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Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,

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I'm forty. Go ahead, make
my day every single week. I

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put my freaking heart and soul into
this. I don't go out there and

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laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's
funny to me. I don't want to

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go out there and get embarrassed on
Monday night football. For everybody, I

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think this is the beginning of a
beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed

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from yesterday. Still the same person
I was yesterday, and I got the

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same thing for you that I had
yesterday. You know why I'm here.

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You play to win the game.
You don't play to just play it.

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That's a great thing about sports.
You play to win, and I don't

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care if you don't have any wins. Do you go play to win?

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When you start telling me it doesn't
matter to retire, get out for the

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Natas. That's right. A couple
of minutes past six o'clock and it is

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Dennis Fifthy and in Formatt Sheppard.
On this Thursday, Trent Bally is here

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and we're ready to get you going
on this day after where you have an

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All Star game on Tuesday and then
really nothing. I'd say nothing. But

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you know, there was NBA preseason, you had the w NBA going on.

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Those are the top things that were
going on in sports. But I

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can take you over to Scotland right
now and it is in progress, the

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Open Championship, the fourth major now
that they've moved the PGA a couple of

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years ago. It is underway.
Now I forget about that. I know

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it's really early in the morning that
they get it going over there, but

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it's five six hours in front of
us here on the East, well just

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Eastern Standard time. Bottom line is
is that they're out there justin. Thomas

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leads the Open right now, the
American for Under, a bunch of guys

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two back, including Adam Scott.
So you know, it's not very often

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if you're doing a morning show you're
cracking the lid at six am that you

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have something in progress. But there
it is. If this is the first

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time you've heard my voice, Hey, what's going on. I've filled in

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a few times for SHEP over the
last couple months. It's great to be

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here, and you know, I
am trying to stay I'm not a very

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good meditator, but in I've tried
to do it a little bit of a

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hallmarks that I always hear. Take
some of the guided meditations, and I

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say stay present, and I've usually
just blown that off. You know,

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for the first six months or year, I always blew that off. I'm

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like, I get being present.
I know what day it is, I

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know what time it is. But
I've evolved where I understand in sports talk,

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you know, you need to embrace
the day. You need to you

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know, what's out there for you
to talk about. And then we have

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a day like today and it's like, Okay, it's a tough day to

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stay present in sports, but we're
going to do that. And Annie,

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I had a coworker the other day. He asked me. He goes,

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hey, I'm just curious, what
do you guys talk about during this time?

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Like, you know what, that's
a good question. Well, I

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was poring over the schedules this morning, Trent. You know they I embraced

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the things that are happening. I
do. Like I I know it just

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sounds like an overstatement, but I
think I like football one hundred times better

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than I like everything else. And
I love sports. It's not like I

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just love football, but I love
football hundred times more than everything else,

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right, that should speak to how
much you actually love football. I think

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it does. You know, Lions
training camp. I've got a few friends

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that have had season tickets over the
years, and I talked to two of

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them yesterday. I was texting with
them. They are so fired up because

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I said, you know, I
was telling them, yeah, I'll be

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across Michigan and you know, here's
how you can listen and everything else.

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They're like, you better talk about
the Lions. I'm like, yeah,

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we'll be talking about the Lions.
And then both of them had told me

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their experience of trying to get training
camp tickets. They've got season tickets and

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I'm like, well that must have
been pretty easy, you know. You

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pop in there and they're like,
oh, there was a five thousand list.

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Wait I didn't get them. My
other friend ended up getting them.

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But the training camp is coming up
on the twenty seventh for the Lions.

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That's a Sunday. So what a
week from Sunday Lions training camp opens up.

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So it is if you're you just
can't wait, you know, and

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you're just thinking counting down the days, that is a day to at least

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look at. I mean, I
was looking at the first exhibition game,

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which is on August the eighth.
But's that tells you, you know,

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I've known in the past, I've
thought about it, you know, the

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hundred times more than everything else.
I actually hate preseason football, and yet

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that first preseason game, I'm there
every single time waiting and watching and you

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know, like, oh, I
guess this is great, and then by

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the first quarter I'm like, wow, man, I can't wait for the

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regular season. But it's at least
I like a you know, nice full

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course meal at a nice restaurant.
That's not exhibition football. It's not the

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appetizer. It's like when you go
and you sit down, it's not even

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bread. It's they get that little
little dish, sometimes a little brown dish

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and there's some some crackers in there. Yeah, maybe a like a stale

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pretzel. That's kind of exhibition football. But when you're real hungry, sometimes

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you do reach for the stale pretzel
and you eat it. And that's what

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we have coming up there. Now. I did try too. I was

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all geared up because I'm like telling
everybody, you know, hey, there's

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other things to do. They just
sit around twitter on your thumbs looking at

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schedules, waiting for football, And
so Sunday I wake up and I'm like,

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all right, Alcaraz, Joker,
I'm waiting for the Wimbledon Men's final.

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This is gonna be great, this
is gonna be epic. And I'm

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there and I'm ready to put three
hours in and take all this great tennis.

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And and then Alcaraz just takes Joker
and just mows him down and just

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you know, throws him out of
the stadium, and you know, it's

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quite as play. Now was great
for Alcaraz, but viewing wise, man,

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they barely had a chance to you
know, cut up to the Royal

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Box or anything. There was none
of that that was going on. But

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with the Tigers in the the All
Star break, they do get back to

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action tomorrow and a lot of the
talk, and coming up at six thirty

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five, I've Shep talked with the
Pope, John Paul Morosi, and we're

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gonna listen to a little bit of
what the Pope had to say about the

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Tigers. And I'm guessing that Shep
talked about schoobl. Now you might already

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be tired of Tik's schoobl Let's deal
him talk deal Schooble. But with how

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things work with the Major league calendar
and where the Tigers are sitting, the

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possibility of this, it's the top
story in Detroit sports. You want to

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tell me at the training camp a
week from Sunday, that's the top.

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You know, Pistons around Holland the
second threw down a jam in summer League,

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that's the okay, you know,
one of the red Wings that even

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go to Traverse City anymore. No, it's the it's the Tigers in schoolbul

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and if the Tigers would actually entertain, are they actually even listening? Is

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this is just all made up by
people like me and Trent, you know,

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just trying to get you, you
know, at least talking a little

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bit about the team. And you
know, we saw them in the All

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Star Game. You know. The
trading deadline's the end of the month.

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So as we said here, and
it is the eighteenth. Oh, we're

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thinking about two weeks. There's gonna
still be Trek Subal talk. I don't

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think it's gonna be every minute of
every day, but I think it's gonna

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abb and flow, and you know, the Tigers come out of the shoot

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the second half and I'll lose a
series, if fans might be like,

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I hope they do do it.
You know, they win, they say,

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hey, you know you can't do
this if you're getting close to five

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hundred. That's what fans do well, and that's what we all do.

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You know, like if the Tigers
would have got swept by the Dodgers instead

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of having these very entertaining games,
and you know, if some people at

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least looking at it, they're there, might have been a little bit more

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of the fans like, you know, go go ahead, go ahead,

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and you know, get rid of
them. But well, you know it's

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not I don't want to make it
so they could sound like they're just taking

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him in and setting him out of
his way for nothing. But you know,

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well, I'll give you my thoughts
on that, and in fact,

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at seven oh one, a blockbuster
for school Ball, I'll dive into that.

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I want to hear what John Paul
Morosie has to say. With SHEP,

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we will talk about a lot about
the Lions today. Dan Campbell,

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the head coach of the Lions.
He did a radio interview in a Texas

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station a few days ago and he
talked about maybe dialing back the aggressiveness.

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Do you believe him? I'll tell
you if I believe him. We'll get

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to that coming up in the seven
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it's great to be here on Axes
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fire you up this morning across Michigan. What's going on? Everybody set it's

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fifty it in for Matt Sheppard here
on Xes and Grows. Will take you

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to nine o'clock. You want to
hear some football, We got you set

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up for this segment. Little college
football. We'll look at coming up in

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the seven o'clock hour, we will
dive into the Lions and straight ahead you'll

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hear what John Paul Morosi has to
say about a potential trade with Tarik Schoobel

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and others on the Tigers if they
will make a deal, maybe a blockbuster

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for schoobl And then I will address
schoobl out of the gate seven oh one.

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So that is how the table is
set for you. You got just

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Thomas four under through eleven over at
Royal Troon in the open. And you

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know, as I think about college
football, I look and you start counting

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down the days and we're getting close
to you know, it's forty some odd

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days. They report and start practicing
a month before the first game, and

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the first I guess I call it
the real first Saturday week one. Week

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one is on August the thirty first, so it's pretty easy July the thirty

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first, if you're playing on that
Saturday, like Michigan, like Michigan State.

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Now CMU they're not playing Week zero, but they are playing on that

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Thursday, the twenty ninth, So
they'll start practicing on the July twenty ninth,

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and then Western is playing in Madison
against Wisconsin on Friday, so you'll

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have the thirtieth is when the Broncos
will get everything going. I do know,

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Trent, you're a big Michigan State
guy. For years I enjoyed Michigan

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State playing on the I was gonna
call it traditional Friday. But now they're

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playing on a Saturday. A little
bit of a wrinkle there. I don't

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like it. I like the traditional
let's let's get Michigan State going on Friday.

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And for years I've had a little
I've made the trip out to a

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ton of Michigan State friends they have. You know, they get that party

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going, summertime, barbecue, get
the college football season go. So I

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say all that, I don't like
it, but you know why, why

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did they move it. Do you
like it? That's kind of the big

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question with a lot of things these
days, but particularly college football, Like

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why there's no point now, Donna. Some typically a leave Friday for high

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school football, as most people are, but that wasn't a exception. That

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was an exception. It was like
the kickoff of the season for Sparti,

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A lot of fun. Always a
lot of times it's a night game,

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like late night, and it's an
all day party on campus and it's a

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great time. So I don't know
why they went away from that. Yeah,

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I don't either. I used to
think that, you know, football,

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that's the way it should be done. You have high school on Friday,

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college on Saturday, and the pros
on Sunday. Right, yeah,

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just this summer. And I don't
have the legislation in front of me,

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but there's a I don't know,
a nineteen sixty four TV Act that there's

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a window where the pros can't go
into I don't know if they can't go

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into Saturday, but they certainly can't
go into a Friday, and there's some

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kind of window in there. You
know. There was the thought all of

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these years that the NFL was just
being like well, hey, you know,

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hey, that's that's us looking out
for the sports fan or the kids,

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that we don't play on a Friday. But no, that's not the

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case. There's actually an act that
they can't do that. And I don't

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know if that that act applies to
college football, but I don't think it

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does because they they now annually have
Friday games. Of course you can,

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you know, spread them all over
the place. So and there's well we

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had Black Friday last year with the
NFL, and they're, well, we're

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gonna try doing that. Hey yeah, and they're gonna play on Christmas,

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and you know they And there was
the idea back when I was growing up

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Trent people love New Year's Day.
Is you would pull up and you would

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start at eleven am and you'd have
what used to be called the Outback Bowl

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or whatever it used to be called, and the Citra And but the point

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was is they played out of ten
eleven bowl games and you had the Rose

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Bowl that always started whatever four or
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But it was it was an all
day festive. And then they started

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spreading it out and people are like, I hate that. That's the taken

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away, and I thought the same
thing immediately, like no. But then

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the idea that you can actually watch
another game on another day and watching in

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its entirety is something like, h
wait a second, that's not so bad.

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Like, so Michigan State they own
that Friday in the state. Everybody

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you know is watching Michigan State.
Now, you know, you put them

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in there with the other games,
and you know, I like it myself

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where Michigan State plays in one window, Michigan plays in another window. But

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you don't always get that. Sometimes
they're playing at the same time. It's

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like when the Red Wings and Pistons
are going on in the winter. I

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like it when the teams are not
playing at the same day the same time,

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certainly not at the same time.
I like it when they play on

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you know, opposite days or not
the same days. Yeah, you want

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to watch both, right, you
do? You get that? And you

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you feel that with the NFL.
A lot of times you're going to the

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NFL and you get those eight nine
games on some day and then they start

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spreading them out. You know,
there's a Saturday. Now they're gonna you

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mentioned Black Friday, here's Christmas,
and that you know you will water it

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down. I mean, how many
games do you really need? How many

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can you really watch? And that
one o'clock window and if the Lions are

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playing and whatever your team is.
If if your team is playing and at

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one o'clock window, how many of
those other games you really watching? Look,

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I've got the red zone off,
you know, on one TV,

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off to the side, and I'll
have the Lions there and it's something to

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do when there's a break in the
action. And we know there's lots of

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those, so you know, it's
nice to have that. But I've said

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this before, I have a hard
time putting up and oh, they've got

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the YouTube, you know they'll put
they'll give you the four games where you're

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gonna look at all four of them, and yeah, I can see what's

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going on, but I like to
imburse myself in one game. I can

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do it, but there's it's a
little bit too much for me to watch

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four games. I can't you know, nine games. I can get a

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feel for what happens, but I
can't get it's not like one that could

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come out and I feel like I
can really if it's your team, if

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it's a team that you're covering or
your you love like the Detroit Lions,

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you know, that's what I'm talking
about. Well, Dennis, let me

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ask you this, then, do
you enjoy watching games at a sports bar

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where they have multiple games on They're
on separate TVs? Of course, but

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are you able to take that in
or are you still just kind of locked

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in on one game. I love
it. I have the ability to.

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You know, it takes a little
training if you used to just it's just

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like when you go to a game, you know, for I don't know,

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you know, the first twenty thirty
years of my life. You know,

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I just watch a game and it's
right at the fifty. You're used

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to the site lines and everything else, and then you're tuck to You go

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to a game and you're tucked into
the corner. You're like, this is

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weird. I don't I can't even
cover the action. So but you adjust,

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and Yeah, if I'm going to
a bar or restaurant, I'm able

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to watch a play, eat a
hot wing, you know, take a

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sip of my drink. Oh,
they go to commercial, let's check out,

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let's talk to something, you know, you know, I make it

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work. I've been able to make
it work. But the perfect setup for

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me if I'm home is one gigantic
TV on my game that I want to

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watch, and then I have a
little separate TV where I can go just

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you know, check it out.
Now. Sometimes that second TV, you

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know, you think you get the
great plan, and then you look over

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and then that game's at commercial.
Then you're like, wait a seconds.

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I have seen though. I've got
a friend named Bill, and I've never

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been to his house, so he's
just kind of just an acquaintance. But

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he took a picture of his setup
and he literally has I mean like he

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has the sports bar in his basement, but not only in his bad I

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mean he he's got four or five
TVs, six or five, six or

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seven computers that are off setup TVs. He's got a scroll, he's got

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his two phones, a burder maybe
over here, and I'm thinking, how

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is he watching? I mean it
looks cool and yeah, you know you're

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you're having a little party. You
know, Hey, look at Bill's house.

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Pretty sweet. Yeah, talk about
immersing yourself in the action. Maybe

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I can find bill old Bill set
up this morning and see if I can

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take that out. And it's an
amazing setup. But I'm thinking it'sory overload.

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There's a picture of Jeff Bill sitting
in a chair with all of the

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like the batman came around him,
and I'm thinking, and you know,

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I don't know. Bill doesn't seem
like a big gambler either, but he's

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just sitting there watching all these games. And he says Heaven. And I'm

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like, okay, Bill, you
know where are your friends at? Bill?

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All right? Not Bill Simonson.
This is Bill as I'll see if

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say this lightly, and I don't
say it just because he's on the other

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end of my line. I say
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at John Morosi and the Michigan and
Harvard Gret joins us here on Exes and

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Bros. Glad to have you,
my friend. Thanks to the time when

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I know you're busy and we appreciate
it very much. Hell of an All

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Star game last night. Awful uniforms, but in the state of Texas and

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the players really delivered it was a
fun watch, don't you think it was?

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Yeah, and then thanks for the
very kind of introduction. All the

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respects right back to you, my
friend they thanks for everything over the years

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and all the amazing guidance that you've
given me and your friendship that means the

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world number one first and foremost so. But yes, the All Star Game

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last night, I was pretty impressed
actually by the way the game unfolded.

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You're right, I would prefer to
see the old English d on the field

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as opposed to the Jerseys as we
saw them last night. But be that

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as it may. The big moments, Oh Tani Howard, we got to

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see Judge versus Keanes Jared Duran.
What an amazing performance for him and someone

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who I think has really inspired a
lot of people by talking about his journey

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with mental health as well. For
him to be the MVP very fitting in

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a beautiful moment for him and his
family. So this is I think,

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overall, Chef, a great midsommer
classic and a very beautiful way to begin

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the second half of the season.
Yeah, Paul Skeens was amazing. I

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really was hoping. I think,
like a lot of Tigers fans that Terrek

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Skubel was going to start the game, but look he comes in second.

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He really impresses. I don't want
to say it's he should have been,

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you know where he is right now
because he he had a good, strong

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finish a year ago. But what's
impressed you most about Terrek Skoubel and his

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maturation this year? Wow, Chef. I mean, he basically has in

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my estimation, as good of a
collection of pitches on the left side as

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we have seen in the very,
very long time. It is it is

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like a peak David Price. You
want to say, Cec Sabathia, And

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again we got to see Tererif do
it for longer before we put him in

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the category of what David has done
and Cec has done, and certainly Kershaw's

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on a way next level. But
just in terms of the stuff that he's

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got, the ability to execute pitches
and be consistent. I mean that to

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me is what what has separated Trek
from basically everybody else in the game this

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season, Chef, is that you
know, we saw him mature and come

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along. You did a great job
of describing a start for the early throughout

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his career, and you saw I
think the ability to make pitches, but

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now he's just making so many fewer
mistakes now during the course of an outing,

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where every pitch, it seems,
is perfectly executed. It's not just

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the stuff, but the commander where
it's located. That, to me is

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what stands out with him and just
I think the ability for him to withstand

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a high workload is really unique,
and that is something I think is very

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special in the game right now.
We don't see a lot of guys that

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do that. But he's got that
Andy Pettitt persona on the mound right now,

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and it's a lot of fun to
watch TV radio print. He does

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it all. He is John Paul
Morosi, not just in baseball, by

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the way, hockey as well.
You can follow him on x at John

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Morosi. You know the big question. Your good friend Tom Verducci, who

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is very good at what he does
as well, talked about how the Dodgers

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and the Orioles are trying to put
together a big package to go after pitching,

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and one would think Trek Scubel would
be directly in their crosshairs. It's

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easy to ask, would you trade
them? The harder question to answer is

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what do you need to get in
return, because I remind people that when

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Verlander went to Houston, Houston gave
them three of their top eleven prospects.

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Personally, I don't want prospects.
I think they need major league baseball ready.

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Guys, what's your overall take on
if and what Detroit should get should

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Trek Scuoble be on the market,
Well, Scheby, you're exactly right,

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and that's where the conversation is picking
up if you're going to move Schooble,

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And where the Tigers are in a
good position is they don't have to.

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I think the industry knows they don't
have to. It's not as though he's

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making a ton of money and that
they're under duress to move the contract.

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You can basically make the deal that
you want or just walk away, say

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hey, we'll catch up with you
in the offseason, or we'll catch up

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with you next year's trade deadline,
or maybe never, depending on how things

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play out. But you can be
choosing here. And if I'm the Tigers,

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and if I'm talking with the Dodgers, I would say, Hey,

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Gavin Stone, who's already in the
major leagues and is one of the Dodgers

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starting pitchers, right now. He's
got to be in the deal. And

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if they say no, say okay, we'll catch up later. I mean,

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this is where they're at. I
mean, you're if you are,

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if you're trading schoogle chef, I
fundamentally agree with you. If you're talking

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with the Orioles, say hey,
I got it. The name of Colden

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Cowser or Jackson Holiday or maybe even
Jordan Westberg, who by the way,

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was an All Star last night.
One of them has to be in the

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deal. And if they say that
that's crazy and that's asking too much,

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say okay, fine, we'll catch
up with you later on. I mean,

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I do think that Scott Harris and
the Tigers, they probably owe it

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to themselves the organization to explore this. I know that fans won't want to

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hear that, but I think they
have to at least go down that path.

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I mean, at the moment,
the Tigers do not have a winning

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record. They're below five hundred.
They're looking up at three teams in the

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Central. If they were ten games
over five hundred right now, it'd be

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a different conversation. But they're not. You have to deal with the reality

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that you've got. But part of
that reality also is that Schooble has two

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years of control beyond this year,
and you don't have to act like you

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need to rush into a deal to
make it now. That being said,

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a little different conversation, but still
something that history that you and I know,

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well, the Tigers missed their window
to trade Michael Fulmer when they did

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years ago. I know it was
different front office, different everything, but

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Foemer was still pretty young in the
way that school is still pretty young,

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and the Tigers probably could have gotten
a franchise changing return for Foemer if they

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had really done it the right way, and he started getting hurt and he

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was never the same after that in
a Tiger uniform. That is the downside

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of this to where you also don't
want to overplay your head. You don't

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want to underplay it, but you
don't want to overplay it either, And

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I think that's where I think Scott
Harris needs to do a lot of due

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diligence with this team in the next
couple of weeks. A missed opportunity last

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year with Eduardo Rodriguez as well,
Yes, exactly the same with one of

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the same suitors here with the Los
Angeles Dodgers, So it's you're exactly right.

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There should have been more value brought
back to the organization last year than

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was at the deadline. Now,
how you lead, there are people that

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really like what he's been able to
do in the minor leagues, and I

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think that he's got a chance to
be an everyday bat for the Tigers going

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forward. So well done by the
front office on the acquisition of Lee last

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year in the Lorenzen deal. But
you're right, this organization should have probably

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two more quality players either in the
high miners or the major leagues already,

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who are not there right now because
the Rodriguez deal did not happen as it

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should have two other names from the
Baltimore organization in case people are wondering.

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Kobe Mayo, who's a third baseman, first basement twenty two year old Triple

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A doing very well, hitting with
power. And Connor Norby, a second

436
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.519
basement slash outfield also at Triple A, a little older at twenty four,

437
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but blocked to a certain extent in
Baltimore and is having big power and hitting

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over three hundred at Triple A as
well. John Paul Morosi joining us here

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on X's and bros So Schooble's in
that conversation. For sure, I agree

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one hundred percent with everything you've said. What about Jack Flaherty, Is it

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a must trade for the Tigers with
him? And if so, what could

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you get in return for a guy
who's had kind of a renaissance to a

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certain extent he has. Yes,
Yeah, But it's an interesting conversation because

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last year at this time Flarity also
has moved to the deadline. I think

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you know, this year he's now
had a little bit of a back issue

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that knocked him out of one start. Hopefully that's not a long term thing.

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I do think he's clearly somebody that
you would trade, and because he's

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on an expiring contract, because you're
not in a strong contending position at the

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moment, you probably have to temper
your expectations a bit, broadly speaking,

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in terms of what they could get
back for him. Maybe it ends up

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being something similar to what they got
with Lorenz in last year. The Lorenzen

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was an All star. But that's
that's probably you know, how you lead

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is probably the high end of what
you could get for Flarity right now,

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just based on his performance, the
health risk. But I certainly think he's

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a quality guy that will have a
market. There's enough teams out there that

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really need pitching help right now.
Shep looking at the Los Angeles Dodgers for

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one example. I mean, they
basically came into co America last weekend and

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had two openers back to back days. That's not what you want to have

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if you're a team like the Dodgers, who believe that you can win the

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World Series this season. So whether
Flarity could be a fit there, I

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know certainly Scooble is somewhat of interest
to them. And then you look around

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the rest of the industry the various
teams that could use some help. I

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think the Guardians could use some pitching
help. You could even argue the Twins

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could you some pitching help as well. The Milwaukee Brewers need an arm.

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I mean, basically, most teams
that are right now in the conversation for

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00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.039
the playoffs need a little bit more
reliability, and I think Jack Flairty has

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pitched more than well enough to earn
that level of status right now at the

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trade deadline. I think there are
some really good surprises in this first half.

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I've enjoyed the first half of baseball. What Kansas City has done fifty

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six wins a year ago already with
fifty two, Cleveland ten games under the

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break even last year, and leading
the division the way they are really impressive.

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What has surprised you most good and
bad in the first half in all

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of baseball? I think the fact
that I would add on what you said,

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I agree with fully about those teams
in the Central I'm surprised the Cubs

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are last. That to me is
really mystifying. I expected more of them

476
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this season. I think on the
positive side, Milwaukee has been better than

477
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:14.800
expected, Boston has been a lot
better than expected. In Duran winning the

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MVP last night was pretty cool,
a great way to cap the first half

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of them. Rafael Devers, of
course, is doing what he normally does.

480
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Ken or Howke was an All Star, of course, and that was

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a great surt for Boston as well. But the way in which Boston has

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closed the gap on New York and
Baltimore, for me, is really surprising.

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And I think on the flip side, the way that the Toronto Blue

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Jays have really struggled this year is
I think a very standout bit of information

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that probably is going to get discussed
a lot here at the trade deadline.

486
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What the Jays can do in terms
of selling some players. Is Boba set

487
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.719
available as Vlad Guerre Junior truly available? A lot of different conversations there.

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I think out West, I would
have expected the Mariners to have a larger

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lead on the Astros than what they
have right now based on the way the

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00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.679
year started. But Houston has closed
the gap to where now shep You might

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00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.440
say, hey, with all those
years of experience with the Houston Astros,

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now the just be one game back
of Seattle. Here comes the Astros.

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Yet again. They simply will not
go away. I think those are all

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the notes there. I think the
Mets being more competitive, they're in a

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playoff spot, probably not going to
trade Pete Alonzo as a result. In

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the Philadelphia Phillies, of all the
teams I've seen this season, Ship they've

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been the best. Chemistry is outstanding, They've got multiple All Star starters,

498
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:37.360
multiple All Star relievers. They are
the best team in baseball right now,

499
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.920
and I think they're going to be
the favorite to win the World Series until

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proven otherwise. JP I picked the
Tigers in the offseason. I picked the

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00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:46.320
Tigers to win the division. Now, some of that has to do with

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00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:51.360
the fact that I didn't think Cleveland
could bounce back, especially under a guy

503
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who has never managed before, in
Steven Vote, and you've got to give

504
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:57.599
them a massive amount of credit.
And because I didn't think Kansas City would

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00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:02.760
be as far along in the rebuild
as they have proven to be. What

506
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:08.320
has Detroit lacked most, what has
kept them from reaching what some people feel

507
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:14.440
like is their potential. Why have
they underperformed In many people's eyes, They've

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been a couple of bats short.
And I think shep at the end of

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the day. If you would have
said to me, if we were talking

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about this team and before opening day, and we would have said, hey,

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Toorkalsen is going to be in the
minor leagues in the middle of the

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season, and Bias's numbers are going
to be among the worst in the league,

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I would say that they're in trouble. And that's they've been in trouble

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00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.400
Offensively, that's where they're at.
I think col Keith's emergence has been a

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00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:45.559
really important development that's been great in
Riley Green. Being healthy for the most

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part of the season has been great
as well, and that's really encouraging.

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But I think the struggles of Porklsen
Meadows bias. I mean, those are

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00:37:54.559 --> 00:38:01.159
spots where shortstop first in center,
expect than to get more out of than

519
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:06.880
what you've had, and I think
that's that's why they're I think a level

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below the other teams in the central
right now. I think pitching wise,

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I think more than adequate, especially
when when school's on the mound and when

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Flarerty's on the mound. Miya has
been a disappointment, but you're not going

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to hit on everybody. I mean, it's that they signed Clarity and Miata

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00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.199
and free agency. One of them
has been good, one of them hasn't.

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That's that tends to be the way
things typically go in free agency with

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starting pitching. I think in the
bullpen, uh, you know, it's

527
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:37.519
been an interesting year. I mean, Lang struggled, Vijured Miller, Shelby.

528
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.360
Miller's had one of the more unique
season just from a standpoint of decisions.

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I think, off the top of
my Headshet I think he's he's like

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either either like six and six or
five and Stay's like that number of decisions

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00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.360
for a reliever at this stage that
it's just it's pretty unique, Like you

532
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.000
don't see a guy who's part of
that many decisions typically at this time of

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00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:59.119
the year as a reliever, and
Shelby has been I think he's had an

534
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:02.719
interesting year. He might be a
trade Kennedy too, I think fully for

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00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:07.920
me is a very solid closer.
It's certainly much more good than bad for

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00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.119
him this season, and he might
be somebody as well that ends up being

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00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:14.760
part of the trade conversations too.
So it's been an interesting year, I

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00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.760
think in a lot of different ways. But I go back to just the

539
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:23.159
offensive inconsistency they've been for me,
one base hit, two base hits short

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of winning a whole lot more games, And I think if they had been

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more consistent at those key spots.
And again this is not all Totals is

542
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.360
fault, but not all Meadows is
fault. It's not all Hobby's fault.

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00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.360
He just collectively haven't been as good
of an offensive team as I thought they

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00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.960
were going to be. I really
like Spencer Toorkilsen. I still think he's

545
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.760
going to hit. I did expect
him to have similar numbers this year than

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he had last year. Do you
think he makes it back to the Tigers

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00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.320
at some point this season, or
do you think a full year at Triple

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00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:57.840
A might do him best. No, it's a great question, and I

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00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.360
think that it's going to be a
really interesting saying conversation for the Tigers.

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00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:05.159
Honestly, out of the deadline,
there might be some teams out there that

551
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say that listen with our swing guy, with our team, we believe that

552
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you're a Makes League first basement.
So there are some teams I mentioned Seattle

553
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.480
right now, if you're the Mariners
and if you've had issues getting productivity at

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that position this season, he's got
to be somewhere on your list. Maybe

555
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:27.039
not top of your list, but
somewhere on it. And for all the

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teams out there that thought that Alonso
might be available, or that thought that

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00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:35.800
Christian Walker might be available, and
now those teams are playing better and maybe

558
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not going to sell, the next
pot call might be the Tigers and say,

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00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:44.360
hey, listen, what Troubles is
doing right now? How's how are

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things looking? I think that to
me, don't be surprised that the Mariners,

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if they can't get who they want
as a bat, don't be surprised

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00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.440
that they if they turn around and
try to get troubles with the Tigers.

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I think that's a very logical move. I mean, he's he's the kind

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00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.119
of talent who, let's not forget
last year, hit thirty home runs,

565
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and the number of guys who are
young and relatively inexpensive and hit thirty home

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runs is not terribly high. And
so I think that trying to get trying

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00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:14.840
to maybe get focused at right now
and a bit of a change of scenery

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that might help. I mean,
I cannot imagine that he's having a good

569
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.559
time as a as a triple A
player right now. He's a proud he's

570
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.280
a proud major league first baseman who's
a number one overall pick in the draft.

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He does not want to be in
the minor league right now, and

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I think that that part of his
story. If you can't find a way,

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00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:37.559
in a clear path for him to
be in the major leagues right now,

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then moving on, honestly might be
the best thing for all parties.

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Well, you tell a hell of
the stories, and proud to call you

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00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.920
a friend, JP. Thanks for
all that you do and keeping us up

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to date and spending some time with
us this morning. Great insight, great

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00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.199
knowledge is always say hello to your
beautiful daughters and your beautiful wife. Have

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a great rest of the baseball season, my friend Fall all the same wishes.

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Tune your family as well. My
friend, congratulations on the new show.

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00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.880
You do amazing work as always no
matter what the medium is. UH,

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You're a superstarship so always enjoy a
conversation.

