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This is the Downbeat on ninety seven
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JJ Dina slow death. I'm not
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Michelle Sidahua and sweet JJ Jackson.
It's Friday. We only got an

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hour left in the show bending Skin
back there getting ready and they got a

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uh Rational Bill and uh Carl Spoon. Carl Spoon and Rational Bill interviewing a

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chiefs blogger today. Do not miss
that. Eleven thirty, I believe is

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when that the festivity kicks off.
Always damn fun when those boys get wobbed

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and then speak easy on after that. So fun times all day long.

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Thank you for joining us six am
each and every morning. Uh maybe the

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way that's six am segment the best
I forgot that he does it every time.

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Before the introduction he jumps in.
It's our good buddy, Brody Jones

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joining us right now. Hey,
guys, thank you. Just head to

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toe Oklahoma. Crap on ready,
I just wanted you guys ever crap on

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a girl's head during a three way? Good are real? Are you wearing?

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Oklahoma? Jeans too. Yes,
make those Yes, a nice song

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that goes right up the crack,
that splits the O in the U.

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In Brodie's defense, that is not
a complete just shock jock out of nowhere

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comment. That was one of the
allegations against one Vince McMahon. That was

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my favorite text I've ever sent to
you yesterday. Yeah, that screenshot of

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that text between him and her.
So that was allegedly he sent it.

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Yeah, Oh my god, absolutely
read any of that. Yeah. I

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don't know how to exactly handle that, but let's uh, let's I guess

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I'll start there. Let's start with
the bee headline being Vince McMahon, who

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is the longtime owner of the WWE, back to when it was the WWF.

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He bought it from his dad,
Vince McMahon different middle initial, I

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think. So it's a legacy.
They've only been run this thing and essentially

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shaped sports entertainment or wrestling in the
world, certainly in America, for every

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year that we've been alive. I
mean, it wouldn't exist in any form

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close to what it is now if
it wasn't for him. Sets Assuming three

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of you don't know who Vince McMahon
is, anyway, the headline is Vince

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McMahon accused of sex trafficking assault a
former WWE employee he paid for NDA.

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Nowdy, please jump in at any
point. I can give the nuts and

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bolts right here, just to get
anyone who has no idea caught up with

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a story, because there are plenty
of backstories and plenty of allegations and problems

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with Vince McMahon for sure, but
this is wild. It's a woman who

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worked for WWE received a payout from
the company. She has followed a lawsuit

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against Vince McMahon. It was filed
on Thursday, just yesterday, that alleges

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the wrestling company's founder took part in
sex trafficking, put her through sexual acts

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that were done with quote extreme cruelty
and degradation. Also John Laurenidis, who's

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the ww's former head of talent relations, Johnny Ace, Johnny Ace people power

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because he was a guy who was
on TV and a character as well for

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a long time brother of a road
or or animal. There you go.

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In a Lithuanian, it is I
hate to I usually only picked the good

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ones too. Only Pete delkis my
good Lithuanian. Well and he's in hot

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water. Uh he doesn't. So
McMahon just a couple of years ago paid

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twelve million dollars to four women who
in sixteen years. It came out in

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a sixteen year span quiet allegations of
sexual misconduct and infidelity. It's terrible.

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It's a it's he's a terrible person. He has been mistreating and treating women

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improperly. And I mean he's housed
ers, he's covered up murders. Yeah,

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he's it. I mean, if
you look at the last two hundred

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years, it's Hitler, the person
who discontinued hot mustard at McDonald's. Whoever

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thought that Beyonce was good in The
New Lion King and then Vince McMahon.

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I'm sorry, JJ, he took
a stray back there. Whoa, whoa,

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whoa. I like you. He
didn't even meddle. So yeah,

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he's terrible. He's an absolute terrible
person. But we didn't know details until

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some of these things, until at
least just yesterday. So here's the story.

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This woman's name is Grant, Jump
Janelle Janelle Grant, right, And

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what shock to me about this is
this relationship with Vincent. Janelle Grant started

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in twenty nineteen. Okay, this
is only a couple of years ago or

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a few years ago. So she
was hired by w W in twenty nineteen

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after McMahon push and after she was
hired, McMahon push for a physical relationship

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in return for long, long promised
employment at WWE. You take care of

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me, I'll take care of you. During her employment, mcgrant say she

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was forced into a sexual relationship and
McMahon would share explicit photos, videos,

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and details of her to other w
WW employees, as well as coerce her

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into having sexual relations with other ww
Jesus w w E staffers, including Laurenidis

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we mentioned earlier. So much so
that McMahon and Lauren Iidis allegedly sexually assaulted

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Grant in their offices at the w
W headquarters while colleagues were busy at their

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desks. Where he has a giant
t rex skull in his office by the

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way, so I'm guessing he was
just watching on Yeah, a t rex

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skull. Yeah, just you know, over in the corner, he does

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have a t rex skull. Grant
begged the two to stop they continue to

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assault her. Now here's a tough
sentence and earmuffs for the kids. Honestly,

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the suit alleged McMahon also used sex
toys named after WWE wrestlers on Grant

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and defecated on her during one encounter. Oh my, I wonder what the

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owen hart Dill look like. He's
ready, just comes crushing down from the

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just they surprised. Did you read
the part about Brock? That's my favorite

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part of this whole thing? Your
favorite part? Yeah? So the funny

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thing, I guess it's not funny. But the thing is, is the

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Rumble being this weekend, they're obviously
going to do something pretty huge now to

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try to overshadow this. But Brock
was supposed to be in the rumble.

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Is that right? He was going
to come back and start his Mania program.

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That's probably scratched. They'll probably replace
him with Stroman or somebody, another

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big beefy man. But so apparently
to get Brock to re sign, Vince

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showed Brock pictures of this lady in
the nude, and Rock was like,

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like, what I see? And
so he texts the lady like, hey,

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I gave Brock your phone number.
He wants to set up a playdate

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and that way I can get him
to resign and he re signed. Him

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and the lady text back and forth. Apparently Brocked asked for a video of

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her going to the bathroom number one, not number two. He's classy,

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and he just responded with bitch after
he got to video. So that's a

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hell of a response, Yeah,
bitch that the allegations are wild, I

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frankly believe the hell out of all
of them. It fits perfectly with what

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I would guess this dude's all about. He once said the N word on

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Monday Night Raw. Well, he
definitely did in a do rag. He

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did a ECW title what behind the
scenes right there in the bowels of the

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stadium, you never forget it.
Yeah, So I was like, yeah,

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he's basically I want to say,
hell, they're captive, but at

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least mentally and professionally captive with promises
of paying her off or giving her a

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big job, and you're gonna work
in this company and who knows, maybe

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be on TV one day. The
insane wrestling community, which usually lives on

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Twitter, it's fun to be a
part of in some words, but there's

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people who are just psychos and like
most things. But yesterday there was two

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big complaints. One, people were
complaining that a real news source broke this

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instead of like wrestling, like the
wrestling of Waser her Live or Brian Alvarez

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or Dave Meltzer. They're mad that
they didn't break this story because she's not

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gonna go to them. She's gonna
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the other thing people were mad about
were saying, well, how can she

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talk? She signed it in DNA. Well, this goes to prove kids

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pay your bills because Vince made one
payment and he stopped making her payment and

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that broke the NDA, and she
can say whatever she wants n Yeah.

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Wow, so shocking. And Brody
has some other communications that we can't even

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begin to read, alleged text messages
from him to her. But he is

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taking this vulnerable woman whose parents just
died prior to them meeting in twenty nineteen,

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down on her luck. But I
think a nice looking girl. Yeah.

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And they lived in the same building
because Vince lived in her penthouse and

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she lived in an apartment there,
and she meant taking care of her elderly

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parents they had passed. And someone
said like, hey, you should get

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with Vince. He can give you
a job, and then it just all

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spiraled from there. Can't ask a
question for nubes or less experienced than the

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wrestling world types out there might be
listening, including myself. Does his daughter

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run? She was still in charge? So weird things happened. So you

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know, those original allegations came out
about him. Was it twenty twenty two?

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I believe it was right before money
in the Bank in July. Well,

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she had stepped down right before that
and said just a weird post out

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of nowhere, Hey, I'm resigning. I'm going home to be a mom,

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blah blah blah. And then like
a month later, the allegations came

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out and Vince just immediately retired,
and then Stephanie came back. Well,

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then Vince kind of pulled a power
play and got some people kicked off the

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board and some people put into power
that would vote him back as the chairman

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of the board, and he forced
himself back into the board and forced himself

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into a lot of things, and
Stephanie immediately resigned again. And now you're

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kind of seeing why she knew what
was going on, and it's really weird.

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There's a promo between the two of
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or four where Stephanie is. You
can tell now she's being pretty honest.

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She's like, it's storyline, but
she's saying, hey, you've promised me

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to go out to dinner with your
buddies and stuff like that, since I

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was seventeen years old and promised them
that I would do things, and I

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did those things to try to make
you more powerful. And you look at

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it now and you're like, I
bet there was a lot of truth to

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that. Well, you're saying,
yeah, his daughter, Yes, he

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was pimping his daughter alone. Well, trying to do an ancestual storyline with

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her was on the wrong. Yeah. You know what's funny is I have

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get it. I have that audio
and the lines was so blurred. The

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tweet is now gone. Yeah,
like the tweet has been scrubbed, but

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it's it's Stephanie yelling at Vince on
TV. But Stephanie's also not a very

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good actor. Yeah, and this
was and this is like she's the last

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thing she's ever done. She's like, you've made me go out with your

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your executive friends when I was seventeen, How was the things I had to

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do? Well, he's doing his
Vince you know he's overacting too. You

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know, there's the but when you
apply that to there's been the rumor for

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years Vince let mach have her for
the first time when he was like when

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she was like fifteen, speak in, don't shorten speak speak for them.

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Okay, macho man. There's been
a rumor much, Yeah, exactly.

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Come on, I'm saving time here, not much. Listen, Tommy and

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Picky. Okay, Yeah, there's
been that rumor. Components, it's been

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out there for years that no one's
confirmed. Nobody really knows. But the

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rumor is that Vince was like,
hey, here's Stephanie under age, Stephanie,

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let's do business. Yes. Wow, So there's that rumor. And

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I was And if you believe that
rumor, it would have happened in or

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allegedly happened in nineteen ninety four.
And I did the math last night when

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Stephanie was seventeen years old. Yeah, God, just give his daughter to

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the macho man who the Bacho man
did ecstasy with his wife his later wife

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on the beach and his wife said, yeah, he did X. He

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started to talk about some wild stuff, including banging Stephanie mc don you imagine

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that slim Jim fueled love session at
you from one inch away, just pointing

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to the heavens right before he gets
there. Oh my god, dude,

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this this guy is a very special, unique piece of human garbage. Yes,

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he's a Carnee raised by carnies.
They don't get any worse. Wow.

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I mean his dad was a Carneye. His dad was a Carnee.

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He's a Carnee. His kids hate
him like he's pretty much like Shane's pretty

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much wiped his hands of the business
for years and tried to come back and

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vinces like, got out of here. You're not running anything. I'm giving

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everything to Triple H. Colonel Tom
Parker looked like a good guy. What

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is it about that sect of society
hustling seen like completely void of scruples or

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empathy or or code or anything.
Look at the business though, it started

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as a con to get to a
like magic and everything else. It's a

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trick to make you think something's real, to give me money. It's like,

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right, if you grow up in
that world and you don't know any

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other way, Yeah, then maybe
it just becomes like an intrinsic thing,

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you know, like you grew up
being a televangelist. They're the same people.

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Because then it started like there was
boxing, right, and then bare

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knuckle boxing and all this, and
then they would have wrestling and it was

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good. But then people were like, all right, they're just kind of

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laying there and rolling around forever.
And then one of them, I don't

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remember who there you can read the
history. George is the one that took

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it to a new level. Because
you had Farmer Barnes back in the day,

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you had George Hackenschmidt, you had
Frank Gotch like Schmidt and Gotch Yeah,

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for like three hours like in Chicago, and they would they would just

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roll around, but they were actually
wrestling, right. It was like,

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I mean, there was a predetermined
okay, So even before that though,

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I think it was well, it's
even like with Farmer Burns and Strangler Lewis

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when they were traveled. Look,
it still appeared to look like traditional wrestling.

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Is that what you're saying, right, But they were traveling in a

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covered wagon from town to town to
town. And what they would do is

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they'd have one plant in the crowd. They would get out there too.

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Guys would you know, put on
a show and guys, you know Bubba

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and the crowd like I can do
that. Well, they'd have a plant

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who was a fan would come down
and they would wrestle, and then they

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would get an actual guy out there
and the guy who was their shooter or

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their most legit fighter would hurt that
guy legitimately and he would go back in

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the crime bake man, this guy's
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it went, and then they just
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you know, a giant. Gorgeous
George was the first one to a show

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to have like character be a character. What era was gorgeous George? Really?

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Yeah? That's Kamada Lead based his
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and he admits he admits it.
I didn't realize he went that far back.

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And Gorgeous George is one of the
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popular, that people bought televisions because
they wanted to see George, Gorgeous George

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get beat up. He was that
good of a heel. He was so

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pretty you had to hold the rope
for him. He had to do his

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hair, which is essentially still why
it works today is because you want to

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see the good guy Beata or the
bad guy beat the GIF you look at

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every like little kind of prance around
prissy heel. They all come from gorgeous

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George. But but the Rogers,
Rick Flair, they all came from Gorgo.

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What you're describing sounds like this whole
industry was earthed from a con artist

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carnival. They all carnies. The
whole business is all CARNIVALO. That's crazy.

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How it's out and open. Everyone
knows and it's just show business.

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But when it started, and for
one hundred years, it was just I'm

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going to fool you and take your
money, and that's what the whole business

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was brought up on. And then
introduce Power and well I'm Monday. Well,

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I mean we're talking three days after
they signed a five billion dollar deal

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with Netflix. With Netflix, one
day after Vince and the rock Are hit

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the opening gavel on Wall Street for
t KO, which is the merge between

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WWE and UFC. It's Endeavors new
their new business corporation, which is just

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UFC and ww t k O.
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he's hitting the and Vince to get
away, Ari Emmanuel and those guys

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are going to have to buy out
his shares to get him completely away from

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them now, and that's going to
cost them like three million dollars and it's

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going to kill the stock price,
or three billion dollars. Since kill the

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stock price? Does it ever make
you wonder when you hear things like like

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this that are in the news.
Now, these are the ones, these

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are the allegations, These are the
creepy stories that the news is running with.

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How many layers of just these stories
and and just the litany of NDA's

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and bad behavior and freaking odd deaths
and just so much crap that is just

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swept under the rug the public will
never know about in this industry, I

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mean probably with a lot of industries, but this one in particular, Yeah,

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because of the foundation that it's based
on. I mean, human Centipede

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was probably based on Jim Jim Crockett
promotions back in the day. There's no

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telling. They're just the worst human
beings. And I love the product,

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but my god, they're terrible us
Chrispin Waugh totally framed, though agreed the

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big Bowflex money and in Brody's pocket. You can imagine the tag team that

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Vince and Crispin wa are gonna have
when they get down there. Yeah,

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and hell, but at least now, I mean, take it, Hitler

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boy, at least the product has
evolved into I mean, they at least

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that they have women champions and they're
you know, it's moving, but behind

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the scenes it really hasn't changed all
that much. But you're right, imagine

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the eighties the untold but just the
untold things that will never know about that

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are just lying dormant. The amount
of stories that these people could probably tell

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if they weren't in fear for their
lives, that they weren't bound by NDA's

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that are maybe not even alive.
Yeah, as a result that they needed

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to quieted the ones that aren't saying
anything because they're just as guilty as the

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rest of them, right, yes, yes, And the mounds of cocaine.

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So can you imagine I'm just picturing
it. I love mountains of cocaine.

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The eyes are just kind of spinning
like spirals in a cartooned to get

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a bag of cocaine a bag of
steroids see in two weeks on TV.

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Yeah, it's gonna be incredible.
Let's get out now and come back and

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get prepped. For Saturday night's big
event. Okay, give me thirty seconds

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on or one minute on what happens
now because Vince you'll never see him again,

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you may is definitely gone, Like
is triple h the fate? Like

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how do they trips? Is the
face and will be the face him and

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Nick con I mean, is the
name mcmon because Stephanie ran a after two

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years ago the allegations hit and they
paid off all these twelve million dollars.

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Stephanie's like, oh, I'm running
a full investigation and they never even interviewed

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this girl who just popped up,
So like she ran a sham investigation to

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bust the people that would include her
dad and did no such thing Like is

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this day one of the name McMahon
has to be sort of But that's the

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thing. Stephanie does so much stuff
outside of the E. I think she'll

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continue to do that. She's really
involved a special Olympics and a reason that

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investigation into this probably didn't get because
it was already done. There was already

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an NDA sign, she was already
been signed, so it's probably it was

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probably one of those things like you
can't look into this, you can look

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into other things but this one's already
been taken care of. We've pushed this

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to the back. But I don't
think Stephanie's ever coming back. Shane's obviously

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not coming back. I mean he's
probably still laying on the floor of Sofi

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with his knees blown out. All
right, Berdi's gonna stick around. We

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will have some talk back to play. But uh oh, and we'll have

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we'll hear the Nick Kreamer song again
too, the incredible unearthed Dallas boy band.

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You guys are more on loads for
you and more on much. Okay,

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you know what, Just go all
right, we'll be back in a minute.

