Eighteen out of twenty two previously to the Jet Cardinals, and sheets from thirty
eight yards away from the left hash to win the game for the Texans.
The snap, the swing of the right leg, the kick is up,
and the kick is good. The clock hit zero and the Texans celebrates.
They have defeated the Bengals by the final score of thirty to twenty seven.
Now I have Billy Cunningham, the Great American the debacle yesterday and the fallout
continues. Later on, we have brad Winstrip, Moegar's good friend, who's
the US Congressman. Moeger will respond to that appropriately. Later on, we
have an expert guest at two o'clock who says that it's possible for a six
month old baby to be a racist, and you must you must have an
anti racist baby. Moegar. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
can I first give you my opening remarks? Of course, it's your show.
You do whatever you want. Hostechxon's I think had a quarterback yesterday playing
named Warren Moon and it was handing off to Earl Campbell. I kind of
look at the statistics here, how about five hundred and forty five yards a
total offense for Houston Texans. How about C. J. Stroud, who
was taken second in the draft, not first because there was questions about him.
Throws for about three hundred and fifty yards. It's twenty three of forty.
The QBR had to be over four hundred and ten. And then you
have Earl Campbell, also known as this singletary dude, rushing for one hundred
and fifty yards one hundred and eighty eight yards overall. And the Bengals now
find themselves in last place, firmly affixed. Watching some of the morning talk
shows, it appears that it's going to be Armageddon on Thursday night. Only
one team will survive. Of course, the Ravens are still in first place,
and if they lose, there are much better shape than the Bengals.
And right now they're five and four, which is what they were the last
two years. You may know that, but this year it just feels differently.
You have a Pits team that's six and three that looks terrible on paper,
but they keep winning football games. You got the bult you got the
Cleveland Brownies. They look terrible, except they're also six and three, and
they got a much easier schedule that the Bengals are playing every team from the
eighty five Bears through the five Patriots. They have to win basically six of
the next eight. Moe, tell me why I should have hope. Tell
me why I'm not in despair. Tell me Joe Burrow has not been bengalized.
Go well, So, to me, yesterday was about three things.
The first thing yesterday it was about the Houston Texans. You know, if
I'm looking at this from a more objective perspective where I'm not focusing so much
on the team that lost, the takeaway for me was CJ. Stroud is
the guy. And I know you know he threw the pick late in the
game. It was just his second this year. There's nothing better. And
we know this feeling here, Willy, as an NFL fan, there's nothing
better than feeling like, you know what, we got our guy, Because
once you got your guy at quarterback, it's not easy, but it's a
lot easier to fill in around him than if you don't have a guy.
So to me, the way that they move the ball, Devin Singletary comes
off the street. He was terrific. But more than anything, it was
about a Texans team that is going in the right direction. That's number one.
Number two, this is a reason to not feel despair what the Bengals
did yesterday to themselves. There were a lot of sort of outlary things.
Joe Burrow made some uncharacteristic mistakes. I count on Joe to not repeat those
mistakes. Tyler Boyd drops a pass in the end zone that if he catches,
chances are we're talking about a terrific Bengals comeback victory. And we're excited
about Thursday playing a Baltimore team than just lost. If they're in a similar
position on Thursday and Tyler Boyd's open, his track record suggests I should trust
him to catch that football. I also feel like there's a track record with
lou An Arumo's defense. Look late in the game, it's twenty seven.
All get off the field, let's go to overtime and win. They couldn't
do it. That felt somewhat outlary to me, although we have to revisit
that here in a second. I think the third thing that yesterday was about,
though, was math. At five and four, you can't go five
and five if you want to win the division. Now you have to win
this game on Thursday. If you lose on Thursday, you're going to lose
a game against Baltimore in the standings. You're gonna lose a game against either
Cleveland or Pittsburgh in the standings. Yesterday to me was also about, is
that a game that we revisit, a winnable game at home in which you
were nearly a touchdown favorite and you mount this awesome comeback late in the season.
Do the Bengals lose a playoff berth by a game? Do the Bengals
lose playoff positioning by a game and maybe have to go on the road in
the playoffs and play somebody? Or had they won that game yesterday they're playing
at Pey Corps Stadium, do they miss out on a division title by the
narrowest of margins? And do we go back and look at that game yesterday
that was so winnable and go God, had that game against Houston gone any
better, maybe this team would be sitting atop the AFC North that game.
To me, let's re visit it later, because from a pure football perspective,
if what we saw yesterday becomes the norm with Joe making all sorts of
mistakes and the Bengals not able to execute critically down the stretch in lou Anarumo's
defense, bending too much, then yesterday becomes the turning point. But I
prefer to say, look, we saw some outliery things. This team's going
to be okay. Big picture, they have more than a puncher's chance to
beat Baltimore, and they may and if they do, we're gonna feel a
lot better. But by the time they've played seventeen games, how much do
we go back and look at what happened against the Texans and wonder how they're
positioning, how their season could have ended differently had they won that football game.
We spoke a few days ago. Houston was hosting the Bearcats and Cincinnati
was Hope hosting Houston. Here, when I look at some of the statistics,
you deal with the poetry. I deal with the facts. Four sacks
of Joe Burrow, including being hit nine times. That's about thirteen times he
was running for his life. There was some play call near the end of
the game and which Joe Burrow appeared to have called or called in his helmet,
so to speak, a quarterback draw. And I'm thinking, no,
wait a minute, you're like on the ten yard line and you got a
quarterback draw, and you have Joe Burrow about to get his head taken off
by the Houston defense. An offensive line that's costing about a billion dollars,
allowing thirteen occasions when he was hit or sacked, plus the number of times
he had to rush the ball, that's a problem. And so offensive line
for the Texans did better as opposed to ours. The quarterback, believe it
or not, did better as opposed to ours. Overall, the defense for
the Bengals gave up five hundred and forty five yards, which is unbelievable.
They were terrible. There were wide receivers running loose in the secondary constantly,
you have a situation where on offensis. In general, the eye test gave
me the idea that the Bengals are playing a better team, and it just
looked like the eye test, the Texans were much better. And on top
of that, the fact that Mike Tomblin and Pittsburgh somehow found a way to
win. The Bengals are a much better ball club than the Pittsburgh Steelers.
I think the Bengals are a better ball club than the Cleveland Browns, although
they always beat them. Do you agree with my math that at the next
eight games is Ford home, four in the road, that Ben Galley's must
go at a minimum six and two against a death schedule to get to the
wild card, assuming they win or lose on Thursday. Well, I don't
know. Six and two would mean they finished with eleven wins. Now,
I think you're going to have to win eleven games to win the AFC North.
I don't think eleven wins. You know, remember we have one more
wildcard team per conference. I don't think eleven wins is going to be required
to get the seven seed. Now. You know. Look, let's say
the Texans catch fire and the Bengals and Texans have the same record and they're
both fighting for the last seed in the AFC Wildcard pitcher. Well, then
Houston's going to win the head to head tiebreaker. We'll see how that unfolds.
I think if they five, if they win five more games the rest
of the way, they're going to be okay and at least be a playoff
team. But let's be honest, Simply making the playoffs this year wasn't the
idea. The idea was to win a Championship. We all said at the
end of last season, don't want to have to go back to Arrowhead Stadium
in play, don't want to play the AFC Championship game on the road.
Don't want to have to go and try to win all these road games they've
been so good at winning. Let's play some more playoff games at home.
Well, the chances of that happening the more you lose, obviously, the
decrease. I think the big thing for me is and the offensive line is
complicit in this. Obviously, the Bengals have been really good at scoring on
their first touchdown drive, or scoring on their first drive, scoring a touchdown
on the first drive, and they've done a good job scoring on their second
drive, and then they go to sleep offensively yesterday five consecutive punts, and
then they pick things back up late in the game. Now again, some
teams that can work. It almost worked against the Texans yesterday. It worked
to a degree, I guess against the Buffalo Bills. But in the sort
of games that we want this team to win, is that gonna work on
Thursday? Where you just go into these long, prolonged stretches where you're not
even moving the football, much less scoring points. I don't think the answer
is yes. And this has now been this has been something that is I
think offensively kind of dominated much of the season. They come out hot and
then they go to sleep for way too long. Not good. That can't
be the norm. Unfortunately it's becoming the norm. Well, here we said
broken hearted, and I'm thinking, Okay, bengaled and must arise like a
mighty tsunami in difficult circumstances. I think they're gonna be favored and to lose
only in about two of the remaining games. I guess in Kansas City as
the line out. Yet on Thursday night with Baltimore, I would assume they're
a couple of three point underdog. Yeah. The last I looked, and
I'm pulling it up right now, I saw last night it was it was
five. The Bengals were underdogs. Those thing things tend to move. We've
seen a lot of movement. Right now, I'm looking at Baltimore. Baltimore
is laying four points, four points, and that might have been what I
saw last night. Baltimore is laying four points. O. T. Higgins
don't know about him, likely not if he couldn't play on Sunday. I
don't think ninety six hours later he's gonna but that'd be great if he came
back. Tyler Board is inconsolable. And the one to pay attention to is
Trey Hendrickson, who on the last play from scrimmage obviously you know, hit
the deck. Ian Rapaport of NFL Network this morning said it's a hyper extended
knee. So there's good news there. We're not talking about a tear or
an ACL tear or anything like that. It feels like the kind of injury
that he's gonna be able to come back from. But can he come back
in time to play on Thursday? You know, you just saw what this
defense look like without Sam Hubbard. What if you have to play against Lamar
Jackson without Trey Hendrickson and Sam Hubbard this game on Thursday. If I would
have said yesterday morning, Willie, the Bengals are gonna split their next two.
Now, you would have said, okay, that means they win right
against Houston lose to Baltimore, said okay, well, okay, that can
work. Now you've got to win this game on Thursday against the Raven.
It's a death match from the Bengal perspective, I think Baltimore, they're seven
and three. They can lose and me seven and four and keep going.
Looking at the future schedule, the Bengals have a terrible future schedule as opposed
to Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Baltimore. It's terrible, and they're gonna have to
play at the highest level. They're gonna be played like they played against the
Buffalo. They're gonna have to play at the highest level imaginable to win six
of the next eight, to win at Baltimore, to win at Kansas City,
those are not easy. And then also you have Pittsburgh. They got
to win at Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh's here for some reason. Pittsburgh's always had
the Bengals number. How they're doing it this year six and three is beyond
me. I mean, they're terrible, except they must have the greatest coach
in the history. I thought Chuck Nole was good, but I tend to
think Mike Tomlin might be better because he, I mean, Chuck Nole did
it with all time greats. And talk about the defense of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Who knows who those guys are? And basically he's got them playing good
and it's unbelievable. Can you tell me again why Joe Burrow did a quarterback
drawl at the end of the game. Can you tell me that. I
can't. It had to be something that he saw. But you're right in
talking about the math. If they lose this game on Thursday, you know,
just again do the math. They're five and five, Baltimore will be
sitting there with eight wins, and they will have beaten you twice, which
means they win the head to head tiebreakers. So just call it what it
is. If they lose on Thursday, we're talking about the Bengals making the
playoffs as a wild card team, which means you're playing on the road in
Round one. If you lose on Thursday, you're going to lose not only
a game to the Baltimore Ravens, but you're sitting a game behind Pittsburgh in
Cleveland. One of those teams is going to win because they play against each
other. So if you lose this game on Thursday, all right, not
only are you three games behind Baltimore in the win column and we'll have lost
the head to head tiebreaker, you're going to be two games behind the second
place team of the division and still a game behind the third place team of
the division and sitting there at five and five. What you didn't want to
do was create a scenario where winning in Baltimore was a must and unfortunately because
they lost yesterday. If you're harboring hopes that the Bengals are going to win
the division now they have to go to Baltimore and win on Thursday, and
perhaps do it without their top two defensive lineman, well, the best place
for the Bengals to be in the fourth quarter of Thursday night is fourteen points
down. If somehow the Bengals could be fourteen points down, guess what,
They're going to win the game because Baltimore stinks at the end of the game.
That is ridiculous, utterly ridiculous. Well, yeah, I think there's
two things about the game yesterday. Don't ignore the fact that the Ravens scored
thirty one points on a terrific Cleveland defense. Also, don't ignore the fact,
and this is scary, Deshaun Watson was really really good in the fourth
quarter of yesterday's game. That's a Browns team. Say what you want about
not having Nick Chubb. The weirdness of the quarterback situation. They're a half
game out of first place. They have a head to head victory against Baltimore.
They split the season series. And what did we all say after that
first game, the boy the Browns, they're just a bad matchup for the
Bengals. Well, guess who the Bengals have to play Week eighteen. They
have to play the Cleveland Browns. So you know, the Ravens did fall
apart in the fourth quarter yesterday. I sort of made similar to yesterday's game
here in Cincinnati. I kind of made what happened in the fourth quarter in
Baltimore more about the Browns than the Baltimore Ravens. Regardless, you still have
to play against the Lamar Jackson. You still have to play against the Baltimore
team. Even when they were beaten up last year playing without Lamar. Heck,
they nearly won that playoff game played in Cincinnati. They were the better
team when they played Week two. They're playing on a short week at home,
coming off a loss. This is going to be a formidable challenge.
If the Bengals clear it, I think we're gonna go. You know what,
all things good here. We're six and four now, the season can
take off, lose this one on Thursday, and again we're talking about the
Bengals in relation to the team's chasing a wild card spot and the Bengals this
year, about halfway through the season, they won a total of one game
against an AFC opponent. One time. They've beaten the AFC halfway through,
which is really almost unbelievable. All right, Mo, we gotta go,
but dark days lie ahead. I'm not optimistic about this thing. I worry
about Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor becoming bengalized. They just have that vacant look
in their eye. When Joe was on the bench looking at I guess looking
at his iPad, whatever he's looking at, he had that far distant look
in his eye, thinking what the hell's going on? The quarterback drawl didn't
work, and I'm thinking, but as he almost brought his team by me.
Look, Joe wasn't great yesterday, but no, he throws a touchdown
past the Tyler boyd that if he catches it. The story today is about
how clutch Joe Burrow was, how Cam Taylor Britt made an interception that turned
the game around, on how the Bengals figured out away at the end.
And you hate to make it about one play, but Tyler Boyd, who's
very reliable, very shorthanded, he catches that pass. That the story is
different. Nobody's talking about Joe being bengalized. Unfortunately he didn't. And now
what comes to the forefront are all the things that led to the loss,
all those terrible memories of a ghost. I mean, they're just kind of
seeping in the back. I hear the distant thunder and lightning and dark clouds.
They're kind of forming over Ellesmere and I just sensed it. I can
just feel it, you know. And I hope that's not the case.
But I would have caught that ball. Mo. You put me on the
field at the goal line, I would have caught that pass. Now I
don't have any doubt. Now here's my question for you, changing topics,
very very slightly, go ahead, your beloved Xavier Musketeers. Tonight opportunity to
play a team ranked in the top three of both major polls. Did you
even know that game was taking place tonight? Let's take a short break,
and moeh, I want to thank you for coming on again. And I
got my comments about Israel coming up? Do you want to weigh in on
Israel? I won't weigh in on Xavier if you don't weigh in on Israel
I fudge Sunday. I'll take Sean Miller. You take Matt Paynter, hot
fudge Sunday. What do you think? How many points? How many points?
Well, now you're gonna make me look this up. Aren't you give
me points? I need points. I'm like a democrat and I need some
unfair advantage. Give me the point Savior is getting a Xavier is getting seventeen
and a half points tonight. I'll take it. In fact, I'll bet
you too. I get seventeen and a half points and Sean Miller for a
hot fudge Sunday. I'm not in tomorrow because I'm doing my show at the
Morelin Logger House. I'm in on Wednesday. I get Xavier. Tonight,
I got Xavior. I got Xavior. I'm Xavier. I got just a
minute ago you wanted nothing to do with him, and then I tell you
to and a half. I'll take the points, all right, I'll take
Purdue, all right, produce no good all there, bunch of engineers,
a bunch of bunch of skinny white guys with Harry legs. I'm taking Xavier
plus the points. Write that down, Tony Bell, write that done to
produe that I could have. Yes, I was a pencil neck geek with
a ruler and my front pocket and a pencil behind my ear. All right,
Mo, thank you very much for your analysis. Joe Burrow is not
yet Bengalized. Okay, see you Willie thank him. Oh all right,
let's continue. Moe didn't want to talk about Israel, but I will on
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coming up at one six today is the great Congressman brad Winstrip. We've been
blessed to have back to back congressman like Rob Portman, and now we have
the Great brad Weinstrip and others. Jeanie Schmidt did a pretty damn good job
also in my humble opinion, But nonetheless, he announced on Thursday he was
giving up his seat. It's a very safe Republican seat. He generally gets
about seventy percent of the vote. He retired from the military about six months
ago as a colonel. He's been a doctor for about thirty five years.
And of course he's a congressman, a father, and a husband. He's
got two kids under the age of ten, so Heed, he says,
spend time with them and his wife. You know, I get completely So
I'm not going to do exactly an exit interview with him in about twenty minutes
because he has another thirteen or fourteen months to go. He's not quitting now.
He's simply, he's not going to run for reelection next year. The
primary sometime like in the middle of March, so he wanted to give any
potential candidates four or five months to get their act together to file in that
district, which is Claremont County east of that and a little bit north of
that, and so be it. I wish him well. And Politico dot
Com did a ranking of the most important congressman in Washington, and normally you
got to be there twenty years before you get a sniff. Where Brad Weinstrip
was picked as one of the top ten United States Congressmen in Washington, even
though he's only been there about eleven years. It's because he works across the
aisle. He's bright, puts in the time, works about seventy to eighty
hours a week, and you get burned out. So all I can say
is congratulations, and we're going to get them on as much as we can
the next thirteen or fourteen months, because he is consequential. Secondly, I'm
watching one of the talk shows this morning, and it is considered standard operating
procedure when a Jew leaves a dormitory or a house to walk to class.
That large numbers of AMAS sympathizers will get around that Jewish student male or female
with bullhorns and start yelling at them anisomitic slurs, using f bombs and more
to make their life uncomfortable in class. There are demonstrations, especially in the
Ivy League, breaking out on history class or mathematics class, shouting animitic slurs
to Jewish students inside the class. And you know, in Los Angeles last
week there was a sixty nine year old Jewish male who was beaten to death
with a bullhorn and die. It is common now, especially on college campuses
and in downtown New York or Chicago or Los Angeles, to physically attack Jews
wherever they can be found. Also, I found this morning that to Israel
has called on Hamas to surrender the Sifa hospital base as the US begins striking
Iranian proxies in Syria. By that, I mean the Shifa Hospital was in
complete collapse because beneath the Shifa Hospital is ten to fifteen layers floors of the
Hamas command structure, which by itself is a war crime by Hamas. So
Hamas locates their command centers underneath hospitals and schools. And other apartment buildings,
so that when the Israelis try to respond in a surgical fashion, if there's
individuals killed, they can continue to have their friends in the media publicize that
fact and away we go. Hamas claims that there are no bases underneath the
Shifa Hospital, which is a lie because at some point it is going to
become a parent with video evidence that they always place their command structures, paid
for generally by Europeans and Americans, under hospital's, apartment buildings and schools because
it makes it more difficult for Israelis to respond when they start a war.
I also would note you may recall that at one point Sodom Mussein, when
he was still in power, used a large amount of nerve gas to kill
his own people. There were men, women, and children thousands that were
killed in villages that did not have support from Sada Mussein. And at that
point, how much criticisms does Sodom Mussein receive from the United Nations or from
the left wing Hamas chapters on college campuses. They didn't do a damn thing
about the men, women, children, and babies killed by Sodom Mussein in
the Middle East. It also might recall that in Syria three four or five
years ago, bashar Asad, now leading Assyria, also used nerve gas dropped
from airplanes and artillery shells to kill as many opponents as he could, and
that that number went into well into the tens of thousands Muslims killing Muslims with
nerve gas, artillery shells and bombs. Did you hear from the Hamas chapters
of any college university at that point or the un Absolutely not. I watched
over the weekend a CNN report that it is common in Muslim Arab countries five
hundred million live, whether it's Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, or Jordan,
or Libya or Egypt, it is common to have a father to sell is
nine ten eleven year old daughter as a bride to marry some fat dude in
their thirties or forties. The marriage takes place that the father delivers up as
eleven year old daughter to a cleric and the little eleven year old girl is
crying as she puts down a fingerprint and a photos taken. She signs a
form and suddenly she's married for the first time to someone twenty years older than
her and the father gets money. Now, how much reporting on this have
you seen? It? Has comped millions and millions of girls and the Muslim
Arab world live a life such as that. And after two, three or
four years, if she's not living up to snuff the way that the husband
demands, he'll take her back to that cleric and get a quickie divorce.
And then she can't get married again because she's lost her virginity at the age
of eleven. Is that a human rights violation? Is that sexual slavery?
Is that in a sense human trafficking? Absolutely? And how much reporting is
there of that in Western societies? Or how many of these women great number
of these protesters about sixty five percent of females protests. That isn't that about
the most disgusting, worst thing you could ever imagine? And once she is
divorced, she lives a life of sexual indentured servitude to the cleric himself or
other men come for a weekend of happiness, marriage for a weekend, and
that girl has passed around. And that happens on a regular basis in air
of Muslim countries all over the Middle East, who serve on human rights committees
for the United Nations. How about that so when nerve gas is used on
their own people, the UN says nothing. But when Israel uses tear gas,
international rebuke takes place. So when Hamas kills Jews, it's called the
beginning of a war. When Israel responds, it's a war crime. And
it goes on and on and on. In the last few days, thousands
of gallons of fuel has been delivered to this chief of hospital in Gaza.
It was taken by Hamas for war purposes. When medical supplies are given,
it is stolen by Hamas to use for the war. When food is delivered,
they take it away from the Gaza residence and use it for themselves.
There could be as many as thirty to fifty thousand Hamas fighter as still alive.
They're using all the all the water, the food that they can in
order to kill Jews and to hell with their own people. So don't tell
me about how innocent and how good and how this war and how Israel is
always to blame no matter what they do. And at Harvard that many consider
to be a great university, may not include it. There was a petition
signed by thirty one student groups with some four hundred Harvard students quote, we
the undersign Harvard student organizations and persons hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all
unfolding violence in Gosa. All there, you got it. No matter what
it is, blame the Jew. In short, Israel seeks to minimize civilian
casualties whenever they can. Well, how Moss seeks to maximize civilian casualties.
But Israel is always guilty. Israel is to blame constantly, forever, no
matter what it is. Take short break. When we continue, Congressman Brad
Winster will be here, and so Israeli's worn that Hamas is below schools,
below hospitals, several hundreds of feet below apartment buildings. Get out, They'll
call the residents sing leave. And then when they respond to another Hamas attack
by taking down the apartment building on top of their headquarters. Gets what that's
ignored by the mainstream media. Blame the Jew. Blame the Jew. Jews
are hated for being rich and for being poor. Jews are hated for being
powerful and for being weak. Jews are hated when they're victims, and they're
hated when they're the victors. No matter what it is, blame the Jew,
and it works at least in the Arab world. Well, guess what,
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the Ways and Means Committee, he's on the Intelligence committee. He's chair of
a subcommittee looking into the origins of COVID nineteen. But most importantly, Politico
and others have said he's one of the top ten US Congressmen from either party
of the four hundred and thirty five. He's in the top ten because of
his influence and his committee assignment's ability to walk across the island, deal with
Democrats at times, and he's well respected. So it's said to lose people
like this. He's got one more year to serve and Congressman Brad Winster,
welcome, I think, for one of the final times as a Congressman to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you tell the American people why you decided
to make this at this point. You announced that I think on Thursday,
four days ago. And why are you leaving Congress at the end of your
term. Well, first of all, yeah, we've got fourteen more months
to go, and I plan to run through the tape because we've got a
lot to do, and I hope to get a lot of things done when
it comes to dealing with the pandemic and how we deal with one in the
future, as well as how we can make America a healthier nation, not
just to have a health care policy, but actually be a healthy nation,
and can continue to work on national security. And I think at the end
of this term there'll be opportunities out there to continue to stay in the game,
not necessarily in an elected position. So we'll see what comes our way.
But a lot of that had to do with family. I've got young
kids and I miss him, and so that's a big part of it.
And you know, Congress is hectic. We know that going in. When
I started twelve years ago, I didn't have any kids, and now I
have two, and I want to make sure that I'm there because I think
one of the most important things things that we can do in America is be
good parents. And sometimes fathers aren't present as much as they should be.
And my kids want me around, and I want to be there. And
you know, I was reminded a while back by one of my surgeon mentors
that I was taught by as a physician, and he said, you don't
have to be someone somewhere else as long as you're somebody at home. And
I've always believed in God, family, and country in that order, and
I'll continue to work on all three as far as the typical life of a
US congressman, many many years ago, before you took office, I met
with a congressman at that point, Congressman Rob Portman, and I had sites
of maybe running for that seat. And he said, before you do it,
I want to meet with you. I said, Rob, I love
to meet with you. And I met with him. I said, he
said, let me show you my schedule. I said, okay, let
me see your schedule. He left on an early flight on Monday morning.
He was in Washington by about ten am eleven am on Monday. If he
had something going on early Monday. He left on Sunday and he stayed there
until Thursday night. On Friday, he showed me a schedule in Washington.
He was on four committees. He showed me the appointments he had coming up
the next week. He showed me the presentations, the speeches. And the
worst part about the job, he said, was cold calling people to get
money. That as a relatively new US congressman, I had to go into
a soundproof booth. Gave me a list of people to call and shake them
down legally of course, for money. And then he showed me when I
got back on Thursday night of Friday. I had at that particular weekend seventeen
appearances on Friday, Saturday, and part of Sunday. Do you run a
similar schedule pretty much, except that I have to say I've been in a
position one way or another that I actually have fundraising teams that do most of
that work. I mean, I will have events, and I will have
meetings and this and that, but I don't do a lot of the phone
calling. It's set up and we seek it another way. So I've been
fortunate. It's not that way necessarily every district, but we've been able to
work it that way. But otherwise, Yes, one time I wore a
fit bit and I was doing between thirteen and eighteen thousand steps a day in
the Capitol, just going from one committee to the next. So you get
a pretty good idea. It's not a desk job, that's for sure,
although you do spend other hours at your desk doing a lot of work,
and it's been enjoyable work, there's no doubt. But I'm not leaving bitter
or anything like that. I know democracy can be very messy. I think
it's messier right now than it has been in the past, But that doesn't
mean we can't get things done. You cited those other articles. I think
that sometimes when you do things, you get them done quietly. You're not
necessarily on TV talking about them. And I think that as a doctor and
as a veteran, you can bring a lot more to the table on issues
that involving health in military and that's where we get things done, and sometimes
bipartisan with other doctors and other veterans, and so I think that had something
to do. But if you take a common sense approach to a lot of
things, and you work on being persuasive rather than bombastic, you can really
get things done. And I have a Reagan quote on my desk. It
said there's no limit to what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets
the credit. Yeah, no question. You're one of the top ten,
maybe the top five or six. You're up there in my book with Congress
from Jim Jordan. People like that have great respect for You've been called a
doctor for about thirty thirty five years. You've been called a colonel recently promoted.
You were in the military twenty five years and now a congressman, but
for about twelve years. So you're a doctor, a colonel, a congressman,
But the most important thing you've been called is dad or honey. That's
right from your wife, correct too. I want to keep that one going
for sure, you know. But yeah, it's it's it's true. It's
it's music to my ears when I hear the kids, you know, call
me dad. I got married late. Didn't know if I'd ever hear that,
so I'm thrilled to have it. And you know, there was a
time when the kids weren't going to school yet where we drove back and forth
every week too, to add to it, but the kids were good in
the car. They watched Andy Griffiths and they know that show. So we're
trying to do things best we can. Willy, what are you going to
do, because you're still a relatively young man. Are you gonna back into
practice. You're retired from the military as a colonel, you're retired as a
congressman. Are you going to be a doctor. I'll always be a doctor
in some way, shape or form. We'll see. I don't know if
it'll be full time practice like before, but at the same time, I
think that there'll be avenues to be engaged in the health arena as well as
the national security arena. And at the same time, I think there's going
to be some things that you can do locally, philanthropically or just making good
connections for people, because I think there's a lot of things you can do
if you don't wait for Washington, we can do it better privately than if
Washington tries to do it. All right, Congressman Brad Winschall, let's go
on to some of the issues. On Friday, all hell could break loose
again. It appears that the proposals of Speaker of the House Johnson to break
this thing down into two parts. A part of it would be a valot
until January, then part would be February. He doesn't want to tie everything
together the one hundred and six billion dollars, which is a credit card debt.
On top of the credit card debt, what's going to happen between now
and Friday? Is there going to be another government shutdown? Well, when
nobody runs to shut down, I can tell you that. But what we
want to do is put things in place to start with better process, and
we've seen over the last several years. What we don't want to see is
a bill at the end of the year. That's a huge garbage pail where
everything gets thrown into it and it gets passed, and usually it's an increase
in spending, and so we want to paste this out. We've been actually
working in our committees in the House, not much in the Senate, but
in the House to go ahead and come up with our appropriations bills, our
actual spending bills where we actually say this is where we want to spend money.
And so what's being proposed is to extend government funding in two steps.
Go with four appropriations bills that will extend to January nineteenth, and then the
remaining eight bills extend until February second. That doesn't mean we haven't done these
things in the House and aren't close to completing the all, but understand that
when we get it done in the House, then has to go to the
Senate or the Senate has to bring theirs to the table and we go to
conference and then it goes to the President. So we're buying time, and
you know, we also have a bill in place so if we get into
jail where there's an automatic one percent cut, at the same time, we're
going to make sure that we can adequately fund our military and can engage with
some of the situations we have going on around the world, But a one
percent cut on most other areas would be just fine with me because we have
a lot of unnecessary spending. The bottom line is we have to get back
to a process where we are really acting like a business like CEOs and getting
together and deciding how we're going to spend our money and address our debt.
It is one of our greatest risks. The trajectory is unsustainable. Moody's has
put the US credit rating on a downgrade watch. You know, it's a
negative outlook for the US credit rating, And we've got to do better in
managing our country. And at some point we also have to address mandatory spending.
Those are the things that are programs that money just goes out the door
without us ever looking at it, and they're taking over the pie. So
in addition to borrowing money, what we actually have keeps getting squnched as far
as the discretionary spending, which is what those appropriations bills are. But at
the same time, when you put a program in place, and you put
it in perpetuity, you've got to go back and look and see if it's
working and can it be sustainable. You have to look at numbers. You
have to look at how many people pay into the tax paying system, all
of these types of things. What does the next generation look like? That's
what actuaries do with insurance companies. That's what we have to do as a
nation. Are you shocked what's happening since October seventh about the Hamas chapters on
most US college campuses. One hundred thousand march to New York City, one
hundred and fifty thousand marched over the weekend in London. Are you shocked at
the blatant anti semitism you're seeing everywhere as if it's mainstream? Am I had?
You know, we knew we had problems on our campuses without a doubt,
But for people to be so one sided, they have so much hatred
and be able to completely ignore what Hamas did when they went into innocent civilians
in Israel, and I don't think we've seen anything like that in this world
since the Holocaust, to be honest with you, as far as brutal,
terrible behavior where you totally disregard someone's life, down to children, the atrocities
that were committed on and these groups seemed to be able to just ignore that.
And now we hear it call we now we hear a call for a
ceasefire. Bill, Well, there was a ceasefire. There was a ceasefire,
but Hamas Hamas negated it. Hamas went right in. Hamas went right
in and just took down innocent people. Took no prisoners, if you will,
except for some, and they're still held hostage, and no one seems
to want a comment on that. I've been for a two state solution for
some time, but you know what, this is interesting, Bill. We
were cleaning the house and a picture frame came open in the back and there
was old newspaper in there for nineteen ninety four Cincinnati enquire The sports section was
kind of fun because we just won opening days. This is April of ninety
four. Kevin Mitchell hit a home run. Anyway, But if you looked
at this, I went to page two of the front page and it was
the Israeli soldiers leaving Gaza. It was an article about them leaving Gaza and
they're being attacked, and they're being attacked by the youth who are throwing rocks
at them and chanting we don't want peace. Because the reporter, I don't
know if it was an AP reporter, they were like, well, why
are you doing this? You know they're they're leaving. They're leaving so there
can be peace. And then we don't want peace. This is the youth.
Well now what are they forty years old? Now you know who they
are. So this seems to be something taught. It seems to be within
that particular group. There is no there is no chance of peace. They
don't want peace. It's death or nothing else for Jews right now. And
you know, Israel has the right to defend itself and they should and we're
going to help them and as best we can. You know, the House
has passed a bill to fund them, and we also paid for it in
our time. We took some money from the Irs to be able to actually
that was already appropriated by Democrats. We took some of that money to pay
for you know, from the IRS, to pay for the funding for Israel
to defend itself. Yeah, and I would say this that that in this
country, I don't think things have been this bad since nineteen sixty eight,
with all the riots in nineteen sixty eight, the political assassinations, what happened
in Chicago, And here we are in twenty twenty three, and something got
screwed up three or four years ago. Maybe it was because the the George
Floyd riots. They weren't protest. They were riots in which cops were killed,
a couple billion dollars of value taken out of cities, complete collapse of
law and order. Whatever it was, George Soros to Marxist, whatever it
is, things have been completely screwed up. And now it's just seems like
riots, protests, knocking on the doors of the White House, bloody hands
all over the building from pro a Moaque demonstrators, Lafayette Statue vandalized. It's
happening in many, many major cities. I see the swastika put on NYPD
police cars over the weekend in order to, I guess, frighten the Jews.
Just massive lawlessness is happening everywhere. Everywhere I look, I see nothing
but crisis. You're in the belly of the beast. Is there a belief
in an apprehension in Washington, Congressman, that we are living in very perilous
times when it comes to spending by this country. The two in Europe and
in the Middle East. You have a complete breakdown of law and order on
the southern border. I saw on one of the morning morning shows today that
there's a school district in Texas near the border that has to have Narkham available
because they've had several overdoses. They think unwinningly of grade school kids. That
the prevalence of heroin, percoset and fentanyl is so ubiquitous that Narkham is being
handed out to seven and eight year olds to their parents in case they inadvertently
take fentanyl or purposely take percoset. If you're in high school, there is
something wrong in this country right now. We need people like you to stick
around. Brad winstrip I understand why you're leaving. But nonetheless, is there
a sense among among Republicans and Democrats in Washington that that that we are in
trouble? Yeah, there is a huge sense of it, I could say
so within the Republican Party. I think the Democrat party they understand it.
Matter of fact, I think more and more of them really want to do
something about the border. And especially when you start talking about fentanyl. There
are many over there, China's and the other threat that. Yeah, we
haven't even really talked about in this conversation, but we have many, many
times, and it's a big part of the problem. You know, I'll
still be in the fight, but I want to make sure my kids know
what America is really founded on what we have been and hopefully you know this.
This seems like more than just a little bit of a pendulum swing.
Is much greater than that, and we have to address that. And people
have to start understanding that America is being self destructed and also being destructed,
and it's happening on many, many fronts, and we have to continue to
go after that. But I don't think people are growing up with the right
education on many fronts, and that has been the problem when we've let it
happen. And you know what, this is the greatest country that's ever existed,
but you have to continue to live by the same principles, morals,
values and virtues that we have had for over two hundred years. And when
we start letting those go, then we have a problem. And if you're
going to disrespect the democracy, the only democracy in the Middle East, and
be okay with them being slaughtered and support those that are slaughtering them, this
is a sickness and it's a culture of death that is out there on many
fronts. All right, thank you, and we'll talk again later this year
and next. But congratulations brad Winstrup, doctor, colonel, congressman, father
and a husband coming back home in about a year. Brad Winstrop, once
again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you,
Congressman, Thank you always the pleasure, Thank you, God bless you.
Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW. Hello, quiet, and
I'm broadcasting guy on a ridiculously tough day to be a Bengals fan, broadcasting
by himself. How about that that's his that's his postgame podcast. That's a
tough day to be a Bengal fan, sure was. How about the look
in Joe Burrow's eyes on the bench, He's got that far distant. How
about lou An Arumo's look when he was going, Uh, you got to
cover that guy. You gotta cover that guy, you gotta Why aren't we
covering people five and forty five of total defense, up and down, up
and down the field, track shoes on? No CJ. Stroud, whoever?
They got their quarterback in Houston, They got him. Yeah, how
about was that Warren Moon was Yes, that was him, Warren Campbell.
Was he out there running? I think so? Yeah. I thought I
saw bum Phillips standing on the sidelines. That guy, guy in a cowboy
hat. That guy went to Reading high school, didn't he? I think
so. That the home of Tony Pikes. You mean Tony Pick? Did
you see him play his last game? We call him Tony Pick? Will
he the stood reporters of Frond Service, every local tame star? He didn
get air conditioning dealers thamestar quality you could feel in southwest Ohio called better choice
heating and cool to get five to one to three, six eight, six,
eight thirty three eighty eight spot Say Thursday night's a big game? Would
you agree slightly? Yeah, but you gotta be up fourteen points on the
Ravens in the fourth quarter. If that happens, you're gonna win the game.
Well that's true because Cleveland was down fourteen and Deshaun Watson, who of
course they wanted to run out of town a few weeks ago, let him
back yesterday and Cleveland wins at the gun. One of five games? Will
he five count him? Including the Bengals that went with the most game winning
scores with no time left in the in regulation in a single week in NFL
history. It's pretty good. Obviously, this one hurts, but no,
we'll come back stronger. Is Joe Burrow being bengalized? No, the windows
my whole career, and and everybody that we have in that locker room,
all the coaches we have. No things are going to change year to year,
but our windows always open. Well, don't worry because in twenty twenty
one they were five and four at this point in the season. What did
they do? Super Bowl? Right? Twenty twenty two, they were five
and four at this point in the season, a return to the AFC Championship
Game. So all is not lost in bengaled them. Well, you're sure
about that, right. Troy Hendrickson uh in the top ten in the National
Football League with eight and a half sacks, suffered that Hype suffered a hyper
extended knee when Texans wide receiver Noah Brown fell into him during the game.
He's going to have an MRI, might be out a short time. We'll
wait and see. But then t Higgins, how about that hamstring? And
then Sam Hubbard, what about the ankle playing or not. I don't know.
We'll wait and see. Well, why don't you find out? Oh,
we got to find out from you know, probably a day or so.
We got to find out fast because Thursday's approach at More tonight on Bengals
line six oh five, Lance and lap right here on seven hundred WLW.
Well what about coming in? We had some state champions? Have you talked
to the boys and girls that have won state titles to get him in here?
Contacted themal Willie. It looks like on Wednesday afternoon, the coach and
ladies from Cincinnati Country Day girl soccer state titleist. We'll be here last year,
yes, second year in a row. See the magic continues. Good
Summit Country Day one and girls soccer state champions Kings and mccaully. What about
the Knights? Mcknick lost in volleyball and then Moler lost to Cleveland sati Ignacius
and boys soccer twenty four and one. Apparently I guess with the was the
final tally for the Crusaders p Ks and Mauler lost on the last kick.
Have an undefeated, untied, one goal scored season and Muller must learn to
deal with the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. Speaking of the
Bengals and Texans. Yesterday, one of the largest payouts on a parlay bet
ever reported I saw by a US sports book came down to the final seconds
with C. J. Stroud, a vetter in Florida, won five and
a half million dollars and a half million dollars four leg NFL parlay. Explain
it and the newly reopened hard Rock sports book in Florida explain it now,
the four legs of the same game parlay. Were Texans beat the Bengalsnumber one,
you got to win that? Did he win that? Yes? Number
two Texans. Bengals go over forty four and a half points. I think
thirty to twenty seven. That's fifty seven points. That's number two Texans running
back Devin Singletary scored a touchdown. He did score a touchdown. We that's
number three Singletary to go over fifty one and a half rushing yards. That
did happen. You have to get all these five and a half million bucks,
what up a half a mil I'll take it in I'll take it in
twenties. And if you win three of the four e got to win them
all. Now college football, Jimbo Fisher, of course fired over the weekend
yesterday by Texas A and M. The Aggies are six and four and four
and three in the SEC. They beat Mississippi State fifty one to ten Saturday.
Mississippi State let their coach go today. Now, I don't cheat,
I don't lie, thank you. So I learned that when I was a
kid, if you did the old man slapped us side of the head,
maybe somebody should have slapped him. Well, he's gonna slap somebody. Because
the move by Jimbo Fisher being fired cost Texas A and M a record seventy
six million dollar payout. I'd want to be fired. Yeah, he is
due nineteen million dollars within sixty days of the firing. Merry Christmas to him.
Then then they will pay him seven point two million dollars annually through twenty
thirty one stay in Texas. His first coaching job was at Sanford at twenty
thousand dollars. Now Fisher will get paid per day over the next eight years
not to coach the Aggies twenty six thousand, three hundred dollars a day on
condition you don't coach Bingo. Whoever negotiated that for jim Bo Fisher should get
a little bit of the ass. I wish it was his agent. And
so they play a game, right Yange's feat the Bulldogs of Jeff Frantlely.
They run, they run Jimbo Fisher out of town, the Mississippi State.
They let their coach go, and apparently Jeff Brantley's taking over. But you
didn't hear that from us. So both coaches'll take into how God did his
deal. You may find out about it about a guy that a lot of
things you don't want to know. We built him up to be the Tzar
of football. Go dig into his past or anybody's ever coached with him.
You can find out anything you want to find out what he does and how
he does it. Misdspicable is he talking about there? I have no idea
college basketball tonight, Xavier I third rate a Perdue in West Lafayette and eight
o five right here on seven hundred WLW. Now, Xavier MO gave me
seventeen and a half points for a U to f hot foot Sunday. How
about that, Jumanzi, what for do you mean? Xavier and Perdue Xavier
get seventeen and a half. I took the bat? Why not? Why
not? Purdue is a much of tall white guys for crew cuts and Harry
Lakes Xavier men's soccer team, the Big East Champions. You're alma mater.
Well host Kentucky the Big Blue coming to town in the first round of the
NCAA Men's soccer tournament this Thursday, Right this Thursday, November sixteenth, at
Corkoran Field. The Xavier one day yesterday beating Georgetown. I think that's where
Pennies Senior Citizen female rugby team's gonna play. That's correct, because those women
are rough come. How come that they didn't name that after you? Corkoran
Field didn't pay it? Not? Can your mother play a little rugby?
No? Let's what Bobby Henderson told me. Uh huh that most of the
women and his family over sixty five would love to play on the team.
Did you see Would you go and watch that? Well? Not no,
but I bet you will put it on the broadcast. We'll put it on
the project or Kiss one O seven with John John doing the pregame show.
Let's say if Joe and Byron do the game, Senior Citizen Female Rugby.
They doing nothing else. FC Cincinnati center back Matt Mioska has been named the
twenty twenty three MLS Defender of the Year. Thirty six games he was on
the field. FCC this year allowed just thirty five goals in trouble. Uh
yeah, either one of the one that referees referees room, having still have
not heard what the punishment is there? What do you think about that?
Uh? Well, I think he go in the referees room. You might
be. I think he's going to miss the upcoming Eastern Conference semi finals or
at least a couple of Thanksgiving November the twenty fifth, that's correct. Now
what about Michigan? No, harball, that was a mess. What do
you think about that? Well, he gets his day in court coming up?
What Thursday? Right? I want to say Friday or Thursday or Friday?
So thank you, lap So we'll see what. Well, you're the
lawyer in the group. What do you think is going to happen? I
hang him high? Does he get a t R O or a TKO?
Hang him a high? Yes? What's that mean? Hang him a high?
No? You know what I say? No? Four fifth to two,
Ohio state victories the last two years. No, because he cheated,
it's not gonna happen. No, they're gonna They're gonna lay that down.
And then I was watching over the weekend Urban Meyer up at Penn State where
he was getting leveled by the fans. Yeah, gave his spiel. And
then Charles Woodson, one of the housemen for Michigan, was on the show
too. In the Fox pregame, he said a couple of bad words over
the weekend. Well, the on National TV he said, the whole situation
is blank blank blank. And it was like, well, uh no,
dump, no delay, what do you do? Guess they let it go
and what do you do? I'm watching Channel five about two three weeks ago.
Yeah, they were doing Live from the Banks and some woman behind them
on the air drop the F bomb. What do you do? I don't
know, But you're responsible for everything going on over their segment. That's what
I'm telling you. We write this down responsible. How you responsible? Yes,
ctl l E okay, everything over the th air A. iHeartMedia training.
We just took some got to take some more, the code of conduct,
gotta take some more. All I know is xavior Tonight's got a big
game at Purdue. Correct, and I got xavior plus seventeen and a half.
And then of course yesterday Willie and Victor Lockhan with the double double as
the Bearcats go to three and oh they knock off Eastern Washington. So a
good start for Wes Miller's group. Allegedly, I'm having on Wes Miller tomorrow
or Wednesday to talk about David Yost, the Attorney General. That's true.
So they deny that the NC double A is denied, and then the NC
double A is letting these other guys play three or four other guys, They
say, well, we'll clear them. What's wrong with you? What about
Jim Harball? What's gonna happen in the court. I don't know. That's
it's a whole Thing's a mess. It's what happens if he doesn't get the
t ro O. So then he has to sit and what doesn't he can
he take it to the Michigan Supreme Quarters up next hearing. It would be
about thirty to sixty days from now. What Wolf either wins, that would
be ro o or not. Uh? Oh, of course it's a house.
It's a house judge in Michigan, it's unless the guy like you're judge
with rowdy Roddy Piper says, I was a fan of Louisville and he rips
off the jacket and Michigan State judge correct or Central maybe Central Michigan, Western
Michigan State Bingo, it's a democratic judge. I think that democratic female judge
is under a lot of pressure to grant the T, the R and the
O. What do you think you're the lawyer, what do you think you
think he's got? She grants it. So then so then he goes to
coach. Then you can coach, and then you cant. Then the other
side can appeal it and have a hearing in thirty to sixty days by then,
and then he doesn't coach, say like if he gets the tro he
coaches, okay, but but then like Ohio State will say, hold up
on that car. Wise, gentlemen, get in front of just as Joe
Bingo, bring the case here, bring the case here, change a venue,
rock and roll with Hugh to Pole and then see what happens. Get
him in front of you. So these other schools could block that right?
Correct? Correct? Wow about that? Sports fans, Frank cel says,
cheater, cheater, hair on fire. I'm telling you right now, and
you give me and you can't tell me that. I mean stand, I'm
microwave of package, microwave some package. Okay, out of time, We're
out of time. We got to get back to the commercial. We got
to get over the overtime segment. Get me please out of the Studge Report.
Welly, who they think going to beat them Bengals on Thursday? Hopefully
not Lamar. We leave you with the immortal words of the stud report.
We got nothing back to the commercials yep. On news radio seven hundred WLW.
It's the road home sexist, homophobic nation that is almost irredeemable. And
my next guest points out there are many words that exist today in reality,
especially in colleges and universities and elsewhere, like diversity and equity and inclusion and
white privilege and anti racism and critical waste theory and queer theory. I kind
of feel bad saying the word queer, but I guess it's okay. Now
there were terms that rarely discussed of five ten years ago, didn't exist,
but today they're proliferating because I think they pay a whole bunch of money to
those who advocate. One of the great new books out is The Diversity con
Secrets and Lies Behind the Shady DEI Industry, put together by David Johnson and
David Johnson. Welcome, I think for the first time, to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And David. First of all, let's go back a little
bit in time to your history. I've read some of your background and you
don't necessarily fit the ideal of what many would say is acceptable in our society,
which I find very acceptable. Tell us a little bit a little bit
about your journey before we get into the Diversity con sure so, and thank
you for having me. By the way, I'm not a conservative, so
I'm like a traditional liberals, I guess you could say the time my story
started with I worked for Hasbro's an engineer, and one day they brought me
into a CRT training seminar and the messages that we were told was that children
as young as five would start to exhibit oh sorry, they started to exhibit
overt racial biases in the same level as their parents at the age of five
five years old. Yep. Children as the youngest five, particularly white children,
and what they wanted the engineers to do. My team was to use
anti racist messaging to influence the product and packaging to bring the racial consciousness to
young children. And this is Hasbro, which is one of the great toy
makers in America. And so you also point out in the part of this
that that the left claims that a six month old it can be a racist
baby, and that by the time of five, Hasbro has a mission of
changing the toys that little kids play with to make them anti racist and so.
And also you say in your bio, which I find very interesting,
that that you're a young black, center left gay man who never felt this
discriminated against in America, but now you're an engineer working for Hasbro, and
all of a sudden you're taught to look for racism everywhere. Yeah, that's
true. So I grew up in upstate New York, and like, there's
racism in the country at micro levels that I'm sure many people have experienced.
But the claim that we're being taught to accept now is that America as a
whole is a racist country and that all of our institutions are set up to
disadvantage black people, minorities, gays, and every other minority. Group that
you can label and this is just not true. Especially being a child of
the nineties, I grew up with the teachings of Martin Luther King that we're
supposed to judge people based on their merits and their character, not the color
of their skin. But diversity, equity, and inclusion are the complete antithesis
of this idea. And so where how does this tell me? As an
engineer for Hasbro? How did you manifest what the company wanted to be done
so that a three year old girl doesn't develop racist ideas from a doll or
some toy. How do you change the product or what do you reflect in
the product? So they didn't give us any specifics in that meeting at the
time, but the overall message that they were giving us was to just use
the ideals of anti racism and critical race theory and keep it in mind when
designing packaging, advertising and marketing. How do you do that? How do
you how do you keep anti racism in mind when you talk about toy packaging?
How does that work? You could do it a number of ways.
What we see typically is that you might have a children's package with the Black
Lives Matter fist and maybe an assortment of racially diverse children that are espousing these
teachings of these organizations or these ideologies that people need to see color. That
was a model used by a cartoon network's Children Show to teach children that they
should judge people based on race and consider that when they're treating people. And
so it's one thing to have a black barbie, which I don't that's fine,
But to have subliminal, indirect liberal messages inside a toy product. Is
that kind of where you draw the line. Yes, So, like you
said, I don't think most people would care if there's a black barbie,
for example, But the problem would come in to say when you tell children
that the black children need to play with the black barbie and the white children
need to only play with the white barbie, and that these the differences in
race need to be accounted for when they're interacting with each other. This is
where I draw the line, and this is why I found it so unacceptable,
and I thought that I needed to bring it to the public's attention.
It's happened as we speak. As far as other indications of this, your
book addresses the misconception that efforts are Marxist and origins while using Marxist ideology.
These large left wing businesses that fund DEI groups are more interested in crushing local
businesses creating a monopoly such as Google and Amazon and Facebook, so they use
race and acceptable DEI practices in liberal communities. But the object is to make
certain of small businesses that they compete against cannot succeed. That is one facet
of it. Because these ideologies are pushed by such major market players like Google,
who's owned by alphabet who's even larger company. You have the NFL pushing
this. You have places like Target. Even Walmart had a d program for
their employees. So it's a very widespread issue. And while one of the
side effects of their activism is going to be the destruction of businesses that don't
comply, the end goal is to kind of engineer a society what they would
call an inclusive society, where the even idea to challenge these ideas is just
unacceptable. It's not anything that's allowed to be done lest you face the consequences
of losing your job or social ostracization. So basically there's one it's almost like
the cultural revolution of communists China back in the sixties and seventies in which you
have to believe or adhere to a certain set of principles and if you fail
to do so, you will be canceled. It is the exact same We
are experiencing a cultural revolution in America, and you can see the parallels in
that because a lot of these activists, while they're teaching DII or critical race,
they or they will also throw in a criticism of generally just what they
consider capitalism, even though the nature of capitalism, free market exchange, is
what allows America to be prosperous. But they have been taught to see capitalism
as an inherent evil because it doesn't bring about equal outcomes for all the people
involved, nor should it, because we don't want equal outcome. We want
people to earn what We want people to have what they earned through their merit.
No one decided this. There was no law that told Hasbro or Amazon
or Walmart or Target what they had to do what they didn't have to do.
So it seems like no one is directing all this DEI stuff all over
the country, but everyone's like marching in the same direction that are in charge
of these large multinationals. Can you tell us why in your opinion, it's
happening that way because bud Light came out a little bit strong with Dylan mulvaney,
etc. Bud Lights now used to be the top brand. Now it's
not in the top ten. Target's taking a serious hit when you have tuck
pouches for three year old boys or girls that identify some other gender. Is
there a other marching orders given? How come different companies, different businesses in
different ways of life proceed with DEI, But like nobody specifically is in charge,
they just know to do it. The companies are facing pressures from what
I would generally consider two major sources. The first source is top down from
such large institutions like Blackrock and other large investment firms that will go to these
companies and say, hey, we have a DEI program for you, and
if you want to continue receiving our investment, if you want to receive certain
credations, then you will have to implement this in your company. So it
creates a corporate pressure from that's top down. And then on the other side
of it, there's an emergent social pressure with the advent of social media,
where relatively small groups of people can brigade a company and give their ideology a
much bigger sense of popularity among the populace that actually has. So companies will
interact with social media and think that the general public supports anti racism as an
example, when they don't, but it has an outsized view because of social
media. David Johnson, author of the Diversity con And so for a large
multinational institution like Target or Walmart, there are pitches given in Bentonville, Arkansas
every year for thousands of companies line up in order to pitch Walmart on buying
their product and putting it on the shelf. You mean to say that part
of accepting the product from a small provider to Walmart. Walmart will say to
that small company, we like to do business with you, but here's some
DEI programs which I consider to be dee, not DEI because we're going to
die from this. But here are the programs we would like you to implement.
Wink wink, nod, nod, you better do it. Is that
how it works. That's a pretty good way to describe it. It will
usually come in the form of they'll have a certificate, for example, and
it's this company's certified diversity. It's the acceptable levels that the top down companies
would like to see. And the smaller companies can either choose to abide by
it and then adopt these diversity programs, or they can reject it. But
then it comes across that they have less certifications, they have less I guess
it doesn't look as good when they're compared to their competitors. And as far
as getting future business, much like during the Chinese Cultural Revolution, you get
so many red ribbons when you complete certain levels of indoctrination. The more levels
or the more emblems or symbols you accumulate, the more likely the fellow travelers
will do business with you because of what you put out on your company website.
For example, it is almost required to do business with these large companies
Amazon, Microsoft, Walmart, Target. You have to toe the company line
to make the money. And if you don't, guess what, you're not
going to get the business. Now do you see this, David Johnson,
Here we are at the end of twenty twenty three. Is this accelerating,
is this declining or is this maintaining the status quo as far as companies having
to tow the DEI line to get business, is this increasing staying the same
or lessening. It's tough to say. I would say that the status quo
of companies just blindly accepting it has been disrupted because we've seen such major backlash
against companies like anneiser Busch and Target. So I believe that if the public
continues to speak out and make their voices known that these are not ideals that
we will support with our dollars, then we will see a continued decline of
these ideas being accepted in pitutions. However, on the other side of that
is because they're seeing pushback, the push to have these companies coerced into accepting
this has become more forceful. These individuals who teach these classes, do they
really believe that a six month old or a four year old little girl is
racist? Do they really believe that? Some of them do. I think
very very much that it's like a cult mentality. There are people who know
that it's not true, but they're pushing it for ideological gains. And there
are people that are true believers that don't think through these ideas completely, so
they're not aware of the contradictions or the absurdities within it. You know,
David Johnson, you made some great comments, one of which is, you
see what's happened to bud Light, you see what's happening to Target. You
see what's happening to Disney, And that is I will not go to Disney
drink beer. I don't drink any alcohol, but I would clearly not order
a bud Light. And more than once I've passed a Target to go to
a Walmart. However, I'm not sure Walmart is significantly different than Target,
but nonetheless, Target got in the got in the Target. Shall we say
of those of us who want a more traditional viewpoint, but this is uh.
I'll ask you the last question, David Johnson, is this Is this
so system systematic? Is this so ingrained in corporate structures, like through black
Rock that owns thousands and thousands of businesses? Is this so ingrained that it's
going to be damn near impossible to reverse. It's very ingrained for virtually every
major institution, But it's not impossible. And I think we've proven that by
the fact that Anheuser Busch went from being the number one beer to no longer
being in the top ten. And I think that it's it's good that people
stop going to Target. And go to other places. Even it's Walmart that
also had DEI policies, but they're less vocal about it. So it's an
incremental shift back towards normalcy, back towards American values. So if we continue
to do that, then I think more and more the needle will be pushed
back towards the center, and these companies will be forced to reject these ideologies
or they will be hurt in their bottom line. David Johnson, thanks for
coming on to Bill Cunningham Show. There's going to be about a million Americans
who hear this interview at some point. I love the fact that Dennis Praeger
has the forward to your book, and the fact you know of what you
speak. You describe yourself as a gay, black American center left who's never
been felt discrimination. I'm sure you have felt it. I'm sure I've had
it. Everyone feels discrimination or censusent in one way or another because of the
way of one's appearance, one's weight, one's age, the way one talks,
the way. Absolutely those things are everywhere, but onto one invidious discrimination
where you're held back because of your gay status or your color. That that
is not the American way. But the book is fabulous. It's called The
Diversity con the secrets and lies between the shady dei industry. And it happens
because lots of money is involved. Billions of dollars are involved. It's seeking
to change the American way of life and we can't have it in that direction.
Once again, David Johnson, author, thank you very much for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show. And David, good luck to you and all
your ventures. Thank you so much, and thank you again for having me.
God bless America. Let's continue with more. And it is sad because
follow the money like fellow travelers have the same philosophies and ideas. And I
love the analogy to walmartin Bentonsville. Some company, little company shows up to
get shelf space. But to get the shelf space wink wink, non nod,
you have to have the good housekeeping seal of approval and then you'll get
business. Wow. Oh, let's continue Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WULW with
inflation compensation. You could knock inflation outs with a thousand dollars. It's your
chance to win a thousand. Burrow waits for the snap from Ted Carris Joe
has the ball drops back from the twenty one turn, bobbled and dropped in
the end zone. Tyler Boyd a great throw and Boyd dropped what could have
been the goal. I had touched down what should have been the go ahead
touchdown, his second drop of the game. Hello, buyet, I'm broadcastings
jamorro and or t Higgins were not to drop that ball? Is that correct?
I would say so? Or Trent Irwin or Hudson? Would you?
I would have caught that ball, Well, Rock would have caught it.
About Michael Mayer going over the top of that dude yesterday the against the Jets,
his first touchdown in the National Football League, pretty good stuff prior to
Covecat. You're avoiding the obvious absence. You may recall on Friday a wager
was made and I took Anderson and the Rock had Harrison high school football.
Well, maybe he's in line at Greaters getting you a night Sunday. He
lost to Hot Fudd Sunday, and where's he at that The Raptors kicked up
the crap on the Wildcats and I won, And the Rock is noticeable by
his absence. He won't confront I told him to bring two in, one
for me and one for you. Oh, maybe he's in line. Maybe
they're busy up there. Oh where is the rock? Also a man I
bet earlier with Moe. I have Xavier plus seventeen and a half against Purdue.
What was that for another Sunday? Yes, a bunch of engineers that
have hairy legs and white dudes with the crew cuts they got they can play?
Will he look out now? Are you sure? Yes? I'm taking
mister Edney can play. I'm taking Sean Miller. Will heave the stude reporters
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at eight five nine four seven two sixty fifty one spot. Or do you
normally say? Or now that's on? That's for Brett Durbin. Uh,
let's see. Uh the Bengals I gotta go with. Let's see. Uh
they got it? Of course they lost yesterday to those Texans. Get more
tonight on Bengals line six five right here on seven hundred WLWS Zach Taylor is
supposed to speak here in a little bit. Bengals defensive star Trey Hendrickson suffering
a hyper extended knee yesterday when one of the Houston players you know, fell
into him. He made missed some time. Because the Bengals are on that
short week at Thursday night against Baltimore, a tough day to be a Bengal
fankel Thank you. Kelsey Conway says that Hendrickson and Hubbard likely are not playing.
You're gonna lose your both edge rushers and also t Higgins likely out again.
Well, then it's time for Miles Murphy to step up and let's go.
What about Joseph him too? Get him on, Osio Sai. Can
you see college basketball? You said? You said? Willie West Lafayette the
site tonight wes Xavier up against those purdued boiler Makers at eight o five right
here on seven hundred wlw FC. Cincinnati center back Matt Miosga is the twenty
twenty three Major League Soccer Defender of the Year. Well gratulations to him and
another award for us. Yet I have not seen anything No Xavier men's soccer
team, the Big East champs, will take on the Big Blue of Kentucky
first round of the NCAA tournament Thursday night, right there at Corkoran Field,
the home of the what the women's rugby team. Well, my wife Benny's
putting together a senior citizen female rugby league, right and thus far she's having
trouble getting players. She has a total of four and we got to have
at least two teams. We need twenty two seniors who are women that want
to play rugby flat out. And I want to know where are the women
in the Tri State when I need him. Michigan coach Jim Harball says he
plans to attend a court hearing Friday. What a judge will hear arguments on
whether to grant a restraining order that will nullify the Big Tens three game suspension
of the coach. He said he's going to talk Friday, looking forward to
the opportunity of due process, not looking for any special treatment, not looking
for a popularity contest, just looking for the merit of what the case is.
That sounds like a bunch of crap to me right there. Amen.
Well, the largest payouts on a parlay bet ever reported it by a US
sports book, came down to the final second yesterday at pay Corpse Stadium,
a better in Florida won five and a half million dollars and a half million
dollar four leg NFL parlay at the newly reopened Hard Rock Sports Book. What
happened four legs in the same game parlay were Texans beat the Bengals. Texans
and Bengals to go over forty four and a half points, bought a boon,
bought a ban, and Texans running back at Devin Singletary score a touchdown
Ding and Singletary could go over fifty one and a half rushing yards sing Ding
Ding. Right, there goes the thing. So he put up five hundred
thousand in real cabbage five and a half million bucks. It's back ten to
one because it's a parlay. Got hit all four. Now getting back to
Jim Harbaugh. Yeah, talk to Tom Weedman, talked to almost George Hurst,
the faithful. They want Jim Harbaugh to get up there and lay it
out, lay it out. I guess he certainly will. I'm sure there'll
be a denial of not knowing who this dude was and all this other stuff.
I don't know, I don't they know, I don't know, Well,
who paid for all of his expenses to cheat. It was going to
game after game after game. That's a good question. And all the seats
were positions so we could see the signals. Correct. Now, how do
you do that? I don't know in this day and age and right now,
the other ads in the Big Ten they want to Scalp Bingo of Michigan
Wolverine who threatened to leave the Big Ten. Let them one of the founding
members of the Big Ten could go to the SEC and everybody else. How
would Michigan do playing Alabama and Georgia loss? Well, you know what though,
Willie he like Jim Harbaugh said in his press conference today, they have
nine and ninety nine wins in Michigan football, nine since time began. Wouldn't
it be appropriate they play number Oh that would have been unbelievable Maryland. That's
not going to ha No, that that they could put They could put the
girls team out there win. Well? Will will this be the most covered
event in Michigan court history? Oh, there'll be cameras all over the place.
I mean, and it's open, right, I mean, you can
yeah walk in. Jimbo Fisher was was fired over the weekend. Will he
have Texas A and M head football coach. Despite the Aggies six and four
and four and three in the SEC and they throttled Mississippi State Saturday fifty one
to tenos. But Jimbo is out anybody. No rules were broken, nothing
was done wrong. It was all in the and the way we do things,
the ethics in which we do things, and these families. It's despicable
that a repparable head coach could come out and say this, Well, he
doesn't get his way or things don't go his way, a narcissist and he
doesn't allow those things to happen. It's ridiculous. But when he's not on
top and the parody in college football he's been talking about. The move is
going to cost the school more than seventy six million dollars to buy out his
deal and sixty days coach Fisher is owed at nineteen million dollars. They'll pay
him seven point two million annually through twenty twenty thirty one, almost like Barry
Benia. So yes, Bobby Bania. They've Fisher will get paid per day
twenty six three hundred dollars over the next eight years, not to coach how
much a day twenty six thousand, three hundred dollars a day not to coach.
Does that include the leap year or not? Did you add an extra?
I don't know. Maybe maybe so, I don't know. And he's
in Texas and has no state income tax right, his first first coaching job
at Sanford, he made twenty thousand dollars. Is that Fred? No,
that's Jimbo Fisher. That's Fred Samford. No, no, No, Sanford
or stan Stamford Sanford? Was it Stanford or Stanford Sanford? Fred Sanford?
Yeah? Yeah? How much did he I'm gonna not I'm gonna give you
five across the lip right now? Can you say that anymore? In TV?
To a woman what was that woman's name? And esther? Wow,
she had a mouth on her, didn't she? Yes, she did.
That was a good show. It was funny. You can't do it fun
but that was funny. Now it was funny. Funny, man, but
now you can't do that well? And who? And esther? Was that?
And astor? Yes, Sanford Son, Great, that's some of the
funniest you take him. And boy, the way Glenn Miller played songs that
made the hit for Archie Bunker Guys was like us. We hadn't made those
were the days. Can't do that today either, Nope, can't do Flip
Wilson stuff today. Don't do any of it. Nope, it's not politically
correct. That is that is correct. Told us culturally what can be done
and what camp be done with five across the lip. But the Southern he
coached with Sanford and Son. Is that what you're saying? No, Sanford
College? Is it Stanford or Sanford? Samford sam f O R D in
Florida? I believe so, Yeah, it might have been Stanford. No,
it wasn't the Stanford Stamford, right, So you sure it was Sanford?
Not stand because if it was Stanford, he'd still be there. Why
would he still be there? I don't know he left he won a national
title to Florida State. Didn't know. Jimbo Fisher is probably headed for the
broadcast booth. I would think, well, making that kind of money,
you can go to fifth third Bank. The only bank you'll ever need is
go to fifth third Bank and see Tracy Burge. He takes here of money
there. Believe me. One hundred and sixty six thousand or one hundred and
sixty six point seven percent well, I mean, every day he gets a
proud sponsor of NASCAR races and ray Hole Letterman, Atlantic and Racing. I
bet he never moves to Chicago Illinois starts paying those taxes. I don't think
so He's gonna stay in tel The's no state taxes at income tax. Wow.
Saved some tendance. It saved him seven to eight million dollars in his
pocket as opposed to the black hole of government spending Jimbo. Jimbo had some
good lawyers and a good agent. I'm sure had them all. I mean,
for that kind of money, he might have gone to LSU before Brian
Kelly. So they redid his contract with the Aggies right, and all of
a sudden, everything's guaranteed because they were certain he would be successful. Once
again, the Rock has not showed up having lost, and I'm told that
the Notre Dame women's college basketball team lost by twenty points. The football team
didn't play the women. Notre Dame women lost to South Carolina the other day.
So really, Saint X Harrison, Notre Dame all collapsing, correct,
Segon Man, get me out of the Stude report, Willia and utter of
a cold day here at the tri State and even colder since the Bengals lost,
and some country the women's soccer team is coming in one on Wednesday.
We need them, and congrats to Cincinnati Country Day and also Kings and Mercy
McCauley for state champions coming in. They're coming in good. We leave you
with the immortal words of the Stood Report as the final sixteen seconds will run
off the clock. The weights is over and the UC Bearcats have their first
ever Big twelve win in football. Our road wind is Houston. The final
score of twenty four to fourteens. So Dan Horden was fifty to fifty with
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