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let's I mean, let's let's get into knuckles now. I mean you can
kind of give like a brief overall. I don't know if you watched were
you there for the reviews of the other two films, I was thank you
for remembering that. But yeah, that was the famous one where I think
it was Umi travel on Sonic two or was it just you and me?
I think it was you me. Maybe it was just you and me a
long time ago apparently, But no, that that was the one that I
actually missed the end credit scene, and you guys were telling me about it,
and I think I was like mentioning him like man shadow, like he's
got to be in the next film, right. Well, you you clearly
didn't see the end credits. No, I I've seen both of them.
Big Sonic fan. Sega Genesis was I think my favorite or my first console
ever had as a wee young lad. So of course I had a couple
of Sonic games on there, and I watched the TV show back in the
day. I remember watching the movies, like the old two D style animation,
and I just I don't know, he's just a character that just really
really, I don't know, just I just really grew fond of. I
feel like just his quirky personality, the chili dog eater, you know,
big blue fan. So of course he's all blue there. But no,
I always love Sonic growing up, and I feel like I I quite enjoy
those movies as well, Like I kind of know what I'm getting into when
I watch them. I think I think I like them like the most the
first time I saw them. Maybe I like them a little bit less after
that, but now, like when I revisit it now, because I just
know what to expect, like I'm still able to have a good time in
there. I like the soundtrack. I like, you know, our our
Sonic heroes, and James Marsden is he's a good enough human compatriot with with
our heroes, unlike you know, mister mister Whipple for Knuckles here, but
no, I quite like the character of Sonic and just kind of like the
universe that's in it. I feel like the games, you know, they
do go more into I guess the Sonic lore, but for like, it's
nothing too deep. So I feel like, although I have played a lot
of the games, I have seen a lot of those shows and stuff,
and in my memory that they're just kind of like one off adventures. I'm
not thinking of like some big multiversal combination type universe connections, you know,
we're all all that stuff. I don't know where I was going with that,
but so yeah, I feel like I am pretty positive overall on it.
Coming into the Knuckles show, I was quite looking forward to it,
just because Knuckles is a really sweet character, you know, he's like the
badass and in my mind of the Sonic heroes, and I don't know,
I just feel like the animation around the characters looks really good, and especially
in the Sonic movies, like when he's using his powers and stuff, like,
I think all of that looks great. So I'm like, yeah,
give us a show with Knuckles like that sounds fantastic. I didn't really know
what I was getting into, clearly because I think we're getting close to the
episode drops. And I think it was maybe Travis that had asked me if
I was getting ready for I'm like, oh, yeah, no, I
can't wait. It's gonna be super exciting. And he mentioned that there's like,
yeah, it's like apparently mostly following like the human guy and like Knuckles
is not in as much as maybe you would hope, And that was kind
of like an immediate red flag. I was like, I feel like I
should have known that. Maybe I just really steered away from the trailers and
looking into any information about it. I was just like, yeah, if
it's like the Sonic movies, like it's gotta be it's gotta be good enough,
right, And uh, man, was I in for a rude awakening
episode one? Like oh man, it was we even have Sonic and and
Tails in there, but like they lost me half like not even I don't
think halfway through the first episode. By the second episode, that's where I
was like, man, why did I not like do more research and tell
Taylor that I maybe don't want to do this review. This was this was
a journey and not not a pleasant one. This was a really hard show
to get through, and yeah, I just it was just not for me,
which is which is unfortunate because I feel like amongst the podcasts, I
mean, you're pretty positive on the song film, but I feel like I'm
maybe like the number one Sonic head and I was. I was out pretty
darn early in the show. I made it through, obviously because we're here
to talk about the entire season, which is the first episode and a half.
But no, this was a big, big disappointment and really did the
opposite effect of what you would want from the show leading into like the next
Sonic movie. It kind of killed my hype. I don't think that this
will be what the next Sonic movie is, but it's just it didn't do
much to get my juices flowing and like want the next project. Now.
It's just like, well, it's got to be better than this. Not
so much of like maybe if it was a really nice, positive show,
at least for my own thoughts, it could have been like I can't wait
for that next movie, but I can currently wait for this movie, especially
there's certain characters coming back. Yeah, yeah, humor was really wasn't great
for me. I was even mentioned our messaging Taylor and just like, man,
like, what is the show? Who's the target audience for this show?
Because the humor, like it might be similar to the Sonic movies,
But I think it's just because our main lead is just really not a funny
guy in my mind. So it's just a lot of goofy humor that was
not working for me at all, and it made these thirty minute episodes feel
extremely extremely long. Yeah, that this was certainly a slog to get through.
And yeah, one of the one of the absolute worst shows I think
I've ever seen in my life. So that is very very low price.
Yeah, I don't know. I think I'll leave it there for my general
thoughts starting very low and negative. But hey, that's that's what the show
did for me, but maybe a little bit different. So I kind of
went on tangent there. Taylor maybe can give you your history of that's.
Yeah, that's the kidnap rough. So for me, I I do love
Sonic. I missed out on the genus this era. I did not get
involved with that. For me. My Sonic days were Game Boy Advance.
I had the characters for that. I loved playing Sonic on that that was
my jam. I always remember, even though I beat the game many many
times, and funny enough afterwards when I wasn't really playing on game Boy anymore,
and I still have it on my phone because I really really like it.
But I got I got Sonic one and Sonic two, the full games
Get on a Mile, which is great, that's fantastic, and they have
like all DLC in there too, a multiple characters. But getting to Knuckles
has always been such a challenge because you had always I think at the chaos
um rolls to actually unlock him with tails I think was just beating the game
and you get him. But the Knuckles is who I really wanted to play
as, and he was always so hard to get. But these characters,
I really love them. And the movies Jim Carrey being Botnik was fantastic.
I love that, and the movies really just they hit home for me.
I always had a good time watched the first one, in that second one,
and then I I went in with a very strong level of optimism coming
to the show. Well, I was apprehensive with I think the first trailer,
I think was it the first trailer. One of the trailers brought me
back because I just liked Knuckle's innocent humor where he's talking very warrior like,
and the show seemed like, hits well, it's regular Earth, there's nothing
like this. Just his lifestyle doesn't mesh well, and I thought, Okay,
maybe there will be some chemistry here that really works out well and humorously,
the humor did not work for me in this show at all. It
was it was weird, like I in an unsexualized version of Austin Powers.
I feel like this is that's the same vibe to some slight degree in a
very weird way. So yeah, this the show did not do it for
me. It really really disappointed me. There were some parts that I was
laughing, but not laughing because of the humor. I was just laughing like
this is ridiculous, Like what is going on. I'm glad these episodes half
hour because I watched the first. It was Saturday morning and I watched the
first episode and I thought, okay, like I'm done for now. That
was that was a slog I don't know, And so Sunday morning came around
that I thought, okay, I need to just like push through and get
these done. And luckily it is really less than three hours when you think
about six episodes like twenty five minutes each without credits included, so you can
really kind of like push through if you need to. I don't think that
this is gonna have any real major impact on the movie. I think the
third movie is gonna be very, very different. I think that I think
that there was a couple of nods in here towards what we might see with
the fourth movie. But yeah, there's just there's some stuff that they just
like you said, what are they doing with this show? Who are they
making this show for? Because it's clearly not for kids, clearly not for
adults. It's just the writing was very very bad, and I never had
a problem with it. But then Travis kept on like saying it again and
again, like, oh, every movie or shows using like I Need a
Hero that song, and now like it's very prominent in my mind when when
it's used and they used it in this show, I thought, man,
why are they using this show? It just it seems like it's a cop
out. Now you gotta space it out. But the show is not,
Uh it's not the worst show I've seen in my life, but it's definitely
not what I'm going to rush back to watch not something that's really high on
the total poll either for me of rankings. So but you would rewatch it,
there's a gun in my head. I would. So I hope that
date never comes, don't I I on either? Yeah? Geezh yeah,
I got I got nothing else like an ad aside from just having questions.
So I'm gonna throw to you when we get the spoilers. I'd love to
hear your questions. I think I have questions also for you. It's okay.
It's interesting. I was while watching this, like especially finishing off the
last episode finished off last night, and I was just thinking, I'm like,
man, maybe Halo wasn't so bad, you know, Like that's the
level of enjoyment I got out of this show was It was making me rethink
Halo and being like, you know, maybe there's some good stuff in that
show that like I actually like, didn't mind too much and it doesn't bother
me. Like I would definitely rewatch both seasons of Halo before I would ever
watch this show again. It which is crazy because I feel like I have
more nostalgia for Sonic than I do in the Halo universe, Like I didn't
experience Halo, you know, at such a young age, Like I remember
going over a friend's house the first time I played Halo, Whereas like Sonic
was literally like the first game system that I had on the Sega Genesis,
and I can't remember if it was Sonic two or three, but like the
game opens up when you're super Sonic and then Knuckles comes in and just like
fucks you up and takes over the the like chaos Emeralds, and I'm just
like, who is this guy? Like like who is that hedgehog? Not
knowing that he's not actually a hedgehogs he's in a kidnap. But no,
there's it's wild because even like the Sonicy type lore stuff. I remember mentioning
this. I can't remember if it was the first movie review or the second,
but like in that movie, I was wanting more of like the actual
Sonic characters type stuff, right like like they give us a glimpse of their
world and just like, man, just give me that movie. This this
TV show had even less than what like the movies had of that stuff.
It was literally like I shouldn't even be called Knuckles, it should literally be
called like the Whipple The Whipple Show with with like knuckles somewhere in there.
He was just such a side character in this overall show. But yeah,
no, and you mentioned the music. I don't even like hate the songs
that they that they chose for this, but I just felt like they were
so oddly placed. Like even the theme song. I don't know what that
song is called something in the Warrior, but yeah, it just it felt
like like an end credit like song, like like a I would play in
the credits, versus like an intro like it just didn't. I don't know,
I'm just kind of ranting here, but it just seemed like any any
little thing that they had done, whether it was like the intro, the
the outro, things like that, I was just like, this just irritates
me. I'm so mad that they went with this choice here. And they
definitely had the copyrighted music, as you're mentioning, just like the reuse songs.
It just it did nothing to lift the certain action scenes when they would
try to choose certain songs in there. But yeah, I don't know I
hijacked your overall thoughts because I don't know, Yeah, it's not what you
said. Yeah, well, unlet's you have anything else you want to add.
We can take a quick ad break and then we can get into spoilers.
So we will be right back and we are back. So I have
a place that I kind of want to just touch upon. If you have
a specific place you want to go, we can go there. No,
I want you to take me somewhere I need to. So this show was
it wasn't sexualized anyway, but there was a scene where Knuckles is in with
Wade's bedroom, childhood bedroom, and he uncovers this cardboard stand up and there's
like what is this white stuff all over like the shoulders, all of the
edges, and like what are they insinuating here? Like he ejaculated all over
him because he's super embarrassed and flustered that that Actually it didn't really I feel
like I didn't really think too much about it at the time because I was
just so checked out. But yeah, no, that's that's a great observation
because to our question earlier, like was the show for if there's like references
like that, it's clearly not like Super Youngin's and there's even like a certain
action here, it's clearly not for like a super kitty type type humor of
a show, but it seems like they had mature type stuff with it,
like other your sexual innuendo reference you just mentioned, and or certain action scenes
or just just certain things that it made it seem more mature. But then
you have a character like Wade Whipple that is just like, man, this
guy is a fucking looney tune and like no disrespect to the actor or anything,
but just what they wanted to do with this character not not the person
I want to lead my show like like this, Like at first, I
couldn't even remember who he was at the start of the show. I was
like, why the fuck did the choose this guy? That's like, okay,
of course it's James Marsden's deputy, which you know, he's fine in
that deputy type role, but being the lead, it's just it's way too
much. It was way too much in the first episode. And that's where
I was like, damn, looking up about the Mount Everest. That is
the show that I have to climb and get through. Even though it's only
like less than thirty minutes of an episode, I think they're like twenty eight
with credits, and it's still just felt so long to get through. It
took me, yeah, like I think three instances to get going. And
when I first looked at him, like, man, I can bang this
out in too, Sadi, and it's like easy, like maybe even one
like this is this is such an easy viewing. But no, the show
did anything but that for me. But yeah, no, I feel like
there's a couple other type references like that, not so like straight your face
like what you just mentioned when the cardboard cutout, but yeah, that like
it just it seems so out of place and not actually funny at all.
Yeah it it It wasn't funny. Then that's reiterated throughout the show. Many
different things are trying to make you laugh with and it just was not doing
it for me. And yeah, I guess just we'll touch keep upon like
the trajectory of just being in the house. But the baseline of the narrative
here is that Wade Whipple he gets kicked off his bowling team, he happens
to bump into Knuckles and then Knuckles kind of goes on this journey with him
and helps him kind of find his true masculinity inside to be a warrior.
And throughout this journey they run into agency people trying to take knuckles power and
all that kind of stuff, and it all leads to bowling tournament at the
end, and that's again the show is made if you love bowling. This
show is for you. It's all about bowling, which is just crazy to
think about, but it's it's funny. The whole bowling dynamic tournament type thing.
It very much reminded me of Dodgeball, like the movie with you even
got ESPN the O Show, which is like the people covering it with like
the newscasters, like it just seemed very similar to Dodgeball in that sense,
but unfortunately just not funny at all. And the newscaster guys, like I
think they're funnier than a lot of aspects of the show. But like,
even that wasn't really doing a lot for me when we mentioned the cutout.
As soon as I saw it, I just thought of Napoleon Dynamite and Rex
Rex Kwondo's wife, Starla. That's exactly what reminded me of just like the
super Jack Lady. But you're wrong. There are some things with again just
with the bowling balls and stuff like that, Like you have a scene where
Knuckles throws a bowling ball and all the pins just incinerate, and then you
have him fighting off against random humans and he's just like just pushing him to
the side and stuff, and I guess he's probably withholding back, but I
just feel like, man, these humans should just be incinerated into dust,
like they shouldn't be even a factor here because this guy is just killing things.
But that's my own little beef. It's a kid's show, I think,
so touching back upon like the parents House, the Mom's house. So
the sister character was the fucking most annoying character of all time. I didn't
even think she's in the FBI, but fuck, she was annoying. What
did you think about that? I completely agree. Yeah, I thought it
was not funny at all, very overdone. I want to say that was
my least favorite episode, but I feel like there's a lot of those episodes
in this show that I just really didn't like, but that one was just
a lot because you have weighed with his sister that are like just very similar,
and again speaking personally, it's just not funny at all. I was
just so done with it, even though we were like two minutes into that
episode. So yeah, I wasn't a fan of that whole sequence, and
like, I don't really have any much more to say than that, it
just it just wasn't funny, and I wish we focused our efforts elsewhere for
this entire show. I just I really wish they I wish it, like
now, I wish they didn't even greenlight this show, Like it just it
seems like it does absolutely nothing for the advancement of the storyline that is the
Sonic movies either, Like it doesn't even seem like if we have if we're
comparing it to no, I wouldn't compare you know, this to the MCU
or anything. But like WandaVision, it's like a great show to like bridge
certain things in the MCU going from a movie to a movie, which like
you know, you don't I guess have to see the show, but it
is an important show to watch to like really know fully what happens to that
transition that gets wanted to where she is by the start of Multiverse of Madness.
What the fuck happened in this show that like, if I watched Sonic
three, I think gonna be talking about Wade Wade whip It and his fucking
or Whipple whatever his name is, and his sister and those characters. I
fucking hope not, because that's really gonna severely uh diminish my overall thoughts on
on the next movie. So yeah, I I it just it's so strange
to me in hindsight of what they were trying to do for this show.
And yeah, no, it it just baffles me because I it just does
not feel like a Knuckles show at all. It's it really does not.
I'm sorry if I just keep repeating myself, but it's just it's I'm so
baffled. No, I totally agree. You get you get more focusing aspects
and narratives just with the characters and you do with Knuckles, And I think
that's just a shame. I got excited in that for a brief little bit
at that first episode when it was okay, Tails and Sonic and Knuckles and
all three of them doing their own thing. I was exciting, Yeah,
and I was hoping that we get a little bit more of that with again
Wade Whipple, the human interaction and kind of not forefront but in the background
a little bit. But no, we didn't. I didn't get that.
So I think that was definitely a missed opportunity. This was a scene that
in the part of the house that made me kind of laugh, but it
was just kind of wacky, just when the mom was looking at Knuckles and
like knuckles protect the candles and she just like the way they filmed it was
cool because it was just panoramically like rotating around the kitchen and the mom was
just kicking the shit out of these guys and the Knuckles was fighting too,
and it was cool. I enjoyed it, but yeah, then you just
get the shitty characters, like the sister character, when I wasn't enjoying And
I enjoyed some moments with Wade Whipple. I think he'd definitely sold me at
times, just being kind of like emotional or trying to do other things,
but for the most part, I was not really enjoying his performance in this
role. And it's just it's just so outrageous, Like there's there's nothing from
the specific episodes worth really I don't I even say that, Like each episode
was supposed to be focusing on continuing towards the like going through the main narrative,
but each little obstacle that takes place in these episodes just it wasn't anything
grand, it was anything important. It didn't feel like we were gaining anything
aside from our main guy just touching his inner warrior inside himself Knuckles letting him
get captured, which we'll talk about because I was fucking bonkers. Yeah,
justck. Yeah, it just blows my mind. I don't know who proved
the show. I really don't. And the more I'm talking about this,
more heated I'm getting when I think about this. No, yeah, it's
it's I'm there with you, and yeah, like even with Knuckles too.
I I don't know. I I do like Idriss Alba. I think I
think he's fantastic. Mm hmm. Am I crazy for just saying that his
voice, which just it just did not work for me, like at all
as the Knuckles voice. Maybe it's just because like I've experienced maybe in the
games or like the old show, just like a different version of like a
Knuckles human voice or human voice English voice. I guess just like it's really
not the voice that I would that I would want for my knuckles. You
know. Again, nothing against Idris, but I just think his voice is
such a power to it that it just Yeah, that's that's Idriss Alba,
like that's that's Tim Deel, like that's It's just there's certain people that their
voice just totally cuts raight through no matter who they're trying to portray. And
I think he has one of those voices for for you know, positives and
negatives. It's a great voice with with some power to it, but for
an animated care like Knuckles, it just kind of takes me out of it,
Like it just it from that first episode, it was just like,
Okay, that's Idress Alba under the voice of Knuckles, and it was just
a little bit too grandiose for my liking. That's probably gonna sound very snobby,
and there's gonna be people who are like, wow, I just Alba's
such a great voice, how can you think that? But no, for
me, it just it did not work at all. And uh, maybe
if the show was actually about Knuckles and we had most of the show with
Knuckles, maybe I would have got used to it. But I think it's
just because he's like selectively in this show, which is crazy to me to
even say, because the show is fucking called Knuckles not Whipple, that it
should be. But no, I for me personally, I was just not
a fan of the voice acting for Knuckles and yeah, sorry, I dress
big fan of you, But no, it did not work for me at
all here. But what do you think about that? I definitely didn't mind
it. Actually, I liked it in the movie and I think it stood
it stood out here too. His voice and his tone really adds to the
whole uh the for me, innocent humor, blind humor, I guess where
he's just very serious in these situations and not really aware of what people are
truly feeling around him, and I like that, and his voice just adds
to the warrior esque tone that he's trying to portray, if that makes any
kind of sense. So I was definitely driving with it, and I thought
it worked for me quite quite well. Actually, yeah, like I feel
like I did like it in the movie at the time, but then maybe
there was just some time in between my last viewing of the second movie and
I just kind of forgot about it, and then I don't know, maybe
it's because he's not surrounded by like Sonic and Tails for a lot of this
like they are in the first episode, which that's probably my first or sorry,
my probably my favorite episode because they not just because they're in it,
but just because of the setup, like like the idea of Knuckles, you
know, just trying to be like in this new home and like just just
just settle into it, Like why is that show? Why is the show
not about that? And like his adventures of just trying to figure out what
it's like to live in in Green Hills and you know we just we we
kind of just park that and uh we fall away on how to be a
good bowler. Yeah, just Wade. This one hurts me, man,
Like this one really hurts me. I feel like Knuckles is just such a
badass character. They had amazing like posters and stuff for this show too.
The effects looked fantastic, similar to how I like on the Halo reviews.
I kept saying, yeah, this show sucks, but at least, like
the action looks really good. I do think that it. It looks good
across the board, even th our little goons with their there a kidne quill
weapons that they have. You got Kid Cutty with the fists, Like,
I think all those effects look really good. It's just a damn shame that
it's just such a sidebar to Wade's Wade's adventure and his growth as a character.
Yeah, no, I agree, just the moment they get into the
action where he's imagining himself being super cool and then he pulls up in his
cop car and the cop car explodes and all this thought. Man, this
is the kind of humor we're getting. And he just sits there while the
goons run out and like watch him, and then he blasts with his fist
gauntlet through the window. I just all that kind of stuff, and like
he leaves the fist gauntlet on the floor and goes to hide and lets the
villain get the gauntlet and put it on. Ah. Just don't put that
guy against Thanos. Not a good choice, No, not at all.
Oh my gosh, it was cool to see the Hound from Game of Thrones
in here. Yeah. He was a good villain, I'd say, but
he died very very quick. There wasn't really much the last episode. Even
though it was like that twenty five minute mark, it felt the freaking longest
because we had like the betrayal, we had the bowling tournament, we had
the Hound coming in to fight, and the whole final boss battle, so
there was so much going on and I got another scene that I was kind
of chuckling and laughing at was when pistol Pete Whipple. You recognize that actor
Princess Bride. Oh, that's who that is. Okay, I did recognize
him. I didn't google, but I knew i'd seen him from something.
But I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing his last name right. But it's Carrie
Elvis. Elvis super charismatic, and I love seeing him in this role.
Just he's walking around like the fancy clothing and he's just winning at gambling and
everything, and he's just so full of himself. But that's where he gave
me gold Member vibes, where he's just the Austin Powers his dad. And
this is maybe where I feel like it's the Austin Powers, like gold Member
kind of movie blending in with this because he goes, he finds out,
he finds his dad, and his dad betrays him, which was just super
shitty, and then they end up bowling each other anyways in the tournament,
which is crazy to think about. Uh yeah, just a whole bunch of
just a whole bunch of really weird inconsistencies and really poor story writing because the
character development was not great, but he was charismatic as hell and I was
enjoying that. Well it lasted. Yeah, Like I don't think it was
bad really trying to reach for a positive here like his outfit, I guess,
just like the whole betrayal thing, like it was just so obvious that
it was coming. Maybe maybe I'm wrong for thinking this, but it's just
like man like it's it just shows how much of a fucking idiot weight is
to just be like my father that's just betrayed my family and my mother,
like you know, like I just want to have this relationship with him,
which I guess that's not an abnormal thing like a Fortunately I'm not someone in
that in that realm that you know their father abandoned them, which I'm sure
that's something that maybe people have definitely aligned with that, Like doesn't matter if
they could betray you, you do still at some point want to know like
your father and like have that bond and relationship that you have been missing your
whole life. But just it just was so like he's literally a mustache,
totally villain because he has the look he's mustache. He talks, he talks
like a mustache trillly villain, and then of course he plays exactly like a
mustache totally villain. He betrays him and he just fucking wants to be Pistol
Pete the Bowler, and it's just so over the top cartoony, which I
feel like, Okay, they're going for it, it should be funny for
that reason, but it just it's not at all. It's just it did
not work for me at all. Yeah, Like, yeah, I just
I don't really care for that character at all. You mentioned yeah Sandor c
again, I think that was his name, but the Hound from Game of
Thrones. I thought he was like, actually really good in this, like
all the scenes that he had he was probably just channeling his his hound isms,
but he just was intimidating. I loved his blacksmith type character look when
he had like the blacksmith apron with the long beard, like he just he
definitely had the look. But also like when he even when he was on
like the Whiplash machine, you know, channeling channeling the Iron Man too character
in the end when he had those whips, like, I thought he looked
really good too when he was delivering his lines. But yeah, no,
they don't do too much with that character. He's kind of just in the
background for a lot of it, and as you mentioned, he's just he
goes out really really quickly. Yeah, like crushed to death, Like fuck,
what a way to go. You have like knuckles like fine in the
air when he does like the the flames of disaster move and Wade just like
shoots off his his his fist thing. At first, I was like,
man, he's gonna fucking hit knuckles. Knuckles is like he's like looping around
to go back to the hound and then fucking Wade's gonna just deck on.
But of course he doesn't. It's like a perfect snipe to take out the
globe there. That's perfect. Yeah, So, how how did you feel
about? I guess kind of like detouring away from that cato of bullying match.
Actually, one more thing on the bulling match. The announcers they mentioned,
uh talking about how like, oh an alien has has appeared and and
whatnot, and then yeah, now was that supposed to be shadow? Do
you think is that what they're alluding to because he's interesting in like held up
in a facility based on that yeah scene, Uh, well, they said
it happened before at a bowling tournament, right, that'd be kind of well,
that's I don't like. I don't think. I don't like that we're
centering the Sonic Universe around these bowling events. I really don't like that.
I'm hoping. I mean, you're probably right, because like, why else
would they say that without actually saying someone's name because they mentioned that, you
know, that alien wasn't red. I guess Shadow is red to an extent,
but he's bastly black. You might be onto something there, and that
that makes me a little more upset. I don't like this bowling catalyst.
Why does every big event have to be said around these the bowling I'm curious
if they'll if they'll answer that, And maybe it won't be so bad if
it is like that event that they're talking about, but they don't really go
into full depths on like the actual bowling competitions, just like, yeah,
he did come to Earth in nineteen seventy four. I still probably won't like
that because it will remind me of this show. Yeah. Yeah, good
catch though, because I definitely just kind of thought that was a throwaway line.
That's what. Yeah, I'm just speculating that it probably has some tie
into the movie, even though it's very vague and one that'll just go for
people's heads. But the the other character that I feel like was just he
got a whole episode dedicated to himself and it was a complete waste of time.
Was God, what is what was his actual name? Oh yeah,
Jacksonclair bounty hunter. He had the long hair. He was Wade's friend.
Uh, we got a whole episode where he basically last sus Wade and drags
him for who knows how long, tasers him and then throws him in this
weird cage where it's like arrows pointing down and says like you've been caught by
Jack Sinclair bounty Hunter and the cage is like electrocuted and whatnot. And he's
writing in a hummer with this little girl and her parents to the bowling champion,
Like it's just this is what kind of writing is this? It's fun.
I feel like the first time I actually laughed in the show was that
opening when he's like, it's gonna be a good day and then he just
gets last last oed and just dragged down the street. I think it was
the shock humor, Like I just wasn't expecting it and then it was just
so fucking random, which a lot of the show is, but that one
it actually got me. I kind of chuckled a little bit. It ended,
you know, once Jackson Clair actually had him, because then they do
this taze thing and I'm not like super nitpicky when it comes like continuity type
things, but they like tase them. As soon as they tas them,
he like puts his arms up in the air and he's like oh, and
then the next shot his arms are like as if it's like almost would be
a realistic tase, Like he's just like stiff and his arms are down by
his side. But it's just like, this is fucking garbage. Get this
shit off my television right now. That's how pissed off I was in those
moments. But uh yeah, and actually, I you know, to admit,
I actually laughed at another part of that moment. That was when they
do the duel and he drives off and he's like, you gotta have a
vehicle. You just can't hear him. I actually chuckled at that, and
I was a little bit upset with myself from chucklay back, like this is
so fucking stupid, but this is actually kind of funny because, yeah,
that happens so much in shows where they're like thirty meters away from each other
and they're like just just talking, like probably quieter than how I'm talking right
now, and then they can just hear each other perfectly fine, But in
that instance, they couldn't hear each other. And uh, hate to admit
it, but it actually got me that that was actually quite funny. Well,
I'll share some of my thoughts right after this ad break and we're back,
So I, yeah, I kind of chuckled a few things with this
scene too, with the duel, but the fact that like he challenges him
to a duel, like again, it's so it's unrealistic because Wade like blasts
through the roof of this cart as the vehicle is moving down the freeway and
lands, and it's like, is he a superhero? Where did this power
come from? I don't get it? But he lands all ca usually and
then he challenges Jackson Clair to a duel, and so Jackson Clair like does
a backflip up onto the roof of the Hummer limo where the motorcycle is,
and he pulls out dual katanas and it's like these were forged the shop blades
on the earth and like throws one and it lends right next to Wade.
It's like, okay, we're really getting cuckoo eyed here. He rides the
motorbike off the hummer and that's when, yeah, you're part here when he
zooms away in a vehicle and then Wade gets the fucking little kid's bike,
cuts off Jackson Claire's hair, makes him stripped down and then he just like
runs off like kind of crying with his hair cut off. And then like
the mom was like the mom of Little Girl Sluzy Suzi was like, yeah,
kill kill him or execute him or finish him or whatnot. And you
got the weird scene of Jackson Clair in the limo with the parents and making
them like forcibly like play karaoke like it's just weird. Yeah, shit,
that was that was hard to get through. That was like a nearly fast
forward type moment, which did happen to me a couple times throughout this show.
I will admit there was a couple of moments maybe the musical episode that
was that was one I actually had to fast forward through. I was like,
Nope, not doing this, Let's get out of here. That was
a rough That was a rough one. Can you get Jackson Claire just being
one of the Owls people? Whatnot? Like I can get that they were
trying to go for something magical here, but that in the first Sonic movie
when you get that flashback of young Sonic and you get them just like him
in his world and you get the Owls and like the you get all the
different like actual characters. They should have done that for this flashback when instid
of a Wade Whipple wearing a Wild Knuckles costume re enacting this whole thing.
Uh oh yeah, no, the not a fan of the musical sequence.
I just yeah, I wasn't a fan of the overall choice of just have
this all this focus on way, Like why do you not have Knuckles go
through a similar type moment like that since the show is called Knuckles and maybe
maybe he needs to find some inner strength, But no, let's just focus
on the Bowler, who I guarantee is not gonna be a fucking main character
in the next movie. So like, what a fucking waste of time that
was? God damn I hate that. Um yeah, nothing really else to
say on that. I'll show another another moment that actually made me laugh.
I'm trying to go off my positive list here when we have I think it's
episode five, when we have Wade confront his father and he has Knuckles in
his ear. Most of it didn't, you know, like most of it
wasn't really working for humor wise, whether it was just like Knuckles deadpan,
like very literal way of speaking, and then Wade was copying it. But
it caught me when he just was all of a sudden, He's like,
what is that magnificent thing that I'm looking at? And like when you actually
see it's literally just Knuckles looking at like the cost echidna. And another moment
that was just not what I was expecting at all, and it actually just
made me laugh out loud. I thought it was I thought it was great.
I thought that was a really funny moment. There's another moment in the
in the finale episode when Knuckles is at the bar just chilling and like a
dude in a blue costume comes up. Doesn't quite look like a hedgehog at
all. I guess the the other Knuckles one wasn't quite an echidna either,
But yeah, no, that it was just just a couple of funny moments.
I think specifically when Knuckles first sees the guy in the red costume and
he's like, what are you supposed to be? He's like, I'm an
echidna. He's like, oh nice from Alabama. Go kidnas. Like it
was just so fucking stupid, But I don't know, maybe it made me
laugh because it was actually Knuckles the one interacting with it, not Wade trying
to be over the top and ridiculous. And see, I think that's one
of the things that this show, well it obviously needed, but how much
more successful this show would have been if it had more of that is sprinkled
throughout the show consistently instead of the forced humor coming off of Wade and Wade's
interactions with other characters. Like if I had Knuckles interacting with Jackson Clair,
that seemed would have been much better. I would it would have been totally
more kelliable, Like great, So it's just missed opportunities, it really really
is. I yeah, Like, is the reason why they just they didn't
want to pay to like animate Knuckles for an entire show? Is that why?
If that's the case, do a four episode show, do a three
episode short series on just knuckles trying to fit in with this new world or
find his home, like a big apologies to what's his name? I had
the name Adam Pally for kind of just shitting on your performance here, but
hopefully it wasn't all you. I'm really blaming the writers of this and just
the overall showrunners and everything it just because it clearly isn't just this guy,
because I didn't like pretty much any of the human characters at all. I
love Kid Kid Cutty's music, but man, he was pretty fucking bad and
the show Uh if you know that was the guy with the fists, Okay,
okay, Uh, Christopher Lloyd was actually in this as uh pack packa
kamac the like the elder. Did you catch that? Oh you froze or
I froze? One of us froze. Uh so I'm gonna say you didn't
catch that, and uh, just keep moving on. Then I thought he
was I thought he was great. What else can I say here? Yeah,
Jackson Claire already covered Gary in s to Claire, Oh there you are,
all right, Christopher Lloyd. That was such a funny pause moment.
I was like, Christopher Lloyd is in here. As uh pack Aamac.
I'm like, Tater, what do you think about that? And you were
just I just didn't care. Apparently that was hype. Though I love Christopher
Lloyd. Yeah, he's great. I really don't have any other It's unfortunate.
My last note actually, because you reminded me of that character Pack of
my Lac. Very weird how he was they were trying to do like the
ghost thing, because yeah, he like can touch knuckles or hug him,
but then he couldn't go through the ceiling as he's a ghost. I don't
know. It was weird, but they're trying to make it humorous. I
got nothing else to add aside from just my pure disappointment in this show and
that I would not recommend it. I told Travis, like, even on
a rainy day, you don't need to watch this with your kids. It's
not really even four kids. I don't know. I tried to rope them
in, you know, saying that we delayed the episode for him. It's
it's a truly awful show, and he already hates musicals, and of course
in this truly awful show, there's a musical sequence in it that, uh,
that's like the quadruple whammy. Jravis hates musicals. Yeah, wow,
he probably said that. I don't think I'm putting words in his mouth,
but he always says it's just like the like the heightened reality type, noess
of it. He can never get behind, like it just doesn't really jive
with him, which doesn't make sense because he loves Yeah, that's Lane,
I think is the exception. But like I love any other musical. Yeah,
it's good. It's curious, curious, but maybe should ask him next
time we see him so that I'm not just putting words in his mouth.
But I'm pretty sure he's not a fan of musicals, right. I pulled
up the cast list and Paul Sheer he was one of the broadcasters for the
bowling competition. Really, his character's name was Gary in Sinclair. You think
he's relating to Jackson calle Man. I don't know. Did they mention anything
about that in the show? Did I miss that? No? I mean
I don't think so. Okay, it's definitely not Laura. I'm going to
look up after this review. I can tell you that, yeah, yeah,
that's a that's fair. I will not either. Closing thoughts. Closing
thoughts, I regret signing up for this review. It was truly a slog
to get through. I don't think I would have made through or made it
through if they were like hour long episodes, or if this was like a
twelve episode season. I don't think I would have been able to do it.
Honestly, I think I was right about by episode two. I felt
bad because you had watched it kind of before me, and I was like,
why did I not start this like Friday so then I could just like
right away be like Taylor. Now I can't do it. This show is
too awful. But major bummer, major major bummer. I think that I
don't even really want to say there's potential with the show. I think that
they should have just burnt the whole script and really rethink what they were trying
to do here, and if budgetary made us just focus on Wade, this
human character, do a two episode, do a fucking one episode, or
do a complete short film on just Knuckles trying to fit in here, release
it on Paramount Plus, animate it beautifully and just just let it be.
I think that would have been such a better avenue, because this isn't just
a forgettable show. This is a show that I'm gonna truly go out of
my way to tell people to not watch or or just yeah this. Hopefully
I forget about it. I don't want to be living on with hate in
my mind. But I truly hate the show. I think I'll give it.
I think I'll give it a one out of ten, not zero out
of ten. There was enough in there, but yeah, I like,
this is definitely one of the worst shows I've seen. I mean, I
mentioned it. It made me like Halo more than what was shown there.
Yeah, no, I apologize anyone. If you made it this far of
us just ranting on this episode and you did like it, make sure to
let us know because I want to what youth saw that I didn't and who
knows, Like, like, maybe it it is just certain people aligned with
the Wade character, Like did you ever see macgroober? Oh god I was.
I didn't like that. Yeah, I forgot, I forget, I
forget the lad's name that was the lead in that. But uh, like
I like that type of humor. It reminds me of this where it's just
super goofy, which I sometimes enjoy. But like, I didn't like mcgroober.
I didn't like this, I don't know. It's and like the like
mcgruber is is for like mature audiences more so than what this would be I
would imagine. But just the like the super goofiness was just it was way
too much for me. I just couldnot handle it. But uh, yeah,
so I do not recommend the show, and I really really really hope
that the next movie is much better. I am hopeful just for the fact
that it is a full movie. So I think we're not going to be
following the adventure of Wade or James Marsden. I think his character name was
Tom in the movies, So I don't want to like think that this show
would deter me from it. It's just this is what we got for the
Paramount show, and uh it's a big, big bummer. Yeah, so
I feel like we're pretty similar on a lot of these thoughts here. I
don't enjoy this show. I'm already telling people, don't waste your time with
this. I think that it's a missed opportunity. They should have been focusing
on Knuckles much much more as a character, and they could have really hit
some notes really really high if they did. Just that, I think that
there was so many things that just leave me asking questions, and so many
things that it just don't make sense. Is this a kid shows? This
an adult show. Certain jokes that just don't fit in what they're trying to
do, and just total acts of randomness. I think your mcgroober comment is
very spot on. So overall, I'm gonna give this show probably ah again,
some things some really really low rankings, but like I'd probably go uh
two out of ten to be honest, I there's nothing pulled me back.
I'm giving it two points because there was some kookiness that I really I laughed
at and I thought it was it was okay, and the stuff with Knuckles
and his fight scenes, I enjoyed that a lot. But for the most
part, there's not much going on here. The human character stuff isn't the
same as what they were doing with the movies, and this is just too
quirky crazy that it's it's so far fetched that I wasn't wasn't enjoying it.
I like the quirky craziness that they were doing with Robotnik in the first and
second movies. I think those were a lot more in line. And yeah,
this is just this is something else. So I don't recommend watching the
show. That's all I'm gonna say. And uh, yeah, there you
have it comes up. Yeah, so yeah, unless there's anything else you
have, that's it. We're gonna we're gonna close it off there and go
cray myself to sleep because this is pretty depressing. Don't watch this in the
morning either, if you if you are not convinced with what we've said and
you're planning to watch it, don't watch it in the morning, and don't
watch it an night. Yeah. I definitely passed out watching this one Sunday
evening. I was like, Oh, I'm gonna finish the show. It's
gonna be great. Next thing I know. It was like three in the
morning. Oh, didn't even get through a full episode. I'm like,
man, this sucks because now I have to watch this tomorrow, Like like
that was the worst part about it. It's like, gotta take more time
out of my day to watch this instead of just powering through it. But
that's a horrible feeling. Like at three am and you're not even finished through
the Knuckles show. Oh man, Sunday too, like going into a Monday,
I'd like get up, brush my teeth, and like fucking put dishes
away, like I was just so bummed. Oh that's horrible. Yeah,
all right, Well we'll be back with our X Men ninety seven review,
and I will be back. Actually, I believe the Bad Batch season three
finale is this week as well, so to that and then maybe and that's
right, that's right, and maybe Kirkland, maybe you'll be there for Tales
of the Empire review? Is that this weekend? This Friday? Hell yeah,
Friday. Sign me up, Johnny, let's crush it. Okay,
I'm going to hold you to that. Yeah, Sunday night, waking up
at three three in the morning, be like, is that supposed to do
something? No, I'm excited for that. Al trailer got me super hyped,
did I'm going to hear that stuff. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
thank you for tuning in. This episode of Keeper's podcast will be back soon,
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