1 00:00:02,359 --> 00:00:07,040 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the House of Dragon. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,439 Spoiler review, episode one, season two. It's been a minute because we 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,000 did this while the show came out two years ago. Now the wrong mic? 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,039 Is that what you're hearing out with the I think so? I can't 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,120 tell. I think so. I definitely am. I probably some better now, 6 00:00:22,199 --> 00:00:25,760 But yes, episode one of season two of House of Dragon. We 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,559 are here. You want, you can go back and get our thoughts, 8 00:00:29,559 --> 00:00:32,240 but we'd probably do a quicker work because it's been two years and whatnot. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,560 And that I feel like that was a ride that first season because I feel 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,079 like there was not highs and lows, but we were coming off the Game 11 00:00:39,119 --> 00:00:45,439 of Thrones. I don't know, stumbling over finale. Who knows. But 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,000 yeah, I am the clown Prince of Dragons. Trust now I'm joined by 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,799 the House Stark taylor Field. Yeah, And like I said, we're here 14 00:00:53,799 --> 00:00:57,320 to break that down. So we will give our nonsporter thoughts and then we'll 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,119 give a little break and then we will go into spoiler thoughts. If you 16 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:02,960 haven't got a chance to see it, or if you're I don't know what 17 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:06,200 I feel like. Once you're into season two of a show. You're you're 18 00:01:06,239 --> 00:01:07,400 here because you're watching. You know, I don't think you're getting a chance 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,319 unless you really didn't like season one. You're like, oh, should I 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,519 give it a chance? But I would say, as of right now, 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,640 it's probably similar to season one, but we will get there. So yeah, 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,319 I'm not gonna plug too much stuff. Usual stuff's happening to this week's 23 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,280 side quest. I'll be you and Dylan. We got the Boys, we 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,959 got Acolyte, and there's some other stuff dropping on Patreon, some excellent retro 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,799 stuff. So I think it's Alien Alien three this week. I think we're 26 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:34,719 recording for the Patriots, right, so that'll be fun. I've not seen 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:41,760 that in a I'm very blanked on Alien one and two, No, and 28 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:45,239 then Prometheus know and then the rest of Alien movies. I feel like I 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,760 remember bits and pieces of but not very very much. So I'm excited to 30 00:01:48,799 --> 00:01:49,640 get back at that. But yeah, you want to head over to Patreon 31 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:53,000 and do that, and you get those episodes early, like months early. 32 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:57,599 Right now, you get the regular episodes at free and there's usually two episodes 33 00:01:57,599 --> 00:02:00,120 on there a month that are exclusive, sometimes three. Also after nine when 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,200 you call in. I don't know if we were doing one in June as 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,959 we said before, but July will definitely be doing one for a call in 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,840 the catch up with everybody, just because this one's a little busy and lots 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,840 of us are out of town here, They're got family in town, so 38 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:14,360 it's a hectic sort of month, but look out for that. And yeah, 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,080 and then also Geek First Day, we would really appreciate that. If 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,439 you check out August third, we're gonna be streaming for nine hours. There's 41 00:02:20,479 --> 00:02:23,439 gonna be a wrestling match, there's gonna be our twenty twelve Golden Geeks, 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,560 there's gonna be our Geek Verses, which is our Deadliest Warriors with fictional characters. 43 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:30,960 We got trivia going on with me and Dylan hosting it or I guess 44 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,080 not hosting, team leading it with patrons and stuff, so and lots of 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,719 other stuff throughout the day. Just kind of fun be in the chat and 46 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:40,360 yeah, come watch live. And if you want to extend the stream, 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:46,599 we'll go more into details we get closer, but if you join Patreon or 48 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:50,120 up tier, we will make extending the stream longer. This is to celebrate 49 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:53,039 our nine year anniversary, so We very much appreciate the support and anything that 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,479 we do, you know, up the tier make that's gonna go into most 51 00:02:57,479 --> 00:03:00,840 of the stuff that we create next year and after the fall will make our 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,599 game plan for twenty twenty five, which is crazy. We're halfway through the 53 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,360 year already, you know. So, But yeah, tarror Field, what 54 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,759 did give a brief synopsis or overall thought of what you thought about season one? 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,280 You're if you can remember most of your thoughts, liked it, didn't 56 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:15,879 like it, et cetera, just because, like I said, that was 57 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:19,919 a two years ago now, so people might not remember or we might have 58 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,439 new listeners. And then what do you think about episode one so far? 59 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,199 Yeah, so, from what I can recall a Season one, it was 60 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:32,599 it was a lot of just the kind of development and narratives that I feel 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:38,520 like you really were craving in Game of Thrones. That wasn't probably there for 62 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:43,479 most Game of Thrones fans and the end days of of Game of Thrones and 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,479 some of that final season, but it definitely just brought us back to that 64 00:03:46,599 --> 00:03:53,120 og original kind of vibe of west Rous that you really kind of you're craving 65 00:03:53,159 --> 00:04:00,000 the Seven Kingdoms and the whole whole just chaos and betrayal and everything that is 66 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,240 kind of embodied it in that. So I think that the first season absolutely 67 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,800 knocked it out of the park for me. I love it very very much, 68 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:12,599 And even with a time jump that takes place in there too, I'm 69 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,520 not phased by it at all. I think that the characters do really really 70 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,040 well in portraying the younger versions as well as the older versions, and now 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:26,079 that this story is obviously continuing with these older versions, I just think that 72 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:32,720 it's it's I guess I can't say that because it's non spoiler still, it's 73 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:35,959 just it's it's nice to get back into this this narrative, and I'm really 74 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,519 really excited to see where things are going to be continuing here because the finale 75 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,319 that it was just mind blowing and of season one, like, holy crap, 76 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,399 finale this season right, I did, yeah, I got, I 77 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:55,920 got all of it dropped on on Crave but it was just absolutely incredible the 78 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,279 ending, and I it was just bold and crazy, just oh that's that's 79 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:03,000 the kind of classic Game of Thrones vibe that I really really I miss and 80 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,279 enjoy. As painstaking as it is, but it was a story that Okay, 81 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:16,040 this, this climactic ending has really just cemented my my, my hype 82 00:05:16,079 --> 00:05:18,360 level for this show and that Okay, well I'm gonna be there obviously day 83 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,959 one, we're gonna review it. But even if we weren't reviewing it, 84 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,399 I'm sure many other people would agree with me that they would have been they'd 85 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:27,800 be their day one. I mean, you're here here now listening to this 86 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:31,519 review, So just an ending like that for the podcast. That's why you're 87 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,079 here. If if geek Ers isn't going, those house number dragons be be 88 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:43,040 over you know, yeah that it or is your wife? I dropped out 89 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,920 his wife? I dropped out. There you go, lets hillman, I 90 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,959 will go while we're waiting for him to return. Yeah. So, as 91 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:51,480 I've said before, so I'm a little broken record there. But if you 92 00:05:51,519 --> 00:05:55,600 haven't heard my thoughts. Was a big fan of Game of Thrones, head 93 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,639 up and down, but much like everybody liked it, and I'm probably fit 94 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,120 the majority of Oh of course Terry left has my voices going away as in 95 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,680 the majority of it. Did not enjoy the finale, didn't hate it, 96 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,759 but overall was disappointed and kind of was done in a way where I didn't 97 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:11,319 think I needed more Game of Thrones. I was happy to leave it there, 98 00:06:11,319 --> 00:06:13,399 but it was coming up. The boys won review and I thought, 99 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:17,279 okay, sure I'll review and jump on the bandwagon. And then I think 100 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,560 I enjoyed it for the most part, and then I ended up really liking 101 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,439 it. There were some decisions here there that a little uh. I think 102 00:06:24,439 --> 00:06:28,199 it was mostly the time jumps. I did rewatch season one in preparation this, 103 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,680 so if you have any questions to you or anything referred back to. 104 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:34,399 I watched a couple episodes and my kids were six, so then on Friday 105 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:39,879 I watched six episodes straight back back, so it's just six hours a game 106 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,680 thrown because I had touse that I'm not gonna finish it before the show, 107 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,319 and I did it. I was glad, so my problems remained the same 108 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,560 as far as overall, I think I gave like a nine to nine point 109 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,000 five. We were finished, where really enjoyed it. Maybe there's odd decision 110 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,800 there that I thought I didn't buy it, but most of them were minor. 111 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,720 I think for me it was the time jumps, where there you could 112 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:00,240 argue Season one literally could have been three seasons I know some people like, 113 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:03,480 oh, it might be slow, dad, but I feel like there's tons 114 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:08,800 of things that we still didn't get into or skimmed over very fast even rewatching. 115 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,399 Oh man, I really wish like just little stuff like Vesaris and Damon 116 00:07:13,519 --> 00:07:15,839 have so much tension and him and Vernier get married and they don't really speak 117 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:20,279 about that the next time. Damon season is like Venier's Visarius is like like 118 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:24,480 he's like a skeleton and can barely like think and to us. So it's 119 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:27,759 just like there's certain moments where even rewatching go, oh man, I wish 120 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,000 we could have spent some time there. But overall, I think it's a 121 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:33,120 very great show, and so far, episode one is doing a very good 122 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:35,759 job of I think continue that legacy. I think, like you said, 123 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,639 it's a good thing that we're with these characters. And I don't suspect any 124 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,720 time jumps if they are hopefully minor ones, but not like last time we 125 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,759 were jumping to years to decades and stuff. I think that we should stay 126 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:49,199 in this times And I think they even said there's gonna be no time jumps 127 00:07:49,199 --> 00:07:53,879 if they were maybe flashbacks or something, but no, so so far, 128 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,759 I really enjoy it. They're picking up tons of threads, which a show 129 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,560 should do, but I just think they're picking up tons of th reds that 130 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,040 were in that finale. So I and in the last few episodes, which 131 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:07,040 is great, they do a great job. Was still rashing at the tension 132 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:11,360 where there's tons of characters at playing there's tons of main characters, but you 133 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:15,399 still with Game of Thrones, you never know what could happen and you never 134 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:18,439 know who could bite it. And I think the last fifteen minutes of this 135 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,079 episode are really good, and I think it was smart to end that way 136 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,199 too, because I feel like the end very big Game of Thrones. I 137 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:28,279 feel like many seasons would not like end big. Sometimes John Snow would come 138 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,079 back to life, and sometimes it's just be like, oh, here's the 139 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:31,399 gang and this is what they're up to, right, So and that's fine 140 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:35,559 because some people that's their critique. In tells to Dragon that sometimes it moves 141 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,720 too fast, and I could see that because it usually has big episodes or 142 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:41,200 big moments. But this one, even without the ending, has lots of 143 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,720 great moments, lots of great character moments. So yeah, I think so 144 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:48,039 like this episode. I don't think I maybe when we talk about it will 145 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:50,080 get there. But just even this episode in particularly, I don't think I 146 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,919 have like a negative I think it's all going in the right way. And 147 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:56,279 then I think everything they did for the past hour was right, and they 148 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,600 let I think everything that I wanted to see, even a snippet of breed. 149 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:03,720 I think they said it's gonna be a bit more Game of Thrones, 150 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:07,360 this type of season where you'll have a lot more ensemble of maybe only like 151 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,799 in the like it's no spoilers, but I think like we're near as only 152 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,919 in this for even ten minutes feels like a stretch, right, I would 153 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:18,039 say, like she's a red yeah, so, but even Game of Thrones 154 00:09:18,039 --> 00:09:22,080 you would get that right where sometimes you would see like seriously for an episode, 155 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,440 like one scene for an episode and that's it and she was gone. 156 00:09:24,519 --> 00:09:26,720 So they're gonna spread that out. But yeah, I think there's some intriguing 157 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,600 stuff and definitely the uh the war started in Man, it's gonna it's not 158 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:33,039 gonna go well. It's gonna go well for us as viewers, but as 159 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,120 to watch, it's gonna go very poorly, and already lots of scheming between 160 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:41,320 both sides, both sides are cracking. So that's what I was impressed within 161 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,240 the trailer when we got year or a couple months ago, nine years ago, 162 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,000 a couple months ago, and then when I talked about newscuys and now 163 00:09:48,039 --> 00:09:50,240 with this episode where it's like it is like House Black versus House Green, 164 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,200 but then even within those houses there's multiple problems and multiple factions working against each 165 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,399 other, and it's really just like a complete miss And yeah, they kind 166 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:05,080 of who fucked us up? You can argue for Sarah's you know, Allison, 167 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:07,120 you can argue, we'ner who knows? But Amon who knows. But 168 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:11,200 we'll get into anything else nonspores, Nope, Okay, so we're gonna go 169 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,480 into spoilers. So if you've not seen the episodes about now and then come 170 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:16,720 back we have. If not, we're gonna get into it right now. 171 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:22,399 So we'll be right back and we're back. So I feel like, kind 172 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:24,679 of like the Boys, I feel like the best way to go is characteris, 173 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,240 and I feel like characteris. I want to start with Wener just because, 174 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,919 like we said, there's not much there the whole episode. She's i'd 175 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:37,720 say she's in three scenes and two maybe four and three out of those four 176 00:10:37,799 --> 00:10:39,840 scenes are her grieving for the loss of her son, as she should be. 177 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,240 Right at this point, it was just talking houses, seeing who is 178 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:46,639 behind who. War hadn't really started. There wasn't even an attack or anything 179 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:52,879 but Aimen. Again in last season, the Dragon kind of went into business 180 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:56,120 for himself, but at the same time Amon didn't have to like be following 181 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,039 him and trying to scare him or you know, so it's like it's Amon's 182 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:01,919 fault one hund percent he go a little cocky and stuff, but also you 183 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:03,519 know what happened. She was just there to confirm the death and look very 184 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,240 sad, not trying to be little that she did a great or they did 185 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,159 a great job, Emma RC. I think they were phenomenal in this for 186 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,559 those small times they were, and then the other time. Really enjoyed the 187 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,600 scene when her eldest son came back and he's just trying to give the progress 188 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,679 report of the war but can'ton kind of breaks down and we got like a 189 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:28,720 classic Targarian funeral with the fire and everything. So I hope that next episode 190 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:31,879 she has more of a presence. I have no issues with this here because 191 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:33,279 I feel like there has to be a morning. You show that loss, 192 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:35,919 you show the anger, you show she why she does want to strikeout. 193 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:39,159 So I think everything was aces here, But I do hope next episode she's 194 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:43,159 interacting with a bit more people. But what do you think about Runier's return 195 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,720 here? Yeah, it was just I mean, we're we're still trying to 196 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:54,799 feel what's what's happening and the emotions of this that fallout that occurred in that 197 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:56,879 finale of season one, and so I feel like everything that she's feeling, 198 00:11:56,919 --> 00:12:01,080 that's how we are feeling. Is the audience too, we just felt years 199 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:07,720 ago. Yeah, yeah, we've been reading longer than she has. So 200 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,360 yeah, I think that it's it's just fun. I didn't need her to 201 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:13,360 be guns blazing at the at the council tables, just call the shots full 202 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,759 of rage all that kind of stuff. I could feel her rage, and 203 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,320 those scenes of her just standing there on like overlooking the beach, just she's 204 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,840 she looks just war torn kind of already and she's just she's she's pissed. 205 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:28,240 But even then it's sad. Why do you think I know why? Because 206 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:31,919 of aim and everything? But is there do you think it? Is it 207 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,519 the same of getting Aiman is like starting a war or do you think there's 208 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:39,519 a difference of her wanting Aimen but not saying she wants to go to war, 209 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,039 because she didn't say that right. She said she wanted aim And dead. 210 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:43,919 She didn't say, like, let's go to war, let's kill the 211 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:46,639 the you know, house of Green. It was just like a sun for 212 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:50,279 son. Do you think the aim and thing meant we're going to war or 213 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,480 do you think she really just wanted specifically him and then kind of recalculate after. 214 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,039 I think the main thing is just to get him, and if you 215 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,559 gotta go to war to get him, then that's what's gonna happen. Like 216 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:07,000 there's nothing that's gonna be getting in your way to get to get to him. 217 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,639 I mean, he's he's chop liver. He's done. Is he done? 218 00:13:11,799 --> 00:13:15,480 I think I think it's gonna be for a little bit until he's done. 219 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:16,879 You know, he's well, it will be a little bit. He's 220 00:13:16,919 --> 00:13:22,440 not done yet, but it's it's pending, it's in transaction. I was 221 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:24,399 quite worry, be worried, but not quite worried. I didn't think they're 222 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,320 gonna kill him off, because damon, I think would be my favorite character. 223 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,399 But Aiman is my like he's easily my Ah, that's tough. I 224 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:35,320 don't know. Barnier is great there. I'll just say top three. I 225 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,200 don't want to rank them. We'll say that for the end of the show. 226 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,240 But Riniera, Damon, and Aimin they're my favorites because aim and we 227 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:45,159 talk about last year. He's just like so like laser focused and he's scary 228 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:48,399 in this different way. And I'm also just liking the actor because he was 229 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,440 such a different type of character in Uh Saltburn, Like this is this nerdy, 230 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,320 little genius guy. I remember he was in there. He's always from 231 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,559 the beginning, so I like to see like how much range he has. 232 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:01,080 So I was like, man, if they kill off this character, like 233 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,919 like the rest of the world, right, we're all waiting for him and 234 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,360 Damon to eventually fight, Like I feel like that's gonna be like the Monoi 235 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,600 mono uncle versus Nephew last season rewatching it. There's so many times they're just 236 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,840 staring at each other and they never pull a sword, but they're just like 237 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:16,440 way to make a move. So if he was gonna die, I would 238 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,639 have been disappointed. I actually thought high Tower was gonna go because they last 239 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:24,840 time, the guys they what happens is and we're probably going to Damon just 240 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:28,759 everyone at Dragonstone. She says that. So Damon puts on his like dark 241 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,360 kermit hood and he's he's going over there and he's making a deal, which 242 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:33,840 I thought, Man, he's at King's Landing, very risky, like I 243 00:14:33,879 --> 00:14:37,279 know that she wants him, but like if you get caught or lost, 244 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,399 now they all takes this one person and they have lost Damon, and that 245 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:43,320 I think is not the time. But either way, he pays like these 246 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:48,120 rat catchers and another guard half money big sum to like pay off all their 247 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,200 debts, half the money before, then half the money after to get Aimen. 248 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:54,519 And when they transition, they were going into the tower. Aimon is 249 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:58,919 having a meeting with High Tower Auto, So I thought it was gonna be 250 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,879 a thing where like they go to kill tell him something happens, but then 251 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:05,080 they kill High Tower instead. Because I also, I really like, you 252 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,440 know, the lizard rise Iron, but like he was mostly in all season 253 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,879 one, so it's the thing of like I could see that character going and 254 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:16,360 we already know his trajectory, right, the creepy guy with the limp is 255 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:18,440 gonna get him out as the hand like we and you know, and that's 256 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,600 a good thing about the show. It's not like it's predictable, but it's 257 00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:24,600 a good thing. Like his days at the hand or number. Would you 258 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:28,960 agree, I would say so, I mean, he's well game. What 259 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,759 I like about Game of Thrones is you have all of these characters that we 260 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:37,519 we come to really enjoy learning about their stories and their development in that first 261 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:41,159 season, and slowly but surely, these characters all fade away and it's like 262 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,039 a next generation. The younger characters grow up in the show and then they 263 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,679 take over. Now we've we didn't have any major time jumps like we have 264 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,799 had in House of Dragon occurring Game of Thrones from what I can remember, 265 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,960 so I think just like months or weeks, but nothing that kid's growing up 266 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,320 to adults and stuff exactly. So in this sense, I feel like, 267 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,840 okay, he's they've jumped already exponentially by a few years, and so these 268 00:16:04,919 --> 00:16:07,600 new characters are going to be kind of filling in that void. And I 269 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,759 think once you eliminate him, it's just going to create such a dynamic. 270 00:16:12,799 --> 00:16:18,519 He's the only one amongst all these characters. That's really trying to I feel 271 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:22,200 like, look at it from a tactical situation, because I mean, the 272 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,559 king is he's a goofball. He's immature. Yeah, he's not supposed to 273 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,799 be king. Yeah no, no, no, definitely not. And Allison 274 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:33,360 does, I mean she she's she doesn't carry it, but she's having she's 275 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:36,639 emostally compromised too though, right because he even said, like that's a tough 276 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:38,960 thing of like she was best friends with Raniera, and even then she knows 277 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,600 that Vissari's wouldn't want like his grandkids, his brother and daughter all killed, 278 00:16:44,679 --> 00:16:48,519 right, so were her high Tower is very much in like he's a clinical 279 00:16:48,559 --> 00:16:51,360 looking at this, like if we want to survive, these people have to 280 00:16:51,399 --> 00:16:55,200 die, and he we like they should talk about that Multipon's episode. He's 281 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,000 throwing so much shade at her any chance he gets, even though like she 282 00:16:57,159 --> 00:17:00,679 is right like Aiman is to blame for some of this, but he's like, 283 00:17:00,679 --> 00:17:02,960 oh, yeah, we would have handled this so much better. That 284 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,079 Davesaria's passed away and obviously we'll get that conversation. But I think he looks 285 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,880 at the moment, I think Aiman's similar to that extent. I think there's 286 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,279 still little emotion because he would rather be king. But the same NIGHTE like 287 00:17:14,279 --> 00:17:17,440 he's kind of accepted. Even at the end of last season he hint said 288 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,319 that he'd like to But well, I guess we don't know now because I 289 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:23,240 was gonna say before he couldn't be king because there's a son, but there 290 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:27,359 is no longer a sun Air. So technically if Eggon were to die, 291 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:33,200 would go to Aimin, which can make things interesting as far as their dynamic 292 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:37,240 there, but imperium formally blue Wolf, I like that you got a prince 293 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:40,599 thing going on there to be fair? Was that not merciful only to end 294 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,480 the sun? If my son ended the way he was, I would have 295 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:45,960 ended both kids as revenge, not just want to go full areas mad king 296 00:17:47,319 --> 00:17:49,880 burn them all. So I guess I kind of get it's tough, right 297 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,920 because in the real world, I don't know, that's maybe not a conversation 298 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,319 I want to have, like somewhere to kill, like here you go kill 299 00:17:56,319 --> 00:17:59,759 all their kids. So looking at from a Game of Thrones out was a 300 00:17:59,799 --> 00:18:03,519 dreg in perspective to me, it's almost like they still won't be political. 301 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,000 So if word goes throughout the world, right, King's Landing, that hey, 302 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:12,160 Ranieri's son got killed, but she took one of their sons. I 303 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,960 think people would look at that as like a political that's fair, Like it 304 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:18,200 is a son for a son, So I feel like that is kind of 305 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,400 a well you did it, so they do it back. I think if 306 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,039 she were to go full you know, kill a bunch of people at King's 307 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,440 Landing, kill everybody, kill all these shows that had nothing to do with 308 00:18:29,519 --> 00:18:32,759 it, and even then that's what's gonna be the different dynamic because I think 309 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:36,480 if she would have killed Amon again, she'd get that pass of well, 310 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:38,880 that guy killed her son, so like that's all fair in love of war, 311 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,359 right, but now you killed a child in its crib. Also the 312 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,200 one high Tower, the one person house of Green that has literally nothing to 313 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,079 do about this war. She's talking about her bugs, she's talking about rats. 314 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,160 She's like, but she's not done anything, right, She's guilty, 315 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,759 not at all. She doesn't she's not been shown to have like an evil 316 00:18:57,839 --> 00:19:02,359 heart, the princess here now the queen. So like that's the way war 317 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,519 is like the one person and the two kids that have had nothing to do. 318 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:10,039 On the High Tower, Targarian side to prepel this war are the ones 319 00:19:10,079 --> 00:19:11,920 to get punished. But that's where I think it's gonna be different. And 320 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,400 even then I feel like, not that they wouldn't be mad, but I 321 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:21,480 almost feel like if al like if Amon got killed Alison, then they might 322 00:19:21,519 --> 00:19:23,240 be mad, but they might just have to accept it as well, like 323 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:26,119 it's kind of a trade, like he screwed up so and maybe there would 324 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,279 be a way that you could build a bridge. But now that it's the 325 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,960 air and also a young child, I think that's where we'll make both sides. 326 00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:37,079 You know. I think obviously they could say it's an accent, but 327 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,119 still I think it's gonna get things a lot more rasht up now if it 328 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,279 was just Aiman, you know, yeah, absolutely. Oh you touched on 329 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,480 something very very interesting there that I want to follow a girl the high towers 330 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:52,559 Aim in the air. Oh good lord, I'm not gonna remember it. 331 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Son for a son I fry. Oh oh yeah, I think a lot. 332 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,160 Yeah, along those lines of Sun first Sun, I was actually surprised 333 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:11,400 that Rinierro was not holding any kind of I guess kind of anger towards the 334 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:18,000 house Brathian for just kind of allowing that kind of chaos to unfold there because 335 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,839 that could come though, that could come later, right, and I hope 336 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,720 it does. And maybe that would play into why I or I don't know 337 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:26,880 the backstory, and I know that the books definitely cover the sort of thing, 338 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,279 but I feel like, hey, that would make a sense towards a 339 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:34,559 stepping stone as to why Robert Brathian leads a rebellion against the Targarians down the 340 00:20:34,599 --> 00:20:38,880 road whenever that happens, right, because maybe the Brathians are looked at as 341 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,160 being kind of you know, you guys, look what you did. You 342 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:48,000 fucked over the house Targarian here. So but that's different though, because they're 343 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:49,960 both house Stargarians. So which one would be going after? Right, because 344 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,519 technically the people on the throne are the Targarians. True, his daughter is 345 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,519 betrothed to aim In one of them, now, so that's what's going to 346 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:02,680 be interesting. Now, does he turn or do they just get them all 347 00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:03,680 up? Like, I don't know if we're gonna even get that far, 348 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:07,160 but that is the current situation that Amy is supposed to marry one of his 349 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:12,240 daughters. So yeah, so I don't know, Yeah, we can let's 350 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,200 see, Yeah, we'll probably circle back, but uh yeah, Imperian up, 351 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,960 that's a good one to bring up. Kristen. Christian Kristen called Christian 352 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,920 Cole gets mad because he is Ranier's whore. Then literally one season later, 353 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,759 he is Alison's horror. And that's what I liked about talking about threads that 354 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:30,839 were picked up is the whole season once they did the age jump, you 355 00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:34,319 could feel attention between between Sir Cole and Allison. But I liked because that's 356 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,119 one of the reasons she had a big issue with Ranier that Raynier just couldn't 357 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,880 fulfill her duty and not cheat on her husband or yet. So I like 358 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,640 that Allison still hit the high ground. But the second Visaries is uh gone. 359 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,480 She's getting her sald tossed by mister Sir Cole there and uh yeah, 360 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:55,279 but he's like a perfect bitch character, Like he's the bitch character you want 361 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:57,359 to see kind of die because you know, and I guess, like, 362 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,079 but we'll see though, because he's lying because he's not supposed to have sex 363 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,039 with anybody as a man of the cloth. But I think his issue with 364 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,799 Raniro was not trying to defense or co Sir Cole, but trying to get 365 00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:14,920 in his mindset she was gonna be married having kids and he didn't want to 366 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,759 be the other man. We're technically taking out his nightws. He's not doing 367 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:23,200 that though with her right, her husband's dead, she's a widow, she's 368 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,039 a free woman, she's single, he's single, So he's not a horror 369 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,119 technically in that sense. I think in his head canon. That's how I 370 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,559 can see him justifying that. Now, if they revealed that they've been getting 371 00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:37,920 on since Vesaris has been alive, then yes, but I don't think they 372 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,559 were because last season they never showed them have sex, and now they've showed 373 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,400 them have sex twice after Visarius is dead. So I think that's his way 374 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:51,279 of getting through that is he's not a whore technically because he can be with 375 00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:56,480 her. Mabe think about how close this is after though Visarius' death right, 376 00:22:56,519 --> 00:22:59,359 and she says or something, yeah, and she said no, not again. 377 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,680 This can't happen again. So when she said that, I think, 378 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,640 Okay, they absolutely have been doing this, probably for the past the past 379 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,440 little bit, and really I thought that was the first time, So that's 380 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,119 why I thought she was again. I took it as that they've they that 381 00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:15,279 whole experience between them, Like I felt like, no, these guys, 382 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,519 they know what they're doing with each other. I feel like, Okay, 383 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:21,319 this has been in the works for all chat let us know. Do you 384 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,400 think it was the first time or multiple times they made chat let us know. 385 00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:27,319 I'm tyl and I are divided, so uh. And that led to 386 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:33,920 a really good conversation because it's so funny because Sir Cole trained Aiman, and 387 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,920 he trained his bass and everything, and I feel like Amon was trying really 388 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,759 hard to get Sir Cole and the like Allison like she's not with it, 389 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:47,799 like she's not right to be helping us lead get to done. Circle just 390 00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:49,200 keeps trying to make the excuse like oh, she's got a great heart and 391 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:52,920 she's looking out for the best of you. But AMA's like, no, 392 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,279 no, I don't think that's the way it should go. So it's funny, 393 00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:56,839 and I don't obviously I don't think he knows what's going on. So 394 00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:00,759 I did like that dynamic of a and almost like bumping on the should like 395 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:03,680 yeah, my mom, like she's not great hey, and calls in like 396 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:10,599 this very awkward situation, like what does he do so yeah, I enjoyed 397 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,720 that dynamic and then what a what a terrible way for Uh, obviously the 398 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,559 secrets out and bud Girl's not gonna probably spread it. But yeah, after 399 00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:19,799 the kid was killed, she killed, she took the other child, ran 400 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,920 right in her mom's bedroom as she's a on top of heir Cole and then 401 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,559 says that they killed the boy and that's gonna it's gonna lead to some bad 402 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,240 And how do you feel near Nearer and Damon, especially Damen, like they 403 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,640 Dame specifically didn't say like the guy's like, oh well he said son for 404 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,960 a son. It felt like them justifying it. Damon didn't just say son 405 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,119 for a son like they specifically. He laid it out. He's like he's 406 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,559 blonde, he's got one eye like they They didn't just say, oh, 407 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:49,559 go take on the kids. They laid out, hey, we want you 408 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,359 to get aiming, and they didn't. So do you think what do they 409 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,759 think? Damon and them are not that they're gonna kill these guards, but 410 00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,400 do you think they're upset and mad about this whole situation or do you think 411 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,279 they're kind of like, oh, that's a bummer, but at the same 412 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,279 time, whatever you know, Oh yeah, you know, it's bummer. 413 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:10,680 We might we fucked up. Uh uh, it's it's a pickle, I 414 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,759 mean, And that's I just feel like that's just Game of Thrones. To 415 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:21,920 me, this whole scenario feels like uh brand Stark creeping into the window on 416 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,119 UHC and Jamie and then Jamie just fucking pushes him out the window. Right. 417 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,799 It's just it feels like it's just this is exactly like one of those 418 00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:32,880 situations and and Game of Thrones. That's just like, fuck, I can't 419 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,799 believe this is going on. And yeah, the fact that like they didn't 420 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:41,079 even bother to look, I mean, maybe it was dark, maybe they 421 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:45,200 didn't really identify it properly, and they just, I don't know, they 422 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,200 were just looking for a male targarian at this point with white hair. I 423 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,799 think that's the only thing that they were looking for. And they were panicking 424 00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:53,240 because they're like, oh, we're not supposed to be here, right, 425 00:25:53,279 --> 00:26:02,359 and yeah, getting sloppy intense, So they obviously were just the confer anything 426 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,640 at that point. I think Damon won't care. He'll still be mad that 427 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,880 it's not Aimen, but he'll still want to kill me, be like well, 428 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,880 whatever, we send a message or I think'nia will have some more 429 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,680 pain about that. And I did really really like the touch of often when 430 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,039 they were doing the funeral, Allison was like letting candles for the people that 431 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:26,160 died, and she did write a light one for Raniera's son. So I 432 00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:30,839 like that because again it shows that again Alison. Last season, Vassaris thought 433 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,960 he was talking to Rania told her to do something, and it was actually 434 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,480 Allsen, so she mistoked that, but in her mind she's not lying. 435 00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:41,400 Vissaris told her to make Eggon king right, they both have a child named 436 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,839 Eggon. But she thought she's doing the right thing. And again it is 437 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,319 tough to believe her. As he was on his deathbed, no one was 438 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,480 around, and you're saying this, So I feel like she, even if 439 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,279 she feels she's right and that was true, there's probably still a part of 440 00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:56,519 her that thinks maybe I even shouldn't have said anything. You know, I 441 00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,960 could just let her because if there probably would have been some tension and maybe 442 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,880 this could have all these happened. But I wonder what the what if scenario 443 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,680 is if We'renier does just become the queen. Now they always said, oh, 444 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,880 they'll be in fighting because it's a woman taking the crown, but that 445 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,720 could also be the start of change, So there has to be some weigh 446 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,400 on that that if I didn't say that, her child would still be there. 447 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,079 And at this point now it's just her child. So it's like this 448 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,440 person that was my former best friend and I still want to give the chance 449 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,640 life. Now I'm responsible for the death or a son. This is awful. 450 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,119 Now it's gonna be two full. It's like, now you're kind of 451 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,519 responsible the death of your ground child, right, Like you didn't do it 452 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:36,359 directly, but your actions led to this. And I'm excited to see and 453 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,440 curious. It sounds it sounds weird being excited, but to hear and just 454 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,880 see the reaction of the the greenhouse and auto and everything, it's gonna be 455 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,240 Yeah, it's not. It's not gonna go well because this is like a 456 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,759 the other one was a child too, It's like a toddler, right, 457 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,759 so yeah, yeah, yeah, Supermanma says Alson is such a wonderfully emotionally 458 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,960 conflicted character. I love how much they add to her character. And here 459 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,559 Concarris in the book, the MVP of the episode, I think I would 460 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,160 agree because she's got lots of layers going on and stuff. So no, 461 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,039 I agree with that one Alison, because Alison is like, she's not the 462 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,880 Circe villain where she's not doing it just for power. Circe always felt like 463 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,240 she was using her family by proxy to get power. I do feel like 464 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,759 Alison does care about others and her family. She wants to win, but 465 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:26,160 I feel like she does. Like we're talking about the Otto, she's still 466 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,079 very you know, she says like, even if it, you know, 467 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,519 ends with people dying or disappearing, but it's not that she says like that's 468 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:36,519 not something I want to happen, it's just knowing it's gonna happen. So 469 00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:38,880 I think she's a very layered character. I enjoy that as far as well. 470 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,160 I guess antagonists up to you. I'm definitely I'm definitely team Black, 471 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,440 but uh so she's my antagonist. I guess yeah, I'm team Black as 472 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,799 well. I'm waiting for the next time here she's gonna whip her socks off 473 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:53,640 and we're gonna get one of those nice scenems kind of because it seems like 474 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,559 that guy still doing her dirty work, right, Like oh, I did 475 00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:02,559 a whole interview of the staff, and I replaced with people I killed. 476 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:04,920 The guilty people don't share the same their Yeah, just killed them, Like 477 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,720 what if some of those were friends and they were innocent like that, And 478 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,079 that happened multiple times last season where he did just kill him and she's like, 479 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:14,960 that's not exactly what I want to do, and yeah, if people 480 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,119 don't remember they he would do a favor for her and she would like show 481 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,759 his feet and then eventually he would touch himself to her feet. He's at 482 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,960 foot fetish. That's fine, but now I'm very curious, like because he 483 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,359 clearly wants to be the hand, right, that's what he's trying. I 484 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,079 feel like with egg On, and he's trying to already say like oh yeah, 485 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,400 like you're you're king, Like he was a very good man, but 486 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,279 he kind of had a reputation of being kind of weakly right, like not 487 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,920 wanting to have a confrontation, not wanting to do wars, and it's he 488 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,119 kind of insitumated like oh yeah, Auto, your grandfather really gone his head, 489 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,519 like and he was his hand and now he's your hand, so kind 490 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:52,519 of trying to show like what's the type of king you're going to become, 491 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,160 because that's something I'm going a little tangent here. But that's what took me 492 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,480 off guard was we thought, okay, he got the crown. He is 493 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:00,960 a shit ki character. We thought this is gonna be kind of Jeoffrey number 494 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,359 two, right, But he is to an extent because I think he's probably 495 00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:07,519 give me an asshole. He's gonna be violent. They've shown me for that. 496 00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,559 He's like abused women physically and sexually. But what I was surprised is 497 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,039 when he sat down for his first uh oh god, what were petitions? 498 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,240 I was surprised how much he was And I'm not saying, oh, he's 499 00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:22,759 a good guy, pay you back and yeah, and pay people before and 500 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,519 everything. I did not think that's what they were gonna go with that character. 501 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:29,519 I thought they were gonna sit down and he was just gonna be Jeffrey 502 00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:32,839 two point of like shitty to everybody, right, But he wasn't. At 503 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,039 first. He was trying to be like a good king. But that is 504 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,680 a problem with a honest he was not preparing to be king. So he's 505 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,559 just not good at this because like, sure, give the guy a sheep 506 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,400 and now that dragons have no food, like, okay, sure give it 507 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,920 this goal, but then what happens if something else comes up? So I 508 00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:52,799 liked that kind of little note on his character that he wasn't just Okay, 509 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,720 he's gonna be a creepy asshole the whole time. I think he still will 510 00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,519 be for the most part. But again, that is that's what I was 511 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,480 trying to say with the guy I can't remember his hand, that his name, 512 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:06,759 the guy that has the broken or the stubble foot. He was using 513 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:11,200 that as an example right where three times he wanted to do something as king 514 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,759 and Auto shot him a look or advised him otherwise. So I think he's 515 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:19,920 gonna keep saying that Otto's really holding him back and show the examples of he's 516 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,839 not really calling the shots like Auto and his mama. And I do think 517 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,160 Auto will uh not be the hand definitely. I don't even know by the 518 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,559 midway point, but for sure by the end of the season, I think 519 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,640 the other guy will be the hand. Do you agree or do you think 520 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,039 that? I think so. And I think he was implying too well. 521 00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:40,240 They didn't confirm it that he had leverage over Alice said because when Alison came 522 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,759 out of the meeting. He's he approaches her obviously and he's like, oh, 523 00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:48,960 you know, your assistant said you were predisposed. Yeah, like he 524 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,599 knows what he knows what Cole is doing to her. Yeah, And that's 525 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:55,359 why I wanted too. Is the hand or him any more power? I 526 00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:59,799 wonder is that just like a gonna have bad effects on Allison or is this 527 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,200 guy also gonna be like I gotta get rid of Circle, you know, 528 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:07,160 Like and he's the type of guy that if Circle just screws up a little 529 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,519 bit or does something or he's gonna indirectly get him killed. So I like 530 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:15,640 that he does that because it is just like he's very slimy. He's he's 531 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:20,319 like the slime version of little Finger. A little Finger would do this and 532 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,559 he was slammy, but he's way more sly and cool upon it, where 533 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:27,039 this guy's just so up front of your indisposed and you're like, he's just 534 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,680 laying it out like, oh, you were getting rammed and I know it, 535 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,559 and you know and they're but they're not dating or anything like that, 536 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,880 but uh, Superman Mike says he wants to be like more than Joffrey, 537 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440 which I agree with Imperian says, it's not that Jeffrey did not care if 538 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,119 he was liked, and Jeffrey was so crazy to lod that he thought he 539 00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:44,400 has a right to be loved, so he never tried. And I agreet 540 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,359 that too, But I greet the initial that I think this guy kind of 541 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,079 wants to be king. He's not had a calling he but he is still 542 00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,079 gonna be shooting. Cause that whole thing at the meeting with the son and 543 00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:58,279 the son's fucking with the lancer's little like area and he's like egging a'm on, 544 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:00,759 So it's okay, it's that's gonna be so thing, Which that's something 545 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,039 we never got to see, right, was Geoffrey with kids, So that's 546 00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:07,839 what's gonna be curious if also this guy is unfortunately down by one kid peering 547 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:14,480 ass. I never understood why Otto's risking or why Auto risk starting a civil 548 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:16,440 war with making an egg on king. If he wanted a high tower of 549 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,839 blood on the throne, why did he not just marry Jase to Helena would 550 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400 have been easier, well, because I remember that's what they wanted to do 551 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:30,079 originally was in the mid season point you won't remember, say up in the 552 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,240 mid season point where a lot of people were questioning, you know, the 553 00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:37,759 Bastards and the lineage of her nearest kids. She had pitched their kids to 554 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,559 marry Alison inversaries, but they had turned that down and Alison had some sort 555 00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:45,240 of convlt like it's kind of like a rap backed in a corner. So 556 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,519 they didn't take it, and that's why eventually were nearest kids went to go 557 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,960 marry the the Valerians, that's why they're together. So I think it's just 558 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:59,160 because I guess you're right where technically it was like, yeah, Helena would 559 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,480 I'm on the throne. I think it's just that he like it's it sounds 560 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,039 bad, but not really because in that time I feel like he wanted one 561 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:13,000 of his male grandkids to like he wanted the He wanted a male grandchild to 562 00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:15,679 be there the proper way in back there. I think he just wanted the 563 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:21,039 power and he wanted I think in the direct way where the same way as 564 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:22,519 Damon right. He we've seen a little bit the end of last season. 565 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:27,199 I think more this season where it's gonna crack him, that he might end 566 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,920 up being king. But he's never king because he's king, he's king by 567 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,800 proxy. It would be Rnaera as queen and then whoever she picks as her 568 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,519 partner to be king. So it's the same way as Helena. Sure she 569 00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:40,039 would have been queen and may if they had a son, that son, 570 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:44,480 the High Tower son would become the king. But it's still like Helene is 571 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,480 there by proxy or just by by choice, by choice, it's not necessity. 572 00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:53,119 Where at the Vesari's first born with Venerian, then it would have been 573 00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:57,880 her kids like they were the rightful Era. So I think it's just I 574 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,760 think it's just a power trip with Otto and to have that power and you 575 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,920 know, everything like that. So mm hmm. Yeah. And I think 576 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,480 Auto really put all his chips on the fact that he was able to control 577 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,360 Alison twhich he did, yeah, but obviously she got older and then Visara's 578 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,679 side and he wasn't able to control the grandkids as well as he thought. 579 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,679 And you even get that that tense moment with him and aimand right, yeah, 580 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,159 so who before I did not think last season there was much tension there. 581 00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:25,599 So now it's just because he's like, oh, why are you making 582 00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:31,280 plans without us and stuff, so already yeah, yeah who Colin shots like 583 00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:35,719 we need to do this stuff, this stuff, and yeah, Auto's getting 584 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:37,320 getting kind of freaked out. But I think that's another reason too, why 585 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:43,719 something will happen to Auto, you think so, I think so, I 586 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,599 got a I'm just wondering, like how far we're gonna get here? But 587 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,960 like, can we see Auto pass away? Because it's it's again, it's 588 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,000 foot fetish guy. Is I remember the family that's like, you know what, 589 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,800 like grandfather, I'm done with you? And then does something. Yeah, 590 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,159 I don't know if he's gonna die because if you difect this one in 591 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,880 an episode, I really hope not because I really like Auto. I love 592 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,760 Ry, like I've talked about it, He's a great character actor. So 593 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:14,199 I think I would prefer Eggon to ask him for his pin back because I 594 00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:16,199 think there's way more drama there and I'd like to see because I still would 595 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,960 like to see Auto scheming, and that's one thing I think they start realized, 596 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,840 and that's where I think Auto would realize it. The Lasser character, 597 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,159 I think was starting to realize it where they were fine for this coup, 598 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,360 they were fine to make him the king, because that's the lineage that's always 599 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,239 men. But I feel like there's a few people starting to be like man 600 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,239 some buyers remorse, so maybe we should like we shouldn't have done that. 601 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,320 We don't agree with Nia, but she wouldn't be like, ah, like 602 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,840 yeah, give him a piggyback ride, like and I feel like we're near 603 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,960 it. Same thing, like they said Vincei's was like much more cautious, 604 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:51,920 right, and he tried to be a man of the people. And that's 605 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,280 where I think Rnera would have tried to go that way and not saying Aggon 606 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,119 wasn't by just mean like I think Reniera would have had a better grip on 607 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,039 our grasp on the politics and what to do and how to do it. 608 00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:07,000 She would have had like Damon, who has politics or that way or history 609 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,199 of that politics were egg on the whole show. He's just been like getting 610 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:15,000 drunk and like having sex with prostitutes and everything. Like he's not at any 611 00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:16,880 bit to be kings. That's why I wonder, or I wonder if it's 612 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,639 something like auto, I don't think he would like is he gonna try and 613 00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:23,519 plan like Egon's death so he get aim in there, but like we said, 614 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:27,000 Amen and him don't seem to be in the best spot either. So 615 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,400 that's the best thing. That's where Game thrones with his best. That's why 616 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:32,199 if you don't watch the Boys, we talk about check out the Boys. 617 00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:37,840 When you have these even just these three groups of characters of Alison, Auto 618 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,800 and Eggon, it's like there's so many different variables of how which way could 619 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,360 go, and all of them they've made them all made sense because it's not 620 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:52,199 just random. You could see it'd be a like a very tough blow. 621 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,000 It's his grandfather or its grandchild. But I could see some multiverse where he 622 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,719 does decide how we got to take egg On out, so Aimen could be 623 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,760 the right But then, like I said, there's problem's egg On or aim 624 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,119 And so that's why I love There's so many motivations and they all feel justified 625 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:12,880 right now other route, you know. So yeah, let's see here. 626 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,679 So we talked about Auto. We talked about the guy I want to be 627 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,679 the hand to. Yeah, that was all he was there. He was 628 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,239 being creepy. Alse I'm trying to think there's anything we missed. She did 629 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,360 talk about how the the Boys are starting to trust her less because she won 630 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,199 Auto sawp like talking down to her and bringing up again that you know, 631 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,079 might have been her issue that started the war. So that's gonna be interesting 632 00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:36,880 because that's something again where when we saw them, they were, for the 633 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,280 most part, would listen to her. So bug lady, not so much 634 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,480 trying to think, is there anything else you have on Alson or any touch 635 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,880 point we haven't talked about. I don't think so her in Circle, does 636 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,480 Circle make it out the season? I think he'll make it out and in 637 00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:58,400 season three he'll be someone else's whore. Really, i'd love to see him 638 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,320 go back to Vernier somehow, go back. I don't think. I don't 639 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,760 think that'll happen. I mean there's always a chance. There's always a chance, 640 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,360 I'm telling you because Damon's gonna fuck up. Damon's getting worse and worse 641 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,119 because he I thought for sure he was gonna have sex with the White Snake 642 00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,440 Lady or something again because they used to get it on season one, and 643 00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:20,840 he's like Auto, which is so funny because they dislike each other. But 644 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,480 I feel like any chance Damon has an opportunity to say like, yeah, 645 00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:31,360 Ronewer's just very uh no, like she's very uh preoccupied right now. He 646 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,039 uses different words, but he almost just try to insinuate, like that's why 647 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:38,199 I love his auntie. The Princess was just like she just lost the son, 648 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,880 like she gets some time to grieve. But he's almost using that as 649 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,400 like a clutch of oh, well, she's she's mourning her son, so 650 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,840 this is weak and she's not doing the right thing, you know. So 651 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,360 that's where maybe when she ordered the deaf and Amn maybe thought, Okay, 652 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,280 we're getting a little more. But that was at the end of last years. 653 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,719 In the last episode, he did like put his hands on her. 654 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,480 So I feel like he's slowly starting to slip because again multiple characters said like, 655 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,199 well, you're not the king, so you can't make that call. 656 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,480 And I think he's just he's getting mad. I feel like him and Auto 657 00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,079 in the same position. Auto's getting mad because he feels like they should have 658 00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:15,400 striked earlier. I feel like Damon just feels like the more time they waste, 659 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,719 the more likely they're gonna lose. You know. He's just like begging 660 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,840 to get this war starred and everything. So they're kind of the same coin 661 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,199 there. But I don't know what's gonna happen with the White Snake prostitute lady? 662 00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:29,519 If I know, she puts some feelers out there, but I don't 663 00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:30,920 know if she's still there, they send her back on boat, I don't 664 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:36,440 know. Yeah, everything's transactional for her, as we learned in this this 665 00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:39,159 episode. But you're right with with Damon, he's he's trying so hard just 666 00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:44,440 to kind of take care of business. And Princess. I can never say 667 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,960 her name, right, Rhinus, I never know. I think it's Rainus, 668 00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:52,599 Yeah, Rainus. Yeah. So like you're just you're flying doing your 669 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:57,679 patrols and you're just you're beat. You've just done like triple overtime and you 670 00:40:57,199 --> 00:40:59,920 you you're about to clock out in your boss. Yeah, we're going. 671 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:07,119 When we're landing, we've got two dragons like just too just ready to go, 672 00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:09,039 like when you were rather so wait back for Nier to come back to 673 00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:12,480 you. So there's three dragons, Like I just feel like if you're gonna 674 00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:15,320 because the kings landing is ready, obviously it was Aimons dragons, so it's 675 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,519 fine. But the second they saw a dragon, I'm not saying they would 676 00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:22,840 win. Like even look at what happens in Game of Thrones, the dragon 677 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,480 does even Wondering did a lot of damage at King's landing, right, so 678 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,079 it's like, no matter how big the buildings are, but they did have 679 00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:32,280 every guard ready, every fucking harpoon gun or whatever those things are called, 680 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,280 like they were ready for if a dragon comes, we gotta take it out. 681 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,360 So it's it. I feel like you would need that that third dragon. 682 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,199 So I think he's just he's just itching for fighting. We'll see. 683 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,159 Yeah, I don't think him and Rainier are going to be in a good 684 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:49,159 place come the uh the end of the season, because Damon just he kind 685 00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:52,800 of get obsessed with power there. So he's got a new dragon too, 686 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,239 right, because we saw it in the end of the last season. Yes 687 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,719 he does, Yeah he was. We didn't see that in this episode, 688 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,519 did we, No, we didn't. So I think it' supposed to be 689 00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:00,400 a biger one. I I think it's as big as one Amon has, 690 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,519 but it's still uh still big one because I think Amens is like the biggest 691 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,119 in the West Rows. Yeah, so I sure don't think there's any anything 692 00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:15,079 else with these these people on the dragon. So, oh that's what I 693 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:19,480 was gonna ask. So last season uh to like I can't remember his name 694 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,960 was. I think it's lit l Rooor or something. But the princess and 695 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,559 then the the sea captain of the Seer serpent whatever they think, the sea 696 00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:31,880 snake. Yeah, obviously their son was married to Raniera, and I don't 697 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,920 know if you remember they faked his death because he was gay and they weren't 698 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,360 really in love, yes, and he wanted to get out of there. 699 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,159 But then also Raniera wan to marry Damon for more power, and they're like, 700 00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:44,719 well, he has to be dead because in that culture, as her 701 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,800 being the queen, I don't think she could take on a second husband. 702 00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:50,159 So they still think because she they talked about it, right, the princess 703 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,559 talked about oh, like she found out death by a raven and even uh 704 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,719 Damon said to them like, oh and what would happen if you acted on 705 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,599 it? Pretty much? Isn't sending away like you would have killed us and 706 00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:01,960 we wouldn't the allies. Now do you think I don't think it'd be Damon 707 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,440 because I don't think Damon gives as much shit. But do you think Brenieri 708 00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:10,559 is gonna uh reveals at least her, if not both the parents that their 709 00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:15,079 son is alive, even if they can't go finally be with them. I 710 00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:19,000 just feel like with Brenier actually losing a child and a son, she might 711 00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:22,159 go man. For years, we made them think that their kid, we 712 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,360 killed their kid, and now I know that pain and just to relieve them 713 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,159 a little bit of hey, he's not here and you're never gonna see him 714 00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,719 again, but he did. He leave here like alive with his partner and 715 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,840 hopefully he's happy. Do you think we get there? Do you think they 716 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,559 take that to the grave, the faked death scenario. I think they'll bring 717 00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:42,400 that back in like season six. Oh my god. I don't think we'll 718 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,960 bring that back any anytime soon as I would like that. No, I 719 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,679 think that she just lost. You don't think she's gonna I think it's gonna 720 00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:51,360 happen next few episodes. She's gonna reveal them like we didn't do that, 721 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,599 and I feel really sorry that we thought. No, I don't think she'll 722 00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:58,719 go there. I think that her mind right now is just she's just set 723 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,400 on on aimed, and that's that's It's gonna change even more when she realizes 724 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,320 like, oh shit, the wrong one's dead, Like yeah, the fuck. 725 00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:12,840 So I think she's really like she's really got her attention and focus distracted 726 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,320 right now onto other things, and that that happened a while ago too, 727 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:20,559 right, So she's probably I think, put that in the past because she's 728 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,119 they haven't shown it, but it's still her son though, So I just 729 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:27,960 feel like that that's a oh yeah. But even though the fact that yes, 730 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:34,639 she was married to this guy and they had to bastard children together. 731 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,599 Yeah, uh, that was a long time ago, and I feel like 732 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:40,920 she definitely moved on because she's had kids with Damon. Right. We haven't 733 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,719 really seen these children, but just like I think they're like a baby and 734 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,119 two or three, Like they're both very tiny and stuff. Yeah, and 735 00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:54,159 she just had like want her latest birth didn't go so well either, right, 736 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,960 Yeah, she lost her son and miscarriage in the same episode. So 737 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,440 it was a very bad twenty to seventy two hours. Yeah, and that's 738 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,679 why I know they won't strike out because even some of those grandchildren are Damon's 739 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,000 kids, right, so it's like there's still some there. I'm gonna say 740 00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:13,760 it's gonna happen this season that Veranera will tell her or both of them the 741 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,000 sea serpent or whatever, the serpent king, what's his name? Snake snake? 742 00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,159 I don't know where I'm put in some other words, I think they'll 743 00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:28,840 find out just to strengthen the bond of war and appearances, which they told 744 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,639 about this last season. To be fair, I personally think Amen would be 745 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,360 a good king. He's smart, strown calculay and good warrior. And he 746 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,599 talked about last season where he's like he was always reading books about kings and 747 00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,519 history. But as we see in Game of Thrones, usually the person that 748 00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:44,519 should be on that throne is not the person that ends up there. So 749 00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:46,440 I agree he would be the king. But that's where I think you the 750 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,639 show would be almost less interesting because he would be a better king, and 751 00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,320 he'd makes smarter decisions, and maybe the al war would happen and all these 752 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,199 things. So even though he did, like I said, accidentally kill kid, 753 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,480 I do think he would be a better king there. So let's see, 754 00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:07,400 let's take another ad break and then we'll be right back. All right, 755 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,199 we are back. I had a point of where I wanted to go, 756 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,280 but I forgot. So you, oh, what was going on with 757 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,000 the sea snake in the Where do you think that's gonna go with the guy 758 00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,760 that hit their boat, got messed up their fixing, say this week, 759 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,599 and then he says, I saved you and I owe you a great debt. 760 00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:23,440 Do you have an idea where you think it's gonna go. I have 761 00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:29,159 no idea where that's gonna go. Intersexual? Well, you never know. 762 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,719 I mean, it just seems like this is kind of a new narrative that 763 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:37,960 was created. And I imagine that you have to have new stories obviously be 764 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,639 created at the start of the season here for for your show, and so 765 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,639 this just this feels like it because that's a new character. I haven't I 766 00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:49,679 don't recognize him from season less, you do, you know, he's definitely 767 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,039 just like oh you say, because we didn't even see the Seasnake gets saved. 768 00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:57,440 It was just on screen they like found him from battle or whatever, 769 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,239 and then it was like maybe gonna die. So we never saw any of 770 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,199 that stuff for him. So yeah, so here he is and he's just 771 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,960 like, I owe you in your pay great debt. And the guy's like, 772 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,239 oh, here's also this thing that came and he's like, oh, 773 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,599 I commissioned this year, and he's just like this guy's just like the he's 774 00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:19,480 just giving him his gifts, he's saving his lives, like he's just this 775 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,320 that's what I want character. Just in Game of Thrones, you never know 776 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,719 his son was also gay. So I just feel like they're gonna are they 777 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,599 gonna tie that? Not there so Mike, which I get it, I 778 00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:31,559 agree, but I discreet the same time, says, for the previous conversation 779 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:36,280 we had about the revealing uh their Sun being alive, now I would risk 780 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,039 the lions if Rnari has found u Rain has found out they lied about their 781 00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:45,480 dying or their Sun dying. I thought, I'm fifty to fifty on that 782 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,760 because I get that. But at the same time, they have an alliance 783 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,599 with them currently thinking they killed their son, So like that's where I like, 784 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,280 what is the best, what's the I don't know how that's the worst 785 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,599 scenario. They did lie, but they could also say it was his idea, 786 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,960 he wanted to go. So that's the thing of they are currently in 787 00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:09,440 alliance and they think that Damon Emerniera killed their son and they're still a lined. 788 00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:13,960 So I feel like the lie of hey, your son is still alive 789 00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:19,159 could strengthen it because it's like any doubt, any worry you'd had of could 790 00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:21,840 they turn? Can we trust them? Would go away with? Yeah, 791 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,440 sure they did lie, but at least it was to me, it's like 792 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:28,639 a good lie in a sense. You know, their son's happy, hopefully 793 00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:32,559 somewhere. So m So we'll see. Let's see. So we talked about 794 00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:37,639 Damien, talk about the Sea Snake, we talked about the King, we 795 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,599 talked about Auto, we talked about Sir Cole. Oh, is there anybody 796 00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:45,599 else or any other scenes were missing from this episode that we haven't covered yet. 797 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,400 Oh, those villagers tried to get that dragon wing and that didn't go 798 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,840 well for them. Yeah, bold, very bold of them. Yeah, 799 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:05,280 to do that. I can't think of anything else any other characters. Yeah, 800 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,039 No, we covered Auto. Yeah, let's see the Oh. Thoughts 801 00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:13,280 on the North and Kreagan Stark Oh yes, yeah, I like that. 802 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,519 I liked that they were kind of, you know, they're doing their prequel 803 00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:20,119 thing of insinuating there's stuff behind the wall, because the very first season did 804 00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:22,480 that too. But we don't often need to get too much because they're not 805 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,320 gonna fight the fucking Yeah, like, we don't eat that again. So 806 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,679 yeah, because I can't remember what other country or city they got online with 807 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,119 them? They got that and the House of Stark, And I know it 808 00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,840 makes sense because I personally feel like when we watch the show, the perspective 809 00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:42,199 is House of Black is they've done some bad things, but they are the 810 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,920 protagonists, are good guys in a sense, you could say. And I 811 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:50,199 feel like the Starks always kind of lay on the side of the viewers, 812 00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:52,519 you know. That's why I kind of like that in my opinion. So, 813 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,199 yeah, he got like two thousand men from him, and yeah, 814 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,679 yeah, fair enough. He was near in the beginning and I didn't know 815 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,719 he was one narrating and they're showing the Raven, so I think that's like 816 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,119 a insinuation brawn there, because obviously the raven kind of sees all and he 817 00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:10,440 could see through time and everything like that. So I thought it was like 818 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,000 a I thought it was a good enough opening scene. Honestly, I thought 819 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,400 that it was gonna start with something a bit more flashy, but it was 820 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,440 a bit more slower and that revealed the sun being dead because he gets note 821 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,760 by Raven. So I liked it, and I'm always down for Starks in 822 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,199 Winterville and the Wall, so I'm not sure how much we're gonna see them, 823 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,119 but yeah, it was good. But I was surprised it was the 824 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,480 very first thing of the show. Yeah, and I think it was. 825 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,719 I think it was clever to make it the like that that kind of like 826 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,559 opener there. It just really pulls you in and they know they know what 827 00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:45,360 the fandom really, i'd say, wants, and people want the Starks. 828 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,519 People really like the Starks, and I mean there's so much story that goes 829 00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,519 on there and so they kind of give us this this little tie in here. 830 00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:54,880 Was really cool to see winter Fell again, see the Wall again, 831 00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,159 and just yeah, this Stark kind of hinting at things beyond the wall, 832 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:07,239 like death, like we're not just here fighting against nature and savages like death 833 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:12,079 and all the allusions to that, Like I just I love I love that. 834 00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,480 It's it's great and he's rambling on like, yeah, I can't remember 835 00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:17,719 which Targarian it was, but we brought the Targarians here. They stood where 836 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,400 you stand now, and they're dragons. They stopped at the wall. They 837 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,360 wouldn't fly past. Yeah, Like, I mean, you don't got to 838 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:29,199 talk in riddles like I know that there's a war going on the Targerians are 839 00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:30,679 needing your help, but you should just be up front and honest and say, 840 00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:36,039 man, like the fucking world enders on the is out there somewhere, 841 00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:38,039 we need just we need more support over here. And that's what he was 842 00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:43,519 petitioning, right, He's saying, we can't support you your claim very well, 843 00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:45,360 we have the oath and we're gonna send you two thousand men. Well, 844 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:51,440 actually it was a thousand and after the death of the prince, he 845 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,039 upped it to two thousand, didn't he, Because I thought it was one 846 00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:58,639 thousand at first. Yeah, because when he when the Sun was talking with 847 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,079 Vernier, he did say two thousand and so yeah, I guess I got 848 00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:04,519 up there. So that would have been a good pitch, like he shod 849 00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:07,639 another raven coming after and say another person was like killed, like oh, 850 00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:12,679 okay, we'll give you three thousand. Family wiped out all right, here, 851 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,760 here's my whole squad and everything. So yeah, I guess the only 852 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,000 reason they talking riddles and don't say it outright is because it is still like 853 00:52:19,039 --> 00:52:22,800 a propsy slash almost urban legend in a sense, right, because it's just 854 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,760 Aggon had a vision about this, like the first egg On, So it's 855 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,400 not like a because they were talked about that last season where Raniera didn't want 856 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,280 to start a war because of that and she wanted just to maybe bend the 857 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,360 knee and whatever, and she talked about the Great War and Damon like flipped 858 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,599 down. That's when he choked her because he thought she's just kind of fucking 859 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:45,920 like fucking him around. And then she realized that Avisari's never told him about 860 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,599 the story or the Song of Fire and Night. So that's why I think 861 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,039 they some people be cagy about it because it's not a common thing and it's 862 00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:57,239 probably some stuff that people would not believe and oh, that's just like a 863 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,920 fairy tale and everything. So two old men to gray beards. Hey, 864 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:06,360 old man's strength, you know, that's what they'll do. So yeah, 865 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,880 I think I think we covered most of it. Like I said, last 866 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,920 calls or any other characters scenes we haven't talked about. No, I got 867 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,599 nothing. Yeah, so nope, good start to the episode. Next week's 868 00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:20,239 gonna be brutal. I think it was smart as far as because I still 869 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,039 like autos, still like aim, and I liked that both seasons we did 870 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:25,960 lose one of the kids and that's like a very powerful, impactful thing. 871 00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:30,159 But it's also like two characters that did not have like a bunch of screen 872 00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:31,880 time, right, So it's like we're losing characters that are important to the 873 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,440 plot, important to our characters, be like but to me, like losing 874 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,400 in Auto and Aim and a damon those would like maybe potentially hurt the show, 875 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,480 which I personally, I know people again love the Red Wedding. I 876 00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:45,679 for me thought that actually hurt the show. I wish it would have came 877 00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:47,880 to the Layer because I thought there was still lots of story with those characters, 878 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,480 especially Rob Stark. I thought they were not saying he had to be 879 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,320 in John Snow's situation. But I get why they did it for shock value. 880 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,400 But I think with this one it's not as bad because I don't care 881 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,159 about these characters as much much yet, so but I can understand the importance 882 00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:06,920 to Arnier and Allison there. So yeah, yeah, So we will be 883 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,960 back next week. Hopefully Kirklam will be joining us because he should will be 884 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,679 catching up an acolyte and this we'll get to hear his thoughts episode one and 885 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,760 uh yeah, I think episode two is gonna be I'm wanna say an action 886 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,000 episode. I'm sure we'll have a little bit, but I think it's gonna 887 00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:23,639 be more like depressing episode because there's gonna be a lot of talk of, 888 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,599 oh, well, we accidentally murdered this kid, and while your granting, 889 00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:31,079 child's dead and I think i've seen the praisers looks like maybe a funeral or 890 00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:37,079 something, so that could possibly go wrong. So yeah, we'll talk about 891 00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:39,760 next week. We'll be back for episode two of House of Dragon, and 892 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,400 I promise you it will not be boring. Bye.