What is up? Everybody? Welcome to this is a crazy, crazy day
because peak behind the well, it's not even a peak behind the curtain.
You guys know. We are starting to also cover the valley. And there
was all okay, a lot, a lot was odd. That was It
was a big night for vander Pump because it was the big reunion. Yeah.
M hmmm, it was the big reunion. It was the huge reunion,
which, as we said before, I texted you and I was like,
I like this better than even last year. And you know how upset.
I was so obsessed with vander Pump last year that, like many of
us, I went to Sports and Sandy's to get intel. I sat and
interviewed people. I went to Tom, Tom, Stephanie and I. This
year will be no different. We're going to go to the sandwich place.
Okay, do you do work for CNN quit In many ways, yes,
In most ways, you're like a journalist. You are, You're doing,
You're doing all the things. I'm an on the ground. Now, will
I get a peeple? Yeah? I am, like honestly, and sometimes
I'll go to places that are dangerous. I'll say like let me, let
me put myself in Syria. Right now, let me see what's going on
in Gaza. You know, I on the ground Syria and Gaza you mean
Beechwood Canyon and I think very similar in some ways. Yeah, if you
consider improv dangerous, all right, now, we took a turn there,
and that's a lot of layers that we just gave you because improv is a
reference to UCB, and UCB gave us Anne, which a lot of people
don't even know. She's an improv star and is the assistant from vander Pump.
And Anne is going to be a guest on our show, yes,
along with our podcast partner, but that's coming in just like two weeks.
So we have a lot so today's Vanderpump. But yes, to follow up
what Steph just said, we finally caved. We heard you, and we
like got obsessed with the valley and so that will be a separate show,
but we are going to bring you all our valley takes. Okay, now,
let me say this about the valley before we even get into vander Pump
real quick. A lot of people said beautiful people. Many people have said
that the valley sucks and that that's not true. How dare you accepted at
first. Now, when we first started watching, like the first ten minutes
I never watched, I did, oh, you're going to be mad at
me because I told you it sucked, but you also thought. You also
thought Love is Blind sucked, But other people that really saw the show thought
it sucked. And here's the thing. I mean, it's terrible, trashy
reality TV, but what it's not is really just a show about Jack's opening
a bar, which is why I had no I was like, I don't
care. It's going to be super slow. I don't care about restaurant shows
and open it has nothing. There's like almost nothing about his bar. Oh
totally. And let me push back a little. I love Love is Blind.
What I don't like is married at first sight. No, no,
no, I was no. What I what I was saying is that you
at first, because you'd only given it like half an episode. Oh you
mean way back way back, you were like, oh, oh Love is
Blind sucks this season, but you'd only watched half an episode. So what
I'm saying is, yes, you saw that you thought that this show sucked
too, but you'd only given it half an episode, and you tend to
change your mind it's absolutely true. I mean, I got I got in
there now. I don't know if I love the valley as much as you.
But we'll get to them. That's for the next show. Today,
I want to right now, in this hour, let's focus on vander Pump
because they gave us there all. Let's give them there all. Let's give
them the respect. That's so, let's just talk about the fact that uh
Arianna is done. She seems to be. She seems to be completely done.
She's checked out their dead eyes. Okay, she looks, she looks
she's giving us fish on a deck, you know, out of the water.
Like I don't even I'm not listening. I can't hear you. I'm
out of my body. I don't know what you guys are talking about.
Every once in a while, something will like cut through and she'll tear up
for a second. Maybe, but she's very, very difficult to affect.
Either she's taking a lot of xanax probably, or she's just so far she's
removed herself in her mind. And as a discussion that we were having off
air, is is if she leaves the show, which it seems like she
is, is her success going to continue discuss it's interesting. I mean I
think so because I think she just it's who knows what you were saying kind
of is the she have the pizette? Does she have the sparkle? Can
she? Is she really as talented as all these you know, endeavors,
Like is she really did she only get this because she got broken up with
And yeah, you could argue that, but as I was saying, she
has enough that she should be fine for like a really long time, like
even if she never worked again, and she will. She's killing it in
Chicago. People that have gone to see it say she's awesome as Roxy,
like one of the better Roxies. As far as Doune casting goes, she's
I mean the luve you know, hosting Love Island, that's not nothing.
She's got the sandwich shop, she's got all these deals. She's an influencer,
like she's she's all right. But we also said she's not great it
seems with money. Yeah. I hate saying that though, because that was
sandab All that put that in our heads. But then we see it later
because Katie makes mention that Katie's a little annoyed with her too, doesn't want
that out. She was confiding in her friend. But we'll get to that.
But so she is a little bit like she's just a little messa.
She's a little bit of a mess. She does seem to be a little
bit of a mess. And and also I don't know if the word is
physically, but you know, she does. She can't keep her space clean.
She seems she seems not to be adulting real hard. If I were
going to give her a Myers Briggs lettering, Now, most of you will
hate that I said that, but some of you will understand. Some of
you guys like young young and young heads. Carl, young heads, you're
out there right, wait, my Carl, young heads, that I would
give her, and not that anyone asks, but I would give her an
I n f p. Okay, look that up. You'll see that that
that fits her. Listen, I'm no therapist, but I am sometimes.
Okay, So sandwich shop is opening, We are going to that. That's
just like old business. I just write that down, guys, and then
they kind of go over like what's going on? They to go around.
By the way, she got the best seat. She and vander Pump herself
got the two hot seats. Arianna and vander Pump. M hm. They
got the big seats, the star seats where O Kyle and you know whoever
they fight for those seats. By the way, it's a big deal.
Sandy, I just have wearing he's wearing his green blazer. He she goes,
I can't look at him. He just looks. He looks like such
a clown to me. He is ridiculous. I mean, I wrote,
like Ann Taylor loop, it's not even anteo. There's like the green and
then he's wearing some sort of etsy he got, like a little necklace made
for himself maybe to something. Yeah, he's just appalling. It's like,
I guess he's trying to pretend like he's in on the joke about how ridiculous
he is. But is he. I don't know. He even refers to
himself as not that smart at one point, but and it's like, well,
yeah, that's that's a given you're not that smart, But it doesn't
feel like that's an excuse for just being an all around that person. Yeah,
totally. Although there was a moment, and I don't remember exactly when
it was, they were talking about something and it might have been Rachel that
they were talking about but Arianna. It looked like arian and Tom like locked
eyes for a second and it wasn't awful, Like there was a second where
they smile. Maybe it was editing, probably, but it just looked like
they kind of had like a little because if you're together for how long?
Nine years, nine ten years, it's hard to not have a little tiny
moments with someone you hate, right, Yeah, And I think that she
doesn't want she doesn't want that. She doesn't want she doesn't want to feel
like any kind of compassion for this guy, any kind of empathy. She
wants to freeze all of her feelings and just move on, which she wants
her to space work. She wants her space. And that comes up later
too of like what are you doing? How is this real? If you
live together? Which we'll get into that, right, So she's in Chicago.
It looks it cuts to when they're talking about how she's doing great,
cuts to Sandival. He's so jealous. You can see it. They're all
so jealous. But I'd never noticed how jealous he was. He's such a
piece of shit. I mean, I like, for a second even forgot
that he was his JINX moment last episode of him like, well, it's
good for me. Well, and they teased that they're going to show everybody
that m M. But you told me in confidence. But I'm going to
reveal it right now that Lisa vander Pump was on Watch What Happens and was
mad at Ariana for not watching the show. She was annoyed with her about
a couple things. There was something else here. I wrote it down.
Hold on, sorry, it's gonna She loves the guys, she loves always
sides. She hated Christ. I mean, as we said, she did
give her, she put her on a show, but she didn't like Christ
and she fired her. She was not great to Katie. And in fact,
on Watch What Happens, Andy Cohen is going through all these questions.
She's being very shady. I guess she has a new show with Gordon Ramsey
because she was on with Gordon and she was on fire. Gordon Ramsay's really
hot, by the way, And I'm not kidding and I'm not I'm not
backing down. Is I'm married. He's married. That that came up.
He's married with like six kids. Because Andy was like, you guys have
really good I think they know each other from like the uk and uh and
she but she was being so mean like every single thing she I mean.
He So she was asked, did you do feel bad that you fired James?
Because Katie, this is a few seasons ago, James called Katie fat.
Katie went to Lisa and said, is this the kind of person you
want? Like, I'm not. I'm giving you an ultimatum, I'm not
coming back and if James's coming back, which well, I was like,
go Katie, right. So she did fire James, and when asked if
she regretted it, she said, yes, she regretted firing James, like
she's so mean to the women. It's and she's she's shady the whole time
to wait about on the show. Yeah, he's back. She fired him
back, obviously, but she fired him from home. There were there was
time where he wasn't allowed to work there. He wasn't DJing and stuff,
couldn't be at her all that shit. And then you know, things change,
as they do with many of the cast members, which is fine.
He did grow and she made that point too, like he got sober and
he really worked on himself. Although we see that we see the old James
a few times. He's not. He's not like a totally different person.
So she she was saying a long time ago or she was just saying that
she now she regrets and everything. Another question was like, do you regret
kicking Kyle out of your house? Goodbye Kyle goodbye? Asked that. Yeah,
she got asked that, and he was like, she said, no,
I didn't regret it. Not only do I not regret it, like
I love it, like she's saying, she like rewatches it. Then she
was like, god, read, do you regret cutting Durite's face off?
When you remember when Durite did like a modeling campaign for her. She did
like this modeling campaign something for some like charity, I want to say,
and they just used her body and cut her face off and they're like love
it, you know, and she's like, well I didn't even know which
her face always changes, so you know, I mean, she and Andy's
like clapping and going crazy and he's like, I love this. Lisa.
She was crusless. Wow, I mean it was kind of great, but
it was also not toothless girl. That's right, But she doesn't to your
point all that to say, she is so hard on the women, including
Katie and Ariana always and guys always get a pass yep. It's so obvious
it makes me crazy. Okay, So Lala bought a house in Sherman,
Oak so she will be close to you, uh Lala, Yeah, and
she's pregnant. She's pregnant with the with the donor number one. But they
all allegedly chose at a donor at the sperm party, I mean and honestly,
like, how would we prove that? Of course, I can't even
such a weird question to me because it's like, oh, can we see
it? Can we see the sperm that ease? Can we see a letter?
I'm mean, I seriously did I'm sure she did not use And what
a dumb move if she did, Like James chose this one because he plays
pickleball, Well, that's the baby's daddy. It's got to be better than
Randall, nameless, faceless person that they'll can I see something a little catty?
Of course I don't usually do this, but they showed like little pictures
of her house, and they've showed like little you know, little we see
glimpses of people's houses on the show. Right, they all have the worst
taste. I mean, I know they have money to buy these houses,
but they are all these like weird modern homes that would just like bear just
no one, no one has taste. Where where are my interior designers at
I don't think that's Caddy at all. I mean I live in a Yeah,
it's not good. It wasn't good when she lived in the condo in
Westwood. I mean with Sheena and bra Like it's bad, and even Arian
and Tom not good. Well I don't. I do not like La La
at all, and I did earlier in the season. I just you know
what her personality is too. She's too harsh, even though she's soft right
now, you guys, she's in her soft phase. She's so harsh she
scares me. She's one of those people that she's so constantly clappy, yes,
yes, she just I would just back down immediately if she came,
you know. And she seems very like very temperamental, like one day something
could be like fine, and the next day that would be the worst thing
you've ever done to her, like somebody who's got the worst case of PMS.
Constantly yes yes, and she's hypocritical. She's constantly flip fl like occasionally
I'll go that makes sense. That's a good point. And she acts like
anything she says. And Ariana says this in the previews, like, Okay,
you talk louder, so I guess you're right. Yeah, it's just
because she talks loudly and claps at you. She has no she doesn't have
any like sense of self awareness and she acts like whatever she says. Well,
that's the final thing. And if she gives you grace, then oh
good for you finally earned it from La La. Yeah, she's a lot,
she's a lot, a lot. By the way, Sheena and Brock
also moved to Sherman Oaks, so we have that to look forward right too,
because what we're hearing is that we're hearing that this show is donezo,
but that these people will all try to be on the valley. Well,
I don't think it's donezo done so I think they're recasting. So they'll move
the married couples that have moved to the valley to the valley. That makes
sense, And then they're going to reboot vander Pump. There's no way it's
going to go away. They'll just get a new They'll just probably go back
to sir. Because we kind of lost the thread. You know, it's
supposed to be bartenders at a restaurant, no one. You know, we
moved away from that, so I think they need to start over. Yeah,
I guess will anybody care about that cast? Like, will anybody you
know? First of all, I don't do we care about so I guess
we do. I guess we'll find out. We'll find out. They'll maybe
somebody, maybe and maybe somebody. They'll have people that we already know,
just like they did with The Valley. All we had was Jack's, Brittany
and Kristen. That's all we needed in an entire new cast. And look
we care. Yeah, you're right, you're right. Oh, it's right,
you're right, you're right. Okay. So also Brock, I do
not like Brock. Can I say that? Okay? Yeah, I don't
like him, and I did not cry and feel bad for the part where
he's like, but I'm trying I'm trying to be a dad. I can't
do the accent. We can try that another shrimp, Bobby. I'm trying
to be a dad now anyway, New Zealand. But that's later. But
Brock is just like, I'm trying to be a better the best, be
accountable, the best version of myself. Mm hmmm. So so it says,
I mean, how old are his other kids? Now, They've got
to be old enough to like understand what's happening. I know he doesn't see.
Maybe it's not totally as fault. I don't know the exact situation,
but it's not great, and I wish maybe they cut it out of the
reunion. But I wish he'd said, I will I will die trying,
you know, to make sure that I have a relationship with my other kids.
Yeah, this is the other thing that bugs me, and you know,
it's probably my own shit, But I don't the the guys who give
up too easily. It's like, well, she the mom is not is
not letting me see the kids. She says, they don't want to they
don't want to see me. So there you go, right there. It
is so I'll move to a different hemisphere and I just have a different kid.
I'll have a different kid and I'll hopefully it'll go better with that one.
Well, meanwhile, your other ones are probably having to have a lot
of therapy. So I have a dad that just didn't care enough to fight
for them to be in their lives. Now. I know he's from New
Zealand, but I was going to say, if it was Australia, this
would work. If therapy there is just you get into a kangaroo pouch and
then they got they like swaddle you like a baby out. I even have
an adult like so if you're fifty years old, you get you have to
get into this a bigger kangaroo because got to be a bigger pouch. And
then they hop around and you feel better. And then and then people go
like, oh, I feel like Brock did a lot of pouchwork and he's
just seems it's like EMCR or whatever that like when you kind of tap yourself.
So but it's a kangaroo. Listen, guys, that's our show.
We got Brock has been doing so much potchwork of pouchwork work, and he's
just so like so much calmer and like kinder. I think you get the
pouchwork. You can see it, and he's and I'm glad, I'm glad
he's a spokesperson for that now, I really am. Yeah, it's like
he's a he's paying his child support, but also the pouchwork. So this
is really good. So they kind of are going over a bunch of things,
like it gets brought up again like why did orion and why do they
keep living together? And they bring up the whole lego painting that I guess
Sheena covered. None of that matters. It's still it doesn't make sense.
I will give them that it's stupid, but obviously it was a production.
Maybe Arianna's being nice to production. Maybe she's like, Okay, I won't
blow your cover that you made us live together. I mean, I do
think, I do think that there there are a lot of things going on
in that situation that are you can't just go like, well why did you
do what? Well, you guys live together, so you must have gotten
along, so why do we And she didn't want to pay for another place
when you know you wouldn't sell the house so you move. That's probably what
she was doing, was like, okay, you fucking it was War of
the roses. That's what I feel like, one hundred percent. That's what
I feel like was the situation. I think she will and rightfully so,
I think she was like, fuck, this is bullshit. Yeah, and
she got what she wanted. She like stood she really she really did a
good job with us. She is a masterclass on how to handle this kind
of thing. Rock should happen. Yes, Gray rocked the fuck out of
him. And then I liked that they brought up the Schwartz. They're like,
so, you know, you got down on one knee to say we
move in. And I liked that he admitted he was being shticky because he's
like, I don't know if I want to live with that guy, like
basically kind of breaking the fourth wall again, going again. I did it
for the show. Yeah, yeah, I thought that would be a good
moment. I thought you guys would all love me being being shticky. His
hair's brown again. Okay, somebody made this post. It might have been
on Reddit, could have been on our Facebook. About Tom Schwartz and just
what a horrible like arguably one of the worst people on the cast. He's
just an empty shell. I cannot take it. He is such a gaslighter
with all the women he flirts. He thinks, he's just so cute and
charming, And how could anybody be mad at me? I'm just schwartzy.
I'm just a guy. I'm just a crazy guy. I'm just silly.
Meanwhile, he leaves all these people so mad in his wake, do you
know what I mean? Yes, yes, So you're saying it's almost worse
because it's like Sandobal is all out there you just can see, or Jazz
someone like Jack's like he's just an asshole. Yeah, but Schwartz is a
little yeah. Yeah, it's just like, what, why is everybody so
mad? Joseph? Why are you so mad? And Joseph is like,
what, bro you freaking made all these promises you told me were like together,
and now you're acting like you're like embarrassed with me. Yeah, but
Joseph is coming on next episode. They tease Joseph and I was so annoyed
already, like she won't let it go. Like Katie tries to say,
hey, I just really I had a lot going on with the divorce with
my husband of you and you having sex with him, like I just didn't
want to deal with it. And Joseph like, doesn't let it go next
week apparently I know, But why, But why did freaking Tom Schwartz?
Why is he insisting on bringing her around? I don't know, it's so
he brought this to the show. I know, I know it's interested.
I know Joseph. I do love you, Joseph. I want to marry
you tomorrow, not tomorrow, in like ten years tomorrow. Yeah, ten
years from tomorrow. That's what I meant to say. I slipped up.
Why are you try to hold me on my words? She's like, words,
words, words, I'm a robot, I'm a camel. Okay,
let's get into So Rachel comes up. Where is Rachel? How come she
didn't come back? She's the only one that didn't come back, and Lisa's
mad. She comes in on this. She's like, it's ridiculous, Rachel
and with a podcast, it's just upset, Like she's rightfully pissed. Yeah,
except for the fact that she's like, well, I didn't listen to
it, darling, but I've heard terrible things I've heard. I've heard it's
just awful. Yeah. Case Sandoval's like, you listen to that, No,
but I've heard I know. And then every I, oh, this
is where I got really mad at Lala. I bet you had the same
moment. She's like, we should give credit to Rachel for even showing up
to Tom and Rachel, I think she said, for showing up at that
reunion. It's like Lala, shut up, like let arion, I mean,
you don't have to say it. Maybe that's true, I guess,
But don't they get paid more if they go to the reunion? Is that
really giving them credit? Isn't that part of their contract? I get paid
per episode. They have to go. If they need the money, they
go, right, So shut up, La La? I just wrote what
is wrong with her? Also though, and you probably you might have liked
this moment. But then Arianna praises herself for coming to the reunion, and
she's like, yeah, I stood up to my perpetrators. I stood up
to my perpetrators. She's really living in this, I mean she is,
but I did love it. I mean, she really she has to do
a lot for me to turn on her. I'm a fan. I'm like
kind of I'm kind of a stand fan, and she's she's kind of right.
I mean, and then do you, I mean how great that must
feel for her that Sandoval is now turning on Rachel. Yes, like that
that's what you wait for. That She's like, Rachel's a coward, Like
I don't know that, Raquel. I think he was calling her recau.
I don't think she has a soul and you just you know, you see
a flash of like, yeah, you have fucking dumb ass. Oh but
I will see. I just I thought this part was god awful. Like,
so now he's going after her for saying, like, god, she
said I groomed her, Like, fuck her, she's she's she's you know,
she's guilty. I mean, I'm sorry, but I mean, yeah,
I don't know that that he groomed her, you know what I'm talking
about. But then there's the moment way than there. Then they show La
Lah calling him a groomer, like he's just trying he's trying to change history.
I think that he is incredibly manipulative and out for himself and now he's
gonna use his rage and she's not there to defend herself. And I don't
buy it. I don't feel it. It's not he's such a bad actor,
as we've said so many times, like he's really bad at acting.
You're just terrible. And so I don't even believe he feels this way about
Rachel. And it would so the back and forth with love, yes you
are, it doesn't mean I'm not a perpetry Yes you are, don't No,
I'm not and I just was like, who are the heroes here?
These two idiots, Like they sound like five year olds. I just think
that the whole idea of saying that Rachel Rachel Raqueale is ridiculous, shady,
she's terrible. And then when and then when Lala goes, yeah, I
mean yeah, I know, I said that you were a groomer, and
they just showed me saying it on tape. But what it is is I
tend to project. Okay, does she know what projecting means? Do these
people just throw out all of these terms, because if she's projecting, that
means that she's a groomer, So she's accusing someone else of being a groomer.
Well, I think she's trying to say the Randal thing. She was
groomed by Randall, who, by the way, she was not groomed by
Randall. She knew he was a married man, and she flaunted that he
was a married She put that up. Oh my guy bought me a range
Rober. All I had to do was give him blowjob. That was an
entire episode. She knew he was married, she flaunted. Someone wrote this
on Whispering I believe about how much she flaunted being the mistress. Now she
acts like they're such good friends. Amber, you know, everybody's oh my
god, Randall's just and Randall is a bad guy. There's no heroes in
any of that, except for maybe the ex wife who got fucked over.
Right, except that Lala has to tell us, I don't know, I
guess for me, like I tend to just lean towards the chick, like
I'm more protective of like girls are you? Oh, you're such a girl's
girl, Lala. It's just ridiculous. And then Tom to add to all
that, saying like, oh, yeah, she wasn't so impressionable when she
took her clothes off and jumped in my pool. It's like, can you
give Arianna a break? Does she actually need that imagery? A piece of
shit, you little leprechaun. Piece of shit is like green Chico's pantsuit.
Get the fuck. I'm sorry, I'm cursing a lot. Get the heck,
Get the heck out of here, get the who's a ma booz it
away? Okay, So Lala I just isolates, Yeah, this we just
talked the groom, so Andy. So this is the part where Andy tells
Sandoval that that basically Andy is like, so, sand of aal, you
told Lisa that you were having suicidal thoughts and he's like, yeah, like
I don't know. I'm not like I was having trouble back then and like
I'm not the smartest dude, and like that's really hard because trying to make
a campaign for people to feel bad for him, there's so much Oh my
god, I'm getting my heart's I need to take a blood pressure medication one.
Okay, go ahead, were so, let me let me show you
what it sounds. I just goalpit down. It becomes what do you call
that thing where it like sound people like to hear weird sounds? Oh as
r Yeah, okay, that's for a different show. That'll be a four
D a F show, which we're going to do a whole a whole hour
of that. But before we get to the mental health thing, they also
start talking about the reverse. This is where comes out the suing. It
comes up. They're like, okay, so Rachel's suing you guys for for
revenge, porn and everyone. And that's when Tom questions about the soul and
stuff, because like all that gets discussed and he's like trying and he's like,
who could you bring. I mean, you could come to me,
but like how would you bring don't bring Arion into that, Like, oh,
you don't need to save her. You don't get to break her and
then save her. That's not how this works, right right, So I
was just really annoyed by that. And then and then James James keeps getting
like hyped up. Yes he brought her in. Yeah, and they're like,
you brought rock hell in and he's like sorry, so yeah, yeah,
yeah, oh that was me. My bad, My bad. You
guys play a song? Do you want me to do some DJing? Do
you want me to change the subject? It's dj James kenner Gy changed Kennedy
to Kenny because he's really writing like, Honey, Barbie is so last year.
We really, I mean I loved it too, but like I get
it, you're in but they this is it's not like it was filmed right
after last summer, right right? Then we're done with Keenergy, Like even
Ryan Gosling has moved. There's a whole different movie that came out since right,
he's done a whole promo thing for ball Guy, Like we're done,
okay, right, So yeah, the thing of Sandoval making himself such a
victim and being so like weirdly nonchalant about saying is like, yo, I
did Lisa, I did have suicidal thoughts Lisa. Right. But then when
they ask Ariana how she felt about it, and Arianna is just not dealing
with She's just like, listen, yeah, well I didn't go against him.
Yeah you know, you know he liked her, right, and I
didn't want to talk about it because it's something that he weaponized against me.
And then Sandoval was like, wha, how did you weaponize it? How
did I weaponize it? I mean thank god that Shea was like, bro,
you fucking talked about it publicly, Tom, We've talked about this,
and then they show the clip and he doesn't understand. He is so I
really believe he is so dumb. He's a sociopath. Also because on top
of him saying what, not only did he double down, he said,
oh my god, but I think, if I'm honest, like I think
Arianna used it as manipulation, because you know, when you're trying to break
up with somebody. He flat out said that, and even then Ariana stayed
strong and was like, listen, I'm not he weaponized my mental health.
But I'm not. I'm just I'm not no comment. I thought Lalla was
the voice of reason for one moment, and I don't remember eving what she
said because then she just like immediately went back on it. But like he's
such oh what she said? What Laala said was I can't comment either because
what I think he's using it is manipulation. I don't really totally believe him,
But what if I'm wrong and then he hurts himself And I've said that,
so I can't touch it, right, which is exactly but Tom touched.
He had no problem bringing Ariana down with it. It made me.
And the difference is, which they all point out that she said she whether
she was being manipulative or not, she was talking to him. Arian I
was talking to Tom privately and he talked about it publicly. And that's the
difference. And it's a huge difference because we're talking about like actual mental health
issues. Yeah, and she's suffered from and been very open from season one
about her dark depression and how she struggles all the time. She has never
hid that and that she's never talked about it when before it was kind of
into like everybody was everything it was way before that, like when people weren't
really even talking about it, so like, how dare he? And I
liked that all the girls were coming for him in this moment, but where
was that all season? How did you guys forget? Well exactly that Well,
that is kind of the problem, and I think that I think that
Arianna is trying to tell us that that that's kind of the problem. It's
like, yes, you guys are all trying to make a TV show and
I'm trying to live my life exactly. And then they also came for him,
saying like he compared himself to George Floyd, remember that, And for
some reason, Oj Simpson, what he was trying to say is that in
the news cycle, why is this such a big thing in the news cycle?
But just shut the fuck up, dude, I think yeah, And
I did understand when he was saying, He's like, I couldn't believe that
this was such a big story, like as and it doesn't compare to actual
news stories, like why is this news? And then Lala was like,
yeah, yeah, okay, I could see that. I could really see
that with their crazy curled nails just clapping, I can see you even when
she's like trying to be soft. Okay, I can see that those nails
so she got fake nails to match her dress and they were just way too
long. That was ridiculous. She's just there's so much. Okay. There
was one moment You're not gonna like this next where Brock is talking about those
news stories, and I feel like we all felt Brock a little bit when
he was like, well, I'm not paying the dollar for the New York
Times. He's like, I just saw the clickbait. You know, I
saw the headlines, but I'm not paying the dollar for that. I'm with
him on that. Yeah, I don't pay the dollar. I guess so
so but Lady says, okay, so Lala. This is a part where
Lala says she's pregnant, pregnant with the donor everybody choose, and then they
ask her about her custody agreement and she's like, well, I can't really
talk about that. It's not really worked out yet. And Lala, I
have Lala, She's like something, what did I write this down? It
says she gets upset when we find out that she's friends with Randall's ex Oh
Amber, Yeah, that she's she is friends with Randall's x right, and
she acts like they were so close when, like I said, on whispering,
they were reminding us or on something that she was flaunting. She was
being a total cus to the x Y. Do you think that that lady
enjoyed that she was still married to Randall? Like Laala acts like yeah,
I'm just a girl's girl. Yes. I was sitting there with my mouth
hanging open, like what how do these people rewrite it? So she does
flirt with a lot, which comes into the next segment, which I really
liked. By the way, I love what Katie said earlier to Tom calmly
to Sandival about intent versus impact. So you know, I like that line.
I looked. I thought that was really interesting. Okay, yeah,
So then they go over to Summer Moon. Who by the way, we're
going into Sheena and Brock. Summer Moon is very cute. Let's say something
very nice about China. She made a very cute baby. M hm.
Wouldn't that be weird if I didn't have that take, which soon Brock will
abandon. But go on, right, who's next? Who's younger? I
like that they talk about the postpartum OCD. I think that's very real,
and I like that she's been honest about that. I believe her, and
I like that they brought up that one of the obsessions and anxiety was like,
well, if Sandoval can do this, then Brock can do this,
And so they brought up there like was it why was it La La specifically
though, and She's like, well, yeah, I do think sometimes they
flirt, and then as Lalla saying I would never do that, she's still
she does flirt with him. She flirts with Brock in the middle. I
like, it'd be like Stephanie, I would never have sex with John.
I mean we're in love, Yes, we're we s actually attracted to each
other. Yes, yeah, but that's just like how I am. I'm
just like, I'm just a really like sexual person. So and Brock is
just a really hot guy, so of course I'm going to be. Am
I attracted? Yeah? Yeah? Do I want to fuck him? Yeah?
Have I been had the opportunity? Not yet? Not yet? I
mean, am I like super horny because of the hormones Brock attracted me?
I'm gorgeous? Yes, yes, what I do to you? Not right
now, not this season, not on camera. That's that's not why I'm
here. I'm here to fight about other stuff. But she's just ridiculous.
And I felt for Shina in that moment because she's not wrong whatever she's picking
up on, oh, she's not wrong. And then Lawa has the nerve
to go. I mean, I feel like we're kind of a thrifle,
like right now, yes, and that was me. I'd be like her,
not like stop. And then she laughs. She kind of laughs,
but she probably doesn't know what to do because she's like, but you do
all the heavy lifting, blow jobs, symbol commercial break m I'll leave it
at that. And I did not like the Brock says like, it's my
second chance of being a dad. No, you have a first chance to
go go do that one as well. They're equally important, dude, Okay
that I just I found that to be so weird and disingenuous and where else
could you make a moment out of, like, oh my god, it's
so sad that like my ex doesn't like want me to see the kids.
I mean she does, but she says they don't want to see me,
and everyone's crying and telling him he's a great dad. What plenty have I
done? Even Katie. I was like, I didn't like you at first.
Like Katie's trying. I think she's just trying to be like I have
to say something nice to somebody I got to like, even though I know
she has totally contempt for all of them. She I mean, but she
you know, it's like, so someone has to be the biggest bag.
It's how I always felt about Oprah. Can I tell you my thing about
Oprah? Sure? Okay, really quick, because I know we're running long,
okay, and I know we have to end the show right now.
Let's just end it so much more. But my thing is always like she'd
have people on the show that did terrible things, but then they got themselves
better, and then she'd give him a makeover because they don't do the terrible
things anymore. But I wanted to be like right into the show and go,
hey, how about me? I never did I never stole like a
baby, right, and then got myself better? Like can can I get
new teeth? Is there? Can we do a dental makeover on me?
And that's the thing, is like, well, how bad? It's like
James. James was vile, and I know I've been soft on James too,
but it's like they all act like he's the greatest guy ever when he
only because he's not as bad as he used to be, right, I
mean I do I do kind of like James too, So I guess there's
something there. I don't know what would. What I find really abhorrent too,
is that in our society, it's if a woman did that. Imagine
if a woman a bit totally abandoned her kids, had kids that she just
did not ever see anymore because she left town, hadn't paid child any child
support for a while, then went on and was on a TV show,
a reality show in another country, and was just like, I mean,
it's so sad that I like, had these other kids and I just I
don't have any relationship with them. Imagine if it was a woman, it's
just I know not we wouldn't be celebrating her. I guarantee you not one
person would be like, oh my god, you're the best mom. It
makes me guy, what a great loving mom you are. People would be
like, are you fucking high? So true, mom, you left your
kids. But a guy does it, and it's like, oh my god,
give him a chance. He's doing the best he can, oh,
and then go through all that and then just show and like and never leave
those like little like bikinis, those little banana hammocks you're wearing behind like and
then showing like hilarious pictures if that were a woman, Like look at those
cute little bikinis. Like the next shot is just three pictures of her in
a bikini. Right, fuck, go visit your kids, right to go
down there. Okay, I'm sure that will be a storyline. By the
way he did push in there that like I'd like to take you guys all
to New Zealand because you know, he wants that to be like a trip
that Bravo pays for because he's not going to pay for it. And then
he'll try to see his kids. Maybe he will, I don't know.
I mean I hope so for their sake, but it's so sad. Yeah.
If I have his kids, though, am I going to be like
excited that dad is making himself a TV moment? They probably won't. They
won't know that yet. They're too young to know that. I mean,
get in there now, Brock. Fix it. I don't know how,
but you've got to fix it. There's just no in my mind. There's
literally no excuse. He's on a fucking TV show. I know, one
hundred percent agreed. Okay, So then they bring up Arianna. What up
with Dan? I get the same. I mean, so she kind of
moved to New York. I guess makes sense. Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, no New York. That's right, moved to New York. And
I'm not getting the vibe from her that she's that into him. Are you
getting that? I know that though, or I'm not sure that he's into
her. I cannot tell because she's like, yeah, we don't live together
by yeah, and which makes sense. And I love what she said about
like, well was it too soon? I mean, you're still healing and
she's like, yeah, I'm not going to put my life on hold for
healing. I could be healing for ten years. I'm not going to go
like not have love and adventures because people have said that to me before.
If I'm having a hard time with like a breakup or something, They're like,
you need to like take a dip and lake you and I'm like,
nah, I've done that. I'm going to go like do really fun things
and make out and have a great time, like you can do the work
at the same time, right, And I like that she said that,
And I like that she held her own when they came for her, like
when James was coming for her. How to see, James is still James.
He's still a dick. This is kind of when you was doing it,
Like I just read this is when he got all hyped up again.
Yeah, and he was like, well, Ali was only a couple months,
because they're like, well, that was really soon after Rachel. That
was like, right, he was like a couple of months and she's like,
well, Dan was a couple of months too, dude. I mean,
also again with the double standard, Sama bal has a full on girlfriend.
Oh, let's talk about the girlfriend. Let's talk about this girlfriend who
was Oh what a shock, like a mo she's a model, they say,
mm hmmm. He's like yeah, oh, and he was putting I'm
sorry, I yelled. He was putting Ariana down in the same breath by
saying he's like, yeah, she's got her own stuff, like she's got
her own house. And I felt like that was a little slam on Ariana
being a mess for so long. Yeah, I mean, I don't go
back that far with the show, but is that what he was saying about
her before, because they sure have a house together now. I mean,
I think that's just the vibe that she never pays the bills. But this
girl, like she doesn't even watch the show. Bro, it's gone good,
bro watch the show and like, and he brings up like, didn't
she date? I think she's the chick that dated Leo DiCaprio for a super
short time. And I could be wrong about this, so don't yell at
me. Victoria is her name. I think she's the one that tried to
crash Leo DiCaprio's birthday party last year and they wouldn't let her in. It
could be a different lady than oh, thanged, but there was some lady
that was like, yeah, she wasn't on the guest list, but she
tried to go anyway in this like crazy outfit and they were like no,
no, no, no, no. Oh. Interesting. I think it's
her. So if it is her, if it's not her, whatever,
well, see it's her. One of them makes some comment about the fact
that and I didn't really understand this, but about how they had wallpaper in
their house that had an iconic picture of like Leonardo A model. Yeah,
James was saying it. It was in there her room, in the mudroom.
He was pointing out that they have this wallpaper that has Leo DiCaprio with
like a tall, dark haired model, which would be anyone that's his type.
Usually it is, and so they're like, oh, what if that's
James was all hyped up about it, and Arianne was like, yeah,
I picked out that wall people shut up. And then so then Laala starts
flirting with Schwartz. Let's not forget that, and Katie does not care.
They're like, would you would you mind if this happened, and Katie's like,
yeah, maybe I don't care. I believed I believed Katie there,
she does not care about Schwartz right at all? Right, Right, so
now Laala is being accused of having a flirty relationship with Schwartz. M but
she is kind of a little bit yeah, and she's like, why is
everybody it was accusing me of flirting with people like I would not want to
beat with him, like I would eat this man alive. She thinks she's
so sexy for saying that. It's like and they're like, yeah, you
would, and don't forget they used to fight all the time, and Schwartz
would get drunk and be like, why don't you go on a housewive show
with your stupid lips and your fucking botot like he was so mean to La
La. I mean, this is all so grossly. All had sex and
somebody brought up was it on the show that they did kiss once? She
kiss Schwartz once? Oh? Probably, I'm sure they all made out.
We all made out with all the comics. Yeah, we have to,
like, you just make out with whoever's in your sightline in your twenties,
right, Okay, So then for I wrote for the sake of Lisa Vander
Pump, we have to hear about the pump closed. But she's moved some
of those elements Darling to Tom Tom, which she did. It was confusing
the day it happened, I went to Tom Tom, So the day that
Pump closed, I happened to be going to Tom Tom. I'm sorry about
that, you guys. I just wanted to see what the drinks were like,
right, that's all. I saw her son, by the way,
I saw Max when I was there, and she had moved the Pump sign
and put it over the Tom Tom sign. That day. I have a
picture of it. Oh my god. Yeah, So like there weren't wrong
to say, yeah, we kind of thought she might be rebranding Tom Tom.
And then they were all like, what is your brand though, besides
a bejeweled lightning bolt? Right? So I enjoyed, And then they were
kind of throwing it looked like she was being a little rude. Vanderbult was
being rude to Katie and Ariana about their sandwich shop, Yeah, about why
it took so long to open up. And then Andy's like, well,
you weren't that way about Schwartz and Sandoval exactly, but you weren't giving shit
to them for taking so long to open. She's like, oh, darlings,
well, everybody knows I like the boys better than the girls. Did
she say that. She didn't say it, she might as well have,
And yeah, she was accusing them of all kinds of stuff and they're like
what. So then they ask Ariana about her reaction to how Lala was acting
and in her you know, what do you call it? In her interviews
in her cameras, and she's like, yeah, I don't know. I'm
just a fish on a deck. I'm just I don't even know where I
am right now. Well, she said she hasn't watched. That's when she
said, I have been watching the season, which is super smart of her.
I get it, she's like, but the way she says everything is
just like I don't care. I don't know. I didn't watch it and
I didn't see it. And then it got interesting again because they brought up
like what's up with Katie versus Lala, which you've brought up a lot this
season, like who is that? Who was fighting? And they said it
first, well, it is because Sheena and Katie. Sheen and Katie weren't
getting along, which is, you know, they're very different personalities. And
then Lala had become friends with she It was a whole thing. But then
they actually started fighting and Katie. I felt like Katie was taken off guard
here, like she was like, show what is going on? Yes,
it was weird. Well, okay, we're gonna give Laala one thing,
because you know, I'm team Katie all the time, but I forget that
she can be really awful and bullying. It is true, and she apparently
ad dmd Lalla and she called her I thought she said the sea word,
but she called her a clown, right, I thought she said the sea
word too. Yeah, and she's like, you should get fire your lawyer
and get a therapist, you clown. But it sounded like you. So
Laala broke that down and she did not back down from it, and I
and you could see that Katie was like really getting nervous. She's like,
oh yeah, She's like, well, yeah, I mean I think therapy
is like good, Like I think everybody should get therapy. And it was
like, I don't mind to know that that's really what you meant by that,
you clown, Like she could have just said I wish Katie and everything,
like I think clowns are adorable. And when I say like you clown,
I mean like you silly clown, like you're so at You're so cute,
like a crown. This is when it got a little nuts because then
she brings arian She's like, yeah, all these things you said to me,
now she's saying on cameras. So Katie thought she was friends with La
La told her all this stuff like yeah, I don't really I didn't even
know Ariana was going to New York, Like I kind of wish I knew,
you know, but not bringing it on the show. Then Lalla like
blows her cover and Ariana is like, fuck, like shit, I mean
not Ariana. Katie's like, oh no, yeah, that was private.
It's you was talking to my friend. It seemed to me that Ariana was
like, not that upset, kind of like okay. I felt like Ariana's
face was kind of going like fair enough, like I did kind of disappear,
you know. And I thought that Ariana was kind of happy that she
hadn't shared it on camera and kind of understood. And I think that Laala
sucks for being like, I'm so great because I bring everything up on camera
because that's my job. Oh my god, especially when you're pretending that you're
really good buddies, and you know, she's trusting Katie's trusting her, and
then she's throwing all the things, and by saying all this, Laala is
putting Ariana down too. She's like, you said she didn't pay the rent.
You said that, member, So she's taken them everybody down for no
reason exactly exactly. So then they do this flashback to a scene from last
season where Lala was trying to give advice about Tom to Ariana. M h
and Katie was sticking up for Ariana and feeling like Lalla was making about herself,
and then so and then that was the part where Lala was Katie gets
mad and goes, we'll say it with your whole chest or whatever, and
then I love that. Lala is like, well, I was just being
like amazing, like a great person by telling Arianna what it was like for
me when Randall cheated on me, Like I wasn't making it about myself.
I was just like being a good friend by explaining myself. And Katie's like,
but thank you. Katie was like, but Arianna was five months in
like it was. And Lala's like, well, I would have loved to
have a friend like me, like I'm really great, and then she tries
to around yes, right right, she completely twisted it. You know what
it comes down to. We know this Laala is so jealous. She's just
jealous that she couldn't turn her broken heart into all this. It didn't happen
for her at all. And she tries to go after every and she's like,
I have a I have a lipstick. No one knows what like I
know it's called give them Laala. Nobody cares. Does anyone have it?
Does anyone buy her products? Because I have never I'm going to go to
the sandwich shop. But I'm not buying her lip. I'm not saying you
shouldn't buy your lip glass. I'm not you know, do whatever you want,
Like that's that's what you're saying, Well, you can do whatever.
I'm not saying you need lip gloss to paste. I'm going to push back.
What if I was. That's where I'm going to push back. I'm
going to push back. Mm hmm, okay, go on. I just
in conclusion on this episode, never trust Laala ever. I just wrote she
is not a serious person, and I hate this shit. I'm so I
got really pissed off at her, and I wanted to like serious people,
uh huh, and I wanted to remember at the beginning of this season,
I kind of was like, you know, I will give her a chance.
I agree. I was with you. I was with you on that,
but it's not. So this is where Laala just kind of goes nuts
and is like you and I are truth tellers, you know, but when
the cameras go off like we're on or whatever, you're not honest. And
then she's talking about how people that live in the comment section, you know,
meaning like you're the Greek chorus. You're just off on, you're just
you just won't say anything like to anyone's face. But then when the camp,
when you're doing your interview, you're like, that's where you're making all
your comments. But I'm like, I am a real reality star, like
you know, it's ridiculous. And then it's all gets worse and she's like,
and it's no secret that Ariana is a fan favorite. No, there's
her jealousy there it is. She can't stand it, and I wish you
if she wants to be so honest, then you be honest, say it
and say it, say it with your whole chest. Girl, Yeah,
say your thing. But also, pe, I just feel like it's not
fair to expect everybody to fuck up their whole lives just because they're on camera,
right, Like, sorry, and you can choose. You get to
choose what you want, and if that doesn't work for viewers, then Bravo
will decide and they'll get rid of them because they didn't bring a storyline or
whatever. But that's up to you. You can't pretend to be somebody's friend
and then turn on them and tell everybody their shit. Disgusting. I feel
like the Housewives have have really learned this. Most of the Housewives have no
real storyline that is on camera, right, I mean, look, p
K and I mean these people are living completely different lives off the show.
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