WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:08.560 All right, and joining us now. Our guest has written a book, 2 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:15.519 Mao's America, A Survivor's Warning, and I am really anxious to talk to 3 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:22.160 her because she grew up in China. She was there during Mao's Cultural Revolution. 4 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:26.960 She eventually came to America. And I have seen this over and over 5 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:35.320 again. You had, Rodreyer said, he had his friend's parents who had 6 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:41.200 been in Stalinist, Russia were getting very upset. They said, this is 7 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.880 exactly the same stuff we saw in Russia. This is exactly the same stuff 8 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:49.640 she saw in China. And we need to understand where these people are taking 9 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.719 us, and we need to understand what their tactics are. So joining us 10 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:57.640 now is she Van Fleet. Her book is Mao's America, A Survivor's Warning. 11 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:00.280 Thank you so much for joining us, Thank you for inviting me. 12 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.840 And you came to prominence. I mean, you were just kind of living 13 00:01:03.879 --> 00:01:08.040 a quiet life here in America, and you came to prominence in Loudon, 14 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:11.400 Virginia because you were speaking out against some of the things that you saw in 15 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:15.799 school. He said, this is exactly what I saw as a child growing 16 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.079 up in China. This is the communist tactic. Tell us a little bit 17 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:25.239 about it. Yeah, of course that was something that I was not prepared 18 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.560 for. So I went to school board and thinking I'm just doing my duty 19 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:34.920 and have no idea that my video in viral. And at the same time, 20 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:42.599 I was shocked to find how few people know anything about communism and fewer 21 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:47.400 people know about the Culture Revolution, and say, that's why I say that 22 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.159 people have no idea what Walkie is. They thought it's something new, they 23 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:55.200 thought it's just the left, the wind, the praising. But for people 24 00:01:55.359 --> 00:02:00.319 who experienced Culture Revolution and who lived down to communism, you don't have to 25 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:05.680 experience the exactly what I experienced the Chinese Culture Revolution. If you live under 26 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:13.759 communism, it's we recognize it instantly. This is communism, That's what Andrea 27 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:15.039 was saying. He said, the people who have lived under it, whether 28 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:19.120 you know it was Russia or China, they can smell it a mile away 29 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:23.240 because you can't, yes, you can't not look the other direction. I 30 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:28.039 was surprised because we adopted our daughter from China. I was surprised when we 31 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:32.560 went there about fifteen years ago that to see all these pictures of maw everywhere. 32 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:38.080 Because I knew the hardships of people going through and how many people had 33 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:39.960 died the Cultural Revolution, all these other things. I was surprised to see 34 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:45.319 him still essentially revered. But we do that, don't we, in various 35 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:49.039 kinds. Yeah, and the marks, you know, the really the evil 36 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:53.680 genius that his idea, a toxic ideology, led to the deaths of more 37 00:02:53.719 --> 00:03:00.159 than a hundred million people. He was still has has been reviewed by this 38 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:07.840 left and by the professors and the university and the students there as well. 39 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:14.439 So, yeah, because this ideology has never been public trialed and denounced, 40 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:19.240 and that is the problem, and that's why your book is very important. 41 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:23.360 Tell us a little bit about what it was like growing up as a child 42 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:30.439 in the Cultural Revolution. Did you get sent out into the rural areas and 43 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:35.439 everything as they were doing. Yes. Yeah, it's a long history and 44 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:39.879 it's complicated, and it's I do my best to just make it short and 45 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:46.520 still, you know, makes sense. Okay. So I was in my 46 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:53.520 second semester of the first grade when culture Revolutions started in nineteen sixty six, 47 00:03:53.759 --> 00:04:00.400 So I had one semester of more or less normal education and then the and 48 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:05.199 I remember very little, but I do remember you know in the reading class, 49 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:11.759 we we we were were learning sentences that's just describing nature, kind of 50 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:16.480 peaceful, kind of memorable and a normal kind of thing. And then that 51 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:20.480 was it. That's the only thing I remembered. And then heading on to 52 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:26.120 the second semester, that's when the culture revolution started. And pretty much immediately 53 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:32.319 the school was closed because all the principles and teachers were ulstered by the students 54 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:40.079 because they were they become the target of the culture revolution, because Maw condemned 55 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:53.199 all all of them as counter revolution reactionary intellectual authority, meaning they were the 56 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:57.720 enemy of the state should be aulstered. So the students turned against the teachers 57 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:04.079 and uh and the school work post closed for me two years and for other 58 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:12.079 other places as far as long as four years. No school, total chaos, 59 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:15.759 and so we as little kids and nothing to do, so we went 60 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:21.160 to the streets every day. And then what we witness is the unfolding of 61 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:27.000 the cultural revolution, of the struggle, sessions, parade of those people being 62 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:34.199 denounced and the Red Guards debated each other and pretty soon and cancel culture definitely 63 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:42.879 smashing of our statues and uh taking down any inside sign boards of school of 64 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:50.000 stores that were traditional anything that is not communist or revolutionary, we're all uh 65 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:57.240 smashed and destroyed and pretty soon turned into violence. You know. I did 66 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:01.319 an interview not too long ago with an individual who wrote a book about a 67 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:06.639 Project Veritas whistleblowers experience in corporation and how they were pushing you know, this 68 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:10.600 critical race theory and things like that, and he was very upset about it. 69 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:13.600 He was black, and he was still upset about it. He didn't 70 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:15.319 like it, and so he started taking notes and then he became a whistleblower 71 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.000 for Project Veritas, and he wrote the book. And when I talk to 72 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:23.120 the guy who wrote the book with him and really for him, he was 73 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.399 saying, yeah, you know, all this stuff that's happened in critical race 74 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.319 theory and all the rest of this stuff, people want to call it Marxism, 75 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:30.279 it's not Marxism. It's like, well, it is Marxism. It 76 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.240 absolutely is in so many different ways. I couldn't believe it when he said 77 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:38.399 that. I didn't really you know, get into it with him, because 78 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:41.360 I really wanted to find out this guy's experiences. But you know, it 79 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:46.079 really is purely Marxism. Talk about the struggle sessions and people can understand. 80 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.600 If they understand some of the specifics of these things and what does the struggle 81 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.000 session look like, they'll start to see how it aligns with what we're seeing 82 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:55.480 here in the United States. Yes, yes, but I want to ask 83 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:59.040 to what you just said, too many people. I'm not talking about people 84 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.639 on the left, I'm talking about conservatives. Still, we don't have enough 85 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:10.079 people understand the nature of Fulkhism. It is pure cultural Marxist Marxism and as 86 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:15.120 pure Maoism. And that's why I call my my book Maus America. It 87 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:19.800 is Maoism with American characteristics. And that's why I don't like to use the 88 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:21.920 term woke. I mean, first of all, these people are not awake, 89 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.079 they're not conscious of what's going on. And the people who use that 90 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:30.120 term, that's another trick that they do. And they come up with their 91 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.560 own labels for themselves, and they're labeled for you, and we must not 92 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:38.879 use those labels because that's what propaganda too. The CCP used the same word, 93 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.120 did they really? Yeah, they did, they did. And in 94 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:47.240 Chinese it's called the jo wu, meaning awakening inside you, a consciousness. 95 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:54.439 And we have to raise our class consciousness and see everything in terms of class. 96 00:07:54.759 --> 00:08:00.399 And so any way anyone that somehow run against the party in our him 97 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:05.439 is casted as the enemy of the state or the black class, and that 98 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.040 you always want to do anything to remain in the red class, which is 99 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:16.240 the allies of the revolution. And constantly everyone has to raise their class warkness 100 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:20.959 or consciousness, no same terminology. People of course they don't know because they 101 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.279 never learned the history. Okay. I think it's interesting in this country too, 102 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.519 that they got everybody to agree with. Okay, we've got the Red 103 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:30.519 States and the Blue States, and it's like, no, the Blue States 104 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:35.720 approaching Marxism socialism, the Red States. Red has always been the color of 105 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.559 the communists, as you just pointed out, Yeah, exactly, And so 106 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.360 they for you that to muddy the water, to confuse people, and you 107 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.480 got people out there saying, yes, we're the Red States. Where I 108 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:54.080 know, I am so disgusted with communism, but for the longest time, 109 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.200 I don't want to wear anycent red because that just reminds me of communism, 110 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:03.120 of revolution, blood of violence. And then come here, okay, you 111 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:07.240 know, we ah, you know, the public hall is red. But 112 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:13.799 then I found out the Democrats did the switch because they don't want to associate 113 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:20.080 with communism, which is exactly what the what they are anyway. So now 114 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:26.480 I will I embrace red because now I'm conservative because stock with a color red. 115 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.039 We just have to make the best offer. I just try to avoid 116 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:33.919 that term and that red and woke as much as I can because and you 117 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:35.759 know, if you go back and you look at ANTIPI. I got a 118 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.039 friend who was in Germany and he says, you go back to the nineteen 119 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.759 thirties, they haven't even changed their flag. They had the same flag in 120 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.399 Germany in the nineteen thirties that they've got now. And so yeah, it 121 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.720 is amazing how they just import this stuff over and because Americans don't know their 122 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.759 history and they don't know what has happened in other countries, they just they 123 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.759 swallowed hook line and sinker. So tell us about the struggle sessions. Yes, 124 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.720 struggle session? What is struggle session? And actually I'm going in a 125 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:05.279 little deeper what that really means. A struggle session is a term and the 126 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:11.399 use not just doing the cultural evolution. It started as soon as the Communists 127 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:16.440 took over China in nineteen forty nine, and then one of the major campaigns 128 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:28.000 they launched is called land reform. Land reform is the what communists did to 129 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:33.080 fulfil their promise to the peasants who support their revolution that they're going to give 130 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:41.039 the free land to them. All right, thank you, that's okay, 131 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:46.200 yeah, and I got some free gift for you here. Okay, good 132 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:52.240 good, yeah, okay, So they here listen to it. How do 133 00:10:52.320 --> 00:11:00.519 you get all the peasants together and fight the landlord in order to get their 134 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:07.960 land? To raise their class consciousness, because the peasants did not know such 135 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:13.320 a thing as a class. That was an alien to them, so they 136 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:20.919 have to be taught and just like a dei training. So the communists trained 137 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.840 the peasants and told them, you are poor, not because you did not 138 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:31.080 work hard, not because you are not smart. Mm hm. And we're 139 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.600 seeing that now in terms of reparations, because do agree that. You know, 140 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.360 there they used and in Europe they used class, and that doesn't work 141 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.639 here in America because you know, nobody really saw themselves as being a different 142 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.679 class. But they did see themselves as being a different race, a different 143 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:48.679 skin color. Yeah, So that's what they focused on, and that's why 144 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.440 there's been so much focus on white privilege and all the rest of the stuff, 145 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.600 and why, you know, the reparations is really very much like the 146 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:58.159 promises of land reform. They even go back and say, well, you 147 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:01.120 know, after the slavery, you're supposed to get you know, an acre 148 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:05.159 and forty mules or something like that, or you know that they actually make 149 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.080 these finds of analogies. Yeah, yeah, same idea. But anyway to 150 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.799 raise your class to be woke is the condition to have a revolution. And 151 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:18.559 then the peasants finally they said, okay, we are poor. They were 152 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:26.360 taught we they are poor because the rich explored, explored it and oppressed them. 153 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:31.039 So now now everyone now there are two classes. There's a black class, 154 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.320 there's a red class and their enemies. And then the goal of the 155 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:41.639 red class to is to eradicate the black class. So that is the beginning 156 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:50.360 of the political identity. And that was the saying that the CCP used to 157 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:56.559 permanently divide American other Chinese people. Okay, going back to the so the 158 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:01.120 struggle station started in their land reforming in ninety forty nine to ninety fifty one, 159 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:07.919 the same formula. They absolutely the Yeah, the same tactic is the 160 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:16.080 landlord or the rich peasants will be struggled against like a public trial, and 161 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:22.720 the peasants would condemn them. And the peasants were coached to retell their suffering 162 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.399 and then blame all their suffering, all their problem to the landlord. And 163 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:35.639 then in end and then they will saying what do we do with the landlord 164 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:39.360 and our death to the landlord, and then dragged out and executed. And 165 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:45.840 that's how it started. And during the Culture Revolution, the enemy has shifted. 166 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:50.200 It's no longer the landlord and the rich peasants. They become those in 167 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:58.679 power, meaning those were the CCP bureaucrats or the CCP leadership. Why because 168 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.039 feel like he was no longer in control of his party and who wanted to 169 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:09.240 purge everyone. He can't purge everyone because that would looked like he was after 170 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:13.039 his own party. He had a better idea. He mobilized all the young 171 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:20.159 people from his government schools and his universities. Those were called the Red Guards. 172 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:26.080 So they took the mobilized the Red Guards, gave them power, pure 173 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:30.919 power, and dismantled the police and the law enforcement. And no one can 174 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:35.399 stop them. Anything they do was justified. Anything they do has no consequences. 175 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:41.200 So they went after those in power, all levels of the government, 176 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:46.639 from the village to the central government. So that is what the Red Guards 177 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:52.440 did. Struggle session is I witnessed the struggle session or the governor of my 178 00:14:52.600 --> 00:15:00.960 province. So because the governor was pretty tall, so they got two basketball 179 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:07.559 player two to hold him on the stage and so to make the governor look 180 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:11.039 small. And then the Red Guards have a love speaker and denounce him, 181 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:18.039 and so then people shout slogans. And during that particular struggle session, I 182 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:24.000 did not see violence, but he was beaten, he was struggled against she 183 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:28.559 He probably went to like a hundred of this kind of a struggle session. 184 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:35.159 And his wife was also part of that struggle sessions. And during one struggle 185 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:41.039 session they pulled the Red Guards pulled all her hair off, and eventually she 186 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:48.600 committed suicide. So that is a and there is a violent struggle session that 187 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.399 people were beaten to death right on the spot, and they were my older 188 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:58.200 which is just verbal abuse. That's what I looked at. But that's not 189 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:03.600 it. It's not just strong desision, is not something against denounced enemy. 190 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:11.080 Struggosis really really means struggle against yourself, and in the CCP's word is a 191 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:18.720 criticism and self criticism. As a young kid, I went through it. 192 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:23.440 It's a routine. It's every week there is a political study and then we 193 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:30.080 have to read some of the mouse quotations and then we carry out this self 194 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:37.840 criticism and self criticism. So each kid will say whatever the person, you 195 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:44.279 know, the kid did not do well enough according to mouse instruction. So 196 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.600 you denounce yourself. Wow, and we see that today. We see that 197 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:52.399 today that kids have to denounce themselves because of their you know, their gender 198 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:57.519 you know, uh, and and their normalcy or whatever that we would say, 199 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:02.960 or their skin color. That's exactly the same thing that see you see 200 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.519 that, Yeah, so you denounce yourself and then you denounce your classmates. 201 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.720 So we go around and round around you say, okay, I did not 202 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.519 do this right. You know, of course we did not say we have 203 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:19.880 privilege, you know, just say well, we're not up to mouths instruction 204 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.880 and we should do better, and then say so. And so that day 205 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.480 I saw you say this, and I saw your act like that, and 206 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:32.759 that's not right. So it's that is really the core. It's not those 207 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:38.319 kind of a public trial. It is at every level, every person is 208 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:45.759 involved in struggle session. So that's exactly what we're seeing now. E I, 209 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:49.880 you denounce your privilege if you're white, okay, and then and you 210 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:55.880 swear that you'll do better, right, and then you you denounce your coworker 211 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:02.039 who you heard saying this and that, And that's absolutely the same thing. 212 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.720 Oh yes, I remember the testimony of a young girl who was pressured into 213 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:10.920 gender mutilation of and surgery and things like that. And she said, you 214 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:14.799 know, I got into this group because and I forget what it was. 215 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.920 It was some pop group that she liked, or some game that she liked 216 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:19.880 or something like that, and so just a special interest group. But everybody 217 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:25.119 that was in it was into this type of struggle session things. She didn't 218 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:27.200 call it that, but she said, you know, they were all leftists, 219 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:32.279 and you know, and and I was just heterosexual, and I was 220 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.359 white, and I had to denounce myself to be a part of this group. 221 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.359 And so I started denouncing all that. It wasn't enough to just say, 222 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.039 okay, you do whatever you want. I had to hate myself for 223 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:45.119 that and I had to make these confessions to them. That is what they're 224 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:51.119 doing to all the kids. It's amazing how they have very insidiously and subtly 225 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:56.160 and undercover inserted all of these psychological tactics that were used by Mouth in America. 226 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:00.200 It's amazing, of course, because people have no idea, yeah, 227 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.160 because they don't know history, and people like me, it sees through right 228 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:07.720 away because it's the same, absolutely the same thing. So you can't be 229 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.759 just not a racist, right you have to be anti racist? Yes, 230 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:18.319 yes, yeah, so exactly the same idea. Yes. Tell us a 231 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:21.079 little bit about the canceled culture, of course, which is tied with that 232 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:22.880 as well, and the need for them to destroy statues. We just saw 233 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:29.480 this fetishized destruction of a Robberty Lee statue and you know, they took up, 234 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:33.000 you know, a very high quality video of them melting it down, 235 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:34.480 all the rest of the stuff. This is a very important thing for the 236 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:40.599 communists to take down statues and to erase the culture that's existing there. Yeah, 237 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:45.240 the goal is to erase past period. Cancel culture is really too. 238 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:52.279 In China, it's called a destruction of the four old old idea, old 239 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:59.640 culture, old habit, old custom, anything that is traditional, anything that 240 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:06.599 is a pre communist communist regime has to be erased, has to be destroyed. 241 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:12.319 And you start with something very symbolic, right, anything that is everyone 242 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:17.039 can see. And then what you do You go and destroy the statues. 243 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:22.480 And so in China we do not have many public statues as in the West. 244 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:30.000 Most of them were religious statues such as uh in the in the Buddhist 245 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.759 temple or in church. And that's what they went after they are destroyed or 246 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:41.599 the statues and uh. And that's not it. They changed their names of 247 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:47.559 everything that is not traditional, that is traditional, such as institution names, 248 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:56.720 store names, food brand sounds familiar. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're 249 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.759 deep under this. We're deep into this, aren't we. So the four 250 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:04.920 oles old ideas, old culture, old habit what was the fourth one? 251 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:15.279 And old customs old customs. Interesting now it's just the civilization of China. 252 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.240 And yeah, it all has to go. Why because if you want to 253 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:26.839 install Maoism as the supreme ideology or the religion of the land, you have 254 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.920 to remove everything before it. And that and and and the cancel culture went 255 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:37.039 to a next stage. Okay, they destroyed everything in the public okay, 256 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.400 And they said there were more they were hidden in people's homes and we have 257 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:47.599 to go after that. That's what they did. They readed people's homes and 258 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.839 took whatever they think is old, destroyed them, or confiscated them. This 259 00:21:53.119 --> 00:22:03.200 is the largest looking operation in history of mankind. Wow. Wow, of 260 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:07.519 course, you know we have the irs is going to be made five to 261 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:11.000 seven times bigger depending on which budget they go through. And that's what I'm 262 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:15.079 concerned about, is that they're going to go around confiscating not necessarily statues because 263 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.799 people don't know them, any statues or things like that their own, but 264 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:22.400 go around confiscating any physical property. Tell us a little bit about what they 265 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.279 did to the family, because that is a key part of this. You 266 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.039 know, in America, was there as part of the four oles? Would 267 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:33.480 that I don't know, would the family fall into one of these in terms 268 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:41.359 of a culture or custom or something like that. Yes, okay, I'm 269 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.880 sorry, Oh that's okay. Take your time, drink, drink something. 270 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.960 If you'd like to go ahead, go ahead, I'll cover here for you. 271 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.039 You said that again. You know, we look at things like critical 272 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:57.200 race theory and stuff like that. Again, we're talking about race rather than 273 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:04.599 class. That's the differents in communism in America versus China or Europe. But 274 00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:11.160 again old ideas, old cultures, old habits and old customs, and I 275 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:18.160 imagine family fits in there somewhere absolutely. So for family, you don't have 276 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:25.799 to guess. You just read communist manifesto. It laid out there are clearly 277 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:32.720 there's three things they want to abolish. One is private property, another is 278 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:38.160 religion, another is family. So that is laid out there, you know, 279 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:45.680 clear for everyone to see. They have to destroy religion because in order 280 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:55.839 to implement communism as the religion and be this is very very important. Communism 281 00:23:56.079 --> 00:24:04.279 is not and the community is a religion. It is and even though they 282 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:11.680 say that against religion, but it is a religion. It replaced religion. 283 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:17.480 So they have to destroy religion and uh, and they have to destroy family 284 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:25.160 because those are the foundations of any in society. So that started very early 285 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:30.039 on, especially in schools, and so it was very very clear to everyone, 286 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:37.799 not just to kids, but to parents as well. The kids belong 287 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:44.400 to the state, yes, and parents understand that. And so if you 288 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:48.759 have to choose between your parents and the state, you choose the state. 289 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:56.079 And there's no question about it. Many kids reported their parents during the Cultural 290 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:03.359 Revolution to the to their authority, and some of the parents were arrested and 291 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:08.480 some were executed. It was so clear in my mind, in every kid's 292 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:18.039 mind, the party was our parents, and the chairman Mauth was our parent. 293 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:23.440 And that is if you talk to any any people lived on the communism, 294 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:30.920 it is a common threat. They destroyed religion, they destroy family. 295 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:34.079 M M. Yeah. And of course, you know, those of us 296 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:38.559 who knew about that understood and saw that when Hillary Clinton said it takes a 297 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:42.119 village to raise a child, you know, he turned you destroy the family, 298 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:47.119 you put the children under the care of the government. We had MSNBC 299 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:52.720 running public service announcements a few years ago, Melissa Harris Perry I think was 300 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.799 their name. She got to get over this idea the children belonged to the 301 00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:59.720 parents, and at that point in time, they hadn't really found something that 302 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.640 they could use as a wedge. Now what they're doing is they're using this 303 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.039 transgender thing as a wedge, and that's where it's coming in. But it'll 304 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:08.599 be other things. You know, you'll be denounced to be the other things. 305 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.680 Yeah, there'll be other things. That's just the first thing that I'm 306 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.359 doing right now. Yeah, yeah, that was not on the horizon. 307 00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:15.640 And you know people are looking at this, Oh okay, fine, you 308 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:19.160 know the villages is there. They're going to help to do it, and 309 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:22.359 but you know what, where is the conflict there? And they and so 310 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.359 they came up with the conflict. First they sell you the idea that kids 311 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.400 belong to the state and to the society and to the village, and then 312 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:33.440 they find the issues of conflict to punish the parents with. But actually they 313 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:40.200 have been doing that before. Transgender transgender really just showcase that how they are 314 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:48.359 trying to cut the tize between parents and children and actively set children up against 315 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:55.200 the parents. But for decades they have been teaching the values of communism and 316 00:26:55.400 --> 00:27:03.319 Marxism and even though that's not what Americans know about, but they have been 317 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:11.880 developing the children with a new set ideologies and created this conflict between generations, 318 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:15.880 right and as a lot of family, especially in recent years, a lot 319 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:21.359 of families just broken up, just like the cultural revolution, because they don't 320 00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:26.440 agree with each other ideologically. And they have been doing that for a very 321 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.599 very long time. And they will find other issues, and they will find 322 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:37.759 any issues to advance their agenda. That means to take their children away from 323 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.240 the parents so they control them. That's right. Yeah, you know, 324 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:48.359 just as we saw that they used class in China and in Europe as a 325 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.359 dividing thing, and here they use skin color. Uh. Then I think 326 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.240 also in the same way, this dividing wage. I've seen this as you 327 00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:57.559 talked about. This has been going on for decades, of course, and 328 00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:03.480 uh one of the first cases that I saw this is up in Massachusetts, 329 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.200 and it was a father who didn't want his eight year old girl and a 330 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:14.039 sex education class that at the time was not into all of these shall we 331 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:17.640 say, highly deviant sexual practices that are going on right now. It was 332 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:19.079 just straight side. But she was eight years old and said, I don't 333 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:22.440 think she's mature enough for this, and he and they said, well she 334 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.839 has to do it. So he went to school to take her out. 335 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:30.559 They arrested in for trespassing and the judge said, when you drop your child 336 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.599 off at the school, you have surrendered them to the state, and we 337 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.319 will act in loco parentis in place of the parents. And so there's been 338 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.960 this wedge. You know that they've been making the wedge of the sexual wedge 339 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:47.519 they've been making it wider and wider with all the different diverse practices and everything. 340 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.839 But just as they began to use this wedge of sexuality against the parents, 341 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:56.240 and this really kind of does go back even to the mid twentieth century, 342 00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:59.119 you know, where you had the and then following up, you know, 343 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.920 in the nineteen fifties generation gap and then the sexual Revolution. All they've 344 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:07.240 been using the sex thing as as a wedge issue, especially with the parents, 345 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.680 and they've really weaponized it in a very visual way, especially in just 346 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.559 the last few years. But they'll find other things, as you point out, 347 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:18.119 and always do something. Yes, sex was their secret weapon, but 348 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:25.920 it's really anything tranditional, anything kind of a normal they're challenging right now, 349 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:32.279 right and for in the communist country that we were taught we were equal to 350 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.599 the parents. We can educate our parents. So many times we were taught 351 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:42.599 that we were better than our parents because we know better, we are more 352 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:49.799 updated in our learning, and so we should always watch out our parents and 353 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:56.519 make sure they are up to date with their learning and so. And that's 354 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:03.079 why in the communist countries, and they worship or or they gave power to 355 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.759 the youth and that's what we're doing now. The young people, they know 356 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:15.599 we led to believe that they know better or they know what's best for them, 357 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.400 and the same ideality, the same idea that the children are better off 358 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.720 knowing what's best for them than the parents. That's right. And I saw 359 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.440 that, you know, even though I was a child at the time, 360 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.319 you could see that there was something different that it happened, and it was 361 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.039 really flowing out of the schools they use, the schools even at the beginning 362 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.160 of all this. The idea that we've got in America, one of the 363 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:42.240 things that's made us very vulnerable is we love the idea that we're constantly reinventing 364 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:47.640 culture. Our culture is very fluid. I would imagine that in China it 365 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:52.240 was a lot more conservative and not as fluctuating as it has been in America 366 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:59.319 because of the embracing of media and entertainment and of the Baby boom, teenagers 367 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:00.640 and all the rest of this. If they were able to then have this 368 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:07.519 rapidly evolving culture that really kind of played into their hands. I think was 369 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:14.799 it more conservative in China when when Maw came in culture of family, Yeah, 370 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.079 it was very transitional. Yeah, but during the culture of everything turned 371 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:26.519 turned upside down in the cultural revolution. To us, the world was turned 372 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.599 upside down, just like today. We're told similar things. I think some 373 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.519 of them were not as extreme as what we see in America. But we 374 00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:38.359 were also told that there's no difference between men and women. Were the same. 375 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:45.359 We are whatever men can do, women can do better, the other 376 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.720 half of the sky, the other half of the fight, and todd and 377 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:56.039 so in. Yeah, so we dressed like a man, we talk like 378 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.440 men, we think like men, we act like men. So if you 379 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:05.039 go to China in the sixteen seventies, you see a sea of gray. 380 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:09.240 People look like and you can hardly distinguish the gender. And so we were 381 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:17.640 made into a genderless society. And so so Mao and always brag that he 382 00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:27.720 liberated women and from the oppression of the of the old society and of the 383 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:31.720 patriarchy. But they did not give them choice. So they're all liberated from 384 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.039 from the household, you know, uh shores and their children were sent to 385 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:43.160 daycare by the government. So they were forced to join their workforce. They 386 00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.519 become the work bee for the party, the work side by side with the 387 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:53.319 men, So they become men so it's it's not extreme ASTs say that women 388 00:32:53.920 --> 00:33:00.240 can be men and men can be women, but it's idea, yeah, 389 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.720 same idea. Yeah. Yeah, we just add in a kind of a 390 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:07.720 sexual deviance overtone to it. And it is that radical leveling, which is 391 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.279 another you know, everything in communism is leveled, right. Uh, you 392 00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.319 know, we take everybody down except for the people a top. Uh. 393 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.440 Everybody else owns nothing and they're happier and all that, aren't they. Yeah, 394 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.079 yeah, now that's what I say. Now we're taught, uh that 395 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:28.599 we're thought that we should own nothing and be happy in Chinese, Uh, 396 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:35.000 in the communists China in most time, especially that we had nothing and we 397 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:38.279 have to we have to be happy. If you show that you're not happy, 398 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:44.960 if you show that you're dissatisfied, you will end up in a struggle 399 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.000 session or in the pulogs. Yeah, that's why. That's that's what they're 400 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:52.160 working on here. That's exactly what. Yeah, if you if you are 401 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.319 not happy, you know, you better take you know, the brave New 402 00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:00.640 World approach. You know, you can self medicate with drugs or alcol or, 403 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:01.960 sex or whatever to just drop out of the world. But if you 404 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.799 pay attention and you get upset about it, you get the nineteen eighty four 405 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:10.639 treatment, and yeah, that's it's amazing how this is all coming around and 406 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:17.400 we're seeing exactly the same type of thing. So what do you You're You've 407 00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.800 written the book, You've gone around and talked to a lot of people and 408 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.280 giving trying to wake up Americans. Are they starting to see the light in 409 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.320 this? I do? I think when I started to talk, and I 410 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:36.719 remember one particular place and I went to talk and I talk about cultural evolution 411 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:43.159 Red Guard, and I just noticed there's this kind of blunt look from the 412 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.480 audience, and I realize, my god, they really don't know anything. 413 00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:50.639 I have to start from the very beginning, and I can't just say the 414 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.920 cultural revolution, What is cultural evolution? Why culture evolution? What is Red 415 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:59.159 Guard? How it comes into being? And there's just too much to explain 416 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.480 in that, you know, forty minutes speed. And in the process, 417 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.199 a lot of people ask me, you know, I met a lot of 418 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:07.639 people in the past two years and they said, you have a book. 419 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:14.039 I'm going to write a book. And it's because that I know that I 420 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:20.800 need to write this book to explain everything in more detail. How and why 421 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:27.679 and aware and all that, And I hope that it's going to be helpful 422 00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:32.239 for people to understand what the Chinese culture revolution is about and why it's so 423 00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:37.159 similar to the American culture evolution that is unfolding in front of us. Yeah, 424 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.920 you know, people talk about communists version. But the reason they mentioned 425 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:45.920 that is because these people A brought the exact same tactics and plans and you 426 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.800 know, pretended that this is just something that they thought of. And if 427 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:53.840 we don't understand the pattern and how this has been used and what it led 428 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:58.360 to, it's going to be really bad. Now. We there during the 429 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.800 period when there was a lot of starvation and things like that. No, 430 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:06.679 no, I was born in the yard and in that time, and it 431 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:12.079 started in nineteen fifty nine lasted three years, So no I, so you're 432 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.199 not, as your child, you're not really caught up in the great leap 433 00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:19.920 forward type of thing right now. I was too little for that. But 434 00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:25.679 everybody, you know, like my parents' generation, know about stories were still 435 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:31.440 alive that I know enough growing up, But I did not understand why. 436 00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:37.360 But I just understood that it was a time that everyone was going hungry and 437 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.400 those were lucky ones because they were in the city and they have ration, 438 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:46.760 they have ration of a certain amount of food, even though everybody was going 439 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.920 hungry. But in the countryside, that's where death took place. Up to 440 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:59.400 fifty million Chinese peasants died. Wow, it's very interesting how both Stalin and 441 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.480 now so many of the same tactics. As you're pointing out the struggle sessions 442 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.639 and everything. You know, Stalin had his purges, but then at the 443 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.599 beginning of all this, you know, Stalin had his helamidor and Ukraine goes 444 00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:14.440 to the place where it's the most fertile and starves of people to death. 445 00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.559 Mao does the same thing with this great leap forward. And it's very troubling 446 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:24.000 to see that now that we have our technocrat overlords who were saying, well, 447 00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.159 we're going to have to change the way you do food, and we're 448 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.119 going to you know, dismantle the food supply, We're going to dismantle energy, 449 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:34.519 We're going to do all this stuff. All of that stuff seems to 450 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.519 be that same tactic seems to be on the horizon. And of course that 451 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.880 really is kind of at the leading edge of the oppression, because first you 452 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.840 have to take everything away from everybody and do your great reset before you can 453 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.679 impose this new system. And I think they've got a timeline for this new 454 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.000 system of twenty thirty, so I think they're going to escalate this pretty quickly. 455 00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:55.639 What do you think Yes, I think that people absolutely need to understand 456 00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:04.519 this. Communism has nothing to do with communalism. Right. Communal we're just 457 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:10.639 sharing, we're happy together. We take away private property so there's no exploitation, 458 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:17.039 we're all happy together. Communism is all about one thing. Control, 459 00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:27.599 okay, control everything in people's lives. Control what you can have, Control 460 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:32.159 where you can live. And now we're told fifteen minutes the city is where 461 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:37.800 we should live. Control what you can you, where you can move during 462 00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.039 the mouths time. They control in such a way that nobody can really move 463 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:49.079 just to visit another place, because they give you coupon for food, and 464 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.119 that coupam only apply to where you live. So if you say I'm going 465 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:57.679 to take three months vacation travel around the world the country, you can't do 466 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.400 that. First off, you have no money, and said can you Your 467 00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.800 coupon could not apply to another city, so you kind of start where you 468 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:12.239 were, and they and how many children you can have? Right one before 469 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:16.159 they want to have as many as children as possible. They follow Stalin's policy 470 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:21.920 as many and then the change it only have one, you have more, 471 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.239 you're dragged to the hospital and forcefully your baby will forcefully abort it. And 472 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:32.519 then what you can say, there's no freedom of speech zero okay. And 473 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.920 and if you have to praise the party, you have to praise the correctly. 474 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:42.039 If you praise the party incorrectly, you're also in trouble. And mostly 475 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:49.880 mostly people pay attention what you can think. So that is communism in a 476 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:58.280 nutshell control. And so you so people think, do you know that that 477 00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.039 what you're taught was lie when you were you know, in the school? 478 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:06.880 How do I know? I have no idea because all the information was controlled. 479 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.519 I have no idea to compare to anything. Right, it's just one 480 00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:15.920 version of everything, one version of truths and UH and it's from the party 481 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:21.239 and UH and and the one source of information that's from the UH, the 482 00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:25.760 party media or from the school. Everything is controlled by And so when you 483 00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:31.440 have no other information, you can't think. You cannot think critically without access 484 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:36.159 to information. That's right, And that's why they're working so hard on censorship 485 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:40.199 now. It is a it is a very insidious program. And of course 486 00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.840 it's interesting when we talk about the one child policy because you know, what 487 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:51.599 what China has done is that they've aligned themselves with this globalist climate movement, 488 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:58.079 and the globalist climate movement is UH is a perfect fit, a perfect rationale 489 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.119 for them to institute UH communism. You know, one of the clips that 490 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:06.840 I've played several times is justin Trudeau. He was asked, what's your favorite 491 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.280 country in the world besides, of course Canada, and he says, China, 492 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:14.239 because I could tell everybody what to do to save the environment. That's 493 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:19.159 exactly what this is all about. They have a rationale to tell everybody what 494 00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.760 to do, and they're going to control everything in our lives on the basis 495 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.039 of that, including how many kids we have. And of course, the 496 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:32.880 whole climate and environmental movement was born out of depopulation and the idea that humans 497 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:37.599 are a virus and we've got to reduce humanity, which is exactly what Stalin 498 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:43.320 and mal wanted to do with their starvation programs. There's too many people here 499 00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.760 to control, so let's reduce the number of people here, and as I 500 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:52.599 reduced them and devastate the population in my country, I can show my authority 501 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:59.599 and establish myself as you know, the dread authority in this particular country. 502 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:06.519 It's amazing how they have followed through to the letter all of these same policies, 503 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.079 and it's all it's a plan that's just rolling out to us. And 504 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:14.280 also, you know what's happening in China now right they ran out of cheap 505 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:21.519 labor. They are in deep, deep trouble, and the population is so 506 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:29.360 aged, and they really the future is diary is And then you know what 507 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:35.519 the party said, you should have three and yeah, see that that is 508 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:44.639 worse than depopulation. In the very beginning, Starling encouraged first after the Second 509 00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:49.440 World War, Right, they have like award to mother who have nine children, 510 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:54.320 ten children amounted the same thing. So they control everything according to their 511 00:42:54.440 --> 00:43:00.079 needs. So now they ask people to have three. Well that's not that 512 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.960 easy. You just ask and people just have three. But they started with 513 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:08.679 party members. Party members, if you want promotion, you were required to 514 00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:15.719 have three children. Wow, well that's communism, control through of everything. 515 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.280 Just flip the switch and now we're going to do something completely different and So 516 00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.119 did you have any experience when you were when you were there in terms of 517 00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:28.239 Christian persecution, the underground church that is there, I know, that's uh. 518 00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:32.559 I had no idea what Christianity was. That's the truth, and so 519 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.599 no idea because religion removed out of our lives. The only thing that you 520 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:45.360 know in China, the largest religion is Buddhism has been Buddhism. Okay, 521 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:50.599 so there are ten posts and even though some of them were destroyed, but 522 00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:54.440 there are still some in the city and so but they turned into parks. 523 00:43:54.880 --> 00:44:01.599 So growing up going through this so called Buddhist parks, so I know there's 524 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:07.840 such a thing. And then we're told they're all superstitious and it's all backward 525 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:13.400 and primitive. So I just go there and look at the Buddha. I'm 526 00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.079 just thinking, that's just so stupid they make a statue like that. So 527 00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:22.039 religion was absent in our lives, and of course I know better. We 528 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:27.320 had a religion that's communism, and we have a god that's mouth, and 529 00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:32.000 we had a Bible that's the most read little book. Right, but only 530 00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:37.719 in the early eighties, and so I was working in the university in a 531 00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:45.320 college for training school teachers. And then the Americans started coming in and they 532 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:52.719 want to see churches, and so by then some of them started to open. 533 00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:57.840 And I was shocked to find there is a building that I passed through 534 00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:04.159 their countless times, a church, and so I took them there, the 535 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:09.039 American teachers, and there I met a young young guy and so he said 536 00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:15.519 they he was you know, I was twenty in my early twenties, and 537 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:22.039 he was too, so he said he was Christian and because his parents have 538 00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.840 passed it down to them, they just do it at home. I was 539 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:29.719 like, really, I have no clue. I really had no clue that 540 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:36.320 there were such things that in China there's among us, there's some underground Christians. 541 00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:38.880 So of course later you know, it opened up a little more, 542 00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:45.119 and in the nineties and early two thousand, but now you know it's crashing. 543 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:52.159 Then they're closing churches, and the churches that are not closed become the 544 00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.400 party churches. And if you go to some of the churches in the in 545 00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:01.079 the order, it's a mouth portrait and she portrait. Yes. And to 546 00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.400 the cross. I've talked about that many times, said, if you're going 547 00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:06.960 to put up a cross, You've got to put me on one side and 548 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.320 on the other side. And I said, did they realize that they've got 549 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:15.400 Jesus and the two thieves on either side? I know. But so if 550 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:19.440 you today, if you go to China, you can still go to church. 551 00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.239 There's still some open. Those are CCP church, Ccpeace Church. Yes, 552 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:28.519 the real church is underground. And later after I came out, I 553 00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:35.079 met more people who were part of that underground church. So there church they 554 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.960 called the Church of the Three Persons Self or something like that, don't they 555 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.360 isn't it something like that? This? Yeah, the Three Self was a 556 00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:46.239 policy that installed early on, and you know, basically they are going to 557 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:54.000 make church Chinese church, you know, and not even Chinese church a CCPs 558 00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:58.239 church. Yes. Yes, So if you go to today, if you 559 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:04.599 go to I went actually I checked the Association for Buddhism in China, Christianity, 560 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.280 Catholic whatever. If you go to their website, the landing page is 561 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:15.119 the support the Communist Party, the support socialism, the support forget it. 562 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:21.159 You know, they're not they're not really independent. And you find that, 563 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:22.760 you know, what they started doing, even the churches that were doing that, 564 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:28.559 you know, trying to balance grape to the Communist Party. They would 565 00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.719 then come in and tear them down anyway, you know. I mean, 566 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.519 it's just you know, it depends on what their women is. I remember 567 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.719 when we were there. We were there for a couple of weeks, and 568 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:42.440 then as we went south into Hong Kong and were on the train, I 569 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.159 saw it crosses for the first time. It's like, you know, I 570 00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:45.960 hadn't thought about that. I hadn't seen any churches or any crosses or anything 571 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:49.480 like that the whole time we were there in China. You know, it's 572 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:55.960 all underground, but it's pretty big underground from all reports, because that kind 573 00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:01.360 of persecution really grows the church, and it grows real strong church members who 574 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:07.280 who uh, they're they're not going to be coming for the ice cream social 575 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.599 that's the way they're there for, because they're really serious about it. Well 576 00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.519 I tell you this, so yes, yeah, that's another thing people should 577 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:22.960 should know. On the Communism, there's absolutely no freedom for religion or faith. 578 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.639 Yeah. Well, I think they're right to understand that the church is 579 00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:32.400 their enemy, because I think that is the most effective guerrilla organization to oppose 580 00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:37.840 this kind of authoritarianism. Christianity was the roots of our liberal society in the 581 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:42.239 West, and and it's going to be the way that they're going to uproot 582 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.639 the Communists from the ground up, I think in that country. But you 583 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.119 know, when you're talking about the fact that even they wanted to control what 584 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:53.480 you think that was when Rod Dryer was talking to people who had come from 585 00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.360 Russia and places like that, and in the tradition of Selsy Knits, and 586 00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:04.440 he actually named his book Live Not by Lies because that was an essay by 587 00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.519 Soldie Knits. And that's what they want you to do. They want you 588 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.880 to as you point out, they as a child, you're given one source 589 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:15.039 of information. That's just the way that it is, and so you just 590 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.559 go with that. But for the other people, and if you come up 591 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.400 with eventually, they're going to come to you and tell you that they want 592 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:27.119 you to repeat two plus two equals five. And if you don't believe it, 593 00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:31.119 yes, exactly. And so that's the thing. It's about breaking your 594 00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:36.039 will to eventually come in. And I think that's another aspect of what we 595 00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:38.639 see with this gender stuff. You know, you have to regardless of what 596 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:44.400 you actually see or know or whatever, you've got to deny that and go 597 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.639 with what they say is real and uh and so that's the key thing, 598 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:52.199 you know, and that was one thing that the souls in Nitsen saw that 599 00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:58.880 it's the common thing amongst all these different utalitarian societies is that ultimately you're going 600 00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.400 to have to uh bend your what you know is true is going to have 601 00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:07.159 to be bent to what they want you to say, just as a power 602 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.000 exercise. And we see that happening now in the United States. And that's 603 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:13.840 why it's so important for people to say, Nope, not going to go 604 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.480 there, and and understand where this all, all of this is coming from. 605 00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:21.760 All of these things, as you point out, Mao's America warning America 606 00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:25.239 of the fact that this is a plan, it is an agenda. They've 607 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:29.599 executed this plan and it's going to be so much worse for us because now 608 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:35.840 they have the leverage of technology. And also just this morning, I watched 609 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:43.320 a clip of the interview by this guy, George he used to be the 610 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:53.440 Clinton's advisor a Greek claim I can't remember right now, George whatever clapless stepan 611 00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:59.760 yes and an interview a congress member, and and he just keeps doing that 612 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:07.519 can you can you say that twenty twenty election, it's not stolen? And 613 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:09.239 then when here we're talking about something, he bring it back, he bring 614 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:13.559 it back, he bring it back. Can you say yes or no it 615 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.440 is stolen. That's not the same tactic. Struggle a woman. Can you 616 00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:23.760 say this man is in standing in front of you that he is a woman. 617 00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.000 You have to see it? Can you see it? See it? 618 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.239 And now, Sam, that's a struggle session, isn't it. Well, 619 00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:35.320 yeah, it is time for us to struggle against these people. And you 620 00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:37.800 have to people who need to understand. That's why your book is so important. 621 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:42.440 People need to understand the tactics. This is nothing new. There's nothing 622 00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.760 new under the sun. You know, Solomon was wise enough to say that. 623 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:47.360 And of course this kind of stuff has been going around forever, but 624 00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:54.920 it has been honed into a fine tactic of psychological manipulation by the communist And 625 00:51:54.960 --> 00:52:00.960 now what they're going to do worldwide is take that tactic that that you lay 626 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.320 out here, that Mao did, and they're going to wed it to modern 627 00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:08.000 technology to give them more leverage on people. I think, just realize they 628 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:15.559 have established the truths, right, the climate is changing and they're going to 629 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.000 destroy the earth. If we don't do anything otherwise, you're a denier, 630 00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:24.320 denied denier. And that is exactly what mau did. One truth and everyone 631 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.880 has to go by it. And if you question it, your enemy of 632 00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:31.760 the state. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we see that over and 633 00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:35.440 over again. It is so important for people to see this. Again. 634 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:39.639 The book is Mao's America A Survivor's Warning. The best place to get that 635 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.480 anywhere the books are sold or do you have a website that you'd like to 636 00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.800 that you saw that directly? No, I should have, I don't. 637 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:49.719 It gets you a little bit more money. So I always want to offer 638 00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.159 that to authors because I know that they make a little bit more money if 639 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:57.360 they sell it direct. But again, Amazon, anywhere that books are sold. 640 00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:02.239 Maos America a Survivor's Warned very important. Thank you so much for speaking 641 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:07.159 out about this and telling people this and speaking out and these you know, 642 00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.920 the beginning of the struggle sessions that are there. Thank you so much for 643 00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:16.840 a message that is so needed and a historical context and perspective that is so 644 00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:21.360 missing in America that people can find in your book. Thank you very much, 645 00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.159 Thank you, thank you she Van Fleet. Thank you very much. 646 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.440 We'll take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back. 647 00:53:27.519 --> 00:55:06.679 Stay with us. You're listening to The David Night Show.