1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,839 John MacArthur is here. Hello, welcome John Uh. You of course are 2 00:00:04,839 --> 00:00:09,000 from We met through NH Music Collective. We were at the Run Like Thieves 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,640 show in Conquered and tell us tell us a little bit about that. By 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,320 the way, we are going to play some of your music too, because 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,000 you are a musician in addition of course. But but tell us about the 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,079 NH Music Collective. Well, the n H Music Collective was actually started by 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:29,399 Brad Myrick a number of years ago. He's just a super accomplished guitarist from 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:35,359 the from Hillsborough, Okay, hillsbro Hopkinson Sorry Hopkinson, I can't even remember 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:42,119 Hopkinson answer. And it was sort of a side hustle business for him because 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,759 people kept asking can you help us find another talent as good as you for 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,640 to play some of the venues that it was playing, and so he grew 12 00:00:49,719 --> 00:00:54,320 that. But it's was pretty much the side hustle business for him, Okay, 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,159 And he was working out his strings and things. He was one of 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,560 the first people that I met when I'm moved up here. He was actually 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,319 he was introduced to me by Mikey g If you know Mikey g Oh, 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,239 I think I do. Yeah. When I came up here, I met 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,760 Mikey. I saw him at the common Man and Conquered and I told him 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,680 what I was up here doing, and he said, oh, you got 19 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:19,560 to meet Brad Myrik. So okay, I met Brad Myrik. I worked 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,480 with him for a little bit on some projects at a recording studio we had 21 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:27,359 in Guildford, and then my wife and I liked Brad so much of what 22 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:32,879 he was doing. We decided to invest in in a music collective and so 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,239 we joined the team and it's been growing from there. I want to hear 24 00:01:37,359 --> 00:01:41,120 more about all of all of that and what you do, but I also 25 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,799 want to play let's i'd like to give, because I want to talk to 26 00:01:45,799 --> 00:01:47,680 you about that. But I also want to talk to about your music because 27 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:53,200 you're a musician and one of these tracks that you sent is pretty new, 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,840 I think right for these both knew they're both new. Actually, I just 29 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,879 I've had in my mind this album that I want to do called Friends, 30 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:05,879 Family and Me, Yeah, and so songs that I wrote, songs that 31 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,479 my some friends wrote, yeah, some family members wrote. So we just 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:15,080 started putting it together and the first two tracks were the simplest one, so 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,840 I put those out. We're going back in the studio soon to finish up 34 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,840 the others, which are a little more complex. Excellent, excellent. So 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,800 let's play this and this is really pretty. Uh how do you say? 36 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,879 This is a terza tizzas tisa? Yeah, okay, what does that mean? 37 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,800 Is that just a name or does well? It's a it is a 38 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,120 name, it's a biblical name, but it also kind of translates to my 39 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,879 delight. Okay, and so when I think of this song, it helps 40 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,960 me think of my delight. And is it just you on the song? 41 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,039 It's just me on the song. Okay. Yeah, let's give this a 42 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,280 listen. It's short, but it's really pretty. I like this a lot, 43 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:54,639 and then we'll come back and talk more with John MacArthur. But check 44 00:02:54,680 --> 00:05:10,680 this out. O. I love that. That is really nice. That 45 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,720 is tirtsa? Am I saying it correctly? You are John MacArthur is here 46 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:16,439 with us live in studio. Do you do you fingerpick all of that or 47 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:19,959 yeah, it's all finger pick. I'm always really impressed by that when I 48 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:25,600 when I see people do that, I don't feel like I'm a bass player 49 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,240 and I and I play with it. I even play bass with a pick. 50 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,040 I don't because I just like to me, it's I can't imagine what 51 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:38,319 it must be like to use fingers to make all that happen. So I 52 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:41,639 love that. That is that is really remarkable. We have another one of 53 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:44,759 your songs too that we'll we'll play later in the segment, but very beautiful. 54 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:47,399 Where do you record? Well, actually recorded that up at the studio 55 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:53,240 Portland. Okay, a quick update on on my wife and me. We 56 00:05:53,319 --> 00:05:57,120 just made a major investment in the Studio Portland, so oh congratulations, thank 57 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,319 you. Yes, I are the majority owners of it now. Excellent started 58 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,759 as a collaboration between NH Music Collective and the Studio Portland and oh Reve and 59 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,040 I liked the like the studio, and actually our son is one of the 60 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,079 engineers there. He's he was the engineer on this song, oh outstanding, 61 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,560 and so so we decided to invest in it. And so it's been great 62 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,959 And that must be cool too, to be able to work with your son 63 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:23,720 creatively like that, that must be amazing. It is he's actually producing this 64 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,399 album and so it's so he's the engineer and the producer on this and doing 65 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:31,399 a lot of the arrangements so oh, very good, very good. Now, 66 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,680 so getting back to NH Music Collective, what is what are some of 67 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,360 the things that you do? You told us a little bit about the history 68 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:43,319 of it and how you got involved. What what does the collective do? 69 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,120 What are the goals of it in terms of I mean, obviously it involves 70 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,800 New Hampshire music and perhaps musicians from other areas as well. But but tell 71 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,240 us tell us about the kind of the mission statement of NH Music Collective. 72 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,920 Well, it's really been evolving. So the you know, we started this, 73 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:03,759 you know, shortly after COVID hit HUT a lot of things down right, 74 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:09,439 I mean, well, our investment in it and our goal initially was 75 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,720 to get musicians work, just get as much work as we possibly could for 76 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:17,560 musicians and at better pay, with better experiences for the musicians and for the 77 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:24,040 audiences. So as we think about venues that we want to work with, 78 00:07:24,079 --> 00:07:27,879 we want to work with venues that are investing in music, care about both 79 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:31,920 music and the musicians and the experience that it creates for the audience. And 80 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:39,600 so it's just been growing from that perspective a lot. We did fifteen hundred 81 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,680 events last year. Really wow, I had no idea. Yeah, that's 82 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,480 incredible, that's incredible. If for our team at three we did all right 83 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:53,519 from Maine down to Rhode Island. So we're not just New Hampshire, although 84 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:58,959 that's the name h Music, but most of our events are more of our 85 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,639 events are in New Hampshire. We're expanding into other areas as well. So 86 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:07,360 you did fifteen hundred events in a year. Yes, you don't look tired, 87 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:11,879 but you must be. I'm exhausted. I'm actually exhausted because we were 88 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:15,600 in Portland, Maine. Brad and I were in Portland, Maine and Riva. 89 00:08:15,959 --> 00:08:22,600 We're all in Portland, Maine on Thursday night for a live audience recording 90 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,079 of six singer songwriters, some of them from Manchester, by the way, 91 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,079 drove all the way to Portland to be part of this. And then last 92 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,039 night I was at delivery and Sunopy didn't get home till eleven thirty. After 93 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:41,960 that, we had a duo from the UK. They were top ten finalists 94 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,559 in Britain's Got Talent Wow six years ago, Jack in Temps. They're actually 95 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,000 staying with my wife and May. This weekend we put it. We got 96 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,720 four shows for them, so that was one of them last night. So 97 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:58,480 I'm exhausted. Yeah, yeah, but I'm having but I'm having a great 98 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:01,200 time. Yeah, no matter, yeah, yeah, there you go, 99 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:05,639 there you go perfect, That's perfect. Yeah. And how long? But 100 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,080 so you told us, but I forget what when did you first get involved 101 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,039 in an h music collective? How long has it been raven I invested in 102 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:16,639 June? June? I think twenty twenty. Okay, So, now did 103 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,919 you expect it to get to this point where you're doing so many shows and 104 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:24,399 where you're doing so much like what was your what was your expectation have you 105 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:31,799 because I'm guessing the way things have gone may have exceeded your expectations or maybe 106 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:33,759 not. I don't know. But we've got big We've got big dreams, 107 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:37,240 and we're starting to get to some of them. You know, we want 108 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:41,240 to elevate the I have to be careful, I always say, but we 109 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:45,200 want to we want to elevate the experience for the audience, right, And 110 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,600 so that means the musicians have to take it seriously, the venues have to 111 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:54,360 take it seriously and where and create some real quality experiences for the audience. 112 00:09:54,399 --> 00:10:01,240 So, yeah, one of my favorites that I started I started about I 113 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:07,039 guess two years a little over two years ago was at SAP House metiy And 114 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,159 Center Ocsipe, which is in the middle of nowhere, right, And it's 115 00:10:09,159 --> 00:10:13,879 a tiny little place, small, not much bigger than this studio, you 116 00:10:13,919 --> 00:10:20,279 know. And so we partnered up with them to create a meat tasting. 117 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,919 They make honeywines there and a three course meal, right, and a one 118 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:31,120 hour concert and the music and the food are paired. So we've had Indian 119 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,480 performers. We had ashkan as the Indian food. We had Sunny Hunt there, 120 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:37,200 which I'm sure you know. So we had Senny there, and we 121 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:43,159 had West African food. We've done Cuban, we've done Brazilian and all that, 122 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,159 so that that kind of an experience. We sell those shows out. 123 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,360 They're just they're fabulous, imagine. And then I don't know, like giving 124 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:54,440 some of the local performers an opportunity to be on some bigger stages. This 125 00:10:54,519 --> 00:11:00,600 partnership with Capital Center for the Arts in the Canton Lounge. Yes, but 126 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:07,759 then we had and and and now the challenge goal is after Taylor Hughes show, 127 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,879 I think I told you about, Yeah, Taylor, Taylor, somebody 128 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:15,080 had never done a ticket a concert before. Oh, he's amazing. We've 129 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,559 had him on the show. He's amazing. And he sold out the Canton 130 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:20,320 Lounge and he said, but I got twenty five people who want to buy 131 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,279 tickets, and so they said, okay, we'll flip you to the other 132 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,639 side. So we flipped it to the three hundred seat side. Wow, 133 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,519 and he sold that out, no kidding in June. Yeah, that was 134 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:35,200 amazing. That was phenomenal. So we're going to do some more shows with 135 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:41,399 him. We're working with some other theaters. Yeah, so anyway, we 136 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,639 want to So that's a long answer to your question, but we want to 137 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,279 elevate the opportunities for the for the local artists. We also want to create 138 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:52,840 touring opportunities for national artists and international artists. So we're starting to do that 139 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,279 with some of these concert venues that we're partnering with. Okay, and we're 140 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:03,320 just starting to get into more taking things for us where we're actually almost acting 141 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,519 as a promoter. Okay, okay, how many how many venues do you 142 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,159 currently have partnerships with? I mean, is it is it quite a few? 143 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,919 Or yeah, it's a lot. I can't even I haven't counted the 144 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:18,159 Brad has a bunch that he works with. I have a bunch that I 145 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:24,519 work with and then we collaborate on some so I have a spreadsheet. Yeah, 146 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:26,799 I'd have to consult that. I have lots of spreadsheet. Yeah. 147 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:31,720 Yeah, well no, that's good. That's good. Yeah. We were 148 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,799 very impressed because when when Jenny and I met you at the Canton Room, 149 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,519 right Canon Canton Lounge, can I can't Yeah, okay, but you you 150 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:46,120 came for Run Like Thieves. Yes, yes, And we'd never been there 151 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,600 before and walked in and it was like, wow, this is really nice. 152 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:54,399 This is really nice. It was it was great. I'll tell you 153 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,600 that was an interesting one for me because I've known Dan Fallon, who's the 154 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,080 lead singer for that, Yeah, for a while. We started booking him 155 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:07,279 a few I don't know, a year or two agoing like that, and 156 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,879 then he put together this band he used to have the Dan Fallon Band, 157 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:11,080 and then he had the Run then Run Like Thieves. I knew the bass 158 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,440 player, I didn't know the drummer, but now I know him. Yeah, 159 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,039 And and so we hadn't done too many bands there, and I said, 160 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,440 Dan, let's I like him? And said let's let's try this, 161 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,759 see if you can sell some tickets. Yeah. Ticket sales are fascinating for 162 00:13:24,879 --> 00:13:31,080 me. So so for Dan's show, I think we were a week out 163 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:37,279 and we sold thirty five tickets, yeah, and a whole seventy five seats 164 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:43,159 right, Yeah, And the day of the show, we were turning people 165 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,159 away. No, okay, that's so many last minute people. I wish 166 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,480 if I could do, if I could change one thing here, it would 167 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,519 be have people make a commitment early to get out and see live music and 168 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,679 bring a friend. Yep. Yeah, yeah, I have a new religions. 169 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,200 I it's like, don't go see music alone. Yeah. So anytime 170 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:07,519 you want to go back, Jed, you're game, yeah, absolutely. 171 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,039 Yeah. So obviously in that situation, it was too late to flip him 172 00:14:11,039 --> 00:14:13,480 to the the bigger room. Yeah. So that's the thing, right, 173 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,480 And then we had and then we had the same situation with Sennie. When 174 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:20,399 Senny played there, he was coming back, he's a big following, he 175 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,519 has a big following, and he was in the same situation. It was 176 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:28,519 thirty five or so, his ticket sold and luckily the person who handles the 177 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:31,120 box office was there that night and they let me bump it up to like 178 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,679 ninety two upstairs, but we couldn't flip it to the other side too latecause 179 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:37,039 you need more staff for that. Yeah. So anyway, it was a 180 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,600 great These are great experiences, but hey, message to your listeners please please 181 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,919 make a commitment early. Bring a friend. It matters to the venues so 182 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,600 they can plan better. It matters to the performers and and if you if 183 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:54,480 you, if you think you might not be able to come, something might 184 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:58,519 come up. Give the ticket away to a veteran. Yeah, that's a 185 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:03,039 great idea. Yeah, that's a great idea something. Yeah, yeah, 186 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:09,240 yeah, people probably don't don't think of that in terms of not waiting, 187 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,320 because in this social media world that we live in, you know, you've 188 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,279 got so many options of different things you can do, and it's it's probably 189 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:22,039 this hadn't occurred to me until until you, uh brought this up, this 190 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,720 subject up, But yeah, it's probably too easy for people to just kind 191 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,600 of wait till the last minute. And and they don't you know, of 192 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,960 course they don't know that that can cause a challenge for the artists and the 193 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:37,240 venue and whatnot if they don't If you don't know, it's no different than 194 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:41,679 if you're planning a party and you want to kind of have an idea of 195 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:43,159 how many people are coming, so you know how much food to get or 196 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,440 whatever, you know, and and if you don't know and you get all 197 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,799 these people showing up at the last minute you weren't expecting, it can cause 198 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:52,600 a problem. Yeah, I guess the great thing is if you turn someone 199 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:56,200 away at the door, Yeah, where'd we'll get out? You need to 200 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,480 start committing right, Yeah, there you go. Well, and it's a 201 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,639 good problem to have in the sense that you know, you're you're doing something 202 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:06,840 that there's high demand for. And and and this artist is obviously ascendant if 203 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,440 they're you know, they're building a follow and if people who want to see 204 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:15,440 them, so so that's uh, that's that's great. And now in terms 205 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,360 of the partnership with and I'm I'm familiar. I live in Manchester now, 206 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:21,960 but I grew up in Conquered so I'm very familiar with the Capital Center. 207 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,279 It's the Capital Center, right, It's capital Center for the artist. Because 208 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,759 the only reason I hesitate on that because when I was a kid it was 209 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,919 the Capital Theater and I don't remember when it changed, but at some point 210 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:37,080 when I was growing up, it changed from Capital Theater to Capital Center. 211 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Yeah. Well, and I don't know the full history. I get. 212 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:45,639 I think there's a book about the history of the smaller venue. Oh that's 213 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:51,159 available at the at the bookstore across at Gibson's. Oh yeah, I met, 214 00:16:51,399 --> 00:16:55,200 I met the guy who who's I think his mother or his grandmother used 215 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,440 to run them when it was a movie theater. Yes, I remember that. 216 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:03,120 I remember being really little and my dad taking me to that theater to 217 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,799 see Raiders of the Lost Ark. Okay, there you got there, you 218 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,920 go so so, and he would tell stories about sleeping upstairs at the theater. 219 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,440 Oh wow. Yeah. But yeah, so they acquired it. They 220 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:18,519 saved that building because they had the chub I think, you know, and 221 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:25,200 then they saved and renovated being H now it's being H stage. Yeah, 222 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,720 was Capital Theater, right, so the movie theater. Yeah, yeah, 223 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:33,759 right, it was a movie theater. Yeah, did a major renovation and 224 00:17:33,839 --> 00:17:37,599 it's turned into a great flex space, meaning you've got the lounge upstairs, 225 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:44,599 which is a little bit like Jimmy's almost in in in Portsmouth, you know, 226 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,240 with the lounge seating and stuff like that. And then and then you've 227 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,279 got the very flexible other side, which is three hundred seat which can collapse 228 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:56,680 down to a dance floor and hundred seats or whatever. And then you've got 229 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,960 the Chubb for really big, you know, much bigger. Yeah, it's 230 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,519 great, it's just great. They've been and we've been able to get some 231 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,559 opportunities for some of our local performers to open for acts on the big stage. 232 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:14,279 And yeah, so that's important to me. They're not they're now going 233 00:18:14,279 --> 00:18:21,119 to us for that opening acts, yeah, or to recommend opening acts. 234 00:18:21,279 --> 00:18:23,319 That's fun. Yeah cool, yeah. Yeah. Do you play out? 235 00:18:25,759 --> 00:18:29,440 Yeah, I occasionally play a farmer's market, or if we get a last 236 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,079 minute sub request and we and we've gone through four hundred and fifty, No, 237 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,400 we go through fifty. Sometimes artists can't find somebody else's pick the sub. 238 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,880 Sometimes I'll do it. Oh. I enjoy playing out, but I 239 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,480 I don't need to play out, and I don't really want to take work 240 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:51,119 away from other art honestly. Yeah, because a lot of our arts are 241 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,559 full time performers. Yes, how they make their living. Yeah yeah, 242 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:56,920 yeah. Yeah. When you do play out, do you just do you 243 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:02,359 do instrumentals or do you also single saying yeah, yeah, I'm a picker 244 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,000 and grannar. Yeah, I'm an old folky. Yeah, you know, 245 00:19:07,319 --> 00:19:11,440 I used to play a lot of barke folkky like that, but I like 246 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,440 I you know, I grew up on Simon and Garfuncle, and I grew 247 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:21,400 up on you know, more obscure uh, more obscure stuff. Yeah. 248 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,240 So, but I'll play occasionally songs that people know. I'm also a big 249 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:29,119 fan of David Wilcox songwriting. I don't know if you know him, but 250 00:19:29,559 --> 00:19:32,799 I love his little He's a baritone, which is nice for me because I'm 251 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:37,519 a baron. Yeah, so much music is for tenors, That's true. 252 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,680 Where are you from? Are you? You're not from here originally? Right, 253 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,240 I'm from all over. I was born in Miami Beach, grew up 254 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:51,519 in western Colorado, back to Florida, met my wife in Florida. Then 255 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:55,519 we moved to Minnesota where and then to Texas and then to Massachusetts and then 256 00:19:55,599 --> 00:19:56,559 up here. Oh yeah, I've been all over? Yeah, yeah, 257 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:02,039 what what brought it up up here? Ultimately? Well, New Hampshire specifically, 258 00:20:02,079 --> 00:20:06,839 or the northeast both Okay, the Northeast because my wife is a neuropsychologist 259 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:11,960 in addition to being a third of NH Music Collective and a major investor in 260 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,519 the studio. But she's a neuropsychologist, and she came up to work in 261 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:21,960 a head injury rehab facility in Boston and in the Boston area, And so 262 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:26,799 I was in Texas. I had left music at that point and I had 263 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:33,400 started working in it, and so so she got the job as a neuropsychologist. 264 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,160 I came up and worked an IT job up for a bank in Boston. 265 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,799 Yeah. We came to New Hampshire because our oldest son found his passion 266 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:49,279 in audio recording and he went to NESCA, New England School of Communications at 267 00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:55,440 Huston University, and as he was getting ready to graduate, it was like, 268 00:20:55,519 --> 00:21:00,119 okay, he's not you know, he needs a place to work, 269 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,960 and so we just we've stumbled on a property that had a studio on it, 270 00:21:06,519 --> 00:21:10,400 so we bought it and then I came up here to help him grow 271 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,920 the business. When you I'm curious about this, So you were when you 272 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,920 were still living in Texas. So you left you say you left music, 273 00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:21,279 Yeah, because I don't play country. I was doing really well in Minnesota, 274 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,039 and yeah, playing the college started get playing every every restaurant, every 275 00:21:26,079 --> 00:21:30,720 every everyone had music in Minnesota in the early eighties. Everywhere where in minutes 276 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:34,119 wasn't Minneapolis. I was in Minneapolis, but music. But I would play 277 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,680 up to Bamidgie, you know, I would play out, I play across 278 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:45,200 Wisconsin down to Ia, Iowa. So I was playing all around that area, 279 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,720 playing five, six nights a week. Yeah wow, Yeah, so 280 00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:51,519 you were full time. I was full time. Yeah. When when my 281 00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:53,440 wife and I met, I was I was full time music. So I 282 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,759 did that for while. She finished her PhD and she did her first post 283 00:21:56,759 --> 00:22:04,160 doc up in Minnesota, and then she got her first faculty position at University 284 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,839 of Texas. And I don't play country, and the money was lousy, 285 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,839 no kidding, the money was horrible. Yeah wow. So uh and with 286 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,559 and without playing country, there was really no There was really no opportunity at 287 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,000 that point. I mean there was a little bit in Austin, but not 288 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:21,119 a lot. It wasn't like it is today. Yeah, because I was 289 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,759 going to say today it's it's such a vibrant scene. For I had an 290 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:29,440 agent in Minnesota kind of like what well, the opposite side of the equation 291 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:33,720 from what anach music collected. But I had had a booking agency that was 292 00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:40,039 my pretty much my sole representation. Yeah. And then and then in uh 293 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,559 in Texas, I got an agent down there, but the gigs were just 294 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:48,240 horrible. Wow. Yeah, drive two hundred and fifty miles because you can 295 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:53,240 in Texas without leaving the county. Yeah you know, yeah, get paid 296 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,359 fifty bucks in no hotel and gets you know, it's like, no, 297 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:02,880 was it was it difficult for you to make that transition or or it wasn't 298 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,880 It was time? You know? Yeah, it was it was time for 299 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,000 me at that point. Yeah. So a lot of musicians get burnt out 300 00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:15,039 anyway and kind of need need a break. Yeah, well they do, 301 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,960 and I you know, I think, I mean, Texas wasn't going to 302 00:23:18,039 --> 00:23:21,279 be my home. Turned out it wasn't my wife some me either. She 303 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,319 was ready to go within six months. So so we we only stayed in 304 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,759 Texas for about eleven and a half months. Oh okay, and then she 305 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:34,920 got this job opportunity in Boston, so so I followed her up there, 306 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:38,480 up up to Boston. Oh excellent. So once that happened, did you 307 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:42,039 did you jump right back into playing? No? I didn't get that point. 308 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:47,039 I'd already started down the its path, and yeah, got a little 309 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:51,640 more addicted to money, you know, right, And I knew that. 310 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:57,359 I knew as a musician, I wasn't going to blow up. You know, 311 00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:02,200 I'm a songwriter. I like what I do. I liked some of 312 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,960 the songs I write. I don't like them all. I like what I 313 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,400 play, I don't like all that I play, so, you know, 314 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,079 and and I find it, found a sort of a more natural fit for 315 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,640 me in it. And so I did that for a lot of years. 316 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:21,759 And so what was it now? You talked about your son and buying the 317 00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:26,279 property with the studio and everything. When that was happening, did you kind 318 00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:30,839 of think like, did you know that that was really just the beginning of 319 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,640 you plunging all the way in like you have now. I had no idea, 320 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:37,000 really, I had no idea. No. I was I was working 321 00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:41,559 as an analyst for an IT consultancy, Gartner Group, and you know that 322 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:47,799 was They're the probably the largest IT consultancy. And you know, I had 323 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:51,279 clients all over the planet, and I was traveling some, you know, 324 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,480 before COVID, I was traveling some. But we all worked remotely, so 325 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,559 I could work from anywhere. Yeah, you know, yeah, so, 326 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:04,119 but just gradually over time it just got more and more of you know, 327 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,480 Brad and Reeve and I started growing in a music collective. The studio. 328 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,200 The studio was not growing as fast as we wanted it too. I'm really 329 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,920 proud of some of the recordings that came out of there. Sam did a 330 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,720 fabulous job. Brad produced some of the music there. We actually did Brad 331 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,799 and Nicolas out one of Brad and Nicola's albums, which Nicole Chipriani is his 332 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,039 duo partner, who's fantastic from Italy. He was over and we did that 333 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,519 album. We did Eric Lendbergh's album. We did if you remember Victim of 334 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:41,799 Circumstance, I think so. Yeah. So they've all broken up as a 335 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:47,039 band, but they're all playing in great bands now. So so Harrison's playing 336 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:56,400 in River Saying Wild and and Cam is playing in a rumboat Chili. Okay, 337 00:25:56,839 --> 00:26:02,400 sorry sorry Cam, if you're listening Rumboat Chick and and and Brad. 338 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,519 I don't know what Brad's doing right now. Brad Hartwick, he went off 339 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,039 to another band for a while. So anyway, yeah, but we did 340 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:11,440 that there ep and so really good stuff. Yeah, so we did He's 341 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,400 done. Sam's done all the cameos, the recordings if you know her, 342 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:25,319 and yes, actually yeah so anyway, but Portland is is a great place 343 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,880 now, so Sam moved. Sam came to us a year and a half 344 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,119 past a day. I want to go to Portland go always been a great 345 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,279 scene. Yeah, it's a great scene there. And there's more musical diversity 346 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:41,279 maybe yeah there, which is nice. Yeah. So yeah, so it's 347 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:47,480 just worked out really well. Is is the marketing of a recording studio in 348 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:52,720 this era? Is it? Is that a big challenge because there's so many 349 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:59,319 of them? Well not with you talking about it right there, Well, 350 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,119 you know, I think when you think about recording. So first of all, 351 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:10,599 this is the studio that we acquired is a commercial studio, meaning it 352 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,880 does voiceover, it does podcast, does a d R for for movies. 353 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:22,200 Oh wow, it also records albums. Yeah, it's a training program for 354 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:29,000 for aspiring producers recording engineers. So you've got a lot to offer. There's 355 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:33,359 a lot. There's a lot going on in that place. So and I've 356 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,079 only learned that recently since all the incoming calls now come to me. So 357 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:44,000 all of the phone. This is the oldest commercial studio in Maine and it's 358 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,119 had the same phone number since the beginning, and the building owner was getting 359 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,640 all the calls and I since we acquired, I switched the phones to come 360 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,759 to me, and it's just been remarkable. Yeah, that's great. So 361 00:27:55,839 --> 00:28:00,240 anyway, it's uh but yes, you're right, because the big competition for 362 00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:04,359 a lot of studios is not another studio, it's home recording. Yeah. 363 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,400 Yeah, we do the podcast at home. I'm going to record my ALM 364 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:11,799 at home. I'm gonna yeah, And there's nothing wrong with that, right, 365 00:28:12,279 --> 00:28:15,440 It's a little more difficult to do a full drum kit at home with 366 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:19,920 proper acoustics. Yeah, absolutely. But anyway, you know, so we 367 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,519 also want to be a support mechanism for home recorders too. We'll help them, 368 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,680 we'll train them. Yeah. Oh that's really cool. Yeah. And 369 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:33,319 our competition there is Berkeley, that's what seventy eighty thousand a year. Yeah. 370 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,279 I did a summer program there and yeah it's expensive. No, So 371 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,640 that's great, that's great, And your son must be very happy. He's 372 00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:45,000 very happy. He is very happy. He's working. You know, every 373 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:48,839 day is a different a different project, and your day's a different experience, 374 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,839 and he's super super technical, so that's good. He can handle all of 375 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,559 the surprises that come up. Yeah, yeah, because I would imagine in 376 00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:02,640 the beginning there must have particularly been a lot of surprises going into a situation 377 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:06,559 like that. Well, he actually wired that studio for the for the for 378 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,319 the other producer. They're the one who sort of took over that business from 379 00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:18,039 the prior operator. Oh so Sam has they call him soldering Sam. Yeah, 380 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:22,119 so he actually wired up that studio in the storage studio that he had 381 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:26,880 before that. So he and Ryan Ordway have a great relationship. Oh yes, 382 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,119 Oh what band was it I used to book? I was? I 383 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,279 worked as years ago? Jeez, this might have Oh my god, where 384 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,759 does the time go? I think this was twenty years ago? Years ago. 385 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:44,279 I was going to say Ryan Ordway wasn't a band that I used to 386 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,759 book? I did. I was a booking agent for a bunch of bands 387 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:52,039 and what the hell was the name of the band? I can't remember the 388 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:56,240 name of the band now, but Ran Ryan's amazing. I haven't talked to 389 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,759 him in so long, but wow, Yeah, but I used to see 390 00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:06,240 him like a few times a month because I was booking his band pretty heavy. 391 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:07,480 I can't remember what the name of the band was, you know, 392 00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:11,400 and I don't know, I've I don't I don't even know the name of 393 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,119 his band. But so he was operating the studio that was on the property 394 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:22,640 that that we acquired when Sam when when Sam was graduating from NESCA and we 395 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,440 were looking for a place. Actually, the first recording that Sam did after 396 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:34,559 we took over that space and installed a new console was in collaboration with Ryan 397 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:42,039 with you'll you'll probably you'll probably know this name, Alex Preston. Yes, 398 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:51,000 so Alex. So we actually recorded a couple of the songs Sam did of 399 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,759 of Alex when one of in one of the albums that he did after he 400 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,519 was third I think it was third place on American Idol or something like that. 401 00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:00,559 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, very cool, very cool. 402 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,559 Wow, that's awesome. I think what we should do because I want to 403 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:08,039 play We've got We've got a little bit more time to talk, but I 404 00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:12,079 also want to play this other song. I think it's willing, willing. 405 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:17,960 Anything we should know about this one. The only thing, the only story 406 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,039 on this one is sorry, the only story on that is that I had. 407 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,200 I have a fellow that I used to play with, Alan Gross, 408 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,319 down in Florida, and when I told him I was going to do this 409 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,720 album as I was going to include one of his songs, and I told 410 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:34,559 him I was going to put Tirtsa on it, he said, well, 411 00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:38,079 you got to do this other song that I've got that I heard you play 412 00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:41,720 once and I'd forgotten that I wrote it. He said, but I want 413 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,279 this on the album, and so I don't play it out because it's really 414 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:49,680 short, it's very simple and you need a real listening audience to play it. 415 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,400 So I need to say you got to put it on the album. 416 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,920 Set. So this is for Alan Gross, my former playing partner, that 417 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,359 I that I agree to put it on the album. All right, very 418 00:31:59,440 --> 00:33:13,839 nice, and this is called Willie. I love the way that sounds. 419 00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:17,000 Thanks. We were talking about Barke folks. So I used to listen to 420 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,519 a lot to John Renbourne. When I was in college. There was another 421 00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:24,680 guitar player, Peter Angermeyer, that I played with some and he would play 422 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,640 these most remarkable things in dad gad tuning, and I didn't know dad gad 423 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,039 tuning d A d G A d tuning on guitar. He was playing this 424 00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:36,319 song, It's like, how'd you do that? How'd you do that? 425 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,359 Asking him about it? So I sort of got addicted to that tuning. 426 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,079 Well. John Renbourne plays in that tuning a lot. Okay, he was 427 00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:46,720 with a group called Pentangle back in the sixth seasons. Okay, yeah, 428 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:52,519 Yeah. I just love the way the way the guitar sounds and when you 429 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:58,759 can when it sounds so good that you can you can hear the fingers moving 430 00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:01,000 on the frat board, you know what I mean. I love that because 431 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:07,079 that's not an easy thing to capture. Yeah, and and Sam, as 432 00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:12,239 I said, recorded that and what I love about the way But it's the 433 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,960 same thing with Brad and Nicole Nicola's album. Yeah, if you get a 434 00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:22,559 chance to listen to to that one, it was just the guitar sounds that 435 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:24,880 he's able to capture. He has a lot of microphones on the guitar. 436 00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,880 It's not one, it's not one microphone, He's got a lot of Yeah. 437 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:35,800 Yeah, because the next the frendboard must be miked too, right, 438 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,800 It's not just put mic in front of the body of the guitar. Yeah, 439 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,719 you know, I am not an engineer. I don't even play one 440 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,400 on TV. I leave it to the experts. I'm always super curious about 441 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,000 that. But yeah, yeah, no, but we got to get him 442 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,719 on the show. But but yeah, the sound of that is is just 443 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:59,199 just really really good. Did you say, do you have an album that 444 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,559 you're working on? Working on it? We've got, uh, Sam's been 445 00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:06,280 working on the arrangements. By the way, the rest of the album will 446 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,519 sound almost nothing like that, really, I have. I have two other 447 00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:10,800 songs I'm going to do and dad gad tuning. Both of those are in 448 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,639 dad Gaid. But then I'm going to do a song that my brother wrote 449 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:20,280 called Sugarfly Mama, which is nothing like Yeah, any of these, and 450 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,280 I've got a few others. Yeah, very cool. If you're just joining 451 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:29,199 us. We have John MacArthur here with us live in studio, and John 452 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:35,920 is from NH Music Collective. And now getting back to that a little bit. 453 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,719 We had a few minutes left. What Jenny is here as well? 454 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,800 By the way, Jenny, Jenny was busy typing away on something, but 455 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:52,320 hello, Jenny, I'm president, Yes, yes, present Dan account In 456 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,960 terms of NH Music Collective, how do you how does that work, Uh, 457 00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:00,519 bringing in artists to work with I mean, do do artists reach out 458 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:02,679 to you that want to work with the collective? Do you seek them out? 459 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,840 Is it both? Is it so? It's a little bit, it's 460 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:12,280 it's a lot of both. We probably get twenty inquiries a month wow of 461 00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:15,280 hey, how do A lot of times the conversation will start like, hey, 462 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,599 I'm looking to play more in New Hampshire. You seem to be booking 463 00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,320 all the all the venues that I want to play, so excuse me, 464 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:30,840 So you know, how can I become part of the collective? I started 465 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,960 running an open mic at Patrick's. Yeah, the sort of vet singer songwriters 466 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:45,360 bands are a little harder, Yeah you got yeah, hey allergies. Yeah 467 00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:47,440 no, I was gonna say, I know the pain it's lack of Oh 468 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,960 okay, well I think I met three nights in a row of four hours 469 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,480 of sleep, so yeah. But yeah, So I try to get out 470 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,440 as much as I can. I mean, I'm out listening to music four 471 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:04,079 or five nights a week if if I can. Some of that's just checking 472 00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:08,599 on our venues. But we're talent virus for venues. We're not agents for 473 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:14,360 artists and a lot of I think a lot of artists don't understand the difference. 474 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:20,360 So the venues hire us to book talent for them, right, I 475 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,800 tell people who who are looking for places to play, there are lots of 476 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,239 places to play. Yes, we book a lot of venues, but there 477 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,239 are lots of places to play. And I don't care how good you are, 478 00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:36,559 we would never be able to keep you sufficiently full to fill your whole 479 00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:38,719 calendar if you're a full time musician. I don't have enough venues, and 480 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,280 the venues want for some of the venues want a lot of variety. Like 481 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,719 I have several venues that they don't want to see the same person more than 482 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,199 once a quarter or once oh okay week, so two months. So like, 483 00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:54,599 you gotta have a lot of venues. If someone wants to work, 484 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,559 I would take a guy like Colin Hart or Rebecca Turmela and if you've talked 485 00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,400 to them. But yeah, actually, while we met Rebecca Turmel at the 486 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,639 Run Like Thieves show, Yes you did. Yeah, she's she's coming on 487 00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:08,920 on my birthday actually in October. She's oh cool, she's booked on the 488 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,480 show. Yeah, but she also she plays like six nights a week, 489 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,599 yeah, sometimes she does double headers. Colin Hart's the same way. I 490 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,119 mean, I couldn't possibly they Yeah, you do the math. Okay, 491 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:27,239 yes, we did fifteen hundred events, but we worked with over two hundred 492 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,920 musicians. Well that doesn't the math doesn't work there to be their sole agent. 493 00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:35,280 Yeah, yeah, so you know so, but we are adding, 494 00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:40,039 we're adding some venues, you know, selectively, carefully. Yeah, we're 495 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:43,840 not right for everybody. Yeah, you know, the people who want to 496 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:49,679 pay an artist hundred bucks for four hours, We're not the right ag for 497 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,880 them, right, you know, Yeah, if they if they, if 498 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,159 they want to really invest in music, and then then then we might be. 499 00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:00,199 And if want to invest in the marketing of their performances and create good 500 00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:05,760 experiences for so, then yeah we might be. Yeah. Do you ever 501 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,199 have anyone approach you? And and obviously I wouldn't watch you to name names 502 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,719 or anything, but does anyone ever approach you where you have to say, 503 00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:20,519 I'm sure delicately and carefully, but you're not ready. You're you're not ready 504 00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:22,440 for us to work with you. You've got to work on your your craft 505 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,519 a little more. Yeah, I'm very I'm actually very direct about that. 506 00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:30,159 Are you yeah. Yeah, and and and it doesn't mean that they can't 507 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:31,960 go out and get work. Like I said, there are lots of venues 508 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000 out there willing to pay something for performance, and some of them will pay 509 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,719 fairly. Well yeah, yeah, go out and hustle it, get them 510 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:44,880 yourself for the What we focus on is matching what the venues tell us they 511 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,760 want with the artists that we have in our roster. Yeah. And sometimes 512 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,760 that means I may hire somebody like I just during COVID and my wife was 513 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,920 down in Massachusetts still and I was up trying to help the studio business in 514 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,400 Guildford. I started taking lessons from David Hamburger online. David Hamburger is this 515 00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:08,400 great fingerstyle blues guitarist out of Austin, Texas. Okay, well I've now 516 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,360 hired him once. You know. I got him at one of the staff 517 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,320 House Meter concerts where we do the food pairing. Right, Oh okay, 518 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,079 yeah, David Hamburger, so you know what the what was the food pairing? 519 00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,880 I love it that he plays slide guitarist. We had sliders and I 520 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:28,800 love Hamburgers. That's fantastic though, That's awesome, it's great and he's willing 521 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,199 to roll with that. He doesn't feel like you're making fun of his name. 522 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,519 Yeah, that's good. He's he stayed with us, he was, 523 00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,920 he's a great guy. We will get him up here. Yeah again, 524 00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:44,920 Oh that's cool, that's very cool. Yeah. I mean I only ask 525 00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:47,639 because I know, you know, sometimes when you're when you're in that position, 526 00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:51,239 because I used some years ago, like I said, I did booking 527 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,199 agent work and I was a promoter. I would do local shows and you 528 00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:55,320 know, every once in a while i'd hear from somebody and I'd have to 529 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,480 say, you're you're not You're not ready for this. But but but you 530 00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,880 know, I mean, we have us. We have a coaching program. 531 00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:08,559 So if someone's serious about wanting to improve you, we will work with them. 532 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,800 And it's across the all aspects of their performance, style, their business. 533 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,360 You know, what they're doing from a business perspective, what they're doing 534 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:22,320 from a marketing perspective. We charge for it similarly to you would for a 535 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000 good guitar lesson. Sure, Sure, And so we'll sit down, we'll 536 00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:30,239 go over there, what their goals are, and we'll give them things to 537 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:36,199 work on and if they very often those are like one and done sessions. 538 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,679 We'll give them enough work for the next six months that they don't need one. 539 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:45,639 But some people will will come and you know, for some period of 540 00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:49,199 time, they may come have a session once a month or once a week. 541 00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:58,199 Dan Fallon was one because he really good performer, didn't understand certain aspects 542 00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:02,519 of the business. The session paid for itself ten times over because he learned 543 00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:07,239 how to file for his royalties. Okay, excellent. Yeah, yeah, 544 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,440 so we try to focus on the whole aspect of the three sixty of being 545 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,519 a musician in the do it yourself world. That's no, that's really cool. 546 00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:19,480 Yeah, I had no idea that you did that, and and that's 547 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,960 something that is so desperately needed, you know, because yeah, and actually 548 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:29,039 coincidentally, you know, we had the band Stepsist in here earlier to that, 549 00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:32,719 and we always end up in these conversations to about the music industry and 550 00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:36,760 yeah, knowledge it's power, you know, And and I know a lot 551 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,239 of you know, a lot of musicians don't want to have to learn some 552 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,599 of the things that you need to learn to survive as a musician. But 553 00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:46,440 but it's called the music business for a reason. And yeah, you know, 554 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,239 if you want to have a long career, you got to know, 555 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,519 you got to know this stuff. Yeah, and the places where we'll see 556 00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:58,760 people fall down sometimes is I mean, is you can be as for example, 557 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,360 a self taught guitar. I can tell you if you're a self taught 558 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,199 guitarist and you go take lessons from Brad Myrick for a year, you'll be 559 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,920 a better guitarist. You just will, because he is one of the best 560 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:14,480 guitarists around and and and he will teach you stuff, you know, if 561 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,599 he can't. If you haven't figured out how to get out of the first 562 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:22,119 position right, or how to do chord and substitutions or inversions or whatever, 563 00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:28,679 you know. And it's not like going to Berkeley, it's like very It's 564 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,599 about developing musicality, it's about developing knowledge. And so actually we have a 565 00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:37,480 number of he has a number of students just around uh music and guitar, 566 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:45,199 not about so he's doing that as well. Yeah. I tend to focus 567 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,760 a little bit more on live performance and on some of the business sides of 568 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,679 things. Yeah, now that's great. Oh wow, it's late. We 569 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,519 gotta we gotta begin to wrap up. But John, I'm so glad you 570 00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:59,360 came in. This has been a fascinating discussion. Thank you for the time, 571 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,280 absolutely, league, glad to do it. Where should people know to 572 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,840 keep up with everything that n H Music Collective is doing? Where should they 573 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,719 go online? Well? Facebook, we post every day all the shows that 574 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,679 we're doing at every venue. Right, so that's one place you can go. 575 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:21,679 Instagram, we have a website. We're going to improve it this year. 576 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,719 Okay, we have a website, but our full, full, full 577 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,159 calendars on the website, so you can look at that and see what we've 578 00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:30,639 got there. Okay, and yeah it's and just come see us, come 579 00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:34,440 to it, come hang out with us at a venue. Yeah, that's 580 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,519 the best thing. Absolutely, No, Jenny and I loved that that run 581 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,239 like the show. That was a lot of fun. And they're such a 582 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,360 great band too, they're so good. Well, come see Ian Gallipo and 583 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,280 Ian Archibald at PNAH Stage this next the first Sunday of July. Oh very 584 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,639 cool. Yes, okay, yes, So one of my quick discoveries is 585 00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:57,880 that when I came to New Hampshire that it's a bunch of micro climates. 586 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,960 Yeah right, yeah, it's so. Both Ian's are from down south and 587 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,519 we're doing the show and conquered, so we want to see everybody come out 588 00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,159 and support somebody who's not from Concord. There you go, there you go, 589 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,039 very good, very good, John, thank you so much. This 590 00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,760 has been wonderful. Jenny, do you want to plug your website before we 591 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,559 go? You got it. You got a lot of a lot of stuff 592 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:21,239 going on, a lot of stuff going on. You can go to Gencoffee 593 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,800 dot com j E N N C O F F E y dot com to 594 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,679 find out more and find out information on my new substack. Very good. 595 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,199 Yes, and congratulations on that. Thank you, absolutely absolutely all right. 596 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,960 We gotta go. If you miss any part of today's show, it'll be 597 00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:38,320 up in just a little bit at w m n hradio dot org and at 598 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:43,440 my website Matt Connorton dot com. Thank you Sepsis for coming in earlier. 599 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,079 And John MacArthur, thank you again, and uh, thank you again to 600 00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:51,840 Hope the wrapper for this great track Problems. We'll play a quick snippet of 601 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,119 it as we go and we'll talk to you a little bit later. Bye 602 00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:59,639 everybody, Bye, Problems Problem. We don't just stay to the money. 603 00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:05,039 Come open this album open, so get into the bag and another one. 604 00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:08,119 If you don't want problems, you don't you want to stay