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Tonight, we are in the Redwoods
of California to meet Indy and India's

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account began a few months after suffering
the loss of his father, he had

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a dream where his father appeared to
him and told him there is no death.

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The next day, Indy had an
extraordinary experience which seemed to confirm his

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father's visit to him in his dream. Indy is up next, but first,

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very much appreciated. Now on with
the show. Hello, Indy, welcome

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to the show. Thank you for
having me. Nick. It's nice to

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have you join us today. And
you're calling from California. Yes, yes,

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I am happy to be here.
Man. Now, Indy, you

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have a few experiences you're going to
be sharing with us. Would you like

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to start at the beginning please,
sir? Hey, thank you Nick.

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So, Yeah, my name,
I'm Indy Riggs. I live in northern

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California, grew up here here,
you know, my entire life, and

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I have a not really a traditional
you know, UFO type story. So

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my story, I guess really started
well, we'll start at the beginning with

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it. Yeah, So, twenty
nineteen, my father passed away. He

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was seventy one. Little you know, he lived a good long life.

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Seventy one is a great age,
you know, but still too soon.

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It was unexpected and yeah, just
came out of nowhere. So, you

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know, after he passed away,
my wife and I actually we found him

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and he died right here on this
property that I live. On. It

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was his land, it was where
my boyhood home we now you know,

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live in his house been. But
what almost five years five years this month

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exactly actually, And so his passing
was a pretty big hit for me emotionally

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and obviously, as it would be
for anybody that loses their father or you

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know, loved one. His passing
was the third pretty close loss in our

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family in like this little short time
period, all unexpected and sudden, beginning

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with my sister. And my sister
left behind her her daughter, my niece,

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and she was a diabetic and she
kind of you know, gave up

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on life after her her mom,
my sister passed and she died about five

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years later from complications of diabetes.
And then my dad, you know,

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just a couple of years after her, So you know, three sudden,

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you know, traumatic deaths. So
his death left me in quite a state

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of grief. I would, you
know, literally wake up every morning after

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and think, Wow, was this
all a dream? Was like did I

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dream? This? Is he really
gone? And you know, reality would

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hit me upon waking No, this
was not a dream. This is reality.

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And I would literally and I'm not
embarrassed to say, and I'd cry

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pretty much every morning. And that
lasted a good solid like a couple months

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at least until one day or one
night, I finally had quite a bit

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of dreams. And in this dream, I was with my wife and my

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two children, and we were on
a vacation in San Francisco, crossing the

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road from our favorite bookstore, City
Lights Bookstore, and we were going to

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our favorite restaurant, which is a
Sicilian place. It's called Cafe Sports.

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And I'm looking back behind me to
make sure my kids made it through the

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crosswalk safely. And I see my
wife, and then I see my daughter,

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and then my son. But right
behind my son, I see my

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father and his hair is blown in
the wind, and he just he looks

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great. But it stops me in
my tracks and I just stop and look

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at him, and I'm like,
Dad, what the heck are you doing

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here? You just died? How
how are you here? And he just

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walks right up to me and he
puts both of his hands on my shoulders

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and he looks in me in my
eyes, and he smiles and he says,

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no, Indie, no, my
son, there is no death.

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There is no death. So I
repeat that to him, and he keeps

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smiling, and he just shakes his
head now and I'm like, there is

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no death. And then I wake
up right. And of course, you

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know, I'm a logical, rational
person, you know. I never had

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any kind of experiences, you know, or anything like that before. I

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never had a dream with my sister. I never had a dream with my

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niece. And then I have this
dream with my dad and I and I

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chalk it up to my brain trying
to make me feel better because of the

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grief. So I'm like, ah, it was my brain, you know,

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trying to make me feel better and
because of my grieving. And so

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I go about my morning, get
ready for the day, and go outside

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to work on this little Patrick garden
I had put in in this area on

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the property not far from where he
died that had gotten over run with BlackBerry

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brambles and had been a spot that
my father, myself, and my brother

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had cleared one time, but then
we let it grow back in with brambles.

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So I had cleared it again with
a friend just a few days prior,

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or a couple of weeks prior actually, and had started cultivating it and

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planted a few fruit trees. And
that morning I went out to work on

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a row for strawberries. And so
when you plant strawberries, if you properly

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do it, you mound up a
nice long row which you would cover with

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like barrier cloth and then plant the
strawberries. And so I was mounding up

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this row and taking scoops of earth
and tossing it on the road to mound

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it up. And I'm reflecting back
on the first time I remember digging in

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the dirt. We had actually just
moved to California, and we've lived a

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lot a lot of places. We
had just moved to California. I was

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maybe about five years old, and
I was digging in our backyard and I

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found this cobalt blue glass obviously glass
marble, and I picked it up,

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and like, the first thing I
think is, oh, Dad's favorite color

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is blue. And so I run
inside and I'm like, Dad, I

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found you a lucky blue marble.
And so he takes it. He's like,

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ah, it is a lucky marble, thank you, and he puts

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it in his key pocket and he
kept it in his entire life. I

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actually have it. I can see
it right over there right now, So

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I still have that marble. So
the moment I'm thinking of this marble and

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that and that memory. I take
my next scoop of earth and I throw

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it on top of the mound for
the strawberries, and what lands on top

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a cobalt blue glass marble. So
I dropped my shovel, I pick up

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the marble and I raise it up
to the sky and I say, I

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get it, Dad, I get
it. There is no death. There

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is no death. And so now
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just the same. So after that
experience, and I remember that that event

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happened the very morning after I had
that dream where he told me there is

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no death, I started having more
dreams with my father, all sorts of

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different dreams were One of them was, you know, a dream where I

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was with my brother and you know, and I said something about Dad dying,

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and then all of a sudden,
you know, my dad appears in

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the dream and he says, Indy, I told you there is no death.

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Ah, that's right, there is
no death, okay. And then

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he like disappears from the dream and
I'm back there with with just me and

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my brother, and I said it
again, I'm like, ah, like

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when Dad was alive, before he
died. You know, we were like

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talking, we were like trying to
defend this village and build fortifications. And

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I'm like, Dad had the fortifications
like this before he died. And then

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boom, he popped in the dream
again. He's like, dude, I

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just told you there is no death. And I'm like oh, and I

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snapped too, in like a lucid
state, and I realized I'm in a

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dream, like oh, this is
a dream. And I'm like, oh,

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Dad, that's right, okay,
yes, there is no death.

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I know, I know. I
guess I just miss you. I just

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miss your hugs. He gave really
good hugs and so he slapped his chest

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and he looks at me. He's
like, dude, I'm right here,

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give me a hug. And I'm
like, wait what I could give him

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a hug in my dream. And
so we embraced and it was, you

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know, the realist hug I've ever
had. And you know, so that

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was another dream. There was there
was another dream where you know, I'm

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riding with him in the car and
we're just driving. I don't know where

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we're going and we're just riding along. The radio is on, and then

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and then I realized you're in a
dream with Dad. And I had told

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myself because I had had other ones. I'm like, if I if I

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come to a lucid state again with
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really him, ask him something like
important, ask him like you know,

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there's all sorts of questions you wanted
to ask, I mean before he that

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you thought of after he died.
Pick one of those. And so I

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start spouting off I came to a
lucid state and I'm like, ah,

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I'm in a dream right in the
car. He's like, yeah, I

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don't have much time, Indy.
And I'm like okay. And that's I'm

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like saying all these questions and I'm
like, oh, dude, ask him

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something deep, Indy, Like ask
him something real, like good. And

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so I'm like, Dad, what
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the meaning to all this? And
he just looks over at me and he

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smiles and he says, well,
Indy, what do you want the meaning

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of life to be? Kind of
like a mic drop moment, like what

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do you want the meaning of life
to be? That's the meaning of life

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to you? And so these dreams
continue. Now this one is where it

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gets a little strange. So I'm
living in his home now, and I

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had a dream. I'm in the
bedroom, my bedroom which was his,

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and I'm looking out the window and
I see coming from the north, like

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this triangular looking craft way up in
the sky, and it's blazing a trail

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towards me, and behind it it's
leaving this like rip in the clear blue

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sky, and the rip is lined
with fire, and through the rip,

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I could see like outer space,
you know, like stars and nebulas in

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the black space. And the whole
time, I can hear and I can

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feel this pulsing vibration. It sounded
like woo woom, and I could feel

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it like through my body all around
me, and I could hear it too,

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not only feel it, but hear
it as well. I'm just a

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steady pulsing vibration, and I'm just
bewildered. I'm like, what is going

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on here? And then suddenly I
see another ship coming from the south.

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And this ship is also triangular shape, but like gleaming white, and behind

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it is just a white beam of
light like as far as the eye can

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see, and it seems like it's
heading straight straight off to hit head off

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that other ship, and mind you, I'm still feeling this pulsing vibration and

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I'm thinking in my head like what
are they doing? Like what is going

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on? Here? Are they terriforming
the earth? This is like some sort

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of geo engineering operation, like all
these crazy thoughts, right, And They're

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just getting closer and closer, and
I'm like, oh, they're going to

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hit And then I look behind me
and right over my right shoulder it was

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my dad and I'm like, Dad, you're here? Is this real?

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And he just looks at me and
he nods his head and smiles yes,

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yes, And then I wake up
after that. Now, that dream,

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I don't know really what the relevance
was exactly with this, if it was

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just like a coincidence, or I
think there's something deeper with it. But

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that dream was on the autumnal equinox, so equal parts a day and night,

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twelve and twelve, right, Okay, So after that dream, start

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having, you know, a few
more like UFO dreams. One where there

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was a UFO that I live right
on the river and a craft came out

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of a cloud and shot to the
river and sucked up a bunch of water

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and then shot back in the cloud
all pretty rapid, like right, all

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this, you know, these dreams
after that, specifically these dreams with the

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craft, I started seeing some strange
whites in the sky. Okay, sure,

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like I know a satellite looks like, I know what an airplane looks

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like. I even downloaded, you
know, these apps to make sure eventually

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I download them. At first,
I didn't, you know, because I

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just didn't even think about it.
Again, I'd never touched the subject before,

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so it seemed like, you know, some of these would like respond

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to what I'm thinking. So the
first one I had seen, you know,

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it had kind of like passed me
overhead as I'm picking a salad out

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in the garden, and it was
like just getting like dark, and I'm

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like, what is that? It's
like did it just stop and go?

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would think, oh, it's going
fast and slow, and then it would

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go fast and slow. Okay,
So this started being a pretty calmon occurrence,

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and I've taken lots and lots.
I'd probably have like at least one

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hundred different videos, and my kids
would see him with me, and then

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I find only eventually downloaded those apps
like iss tracker, satellite tracker, and

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plane tracker apps just a cross reference. Nothing would ever show up on those

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apps. And these times I would
see them. So these lights they would

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not only they would just be like
a steady light. They would also like

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be the steady light that just and
then just increase greatly in brightness, like

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brilliantly bright, and then just diminish
and then just disappear. And so they

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don't have like satellites or craft or
anything do that. And I've also seen

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them where they'll go behind a tree
and then after they come back out,

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there's three of them, you know
together, right, And so all this

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culminated finally one night man and this
would have been like April twenty ninth of

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twenty twenty two, just about ten
pm. And this is something I reported

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to move on. It was that
intense for me. So my dog and

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I we go out every night.
I have a farm. I live on

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a farm, and I got you
know, nightly chores to do before I

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go to bed, like lock up
the chickens and deal with my green houses

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and shut and lock my gate out
on the road. So my dog was

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with me. I've got I've got
an Irish wolf found. He's freaking awesome.

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He's like my best friend. His
name is Barbus. And so Barbas

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and I we're going out to the
chicken coop, which is out front towards

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the gate. And as I'm going
to shut the chicken coop door, Barbus

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sneaks in there real quick, and
he likes chicken food, so he's like

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looking for chicken food eat. But
he's getting his paws ale muddy with the

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dirty with chicken poop, and so
I'm, you know, like Barbius,

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get out of there and get irritated
with him. There's not something to me.

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And finally get him out and you
know, muttering under my breath and

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shut the chicken coop door. And
him and I start walking back from the

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chicken coop back towards the house.
To get back there, we passed my

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father's shrine, and so I put
a shrine up, and I call it

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my father's shrine because I put it
in the place where we found his body,

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in the very spot he died.
So I'm passing his shrine. I'm

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still a little irritated with my dog, and you know, I just hear

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a voice in my head, you
know, whether it was his voice or

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or my voice. I hear the
voice in my head. It says,

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dude, calm down, it's not
that big of a deal. Take a

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deep breath, then chill out.
So I'm like, yeah, you're right,

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that's what I need to do.
And so I just stopped and I

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placed my hand on the shrine.
I close my eyes, I take a

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couple of deep breaths ah, and
then I opened my eyes up and I'm

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looking maybe forty five degrees in the
sky and I, you know, I

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immediately see a star I know well, Arcturists, which is in the epsilon

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Botus constellation. And it's a pretty
bright star. It's kind of got an

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orangish hue, and next to it, there's very little ways off there's an

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even even brighter and bigger body,
the less the old body, but more

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of like a whitish maybe whitish bluish
light. And I'm like, what is

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that what? I don't think that's
stupid. That's the wrong time for Jupiter.

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Jupiter is not there in the sky. Because I watched the sky quite

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often. Not only did I download
all those tracker apps, I also downloaded,

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you know, constellation apps. I'm
like, if I'm going to be

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watching the sky, I might as
well familiarize myself with the planets and stars

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and constant relations and moon and everything. So I reached for my phone in

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my back pocket and it's not there. So I'm like, ah, I

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left my phone inside the house.
And all of a sudden, at that

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moment when I realized I left my
phone inside, woom, I start feeling

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and hearing that same vibration from my
dream that I had on an automal equinox

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what like six months before. And
I can feel these pulsing waves washing over

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me and through me. I feel
it in my body, I feel it

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all around me. I hear this
sound, and it feels like the atmosphere

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just got extremely thick around me,
and like I was moving through water or

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jello. And I'm entrance and I
can't stop watching this thing and feeling this

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vibration. And I notice that with
each pulse of this vibration as it goes,

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the object in the sky starts flashing
this red light out of the top

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right of it. Okay, with
each pulse red light, red light.

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I don't know what to make of
it. I'm just bewildered. And again,

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like I said, I'm like entranced
and feel like I'm moving through thick

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thick water or thick thick air,
and the vibration just still just pulsating throughout

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my body, my entire being.
Suddenly, at some point in time,

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as I'm just staring at this not
able to get my eyes off of it,

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it starts shooting out these blue like
static electrical sparks from like the bottom

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left of it, where the light
was on the top the red light was

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on the top right, these sparks
were on the bottom left, and you

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could hear it. It sounded like
I don't know if you guys have ever

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heard a Tesla coil, but it's
kind of like a just a static electrical

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sound with the sparks, you know, like blue lightning looking sparks. And

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so at this point I'm almost freaking
out. I start to lose my vision,

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so like around the edges of my
vision, it just starts to getting

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black and like closing in and closing
in and until I just have a tunnel

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of vision left, and I just
think in my head, Indy, dude,

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you're about to pass out. You're
about to faint. And I've never

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fainted before. I've gotten close one
time when I got bit by a dog

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and I was like spurting blood because
of blood loss, but it was the

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same feeling. And my vision's just
closing and closing and closing in and then

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I hear this voice again in my
head, call your dog, Call your

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dog, and so I'm like,
yeah, call my dog. And so

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I finally break a eye contact with
this object and I look around and I

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can't see my dog, and I'm
I'm actually a good one hundred and fifty

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to two hundred feet away from my
father's shrine where I started seeing this object,

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and that was where my dog was. Still he's at my shrine,

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about one hundred and fifty to two
hundred feet away, just looking at me,

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like frozen in place, like a
pointer dog. And he's an Irish

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wolfhound, right, He's a massive
sized dog and he's just staring at me.

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I'm not moving and I see him
and I yelled, barbous, barberus,

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come and he breaks his stance and
bolts towards me, and he gets

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to me quick and as soon as
I placed my hand on him, my

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tonal vision, my vision cleared,
the blackness went away and I no longer

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felt fear. The fear completely left
me, and I was just left with

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amazement, like, holy smoke,
this really just happened. This is happening.

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This is happening now, And I
could still hear the sparks. So

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I look back up and it's still
sparking. And now it's starting to grow

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bigger, this ball a light getting
more like oblong, until it just splits

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in two, like a cell performing
mitosis. And there are two orbs there,

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now, two lights, and they
just hovered, were hovering right above

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my head. So I had moved
closer to them somehow, maybe unconsciously.

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I don't know what happened during that
pulsing vibration time, but they were now

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right above my head, both of
these orbs. And again I'm at this

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time, I'm just amazed and like
I can't in awe of what's happening.

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And they're hovering above me, and
then one just slowly starts to float off

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to the south and one starts to
fly off to the north. Okay,

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the one to the south started going
faster, the northern one was going a

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little bit slower. And as I'm
seeing the one to the south go faster,

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it's getting close to a mountain range, and I think in my head,

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wow, this thing's about to disappear, and then it all of a

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sudden does disappear and then reappear right
above my head again, and then it

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starts following the path of the northerly
object. Okay, so at this point,

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I'm like, oh, man,
I need to run inside and get

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my family out here, because I
try to grab them anytime I see something,

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and so I'm just hoping I could
get them out. But by the

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time I got inside and some good
ways off, you know, to run

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all the way back to the house, you know, again it's on a

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piece of property, and I get
the family out, but by the time

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they come out, you know,
it's gone. So you know, I

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don't know what really happened with that, with that night or what those objects

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were telling me, but it was
pretty reminiscent kind of of that dream.

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Not only did I feel that same
vibrating pulse all through my body and all

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around me, the very same one
from the dream, but it was sort

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of representative, I think in a
way, like how the two ships in

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the dream were like coming together,
and in this one they in the real

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life episode that I just experienced.
They came apart and flew in those same

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directions. So what that I guess
represents to me is two halves you know

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that make a whole. There's a
whole. You know. You can get

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into all the sources of these,
like spiritual principles and universal laws, you

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know, polarities positive and negative,
night and dark, male and female,

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and again with the dream of being
on like the autumnal equinox. There's something

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there, and there's something there in
connection with my father's passing and with him

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telling me there is no death.
You know, I truly believe that there

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is something within us as human beings, that that does not die, that

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goes on to somewhere else, and
that has some connection with, perhaps not

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all the phenomena people deal with,
Like I would never try to discredit somebody

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in their experiences, but I do
believe that there is part of the phenomena

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at least that is connected to our
consciousness, and that is connected perhaps even

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to what happens when we die.
Whether these are an interdimensional thing, an

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energetic thing, just something that obviously
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like a lot to consider there.
There's things like the human being can only

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see i think point zero three of
the entire light spectrum. So that just

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lets you know there's there's a world
around us that's always always been there and

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always is there. It's just we
can't see it. And so what types

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of things can open our eyes to
that, you know, are maybe catalytic

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experiences, you know, like grief
trauma, things along those lines, things

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that happen in the dream state,
and just touching on that as well,

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I wasn't the only one in my
household that was having these dreams, you

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know, My wife immediately started having
dreams, and my father as well,

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my two children as they also started
having dreams. With my dad you know,

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and he was. He was a
pretty spiritual not religious, but a

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spiritual person and somebody of just amazing
character and integrity too, like his honor

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was impeccable. So all these experiences
together that we've all had and just how

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they coincided with my father's passing,
there's a story there to be told,

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and in my opinion, it's a
story of hope. It's a story of

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substance, and that can you know, that can help them guide people either

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through their own journeys of grief or
even through this. I've learned of folks

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like Jacques Vallet, Diana Posalka.
These are people who who I looked to

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when I'm exploring the phenomenon because it
resonates with my own personal experience. Again

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not to like negate or dispute anybody
else's experiences with actual like physical craft or

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beings. You know, like that
just wasn't my experience. So I look

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for sources that resonate with me.
And so yeah, that's, in a

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nutshell, that's my experience. And
you know, these dreams and you know,

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these these whites, you know,
I still see to this day,

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and you know the reason I think
it has compelled me to. That's why

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I'm here speaking about it. You
know, I do believe that this message

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was something not for me to hold
on to and just keep to myself,

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but to share it. And yes, it was difficult. Was difficult to

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come to the conclusion to come out
in the open and publicly talk about it,

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because I learned that there are people
out there that they want to discredit

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you, and they want to make
people look like a fool, and they

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want people to think this phenomenon is
something that it may not be. They

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want people to think that it's a
threat. They want to maybe militarize it

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in some way and not even address
the spiritual aspect that could be happening with

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a lot of folks and their experiences, a lot of people like myself.

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And that's why, you know,
I've felt the courage. I've gotten the

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courage from other folks that I look
up to, look extremely like Christopher Bledsoe

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and his experience, the experience he's
had and shared with his family, and

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I'm really happy that he has found, you know, a way to share

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his message where people can't can no
longer discredit him. And that's given me

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the courage to come forward and speak
about this. Because I'm a public person,

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I'm active in my community. I'm
not afraid to stand up and use

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my voice. But I feel supported
and loved by my community, and I

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know that even if stuff does come
out you know about this, I will

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all continue to have that love and
support. And as much as I've started

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to share this individually with people,
I've gotten such a good reaction from them,

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00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:43.519
and that's also given me courage,
and it's encouraged me to continue on

410
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:49.079
that path and talk with folks like
you, Nick, and anybody willing to

411
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:54.920
listen. That constance is not there
to make a mockery of what people have

412
00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:01.320
gone through. And most of all, the spiritual kind of connected aspect of

413
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:06.320
it all. I have like no
doubt at all that this is all all

414
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:12.599
connected consciousness, life, death,
the afterlife, what happens when we die,

415
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:19.320
and this phenomenon, without a doubt, all connected. Again, why

416
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:23.119
is this happening to me? Perhaps
you know? Yes, I had this

417
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:30.320
catalytic moment dealing with grief and trauma
from my father his passing and then the

418
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:37.000
death that preceded those my sister and
niece. Right but after this had all

419
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:43.320
started happening that I started reflecting more
on my past history and some of my

420
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:51.440
earliest memories, and one of those
was a memory where gosh it was again,

421
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.480
I was probably about five years old. But the similar time frame is

422
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:59.199
when I found that first blue marble, which I actually just put that together

423
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:05.280
right now. Huh. So around
the same time frame, my dad had

424
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.559
taken my brother and I to a
river up here in Trinity River. Its

425
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:14.719
pretty wild river, it's kind of
dangerous. Neither one of us knew how

426
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:19.000
to swim, my brother and I, and he's hanging out with his friends.

427
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.320
His friends came along. He's on
the river bar bank, and my

428
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:27.599
brother and I are playing around in
the water, and I get caught in

429
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.320
a current and I get swept down
river and up against the rock and then

430
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.239
sucked under the rock, right,
and so I'm under the rock, sucked

431
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:45.039
down under there, thinking I don't
know how to swim, I might die,

432
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:52.159
and trying to picture where my dad
is, and I could actually seem

433
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:58.639
like I had what sounds like maybe
an out of body experience right where I

434
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:04.239
was able to leave my body see
myself under the rock and see my dad

435
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.360
on the river bank hanging out with
his friends. I don't know if they're

436
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:12.440
smoking, drinking a beer or something
like that, you know, And I'm

437
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.320
just thinking in my head, Dad, come and save me, Come and

438
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:22.480
save me, right. And then
I flash back and I see my mom

439
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:28.800
and my sisters who were in Chicago
at the time, and they hop on

440
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:34.800
a plane and they fly all the
way back home for my funeral because I

441
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:39.679
died. And they're walking inside the
house just crying their eyes out. Indie

442
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.920
died. Indy died, right,
And I'm just like, no, that

443
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:49.480
can't happen. And I hear I
just get this, whether it's a voice

444
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.920
I heard or I just got the
gumptions and the like, start climbing up

445
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:57.679
that rock. Climb, grab a
hold, and climb up the rock.

446
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:00.960
So I'm stuck under this rock and
I just reach up and I find a

447
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:07.519
handle hold, and I just start
pulling myself up. Handle hold foothold,

448
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:12.079
handle hold, foothold, And finally
I break the surface, gasping for air,

449
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.519
and I claw my way up to
the top of the rock where I

450
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.719
can get out of the water.
And as I do, I look back

451
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.800
and my Dad's swimming towards me,
and he just says, ah, Indy,

452
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:28.679
I knew you had it so that
day as well, like I found

453
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:34.599
this gigantic pine cone, and I've
kept that gigantic pine cone with me like

454
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.400
my whole entire life. It's it's
like the only thing. I'm forty two

455
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.400
now, so that was thirty seven
years ago. It's like my oldest possession.

456
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:46.119
You know, we had a lot
of crazy trauma and as children,

457
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.960
my dad was pretty well put together, but my mom at that time was

458
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.559
not. So you know, we
we've lost a lot, like every possession

459
00:39:54.639 --> 00:40:00.679
we had through you know, really
crappy circumstances. But I've made andage somehow

460
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.599
to keep a hold of this this
pine cone, and it now just it

461
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.400
sits on like my table just for
me where I can just look at it

462
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:13.239
and remind myself of that that event, and just there's so much representation in

463
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.880
the pine cone as well, and
you can research that all day long,

464
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:22.360
whether it's tied with Catholicism and the
Pope or ancient Egypt, and and really

465
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:28.639
that's what's we're I haven't really gone
down like these UFO rabbit holes with this.

466
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:32.719
These experiences have led me down.
It's like the spiritual rabbit hole I

467
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:39.800
guess and has led me to principles
hermeticism and gnosticism. Somebody, you know,

468
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:45.800
all these these concepts that are in
these different religions or belief systems that

469
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:51.920
tell the same story. And that's
a story I believe that I was being

470
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.960
told by my father and by these
experiences with these lights that I had,

471
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:04.440
and especially that night out there at
my father's shrine. So my story in

472
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:09.199
a nutshell, I would just to
give any like parting words or endian words

473
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:15.599
about it, I would just say
that, you know, anybody that interested

474
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:22.039
in this sort of a thing,
or we're subject, or we're trying to

475
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:27.679
figure out what more is there to
life? You know, research these things,

476
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:35.039
research gnoscissism and hermeticism, and look
for that common thread that has been

477
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:42.719
woven through all religion and belief systems
and culture. And that type of knowledge

478
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.840
is something that just isn't taught.
And I'm not sure why. I'm not

479
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:53.079
sure if it's because of how spirituality
is turned into religious belief systems, or

480
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:59.239
it's really secular. It doesn't necessarily
have to be that way, but it

481
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.920
is. You know, in my
mind, without a doubt, my experience

482
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:07.639
is at least and experiences of others
like again, like the fellow Christopher blood

483
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:14.280
Cell like there is spiritual, spiritual
aspect to this phenomenon, at least for

484
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:21.039
a good portion of people that have
experienced things like this, And whether that's

485
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:25.320
things in the dream state or things
that you're seeing in the actual physical world,

486
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.480
there is something there and it should
be looked at and not disregarded.

487
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.199
So when you have these dreams of
your loved ones, or when you have

488
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:43.960
these synchronicities in your life that you
just can't ignore things that can't be explained

489
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:50.079
with science. Really, there's some
things aren't meant to be explained. Maybe

490
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:54.800
we aren't supposed to know the whole
picture. There's some different quotes that talk

491
00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:00.559
about what is a God? What
is God? When you can explore or

492
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:05.559
what is the tal that can be
explained, you can't explain it. There's

493
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.480
a greatness there that really is unexplainable, and that's part of the beauty of

494
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:15.920
it. I think the most important
thing is is just knowing that there is

495
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:21.920
a connection between not just life and
death and that, but there's a connection

496
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.760
between all of us, between you
and me, there's an energy that runs

497
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:30.280
through us all and yes, that
could somewhat be. They're starting to explore.

498
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:35.360
Actually, you know, these sort
of subjects with quantum entanglement and the

499
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:42.079
quantum field, the feeling of field
consciousness being connected to everything or somebody,

500
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:47.519
and narcissism. It's gnosis. There
is this thread not only that's woven through

501
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:53.280
culture, but it's woven through spirituality, and it's woven through each one of

502
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:58.880
us, connecting us, connecting each
one of us together. And the sooner

503
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.920
that we can figure that out as
a species, as humanity, the sooner

504
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:08.519
we can free ourselves from the confines
that and the restrictions that have been put

505
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:14.599
upon us by maybe the powers that
be, horses that are out of our

506
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.719
control yet want control. And this
is the key out. This is the

507
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.159
key. So I'll leave you with
that. Look for your key. That's

508
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:28.239
wonderful. Indeed, you know,
the trauma of grief is something that we

509
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:32.800
all have to go through sooner or
later. And I'm a firm believer in

510
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.239
when it comes to the aft life, when our loved ones do pass,

511
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.840
they do keep an eye and actually
do come back. They do prompt us

512
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.719
sometimes put us on the right path
and in a certain direction. Do you

513
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:51.800
think that these visits in your dreams
helped you with the grief you're going through

514
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:57.280
because you're evidently very close to your
father. Oh oh yes, and absolutely

515
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:02.880
it definitely helped me. When I
found that marble that next morning, I

516
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:08.960
stopped waking up every day and crying. I firmly then believed that there is

517
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:16.000
no death. You know, there
is no death. So when having those

518
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:23.440
dreams and having those visits and then
having like real world physical validation to accompany

519
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:28.400
it, it convinced me, and
it made me a believer in something that

520
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:34.599
I had never really tried to put
much thought into because it scared me.

521
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.559
I had never wanted to think about
it. And the fact that you know,

522
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:44.039
I would wake up every day crying
in grief and that that was all

523
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:52.599
just dashed away by these visits and
by physical validation, it absolutely yes,

524
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.840
helped me immensely to my grief.
And that is another thing. I've told

525
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:04.679
a few people of this, and
I've had some, if not all,

526
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.920
of them, tell me and that
they had similar experiences when they had a

527
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:14.119
loved one past too, where they'd
come through a dream and they just dismissed

528
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.599
it. And these are like pretty
conservative folks, some of them, at

529
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:23.039
least that have told me this and
my story. Just telling them that it

530
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:28.519
gave them pause and they thought,
maybe there is something more to my own

531
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.519
experience that I had. Maybe then
that was my mother or father, or

532
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.440
maybe that was my son and daughter
that actually came to me in my dream

533
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:43.000
and to tell me the same thing. There is no death. There is

534
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:46.000
no death, and I'm always here
with you. So yes, I absolutely

535
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:51.880
do think so. Nick. My
mother last year she had she got this

536
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.280
watch, and she's had this watch
for years and she's always misplacing stuff.

537
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:59.559
She's at the age now where she
forgets where everything is. She had lost

538
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:00.960
this watch. You've got a good
couple of weeks, I think it was.

539
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:05.760
And she was telling me, you
know, she had this dream and

540
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:10.039
a grandparent had come to her in
a night and told her exactly where the

541
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:14.920
watch was. And the next day, you know, she went to look

542
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:19.880
in that location and sure enough,
that's where it was. So yeah,

543
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.159
it's very easy for people to dismiss
things like this by saying I was just

544
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.519
a dream. Right, this person
was in your thoughts and they made it

545
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.400
into your dreams. I don't believe
that, you know, it's not something

546
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:36.400
I've ever really subscribed to. When
someone passes, people do want to sign

547
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:40.639
that they're still around, and I
don't think they're always able to close doors

548
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:46.199
and knock on tables and move stuff
around. I think coming through dreams is

549
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:52.719
probably the easiest way. And I'm
sure either are hundreds not thousands of listeners

550
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.880
out there which have had these same
dreams where they've had a visit from a

551
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:01.920
loved one. So yeah, definitely, yeah, that's yep, absolutely,

552
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:06.000
And that's a really good point that
you just made. It's it's not that

553
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:10.239
easy for them to knock something over
on the table or you know, make

554
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:15.000
sounds just give you a sign.
But coming through that dream state, there's

555
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:21.880
something happening in our brains and there's
science that's behind that sol and that's the

556
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.400
easiest gateway, and that's the easiest
door for them to come through to tell

557
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:31.320
you, hey, we're still here, We're still connected. This connection does

558
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:37.599
not die. So absolutely, there
is one spiritual size of all this your

559
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:44.599
experiences after with the lights. This
wasn't something which began before you fell as

560
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:49.239
death. This all happened after,
yes, yep, correct, it all

561
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.519
happened here. Yeah, And that
was you know, again like at first

562
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:59.239
the dreams with him, and then
dreams with him and these ships in the

563
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:04.000
sky and me just looking behind my
shoulder and saying, is it real?

564
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.079
Dad? Nod just said yes and
smiles. And then that's when those these

565
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:15.239
lights and that contact initiated. Oh
yeah, And that brings me back to

566
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:20.000
something else that I had read in
a Chris Bledsoe's book, that book UFO

567
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:24.840
God, when he was talking to
that NASA scientist I think his name was

568
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.400
Hal and he had asked him,
oh wait, oh wait, maybe this

569
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:31.480
was from a podcast he was in. It might not be in his book.

570
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:36.199
So he had asked this guy,
He's like, what do you think

571
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.320
this is? What do you think
the lights are? And the scientists from

572
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:45.119
NASA like high high level, like
top secret sort of dude. You know,

573
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.079
Chris, I think it's your family. I think it's your family that

574
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:54.199
have passed on, So there is
some sort of absolute connection with you know.

575
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.320
Again, like I'm not going to
try to discredit anybody that says,

576
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:01.800
you know, they saw a physical
craft or were abducted and brought onto a

577
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:05.960
craft at all. You know,
I believe I believe those people. I

578
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:12.239
believe people had experiences like that,
that's what they have. But I also

579
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:17.960
one hundred percent know that there is
these these lights that some people see.

580
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.280
And Chris Bledsoe like he films the
stuff all the time too and posts it.

581
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:27.079
I don't ever, I don't ever
post mine, just because I've always

582
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:31.159
been scared of like ridicule or criticism. But I know for sure that there

583
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:40.320
is a connection as well, not
only because of how it coincided with the

584
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.079
dreams after I started having these dreams
with my dad and that experience out there

585
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:51.280
at his shrine where I found his
body, where I had those that intense,

586
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:58.159
a crazy experience, but there's like
some psychological consciousness connection because there have

587
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.480
been other people I've talked to as
well that have said, you know,

588
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:05.840
I got this sudden urge to just
go outside and look at the sky,

589
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:10.440
and then there is this light that
I cannot explain, And so that tells

590
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:17.559
me that there is a connection between
a person's consciousness and whatever that phenomena that

591
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.360
light is. So that's where I
think, you know, this isn't just

592
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:24.639
a story about me and my dreams
and these lights, but it's just a

593
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:29.199
lot of people have had, yeah, not just dreams with their loved ones,

594
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.679
but then these experiences with lights in
the sky that they can't really explain

595
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.920
and that they've felt some sort of
connection to you know what I mean,

596
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.400
there is Yeah, there is one
hundred percent connection. And this is one

597
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.840
of the reasons why I have the
subjects I do on this podcast is because

598
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:51.960
I do think it's they're all interwoven
in one way or another, because there

599
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.920
are so many different connections and overlaps
that we see. Yeah, and a

600
00:51:55.960 --> 00:52:01.559
lot of people are saying these lights
in boxes. Every week is full of

601
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:08.239
people telling me what they're seeing that's
amazing and yeah, I totally totally believe

602
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:14.199
that. Yeah, that's actually heartening
to hear. And it seems like do

603
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:17.719
you think, you know, this
is something that might be like increasing right

604
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.559
now, or do you think that
this is something that always been but we

605
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.679
just started noticing it, or do
you actually think that there is like an

606
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:31.960
increase in an uptick in people having
these these experiences or connections, which is

607
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:36.679
like people have always had these experiences. I think a lot of it.

608
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:42.360
More people that are definitely taking notes
and more are stopping and thinking, well,

609
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.039
there's definitely something in this. There's
definitely something in this subject, even

610
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.320
though to a degree, you know, there is still ridicule with the subject,

611
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.480
but that's changing. That is changing
so much now. So many people

612
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:58.559
are now coming and listening that they
wouldn't have listened before. People are noticing

613
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.280
more, starting to think that,
yeah, we are all connected. There

614
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:07.039
there's more things in life that we
don't understand, and this is something we

615
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.559
should be looking at. Yeah.
Yeah, that's that's where my mind is

616
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:13.679
going with it too. I think
this is something that's always been there,

617
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.400
but people are just starting to take
more notice and they're starting to note it

618
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:21.400
and pay attention more and again,
like you said, this is this is

619
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:25.599
coming out more, becoming more accepted
that these things happen, and it's getting

620
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.760
out more in the mainstream, which
which is causing you know, people to

621
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:35.320
like, huh, come to your
show and listen and then look up at

622
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.920
the sky and see what you see. You know, when it comes to

623
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:42.960
UFOs and all that stretches right back
in our past. Yeah, it's easy

624
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:46.599
to look at as being something that
that's physical, but the data doesn't suggest

625
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:51.039
that the physical side of it that
you know, the old nuts and boats.

626
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:54.360
It's easier for people to absorb,
and the conscious side of it is

627
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.480
a little bit more difficult. There
is so much of this science we do

628
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:00.920
not understand. Yeah, you hit
the nail on the head right there with

629
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:05.199
that one. You know. Yeah, it's just simply so much we don't

630
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:08.360
know. So you have to look
at the subject with an extremely open mind

631
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:14.639
just about anything as possible. Yeah, no, you're you're absolutely right.

632
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:19.719
And yeah, it really does make
me wonder sometimes because you know, getting

633
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:25.440
involved with like looking into people like
Jacques Vallet and Diana Pasalka, and just

634
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:32.320
like Jacques Vallet is particularly he has
all these books on angels and fallen angels,

635
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:38.719
and it makes you wonder where the
root of those sorts of police systems

636
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:46.079
began. Was it these sort of
sightings and interactions with these ethereal spiritual connections

637
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:51.000
with these lights. That is a
way for people to be able to,

638
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:55.280
I guess, wrap their mind around
it and kind of explain it through like

639
00:54:55.360 --> 00:55:00.800
a religious sort of context. And
again, like they didn't say that they

640
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:06.960
were craft back then, nothing,
both they said that they were like human

641
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:12.159
beingish figures angels, you know,
and that was maybe an easier way for

642
00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:17.159
people to fathom. That's the phenomena. So yeah, there's so much to

643
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:22.440
unpack with this whole subject. Sometimes
I could just get I can really get

644
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:28.480
lost in it. It's so deep
and you're still seeing these lights. Yeah

645
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:35.239
yeah, I just saw one,
probably about you know, a week ago.

646
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:38.400
Maybe it's been it rains a lot
here, so our weather during the

647
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:44.440
winter it's like almost constantly raining or
foggy and cloudy every night. But any

648
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.039
night I do have clear night,
I go out because I still do you

649
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:51.760
know, my little farm chores every
night, and whether it's raining or not.

650
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.159
And I've seen them so much,
it's not that big of a deal,

651
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:58.639
Like I don't, oh, it's
clear night, I'm going to go

652
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:01.400
sit outside for two three hours.
I think that's you know what Chris bloodsoe,

653
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:06.719
He'll go out and just sit and
watch. I've had this understanding with

654
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:10.360
it and said like, hey,
I know you're real. I know there's

655
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.920
no death, Like you don't need
to prove yourself to me, And that's

656
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.239
really do how I feel like at
this point, there's not much more you

657
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:21.639
need to show me to convince me. But every once in a while I

658
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.320
will the show I was telling you, I went and did starting to get

659
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:29.960
a bad feeling about it, and
which maybe may may have been something I

660
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.639
should have listened to. But things
happen for a reason, right, So

661
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:36.840
I had gone outside because it was
a clear night, and I'm like,

662
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.960
hey, you know, I haven't
I haven't seen EU lights here since late

663
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.000
December. Was the last really good
one I saw. And I'm like,

664
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.440
if I'm not supposed to be doing
the show or if i am, you

665
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.079
know, I'm not sure what to
do, but if you if I am,

666
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.880
just give me a sign. And
then literally within like a minute,

667
00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:00.760
one appeared over my head and it
took about three and a half minutes to

668
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:07.199
go across the whole sky and then
below too, so it would it was

669
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:12.079
passing. At one point it passed
under the clouds because I could see like

670
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:16.840
the Ple Eightes constellation just barely could
see it through through a cloud, and

671
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:22.840
I could see this thing was underneath, just super bright. And then so

672
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.280
after that had gone away, Okay, well that was a sign, and

673
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:29.760
I'm looking up at the sky and
again right where I'm looking, then I

674
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:32.440
see what I must have been a
meteorite right in front of my face,

675
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:37.599
just streak across the sky, and
I'm like, Okay, well that's another

676
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:40.840
sign. And then I turned to
the right and I'm looking at Jupiter,

677
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:45.280
which is, you know, really
bright this time of year here, and

678
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:50.119
right under it there was just this. And this is something I see often,

679
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:52.400
and my wife has seen it,
my children have seen it with me,

680
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.440
because in the summertime we will go
out and lay out and just watch

681
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:59.920
and we see this. We see
stuff all the time. It's amazing what

682
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.039
you see when you just look.
And so right under Jupiter, I'm looking,

683
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.079
I'm looking out to my right,
and then I just see this brilliant

684
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:15.079
flash of bursts of light, just
like this blast of light, like a

685
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.559
pulsing, a pulse of light.
And I don't know what that is.

686
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:23.519
That's something I don't I know.
Chris Blitzo said he does see those two.

687
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:30.440
So but otherwise I haven't seen anything
else science or technology wise that can

688
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.639
explain that, you know, at
all. And so yeah, that was

689
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.360
just gosh, what day today.
That was probably a week ago that I

690
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.280
saw that, that that happened,
and I took that, took a video

691
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:45.440
of the the light that I saw
traveling across the sky, the one that

692
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:51.400
first appeared. So yeah, I'm
still seeing still seeing these it's fun and

693
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:58.280
I do I do think that there's
some a connection with human consciousness and just

694
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.800
being open to it. I think
the more or you're open to it,

695
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:04.000
the more likely you're going to invite
it in. And so just like I

696
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:06.840
am, you know, when I
when I want to see it and I'm

697
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:13.079
asking these questions in my mind,
I feel like they give me answers and

698
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.920
they I'm guided in the direction.
And also just after you know, this

699
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:23.320
whole thing that started happening with me, so many amazing things have been happening

700
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:28.199
in my life. Like I told
you, I'm pretty involved in my community

701
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:34.360
now, I'm like this public person. And I had always my whole life,

702
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:37.559
I was so shy and just had
such a hard time with putting myself

703
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:43.760
out there. And I don't know
what changed in me, but something dramatic

704
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:47.920
has changed in me and it's and
it's for the better, and it's helped

705
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.159
me see, like, no,
Indie, you're actually you are a valued

706
00:59:53.519 --> 01:00:00.360
human being. You you have value
to give to the community, the the

707
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:04.719
planet. And I hope through people
like you, you know, being able

708
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:08.880
to just talk about this, I
hope I can give something to more people

709
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:15.039
and more people to even humanity,
you know, on a greater level.

710
01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:17.800
So yeah, it's still continuing.
I actually, and I will be honest,

711
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:22.920
though, I don't have as many
of the dreams with my father anymore,

712
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.519
and I'm not sure why that is. I do still have some,

713
01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:30.679
but they're not as often. But
what what I have had actually happened recently,

714
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:35.920
just in the last few weeks.
For the first time, I started

715
01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:37.920
having dreams with my sister. And
you'll get a trip out of this,

716
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:44.000
okay. So the first one I
had, maybe like three or four weeks

717
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.239
ago, I wrote about it in
my journal. I started journaling through all

718
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:50.559
this too, right, So I
wrote about this dream in my journal.

719
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:55.239
I was on some beach and for
some reason, I was this is where

720
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.800
my sister lives, right, and
then boom, my sister appears. Her

721
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:04.320
name. Her name is Chandra,
beautiful red hair, who's a beautiful,

722
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.159
beautiful lady. And I'm like,
ah, it is where Chandra lives.

723
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:12.079
And so we're just standing with each
other and we're walking around on her beach,

724
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:16.639
and then she leads me up a
hill. And on this hill there's

725
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:23.840
like this landing or flat area where
we can gaze up to a wide open

726
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:30.320
sky and the sky is just full
of stars, right, and then across

727
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:40.119
the sky starts flying this translucent bird, a massive translucent bird, and I'm

728
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:45.199
just wow, what kind of bird
is this? What is that bird?

729
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:51.000
And as it's getting closer, it
starts getting like, you know, rainbow

730
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.480
colored on its edges, and mind
you, it's translucent stone. You could

731
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:59.000
like see other stars through it.
And then it just took the color of

732
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:02.400
a peacock, and I'm like,
it's a peacock, right, And you

733
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:06.480
know, so that was the dream. And so I wake up the next

734
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:09.800
day. It was a nice day, those one of the rare clear days

735
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:15.039
we've had in this last month.
And so that night, I did,

736
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:19.320
you know, a little star watching, right, And I have my Constellation

737
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:22.920
app, and you know, I'm
not expecting to see like any forbs or

738
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:28.559
lights or anything. I'm just checking
out the stars, right, and the

739
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:32.199
planets and checking you know, where
everything's lined up bad, And I really

740
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:38.480
enjoy being like oriented with the stars, understanding how they travel across the sky

741
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:45.639
and change throughout the seasons and year. Right. Okay, So I shut

742
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:47.480
down the app, and you know, I make dinner every night with my

743
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:50.599
family, so I'm like, okay, I got to get in to make

744
01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:54.960
dinner. I get in start making
dinner, and I've got dinner on.

745
01:02:55.119 --> 01:03:00.559
And I sit down on the couch
next to my son and and I pulled

746
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:05.480
my phone out and I open it
up, and I had forgotten that I

747
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:08.079
had left that constellation map up.
And so I'm sitting on the couch with

748
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:13.519
my phone pointing down on the ground, and so it opens up, and

749
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:16.239
with the constellation map looking straight down
on the other side of the Earth.

750
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:23.320
And what is it opened up to. It's opened up to. The first

751
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:28.880
word I see is peacock, and
the second one I see is Indus.

752
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:34.679
I Indus, and that Indus means
the same thing my name means India,

753
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:40.159
which is of India. And then
peacock. So I'm like, okay,

754
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:45.119
that's one of those synchronicities, right
at least in my mind, that was.

755
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:46.920
I'm like, okay, if I
just had that dream last night and

756
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:52.480
now I'm seeing peacock and my name
basically right there on the star map when

757
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:55.880
I just randomly open up, you
know, and I'm like, okay,

758
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:00.480
So that was my you know,
I felt like validation from my sister.

759
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:02.800
Finally, I got to have a
dream with her. So yeah, man,

760
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:06.760
it's still you know, it's a
crazy crazy line and a crazy,

761
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:11.840
crazy crazy universe. I love it. I love it though. Yeah,

762
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:16.480
coincidences and synchronous, it is absolutely
you know, we are all on our

763
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:21.840
path, Indi. Sometimes these experiences
they put us in a direction. In

764
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:25.639
your case, you're saying, you
know you're you're a different person than you

765
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:30.039
were, and the frequency of your
visits from your father in your dreams now

766
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:35.280
have slowly subsided a case of the
jobs done. Yeah, I'm sure your

767
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:40.760
account has touched and struck home with
a lot of people out there. And

768
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:45.280
definitely keep us updated and let us
know if anything happens in the future.

769
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:49.239
Okay, and thank you so much. Thank you so much. I'll definitely

770
01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:53.320
stay in contact with you. And
if you ever want to come see the

771
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:56.199
Redwood, please do, buddy,
I got a place for you guys to

772
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:59.880
say. Like I said, we
might just take you up on that.

773
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:02.239
Dude, that felt so good just
talking to you about that whole thing,

774
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:06.480
Nick, I really really appreciate you. That felt really good. Thank you,

775
01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:10.960
No problem, no problem, Indie, Indy, I really appreciate you

776
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:14.760
coming on sharing that for our listeners. Thank you thanks for having me Nick

777
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:17.840
again, I really appreciate you man. Keep in contact and we will speak

778
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.639
soon in di okay, and you
enjoy the rest of your day. Thank

779
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:24.320
you you too, I'll talk to
you soon. Okay. Take care brother.

780
01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:27.400
Bye for now, Take care bro
bye bye. That is all for

781
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:31.880
today. Keep updated and connected with
the show on x Facebook and Instagram.

782
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:35.360
And if you have an encounter that
you'd like to share on the podcast,

783
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:42.880
you can email me at UFO Chronicles
at gmail dot com, or you can

784
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:47.639
reach out to me via the contact
page on my website ufo Chronicles podcast dot

785
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:51.840
com. A big fan at indy
for sharing tonight, and thank you all

786
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:58.119
for listening. I will be back
next week. Till then, stay safe

787
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:00.760
and keep watching a sky. Goodbye.

