WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:06.000 Welcome back fact unners and truth seekers from around the world. It's time for 2 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:09.720 a very special edition of our podcast. This evening, we have a very 3 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:16.199 special guest, author of the book The Genesis Sixth Conspiracy, How secret Societies 4 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:21.839 and the descendants of Giants plan to enslave humankind. Please help us welcome mister 5 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:26.719 Gary Wayne to the podcast. Gary, how are you doing tonight? I 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:31.480 am doing very well and thank you for inviting me to your podcast and so 7 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:35.439 much looking forward to the conversation tonight and it should be a lot of fun. 8 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.560 And likewise, I've been down the rabbit hole for many many years. 9 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:43.759 We've been doing this podcast for several years. Lately as of laid over the 10 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:47.240 last I guess six months to a year, the question about the Nephelim have 11 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:52.799 become a big question within the truth community and their links to the secret societies 12 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:56.560 and the things that are going on today. And we'll get on we'll get 13 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:02.000 into all that, but very first, please enter doush yourself, your website 14 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:07.519 and where can people find your books? Yeah, thank you for that. 15 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:12.439 So Yeah, I'm my name is Gary Wayne, and I'm what I would 16 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:17.680 call a Christian contrarian and kind of what I mean by that is I tend 17 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:21.480 to want to verify things for myself and not just take the word for what 18 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:26.400 somebody is saying or what somebody says something says. So I want to make 19 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:29.959 sure I have a good, strong, sort of structural basis for why I 20 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:34.599 believe what I believe. And I think it's an approach that has taken me 21 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:38.120 down a lot of rabbit holes, because if you want to know the questions, 22 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.200 you're going to go deep. I'm retired at this point. I'm fortunate 23 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:48.079 enough to be in that position to be able to retire and do social media. 24 00:01:48.319 --> 00:01:51.879 I think there's a lot of questions that are out in the world where 25 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:56.319 people want some dots connected and some other context. And I think that's a 26 00:01:56.359 --> 00:02:01.879 lot about what your show is all about. And I don't come at things 27 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:07.120 from a that I'm a prophet or anything like that. I'm just a researcher. 28 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.520 So but I think what I try and bring to the table is is 29 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:19.319 some common sense logic and some common sense research, and I think it helps 30 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.560 explain a lot of things. So, you know, I started my research 31 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:29.840 in this area and I didn't expect to be where I ended up in the 32 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.280 first book in terms of how I wrote the book and where that ended up. 33 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:36.520 But I started my research in about nineteen eighty to eighty one, and 34 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:40.520 I didn't start writing this book until the Genesis Sixth Conspiracy Part one until about 35 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:46.879 nineteen ninety five nineteen ninety six, and I published it in about two thousand 36 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:54.479 and fifteen. So there was a long journey there in terms of writing the 37 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:59.080 book, and actually the only one. I wanted to write a small book 38 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:01.280 and because I know whether or not I could get published and with people buy 39 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:05.360 the book, and people liked the book, and so I thought I would 40 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:08.919 write a short little story about how giants might be connected to the end time 41 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:14.960 because they could sort of keep showing up throughout the Bible, but somewhere along 42 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.800 the road to the call, I'll see him. I got diverted because I 43 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:22.240 have other interests as well. So I'm a strong mythology buff. I am 44 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:27.919 a strong history buff and those were my passions before prophecies. So when I 45 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.400 got on this kick because I wanted to find out whether or not prophecy was 46 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:35.840 legitimate. Because I had read a book by how Lindsay called The Late Great 47 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.960 Clanet Earth that had scared the socks off in me. I decided to have 48 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:43.159 to learn about the Bible again. And so when I was logging all the 49 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:47.639 different prophecy narratives, you come to Genesis six and I'm going, I don't 50 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:51.759 know what that's all about. I don't want anything to do with it, 51 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:57.039 but it just sort of keeps coming up, and so it sort of got 52 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.039 me hooked, and as to how much information there is on it, and 53 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.479 I saw the connections that were in my other passions and when I was younger, 54 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:08.199 and so I thought, I'm going to put in a little bit of 55 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:14.680 context about how other societies viewed the same set of events, whether it's Greek 56 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:21.000 or Sumerian or Kishamayah, and just give people, particularly Christians of Labor, 57 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.319 that they're talking about the same events, but just through a polytheist lens and 58 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:30.600 a different cultural lens. And then when I did that, I thought I 59 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:33.720 had to give a little bit of context about the religion because it was all 60 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:39.759 part of that organizational structure of those ancient cultures. And then when I did 61 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:41.920 that, I learned about the mystery schools. And when I learned that, 62 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:48.439 I had to learn about the Secret Society. So learning all about the different 63 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:54.560 religions around the world and going down the rabbit holes of the secret societies that 64 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.600 took me down, you know, a whole there for you know, well 65 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:00.680 over a decade, just trying to figure out how this sort of intermesh. 66 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.920 So that's kind of my story, and that's where I ended up with The 67 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:09.839 Genesis sixth Conspiracy. And it's probably, I think the most unique book that's 68 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:15.279 on the marketplace, and I think it from the response that I get from 69 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:19.079 the audiences is that connects a lot of stuff. It makes sense of the 70 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:23.480 world that we're in today, and for a lot of Christians, they say, 71 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.920 for the first time, the Old Testament makes sense to me. So 72 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:30.000 it's been a very satisfying experience and I just love to talk about it and 73 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:34.120 I just love to take questions on it. Well, it's incredible that the 74 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:41.040 road was thirty four thirty five years from planning the seed in your mind in 75 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:46.319 nineteen eighty one to actually being published in twenty sixteen. That's incredible in itself. 76 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.439 And by the way, please, if you'd like to purchase the book 77 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:55.240 or you want to learn more, go to Genesis six Conspiracy dot com. 78 00:05:55.480 --> 00:06:00.600 And that is Genesis the Number six conspiracy dot com, and don't worried about 79 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:02.600 having to scramble for a paper if you're driving to write it down. All 80 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:06.560 of this information will be in the show description. They also have a great 81 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:11.639 page that was put together on Facebook and I will put that in the show 82 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:15.480 description as well. It's a great community and you can ask Gary questions the 83 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:20.199 community questions about the book. So if your answers aren't or if your questions 84 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:25.160 aren't answered here on this podcast where you have answers that kind of come to 85 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.519 your mind as you're listening, I would highly encourage you, of course, 86 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:33.279 to go to Gary's website Genesis sixth conspiracy dot com and also visit that Facebook 87 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:41.959 page where you can discuss the Genesis sixth conspiracy. And also, Gary, 88 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.800 why don't you let the audience know about the update on your upcoming part two? 89 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:50.240 Yeah. One of the things that came out of writing the first book 90 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:59.720 was that Christians wanted to know more of what's in the Bible about prehistory because 91 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:05.639 people in churches aren't taught prehistory or prophecy. So Part two is specifically targeted 92 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:10.240 at Christians and taking them down the rabbit hole, so to speak within the 93 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:15.800 Bible as to how much information is actually there about the giants and the different 94 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:23.519 kinds of giants and the hybrid giants, and how that rolled over into the 95 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:28.680 time of the Exodus, and how that affects the understanding for end time prophecy 96 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:31.319 because all the terms and the context is there in the prehistory. And I 97 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:39.000 also get into this sort of angelic hierarchy, both the loyal and the rebellious, 98 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:45.079 and get into the Council of the Gods and lay down a patch framework 99 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:51.160 for understanding end time biblical chronology, which comes forward in the latter parts of 100 00:07:51.199 --> 00:08:00.639 the book. And so the subtitle to the second book is called how Understanding 101 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:05.519 Prehistory and Giants helps to define End Time Prophecy. So this one goes very 102 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:09.680 deep into what's in the Bible and provide I think it's an absolutely unique book. 103 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:15.600 That is I've that I'm putting out and there will be nothing else like 104 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.279 it on the market, and I think people will be surprised as to how 105 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:24.839 much information is in the Bible on this topic and how many different tribes there 106 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:30.000 are. It's just astounding. So it's yeah, it was an interesting journey 107 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.679 to write this book and it'll be out in late August or early September. 108 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.799 I'm not taking pre orders yet, but if people wanted to get a hold 109 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:43.559 of me at this email address, it's Genesis sixth Conspiracy. That's Genesis six 110 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:50.039 with the number six conspiracy again, so Genesis sixth Conspiracy Part two at gmail 111 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.120 dot com. You don't have to say anything on it. Just send me 112 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.840 an email and I will send a notification when I get a firm release date 113 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:05.080 and a firm ice and then provide the information on that email you're interested to 114 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.799 how you can purchase a copy. So it will be available on my website 115 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.879 as well, and there will be a generous excerpt on all eighty four chapters 116 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.120 in this one, so it's a little bit shorter than the first book, 117 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:22.519 and it will also have links over to where it's also available like for the 118 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:28.320 Kindle editions as as the first book has the links for on the buy now 119 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.840 page and on the front page of the website and also to Barnes Andnoble dot 120 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.799 com, Amazon dot com and Amazon dot CAA. And if people will want 121 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:39.919 a sign copy for the first book or the second book, you go to 122 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.720 buy from the author on the buy now page and I've got a page for 123 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:45.879 Canada, I've got a page for the US, and I got a page 124 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:50.080 for overseas. So that's the easiest fastest way to get a hold of me 125 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:54.639 and or my book if either one of those are the two things that you'd 126 00:09:54.679 --> 00:10:00.240 like to do. Perfect Thanks for explaining that, And your email is Genesis 127 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.799 six Conspiracy Part two if they wanted to reach out for the upcoming one at 128 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.919 gmail dot com. Yes, yep, perfect up with that in the show 129 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.320 description as well. And getting back to your first book, I'd like to 130 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:16.320 ask you, I'm assuming for your research you used obviously the Bible, I 131 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.679 don't know other than King James version, if used NIVESV obviously, I'm guessing 132 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:26.480 you probably used the Book of Enoch and Strong's Hebrew Concordances. Are other resources 133 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:33.799 that you used in preparing your book? Yeah, the first book is a 134 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:35.759 little bit different than the second book in that sort of aspect. For the 135 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.639 first book, I used NIV. That's the sort of book I needed to 136 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:43.799 get comfortable with terms of the language, so I used that one and it's 137 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:50.960 a more i guess easily understood sort of writing than the King James version. 138 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.519 In the second book, I go to the King James version. I usually 139 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:58.960 actually like six different Bibles, and I do take things back to Hebrew. 140 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:03.679 But in the first book, what I do is I tend to use other 141 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:09.440 sources for the etymology and accounting. So I like, I don't quote directly 142 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:15.600 from Enoch in the first book, because when I'm talking about the various sides, 143 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:22.480 whether it's the Biblical side or particularly the opposing views to the Christian perspective, 144 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:26.480 I like to let them speak in their own words. So Enoch is 145 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:31.080 a very big part of the first book, but I'm using other authors and 146 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.799 sources to quote it. In the second book, I go directly to the 147 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:39.679 sources. So but it's it's done in a way that I want. I 148 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:45.000 didn't want people in the first book to think I was manipulating what secret Society 149 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:48.320 say on things, or other religions or other cultures say on things. So 150 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.519 I wanted to use their sources completely understood. And I wonder, did you 151 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.440 have any folks from we'll use the term organized religion reach out to you and 152 00:11:56.519 --> 00:12:00.919 say you should only use Canaani's books doing this research. What are you doing 153 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.480 using Enoch? And I guess I could apply to like Maccabees and Jubilees, 154 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:11.600 etc. Oh yeah, I mean more afterwards than during, because I decided 155 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:16.240 I was writing the book the way I wanted to write it. And one 156 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:20.039 of the things I tell people about my research is because I'm a Christian, 157 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:26.720 is I measure everything I read outside of the Bible against what's in the Bible. 158 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:33.600 So where it supports the Bible, I think, you know, that's 159 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:39.120 good for contacts. If it directly opposes or strays away from what the Bible 160 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:41.639 is, you know, I'll look at it, and I think for the 161 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:45.639 record, depending on the point, people should know that this is what it 162 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:52.440 is said. But for my own particular sort of personal belief, I really 163 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.639 rely on what's in the Bible as my measuring sticks. So and I clearly 164 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:03.000 have a Christian biases. Great, now, let's kind of get into the 165 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.799 subject matter, and I guess the best place to start. The obvious place 166 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.759 would I guess to be Genesis four, which says there were giants in the 167 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:16.000 earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God 168 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:22.600 came in unto the daughters of men, and they bear children to them, 169 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:28.000 the same become mighty men, which were of old men of renown and many 170 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:30.960 people you know, going to church back in the day. That's just another 171 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:33.200 verse we read. You know, this was something that never were really brought 172 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:37.360 to our attemption that you know, hey, Nephelum, you know we're giants. 173 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:45.639 You know, we're interwoven with the daughters of God, and these the 174 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:50.240 Nephelum were formed. Excuse me. And then of course we talk about the 175 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:52.799 arc. So why don't you go ahead and get into a little bit about 176 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:54.440 the nitty gritty of you know, this is the heart and soul of the 177 00:13:54.480 --> 00:14:03.120 Genesis sixth conspiracy. That verse there, Yeah, that is the only creation 178 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:09.120 story that is like a smoking gun verse for a creation story for giants. 179 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:16.840 And what's interesting about the location of Genesis six one three four, it's in 180 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:24.519 the preamble to the flood story, and so it's context for the flood story, 181 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.600 and so you can't purse the flood story out of it. It's just 182 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:37.600 it just sort of flows. And Noah's commission he's introduced in the genealogies at 183 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.200 the end of chapter five, and then his commission starts in you know, 184 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:50.279 after Genesis six four, and it's totally intertwined. And this is the creation 185 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:56.440 by the sons of God, which are an order of angels, could be 186 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:03.360 multiple orders of angels, and opposing sides debate whether or not were they actually 187 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:09.759 setites or humans or were they really angels. And in the Old Testament it's 188 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:18.399 really quite clear that these are angels, and job Books one and two you 189 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:24.519 have Jobe one six and two one. You've got the sons of God who 190 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:33.759 are being called to present themselves before the throne of God in heaven and they're 191 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:37.960 accompanied by Satan. And so some people might say, well, that could 192 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.799 have been humans that were presenting themselves before God. Well, you know, 193 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:48.039 we don't have that verse anywhere in the Bible that humans presented themselves. And 194 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.440 some people might say, well, God's throne was on the earth and they 195 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.840 presented Well, again, we don't get a passage on that. So but 196 00:15:54.960 --> 00:16:03.159 what was really sort of conclusive that makes this unique is is to thirty eight 197 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:08.440 four through seven, where you have the morning Stars and the sons of God 198 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:15.279 at present at the creation of everything, and this is before the rebellion, 199 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:22.840 and they are absolutely ecstatic about what's going on. And so humans were not 200 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:27.360 there when the foundations of the earth were laid it just it makes no sense, 201 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:33.000 and that the sons of God are the same as the sons of the 202 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:37.799 Most High that's recorded in Psalms eighty two, which is the counsel of the 203 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:42.000 Gods, and this is the council of the gods that are ruling the earth. 204 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:48.080 These are the rebellious angels. And it's the same language as what you're 205 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.399 getting in Genesis six four, but instead of saying elohem, it's eli on 206 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:59.279 the God Most High. But they're synonymous in the application you have throughout the 207 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:04.680 Old Testament. You have the sons of God related with the morning stars as 208 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:10.319 we've talked about. You've got stars as understood as angels, and you have 209 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:17.359 the angels, and those four terms are all used interchangeably throughout the Old Testament 210 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:21.039 and in conjunction with the host of heaven, which is the Hebrew word saba, 211 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:25.440 which means the army of heaven, which also implies rank and order. 212 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:33.279 And so when we look at what's going on in Genesis six one and four 213 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.400 through that lens, and we understand that these aren't humans because you can't produce 214 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:44.559 giants from a human meeting with a human, correct, and you can't produce 215 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:48.359 a demi god with a human producing with a human and a demi god, 216 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:55.519 as it's understood as a lower type of god and a demigod in Aletheism is 217 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:03.319 the offspring of a god or a goddess and a human male or human female, 218 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:11.240 and they created from both sides of the equation demigods and giants in other 219 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:18.000 cultures, and the exact same story that's being recounted in Genesis six. And 220 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:26.000 what's going on here is is the creation of a hybrid angelic human race to 221 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:33.359 enslave and try to ensure human kind does not reach their destiny to be resurrected 222 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:37.599 in the future time to be like angels, and to judge the fallen angels 223 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:42.119 for the both the crimes against creation and the crimes against humanity. And so 224 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:48.839 there's been this sort of war that's been going on that played out starting before 225 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.720 the flood, again after the flood, and continues to this day and we'll 226 00:18:52.759 --> 00:19:00.680 continue until the end time. So context biblically is very very important to understand 227 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:07.240 that the humans are the Adamites are the resolution to the angelic rebellion. It's 228 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.640 just that it is still playing out. So this is a story that's known 229 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:18.000 all around the world about the creation of the giants by the gods, and 230 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:23.359 so it has a common legacy not only to Christians, but to everybody else 231 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.759 in the world. And it doesn't matter whether or not you go to Greece, 232 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:30.880 where you have the Heroes and the Titans, and let's say Zeus as 233 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:42.599 an offspring God produced through alchemy an individual named Hercules. You have Baal who's 234 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:52.559 creating the Raphaim after the flood. You have a goddess named nin with Lugubanda, 235 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.119 king of a rook, who's going to produce a giant name Yolkamesh, 236 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.599 and on and on and on and on, just to give a few random 237 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:07.720 examples. And so this race almost succeeds very very quickly with the size of 238 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:14.960 their power to ensure human kind will be wiped from the face of the earth 239 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:19.759 to be remembered no more, just as attempted to do with the nation of 240 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:27.640 Israel after the flood. By the time God brings the flood, and the 241 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:37.440 flood is designed to have a restart to give humankind more time to complete their 242 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:42.880 their their missions. So the context is very very important and understanding that this 243 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:48.240 is a common legacy around the world is also very very important, and that 244 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.920 there will be a lot of different views as to what that means and what 245 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:57.440 the outcome might be. Right, and we are very much in a spiritual 246 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:02.519 war now. I think even uh, since twenty twenty, the most normal 247 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.519 of people who simply watch sports, go to the movies and work all day. 248 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:11.359 I think even the most normal last person realized since twenty twenty that there 249 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:15.599 there is a great evil amongst the earth. And that goes back to some 250 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:22.880 I think common um, I guess misnomers of people. They think that Satan 251 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:27.240 or Luciferum is a guy who who's hanging out, you know, whether it's 252 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:32.680 Shiel or or Hell, the Lake of Fire. He's just down there waiting 253 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:37.200 for the souls to come in there. He's actively walking the earth today. 254 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.480 And I always go back to when he m you know, he had he 255 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:45.119 attempted Jesus for for forty days. And I always say, imagine, you 256 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:48.039 know, Jesus, the most, the one and only perfect being to ever 257 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:56.960 walk this earth, Imagine what he's doing to you and I yeah, and 258 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:03.039 that he actually presented at temptation to you know, the word who became flesh. 259 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:10.599 So this is a very powerful, persuasive individual, and he fell a 260 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:15.200 long ways. He's a unique he's unique amongst the gods and unique amongst the 261 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:23.039 angels. He's described as and he has many different names, I think so. 262 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:32.240 In Isaiah fourteen twelve it says hale L ben Skar for Lucifer, son 263 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:36.480 of the Morning, as it's translated into King James version Bible, and hale 264 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:42.200 elis probably likely one of his names and titles. Some people might say gad 265 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:47.359 Real is another name, as he's called in the Book of Enoch, which 266 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:52.319 means the wall of God or God's wall. And so he probably had many 267 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.279 names and titles, and probably at least seven, which would be kind of 268 00:22:56.279 --> 00:23:02.039 a standard at times for important kings and gods that they would have these these 269 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:07.960 many titles. And so he was a troubum in the book of Ezekiel because 270 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:14.039 he's the one that's in Eden and he's an anointed cherubim there and he walks 271 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:19.759 amongst the the fiery stones, and it's the seraphum who walk amongst the fiery 272 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:23.640 stones, and Satan is also described as a dragon and a serpent, and 273 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:29.400 a seraphum have a serpent face and six wings and work before the altar of 274 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:34.079 God in the in the burning coals, and so he's part seraphum because he 275 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:41.680 walks amongst these burning coals. And he is probably the high priest before his 276 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.599 fall, because he has these jewels that were on associated with him, just 277 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:52.440 as you have the twelve jewels associated with the Levite priest order. And he 278 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:56.880 was an archangel, and he probably had other titles and things as well. 279 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:06.519 This was the prized creation below the tripart nature of the godhood who decided to 280 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:12.559 rebel, and he is he is absolutely unique, and he has power beyond 281 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:19.359 our understanding, and he has a mission to win a realm on his own, 282 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.079 to be away from God, just as he tried to raise his throne 283 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:30.880 to heaven to be like God. And so the demigods are sort of part 284 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:37.119 of the whole plan by Satan and his rebellious angels to lead human kind away 285 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:44.160 from from their destiny and to justify their rebellion. So Satan is very very 286 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:49.960 unique, and he is real. And that name hell hell you're talking about 287 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:56.400 living in hell, if we don't have an etymological link, that that means 288 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.319 the god of Hell, and that's where the hell comes from. If that's 289 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:04.839 what you would translate that as is the lake of fire or Shayol or hades 290 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:15.880 Hell has been unfortunately conflated into or has a meaning that has several meanings conflated. 291 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:21.720 So the lake of Fire is a separate location from where the the Abyss 292 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:26.119 or the pit prison is located, and the Abyss and Pitt prison is located 293 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:30.960 in Shaol and the other world. And when it's got many different names Uh 294 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:36.960 and Hades in Greek, so you've got different terms that have been conflated with 295 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:40.079 the English language, and it sort of helps to delineate that. But I 296 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.160 always find it interesting that, you know, and that's spelled people are undering 297 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:48.759 the spelling on that, that's h e y l e l. And typically 298 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:53.920 angels names would end in el, like is Azel or Michael or Gabrielle. 299 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.079 Yeah, it's funny we and this podcast we talk lies in the media, 300 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:06.160 truth in Hollywood. Many of the you know, people love their superhero movies, 301 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:10.839 and it's funny that Superman's father's name was like Jararell or something like that. 302 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:22.519 Yeah, House of El Darrel and darrel Son and and l is the 303 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:29.200 chief god of the Canaanite panteon and Bayl is his offspring son who rules after 304 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.839 the flood, and you have the Superman who's a hero. Just as the 305 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:40.480 giants were called heroes in in Sunaria, they are called heroes in the Uguritic 306 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:45.720 texts. There are called heroes in Greek culture, and they are super because 307 00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:51.039 they are greater than the average human and the rafaim, which are in the 308 00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:59.920 Uguritic texts most of Luvian giants. They are looked upon as not only here 309 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:06.960 but also as saviors. And so Superman is kind of this savior of the 310 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.160 earth. And what's also interesting is is you have sort of the inverse relationship 311 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.440 of good versus evil depending on which side of the fence you're on. That's 312 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:22.359 why you get this sort of tripart nature of the three Nemesis enemies of Superman 313 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:27.440 or these three that are in this abysslike prison that escape that would represent the 314 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:33.480 God of the Bible in this inverse relationship from my perspective, and one's a 315 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.200 female and two are males. I mean, you couldn't get more obvious. 316 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.440 And that s on Superman is you know, kind of like a serpent like 317 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:49.720 and you almost have Yeah, so the imagery is absolutely stark and superheroes are 318 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:56.119 all based on prehistory, and so whether or not it is different kinds of 319 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.599 superheroes. And when I talk about differ kinds, you have you know, 320 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.000 like camera type of superheroes, and you have like a transhumanism with all of 321 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:11.079 these technology sort of parts in it. But the bulk of the superheroes are 322 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:17.920 based on different characters and different kinds of Nephelim before the flood. And you 323 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.000 can make a good argument that some of these are around after the flood as 324 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:26.680 well. So you have you know, these these Dog Superman, right, 325 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:34.640 You've got Wolverine and cartoon ones like Underdog, and there's a Google for dog 326 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:42.200 like superheroes. There's a lot of them. And you have um this jackal 327 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:52.079 god in the in the Bible that's called niebas that it means a barking god, 328 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.240 and it's worshiped by the Auvin, one of the giant tribes. After 329 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:03.680 the flood, and you have a god that would be akin to that in 330 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:10.039 Egypt named Anubis, who produced offspring demigod offspring, and so many of them 331 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:15.000 that they lived in a city called Sinopolies. Notice that Sinopelles is sort of 332 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.640 the term for the dog Methos, right, and so that means dog city 333 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:26.079 sinoopolies, and that's just sort of the tip of the icebergs. So you've 334 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.640 got characters, you know, that are based on lion heroes, you know, 335 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.960 like you know, have the lion King, for example, and you've 336 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:41.000 got that movie with bast producing Black Panther, and Baste was a lion like 337 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:48.079 goddess, and their gal in the Bible was a lion like um god of 338 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:56.119 Mesopotamia, and again a god of the Augene. And you get these lion 339 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.160 like men that are produced in the Bible, the lion like men of Moa, 340 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.519 and you get the lion like men of Gad, and you get the 341 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:10.720 king named Ariok and the Giant Wars of Genesis fourteen. Ariok means a lion 342 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:17.880 like and you get these lion like warriors on these reliefs in Egypt and in 343 00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:22.920 sum Area. So one presumes that there's a lion god that produced these demigods. 344 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:29.119 You've got like the Annunaki, for example, that are in sum Area, 345 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.559 and they're depicted with these wings and they're doing this ritual around this sort 346 00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:41.200 of technology, or some people speculate as a technological tree of life then they've 347 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.119 got these purses and they've got these point pine cones or crystals or whatever they're 348 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.119 holding, but it's a ritual that's going on. Some of them are depicted 349 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.559 with a face of a man, and some of them have a face of 350 00:30:52.599 --> 00:31:00.480 a bird. And what's interesting about that is that you have the ten Goo 351 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:08.880 gods in Southeast Asia, which were bird nephlam bird demigods. They were a 352 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.359 warrior class and a ruling class and a priest class. And if you're google 353 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:17.240 google ten Goo t E n g U, you're gonna get these images that 354 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.799 pop up. You also have in with the Keisha Maya, the with the 355 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.720 Zibalba, they're an owl faced demigod, and they have one that is the 356 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:34.880 caamazats Um branch of the Zibelba, and Camazots means bat, and so this 357 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.160 was the house of the bat that was a separate sort of branch of the 358 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:44.359 Zibelba. And if you google Camazots cma zot z, you're gonna get this 359 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.039 outfit of batman and sort of on and on and on and on that these 360 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:56.279 are all spurious offspring of the rebellious Angelic quarter. And they looked a lot 361 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:02.640 like their um they're they're pro creators, and so one shouldn't be surprised that 362 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:10.279 there's a lot of serpentine superheroes as well. So when we get into the 363 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.920 technology aspect, it's that chimera aspect that you have multiple different parts that are 364 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:22.920 being woven in. That's part of the egypt the Egyptian and the Sumerian and 365 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:28.480 the Greek mythology. Uh. You know, a classic example of chimera type 366 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:37.079 of king is in the epic of Gilgamesh Um for King Habbaba of the theater 367 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.160 force of Mount Herman. I mean this is this is he's got so many 368 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:44.839 different kinds of creatures that are woven into him. He has to be created 369 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:49.799 in a little bit different kind of way. So when we look at the 370 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:54.640 superhero this is a reflection of days of old when these superheroes were ruling the 371 00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:02.000 earth. And most people don't seem to don't make that sort of connection, 372 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:07.960 but it's you can you know, you could just sort of talk endlessly of 373 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:14.400 how many cases that there are for the superheroes. So well said, and 374 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:16.160 there's a few things I want to bounce off everything you just mentioned. First 375 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:22.720 off, I've long said there's nothing organic about our world, including pop culture. 376 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.160 There's reasons for everything that's put in front of us, whether it be 377 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:30.960 movies, cartoons, the news. Everything is done for a particular reason, 378 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:37.200 to evoke a particular emotion, to conquer, to divide. Very rarely is 379 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:44.079 there something organic in our culture? Would you agree with it? Yes, 380 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:51.160 Yes, there's always a reference, there's always a history, and there's you 381 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.039 know, once you dig into those kinds of things, you start to get 382 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:58.119 a better understanding of what was and what is. So yeah, I would 383 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.160 agree with that. Secondly, you speak of Lion King, did you ever 384 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:07.799 hear Bill Cooper's episode when he broke down the Lion King? I will send 385 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.559 that to you after the show. I think it was ninety eight or ninety 386 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.280 nine. Whenever he went and saw the movie, he completely broke it down. 387 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:16.800 It was incredible how he broke that, don I'll send you the little 388 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:21.400 audio clip of it. And then speaking of the epic of Gilgamesh. You 389 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:22.800 know what's very interesting to me. I was in the military for a long 390 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.960 time. We crossed the berm from Kuwait into Iraq, I think it was 391 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:35.559 March two thousand and three, and you started seeing the news starting to have 392 00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:40.719 these on all the websites, news releases about how the tomb of Gelgamesh or 393 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:47.639 Gilgamesh's tomb was in Iraq, and there's obviously Iraq is a very very very 394 00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.599 historical place. It's where obviously where Adam and Eve, the Garden of Eden, 395 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:58.000 that is where the Tigris and Euphrates meet. I've seen that particular area 396 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:02.400 and it is completely nothing like the rest of the desert. I've been in 397 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.039 some places where the where the excuse me, the sand was like talcum powder 398 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.199 and we called it moon dust. But that portion of where the Tigris and 399 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.599 Euphrates, I don't know if you've ever been there, seen the pictures. 400 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:21.119 It's lush, green, it's amazing, but it's also and you know, 401 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.239 after we crossed the Berm, you start to see all the stories they found 402 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:28.840 the tomb of Gilgamesh, and I saw the Ziggurat of her a lot of 403 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:36.039 historical items there, and I think there were obviously some nefarious reasons for going 404 00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.079 into Iraq, and a lot of it might have been for this occult ritual 405 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:44.320 type of stuff. Would you agree with that? I would, And you 406 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.480 know, there's a release at the end of the Obama administration with a flood 407 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:54.079 of you know, unclassified documents, and in there was a discovery of Gilgamesh's 408 00:35:55.039 --> 00:36:01.239 sarcophagus, So I think I think there was a lot of searching going on 409 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:07.840 for ancient technology. One of the things that seems to be the case that 410 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:15.800 isn't really talked about and is sort of denied by modern society is that the 411 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.320 technology that was before is probably greater than what we have today, and we're 412 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.960 just catching up to that. So when we talk about guild Gamesh and the 413 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:31.079 sarcophagus, there's speculation in terms of what people talk about in terms that the 414 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:40.280 sarcophagi were used to heal themselves, to recover, or to stay in stasis, 415 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:49.000 as as some stateent. What we do know is is that these giants 416 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:53.280 and people want to know what a giant is. I think Gilgamesh is a 417 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:59.440 good example. It's not biblical, but it's in the Ugaritic text and its 418 00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.840 exact same as the Scenarian texts. And he was a eleven cubits tall and 419 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:08.599 for cubits why, and he was the son of lugal Banda and a female 420 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:15.840 fertility got us nin and he would be measured on a royal cubit and that 421 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:20.039 was twenty one inches. That would make him nineteen feet tall and seven feet 422 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:23.679 wide. Good grief. This, yeah, good Grief is right because he 423 00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:30.480 was larger than the giants in the Covenant Land, and he was a dark 424 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:37.239 haired giant, which is different than the giants again that were typically were in 425 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.920 the Covenant Land, although in the Mount Herman and Syria region you would have 426 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:45.880 the darker, darker hair giants in there as well. So there's an interesting 427 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:51.880 thing with the Rafaem giants and Gilgamesh is is sixth generation after the flood. 428 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:57.800 There's a Gilgamesh before the flood as well, and that Gilgamesh was recorded in 429 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.880 the Enoch Book of Giants, so it seems like this Gilgamesh received the same 430 00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:07.000 name as Gilgamesh before the flood, which is not an uncommon thing. So 431 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:10.920 it can get a little bit confusing as you're trying to understand the chronology of 432 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.039 when they're talking about Gilgamesh. But in this case, I think it's pretty 433 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:22.639 clear. There's two and the giants after the flood they're not quite as big 434 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.800 and they're not quite as powerful and gifted as the ones before the flood, 435 00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:34.480 and they seem to have fertility issues. So you get this term in the 436 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:39.719 King James version Bible called the Terrible Ones, and that's the Hebrew word rita, 437 00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:47.719 and the I am male plural like a nepheline or gibberin or seraphim drubing 438 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:54.199 it would be air team. And you get all these descriptions of these terrible 439 00:38:54.239 --> 00:39:05.559 ones, and two the meanings are fertility issues and childless. So um, 440 00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:08.559 that's interesting. That's going to require because it's going to require them reproducing with 441 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:13.039 humans so that they don't go extinked after the flood, where the enough flum 442 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:20.000 before the flood populated in in great numbers. And Rite is the root word 443 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:28.039 for yuguryt and the ug for ugur. It seems to be the root word 444 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:36.599 for Semitic for aug and in Hebrew it's uh uwg or owg rooted in uwg 445 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:40.079 which means route round and stout um. And so this seems to be the 446 00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:45.679 city of age, the terrible One, and he's the last of the Refaim 447 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:49.000 after the flood. Now the Refaim, as recorded in the Uguritic tacks, 448 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.880 we're savings. As we've talked about, there were kings, there were giants, 449 00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:00.280 and they were healers that they could in the Uguritic tech. It's not 450 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:06.719 only heal themselves, but they could heal others. And when you look at 451 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:14.920 that word raffa for a postuluvian giant in the male ral rafaem, it's rooted 452 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:20.480 in seventy four ninety five in the Strong's concordance, and that means a healer 453 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:30.239 or a physician because it's it's as and as the word it has some meaning 454 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:37.199 and connection to seventy four ninety seven, which is the word for rafaim giant, 455 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:43.159 and then seventy four ninety six. The one in between is a demon 456 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.960 spirit, an evil spirit, shade, all those types of terms, which 457 00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:52.119 goes to the disembodied spirits of the giants after their bodies died. So you 458 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:55.599 get this sort of relationship with this idea that they could heal themselves, either 459 00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:04.280 through genetics or the sarcopha guy or ball both. Is a technology that certainly 460 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.800 the government would be after, and if it had other powers that went with 461 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:14.000 it, but just the technology that would go into that, and the other 462 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.480 thing that's interesting as you connect into this is that the only way you could 463 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:22.000 kill these giants and make sure they are going to stay dead, was to 464 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.960 take their head so that when Goliath he takes five smooth stones with him, 465 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.840 not because he thinks he's gonna miss but he's prepared to take on the five 466 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:37.960 kings of the Philistine Pentapolis. But he only has to deal with Goliath, 467 00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:43.800 who's from Gath and likely the king who as she will replace after Goliath is 468 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:47.679 dead. That David is going to be taken in by because she's probably feel 469 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:54.280 some sort of obligation or thankfulness to killing Goliath, so he could become king 470 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.599 of Gath. Just my speculation on that part, but it goes to the 471 00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.400 fact that he just didn't kill him with the sling shot. He went over 472 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:07.679 there and grabbed Goliath's sword and took his head. And then the Egyptian Egyptian 473 00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:14.880 execration text, the worst thing that could happen to a royale a giant was 474 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:21.119 to have his head cut off. Interesting, you know what you were talking 475 00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.920 about being able to heal in all those traits very similar to the traits of 476 00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:32.000 the mayor of Virgians, right, yes, yes, And they were typically 477 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.880 depicted as a Gilgamesh type of descriptions that pale skin but this dark hair and 478 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:45.519 dark black beards, and so they probably take their genealogies back to the dark 479 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:52.679 haired arians in terms of the giants after the flood, and that healing power 480 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:54.519 is part of that mythical power that they were said to have. And it's 481 00:42:55.199 --> 00:43:05.320 no real clear when those types of traits not being able to be reproduced as 482 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.440 part of the natural progression of the DNA and the delustion, but if you 483 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:15.519 kept those bloodlines as pure as possible, certainly the royal's downstream some of them 484 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:20.719 may have had that type of healing power that the Meravanians claimed. And that's 485 00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.119 interesting, Gary, because if you look at the well we'll call them elites, 486 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:31.920 you know, Queen Elizabeth, Henry Kissinger. These people live to their 487 00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:36.519 very late nineties, into their you know, into the one hundreds in many 488 00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.639 cases like Kissinger, where folks like you and I, you know, we're 489 00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:44.239 excited if we hit eighty eighty two years old. And you know, my 490 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:49.320 father was mid seventies when he passes. So I think there is something to 491 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.360 and maybe that's part of the air quotes illumination, that they know things that 492 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.719 we don't, that they withhold from us that gives them, you know, 493 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.079 an extra almost a full generation. Would you agree with that? Yeah? 494 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:08.280 Yeah, they either have the ability with some technology or medication to extend their 495 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:16.960 lives, or they have some sort of regentative power that still stays with them, 496 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:21.719 that's passed through the genes, and they would sort of look at themselves 497 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:30.719 as different kinds of of of genealogies. So in the first book, I 498 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:37.280 talk about the gene of Isis, and that's that gene trait that is one 499 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.880 of the genes that giants and royals would take their genealogies back to. Another 500 00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:47.239 one might be the lb gens, and the lb Gens are more of the 501 00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:53.199 Western European gens and also known as the Elvin or the fairy gens as it's 502 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:58.280 called within those societies, that they would have had some of those traits. 503 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.360 And the black nobility of of Italy, for example, would be the Julia 504 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:08.239 gens, and they tracked their genealogies right back to their original patriarchal nephelim and 505 00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:16.679 their original godfathers and how pure that bloodline is and how a noble bloodline is 506 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:22.280 is where you fit in the hierarchy. So the Merovingians, they were considered 507 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.800 the most ennoble bloodline, so they had psioned or grafted in bloodlines that at 508 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:35.360 a purity level that was unmatched, even so much so it would intimidate the 509 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.199 Catholic Church that they didn't take them on for a very long period of time, 510 00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:45.599 and that they seem to have these other mystical traits that they inherited as 511 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:51.880 well. So they were a very unique group of kings that many of the 512 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:58.280 royals today like to track their genealogies back through and believing me, they tracked 513 00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.360 these genealogies. So Prince Charles or King Charles the Third is he's known today, 514 00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:08.079 was on record as taking his genealogy back to Glad the Impaler. I 515 00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:15.760 saw that. Yeah, and Glad the Impaler they took their bloodlines back to 516 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:28.360 the Agriphi tribe in Scythia that was produced by Hercules as the patriarch. So 517 00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.599 yeah, So it's important to them whether or not we believe in those genealogies 518 00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.840 or not. They do, and we need to be aware of that because 519 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.079 it's what they do with their belief system that we should be concerned with. 520 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.719 Well said chapter three of your book, and this is going to lead into 521 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:51.320 a listener question. The sons of God talk about God intervening against this perversion 522 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:57.000 to the natural order of creation by restricting the lifespan of all forms of human 523 00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.760 kind to one hundred and twenty years, include the future posterity of the Falling 524 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:06.800 Angels and the Nephelim. And our first question is one of our long time 525 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.880 listeners, Ben and he says, how and why was man's life limited to 526 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:15.280 one hundred and twenty years after Noah? And then he has a follow up. 527 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.440 He wants to know why did his son look different Enoch. He's referring 528 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:30.480 to, Yeah, two two very good questions. So when you look at 529 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:35.239 Noah, I think he's saying, Noah is uh, you know, look 530 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:45.079 differently than the others, right, right? So he was a glowing baby, 531 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:51.239 and they thought he was a child of the giants, and that shows 532 00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:58.480 up in the book of Enoch. And you know, their parents are so 533 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.679 concerned that they're going to go to Enoch and say, is this not my 534 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:07.119 child, right or our child? And Enoch assures him that he is. 535 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:13.000 But he's there for a special commission and he has so I guess, invested 536 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:17.239 powers that would go with that to do that. So he's at least according 537 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.199 to the Book of Enoch It gives the explanation. Whether or not people think 538 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.960 that's accurate or not, that's a to them, but that's what the Book 539 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.920 of Enochs is. So now, in terms of the life being limited to 540 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:36.280 one hundred and twenty years, that included humans and the fallen ones, and 541 00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:44.320 before that you would have the sentence of Adam living to great age like eight 542 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.880 eight hundred years, right, nine hundred years right, So it wasn't just 543 00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:54.400 the giants whose age was going to be limited because they were given something that 544 00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:59.639 was unique with that counterfeit spirit that was passed on to them. They also 545 00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:04.000 made your body's immortal, So not only did they have an immortal spirit, 546 00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:07.639 but they had an immortal body in the physical world that the humans didn't have, 547 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:13.800 even though the humans were long lived. So God decides that he's going 548 00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:15.960 to limit all life two hundred and twenty years, and a lot of people 549 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:20.840 think that that's the commission length of Noah, but it has nothing to do 550 00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.800 with Noah. I mean, Noah's commission begins in you know, just after 551 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:30.599 Genesis six four and when the sons are born, and when he gets on 552 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:32.760 the arc is only one hundred years and I think the Bible would have accurate 553 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.400 math, but that's just me. And but the languages you take that back 554 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:42.840 to, Hebrew is clearly talking about you know, life and the life force 555 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:49.199 one hundred and twenty years was designed not to have these demigods that could live 556 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:55.679 for millennial with the size that they had and the advantages that they had that 557 00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:05.199 it was part of, I think, or the not eliminating the capability to 558 00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.760 create these giants because we have the reffi em that show up after the flood, 559 00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:13.679 but the giants that are going to be born thereafter are going to be 560 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.119 smaller, I think, and they're going to have other limitations, and one 561 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:21.760 of those was that infertility issue. And you know in the Ugaritic text after 562 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:28.039 the flood, they're trying to bring Baal and astroll back to by doing fertility 563 00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:35.400 rituals so that they can reproduce more refi em because they're not able to produce 564 00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:38.159 in the same way that the Nephilim we're able to produce before the flood. 565 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:44.719 So I think there's some changes that happens with that implementation that rolls forward after 566 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:49.679 the flood as well. That makes a lot of sense. And also when 567 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.440 you would look at it. It's God's way of limiting power to as we 568 00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:57.360 talked about the nephilium, etc. I could almost compare that to putting tonal 569 00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.960 limits on politicians down here. You know, in the US, we have 570 00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:06.159 these creatures that have been in office for fifty sixty years and that they contain 571 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:08.760 this power, and that's one of the biggest problems we have in this country 572 00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.519 down here in the United States. Gary, Yeah, it is, and 573 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.280 so I think that's exactly why it was put in it. There would be 574 00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:23.719 generations and generations and they wouldn't be able to collect that power because once they 575 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:27.920 get ahold of that, it's very hard to take that away. So it 576 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:30.840 has to be passed on in some sort of format. So yeah, I 577 00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.239 would agree with that as a good analogy. And a lot of people would 578 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.880 say that most of the politicians are the descendants of giants, so that's why 579 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:44.480 they don't want term limits exactly. That's another a dot connected today. I 580 00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:46.920 did want to go back to the size of them because there's another verse in 581 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:52.360 the Bible numbers thirteen, verse thirty three, and it talks about it, 582 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.800 and there we excuse me, and there we saw the giants, the sons 583 00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:00.360 of Anak which come of the giants, and this part just think about it. 584 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:05.920 And we were in our own site as grasshoppers, and so we were 585 00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:13.119 in their site. Yeah, And what's interesting in that they're talking about the 586 00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:17.440 anachem that they saw, because it says the anachem are the children of giants, 587 00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:23.079 and that's the Hebrew word nephila and nilim, that's the plural. So 588 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:30.599 what's going on there is a testimony to the size of the giants that were 589 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:37.400 before the flood in kind of a way to scare the Israelites. So let 590 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:43.840 me sort of explain that. So Nephelim shows up only three times in the 591 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:47.880 Hebrew Old Testament, once in Genesis six four and twice in numbers at thirteen 592 00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:52.840 thirty three. Every other time except for one, and that one other time 593 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:59.159 is in the Book of Job where it's translated the King James version of giant. 594 00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.440 It goes back to gibbor or Gibberine, which is which is the mighty 595 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:08.480 one, meaning in Genesis six four to describe the giants. All the other 596 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:14.039 times in the Bible, over twenty five times where it says giant, it 597 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:22.440 goes back to Rafa or Rafaim, and so the Anakim are described in Deuteronomy 598 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:29.679 too as giants. But going back to the word rafa rafaim a is the 599 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:35.519 plural, and Rafaim shows up as a tribe of giants in Genesis fourteen and 600 00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:39.400 the War of Giants, and then in Genesis fifteen as a tribe that is 601 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:44.639 one of the peoples that are mentioned in the land that Abraham is being granted 602 00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:49.599 as an inheritance for his descendants. And there's other giants in there as well, 603 00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:57.519 but that's a specific one. So Ahmad, Talma, and Cheshi are 604 00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:01.920 the three Anakim kings, and they are the children of a knack, as 605 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:08.159 it's described in the accurate part of their report that Caleb and Joshua are reporting. 606 00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:15.599 But the terrified scouts who do want to take these monsters on are describing 607 00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:21.280 them as nephialin not refaem, and so they're trying to scare the Israelites. 608 00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:28.159 But what that's telling you is is that the Israelites understood how large these giants 609 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:32.440 were before the flood, and as we mentioned that they were significantly larger and 610 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.119 they were light grasshoppers. It's not a direct measurement comparison, it's more of 611 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.679 a simile, but it gives you that sort of imagery. But these weren't 612 00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:45.239 nephaline. These were refaem, So it was designed to scare the people. 613 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:52.320 But they were significantly larger than the Israelites, who would have had like an 614 00:54:52.480 --> 00:55:00.320 average height of let's say five to five and a half feet, and these 615 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:07.880 giants were much larger. So you have one description of the size of a 616 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:15.159 specific giant, and that's four hundred or four hundred years later with the Goliath 617 00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.719 story. And he is six cubits and a span and the king of Gas. 618 00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.920 So but even if you measured on a standard eighteen inch versus the royal 619 00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:27.760 cubit of twenty one, he'd be nine feet nine inches tall and described as 620 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:36.000 very stout and wide, and or eleven ft three inches tall. So no 621 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.960 matter what dimension you're going to apply to him, he's going to be a 622 00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:45.760 giant by a human sort of standard. And the other description that we get 623 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:52.920 biblically is Oug's bed, and his bed is described and he's the king of 624 00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:59.119 not only the Yigrette, but afterwards the War of Giants. He moves into 625 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:07.599 the Mount Herman region and he's king over sixty cities twelve Pentapolize that he's ruling 626 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.559 over. He's a very powerful king, and he's called the last of the 627 00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:15.400 Giants or the last of the Reffeime, and likely the last of the original 628 00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:22.800 Ruffeeme creation. After the flood, and his bed was kept on display in 629 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:28.119 the town of Raba to remind the Israelites of the size of the giants that 630 00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:32.000 they were dealing with. So this bed was nine cubits long and four cubits 631 00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:37.719 y, so on a royal cubits, as being king log and as Josephus 632 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:44.280 said, you should measure the giants in the covenant land on a royal cubit. 633 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:49.480 Then that would make that bed close to sixteen feet long and seven feet 634 00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.719 wide, and for him to fit into it would be he'd be minimum twelve 635 00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:59.920 feet tall, and he would be probably more like fourteen to fifteen feet tall, 636 00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.000 not as big as Gilgamash, but big nonetheless, And he would have 637 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:07.400 been four to five feet wide. So again with that similar kind of two 638 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.440 to one hype the width ratio that they had. So these just weren't tall. 639 00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.039 These were and then when I say the word stout, yeah, they 640 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:20.199 were wide. They weren't fat. They were muscularly stout, as that was 641 00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:27.719 understood, and powerful and strong. So these uh descriptions of these giants in 642 00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:37.320 that are being seen in the report by the Scouts and the Anachem. The 643 00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:43.920 Egyptian records of Telmi put them at about twelve feet tall, which is in 644 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.559 the same range, you know, a log and a little bit taller than 645 00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:52.519 goliaths. So these were giants that they were saying they were at least twice 646 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:57.679 their size. Um So one when we look at some of these descriptions, 647 00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.760 when it says like, yes, it's to give you that imagery, but 648 00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.639 it's not that direct sort of proportion. How big were the giants before the 649 00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:09.840 flood? You know, we really don't know. We're told in the giazz 650 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:15.760 version of the Book of Enoch, which is the longer version, that there 651 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:22.079 were three hundred ls. In the Aramaic version you get that not translated as 652 00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:27.119 l's but as cubits, and so that would make them four hundred and fifty 653 00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:31.400 to five hundred feet tall, which I think might be a little bit larger 654 00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:38.320 than I would expect. And L seems to be the older term that's recognized 655 00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:43.079 that comes down through prehistory, but nobody knows what the measurement of an l 656 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:47.000 is. And in the Aramaic version, it's thought that they used cubits because 657 00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:50.679 they didn't know what other measurement to apply there, and they knew they were 658 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:54.239 talking about these massive giants, So we don't really know how big they are. 659 00:58:54.280 --> 00:59:00.280 I think they're at least twenty to forty feet tall, so they were 660 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:02.599 they were quite a bit bigger, I think, than than the post Luvian 661 00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:07.280 giants. My goodness. Since we're on giants, so I'm going to throw 662 00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.760 this other listener question to you, and it's actually more current, and Catherine 663 00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:15.760 would like to know, have you heard the story about the Candahar Giant and 664 00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:21.800 what are your thoughts on it if you have. Yeah, after you know 665 00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.760 I had written my book, I had listened to an interview that I think 666 00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:32.920 that she's referencing on Coast to Coast and they had Steve Quail and the helicopter 667 00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:42.679 pilot, and I was absolutely impressed by the detail, and not only the 668 00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:47.360 detail on the military side, in terms of the tactics, the equipment, 669 00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:52.679 what they did, what happened, how he was presenting himself, his position, 670 00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:58.719 but the details on the description of the giant, and it was almost 671 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:02.480 right out of the description that I put in in chapter four in my book, 672 01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:08.320 and um I was. I walked away, and I had two thoughts 673 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:13.400 on it, and I thought to myself, either that is a hoax and 674 01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:20.800 they and that individual's fed information by people who are adept and had to have 675 01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:28.360 ancient records of this um or he was telling the truth, and I tend 676 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.960 to think he was probably telling the truth. For me, it's the only 677 01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:40.039 sort of real legitimate witnessing that I've heard in terms of the detail content that 678 01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:46.079 you would suggest that giants might there might still be ones around, either coming 679 01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:53.119 out of stasis or being recreated or somehow showing up into this age. It 680 01:00:53.360 --> 01:01:00.840 was to me, it was was that impressive. So either counts don't seem 681 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.199 to for me to have that type of credibility. So but that one stands 682 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:10.719 out to me as if there are still those kind of giants around that that 683 01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:14.480 would be a testimony to it. And you know, the description of how 684 01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:20.280 difficult it was to kill, and how fleet of foot and able to back 685 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:25.119 weapons out of the air, and just it was just everything about it was 686 01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:30.320 was to me very very accurate. So yeah, I would suggest that that 687 01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:37.280 that's legitimate, but you know, I have I don't have a video on 688 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:40.280 it or anything like that, but I thought it was very credible. Yeah, 689 01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:45.519 you know, during my time in Iraq, there would be tales at 690 01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.519 when it would be at the chow hall or whatever and that topic. Because 691 01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:52.199 I think that went down in two thousand and two, and I think it 692 01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.880 was spec ops that were involved in that. And you know, the guys 693 01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:59.679 who came in who didn't have their name tags on. You know, it's 694 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.000 pretty much under the radar. Would you would hear that story and be very 695 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:06.239 intriguing. But you know, when you're in the army and you're deployed, 696 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:07.480 we have a lot, we have a lot of time, so we kind 697 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:12.079 of, you know, it's our thing to make yarns, maybe expand stories, 698 01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.000 just like when we go fishing and we talk about we had a three 699 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:22.199 footer that got away. But I will tell you that story was told back 700 01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:24.519 at least I think the first time I heard it might have been oh, 701 01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:28.360 four oh five. It's really hard with dates anymore, but that is something 702 01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:31.800 that was kind of talked about on that side of the earth back in the 703 01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:37.519 day. Very interesting My next question for you is, I want to kind 704 01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:42.360 of go back to chapter five, excuse me, verse five, and God 705 01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:46.519 saw the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination 706 01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:52.119 of the thoughts of his heart was only evil. Continually, could you expound 707 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.800 a little bit on what you think the exact wickedness God saw? Obviously a 708 01:02:55.920 --> 01:03:01.599 big part of it would be the giants interacting with the humans, creating uh, 709 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:06.039 you know these people, but what other evils do you think they portrayed? 710 01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:10.239 And that that got God so worked up, kind of like you know 711 01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:14.760 a painter that puts a lot of time and effort into something then just decides 712 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:16.280 it's not right and he kind of crumples it up and throws it away. 713 01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:24.760 Because that's basically what God did, right Sands Noah and the ones. Yeah, 714 01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:28.639 so that we'll start with the violence and work into some of the other 715 01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:34.079 stuff. And when we're talking about violence, this is violence against everything on 716 01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:39.920 the earth, violence against humans, eating humans, drinking their blood, ritual 717 01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:45.920 sacrifice. But they weren't satisfied with just that. They would war with themselves 718 01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:53.679 and it was sort of perpetual war, and the whole world was just full 719 01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:59.360 of violence. Because of these giants, and that's part of the context for 720 01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:02.400 that violence, the creation of these giants. As to how the world became 721 01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:11.760 so violent, Yes, the Canaanites were you know, evil according to the 722 01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:17.039 Bible, but they didn't reach the level of the of the giants. They 723 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:23.880 were just on a whole different classes themselves. Now, the wickedness that's going 724 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:29.360 on is um you know, every sort of thing that God would probably not 725 01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:34.480 want to see um. But we see that today and we haven't had an 726 01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:40.519 apocalypse nature, and we won't see that to the end time, but we 727 01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:45.559 get a better understanding of what the wickedness was. And those who are causing 728 01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:49.760 the violence did that we're ruling the world because they usurp to kingships like they 729 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:57.599 when they had enslaved the humans and there were you know, creating genocide against 730 01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:04.159 the humans. But the Buds says that the whole world was corrupt. The 731 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:11.920 world was corrupted, and that's the Hebrew word shikok, and so the earth 732 01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:19.280 was completely corrupt and that means the k ruined destroyed. Words like that. 733 01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:30.320 That suggests that there's more going on here that isn't totally reflected in the historical 734 01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:36.719 accounts. And what that is is the ability to change DNA in humans, 735 01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:44.679 the ability to create chimera type of animals, the ability to manipulate DNA, 736 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:51.880 the ability to manipulate the genome. You know, you have this mythical course 737 01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:59.199 that was written by the Nepheling before the flood called the Unicorn, and as 738 01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:03.440 you see it kind of depicted on the Windsors or the Hanovers or the Stuart's 739 01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:11.920 coat of arms, and this was generally a white horse. Sometimes we're black, 740 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:15.880 but generally they were white. And they were the perfect chimera animal created 741 01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:21.440 for war. And I already mentioned King Baba as a sort of chimera. 742 01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:26.400 So you have all of these things that are going on with these fantastic beings 743 01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:33.440 that were destroying and recreating life on the planet so much so that the whole 744 01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:39.639 earth was corrupt. So that means all almost all of the plant genome, 745 01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:45.880 all of the animal DNA, almost all of the human DNA had been corrupted. 746 01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:54.119 And only the eight selected for the Bible, both spiritually and physically, 747 01:06:54.199 --> 01:07:00.639 would were selected to go on the arc. And only the animal as the 748 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:05.119 best represented the species, which is the biblical word kind as it's it's expressed 749 01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:12.039 was there that could be able to repopulate it with without this corrupted DNA after 750 01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:20.360 the flood, and we get this methos of this cute, cuddly little horse 751 01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:26.400 that's the unicorn, right, and that it missed the arc and this methos 752 01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:30.280 because it was so playful, it missed the calling to come to the ark. 753 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:33.039 And that's why God called the animals to the arc, because he selected 754 01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:39.119 the animals, right. It's not that they didn't hear the call. It's 755 01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:43.760 because they weren't cute and cuddly. They were these camaro type, you know, 756 01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:48.199 warm machines um for for the nphylee, and they didn't get a call 757 01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:51.760 to the ark. They didn't miss the call. It's just a sort of 758 01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:58.840 a reimagination of what was going on. I cover off the uh the unicorn 759 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:02.000 in in in the can book and give a full complete description of it, 760 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:09.760 and I'll also suggest that the unicorn goes deeper in its meaning and also represents 761 01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:14.159 an angelic being as well. That's interesting how backwards everything is. I bet 762 01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:16.000 you a third of the little girls who go to bed every night in the 763 01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:19.039 United States go to bed with little stuffed unicorn, you know, little stuffed 764 01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:26.520 animal unicorn. Yeah, then that's something. Yeah, it's not like the 765 01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:29.840 unicorn was out of the cell tower distance and missed a phone call. There's 766 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:34.159 a reason that the unicorns didn't get a call to the arc. Yeah. 767 01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:39.359 And then they try and recreate these these giant horses for the rough I am 768 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:43.479 to ride after the flood, and you see these white stallions that come down 769 01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:46.600 through history. And you know, there's an interesting painting with the two Autha 770 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:50.920 did a nan or as a shay sid as they're called. And the painting 771 01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:57.319 is called the Riders of the Shay and it has these pale too author did 772 01:08:57.399 --> 01:09:02.199 a nan giants and all sorts of occult imaory on it. And they're riding 773 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:06.119 these white horses and they have these gold helmets on them, on these horses 774 01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:12.920 that have this unicornspike on it um. And again they were sort of you 775 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:17.800 know, decorating their Posteluvian horses that they rode into battle at like they would, 776 01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:26.720 uh, you know, to represent the antidiluvian um u unicorns. And 777 01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:32.319 you have the nice sea and white horses that the Persians bread and bread for 778 01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:38.600 war and for the chariots, and the Persian kings would ride and have as 779 01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:44.000 part of their horses, you know, pulling their their chariots. And these 780 01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:47.720 were bread for the larger rough I m. Kings, just as many of 781 01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:51.039 the Persian kings were depicted as giants too. You don't get too much of 782 01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:57.159 that imagery today, but they were classified as like eight nine feet tall, 783 01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:03.079 so to be a little little bit more deluded in that height as you're you 784 01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:10.319 know, as you're going further into the unfolding of history, but all in 785 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:15.600 the same sort of mode that they were just trying to emulating the ancient Neapholine. 786 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:21.279 Thank you for explaining that, I imagine one of the biggest I don't 787 01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:28.119 want to say pushbacks, but I guess the most question you get is how 788 01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:31.720 did they survive? What's the connection with post flood? You know, there's 789 01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:35.319 been many people who have written articles about the you know, the seed of 790 01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:42.640 Cain, the bloodline of Caine, and you know, how did this evil 791 01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:50.760 survive the flood and continue one. Yeah, there's really only three ways that 792 01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:56.720 it could sort of come about, and I have my preferred position. But 793 01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.720 because we don't have a Genesis six four after the flood, we don't have 794 01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:06.479 the smoking gun passage that I would call we have a lot of things that 795 01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:11.560 might point one way or another, but we don't have that smoking gun verse 796 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:16.399 except that these giants show up, and there's lots of them and lots of 797 01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:20.960 different tribes of them, so we know that they do show up. So 798 01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:30.960 I'll start with my least favorite position is is somehow on the arc and somehow 799 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:34.079 on the arc. Bucket would include that, just as we saw in the 800 01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:41.880 last Noah movie where he had Tubalcane depicted as a stowaway. In Jewish mysticism, 801 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:45.279 it was King Og who was a stowaway, so kind of a stowaway 802 01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:49.479 sort of method. In other versions, you have that the genes of the 803 01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:57.479 wives were carrying the giant genes and that's how they show up in the Canaanites 804 01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:01.359 after the flood. I kind of think that kind of contrary to trying to 805 01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:06.359 start new without getting a corruption after the flood, and that the wives likely 806 01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:12.199 probably carried the genes of all four races, which is why we have the 807 01:12:12.279 --> 01:12:16.199 four races after the flood. Just sort of my speculation on that, but 808 01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:24.439 I can't discount it because again we don't have the actual way they show up 809 01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:29.399 after the flood, and then gnastics will also say that Ham was a giant, 810 01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:34.000 and other gnastic accounts will say all three sons were giants, and then 811 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:39.159 other nastic accounts will say all of the members of the Heart were giants. 812 01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:44.279 So outside the Bible you get a number of different ways. So that's the 813 01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:49.720 first bucket. The second bucket is somehow with the help of fallen angels. 814 01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:56.640 So fallen angels, even though they rebelled, then they have the power of 815 01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:00.119 free will and free choice, and God lets things play out through free choice 816 01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:04.880 until the end. Until the end time, and everything that we're seeing today 817 01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:12.560 is still being played out through free choice of us fallen angelic beings, loyal 818 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:19.800 angelic beings, and whatever spurious creations were created by the fallen angels. And 819 01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:25.479 so somehow with the help of fallen angels, that either means off the earth, 820 01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:30.119 as like with Amaka Seth where he's taken into a cloud in the Gnostic 821 01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:35.479 tradition, and there's two different kinds of giant races as their tradition goes out 822 01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:41.159 of some of the Gnostic texts, I would also say in the earth somehow, 823 01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:47.880 either in another dimension or underground cities or whatever. Protection that the fallen 824 01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:54.399 angels could provide for them. I would also include with angelic help on another 825 01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:59.520 arc. And the reason why I say that is is because going back to 826 01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:04.119 the pick up Gilgamesh, you have Gilgamesh who's classified as two thirds God and 827 01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:10.199 one third human. A demigod Nkie Dew is classified the same way, who 828 01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:15.600 is created in the same way as Gilgamesh after the flood to offset the tyrant 829 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:21.159 nature of Gilgamesh. But Gilgamesh seeks out up a Pishton or Zaya Zudra in 830 01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:28.520 other translations of the same story, and he is the archetypical Nephilim two thirds 831 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:33.600 God one third human before the flood, who's the king of Sumer at the 832 01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:38.960 time of the flood, and all of his family, who are two thirds 833 01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:43.039 God and one third human are put on the arc for survival as well. 834 01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:47.119 So you're getting in the arc story the survival of giants on another arc, 835 01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:51.239 not humans, but giants. And then you have the same sort of thing 836 01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:59.279 happening in Greek history and mythologies. You have Dukalian that's described as the Greek 837 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.960 Oha on an arc and his wife Kiera. The thing is is that Ducalian 838 01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:11.039 is son of Prometheus, which makes him a nephelum. So that's another enophilum 839 01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:18.119 survival story. So in those stories it is the angels who build the arc 840 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:27.640 for um for up Piston, and in other accounts around the world you have 841 01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:32.199 these giants surviving on an arc as well, So that's a that's a possibility 842 01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:39.520 through the help of fallen angels, and that may mean than that nephelum, 843 01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:45.239 some of them did survive into the post Bolivian world, and you would have, 844 01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:48.520 you know, larger ones than the than the refaim. And maybe Gilgamesh 845 01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:54.880 was part of the original nephalim or bloodline of the original nepheleim as, being 846 01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:59.520 sixth generation, which is why he was larger. I think there's maybe a 847 01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:03.119 different reason to that, but I'll stay on topic if I can, because 848 01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:08.920 I tend to go down these grabbit holes no worries a while sometimes. So 849 01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:15.279 my favor position that was second incursion, and I'll explain that in a second. 850 01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:18.439 But I should go back to that. If people wanted to make an 851 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:27.960 argument for survival, you could make a very interesting and legal argument that. 852 01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:30.319 In Genesis six and in Genesis seven, in the flood story, God says 853 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:40.359 he's going to destroy everything he created, and the enough poem were created by 854 01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:45.960 fall angels, so you could make that legal argument that this was the start 855 01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:49.600 anew, but he wasn't going to prevent the survival of the creations of the 856 01:16:49.720 --> 01:16:57.239 fallen angels. And in that case, they could have also had survivors of 857 01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:01.920 the other types of creatures that they had created, some chimera vehicle creatures, 858 01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:10.479 little people as the elements are called, maybe some serpentine creatures, like they've 859 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:15.319 managed to save some of them a hash before they were totally taken down to 860 01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:18.680 serpent status that we that we understand now as opposed to a walking, talking, 861 01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:25.840 intelligent human being that deceived Adam, and even in the garden that we 862 01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:30.800 don't get a good explanation for where it came from. In fact, we 863 01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:34.359 don't get any explaination other that was classified as a beast of the field that 864 01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:40.159 would have been created in day five. But that's another rabbit hole. So 865 01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:47.239 second incursion I think fits better biblically, and I think we get a lot 866 01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:51.880 of things that sort of reference Second incursion. So I have a document for 867 01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:57.479 people if they want to get a hold of me through my website, just 868 01:17:57.600 --> 01:18:01.079 asked for the second incursion document, and all sense that to you and I 869 01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:05.399 walk through everything because it's a it's a fairly large document. But for me, 870 01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:15.680 we have accounts of second incursion, and we have accounts that aligned perfectly 871 01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:20.159 with the refa em with second incursion and showing up as the rafa em with 872 01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:30.640 the Uguritic texts, which has the root word for refiem, which is rpm 873 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:34.319 and transliterates as Rapu and rap pm in the Uguritic texts that are created by 874 01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:43.760 Baal and astroff with Canaanites, and so we get the same name that's used 875 01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:46.800 in the Bible for these giants. That is a parallel account that suggests that 876 01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:51.439 they were created after the flood because Ball rules after the flood. His father 877 01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:57.520 l ruled before the flood, and L for those crimes would have went to 878 01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:03.840 the Abyss. And that's why Baal and astro aren't around when the refaim are 879 01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:10.760 doing their rituals to bring them back to create more refaim, because they've been 880 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:15.079 sent to the Abyss for the same crimes as their parents did, as they're 881 01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:21.000 described as offspring gods. Zeus, for example, creates Hercules after the flood 882 01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:29.680 through alchemy, and you have Gilgam actually being created after the flood. So 883 01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:35.520 we get other accounts of giants being created after the flood, and we have 884 01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:44.199 these refaim that show up after the flood that have no specific sort of verse 885 01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:48.399 for their creation, but one presumes that they would have been created in the 886 01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:54.159 same way as Genesis six four talks about, where it talks about when the 887 01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:58.520 sons of God went to the daughters of men, and they did so again. 888 01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:04.119 But again it's not smoking gun as to when again is except that it's 889 01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:09.439 done in the same way and then afterwards, And that could mean more we're 890 01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:13.920 created before the flood came, which likely happened, And I could also mean 891 01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:19.760 that the sons of God went to human females again after the flood to recreate 892 01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:23.840 them, which I think you can extend to that as well, And we 893 01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:28.760 certainly get a different kind of giant that shows up a flood. So I 894 01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:35.560 tend to think that second creation of giants after the flood and probably at Sodom 895 01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:45.039 makes makes the most sense for the creation of the giants from a biblical perspective. 896 01:20:45.079 --> 01:20:49.039 So that's where I lean to heavily. But again I have to reopened 897 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:53.640 that because we don't have that smoking versus how they show up after the flood. 898 01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.840 So the first sin happened in the garden of Veeden where the creation took 899 01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:03.720 and then the worst sin took place in Sadom, the second creation on a 900 01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:10.720 certain Yeah, what are the odds? Yeah? So yeah, And in 901 01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:17.039 the Anastic account you have giants with amaka set that were first planted in Gomorrah 902 01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:21.800 before the flood, and then in Sodom after the flood. And again so 903 01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:29.600 even in an Austic account, you get a recreation at Sodom. And what's 904 01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:34.640 interesting about the city of Sodom is is that's where the angels go to destroy 905 01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:42.239 the city, and the inhabitants are wanting to have sex with these angels who 906 01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:46.079 look like men, And so two things are going on there. One is 907 01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:56.000 there's a homosexual intent there sure, or they have an understanding that these angels 908 01:21:56.039 --> 01:21:59.039 can take any form that they want, or they could have sex with their 909 01:21:59.119 --> 01:22:02.840 daughters to produce more giants. And so were they wanting to just have sex 910 01:22:02.960 --> 01:22:12.520 or do they want to produce more giants for the same reasons that the refaim 911 01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:16.159 in the text wanted to have bail and Astrath come back to help produce more 912 01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:20.119 and more giants. And so in the time of Sodom, you're having this 913 01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:26.359 delution and this infertility thing kick in, and they may have been wanting to 914 01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:30.479 utilize them or you know, turn them to be able to produce more giants. 915 01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:34.800 And when you get into second Peter and Jude one and is talking about 916 01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:41.520 this conversation again, they're wanting to have sex with strange flesh, and as 917 01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:47.279 you take that back to Greek, it could mean a different species. So 918 01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:56.119 I'm open to what was going on with all the different kinds of sins in 919 01:22:56.279 --> 01:23:00.880 Sodom and Gomorrah, but I think they would have clearly understood that if they're 920 01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:03.920 ruled by Rafael on kings at that time, and they were, and that 921 01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:10.800 they understood that the fallen angels could reproduce more giants. That may have been 922 01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:16.439 going on at that time. That's interesting. I have a two part question 923 01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:19.760 for you. The first part, if you look at Genesis sixth, chapter 924 01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:24.800 verse nine, excuse me, it talks about how Noah was a just man 925 01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:30.600 and perfect in his generations. Men would like to ask, do you have 926 01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:35.159 a thought on what bloodline or specifically I guess what blood type they were. 927 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:47.119 Uh, I could only speculate, and a lot of people would and disagree 928 01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:51.479 with me on it, But I would say positive as opposed to negative. 929 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:59.520 And the reason why I say that is the Royals tend to be more H 930 01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:05.439 than RH positive and there seems to be an insertion of the RH negative at 931 01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:10.800 some point in time in human history that's not clearly sort of defined as to 932 01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:16.319 when that might be. Now. The standard argument is is that you can't 933 01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:21.560 insert the RH negative because it's missing the d antigen, so you can't insert 934 01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:27.640 something that wasn't there, right, So, but it's not the bloodline that's 935 01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:31.800 inserted, it's the genes that are inserted. It's the genes that would produce 936 01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:39.279 this RH negative blood and that's that intermarriage to create the Chazoo, the giants 937 01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:45.439 that were the hybrids that were six to nine feet tall versus you know, 938 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:50.880 the nine and larger is what the rafaim and other giants were described as. 939 01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:58.239 So I think what's going on here is is that you're having this RH negative 940 01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:00.600 from the gene of Isis, from the l begins, from the Julia gens, 941 01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:06.520 from all the different sort of genes of the original demigods after the blood 942 01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:13.279 that is being passed on into human kind and able to you know, that 943 01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:19.880 produces the negative blood. So from that type of deduction, I would presume 944 01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:26.319 Noah would have been positive. I agree, And that is something that we 945 01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:30.720 talk about a lot on the podcast. Is the rh was that the rh 946 01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:35.000 negative? That? It seems a lot of the folks who you know are 947 01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:39.920 kind of in control of the narrative, seem to be a part of So 948 01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:44.119 I agree with you. There now a part two the very same verse. 949 01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:45.600 It talks about how Noah's a just man, he walked with the God, 950 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:50.560 he begat three sons, shem, Him and Japeth. Now the question is, 951 01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:56.520 obviously they build the ark, opens the windows of the heavens, and 952 01:25:56.680 --> 01:26:00.640 it floods for forty days forty nights, the water recedes and then comes. 953 01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:03.760 You know, one of the most controversial texts in the Bible that has been 954 01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:09.840 debated for centuries, you know, you know a couple thousand years, which 955 01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:13.720 is the Curse of Ham and the effects it has on the bloodline. What 956 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:17.720 are your thoughts and what happened with the Curse of Ham. Yeah, it's 957 01:26:17.720 --> 01:26:25.560 an interesting passage, and you know, the curse doesn't land on Ham. 958 01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:31.760 It lands on Canan right right right, and which is really kind of interesting, 959 01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:40.640 and it's like a a prophetic curse. So you get a similar type 960 01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:45.399 of prophetic curse that happens in Genesis three with the Seat of the Serpent, 961 01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:51.439 and so it's going to happen in not that just of the future, but 962 01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:57.560 it's a curse that's going to be fulfilled through a prophecy, right absolutely, 963 01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:01.560 and so this is similar kind of curse and it comes with the authority of 964 01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:08.239 God, just as you have that asserted in Genesis three. So this is 965 01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:14.039 a serious crime, but it doesn't pass on to Ham and only to one 966 01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:17.880 of his sons, which is you know, kind of odd and or er 967 01:27:18.039 --> 01:27:26.520 at is actually means curse. So it's the it happens on Mountain Herman or 968 01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:30.319 Mount ra At the you know, in a cursed mountain, so to speak, 969 01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:34.039 where this crime took place. So a lot of people believe that as 970 01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:45.000 you get into the language of the language that's used in in in in the 971 01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:53.640 book of Genesis with with the Ham account, you have h a suggestion that 972 01:27:54.800 --> 01:28:02.760 him is having sex with Noah's wife, and that's that's the crime the troubles 973 01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:09.159 with that is that when you get into the laws as it's described in the 974 01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:16.880 Applications and throughout the Book of the Old Testament, is that there are certain 975 01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:25.640 descriptions that you could apply to that in terms of uncovering in this case of 976 01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:31.119 Ham, and that would apply to having sex with maybe his daughter or his 977 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:38.079 mother or his wife that you could apply it to. But in those examples, 978 01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:45.840 when a husband is being uncovered and accepts that sort of shame of what's 979 01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:54.199 happened to one of this family members, that family member is explicitly stated, 980 01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:01.840 Well, Noah's wife isn't explicit stated only Ham. Only Ham was uncovered, 981 01:29:01.880 --> 01:29:05.720 and only and Ham knew what I mean, only Noah was uncovered, and 982 01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:15.600 Noah knew what had happened to him. And this seems to be a homosexual 983 01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:24.479 violation when Ham was drunk, and why it was deemed so a cursed and 984 01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:31.880 canaan. In response, they tend to marry with fallen angels after the flood 985 01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:36.960 because they don't want to accept the curse of servitude for this crime, and 986 01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:45.520 they don't follow Ham to Africa, and they produced the hybrids. And if 987 01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:50.520 you look in the Book of Genesis, ten you have and first chronicles in 988 01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:56.159 the table of nations, you have Canaan and two sons named to Canaan named 989 01:29:56.640 --> 01:30:03.359 aside On in half, and then you have nine patriarchs tribes. All the 990 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:15.079 other patriarchs in the table of nations have a specific patriarch named and of course 991 01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:23.720 Canan is the patriarch of Sidon and Heath. Where you don't have patriarchs listed 992 01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:32.640 in the table of nations are Rafae patriarchs. So for Arba in the Book 993 01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:40.720 of Joshua is the patriarch of the Anachem that we talked about earlier. But 994 01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:45.920 Arba doesn't show up in the table of nations. Rafa which is thought to 995 01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:53.960 be the patriarch for the Rafaem, doesn't show up in the table of nations. 996 01:30:56.239 --> 01:31:00.880 Only the human patriarch show up. But you get nine pat rearkless tribes 997 01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:08.840 like the Amorites, the Jebusites, the Hivites, nine of them. And 998 01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:15.239 these are the tribes that were created through the daughters of Canaan, Sidon and 999 01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:23.960 Heath that created the hybrid Chazoo, Amau or Shamaus. They're also known was 1000 01:31:24.039 --> 01:31:31.800 more Mesopotamian terms of hybrids that we're going to help the survival of the Rafaim 1001 01:31:32.279 --> 01:31:39.079 through that intermarriage. And I would also deduce from that, and particularly with 1002 01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:44.880 the five state Pentapolis that was part of the Giant Wars that included Sodom Gomor 1003 01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:54.119 in the cities of the Plain, that Canaan and Seth, not Seth, 1004 01:31:54.359 --> 01:32:05.680 Heath and Sidon likely intermarried with female l raphaem to create hybrids for those patriarchs. 1005 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:13.399 But because they were human patriarchs, their names were left as eponymous for 1006 01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:17.720 the tribes that they would have created, whereas the patriarch lest Ones would have 1007 01:32:17.880 --> 01:32:25.880 a name that was associated with their patriarch, but the patriarch's specific name is 1008 01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:31.439 not name. In my new book, I take these tribes back to a 1009 01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:36.560 specific patriarch. So just a little tidbit for people in terms of how deep 1010 01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:44.560 I do a dive into giants in terms of the new book. And of 1011 01:32:44.600 --> 01:32:46.520 course there's a lot of other tribes. The Abim don't have a patriarch, 1012 01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:54.079 the Maca them don't have a patriarch, Akadma name don't the Keynights and on 1013 01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:56.119 and on and on, and some of these ones they say, well, 1014 01:32:56.159 --> 01:33:00.000 like keen As might have been the patriarch for the Key Nights and the Kennazites, 1015 01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:05.840 except that they show up well before as tribes in Genesis fifteen or when 1016 01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:13.319 Kenaz appears in Genesis thirty six so or even further down the road as a 1017 01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:18.039 name that would come through the Israelites. So these tribes were around before, 1018 01:33:18.119 --> 01:33:27.600 just as the Malachim in Genesis fourteen appeared before. Amalak is created from Eliphaz, 1019 01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:32.520 son of Esau, brother of Jacob, who lost all of his birthright 1020 01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:39.319 blessings. He marries a Horem, a daughter of Seer, which goes back 1021 01:33:39.399 --> 01:33:53.039 to the Hebrew word setire and produces a new hybrid human Rapam dynasty that become 1022 01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:57.640 the Amalekites that are going to move and live with the Malakim in Petra after 1023 01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:05.399 that, and they're named after the amlak Is actually named after this already existing 1024 01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:11.399 Malachim tribe. So what Genesis thirty six does is show us that there's an 1025 01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:17.399 example of that intermarriage with a female Hoim or Refaim as a sort of the 1026 01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:23.760 generic term for all of the different tribes of the of the Refaim tribes that 1027 01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:32.800 Horem we're part of, and that you have a hybrid nation that is created 1028 01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:38.239 through that at a new dynasty that's created that is going to be part of 1029 01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:45.079 the Elvin dynasty of the Gnostic Elvin bloodline and the lb gens that is part 1030 01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:50.119 of the whole psioning, so that we talked about earlier. Well, thank 1031 01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:55.359 you so much for that explanation. I've heard similar recently. I had someone 1032 01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:59.279 on a couple excuse me, a couple of months ago who had similar thoughts 1033 01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:03.439 to the to the Curse of ham. All right, I want to start 1034 01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:09.479 tapping on some of the chapters of your books. We have. We're going 1035 01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:12.119 to run till nine o'clock, so we have about twenty five minutes left. 1036 01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:15.720 The Tower of Babel, okay, which is found in chapter twenty nine of 1037 01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:20.680 your book. First off, I want to ask you briefly. There's people 1038 01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:24.560 I don't know if you ever heard of a gentleman named Dustin Nemos. I 1039 01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:29.960 had him on back in February, and he believes that Nimrod could be the 1040 01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:36.439 Anti Christ. Is that something that you've ever come across. I've heard people 1041 01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:44.840 say that that Nimrod might be the sort of spirit of the Anti Christ, 1042 01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:49.720 and probably is in the Abyss if that were the case, and when he 1043 01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:57.560 comes out with the opening of the Abyss in Revelation nine is going to somehow 1044 01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:02.720 be part of either through a possession in this case a demonic possession or an 1045 01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:06.159 Avatara effect, which would be a higher being that would do it but would 1046 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:14.680 give additional power to anti Christ after he probably receives his head wound. So 1047 01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:28.279 Nimrod is an archetypical anti Christ figure for sure, because he maintains absolute control 1048 01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:31.600 over all the Noah Heights when they're all one people, and he imposes his 1049 01:36:31.800 --> 01:36:36.439 Babel religion, which is the Anochian religion from before the flood, which is 1050 01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:42.680 the allegory for the end time babylon religion. Babylon was rooted in the Hebrew 1051 01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:50.800 word babel, and so he is a Gibberim as he's described as a mighty 1052 01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:57.960 one in the Book of Genesis, and he becomes Gibberi his father is cushed, 1053 01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:01.239 so he doesn't come by this title as a rough i aim, and 1054 01:37:01.279 --> 01:37:04.359 he's not described as rough i Am. He's described as a mighty one, 1055 01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:08.880 and a mighty one can apply to giants, as it often does, but 1056 01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:15.159 it can also apply to humans, and it can apply to just sort of 1057 01:37:15.239 --> 01:37:20.239 the strength and the power of somebody, and Gabor is also used as the 1058 01:37:20.399 --> 01:37:27.000 mighty strength of God, and it's also used in the word excel for angels 1059 01:37:27.039 --> 01:37:30.600 and their strength in the Book of Psalms. So it shows up one hundred 1060 01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:34.199 and fifty eight times in the Old Testament, and not always for a giant, 1061 01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:43.119 so we have to be careful there. Now, it's possible that never 1062 01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:50.000 like loogal Banda three generations later, might have had sex with a goddess to 1063 01:37:50.159 --> 01:37:56.479 produce you know, giant offspring, or he just intermarried with the giants, 1064 01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:04.000 which is probably more likely with a female refaim after the Babel incident. So 1065 01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:15.119 could God take a human spirit if he's not a refaem and put it into 1066 01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:19.279 the abyss. Yes, God can do anything that he wants, but typically 1067 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:26.159 human spirits sleep, and it's only it's only the counterfeit spirits that do not 1068 01:38:27.279 --> 01:38:32.279 so, and he would be a terrific sort of ac sort of figure based 1069 01:38:32.359 --> 01:38:39.159 on being the first post Bluvian Antichrist want to be and even threatening to go 1070 01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:45.840 into heaven in some of the outside biblical accounts, which and trying to build 1071 01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:50.359 his tower into heaven, which you can't do that with a stone tower. 1072 01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:59.000 But in the Acadian tradition, babel doesn't mean confusion of languages. It means 1073 01:39:00.279 --> 01:39:03.239 I lu or babylou or e l as in a god or an angel and 1074 01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:08.760 bab as in a parle or a stargate or a wormhole or something like that. 1075 01:39:09.119 --> 01:39:14.199 And that he was trying to build this tower on a location that was 1076 01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:18.640 would have been obviously supplied with some sort of lay lines or some sort of 1077 01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:25.840 energy that created a technology that he had received from Hermes in these accounts, 1078 01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:30.359 from the Antidodeluvian angelic technology, and he was just going to use that to 1079 01:39:30.439 --> 01:39:34.880 go into Heaven and travel interdimensionally to kill God if he ever got out of 1080 01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:42.199 line again, which was the Huberst to which he's accredited to speaking as. 1081 01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:47.159 And he may have been wanting to go into Shaol or Hades, into the 1082 01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:54.119 Abyss prison and release all of the giants that he was worshiping. I mean 1083 01:39:54.199 --> 01:39:56.640 not all of the giants, but all of the gods that he was worshiping, 1084 01:39:56.720 --> 01:39:59.880 the ones that were sent there both before and after the flood for creed 1085 01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:06.840 giants. So he has a has a fit. But I would look at 1086 01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:12.840 anti Christ if if that's going to be how that works would be more of 1087 01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:23.279 an angelic being an avatar avatara effect. And so if we look at the 1088 01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:29.960 Hindu understanding of that, you have like Vishnu who has the avatar for his 1089 01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:38.840 avatara Buddha and provided all of this additional wisdom for Buddha, and Vishnu incarnated 1090 01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:47.000 many times, just as Shiva does. And Shiva actually incarnated into Niroshima, 1091 01:40:47.079 --> 01:40:54.439 a line demigod which as Land is likely based on. And that's a rabbit 1092 01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:57.000 hole I probably shouldn't have opened up. So I'll move back on. But 1093 01:40:57.039 --> 01:40:59.560 if you want to get a hold of me, I'll answer that question and 1094 01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:02.840 I'll send you some documents on what I'm talking about on that. So you 1095 01:41:03.039 --> 01:41:12.479 have this concept that angels can have more of a symbiotic relationship versus demonic possession 1096 01:41:13.800 --> 01:41:17.960 that demons would have, so that you're not having to suppress the host, 1097 01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:24.279 that you're working together and are receiving more power. Now, I do leave 1098 01:41:24.399 --> 01:41:28.680 open that in the occult, the adepts believe they can take these demonic spirits 1099 01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:31.880 in and will add to their power. But I still suspect a demon is 1100 01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:39.000 going to suppress the host, but they may be more subservient to what they 1101 01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:44.439 let in because that's what they desire to do. But it sounds to me 1102 01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:48.000 more like this is kind of akin to what Satan did with Judas, where 1103 01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:55.920 he entered into Judas to give him the courage to betray and go through with 1104 01:41:56.079 --> 01:42:02.640 betraying Jesus. And so biblically are told that in Revelation thirteen that Antichrist receives 1105 01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:08.000 his power from the dragon. So the dragon could mean Satan, or it 1106 01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:13.239 could mean perhaps Azazel, who is the destroyer of the antidiluvian world, and 1107 01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:19.600 likely the angel that is called the destroyer angel coming out of the abyss as 1108 01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:25.279 a badon or a polyon, and just as Son of tradition goes back to 1109 01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:30.039 that same series of words that produces a polyon, so there's a connection there 1110 01:42:30.119 --> 01:42:39.920 as well. And but second, Thessalonian says that Antichrist will receive his power 1111 01:42:40.199 --> 01:42:45.640 from Satan, So it seems to me it's more likely that Satan is the 1112 01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:49.199 sponsor of the power and not Azazel. But I'm open to sort of both, 1113 01:42:49.279 --> 01:42:54.159 So I would lean in that sort of direction that he will have that 1114 01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:59.960 additional power and to be able to do things that will absolutely it's down people 1115 01:43:00.039 --> 01:43:03.840 bol and what ought not to be surprised that if he could do something like 1116 01:43:04.119 --> 01:43:10.319 what Neo did in the matrix, that as soon as he figured out how 1117 01:43:10.399 --> 01:43:13.439 to how to manipulate things, he could fly, and nobody else could fly 1118 01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:18.640 like he did, right, except for other algorithms. And there's a lot 1119 01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:26.039 of there is some I guess theories out there that Anti Christ will have that 1120 01:43:26.119 --> 01:43:31.960 capability of flying like Superman Deaths, right, So I wouldn't be surprised if 1121 01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:36.479 that was the level of power that Anti Christ will have, because he is 1122 01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:45.800 going to have to have powers like like Jesus had and pretty much anything that 1123 01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:48.479 Jesus, well, anything Jesus would want to do as long as it was 1124 01:43:49.079 --> 01:43:54.560 you know, kosher, with the rest of the tripart he could do as 1125 01:43:54.640 --> 01:43:58.720 Alpha Omega. So Anti Christ will have to be able to duplicate that. 1126 01:43:58.840 --> 01:44:02.199 And that's going to take the most powerful of all the angels, the fallen 1127 01:44:02.279 --> 01:44:04.680 angels, which would be Satan. So I would lean more to that. 1128 01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:10.239 I won't discount out that it would be Nimrod, but it would be kind 1129 01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:14.119 of it an exception to the norms of how you would expect that to play 1130 01:44:14.159 --> 01:44:18.760 out. Gotcha, one thing I would I'm kind of putting myself out there 1131 01:44:18.800 --> 01:44:23.520 a little bit. I kind of tend to think the same way about the 1132 01:44:23.880 --> 01:44:27.960 Tower of Babbel story up until I would say, the last three or four 1133 01:44:28.039 --> 01:44:31.640 years ago. And then these are one of the things where I think it's 1134 01:44:31.680 --> 01:44:34.920 important to read the King James version if you go back and read the creation 1135 01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:43.359 story and Biblical cosmology in particular, and then you know, you go read 1136 01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:46.439 Genesis eleven and it specifically talks that they had brick for stone, they had 1137 01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:50.840 slime from mortar, and it also talks about, you know, the flood. 1138 01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:54.279 If you go back to the flood, it talks about the windows of 1139 01:44:54.359 --> 01:44:58.840 the firmament. It didn't rain for forty days and forty nights. And correct 1140 01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:01.479 me if I'm wrong, because I might be wrong, but it never rained 1141 01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:08.199 on the earth prior to the flood, right, correct? And so I 1142 01:45:08.359 --> 01:45:15.960 wonder is um you know? And heliocentrism is based on being centered around the 1143 01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:21.880 Sun, which was created by Jesuits. You know, we know this world 1144 01:45:23.079 --> 01:45:26.560 is full of deceit are we being lied to about our very being here on 1145 01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:33.239 earth? Were they actually trying to build a tower to reach the heavens where 1146 01:45:33.319 --> 01:45:40.720 God is seated right above us. Is that a possibility, Yeah, but 1147 01:45:40.880 --> 01:45:44.760 I think probably through interdimensional problem. I think that because I don't think you 1148 01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:49.239 could build stone up and mud bricks up that high, just wouldn't be physically 1149 01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:55.920 possible. So well, I can see a very um, a pompous person 1150 01:45:56.479 --> 01:46:00.680 saying we're going to build this, And then I guess only question is, 1151 01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:04.119 and you're you're more of a Bible scholar than me, is um I've looked 1152 01:46:04.159 --> 01:46:09.359 before? Does it mention other dimensions in the Bible, like interdimensional stuff? 1153 01:46:11.439 --> 01:46:16.720 Well, we know that there is in the Bible there are shoal and hades 1154 01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:20.640 as it's called, right, and that seems to be in the earth, 1155 01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:26.920 but not sort of physically in the earth, right, And we know that 1156 01:46:27.239 --> 01:46:31.039 there's the Abyss that's also located in that same sort of location. We also 1157 01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:38.640 know that there is m three heavens in the Bible. One is is the 1158 01:46:38.800 --> 01:46:43.119 Ferminade, and then what's outside the Fermaad is the second heaven. And then 1159 01:46:43.239 --> 01:46:47.800 there's a realm of the spirit beings that seems to be in another dimension or 1160 01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:54.560 at least where the spirit being sort of um exists now And polytheism, they 1161 01:46:54.680 --> 01:47:01.119 kind of look at seven dimensions or seven heavens, but a lot of those 1162 01:47:01.159 --> 01:47:05.920 seem to be storehouses within one of the heavens. So I'm not quite sure 1163 01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:09.680 that, you know, biblically, we don't get there with seven, but 1164 01:47:09.760 --> 01:47:13.199 I think they're talking about the same ones. It's just not in in seven 1165 01:47:13.319 --> 01:47:20.800 separate locations. So I think it speaks to that that there's a realm where 1166 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:27.279 the spirit beings living, and there's the physical world, and what happens in 1167 01:47:27.359 --> 01:47:32.920 the physical world as it's as rules and regulations that are are permitted and things 1168 01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:36.079 that are not, and when you cross that to a certain degree, there's 1169 01:47:36.119 --> 01:47:43.399 also you know, consequences for that, but it's done sort of in that 1170 01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:47.680 physical sort of nature, and so spirit beings have to take a physical presence 1171 01:47:47.800 --> 01:47:54.960 to interact physically in this dimension. So it just seems to me that there 1172 01:47:55.159 --> 01:47:59.960 is a separate realm where there's a dwelling place for the spirit in a spirit 1173 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:03.520 virtual realm like in heaven, which has talked about as the Oi caterian or 1174 01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:08.640 the habitation in Jude one six, or the house in heaven, which is 1175 01:48:09.520 --> 01:48:14.159 the same Greek word oichterian. It means a dwelling place for the spirit. 1176 01:48:14.239 --> 01:48:17.520 So they left their dwelling place for the spirit in heaven. But to interact 1177 01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:23.880 physically in this world, they have to create another oikyterian, which is the 1178 01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:30.640 soul and body which is from this world to hold that spirit. And the 1179 01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:40.159 immortal spirit wasn't designed to interact physically in the physical world perpetually because that's part 1180 01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:44.199 of the spirit world, and the angels who are spirit beings were created immortal. 1181 01:48:44.279 --> 01:48:46.159 So all of that sort of suggests there's something that's different. And then 1182 01:48:46.279 --> 01:48:53.119 when when Jesus was resurrected, he went to Heaven in his body, and 1183 01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:59.039 the resurrection for Christians in Heaven is with this new body that was created with 1184 01:48:59.159 --> 01:49:02.399 something new with the direction of Jesus, where a physical body can now go 1185 01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:09.319 into I think a different dimension as in heaven that will be sort of an 1186 01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:14.720 ongoing thing in eternity. So there's a lot of things that are kind of 1187 01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:18.840 pointing towards that as as a different dimension. But does it specifically say a 1188 01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:24.399 different dimension. No, it does not, but it just sort of seems 1189 01:49:24.399 --> 01:49:29.479 to me indicate that excellent, we got about ten minutes left. I do 1190 01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:32.800 want to kind of fire some question at you more towards secret societies, etc. 1191 01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:39.880 I was really fascinated with chapter sixty nine. Our dollar bill, our 1192 01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:47.199 money is loaded with all this symbology. Specifically the dollar bill the United States 1193 01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:51.000 seal is engraved with the words anew at coopitus, which is Latin for announcing 1194 01:49:51.039 --> 01:49:57.720 the birth of and then of course it's followed by novis ordoschlorum, which basically, 1195 01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:03.039 I mean translates into the birth of the new world order. Where do 1196 01:50:03.119 --> 01:50:06.439 you think, and again this is conjecture here, where do you think the 1197 01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:11.760 United States? Or I should say, what part will it play in the 1198 01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:16.279 end times? If any? Oh, I think it'll play a large role. 1199 01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:21.760 But we also need to understand the end times in a globalist sort of 1200 01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:26.560 term. Right, we're talking about a seventh empire that's going to rise, 1201 01:50:28.079 --> 01:50:32.199 that's going to have ten kings, and there's going to be ten emperors that 1202 01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:39.720 are ruling this this world government that are controlled by this universal religion with babylons. 1203 01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:46.199 So I think the US is going to be part of that and probably 1204 01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:53.800 be one of those kings. Now, is that going to be represented by 1205 01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:58.800 sort of let's say, a royal family so to speak of the US or 1206 01:50:58.840 --> 01:51:03.439 are they going to fall in under let's say the Windsors as part of that 1207 01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:10.840 empire. And we don't know, but expect that the whole world is going 1208 01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:15.760 to be split into ten different groups, just as the Club of Rome imagines 1209 01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:18.720 it, just as un imagines it, and maybe a little bit different than 1210 01:51:19.399 --> 01:51:27.439 how they've drawn the lines. But that's how those in control see this world 1211 01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:32.680 empire being made up of. And so I certainly would expect the US would 1212 01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:39.439 play a very very large role on that, and they were created to help 1213 01:51:39.560 --> 01:51:45.279 bring about this world empire. And the model of the US is kind of 1214 01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:50.560 similar to what they first see in the End Time, where you have in 1215 01:51:50.640 --> 01:51:55.279 the US, you have one central power and then you have all of these 1216 01:51:55.359 --> 01:52:00.680 different states that are working together. And this would be sort of the model 1217 01:52:00.720 --> 01:52:08.119 that they see for the ten King Empire of the end Time, and then 1218 01:52:08.199 --> 01:52:14.319 eventually at the midpoint, Antichrist takes over after those ten kings hand them power. 1219 01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:20.920 So the US will play a large role in the fig Tree generation in 1220 01:52:21.159 --> 01:52:29.840 terms of the Sorrows as part of the major player that sees this geopolitical network 1221 01:52:30.279 --> 01:52:34.239 warm through wars and rumors of war and other catastrophes as they get stronger. 1222 01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:43.319 I think we're seeing I think we are in the Fig three generation. We 1223 01:52:43.479 --> 01:52:46.039 may not be, but I think I think that we are. I don't 1224 01:52:46.039 --> 01:52:49.079 think we're in the last seven years by any stretch of the imagination. And 1225 01:52:49.119 --> 01:52:55.920 we're seeing the strength of those birth pangs, those sorrows get stronger. And 1226 01:52:56.720 --> 01:53:00.399 part of that is as a pestilence that we saw not that long long ago, 1227 01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.680 that would expect to see stronger ones like that. And these are probably 1228 01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:11.680 all going to be contrived fasters. And you see this jostling going on today 1229 01:53:11.840 --> 01:53:17.439 with Russia and the Ukraine, where Putin has these sort of grandiose dreams that 1230 01:53:17.600 --> 01:53:24.720 he thinks he's a Puganan and that he wants to put together the Kievan Empire 1231 01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:30.119 of the originals Ars and so Kiev's kind of the Holy City. But he 1232 01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:33.000 doesn't want It's not that Putin doesn't want to be part of the new World 1233 01:53:33.119 --> 01:53:36.760 order. He just wants a larger role for himself. Just says Trump was 1234 01:53:36.840 --> 01:53:41.760 trying to do the same thing. He wanted a larger role in this new 1235 01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:46.039 world order of importance in not a smaller order as the Western Europeans would design, 1236 01:53:46.479 --> 01:53:51.199 So Putin doesn't want the same design that the Western Europeans want as well, 1237 01:53:51.239 --> 01:53:58.439 and neither does g and Gi would like to build an empire and will 1238 01:53:58.520 --> 01:54:05.119 be and he's already working in partnership with Russia. And I think we're going 1239 01:54:05.239 --> 01:54:11.199 to see this polarization into maybe two groups of five if we are indeed in 1240 01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:15.279 the fig Tree generation, and that we're starting to see that take place. 1241 01:54:15.319 --> 01:54:19.159 So the US is going to play a large role as the attack dog for 1242 01:54:19.319 --> 01:54:25.279 the Western Europeans, but at some point in time they're going to have to 1243 01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:28.640 come back to the pack, which is also what they're trying to do. 1244 01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:31.319 At the same time as being the attack dog, they're trying to weaken the 1245 01:54:31.479 --> 01:54:35.079 US so they can't dominate the whole world, so that they can have a 1246 01:54:35.199 --> 01:54:41.640 more equal union. So I think they're going to play a large role, 1247 01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:44.359 and even as you get into the end time, as part of that, 1248 01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:50.359 a lot of the technology and the weaponry and the events of the wars are 1249 01:54:50.479 --> 01:54:56.119 going to be in part where the US are involved, So they're going to 1250 01:54:56.159 --> 01:55:00.239 play a large role. They're just not going to be the central place. 1251 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:04.520 They're slowly going to be moved back so that you could have Babylon take center 1252 01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:09.800 stage with these ten kings, and then Antichrist will come in at the midpoint 1253 01:55:10.439 --> 01:55:13.680 of the last seven years. Yeah, I agree with that, and it's 1254 01:55:13.720 --> 01:55:18.680 really interesting speaking of Freemasonry and secret societies. Albert Pike's Morals and Dogma talks 1255 01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:24.199 about three World Wars. We've already had the two, but I think he 1256 01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:28.039 says for the third World War it's going to be was Zion in Middle Eastern 1257 01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:32.119 countries. And you know, all the focus has been on Ukraine and Russia. 1258 01:55:32.239 --> 01:55:38.159 But what the mainstream media isn't telling people right now is that Israel is 1259 01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:42.439 in a huge crisis right now and they are collapsing from the inside out. 1260 01:55:42.479 --> 01:55:45.039 You're not catching much of that coverage within the news, but they're having some 1261 01:55:45.239 --> 01:55:50.079 serious issues and I'm worried with of course, August twenty second is the big 1262 01:55:50.199 --> 01:55:55.800 Bricks vote. They're going to create this currency that is backed with gold, 1263 01:55:56.720 --> 01:56:00.640 and it just so happens that August twenty second was the date. It was 1264 01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:05.279 the anniversary of the United States coming off of the gold standard, and just 1265 01:56:05.439 --> 01:56:10.840 ask Momar Gadaffi how that worked for him. So I do believe, like 1266 01:56:10.960 --> 01:56:14.159 you said, we are in the early stages, we're feeling the birthing pains, 1267 01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:19.359 and I think we certainly will play a large part of this. Yeah, 1268 01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:24.920 and there needs to be this massive and then we're going to see wars 1269 01:56:24.960 --> 01:56:28.760 that people are going to say this is the apocalypse and disasters, and it's 1270 01:56:28.760 --> 01:56:32.399 still in the birth pangs, and those birth pangs will get stronger, so 1271 01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:39.760 much so that in Revelation six they'll hit a peak of twenty five percent destruction 1272 01:56:39.800 --> 01:56:43.119 of the whole world, and even the rulers of the Earth at that time 1273 01:56:43.159 --> 01:56:46.319 are going to be hiding in caves because of the destruction. And I think 1274 01:56:46.359 --> 01:56:49.560 it's the day of the Lord. But the trumpets are yet to come, 1275 01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:54.039 and the raf boles are yet to come, and that comes in thirty three 1276 01:56:54.159 --> 01:56:59.560 percent and what would be one hundred percent strength except that Jesus steps into shorten 1277 01:56:59.640 --> 01:57:08.000 the day, and so you're going to have to have a war that duplicates 1278 01:57:08.279 --> 01:57:13.399 the armageddon war that Jesus is going to come back and fight or anti Christ 1279 01:57:13.880 --> 01:57:19.640 to fulfill his pedigree and his armac eddon. So you have this war that 1280 01:57:19.760 --> 01:57:25.159 happens in Revelation nine, after the opening of the Abyss and before the midpoint 1281 01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:30.520 when he actually takes power. That is the same war as described by creatures 1282 01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:35.000 in Joel one and two versus Joel three, which is the Armageddon battle, 1283 01:57:35.800 --> 01:57:41.800 and seems to be the Dog War that is going to be fought in the 1284 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:49.079 Middle East led by Dog, chief prince of Magog of Maschek. And Dog 1285 01:57:49.359 --> 01:57:55.159 isn't a patriarch that's in the Bible anywhere, so he never created a nation 1286 01:57:55.399 --> 01:58:00.800 from the Table of Nations. Magog is. Gog is the offspring of Aya 1287 01:58:00.920 --> 01:58:06.279 Pettis and a human female before the flood, as is Magog. So Magog, 1288 01:58:06.760 --> 01:58:11.159 as they show up as a descendant of Jafana, seems to have been 1289 01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:15.640 one of the peoples that intermarried with these refaim and accepted a giant name, 1290 01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:21.600 and that was put in to sort of denote that in the genealogies. And 1291 01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:27.159 but Gog has nothing to do with the Table of Nations. And so this 1292 01:58:27.439 --> 01:58:31.119 is after the Abyss is opened. And what's also interesting is an Ezekiel theory. 1293 01:58:31.359 --> 01:58:35.720 Two. You have these terrible Ones that we talked about earlier. They're 1294 01:58:35.800 --> 01:58:41.800 talking to Pharaoh from cells in the sides of the Abyss prison as the terrible 1295 01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:45.479 ones who are slain on the earth and to terrible things while they were still 1296 01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:48.880 alive. So these are the worst of the Nephalim and the refi Em. 1297 01:58:49.159 --> 01:58:55.199 And one wonders whether or not there's a connection between those being released in Revelation 1298 01:58:55.359 --> 01:59:00.239 nine to Gog and Magog as being giants from before the floods. Interesting stuff, 1299 01:59:00.279 --> 01:59:04.279 for sure, one hundred percent. And I got one more thing to 1300 01:59:04.359 --> 01:59:09.239 mention, and we're gonna let you go eat some dinner. You've been very 1301 01:59:09.920 --> 01:59:12.760 generous with your time, and I do want to thank you. But chapter 1302 01:59:12.920 --> 01:59:16.239 seventy six, when I looked at chapter seventy six, I laughed because the 1303 01:59:16.600 --> 01:59:21.560 very very first podcast I ever did years ago was on Prescott Bush in the 1304 01:59:21.640 --> 01:59:28.520 Bush Family. I have had a interesting you know, the bushes, especially 1305 01:59:28.560 --> 01:59:30.960 if you talk about the bushes in Texas, you're going to get the dirty 1306 01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:33.119 eye. You know, the bushes are just gold down there. But the 1307 01:59:33.199 --> 01:59:38.079 fact of the matter is, and I stand by the statement that George HW. 1308 01:59:38.319 --> 01:59:41.560 Bush was one of the most evil people of the twentieth century. And 1309 01:59:41.960 --> 01:59:45.600 your chapter seventy six is a thousand points of light. And you talk about 1310 01:59:45.680 --> 01:59:49.960 when Adam Eve excuse me, and then Adam ate the tree of knowledge, 1311 01:59:50.079 --> 01:59:56.760 good and evil, They ate the beautiful fruit of gnosis or knowledge, and 1312 01:59:56.840 --> 01:59:59.680 then you talk about Pike, the evil demons, and it goes on. 1313 02:00:00.840 --> 02:00:05.000 But that thousand points of light, and I always talk about mockery and how 1314 02:00:05.119 --> 02:00:12.640 George HW. Bush eleven years to the day before September eleventh, mentioned there 1315 02:00:12.680 --> 02:00:15.840 would be a new world order. Now, what people overlook. The other 1316 02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:23.800 thing that he said at the nineteen eighty eight Republican National Convention was that a 1317 02:00:23.920 --> 02:00:29.960 brilliant diversity spreads like stars, like a thousand points of light in a broad 1318 02:00:30.039 --> 02:00:34.520 and peaceful sky. And he would say something similarly in his inaugural address of 1319 02:00:34.720 --> 02:00:41.640 nineteen eighty nine. So this is a form of mockery. And just if 1320 02:00:41.720 --> 02:00:45.439 you could really again just kind of let the people know what this thousand points 1321 02:00:45.479 --> 02:00:54.039 of light is really about. Yeah, and his son, George, the 1322 02:00:54.199 --> 02:00:59.760 last President Bush, used that same term in a couple of speeches and at 1323 02:00:59.800 --> 02:01:04.840 the at the funeral of his father. So, um, a thousand points 1324 02:01:04.880 --> 02:01:13.840 of light is what they call in gnosticism, in secret societies and in this 1325 02:01:14.079 --> 02:01:20.800 whole bloodline power system that rules the earth is the original spark of the divine, 1326 02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:26.359 not spark of the divine, as they understood. Is the spark and 1327 02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:32.840 the seed of the spirit being godfathers, the celestial mafia who created the original 1328 02:01:33.680 --> 02:01:40.920 Nephelim and then the Rephaim after the flood, and that this spark of the 1329 02:01:41.039 --> 02:01:47.399 divine is the thousand points of lights. Is this dispersed spark that's around the 1330 02:01:47.479 --> 02:01:54.680 earth that they want to collect together so that they can evolve into Godhood. 1331 02:01:55.039 --> 02:01:58.640 And in order to do that, they have to bring about this one world 1332 02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:01.920 government, this one world old religion, so that they can take control of 1333 02:02:02.039 --> 02:02:09.920 the earth and develop into Godhood. Thank you for that, and thank you 1334 02:02:10.079 --> 02:02:15.600 so much for your time tonight for the two hours all the knowledge that you've 1335 02:02:15.680 --> 02:02:17.960 dropped on us. And again, ladies and gentlemen, it's the Genesis six 1336 02:02:18.119 --> 02:02:24.920 conspiracy, how secret societies and the descendants of giants plan to enslave humankind. 1337 02:02:25.720 --> 02:02:29.399 Make sure when you buy this book you also have like a three ring binder 1338 02:02:29.600 --> 02:02:31.880 or some kind of notepad, because this is not a book where you sit 1339 02:02:31.960 --> 02:02:36.920 down and read cover to cover. I have read not even chapters, entire 1340 02:02:38.039 --> 02:02:42.640 chapters without writing down a bunch of notes and then doing some research going back. 1341 02:02:42.720 --> 02:02:45.760 It's a plethora of knowledge you want to talk about bang for your buck. 1342 02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:48.359 I think it's close to eight hundred pages. This is one of the 1343 02:02:48.439 --> 02:02:53.319 books that you want to show off on your coffee table. And Gary put 1344 02:02:53.439 --> 02:02:57.239 thirty five years of his life into his book. So please, if you 1345 02:02:57.319 --> 02:03:02.199 know the message resonated with you, support Gary by going to his website Genesis 1346 02:03:02.439 --> 02:03:08.560 six conspiracy dot com. All the links whether you're in Canada the United States, 1347 02:03:08.840 --> 02:03:12.159 you can buy it at Barnes and Noble. There's all the links on 1348 02:03:12.239 --> 02:03:15.560 his website. You can't go wrong. And I will also put the Facebook 1349 02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:18.920 link. Apologies to all the folks. There's just too many questions. We 1350 02:03:18.960 --> 02:03:23.000 couldn't get to it. But you can join that Facebook group and ask the 1351 02:03:23.119 --> 02:03:26.840 questions. There you'll have a whole group of people that will help you answer 1352 02:03:27.039 --> 02:03:30.680 those questions. Gary, I'll give you the last few words and we'll call 1353 02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:34.079 it a night. Sir, Well, thank you for inviting me, and 1354 02:03:34.119 --> 02:03:40.680 hopefully we've connected some dots and hopefully we have raised some eyebrows at the same 1355 02:03:40.760 --> 02:03:45.479 time, and hopefully people enjoy the conversation. And do feel free to get 1356 02:03:45.520 --> 02:03:48.399 a hold of me through my website. And how you do that On the 1357 02:03:48.439 --> 02:03:51.960 website US you go to the immedia page where it says contact Garry Wayne for 1358 02:03:53.039 --> 02:03:59.520 an author or for an interview. That's my website email address, and or 1359 02:03:59.560 --> 02:04:02.520 you can do it directly at Genesis sixth Conspiracy at gmail dot com. And 1360 02:04:02.680 --> 02:04:08.399 that's the number six, so fairly easy to remember. Excellent, Thank you 1361 02:04:08.479 --> 02:04:13.680 so much, certain best of luck with part two. Thank you very much. 1362 02:04:13.800 --> 02:04:14.600 All right, take care,