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And last time I checked, the total number of 11 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,960 donations were up to like nine thousand dollars. I just don't know what to 12 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,599 say. I can't thank you enough for all the support you've given her. 13 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,120 Like I said last week on the show, even those of you who didn't 14 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:25,840 donate, there are a lot of you who did support her with your words 15 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:30,400 and everything, and I just can't thank you enough either. I really do 16 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:37,120 appreciate it. I really do well. Without any further ado, let's bring 17 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:44,479 on tonight's guest. Tonight's guest is Carissa. Carissa, thanks so much for 18 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:49,400 joining us. Thank you for having me. Oh, you're welcome. We 19 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,639 really appreciate your time. Carissa, Please give us a brief bio in yourself. 20 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,960 I am thirty three years old, work at an autoparts store. I'm 21 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:07,800 very artistic, I'm very open and very creative, grew up in a really 22 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,960 small town, and and yeah, don't what else to say other than that, 23 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:17,120 you know, it's funny. After doing who knows a many shows, 24 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:22,719 it seems like the bio is always the hardest part for a guess to nail, 25 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,080 because talking about other things is pretty easy in most cases, but talking 26 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,759 about yourself is just about as hard as it gets. So I know it's 27 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,840 not easy. It's not Carissa. When you were fifteen, that's when you 28 00:03:37,919 --> 00:03:40,759 had this encounter that we're going to talk about tonight. You think having it 29 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:46,120 at such young age shape the person you grew up to be today. Well, 30 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:53,000 living in a small town, I experienced a lot of interesting things that 31 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:57,919 I think not most people would have experienced at that age, and this story 32 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:02,080 is just like a prime example of that. Yeah, i'd say it is. 33 00:04:02,759 --> 00:04:05,560 You mentioned that it was a small town. But it was actually a 34 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:11,159 small town called gold River on Vancouver Island. What can you tell us about 35 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:17,319 the place. It's smaller than I think most people realize. It is an 36 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:24,160 hour away from anything else. It's tons of forest, lots of deep, 37 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,519 thick forest, like the tiniest little town you've ever seen that. You didn't 38 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:30,759 have cell phone service when I lived there. They only got it like a 39 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,839 year or two ago. Very remote. Like most people that grew up on 40 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,720 Vancouver Island and think they know the island, I say, hey, I'm 41 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,279 from gold River, and most of the time they're like, where's that. 42 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,439 So it's really not a well known place, but absolutely beautiful place to grow 43 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,879 up in. I had the best times, the best experiences. I wouldn't 44 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,879 have wanted to be raised anywhere else. So it was a wonderful place to 45 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,519 live. I'll bet it is. And it was. Yeah, for the 46 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,040 longest time, I've just wanted I would have given anything to live on Vancouver 47 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,240 Island because it seems like such a great place. I mean, you talk 48 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:11,639 about beauty, the place is beautiful. But I'm sure a lot of people 49 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,759 listening to the show tonight don't know a thing about Vancouver Island. What can 50 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,759 you tell us about it? It's the most beautiful place in the world. 51 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:24,240 If you love hiking, if you love lakes, it's really like God at 52 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,040 all. You can go surfing, you can go on the lakes, on 53 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,800 the rivers, camping. There's smaller cities there. If you've never been to 54 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:38,199 Vancouver Island, you should definitely try to make a trip out there, because 55 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,279 everybody in BC and Canada want to live on Vancouver Island. It is the 56 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:46,240 best part of Canada by far. It is legendary. Everybody loves it. 57 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:51,600 I'm really proud and happy to be from a place that's so beautiful and wonderful. 58 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,839 Well, I can understand why you would be. And you know too, 59 00:05:57,959 --> 00:06:01,319 Carrista. When people hear island she lived on Vancouver Island, they think, 60 00:06:01,399 --> 00:06:05,040 okay, well it's a small place. A lot of people they don't 61 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:10,720 get the idea behind how big Vancouver Island actually is. Please tell us about 62 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,680 that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Vancouver Island is bigger than Japan. Like 63 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,759 it is, like I say, an island, but it's a massive island, 64 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:23,000 like it would probably take a day and a half to drive from the 65 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:29,800 bottom to the top. It is awfully big. It is, and for 66 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:32,680 people listening, there's some kind of an artifact that I hear. Every once 67 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,279 in a while, I hear a click. I'm not sure what's going on 68 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:40,959 with stream Yard, but everything's clean on my end. Whatever is clicking or 69 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,000 popping must be through stream Yard, So I apologize for that. It's not 70 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,000 going to be in the podcast version of the show. The podcast versions of 71 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,360 these live streams are always cleaned up and don't have these problems. But yeah, 72 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:56,879 for the YouTube side, unfortunately, I can't take that away, So 73 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,000 again I apologize. But having said that, Carissa, what was the most 74 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,279 frightening animal experience you had on Vancouver Island that didn't involve that dogged me in 75 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,800 cougars for sure. I was gonna mention a story in my little or like 76 00:07:13,839 --> 00:07:20,240 a little side story about a cougar interaction that I dumbly did. But cougar's 77 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:25,319 like in Gold River is actually the highest density of cougars in the whole world. 78 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:29,839 I believe, like they're everywhere, They're always lurking around. I was 79 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,279 just there a couple of weeks ago and there and everyone's dash cams are not 80 00:07:34,399 --> 00:07:39,519 dash cams but like front door cams, there's always cougars roaming around, like 81 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,079 they're everywhere. They've attacked people, they eat people's animals all the time. 82 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,439 So I've seen lots of black bearris but as long as you're bear aware, 83 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,399 they're not a threat. They're usually just eating berries. I've come across so 84 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:55,839 many black bears, and I'm not usually that afraid of them, but cougars 85 00:07:55,839 --> 00:07:59,360 I am definitely afraid of because they will attack you. So that's definitely the 86 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:05,079 biggest threat there. Well, yeah, that would definitely complicate going for walks 87 00:08:05,079 --> 00:08:09,199 in the woods. If you had a population of cougars that thick, that 88 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,199 dinse, that would definitely do it. From what I understand, Carissa, 89 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,600 you forgot about your encounter for a period of time. How long did you 90 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:24,199 go without thinking about it? Like it was just like three years ago that 91 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:30,399 it kind of popped up into my memory thanks to reading a story on Reddit 92 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,799 that was similar to mine. So for probably like I don't know, like 93 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:39,919 twelve years or something, I guess, maybe longer than that, I guess 94 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,080 I didn't remember or like just kind of in the past. So I was 95 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,759 glad that I'd come across this story on Reddit because it brought me here now, 96 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,799 and it's like opened up this curiosity and I never really knew what it 97 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:56,600 was that I saw, Like I actually didn't know what dog Man was until 98 00:08:56,639 --> 00:09:01,320 him very recently, because I always just referred to it as this beast, 99 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,840 because I could not make sense of whatever I had seen because it was nothing 100 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:11,639 that I had known of prior to this. Did being able to finally put 101 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,120 a name on what you saw running out of the woods towards you make it 102 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:20,320 easier to deal with or did it not make a difference? Yeah, Well, 103 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,279 it's got me like a lot more curious of like what it was, 104 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,639 and the fact that other people in the area have seen it too, So 105 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,159 yeah, I don't think. I think I would be terrified if it happened 106 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,240 again, for sure, But now it's just like open up this big curiosity 107 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,200 for me. You said it opened up a form of curiosity for you, 108 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:46,039 But I'm wondering, does that mean that you think maybe sometime down the road 109 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,320 you might actually go out looking for these guys or no, thank you ask 110 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,919 me that. Like the some people that I pulled a story to, They're 111 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:56,519 like, let's go look for it, and I'm like, no, because 112 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,879 like, even if I did go look for it, what if I see 113 00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:01,360 a cougar, Like I'm actually it's more likely than I'm going to see a 114 00:10:01,399 --> 00:10:05,960 cougar, and that's kind of just as scary. So yeah, I don't 115 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,159 know, I don't think I would. Well, that's good. I always 116 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,960 tell people be careful what you wish for, because yeah, sometimes if you 117 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:18,960 go out there trying to research them, they'll follow you home and try to 118 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,679 research you. So please keep that in mind. Yes, for sure, 119 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,600 not a good thing. All right, Carissa, please tell us about your 120 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,320 encounter. Now give us a real last detail that comes to mind. Okay, 121 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,919 first of all, thank you everybody for listening to my story. So, 122 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,159 like I just said, I grew up in Vancouver Island. It's in 123 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:48,919 the province of British Columbia on the west coast. Very very small, remote 124 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:54,519 town. It's an hour away from any other civilization. It takes like ten 125 00:10:54,519 --> 00:11:01,320 minutes to walk across the town. Like where my mom lives, there's like 126 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,799 it's on the edge of town, so there's no behind her house. It's 127 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,120 like forest and beyond like there's nothing, no houses, no cities, no 128 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:18,000 towns beyond that. Yeah, so living in Gold River, you'd obviously come 129 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:26,120 across lots of bears and cougars. One time, I was very drunk and 130 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,759 young, and I saw a cougar run past me, but I actually thought 131 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:33,399 it was a Golden retriever and I went running after it and I said, 132 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,639 cut your puppy, and my friends were like, Carissa, that's a cougar. 133 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:41,240 And then when I my drunk vision focused on it, I'm like, 134 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:45,440 oh, my gosh, that is a cougar. So I've seen lots of 135 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,279 cougars up close. Actually, when we moved into my house in Gold River, 136 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,879 there was a cougar den in our backyard and there was a dead cougar 137 00:11:56,919 --> 00:11:58,919 in it, like something had killed it, which I never really thought of 138 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:05,720 recently what kind of predator would be killing a cougar. So that was kind 139 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,440 of crazy experience. So I've seen lots of bears. I've seen lots of 140 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,279 cougars. The wolves are a little bit more shy, so they don't really 141 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:18,879 come into town as much. And there's lots of elks. I've seen lots 142 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:22,320 of elk, and there's deer. There's bobcats, but they don't come around 143 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:28,600 very often either. So I've seen a lot of animals, been around them 144 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,360 a lot. But whatever I saw this night was definitely nothing that I had 145 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:41,320 ever seen or knew prior to this or existed. So I was about fifteen 146 00:12:41,399 --> 00:12:48,720 or sixteen. I was walking home alone, which was an often occurrence there. 147 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,840 My mom trusted me to walk across town. I was at my friend's 148 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,360 house. Must have been a Friday or Saturday night. I had a strict 149 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:05,000 curfew for ten pm, so it's probably about that time. It was either 150 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,960 fall or winter. It wasn't snowy, but it was cold and dark. 151 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,720 And when you're ins like such a small town like that, because they don't 152 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:16,759 have light pollution, it's really dark, like it's different than being in the 153 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:20,919 city. It's really dark, like there's the dimly lit street lights, but 154 00:13:22,799 --> 00:13:26,600 even in between every street light, it's really dark, like it's just very 155 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:28,720 and it's very quiet, like you could hear a pin drop, if there's 156 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,600 a bird in the bush, you're gonna hear it. It's completely silent at 157 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,279 night. There is nothing going on in that town. You could hear somebody 158 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,279 talk from way down the road because it is so quiet there. So I'm 159 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:46,759 walking home, I'm almost at the end of my walk. I'm walking up 160 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:50,480 this one last deep hill. When it gets to the top of the hill, 161 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:54,759 I turn right, go three houses down, and my mom's house is 162 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:58,600 just at the end of it. So in between all these houses there's all 163 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,279 this forest and between the properties. So when I walk up the hill, 164 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:09,679 right in front of me is a chunk of thick forest. So I'm walking 165 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:15,360 up the hill, I'm looking down at my feet, and this noise catches 166 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,480 my attention, because in a town's so silent like this, when you hear 167 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:26,159 something, it's gonna alarm you. So what it caught my attention was hearing 168 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,720 this growling, snarling noise, and I instantly stopped dead in my tracks. 169 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,360 I'm like, what did what is that? I'm like almost afraid to look 170 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:43,120 up because this noise is so unfamiliar, Like I've heard cougars like scream in 171 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:48,840 the middle of night, bobcats make weird noises, so to hear this really 172 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:54,519 unfamiliar noise was just petrifying. So I've looked, I'm looking at my feet, 173 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:00,320 I hear this snarling noise, and I look up and coming out this 174 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,159 chunk of forest. Is this what I have described for years as a big 175 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:11,039 black beast, and when it first came out of the forest, it was 176 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:16,120 on its hind legs. And the weird thing too, is like you would 177 00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:20,000 think a beast of this size, I would have heard it rustling through the 178 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:24,159 bushes, because like I would hear like a snake in the grass or a 179 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:26,879 bird in the bush. But I didn't hear anything. The only thing that 180 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,320 I heard was this snarling noise, and that's what caught my attention. So 181 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:37,159 I look up and I see this huge black beast and it's on its hind 182 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,559 legs when it's first coming out of the forest. So the first thing I 183 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:46,360 noticed, it's on its hind legs. It's massive, it's huge, it's 184 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:52,799 towering over me. It's about like at least like eight feet tall. It 185 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:58,320 had like really big broad shoulders, very like thick black matted hair, had 186 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,600 like pointed back ears, and it's on its hind legs, and it's coming 187 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,279 out of the forest and it's coming straight towards me, and I just stopped, 188 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,480 like I couldn't think, I couldn't breathe, like my heart didn't even 189 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:17,120 have time to race. I didn't have time to think, Like I didn't 190 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,679 I didn't know what to do, Like it was I could not believe what 191 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:25,440 I was seeing. So it comes out of forest, and then when it 192 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,799 comes on to the cement, it goes on all fours, and that's when 193 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,000 I kind of noticed it's really elongated arms, and even when it's on all 194 00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:38,080 forests, it's still massive, like it's just absolutely huge, Like I could 195 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,600 not believe how big this thing is. That's why I know it was not 196 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,519 a bear, and I know it was not a cougar because of its huge 197 00:16:45,559 --> 00:16:52,159 size, Like I couldnot believe it had really snarling teeth, and I was 198 00:16:52,279 --> 00:16:56,720 just like petrified. So it comes out of the forest, it's on its 199 00:16:56,799 --> 00:17:02,039 hind legs, goes on all fours, and it starts kind of like trotting 200 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,480 towards me, and I'm still just like pinned to my spot, stopped moving, 201 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:12,160 stop walking, and it's coming straight towards me, and then maybe about 202 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:18,119 five feet in front of me, it quickly just darted to the left and 203 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,160 went down this trail down to nipksh Park. And this trail is kind of 204 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,640 in between a couple of houses and then it's about like a minute or so 205 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:32,559 walk down to the park. So this whole interaction happened so quickly. It 206 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:36,359 just ran towards me, got a few feet in front of me, and 207 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:42,240 just darted to the left. I was just standing there like I just didn't 208 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,319 even know what to think. So I just booked it home and went to 209 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:53,920 bed and questioned forever what I had just seen. So the next day I'm 210 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:00,759 talking to some of my friends and they talk about how saw a beast thing 211 00:18:00,839 --> 00:18:06,119 that night too, and I think they chalked it up to like it being 212 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,279 their imagination or that, like they didn't actually see it or something. But 213 00:18:11,079 --> 00:18:12,079 it was the same night that I saw the thing, and they were at 214 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,240 Nipkish Park when they saw this thing, and I was like white in the 215 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,160 face when they told me they saw this beast because I'm like, I saw 216 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,680 this too, but I think they just thought it was funny and didn't really 217 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,839 believe what they had saw. But I was just like, wow, I 218 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:32,000 was not the only person to see this. This is crazy. So I 219 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:36,839 forgot about this story for years, and it wasn't until about three years ago. 220 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,400 I was on Reddit. I think it was like the paranormal thread and 221 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:47,839 somebody had posted this story about driving down the highway and then they saw this 222 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,680 beast thing just described it the same way as I had, and then it 223 00:18:52,759 --> 00:18:56,240 darted in front of their car and it was on their hind legs and let 224 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,519 out like this big, loud, demonic scream. So I had to message 225 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:04,599 them and be like I'm sorry, Like where did this happen? They said, 226 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:11,200 happened outside of Courtney, which geographically shares the same forest as Gold River. 227 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,680 It takes it's like a three average drive, but the forest is like 228 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:21,200 they share the same forest, so it wouldn't be too outrageous for this thing 229 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,480 to have gone into this area. So I'm like, wow, that's so 230 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:33,000 crazy. So I was telling somebody recently about that experience, and they encouraged 231 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:36,440 me like do you know what this thing was? And I was like, 232 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,240 I have no idea. So they encouraged me to write about my story on 233 00:19:41,319 --> 00:19:48,319 Reddit. So recently I had done that and somebody tagged another story that also 234 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:53,720 happened on Vancouver Island and about like kind of the same area. Their story 235 00:19:53,839 --> 00:19:59,960 was like pretty scary. They were like four x fouring and they had come 236 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,519 up this trail and saw this thing dart across their car and same thing. 237 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:08,160 It was huge, black like everything I had described it to be and then 238 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:14,000 they turned the corner and this thing is like on its hind legs holding on 239 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,079 to a tree. And yeah, the story was like really crazy and it 240 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:23,079 was just so interesting to hear a story like that in the same area. 241 00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:32,279 So this this like sparks my curiosity. I start listening to podcasts and watching 242 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,000 videos on YouTube and stuff. So I come across this YouTube video and it's 243 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:44,880 named like Native American Werewolf Legends Western and Northern Canada. So I opened this 244 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:52,039 video and the first thing that they mentioned was about these legends that date back 245 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:57,680 to indigenous people of the area. They mentioned a specific location called Yuqua Cove. 246 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:03,200 I'm sorry if I pronounced that not right. Equot is located on Nooka 247 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:07,240 Island, which is on the far far west side of Vancouver Island. It's 248 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,079 a boat ride from Gold River. It's often nicknamed Friendly Cove, which is 249 00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:18,240 named the Spanish settlers, nicknamed for them for their people being so friendly and 250 00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:23,079 nice. This cove is like an ancient piece of land and history of British 251 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Columbia. This is the first ever recorded of Europeans landing and meeting the indigenous 252 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:36,359 people of British Columbia. Fun fact, I actually went to Friendly Cove when 253 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,160 I wasn't scouting as a kid. I think I was in grade six, 254 00:21:40,519 --> 00:21:45,599 and I was actually the person that got to unveil a plaque for being like 255 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,599 a historian site. And I was personally chosen to un build a plaque. 256 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,599 So it was a really special moment that I was extremely honored to be chosen 257 00:21:53,599 --> 00:22:00,799 to do that. So this band that's from Nooka Island is called Nuchalmyth machin 258 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,319 Mushlet. I'm pretty sure I said that right, but I extremely apologize if 259 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:15,799 I butchered it. So this band specifically has recordings from anthropologists and legends that 260 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:23,480 they're young men practicing strange winter rituals where certain young men were supposedly temporarily possessed 261 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:29,160 by spirits of coastal wolves. The first ever reporting of it was back in 262 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,920 eighteen oh three by a twenty year old English blacksmith who spent three years as 263 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,759 a slave to the Chief Mquinna, who is the chief of the Nokka Land. 264 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,119 There's lots of fascinating stories about this guy, actually, but this story 265 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:48,440 really hit home for me because Gold River is the closest civilization to Friendly Cove. 266 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,359 The indigenous people of Gold River are that exact band that they mentioned in 267 00:22:53,440 --> 00:23:00,079 this video. So I just really blew my mind that all my friends that 268 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:06,000 I grew up with and their ancestors have most likely they referred to it as 269 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,599 a wolfman, but they most likely have been seeing this creature for like over 270 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:18,000 four thousand years. So it was just really interesting that this video specifically mentions 271 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,640 this band, because this band does not exist anywhere else in the world except 272 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:30,519 Gold River and the Nooka Island area, so specifically in Gold River. Yeah, 273 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:33,759 so at the time my encounter, I was like pretty petrified, but 274 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:40,319 now I'm curious as ever, and I feel pretty lucky to have this opportunity 275 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,640 to experience something like this, as it's like somewhat rare, and I'm happy 276 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,640 to be getting answers after all these years. I feel comfortable knowing that I'm 277 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:55,160 not alone and that I'm not a crazy conspiracy theorist. I feel validated and 278 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,440 have now come to find a group of people that I share connection with. 279 00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:03,599 And yeah, it's becoming a more of a positive experience for me, which 280 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:10,000 I think before because I know not everybody feels positive about it, and I'm 281 00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:14,799 just looking forward to seeing where this journey takes me and learning more about it. 282 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,319 So yeah, that's pretty much my story. Yeah, journey is right. 283 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:23,880 It can be a pretty long, twisting journey too, depending on how 284 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,400 the encounter played out. I'm just glad, like I told you, that 285 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:32,359 it didn't traumatize you the way so many encounters traumatize our witnesses. Thank goodness 286 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,240 for that. Yeah, And I think like the fact that I didn't know 287 00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:41,200 what it was until now, when it was like eighteenish years or something, 288 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:45,200 so not knowing what it was or not being able to explain it, and 289 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,319 like back then they didn't I don't think it Reddit existed or anything, and 290 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:55,000 the Internet wasn't quite at your fingertips like it is now. So yeah, 291 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:57,759 I just never really got to look into it or thought about trying to figure 292 00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:02,640 out what it was. So I'm happy to be here, like finding out 293 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,200 answers and knowing that there's a whole group of people that have been experiencing the 294 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,720 same thing that I have. Well, like I told you, more people 295 00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:15,559 than you're ever gonna know have probably had encounters with these guys and just not 296 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,480 told you about it. So yeah, that's how it normally goes yeah. 297 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:26,359 And I'm wondering if sharing my story to the people of Gold River, if 298 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,680 anybody else has seen something that I have, and maybe, like me, 299 00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:33,640 didn't know what it was, and maybe this will open up like a whole 300 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:37,839 story for them too. It just might. You never know. I told 301 00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:41,119 you about how Joe told me about the guy, and I actually saw his 302 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:47,720 comment last week. Was it Monday or Friday night when we did episode five 303 00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:51,119 twenty four? I think it was. But anyway, I saw I gotta 304 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,160 leave a comment. And apparently he lives like two blocks away from where Joe's 305 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,000 gonna move. So it's a small world. It's a small world there is. 306 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,359 You said that you're walking home the night that this encounter happened. How 307 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,319 close were you to home? Though in feet you said you were at the 308 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,680 bottom of the hill. You had to walk up the hill. But in 309 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,519 feet, if you had to guess to meet, how far do you think 310 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:21,920 you were from your front door? I would say like two hundred meters maybe, 311 00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,640 if that makes sense. Oh, that's right, you're Canadian, so 312 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:33,160 yes, sorry meis I'm sorry? So about six hundred feet, which must 313 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,200 have felt like six miles to you. Oh, yeah, yeah, for 314 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:41,640 sure. Yeah, I'll bet how close was your nearest neighbor's home to you? 315 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Then when you saw that dog man come busting out of the trees right 316 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:48,880 right beside me, Like I was on the right side of the road and 317 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:56,119 there was a house right beside me, did you know those people? Yeah? 318 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,480 Did the thought ever cross your mind to run to the front door or 319 00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:03,319 did you figure, Okay, it's nighttime, I'm gonna just head for home 320 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,880 and hope for the best. Yeah, it was just like flight, fight 321 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,599 or flight. I was running. I'm a runner. Yeah, well you 322 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,240 can run, but not good enough to save yourself from one of these things 323 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,319 if it has the mindset to come after you. And that brings up another 324 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,480 question. You obviously didn't run from it, But did that thought ever cross 325 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:32,160 your mind? It happened so fast that, like I said, like I 326 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,519 couldn't even think move, Like my heart couldn't even race. I couldn't even 327 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:41,720 breathe or think fast enough. It happened so quickly, like I had no 328 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,200 idea what to do in that second, Like it was it would only it 329 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,039 was only like a couple of seconds, Like it was so quick, But 330 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:55,440 but it was. It's hard to like not deny it because it was so 331 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,400 close to me, Like it happened so quickly, but it came really close 332 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,759 to me, you said, about five feet away. Yeah, yeah, 333 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:10,160 that's way too close for comfort. Definitely. Yeah. I'd say when it 334 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,680 came out of the trees and was heading right toward you, was it showing 335 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:18,480 any emotion? You know what? So when I remember, so it comes 336 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:22,119 out, it's on its hind legs and it's like has a snarl, like 337 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:26,920 I don't even know how to describe it other than that, but it kind 338 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,519 of like looked left and right, and I don't know how to describe this, 339 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,119 but it kind of like had this like just like I don't know, 340 00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:40,160 like a look or like kind of like an attitude or a look about it, 341 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,319 like ugh, like get out of my way, like like it didn't 342 00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:48,200 want to see me. And I think that's why it darted so quickly down 343 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,880 into the forest and the trail. Yeah, that just might be why I 344 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,720 did that. But it's really hard to say. You can't even think for 345 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,279 people, so there's no way to think for these things. Yeah, but 346 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,720 I think if it wanted something to do with me, or if I wanted 347 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,359 to eat me or attack me, it would have. It came close enough, 348 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,720 and like, yeah, it seemed like it wasn't going to go down 349 00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:15,039 that trail, Like it seemed like it was a last minute decision, Like 350 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:19,440 it got so close to me and just darted to the left. Yeah, 351 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,319 it's hard to say. More than likely it just saw an opportunity to get 352 00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:26,720 a rise at you when it came out of the tree. So it came 353 00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,000 over to you five feet away. Then I'm sure it could see from the 354 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,880 look on your face it was mission accomplished. So it turned and moved on 355 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:41,240 when it turned. Did you ever see a tail on it? No, 356 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:47,200 because it was so dark and it happened so quickly that and it was just 357 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:53,599 really dark. So the blackness of it just like kind of like camouflaged into 358 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,640 the forest and the dark. So because like there are street lights there, 359 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,200 but in between every street light, it's really dark in between, so like 360 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:07,319 it was brightened up, I could see it, but yeah, it's dark 361 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:15,559 fur really camouflaged into like the dark creepy night that was occurring already. Oh 362 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,720 yeah, I'll bet it was darkest pitch. Yeah, it came to within 363 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:22,759 five feet of you. Did you smell anything. Actually, yeah, that 364 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,119 is something I forgot to mention. It smelt. I didn't notice it at 365 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,240 the second, but when I started walking again because I had walked through the 366 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:37,759 area that it ran, it did like it smelt like I don't like garbage, 367 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,440 Like it smell disgusting and smell gross. It was like, yeah, 368 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:47,519 like it was, for lack of a better term, like a homeless person 369 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,319 that hadn't bathed in years or something like. It was. It was a 370 00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:52,759 gross smell that I can't even put my finger on, Like, I don't 371 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,240 think I had every smelt anything like that in my life, all that you 372 00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:03,359 hadn't and haven't. When your friends told you about seeing a dog man two, 373 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,839 did they describe the one they saw for you? In other words, 374 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,880 how sure are you or aren't you that the one that they saw was the 375 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:17,000 same one that you saw? Well? It was just like interesting that they 376 00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:21,640 were hanging out a Nimpkish field, which was about a minute walk from where 377 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:23,680 it ran down, and it ran down that trail and if it kept going 378 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,720 down that trail, it would have went through Nimkish Park and that's where they 379 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,559 were all hanging out that night, and they were just kind of like, 380 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,640 hey, yeah. I remember when we saw that big black beast and I'm 381 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:40,359 like, uh, what do you mean? Because I had had that encounter 382 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,160 too, and I had asked, like, where where you guys, and 383 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,000 they're like, oh, we were at Nimkish and we saw this big black 384 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:49,720 beast run through the trail and it was like really hairy and it was massive 385 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:55,880 and like it like exactly what I would have described it to be. I 386 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,240 think that they didn't really believe what they had saw, but I know what 387 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:05,240 I thought. So I actually want to ask my friend about it. I 388 00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:08,279 might send him this podcast and ask if he remembers seeing it guy, because 389 00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:12,240 I'm not sure if he remembers because this so long ago, but I remember. 390 00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:16,440 I wouldn't be surprised if he does remember it still, because that's a 391 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:22,839 pretty profound experience for sure. Yeah, yeah, it really is. Well, 392 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:28,920 the questions are flooding in, they are pouring in, so I'm looking 393 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,559 for the first one to ask. I'm gonna throw Spartan's question at you. 394 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,720 His question or her question is do you think it was a bluff charge or 395 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:49,920 did it just get distracted? Hmm, It's hard to say. I'm thinking 396 00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:54,039 like maybe distracted, but I don't know. It was just weird how it 397 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:58,640 was like it was coming straight at me, and it seemed like it made 398 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,480 just the last minute decision to dart in the trail. Like I don't know 399 00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:08,759 if it was coming straight at me for a reason or something, but maybe 400 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:12,119 it could have been. I yeah, I really don't know. Sorry, 401 00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:15,359 I don't know how to answer that. Oh that's all right, we'll forgive 402 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:22,519 you the excellence from Jessa Dakota. And their question is how tall was it 403 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:30,400 on I think they're asking how tall was it on all fours? It's I'm 404 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,079 a bad judge of height, but I'm five six, and it was still 405 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,519 quite a bit taller than me, like at least like a like two or 406 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,720 three feet taller than me, I would say, And like the size of 407 00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:47,079 its body was just like so wide, like like three or four or five 408 00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:52,200 times wider than me, Like it was, yeah, and its shoulders were 409 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,599 just so broad and big. But even when it like it was massive on 410 00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:59,079 when it was on its hind legs, but even when it was on all 411 00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:04,720 fours, it was still way taller than me. Well, yeah, that's 412 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,000 pretty big. I'm not sure if you knew it. But on two legs. 413 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,400 It can be twelve feet tall when they're fully mature. Did you know 414 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,320 that? No, yea, that's huge. That's massive. It was massive, 415 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,840 Like I like what I saw on hind legs. I was just blown 416 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,760 away of its size. And then when it was on all fours, it 417 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:29,760 was still really big. Well yeah, yeah, even on all fours, 418 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,639 a dog me in that heith on two legs is still going to be big 419 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:37,519 as you saw with your own two eyes. So that's how it is, 420 00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:43,559 like looking up when it was on its four or on all fours. Wow, 421 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,000 yeah, that is a big one. Then I've got another one for 422 00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:50,840 you from dash down. They want to know do you feel you're still able 423 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,480 to communicate with the entity in any way? Have you tried? So? 424 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,960 I don't live in Gold River anymore, but my mom still does in the 425 00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:01,039 same house, and I was just there a couple of weeks ago. So 426 00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:06,880 I walk past that spot every single time that i'm there, and I do 427 00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:10,199 think about it every time I see that little piece of forest that it ran 428 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,559 out of. I think this is all coming back to me just recently, 429 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:21,440 like since I was in Gold River last time. So I haven't tried to 430 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,440 communicate with any entity. I'm more worried about cougar's when I'm there, because 431 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,559 the probability of seeing a cougar is a lot higher than probably seeing this thing. 432 00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:35,159 I don't know if I would want to communicate with it. I think, 433 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,719 like, when I think about it, it sounds interesting and intriguing, 434 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,760 but it was terrifying. I know that I'm like smiling and like saying it 435 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,599 was a positive experience, but it was very terrifying. Like I've that was 436 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,400 probably the scariest moment of my life. So I don't know how I would 437 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,039 try to communicate with it. If anybody has ideas, you can throw them 438 00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,079 at me. So I wonder if the next time I go back to Gold 439 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:06,679 River if I would be interested in doing that. But it's also really scary. 440 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,960 I don't think i'd want to do it alone. Maybe if I had 441 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:14,639 somebody with me. Well, as far as communicating with you, some eyewitnesses 442 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:20,079 report was called mind speak, where they receive this telepathic form of communication, 443 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,679 they say, and I think that's basically what they were wondering about. If 444 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:28,719 you'd been telepathically communicated by what would appear to be that seeing dogman or not. 445 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:35,239 But in most cases with eyewitnesses that just doesn't happen. I've got another 446 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,519 question for you from Blood VIPA, and their question is did you notice the 447 00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:45,280 eye color and smell from the dog man? Again? It was so dark. 448 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,880 I don't really remember its eyes, to be honest, Like I used 449 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,679 to think that it was like some kind of color, Like I used to 450 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,920 think it was red or like yellow or something. But I actually like don't 451 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,679 remember that well, and especially because it had been so quickly that it's like 452 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,519 hard to take in every single detail other than the ones that were extremely obvious, 453 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:12,760 like it's color, its size, the teeth, the snarling, the 454 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:19,400 noise like that was all very apparent. But I honestly can't really remember its 455 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,159 eyes that well. And I wish that I could. And that's another reason 456 00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:27,599 why I wish kind of that I could see it again so I could have 457 00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,920 a more confirmed answer. But to be honest, I can't really remember the 458 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,559 color of its eyes. Can you make that snarling sound that you said it 459 00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:43,280 made for us one more time? I'm just messing with you. I wish 460 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,199 I could like imitate it the way that I heard it, because the snarling, 461 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,719 growling noise it was that was probably the most terrifying part of it, 462 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,199 Like even when it was close to me, that was really scary. But 463 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,800 to hear that noise and like not know what it is, especially when it's 464 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,119 used so silent there, that was terrifying. And like I've heard all kinds 465 00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:08,599 of weird animals make noises, but that was like nothing I've ever heard in 466 00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:14,519 my life. Oh, I'm sure hope you never hear it again and never 467 00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:19,199 have another experience like that again. I've got a question for you from Mike 468 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,599 Triple seven year that you already answered. He wanted to know did the dog 469 00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:28,360 men have an expression on its face when it saw you? Well, I 470 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,920 guess that is different from the question I asked, because he wants to know 471 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,199 about when it first saw you did have an expression on its face, So 472 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,719 yeah, if you can answer that for us. So, when I first 473 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,639 saw it, I didn't really notice an expression. It wasn't until it was 474 00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:49,679 on all fours and when it was just starting like I guess right before it 475 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,840 turned to the left, that's when it like it kind of looked left and 476 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:58,960 right and kind of made this face that was like like I don't know, 477 00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:01,840 like I don't know if it was like a human or like it looked like 478 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,360 unimpressed, like like I don't know if it like didn't want to see me, 479 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,840 or if it was like mad to see me, or if I was 480 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:16,239 in its way or I interrupted whatever he was doing. Yeah, it definitely 481 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,679 had an unimpressed look on his face, and he just kind of looked left 482 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:27,039 and right and like kind of like made like a breathing like like after the 483 00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:31,840 initial snarling growl noise, You poor thing. I can only imagine what you 484 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,440 must have had going through your mind when all this was playing out, And 485 00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:40,800 the fact that you disassociated yourself from that experience for as long as you did, 486 00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,599 that tells me right there that it did affect you stronger than more than 487 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,960 likely you realize. So maybe that did help you. I don't know. 488 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,480 And it's been like many years, but even with it being so many years, 489 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:01,760 I can still remember that moment, Like it wasn't that long ago, 490 00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:07,039 Like this is like around eighteen years ago, Like that's quite a big length 491 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:10,280 of time. But I can still picture that thing in my mind, and 492 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,639 I think I will till the day I die because it was something so unreal. 493 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,559 Well I'm sure you will. Yeah, how could you forget about something 494 00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,079 like that. Well, I take that back. You did forget about it 495 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:25,199 for a period of time, but yeah, I think that was much more 496 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,400 so of a coping mechanism than anything else. But yeah, I guess like 497 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,079 the fact that I didn't know where it was or what it was. Sorry 498 00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,760 that like, have you explained something if you don't even know what it was? 499 00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:43,960 So I think maybe that was like contributing to why I didn't think about 500 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,599 it too much. Yeah, that could possibly explain it. I'm just glad 501 00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,519 you didn't know what dog men were back then, because after talking with you 502 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:57,639 and everything, I think more than likely that would have made more difficult for 503 00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:00,639 you to deal with that experience if you had heard about you knew what dog 504 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,960 men were back then. So thank goodness you didn't know. Yeah, honestly, 505 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,039 Yeah, if I had still been living in Gold River and knew what 506 00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:13,400 that was, I would probably be way more scared to walk around. And 507 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,079 maybe now that I know what it is, when I go back there, 508 00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:19,719 maybe I'll be more conscious about it. I think I will be now, 509 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,800 to be honest. Oh yeah, I think that's a given. Yeah, 510 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,679 that's automatic. There. I've got another one for you, Carissa, from 511 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,599 ace Ace wants to know. Well, this is actually a general question. 512 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,960 These wants to know. We aren't there also a lot of bigfoot They'll live 513 00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:39,119 in Vancouver Island, and yeah, yeah, there is a lot of reportings, 514 00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:44,199 especially in the Gold River area, again because it's such thick forest. 515 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,119 There is like this Gold River group on Facebook. Actually, just like a 516 00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:52,320 couple of weeks ago, somebody thinks that they saw bigfoot. I watched the 517 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,800 video. I couldn't really see anything. I do have a friend who has 518 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000 been a family friend of mine my whole life, and we were both in 519 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:06,039 scouting together and we used to go on hikes where we go on up into 520 00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:10,360 the mountains, very very very remote, way more remote than Gold River is, 521 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,199 Like there's absolutely nothing out there. We go on these hikes and we 522 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,760 go up the mountain for like a few days, and there is this lake 523 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,599 at the top of one of the mountains somewhere between kempbell Iver and Gold River. 524 00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:25,599 I'm not actually sure the mountain what it is, but there is a 525 00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:31,000 lake up there. And my friend swears up and down there's nobody around except 526 00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:36,239 them in this forest, and he saw a bigfoot jump out of the lake 527 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,159 and run into the forest, and he's like, nobody has to believe me. 528 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,639 He's like, but I know that I saw this. So yeah, 529 00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:45,480 there is a lot of sightings in Gold River, or a lot of experiences 530 00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:50,480 over years and years of bigfoot, and in Vancouver Island as a whole, 531 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,199 there's a lot of people saying that there is definitely something out there. So 532 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,840 I haven't seen anything, but I believe people that say that they have. 533 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,039 I've seen it, So I think that's pretty interesting. Well, it's no 534 00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:07,400 surprise. I mean you talked about a perfect habitat for them. It's no 535 00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:10,079 wonder, Yeah, no wonder. Nobody you can see them, right, 536 00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:15,360 It's a perfect place for them to hide. Oh, definitely, great place 537 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,519 for them to run around and play and do whatever they want to do. 538 00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:23,519 So no surprise there. Just to Dakota wants to know how tall was it 539 00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:28,280 when it was standing up? You already addressed that. You said it was 540 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,039 eight and a half ish maybe nine feet tall. Yeah, it could have 541 00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:36,039 even been taller than that. Like I am a bad judge of height, 542 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,239 so it could have even been more than ten feet. It was absolutely massive 543 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:45,000 though, so tall. Yeah, it must have been, must have been 544 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:52,800 awfully being the next one is from Marta Magdalena and her question is did you 545 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,719 get good vibes or bad vibes from them? Bad vibe for sure, especially 546 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:05,119 it's on its face that just gave me a bad vibe. And I don't 547 00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:10,199 know, it just gave me this really dark, eerie feeling, especially to 548 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:16,119 not know what it is, and like it seemed like, I don't know, 549 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:21,079 like something out of this world. It seemed demonic, like it seemed 550 00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:25,480 dark, it seemed just yeah, just terrifying. I did not have good 551 00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:30,079 vibes from it at all, But I mean it didn't eat me, so 552 00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:35,639 maybe it wasn't as bad as I assumed. But definitely bad vibes, yes, 553 00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:38,559 yeah, well as you know, it could have definitely done that. 554 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,960 So yeah, it had a chance to, like if it wanted to, 555 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,880 it would have or it could have. That's right, it definitely would have 556 00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:52,599 could have been would have. This next one up is from Denise C. 557 00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:58,920 And she wants to know tell us about its front and back legs. Yeah, 558 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,280 so, like I said, the top off of it had very wide 559 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:07,639 muscular shoulders and then the bottom half of it was a lot thinner, like 560 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:13,119 it had the big broad shoulders and then it simmered down towards the bottom of 561 00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:16,679 it, its legs and torso and everything was a lot smaller than like the 562 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:23,159 chest and the shoulders. And then when it was on all fours, I 563 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:29,239 realized how elong aided its arms were. Like it that I didn't realize how 564 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,360 elongated its arms were, and like how big it was still on all fours, 565 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,119 so and it like I don't know if I had paws or like I 566 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:43,639 thought I remembered seeing claws, But again, like it happened so quickly, 567 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,559 and it was interesting the way that it ran towards me, because it was 568 00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:54,039 kind of trotting like a horse or something. It wasn't like how I would 569 00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:59,320 picture like a wolf to run or something, or a dog or a cougar. 570 00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:05,920 It was like kind of trotting like both of its front arms ahead and 571 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,239 then like trotting back and forth, not like not it was like in sync 572 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,960 with each other, not like one right pond in front of the left and 573 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,480 back and forth. It was like trotting like and it was kind of like 574 00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:21,360 bouncing up and down as it trotted towards me, and then took a sharp 575 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:27,079 turn to the left and was gone so quick, and it was so quiet. 576 00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:30,719 That's the other thing that was so weird is how quiet was because normally 577 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,199 a thing of the size you would hear it rustling through the deep, thick 578 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,480 forest like and it didn't make a sound coming out. It didn't make a 579 00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:43,559 sound leaving. The only thing that I heard that caught my attention was it 580 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:49,320 snarling and growling at me. That doesn't surprise me. These guys can be 581 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,679 ridiculously quiet when they want to be. That reminds me of an eyewitness I 582 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:58,840 spoke with. For some reason, this stands. It sticks out of my 583 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,159 mind, even though it's a conversation I had with an eyewitness, probably about 584 00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:06,079 five years ago. He went he was homeless at the time, if I 585 00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:10,320 remember right, and he and his wife were camping in this tent. They 586 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,760 were living in this tent at this campground that didn't get very much traffic. 587 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,400 It was pretty late in the year. I think it was like November, 588 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,119 maybe early December. There are a lot of leaves blowing around, and it 589 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:34,159 was a windy night, maybe borderline almost stormy night, and they had just 590 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,840 settled down and were trying to fall asleep. I think when all of a 591 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:45,800 sudden, his wife heard something that sounded off, so she brought it to 592 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,840 his attention and he just brushed it off and told her to go to sleep. 593 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,480 If I remember right, well, she kept hearing this strange sound, 594 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,199 so she finally went and poked her head out of the tent and didn't see 595 00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:00,199 anything. But then I think when she looked over the top of the tent 596 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,480 and back the opposite direction, that's when she saw I think two or three 597 00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:09,239 dog men spread out, And then she noticed there were other dog men that 598 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:15,440 basically almost had that tent surrounded. The only opening was between that tent in 599 00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:22,559 their car. So she screamed, and somehow she communicated to him that they 600 00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:25,360 needed to get out of there right now. So they bolded for the car, 601 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,800 left everything in the tent understandably, so they boarded for the car and 602 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,760 got out of there. Well, I had a good long conversation with him, 603 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,599 trying to explain to him, Look, if your wife heard them, 604 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,000 especially on a night like that, when you have a lot of ambient noise 605 00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:46,480 with leaves blowing around, the trees moving, the wind blowing, if you 606 00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:52,119 heard them that night, then they wanted you to hear them. But I 607 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,960 just couldn't get that through to him, he was convinced that they saved themselves. 608 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,800 His wife hearing them out there outside of the tent is what saved them 609 00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:06,360 because they were trying to ambush them in their tent. So you win something, 610 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,320 you lose some, but you try as I might. Like I said, 611 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,800 I just couldn't get through to this guy that, No, these guys 612 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,199 can be dead silent if they want to be. There's no way that you're 613 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,679 ever going to hear them coming, especially, like I said, a night 614 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,960 like that with a bunch of wind, the trees whipping around, the leaves 615 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,119 blowing around, or whatnot. If they don't want you to hear them, 616 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,239 especially on a night like that, you are not. I don't know. 617 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,800 Maybe he's still having trouble with that encounter to this day. But you know 618 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,639 what they say, you can't put tea into a cup that's already full. 619 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:45,360 Unfortunately, that's terrifying that they're travel impacts, not like shaking her in that 620 00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:50,159 story. That sounds so scary. Yeah, they do sometimes, Carrissa, 621 00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:54,280 But understand when you look at their daily cloric requirement and novelly get carnivore. 622 00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:59,760 I mean, if they hung out in numbers with any kind of regularity, 623 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,920 they would deplete the resources in the area they are occupying in no time, 624 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:09,440 so it's in their best interest to only hang out alone in most cases. 625 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,159 That is, I'm sure they do come together, because yeah, credible eyewitnesses 626 00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:17,440 have reported seeing them together in numbers, but when you look at the mechanics 627 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,239 of it, they're daily clorical requirements. There's just no way that it would 628 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,400 make sense for numbers of them to stay together for any period of time because, 629 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,440 like I said, they would just blow through all the resources in any 630 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:35,239 given area that they occupied. So just like grizzly bears they live alone and 631 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:42,039 other large predators like that, they live alone. Lions they live in numbers 632 00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:47,159 and prides the way they do because the animals there in Africa are so plentiful, 633 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,760 the prey are so ridiculously plentiful that they can get away with doing that. 634 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:59,599 But over here you just don't have the resources like that. So that's 635 00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:02,920 why I've got that opinion on that. But anyway, let's move on to 636 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,199 the next question. It is from a very experienced dog mean researcher named Dallsy 637 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:14,039 and Tariga. Hey, how that question he has one that's already been answered 638 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,800 but he asked this question, I think way back before I even asked you 639 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,320 it. He wants to know did it have a tail, And from what 640 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,280 you said, you didn't notice if it had a tail or not. Yeah, 641 00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:28,880 honestly, it was just like happened so fast, and it was so 642 00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:32,559 dark that when it would have went to the trail, which would have been 643 00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:37,239 the only opportunity I would have noticed a tail. It was so dark and 644 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,280 it's dark fur, just like camouflage, and with the pitch blackness that I 645 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,400 can't remember seeing a tale. To be honest, I wish I could remember 646 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,280 better, and I wish that the encounter was longer so I could have really 647 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,159 taken in as many details as I can. But yeah, that's when I 648 00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:59,440 honestly can't or can't answer that question because I don't know. I don't remember 649 00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:01,239 seeing it, but it very well could have, and it could have just 650 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:07,920 been too dark to see the details of it. I'm glad your encounter wasn't 651 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,719 any longer. Be careful what you wish for, because yeah, that could 652 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,199 be a bad thing. Yeah that's true, fair enough, Yeah it can 653 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,599 be. I've got another one for you from Audacious Amber in This is up 654 00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:23,719 to you if you want to answer this or not. It's totally up to 655 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,320 you, just like all of these questions, but she wants to know are 656 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,679 you religious? Do you believe in God? And if so, do you 657 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,440 think any of that played a role in it not hurting you? Again, 658 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,960 totally up to you if you want to answer that or not. There's no 659 00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:44,840 pressure. I don't know what I believe in. To be honest, I 660 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,840 don't know if there is a God or if there's not. I think that 661 00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:51,639 we all need to believe in a higher power of some sort. I think 662 00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:55,639 if I have related to any religion, and maybe be Buddhism because I believe 663 00:52:55,679 --> 00:53:00,320 in recarnation and stuff like that. But I'm not super really. I just 664 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,599 I've gone to church like a handful of times in my life. But yeah, 665 00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:08,840 I'm not sure if that would play a role and why or why it 666 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:15,599 came to me or didn't attack me or something. I don't know if it 667 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:20,639 I guess that was just lucky. I don't know. Well, I don't 668 00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:22,559 know that you're lucky. I mean, that is an mo for these guys 669 00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:25,559 to try and frighten you to within an inch of your life, and once 670 00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:30,039 they can see that's been accomplished. Move on. So and like we talked 671 00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,920 about in that first conversation, that's how they normally operate. I'm never going 672 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,440 to say that there aren't dangerous ones out there that we'll rip you apart if 673 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:42,159 you have the opportunity. But yeah, that's clearly not what you encountered that 674 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,199 night, because if it was that way, then unfortunately you wouldn't be here. 675 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,079 And that's all there is to that, all right, Chris, I've 676 00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:54,280 got another one for you from Daniel Ponce, and Daniel wants to know did 677 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,920 you notice the eye color or any eye shine? He answered that before. 678 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:04,760 Did the creature have a tail? He answered that as well. So we'll 679 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,599 move on to the next one, which is from Michigan Media. In a 680 00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:13,239 second I saw this side note there saying dog man has a tail and were 681 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,599 wolf does not. That's interesting. Maybe it didn't have a tail if I 682 00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:23,039 didn't notice it. And that's what the indigenous people of the area say that 683 00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:27,320 it was a wolf man, that's what they refer to it as. So 684 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,320 maybe it didn't have a tail if I didn't see it. Maybe I'm not 685 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,039 one hundred percent sure though. That whole thing about dog men have tails and 686 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,440 were wolves don't have tails. Don't put much credence at all into that, 687 00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:43,320 because that was put out there by a guy who claimed to be a government 688 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,440 operative who just happened to come on a podcast and try to spill the beans 689 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:52,079 about everything they supposedly knew or a lot of the things that they knew about 690 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,119 quote unquote dog men versus were wolves. They could tell you how many heros 691 00:54:55,519 --> 00:55:00,639 were on a were wolve's right shoulder blade per square versus a dog man's. 692 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,480 Yeah, I mean, just every indication of being a charlatan. A person 693 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,719 who's a government operative is not going to come on a podcast like that and 694 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:15,639 spill the beans. It would be all too easy for the government to easily 695 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,599 identify who that person was, whether they say their name or not, identify 696 00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:24,719 who it was that spilled the beans, and then address that person in a 697 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:30,039 way that would not be to their liking. Anyone who is an actual government 698 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:34,559 operative is going to realize that, and the last thing they're going to want 699 00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:38,199 to do is come on a program and spill those beings and put their jeopardy, 700 00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:43,840 put their life in jeopardy. So, yeah, whenever I see that 701 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,920 nonsense about well, dogmen have tails, and where wolves don't. It just 702 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:52,280 goes in one ear and right out the other, fair enough. Yeah, 703 00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:54,320 Yeah, there's too much bad info. I've said it before. I'll say 704 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,559 it again. There is way too much bad info about dogmen floating around out 705 00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:05,119 there, way too much. All right, I've got another question for you 706 00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:07,960 from AlSi Anto Riga. He wants to know where it's ears on the side 707 00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:12,679 or on the top of his head. I think we missed the last question. 708 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,320 It was about something to do with Gold River, if I still lived 709 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,719 there or something. Oh, yeah, I apologize. Yeah, Michigan mediater 710 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,559 wanted to know do you still live in gold River? Have you heard of 711 00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:25,960 any other encounters or had any other weird things happen to you? I apologize, 712 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,840 It's all good. I just I noticed it, so I wanted to 713 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,679 answer it. I don't live in gold River still. I have moved away 714 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,679 to the city for like the last almost fifteen years, but my mom still 715 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,000 lives there. Like, I was just there a couple of weeks ago. 716 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,480 When I was younger, I lived in gold River. I found it like 717 00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:52,239 a very interesting place to live. Like I've told a lot of friends weird 718 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,280 stories that have happened when I lived in Gold River and they're like, wow, 719 00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:01,000 you have the craziest stories. I used to play with Beegie boards and 720 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:06,079 stuff when I was a kid. I know that's pretty controversial, but had 721 00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:10,079 some paranormal experiences besides that. When I lift a Gold River and I think 722 00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:15,000 Gold River is there's just a lot of history and there's lots of spirituality there. 723 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:21,199 So I think this beast thing was the weirdest thing I had. But 724 00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:25,519 I also had some pretty scary stories with Beegie boards. Actually, I could 725 00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:30,679 share one if you guys are interested. I've got a sleep tonight, Carissa, 726 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,440 Okay, No, I will hear about that later on, though, 727 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,719 I've got to hear about that. Now. I've got a paranormal themed show. 728 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,840 Maybe you can come on my Paranormal Experience and share those experiences and then 729 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,360 the other creepy experiences. You've had quite a few paranormal experiences actually, so 730 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,920 we can talk about that another time. Yeah. That sounds like a plan, 731 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,280 thank you. Yeah, yeah, looking forward to that all right now, 732 00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:00,480 Alicie Andtariga wants to know where its ears on the side on the top 733 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,679 of his head. I believe they were like kind of on the top, 734 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,679 like pointed up. I had a really big head too, like it blended 735 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:14,559 into its shoulders. But I believe its ears were not so much on the 736 00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:19,760 side, but maybe on the top. Yeah, for a Kenaine type dog, 737 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,599 I mean that's part for the course, that's what I would expect, 738 00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:28,360 So that does fit. This next one up is from Glenn Kamata, and 739 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,039 Glenn wants to know did it have hind legs like a dog or a human? 740 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:39,519 Again, it happened so quickly that it's hard to decipher the difference. 741 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,719 I don't remember thinking it was human. But again, it was like so 742 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:52,119 dark and black and it's fur kind of camouflaged into like the darkness of it. 743 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,000 But yeah, the fact that it was on its hind legs was very 744 00:58:57,199 --> 00:59:01,360 alarming to me. But when when that got down on like all fours, 745 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:07,880 I would say it was more like a dog or a wolf or something. 746 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:14,039 But its front arms were not like a dog or a wolf like they were 747 00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:21,800 very long, elong aided. Yeah, that's that was what was a like 748 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,760 a definite factor. That wasn't a wolf or a cougar because they don't have 749 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:30,039 arms like that. No, they don't. Well, I've got some great 750 00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:35,559 questions. Tonight, we got another good one from Spartan. Spartan wants to 751 00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:40,199 know could hear the claws while he was running towards you. It's not like 752 00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:45,920 I could hear a scratching or like I could just hear like maybe it's pads 753 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,840 like kind of when it was trotting. It's not like I can hear scratching 754 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:57,320 or clicking or something like that. But I could hear its feet trotting on 755 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,840 the ground. So I'm like, I get a it happened so quick, 756 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:06,000 but I'm pretty sure it had some kind of claw. Oh, I'm sure 757 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,400 it did too. Yeah, all dog enough claws on their feet, just 758 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:14,440 like on their fingertips. This next one up is from Alsieantariga. Also he 759 01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:19,480 wants to know did it have a meme? Yeah, Like it's all of 760 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,480 its fur all on its head and its neck and its shoulders. Like the 761 01:00:22,519 --> 01:00:28,199 fur was very thick, like very thick, matted long, not like super 762 01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:30,199 long, but it was pretty long and very thick, and it had like 763 01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:35,199 a really big head, really big shoulders, lots of thick hair, Like 764 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,559 I can see the thickness of its fur really well, would you say its 765 01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:45,599 head was disproportionately large for its body or did it fit size wise? Yeah, 766 01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:49,159 And it's funny because, like, now that I look at dog man 767 01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:52,480 pictures, I think its head looked a lot bigger than the most of the 768 01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:59,440 dog man photos that I've seen. It had a really big head. Yeah, 769 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,880 a lot of them do they do? This next one up is from 770 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,960 Daniel Ponce, and Daniel wants to know did the creature have a long snout 771 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:13,159 like a wolf or a German shepherd or just a short muzzle. I think 772 01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:16,920 it was longer because its head was so big, And yeah, it had 773 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:22,119 like its mouth was open and it had really snarling teeth, so I could 774 01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:27,119 like see that really well. But yeah, I wouldn't say it was a 775 01:01:27,199 --> 01:01:30,880 short muzzle. And definitely because of the size of its head it was kind 776 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:38,400 of thick and longer. That answers that. I've got another one for you 777 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:43,719 from fellow patriot. He wants to know where did this happen? What state? 778 01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:46,639 I do not live in the United States. I live in Canada. 779 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,840 Sorry if I didn't mention Canada, I thought that I did, but maybe 780 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:57,639 I missed that. So I live in British Columbia and it's on Vancouver Island 781 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,280 in British Columbia, on the very west coast, Gold River is located. 782 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:07,199 They call it North Island, but it's basically right smacked down in the middle 783 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:12,159 of Vancouver Island, but it's more on the west coast because there is an 784 01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:15,519 inlet that comes in from the ocean, so that is where it's located. 785 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:23,239 British Columbia, Canada, Vancouver Island, Gold River. That answers that I've 786 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:28,199 got another one for you from NKD twenty eight to eighty three, Carissa. 787 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,559 He wants to know, or she wants to know, did you ever lock 788 01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:35,719 eyes with it, even if for a fraction of a second when it was 789 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:42,400 trotting towards me and before it had moved its head left to right and then 790 01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:46,440 kind of gave me this weird, disgusted look. Yeah, it was looking 791 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:53,239 at me right in the eye. I'm sure it was. Unfortunately. The 792 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:58,199 next one up is from Mike Triple seven year and Mike wants to know if 793 01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:00,440 you did not hear footfalls before you saw it, what you said you did 794 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:07,679 hear some did you see any blurry ear as if portals as if it I 795 01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:10,000 think what he meant to say was as if it could be a portal. 796 01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:16,079 Thanks, that's an interesting question again because it was so dark. I definitely 797 01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:22,360 didn't notice anything like that, but it, like, it still boggles my 798 01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:29,119 mind that I could not hear it coming out prior maybe that's possible. I 799 01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:32,880 don't really know the history of it, but yeah, definitely was just a 800 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,719 weird experience because I couldn't hear it coming out of the fourth and like I 801 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:42,480 definitely would have, so, yeah, that's still very curious to me. 802 01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:45,519 How like I would hear a bird or a snake in that bush if there 803 01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:50,719 was one. So the fact that something of that size could have been coming 804 01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:52,480 out of the bush and then going into the other bush and I didn't hear 805 01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:59,639 it, it's pretty pretty weird, weird and unfair. Well least it seems 806 01:03:59,679 --> 01:04:01,920 unfair, or doesn't it. That's something that big can be so silent. 807 01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:05,320 Yeah, it's like it doesn't even make sense. I don't even understand that 808 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,440 it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense. This next one up is from 809 01:04:11,679 --> 01:04:16,920 xtask next task wants to know does she ever get a feeling it's near like 810 01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:21,920 since then? Yeah, I think that's what they wanted to know. No, 811 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,880 And like not. I haven't, but again, like when I'm in 812 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,639 the area, like I don't. I haven't thought about it too too much. 813 01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:36,400 But it'll be interesting if I get that feeling it ever again when I'm 814 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:43,159 there, because maybe maybe the same fear would come back to me if it 815 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,159 was in the area. You know, I'm not sure how that would work, 816 01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:48,679 but it could be possible. I haven't so far. That's the only 817 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:55,840 experience and the only fear that I've felt from an encounter like that. But 818 01:04:56,199 --> 01:04:58,719 maybe, Yeah, I don't know. It'd be interesting if it does happen, 819 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,039 though, but it hasn't so well, you never know. Like I 820 01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:05,840 told you in that first conversation, if you've had an encounter with a dog 821 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:11,360 man in the past, that does predispose you to be in a position where 822 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,440 you're more likely to have another encounter with one than a person who's never had 823 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,079 an encounter to start with. It would appear. Now, I'm not gonna 824 01:05:17,159 --> 01:05:24,000 say that you're doomed to have another encounter if you've already had one encounter with 825 01:05:24,039 --> 01:05:27,000 a dog man, because yeah, that's not the case. There are plenty 826 01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:30,599 of eyewitnesses who apparently never do have a follow up a second encounter, but 827 01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:36,079 it does seem like if you have one encounter that does kind of open the 828 01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:41,639 door for others to possibly happen, it makes you a little more likely than 829 01:05:41,679 --> 01:05:45,400 most people to have them. So just something to keep in mind. This 830 01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:50,639 next one up is from Andres Carizales, and Andres wants to know when the 831 01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:56,199 dog man was walking on two feet, did it look natural or unnatural? 832 01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:03,679 I would say unnatural for the fact that it was so large, and to 833 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:08,000 me, whatever this thing could have been at the time, which I was 834 01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:12,960 unknown of what it was, it just didn't seem like, what the heck 835 01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:16,480 is this big on its hind legs like it did not seem natural to me 836 01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:23,519 at all. Yeah, I'm sure you were short circuiting trying to process everything. 837 01:06:23,599 --> 01:06:26,840 So you're doing good to know your own name when all this was going 838 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,519 on. Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, i'd say you were. This 839 01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:34,079 next one up is from d Truth. Hey, d D wants to know 840 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:40,599 did she mention the gender of the dog man? Yeah? I would have 841 01:06:40,639 --> 01:06:45,159 no idea. I just keep saying he I don't know why. Maybe that's 842 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,199 not the right way to describe it, but yeah, I honestly have no 843 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:55,320 idea If it's a he or she or them or are they? Well, 844 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,440 like I told you before, you did really well soaking up all the details 845 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,039 from this thing that you did. I mean, I'm sure you're doing good 846 01:07:02,039 --> 01:07:05,760 to know your own name. You're standing there, you're walking home. It's 847 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:10,360 like any other time you've walked home, no reason to think for a second 848 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,000 that anything out of the ordinary is going to happen. And the next thing 849 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,880 you know, you're being charged by a dog man. So for you to 850 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,119 notice all those details that you did, you really do deserve a lot of 851 01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:24,679 credit because most people would have just locked up and they wouldn't have noticed anything. 852 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:29,760 They just would have been doing good to maintain consciousness. Yeah, for 853 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:35,960 how quick the encounter occurred, I'm surprised I could even gather that many details 854 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:41,280 about it. And even after it being so many years, I do still 855 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,880 remember it pretty well, but there's some details I wish I could remember better. 856 01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:47,920 But again, like it happened so quickly, and it was dark when 857 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,920 it happened too, so it's hard to pick up as many details. But 858 01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:59,760 it's also something that I can never forget, and it's something that I've never 859 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,639 seen seen or never heard of or never knew existed prior, So there's certain 860 01:08:03,679 --> 01:08:10,000 details about it that will always stand out because of how different and rare it 861 01:08:10,199 --> 01:08:14,559 was, and just nothing that I've ever seen before. So it's in that 862 01:08:14,719 --> 01:08:20,680 sense it's easy to remember some details just because they're so obscure. Well, 863 01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:25,479 I'm sure all those details that you did notice, that you did see, 864 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,279 they're going to be burned into your mind, and Neil, like I said, 865 01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:30,680 you're never going to forget them. I don't know how you could. 866 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,359 No. Never. Yeah, maybe that's a good thing, maybe it's a 867 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:41,279 bad thing. But did you have any problems with nightmares? No? I 868 01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:44,239 don't. I can't remember ever dreaming about it, to be honest, and 869 01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:46,880 I have some pretty crazy dreams, so I don't remember dreaming about it, 870 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,199 But I wonder if I will now that it's been coming in my thoughts a 871 01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:57,439 lot more lately. Sometimes my waking life will influence some crazy dreams, so 872 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,439 maybe they're coming. Might if you do start to have dreams, I just 873 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,920 hope they're good ones and not bad ones, because you know, if they're 874 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:10,119 bad, then that opens up a whole other can of worms unfortunately that I 875 01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:12,520 hope you don't have to deal with. But yeah, if you ever do 876 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,800 have a problem with that, please do let me know. There's a lady 877 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,920 I know who apparently has a good way to handle that. Okay, cool, 878 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,800 I'll get to know. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, please keep that 879 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:27,840 in mind. I've got another one for you from Blood VIPA, and he 880 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,800 wants to know did your encounter happen in a year ending in either a seven, 881 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,880 four or one. Oh, that's an interesting question. I wonder what 882 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:42,199 the significance of that is. But I think it was two thousand and six 883 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,600 maybe, like uh, like I said, like, I think I was 884 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,319 around fifteen or sixteen. It was a long time ago, so it's a 885 01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:54,119 little bit hard to remember, but I think it was like two thousand and 886 01:09:54,159 --> 01:10:00,439 six, maybe two thousand and five somewhere around there. All Right, that 887 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,199 answers that, And yeah, that is obviously a loaded question. I'm not 888 01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:11,199 sure why he wanted to know that unless there's some significance in years that end 889 01:10:11,239 --> 01:10:14,079 in those digits. I'm sure there is some kind of a significance. But 890 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,239 yeah, you never did say what he was wanting to know that for. 891 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:23,760 But that's okay. I've got another question for you from dash Down, and 892 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,279 that question is when you look back at it, did it change you in 893 01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:34,359 any way? Might it have been sent to send you a message? I 894 01:10:34,399 --> 01:10:39,159 think, like, even with all the paranormal stuff I've experienced, I think 895 01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:45,640 all those experiences kind of change your thoughts on the world in life. It's 896 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,960 not like it impacted me heavily, but I mean it's been eighteen years and 897 01:10:48,039 --> 01:10:54,479 it's still something that is fresh in my mind now. So I'm not like 898 01:10:54,800 --> 01:11:00,439 terribly upset about it or like not being able to hand well ER's anything. 899 01:11:01,239 --> 01:11:06,439 But I think things happen for a reason. And maybe I don't know the 900 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:11,840 reason yet or now, and maybe one day I will. But yeah, 901 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,239 possibly I could have been there for a reason, or maybe it wanted me 902 01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:20,319 to see it. Yeah, I don't really know exactly, but it's interesting 903 01:11:20,359 --> 01:11:25,279 to think about. Yes, it is, and I'm pretty sure it did 904 01:11:25,359 --> 01:11:28,680 want you to see it. I mean, it seems like when these encounters 905 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,119 happen, these guys will go miles out of the way to force an encounter 906 01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:35,800 to happen, just for apparently nothing more than to get a response out of 907 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:41,399 the eyewitness unfortunately. But yeah, I'm sure that he wanted you to see 908 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:45,920 him and see him he did, so you got what it wanted. I'm 909 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,720 going to ask one more question from you, Carissa, and that is from 910 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:55,279 Michigan meat Eater, and he wants to know, did you notice anything odd 911 01:11:55,319 --> 01:12:01,560 about the tips of its ears? Not really? Like I'm I'm also like 912 01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:05,640 I do remember having pointy ears, but other than that, I can't really 913 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,880 remember too much about it. Like I think they were just furry. I 914 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:15,479 don't think like anything was different that I could pick up or notice about it. 915 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,560 And like I don't remember if it was missing a chunk out of its 916 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:23,239 ear or something like that. Like, I don't remember anything odd about it. 917 01:12:23,359 --> 01:12:28,680 I just remember seeing that it had pointed up ears, and that's about 918 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,359 all I can remember about that. Did you see enough detail in its ears? 919 01:12:32,399 --> 01:12:35,439 Probably not, but I'm going to ask you anyway, did you see 920 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,840 enough detail in its ears, Carissa to be able to compare its seers to 921 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:46,840 any particular breed of dog. Well, I had a German shepherd Akda, 922 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:54,520 and Akida's typically have pretty pointed ears, so it kind of reminded me of 923 01:12:54,560 --> 01:13:00,159 that because like an akida's ears are very pointed up. And yeah, like 924 01:13:00,399 --> 01:13:04,319 not, I wouldn't say it's exactly like that. But yeah, they're definitely 925 01:13:04,359 --> 01:13:11,840 like very pointy and hairy and black and dark and about like the same size 926 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,159 of like like for the size of its head, its ears kind of like 927 01:13:15,239 --> 01:13:21,199 made sense to be the size that they were. Well, yeah, that's 928 01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:25,880 all I can really remember about its ears. Well that's a good way to 929 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,600 describe them. So I'd say that's a good answer. Well, we're about 930 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,560 out of time, Carrisa, but before we go, do you have any 931 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,520 clothes in comments you'd like to put out there for us. I'd just like 932 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:42,159 to say thank you everybody listening to my story, and I hope I hear 933 01:13:42,279 --> 01:13:46,039 I would love to hear more stories of other people's experience, especially on Canada 934 01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:49,920 and Vancouver Island or anybody's in general. But what I'm really curious about is 935 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:55,199 if I'm going to hear more stories about the area that it happened to me, 936 01:13:55,359 --> 01:13:59,640 or in Vancouver Island in general, just because I think that's so interesting 937 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,279 and I would like to connect with people if they have stories like I do, 938 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,880 because it really blew me away to find out other people in the area 939 01:14:08,039 --> 01:14:11,359 had seen the same thing that I had, and I'm just like in this 940 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,880 rabbit hole and I'm so curious and I want to know everything, and i 941 01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:20,119 want to hear all the stories, and I'm excited to hear more about it. 942 01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:25,600 It's a twisting and deep rabbit hole. That's a given. So yeah, 943 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,760 be careful what you wish for. And like I said, you just 944 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,800 might hear from people who've had encounters with them there on the island. I 945 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,800 wouldn't be surprised in the least if you do at all. Hope I do. 946 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:40,199 I'd be really excited about that. Yeah, well, I think it 947 01:14:40,319 --> 01:14:43,359 just might be a matter of time. You never know. Time will tell. 948 01:14:44,199 --> 01:14:46,399 But having said that, thanks so much for coming on and sharing the 949 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,640 details of your experience with this number one Carissa, and also answering all these 950 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:56,119 questions from the listeners. I appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate you 951 01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:59,960 guys. And those were great questions. I wasn't sure if I'd have many 952 01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:03,520 questions, but they were good because it got me thinking more in detail about 953 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:08,000 my encounters. So those are all really good questions. Thank you, guys. 954 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,720 Like I said, they were really good questions, so give them credit, 955 01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:15,640 all right. Well, having said that, yeah, thanks again so 956 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,840 much for your time, Carissa, and have a great night. Thank you 957 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:26,119 you guys have a great night too. You're welcome. We'll see you well 958 01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:29,039 before we get out of here. Like I said at the start of the 959 01:15:29,079 --> 01:15:31,800 show, thanks so much for supporting these eyewitnesses. The way you do it 960 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,680 helps so much more than you're ever gonna know. I can't thank you enough 961 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:40,680 for that. But if you've had a dog man encounter and would like to 962 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,239 speak with me about it, whether in private or on the show, all 963 01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:47,479 you have to do is go to dogmanencounters dot com submit a report, and 964 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:53,000 if you do that then I'll be more than happy to contact you and schedule 965 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:57,560 a film conversation with you so we can find out how the encounter played out 966 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,199 and if you need help, I can give it to you. But having 967 01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:03,960 said that, thanks again so much for listening. Everyone. Have a great 968 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,800 weekend and an even better night.