WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:07.879 Streaming live on the iHeart Radio AP. This is I on the Ball with 2 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:14.560 Steve Ribera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. They welcome back to 3 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:17.800 Iding the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Ribera, He's 4 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:25.800 Jaken ZoZ. Now we have Jay with some breaking news allegedly. This is 5 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:30.920 I on the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, 6 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:34.600 while we started to talk about a little bit, but Arizona baseball, which 7 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:38.679 has been having a rough year, really rough year. Uh, kind of 8 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:42.600 knock days. You're on last night. I need nothing. So so our 9 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:48.479 buddy Javier or Morales posts this thing on internet or somewhere on Facebook or Twitter. 10 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:53.359 Um, is that twenty to zero in baseball equals seventy to seven in 11 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:59.359 football? I would only say there's a little too. I think there's a 12 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:03.079 little caveat to this game, and that it wasn't while it was still Arizona 13 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:07.359 SU. It wasn't a conference game, so it really didn't mean anything other 14 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:10.719 than another win. So I disagree with that. He was just asking, 15 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:12.959 does oh it does not? It does not because had it been, had 16 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:17.680 it been, had it been a game of real importance between the two teams, 17 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:19.640 like a conference game that maybe one of them's going to get into the 18 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:25.799 tournament one is not, and then that happens. Sure no, no, 19 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:29.840 not even that, because baseball is not football, right, Okay, baseball 20 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:33.719 is not football? Is that? I mean? Is it a big deal? 21 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:36.959 You know for the for Arizonner to do something like that. Sure they 22 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.159 need something, They needed something like that. You know, it's the kind 23 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:44.079 of thing that you know, maybe terms or season around because they feel, 24 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:46.400 you know, they walk on the field field a whole lot better about them. 25 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:49.319 So it is. And plus they did it to a sure dress look 26 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:57.879 great. Um but I think that overall big deal but not a big deal. 27 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:04.480 Okay that makes any sense? Yes, twenty to nothing is twenty to 28 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:06.519 nothing. I mean, you don't want to lose twenty to nothing. Long 29 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:08.800 was a game he was just hoping. I can imagine. Man, Well, 30 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:12.759 I know a su didn't bat for a long time in any in any 31 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:16.000 inning, so maybe it wasn't all long. But yeah, that I mean, 32 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:21.159 you know, uh no, it's not doesn't compare seventy sent that, 33 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.400 does it. That's seventy seven The d a whole lot more, all right, 34 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:29.479 Um uh staying on staying on the Arizona side. A football got a 35 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:34.400 commitment from uh UH Indiana defensive line transfer. Yea, if I'm not even 36 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:39.879 gonna, I guess I could tramp pronounce his last name. CEO. Now 37 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:44.719 got total And that's what are the concerns on the line, right They need 38 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:50.280 they need help on the six three three fifty. But that's what they need. 39 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.800 You know, he came, he came to he came, He visited 40 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:58.479 this uh uf A last weekend, and he picked Arizona over Oregon State. 41 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.280 Okay, which is a big deal. Now in the past, if you 42 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:02.840 picked them over organ State, you said, oh, okay, big deal. 43 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:06.319 But organ State it's gonna be pretty good. Yeah. He started all 44 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:10.639 twelve games in Indiana last year two and a half tackles for loss um So 45 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:15.439 you know, didn't get a ton of tackles. Says, because this is 46 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:20.759 from Jason Shear's article on it on Wildcat Authority, that UH Indiana's defensive scheme, 47 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:23.080 defensive linemen don't generally get a lot of tackles. But he did have 48 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:28.400 two and a half tackles. He played forty one games in four seasons over 49 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.560 there, so this is a fifth year guy, how many tackles did you 50 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:34.039 have? Forty one? Forty one? Okay, two and a half sacks? 51 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:38.439 Yeah, two and two and a half sucks tackles for lost last year 52 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:40.919 said two and a half tackles. That's not very good, but your tackles 53 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:45.599 for he's a New Zealand kid. Um. Uh. Then he moved to 54 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:50.520 American Samoa and that's where he came from. You know. Again, a 55 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:54.400 nice nice pickup for Jetfishes. They need those players all right. Um. 56 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:58.960 Something that Arizona basketball fans were like, yeah, I just heard a thing 57 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:03.800 the day that the the LSU and Kansas. Uh yeah, RP AI R 58 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:11.199 what I RP cases are sort of coming to to a cloth. Um. 59 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.680 In an article from Sports Illustrated, Billy Preston, who was one of the 60 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:19.560 Kansas basketball players involved in all of that, uh, said that, uh, 61 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:24.399 the Jayhawks staff knew about the payments. Is his mom was getting from 62 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:30.920 Adidas that the staff knew about it. Oh. Um, so whatever, 63 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.000 but that's a smoking gun that they never had on air. Sure, so 64 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:38.160 let me ask you what happened to Steve Stephen Preston. Okay, Billy Preston. 65 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:42.399 Billy Preston and not that Billy Preston that you and I, um, 66 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.319 I don't know where you're where you want because if you're that talented, you 67 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:47.560 must have had some talent to play in Kansas. And if you didn't make 68 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.279 it to the NBA. Um, Okay, well they're wasting money on the 69 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:56.680 guy that didn't make it to the NBA. Yeah. Uh but uh basically 70 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:00.120 saying that everybody knew about it, and so he says they ain't no victim 71 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.160 because see that the thrust of the case of the trust of the court case 72 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:10.120 was that the schools were victims of the guys who were doing the prime stuff 73 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:14.399 like that, and and and and uh. Preston was saying that that they 74 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:15.800 weren't a victim. They knew what was going on. They put the whole 75 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:19.360 thing together, They set it up. KAYU was the whole reason we even 76 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:23.240 met, right, It's like shooting yourself in the foot, and says, 77 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:25.639 well, yeah, there was a robber here, but the robbert was me 78 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.360 and the and the mom. The mom is saying the same. The mom 79 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:32.279 was quoted basically the same, the same. So, well, like everybody 80 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:36.160 else know what, Tuan didn't come on it. It's gonna be Okay, 81 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.360 they didn't do it. I haven't done anything to any of the other school 82 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:45.759 right overall of this this is Kansas and yeah, so let's see what happens, 83 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.040 all right, Um, okay, let's see what else did I have 84 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:55.959 here? Uh oh minute always said Max Scherzer was looking at a ten game 85 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.399 suspension. He is being given, Yeah, a ten games. Did they 86 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.720 say what it is? He was saying it was rosin and sweat. They 87 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:05.800 don't know what it is. They just know it was something on his hand. 88 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:11.759 His hand was sticky, and you know that's what guys try to do. 89 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:15.759 You know, it helps them. It helps him grip the ball, 90 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:20.360 put a different different rotation, all that you ever do, spitter a little 91 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:25.600 bit, Yeah, it helps with definitely with injury too when you're gripping the 92 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.120 ball, because some of those balls can be real slick. Yeah. Now, 93 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.360 they try to use anything they can, anything they can get their hands 94 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.480 on. Um, he's trying to make the argument that because they checked him 95 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:35.319 going in and they said, look, you got something on your hands. 96 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.160 You got you need to go get rid of this. And then he went 97 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:43.720 into the dugout washed his hands with alcohol in front of a staff person a 98 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.920 Major League Baseball staff person, did everything that staff person asked him to do, 99 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.319 went back out on the field. They said, you still got stuff 100 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.680 on your hands, and they threw him out of the game. And he's 101 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:54.480 basically saying, I did everything they asked me to do, and still they 102 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:59.079 tossed me. That was got He is getting into ten game suspension for having 103 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:02.680 something on his hand. All right, Um, he's just an interesting thing. 104 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.399 This may be more for discussion. But James Franklin, the head coach 105 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:11.560 at at Penn's football coach at Penn State, we gotta call let's take this 106 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:15.839 higher on the air and I on the ball. Hey, it's Mike Mna. 107 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.360 How you guys doing. Hey, Mike, what's up? Let me 108 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:25.040 hear your measurements today? Oh you know, sorry, yeah, I thought 109 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:28.480 I was calling into Dan Patrick last week. Now. But I'll tell you 110 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:30.839 what, guys, I love your show. This is coming from a you 111 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:32.800 know, I live in Chandler, I live in Phoenix, and you got 112 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:36.079 me addicted to the show. Now. I listened to it, you know 113 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.000 when I get home at night and stuff and laying in bed and you guys 114 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.879 talk about all the stuff. I like sports cards, you know, you 115 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.959 got the n I L guy you had all was great. My favorite thing 116 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:51.759 though, is that he's point of reference for everything is Arizona basketball. And 117 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:56.000 it's just like me, like, I didn't feel like I got old until 118 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:00.319 all the guys from the ninety seven h NCA tournament we're out of the MBA, 119 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.920 you know, years and Antoine James, san Vince Carter. At that 120 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.519 point, I was like, damn, now I'm old now. Yeah, 121 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:09.879 but anyways, I wanted to I wanted to plug my event. Uh most 122 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:11.920 time. We got it coming up in a couple of days. Yeah, 123 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.639 absolutely good, go ahead, give us. Yeah, we've got We've got 124 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:20.839 Maya Nag from the Arizona women's basketball team. She's gonna be at our Cricket 125 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:26.560 Wireless store at fourteen seventy five West Saint Mary's this Saturday, April twenty second, 126 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.759 from twelve to two pm. I just found out that she's also bringing 127 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:37.279 Kaylin Gilbert, Helanta Abuyo and Um and Um Martinez as well, excuse me 128 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.559 for as as Marie Martinez. Yes, so we're gonna have you know, 129 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.879 almost the starting five of the team out here, not not quite the starters, 130 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.480 but enough to to field the team out there, Um, come out 131 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.480 and play some basketball games with them. We're gonna we just up there. 132 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:56.879 We're gonna do one hundred free Sonoran Hotdogs. So bring the family out, 133 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.519 bring the kids out to play games. We have a face pain or a 134 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.559 jumping castle. We're gonna raffle up some prizes. This is going to be 135 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:07.200 a lot of fun for the community. Come down to the Cricket Wireless Store 136 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.919 on fourteen seventy five West Saint Mary's this Saturday from twelve to two. Are 137 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.440 they going to sign autographs? What can the fans expect? Hey, I'm 138 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:18.399 printing out these autograph cards. I've got a couple hundred of those that we're 139 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.799 going to pass out to get autographs, to get pictures, to just interact. 140 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:24.919 I want them to be a part of, you know, the community 141 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:31.320 and really just interact with everybody. I've been a fan of of all types 142 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.399 of basketball. I'll watch kids basketball, women's basketball, whatever, But I 143 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:39.080 know the popularity of women's basketball is on the rise in the whole country, 144 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.279 but also in Tucson over the last few years. With a Da Barnes and 145 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:45.519 what she's doing here, it's very popular. So here's your chance to come 146 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.159 on out, meet some of the players, some of the young rising stars 147 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:52.440 in the program, and have some fun with them, connect with them. 148 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.240 You always talk about how we don't get to meet the team the players like 149 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.840 we used to back in the day. Well, we're bringing this back to 150 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:01.480 the community so you can meet the players and connect with them on a personal 151 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:05.480 level. Yeah, good point, Good point, Michael. Thanks all right, 152 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.720 Mike, thanks a whole bunch. Man, appreciate you listening too. 153 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:13.159 All right, Warriors, Go Warriors. I almost wanted to give him the 154 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:18.120 one eight hundred next Step number, but since he says he's addicted to us, 155 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.799 I love that. I love somebody. Yeah, he hadn't been listening, 156 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.480 he called, and then yeah, good all right. Yeah, So 157 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:26.200 get out there noon to two o'clock on West Saint Mary's Road, the uh 158 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:30.720 the Cricket Cricket Store. Anyway, so I was getting to this one. 159 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.519 We got about four minutes before we have to break for Clancy Shields. Um. 160 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.080 James Franklin, Head, the head football coach at UH at Penn State, 161 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:41.159 said that the there's gonna have to be at some point, and he 162 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:46.799 said sooner rather than later. Revenue sharing and or a collective bargaining agreement with 163 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:52.519 college athletes that he said, what's worth. What they're doing now is not 164 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.840 working, and it's not it's it's not sustainable. He said, I think 165 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:01.639 most people would prefer that being collective bargaining or revenue change for that than the 166 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.519 current model, because I think it's better for student athletes. But there's because 167 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.840 they're gonna be able to get contracts and know what they're signing up for. 168 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.720 And I think for the schools as well, I think there's going to be 169 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.519 value in knowing what you're dealing with. They don't know now, I mean, 170 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.600 you know, they don't. I won't they think they The schools don't 171 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.919 because they get a guy and they don't know how long he's gonna stay and 172 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:24.440 if somebody's gonna come on with some other money and take him out of there. 173 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.360 And so what he's saying is that they're gonna if they do this, 174 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.799 there's gonna be contracts. But the only way that's gonna work is if there's 175 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.120 also a contract with the coach. It says a coach can't leave either right 176 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.039 for this contract, regardless of a buyout or whatever. You just can't go, 177 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.799 you know, put it in this cause if you leave, you can't 178 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:46.000 coach for five years. You know, this fairytale, fairy tale world, 179 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.919 it's not gonna work. I mean, they screwed up by doing this in 180 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:54.200 the first place, and not having the rules already already in place, by 181 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.080 thinking it would take care of itself, and not putting the rules right right, 182 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.879 Well, let me tell you. You don't even have to tell me 183 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.840 what you're gonna tell me be for. But you you found out some stuff 184 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.639 about the UA basketball team, right that we had the nil guy here before, 185 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.639 what players were getting right, and it kind of was too. My 186 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.600 point of if Jay's getting more than me and he's passing me the ball or 187 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:18.159 whatever, well what about shouldn't I be getting something like that exactly right, 188 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.360 exactly right, exactly so anyway, So that's just you know, not coming 189 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:26.799 from somebody like the guy Penn state. Um, what happens, I think 190 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:31.039 Steves when a conversation like that starts, it always gains moment, and then 191 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:35.440 other coaches will join. Eventually something happen right, right. If it was 192 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:37.679 okay for him to say it, I can say it too, and then 193 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.799 you get this ball rolling true and ultimately things That's how things like nil and 194 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:46.000 whatever come to fruition because you build momentum towards those things. And I just 195 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:50.159 see the players now getting together and doing the union or whatever. Once I 196 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:52.559 did, the other guy shifts, and you know, it comes back and 197 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:56.080 forth and again. You know, you're trying to do a union. Uh 198 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.519 you know remember the Northwestern kid, right, and it got shot down. 199 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:05.159 But now there's their support in government. They're supporting government for this, you 200 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.639 know, in Congress and at the state legislatures. And this is the thing. 201 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.279 This is not the stuff you and I grew up with. It's not 202 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.679 it's a it's a different it's a whole different aspect of the business. Anything 203 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:18.039 else you have. I have one more Cardinals are getting in your uniforms. 204 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.679 Did you know that the Arizona Cardinals. No, they're launches in uniforms supposed 205 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.039 to get lunched to night. Again, I've always thought uniform changes like this 206 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.960 are a money grab by the next They're still gonna be bad, said, 207 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.360 it doesn't matter what you put them in this, they're still gonna be bad. 208 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.440 You got a question, but still look good playing bad. See that's 209 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.320 to my point. So the A's are gonna get there. Let me ask 210 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.519 you. You you're there in Vegas for four days. Uh, and you're 211 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.000 there for four days and the team's playing, they're playing maybe a team. 212 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.840 You want to see you getting off the tables to go or do whatever you're 213 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:52.840 doing. You're gonna go to the game. I don't know. The only 214 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.200 reason I haven't gone to a Raiders game in the you know, when I've 215 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.879 been there and there's been a game, there was a home game there last 216 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.960 time we were there. I haven't gone because the tick three hundred dollars to 217 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.879 go to go sit in the in the nosebleed of of their stadium. But 218 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:11.120 if I got to pay six or seventy bucks to go to watch a baseball 219 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.320 game and I can throw some money on the game and then go watch the 220 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.399 game, I love that. I will do that. Yeah, I will 221 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:20.080 do that. Yeah. They the bit that I saw that they they bought 222 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.440 a piece of property just north of I don't know if ibout a mile north 223 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.879 of the of the football stadium, and it's across the freeway from team on 224 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:33.159 the other side of them. Basically you want you can walk that bridge over 225 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.600 the freeway like you have to do at the at the football stadium and you're 226 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.879 there, but it's right there. Okay, we've been like that. All 227 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:43.799 right, let's hit the road. We're gonna come back. 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Subscribe now to 287 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:29.559 the podcast on the iHeart Radio Whip just Surgey I on the Ball. Hey, 288 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:32.559 welcome back to Win on the Ball. Here h Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 289 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:34.720 I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jakinsons now on the phone. We have Classy 290 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:40.240 Shields head tennis coach at you A. How are you coaching? I'm doing 291 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:44.119 good. Thanks for having me on. You're continuing to roll, continuing to 292 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:45.880 roll as we near the end of the year. Are you doing it? 293 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:49.559 Yeah, we're having a great We're having a great year. We're nineteen and 294 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:53.559 five on the year. We've been top fifteen for most of the year, 295 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:59.799 so it's been a it's been an exciting sea then and like we preach all 296 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:02.200 you year long, we want to you know, it's all about finishing strong. 297 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.000 So uh, you know, as good as the season's been so far, 298 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:08.279 that's our mission and that's what we're focused on. And nothing no more 299 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:12.319 important than playing our arrival ASU this week. And so we're gearing up for 300 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:15.640 a tough one. So let's first, let's first go into that, because 301 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:19.200 you know, you have a lot more going on. You would you you'll 302 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:22.920 be in the postseason or whatnot. But tell us us a little bit your 303 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:25.839 approach to a su I mean, just kind of the same as everybody else. 304 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:26.880 We want to beat the hell out of those guys and maybe get a 305 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:30.680 billboard out of it, or how do you how do you approach this? 306 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:37.720 I mean, I think this is my seventh year at Yo Bay, and 307 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:41.039 I think this is one of the craziest rivalries in all of college sports and 308 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:45.240 even draw us fans. I don't even like tennis to the match. I 309 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.440 mean, I think they dislike us a little more than we dislike them. 310 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:51.119 I have that feeling when we go up there, it's a little bit more. 311 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:55.559 The crowds are a little bit tougher on us, but certainly I mean 312 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.359 number one, I mean, we always want to win our state. We 313 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:03.039 want to you know, we want to win the territorial cup point for our 314 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.440 school, and so there's a lot of there's a lot more pressure than just 315 00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:08.519 winning a tennis match. And I think that's the beauty of this and why 316 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:11.240 are we training so hard and why we get ready for this? And I 317 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:15.279 know, I'm sorry, certainly have circled this this match on their calendar the 318 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:19.240 whole year, and I'm sure ASU has as well. So when when you 319 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.920 talk about you know, some of the other sports, particularly football, they 320 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:27.240 talk about how important it is to win this. For from a recruiting standpoint, 321 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.559 you want to be the best team in the state, and it has 322 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.720 an impact if you can get a player that a SU can't, that those 323 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:37.519 things matter. Is that Is that also the case with uh with tennis? 324 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.880 Yes, I mean, you know, sometimes you're on the recruiting trail and 325 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:45.640 people mix you up, you know, as are you guys the Arizona State 326 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:48.359 and I'm like, uh no, where Arizona? And so, you know, 327 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.000 I think it's I think it's fun. I mean, obviously in recruiting 328 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.839 it's big, um, but certainly for us, we just you know, 329 00:21:56.160 --> 00:22:00.000 this is a match that we you know, we the first couple of years 330 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:02.680 we haven't been able to beat them, and then the last two years we've 331 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:04.240 we've gotten them, and so I certainly know they're going to be hungry to 332 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:07.160 beat us this year and we've got we want to keep this thing going. 333 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.640 And I think I think it's the biggest the bigger part of our guys. 334 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:17.319 Is it really since that they're representing the University of Arizona this week and think, 335 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:19.400 you know, not just our tennis program. And I think that's what's 336 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:25.160 so cool about this is that it is the Territorial Cup and you have a 337 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:29.279 lot more meaning than just a lowly tennis tennis program. So I'm gonna ask 338 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:32.759 you, maybe a dumb question, coach, but you've done a fantastic job 339 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:37.000 there. Obviously you're offered an extension a couple of years ago doing fantastic things. 340 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.839 What's your style in coaching tennis? Um? Some people think do you 341 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.440 even need to have a style? When do you coach tennis? Because these 342 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.279 kids can play, but you've got to find something within them. How do 343 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.640 you do it? Because you've done a great job with it. I don't 344 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.000 know. I mean, you know, we number one. I really love 345 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:59.599 this job. I love working with kids. You know, I got my 346 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:02.839 degree in education. I wanted to be a teacher, and this to me 347 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.720 just seems like I'm going to a school and I'm teaching kids. I guess 348 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:10.440 I have twelve guys on the team, but our family and I care a 349 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.920 lot about them, you know. And then when you're teaching tennis, I 350 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.759 mean going back, look number one, you got to show these kids you 351 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.680 care. And if they know you care about them, and you can pretty 352 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.960 much say anything you want as a coach because they know that you care about 353 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:27.960 them, whether that that feedback is pos negative or constructive criticism. At the 354 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:30.720 end of the day, they know you care about them. And you know, 355 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.920 I think I think the biggest thing that I've learned to miss is eatan 356 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:38.480 every day we have to engage the kids. And what I what I mean 357 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:42.759 by engaging the kids is kids them check in and dialt in in a good 358 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:47.640 headspace and ready to work and ready to do all the things that we're asking 359 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.599 of them. And you know, I think that's my favorite part is checking 360 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:52.839 in with the team each and every day and engaging them and getting them in 361 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:57.000 a place where they can really improving, get better, and where we can 362 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:02.240 chase after our goals. And you know, I think part of our motto 363 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:07.160 in our program is trust your work. And each and every day we're gonna 364 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:08.960 we're gonna go in put some work in, and then and on the weekends. 365 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.039 We got to trust the work that we put in. I think the 366 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.680 guys have really bought into that. Yeah, no, okay, before Jay 367 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.880 asked another question, I'll remind them about the Grubio stuff, you know, 368 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.240 because we had them right. But for you, you've done this with facilities 369 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.200 that are how can I say this? I can say this, you probably 370 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:27.559 can are not up to snuff for probably Pack twelve at least. I kind 371 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:30.599 of behind the scenes, I've talked a couple of people. Uh, and 372 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:36.079 you've done this without the fancy smancy stuff, you know, um, and 373 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:40.480 you continue to win and not just win a little a little lot. How 374 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:45.400 has that been? Well? You know, I think we recruited players that 375 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:51.960 have embraced this color and mentality that you know, we love the conditions. 376 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.119 We love when it's one hundred and ten on the courts in August and September, 377 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:59.799 and we love when it's you know, twenty mile our wins out there. 378 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.960 We love when the you know, the sand and the dust is blown 379 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:06.160 up on the court, and you know, I just think we're just trying 380 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:08.799 to embrace, you know, all the difficult things that we have, and 381 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.720 it just made our team a lot tougher. And you know, you can 382 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:15.480 complain about things or you can just embrace it and make it a part of 383 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.559 your identity. And I think, you know, that's what we've done in 384 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:22.920 our program, and I think it starts with our staff and myself that you 385 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.680 know, yeah, maybe the things aren't the very best in every area, 386 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.440 but you know, we're going to be the very best in the people we 387 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.880 have here. And that's the one thing I love about Arizonas And we've really 388 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.039 invested in incredible people. I mean, our strength and conditioning coach, our 389 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:42.279 nutritionists, are sports medicine people, I mean everybody who's in a part of 390 00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:47.279 our team, they're awesome. Understand, We've got great people that we work 391 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.119 with day in and day out, and we don't you know, all those 392 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.480 other little things they just don't matter when you have great people. And that's 393 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.839 kind of what what we feel here. That's I mean, that's just a 394 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.880 great answer, because you have to write you are who you are and you 395 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.160 do the best with with who you are. Let me ask you this, 396 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:06.799 because you know tennis being an individual sport, even that they're on a team. 397 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:08.839 But you know, these kids come and they've already been playing tennis for 398 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.200 a long time. Some of them probably have their own coaches and those kinds 399 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:17.960 of things like golfers do. As the coach of this team, how much 400 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.359 do you actually work on their games with them? And and what besides, 401 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:23.920 you know, bringing them together as a team. What you know, what's 402 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:29.000 your role as a head coach of a team of in a sport like this 403 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.720 where some of these some of these players already pretty well prepared by the time 404 00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:37.119 they get there. Yes, yes, you know, Um, you know, 405 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:41.680 I think I think. I was just telling our coach the other day, 406 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.119 I said, I can't believe some of these guys have gotten this far 407 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.440 in their games of the game of tennis without learning some fundamentals. So I 408 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.599 think I think there's it's a yes, and now I think these kids have 409 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.519 come a long way. But I also think we're teaching these kids quite a 410 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.480 bit um while we're here. And I the thing that makes our programs so 411 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:04.759 unique and why I think we've had a lot of success is that each player 412 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.640 on the team spends one hour a day with a coach one on one, 413 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.880 and so you have twelve players and that's twelve hours that's theyvit up with our 414 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.640 coaching staff. I mean, that's just an incredible how much you can accomplish 415 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.839 when you beg into the fine details of your swing and your contact point and 416 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:26.000 weight transfer and trying to stay you know, emotionally calm all the time. 417 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:30.319 It is a really complex puzzle that we're trying to put together each and every 418 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:34.279 day. And I would say we do a we're really a developmental program. 419 00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.440 I mean, we've had some good recruiting classes, but buy in March, 420 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.839 we've just been able to out develop our competition. And that's always going to 421 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.079 be our motto here is that we're going to get the kid a level below 422 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.440 the top programs because it's hard to outrecruit a lot of teams, and then 423 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:52.279 we're going to out develop them where they're going to be a lot We're going 424 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.559 to be tougher than them, grettier than them, and you know, I 425 00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.440 think those things that is a combination for success. Yeah, answer, but 426 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.200 go ahead, So let's talk a little bit about yourself, and that is 427 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.599 I mean, I that's Rubio stuff, just coaching the kids, well, 428 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.880 you know, the the you know we you know, David Rubio retired this 429 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:12.039 year and one of the things that he said, he was very open about 430 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:18.240 was that, you know, he just didn't have the continued frame of mind 431 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.000 to be able to coach today's athlete. He even, I think he said 432 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:23.440 to the point too, I don't feel like I can relate to him like 433 00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.440 I need to to be their head coach. Are the tennis players changing in 434 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:32.839 that way or are they the same tennis players? Is their approach the same 435 00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.160 as it's always given today? Right, given to all the stuff going on 436 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:40.160 today, nil, transfer portal, all that kind of stuff. I mean, 437 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.559 how is it dealing with the athletes that you know at that level? 438 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:48.039 Do you have to Are you finding yourself having to do more off the court, 439 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:49.920 you know, as well as you know, continue to do the stuff 440 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:56.200 on the court. Yes, I mean yes? Or no, I mean 441 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.200 it is it is more challenging now than it was five years ago, ten 442 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.240 years ago. Um, you know, the kids kind of just it used 443 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.680 to be ten years ago, twenty years ago the coach would say jump and 444 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:10.640 the kids and say how high and that's just not the way things rolling. 445 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.440 More. They ask a lot of questions, they're you know, but I 446 00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.359 but I think we have a role in all of this as coaches. I 447 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.519 mean, I told our team today, like, I don't want you to 448 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.200 listen to respond to me. I want you to listen to understand what I'm 449 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:27.759 talking about. And so we we spent some time like trying to break down 450 00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:33.519 some simple concepts and get them to wrap their mind around it, because you 451 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.440 know, there's a lot of life lessons that we need to teach these kids, 452 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:38.960 and um, beyond the tennis court. But you know, to your 453 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:45.720 point, yes, it's more difficult, and luckily we're winning and we're we're 454 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.400 having success, and so maybe I just you know, and they're going really 455 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.720 well for us. Um, you know, call me back when we're not 456 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.319 having a grade, Yeah, exactly, and then I'll then then then I'll 457 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.039 be poking holes and you know, the areas that we're falling short. But 458 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.119 um, certainly we fall short all the day. I think the main thing 459 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:10.640 is that we're all imperfect beings and we're all human. We all make mistakes, 460 00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:15.319 and I think when you humanize people, everybody can find a common ground. 461 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.720 And I think we've been able to do that with each individual. I 462 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.839 mean, heck, we have players from cent or eight different countries. You've 463 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.039 come from all different backgrounds and they've found at home here and they've all gotten 464 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.440 on the same page and they're all working towards the same goal. And I 465 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:33.039 think that's a pretty unique thing to do. And um, I'm really proud 466 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.039 of that. No, it's funny because swity sells a lot of problems, 467 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:38.599 right, it always does, always ask. But for you, I'm sure 468 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:45.279 you recruit also players that you know that you can find extra from them or 469 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:52.319 you know what I'm saying. Yes, And that's that's the beauty of recruiting. 470 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:56.319 It's that you get us spend quality time. And I mean we really 471 00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.400 work hard and the recruiting piece to make sure that these are good kids. 472 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.440 And I think it's really simple. I mean, our staff has a simple 473 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.000 thing. Number One, we want kids who love the game. Because if 474 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.400 the kid loves the game, man, whatever bag is, they bring with 475 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.960 them and that is such an important component. The second question we ask, 476 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.960 do we want to come to work for this kid for for four years? 477 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:19.839 Like it's he a kid that we're going to wake up in the morning, 478 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.079 be excited about coming into the office sport, and it's like, if they 479 00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:26.160 check that box, then you know, that's pretty good. And then the 480 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.200 third thing is are these are these guys competitive and they hate to lose? 481 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.480 And they are they gonna? Are they gonna? You know, how bad 482 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.119 do they really want it? I think if you could check some of those 483 00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.599 boxes and you feel really good about it, and there's a high, high 484 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.359 chance that you know, it's going to be a success story for both parties. 485 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.720 So looking at your looking at your your season, Um, you had 486 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.599 you put together a nice run of wins and you lost your last one and 487 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.599 that happens. But you know, you had the string of what seventh straight 488 00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.240 seventh straight match wins including beat in UCLA and you in the same weekend. 489 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.759 And as I recall, you guys hadn't beaten USC in like forever, and 490 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.960 you beat them last year and then you beat them again this year. How 491 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.960 is that happening? Coach? I mean how, I mean, how is 492 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.160 that coming together for you guys to you know, take on a team like 493 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.480 USC that's always really good? Yeah? Well, I mean, just like 494 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:22.640 in Judge program, it's personal. I mean I think It is really personal 495 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:29.519 for our team when we play the California Schools because those guys always think they're 496 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.480 better than us. They've been better than our players in the juniors. Um. 497 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.960 You know, they have everything. Their stadium holds eight thousand people. 498 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.319 I mean, they have everything at their disposal. UM. And I just 499 00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.279 think our guys really play with a chip on their shoulder when they play those 500 00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:50.359 teams, and it's certainly very personal to them. And I know, I 501 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.200 think I think I think our guys, if they can play the way they 502 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.880 did it against those two teams, I think our team can go all the 503 00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:58.359 way. I mean, I think I think this team is really dealt to 504 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:00.759 make a deep run and then a tournament. But I think you have to 505 00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:05.240 stay true to your identity of a greaty team. We're a tough team. 506 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.279 We're not the most talented team, but we set together, we worked together, 507 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:14.079 and certainly, I think that plays heavily in our favor when we played 508 00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.319 the California Schools, because you know, I think we're the typesis of everything 509 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:21.759 that they are. You know, I mean that they are talented and they 510 00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.960 look good and we're kind of different. We're tough, we're great you're kind 511 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:30.119 of ugly, and um, we've bet it worked for us. So coach, 512 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:34.440 thank you for opening the door. Last year, we talked to you 513 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.799 and we're all excited for you. We really were. In fact, when 514 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:39.680 you lost in the first round, I was disappointed before you because you were 515 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:44.119 fantastic and you can kind of hear it in my voice. Uh, don't 516 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:49.599 do that again, because yeah, well, look as with everything we learned, 517 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:53.039 and we've I learned a lot from last year about what happened, and 518 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.119 we're I think we're really dialed that. I mean, we lost the youth 519 00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.079 last week. That would have put us top ten in the country. Um, 520 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.400 you know, that would have clinched us the share of the PAC twelve 521 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.480 title. And you know, I think the same thing as the guys battled 522 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.320 hard, they competed were we were one point away from winning four one and 523 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:13.920 having those things happened for us. But at the end of it, but 524 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.239 honestly, at the end of the day, the guys competed so hard that 525 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.719 you you take a loss and you just say, man, I'm just so 526 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.440 proud of our effort and that's all that's all that matters. And I you 527 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.320 know, the winds and losses will take care of themselves. You just got 528 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.159 to prepare the best we can. Hope, hope that up. That's enough, 529 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.920 all right, coach. Well, we appreciate the time and best of 530 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:36.400 luck first of all at ASU this weekend and uh, you know, let 531 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.599 you know, beat them so bad you get to put up a billboard and 532 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:43.159 then uh and then you know, good luck in the postseason, you know, 533 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.960 hope again, hopefully it goes better than it went last year. But 534 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.480 you guys sound like you guys are all set for that. Well, I 535 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.159 appreciate it, and thanks for having me on. All right, thank you, 536 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:57.239 coach. Good luck. All right, those clients of Shields head men's 537 00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.039 tennis coach are up at ASU trying to get another territorial cup. The women's 538 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:05.360 off team got one because they finished ahead of ASU in the Pactolf Championship. 539 00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.960 So trying to pile up some of those points. So we'll be right back 540 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:13.400 and we'll take your calls to close out the show. If you're an Arizona 541 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.079 men's basketball fan, you'd know it's been successful for newly forty years. Now. 542 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:20.199 Take a look back at the Ludolson era in my new book, Lessons 543 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.639 from Loot. 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Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve 601 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.800 Ja. We have a lot thirteen minutes left to do in the call us 602 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.239 please do four five, two, four one, six, seventy four forty 603 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.719 the Tinker calls, so let us know what we're up to or how we're 604 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.480 doing whatever. It was interesting, clients. I love his philosophy. It 605 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:50.960 tells a lot like Tommy Lloyd to me in philosophy. Yeah, yeah, 606 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.280 I mean it's like, we do what we do. We embrace the things 607 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.320 that we need, you know, that we need to do for our program. 608 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.159 We're not usc we pretend to be rescribed be we're ugly, but we 609 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.760 get to win, right, and then yeah, and he's doing it. 610 00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.599 I still think and I you know how I feel about that first round to 611 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.760 Princeton and some of the other games Arizona has to return. There's all the 612 00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:14.400 basketball now has to return to have been a chip on their shoulder, being 613 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.599 pissed that that they lost, right, and they have to say, we're 614 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.840 Arizona, I don't care. We're gonna play tough. Yeah, we're gonna 615 00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.880 play better. I know it's easy to say. And I think fans are 616 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:29.519 disappointed that after you know, getting to the Sweet sixteen last year and losing 617 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:32.280 the way they did to Houston, that that didn't seemingly piss them off enough 618 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:37.679 to to get to the tournament the next year and have that chip on their 619 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.199 shoulder. Right. Yeah, I mean I think that's what the thing that's 620 00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:43.440 appointed the fans as much as anything. No, I agree, and well 621 00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.920 yes, I yes, umbrust and I think he made a great point. 622 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.159 This town gives them a lot of love, right, a lot of them. 623 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.920 When you go thirty sum in five or whatever, you get a lot 624 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.559 of love, you start believing the love. Yeah, they do it at 625 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.519 Houston, they do it at the Alabama they do it. And it's what 626 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:06.159 poison. What's the poison thing? You're you're taking the poison and it happens 627 00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:09.719 here. It happens a lot here, and they need to stop that together. 628 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.679 They gotta get they don't have to be a blue collar team, but 629 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.599 they need to get a little more of a blue collar attitude without the lunch 630 00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.639 payout question. Yes, you know, to do the hard work, do 631 00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.239 the grind, all that kind of stuff. Forget the other stuff. Just 632 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:28.480 work. And it's not that they don't, but when you have a lot 633 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.480 of success, you start to think maybe we just can turn it down a 634 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.679 little. No, no, no, no, no, and again people 635 00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.239 can't. And then and Don the other day made the point Tommy Lays been 636 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.239 a head coach two years, and I get it. He was an assistant 637 00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.800 for a lot of years under a good coach. He saw probably everything that 638 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.119 he needed to see in order to be a head coach. But when you're 639 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.679 in the seat, it's still different. It is different, no matter how 640 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.199 much you think you know about how to be a head coaches. And Tommy 641 00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.840 does a lot of great things as a head coach that that you think, 642 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.960 okay, that you know he was ready for this. But on the other 643 00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.800 hand, in the end, you don't know if behind the scenes that there's 644 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.360 some things that are going on that he's kind of trying to figure out more. 645 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:10.760 And I think he kind of said that, right, didn't he say 646 00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.599 that he's sort of in the towards the end of last Look, I'm still 647 00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.480 in you know, I'm still learning. I'm still learning stuff, right. 648 00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.480 No, he said that, Ennis, I'm gonna take this one. It's 649 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.719 on me. Yeah, I'll figure this out, you know, blah blah 650 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.199 blah. Um it happens, and say it happened to Loot a number of 651 00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.639 times. It happens to Sean. Yeah, it happens to the best of 652 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:30.679 it. And it happened lout well into his career. Right, Loud had 653 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.880 been around the block a number of times when you had that. Stuff happened 654 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.880 to him in ninety one and ninety two, you know when he lost those 655 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:39.639 two first round games, two teams that he never should have lost too. 656 00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.159 Uh, you know there still learned things along the way. Hey man. 657 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:49.880 The seventy six is are big trouble. They're down nineteen to eleven, three 658 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.639 shots of the turnover, three shots and they're playing on the road, right, 659 00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:57.880 they're playing. They could lose this game. This is one of those 660 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:02.760 games, big game for you to I man, Golden Golden State three to 661 00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:07.599 sixty six and a half point favorites. Uh win by the money line, 662 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.039 right, they just have to win, just have to win. But they 663 00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:14.880 may not. Who knows. Um um, we'll see what happens. Don't 664 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:17.400 don't don't do it. Another thing you need to know, they're said, 665 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:23.480 is uh sid it si sid he go? You tell him no, you 666 00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.199 tell him I want to hear from I want to hear how you describe that 667 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.519 he is the kiss of death. Do not tell him what you bet do 668 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.280 not tell him who you like, because he like it and you're dead. 669 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.960 He's nurse. He has a big curse. Most of the guys he drafts 670 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:44.440 in in MLB get hurt at some point, have bad years after not having 671 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.920 bad years. In fact, we had a we had a uh NC double 672 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:53.480 a picking pool with Jeff Kings. I call it the kod Killers because yeah, 673 00:43:54.239 --> 00:44:00.119 that and it's documented. I'm not joking. This is documented. That's 674 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.880 what the skull is about. On the desk here, Oh I see now 675 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:07.719 that's our that's our, that's our. KAO sull's rub I try to rub 676 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.480 it for good luck, and you're exaggerate. I'm in last place in my 677 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.639 fantasy baseball league. All right. I've got Juan Soto, one of the 678 00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:20.000 best players in Major League Baseball, who is currently batting one ninety seven. 679 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.559 He's got voodoo dolls in his house. We gotta show this. I know 680 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.159 he does. I had Walker Buller last year. He's not gonna pitch until 681 00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.599 next year. Yeah. I think you have the Dodger curse too. I 682 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.840 think, yeah, well he's not allowed to pick any Dodgers anymore. Right, 683 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.119 your son told well, he's told me not I still got some on 684 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.400 my team, you know. But uh uh yeah, I got Will Smith. 685 00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:44.360 He's having a great year. But he's on the il now. He 686 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:52.119 got a concussion. Of course I do. It's a thing. It's officially 687 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:53.960 a thing. So don't tell him anything until you've already kind of completed the 688 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.559 game. So by the way, just then he'll get on it and then 689 00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.280 you're done done, wait to share with you. Wait, all right, 690 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.519 right, all right? But no, but uh well, the Dogs, 691 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.880 I mean, the Dodgers aren't aren't good right now because for a lot of 692 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:12.000 reasons, not because of me. So the t starts tonight tonight. Back 693 00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:14.880 to the lineup in Phoenix. I think they're in Phoenix. Where they're at? 694 00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.119 I think they're in Phoenix. Um, so we'll see what they do. 695 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:29.960 Ye enough, set how many seven? Yeah, that San Diego is 696 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.760 at Arizona tonight, and that is is in the uh is in the batting 697 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.840 order for the first time in eighty games. Right, shouldn't be fun. 698 00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:39.800 We'll see what happens. Okay, again, if anybody wants to call, 699 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:45.400 we have seven minutes five two o seven five two four seventy and I want 700 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:54.599 you can call some hotline somewhere alright. No, I you know, talking 701 00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:58.039 about the Dodgers a little bit, and I know we've got some Dodger listeners 702 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.920 out there, but um, you know, they're just they just don't have 703 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:04.480 the punch in their lineup that they've had the last several years. And even 704 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.360 though a guy like like um, um Cody Bellinger, right, he's he 705 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.159 was crapped the last two years after winning the MVP, but he was still 706 00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:14.639 a threat in the lineup. You know, Justin Turner has gone. I 707 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:16.599 got to I saw him. I actually went to Finnway to go to see 708 00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:20.679 him there. I got a couple of base hits. Um, you know, 709 00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:22.000 but there's some key guys are going. Trey Turner, you know, 710 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.199 going and signed a big contract with the Phillies. So, uh you know, 711 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.480 they got three good hitters at the top of the order. And that's 712 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.519 kind of like that's all they have young guys right now too, or a 713 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:34.880 bunch of young guys trying to figure it out. But they're they're they're middle 714 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:39.360 infielders uh Vargas and uh Rojas. They're both batting under two hundred. You 715 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:43.159 can't have three guys in your line up batting under two hundred like they have. 716 00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.440 There will be a move made. I think they need an upgrade for 717 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:49.760 sure. They need some help. They definitely need some help. They're nine 718 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.960 and ten right now, which is just not or the Dodgers ought to be 719 00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:59.280 so Jay, did you see espn uh the other story on Robinsona Bijan. 720 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.320 Yeah, we're trying to get him on the show. He was on Dan 721 00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:05.480 Patrick this morning and then I think he was on Rich Eysen after that occasion. 722 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.039 He's doing the big shows. I mean, he's like, we're I 723 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:10.679 said another request today. I saw to see if we can get him on 724 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.679 the show. I saw who gotta call real quickly? Okay, hang on 725 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.960 higher on the air and I on the ball. Hey this is James. 726 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:22.079 James. What's up? How are you? How pretty good? How are 727 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:24.559 you guys? What's going on? Yeah? Ordered to touch base. I 728 00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:29.519 haven't heard all your episodes, but haven't heard much about the recruiting for the 729 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:32.000 basketball team for next year on what they're looking at. Doesn't seem like they 730 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:36.679 have many people recruited for next year. Yeah, they're just waiting now. 731 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:38.679 Yeah, well they got the k the kid kJ lewis coming in. Who's 732 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.920 supposed to be really good. He's the only high school recruit they've got right 733 00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.679 now. There's a lot of discussion that they're going to get that that point 734 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:52.519 guard out of Crayton because he was recruited uh brother. His brother was recruited 735 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:57.000 to Gonzaga when Tommy Lloyd was there, so there's a family connection. Then 736 00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.719 there's this kid, Carter Bryant, who's a six eight, two hundred twenty 737 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:05.159 five pound a wing player, who's like the number four player in the country, 738 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:12.599 who's down to Arizona Louisville and he's gonna announce his his uh his decision 739 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:17.719 live on the two four seven Sports YouTube page next Wednesday. So and there's 740 00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.880 a lot of discuss He's from California, so there's a lot a lot of 741 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:23.880 belief that he's gonna he's gonna come to Arizona. They get all three of 742 00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.559 those guys. That's a that's a really good recruiting. And there's also a 743 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.880 Lithuanian I that's pretty a tall stretch for Ish can shoot it. So there's 744 00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.079 that, and you know how Tommy is with the with the international players. 745 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:37.679 So I think there's still hope. I think a lot of people I don't 746 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:42.079 know if you're this guy, James, but are impatient right now? Yeah, 747 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.679 you're not hearing a lot. So you just look at the recruiting class 748 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.079 for twenty twenty three and they just said the final rankings for ESPN and not 749 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.199 one of you of a recruits in the top one hundred. I know we 750 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.880 only have one recruit, but yeah, so let me ask you, James, 751 00:48:53.880 --> 00:49:00.199 because you're a reasonable listener. Uh, there's the talent. You care 752 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.880 about the talent given what you've already gone through a lot teams that beat Arizona 753 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:06.800 don't have talent at all. Impick this way. Do you do you like 754 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.000 that let's go get as many five stars as we can get or how do 755 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:10.960 you how do you feel the show? And let me say this, James, 756 00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.480 and we remind you you were not a Sean Miller fan. Yeah, 757 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.280 so I like getting talent, but you have to get the right talent, 758 00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.360 the one that blends in with each other. I think little Olsen did a 759 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.280 good job of getting the right guys in the right spots to make a cohesive 760 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:30.559 team. I don't know if you guys seen that Gilbert Arenas's kid is one 761 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:34.360 of the top prospects for twenty twenty six class. He already has offers from 762 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.880 Texas, UCLA, Xavier, but Arizona is not out of the mix yet. 763 00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:39.920 Do you know anything about that nobody issue? I think is that's been 764 00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:44.679 mentioned as well. I haven't seen him. That would be interesting if that 765 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:46.239 would happen. I haven't seen him play. Have you seen him play? 766 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:50.920 I've seen a couple of games. He looks pretty good. He's six six 767 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:52.800 and probably still growing. He had like a fifty six point game one of 768 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.199 his games he had. He looks like a real prospect. I'm just curious 769 00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:59.800 why UA hasn't offered him yet. Yeah, don't know, don't know, 770 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.960 no idea, no idea. But you know, again, what are the 771 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.719 things that people are saying is that there there doesn't seem to be enough public 772 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.840 discussion or word out about you know, who Tommy Lloyd is after and stuff 773 00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:14.880 like that. So I think you've heard it out. We needed them, 774 00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.199 Yeah, but that, Yeah, that's kind of it. So I don't 775 00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:21.480 know that that's about all we got. Well, hopefully he can recruit, 776 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:22.880 because the best one thing millerd could do, I'll give him that he could 777 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.880 recruit every day of the week. It just I don't think he did the 778 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:28.239 XS and I was too great. But you guys do a great show, 779 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.559 and I'll talk to your say, Jim, James, hang on real quick, 780 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:31.960 because you followed the women very closely. He went to the final four 781 00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:36.960 two. What do you think? What do you think's happening there? Um 782 00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:38.320 yeah, I don't know. I think a lot of that has to do 783 00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:44.800 with nil deal and stuff like that potentially. Um yeah, it's tough to 784 00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.360 say, but you know, a d she uh started the program out with 785 00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:51.119 a with a good bang, and I have faith in her that she'll figure 786 00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.639 it out and uh get more wins next year. And she did pretty well 787 00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.119 overall. It just didn't go deep in the tournament. But I think she'll 788 00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.599 figure it out and with these new rules in place, uh find out a 789 00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:02.440 way to win. Okay, thanks James, Right, thanks much, James, 790 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:07.119 appreciate the call, Thanks for listening. Right, But let me say 791 00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:08.639 this to James, and we all love James. Right, he calls every 792 00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:13.559 now and again. Um, see his tone change with the same circumstances with 793 00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:19.280 Adia and Tommy. One was ill give some Tommy's What's what the hell is 794 00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.599 going on? Yeah? And and there I think their situations are very similar. 795 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:27.079 I mean, right, they've lost, they've lost a lot of players, 796 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.360 and they got to go out and replant this same thing, but which 797 00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.119 is no different than it really any other programs. Sure, no, no, 798 00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:36.840 no, this talent thing, I get it. Loot Loot got talented 799 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.440 players, but he also got guys that fit in. Right. Um, 800 00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.360 I think that's what Tommy's gonna start to do, what is doing, but 801 00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:45.400 starting to do it, you know, and you've got to sprinkling, you 802 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.880 know, the highly talented player. If they get this kid Carter Bryant, 803 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.920 right, he's here one year, right, yeah, yeah, we don't 804 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.719 know what he's really good. But I mean I don't. I haven't looked 805 00:51:54.760 --> 00:52:00.239 to see if if he's on the draft mocks drafts for next year. You 806 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.519 jay, if they got if he got, this's not gonna happen. If 807 00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:06.960 he got three or four of those guys, three of those guys, do 808 00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:08.679 you want to go through that again? I do not. I don't think 809 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.199 anybody, absolutely do not. I think you need maybe one who's just an 810 00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.840 incredibly talented guy who just makes your team better, But I don't think he 811 00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:20.880 can have a team full up. Do you think that if Zoo did not 812 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:22.599 have the year that he had, do you think he would have jumped? 813 00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.840 He's still the same player. Yeah, he's still the same player. If 814 00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.119 he had this year, he didn't have this year, yeah, I don't 815 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.639 excuse me. I don't know, because he'd be back for another year. 816 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:36.440 Yeah, I think he would have jumped. I think he was tired of 817 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.320 being a year I do. I think he was tired of being I think 818 00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:43.119 I think it's tired of being in college. Um, he was ready to 819 00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:45.199 go out and try and you know, make a living at this thing. 820 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.679 And he thinks he can somewhere, somewhere because I think he knows he's got 821 00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:51.840 options. If the again, if the worst case scenario that he goes home, 822 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:55.800 then he goes home. All right, that's our show. We'll be 823 00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:00.239 back tomorrow. We're supposed to have Dave Hiky on the show. Let you 824 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.239 know, keep an on our social media, listen to the podcast, and 825 00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:07.880 we'll come back again. So thanks for being here. M