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There you go. That's just for
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from an actual episode that's from the
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Animated show. That okay, but
he actually shoots the rock launcher and that's

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actually that's actually a scene in it. Yeah, they're super casual and the

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trooper just slowly loads the bazooka and
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audio wise, you have no idea
what just happened. Watch the YouTube version

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for that. Definitely worth it,
Jim. Yes, ladies and gentlemen,

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we are here to talk knuckles spoilers
review. It's gonna be a good time.

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I am one of your hosts,
the Fist Taylor Field that I'm joined

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by Flame of Disaster, kirklum Pats
or the Double Knucks. Yes. So

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He drops them? Yes days.
I get confused because I record them with

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him on Mondays and so it throws
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else do we got going on?
Kirkland? Oh fuck, I almost forgot.

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I'm so sorry, Thank you to
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to t Money? Is he gone? Oh yeah, we don't talk about

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like that anymore. No, he
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then he's like, all right,
that's good for me. Oh, I

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thought you guys were just meming about
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still a good supporter of the podcast. But now he's rescinded his his right

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for the Patreon producer. Oh damn, Tyler. Well, you'll have to

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ask him when he eventually joins in
After nine. Yeah, I will have

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to. Uh, but what about
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You got anything popping off? Oh? Not so much. Speaking of

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After nine, we just had a
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on Saturday. There that was lots
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people show up, so that was
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I feel like we like they happen
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I think because they're they're just a
great time, and because it seems like

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it's been so long from each After
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so much to catch up on.
There's so much content and just stuff out

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that people, you know, not
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got discord. I'm not sure if
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on there. What else do we
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big you know, GV Day Bonanza
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this summertime. That's gonna be lots
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don't know. I think that's I
think you kind of covered all the other

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plugs though. Yeah, I think
I think we got it all. So

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let's I mean, let's let's get
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kind of give like a brief overall. I don't know if you watched were

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you there for the reviews of the
other two films, I was thank you

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for remembering that. But yeah,
that was the famous one where I think

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it was Umi travel on Sonic two
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I think it was you me.
Maybe it was just you and me a

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long time ago apparently, But no, that that was the one that I

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actually missed the end credit scene,
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and I think I was like mentioning
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got to be in the next film, right. Well, you you clearly

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didn't see the end credits. No, I I've seen both of them.

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Big Sonic fan. Sega Genesis was
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ever had as a wee young lad. So of course I had a couple

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of Sonic games on there, and
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day. I remember watching the movies, like the old two D style animation,

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and I just I don't know,
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really, I don't know, just
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feel like just his quirky personality,
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big blue fan. So of course
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I always love Sonic growing up,
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those movies as well, Like I
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I watch them. I think I
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first time I saw them. Maybe
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that, but now, like when
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know what to expect, like I'm
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there. I like the soundtrack.
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Sonic heroes, and James Marsden is
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our heroes, unlike you know,
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no, I quite like the character
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universe that's in it. I feel
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do go more into I guess the
Sonic lore, but for like, it's

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nothing too deep. So I feel
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of the games, I have seen
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not thinking of like some big multiversal
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we're all all that stuff. I
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but so yeah, I feel like
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just because Knuckles is a really sweet
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badass and in my mind of the
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I just feel like the animation around
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in the Sonic movies, like when
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give us a show with Knuckles like
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what I was getting into, clearly
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episode drops. And I think it
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can't wait. It's gonna be super
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yeah, it's like apparently mostly following
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is not in as much as maybe
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of like an immediate red flag.
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should have known that. Maybe I
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looking into any information about it.
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it's like the Sonic movies, like
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right, And uh, man,
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episode one? Like oh man,
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Tails in there, but like they
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think halfway through the first episode.
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was like, man, why did
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Taylor that I maybe don't want to
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a journey and not not a pleasant
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to get through, and yeah,
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which is which is unfortunate because I
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mean, you're pretty positive on the
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maybe like the number one Sonic head
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darn early in the show. I
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to talk about the entire season,
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opposite effect of what you would want
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Sonic movie. It kind of killed
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will be what the next Sonic movie
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much to get my juices flowing and
like want the next project. Now.

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It's just like, well, it's
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so much of like maybe if it
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at least for my own thoughts,
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for that next movie, but I
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there's certain characters coming back. Yeah, yeah, humor was really wasn't great

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for me. I was even mentioned
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like, what is the show?
Who's the target audience for this show?

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guy in my mind. So it's
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not working for me at all,
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extremely extremely long. Yeah, that
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And yeah, one of the one
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I've ever seen in my life.
So that is very very low price.

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Yeah, I don't know. I
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thoughts starting very low and negative.
But hey, that's that's what the show

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did for me, but maybe a
little bit different. So I kind of

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went on tangent there. Taylor maybe
can give you your history of that's.

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Yeah, that's the kidnap rough.
So for me, I I do love

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Sonic. I missed out on the
genus this era. I did not get

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involved with that. For me.
My Sonic days were Game Boy Advance.

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I had the characters for that.
I loved playing Sonic on that that was

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my jam. I always remember,
even though I beat the game many many

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times, and funny enough afterwards when
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and I still have it on my
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But I got I got Sonic one
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Get on a Mile, which is
great, that's fantastic, and they have

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like all DLC in there too,
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has always been such a challenge because
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um rolls to actually unlock him with
tails I think was just beating the game

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and you get him. But the
Knuckles is who I really wanted to play

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as, and he was always so
hard to get. But these characters,

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I really love them. And the
movies Jim Carrey being Botnik was fantastic.

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I love that, and the movies
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I always had a good time watched
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and then I I went in with
a very strong level of optimism coming

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to the show. Well, I
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I think was it the first trailer. One of the trailers brought me

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back because I just liked Knuckle's innocent
humor where he's talking very warrior like,

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and the show seemed like, hits
well, it's regular Earth, there's nothing

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like this. Just his lifestyle doesn't
mesh well, and I thought, Okay,

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maybe there will be some chemistry here
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the humor did not work for me
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was it was weird, like I
in an unsexualized version of Austin Powers.

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I feel like this is that's the
same vibe to some slight degree in a

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very weird way. So yeah,
this the show did not do it for

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me. It really really disappointed me. There were some parts that I was

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laughing, but not laughing because of
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this is ridiculous, Like what is
going on. I'm glad these episodes half

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hour because I watched the first.
It was Saturday morning and I watched the

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first episode and I thought, okay, like I'm done for now. That

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was that was a slog I don't
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that I thought, okay, I
need to just like push through and get

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these done. And luckily it is
really less than three hours when you think

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about six episodes like twenty five minutes
each without credits included, so you can

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really kind of like push through if
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this is gonna have any real major
impact on the movie. I think the

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third movie is gonna be very,
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that there was a couple of nods
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the fourth movie. But yeah,
there's just there's some stuff that they just

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like you said, what are they
doing with this show? Who are they

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making this show for? Because it's
clearly not for kids, clearly not for

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adults. It's just the writing was
very very bad, and I never had

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a problem with it. But then
Travis kept on like saying it again and

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again, like, oh, every
movie or shows using like I Need a

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Hero that song, and now like
it's very prominent in my mind when when

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it's used and they used it in
this show, I thought, man,

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why are they using this show?
It just it seems like it's a cop

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out. Now you gotta space it
out. But the show is not,

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Uh it's not the worst show I've
seen in my life, but it's definitely

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not what I'm going to rush back
to watch not something that's really high on

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the total poll either for me of
rankings. So but you would rewatch it,

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there's a gun in my head.
I would. So I hope that

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date never comes, don't I I
on either? Yeah? Geezh yeah,

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I got I got nothing else like
an ad aside from just having questions.

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So I'm gonna throw to you when
we get the spoilers. I'd love to

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hear your questions. I think I
have questions also for you. It's okay.

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It's interesting. I was while watching
this, like especially finishing off the

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last episode finished off last night,
and I was just thinking, I'm like,

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man, maybe Halo wasn't so bad, you know, Like that's the

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level of enjoyment I got out of
this show was It was making me rethink

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Halo and being like, you know, maybe there's some good stuff in that

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show that like I actually like,
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me. Like I would definitely rewatch
both seasons of Halo before I would ever

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watch this show again. It which
is crazy because I feel like I have

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more nostalgia for Sonic than I do
in the Halo universe, Like I didn't

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experience Halo, you know, at
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going over a friend's house the first
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was literally like the first game system
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and I can't remember if it was
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game opens up when you're super Sonic
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fucks you up and takes over the
the like chaos Emeralds, and I'm just

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like, who is this guy?
Like like who is that hedgehog? Not

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knowing that he's not actually a hedgehogs
he's in a kidnap. But no,

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there's it's wild because even like the
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this. I can't remember if it
was the first movie review or the second,

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but like in that movie, I
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Sonic characters type stuff, right like
like they give us a glimpse of their

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world and just like, man,
just give me that movie. This this

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TV show had even less than what
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It was literally like I shouldn't even
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called like the Whipple The Whipple Show
with with like knuckles somewhere in there.

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He was just such a side character
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no, and you mentioned the music. I don't even like hate the songs

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that they that they chose for this, but I just felt like they were

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so oddly placed. Like even the
theme song. I don't know what that

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song is called something in the Warrior, but yeah, it just it felt

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like like an end credit like song, like like a I would play in

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the credits, versus like an intro
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I'm just kind of ranting here,
but it just seemed like any any

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little thing that they had done,
whether it was like the intro, the

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the outro, things like that,
I was just like, this just irritates

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me. I'm so mad that they
went with this choice here. And they

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definitely had the copyrighted music, as
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It just it did nothing to lift
the certain action scenes when they would

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try to choose certain songs in there. But yeah, I don't know I

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hijacked your overall thoughts because I don't
know, Yeah, it's not what you

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said. Yeah, well, unlet's
you have anything else you want to add.

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We can take a quick ad break
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So we will be right back and
we are back. So I have

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a place that I kind of want
to just touch upon. If you have

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a specific place you want to go, we can go there. No,

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I want you to take me somewhere
I need to. So this show was

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it wasn't sexualized anyway, but there
was a scene where Knuckles is in with

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Wade's bedroom, childhood bedroom, and
he uncovers this cardboard stand up and there's

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like what is this white stuff all
over like the shoulders, all of the

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edges, and like what are they
insinuating here? Like he ejaculated all over

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him because he's super embarrassed and flustered
that that Actually it didn't really I feel

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like I didn't really think too much
about it at the time because I was

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just so checked out. But yeah, no, that's that's a great observation

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because to our question earlier, like
was the show for if there's like references

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like that, it's clearly not like
Super Youngin's and there's even like a certain

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action here, it's clearly not for
like a super kitty type type humor of

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a show, but it seems like
they had mature type stuff with it,

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like other your sexual innuendo reference you
just mentioned, and or certain action scenes

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or just just certain things that it
made it seem more mature. But then

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you have a character like Wade Whipple
that is just like, man, this

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guy is a fucking looney tune and
like no disrespect to the actor or anything,

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but just what they wanted to do
with this character not not the person

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I want to lead my show like
like this, Like at first, I

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couldn't even remember who he was at
the start of the show. I was

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like, why the fuck did the
choose this guy? That's like, okay,

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of course it's James Marsden's deputy,
which you know, he's fine in

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that deputy type role, but being
the lead, it's just it's way too

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much. It was way too much
in the first episode. And that's where

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I was like, damn, looking
up about the Mount Everest. That is

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the show that I have to climb
and get through. Even though it's only

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like less than thirty minutes of an
episode, I think they're like twenty eight

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with credits, and it's still just
felt so long to get through. It

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took me, yeah, like I
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when I first looked at him,
like, man, I can bang this

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out in too, Sadi, and
it's like easy, like maybe even one

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like this is this is such an
easy viewing. But no, the show

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did anything but that for me.
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there's a couple other type references like
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like what you just mentioned when the
cardboard cutout, but yeah, that like

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it just it seems so out of
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Yeah it it It wasn't funny.
Then that's reiterated throughout the show. Many

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different things are trying to make you
laugh with and it just was not doing

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it for me. And yeah,
I guess just we'll touch keep upon like

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the trajectory of just being in the
house. But the baseline of the narrative

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here is that Wade Whipple he gets
kicked off his bowling team, he happens

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to bump into Knuckles and then Knuckles
kind of goes on this journey with him

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and helps him kind of find his
true masculinity inside to be a warrior.

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And throughout this journey they run into
agency people trying to take knuckles power and

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all that kind of stuff, and
it all leads to bowling tournament at the

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end, and that's again the show
is made if you love bowling. This

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show is for you. It's all
about bowling, which is just crazy to

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think about, but it's it's funny. The whole bowling dynamic tournament type thing.

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It very much reminded me of Dodgeball, like the movie with you even

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got ESPN the O Show, which
is like the people covering it with like

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the newscasters, like it just seemed
very similar to Dodgeball in that sense,

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but unfortunately just not funny at all. And the newscaster guys, like I

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think they're funnier than a lot of
aspects of the show. But like,

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even that wasn't really doing a lot
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As soon as I saw it,
I just thought of Napoleon Dynamite and Rex

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Rex Kwondo's wife, Starla. That's
exactly what reminded me of just like the

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super Jack Lady. But you're wrong. There are some things with again just

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with the bowling balls and stuff like
that, Like you have a scene where

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Knuckles throws a bowling ball and all
the pins just incinerate, and then you

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have him fighting off against random humans
and he's just like just pushing him to

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the side and stuff, and I
guess he's probably withholding back, but I

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just feel like, man, these
humans should just be incinerated into dust,

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like they shouldn't be even a factor
here because this guy is just killing things.

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But that's my own little beef.
It's a kid's show, I think,

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so touching back upon like the parents
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the sister character was the fucking most
annoying character of all time. I didn't

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even think she's in the FBI,
but fuck, she was annoying. What

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did you think about that? I
completely agree. Yeah, I thought it

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was not funny at all, very
overdone. I want to say that was

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my least favorite episode, but I
feel like there's a lot of those episodes

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in this show that I just really
didn't like, but that one was just

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a lot because you have weighed with
his sister that are like just very similar,

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and again speaking personally, it's just
not funny at all. I was

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just so done with it, even
though we were like two minutes into that

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episode. So yeah, I wasn't
a fan of that whole sequence, and

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like, I don't really have any
much more to say than that, it

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just it just wasn't funny, and
I wish we focused our efforts elsewhere for

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this entire show. I just I
really wish they I wish it, like

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now, I wish they didn't even
greenlight this show, Like it just it

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seems like it does absolutely nothing for
the advancement of the storyline that is the

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Sonic movies either, Like it doesn't
even seem like if we have if we're

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comparing it to no, I wouldn't
compare you know, this to the MCU

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or anything. But like WandaVision,
it's like a great show to like bridge

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certain things in the MCU going from
a movie to a movie, which like

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you know, you don't I guess
have to see the show, but it

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is an important show to watch to
like really know fully what happens to that

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transition that gets wanted to where she
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What the fuck happened in this show
that like, if I watched Sonic

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three, I think gonna be talking
about Wade Wade whip It and his fucking

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or Whipple whatever his name is,
and his sister and those characters. I

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fucking hope not, because that's really
gonna severely uh diminish my overall thoughts on

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on the next movie. So yeah, I I it just it's so strange

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to me in hindsight of what they
were trying to do for this show.

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And yeah, no, it it
just baffles me because I it just does

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not feel like a Knuckles show at
all. It's it really does not.

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I'm sorry if I just keep repeating
myself, but it's just it's I'm so

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baffled. No, I totally agree. You get you get more focusing aspects

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and narratives just with the characters and
you do with Knuckles, And I think

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that's just a shame. I got
excited in that for a brief little bit

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at that first episode when it was
okay, Tails and Sonic and Knuckles and

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all three of them doing their own
thing. I was exciting, Yeah,

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and I was hoping that we get
a little bit more of that with again

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Wade Whipple, the human interaction and
kind of not forefront but in the background

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a little bit. But no,
we didn't. I didn't get that.

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So I think that was definitely a
missed opportunity. This was a scene that

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in the part of the house that
made me kind of laugh, but it

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was just kind of wacky, just
when the mom was looking at Knuckles and

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like knuckles protect the candles and she
just like the way they filmed it was

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cool because it was just panoramically like
rotating around the kitchen and the mom was

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just kicking the shit out of these
guys and the Knuckles was fighting too,

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and it was cool. I enjoyed
it, but yeah, then you just

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get the shitty characters, like the
sister character, when I wasn't enjoying And

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I enjoyed some moments with Wade Whipple. I think he'd definitely sold me at

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times, just being kind of like
emotional or trying to do other things,

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but for the most part, I
was not really enjoying his performance in this

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role. And it's just it's just
so outrageous, Like there's there's nothing from

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the specific episodes worth really I don't
I even say that, Like each episode

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was supposed to be focusing on continuing
towards the like going through the main narrative,

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but each little obstacle that takes place
in these episodes just it wasn't anything

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grand, it was anything important.
It didn't feel like we were gaining anything

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aside from our main guy just touching
his inner warrior inside himself Knuckles letting him

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get captured, which we'll talk about
because I was fucking bonkers. Yeah,

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justck. Yeah, it just blows
my mind. I don't know who proved

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the show. I really don't.
And the more I'm talking about this,

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more heated I'm getting when I think
about this. No, yeah, it's

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it's I'm there with you, and
yeah, like even with Knuckles too.

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I I don't know. I I
do like Idriss Alba. I think I

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think he's fantastic. Mm hmm.
Am I crazy for just saying that his

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voice, which just it just did
not work for me, like at all

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as the Knuckles voice. Maybe it's
just because like I've experienced maybe in the

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games or like the old show,
just like a different version of like a

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Knuckles human voice or human voice English
voice. I guess just like it's really

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not the voice that I would that
I would want for my knuckles. You

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know. Again, nothing against Idris, but I just think his voice is

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such a power to it that it
just Yeah, that's that's Idriss Alba,

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like that's that's Tim Deel, like
that's It's just there's certain people that their

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voice just totally cuts raight through no
matter who they're trying to portray. And

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I think he has one of those
voices for for you know, positives and

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negatives. It's a great voice with
with some power to it, but for

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an animated care like Knuckles, it
just kind of takes me out of it,

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Like it just it from that first
episode, it was just like,

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Okay, that's Idress Alba under the
voice of Knuckles, and it was just

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a little bit too grandiose for my
liking. That's probably gonna sound very snobby,

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and there's gonna be people who are
like, wow, I just Alba's

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such a great voice, how can
you think that? But no, for

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me, it just it did not
work at all. And uh, maybe

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if the show was actually about Knuckles
and we had most of the show with

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Knuckles, maybe I would have got
used to it. But I think it's

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just because he's like selectively in this
show, which is crazy to me to

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even say, because the show is
fucking called Knuckles not Whipple, that it

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should be. But no, I
for me personally, I was just not

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a fan of the voice acting for
Knuckles and yeah, sorry, I dress

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big fan of you, But no, it did not work for me at

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all here. But what do you
think about that? I definitely didn't mind

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it. Actually, I liked it
in the movie and I think it stood

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it stood out here too. His
voice and his tone really adds to the

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whole uh the for me, innocent
humor, blind humor, I guess where

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he's just very serious in these situations
and not really aware of what people are

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truly feeling around him, and I
like that, and his voice just adds

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to the warrior esque tone that he's
trying to portray, if that makes any

406
00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:23,160
kind of sense. So I was
definitely driving with it, and I thought

407
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:30,720
it worked for me quite quite well. Actually, yeah, like I feel

408
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,039
like I did like it in the
movie at the time, but then maybe

409
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,839
there was just some time in between
my last viewing of the second movie and

410
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,200
I just kind of forgot about it, and then I don't know, maybe

411
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,079
it's because he's not surrounded by like
Sonic and Tails for a lot of this

412
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,799
like they are in the first episode, which that's probably my first or sorry,

413
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,119
my probably my favorite episode because they
not just because they're in it,

414
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,680
but just because of the setup,
like like the idea of Knuckles, you

415
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,799
know, just trying to be like
in this new home and like just just

416
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:04,079
just settle into it, Like why
is that show? Why is the show

417
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:08,039
not about that? And like his
adventures of just trying to figure out what

418
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:14,039
it's like to live in in Green
Hills and you know we just we we

419
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,799
kind of just park that and uh
we fall away on how to be a

420
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:25,759
good bowler. Yeah, just Wade. This one hurts me, man,

421
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:29,200
Like this one really hurts me.
I feel like Knuckles is just such a

422
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,920
badass character. They had amazing like
posters and stuff for this show too.

423
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:38,680
The effects looked fantastic, similar to
how I like on the Halo reviews.

424
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,319
I kept saying, yeah, this
show sucks, but at least, like

425
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,039
the action looks really good. I
do think that it. It looks good

426
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:52,279
across the board, even th our
little goons with their there a kidne quill

427
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,559
weapons that they have. You got
Kid Cutty with the fists, Like,

428
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,160
I think all those effects look really
good. It's just a damn shame that

429
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,119
it's just such a sidebar to Wade's
Wade's adventure and his growth as a character.

430
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:10,279
Yeah, no, I agree,
just the moment they get into the

431
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:14,680
action where he's imagining himself being super
cool and then he pulls up in his

432
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,559
cop car and the cop car explodes
and all this thought. Man, this

433
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,240
is the kind of humor we're getting. And he just sits there while the

434
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:25,720
goons run out and like watch him, and then he blasts with his fist

435
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:27,640
gauntlet through the window. I just
all that kind of stuff, and like

436
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,920
he leaves the fist gauntlet on the
floor and goes to hide and lets the

437
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,200
villain get the gauntlet and put it
on. Ah. Just don't put that

438
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,119
guy against Thanos. Not a good
choice, No, not at all.

439
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,720
Oh my gosh, it was cool
to see the Hound from Game of Thrones

440
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:49,039
in here. Yeah. He was
a good villain, I'd say, but

441
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,039
he died very very quick. There
wasn't really much the last episode. Even

442
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,839
though it was like that twenty five
minute mark, it felt the freaking longest

443
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,799
because we had like the betrayal,
we had the bowling tournament, we had

444
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,119
the Hound coming in to fight,
and the whole final boss battle, so

445
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:12,119
there was so much going on and
I got another scene that I was kind

446
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:19,200
of chuckling and laughing at was when
pistol Pete Whipple. You recognize that actor

447
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:25,759
Princess Bride. Oh, that's who
that is. Okay, I did recognize

448
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:29,000
him. I didn't google, but
I knew i'd seen him from something.

449
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,079
But I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing
his last name right. But it's Carrie

450
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,279
Elvis. Elvis super charismatic, and
I love seeing him in this role.

451
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,680
Just he's walking around like the fancy
clothing and he's just winning at gambling and

452
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,400
everything, and he's just so full
of himself. But that's where he gave

453
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,920
me gold Member vibes, where he's
just the Austin Powers his dad. And

454
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,079
this is maybe where I feel like
it's the Austin Powers, like gold Member

455
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,720
kind of movie blending in with this
because he goes, he finds out,

456
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,880
he finds his dad, and his
dad betrays him, which was just super

457
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680
shitty, and then they end up
bowling each other anyways in the tournament,

458
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:14,400
which is crazy to think about.
Uh yeah, just a whole bunch of

459
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,279
just a whole bunch of really weird
inconsistencies and really poor story writing because the

460
00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:22,759
character development was not great, but
he was charismatic as hell and I was

461
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:28,880
enjoying that. Well it lasted.
Yeah, Like I don't think it was

462
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:38,119
bad really trying to reach for a
positive here like his outfit, I guess,

463
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,000
just like the whole betrayal thing,
like it was just so obvious that

464
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,759
it was coming. Maybe maybe I'm
wrong for thinking this, but it's just

465
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:51,720
like man like it's it just shows
how much of a fucking idiot weight is

466
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:54,799
to just be like my father that's
just betrayed my family and my mother,

467
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,480
like you know, like I just
want to have this relationship with him,

468
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:04,519
which I guess that's not an abnormal
thing like a Fortunately I'm not someone in

469
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:08,000
that in that realm that you know
their father abandoned them, which I'm sure

470
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:14,240
that's something that maybe people have definitely
aligned with that, Like doesn't matter if

471
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:16,720
they could betray you, you do
still at some point want to know like

472
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:22,200
your father and like have that bond
and relationship that you have been missing your

473
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,160
whole life. But just it just
was so like he's literally a mustache,

474
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,559
totally villain because he has the look
he's mustache. He talks, he talks

475
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:36,039
like a mustache trillly villain, and
then of course he plays exactly like a

476
00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:39,559
mustache totally villain. He betrays him
and he just fucking wants to be Pistol

477
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:45,200
Pete the Bowler, and it's just
so over the top cartoony, which I

478
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,960
feel like, Okay, they're going
for it, it should be funny for

479
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:52,119
that reason, but it just it's
not at all. It's just it did

480
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:58,759
not work for me at all.
Yeah, Like, yeah, I just

481
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,960
I don't really care for that character
at all. You mentioned yeah Sandor c

482
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:06,200
again, I think that was his
name, but the Hound from Game of

483
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,800
Thrones. I thought he was like, actually really good in this, like

484
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:14,400
all the scenes that he had he
was probably just channeling his his hound isms,

485
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,440
but he just was intimidating. I
loved his blacksmith type character look when

486
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,280
he had like the blacksmith apron with
the long beard, like he just he

487
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:29,159
definitely had the look. But also
like when he even when he was on

488
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:35,599
like the Whiplash machine, you know, channeling channeling the Iron Man too character

489
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,599
in the end when he had those
whips, like, I thought he looked

490
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:43,519
really good too when he was delivering
his lines. But yeah, no,

491
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,679
they don't do too much with that
character. He's kind of just in the

492
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,719
background for a lot of it,
and as you mentioned, he's just he

493
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,400
goes out really really quickly. Yeah, like crushed to death, Like fuck,

494
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:59,239
what a way to go. You
have like knuckles like fine in the

495
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,880
air when he does like the the
flames of disaster move and Wade just like

496
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:07,639
shoots off his his his fist thing. At first, I was like,

497
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:12,800
man, he's gonna fucking hit knuckles. Knuckles is like he's like looping around

498
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,400
to go back to the hound and
then fucking Wade's gonna just deck on.

499
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,519
But of course he doesn't. It's
like a perfect snipe to take out the

500
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:24,159
globe there. That's perfect. Yeah, So, how how did you feel

501
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:28,960
about? I guess kind of like
detouring away from that cato of bullying match.

502
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,360
Actually, one more thing on the
bulling match. The announcers they mentioned,

503
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,320
uh talking about how like, oh
an alien has has appeared and and

504
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,519
whatnot, and then yeah, now
was that supposed to be shadow? Do

505
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:44,920
you think is that what they're alluding
to because he's interesting in like held up

506
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:50,320
in a facility based on that yeah
scene, Uh, well, they said

507
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:58,280
it happened before at a bowling tournament, right, that'd be kind of well,

508
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,679
that's I don't like. I don't
think. I don't like that we're

509
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,800
centering the Sonic Universe around these bowling
events. I really don't like that.

510
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,840
I'm hoping. I mean, you're
probably right, because like, why else

511
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,920
would they say that without actually saying
someone's name because they mentioned that, you

512
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,880
know, that alien wasn't red.
I guess Shadow is red to an extent,

513
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:22,199
but he's bastly black. You might
be onto something there, and that

514
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:27,320
that makes me a little more upset. I don't like this bowling catalyst.

515
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:34,440
Why does every big event have to
be said around these the bowling I'm curious

516
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:38,639
if they'll if they'll answer that,
And maybe it won't be so bad if

517
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:43,559
it is like that event that they're
talking about, but they don't really go

518
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:45,480
into full depths on like the actual
bowling competitions, just like, yeah,

519
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:52,239
he did come to Earth in nineteen
seventy four. I still probably won't like

520
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,559
that because it will remind me of
this show. Yeah. Yeah, good

521
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:59,559
catch though, because I definitely just
kind of thought that was a throwaway line.

522
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:01,639
That's what. Yeah, I'm just
speculating that it probably has some tie

523
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:06,039
into the movie, even though it's
very vague and one that'll just go for

524
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:08,920
people's heads. But the the other
character that I feel like was just he

525
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:15,800
got a whole episode dedicated to himself
and it was a complete waste of time.

526
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:23,480
Was God, what is what was
his actual name? Oh yeah,

527
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,480
Jacksonclair bounty hunter. He had the
long hair. He was Wade's friend.

528
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:37,039
Uh, we got a whole episode
where he basically last sus Wade and drags

529
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:42,760
him for who knows how long,
tasers him and then throws him in this

530
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:47,119
weird cage where it's like arrows pointing
down and says like you've been caught by

531
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,559
Jack Sinclair bounty Hunter and the cage
is like electrocuted and whatnot. And he's

532
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:55,519
writing in a hummer with this little
girl and her parents to the bowling champion,

533
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:59,920
Like it's just this is what kind
of writing is this? It's fun.

534
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,840
I feel like the first time I
actually laughed in the show was that

535
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,360
opening when he's like, it's gonna
be a good day and then he just

536
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,519
gets last last oed and just dragged
down the street. I think it was

537
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:14,480
the shock humor, Like I just
wasn't expecting it and then it was just

538
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,760
so fucking random, which a lot
of the show is, but that one

539
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:21,440
it actually got me. I kind
of chuckled a little bit. It ended,

540
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,039
you know, once Jackson Clair actually
had him, because then they do

541
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:29,039
this taze thing and I'm not like
super nitpicky when it comes like continuity type

542
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:30,880
things, but they like tase them. As soon as they tas them,

543
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,760
he like puts his arms up in
the air and he's like oh, and

544
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,519
then the next shot his arms are
like as if it's like almost would be

545
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:42,760
a realistic tase, Like he's just
like stiff and his arms are down by

546
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,679
his side. But it's just like, this is fucking garbage. Get this

547
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,519
shit off my television right now.
That's how pissed off I was in those

548
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:53,159
moments. But uh yeah, and
actually, I you know, to admit,

549
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,320
I actually laughed at another part of
that moment. That was when they

550
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,599
do the duel and he drives off
and he's like, you gotta have a

551
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,960
vehicle. You just can't hear him. I actually chuckled at that, and

552
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,400
I was a little bit upset with
myself from chucklay back, like this is

553
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,000
so fucking stupid, but this is
actually kind of funny because, yeah,

554
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,039
that happens so much in shows where
they're like thirty meters away from each other

555
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:19,719
and they're like just just talking,
like probably quieter than how I'm talking right

556
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,400
now, and then they can just
hear each other perfectly fine, But in

557
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:28,000
that instance, they couldn't hear each
other. And uh, hate to admit

558
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:31,679
it, but it actually got me
that that was actually quite funny. Well,

559
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,199
I'll share some of my thoughts right
after this ad break and we're back,

560
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,280
So I, yeah, I kind
of chuckled a few things with this

561
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,920
scene too, with the duel,
but the fact that like he challenges him

562
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,800
to a duel, like again,
it's so it's unrealistic because Wade like blasts

563
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,599
through the roof of this cart as
the vehicle is moving down the freeway and

564
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,920
lands, and it's like, is
he a superhero? Where did this power

565
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,239
come from? I don't get it? But he lands all ca usually and

566
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:07,000
then he challenges Jackson Clair to a
duel, and so Jackson Clair like does

567
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,880
a backflip up onto the roof of
the Hummer limo where the motorcycle is,

568
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:16,239
and he pulls out dual katanas and
it's like these were forged the shop blades

569
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,119
on the earth and like throws one
and it lends right next to Wade.

570
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:22,239
It's like, okay, we're really
getting cuckoo eyed here. He rides the

571
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,119
motorbike off the hummer and that's when, yeah, you're part here when he

572
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:30,920
zooms away in a vehicle and then
Wade gets the fucking little kid's bike,

573
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:36,639
cuts off Jackson Claire's hair, makes
him stripped down and then he just like

574
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,480
runs off like kind of crying with
his hair cut off. And then like

575
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:45,199
the mom was like the mom of
Little Girl Sluzy Suzi was like, yeah,

576
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,599
kill kill him or execute him or
finish him or whatnot. And you

577
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,840
got the weird scene of Jackson Clair
in the limo with the parents and making

578
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,480
them like forcibly like play karaoke like
it's just weird. Yeah, shit,

579
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:01,199
that was that was hard to get
through. That was like a nearly fast

580
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,599
forward type moment, which did happen
to me a couple times throughout this show.

581
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:08,400
I will admit there was a couple
of moments maybe the musical episode that

582
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,599
was that was one I actually had
to fast forward through. I was like,

583
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,519
Nope, not doing this, Let's
get out of here. That was

584
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:21,480
a rough That was a rough one. Can you get Jackson Claire just being

585
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,840
one of the Owls people? Whatnot? Like I can get that they were

586
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,599
trying to go for something magical here, but that in the first Sonic movie

587
00:41:29,639 --> 00:41:32,079
when you get that flashback of young
Sonic and you get them just like him

588
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:37,000
in his world and you get the
Owls and like the you get all the

589
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,559
different like actual characters. They should
have done that for this flashback when instid

590
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:46,800
of a Wade Whipple wearing a Wild
Knuckles costume re enacting this whole thing.

591
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:52,320
Uh oh yeah, no, the
not a fan of the musical sequence.

592
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,599
I just yeah, I wasn't a
fan of the overall choice of just have

593
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,159
this all this focus on way,
Like why do you not have Knuckles go

594
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,199
through a similar type moment like that
since the show is called Knuckles and maybe

595
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:09,239
maybe he needs to find some inner
strength, But no, let's just focus

596
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,639
on the Bowler, who I guarantee
is not gonna be a fucking main character

597
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,320
in the next movie. So like, what a fucking waste of time that

598
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:22,119
was? God damn I hate that. Um yeah, nothing really else to

599
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,719
say on that. I'll show another
another moment that actually made me laugh.

600
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:32,719
I'm trying to go off my positive
list here when we have I think it's

601
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:38,519
episode five, when we have Wade
confront his father and he has Knuckles in

602
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:43,559
his ear. Most of it didn't, you know, like most of it

603
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:46,280
wasn't really working for humor wise,
whether it was just like Knuckles deadpan,

604
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,000
like very literal way of speaking,
and then Wade was copying it. But

605
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:52,639
it caught me when he just was
all of a sudden, He's like,

606
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,400
what is that magnificent thing that I'm
looking at? And like when you actually

607
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,719
see it's literally just Knuckles looking at
like the cost echidna. And another moment

608
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,639
that was just not what I was
expecting at all, and it actually just

609
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:07,199
made me laugh out loud. I
thought it was I thought it was great.

610
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,760
I thought that was a really funny
moment. There's another moment in the

611
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,079
in the finale episode when Knuckles is
at the bar just chilling and like a

612
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:20,360
dude in a blue costume comes up. Doesn't quite look like a hedgehog at

613
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,480
all. I guess the the other
Knuckles one wasn't quite an echidna either,

614
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:29,440
But yeah, no, that it
was just just a couple of funny moments.

615
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,000
I think specifically when Knuckles first sees
the guy in the red costume and

616
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:37,559
he's like, what are you supposed
to be? He's like, I'm an

617
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:43,920
echidna. He's like, oh nice
from Alabama. Go kidnas. Like it

618
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,440
was just so fucking stupid, But
I don't know, maybe it made me

619
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:50,800
laugh because it was actually Knuckles the
one interacting with it, not Wade trying

620
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,840
to be over the top and ridiculous. And see, I think that's one

621
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,079
of the things that this show,
well it obviously needed, but how much

622
00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:00,159
more successful this show would have been
if it had more of that is sprinkled

623
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:06,840
throughout the show consistently instead of the
forced humor coming off of Wade and Wade's

624
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,320
interactions with other characters. Like if
I had Knuckles interacting with Jackson Clair,

625
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,320
that seemed would have been much better. I would it would have been totally

626
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:17,880
more kelliable, Like great, So
it's just missed opportunities, it really really

627
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,800
is. I yeah, Like,
is the reason why they just they didn't

628
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,480
want to pay to like animate Knuckles
for an entire show? Is that why?

629
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,360
If that's the case, do a
four episode show, do a three

630
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,880
episode short series on just knuckles trying
to fit in with this new world or

631
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:42,599
find his home, like a big
apologies to what's his name? I had

632
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,639
the name Adam Pally for kind of
just shitting on your performance here, but

633
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,199
hopefully it wasn't all you. I'm
really blaming the writers of this and just

634
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,599
the overall showrunners and everything it just
because it clearly isn't just this guy,

635
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,599
because I didn't like pretty much any
of the human characters at all. I

636
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:05,079
love Kid Kid Cutty's music, but
man, he was pretty fucking bad and

637
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,320
the show Uh if you know that
was the guy with the fists, Okay,

638
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:15,639
okay, Uh, Christopher Lloyd was
actually in this as uh pack packa

639
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:22,079
kamac the like the elder. Did
you catch that? Oh you froze or

640
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:29,800
I froze? One of us froze. Uh so I'm gonna say you didn't

641
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,719
catch that, and uh, just
keep moving on. Then I thought he

642
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:40,599
was I thought he was great.
What else can I say here? Yeah,

643
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:50,400
Jackson Claire already covered Gary in s
to Claire, Oh there you are,

644
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,679
all right, Christopher Lloyd. That
was such a funny pause moment.

645
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:58,920
I was like, Christopher Lloyd is
in here. As uh pack Aamac.

646
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:00,800
I'm like, Tater, what do
you think about that? And you were

647
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:06,639
just I just didn't care. Apparently
that was hype. Though I love Christopher

648
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:14,880
Lloyd. Yeah, he's great.
I really don't have any other It's unfortunate.

649
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,360
My last note actually, because you
reminded me of that character Pack of

650
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,480
my Lac. Very weird how he
was they were trying to do like the

651
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,119
ghost thing, because yeah, he
like can touch knuckles or hug him,

652
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:28,480
but then he couldn't go through the
ceiling as he's a ghost. I don't

653
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,679
know. It was weird, but
they're trying to make it humorous. I

654
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:38,239
got nothing else to add aside from
just my pure disappointment in this show and

655
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,960
that I would not recommend it.
I told Travis, like, even on

656
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,719
a rainy day, you don't need
to watch this with your kids. It's

657
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,079
not really even four kids. I
don't know. I tried to rope them

658
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:52,960
in, you know, saying that
we delayed the episode for him. It's

659
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,960
it's a truly awful show, and
he already hates musicals, and of course

660
00:46:57,159 --> 00:47:00,280
in this truly awful show, there's
a musical sequence in it that, uh,

661
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,599
that's like the quadruple whammy. Jravis
hates musicals. Yeah, wow,

662
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:07,559
he probably said that. I don't
think I'm putting words in his mouth,

663
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:14,000
but he always says it's just like
the like the heightened reality type, noess

664
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:16,119
of it. He can never get
behind, like it just doesn't really jive

665
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:20,760
with him, which doesn't make sense
because he loves Yeah, that's Lane,

666
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,480
I think is the exception. But
like I love any other musical. Yeah,

667
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:30,239
it's good. It's curious, curious, but maybe should ask him next

668
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,960
time we see him so that I'm
not just putting words in his mouth.

669
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,840
But I'm pretty sure he's not a
fan of musicals, right. I pulled

670
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:45,159
up the cast list and Paul Sheer
he was one of the broadcasters for the

671
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:50,760
bowling competition. Really, his character's
name was Gary in Sinclair. You think

672
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,800
he's relating to Jackson calle Man.
I don't know. Did they mention anything

673
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,400
about that in the show? Did
I miss that? No? I mean

674
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,559
I don't think so. Okay,
it's definitely not Laura. I'm going to

675
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,119
look up after this review. I
can tell you that, yeah, yeah,

676
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:13,800
that's a that's fair. I will
not either. Closing thoughts. Closing

677
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:19,199
thoughts, I regret signing up for
this review. It was truly a slog

678
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,960
to get through. I don't think
I would have made through or made it

679
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,360
through if they were like hour long
episodes, or if this was like a

680
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,960
twelve episode season. I don't think
I would have been able to do it.

681
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,679
Honestly, I think I was right
about by episode two. I felt

682
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:37,159
bad because you had watched it kind
of before me, and I was like,

683
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:39,039
why did I not start this like
Friday so then I could just like

684
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:43,639
right away be like Taylor. Now
I can't do it. This show is

685
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:49,760
too awful. But major bummer,
major major bummer. I think that I

686
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,119
don't even really want to say there's
potential with the show. I think that

687
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:55,039
they should have just burnt the whole
script and really rethink what they were trying

688
00:48:55,039 --> 00:49:00,920
to do here, and if budgetary
made us just focus on Wade, this

689
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:06,239
human character, do a two episode, do a fucking one episode, or

690
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,280
do a complete short film on just
Knuckles trying to fit in here, release

691
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,079
it on Paramount Plus, animate it
beautifully and just just let it be.

692
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:17,679
I think that would have been such
a better avenue, because this isn't just

693
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,480
a forgettable show. This is a
show that I'm gonna truly go out of

694
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:27,920
my way to tell people to not
watch or or just yeah this. Hopefully

695
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,800
I forget about it. I don't
want to be living on with hate in

696
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,079
my mind. But I truly hate
the show. I think I'll give it.

697
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,400
I think I'll give it a one
out of ten, not zero out

698
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,039
of ten. There was enough in
there, but yeah, I like,

699
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:44,639
this is definitely one of the worst
shows I've seen. I mean, I

700
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:50,400
mentioned it. It made me like
Halo more than what was shown there.

701
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,920
Yeah, no, I apologize anyone. If you made it this far of

702
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:58,559
us just ranting on this episode and
you did like it, make sure to

703
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:02,199
let us know because I want to
what youth saw that I didn't and who

704
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,119
knows, Like, like, maybe
it it is just certain people aligned with

705
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:12,280
the Wade character, Like did you
ever see macgroober? Oh god I was.

706
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:15,800
I didn't like that. Yeah,
I forgot, I forget, I

707
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,800
forget the lad's name that was the
lead in that. But uh, like

708
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,320
I like that type of humor.
It reminds me of this where it's just

709
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:29,119
super goofy, which I sometimes enjoy. But like, I didn't like mcgroober.

710
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,079
I didn't like this, I don't
know. It's and like the like

711
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:37,280
mcgruber is is for like mature audiences
more so than what this would be I

712
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,639
would imagine. But just the like
the super goofiness was just it was way

713
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:45,719
too much for me. I just
couldnot handle it. But uh, yeah,

714
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,920
so I do not recommend the show, and I really really really hope

715
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,599
that the next movie is much better. I am hopeful just for the fact

716
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:59,039
that it is a full movie.
So I think we're not going to be

717
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:02,960
following the adventure of Wade or James
Marsden. I think his character name was

718
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,760
Tom in the movies, So I
don't want to like think that this show

719
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,760
would deter me from it. It's
just this is what we got for the

720
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:19,079
Paramount show, and uh it's a
big, big bummer. Yeah, so

721
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,920
I feel like we're pretty similar on
a lot of these thoughts here. I

722
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,280
don't enjoy this show. I'm already
telling people, don't waste your time with

723
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,239
this. I think that it's a
missed opportunity. They should have been focusing

724
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,280
on Knuckles much much more as a
character, and they could have really hit

725
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,199
some notes really really high if they
did. Just that, I think that

726
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,679
there was so many things that just
leave me asking questions, and so many

727
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:44,519
things that it just don't make sense. Is this a kid shows? This

728
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:49,079
an adult show. Certain jokes that
just don't fit in what they're trying to

729
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:52,000
do, and just total acts of
randomness. I think your mcgroober comment is

730
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:59,480
very spot on. So overall,
I'm gonna give this show probably ah again,

731
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:02,920
some things some really really low rankings, but like I'd probably go uh

732
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:07,880
two out of ten to be honest, I there's nothing pulled me back.

733
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:13,559
I'm giving it two points because there
was some kookiness that I really I laughed

734
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:16,519
at and I thought it was it
was okay, and the stuff with Knuckles

735
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:21,480
and his fight scenes, I enjoyed
that a lot. But for the most

736
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,960
part, there's not much going on
here. The human character stuff isn't the

737
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,079
same as what they were doing with
the movies, and this is just too

738
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:31,840
quirky crazy that it's it's so far
fetched that I wasn't wasn't enjoying it.

739
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,320
I like the quirky craziness that they
were doing with Robotnik in the first and

740
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,480
second movies. I think those were
a lot more in line. And yeah,

741
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:43,920
this is just this is something else. So I don't recommend watching the

742
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,039
show. That's all I'm gonna say. And uh, yeah, there you

743
00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:55,159
have it comes up. Yeah,
so yeah, unless there's anything else you

744
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:59,199
have, that's it. We're gonna
we're gonna close it off there and go

745
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,320
cray myself to sleep because this is
pretty depressing. Don't watch this in the

746
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,360
morning either, if you if you
are not convinced with what we've said and

747
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,920
you're planning to watch it, don't
watch it in the morning, and don't

748
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:15,039
watch it an night. Yeah.
I definitely passed out watching this one Sunday

749
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:16,400
evening. I was like, Oh, I'm gonna finish the show. It's

750
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,559
gonna be great. Next thing I
know. It was like three in the

751
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:22,239
morning. Oh, didn't even get
through a full episode. I'm like,

752
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,519
man, this sucks because now I
have to watch this tomorrow, Like like

753
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:30,280
that was the worst part about it. It's like, gotta take more time

754
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,280
out of my day to watch this
instead of just powering through it. But

755
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,519
that's a horrible feeling. Like at
three am and you're not even finished through

756
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:38,639
the Knuckles show. Oh man,
Sunday too, like going into a Monday,

757
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,760
I'd like get up, brush my
teeth, and like fucking put dishes

758
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:49,719
away, like I was just so
bummed. Oh that's horrible. Yeah,

759
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,719
all right, Well we'll be back
with our X Men ninety seven review,

760
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,800
and I will be back. Actually, I believe the Bad Batch season three

761
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,760
finale is this week as well,
so to that and then maybe and that's

762
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,440
right, that's right, and maybe
Kirkland, maybe you'll be there for Tales

763
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,480
of the Empire review? Is that
this weekend? This Friday? Hell yeah,

764
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:13,280
Friday. Sign me up, Johnny, let's crush it. Okay,

765
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,400
I'm going to hold you to that. Yeah, Sunday night, waking up

766
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,400
at three three in the morning,
be like, is that supposed to do

767
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,079
something? No, I'm excited for
that. Al trailer got me super hyped,

768
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,840
did I'm going to hear that stuff. Well, ladies and gentlemen,

769
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:32,280
thank you for tuning in. This
episode of Keeper's podcast will be back soon,

770
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:38,119
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