Finals. Now number one,

605
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.480
I know who you're talking about.
I think he said the words are

606
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:14.119
important. They have what it takes
to be in the Eastern Conference podcast.

607
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.440
There you go. Words are important. They had what it takes to be

608
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:21.760
an Eastern Conference Finals. I when
they were talking about this last night before

609
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:28.400
the game. I think that the
Knicks are in a they're in a position

610
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:37.320
where their relevance is has catapulted to
where they're in the top five, top

611
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:39.880
five in the East. Now this
is this is not a sprint, this

612
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:43.599
is a marathon. So it's not
It may not happen this year, it

613
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.000
may not happened next year, but
I do believe it's going to happen.

614
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:51.320
Them picking up O G. What
was something special? They've been twelve and

615
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.159
two since they picked them up.
So they pick up. To me,

616
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:58.800
you get rid of Randall, you
pick up one more superstar. My god.

617
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.559
Uh, basketball is back in New
York City. I'll just leave that

618
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:09.679
there now. Charles Barkley. Charles
Barkley said something. He said trut me.

619
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:17.000
He said that the Jalen Brunson has
made the Knicks hasn't been Uh.

620
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:21.440
He's the first player to make the
New York Niggas relevant since Patrick Ewing.

621
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:29.320
M Armelo made him relevant. He
just didn't do anything for them exactly.

622
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:35.039
So with that being said, you
have to take Carmelo out. Jason Brunce

623
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.679
is not only making them look good
that they winning. I don't care about

624
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.159
you. You know your name,
your name. He just over there making

625
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:45.400
business deals too. To me,
Carmelo over there making business deals. I'm

626
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:50.519
saying Jaylen Brunt said winning because when
when when Patrick Ewing with the Knicks.

627
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.360
They was winning, they was going
to the Eastern Conference finals, you know.

628
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:54.599
Unfortunately, Jordan was like no,
no, no, no, no

629
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:58.000
no, this is my stuff,
and they was like, oh, okay.

630
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:01.119
Cool. So with that statement being
said, I was going to ask

631
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:05.760
the local Nicks fan but apparently former
local Knicks fan, and how do you

632
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.840
how do you feel about this?
Is that true? No comments, no

633
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:15.400
comment, I'll ask Huger, I'll
kick it to you, then to me,

634
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:19.320
to me, to be really honest
with you, this is no Like

635
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:22.280
I said, he played for the
Bugs. Now a couple of things,

636
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:27.000
but Dame, this was working in
Dame favor. Number one, that last

637
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.719
second shot to be sacrament so that
definitely working in your favor. And trash

638
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:35.960
he had. He's had a couple
of those too. That's number one buzza.

639
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:37.840
That was his first buzzer beaters.
That was the first buzzer beater.

640
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:44.840
But he had some. He has
clutch clutch shot two minutes after the game,

641
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.079
I mean two minutes in the fourth
quarter is Dame time. You always

642
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:52.719
say that anyway, but check this
out now. So you got that last

643
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.719
second buzzer beating that helped him out
and then on top of that, I

644
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:59.920
think Day may not be in a
big market, but he's in a viewable

645
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.360
market. Portland was playing after nine
o'clock, ten o'clock. It was it's

646
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.639
hard to see them. Milwaukee's not
a big market, but it's a championship

647
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:12.199
market. I'll give you that word. Championship market, and we have because

648
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.519
of Yiannis. You're right, a
lot of more eyes are on him now

649
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.599
because of Gianna's Yeah, and we're
playing He's playing six o'clock, seven o'clock

650
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.519
at night. So THEA hasn't played
on Christmas since ever? Yeah, has

651
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:27.760
he ever got a Christmas Day game? I think they have maybe once or

652
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.760
maybe once. But like I said
before, Portland playing in Portland, you

653
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:36.639
play at night time, late at
night, like Sacramento type stuff. So

654
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:38.320
that's why I'm like, well,
you got a lot more eyes on you.

655
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.920
But I do would say this,
Jalen Brunston is having a phenomenal season.

656
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:47.559
So with that being said, should
he have got the notch? This

657
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:52.280
is the second second one he played
in twenty eighteen, second one Christmas Day?

658
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:57.280
Oh okay, but yeah, his
So I'm just kind of like,

659
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.880
maybe to me, it could have
win either way. It could have win

660
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:07.000
either way, but I think brust
and overall is having a better season than

661
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:10.800
Dame. Oh to be honest with
you, Dame Trey, there's many that

662
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.000
should have gotten it, but you
we can't make those choices because you get

663
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.639
to vote. Now. I see
on here you put All Star snubs.

664
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.840
We can't, we can't. I
can't wait till we talk about the All

665
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:27.800
Star snubs because there will be a
lot. Oh, there will be a

666
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:30.400
lot. I well, I asked
for the because people feel like the starting

667
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:32.800
five. Some people got snubbed in
the starting five. Oh yeah, And

668
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:36.639
that's why I brought it up.
I mean, like you said before,

669
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.400
when when they announced the reserves again, there's gonna be some more snubs.

670
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:43.679
But I just wanted to bring the
conversation just for the starting five. But

671
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:45.800
I do want to ask this question
now as far as like who, because

672
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.920
last week we talked about your starting
five. Who is your starting five?

673
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.239
So who would be your reserve for
your stars? I mean for your who

674
00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:00.199
all Star reserves? So I'll pick
five because I don't want to go through

675
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:07.159
every position. Yeah, two yards
too forwards in the center on the Eastern

676
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:15.800
conference. I would probably say oh, man, I need a roster because

677
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.840
there's a lot of players. Well, okay, I'll name some people who

678
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:25.159
weren't starters ahead, Derek White,
not on my reserve, Donovan Mitchell.

679
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:32.920
So I need to see a full
list. Uh, possibly go next Brown?

680
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:37.719
Yes, so no Donovan Mitchell.
You said no, Dole Mitchell,

681
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.400
you say, yeah, I need
to hear more note of it. Maybe

682
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:45.440
maybe Jylen Brown for sure, Jaylen
Brown for sure? Yes, so the

683
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:54.440
guards right there? So no Mitchell, we got forwards, Randall for the

684
00:55:54.480 --> 00:56:00.280
Knicks. Possibly who else you got? We got in the Eastern Conference?

685
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:12.000
You want to go list just a
lot? Yes, Now, I would

686
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.039
say he's a guard though it don't
have to be. It don't have to

687
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.039
does not have to be two forwards, two guards to senates, it don't

688
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:20.599
have to be. So so here
here, here's what I'll say. I'll

689
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:27.639
I'll give you. I'll give you
three players from each conference that should be

690
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:35.000
reserves for sure, starting with the
West, Steph Curry, Anthony Edwards,

691
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:38.960
and Kawhi Leonard. Those should be
reserves right there. For me, I'm

692
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:44.000
gonna give you three from the West
and three from the East. East Brunting

693
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:53.280
for sure, Trey Young, Bam
out of Bio or Maxie. I will

694
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:55.960
be okay with either one. I'll
give you three and three because it's too

695
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.360
hard without seeing the full list.
So I'll give you three. So West,

696
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:07.960
Steph Edwards, and Kawhi, Eastern
Conference, Brunson for sure, Spam

697
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.599
out of Bio and Tarre's Maxie.
You know, I want you to do

698
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:13.679
the triggers out because I'm finna.
I have some, but I want you

699
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:16.880
to do this because this is my
help. Okay, look at Well.

700
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.599
I have something here that says what
a possible reserve might be. No,

701
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:22.880
I want you to look at the
Eastern Conference because you look at the team

702
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:27.519
and it kind of sparks sparks some
stuff. Because I got this is what

703
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:32.840
I got full the West. I
have Jamal Murray, I have Anthony Edwards,

704
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:40.400
I have Townsend, Karl Anthony Towns, I got Darren Fox, I

705
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.639
got that Brook. I don't think
that's gonna make it this year. You

706
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:47.639
don't think I'm gonna make it this
year. I can see him not making

707
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:51.840
it, but because his team,
because his team is in the top of

708
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:57.239
this top, Rudy will make it
over him. No watch, no watch,

709
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:04.119
defensively. Yes, yes, Rudy
and Rudy and make it over Cat

710
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:10.960
watch Jesus Christ watch okay, and
then town oh and then is that four

711
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.320
mm hmmm? And then like you
said, Kawhi, and who else you

712
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:20.039
said? You said somebody else?
I said, Kahi, Anthony Edwards,

713
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:23.840
Steph I said, Steph Curry,
and Steph Curry. No, no,

714
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:29.119
no, Paul George, I'm Paul
George. He ain't gonna make it because

715
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:30.880
Kawhi gonna make it. So you
gotta give it to both of them.

716
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:36.920
To remember it's only twelve, so
they can only pick seven players. I

717
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:42.239
gave you five, okay, you
want to need me five? Five Steph,

718
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:50.000
Anthony Edwards, Kawhi, Rudy Gobert, and Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis,

719
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:54.920
I gonna make it. You're gonna
make it. Name second long and

720
00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:00.400
let's not listen name out there.
When Anthony plays Anthony play, you know

721
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.360
how big that it is? That
it is the size of this room.

722
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.760
That's that's how big. You know, if he played what say, I

723
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:10.440
was a fit, we all be
drunk. If it was Anthony David,

724
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:14.639
you'd be drunk seven days a week, exactly. It's a two leader.

725
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:16.719
It's a too leader, not a
not a fit. If it was a

726
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:21.599
too leader, we all be drunk, so to me, And you can

727
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:25.119
actually pick seven players because each it's
twelve. For rosters, it gets seven.

728
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:30.440
But on the East Brunson, I'm
gonna just pick five, Bawn,

729
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:37.000
Maxy, Trey Young, and I
would even probably say Perzingis. But I

730
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.159
would probably give it to Randall,
even though he sucks as a as a

731
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:44.400
teammate. I think that's a person
he sucks, but play wise I'll get

732
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:46.760
hopefully he's not. On the East, well, here's the other parts to

733
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:51.880
remember, Brunson still might get the
starting now because Halli Burden might not be

734
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.360
available to play. I know,
but that's that's you know, I hate.

735
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:59.000
I ain't say I hate that,
but it's not a starter starter you

736
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:02.360
just like there. They even announced
that the game in place of Tyree Holler

737
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:07.719
Bird Jayleen Bron saying like, oh
god, well, I actually would be

738
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.239
the person with the next amount of
boats. And then on top I think

739
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:15.280
it was I don't know, I
don't know, but so for me it

740
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:23.039
then on the East of Brown,
Jaylen Brown, Tyree's Maxi, Jaylen Bronson,

741
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:31.840
Rando Mitchell. Bam, I'm going
Tyler, I'm not giving it a

742
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:36.639
Jimmy. He missed many games,
all right to me personally, and then

743
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:40.079
that's it. Let's go Detroit Lions. So I mean, my my thing

744
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:44.320
is like again, we'll probably bring
this up again when they have when they

745
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:51.280
do snub, when they do select
the whole, I believe they'll be picking

746
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:55.440
the reserves like right the week before
the game, really to the To be

747
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.480
honest with you, the most exciting
thing this is the first year. I'm

748
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.199
not looking at the dunk contest this
is but this, this three point contest

749
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:07.760
is gonna be something very interesting.
I believe they're going to have the women

750
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:13.480
w n B a player. This
is a good stuff. So I forgot

751
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:15.360
her name. I can't think of
her name right now, but I think

752
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:19.199
she's gonna be competing against Steph.
And then Damn said he's gonna participate in

753
01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:22.719
the three point contest. Crown.
You're gonna defend this crown. So it

754
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:25.400
should be very interesting. Just for
that. A Loon All Stars will be

755
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:32.039
revealed next this Thursday. This Thursday, this Thursday at seven o'clock on So

756
01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.360
okay, I gonna say, bro, come on well, I'm like,

757
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:37.639
I know that wasn't me. I
know I'm loud, but I can really

758
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:42.519
hear myself out. But no,
the All Star Game will be on inside

759
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:45.400
the NBA this Thursday. They will
reveal the reserves, so make sure you

760
01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:57.239
watch watch So then we'll we'll discuss
who got snub completely next week. Now

761
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:05.039
let's get to the criminal cram Bucks
talk this week. This is there's been

762
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.840
a lot of Milwaukee Bucks talk,
some for good reasons, some for bad

763
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:14.039
reason. But isn't a lot of
Bucks talk just because our coach after thirty

764
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:20.559
three and ten, Adrian Griffin,
has been fired and replaced with Doc Rivers

765
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:24.519
a couple of things. Let's just
get this out the way. Nobody,

766
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:29.519
hold up, before you say it. If you go back to last week's

767
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:36.199
episode, I said, and I
quote, the coach has got to go.

768
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.000
I don't think you said that.
Oh I absolutely said it. Then

769
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:44.400
before you say that, Before you
say that, nobody in the city Milwaukee

770
01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:47.000
was surprised. They shouldn't. Everybody
outside the city was like, man,

771
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:50.840
that's crazy, wod tell you why? Once we get to it, go

772
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:53.880
ahead, nobody was Nobody outside nobody
in Milwaukee was like, wow, that's

773
01:02:53.880 --> 01:03:00.039
surprising. That's number one, number
two, this whole situation, this was

774
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:06.760
okay, this is what I heard
from WOAJ. The the Bucks, Milwaukee

775
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:09.280
Bucks when they first got Adrian Griffin. They got Adrian Griffin because they because

776
01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:15.079
Joannice did not want Nick Nurse.
They also got them because No. I

777
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:19.480
think that's a good move. I
respect him for voice in his opinion.

778
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:23.760
A couple of things we have when
they signed him, we did not sign

779
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:29.440
Chris Middleton yet, we did not
sign Brook Lopez yet, we did not

780
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.480
have the roster that we have now, and we didn't have Dame left.

781
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:37.159
I like that. You keep on
saying that that's I do. So I

782
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:40.719
feel like I feel I'm not saying
that Adrianne Griffin was set up a failure.

783
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:45.760
I'm just saying I don't because they
think people saying are saying he got

784
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:51.039
a bad rep due to this situation. I just feel like the man they

785
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:54.400
weren't the Bucks start were kind of
moving on the fly and so they weren't

786
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:59.320
prepared for it. And on top
of that, Yannis hadn't signed long term.

787
01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:04.079
So I feel like that Adrian Griffin
didn't get he didn't get set up

788
01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:09.880
for the Oakie Dough. I just
feel like maybe we didn't. We weren't

789
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:15.400
expecting all this stuff to come together
as the time went by. Now I

790
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:21.719
want to say this too, the
Bucks is very few times the fans and

791
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:28.719
the organization are on the same page. I've been sitting here saying for weeks

792
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:32.920
it just doesn't look right and something
has to change. And I went from

793
01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:38.039
coaching to the rotation to maybe we
need another player, maybe we need to

794
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:41.239
make some trades, blah blah blah
blah blah, And I don't feel like

795
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:45.159
all of this is put on the
coach. I came across some stats and

796
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:50.639
statistics that was like, was it
Adrian Griffin's fault? So the first question

797
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:58.239
for you, Dre is should the
Bucks have let him ride the whole season?

798
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.800
Up? Don't you do that?
Because I got it? I got

799
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:09.159
it. Okay, Okay, okay, okay, I just want to should

800
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:12.119
have let him ride the whole season? Now? Or was this the right

801
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:21.039
move? If I hire you to
do a job and you do it well

802
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:26.800
part of the time and not circumstance
change, Okay, this is what I'm

803
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:32.639
gonna say. Adrian Griffin was in
over his head. He should have never

804
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:41.719
had the job. Hold us,
let the ouzi off, let it off.

805
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:45.880
He has never been an assistant head
coach, he has never been an

806
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:53.719
interim head coach. And he worked
under who was coaching under Nick Nurse.

807
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:59.480
Okay, Nick Nurse as good as
he is. You didn't want Nick Nurse,

808
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:01.320
but you wanted his backup? No, no, no, no,

809
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:06.760
he said he didn't want Nick Nurse. Hop out, Yannis had a choice.

810
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:12.480
I want to throw out an interesting
fact and then I'll get to your

811
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:18.880
question. Since Jannis has been with
our team and the man, we've had

812
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:26.679
six head coaching changes and we're still
paying for three of them. We are.

813
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:31.599
We've had Jason Kidd, We've had
wait, we had Larry Drew.

814
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:36.679
Remember Larry fired after one season,
which he should have because he's stunk.

815
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:43.280
We had Alvin Party, the guy
who's the interim head coach right now.

816
01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:48.960
He got canned after one season a
couple months. No, yeah, it

817
01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:58.199
was early. We had Jason Kidd, who I think helped make Jannis into

818
01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:00.760
the player that he is. I
don't think Jason gets enough credit for Giannis's

819
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:05.599
development. He put his book.
I'm not a Jason fan, but he

820
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:12.360
gets some credit. Then it was
Bud who I think we were hard on

821
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:16.400
this call up. Let me finish. This is karma, This is karma.

822
01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:19.320
We are part of that. I
was. I said it was hard

823
01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:25.760
on them. It was hard when
it came to fire Buck. You listen,

824
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:30.400
man. Then we had Griffin.
This is what I'll say to this

825
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:32.360
and I'll let you they say what
you need to say. I answer the

826
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:39.360
question, but yeah, go ahead. The Bucks were absolutely right. I

827
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:44.559
don't care if we were thirty five
and five because here's why, America listen

828
01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:46.760
to me and listen to me good. If you look at the Bucks schedule

829
01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:54.960
from this thirty and thirteen, the
Bucks had the second easiest schedule to start

830
01:07:55.280 --> 01:08:01.199
the season. We went four to
one against the Pace. We're losing by

831
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:05.800
we're losing to the Pistons. We're
beating them by four. We're playing no

832
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:11.239
defense. We went from number two
to number twenty seven. Yes, well

833
01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:15.439
go You don't have Drew Holiday.
One player doesn't change the whole defensive scheme.

834
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:20.159
You had Yiannis who was not respecting
you, changing plays in the lineup,

835
01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:25.840
not coming out the game. Bobby
fort Is, who is mild mannered,

836
01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:30.840
snapping on you in the locker room, We sat on the floor two

837
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:36.760
weeks ago Bobby double double, Cameron
Payne couldn't miss, and you bitched him

838
01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:42.560
for Pat Connington, who went oh
and something and still played in the game.

839
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:47.079
The hard part of the Bucks schedule
has yet to begin. This is

840
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.680
the second half. We have the
Clippers twice, the Lakers twice, Voden

841
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:56.399
State one more time, right,
Phoenix twice. We have a hard schedule

842
01:08:56.520 --> 01:09:01.479
coming Upton Boston. And if you're
trying to build a championship pedigree, I

843
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:06.720
don't necessarily think Doc was the guy. You have to have experience, and

844
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:12.039
Griffin did not have experience. He
looked like he didn't know what he was

845
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:15.319
doing out there. Now. I
hope he gets an opportunity again. But

846
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.119
go coach a scrub team and let's
see what you can do. Go coach

847
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:24.159
the Pistons like Manty Brown is doing. Manty Brown. People say, well,

848
01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:29.000
you didn't get fired. He's a
Detroit. Washington just fired their coach

849
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:32.479
too. You know what I'm saying, Brown, Manti Brown? Is it

850
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:39.119
Manti Brown? Isn't it Monty Brown? I don't know, Manji Matti Williams

851
01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:43.560
of the Williams. Thank you,
Manti Williams. If you look at Manti

852
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.159
Williams, he said, well he's
not fired, but Detroit is slowly getting

853
01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:56.680
better. Their losses aren't blowouts somebody. They are a piece or two away

854
01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:00.239
from figuring it out. The Bucks
should have been one. We should have

855
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:05.079
won the play in tournament, and
it was just too much drama surrounding that.

856
01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:09.439
So the Bucks did what they were
supposed to do. I feel bad

857
01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:13.920
because you never want a person to
lose a job. And I'll take a

858
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.119
page out of your book when we
talk about trading for Chris Middleton. When

859
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:21.239
it comes to the coach, who
else was we gonna get? Yeah,

860
01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:25.079
yeah, I knew that. When
they was talking about, well, a

861
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:27.520
couple of things, he's a couple
of things. Number one. Uh they

862
01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:30.920
said, Docs was you know,
giving him advice during the getting He was

863
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:34.279
a consultant. Yeah, but he
wasn't a higher consultant. He was just

864
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:40.319
calling Doc Rivers was a higher consultant. He was a higher consultant. That

865
01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:44.039
makes it, no, it makes
it. It makes it more understandable.

866
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:51.159
Because they fired Adrian at noon and
Doc was hired by three pm. People

867
01:10:51.239 --> 01:10:56.199
might be looking at Doc like you
dirty, don't leave your woman around Doc

868
01:10:56.479 --> 01:11:00.199
when you leave the room, Doc
on here on your check is that it's

869
01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:05.279
a business. He he can't help. He got a he got a resume

870
01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:11.520
and you don't. He has a
resume that is very distorted his resume question,

871
01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:15.920
but it's a it's a resume.
And he has one championship with with

872
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:18.399
with the superteam with a super I
don't know about the super team. Yeah,

873
01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:23.800
he had a he had a Garnet
superstar. He had a superstar and

874
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.479
Ray Allen, and he had a
superstar in Paul Piers. And he had

875
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.439
a starting point guard who was the
best at the time in Rajhon Rondo.

876
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:34.560
He was definitely he had a superteam. Boston was a super team. I'm

877
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:38.960
not even gonna get into the I'm
not gonna get into it because that's thirty

878
01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:45.119
minutes. It's not fact. Was
Boston superteam tone yes or no? When

879
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:50.960
Doc one barely was there a superteam? Yes or no? Yes, America

880
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:57.560
America, you chime in and let
us know what's Boston the super team?

881
01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:00.159
Because if they weren't listen, the
only thing Doc is holding on to is

882
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:04.079
that one championship. He's blown more
three ones. He's never won a Game

883
01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:08.800
seven. Okay, so Doc has
a lot of pressure on him, especially

884
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.680
because in the eyes of the casual
fan, you stole your boy's job.

885
01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:15.720
So here's my thing. Okay,
well and your boy is a brother,

886
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:18.560
and we go. Let's just say
what people say. It's a doggy dog

887
01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:24.600
world. Saw someone posts and it
irritated me. Someone posted, Hey,

888
01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:28.359
Doc, look what they did to
Larry Drew, Look what they did to

889
01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:31.479
Jason Kidd. Now Adrian Griffin as
a black man, I wouldn't want to

890
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:35.239
come here, and I just I
usually don't comment on social media because I

891
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:39.600
like to keep a mild mannered approach. I have to protect my piece.

892
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.920
But I literally comment and said that
has nothing to do with anything. All

893
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:46.199
all those coaches you named were trash. They were trash, all those coaches.

894
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:48.159
Now, Jay, he didn't put
Jason k You talked about Larry,

895
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:51.119
you and Griffin. I said all
them coaches were trashed, Yes, all

896
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:54.279
of them. The only way they
trash all of them. Not only were

897
01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:57.560
they trash, are they coaching today? They're not. They are not steal

898
01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:00.880
trash. Still, So here's my
thing about Adrian griffat this, Like I

899
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:05.479
say, I said before I came
across an interest in some stats. That

900
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:12.239
was very interesting. Uh one one
hundred and eleven point five defensive raty Bucks

901
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.600
starting lineup this season, which is
second best in the NBA. The Bucks

902
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.680
starting lineup had a defense. Yeah, I had that defensive raty that's worth

903
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:25.039
second in the league. When Jannis
Middleton Damon Lopez are on the floor is

904
01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:29.520
one ten point eight, which seems
like with what when the bench players have

905
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:33.399
to play without one of the Jannis
or Lopez, things go off the rail.

906
01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:41.119
The numbers improve when Connington comes in
from Middleton. So my thing about

907
01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:45.680
that is this is it really is
it really a coaching situation but not more

908
01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:49.600
of a roster situation. It's both, But the thing about coaching is you

909
01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:54.800
have to know your roster. That's
very true. We were up on the

910
01:13:54.920 --> 01:14:00.359
Kings by seventeen. Again, I
go back to Bobby In, Cameron Payne

911
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:10.439
and the other guy. No black
dude shooting three a little bit, killing,

912
01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:17.720
killing, and he benched dang up
until that last shot. Couldn't buy

913
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:27.840
a bucket, couldn't buy a bucket, Low Pazz, couldn't buy a bucket,

914
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:32.159
or I like brook Brook is old, it's time for us to whoa.

915
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:35.439
We slow knew that going in,
but we did. His age is

916
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:39.920
showing we didn't have a choice.
It's showing now, oh it's been shown.

917
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:43.239
It's showing. And I like Brook, but thank you for the memories.

918
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:47.760
But it's time. The coach is
sixty. And you know, always

919
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:50.119
been like this. I always start
firing a coach was a cop out.

920
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:56.800
I always thought that. But in
this situation, sixty forty sixty forty like

921
01:14:56.880 --> 01:15:03.039
sixty sixty coach forty players. Because
here's a thing, Doc, Doc will

922
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:06.000
be here because the Bucks ain't gonna
play another player, another coach. He'll

923
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.960
be here for three. He gonna
ride his contract out. I think he's

924
01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:14.439
outside for two. Didn't three year
deal forty million dollars fifteen, seventeen,

925
01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:21.439
eighteen a year. But Doc rivers, this is your final chance. They

926
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:25.279
say coaching. That's word on the
street. Redemption, that's word on the

927
01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:28.239
street. If you don't take the
I don't think you have to win.

928
01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:32.319
You have to win to stay with
Milwaukee, to get more than four,

929
01:15:32.920 --> 01:15:38.520
more than three. But if you
don't win in Milwaukee, you're done.

930
01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:42.680
And here's why I'm gonna give Doc
the benefit of the doubt, because every

931
01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:46.960
coach the last ten years have had
at least three stars. After Doc left

932
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:59.039
Boston, he didn't have multiple stars. Clippers debatable now then to now then

933
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:04.279
to he had a city had an
injured Brook An injured Chris Paul and and

934
01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:09.159
and and and live city was not
enough to win titles. It was nice

935
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:13.399
to watch. I used to watch, but he they couldn't stop the Lakers.

936
01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:16.920
Plus he coached in the Golden State
era. I played on the players

937
01:16:18.199 --> 01:16:21.680
James Harden left. He could anyone
showing up. He wasn't showing up.

938
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:25.720
I think him and him and James
Harden don't get along. Okay, so

939
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:29.800
this was Okay, here's my doc
is never I'm gonna say this, Doc

940
01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:32.600
has never had Dame and he's never
had he doesn't he I don't think he's

941
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:41.319
ever had two superstars who are dedicated
to improving and making Because this there's no

942
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:46.760
distraction here. They're no distracting here. So it's it's based on focusing on

943
01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:50.279
basketball. By the way, this
is a home coming because Doc Rivers played

944
01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:55.640
basketball Marquette. They actually I was
a game they introduced some Saturday at the

945
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.039
Market game. Yeah, he was
at the Market game on Saturday. So

946
01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:02.079
my thing this, sorry to cut
you off, but they just mark just

947
01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:06.439
ready for the checks. They just
ready for that alumni donation, which is

948
01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:11.720
more likely now that he's back,
and it's more likely to come and think

949
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:17.479
get a championship. And my thing
is with this whole situation is, like

950
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:20.159
I said, it didn't look right. It hasn't looked right all season,

951
01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:23.520
even though we was winning, we
were second place in the East. We

952
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:26.960
are second place in the East.
It just doesn't look right. I still

953
01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:30.760
think the Bucks need to make a
move in the trade deadline. I can't

954
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:34.199
wait for people. I see people
get get bought out. I'm hoping we

955
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:38.960
can pick up PJ. Tucker.
I'm hoping, honestly. If we don't

956
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.920
pick up Murray, I hope.
I want us to pick up what'sn't called

957
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:45.199
it. I want us to pick
up Kyle Lowry just to see, just

958
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:49.600
to see. But I want us
to pick up some dogs, some guys

959
01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:55.439
who can come off the bench and
give us some life behind the bench.

960
01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:59.640
Or if we need to pick up
a starter like Murray, can move somebody

961
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:01.039
from the start a line up to
the bench. Now I will say this's

962
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:03.800
about the Bucks. Number two you're
right. This second half of the season

963
01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:06.840
is going to really prove who we
are. That's one. Number Two,

964
01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:12.479
we got Crowder coming back, so
that's that's good. When I hate,

965
01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:17.039
we'll see what happens and then you
know our team is starting. I don't

966
01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:21.079
know what Doc Rivers can do because, like you said, I like the

967
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:27.000
analogies that you said, sixty forty
sixty players, forty coach, so Doc

968
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:30.479
can say all of everything he want
to say. But you gotta have number

969
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.800
one. You gotta have guys who
can buy in. Having a championship does

970
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:39.800
make guys buy in absolutely, And
I will say it helps with guys who

971
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.760
want to, you know, win, Like I have a championship, I

972
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:44.520
know what it takes, and we're
like, all right, cool, we

973
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:48.520
can win. I can see Doc
not losing the locker room in Philly and

974
01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:54.279
in Los Angeles. So it's one
of the things where like I see where

975
01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:57.760
I can see both sides of this
thing. But I feel like all the

976
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:00.520
reports are coming out, does it
None of the worth that's coming out make

977
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:05.600
Adrian Griffin look like we did him
vogus because everybody's seen it. Everybody's seen

978
01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:12.920
it coming. And I'll say this
Doc Rivers is under a tremendous amount of

979
01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:17.279
pressure, a tremendous amount of pressure, more than I was gonna ask you

980
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:20.920
question naxt more. No, I'm
saying more than Damon, more than Giannis.

981
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:28.880
Yeah, I think so. But
also listen to me and listen to

982
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:35.039
me. Well, if Doc Rivers
blows this our GM, I think his

983
01:19:35.159 --> 01:19:45.359
name is Brian Horst, John Horse, he's out, because really he's out.

984
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:59.520
Because here's why you do not hire
an inexperienced coach to coach a championship

985
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:01.439
team. Hold on a second,
hold on a second stop. I have

986
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:05.199
to stop you there. That's why
I preferenced. This is when I first

987
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:11.399
said we didn't have all these these
Dave got signed after Griffin, he got

988
01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:18.439
traded after. Does it matter why
when they fired Budd, you knew you

989
01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:25.520
were building a hopeful championship roster with
Budd right for you should have went right

990
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:29.680
for a coach. Yanni said no
the nick Nurse. They said no to

991
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:33.720
Mark Jackson, they said no the
nick Nurse. They interviewed five coaches,

992
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:40.239
but he's only said no the nick
Nurse. If you don't think said yes

993
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:43.079
to Griffin, I got a blank
check for you hold a second, You're

994
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.439
right he did say yes to Griffin
because didn't know who Griffin was. He's

995
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:49.279
like, more of a reason.
Why listen, there is a fine line

996
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:53.399
between he said anybody but Nick Nurse. That's what he said. He said,

997
01:20:53.399 --> 01:20:55.520
anybody but Nick Nurse. He was
like, we got this Griffin guy

998
01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:59.000
in the corner right here. He
he coached under Nick Nurse. He's like,

999
01:20:59.039 --> 01:21:00.039
that's fine, but you can I
on him. I'm like, all

1000
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:03.760
right, cool, Nick Nurse would
have been great. I don't know about

1001
01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:06.880
that. Nick Nurse is a real
coach. I don't know about that.

1002
01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:12.079
You see, hey, you see
what happened at the choir left of Toronto.

1003
01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:15.359
He didn't have a body, and
they still did. Okay, they're

1004
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:17.439
still okay. They almost made it. They made to play a journament.

1005
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:23.760
They still did. Okay, Listen, we fired Bud, a two time

1006
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:27.760
coach of the year. Now only
did we fire, but we fired Bud

1007
01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.800
after he lost his brother and we
had to. We had to love it

1008
01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:35.079
with no choice, no choice.
Okay. Now, this here's my thing.

1009
01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:38.439
Here's my thing. This is why
GM is good. I'm gonna tell

1010
01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:41.520
you why GM is good. I
don't think I'm gona tell why three coaches

1011
01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:44.920
on the row doesn't get it done. Out of here? Hey, hey,

1012
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:48.199
we have to He like, we
have to win now. We have

1013
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:51.880
to win now, not next week, not next year, not two years

1014
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:56.479
from now. We have to win
now because us winning now is the only

1015
01:21:56.760 --> 01:21:59.399
is the only thing. Was like, all right, cool, I see

1016
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:01.600
what you're trying to do here.
I'm just our resign. Dang, we

1017
01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:05.720
got dame for the other three years, Dawn. I do like I said

1018
01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:09.159
before, I think we need to
make some roster moves. Unfortunately, we

1019
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:11.880
have no draft picks. That's the
only reason we ain't got murried. We

1020
01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:15.680
have no draft picks, no good
ones, not for least three for years.

1021
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:20.000
Again, a team that is trying
to win now. So is Doc

1022
01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:23.800
Rivers here for the next two three
years? Yes, but if he don't

1023
01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:27.920
bring us to the NBA finals at
least two out of those three years,

1024
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:33.279
I would agree with you he's got
to go. But my thing is this,

1025
01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:40.640
what is Doc River's gonna do?
And on top of that, who

1026
01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:44.239
else was out there? Who was
out there really beside Doc Rivers? I

1027
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:45.840
think they were names. Thing out
there was like mc millan. I was

1028
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:48.760
like, who I knew who bu
but he ain't got no, he ain't.

1029
01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:54.119
When he ain't won nothing, he
doesn't. But he also has coached

1030
01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:58.319
in more. He has coaching experience. He has very he's not a lot

1031
01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:00.119
of coaching experience, but good experience. He has good experience. But he

1032
01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:10.960
has coach Indiana. He coached was
it Atlantad? So there wasn't a lot

1033
01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:14.399
of coaches out there. I mean, the three names that they had were

1034
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:20.560
Jeff Van Gundy, Doc Rivers,
and people have had Jeff's name in the

1035
01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:26.560
game for a long time and Jeff
has no desire to coach. Hopefully they

1036
01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:30.079
bring them back to commentating. So
I mean, it is what it is.

1037
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:33.199
I mean, I wish Doc Rivers
the best. He'll make his coaching

1038
01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:40.239
debut tomorrow against the New Orleans Pelicans. Oh yes, you're right. It's

1039
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:44.239
against the Denver Nuggets, which is
a big game. But I don't know

1040
01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:46.920
if Doc has practiced because he's been
watching the game from the skybox. He

1041
01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:54.439
watched last night when we lost to
Cleveland on Friday night, and then he

1042
01:23:54.520 --> 01:23:57.640
watched last night when the Bucks score
one hundred and forty one points, Like,

1043
01:23:57.680 --> 01:24:00.640
where's the defense in the NBA where's
defense? Why our team scoring one

1044
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:04.680
hundred and forty points in regulation?
I can't stand it? Well, God,

1045
01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:11.479
I missed the NBA really Okay,
all right, so another thing in

1046
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:17.720
Bucks talk is okay, another thing
in Bucks talk to Bucks are reportedly seeking

1047
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:21.640
a trade package that would include Pat
Countington and Cameron Payne. What do you

1048
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:30.840
think of this possible move? Both
can go Pat, especially because Pat's going

1049
01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:35.119
to expect a big pay day.
I think that's I think that's the opposite.

1050
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:41.039
Yeah, Pat can go, Cam
can go, But without knowing for

1051
01:24:41.279 --> 01:24:44.199
who, it's hard to say.
What do I think? As long as

1052
01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:47.960
we're not trading boat Champ because I
believe Doc would bring the best out of

1053
01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:53.720
him. I think bow Champ is
highly overrated. Well, keep watching,

1054
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:56.640
okay, keep watching. No,
he's been there for the last couple of

1055
01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:03.000
weeks on the bench, andywhere else
has it? Yes, he's there.

1056
01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:09.000
I'm balling out. I have not
seen How did you hear that? And

1057
01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:12.920
I've seen a couple of games.
Okay, Well, good get as much

1058
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:15.720
practice and click if you can.
Because you got a ricky coach. He

1059
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:19.039
makes ricky mistakes by not playing talent, and bow Champs should be playing more

1060
01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:24.560
than Pac Contington. Bow Champs should
be paying more than Camp. He should

1061
01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:30.399
be playing more than when you have
a coach, he doesn't know his rotation.

1062
01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:34.640
No, I blame Griffin for his
lack of development of boat Champs.

1063
01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:40.239
But I like it, especially if
it brings a shooter. But for who

1064
01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:45.199
is the big question. The NBA
trade deadline is approaching very quickly. Yep.

1065
01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:47.640
So whatever the Bucks are going to
do, the rumor has it,

1066
01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:51.039
you know, I'm kind of connected, but a lot of people are linking

1067
01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:59.960
pack Contington to Atlanta, and I
don't know what and how they're linking now.

1068
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:04.920
But if we can get Murray over
here, oh man, oh man,

1069
01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:08.399
you talk about some First of all, the Bucks are going to be

1070
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.960
in a big salary cap issue if
we get Murray, because Murray has a

1071
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:15.159
huge contract. You better look that
contract. Yeah, an EXTENSI I think

1072
01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:21.119
he had an extension. He does. So the NBA trade dad line is

1073
01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:29.039
February tenth, February ninth, February. It's February nine fifty trade dad line

1074
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:41.600
and Murray his contract is let's see
here, it's pretty is it's pretty hefty.

1075
01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:45.600
He has a Murray is getting thirty
million dollars a year. He got

1076
01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:47.960
a four year deal to twenty seven, twenty eight. He's in year one.

1077
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:54.239
So if you had his thirty on
top of Middletons twenty five, on

1078
01:26:54.399 --> 01:27:00.600
top of Dames forty eight, on
top of Giannis's fifty plus, you're looking

1079
01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:02.560
at it. Hold up, you're
looking at a starting lineup of two hundred

1080
01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:09.920
million dollars plus a coach that makes
forty million dollars and three other bucks.

1081
01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:14.119
Payroll is about to be knocking at
Golden state levels, Los Angeles Lakers.

1082
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:17.199
But if you want to win a
title, you gotta do it. And

1083
01:27:17.279 --> 01:27:21.199
I think Murray, I don't know
that he's a missing piece, but he

1084
01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:25.079
takes care of some of those shooting
problems. Like I said, I think

1085
01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:27.479
Murray. You put him in the
starting lineup, puts these guys to the

1086
01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:30.520
bitch and we have a phenomenal bitch. You got Murray, you got Murray

1087
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:35.279
and Dame in the backcourt, you
got Giannison, Middleton, bro I'll take

1088
01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:39.760
it. And then on the bitch, you gotta take it. Beasley a

1089
01:27:40.079 --> 01:27:45.920
crowder. We just need a point
guard. Vote stop hating. No boat,

1090
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:48.159
yeah, hay, no boat chance. He just not what y'all think

1091
01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:57.880
he is. He's just athletic.
I don't care about that. No Lakers

1092
01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:03.680
have offered. The Lakers trying to
get into but they didn't get They're they're

1093
01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:10.159
going hard pick D'Angelo Russell, who's
been balling out the past couple of days,

1094
01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:15.840
but it's not consistent enough. So
yeah, so we'll see. I

1095
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:18.880
don't think the Bucks will do anything
to be truthful. I think they're gonna

1096
01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:21.520
want to cut the buyo market and
try to get some them veterans on the

1097
01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:29.439
team. We need to we need
to really quickly. People are talking about

1098
01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:33.479
Doc Whever's gonna bring your son on
the squad, which is hilarious, which

1099
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:38.239
I'll take anyways. I'll take it. I'll take it. We need to

1100
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:43.279
solid point guard and camera Paigny doing
it. But that has been another episode

1101
01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:46.199
of ninety four feet podcast. You
can catch us on all social media platforms.

1102
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.920
Hold on, so let's reverse that
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1103
01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:55.079
four feet podcast. They like to
thank my brother Draf for coming through.

1104
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:58.880
Always a good time, people,
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1105
01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:03.439
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01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:09.039
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