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Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. They
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Sons Sports Stage, Fox Sports fourteen
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radio arm Hey, welcome back to
you on on the ball here on Fox

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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve,
He's Jay and Jay has some breaking news

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last night. Check Welcome the sea. Is I on the ball breaking news

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on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Okay, as mentioned things was near duds to

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Steve's heart and mine as well as
as a journalist or Shoe Collars was former

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journalist week just kind of screw up
now. But anyways, the situation at

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USC where a reporter named Luca Evans
from the Southern California News Group basically the

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Orange County Register was kicked out of
out of USC UH his access was say

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he was suspended from access to the
USC football program for two weeks. A

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couple of days ago, apparently he
wrote about something that occurred that wasn't part

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of the actual press conference. He
there were two guys talking, two USC

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players talking. He mentioned that in
a story. They said that was out

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of line because it wasn't part of
the quote unquote media opportunity and they said

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they were suspending them for two weeks. Of course, the media started bleeding

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out of its eyes over this,
saying it was ridiculous and and stupid and

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what the hell is going on?
And what some because somebody writes something you

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don't like, you're gonna cut them
off, YadA, YadA, yadah.

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There was a funny thing by an
interview with with Chip Kelly the UCLA.

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He was asking a press conference,
have you ever had a situation where you

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kicked a reporter out for or suspending
them from being around the program for a

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couple of weeks breaking something? Apparently? Yeah, And he said you can

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do that. I didn't know you
could do that. He was very He

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densked around the question because he didn't
want to. I wouldn't to be either.

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I would have say I really have
no comment because I really don't know.

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He didn't want to piss off the
other side, right, but he

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was. But that was his first
initial funny actions. Really, I don't

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know you could you could do that. So anyways, apparently it's been resolved,

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the suspension has been lifted. There
are statements both by by Lincoln Riley

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at at at USC and then by
Luca Evans, I'll read them to you

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quickly. Here's Lincoln Lincoln Riley's uh
statement. Last night, I received a

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call from Luca Evans and we had
a very candid and productive conversation. We

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agreed that we both could have handled
the situation differently. I appreciate Luca recognizing

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the policies we have in place to
protect our student athletes and acknowledging to adhere

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to those in the future. We
welcome Luca back to practice and look forward

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to his continuing coverage of the Trojans
and then Luca Evans says, last night,

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I had a long conversation with Lincoln
Riley Shane our perspectives on the events

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that led to us suspending my access. Riley made it clear his intent to

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protect his players. I made it
clear my intent it's always been to tele

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compelling honest stories on USC. I
respect you to understand the program's outline policies

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regarding meet access and any misteps came
through intent of doing my job and pursuing

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a relationship building and storytelling. I
will continue the same reporting and writing with

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fairness, accuracy, and depth,
and we reached an agreement to lift the

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restrictions. Okay, So so I'm
gonna pick your brain. I have my

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thoughts on this. And you know
I said yesterday, if they if they

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re revoke or they come back on
this and say, okay, we're gonna

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let you in their their power of
rules doesn't make any sense, right,

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you know, your dad, I'm
a dad. We say you can't go

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out past eleven o'clock. And if
they do it, what do you do?

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Oh it's okay, you can't do
that. No, it's it's there's

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there's some repercussions. Okay, So
what do you think is the real reason

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behind this? That they didn't like
what he wrote, didn't like what he

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wrote, whatever it was that he
wrote, I stapp seen the story.

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No, no, no, behind
this that they said, okay, you're

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welcome back. Oh oh they're changing
hard was that they were getting crapped on

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by everybody exactly exactly. Somebody,
finally, somebody funny told them, you

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guys look like crap. Look.
I wonder if they even went to their

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own journalism program, which is a
very good that that said, what are

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you doing? You're doing this is
petty, You look stupid. I get

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what you're trying to do. But
this is, this is this conversation should

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have happened before the extra did.
Right. But that's that's often comes from

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you know, people in those positions
who've never been on our side of it,

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right, they've never been on our
side of it to understand, you

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know, what goes on. Nobody
nobody, there aren't. There aren't guys

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anymore, some as many as there
used to be limpitted this way because there

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are still something, but there aren't
guys who are looking for a story to

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make you look bad. If it
comes there a way, they're gonna do

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it. Yeah, But but very
few people get up every day and said,

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I gotta go find something though to
make somebody look bad. You you

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talked about this yesterday, and I
don't disagree with you. They have in

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house writers or whomever they going to
pell them that do their publicity whether right

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their stories. But but that's that's
a one sided feature that tells your story.

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It's not the and most of the
time they're not the stories that they're

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not the good, well written stories
that journalists tell. I'm being biased,

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but I'm telling you my side of
it, so you don't get you don't

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get the full picture of what you
see. Yeah, and hey, if

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I had a website and I wanted
to be pro me, I write it.

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Maybe write it. I have a
perfect example of this just just last

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week. Okay, so the day
after the Mississippi State game. Okay,

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the U of A game notes come
out. Yeah, okay, and just

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all these bullet points of stuff that
happened in the game. No mention of

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the five turnovers, right, which
was the kid of the game. No

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mention of the five turnovers. And
we're we're in We're in California. So

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I'm with you, my son,
Yes, idea who he wrote those?

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You know? Were the teams that
he that he did? And I said,

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Adam said, how did they not
mention that there were Jade Delora had

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four picks and there were five turnovers
in the game. He goes, well,

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we're not gonna put that in there. I said, why not?

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It was a big part of the
games because it makes's look bad. We're

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not putting that in there. It
happened, it happened. Well guess what,

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I'm sure the reporters wrote it.
Yeah. Yeah, but he said,

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we would never put that in the
in the release, I said,

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oh, why would you not it's
a it's a It was a key part

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of the game. Even when when
do you think just switched you talked about

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ten years ago or whatever. Now, but dud and Butch and all these

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guys, guess what could put it
in there? It was it was when

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they locked when when they were able
to lock down access. Okay, we're

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able to then they had the internet
to put out what they want to see

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out in the media. And that's
when it happened. Now, it was,

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it's kind of gradual. But look, there were even times that I

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know Tom Dundalston wasn't happy with some
of the stuff that they put out because

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he wanted to say more because he
knew, look, we can we can

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pretend this didn't happen, but they're
not gonna pretend it shot right. No,

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Well, the reason I asked the
question, there's no question that they

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got heat from They thought it would
be a little non story. Yeah,

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it became a national story and and
and and and in Football's case, in

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particular, their staff they're they're they're
no, not no, they're the football

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staff. You know the staff,
and you know the director of operation.

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Those guys are in charge of the
media. They tell the other guys what

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you can say. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, no that

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it happened. It happened in the
Summlin years. I don't know how election

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happened in the Ridge Road years,
but it was in that stretch of time.

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Kevin someone had a guy that that
told sports and from what to do.

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No question. I even asked that
question because he was a linger.

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He lingered, he listened to stuff, and what the hell who's this dude?

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Oh, he was a handler,
kind of got a handler, and

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and and and we all know who
he is. And I know that the

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last name. But I'm thinking we've
come to the point of this. We're

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grown men who grown men need need
a sidekick to either give him a nod

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or a yeah, that's okay to
talk about it. Looks I think the

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statue of limitation has passed. But
I was aware that sports information folks,

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you know the guy, the media
guys were not allowed in the football office.

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
no, I forget you know that,

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right, I've heard that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny

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because we don't talk about it,
not Dan. We didn't worry about it

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because it was not a story.
Fans don't give a crap. But in

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the context of what we're talking about, talking about the control that say a

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usc football program or Arizona football program
has over the narrative. Sure, it's

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because they do things like that.
Well, the funny thing is changed you're

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talking about here, how did that
turn out? Yeah, that's so,

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that's so good. But you know, see, I you know, it

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goes way back to Look when when
when Arizona played Georgetown in basketball in the

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eighty six eighty seven season. Okay, we go to Georgetown, right,

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the restrictions they had George talking to
the Georgetown coach and players and stuff like

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that was ridiculous. And this was
nineteen eighties. Well it was December of

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eight. What was it? What
was it? Well, for instance,

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the postgame press conference, Okay,
John Thompson press conference. Ten minutes,

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he said, it's ten minutes,
that's it. At During that same ten

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minutes was when the locker room was
open. You had to decide choice to

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go to one or the other.
And those days they didn't transcribe either side.

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Probably so you so I go to
the Greg, Greg, you stayed

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in the in the conference. I
went to the locker room, and we

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were gonna swa quote and and no
Greg didn't go on there. It was

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it doule Duston. Help me out
with that. So I go to and

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literally the guy that their their media
relations guys starts counting down at thirty when

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the ten minutes was going to be
up. He doesn't count down, So

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there was no flexibility Twitter or anything. Well they kind of do that now,

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No, I'm telling you they were
doing this thirty five years yeah,

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yeah, yeah, Well because they
didn't need they didn't need the publicity.

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Right. In fact, I used
to give people crew grief in that officing

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at one point, you're gonna need
You're gonna need us, You're gonna need

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us. Well, now you can't
even go into the locker room. No,

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no, no, no, no, no until the tournaments. To

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the tournaments. It's a disservice.
Let me see this. And I don't

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know if I'm accurated with this or
not, but Loots Times and I go

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back to the loose Times because you
have Sean doing what he does, Steve

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did his stuff with tmt uh,
they had Richard does his stuff channing Fry.

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You have a number of people in
the media. Guess what they were

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allowed to do talk to the media, grow up a little bit, know

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how to handle the media, because
now what do they be comfortable with the

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media? They are media? Yeah, I mean, come on, how

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novel? Is that? How novel? Let the kids grow up, go

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to car What do you go to
college for? Jay? To get to

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grow up and learn what to do
to get a job, to have skills.

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You know, I'm hearing my little
soapbox. But but come on,

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these are grown These are grown people. I know, I know, I

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know the something stuff. Well,
they wanted they want, they want to

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try and say what we're protecting them? Want them from? What? From

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what? You already coach them?
You do it, You did it right,

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You did it at the sugar skulls. Don't screw up and say something

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stupid. There you go there?
How to handle the knees media? It's

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crazy, it's stupid. Okay,
okay, yeah, you feel better.

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I do. I'm not. It's
got resolved. I feel like I should

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give you like a pack of life
favorite. It's funny though he came to

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the But yeah, okay, somebody
finally did you guys? Come on,

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ye, this is really stupid and
you're making not only you're making yourselves look

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stupid. You're making the whole university. You really are, because the athletic

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director and the president backed up.
Sure, of course, and then of

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course they are. But somebody who
must have gotten there here and say,

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you know what, he's back a
little. This is not this is not

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nuclear nience. And then this is
not a fight to fight you exactly,

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exactly right. We're not gonna go
to Cuba and fight with the If you

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want to pull the guy aside and
say, hey, that was that was

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out of line, Sure, don't
do that again. Sure, by all

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means. And that's what they did. And but they publicly embarrassed guy.

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And that's publicly embarrassing. Actually the
guy, he's probably well known now and

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it could be well read now.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure,

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all right. A couple of quick
things before we run out of time.

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On breaking news here Trevon Diggs,
the cornerback for for the Cowboys, out

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with a torn acl out for the
year to Yeah. I saw that.

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I saw the big deal. I
was going to the Cowboys. Oh you're

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one of those guys. One guy
makes a difference, a guy like that.

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They have twenty two other people,
but not guys like Trevon Diggs.

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Yeah, but that's your I'm not
gonna tell you how the pay. I

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want you to go down that rabbit
hole. And then Bryce Young is apparently

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out for the game against Has he
been impressive? I haven't really paid attention.

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No, Okay, he's out.
He's been out the last two games.

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And I don't know who they're I
don't know who their backup is.

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But they're owing too. They knew
they were gonna be owing too. They're

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not very good. But he'll be
out. Oh you're asking about this guy?

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His backup is? Who the red
rifle? Oh, he's there and

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he's got a he's one hundred years
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actually have to put away the clipboard. Wouldn't you just love that job.

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You're getting paid whatever, you're getting
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They want to play. But you're
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pretty sure they want to play anyways, he's not anyway, So it looks

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now on the phone. We have
Ben Parker from Rivals covering Stanford. How

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are you this? We're doing well. We wanted to pick somebody's brain of

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what the heck is going on at
Stanford. So what's going on to Stanford?

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Well, it's a rebuilt situation,
that's probably the best thing to say.

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Uh, you know, you're one
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the rock season, so they're kind
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that's kind of where we're at.
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I asked the Jetfish today. I
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Troy Taylor's team look like? You
know, what, what are they?

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What? You know, what kind
of defense, and often what kind of

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mentality do they have? And he
really did. He said, I don't

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know Troy Taylor, so I don't
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what have you seen so far in
terms of kind of who they're trying to

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be? Yeah, you know,
I think one of the things they're trying

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to be is I think ideally they
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offensive team that gives teams a lot
of different looks, right, and then

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defensively, they want to be a
team that really flies to the ball and

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uh disguises things well and let's is
and as aggressive. But I think especially

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on the well both sides of the
ball. Really, you know, until

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they're able to actually kind of get
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the kids that they're actually recruiting in, it's going to take some time to

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kind of fully see the vision that
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makes any sense. Did he have
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reputation coming in in terms of you
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obvious implication of that is that he's
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on the offense and the defense.
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Stateum, what are they? What
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I think at sack State he was
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guy that really did a good job
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guys to make plays in open space, and and really kind of maximizing the

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talents of his guys, moving running
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different kind of creative things, and
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more offensive creativity than David shows.
I think, like in terms of what

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he was supposed to be and what
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very creative offensive guy, and obviously
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that. So then I asked people
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a reason because of my question,
even with them for a while. Yeah,

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this is my third season conference Stanford. I covered Cow before that,

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all of them with rivals were like
seven seven plus years started with Cal and

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now I'm at Stanford. So what's
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has been in Arizona pretty heavily the
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it undershot, it was, it
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you know, Stanford, Uh,
now it's just gone bad. What

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the heck happened? Yeah, So
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kind of flies with both programs.
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kind of had a heyday. Stanford, I mean CAW with Jeff Tetford and

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you know, they I think at
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certain changes and adaptations that David Shaw
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whether it would whether it was Bruning
an offensive coordinator that would just call

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the place for him, or maybe
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great as Lance Anderson was there.
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of adapt with the times and make
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he'll bring up is you know,
getting pillars in the transfer portal and and

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a lack of institutional support. But
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only came into force in the last
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it was just as simple as David
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adapt and change things and listen to
people who were you know, donors and

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the certain things that requests a certain
changes anyone to do it. So it

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was just general kind of the apathy
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the client of Stanford and now you
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and trying to get the same backup
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you know, sort of a sign
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transfer portal and Stanford and you know
how much you know we I mean,

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from where we sit, it looks
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is a difficult thing for Stanford because
of the academics and you know they talk

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about other coaches who don't like to
use the transfer portal. But how much

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of an impact is that having on
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and backfill and you know, you
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go and you got to get a
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to go into the JATS report.
I mean, do you think that's actually

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a thing that's having an impact on
Stanford. Yeah, sure, I mean

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the champ repoort's having an impact and
everybody, right, not just Stanford.

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I think with Stanford, I think
they're opening things up more with that,

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which is good to see. You
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flexible at bringing in guys. You
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Florida, you know, from FIU, Guys from Bernadelle. They brought in

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a transfer from Wisconsin, Spencer Litle. And it's not just you know,

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and it's not just you know,
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Now, you know, Basketball Atlantic
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Jared Biden from Providence. We're planning
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Baseball landed a guy softball. So
I mean there's as a whole of the

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transfer portal, it's I think it's
taking Stanford longer to adapt and figure out

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how to use that while still maintaining
their academic standards. But in this new

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era, Stanford wants to compete and
so as a result, we're gonna be

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seeing more kids transfer end than than
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on that, which is good for
the program and really honestly essential because the

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trans report is he coming to a
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today is Emma Smith's kid playing?
Is he How good is he? He's

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good? I mean, I feel
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playing, he said out he was
injured almost all that season. He's playing.

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He looks fine. I feel like
they could be using him more honestly.

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When he gets the ball, I
mean, he looks very shifty,

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very fast, and I'm a little
surprised he hasn't had a hundre year rushing

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game yet. So I think he's
a guy who I think Stanford could be

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getting even more out of. So
I mean, at some point, I

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think he's gonna go off for a
big game. I don't know if it'll

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be against Arizona necessarily, but he
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and I think with each week he's
getting stronger. More cop them,

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but he's he looks the part for
sure. But what are they What kinds

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of things are they doing offensively?
I mean is that you know what are

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they doing? A read option kind
of thing? A pro said, what

407
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what are we going to see on
Saturday. Yeah, you know, there's

408
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a lot of spread stuff, right
you know, running backs running, you

409
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know, moving out of receivers,
a lot of spread stuff. A lot

410
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of vertical shots too. That's another
thing we're saying. I'm trying to I

411
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mean, I think one thing to
des to look for is is them to

412
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utilize Benjamin Rosic more. He didn't
get utilized as much last week against Fact

413
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State, and that hurt them.
So I think we see I think we

414
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can see a lot of kind of
vertical passing and a lot of kind of

415
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shots down fields and then some sweeps
and trying to waves to kind of get

416
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you know, running backs an open
space without having necessarily run through the offensive

417
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line. Because the offensive line is
a major week spot right now, and

418
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so they can't really do contraditional vertical
handoff in the middle. They have to

419
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.599
kind of be a little more creative
in finding ways they get those guys around.

420
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.640
Those guys. Yeah, I'm not
sure that helps at all, But

421
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you know, I would also say
too that we sit sixty quarterbacks as well.

422
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.720
Tader Menson on Tuesday that you know, Bill Baston, Daniels and Justin

423
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.000
Lambster and they playing quarterbacks. So
one other thing to look for is is

424
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kind of which quarterback is going to
start, and also you know what the

425
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.240
rotation is because it's been kind of
a first half one guy, second half

426
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the other, and the innsing to
see if that pattern holes or if he'll

427
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kind of use both in the same
quarter. So let's just see on that.

428
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.279
So Ben, if I if I'm
in Betton, Rouge, Louisiana or

429
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Houston, Texas, and I wake
up Sunday morning, I read the paper,

430
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I think they'll still exist, and
I see the Stanford lost two Sacramento

431
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:47.880
State, I'm thinking, what the
heck happened and how much of a setback

432
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:52.119
is it for the program? What
was the reaction back at Stanford because you

433
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think that would never happen. Yeah, well, yeah, It's important to

434
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keep in mind that Sack State is
the program that Troy Taylor was at before.

435
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So it's kind of a weird deal
where they got the program that Taylor

436
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:15.599
inherited from David Shaw lost the team
that he built at Sack State. So

437
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.839
I think that that piece of it, I think is giving Stanford fans and

438
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.599
health that hey, the team that
beat us is a team that he built.

439
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.839
And so if he can build a
team at sach State, why can't

440
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:30.640
he do the same at Stanford.
So I think that the loss to Sack

441
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.000
State is more of an indictment on
Shaw and the way the programs slipped under

442
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.279
him. And in a weird way, it's kind of a compliment to Taylor

443
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because he built that team. So
I think like that piece of it has

444
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:45.559
made Stanford fans that kind of pause
and like take a breath, like,

445
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.319
Okay, you know, we lost
to a really good FCS team that was

446
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.319
built by a former coach. And
then also see me at Sack State came

447
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:55.079
in fired up, and I mean, you know, so it was kind

448
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of a weird game. So if
that makes sense, Yeah, and another

449
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.200
you know, the Shaw administration and
is gone. But you know, what

450
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:04.400
Stanford was known for was one being
very physical both sides of the ball,

451
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:11.440
very tough defenses with guys that just
beat the hell out of you is defensively

452
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.319
or you know, there's is there
any of that left over or is their

453
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:19.599
approach also very different? No.
I think defenses they're trying to build that

454
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.559
that gap that one of the things
that we talked about after the loss of

455
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the USC was toughness that's one of
the things that they're defensive quartering and I'll

456
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.240
be able really harped on that was, hey, we gotta be tougher.

457
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.200
We got more physical they have and
there's some guys do play that way.

458
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:40.480
I mentioned guy than Bernard earlier INTI
linebacker. He's very physical, play tough.

459
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.279
And then you know, sophomore outside
linebacker David Bailey is a freak of

460
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.279
a talent, really good safter the
quarterback. He was a little deemed up

461
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.799
last week, which is why he
didn't play as much as they wanted him

462
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.960
to. But when he's a full
strength, he's an absolute beast. And

463
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:01.279
then cornerback Colin right Is the rights
of freshman, is a real talent.

464
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:07.599
So I definitely think they're trying to
get back to that. But you know,

465
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.279
it's brick by brick, and a
lot of I said, is is

466
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:15.160
really kind of waiting and tell guys
whom they recruited come in and change that

467
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.160
culture. But for now, they
got some guys that are capable and they're

468
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.519
just, you know, every day
trying to get tougher and stronger. So

469
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:23.880
yeah, I do think that that
toughness is something that Bobby April is looking

470
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.960
to him still in his defense as
well. So we know it was a

471
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.559
big deal that Arizona's going to the
Big twelve and and all that, all

472
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.799
the transfer, not the the alignments
changed. What was the what was the

473
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:39.279
earthquake like or even if it even
registered at Stanford? And now that they're

474
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:44.039
moving, did people actually care?
You know, hey, it's academics first,

475
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:49.160
We don't care. Who was the
vibe? Yeah, people are just

476
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.200
excited to have a home. And
that's in a Power five conference. Uh,

477
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:53.759
you know my subscribers, you know, who are a pretty good bell

478
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.119
weather of like what stan fans are
thinking, because the most diehards are on

479
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.200
my site. Uh, you know, they were just happy they found a

480
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.279
home. And that was an a
P five conference. So I think everyone

481
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.839
was hoping for the Big ten and
then when a Big ten didn't come calling,

482
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:14.240
than it was well, you know, Big twelve has certain advantages because

483
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:20.559
it's geography, acc has certain advantages
because the Olympic sports with matters a lot

484
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:22.480
of Stanford. So I think at
the end of I think I think you

485
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:27.160
know, everyone was I think it
was an earthquake when they moved in the

486
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.680
sense that like they have a new
home, with ACC, but there was

487
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:34.519
also just a real sigh of relief, like, Okay, we have a

488
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.359
home, we're in a P five
conference, we're with cal little strains be

489
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:42.519
playing on across the country in ACC, but we have a home and we

490
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.440
can more about logistics later. So
it was more kind of a collective just

491
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.079
si of like we survived this re
alignment thing working. Okay, we have

492
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:53.039
about thirty seconds. Just a quick
thought or maybe a quick prediction. Yeah,

493
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:58.559
you know, sitting at Stanford is
struggling. I would expect Arizona to

494
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.359
win this game, but I think
it's from a close game. I think

495
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.599
if you're looking if you're Stanford and
looking at the way that if you're looking

496
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:07.199
at a game you could maybe win
in league this year. I think this

497
00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:12.320
is one that they would you know
circle, So I would say arizonam like

498
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.760
three. That's im. I'm thinking, well, no, no surprise.

499
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.480
Okay, Okay, thank you Ben, thanks for gaining time. Appreciate it

500
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.239
any time, guys. Thank Yeah, I'm not surprised. I mean upon

501
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:29.239
for the review, Jay eleven points
a lot of points. Eleven points on

502
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.400
the road is a lot of points, given the history, Given the history,

503
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.639
right and That's why I've been saying
all week. I said, if

504
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.119
anybody is if there's one the wins
by seven, and people are saying,

505
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.719
oh that you're a bad team.
You didn't win by enough. Shut the

506
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.960
hell up. I just all you
want to do is walk out of there

507
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.360
with a win. Well, you
know, I've seen this in basketball when

508
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.280
there's ten people in the arena they
didn't show up to play. Yeah,

509
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.719
this could happen. No, you
got and you could tell. You could

510
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:57.199
tell from Jetfish's voice. Yeah,
it's like it's not that he's worried.

511
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.840
He's like, we can't take our
quote unquote I off the ball. Yeah,

512
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:02.679
we have got to go there and
take care of business right in this

513
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.639
game, no question about that.
Screw this up because it's a it's a

514
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.559
game that's important too, you know, for them to get in order to

515
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.480
have a chance to go to a
Bowl game, we could have to have

516
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:15.239
it. This is one that we
wrote down in pen Yeah right, right,

517
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:16.960
if they don't win this, they
don't win this, they win it's

518
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twelve minutes to anybody want to call
us today. We have that time,

587
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.159
but we also still that question out. And who would you think could go

588
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both ways? Uh? Recent history
for anybody right now that you can right?

589
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.159
Thinks good. Let's see here,
what about the running backs? Right

590
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widely? Wily he seems to be
the most versatile, right yeah, I

591
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don't know if he's fast enough to
be a defensive back though, and not

592
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:35.840
big enough to be a linebacker.
You know, I'll tell you what.

593
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.599
Jonah Coleman reminds me of Daryl Lewis. Has a running back okay, yeah

594
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.239
right, yeah. But I also
remember when when they made Darryl Lewis.

595
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.400
I remember the day that they made
Darryl Lewis a running back, where a

596
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.159
defensive back, Dick you know,
came and talked to us after practice,

597
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.559
darre Lewis is gonna play running back
defensive back now, And like we were

598
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.960
able to talk to Darryl Lewis that
day and he said he basically, I'll

599
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.360
do whatever. I gotta do,
whatever you want. Send had a whole

600
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:01.719
bunch of running backs at that time, Art great House. Yeah, it

601
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:06.599
was lotuless. I think uh My
Bates would have been on. David Eldridge

602
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.760
there too. Aldridge might have been
there at the time. Well, by

603
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:15.400
the way, Daryl, how do
you spell your name? Three years under?

604
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.199
Said yo too? Else, So
what did you tell us? No

605
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:22.239
one else, nobody but you know. Jonah Coleman I see, I see

606
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:23.760
him as somebody who could who might
be able to do that. He looks

607
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:29.320
like a very physical and a strong
kid. He hang, h, you're

608
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:31.960
on the are and I on the
ball. What's up? Nico? Good

609
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:35.239
to see you. The other night, I saw Nico at the game.

610
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.599
Oh you at the football game.
Okay, cool, what's up? Man?

611
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:40.719
Hey man, it still blew my
mind. You could walk to that

612
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.760
side of the stadium. Look at
you. What the hell were you were

613
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:46.719
you situated? Well, I was
going to my seat, which is but

614
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.800
we were walking across the Lowell Stevens. Was you're seeing your party? No,

615
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:52.559
we're I think it was at the
game? No, no, no,

616
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:54.559
where it was your party? All
right? By the Richard Jefferson.

617
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:58.400
So you were back into normal places. Okay, I was there. What

618
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.360
the hell? Hey man, I'm
just saying, man, I sat on

619
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.639
that side of the stated you did, and I never even tried to go

620
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.760
to where I saw you. Now, man, like, well we're kind

621
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:10.519
of on that end. I let
you know, I go to those snack

622
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.119
bars there. Look, look when
you're my age, Okay, at halftime,

623
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:16.960
you gotta get up and take a
walk, and you gotta you gotta

624
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.679
get some steps in because you get
stiff, are you, kidd? I

625
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.119
can fight like a dead leg.
No, I just get I just get

626
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.239
a little stiffs. I get up, I go take a walk. I'll

627
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.400
walk all the way to the other
side of the stadiument back every game at

628
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.719
halftime. Yeah, well all right, yeah, you know. I didn't

629
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.039
even know you could do that.
There, Man, got to keep the

630
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.840
blood flowing. Hey, though,
I want to tell you, guys,

631
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:44.559
you almost made my dad cry yesterday
about just the Catalina trojans Man. Oh

632
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:50.079
did you go to Catalina? Yeah? Man, he always brings up he

633
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:54.800
went to the state championship. Well, they're in good hands with the coach.

634
00:42:55.159 --> 00:43:00.519
I really liked that. I really
it seems like a good guy.

635
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.440
He was like a smart guy.
But I was coming about this weekend.

636
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.679
Okay, I don't care if they
win by three. They just need to

637
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:13.360
win. I'm glad to hear you
say that. I'm really good, So

638
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.599
are you. Did we ever ask
you how many twins? Realistically? How

639
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:21.639
many wins total? I still think
five? Yeah, I'm with you.

640
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:29.119
I'm with you, Nimber six?
Would you give them six? My real

641
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:35.639
answer would be eight, but I
learned not to get my expectations to happen.

642
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:37.800
You're you're one of the few that
don't get their explications. It's got

643
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.320
to be more than five, Nico. Come on, man, hey man,

644
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.039
if they win five, I will
not be mad. Okay, all

645
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.559
right, if they don't win this
weekend, they winning six one we know

646
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.360
that, we know, all right, Nico? All right, man,

647
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.360
good to see you. Yo.
Jays. Still take the Cowboys, man,

648
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.280
the Cardinals aren't going to cover it. I'm thinking, I'm thinking hard,

649
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:00.239
what is the spread? What is
it? Was twelve last I saw?

650
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.800
That's a lot of parts they sucked. Steve. Yeah, but it's

651
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.400
one of those trap things. You
know, it's easy. I hate double

652
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.559
digits point freends in the NFL.
But this one, this one's too might

653
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:15.119
be too tempty. You gotta take
it, man, because they need to

654
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.440
lose and then get a little din
out there. All right, man,

655
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:25.039
talk to you later. Nico.
Did you recognize him? Up? Saw

656
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:30.559
him and his dad. They were
walking and I'm just going in because we

657
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.760
come from you know that side,
Richard Jefferson, Jim. We come in

658
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.920
that that gate right there, like
where we come in by for the press

659
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:40.440
conferences. I'm in there, walking
across the the concourse there, and it

660
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:44.599
ran into him right there by the
by the s Who's who recognized whom?

661
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.280
We recognize each other at the same
time. Okay, I wouldn't know.

662
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.719
I wouldn't know what he looks like. No, I remember, Okay,

663
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.000
got the you got the red beard
going and I recognized his dad and shaggy.

664
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.559
Yeah, he shouted me. He
bought a new hat, showed me

665
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:02.400
his new hat. He's got a
fifteen and five eighths. Uh. I

666
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:07.679
mean like I always a big head, Like you got a big head?

667
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.719
Wow? Yeah? So okay,
yeah I saw those guys. It's fine,

668
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.880
Okay, call anybody else? Want
to call? Uh? Two ay

669
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:17.320
athletes? Which way? Who do
you? Where would you go? Is

670
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:22.280
there was gonna win this weekend?
Two sport athletes? I think you could,

671
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.119
uh well, Ortiz try to pull
that off, right until he didn't?

672
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:37.039
Basketball Kelvin Kelvin basketball end in a
well and we I told you one

673
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:43.719
story, right we uh Francisco and
I uh we we said that to him.

674
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.400
So what we did was I think
he told us. I told you

675
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:50.840
because we had him on the show. We got some video equipment and went

676
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:54.159
to the football stadium and had people
passed through the ball so he can use

677
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:59.079
that as a video. He got
got him right a chance and heston and

678
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.480
he just didn't see it happening.
Yeah he got it, look though,

679
00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:05.280
yeah he did. But that's a
good pick. That's a good pick.

680
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:08.599
Well, who there's there's a remember
Craig Birdman was on the eighty eighteen.

681
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:12.519
Yeah, he was one of the
gumbies, right, yeah, right,

682
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.800
I think he was more he was
a practice guy, but yeah, you

683
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:17.599
know he was. He was good
friends with the with McMillan. They went

684
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:23.840
to the same high school. Baseball
Kenny often of course Kenny Man every he's

685
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:28.880
borderline, borderline, a Hall of
Famer. Yeah, I wouldn't know that.

686
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.800
It's funny because he and Luke had
this weird relationship, right, Kenny

687
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.639
was upset at Loot because he didn't
become an NBA player. Kenny, you

688
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.840
made more money in baseball. You
made the right choice. He did.

689
00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:46.800
He was an incredible athlete. Yeah, I know. I told you about

690
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:52.360
why he throws snowball on a line
up at NAU that I to this day,

691
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.719
I'm still it's remarkable and just nobody
he threw that, and I thought,

692
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:02.320
well, he hit the he he
well, he hit the lumberjack statue,

693
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.960
right, and then you know what, and he was aiming for that,

694
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:07.880
yeah, and it just exploded and
it was great. Richard, if

695
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:09.880
you want to give us a call, give us, give me a call.

696
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:15.199
Richard's bringing up some Oklahoma stuff like
for Riley and and you know this

697
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.440
did Dick ever shouldn't say this,
Oh no, I should, I can

698
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.440
say this. Come on here,
I know he did coming to say j

699
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:28.760
he didn't treat us fairly. He
did on the cop thing he said,

700
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:30.360
you'd treated us too fairly. Yeah. No, But did he get mad

701
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.559
at you? Point? Never got
mad mad at me one time and I

702
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.480
probably overstepped now again, I remember
him having conversations, and he had a

703
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.639
conversation with me. It said,
rep is all you want, rip me

704
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.320
and the coaches all you want,
but don't but don't rip on the player.

705
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:45.800
Yeah, yeah, you know he
loved this player. There's no question

706
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.039
about that. I reported something that
was on the airplane and it was simple.

707
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.760
It was something like this, and
he pulled me aside. And when

708
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:54.119
the press crimes, just don't ever
do that again. This is what I

709
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:59.159
do. It was something simple.
It was about a test and something because

710
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.559
the guy told me and he just
pulled me aside and he was pissed.

711
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:05.880
But he never made it. But
again he didn't. He didn't no publicly

712
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.800
suspend you from from the program.
Of course his things, you know,

713
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:12.719
he didn't like club. But the
funny thing about is they say they don't

714
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.840
read it. Of course they did. They read it. They read every

715
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.760
bit of it. They read every
bit of it. Well, I think

716
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.920
I've told you the story about Dick
and the bowl games, right, So

717
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.280
it was it was his, uh
his it was the eighty eight Sea Okay,

718
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.679
they they were they had gone seven
and seven and four. Sure,

719
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.559
so we had the last the last
Sunday. Remember we do a Sunday.

720
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:37.400
He didn't call her a press conference. You just go gather with him in

721
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.199
his office. And we asked him
a question about you think you're gonna get

722
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:43.320
to a bowl game? Oh,
we're seven and four. I don't know.

723
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:44.960
You know, I don't really pay
attention to that stuff. It's not

724
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.239
up to me, you know.
I just let them decide. And then,

725
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.559
but this is before they made all
the ball announced. He said,

726
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.239
I just let them decide. I
don't pay any attention to it. Everybody

727
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:54.920
left. I'm like, really,
Dick, you really don't know. He

728
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:59.480
goes, He goes come here and
go into his office and he's got all

729
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.480
these paper was all over his desk
trying to figure out scenarios about how they're

730
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.280
going to get a bulgate. He
had everybody's records and where they should go,

731
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:08.440
and well, we could go here
if they go here, and we'll

732
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:13.760
go there. So he had had
it all figured out, but publicly he

733
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:15.920
said, I don't pick it.
Yeah, sure, of course, that's

734
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.599
funny. And then then if we
ended up happening in that year, it

735
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:23.119
was between them, between Arizona and
Oregon to go to the Freedom Bowl,

736
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:28.199
and they didn't and Oregon got it
didn't That was my first sure current the

737
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.400
team and that ending and they didn't
go, but well you would have been

738
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.519
at that Sunday thing. Well I
stuck around it and I was just chatting

739
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.039
with him, and then he he
he had mapped out the whole he had

740
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.599
mapped out for everybody was going,
but he was hearing publicly and stuff like

741
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:44.280
that when he was hearing from from
the UFA administration, and he said,

742
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:46.000
and he said that, he said, it's between us and Oregon for the

743
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:52.840
Freedom but and then Oregon got sure
sure that was eighty eight. That was

744
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.320
In fact, I ran into somebody
today that you skate country guy. He

745
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.599
was skate and no, no,
no, no, who kind of owned

746
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.960
in the that time And he said, I mentioned that, but that was

747
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.320
eighty nine. I think that was
eighty nine. Eighty nine they went to

748
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.119
the Copper Ball. No, no, but no, he was Malvin Smith

749
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.079
Smith because he was in eighty nine. Because no, it was ninety because

750
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.440
they didn't covering in the team and
night then eighty nine. It was an

751
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:19.360
eighty nine. I was I thinking
she was because it was it was the

752
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.679
it was the night they beat Oklahoma
that night. Oh jeez, I can't

753
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:30.280
remember that. It was that.
I remember night. Yeah, I remember

754
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.840
it was late tonight. It was
that. It was then then they beat

755
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.480
in Oklahoma and it was that night
in February, March. It had to

756
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.280
be October, late September, October. Yeah, yeah, okay, I

757
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:44.960
don't remember that. I have a
very vivid recollection. What did you have

758
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:55.679
yesterday for lunch? Yeah? I
had some some shredded beafario you just no

759
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:01.039
I did. I had some leftover
beaty at the house, and I had

760
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.960
a wider burger today. I'm looking
because I'm losing it too. I'm losing

761
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.400
it too, don't get that guy. Yeah, okay, no, yeah,

762
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.840
that's that. That's what. But
again, you know, coaches,

763
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.679
they pay attention, of course,
of course they do. And who wouldn't.

764
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.480
I mean, you know, you
know, people say stuff about me

765
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.960
or did when I was, you
know, doing the some of the pr

766
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:22.760
stuff. I wanted to know,
what are you what are you saying about

767
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.039
our company? What are you saying? Sure, of course we read everything,

768
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:29.519
and they try to pretend like,
well, I don't I don't have

769
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:31.039
time to read all that stuff.
I don't pay attention. It doesn't affect

770
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:35.320
well in that way. You have
to gauge the public perception of what's going

771
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:38.320
on in that in your world,
that world. But but they do get

772
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:42.639
those things affecting, you know.
You know Nick Saban another one famous for

773
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.000
saying, oh, I don't care, but yeah he cares. Yeah,

774
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:46.800
of course he cares, you know
he does. Of course he cares totally,

775
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.519
He totally cares. And then he
goes to bank and catches those checks

776
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:57.000
and says, I don't give a
crap black black, But you know,

777
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.519
of course they do. They always
hate a good show. I'm glad you

778
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.800
made it your day to day.
This was fun day. I loved I

779
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.559
loved gatting Bruce Hill on the show. It's very cool. Uh again,

780
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:09.719
you know very you know, when
I was fourteen years old, man,

781
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:14.880
I was like I had heroes in
sports, right, and and and those

782
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.320
three guys that actual those four guys. You throw those three guys and and

783
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.159
T Bell in there, and they
were one of my young dudes too.

784
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.679
They would be young dudes. Now
three of them are great, right right,

785
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:28.440
so very cool. So anyways,
that was fun. I got a

786
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.039
glad had a chance to do that. All Right, we gotta thank you

787
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:34.039
all for being here. We'll be
back tomorrow. We'll kick around the Stanford

788
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.239
game, make our picks fab five
Friday picks. And Jake Fisher will be

789
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.719
here as well if you're breaking down
for us, so he shouldn't be back.