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So what do you think the most
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say, you know, the old
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I'm like, yeah, but we're
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So I like the idea of am
small and except you're gonna miss big.

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But if there's any one thing that
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besides work on your speed, hit
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one shape, Like those are just
mandatories. But then it's what we call

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the Tiger five because he's infinitely smarter
in the game of golf than I am.

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Tiger was getting frustrated with feeling like
he was making the same mistake every

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day, but instead of laughing about
it, he sat down and came up

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with the five things that were the
most common mistakes he felt like he was

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making that were silly. And they
are bogeys on par fives, doubles,

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three putts, bogies with nine iron
or less, and then what he called

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blown easy saves. And so Tiger
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those five mistakes to six or fewer
per tournament, that he would win.

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Hi. This is Jim manstaid from
Lewisville and I play at Windmill Lakes Golf

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Club. This is Golf Smarter number
nine hundred and thirty, the Tiger five,

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a cure for the most common round
killers, with the creator of the

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Decade golf app, Scott Fasst.
This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories,

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tips and insights from great golf mindes
to help you lower your score and raise

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your golf IQ. There's your host, Fred Green. Welcome back to the

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Golf Smarter podcast. Scott absolutely thanks
for having me, Fred, really looking

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forward to it. I am looking
forward to talk to you again too,

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because you were on a couple of
years ago when you were first introducing I

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think you were first introducing pretty cul
Me. It was, yeah, the

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Decade Golf app, and it's it's
made some tremendous advancements in those couple of

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years and there's a lot that it
offers and I want to talk about,

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but we're not going to talk about
the product for a while. Let's talk

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about why we need the product.
I was watching a video that you did

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with the guys at Barstool oh yeah, on your website, and I really

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really enjoyed watching it because of the
nine hundred and thirty episodes of Golf Smarter

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that I've done. Watching this video
is like, yeah, those are all

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the things that we talk everything that
this kid was like his mind was blown

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about what you showed him, and
his mind was like, oh my,

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my rock my world, and you
change my viewpoint of all these little nuanced

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things that he was doing. It's
like, well, that's what we've been

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talking about here on Golf Smarter the
entire time. It's crazy because one of

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the main criticisms I used to get
was that everything I teach is just common

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sense, which I'm like, I
don't disagree with that, but nobody does

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it, so it's not common sense
and it certainly isn't easy to do.

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But more importantly, even if it
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anything as intuitive or you just you
know, people just get it. Everyone

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you come out of the womb a
blank slate. Everything you know you learned

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at some point. Nobody just knows
how to pick a target or how to

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play patient discipline golf, Like,
that's just not in our DNA. So

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even if you know, laying up
guys are the main ones that you used

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to just wear me out about this
and I'm like, that's fair enough,

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but like you didn't know this at
some point, and I doubt you'd actually

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do it still. But again,
it takes so much effort to learn and

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to really again do on a daily
basis. It's just really difficult to do

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it is, And you know,
I think that's why the show is called

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Golf Smarter. I mean, it's
just there are things that you can do

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that are going to improve your game
without having to worry about your stroke.

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I mean again, one hundred percent. Raymond Floyd has a book, The

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Art of Scoring is what it's called, And on the back page of it,

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you know, the backjacket, he
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had the identical games and skills,
like so, just you're a clone of

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me, but I've got my mental
game and you have yours, I would

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beat you ninety nine times out of
one hundred. And I'm just like,

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that's it's such a true statement.
It's incredible. And I mean, you

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know, Decade got started almost ten
years ago now, which is amazing.

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In twenty fourteen, when I did
all this work and then caddied for will

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z alt Taurus, who again was
just a seventeen year old junior golfer at

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my home course when he won the
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world. I was on the corn
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so even when he was like nine
to thirteen years old, I was

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playing full time professional golf basically,
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that would just tag along with me
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gating, story playing. Yeah,
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I just remember as as he got
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don't understand how this kid doesn't win
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and he just hits it like no
one I've ever seen. And again he's

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ranked thirty three hundred in the world, never won more in a high school

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golf tournament, and luckily for me, I hurt myself a couple weeks before

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the Texas Amateur. So I called
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did a lot of work on strategy
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I think this has to be what
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you, and he winds up winning
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just amazing to watch because this kid
at that time, he'd never beaten me

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in a single round of golf,
Like however many times we'd played, he'd

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never yet beat me, and here
he shoots rounds that if I'd won the

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Texas Sam, I'd have been like, I played great, well theoretically I

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should I would have won because at
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like he's gonna beat me four straight
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much strategy in thought process, Like
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same player overnight, except he got
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I mean literally overnight. I just
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so again just the camp saying that
I say all the time, and every

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podcast I say it, probably seven
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if you feel like you should have
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play, there's only one of two
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as you think you are, or
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literally can be nothing else that it
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so your expectations are out of whack. You're not as good as you think

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you are, or you just keep
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up. And that's what I was
doing, and I played professional golf in

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my twenties. I would do all
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would go to Chili's or the outback
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laugh about all the dumb stuff we
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it again the next day. And
it's funny because I've tried to analyze why

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that is, and the only thing
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under the impression that, well,
just practicing more, just getting better is

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going to make those mistakes go away. So missing the green with that sand

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wedge or gap wedge and making a
bogie where you're like, I just need

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to get better with my sandwich,
like, or maybe you just need to

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play a little smarter and stop trying
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you know, working it both ways
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so difficult. Oh, there's so
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You just podcast in its own,
Yeah, exactly, But I need to

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back up on one thing. I
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first round that you caddied for Will
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him out, to be perfectly honest, So I took all the shot length

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data, combine it with launch monitored
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and so I explained all this to
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leading into it, I had him
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a song with the long, slow
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breath if he's freaking out out there. I was trying to like figure out

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if this goes wrong, why,
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there and completely freak out. And
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gone through target selection. Like I
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of golf with Fred Couples at ninety
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a member at glenn Egles here in
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aside from Fred when he was number
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I've never seen someone hit the ball
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face than Will like it's he doesn't
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incredible to say. So that first
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we're aiming at flags, depending on
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the greens and how long the shot
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I would say, out of eighteen
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aiming somewhere between the middle of the
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on fourteen of the eighteen shots.
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every single shot like a laser beam, exactly where I told him to.

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bow. You'd be shoot sixty seven. And I promise you I was driving

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home that day and I was thinking, I think he would have shot lower

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if he just fired at every single
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exactly where I told him to.
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kind of like is this right?
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stripes it. And then the next
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he had a one or two shot
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out the next round, and he
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he hit it out of the middle
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lot. He hit it so bad
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driving home and I was like,
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wasn't there, like controlling his emotions, keeping him present, not letting him

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get frustrated. I mean, so
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I don't know about this. But
after the second round and then the

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third and fourth round, you realize
this is a game of you know,

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just a game. It's math game
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and backgammon are obviously math games.
We all know that, but you would

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never think of golf as a math
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odds of you hitting a certain shot, your resulting expectation from there, and

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then how do we manage our way
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expectation problems. It's funny because when
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couple of years ago, I used
to think I was pretty good at math,

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and then I met some people who
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I'm just embarrassed because I'm up there
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I'm just like, what am I
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of the day, it is that
simple. Once you understand I've got a

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fifty percent chance of hitting this shot
or whatever, and well that's not a

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high enough percentage. I need to
find a different shot. It's like the

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one adage where I actually do strictly
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If you can't pull the shot off
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time, you need to pick a
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math is literally that straightforward. And
it's funny because I did all this work

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independently on my own prior to Mark
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didn't even remember reading this passage.
But it was like a couple of years

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later and we're actually having a lunch
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David was like, was there anything
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like, I doubt it. I
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do, I bet Mark's math is
correct. I'm letting my bias as a

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player say, well, I get
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that's not really how it works.
And David Mark Brody kind of laughed,

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Who's marks the inventor of the Strokes
Gained Statistics of Columbia business professor. Really

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smart, nice guy. And he's
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thing that makes me mad with Scott
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the ninety percent rule. And I
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He's like, that's a chapter in
my book. And I was like,

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I swear to you, I only
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the appendices or anything at that at
that point. I didn't and I've gone

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back and read him at this point
and it was just laughing. I was

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like, well, that makes sense. We both independently came up with the

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exact same answer. And that's again, I know, you talked about average

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golfers a lot, you know,
for your show, and it's just from

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the trees. Like, I don't
care if you make bogie one hundred percent

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of the time from the trees,
but it's usually not that hard to not

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make double. And so so once
you're in the trees, you know,

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people say like, well you can
get that shot, back like, no,

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you can't. That SHOT's gone.
You have an opportunity to regain that

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shot, but you have to do
something special to regain it. We still

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just have to make mathematically correct decisions
from there. It's like if you've gone

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all in on your last hand of
blackjack and you get an eighteen and the

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dealer is showing a twenty. That
doesn't mean the math changes and you hit

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on it because you're like, well, I don't want to go home with

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nothing. Like you still do the
correct thing. And that's again the math

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is just so straightforward. It's crazy
sometimes amazing. We're going to take a

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time out. We'll be back to
talk more with Scott Fawcett about decade Golf,

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among other things, and playing smarter
golf. Right after this, when

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I was watching that Barstool video,
there was that one scene that you had

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and he's got this hero shot in
his mind where he's like, and it

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looked like eighteen inches of rough.
The ball's at the bottom of it.

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There's trees with low hanging leaves everywhere, and he's got this little opening way

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out in front of him that he
sees going, Okay, I see an

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opening. Now. He didn't calculate
the trees, he didn't calculate what the

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ball, where the ball was sitting
or anything. But he's like, I

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got this shot, and you're like, no, you don't. Don't even

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try it. And it brings me
back to one of the lines that we've

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used on Golf Smarter almost from the
beginning. And I got this from a

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listener and I use it so often
and remind myself so often, which is,

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don't follow a bad shot with a
stupid shot. There's a saying that

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I love that's if you find yourself
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it's just like Franky was, I'm
not kidding that particular shot. Tiger could

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have sat there all day and not
pulled off the shot Frankie, a fourteen

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handicap, was going to try.
And I'm like, this isn't even where

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doubles come from. This is where
triples and hire come from. I get

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it. It's a reachable par five. I sure wish I was in the

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fairway, but you're not. So
what people don't really understand is if we've

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got to keep it under a tree
that's thirty forty yards away. Well,

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a, that's an extremely low launch
angle to begin with. But we've got

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to get the ball up above the
rough and then keep it down so like

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you have to get it above the
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tangled up. And we've all hit
that shot where just putters twenty yards if

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that ahead of you, and now
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And it was just crazy to sit
there and watch this guy like I

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was just trying to be quiet because
I'm like, surely he's going to figure

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out that's not the shot. I
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I think he's about to say that's
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and it was just what was funny
at him obviously chip it out. Yeah,

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listen, you had him, you
had him do the shot, like

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no, no, no, do
this shot. Just get yourself in the

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fairway first, and then you gave
him the opportunities like go ahead, try

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it. Yeah, I'm dropping a
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And because he's having to try to
keep it so low, he's like leading

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with the heel more like a lot
of people when they're trying to deal off

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the club. They lead with the
heel instead of like how like a DJ

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or somebody would be turning it down
with that lead wrist. So you're still

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presenting the face square, but just
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the heel, and he just cold
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it was like, that was the
best outcome you got because at least now

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you're over there further right where you
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from there, like it was that
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Even if he pulled the shot off, he was gonna have like I

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don't know, one seventy or something
left, but by chipping out to where

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we had him chip out, he
had like two twenty, which again I

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get it, there's a difference in
one seventy and two twenty, but it's

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not nearly enough to offset leaving it
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again, that's the ninety percent rule
that we were just talking about in the

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first segment. There's just no teed
A. He would never pull it off,

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but B it's just it's you're typically
trying to get it a little forty

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yards closer, but it just doesn't
even matter unless you get it up and

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around the green. It almost doesn't
matter. I mean, the difference on

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the PGA Tour from eighty and one
hundred and twenty yards is a tenth of

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a shot. Like it's it's just
nothing. And so here's a forty yard

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difference. And so like hitting a
lob wedge from eighty feels a lot easier

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than a gap wedge from one to
twenty or whatever it is for you,

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but it's just not it's just just
not that much easier until you can actually

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get it up there chipping, which
again is why I talk so much about,

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especially on short part fours, where
people tend to lay off and they're

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just like, well, I'm just
gonna get a three wood out there in

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the fairway, and it's like get
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possibly can. Absolutely, yeah,
get it in the fairway if you can,

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but get it as close to the
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necessarily hitting all fairways, right,
well, you can make shots. Yeah,

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the fairway's gonna jump in the wave
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And again that's where you play super
aggressive off the tee and then you

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reassess if you happen to hit the
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We can play a little bit more
aggressively from here. But if you're just

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laying back. I mean again,
when Brooks won the uh, I don't

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remember's the PGA or US Open.
At beth Page, he gets up there

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on he either makes he makes like
a birdie or a par on seventeen to

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have a one shot lead or maybe
a two shot lead. I think he

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had a two shot lead on eighteen
t And Faldo said, you know,

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we'll see if he plays keeps aggressive
here or if he plays a little bit

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smarter and a little bit more conservative
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And it's like fairway's twenty two yards
wide where two iron's going Like you're

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not hitting that honestly, you're not
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some odd percent of the time.
Like you're just not hitting that much.

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And the funny thing about beth Page
is the bunkers don't have lips for the

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most part, and so driver up
there, you would much rather be in

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the bunker at one hundred and ten
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I mean, it's just it's literally
not even close either. And so

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it's like everything about hitting driver on
that hole in every circumstance, even with

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only a one shot lead, even
if you're one back, like it's just

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the mathematically correct play. That's one
of the things I talked about decision making

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there. It's not right or wrong, it's just mathematically correct. I mean,

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it's a very narrow way of looking
at something. But there's a good

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and a bad decision there isn't the
situation doesn't really matter. I mean,

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especially in golf because it's the only
sport in the world that's not played with

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a shared ball. There's no defense
for the most part, you know,

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except for live or unique situations with
tea times that you really even know what's

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going on in the golf tournament to
where you can actually use, you know,

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game theory to make you know,
a suboptimal but optimal for this situation

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decision. Like in poker at the
final table, I can play very suboptimal,

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but I'm making optimal decisions based on
the status of the tournament. I

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can see everyone, what everyone's doing. I can do certain things. Yeah,

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asked, is alatoris after the Masters
that first year when he finished second

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as a corn or not even a
corn for I members, a non anything

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member. And when Hideki hit it
in the water on fifteen, Will was

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on seventeen t like, he's right
there, but he couldn't see that it

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went in the water, And I'm
like, what are you doing there?

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And He's like, I have no
idea if that ball is wet, if

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it's up, you know, I'm
a few shots back. But again,

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as we've always talked about Scott,
it's just irrelevant information. It just doesn't

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matter. I'm going to play my
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You know, how you say there's
no defense in golf. I'm not so

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sure I agree with that because one
of the things that I've always had an

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issue with is that the US USGA
is an advocate for the golf course,

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not the golfer, right, and
so I would say defense is the golf

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course. I mean again, I
would agree with that. I actually wouldn't

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agree with that. I'm saying when
I say defense, there's nothing you can

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do to nothing you can do to
impact your opponent's play. You're both playing

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the same golf course. So that's
kind of like like an interaction that that

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cancels each other out because everyone else
is playing the same course. And I

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used to get people all the time
again because I'd say that. Sometimes they'd

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be like, well, I mean
there's some games and ship stuff where you

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can jingle change in your pocket and
you know, move a little bit.

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And I'm like, well, I'm
not. I'm saying, you're not trying

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to be a jerk, like we're
trying to play this game like gentlemen.

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Yes, there's things you can do
to impact your opponents play, not that

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won't get you a very bad name
in golf. Well that's probably why this

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isn't the biggest podcast in golf the
golf world because I say stupid stuff that

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comes out and and people like you
go, no, I mean it's not

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stupid, it's just you know,
I'm a recreational golf I'm not a competitive

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golfer. I don't play in tournaments. I don't play for money. I

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just go out and want to beat
myself. That's really. I love being

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with the people that I'm with,
but I'm just out there trying to,

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you know, do a little bit
better every time I go out there,

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which is I mean, everybody everybody
says dumb stuff every once in a while.

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You're not going to find a bigger
Tiger or Rory fan than me,

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and they both support bifurcation. I
guarantee you that's the least well thought out

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idea in the golf ball roll back
debate. It's just again. I hate

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saying it's just it's just stupid,
and Tiger supports it. So like on

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this one situation, Tiger's just wrong. I guarantee you I could convince some

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of that in under five minutes in
a debate too, where he'd be like,

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huh, really, hadn't thought that
all the way through? You're right.

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I would be stunned if I couldn't
get him to say those words.

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So everyone can be wrong. Oh
boy, oh boy. The Internet loves

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controversy, and we're going to bring
some up right after this. We'll be

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brought back. All right, you
brought it up. I didn't bifurcation.

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Let's what about so many rules coming
out because they want they want the tour

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players to not hit it as far
and punish us in the meat we're talking

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about less than one percent of all
golfers in the world is where the rules

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are all coming from it feels like
it's crazy. What do you think?

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Yeah, the golf ball, the
new golf ball rules for twenty twenty five.

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I guess it's going to be next
year, right. I literally have

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no idea. I try to stay
so far out of it, and I

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mean, I know what they're doing, but I don't know. I thought

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if you do that, that they're
implementing it, I would think that happen

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further way than that, but I
could hopefully, who knows. I mean,

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they could be implementing it for the
tour first and then saying they're going

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to do you know, do it
for the rest of us later. But

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yeah, just what is surprised they
have the R and D done completely?

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It's just so bifurcation. The problem
with bifurcation, and people's default response is

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well, they do it in baseball
with metal and wooden bats, and yeah,

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whatever the problem with bifurcation. I
think we can all agree that golf

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is in a great place right now, and a huge reason it's in a

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great place is because of all these
young studs Xalatoris, Moricawa, you know,

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and Jordan Speeth, Scottie Scheffler.
Just I mean, the list is

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just really pretty endless. Over the
last six years, to be perfectly honest,

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ever since I released a decade and
removed the need of the learning curve,

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you know, I've worked with the
vast majority of these players under the

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age of twenty eight on tour.
The reason bifurcation is a bad idea is

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because if there's a tour ball or
a roll back ball that amateurs play or

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that the tour plays, and then
a juice ball that amateurs play, where

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do you draw the line. So
the way the PGA Tour schedule works,

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you get seven exemptions for the players
that are coming out of college, so

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they've got to play the non rolled
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So now we're talking, we're in
the first week of June and with the

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FedEx Playoffs starting just a couple months
away. You used to have a lot

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longer where the players could Monday qualify
in they could finish in a top ten

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and use that start the next week
that they could get Like when Justin Leonard

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did it, I don't know how
I should go back and look at it.

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Justin Leonard gained status as a non
member off of just exemptions, but

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I guarantee you did it in more
starts than it's possible for current college players.

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And so now if we've got a
college player who's capable more collaz alataurs

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being perfect examples of being on tour, they're having to play the juiced ball

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through the NCAA Championships and then switch
immediately to a ball that's gonna spin different,

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it's gonna fly different distances, it's
gonna react different, and win chip

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shots are going to be different.
I mean, putting theoretically is going to

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also be fractionally different, and speed
control is by far the most important thing

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in putting. And so these players, it's gonna take them a couple months

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to adjust to the new ball to
play competitively at the highest level. When

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I say this, it's like people
think I'm saying they're not gonna be able

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to break eighty. Like, no, they're going to be really good,

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But there's virtually no chance outside of
luck on any given week that the players

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could do They're certainly not going to
do it at the scale they've done it

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over the last couple of years.
So yeah, sure, a player or

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two every couple of years might still
pull it. Off by just getting hot

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one week. But for the most
part, it's just that would stop,

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and these players would now all be
going to the corn Ferry Tour essentially the

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following years a post to straight on
tour, and so all this stuff that

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we've seen recently basically drives up overnight. And I do believe that it's important

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to have the PGA Tour as young
as it possibly can be, and certainly

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not any older that needs to be
for just some arbitrary reason of changing equipment.

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When I was playing professionally, that
the new wedges came out with the

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groover le in like twenty eleven or
twenty twelve, I can't remember when they

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were finally implemented. And I had
entered Q school that year, and I'd

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just been playing casual Friday golf with
my buddies all year year back here in

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Dallas. In the week before Q
school, one of my friends, Martin

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Flores, who plays on touries,
like, how are you adjusting the new

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wedges? And I'm like, I
didn't even think about it. He's like,

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well, Q school, you're gonna
need new wedges. Like if he

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hadn't said that to me, I
would have shown up the next week for

408
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sure, and been buying wedges in
the golf shop to go into the first

409
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round, assuming I didn't accidentally tea
off on them and just get disqualified.

410
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And it did take me a couple
of months to be as sharp with him

411
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because the ball was spinning less,
especially out of the rough like chipping.

412
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Everything was different. And so it's
not like I couldn't play, but I

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certainly was not as sharp as I
should be. And a SHOT's difference at

414
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,319
that level is it's insurmountable. The
counter that is, then people say,

415
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:45,200
well, they can just split their
time, like nobody's good enough to play

416
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:51,079
college golf, do college work,
everything else that's associated with college, and

417
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,880
split their time and maintain their world
ranking because that world ranking is now was

418
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,039
so important with PGA Tour university.
There's not a thing. It would be

419
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:03,759
completely ignorant to split your time between
balls, and so that's just bifurcation just

420
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:06,839
doesn't work. And so then people
say, well, then we'll just push

421
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,599
it down to it's just the usg
events. Well, what about a guy

422
00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:11,839
like me who likes playing in the
US midm every once in a while.

423
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,160
Am I supposed to play the regular
ball in my wolf game and then play

424
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,799
the roll back ball and the usg
events. Okay, well we'll walk it

425
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,640
back all the way to elite tournament
golf and college golf. So now you're

426
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high school player. They're coming in
as freshmen, and they've got to make

427
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:33,079
this transition. Like no matter where
you do it, you literally just keep

428
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,880
pushing it on the younger and younger
players who are the most important demographic in

429
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,039
the game because they're the future of
the game. They are the future USGA

430
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:47,240
officials and golfers that bring other players
in in their twenties in college, Like,

431
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,400
young players are the most important.
So I don't care about rolling it

432
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,559
back. I can't believe they only
chose five percent. Like, if you're

433
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:57,559
gonna do it, rip a band
aid off, hammer it ten percent and

434
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,599
let's be done with it for a
long time. And again, I hope

435
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,640
the point of this segment was a
rant by me. But distance also just

436
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,440
isn't compounding to infinity. People think
that these tour players are gaining speed every

437
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:17,000
distance every single year because of equipment. The smash factor, which is ball

438
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:21,240
speed divided by clubhead speed, has
been capped at one point five for twenty

439
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,119
years. The only way this entire
century to hit the ball further is to

440
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,240
swing the club faster. That's it. And yes, I get it that

441
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,160
longer shafts and lighter clubs and whatever
allow that, but you still can't have

442
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,759
a smash over one point five.
I've done this on Instagram live before.

443
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,119
I've got a twenty five year old
Callaway Great Big Bertha, the original Great

444
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:45,160
Big Bertha, and a twenty five
year old Strata, which the reason I

445
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,440
used a Stratus because was the first
solid core ball. When people do these

446
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,039
tests and use the old balladas and
titleists, the liquid core has evaporated,

447
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:56,279
the rubber bands have denigrated, like
that's just an irrelevant thing. So I've

448
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,240
used a solid core ball, I've
used a twenty five year old driver,

449
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:03,039
and I've got I turned ball speeds
out of them and I'm fifty. These

450
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:07,319
guys could do it no matter how
small you made the clubhead. And again

451
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:10,799
then people are like, well make
the ball spin here. Well, if

452
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:12,519
you do that, that's only going
to benefit some guy that hits it really

453
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:17,559
short or has a weird launch.
You can't have a you can't have a

454
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,880
regulated ball in golf. Back to
the idea of it's a non shared ball

455
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,920
sport. You just can't because the
whatever ball you choose would be optimal for

456
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,839
one guy and suboptimal for another one. And that's just an arbitrary point that

457
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:34,599
I'm sorry, that's not fair to
whoever. It just doesn't happen to be

458
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:40,559
optimal for I mean again, roll
it back ten percent, five percent,

459
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:45,440
whatever, knock yourself out. But
bifurcation is just an absolutely horrific idea once

460
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,839
you think it out all the way
through from idea to actual implementation, and

461
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,240
you think that wasn't done. That
wasn't done bifurcation. They're not doing bifurcation.

462
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:56,880
They aren't, or I don't believe
they are. No, No,

463
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,240
I mean you think that it wasn't
taught all the way through when a guy

464
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,119
like Tiger and Roy says that's the
better alternative. No, they have not

465
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,559
thought that all the way through.
I mean, well, yeah, and

466
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:12,799
I didn't. They're just wrong.
They don't have a problem Tiger Roy,

467
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:17,279
I really do love both of you. You're my two favorite players. So

468
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:21,440
that's the wrong way. I'm sure
they are listeners. Well, I asked

469
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,839
for controversy, and you know you
talk about how the young, The young

470
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,400
players the most important for the PGA
Tour. It's because the older players are

471
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,920
getting sucked out of a different one. I don't even want to go I'm

472
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,319
not even going to go close to
that topic of live golf with you because

473
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:40,079
I have a feeling there's another rant
there. But I want to talk about

474
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,160
because we have limited time now,
I want to talk more about about decade

475
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Golf app and all the products that
you have, uh and the usefulness of

476
00:30:49,720 --> 00:31:00,599
them for the rest of us.
Do that after this. I get the

477
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:04,839
sense that most golf instructors are teaching
people how to hit a golf ball,

478
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:11,759
but very few golf instructors, and
I think it's mainly because of opportunity,

479
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:17,400
are teaching people how to play golf. I have a feeling you're going to

480
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,680
tell me they're a really big difference
between two the best instructors and you can.

481
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:26,319
I mean, it's unfortunate because this
is kind of a chicken or the

482
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,920
egg situation. But the best instructors
for the most part are at very high

483
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:36,839
end clubs. And the reason that's
important is because there's just less play.

484
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,799
So Cameron McCormick, you know,
I used to do some work with him

485
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,359
and his players. Way back when
I first started doing this, he was

486
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:48,160
working with Xalators at the time,
and so I went because Kramer Hickock's a

487
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,400
guy that I've worked with since he
was a little kid, and I went

488
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,160
and watched a lesson with him,
and Cameron just gets him out and they

489
00:31:56,759 --> 00:31:59,240
sure they hit balls and they work
on their swing, and then he gets

490
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:04,599
them out on the course and he
talks through very well situations and how to

491
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,319
think of this shot. And again
he's a great instructor, so he's very

492
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:12,960
good at getting players out on the
course. But that's really only possible at

493
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,480
a super high end place. It's
it's not like you can just if you

494
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,039
just go get a tea time in
the middle of a place that's playing in

495
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,799
four and a half hours, like
that's a two and a half hour nine

496
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:25,599
holes, let alone hitting any balls
beforehand or anything like that becomes a very

497
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,880
inefficient use of everyone's time and money. Great point, and so I just

498
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:37,200
just unfortunately it's just really difficult to
get out on the course with players as

499
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,200
often as you need to. And
I'll have parents literally all the time they'll

500
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,519
complain to me about their kids.
Instructors just like you know, Bob's not

501
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:45,799
getting out on the course as much
as he needs to. With my kid,

502
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:47,920
I'm like, well, did you
give him five hundred dollars his rates

503
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,000
two fifty an hour? Well,
that's ridiculous, Like I don't disagree with

504
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,559
that, but do you do legal
work for half price? For whatever reason?

505
00:32:55,599 --> 00:33:00,240
Like, I highly doubt it.
They expect them to come. They

506
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,559
didn't come watch my kid in a
tournament to really see how he plays out

507
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:05,279
there. I'm like, well,
now you're talking six hours, Like this

508
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,839
kid has moles and you know this
guy has males defeat. Also, it's

509
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,200
just the game is it's the only
sport in the world that's not taught on

510
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,440
the field of court competition. Where's
a basketball lesson? Are they doing it

511
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,359
just in a in a gym with
no hoop and no I mean no lions,

512
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,720
no, no tennis court with no
net like golf. It's just it's

513
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:30,720
just a different sport because of how
large the playing field is. And so

514
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:35,799
it's just it really is just impossible
to get out on the course as much

515
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:37,640
as you need to. And you
know, back to your question about the

516
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,880
decade, app that's the point of
the decade app. And it's funny because

517
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,799
so Xalatorus obviously is the first player
I worked with day Shambeau's the second player.

518
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:51,000
Because the SMU coach came up to
me and said at the US Amateur

519
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
that summer after Will won the Junior
and he's like, I don't know what

520
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,119
you're doing with Will right now,
but I think it has something to do

521
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,480
with strategy. I've got this player, Brice, and to Shambeau that I

522
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,079
can't him to play the game,
you know, air quotes correctly and you

523
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:05,519
know, with a little more patience
and discipline. Bryce and when he was

524
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:07,840
in college, thought if it's my
week, it's my week. I am

525
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,719
firing at every single pin and he's
ranked fifty seventh in the world. I

526
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,320
mean, I literally created the decade
seminar for Bryson because the coach at SMU,

527
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,119
json Enlos, said it's got to
be done indoors, otherwise you're a

528
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,079
third paid coach, and so I
did. I bought a drone and filmed

529
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:27,199
all this footage and just we just
sat inside and talked through situations with the

530
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,480
entire SMU team. That SMU team
not only had Dave Chambeau, it had

531
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,480
Austin Smotherman who's now on the PGA
Tour. It had two other guys that

532
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:39,599
wound up winning the US four ball. Like out of that single room came

533
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,480
several tour players, more USGA champions, and it's just like it's such an

534
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,039
well, this is literally when the
NCAA banned my seminar, they said it's

535
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,320
an unfair competitive advantage and it's funny. Just yeah, I mean it was

536
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,239
a great parting gift as they're banning
me from doing my job, but it's

537
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,800
just such a hard game to learn
to play correctly. Well, that's the

538
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,840
decade when people I just saw this
post literally last night on Facebook where the

539
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:08,440
guys like I'm really considering stats app
and looking at decade and clipped and there's

540
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,199
a ton of great stats apps out
there now, but Decade. Yes,

541
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,960
it is a stats app, but
its first and foremost point is teaching you

542
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:21,719
strategy and course management through when you
buy the app, there are four dedicated

543
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,519
hours of just tutorial content. Bam, you watch this first and then you

544
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:30,440
start tracking stats. But then there's
another one hundred hours at least of just

545
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,840
webinars that I've done for my members. Just you can just keep on absorbing

546
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,400
all of these ideas, because again
it's just important. If you putted terrible

547
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,440
in a tournament, you would go
practice you're putting that day. Most people

548
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:46,760
go work on their stroke and not
their speed, which is you're probably actually

549
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,599
getting worse by doing that. If
you put bad, you should go work

550
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:55,239
on your speed. Ninety plus percent
of the time in golf, you think

551
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,159
bad. Again, thinking bad is
what I believe leads you to the feeling

552
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:05,079
like you should have shut lower,
but then there's no organized way to improve.

553
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,920
That's that's the point of decade.
You're not comparing me to another stats

554
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,239
app. Stature generic like math is
a commodity. If there's no one stats

555
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,000
app that is better than another stats
app. The point of decade is to

556
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:21,599
teach you how to stop making those
pedantic mistakes, which then obviously leads to

557
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:25,840
lower scores, and then we drive
content to you based on the statue are

558
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,280
tracking that should help you figure out
how to you know to stop making these

559
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:36,679
just again every day, the exact
same mistake. That's the point. So

560
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,920
what do you think the most common
mistakes are on the golf course by amateurs?

561
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:52,440
That is addressed by decade specifically,
it's not hitting driver enough off the

562
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,639
tee, it's aiming at too many
flags, or honestly not even really aiming

563
00:36:55,679 --> 00:37:00,719
at anything, just kind of hitting
it that way. Again, I love

564
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,320
when people say, you know,
the old sniper mentality of am small,

565
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,159
miss small. I'm like, yeah, but we're stalking. We're never gonna

566
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,119
miss small in golf. So I
like the idea of am small and except

567
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:15,079
you're gonna miss big. And that's
the whole point of getting strategy in there.

568
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,320
But if there's any one thing that
I would say to really answer your

569
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,880
question besides just these concrete work on
your speed, hit driver more often,

570
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:27,159
hit driver with only one shape,
like those are just mandatories. But then

571
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:31,000
it's what we call the Tiger five, which Tiger because he's Tiger. Now

572
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:35,800
I'm gonna praise you. He's infinitely
smarter in the game of golf than I

573
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,719
am. Tiger. When he was
in his early twenties and first playing professionally,

574
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,400
he was getting frustrated with feeling like
he was making the same mistake every

575
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,760
day. But instead of laughing about
it with his friends at Chili's, he

576
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,559
sat down and took notes, like, why do I feel that way?

577
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,239
And I guarantee you those notes weren't
because I should have gotten a better look

578
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,480
at Bertie with this borron to a
back left hole location. So, after

579
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:59,239
tracking these things for I don't know, six months or year, however long

580
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,760
it was, I really want to
ask him that someday, but how long

581
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,920
did you think about this? He
came up with the five things that were

582
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,760
the most common mistakes he felt like
he was making that were silly, and

583
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,360
they are bogeys on par fives,
doubles, three putts. He tracked bogies

584
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,400
with nine iron or less, which
I tell females to track bogey's inside one

585
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:24,800
thirty and men bogies inside one fifty, just because everybody hits their nine irons

586
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,280
different distances. And then what he
called blown easy saves, which is subjective

587
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,840
to Tiger's opinion. And so I
tell people to just track how many times

588
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,679
do you too chipping around? Which
those five things, it's not no three

589
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,719
putts, it's not too many three
putts. And so Tiger somehow figured out

590
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,119
that if he could keep those five
mistakes to six or fewer per tournament,

591
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,239
that he would win win on the
PGA Tour. And so again we're just

592
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,000
talking about bogeys on par fives,
doubles, three puts, boge inside one

593
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:59,719
fifty and not two chipping. I
mean, that's the data that we were

594
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,519
able to actually extrapolate from shot Link, and the actual number of how many

595
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:07,800
times those things happen for the winner
is six point four per tournament, So

596
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:15,039
again that's one and a half ish
times around that they're doing these really mundane,

597
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:21,079
pedantic things, and it's just like
clean those up, and especially the

598
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,679
bogies inside one fifty. Tiger went
from averaging two point three in the late

599
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,679
nineties. Yeah, he won,
but he didn't win much. I mean,

600
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,119
I mean the thirteen shot Masters win
makes people think that he just came

601
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:35,440
out of the gates winning everything,
and from ninety seven on he didn't win

602
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,840
that much in ninety seven, eight
to nine until the middle of the ninety

603
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,360
nine season, which I do believe
is when he put this into play,

604
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,800
because he went from kind of you
know, he won one tournament in the

605
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,760
first how many events he won like
eight of his last nine, and then

606
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,599
crushed two thousand and it literally happened
overnight, where in the first half of

607
00:39:53,679 --> 00:40:00,239
ninety nine he was making two point
three bogies per per per round in side

608
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,239
of one point fifty to one point
three. He went from averaging two point

609
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,960
three basically in the late nineties to
one point three in the two thousand,

610
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:14,400
you know, late ninety nine to
about two thousand and eight range. Like

611
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,280
people say, like, maybe you
got better overnight, Like I don't think

612
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,440
so. I mean, I just
don't think so. There's only one explanation

613
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:25,159
for getting that much better overnight,
and it's I changed my strategy. I

614
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,199
changed how I'm playing the game,
not the mechanics of my game. And

615
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,280
so that's the thing again, Like
sure, I'd love it if you buy

616
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,880
the Decade app, but as an
amateur at home, those are the five

617
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,840
things you want to want to focus
on. And if you finish a round

618
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,480
of golf and think you should have
shut lower and it's not one of those

619
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:45,599
five things, you're kidding yourself.
I mean, that's that's it. You're

620
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:51,119
just there's there really is nothing else
to say besides you're kidding yourself if it's

621
00:40:51,159 --> 00:40:55,760
not one of those five Wow,
Wow, that's awesome, thank you.

622
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,079
Yeah, one of the things that
one of the last things I want to

623
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,840
talk about because I'm intrigued by it, but I don't get it. Is

624
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,480
I've never understood how to use a
yardage book. And I see that in

625
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:10,719
the Decade app you can print out
or can you just use it on your

626
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:16,239
phone? Use that you can use
it on the phone. Explain what that

627
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,280
can teach us and how to use
it. Well, I mean again,

628
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,360
this is you'll never see a tour
player playing an event without a yardage book.

629
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:30,360
And so let's say that you're a
fifteen handicap who never uses a yardage

630
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,800
book. So we want to get
somewhere closer to a tour player. As

631
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,960
the goal, we're just trying to
shift across this spectrum somewhere. And so

632
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,920
the question of how you use it
is great because it's like you're just using

633
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,840
this to see distances to certain bunkers, just how wide the greens are.

634
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:47,320
There's just a number of different things
that you can use a yards book,

635
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,199
especially the Decade yards book, because
we tell you how wide the fairway is

636
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:57,000
at different distances. We tell you
the lip of this bunker is this far

637
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,800
to the front edge of the green, which again most of us use lasers

638
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,239
that point, so that's not quite
as necessary. But you still just want

639
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,360
to have a satellite's view of where
you're going. There's just again, there's

640
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:12,079
just strategically, there's there's no way. One of the things people used to

641
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,079
talk about doing was going up for
practice rounds and walking the course backwards so

642
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:21,239
you're not fooled by any of the
architects bunker lips that are thirty yards short

643
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,840
of the green. And I'm like, with lasers, haven't we kind of

644
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,280
gotten over? Man? I thought
that bunker was right on the edge of

645
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,920
the green. Like, why you're
not even lasering the bunker anymore? So

646
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:35,599
who cares? It's just an optical
illusion. Once you start using satellite imagery

647
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,239
and overhead shots, like, there's
no mystery anymore. And again, this

648
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,400
is where I actually do agree that
a lot of the golf course architectures and

649
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,480
the enthusiasts get mad at me because
they're like, you've removed all the mystery

650
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,519
of the game. I'm like,
man, I'm not here to do your

651
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,320
job. I'm here to help players
shoot the lowest scores they possibly can and

652
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,840
lose the frustration that this game brings
you. Period. That's my job.

653
00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:00,800
Your job is to make my job
harder. My job is to make your

654
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,119
job irrelevant, not really obviously.
That's where they get mad at me,

655
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:08,239
and I'm like, you have to
design something. I'm not saying just give

656
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,400
us a long, straight hole with
no bunkers, although that's what they did

657
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,119
out here at PGA PGA frisk going
a couple holes. But it's just using

658
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:21,599
a yarns boo. There's just there's
just too much information there. I mean

659
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:22,880
again, like I'm trying to figure
out a way to answer this question a

660
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:29,679
little more concretely, but it's just
something you start doing and you figure out

661
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,960
your own method. Again, there's
videos in the decade app talking about here's

662
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,719
how you use these things, here's
how you track stats a little bit more

663
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,880
efficiently, because I don't want you
on your phone during the round tracking your

664
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,199
stats. I want you to do
this after the round. It takes you

665
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,360
know, ten twelve minutes to enter
the stats for the for the higher handicap

666
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,000
players, it didn't take that because
we start with the first couple months in

667
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,119
our Foundations app with just tracking the
tiger five, and then we add in

668
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:58,039
penalty shots, and then we add
in strokes gain, putting you know,

669
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:01,199
over the next six months to where
then it's not that big of a jump

670
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,400
to start entering all the data in
the in the full elite version. But

671
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:12,559
again this is where just you know, what gets measured gets fixed. Whatever

672
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:16,639
that's saying is, it's just true. I mean, Brad Faxson's given me

673
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:20,679
a hard time for so many years. It's ridiculous. And he was trying

674
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:24,039
to just get me canceled by by
saying players don't track your stats. You

675
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:27,599
know, I don't want my players
writing down they missed an eight foot putt,

676
00:44:27,639 --> 00:44:29,559
because then that's gonna be negative.
I'm like, well, that's a

677
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:32,440
different problem. We can address that
also. But how do I know if

678
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:35,880
missing an eight foot put is bad? Maybe you missed one, but you

679
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,920
make a bunch and you're at fifty
five percent, like that's great, or

680
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,880
you're at thirty one percent that's probably
bad. I mean, but you just

681
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,679
don't know. And I use with
the fifty tour players that I work with,

682
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,599
I use the stats and data to
illustrate to them they're not as bad

683
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,760
at something as they think they are, at a ten to one fold more

684
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,000
than I use it to say,
this is what you need to work on.

685
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Because again back to expectation management,
back to mind set. If you

686
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:04,639
miss. I mean, I won't
name the tour player, but I've watched

687
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:08,199
this tour player pout for fifteen minutes
on the fourteenth tee at TPC Craig Ranch

688
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:10,800
here during the Byron Nelson a couple
years ago, because they're waiting on the

689
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,920
tee after you just missed like a
twenty footer, and he's just got his

690
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:19,280
head down and his full on mad
face for fifteen minutes waiting for his te

691
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,400
shot, and I'm like, something's
up here. There's no way that missing

692
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,519
a twenty footer. I go look
at it, and he had basically missed

693
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:30,679
five straight twenty footers. Twenty footer
on tour is fifteen percent. Yeah,

694
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:37,199
that's not interest missing. It's just
not interesting to miss five fifteen percent things

695
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,039
in a row. Get to about
twelve, and now I'm start like,

696
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:42,639
wow, that's really surprising. You're
kind of dude to make one. At

697
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,920
some point, maybe we need to
work on this. But for the most

698
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,079
part, nobody's as bad at something
as they think they are. And that's

699
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,719
I don't want that player sitting there
being mad for fifteen minutes. I want

700
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,199
him sitting there thinking about the next
shot at hand, or just chatting with

701
00:45:55,199 --> 00:46:00,760
his buddies, like there's no reason
to dwell on the negative things already occurred.

702
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,599
M phenomenal. All right, real
quickly before you have to run out

703
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:12,880
here, tell us how to find
you online social media and get Get The

704
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,079
app is work for both iOS and
android. It does, it does.

705
00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:20,679
At this point, you can just
go to Decade dot Golf. We finally

706
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,960
have matured as a company and actually
have our domain working. We've been at

707
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,199
birdiefire dot com because I've partnered with
it with the legacy stats app to make

708
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,239
that part of the programming easier.
I quit Twitter because it's the most talk

709
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,039
successful on the planet. I suggest
everybody that's listening quit Twitter also because it's

710
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:45,920
just awful. I'm at all We're
getting political political, And then on Instagram,

711
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:52,679
I'm at decade underscore golf. Okay, excellent. One quick last question.

712
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:59,519
What about these tags that you put
on your clubs, like arcos and

713
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:07,360
shot Scope, these things that track
this information for you. I don't think

714
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:12,519
they're good. There's a number of
logical fallacies that they make by saying,

715
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,400
hey, here's the average, here's
how far you hit all of your seven

716
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,599
irons. Well, was I hitting
softer was I flighting, it was I

717
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,360
turning, It was I into the
wind. Into the wind hurts more than

718
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,719
downwind helps. There's just a number
of different things. The only thing you

719
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,519
can really do to figure out how
far your seven errand goes is get on

720
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:36,039
a range with a launch monitor and
the ball you actually use and hit twenty

721
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:38,039
or thirty shots. Figure out your
carry number. That's the only thing that

722
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:42,800
matters. And then again then you
use the information the decade teaches you to

723
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,559
figure out how to adjust that for
any given shot that you're about to hit.

724
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:49,920
So, I do think and it's
why they all fail. I mean,

725
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,719
there's been a number of them that
have gone, come and gone.

726
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,440
It's because people get it and they're
like, oh, this is really cool,

727
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,920
and then after about a month they're
like, huh whatever. It's just

728
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:04,159
they make a number of logical fallacies
I do not agree with. Again,

729
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,920
I'm more than comfortable saying, sure
the strokes gain data that they give and

730
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,159
other stuff. It's great. I
mean again, it's math is a commodity.

731
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:17,880
But the logical mistakes they make are
so blatant and obvious. I just

732
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,280
don't understand how they haven't changed them. Other than the fact it's what they've

733
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,199
hung their hat on. They can't
change them at this point. And non

734
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,679
military GPS is not accurate enough to
tell you how long a putt was.

735
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,360
It's not accurate enough to tell you
when you're just barely in the bunker.

736
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,320
Were you in the bunker? You
know, it's accurate to them like six

737
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,079
or nine feet if you're in the
near the rough or the fairways. So

738
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:42,639
there's just a ton of data.
I don't know how they do it.

739
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,719
I've never bothered looking because I don't
care. But there's no chance the data

740
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:52,039
does not have to be cleaned up
after the round, which makes it kind

741
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:53,280
of like, why not just enter
the data and not screw with all of

742
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,840
that in the first place. Yeah, I really do believe that, And

743
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,440
I don't like just bashing air quotes
compet but I do think that all of

744
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:07,679
the devices are highly flawed. Fascinating, fascinating. Well, listen, I

745
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,679
promise it's not going to be five
years till you come back on the show.

746
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:14,679
It's just too much fun. You
have too many opinions and too much

747
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,480
knowledge to share that we need to
take advantage of. Scot Apprecia great talking

748
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,880
to you. Thanks so much for
coming on you two for a thanks well,

749
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:30,400
it's been a unique experience to provide
you with updates to my physical issues

750
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,559
that I've been dealing with the last
few months. And to those of you

751
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:38,760
who live in weather battled Midwest and
Northeast, I apologize for complaining about not

752
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:45,400
playing over the winter due to injury. I just can't imagine not having access

753
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,960
to reasonable golf conditions for most of
the calendar year. Anyway, I'm happy

754
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,880
to report that there has been some
progress and relief because I've amped up my

755
00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:00,880
resistance and flexibility workouts to strengthen my
tennis elbow. For long time listeners who

756
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:06,440
remember our sponsored Dynamic Golfers the daily
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757
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,320
as well. I just love it. And lastly, I did have an

758
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,559
MRI and it showed some moderate narrowing
around the nerve on the left side of

759
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,960
my neck at the C five C
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760
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:24,360
information, and thankfully physical therapy will
work as surgery isn't required. Yay.

761
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,440
It's all good to know because coming
up in March, I've scheduled to go

762
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,039
to Atlanta and if all works out, We'll be playing eighteen holes with our

763
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:38,159
friend doctor Bob Jones the fourth,
and while there we'll record an episode together

764
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:45,760
and hopefully some video for our annual
episode talking about the Masters and Bobby Jones

765
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,320
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766
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,039
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769
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,519
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