WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.679 All right, five o'clock here on a Thursday afternoon. Thanks for hanging out 2 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:16.359 with us Coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety 3 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:20.640 Appreciate our friends over there at Thornton's stopped in this morning once again to take 4 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:26.359 advantage of the three for seven bucks on the Monster Energy drinks. Your Monster 5 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:29.559 Energy drink, guy, I've been I like them. I like them. 6 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:31.640 If you don't, it's fine. It's you know, because you know some 7 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.920 people don't, and I'm sure you're probably better off than me if you're not 8 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:39.679 drinking them. Alani New Kicks, you know, yeah, they're They're really 9 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:41.799 really good. But I do like Monster. I like them better than Red 10 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:46.320 Bull. 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And anytime I mentioned that, 30 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:57.040 it'll be a few days in somebody. Sometimes people are that I know, 31 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:00.959 or sometimes people that I don't even know will tell me, hey, 32 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:04.400 you need to start plugging those donuts at Thornton's more because they're delicious. So 33 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.239 yeah, shout out to our friends over there at Thornton's. All right, 34 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:10.199 So earlier within the show, we had Pat Kelsey on. He joined us 35 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:15.400 at three thirty, had a good conversation. Nice for him to make an 36 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:19.879 appearance here on the show. First time we've had him on and a good 37 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:24.080 convo. I can certainly tell you that fan engagement is going to be and 38 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:28.680 you've already seen that fan engagement is going to be much different with this regime. 39 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:31.560 And I think we learned the hard way how important that is. And 40 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:36.719 I wouldn't be shocked if Pat Kelsey becomes, you know, a regular, 41 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:38.159 not meaning he's going to be on every week, but you know, I 42 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:44.680 think, to be fair, no one within the athletic department, no one 43 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:50.280 within the basketball program meaning like you know, those who work for the program, 44 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:53.319 but they really work more so like they don't work as a coach or 45 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:57.039 a recruiter, they just work, you know, on the administration side. 46 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.840 They never thought that it wasn't an important to engage with fans. And trust 47 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:02.759 me, and I want to make it about like the local media that we 48 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:06.919 deserve access, we deserve interviews, because trust me, I don't. I 49 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.280 don't believe that for a second. Like for example, if I was Kenny 50 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:14.000 Payne, I would never come on my show. I would like to think 51 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:15.719 that he would believe that it was never personal. It was just you know, 52 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:19.080 calling the leg it is, but like, you know, I get 53 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:23.080 it. So I've never requested to have Pat Kelsey on the show, just 54 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.759 because I don't ever want to give off the you know, perception that I 55 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:30.400 feel like I'm owed an interview. But obviously with the season, you know, 56 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:35.800 not necessarily right around the corner, but the roster's been put together now 57 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:39.039 they're just focusing on recruiting for the future, meaning freshman to be there's a 58 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:43.039 little bit more time available, I guess for him to make himself available. 59 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.759 That he did a lot of his TV interviews last week and radio making the 60 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:51.039 radio rounds obviously this week. And you know that stuff's important and again not 61 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:54.560 because it you know, helps my show or someone else's show. It's important 62 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:59.879 for fans to hear from their coach. It just is. I mean again, 63 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:03.840 I said this throughout the last few years, and it's something that is 64 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:06.680 I think pretty obvious, but maybe others don't see it that way. But 65 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:10.240 if you don't, you're wrong. I mean, I guess it's a matter 66 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:14.319 of opinion. But when you are at a place like Louisville where basketball matters 67 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:17.439 so much to so many people, we're crazy about it. And you know, 68 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:21.040 there are people who pay a lot of money every year to donate so 69 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:26.839 they can then buy season tickets. Right They've been going to games forever like 70 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:30.639 it's an investment both financially but even more so emotionally. People care so much 71 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:34.600 about Louisville basketball. So with that, regardless of how good or bad things 72 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.879 are going, silence is never the answer. And you're not going to see 73 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.800 that with this regime. And I think they're going to be successful, and 74 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:46.319 that usually will lead to you know, anybody want anybody being more available and 75 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.439 wanting to talk about said success. But even when things are not going great, 76 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:53.199 if that happens, I still think you're going to see transparency and there's 77 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:58.160 going to be there's going to be more engagement with the fans. I mean, 78 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:00.560 and again not just and not be Island, But anyways, here is 79 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:08.319 the interview for those of you who missed it, and hope you enjoy That's 80 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.319 right, Coffee and Company. You're rolling along here on a Thursday afternoon. 81 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.439 Thank you so much for hanging out with us here on Sports Talk seven ninety 82 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.000 And we now bring in a special guest to making his first appearance here on 83 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:20.839 Coffee and Company, Louisville basketball coach Pat Kelsey, coach, how we doing 84 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:26.519 this afternoon? Hey? Nick? How you doing? Thanks so much for 85 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:29.560 having me on. Well, how about that intro music? What was that 86 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:33.439 little gin blossoms? That's match Bucks twenty oh, match Bucks twenty Yeah. 87 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.680 I got to give some credit to our producer Austin. He picked that one. 88 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:39.040 I'll let him pick the songs and he usually does a pretty good job. 89 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:42.079 So again, thanks for making some time for us. I know you're 90 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:46.240 extremely busy. You've been very busy since you arrive. So I guess i'll 91 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:47.600 start with this. Have you had much time to kind of, you know, 92 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:51.560 reflect and settle in and you know, look back on this big change 93 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.399 that you've made here taken the job here at Louisville. I know it's been 94 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.639 very hectic since you got here, but just I guess early impressions on your 95 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.319 new home here in Louisville. Yeah, there hasn't been a lot of lulls, 96 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:06.360 if you will here over the last whatever it is a couple of months, 97 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:11.439 two and a half months, but you know, you know, Luke 98 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.600 Hancock was that practice, I don't know, a week and a half ago 99 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:16.240 or so, and he asked me, he said, give me something, 100 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:20.319 give me, give me one thing. What's been the best thing? And 101 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:24.600 I told him, you know, I said this on an interview on television 102 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.959 the other day and I just said, it's that moment probably once a day, 103 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.040 when all of a sudden it hits me. I'm head coach at the 104 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.480 University of Louisville. That's pretty cool. That is pretty dang cool. And 105 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:39.879 you know it's the city's been awesome to me and my family, who's not 106 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:42.120 here full time yet, but they'll be coming here really, really soon. 107 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:46.240 Finally found a house and you know, the moves starting to be more of 108 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.480 reality. Get them all up here. And that has been the most difficult 109 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.199 part is not having them here with me, but they'll be here soon. 110 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:58.120 Love the Derby. The Derby was awesome. I'm becoming a bourbon connoisseur a 111 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:00.639 little bit, drinking a lot, but people, people just keep giving me 112 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.000 some gifts. So I got this trophy case of big time Bourbons, which 113 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:09.680 I don't know if it'll ever get drink but but but no, it's been 114 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:13.759 awesome. So you've been when you are here in town and you're not out 115 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.560 recruiting, you know you've been making the rounds and very visible and that that 116 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.720 is certainly appreciated by a lot of the fans, that's for sure. But 117 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:24.839 what are your impressions of us as a fan base, Because we're crazy, 118 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:28.160 and I get the sense that you're willing to embrace the crazy in us and 119 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.720 maybe look at it as a strength as far as what makes Louisville basketball a 120 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:34.399 special program. But you know, what do you make of the fans. 121 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:38.439 I know you've been greeted with open arms and fans are super excited, But 122 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:41.439 I feel like you kind of already know that we're we're kind of nuts when 123 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:46.519 it comes to basketball around here. Yeah, I mean, it's this This 124 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.399 state is one of the greatest basketball states, if not the greatest basketball state 125 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:55.319 in the entire country. In basketball really really matters here. You know, 126 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:59.839 those kids are born with the basketball in your crib, and you know, 127 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:07.240 in the city of Louisville is is unbelievably head over heels passionate about about the 128 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:09.720 Cardinals. You know, I said, somebody's probably said this before, but 129 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:15.040 I thought it was pretty cool. There's so many college towns right around the 130 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.319 country, and you can find a outside of major city. There's even Power 131 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:26.839 five programs that that kind of university and a football program and basketball program truly 132 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.040 make up that town. And you know, I saw this up at the 133 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:35.039 Football Center. I think maybe it's a banner on the football stadium and it 134 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:41.039 says, you know, Louisville is America's college city, right. I mean, 135 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:45.519 there's over a million people, I think in metropolitan Louisville, and as 136 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.200 we know, there's no major professional sports team here, and you know, 137 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:54.120 University of Louisville sports athletics, football, basketball, volleyball, women's basketball. 138 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:58.879 I'm actually go on and on, really really baseball really matter here. And 139 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.039 you know I've I know it and I embraced it. You want to be 140 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.559 somewhere where it matters. You want to be somewhere where there's not apathy. 141 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.559 You want to be somewhere where people are passionate. And I've told many people 142 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:15.639 I know there's over a million assistant coaches in town and everybody's knowledgeable and they 143 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:20.240 know basketball, and they have their opinions. You know, I've made the 144 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:24.679 analogy of my fandom, if you will, of the sinsane Bengles and Reds, 145 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:31.559 and I have completely one hundred percent irrational angles in red sil answers. 146 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.559 I have a lot of answers that that I thought, maybe, you know, 147 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:41.000 David Bell and Zach Taylor could could could use. I don't think they 148 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.279 really give a flying crap about what I think and what my opinions are. 149 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:48.039 But I'm not a big social media guy. I am a I am a 150 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.320 guy that you know that utilizes social media to promote our program, promote Louisville 151 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.360 Athletics, this city, all that. But I'm not a guy that's going 152 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.799 to do a lot of scroll And I do pretty good job of putting blinders 153 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:03.279 on and worrying about what I can control about what's right in front of me. 154 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:07.840 But gosh darn, you got to love and embrace the fact that basketball 155 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:11.960 matters here this much. Loewellman's basketball coach Pat Kelsey is our guest here on 156 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:15.879 Sports Talk seven ninety. You put together a brand new team from scratch. 157 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:20.279 Thirteen players have been added to this roster since you arrived, and it really 158 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.559 wasn't that long ago. Talk to me a little bit about the process of 159 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.320 pursuing players in the portal. I mean, when you became a head coach 160 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.639 at that time, it was still mostly roster building from recruiting high school players. 161 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:33.399 And obviously you guys still do that, But when do you know that 162 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.600 you can, you know that you want to pull the trigger and offer a 163 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:37.480 young man in the portal and say, hey, we want you to come 164 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.399 be a part of what we're doing here. Some guys make decisions without visiting 165 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:46.120 schools. Obviously there's an nil component, But how much different is that process 166 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.360 of kind of going all in on a player in the portal, you know, 167 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.080 compared to doing it at the high school level. Well, I just 168 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:58.639 think you have to have good balance on your roster. You know, this 169 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:03.039 was a unique year because obviously we were, you know, building our roster 170 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:07.679 from absolute ground zero with you know, zero scholarship players two and a half 171 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.600 months ago. So it was a little bit of a herculean task to build 172 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.679 a team that we thought could be very, very competitive and a team that's 173 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.759 gonna, you know, going to fight for a championship. And and uh, 174 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.600 we have a process as to how we approach obviously, you know, 175 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.320 uh grassroots and high school recruiting, and a process to how we attack the 176 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:33.840 portal. You know, we have we have metrics and uh basketball analytics and 177 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:39.960 statistics that we value and that that equate and correlate to our system. And 178 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:45.879 uh, but then we also have you know, uh, mechanisms if you 179 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:50.960 will, that measure other things that truly you can't measure, right the makeup 180 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:54.559 and the DNA, the character, the competitiveness, the toughness. You know, 181 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:58.159 a lot of the things that you can't measure that we value as well. 182 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.360 And you know you have to peel we call it peel away the onion. 183 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:03.879 You got to do your due diligence. You got to make the calls 184 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:09.200 and ask the questions, and those things really matter to us. You know. 185 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.799 I think the ultimate intangible guy, ultimate intangible guy. I met today 186 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:20.159 and Russ Smith who was on campus and came to our workout today and cheesel 187 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.360 pets man like his makeup. His DNA is so special. Obviously he was 188 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:28.360 severely under recruited. And Peyton made the point today. I thought it was 189 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.840 great, he said, he came in with two stars and he ended up 190 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.240 putting number two up in the rafters at the end of his career. That's 191 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.279 a hell of a line, you know, Proud of Peyton for that was 192 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:45.120 pretty good. Peyton's Dayton's pretty smart dude. And but yeah, so it 193 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:50.360 is a process of obviously looking at statistics metrics, but then also the immeasurables 194 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.519 as well. So with the personnel that you guys that have added this year, 195 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.159 I'm sure you're still learning a lot about these guys and it's all new 196 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.840 for most of them. But you know, in the brief time you've had 197 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.799 some of them on campus, I know some just arrived. Have you seen 198 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.799 some things that maybe pleasantly surprised you about some of these players, maybe some 199 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.840 things that you weren't expecting me. They're they're they're all they're all doing an 200 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:13.039 unbelievable job. They're they're egal eager learners to our system. I mean, 201 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:20.039 there's a very veteran team. These are guys that have come in decorated right 202 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.080 from winning programs that have that have been a part of championship programs, gone 203 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.919 to n CUAA tournaments, and older guys that that I don't want to say 204 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.080 set in their ways, but they're used to a certain way and just being 205 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:35.960 different in terms of, you know, maybe the way we structure practice or 206 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:41.519 the way that we label or call or terminology in a certain action that's maybe 207 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:46.519 just different. It's just there's a there's an uh, there's a period of 208 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:52.320 adapting, right and adjusting. You've probably seen the article in the paper just 209 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.879 about Eli Foy, our strength coach. I believe one of our secret weapons. 210 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:00.440 Uh. I've been with Eli a long time, and I just know, 211 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:03.320 you know, when guys come in for the first time into our program 212 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.919 and they kind of get indoctrinated, if you will, into our culture. 213 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.639 Part of it is just an absolute butt kicking and beat down in the weight 214 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.480 room for a couple of weeks, and I tell guys all the time, 215 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.960 you know you're going to take a step backward before you take a step forward. 216 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:22.440 And it's when they turn that corners. It gets to the end of 217 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:28.960 June into July, you really start seeing the body composition change. They're feeling 218 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.919 bounce here, more athletic than they ever have. And by then they're even 219 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.279 more comfortable into our system. And then things really really start to roll. 220 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:39.639 But man, I got no complaints. Those guys's been working their butts off, 221 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.080 and it's just nice to have everybody here as well. Within the last 222 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:50.360 two or three days, final couple guys, Corn Johnson and Canai Ruth had 223 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.919 both got in the campus. So it's just good to have to have all 224 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.919 your guys here. Pat Kelsey's our guests joining us here on Sports Talk seven 225 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:00.279 ninety. I know, when it comes to coaching, the a lot of 226 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.879 different styles, different ways to go about it. I think coaching at its 227 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.480 core is really being a leader, and I'm curious there's different ways to lead, 228 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:09.600 different ways to go about it. As mentioned, but other leaders, 229 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.600 maybe outside of basketball, coaches that you find yourself admiring, maybe things you 230 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.159 take from those. It could be a coach of a different sport, could 231 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.120 be, you know, a leader of a corporation. Just curious on maybe 232 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:24.000 where you get motivation and kind of what where you try to, you know, 233 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:28.559 continue to grow as a coach. Yeah, I mean, I think 234 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:33.200 part of it is I've just been so lucky and blessed to be around great 235 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.279 men and great leaders throughout my whole life. And you know, it starts 236 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:41.200 with my father, Mike Kelsey Hugh's former marine and a businessman in Cincinnati, 237 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:48.080 father of five, grandfather of of what is it twenty four now? And 238 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.720 just the way he leads, the way he works, the way he loves, 239 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:56.000 the way he builds the cultures that he's created his businesses and within his 240 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:00.000 family. And then my grandfather, You know, I could say the same 241 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:03.679 thing my high school coach, Joe Schoenfeld, He's been at Elder High School 242 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:10.159 for over three decades. Beloved, successful, does it the right way. 243 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:15.879 Principal hard work in the late great Skip Prosser, who was my college coach 244 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:22.200 and brought me into the coaching profession before he tragically passed away in two thousand 245 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.200 and seven, just a few short days before my oldest daughter, Ruthie was 246 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:30.879 born. Just lucky to learn from people that I could emulate of not only 247 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:37.600 how to act carry yourself professionally, but also but also personally as well. 248 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.159 All Right, I'm going to throw some rapid fire questions at you, coach. 249 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:44.600 Some of these will be basketball related. Some of these are questions where 250 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:45.519 fans can just kind of get to know you a little bit, know more 251 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.759 about Pat Kelsey, not just the coach, but Pat Kelsey, the guy, 252 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.759 let's start with this. I know you're a music fan. You complimented 253 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.559 our intro music there that we had for you, and I'm sure you know 254 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.440 this. Louisville has a lot of big music festivals that continue to grow. 255 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:03.440 They're known all across the country. Let's say there's gonna be a Pat Kelsey 256 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:07.160 stage at one of these music festivals, and you are tasked with booking four 257 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:11.960 acts that are going to be there. You're, you know, the four 258 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:15.799 musicians or acts that you think would best reflect your musical taste. Who you 259 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:18.319 Who you booking? You can get anybody. They're gonna be lined up, 260 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:26.160 I mean, foremost with I'm starting first and foremost with Louisville's own Jack Harlow. 261 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:30.240 Good answer. You know I'm gonna go. If I'm staying in the 262 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:34.640 hip hop genre, I'm going with jay Z. I'm going to old school 263 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:40.200 a little bit there, Hall of Famer, the Goat. If I'm going 264 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:45.319 just kind of down deep in my core, just something i'd like to pop 265 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.359 in and and and pull up on my on my phone, and I'm gonna 266 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:53.920 listen to little Bruce Springsteen. And then if I'm going country, man, 267 00:17:55.079 --> 00:18:00.160 that's a tough call Big Zach Bryant, Guy Love, Zac Brown, Little 268 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:03.839 Kenny Chessney, the old school. I'm I'm versatile man. I can bob 269 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:07.680 and weave and a bunch of a bunch of different genres. Do I sound 270 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:10.960 smart when I say genre? Yeah? Yeah, you sound you sound musically 271 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.279 inclined. I mean it sounds like you know I'm tricking you. I'm tricking 272 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.759 you a little bit. I think that would be that would all that would 273 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:21.279 do was just make the resale ticket prices even more expensive. That would be 274 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:23.119 a heck of a of a group to to add to to one of these 275 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:26.960 music festivals around here that Brian the sings the Revival sothing I know, Yeah, 276 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.799 so my deal? Did that come to you out of nowhere? Because 277 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.480 it really has become sort of your you know, that's how we know there's 278 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.200 some good things on the way. Did you give that much thought? Did 279 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:41.359 it just hit you? Obviously? The Revival is is the tagline where here 280 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.799 to think? I like to think I have a little creativity in me. 281 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:48.559 It's always been sort of who I am in my DNA, and you know, 282 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:49.640 I went through it. We came up with the sing rock to Hill 283 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:52.960 because it's in rock Hills, South Carolina, Charleston. He said our city. 284 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:59.160 Right, you know, global basketball is already just absolutely you know, 285 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.200 uh connected with with Louisville basketball and Charleston. We were trying to so we 286 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.319 said our city. And I got to give a little shout out point to 287 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:11.720 the passer to Brian Klohman, my long long time assistant. He came up 288 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.079 with with the revival with the V I L L E at the end of 289 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.680 vill So, uh, shout out to coach my credit for that one shout 290 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.680 out to my guy Kloe. That's that's I mean, it's it's already caught 291 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.440 on in a major way, all right. When you let's just go back 292 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:27.880 to the early part of your coaching career, obviously from Cincinnati, and you're 293 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:32.880 familiar with Louisville, the city and obviously Louisville basketball. But if somebody brought 294 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:37.039 up Louisville basketball to Pat Kelce fifteen years ago, who was the first player 295 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:40.480 that would come to mind for you? Is someone who played here at some 296 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:41.599 point throughout their career? Just the first guy that comes to mind. I 297 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:47.359 mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell a little fib here and I'm gonna say 298 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:52.359 Peyton Siva because he's my guys on my staff. That's my brother. Obviously, 299 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:56.480 that whole team was special with us today, all those guys. But 300 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:02.319 I gotta say, just because I grew up in the eighties, I gotta 301 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:07.519 say, never nervous Purvis Ellison, that would probably be the first thing that 302 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.759 pops into my mind. But if that's player, but then you know, 303 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:15.680 obviously, Denny Crume, you know, I don't know. I don't want 304 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:19.519 to leave somebody there there and I get I'm kind of putting in which, 305 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:22.720 Hey, you gave a good answer. You one of your one of your 306 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:25.240 guys Gouds on your staff. That was the first time you mentioned, which 307 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:26.720 I think is a safe, safe way to go about it. All right, 308 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:29.880 Uh, we won't keep you too much longer. I have one more 309 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:33.079 question though, and this is another spot that that I'm kind of putting you 310 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.839 in here. But favorite meal or I guess best meal you've had since you've 311 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:38.039 been in town. And I'm sure you haven't had a bad one. Ol 312 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.240 Man, you can't do that to me. I got to I got, 313 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:47.680 I got I got friends. I'm building friendships all over the place. Unbelievable 314 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:51.400 clisine, I think that's one of the underrated things about Louisville, Man, 315 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:55.160 is the food scene. There's some great restaurants here and I've been to a 316 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:57.240 lot of them, and there is no way, there is no way you're 317 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.000 getting me to just name one of them. Man, I'm not doing it. 318 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.880 Hey, I'm Switzerland right now. Man, I'm Switzerland. I'm staying 319 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:04.960 in the middle. Yeah, that's that's a good way to go about it. 320 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.720 And I'm glad to hear you say that. Because Louisville is a city 321 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:11.599 is someone who's been here my whole life. We do claim to be a 322 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:14.680 foodie city. And I don't know if it's just because we feel that way 323 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:17.400 and everybody feels that way. But if you're you know, I know you're 324 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:18.799 probably eating some of the best spots in town. So if you believe that, 325 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.000 that's that's a complement of the city. I do got to give a 326 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.720 little shout out that I can't believe I'm saying this because I'm given I'm giving 327 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:29.920 them some advertising. But being a Cincinnati guy, there is Skyline here. 328 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:33.240 It's just kind of nice little graters. But I just said, I want 329 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:34.359 to name anybody, and then I just named two of them. Well, 330 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:38.599 it's I think it's a given you. Is there anybody from Cincinnati that doesn't 331 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:45.799 love Skyline? Uh, they don't last long. Yeah, it's a staple. 332 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:49.160 Not you're not You're not one of You're not one of us. Yeah. 333 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:52.000 I've gotten that vibe from a lot of folks from Cincinnati, and it's 334 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:56.039 good stuff. It's just clearly it's and I love that Cincinnati kind of takes 335 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:59.559 takes ownership, right, they take pride in Skyline kind of being their thing. 336 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:02.079 All Right, One more question, and this is one I should have 337 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:06.839 asked earlier. Johnny ballgame. Obviously you mentioned the family has not all made 338 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:10.359 the move just yet. How excited is he? I don't know your whole 339 00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:12.640 family. I'm sure is really excited. But he became a notable, you 340 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:17.880 know, figure within the Charleston basketball program during during your time there. Is 341 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:19.559 he is he ready to do the same thing for the villa? Yeah? 342 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:26.160 I mean, Johnny, I mean he's just he's just the typical eleven year 343 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:32.400 old boy, right and he just whatever's in season he's into. He loves 344 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:33.640 hoop, he loves to be in the gym. He's the son of a 345 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:38.160 coach, you know, Josh is awesome. Like Johnny's in town. He 346 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:42.079 lets him be around practice and be around the practice facility. That's awesome. 347 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:47.440 You know, it's a very very demanding profession, so meshing the two things, 348 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:51.000 your personal life and your professional life is really really important or probably never 349 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:53.960 going to see your family. So but yeah, he's good. He can't 350 00:22:53.960 --> 00:23:00.839 wait to get the Louisville. He's been scouting out grade schools and possible AU 351 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.039 programmed. That's awesome. We'll see you can't wait. Well, coach, 352 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:07.480 I appreciate you making time for us again. I know you're very busy. 353 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:12.119 We're all happy that you're here, excited to get this thing started in a 354 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.960 few months and whatnot. So again, thanks so much, coach, and 355 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:19.720 we'll talk to you down a line. Hey, Nick, thank you. 356 00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:22.279 Man. Enjoyed it, all right, take care again. That's Pat Kelsey. 357 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.279 All right, So there you have it. Let's let's go ahead and 358 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.000 get our first break here out of the way and we'll come back. Thirty 359 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.119 minutes left here on a Thursday afternoon, and still plenty to get into, 360 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:37.119 including the verdict that has come in on Terrence Shannon Junior. All right, 361 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:42.880 stick with us right here on Sports Talk seven ninety Now back to coffee and 362 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:48.559 Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. All right, 363 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:53.200 so Terrence Shannon Junr. Has been found not guilty. I talked about it 364 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.599 a little bit earlier, and it just seemed as if that's the way this 365 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:02.480 thing was was had a based off of those there that are covering and reporting 366 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.799 on the trial. But yes, the state of Texas versus Terrence Shannon Jr. 367 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.519 We the people of Douglas County, Kansas found that defendant Terrance Shannon Jr. 368 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.759 Not guilty. So he's been cleared on both charges and is in the 369 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:18.599 eyes of you know, criminal courts, he's one hundred percent innocent. Now, 370 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:21.559 of course, I'm sure there's many there are many people that have been 371 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:25.839 found not guilty that were innocent, But just as far as what was put 372 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:30.359 out there, it's just scary man to think that. And I'm not saying 373 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.920 that this is what happened, because none of us have a clue what happened. 374 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:38.480 But if I heard what was shared at this trial and I was on 375 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.559 the jury, I would have gone with the same thing. But if in 376 00:24:42.599 --> 00:24:48.240 fact this is just completely made up and this was some kind of strategy from 377 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:53.720 the alleged victim that they could get a payday because he's a future NBA player, 378 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:56.920 or you know, maybe just ruin his life for fun, which seems 379 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:02.079 awful, but you know, people do awful thing and again don't know for 380 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:03.960 sure what happened. None of us do, right, I mean, I 381 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.279 guess the truth is really only known between those two people involved here, the 382 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:14.279 alleged victim, victim and Terrence Shannon Jr. But I really think the text 383 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:21.799 message evidence that was shared probably did a lot for those on the jerry as 384 00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:26.680 far as seeing this thing as potentially not real at all and a potential money 385 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.880 grab. I just have a hard time thinking when you're conversing with friends, 386 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:36.119 two friends of yours and you know, yourself in a group chat about this 387 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:41.680 incident, and you're sharing stories from ESPN who broke the news that he had 388 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:47.119 been charged, uh, and then sharing the emojis that show like a money 389 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.279 sign. I mean, that's that. I just have a hard time thinking 390 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.359 that that. I mean, that's not proof that it's what it was, 391 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.240 but man, that's a bad look for for for the victim and her friend 392 00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:02.400 who was a witness, and somebody who testified at the trial. So it's 393 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.839 just scary to think that, you know, somebody could just make that stuff 394 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.880 up. And yes, he was found not guilty, but to say that 395 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:12.200 this won't impact his life in a major way is I mean, he's a 396 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:15.200 victim if this is completely made up, which again we'll never know that, 397 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:19.319 right unless the alleged victim did later down the line come out and say she 398 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.799 made it up, which that's a pretty crappy thing to do. But you 399 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.759 know, if you google this guy's name, who, by the way, 400 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:30.400 is a sensational basketball player for a long time, the coverage of this is 401 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:34.839 going to be what people find on the internet and those who didn't follow this 402 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:41.039 guy with six thousand followers on Twitter to hear what was testified by character witnesses 403 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:48.880 of Terreen Shannon Jr. You know, the victim's friend, who again didn't 404 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.640 do anybody, didn't do anybody any favors on that side on the prosecution side 405 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:57.079 when it comes to their case. I mean, I doubt many people were 406 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:02.000 following this thing very closely at all, and they're going to just assume that 407 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.440 he might have got away with it, and if he is, who the 408 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.759 character witnesses claimed he is. And clearly, if you're the defense and you're 409 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.079 bringing character witnesses to testify, you're going to bring people who are going to 410 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:18.680 say nothing but great things about someone's character. But I mean, I don't 411 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:21.720 think they're making it up. I mean it's some of the things that were 412 00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:23.880 shared were not a matter of opinion. It was more about what they know 413 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:27.920 about him to be fact. And I don't know, I mean, this 414 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.359 was getting coverage, trust me, this was I mean it's not like nobody 415 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.960 knew this was going on. But this is a big story. I mean, 416 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.440 you've got one of the best basketball players in the country who I think 417 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.880 would be getting a lot more NBA draft buzz of this situation wasn't ongoing. 418 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:45.279 I mean, the draft is this month, within less than two weeks, 419 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.920 and he was just finishing up a trial today where he was charged with you 420 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:53.440 know, sexual assault crimes. So you know, it's I just feel like 421 00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:57.640 it. I would have expected if you'd have told me months ago that this 422 00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:02.039 was going to line up up like this, and you know you have. 423 00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:07.720 For those who don't know, Kansas basketball players testified on behalf of what I 424 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.359 mean, they were called to testify hundred Dickinson Junior testified in this trial. 425 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.559 Kevin mccueler testified in this trial because he was a former teammate of Terrence Shannon 426 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.200 juniors at Texas Tech. So, for those who don't know the specifics of 427 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.119 what happened, Illinois played Kansas and football and Terrence Shannon Junr. Along with 428 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.240 some of his friends and in fact an assistant coach. I think it might 429 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:33.440 be like a grad assistant maybe went on the trip with Terrence Shannon Junior's friends 430 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.359 and he was essentially there to be the babysitter for Terryn Shannon Junior, not 431 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.559 to not to act that he needs somebody to watch over him and he's going 432 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.519 to do something bad. But that's not uncommon. If you've got you know, 433 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:47.880 high level college athletes that are out and about, it's you know, 434 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.359 it's pretty common. I feel safe in saying that there is somebody from the 435 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:59.319 program around either directly near them almost kind of serving as you know, their 436 00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:03.200 representation, or in the background because they want to make sure that people aren't 437 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.440 acting a fool. So anyways, they went to this game at Kansas and 438 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.839 that is where this alleged incident took place. And again Terren Shannon Junr. 439 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.960 I mean, he testified under oath today that he did not know who the 440 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.440 victim was, doesn't never met her, never talked to her, didn't do 441 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:22.920 anything she claims. And he said that the first time he saw her was 442 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.519 at the initial hearing, like he didn't even know who this person was, 443 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:33.680 which that's true. I mean, damn yikes. In fact, speaking of 444 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.480 I hope he does. I don't think he'll mind me sharing this story many 445 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.640 many years later, especially considering he is fresh off a Final four. But 446 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.599 about ten years ago, I think it was ten years ago, Louisville wrapped 447 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.079 up their home, their home schedule. Senior night they played Yukon, that 448 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.519 same Yukon that went on, that same Yukon team that went on to win 449 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.599 a national championship, which it still makes me sick to my stomach thinking about 450 00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:59.039 that. But that night, you know, that was a senior night for 451 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:03.400 some special guys. You had Luke Hancocked him, Henderson, Stephen Ventrees and 452 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.039 obviously Russ Smith. And that night a lot of those guys went out and 453 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:11.000 I ended up going out that night as well. I had a friend, 454 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.640 I have a friend who is close friends with Russ and still is. He's 455 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.799 now an attorney here in Louisville. Big Nick Wilson shout out Nick, and 456 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.200 they were at I guess, oh my gosh, it's where we are right 457 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.240 now. It was Tango. You remember the bar Tango Austin here for street. 458 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.799 I always always forget that that's where we stay at. That's where I'm 459 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:32.839 sitting at, like we we are located here at four Street. Live is 460 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:34.440 is the old Tango. I'd never even thought about it as I'm about to 461 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.039 share this story. So we ended up in Tango and Russ is there with 462 00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:41.559 his friends from from you know that he grew up with. His dad was 463 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:47.960 there. Big Russ was, you know, holding it down, and somebody 464 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.400 you know, I mean, I think most Louisville fans know who Kevin Keats 465 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:55.599 is, right because he was Rick Bettino's assistant, and we like we are 466 00:30:55.680 --> 00:31:00.279 fan base that will spot our assistant coaches, probably more than most because we 467 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.200 are that like, you know, we're that plugged into it. And Kevin 468 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.440 Keats was there, still in his suit from coaching the game. And he 469 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.079 wasn't there drinking, he wasn't there socializing. He was just there with his 470 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.559 hand in his pocket and he did stick out like a sore thumb, but 471 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.119 he was there to make sure that those guys didn't, you know, end 472 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.079 up in a situation that they shouldn't be in. And sometimes it's not because 473 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.759 they're worried about them. It's more so because you never know who's going to 474 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:27.880 walk up and try to, you know, mess with somebody. And that 475 00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.880 happens from time to time, especially when you mix alcohol. I mean, 476 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:36.119 people get those beer muscles and they you know, they think, you know, 477 00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:41.039 it's just it's it's unfortunately a male trait more than anything. And it's 478 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:42.480 not all dudes, but you know, you know what I'm talking about Austin 479 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.839 dudes who get drunk and see somebody who they know is much more accomplished and 480 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.400 much more successful than them, and they just get these urge to start trouble 481 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.519 with a little jealousy. Yeah, and I've never seen it happen to the 482 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.960 extent of where somebody needed to get involved, but it happens from time to 483 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.640 time. But yeah, So Terrence Shannon Junior is found not guilty, and 484 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.519 I'm not kidding you. I wouldn't be shocked if he now becomes a bigger 485 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:13.079 name in this NBA draft that is already believed to be very weak. So 486 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.519 yeah, not something you typically talk about on this show, but you know, 487 00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.119 I think that's a it's certainly a big story within the world of college 488 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:22.559 basketball, even though he's not going to play college basketball anymore. Again, 489 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:29.039 just imagine telling somebody six months ago the reigning Big Twelve Player of the Year. 490 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:30.079 I guess he wasn't because Zach Edy won it, but he was an 491 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:35.279 All American. Terrence Shinning Jr. Was Is going to be on trial for 492 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.960 these sexual assault crimes, and Hunter Dickinson and Kevin McCuller are going to be 493 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:44.599 there testify. I it's it's a big story, and it seems like it's 494 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.400 getting the most attention as we speak because he's been cleared of these of these 495 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.039 rape charges. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other 496 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.240 side. Put the finishing touches on a Thursday edition of Coffee and Company, 497 00:32:53.240 --> 00:33:02.759 fueled by Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety All right, very little 498 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.319 time left once again to tell you goodbye, but I do want to let 499 00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:07.799 you know if you've missed anything on the show, make sure you check out 500 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:13.599 the podcast always appreciate however you're listening. Wherever you're listening, however you're doing 501 00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.359 it, we certainly appreciate you. You're back at tomorrow, right, Austin. 502 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:21.640 Yeah, I'll be here tomorrow. Yeah, because you know Friday vibes 503 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.519 are are a must of course, and looking forward to it. So you 504 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:31.240 know, the the Terrence Shannon Junior news it is now very widespread and look, 505 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:35.160 there's a chance. And I'm glad somebody reminded me of this on the 506 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.799 text line, like if you are someone you know who was following along, 507 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:42.759 but you know you just didn't find you didn't find a need to share any 508 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.920 thoughts because you didn't have a clue really what happened. That makes total sense, 509 00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.920 But just I mean, the coverage of the trial, I just felt 510 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.519 like would be a bigger talking point. I'm not expecting everybody out there to 511 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.359 be claiming they know he's innocent. No, he's guilty, because none of 512 00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:59.960 us know. But he did go through a really rough, rough senior season 513 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.519 where he was sensational on the floor as far as what he was doing. 514 00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:07.199 But you know, no means no chance from opposing teams and left off all 515 00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:12.840 American teams nobody would vote for him because of the situation. So he's found 516 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.079 innocent, and you know, he's a hell of a player. I think 517 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:15.920 he could be really good in the NBA, to be honest with you. 518 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.880 All Right, we're out of time and we're back at it tomorrow to wrap 519 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.239 up the week again. If you missed the Pat Kelsey interview, check it 520 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.039 out on the podcast and have a good night everybody. Talk to you tomorrow.