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I really appreciate you joining us. Before we bring on tonight's guest,
I just want to thank you once again so much for all the supports you
offered Joe. She's doing so well. Now, she's in her seam.
She's in this same house that she has been in, but she's getting all
the pieces in place so that she can make that move into the new house,
the safer house. And last time I checked, the total number of
donations were up to like nine thousand dollars. I just don't know what to
say. I can't thank you enough for all the support you've given her.
Like I said last week on the show, even those of you who didn't
donate, there are a lot of you who did support her with your words
and everything, and I just can't thank you enough either. I really do
appreciate it. I really do well. Without any further ado, let's bring
on tonight's guest. Tonight's guest is Carissa. Carissa, thanks so much for
joining us. Thank you for having me. Oh, you're welcome. We
really appreciate your time. Carissa, Please give us a brief bio in yourself.
I am thirty three years old, work at an autoparts store. I'm
very artistic, I'm very open and very creative, grew up in a really
small town, and and yeah, don't what else to say other than that,
you know, it's funny. After doing who knows a many shows,
it seems like the bio is always the hardest part for a guess to nail,
because talking about other things is pretty easy in most cases, but talking
about yourself is just about as hard as it gets. So I know it's
not easy. It's not Carissa. When you were fifteen, that's when you
had this encounter that we're going to talk about tonight. You think having it
at such young age shape the person you grew up to be today. Well,
living in a small town, I experienced a lot of interesting things that
I think not most people would have experienced at that age, and this story
is just like a prime example of that. Yeah, i'd say it is.
You mentioned that it was a small town. But it was actually a
small town called gold River on Vancouver Island. What can you tell us about
the place. It's smaller than I think most people realize. It is an
hour away from anything else. It's tons of forest, lots of deep,
thick forest, like the tiniest little town you've ever seen that. You didn't
have cell phone service when I lived there. They only got it like a
year or two ago. Very remote. Like most people that grew up on
Vancouver Island and think they know the island, I say, hey, I'm
from gold River, and most of the time they're like, where's that.
So it's really not a well known place, but absolutely beautiful place to grow
up in. I had the best times, the best experiences. I wouldn't
have wanted to be raised anywhere else. So it was a wonderful place to
live. I'll bet it is. And it was. Yeah, for the
longest time, I've just wanted I would have given anything to live on Vancouver
Island because it seems like such a great place. I mean, you talk
about beauty, the place is beautiful. But I'm sure a lot of people
listening to the show tonight don't know a thing about Vancouver Island. What can
you tell us about it? It's the most beautiful place in the world.
If you love hiking, if you love lakes, it's really like God at
all. You can go surfing, you can go on the lakes, on
the rivers, camping. There's smaller cities there. If you've never been to
Vancouver Island, you should definitely try to make a trip out there, because
everybody in BC and Canada want to live on Vancouver Island. It is the
best part of Canada by far. It is legendary. Everybody loves it.
I'm really proud and happy to be from a place that's so beautiful and wonderful.
Well, I can understand why you would be. And you know too,
Carrista. When people hear island she lived on Vancouver Island, they think,
okay, well it's a small place. A lot of people they don't
get the idea behind how big Vancouver Island actually is. Please tell us about
that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Vancouver Island is bigger than Japan. Like
it is, like I say, an island, but it's a massive island,
like it would probably take a day and a half to drive from the
bottom to the top. It is awfully big. It is, and for
people listening, there's some kind of an artifact that I hear. Every once
in a while, I hear a click. I'm not sure what's going on
with stream Yard, but everything's clean on my end. Whatever is clicking or
popping must be through stream Yard, So I apologize for that. It's not
going to be in the podcast version of the show. The podcast versions of
these live streams are always cleaned up and don't have these problems. But yeah,
for the YouTube side, unfortunately, I can't take that away, So
again I apologize. But having said that, Carissa, what was the most
frightening animal experience you had on Vancouver Island that didn't involve that dogged me in
cougars for sure. I was gonna mention a story in my little or like
a little side story about a cougar interaction that I dumbly did. But cougar's
like in Gold River is actually the highest density of cougars in the whole world.
I believe, like they're everywhere, They're always lurking around. I was
just there a couple of weeks ago and there and everyone's dash cams are not
dash cams but like front door cams, there's always cougars roaming around, like
they're everywhere. They've attacked people, they eat people's animals all the time.
So I've seen lots of black bearris but as long as you're bear aware,
they're not a threat. They're usually just eating berries. I've come across so
many black bears, and I'm not usually that afraid of them, but cougars
I am definitely afraid of because they will attack you. So that's definitely the
biggest threat there. Well, yeah, that would definitely complicate going for walks
in the woods. If you had a population of cougars that thick, that
dinse, that would definitely do it. From what I understand, Carissa,
you forgot about your encounter for a period of time. How long did you
go without thinking about it? Like it was just like three years ago that
it kind of popped up into my memory thanks to reading a story on Reddit
that was similar to mine. So for probably like I don't know, like
twelve years or something, I guess, maybe longer than that, I guess
I didn't remember or like just kind of in the past. So I was
glad that I'd come across this story on Reddit because it brought me here now,
and it's like opened up this curiosity and I never really knew what it
was that I saw, Like I actually didn't know what dog Man was until
him very recently, because I always just referred to it as this beast,
because I could not make sense of whatever I had seen because it was nothing
that I had known of prior to this. Did being able to finally put
a name on what you saw running out of the woods towards you make it
easier to deal with or did it not make a difference? Yeah, Well,
it's got me like a lot more curious of like what it was,
and the fact that other people in the area have seen it too, So
yeah, I don't think. I think I would be terrified if it happened
again, for sure, But now it's just like open up this big curiosity
for me. You said it opened up a form of curiosity for you,
But I'm wondering, does that mean that you think maybe sometime down the road
you might actually go out looking for these guys or no, thank you ask
me that. Like the some people that I pulled a story to, They're
like, let's go look for it, and I'm like, no, because
like, even if I did go look for it, what if I see
a cougar, Like I'm actually it's more likely than I'm going to see a
cougar, and that's kind of just as scary. So yeah, I don't
know, I don't think I would. Well, that's good. I always
tell people be careful what you wish for, because yeah, sometimes if you
go out there trying to research them, they'll follow you home and try to
research you. So please keep that in mind. Yes, for sure,
not a good thing. All right, Carissa, please tell us about your
encounter. Now give us a real last detail that comes to mind. Okay,
first of all, thank you everybody for listening to my story. So,
like I just said, I grew up in Vancouver Island. It's in
the province of British Columbia on the west coast. Very very small, remote
town. It's an hour away from any other civilization. It takes like ten
minutes to walk across the town. Like where my mom lives, there's like
it's on the edge of town, so there's no behind her house. It's
like forest and beyond like there's nothing, no houses, no cities, no
towns beyond that. Yeah, so living in Gold River, you'd obviously come
across lots of bears and cougars. One time, I was very drunk and
young, and I saw a cougar run past me, but I actually thought
it was a Golden retriever and I went running after it and I said,
cut your puppy, and my friends were like, Carissa, that's a cougar.
And then when I my drunk vision focused on it, I'm like,
oh, my gosh, that is a cougar. So I've seen lots of
cougars up close. Actually, when we moved into my house in Gold River,
there was a cougar den in our backyard and there was a dead cougar
in it, like something had killed it, which I never really thought of
recently what kind of predator would be killing a cougar. So that was kind
of crazy experience. So I've seen lots of bears. I've seen lots of
cougars. The wolves are a little bit more shy, so they don't really
come into town as much. And there's lots of elks. I've seen lots
of elk, and there's deer. There's bobcats, but they don't come around
very often either. So I've seen a lot of animals, been around them
a lot. But whatever I saw this night was definitely nothing that I had
ever seen or knew prior to this or existed. So I was about fifteen
or sixteen. I was walking home alone, which was an often occurrence there.
My mom trusted me to walk across town. I was at my friend's
house. Must have been a Friday or Saturday night. I had a strict
curfew for ten pm, so it's probably about that time. It was either
fall or winter. It wasn't snowy, but it was cold and dark.
And when you're ins like such a small town like that, because they don't
have light pollution, it's really dark, like it's different than being in the
city. It's really dark, like there's the dimly lit street lights, but
even in between every street light, it's really dark, like it's just very
and it's very quiet, like you could hear a pin drop, if there's
a bird in the bush, you're gonna hear it. It's completely silent at
night. There is nothing going on in that town. You could hear somebody
talk from way down the road because it is so quiet there. So I'm
walking home, I'm almost at the end of my walk. I'm walking up
this one last deep hill. When it gets to the top of the hill,
I turn right, go three houses down, and my mom's house is
just at the end of it. So in between all these houses there's all
this forest and between the properties. So when I walk up the hill,
right in front of me is a chunk of thick forest. So I'm walking
up the hill, I'm looking down at my feet, and this noise catches
my attention, because in a town's so silent like this, when you hear
something, it's gonna alarm you. So what it caught my attention was hearing
this growling, snarling noise, and I instantly stopped dead in my tracks.
I'm like, what did what is that? I'm like almost afraid to look
up because this noise is so unfamiliar, Like I've heard cougars like scream in
the middle of night, bobcats make weird noises, so to hear this really
unfamiliar noise was just petrifying. So I've looked, I'm looking at my feet,
I hear this snarling noise, and I look up and coming out this
chunk of forest. Is this what I have described for years as a big
black beast, and when it first came out of the forest, it was
on its hind legs. And the weird thing too, is like you would
think a beast of this size, I would have heard it rustling through the
bushes, because like I would hear like a snake in the grass or a
bird in the bush. But I didn't hear anything. The only thing that
I heard was this snarling noise, and that's what caught my attention. So
I look up and I see this huge black beast and it's on its hind
legs when it's first coming out of the forest. So the first thing I
noticed, it's on its hind legs. It's massive, it's huge, it's
towering over me. It's about like at least like eight feet tall. It
had like really big broad shoulders, very like thick black matted hair, had
like pointed back ears, and it's on its hind legs, and it's coming
out of the forest and it's coming straight towards me, and I just stopped,
like I couldn't think, I couldn't breathe, like my heart didn't even
have time to race. I didn't have time to think, Like I didn't
I didn't know what to do, Like it was I could not believe what
I was seeing. So it comes out of forest, and then when it
comes on to the cement, it goes on all fours, and that's when
I kind of noticed it's really elongated arms, and even when it's on all
forests, it's still massive, like it's just absolutely huge, Like I could
not believe how big this thing is. That's why I know it was not
a bear, and I know it was not a cougar because of its huge
size, Like I couldnot believe it had really snarling teeth, and I was
just like petrified. So it comes out of the forest, it's on its
hind legs, goes on all fours, and it starts kind of like trotting
towards me, and I'm still just like pinned to my spot, stopped moving,
stop walking, and it's coming straight towards me, and then maybe about
five feet in front of me, it quickly just darted to the left and
went down this trail down to nipksh Park. And this trail is kind of
in between a couple of houses and then it's about like a minute or so
walk down to the park. So this whole interaction happened so quickly. It
just ran towards me, got a few feet in front of me, and
just darted to the left. I was just standing there like I just didn't
even know what to think. So I just booked it home and went to
bed and questioned forever what I had just seen. So the next day I'm
talking to some of my friends and they talk about how saw a beast thing
that night too, and I think they chalked it up to like it being
their imagination or that, like they didn't actually see it or something. But
it was the same night that I saw the thing, and they were at
Nipkish Park when they saw this thing, and I was like white in the
face when they told me they saw this beast because I'm like, I saw
this too, but I think they just thought it was funny and didn't really
believe what they had saw. But I was just like, wow, I
was not the only person to see this. This is crazy. So I
forgot about this story for years, and it wasn't until about three years ago.
I was on Reddit. I think it was like the paranormal thread and
somebody had posted this story about driving down the highway and then they saw this
beast thing just described it the same way as I had, and then it
darted in front of their car and it was on their hind legs and let
out like this big, loud, demonic scream. So I had to message
them and be like I'm sorry, Like where did this happen? They said,
happened outside of Courtney, which geographically shares the same forest as Gold River.
It takes it's like a three average drive, but the forest is like
they share the same forest, so it wouldn't be too outrageous for this thing
to have gone into this area. So I'm like, wow, that's so
crazy. So I was telling somebody recently about that experience, and they encouraged
me like do you know what this thing was? And I was like,
I have no idea. So they encouraged me to write about my story on
Reddit. So recently I had done that and somebody tagged another story that also
happened on Vancouver Island and about like kind of the same area. Their story
was like pretty scary. They were like four x fouring and they had come
up this trail and saw this thing dart across their car and same thing.
It was huge, black like everything I had described it to be and then
they turned the corner and this thing is like on its hind legs holding on
to a tree. And yeah, the story was like really crazy and it
was just so interesting to hear a story like that in the same area.
So this this like sparks my curiosity. I start listening to podcasts and watching
videos on YouTube and stuff. So I come across this YouTube video and it's
named like Native American Werewolf Legends Western and Northern Canada. So I opened this
video and the first thing that they mentioned was about these legends that date back
to indigenous people of the area. They mentioned a specific location called Yuqua Cove.
I'm sorry if I pronounced that not right. Equot is located on Nooka
Island, which is on the far far west side of Vancouver Island. It's
a boat ride from Gold River. It's often nicknamed Friendly Cove, which is
named the Spanish settlers, nicknamed for them for their people being so friendly and
nice. This cove is like an ancient piece of land and history of British
Columbia. This is the first ever recorded of Europeans landing and meeting the indigenous
people of British Columbia. Fun fact, I actually went to Friendly Cove when
I wasn't scouting as a kid. I think I was in grade six,
and I was actually the person that got to unveil a plaque for being like
a historian site. And I was personally chosen to un build a plaque.
So it was a really special moment that I was extremely honored to be chosen
to do that. So this band that's from Nooka Island is called Nuchalmyth machin
Mushlet. I'm pretty sure I said that right, but I extremely apologize if
I butchered it. So this band specifically has recordings from anthropologists and legends that
they're young men practicing strange winter rituals where certain young men were supposedly temporarily possessed
by spirits of coastal wolves. The first ever reporting of it was back in
eighteen oh three by a twenty year old English blacksmith who spent three years as
a slave to the Chief Mquinna, who is the chief of the Nokka Land.
There's lots of fascinating stories about this guy, actually, but this story
really hit home for me because Gold River is the closest civilization to Friendly Cove.
The indigenous people of Gold River are that exact band that they mentioned in
this video. So I just really blew my mind that all my friends that
I grew up with and their ancestors have most likely they referred to it as
a wolfman, but they most likely have been seeing this creature for like over
four thousand years. So it was just really interesting that this video specifically mentions
this band, because this band does not exist anywhere else in the world except
Gold River and the Nooka Island area, so specifically in Gold River. Yeah,
so at the time my encounter, I was like pretty petrified, but
now I'm curious as ever, and I feel pretty lucky to have this opportunity
to experience something like this, as it's like somewhat rare, and I'm happy
to be getting answers after all these years. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm
not alone and that I'm not a crazy conspiracy theorist. I feel validated and
have now come to find a group of people that I share connection with.
And yeah, it's becoming a more of a positive experience for me, which
I think before because I know not everybody feels positive about it, and I'm
just looking forward to seeing where this journey takes me and learning more about it.
So yeah, that's pretty much my story. Yeah, journey is right.
It can be a pretty long, twisting journey too, depending on how
the encounter played out. I'm just glad, like I told you, that
it didn't traumatize you the way so many encounters traumatize our witnesses. Thank goodness
for that. Yeah, And I think like the fact that I didn't know
what it was until now, when it was like eighteenish years or something,
so not knowing what it was or not being able to explain it, and
like back then they didn't I don't think it Reddit existed or anything, and
the Internet wasn't quite at your fingertips like it is now. So yeah,
I just never really got to look into it or thought about trying to figure
out what it was. So I'm happy to be here, like finding out
answers and knowing that there's a whole group of people that have been experiencing the
same thing that I have. Well, like I told you, more people
than you're ever gonna know have probably had encounters with these guys and just not
told you about it. So yeah, that's how it normally goes yeah.
And I'm wondering if sharing my story to the people of Gold River, if
anybody else has seen something that I have, and maybe, like me,
didn't know what it was, and maybe this will open up like a whole
story for them too. It just might. You never know. I told
you about how Joe told me about the guy, and I actually saw his
comment last week. Was it Monday or Friday night when we did episode five
twenty four? I think it was. But anyway, I saw I gotta
leave a comment. And apparently he lives like two blocks away from where Joe's
gonna move. So it's a small world. It's a small world there is.
You said that you're walking home the night that this encounter happened. How
close were you to home? Though in feet you said you were at the
bottom of the hill. You had to walk up the hill. But in
feet, if you had to guess to meet, how far do you think
you were from your front door? I would say like two hundred meters maybe,
if that makes sense. Oh, that's right, you're Canadian, so
yes, sorry meis I'm sorry? So about six hundred feet, which must
have felt like six miles to you. Oh, yeah, yeah, for
sure. Yeah, I'll bet how close was your nearest neighbor's home to you?
Then when you saw that dog man come busting out of the trees right
right beside me, Like I was on the right side of the road and
there was a house right beside me, did you know those people? Yeah?
Did the thought ever cross your mind to run to the front door or
did you figure, Okay, it's nighttime, I'm gonna just head for home
and hope for the best. Yeah, it was just like flight, fight
or flight. I was running. I'm a runner. Yeah, well you
can run, but not good enough to save yourself from one of these things
if it has the mindset to come after you. And that brings up another
question. You obviously didn't run from it, But did that thought ever cross
your mind? It happened so fast that, like I said, like I
couldn't even think move, Like my heart couldn't even race. I couldn't even
breathe or think fast enough. It happened so quickly, like I had no
idea what to do in that second, Like it was it would only it
was only like a couple of seconds, Like it was so quick, But
but it was. It's hard to like not deny it because it was so
close to me, Like it happened so quickly, but it came really close
to me, you said, about five feet away. Yeah, yeah,
that's way too close for comfort. Definitely. Yeah. I'd say when it
came out of the trees and was heading right toward you, was it showing
any emotion? You know what? So when I remember, so it comes
out, it's on its hind legs and it's like has a snarl, like
I don't even know how to describe it other than that, but it kind
of like looked left and right, and I don't know how to describe this,
but it kind of like had this like just like I don't know,
like a look or like kind of like an attitude or a look about it,
like ugh, like get out of my way, like like it didn't
want to see me. And I think that's why it darted so quickly down
into the forest and the trail. Yeah, that just might be why I
did that. But it's really hard to say. You can't even think for
people, so there's no way to think for these things. Yeah, but
I think if it wanted something to do with me, or if I wanted
to eat me or attack me, it would have. It came close enough,
and like, yeah, it seemed like it wasn't going to go down
that trail, Like it seemed like it was a last minute decision, Like
it got so close to me and just darted to the left. Yeah,
it's hard to say. More than likely it just saw an opportunity to get
a rise at you when it came out of the tree. So it came
over to you five feet away. Then I'm sure it could see from the
look on your face it was mission accomplished. So it turned and moved on
when it turned. Did you ever see a tail on it? No,
because it was so dark and it happened so quickly that and it was just
really dark. So the blackness of it just like kind of like camouflaged into
the forest and the dark. So because like there are street lights there,
but in between every street light, it's really dark in between, so like
it was brightened up, I could see it, but yeah, it's dark
fur really camouflaged into like the dark creepy night that was occurring already. Oh
yeah, I'll bet it was darkest pitch. Yeah, it came to within
five feet of you. Did you smell anything. Actually, yeah, that
is something I forgot to mention. It smelt. I didn't notice it at
the second, but when I started walking again because I had walked through the
area that it ran, it did like it smelt like I don't like garbage,
Like it smell disgusting and smell gross. It was like, yeah,
like it was, for lack of a better term, like a homeless person
that hadn't bathed in years or something like. It was. It was a
gross smell that I can't even put my finger on, Like, I don't
think I had every smelt anything like that in my life, all that you
hadn't and haven't. When your friends told you about seeing a dog man two,
did they describe the one they saw for you? In other words,
how sure are you or aren't you that the one that they saw was the
same one that you saw? Well? It was just like interesting that they
were hanging out a Nimpkish field, which was about a minute walk from where
it ran down, and it ran down that trail and if it kept going
down that trail, it would have went through Nimkish Park and that's where they
were all hanging out that night, and they were just kind of like,
hey, yeah. I remember when we saw that big black beast and I'm
like, uh, what do you mean? Because I had had that encounter
too, and I had asked, like, where where you guys, and
they're like, oh, we were at Nimkish and we saw this big black
beast run through the trail and it was like really hairy and it was massive
and like it like exactly what I would have described it to be. I
think that they didn't really believe what they had saw, but I know what
I thought. So I actually want to ask my friend about it. I
might send him this podcast and ask if he remembers seeing it guy, because
I'm not sure if he remembers because this so long ago, but I remember.
I wouldn't be surprised if he does remember it still, because that's a
pretty profound experience for sure. Yeah, yeah, it really is. Well,
the questions are flooding in, they are pouring in, so I'm looking
for the first one to ask. I'm gonna throw Spartan's question at you.
His question or her question is do you think it was a bluff charge or
did it just get distracted? Hmm, It's hard to say. I'm thinking
like maybe distracted, but I don't know. It was just weird how it
was like it was coming straight at me, and it seemed like it made
just the last minute decision to dart in the trail. Like I don't know
if it was coming straight at me for a reason or something, but maybe
it could have been. I yeah, I really don't know. Sorry,
I don't know how to answer that. Oh that's all right, we'll forgive
you the excellence from Jessa Dakota. And their question is how tall was it
on I think they're asking how tall was it on all fours? It's I'm
a bad judge of height, but I'm five six, and it was still
quite a bit taller than me, like at least like a like two or
three feet taller than me, I would say, And like the size of
its body was just like so wide, like like three or four or five
times wider than me, Like it was, yeah, and its shoulders were
just so broad and big. But even when it like it was massive on
when it was on its hind legs, but even when it was on all
fours, it was still way taller than me. Well, yeah, that's
pretty big. I'm not sure if you knew it. But on two legs.
It can be twelve feet tall when they're fully mature. Did you know
that? No, yea, that's huge. That's massive. It was massive,
Like I like what I saw on hind legs. I was just blown
away of its size. And then when it was on all fours, it
was still really big. Well yeah, yeah, even on all fours,
a dog me in that heith on two legs is still going to be big
as you saw with your own two eyes. So that's how it is,
like looking up when it was on its four or on all fours. Wow,
yeah, that is a big one. Then I've got another one for
you from dash down. They want to know do you feel you're still able
to communicate with the entity in any way? Have you tried? So?
I don't live in Gold River anymore, but my mom still does in the
same house, and I was just there a couple of weeks ago. So
I walk past that spot every single time that i'm there, and I do
think about it every time I see that little piece of forest that it ran
out of. I think this is all coming back to me just recently,
like since I was in Gold River last time. So I haven't tried to
communicate with any entity. I'm more worried about cougar's when I'm there, because
the probability of seeing a cougar is a lot higher than probably seeing this thing.
I don't know if I would want to communicate with it. I think,
like, when I think about it, it sounds interesting and intriguing,
but it was terrifying. I know that I'm like smiling and like saying it
was a positive experience, but it was very terrifying. Like I've that was
probably the scariest moment of my life. So I don't know how I would
try to communicate with it. If anybody has ideas, you can throw them
at me. So I wonder if the next time I go back to Gold
River if I would be interested in doing that. But it's also really scary.
I don't think i'd want to do it alone. Maybe if I had
somebody with me. Well, as far as communicating with you, some eyewitnesses
report was called mind speak, where they receive this telepathic form of communication,
they say, and I think that's basically what they were wondering about. If
you'd been telepathically communicated by what would appear to be that seeing dogman or not.
But in most cases with eyewitnesses that just doesn't happen. I've got another
question for you from Blood VIPA, and their question is did you notice the
eye color and smell from the dog man? Again? It was so dark.
I don't really remember its eyes, to be honest, Like I used
to think that it was like some kind of color, Like I used to
think it was red or like yellow or something. But I actually like don't
remember that well, and especially because it had been so quickly that it's like
hard to take in every single detail other than the ones that were extremely obvious,
like it's color, its size, the teeth, the snarling, the
noise like that was all very apparent. But I honestly can't really remember its
eyes that well. And I wish that I could. And that's another reason
why I wish kind of that I could see it again so I could have
a more confirmed answer. But to be honest, I can't really remember the
color of its eyes. Can you make that snarling sound that you said it
made for us one more time? I'm just messing with you. I wish
I could like imitate it the way that I heard it, because the snarling,
growling noise it was that was probably the most terrifying part of it,
Like even when it was close to me, that was really scary. But
to hear that noise and like not know what it is, especially when it's
used so silent there, that was terrifying. And like I've heard all kinds
of weird animals make noises, but that was like nothing I've ever heard in
my life. Oh, I'm sure hope you never hear it again and never
have another experience like that again. I've got a question for you from Mike
Triple seven year that you already answered. He wanted to know did the dog
men have an expression on its face when it saw you? Well, I
guess that is different from the question I asked, because he wants to know
about when it first saw you did have an expression on its face, So
yeah, if you can answer that for us. So, when I first
saw it, I didn't really notice an expression. It wasn't until it was
on all fours and when it was just starting like I guess right before it
turned to the left, that's when it like it kind of looked left and
right and kind of made this face that was like like I don't know,
like I don't know if it was like a human or like it looked like
unimpressed, like like I don't know if it like didn't want to see me,
or if it was like mad to see me, or if I was
in its way or I interrupted whatever he was doing. Yeah, it definitely
had an unimpressed look on his face, and he just kind of looked left
and right and like kind of like made like a breathing like like after the
initial snarling growl noise, You poor thing. I can only imagine what you
must have had going through your mind when all this was playing out, And
the fact that you disassociated yourself from that experience for as long as you did,
that tells me right there that it did affect you stronger than more than
likely you realize. So maybe that did help you. I don't know.
And it's been like many years, but even with it being so many years,
I can still remember that moment, Like it wasn't that long ago,
Like this is like around eighteen years ago, Like that's quite a big length
of time. But I can still picture that thing in my mind, and
I think I will till the day I die because it was something so unreal.
Well I'm sure you will. Yeah, how could you forget about something
like that. Well, I take that back. You did forget about it
for a period of time, but yeah, I think that was much more
so of a coping mechanism than anything else. But yeah, I guess like
the fact that I didn't know where it was or what it was. Sorry
that like, have you explained something if you don't even know what it was?
So I think maybe that was like contributing to why I didn't think about
it too much. Yeah, that could possibly explain it. I'm just glad
you didn't know what dog men were back then, because after talking with you
and everything, I think more than likely that would have made more difficult for
you to deal with that experience if you had heard about you knew what dog
men were back then. So thank goodness you didn't know. Yeah, honestly,
Yeah, if I had still been living in Gold River and knew what
that was, I would probably be way more scared to walk around. And
maybe now that I know what it is, when I go back there,
maybe I'll be more conscious about it. I think I will be now,
to be honest. Oh yeah, I think that's a given. Yeah,
that's automatic. There. I've got another one for you, Carissa, from
ace Ace wants to know. Well, this is actually a general question.
These wants to know. We aren't there also a lot of bigfoot They'll live
in Vancouver Island, and yeah, yeah, there is a lot of reportings,
especially in the Gold River area, again because it's such thick forest.
There is like this Gold River group on Facebook. Actually, just like a
couple of weeks ago, somebody thinks that they saw bigfoot. I watched the
video. I couldn't really see anything. I do have a friend who has
been a family friend of mine my whole life, and we were both in
scouting together and we used to go on hikes where we go on up into
the mountains, very very very remote, way more remote than Gold River is,
Like there's absolutely nothing out there. We go on these hikes and we
go up the mountain for like a few days, and there is this lake
at the top of one of the mountains somewhere between kempbell Iver and Gold River.
I'm not actually sure the mountain what it is, but there is a
lake up there. And my friend swears up and down there's nobody around except
them in this forest, and he saw a bigfoot jump out of the lake
and run into the forest, and he's like, nobody has to believe me.
He's like, but I know that I saw this. So yeah,
there is a lot of sightings in Gold River, or a lot of experiences
over years and years of bigfoot, and in Vancouver Island as a whole,
there's a lot of people saying that there is definitely something out there. So
I haven't seen anything, but I believe people that say that they have.
I've seen it, So I think that's pretty interesting. Well, it's no
surprise. I mean you talked about a perfect habitat for them. It's no
wonder, Yeah, no wonder. Nobody you can see them, right,
It's a perfect place for them to hide. Oh, definitely, great place
for them to run around and play and do whatever they want to do.
So no surprise there. Just to Dakota wants to know how tall was it
when it was standing up? You already addressed that. You said it was
eight and a half ish maybe nine feet tall. Yeah, it could have
even been taller than that. Like I am a bad judge of height,
so it could have even been more than ten feet. It was absolutely massive
though, so tall. Yeah, it must have been, must have been
awfully being the next one is from Marta Magdalena and her question is did you
get good vibes or bad vibes from them? Bad vibe for sure, especially
it's on its face that just gave me a bad vibe. And I don't
know, it just gave me this really dark, eerie feeling, especially to
not know what it is, and like it seemed like, I don't know,
like something out of this world. It seemed demonic, like it seemed
dark, it seemed just yeah, just terrifying. I did not have good
vibes from it at all, But I mean it didn't eat me, so
maybe it wasn't as bad as I assumed. But definitely bad vibes, yes,
yeah, well as you know, it could have definitely done that.
So yeah, it had a chance to, like if it wanted to,
it would have or it could have. That's right, it definitely would have
could have been would have. This next one up is from Denise C.
And she wants to know tell us about its front and back legs. Yeah,
so, like I said, the top off of it had very wide
muscular shoulders and then the bottom half of it was a lot thinner, like
it had the big broad shoulders and then it simmered down towards the bottom of
it, its legs and torso and everything was a lot smaller than like the
chest and the shoulders. And then when it was on all fours, I
realized how elong aided its arms were. Like it that I didn't realize how
elongated its arms were, and like how big it was still on all fours,
so and it like I don't know if I had paws or like I
thought I remembered seeing claws, But again, like it happened so quickly,
and it was interesting the way that it ran towards me, because it was
kind of trotting like a horse or something. It wasn't like how I would
picture like a wolf to run or something, or a dog or a cougar.
It was like kind of trotting like both of its front arms ahead and
then like trotting back and forth, not like not it was like in sync
with each other, not like one right pond in front of the left and
back and forth. It was like trotting like and it was kind of like
bouncing up and down as it trotted towards me, and then took a sharp
turn to the left and was gone so quick, and it was so quiet.
That's the other thing that was so weird is how quiet was because normally
a thing of the size you would hear it rustling through the deep, thick
forest like and it didn't make a sound coming out. It didn't make a
sound leaving. The only thing that I heard that caught my attention was it
snarling and growling at me. That doesn't surprise me. These guys can be
ridiculously quiet when they want to be. That reminds me of an eyewitness I
spoke with. For some reason, this stands. It sticks out of my
mind, even though it's a conversation I had with an eyewitness, probably about
five years ago. He went he was homeless at the time, if I
remember right, and he and his wife were camping in this tent. They
were living in this tent at this campground that didn't get very much traffic.
It was pretty late in the year. I think it was like November,
maybe early December. There are a lot of leaves blowing around, and it
was a windy night, maybe borderline almost stormy night, and they had just
settled down and were trying to fall asleep. I think when all of a
sudden, his wife heard something that sounded off, so she brought it to
his attention and he just brushed it off and told her to go to sleep.
If I remember right, well, she kept hearing this strange sound,
so she finally went and poked her head out of the tent and didn't see
anything. But then I think when she looked over the top of the tent
and back the opposite direction, that's when she saw I think two or three
dog men spread out, And then she noticed there were other dog men that
basically almost had that tent surrounded. The only opening was between that tent in
their car. So she screamed, and somehow she communicated to him that they
needed to get out of there right now. So they bolded for the car,
left everything in the tent understandably, so they boarded for the car and
got out of there. Well, I had a good long conversation with him,
trying to explain to him, Look, if your wife heard them,
especially on a night like that, when you have a lot of ambient noise
with leaves blowing around, the trees moving, the wind blowing, if you
heard them that night, then they wanted you to hear them. But I
just couldn't get that through to him, he was convinced that they saved themselves.
His wife hearing them out there outside of the tent is what saved them
because they were trying to ambush them in their tent. So you win something,
you lose some, but you try as I might. Like I said,
I just couldn't get through to this guy that, No, these guys
can be dead silent if they want to be. There's no way that you're
ever going to hear them coming, especially, like I said, a night
like that with a bunch of wind, the trees whipping around, the leaves
blowing around, or whatnot. If they don't want you to hear them,
especially on a night like that, you are not. I don't know.
Maybe he's still having trouble with that encounter to this day. But you know
what they say, you can't put tea into a cup that's already full.
Unfortunately, that's terrifying that they're travel impacts, not like shaking her in that
story. That sounds so scary. Yeah, they do sometimes, Carrissa,
But understand when you look at their daily cloric requirement and novelly get carnivore.
I mean, if they hung out in numbers with any kind of regularity,
they would deplete the resources in the area they are occupying in no time,
so it's in their best interest to only hang out alone in most cases.
That is, I'm sure they do come together, because yeah, credible eyewitnesses
have reported seeing them together in numbers, but when you look at the mechanics
of it, they're daily clorical requirements. There's just no way that it would
make sense for numbers of them to stay together for any period of time because,
like I said, they would just blow through all the resources in any
given area that they occupied. So just like grizzly bears they live alone and
other large predators like that, they live alone. Lions they live in numbers
and prides the way they do because the animals there in Africa are so plentiful,
the prey are so ridiculously plentiful that they can get away with doing that.
But over here you just don't have the resources like that. So that's
why I've got that opinion on that. But anyway, let's move on to
the next question. It is from a very experienced dog mean researcher named Dallsy
and Tariga. Hey, how that question he has one that's already been answered
but he asked this question, I think way back before I even asked you
it. He wants to know did it have a tail, And from what
you said, you didn't notice if it had a tail or not. Yeah,
honestly, it was just like happened so fast, and it was so
dark that when it would have went to the trail, which would have been
the only opportunity I would have noticed a tail. It was so dark and
it's dark fur, just like camouflage, and with the pitch blackness that I
can't remember seeing a tale. To be honest, I wish I could remember
better, and I wish that the encounter was longer so I could have really
taken in as many details as I can. But yeah, that's when I
honestly can't or can't answer that question because I don't know. I don't remember
seeing it, but it very well could have, and it could have just
been too dark to see the details of it. I'm glad your encounter wasn't
any longer. Be careful what you wish for, because yeah, that could
be a bad thing. Yeah that's true, fair enough, Yeah it can
be. I've got another one for you from Audacious Amber in This is up
to you if you want to answer this or not. It's totally up to
you, just like all of these questions, but she wants to know are
you religious? Do you believe in God? And if so, do you
think any of that played a role in it not hurting you? Again,
totally up to you if you want to answer that or not. There's no
pressure. I don't know what I believe in. To be honest, I
don't know if there is a God or if there's not. I think that
we all need to believe in a higher power of some sort. I think
if I have related to any religion, and maybe be Buddhism because I believe
in recarnation and stuff like that. But I'm not super really. I just
I've gone to church like a handful of times in my life. But yeah,
I'm not sure if that would play a role and why or why it
came to me or didn't attack me or something. I don't know if it
I guess that was just lucky. I don't know. Well, I don't
know that you're lucky. I mean, that is an mo for these guys
to try and frighten you to within an inch of your life, and once
they can see that's been accomplished. Move on. So and like we talked
about in that first conversation, that's how they normally operate. I'm never going
to say that there aren't dangerous ones out there that we'll rip you apart if
you have the opportunity. But yeah, that's clearly not what you encountered that
night, because if it was that way, then unfortunately you wouldn't be here.
And that's all there is to that, all right, Chris, I've
got another one for you from Daniel Ponce, and Daniel wants to know did
you notice the eye color or any eye shine? He answered that before.
Did the creature have a tail? He answered that as well. So we'll
move on to the next one, which is from Michigan Media. In a
second I saw this side note there saying dog man has a tail and were
wolf does not. That's interesting. Maybe it didn't have a tail if I
didn't notice it. And that's what the indigenous people of the area say that
it was a wolf man, that's what they refer to it as. So
maybe it didn't have a tail if I didn't see it. Maybe I'm not
one hundred percent sure though. That whole thing about dog men have tails and
were wolves don't have tails. Don't put much credence at all into that,
because that was put out there by a guy who claimed to be a government
operative who just happened to come on a podcast and try to spill the beans
about everything they supposedly knew or a lot of the things that they knew about
quote unquote dog men versus were wolves. They could tell you how many heros
were on a were wolve's right shoulder blade per square versus a dog man's.
Yeah, I mean, just every indication of being a charlatan. A person
who's a government operative is not going to come on a podcast like that and
spill the beans. It would be all too easy for the government to easily
identify who that person was, whether they say their name or not, identify
who it was that spilled the beans, and then address that person in a
way that would not be to their liking. Anyone who is an actual government
operative is going to realize that, and the last thing they're going to want
to do is come on a program and spill those beings and put their jeopardy,
put their life in jeopardy. So, yeah, whenever I see that
nonsense about well, dogmen have tails, and where wolves don't. It just
goes in one ear and right out the other, fair enough. Yeah,
Yeah, there's too much bad info. I've said it before. I'll say
it again. There is way too much bad info about dogmen floating around out
there, way too much. All right, I've got another question for you
from AlSi Anto Riga. He wants to know where it's ears on the side
or on the top of his head. I think we missed the last question.
It was about something to do with Gold River, if I still lived
there or something. Oh, yeah, I apologize. Yeah, Michigan mediater
wanted to know do you still live in gold River? Have you heard of
any other encounters or had any other weird things happen to you? I apologize,
It's all good. I just I noticed it, so I wanted to
answer it. I don't live in gold River still. I have moved away
to the city for like the last almost fifteen years, but my mom still
lives there. Like, I was just there a couple of weeks ago.
When I was younger, I lived in gold River. I found it like
a very interesting place to live. Like I've told a lot of friends weird
stories that have happened when I lived in Gold River and they're like, wow,
you have the craziest stories. I used to play with Beegie boards and
stuff when I was a kid. I know that's pretty controversial, but had
some paranormal experiences besides that. When I lift a Gold River and I think
Gold River is there's just a lot of history and there's lots of spirituality there.
So I think this beast thing was the weirdest thing I had. But
I also had some pretty scary stories with Beegie boards. Actually, I could
share one if you guys are interested. I've got a sleep tonight, Carissa,
Okay, No, I will hear about that later on, though,
I've got to hear about that. Now. I've got a paranormal themed show.
Maybe you can come on my Paranormal Experience and share those experiences and then
the other creepy experiences. You've had quite a few paranormal experiences actually, so
we can talk about that another time. Yeah. That sounds like a plan,
thank you. Yeah, yeah, looking forward to that all right now,
Alicie Andtariga wants to know where its ears on the side on the top
of his head. I believe they were like kind of on the top,
like pointed up. I had a really big head too, like it blended
into its shoulders. But I believe its ears were not so much on the
side, but maybe on the top. Yeah, for a Kenaine type dog,
I mean that's part for the course, that's what I would expect,
So that does fit. This next one up is from Glenn Kamata, and
Glenn wants to know did it have hind legs like a dog or a human?
Again, it happened so quickly that it's hard to decipher the difference.
I don't remember thinking it was human. But again, it was like so
dark and black and it's fur kind of camouflaged into like the darkness of it.
But yeah, the fact that it was on its hind legs was very
alarming to me. But when when that got down on like all fours,
I would say it was more like a dog or a wolf or something.
But its front arms were not like a dog or a wolf like they were
very long, elong aided. Yeah, that's that was what was a like
a definite factor. That wasn't a wolf or a cougar because they don't have
arms like that. No, they don't. Well, I've got some great
questions. Tonight, we got another good one from Spartan. Spartan wants to
know could hear the claws while he was running towards you. It's not like
I could hear a scratching or like I could just hear like maybe it's pads
like kind of when it was trotting. It's not like I can hear scratching
or clicking or something like that. But I could hear its feet trotting on
the ground. So I'm like, I get a it happened so quick,
but I'm pretty sure it had some kind of claw. Oh, I'm sure
it did too. Yeah, all dog enough claws on their feet, just
like on their fingertips. This next one up is from Alsieantariga. Also he
wants to know did it have a meme? Yeah, Like it's all of
its fur all on its head and its neck and its shoulders. Like the
fur was very thick, like very thick, matted long, not like super
long, but it was pretty long and very thick, and it had like
a really big head, really big shoulders, lots of thick hair, Like
I can see the thickness of its fur really well, would you say its
head was disproportionately large for its body or did it fit size wise? Yeah,
And it's funny because, like, now that I look at dog man
pictures, I think its head looked a lot bigger than the most of the
dog man photos that I've seen. It had a really big head. Yeah,
a lot of them do they do? This next one up is from
Daniel Ponce, and Daniel wants to know did the creature have a long snout
like a wolf or a German shepherd or just a short muzzle. I think
it was longer because its head was so big, And yeah, it had
like its mouth was open and it had really snarling teeth, so I could
like see that really well. But yeah, I wouldn't say it was a
short muzzle. And definitely because of the size of its head it was kind
of thick and longer. That answers that. I've got another one for you
from fellow patriot. He wants to know where did this happen? What state?
I do not live in the United States. I live in Canada.
Sorry if I didn't mention Canada, I thought that I did, but maybe
I missed that. So I live in British Columbia and it's on Vancouver Island
in British Columbia, on the very west coast, Gold River is located.
They call it North Island, but it's basically right smacked down in the middle
of Vancouver Island, but it's more on the west coast because there is an
inlet that comes in from the ocean, so that is where it's located.
British Columbia, Canada, Vancouver Island, Gold River. That answers that I've
got another one for you from NKD twenty eight to eighty three, Carissa.
He wants to know, or she wants to know, did you ever lock
eyes with it, even if for a fraction of a second when it was
trotting towards me and before it had moved its head left to right and then
kind of gave me this weird, disgusted look. Yeah, it was looking
at me right in the eye. I'm sure it was. Unfortunately. The
next one up is from Mike Triple seven year and Mike wants to know if
you did not hear footfalls before you saw it, what you said you did
hear some did you see any blurry ear as if portals as if it I
think what he meant to say was as if it could be a portal.
Thanks, that's an interesting question again because it was so dark. I definitely
didn't notice anything like that, but it, like, it still boggles my
mind that I could not hear it coming out prior maybe that's possible. I
don't really know the history of it, but yeah, definitely was just a
weird experience because I couldn't hear it coming out of the fourth and like I
definitely would have, so, yeah, that's still very curious to me.
How like I would hear a bird or a snake in that bush if there
was one. So the fact that something of that size could have been coming
out of the bush and then going into the other bush and I didn't hear
it, it's pretty pretty weird, weird and unfair. Well least it seems
unfair, or doesn't it. That's something that big can be so silent.
Yeah, it's like it doesn't even make sense. I don't even understand that
it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense. This next one up is from
xtask next task wants to know does she ever get a feeling it's near like
since then? Yeah, I think that's what they wanted to know. No,
And like not. I haven't, but again, like when I'm in
the area, like I don't. I haven't thought about it too too much.
But it'll be interesting if I get that feeling it ever again when I'm
there, because maybe maybe the same fear would come back to me if it
was in the area. You know, I'm not sure how that would work,
but it could be possible. I haven't so far. That's the only
experience and the only fear that I've felt from an encounter like that. But
maybe, Yeah, I don't know. It'd be interesting if it does happen,
though, but it hasn't so well, you never know. Like I
told you in that first conversation, if you've had an encounter with a dog
man in the past, that does predispose you to be in a position where
you're more likely to have another encounter with one than a person who's never had
an encounter to start with. It would appear. Now, I'm not gonna
say that you're doomed to have another encounter if you've already had one encounter with
a dog man, because yeah, that's not the case. There are plenty
of eyewitnesses who apparently never do have a follow up a second encounter, but
it does seem like if you have one encounter that does kind of open the
door for others to possibly happen, it makes you a little more likely than
most people to have them. So just something to keep in mind. This
next one up is from Andres Carizales, and Andres wants to know when the
dog man was walking on two feet, did it look natural or unnatural?
I would say unnatural for the fact that it was so large, and to
me, whatever this thing could have been at the time, which I was
unknown of what it was, it just didn't seem like, what the heck
is this big on its hind legs like it did not seem natural to me
at all. Yeah, I'm sure you were short circuiting trying to process everything.
So you're doing good to know your own name when all this was going
on. Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, i'd say you were. This
next one up is from d Truth. Hey, d D wants to know
did she mention the gender of the dog man? Yeah? I would have
no idea. I just keep saying he I don't know why. Maybe that's
not the right way to describe it, but yeah, I honestly have no
idea If it's a he or she or them or are they? Well,
like I told you before, you did really well soaking up all the details
from this thing that you did. I mean, I'm sure you're doing good
to know your own name. You're standing there, you're walking home. It's
like any other time you've walked home, no reason to think for a second
that anything out of the ordinary is going to happen. And the next thing
you know, you're being charged by a dog man. So for you to
notice all those details that you did, you really do deserve a lot of
credit because most people would have just locked up and they wouldn't have noticed anything.
They just would have been doing good to maintain consciousness. Yeah, for
how quick the encounter occurred, I'm surprised I could even gather that many details
about it. And even after it being so many years, I do still
remember it pretty well, but there's some details I wish I could remember better.
But again, like it happened so quickly, and it was dark when
it happened too, so it's hard to pick up as many details. But
it's also something that I can never forget, and it's something that I've never
seen seen or never heard of or never knew existed prior, So there's certain
details about it that will always stand out because of how different and rare it
was, and just nothing that I've ever seen before. So it's in that
sense it's easy to remember some details just because they're so obscure. Well,
I'm sure all those details that you did notice, that you did see,
they're going to be burned into your mind, and Neil, like I said,
you're never going to forget them. I don't know how you could.
No. Never. Yeah, maybe that's a good thing, maybe it's a
bad thing. But did you have any problems with nightmares? No? I
don't. I can't remember ever dreaming about it, to be honest, and
I have some pretty crazy dreams, so I don't remember dreaming about it,
But I wonder if I will now that it's been coming in my thoughts a
lot more lately. Sometimes my waking life will influence some crazy dreams, so
maybe they're coming. Might if you do start to have dreams, I just
hope they're good ones and not bad ones, because you know, if they're
bad, then that opens up a whole other can of worms unfortunately that I
hope you don't have to deal with. But yeah, if you ever do
have a problem with that, please do let me know. There's a lady
I know who apparently has a good way to handle that. Okay, cool,
I'll get to know. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, please keep that
in mind. I've got another one for you from Blood VIPA, and he
wants to know did your encounter happen in a year ending in either a seven,
four or one. Oh, that's an interesting question. I wonder what
the significance of that is. But I think it was two thousand and six
maybe, like uh, like I said, like, I think I was
around fifteen or sixteen. It was a long time ago, so it's a
little bit hard to remember, but I think it was like two thousand and
six, maybe two thousand and five somewhere around there. All Right, that
answers that, And yeah, that is obviously a loaded question. I'm not
sure why he wanted to know that unless there's some significance in years that end
in those digits. I'm sure there is some kind of a significance. But
yeah, you never did say what he was wanting to know that for.
But that's okay. I've got another question for you from dash Down, and
that question is when you look back at it, did it change you in
any way? Might it have been sent to send you a message? I
think, like, even with all the paranormal stuff I've experienced, I think
all those experiences kind of change your thoughts on the world in life. It's
not like it impacted me heavily, but I mean it's been eighteen years and
it's still something that is fresh in my mind now. So I'm not like
terribly upset about it or like not being able to hand well ER's anything.
But I think things happen for a reason. And maybe I don't know the
reason yet or now, and maybe one day I will. But yeah,
possibly I could have been there for a reason, or maybe it wanted me
to see it. Yeah, I don't really know exactly, but it's interesting
to think about. Yes, it is, and I'm pretty sure it did
want you to see it. I mean, it seems like when these encounters
happen, these guys will go miles out of the way to force an encounter
to happen, just for apparently nothing more than to get a response out of
the eyewitness unfortunately. But yeah, I'm sure that he wanted you to see
him and see him he did, so you got what it wanted. I'm
going to ask one more question from you, Carissa, and that is from
Michigan meat Eater, and he wants to know, did you notice anything odd
about the tips of its ears? Not really? Like I'm I'm also like
I do remember having pointy ears, but other than that, I can't really
remember too much about it. Like I think they were just furry. I
don't think like anything was different that I could pick up or notice about it.
And like I don't remember if it was missing a chunk out of its
ear or something like that. Like, I don't remember anything odd about it.
I just remember seeing that it had pointed up ears, and that's about
all I can remember about that. Did you see enough detail in its ears?
Probably not, but I'm going to ask you anyway, did you see
enough detail in its ears, Carissa to be able to compare its seers to
any particular breed of dog. Well, I had a German shepherd Akda,
and Akida's typically have pretty pointed ears, so it kind of reminded me of
that because like an akida's ears are very pointed up. And yeah, like
not, I wouldn't say it's exactly like that. But yeah, they're definitely
like very pointy and hairy and black and dark and about like the same size
of like like for the size of its head, its ears kind of like
made sense to be the size that they were. Well, yeah, that's
all I can really remember about its ears. Well that's a good way to
describe them. So I'd say that's a good answer. Well, we're about
out of time, Carrisa, but before we go, do you have any
clothes in comments you'd like to put out there for us. I'd just like
to say thank you everybody listening to my story, and I hope I hear
I would love to hear more stories of other people's experience, especially on Canada
and Vancouver Island or anybody's in general. But what I'm really curious about is
if I'm going to hear more stories about the area that it happened to me,
or in Vancouver Island in general, just because I think that's so interesting
and I would like to connect with people if they have stories like I do,
because it really blew me away to find out other people in the area
had seen the same thing that I had, and I'm just like in this
rabbit hole and I'm so curious and I want to know everything, and i
want to hear all the stories, and I'm excited to hear more about it.
It's a twisting and deep rabbit hole. That's a given. So yeah,
be careful what you wish for. And like I said, you just
might hear from people who've had encounters with them there on the island. I
wouldn't be surprised in the least if you do at all. Hope I do.
I'd be really excited about that. Yeah, well, I think it
just might be a matter of time. You never know. Time will tell.
But having said that, thanks so much for coming on and sharing the
details of your experience with this number one Carissa, and also answering all these
questions from the listeners. I appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate you
guys. And those were great questions. I wasn't sure if I'd have many
questions, but they were good because it got me thinking more in detail about
my encounters. So those are all really good questions. Thank you, guys.
Like I said, they were really good questions, so give them credit,
all right. Well, having said that, yeah, thanks again so
much for your time, Carissa, and have a great night. Thank you
you guys have a great night too. You're welcome. We'll see you well
before we get out of here. Like I said at the start of the
show, thanks so much for supporting these eyewitnesses. The way you do it
helps so much more than you're ever gonna know. I can't thank you enough
for that. But if you've had a dog man encounter and would like to
speak with me about it, whether in private or on the show, all
you have to do is go to dogmanencounters dot com submit a report, and
if you do that then I'll be more than happy to contact you and schedule
a film conversation with you so we can find out how the encounter played out
and if you need help, I can give it to you. But having
said that, thanks again so much for listening. Everyone. Have a great
weekend and an even better night.