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Now one of your pudding. I
got a string going on here, something

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just cause my dog. Something killed
your dog, my dog. We're flying

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through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it,

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Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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over the fence and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,

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I didn't see any cars. All
I saw was my dog coming over

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the fence. Sat what are you
putting? We got some wonder or something

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crawling around out here? Did you
see what it was or was it was?

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Standing enough. I'm out here looking
through the window now and I don't

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see anything. I don't want to
go outside. Jesus Quice, you better

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hello, hit somebody out here?
What quin on out there? I thought

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of a bitch of about text forty
nine. I don't know easy an out

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there. Yeah, I'm welcome right
hey, I folks on a welcome our

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guests back to the show. It
is Ryan from the hit television show on

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Wild TV Sasquatch University. Welcome back
to the show man. Yeah, thanks

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so much for having me back on. Brian, glad to be here.

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I am glad to have you.
So let's get right into it. When

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you and I talked last you were
going into this television project. You guys

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are what I think six or seven
episodes in, So why don't you just

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talk a little bit about the background
of the bat, how that came about,

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and what the process has been like
for you. Yeah. Absolutely,

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it's been a big change from obviously
what we used to going from just being

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students to producing and hosting a TV
show. It's a big adjustment. But

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yeah, it's been a really cool
journey getting to do and in the show,

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we go across Ontario, as I'm
sure anyone that's watched has seen,

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and go and meet with big co
witnesses and follow up on different pieces of

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evidence that have come out of Ontario. It's been really cool getting to do

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and it's really, I guess solidified
my belief in Bigfoot being here in Ontario,

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because I still do leave a little
bit of room for skepticism, and

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before I left a little bit more. But we've gone and met with so

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many people and we've gotten so many
more reports than I ever imagined like we

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could in Ontario. And I'm sure
the odd one that comes in is maybe

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someone's scooting around, but we have
so many where it. We'll call them

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after and then it's we're on the
phone flotn hour where they're telling us all

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this bit of a detail and we
go meet with them and see where it

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is. And so that makes sense
why I would be here. It's been

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really cool getting to do that.
So you went into the show, I'm

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assuming from our last conversation that you
were on board with the bigfoot thing,

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just like me talking to witnesses.
Even I have days in my own where

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I'm scratching my head and thinking,
oh is any of this reel at all?

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And then you talk to an amazing
witness that has just an out there

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encounter, it just solidifies it.
Like you said, has that been the

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case with you guys? What has
stuck out to you? Any witnesses along

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the way that have stuck out over
the first few episodes of the show that

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you can share with the audience and
talk a little bit about them. Counter.

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Yeah, absolutely, that's a pretty
tough question, because, like we've

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gotten witnesses all over the board.
Obviously in the bigfoot world, there's a

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few different theories out there about what
bigfoots are, and we're super open to

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all of them because until it's proven
for certain by a very credible team of

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scientists. I think everything's an option, and the reports have really been on

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both sides of it. I'd say
we've gotten some that are really more interdimensional

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paranormal from some very credible people in
my opinion, and yeah, we've gotten

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others that are are year more mainstream
bigfoot reports that go along with the flesh

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blood creatures type of theory. I
was hoping going into the show that would

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be something that I learned more about
or maybe fell on one side of the

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fence or the other. And it
was like, Okay, I'm pretty sure

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it's this, but I'm honestly still
if anything like more stuck on the fence.

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I was maybe sitting up on top
of it, but now I'm like

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woven into the fence top. Yes, it's been pretty cool get to do

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that. But yeah, in terms
of a witness that's really set out,

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that's a tough one because, yeah, you've gotten so many good ones that

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you know are just your your solid
everyday people, you know what. One

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of the ones, at least for
me, that really stood out was Norma

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in the in episode one. I
just I really liked her as a witness,

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just because of how credible she seemed. And it wasn't even just her,

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it was when we went. We
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but some of her family members were
there and they've been saying, man,

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this happened back and I think eighty
five was her siting. But her family

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members were saying like, oh yeah, she's been talking about it since eighty

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five and has never changed like a
detail the story. And her grandson was

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there and it was like, oh
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never changed anything about it and showed
me where she saw the big Foot around

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here. It was just a few
minutes from her house, but it needs

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sense. It was a very you
know, a lot of forest around Here's

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a clip from Ryan's interview with No
from Sasquatch University on Wild TV. Welcome

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to Sasquatch University. On this show, me and my co host Joel and

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our team are gonna head across Ontario
to go look for Bigfoot and prove to

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you guys that they're real and they're
here in this province. I hope that

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by the end of the season you're
all believers just like us. Enjoy the

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show. On this episode, a
Sasquatch University. We're in the Blue Mountains

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of Ontario. We're on our way
to go muse our friend and research or

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Cody. Then we're gonna go talk
to Norma, a local bigfoot witness.

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I was coming home with my neighbor
from the Dundalk area towards Flesherton Anyway.

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All of a sudden, bigfoot came
from the left side of the road over

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to the right on an angle,
and he was walking fairly upright, not

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stooped over, walking very very quickly. And I don't know how we didn't

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hit him, that's how close we
were. Just as he hit the gravel

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on the right hand side of the
road, he looked right at me and

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then disappeared into a very light fog, and there was a bit of snow

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on the ground. So it had
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to be in March of nineteen eighty
five. And he was great, and

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because of the dampness, I suppose
his hair was kind of like in a

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diamond shape hanging off his body.
He didn't have hair around his features.

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There was no hair hanging into his
eyes or no wizard cheeks. And I

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said to my girlfriend I said,
did you see that? And she said

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did you see that? I didn't
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creature at all. So you were
obviously very close to this creature and got

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a very good look at it.
How many feet precisely do you think it

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was to the car? No more
than two feet. That's why I say,

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I don't know how we didn't hit
it. You know, many people

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say that, oh, you saw
a bear. No, I didn't see

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a bear. And could a bear
really walk that far on his hind legs

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and without stumbling? What do you
think this creature is or what sasquatch is?

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Exactly? They seem like a hairy
human me, and it worries me

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because there's so many houses being built
in areas like this that their homes are

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being taken away and they're going to
have to find better places to hide.

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And I worry about what's going to
happen if any of them are caught,

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because I don't think. I just
get the feeling that they don't mean any

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harm to us. Before I saw
them, whenever I heard something about an

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alien or people seeing something a little
weird, I would say, oh,

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they're just crazy, you know.
I don't believe it. Now. I

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can't say someone else hasn't seen something, how can I? Because there are

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people that are saying the same thing
about me that I used to think about

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others. It was very interesting for
me because we got a bunch of reports

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that you know, I felt were
very credible close by to where that encounter

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happened. So that was really cool. And we also had in that same

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episode, yeah, a piece like
an audio recording of what seems to be

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a big foot howl that we sent
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Ontario and they couldn't identify, but
we showed it to Matt Moneymaker. He

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said and thought either it was someone
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it or a real big foot making
the sound, not one known animal or

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anything. And yeah, that was
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happened, and a bunch of others, And it was along the Aagor Escarpment,

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which we've gotten a lot of reports
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tall enough to be a mount,
but maybe a thousand foot hill, and

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it literally runs to like half of
Ontario and there's tons of caves and things

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like that within it. It's a
really cool place. And with our investigation

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that episode too, or I think
maybe it was the next episode, we

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had what would seem to be some
rocks being thrown, so that was pretty

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spooky, and it wasn't far from
where all this went on. That was

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one that really stood out. But
then there's so many other witnesses that were

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just amazing too, so we're really
lucky to get to talk to all of

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them. It's always a tough question
for me. People ask me, what

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has been your favorite person that you've
interviewed on the show? What's your favorite

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episode? And I really can't pick
that because every single one of them leaves

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me in awe, usually in some
way, shape, form, or fashion.

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That's one of the questions. I
certainly want to get into some of

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the high stranger and stuff because that's
been on the radar recently, the high

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strangeness of the WU aspect of Bigfoot, So I certainly want to get into

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some of those encounters. But that
was the other question I had for you

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that you've already answered, But if
you would go into a little bit of

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detail, is this allowing you guys
to actually get out into the woods and

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do your own investigations, get into
the woods, boots on the ground research

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and if so, what kind of
experiences are you guys having out there in

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the bush. Yeah, that's a
great question. So every episode we go

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and do a night investigation for a
good chunk of the episode. Yeah,

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they've been pretty interesting. There's been
a number of them where nothing really goes

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on, unfortunately, but then there's
been a few where we have had some

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stuff go on, and those have
really stood out, because yeah, there's

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been like I mentioned that the rock
throwing one, actually what is interesting,

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and I think that's episode two and
the start of episode three in the show.

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That was just really spooky, and
it was at a location where someone

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else had reported rocks being thrown at
them, which is why we went there

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in the first place, and a
lot of other kind of paranormal stuff that

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maybe you could even place more on
the wou side has gone on there,

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like people hearing their names called from
the woods and stuff like that. Then

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having the number of sasquatching counters reported
to us from not very far away really

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made it a place we felt we
needed to go. And then when we

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were there, it was just it
was just really spooky and I don't know

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if it's maybe the spookiness like more
in my head, like I'm doing it

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to myself and riling myself up where
and I'm getting a little scared out there.

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But then it really heidens once you
start hearing rocks get thrown nearby,

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and you're like, oh my God, Like maybe I'm not wrong to be

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a little spook. I think.
On the other hand, too, does

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get you a little more dialed into
the investigation, I think, because sometimes

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you're just there and because just before
that happened, Joel and Cody were out

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doing their stands and moving around the
trails and stuff where we were, and

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I was up in a tree stand
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and my job wasn't too hard that
night. I just had to sit

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there and check the therms, so
it wasn't too tricky, and they had

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most of the action. But then
when we got back over to them that

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it took up again. So yeah, I really do wonder more about the

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wu aspect. And we've had some
other investigations where we've heard what sound like

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things getting thrown and we never found
a rock or whatever, but something loud

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and at the end of the day, like it is possible, and maybe

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a tree branch oun we were just
there at the right time kind of thing

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that's absolutely possible. Or if you're
in a hilly area and there's rocks,

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maybe a rock just happens to roll
down a hill that like there are and

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those things do happen. But it
is really spooky when you're out there and

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you're doing stuff that people say,
do this, and what bigfoot will come

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interact with you, and then you
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And then just other investigations too that
have been creaky. When we had

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one where we kept seeing like wolves
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park or a gonflin Highlands area here
Ontario, and yeah, we were out

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in this area and then our camera
guys like, oh, I just saw

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wolf over there. And then another
night we were out driving in a similar

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area and going up and down at
highway at night because there's a lot of

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road crossing siding so big, but
obviously and we took our therms and you

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know, you could really see well, but we just kept seeing coyotes and

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foxes and wolves go across the highway
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Fortunately, no they put that time, but those have been some of the

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investigations that are are pretty memorable because
of how freaked out you get. I

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think, yeah, I definitely know
what you're talking about, because I just

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got back. I flew into Calgary
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went on an expedition with Todd standing
for seven days. I've tried to

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explain to people what it's like to
be so remote, and I knew that

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we were going into a remote area, right. I've seen Todd's videos,

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I've talked to Les stroud Less even
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he's been to some of the most
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I was mentally prepared the best way
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three hours outside of Calgary, you
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road, and we drove for another
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You get there and you get this
feeling of oh shit, this is

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really happening. I live in a
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nothing but wooded area, tons of
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be at Walmart. So I'm not

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really that isolated. But when you
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there is a whole different level of
heightened awareness. I think is probably a

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good way to put it. I
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don't know how far away we're talking
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you are at versus where I'm at. But it's dead silent in the woods

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there, at least it was for
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used to crickets here in North Carolina. We have tons of water on the

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property. It was dead silent when
we got that far out into the bush,

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so every little sound sticks out and
we were having whoops, we were

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having tree knocks. We were hearing
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what was being thrown. That was
the weird thing. We thought it was

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maybe these little pine cones, but
we never found them, so it could

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have been rocks. There were a
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something was definitely being hurled at us. And it's just a really spooky feeling.

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You're out there in the middle of
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for bigfoot, and then you start
having these experiences, and I too,

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like you, was like, oh
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my head here. And there was
one particular night where we were having these

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wood knocks. Todd was there,
Hey, I think that's a sasquatch.

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That was definitely a big foot.
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no lights whatsoever. We're walking in
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leave the campsite, we leave the
fire behind, and we're walking two or

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three hundred yards into the bush.
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most people, but unless you're in
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woods, even with a group of
people, I was shaking, dude.

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I was literally shaking, like I
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a little cold, but I think
the adrenaline was pumping so much. I

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wasn't really scared, because I'm not
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the woods that you can't see,
it's a different sort of feelings. Are

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you guys experiencing that when you're in
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these rocks thrown? Is that kind
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of your mind, I know this
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it happens, do you have those
second thoughts at times? Yeah? Absolutely,

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and saying it sounds all about that, because yeah, like there's some

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times where, like some of the
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where we're not like too far from
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it's not as bad. But those
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which we do and you'll see in
that the show if you check it

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out, there's somewhere we go way
out there and it's it's really freaky.

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We did this one out at a
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way down this dirt logging road kind
of thing where there's no service and then

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you lost service like an hour ago
kind of thing. Then like from there

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an hour or so ATV ride out
to where this and then and you start

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hearing some stuff and yeah, it
just really like it's so much different when

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you're there versus Oh, it doesn't
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woods, but when here I'm there, it's really different because you're in that

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situation and it's not even just big
but you have to worry about like there's

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bears, there's moose, wolves,
like Mountain, there's a lot in Ontario

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that when you go out to these
places are there and can get you at

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night, and like it does happen
to people, not too often, but

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it does happen, and you have
to really look out for that stuff too,

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because like all all of those things, whether it's bigfoot or one of

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those other things, it's really freaky, especially when you do have limited visibility

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or maybe your therm stops working for
a little bit or something like that,

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runs out of battery and you can't
see anything with the therms. It's a

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lot easier if you are able to
see watch around, depending on what environment

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you're in. It's not like too
dense bush. But yeah, it's really

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freaky, and especially those times and
you do start seeing animals on the therms

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and are hearing things that really start
making you believe a bigfoot's there. Yeah,

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definitely a lot frea good and people
think when you're out there, Yeah,

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definitely is for sure. And I'll
be honest, I've always been very

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skeptical when it comes to bigfoot.
I still am I probably always will be

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a skeptic until I see one.
But being that far into the bush and

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experiencing some of the things that I
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the tree knocks, the vocalizations that
we were hearing, it's clearly not

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a person. We know there's bayer
out in that area, that particular area

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where Todd does research. We know
there's a six or seven hundred pound mail

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grizzly that patrols that area, so
we were always on heightened alert for him.

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They don't pick up rocks and smack
trees, they don't sound like people

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talking in the woods, and they
certainly don't make whoop sounds. So once

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we checked those boxes and I was
pretty certain that it wasn't any of those

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things, it really sunk into me
that I think I'm really live interacting in

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a lot of cases with a sasquatch
here, because I don't know what else

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to call it other than what it
possibly is, and that's a very different

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thing for me. I didn't really
expect to go into that situation. Obvious

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it's a lot different than what you
guys are doing. But I was going

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into a sort of a sketchy situation
with a controversial dude that's been accused of

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hoaxing for many years, right.
I really went into that situation thinking I'm

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probably going to be hoaxed here.
But once you get there and you see

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how remote you are, it completely
takes that off of the radar because there's

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literally no way to get there unless
you dry in with us or we hear

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you driving in. So it really
opened up my mind, and that trip,

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really I learned a ton about myself, and then I learned a lot

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about what I believe to be sasquatch
activity because I heard things and I didn't

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see anything, but I heard a
lot of things, saw a lot of

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tree breaks, saw a lot of
footprints. I don't know if in the

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same area you guys are ian.
Are you finding the tree breaks, are

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you finding structures? And do you
guys have that sort of spanga moss kind

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of thing where footprints can last for
years? Are you finding any evidence as

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far as the footprints, tree breaks, or any structures are concerned. Stay

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tuned for more Sasquatch out to see
we'll be right back after these messages.

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Yeah, we've met with some people
that have had footprint stuff in scented to

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us and we covered in the show. And yeah, I've actually just wrapped

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doing the final details on that episode
this week before it gets sent to the

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network and then in a month or
two it'll be on the air, I

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think. But yeah, so there's
some of that. But then we always

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look out for tree structures and things
like that when we're out there. But

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for us, it is tricky sometimes
to tell what is it isn't because the

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trees can fall on themselves and stuff
like that. So we look sometimes,

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but we haven't found one where we're
like, oh, we think this is

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a very unusual break or anything like
that. But then there have been other

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ones where there are other times where
we'll be out there and then we'll find

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a healthy tree and at a spot
where someone said they've seen or heard stuff

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going on, and we'll find broken
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thing. Who knows what that is? It give me a number of things,

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but we look out for that a
lot, and it's weird when you

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start finding that, like that same
instance with the bog, like Joel and

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Tody kept finding like tree breaks at
about that height, but like on healthy

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trees and twisted off kind of thing, so that was weird. But then

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again it could be a number of
things, so it's tougher to tell with

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some of those, at least in
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that for me in Radium because the
tree structures there are plentiful tree breaks.

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Let me say tree breaks, not
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plentiful in that area. Of course, I look at them from an Ockham's

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razor point of view and say that's
probably just a broken tree, snow load,

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wind, whatever. But it's difficult
at times for me to rationalize how

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some of those three four inch trees
in some cases are broken so cleanly seven

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to eight feet up they're almost completely
intact. It's really hard to explain for

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people who haven't seen it. But
I've posted tons of it on our Instagram

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and on videos on YouTube from the
expedition so people can go and take a

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look. I even did an experiment
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a half inch tree, and it
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do it, and I was trying
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of the wood together to make like
a clean break so it doesn't frey out

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like just snowload and things like that. That is obvious, that's typically what

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we were finding. But in what
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people on the expedition were calling tree
breaks, were more of these clean the

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fibers of the tree on the backside
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So we did find a lot of
that, but again it's one of

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those things where it's very difficult to
say. I tell you, one thing

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that wasn't difficult for me to say, this is really strange, was we

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found a it was probably a four
hundred year old Douglas fir, and there

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was three probably eighty foot tall trees
like that had been They looked like they

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had been placed there that came to
a point on three sides of the tree,

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all within probably four to six inches
of each other. Two of the

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trees were positioned. One was exactly
due north and the other one was exactly

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due south. Now I estimate these
things probably weighed fifteen to eighteen hundred pounds

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apiece, and there were water marks
where they had clearly, at least to

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me, clearly been laying on the
ground and that were picked up against this

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tree. It was one of the
strangest things I've ever seen that to me

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is a little less subjective than a
tree break, because something had to do

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that. These trees had no root
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They were placed there. And that
was literally the night, the last

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night of the expedition, we took
a walk out. Collectively, all of

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us went out at one time and
watched the sunset, and then we stumbled

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across this. So I'm curious if
you guys are finding any of the tree

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structures that make you scratch your head
and say, outside of a tree break,

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this could possibly be something that was
made by a sasquatch and maybe even

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people doing bushcraft. Are you finding
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Yeah, we haven't found like a
tree structure that's really like blown me

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away like. We have found them, but I think most of them,

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if I had to guess, we're
probably natural occurrences and things like that.

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I don't know if i'd attribute it
to sasquatch activity with those, but we

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have found those, some of those
tree breaks that have been really weird,

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but not so much the tree structures
all the time. But I hope we

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do eventually, and we always keep
an eye out for them. But yeah,

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the ones we've found there hasn't been
like a smoking gune alongside them,

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the one you've found there where this
is really weird. We found ones where

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Okay, this is weird, and
it's possible that Bigfoot did do it,

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but it's probably more likely they just
happened to fall this way or something like

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that, or maybe someone did it. Yeah, so it's obviously it's pretty

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tough to say with tree structures,
but yeah, no kind of smoking done

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one. If that makes sense,
It definitely makes sense. I don't know

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Joel and Cody. I've never met
Joel or Cody either one, so you'll

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have to speak a little bit for
them. Did either of them come in

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skeptically? How did they get into
the Bigfoot thing? Were they part of

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the Trent University Sasquatch University thing before
you guys got involved in together in the

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show. Are they skeptical? Were
they skeptical? And has that changed since

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you guys have started doing the show. Yeah, that's a great question.

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So Joel's super involved in the trent
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because I graduated last year. Yeah, he's doing a great job in the

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club's still going really strong and in
over three hundred members now. They're doing

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really awesome. So that's how he
got involved with it and worked his way

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up through the club so to speak. Not but he's so he's so awesome

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with it. And yeah, and
then in Cody, I actually met.

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He got in touch because he's in
the Bigfoot on it on his own,

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and we really shared a lot of
the same views on the subject and he's

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very open to all the possibilities and
just wants to learn. We've bonded over

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that and it met a few times
and got to know each other a lot

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more over the past year or two. Such an awesome guy, and yet

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they both are on the same wave
length and that they do leave room for

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skepticism. I think I'm probably the
biggest believer in the group if I had

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to give it to one of us. But yeah, Joel's kind of referred

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to himself as a I think like
a Bigfoot agnostic sometimes, where he's fifty

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to fifty and he's seen a lot
where really make them go Okay, this

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doesn't make sense or what can only
be a big butt and especially with a

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lot of the witnesses we talk to. And then yeah, same with Cody.

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I think they're the kind of guys
until they fully see one in front

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of them and they know it's not
a dude in a suit and it's the

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only then they'd probably be one hundred
and ten percent. But yeah, they're

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both very it's very good, open
minded guys and really great to do investigations

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with. So we always have a
great time out there too. Everyone gets

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along so well, yeah, it's
just awesome guys. It definitely makes a

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difference. Man. So we've talked
a little bit about the WU and the

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flesh and blood and the high strangeness. I've gone back and forth on that

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myself, but I think I've come
down on the fact that people have their

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experiences and whatever that looks like for
them, I think it falls into a

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couple of categories. For me,
it's number one, they had the experience,

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it's real, that happened to their
batshit crazy. Or three they made

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it up completely they're just liars.
Right. Then there's this other category of

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sort of this unknown. I have
to try to every story and every encounter

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that I document, I put things
in those compartments, and it is difficult

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as a person very much like you
who is open minded to everybody's experiences.

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But at some point I think you
have to come down one way or the

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other. That's how I do it
for me. As far as you and

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investigating, where are you on the
difference in the woo and the high strangeness

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versus the flesh and blood? Are
you leaning more in one camp? Are

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you going to stay entangled in that
fence? Do you ever see yourself on

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one side or the other? Maybe
talk a little bit about what it would

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take to get you there. As
far as evidence, I think for me

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obviously evidence is the biggest thing.
Or maybe having experiences that which I guess

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would be evidence as well. That
kind of pushed me towards one side or

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the other. But it has been
interesting because back when I started and ever

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since, I was like a little
kid interesting, but I was always very

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bless and blood really thought that's what
it was. I didn't really give a

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ton of thought growing up to the
other stuff. I'd hear some stuff about

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it. I was like, oh, that game right. But as I

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got older, I you know,
and especially since I started the Transasquat Society,

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realized there's a lot more to it
than I've initially thought or realized.

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And that's really opened my mind to
you know, really trying to learn a

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lot more about it and seeing,
okay, is is there something to this?

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And the more I've done that there
really seems to be. So I

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was probably almost all blessed and blood
and now I'm fifty to fifty. So

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I think that's an interesting trend when
I think about it, that I've gotten

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there. And like I said,
I think until there's really conclusive stuff that's

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been really thoroughly examined by very credible
scientists and whoever, I won't ever be

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one of those guys that that's all. This is one hundred percent what it

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is and it's the only thing.
I think. I'll always be open one

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layer or the other, even if
I lean to one more. It's tough

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to say, but I think I
think for me, like a one experience

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could change all that. If one
teleported in my bedroom here behind me and

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talk to me telepathically and everything,
then I'd probably be all in on that

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and a lot of people would probably
think I'm crazy. Unfortunately, a lot

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of the people that does happen to, even people in the bigfoot world,

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think they're crazy. I think that's
a little closed minded, especially when you're

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talking about Bigfoot. But yeah,
I hope people do give that side more

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of a chance until there is really
definitive proof. I have talked to some

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really incredible people about it. Yeah, it truly left me scratching my head.

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So I hope I figured out at
least I'm definitely right there with you,

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man. So what's the ultimate goal
for the show? What do you

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guys have coming up? What's the
ultimate goal for you? I ask a

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lot of people what keeps you coming
back? I know for me, at

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least, I'd love to see you
one. I'd love to have an experience.

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That's the answer for a lot of
people. But what's coming up for

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the show? What are you guys
working on? What can people expect when

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they go and check out the show
and future shows and then close out.

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What's the ultimate goal for you and
your research? Is it to have that

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experience? Is it to prove the
species? What's the ultimate thing for you?

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Yeah? For me personally, yeah, obviously my goal is to see

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one have that experience. Is something
that I've dreamt about for a really long

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time, and we put a lot
of work and effort into trying to make

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that happen, and definitely have had
some experiences that might be that I like

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to think I'm all my way there, but yeah, for me personally,

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that's what it is. But then
also sharing it with people and promoting positive

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education on it. And I really
would like to make a difference in the

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big button cameraun the world because I
think there's so much I guess stigma and

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negativity associated with the subject. I'd
really like to change that, and that's

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why I started the Trends Sasquat Society
to get it into universities and a little

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more talked about and respect it.
I think it's helped, and I think

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going forward that's what's necessary to change
the subject, and I think change is

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coming. You look at the UFO
subject with the governments now releasing the tiktac

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video and stuff and saying it's real. We don't know what they are,

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but I don't know if that will
happen, but I hope it does,

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or maybe they know something that they'd
be able to share at some point.

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I really don't know. I've heard
people say that they hide stuff or do

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what, but I don't know myself. But I just hope more information comes

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to light and the subject really changes, and I really hope I can be

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a part of that and have a
positive impact on all that. That's really

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the goal for me. And then
yeah, for the show and everything,

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I guess the same deal. Every
episode we talk with a guest researcher and

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to just discuss what happened in the
episode or some of the thoughts on it

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and advice and yeah, just sharing
the subject with people and hopefully proving that

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big puts here in Ontario as I've
always suspected, and I really do believe

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now after meeting with so many people, that I'm seeing big poots here in

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this province. Yeah. I new
episodes every week at at what five point

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thirty pm Eastern Time, come out
on Wild TV, and it's always on

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wild TV plus anyone that wants to
check it out, it's always there.

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But yeah, I just hope people
enjoy the show and enjoy watching us learn

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about the subject. So yeah,
that's awesome, man, Everybody go check

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it out. I will link to
it in the show notes. All you

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got to do is click on it
and go check out Ryan, Joel,

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and Cody on Sasquatch University on wild
TV. Thanks for coming on and sharing

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that with us, Man, I've
had a blast talking to you. You

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too, Ryan, Yeah, thanks
for having me on. They say you

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don't gotta go home, but you
can't stay. I don't want to happen.

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