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only three of us here, that's fine. Like I said, you don't
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to us, And if I mentioned new people about the new people, they're
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It's cool, don't worry about it. So anyways, let's move on to
the injury report. I'm just saying this injury report, no significant injuries,
none, none whatsoever? None whatsoever? Are you sure about that? Do
you know something? Thought? Woa, No, you know something? I
don't believe informous? All right, cool. Anyways, we're gonna move around
to the shoot around topic. N Season Tournament. The first round is about
the end on Tuesday. What do you guys think so far? Like,
has your mind? Have your opinions changed about the N Season Tournament. N
Season Tournament for me was always a cash grab, So I mean, I
don't I think the game would have been fine without it. But again,
to be able to go to Vegas for a weekend, to be able to
watch your favorite stars, and the championship is in two weeks, so two
weeks from today is a championship. Players are starting to take it seriously because
I think what it does is it motivates, It pushes UH, and it
also gives you. It still goes into your win loss records. So I've
been to a couple of the Bucks games on a Tuesday and a Friday,
and they've been really competitive games, really good games. I think the league
can do without it, and at the end of the day, the Championship
Cup, I think will be treated a lot like the All Star Cup or
All Star Game, where it's just a personalized accolade. It won't matter.
No one's gonna look back and say, oh my god, the Milwaukee Bucks
won the end season Championship Cup. No one cares. This is a league
about rings and championships. So that Championship Cup cool? Great, I like
it, but I can do without. That's just met me. Say what
again, Wow, champion, I'm gonna get on this nose. Well,
well, yeah, yeah, you pay back. You are quite fond of
it. First round has been a little bit of shocking to me, you
know, to see the Lakers are four and oh with the Bucks four and
up. The three last games are just coming up Tuesday. For the first
denvers out of it. I didn't understand how teams that I thought would be
at the top are not at the top in the n season tournament. So
I guess the long haul of the season shall determine a lot. This is
just a short term. Has you has your opinion changed about the season tournament?
Then oh you was building up to that, My fuck, go ahead.
So what I was going to say was I wasn't a fan of it
at first, but now I'm kind of a little bit on board with it
because it's kind of making the games a little more interesting to start the season.
Is that only because the Lakers are in the first place, Well,
the Lakers are four and oh, so the Lakers are in first in their
division for n season tournament in their group, and the Bucks and somebody else
though New Orleans. Well, let me go over this real quick, like
for the Eastern Conference. So, like I said before, we have games
coming up on Tuesday, so like Indiana's already in it. But let me
talk about these eliminated teams. You got Toronto, Chicago, Washington, and
you got Detroit. So like as far as like East b which is the
Milwaukee one, I think they play on Tuesday day. The Knicks play on
Tuesday, Miami plays on Tuesday, Charlotte plays on Tuesday. But they're one
and two, so they can only come out as two and two and then
so really the Bucks are going to clinch then, guardless, the Bucks are
gonna clinch. I haven't yet, but they're going to clinch. But thinks
the Lakers have clinched. Yeah, but the Miami, I mean the Western
Conference, if they clinched the first round, they're in it. They're in
they're in the they're they're going to compete for the championship cup. No,
no, so another So it's the quarterfinals. It's the quarterfinals. It says
here clinched in season tournament group. Yeah, they clinched their group, and
then they have a quarter finals, they have the semi finals, they have
a championship, and that's all in Vegas. No, in Vegas, the
championship. Okay, okay, well that's interesting because that means next week,
this weekend, next week we're playing quarterfinals, is what you're saying, because
think about it. Okay, December seventh and eighth, ninth is championship weekend
for end season tournament. It's in Vegas on the seventh, eighth, and
ninth. That's in two weeks. So it's just is it just the ninth,
so there's nothing, Well, it's you know how the NBA does this
NBA weekend And I only know that because I'm always in Vegas. But it's
NBA weekend December seventh through the ninth, and the championship game is on the
ninth. I mean, I still think it's too confusing for a casual fan,
right, Like, if you know in the floors I think you all
saw up close and personal. On the other day, floors are hideous.
The Bucks look like the most basketball floor of them all. But I mean
i've been like the Bucks floor. I still don't. But you know,
it is shout out to the Lakers, who are probably gonna win the end
season tournament, you think, so, I don't know. I'm very interested
to see what's going to happen with a tournament. I think the NC tournament
has has there's hype at the beginning of the season. Usually these first for
six weeks. You know, you're kind of picking fine story. Stuff happens,
you talk about it. But I think this n season tournament has given
up a lot give us a little bit more motive. I mean, money
is always a motive for the players, but for us fans, I think
it's getting a little hype and it's interesting. You can see players getting hyped
up about it. So I think this very interesting. I thought it was
very interesting. And to clarify, the quarterfinals are December fourth and fifth.
The semi finals are the seventh in Vegas, and the championship is the ninth
in Vegas, so there'll be two semi final games in Vegas. On December
seventh, and the championship on Saturday, December ninth. Oh, you're right,
because the final four, yeah yeah, final three, no, you're
right, Final four, you're right. You're right, you're right, and
then the quarterfinals are the fourth and fifth as you mentioned. So it'll be
interesting. Man. You know, I the Bucks tend to do good and
stuff like this, but I don't want that championship cup. I don't want
that consolation prize. I don't know. I feel like are I feel like
with the Eastern Conference they'll do good, but it'll be very interesting to see
how they'll pan out because they're NFL players like Boston or PHILADELNAA, Philadelphia,
I think Indiana, which they did be this so it would be interesting.
But the teams like Indiana, who I don't see their four and oh yeah,
I know what I'm saying for them to go four and on now,
but like, do you see them actually making the playoffs? Let me tell
you how to get the tournament. Let me tell you something, man,
Tyrese Halliburton is having a freaking incredible year, and folks better stop sleeping on
the Pacers. I'm not saying that they're gonna go and win the championship.
But the the Indiana Pacers, the Sacramento Kings, these sleeper teams that we
all may always sleep on because they know that they may or may not have
a true championship pathway. They are taking this in season tournament seriously. So
I don't think it's a given. But I think Lebron shines and stuff like
this. Just stick about his All Star games, stick about you know everything.
I granted, the Pacers are only six in regular seating, but you
know they're beating the teams in their conferences. So time will tell. But
again that the en season turney. I mean, it's great because it'll be
the first, but I'm I'm here for titles. So Bucks, if you
win it, don't get complacent. You Well, I'll say it like you
mentioned Indiana looking at the team. Remember you say a championship or bus?
Does that counts looking like a bus? And the fact that if they win
the championship in tournament championship and then lose the NBA Finals, this season was
still horrible, you think, so, yes, that's a victory victory food
for them. It ain't that's victory. They won the first They won the
first NBA n Season Tournament. That's not even the victory for the city.
That's a victory for them specifically because they getting paid. I think it's a
victory for the city because you'll be able to say you're the first. Right,
because here's the thing. It's not going anywhere, right, like the
off It's not going on as long as Adam Silver is in charge. And
it generates because Vegas tickets are sold out already. Question, let me just
tell you put that out. You brought up something very interesting. You said,
it's not going nowhere. No, So you think this is gonna be
going on forever. Oh? Absolutely, I do not. Oh I do
not. I think this is gonna go on until they find a team to
put in Vegas. Well that's happening. I mean as soon as Lebron retires
him in shack and put their money together and yeah, but I'm saying,
like, until that has happened, I don't think this is gonna continue.
I disagree because you think about it's it generates money. And for rookie here's
why, for rookies who don't make no money to be able to get five
hundred thousand dollars bonus for winning what do you know what that does to a
rookie? Check five hundred thousand of the winners. I believe they said each
players five hundred thousand, not to split each player. You sure about that?
Let's uh a lot of money. Let's fact check NBA got it.
I mean that's the thing, like the payer, the players who aren't I
think they made a good point. He was like, for the players who
aren't, you know, here on a ten day contract, or they're here
just for a short time, not they're here for a good time, that
a long time, they can like, oh five hundred thousand, I'm finna
start playing my butt off. I'm finna start doing what I need to do.
They not only stay on this team, but just to get this money,
and that's what they do. They have to play to get this money.
Like Drake talk about these rookies, each about guys who didn't get picked
up in the first round or who weren't the who aren't a lottery picked.
So they getting they get they getting that five hundred thousand is gonna help them
out tremendously. Now, is uncle Sam let me say he is. Players
on the losing team and the quarterfinals received fifty thousand dollars players, and think
about it, that's for their charity too, you know what I'm saying.
Players on a team that loses in the semi finals get one hundred thousand dollars.
Players on the team that loses in the championship get two hundred thousand dollars.
Players on a team that win the championship they get five hundred thousand dollars
a piece. Now that might be a lot of money, but if you
are a scrub like Green on the Bucks, who doesn't pass the ball,
who just likes to shoot, that's what you're there for. But that five
hundred k for him, that's a big deal because there's only some players making
two million fifty a man. But still, that's two fifty four bouncing a
ball for one additional day, you know what I'm saying. So it's a
win win for me. This isn't going anywhere. The players will get behind
it because it's a cash crap. And don't forget the NBA players love Las
Vegas. Let us not act like they. I don't think we'll see real
quick. I want to say this, Well, the Bucks did win,
but I want to give a shout out because We're near the mid season point,
and I want to give a shout out to the teams that nobody expected
to be doing it is what is it? Oh? I didn't see that?
Man? Your agendas ten minutes the show. Well, if you just
take you take a quick look at them, they'll be there. I can
stop being in church to look at your late emails, ladies and gentlemen.
It takes to do that. So the rookies are struggling. The rookies are
st school. Henderson has been assigned to the G League for conditioning because he's
just came back from injury ankle injury conditioning. I call cap. First of
all, I call cap. He's averaging eight point eight a game, two
point two rebounds, four point six assists, he's shooting thirty six percent from
the from the field goal range, and then he's shooting nine point five from
three point range. What are your thoughts on this? Is this just a
guy trying to get you know, his he's trying to get you know,
acclimated to the NBA or is this a bust? Didn't he come off of
injury? He's hurt, Yeah, he's That's why they send him the league
conditioning. Give him time to get conditionstics. I did, So what what
do you mean? So? What I mean? He's shooting nine percent from
three point range? He's shooting thirty six percent from the field. Stop stop
shooting from the three point line. From the field, he shooting thirty six
percent. I've seen worse. I've seen worse. There's the thing, the
pressure to play in the n b A. Is he a bust? You
got to give him a little coming off an injury. And it's only sending
them to the G League. That's that's a different story compared to you playing.
And then he gets a combination No, Jimmy Butler's partners playing in the
G League right now? So dangerous. So then, how you're gonna ask
us a question? You know you're right, You know you're right everyone.
That's part of the show too. So what about? What? What about?
What? Chris Middleton got a sign to the G League? He was
clearly coming off a major injury. Injury. He sprained his ankle to judgments
right now, how you don't know how bad it is. Some angle,
some ankle springs are just as bad as a break or worse. Are you
telling me? Looking at his stats? This is just hey, we need
to get this is just conditioning or it's just you know, a bust.
Because, be honest with you, I was looking at school like, this
is gonna be your rookie. Oh no, did you see Victor? While
mean before Victor Wingspan, I'm saying off top, Well, let's go to
the first three draft picks. Wingspan, Schoop, I think his name is
Miller. I think you're talking about Giddy who dude in Okay, see this
in a little bit of trouble right now. He was a rookie last year.
Yeah, school, I just told you who they were, Wingspan,
Schoop and Brandon Miller. Well, if you thought Scoop was gonna be Rookie
of the Year over Victor, that's just your own bad judgment because no one
thought that. Okay, everybody knew that Victor would be coming in killing it.
When we talked about it, I said he was gonna be good.
You're the only one to tho you said. You was like, well,
you know, g doumb you don and the kid is balling out. He
was balling out. Balling out is hard. I think he's getting used to
things. I think he's using his Wingspan. I think he's blocking shots because
he's seven teen he should be blocking shots and doing all the stuff he's doing
speaking to which I don't see it on your thing. But since it's related
related, what do you think about? Yeah, what do you think about
and we'll come back to your topic. What do you think about, uh,
san Antonio's coach? His name great? We think about Popovich asking the
crowd not to boo Kawhil at the Spurs, right. But but it's related
though, because we're talking about Victor Wingspan, the thing is about to be.
To be honest with you, when I first seen I was like,
this is kind of corny because it was it was it was real. It
was given high school teacher. Hey, guys, show him some respect.
Show him some respect. Guy? Was it corny because he opposing team you
boo people like that? He did win championships there, right, got to
do anything. You think you're not gonna boo Lebron. You think we're not
gonna bo You think we're not gonna boot Ray Allen when he comes to town.
They didn't boot Lebron when they went to Cleveland. Yeah, this time
this time, like, don't hear and don't here and tell me not to
boot somebody. Why why do you think they didn't born because what he did?
What championship? Okay, then so why would they do the same thing
for Kawhi because he left. He bought them a championship though, right,
but he left, he played, he played a major role in that championship.
Let's cut the craft beer number one there. They had two championships before
he got there number two, so what uh the last one they probably could
have won without him. What I'm saying that trip you matter. Put some
respect on Kawhi and Day. What I'm saying is this, don't tell me
not to boot somebody, and you know they're on a supposing team. That's
part of the game. I didn't think his feeling was hurt because I guess
I'm say this for a coach Greg Popovich. As tough as he is,
he has a lot Greg Popovich to be on the opposing team for me is
too buddy, Buddy. I think he like going to hug Lebron in the
locker room when they won the title, Like, Bru, you don't have
to do that. Your team just lost. And to tell and here's my
thing, bless you and to tell and to tell uh into and to tell
people that pay their money, they're hard on money. Not to boo to
me is foul, Like I paid my money. I can see if I'm
yelling boguer stuff like they're doing that racist town of Boston, right, I
can see if we're doing that. But if I'm just booing him to distract
him from free throws a little rowdy to they absolutely can, but to boo
him to distract him, I didn't think it was nothing wrong with it.
And Pop, sit down, man. I get it. You're the godfather
of the Spurs. It's your town. You're very opinionated, and I appreciate
your opinion, especially on politics at times. But you don't tell people that's
paying their money that they stopped booing. That's classless, like what that is
for someone who has won you championship? That's classless? It is. I
don't think it's classless. I think it's emotional. I don't think it's class
Let's just say I'm trying to think of another player, Drew Holiday. I'm
just saying that went there and then win the championship, came Drew Holliday is
going to come back here and play. They're not going to. They're not
going to. I'm not you know what's because he was you know, he
took this out, but he didn't ask for trade. Don't matter. Why
is different? Letnna tell why is different? Lenna take why is different?
Because that's that's a total different category. It's a different sigament. James Harden,
James Harden, when he when he goes to Philly, he get when
he goes to Philly, he's getting when he goes to Houston, he's getting
booed. Yeah, he's getting boobed. Why because he asked to leave out
of these places, Kawhi Leonard acts to leave out of San Antonio, but
championships, but he also left stubbornly. He left, refusing to play,
refusing to come in games, any kind of bad mouth Pop on his way
out. So I don't think there's nothing wrong with it. Did you hear
it come out of his mouth? Bro? He did. He did press
conferences and he was literally indirectly blaming Pop for his injury, for trying to
play him too much. This is what Kawhi said. This is what Kawhi
said. This is after Zaza Pachula stepped on his ankle. But anyway,
yeah, I brought it up again. But anyway, Pop, let it
go, man, Let these fans pay their money. But you do have
to recognize this man did bring your city a championship. You don't have to
be too hard on you. I mean, I'm sure fans recognized it.
Like you said before, they're not saying obscendities to him. They're just buoying
him. Then that's part of the game. So so back to your question
about Scoot, I think it's a disappointment considering he was a top draft pick,
but I don't think you could throw him the towel on him just yet.
You gotta give him a chance to develop. You gotta get him chance
to get his mental right. You got to give him a chance to get
his conditioning down pack. That's what the G League is for now. Granted,
he's not playing like Victor, he's not playing like chat Homegrin, he's
not playing like Thompson nor Jordan Hawkins. So he's not even in the top
ten caliber of rookies right now. I would say if he goes this season
and he doesn't step it up in this second half of the season, then
you can have conversations on is he a bust because all the players that came
after him are all doing better. I'm calling him now bust Anthony Edwards bust
or bust Anthony Edwards from Anthony Bennett. I'm sorry, Anthony Bennett, bust
or worse. I'm just saying, like, I don't know. I don't
see you being a star in this league. I see you being a role
player. That makes him a bust because he's a role player when your top
when your top five, there's a lot of top five rookies that sucked in
what happened? They're called bust. Was Darka Malacheck a bust? Yeah?
Was perzingis a bus? Yeah? Per zingis is dominating guy? What are
you talking about? He's helping or he's giving Boston in there double double?
Now what year is this for him? But it doesn't matter. So is
he the start of the team. He didn't even start team. He's the
third option. So he's the thing. He's a third option. Here's why
I disagree with you. To me, if you have a long career,
you can't be a bust. If you've had a long career, no,
you can't. Because look, if the expectations are here, okay, and
you don't meet those expectations, bust, bus Yiannis can't be a bust.
Well Yanniannis can't be a bust because he also wasn't a top five draft pick
exactly. That's my point. Giannis is a breakout star like Draymond Green,
like Tom Brady. If we're going sports like and I felt like Aaron Rodgers,
right, these were all players that had it and they grew into that
greatness. Yeah. So so that's not a fair assessment. You can't say
they're not a busy weren't top five exactly. My point is if there's an
expectation when you're a top five pick, when you're a top five pick,
there's an expectation, then your bus don't. I don't think there's an expectation.
Top ten, top ten got high expectations. No, I disagree.
I think top three has high five. I think four and five depending on
the year, is like and we'll take best available. Because the last great
draft, in my opinion, was a three. That was the last great
draft. There hasn't been any, let's be honest, outside of the first
the first three, you're like, who is this? Who is that because
if you look at the NBA ladder right now, the number three rookie right
now is barely averaging eleven points a game, but he is averaging a double
double. The number three pick is averaging thirteen points a game. The number
five is averaging eight points a game. So to call these players a bus
we we are. We are way too hard on people. Give them a
chance to grow and develop. To hear my thing, check this out,
take us out. We got top you said three you pull name me?
Yeah? You so you got top five? Just your three bron Darko,
Camelo, Anthony, Chris By top five out of the four the superstars.
I don't know what the hell happened to Darko? Out of those full five,
out of those five, three of them are superstars. Three of them
are superstar. Who's not Malachick obviously and Chris Bosh, he's not a superstar.
No, he's not Chris No? What I half man and a half
man in Miami? There you go? Here you was he was he the
forget Was he the forgotten player on those Miami because he was? He?
G You're about a got to dis yourself. You know why you put the
superstar yes, he was a forgotten superstar. So so the Miami years,
does that make him a bust because he wait a minute, let me get
does that make him a bus because he wasn't the Chris Bosh in Toronto before
he got there he was twenty eighteen? Does it make him a bust because
he wasn't the star in Toronto when he got with Miami. He was the
star of Miami, I mean in Toronto. Does listen to the questions,
does it make Bosh a bust because he wasn't the star in Miami that he
was in Toronto? Okay? So then why is it that my man from
Boston, Perzingis is a bust because he wasn't killing his rookie year. He
wasn't killing his rookie year. He was he was killing his rookie year.
So then why is he a bus because he was injured. I'm going to
let you finish, but but your argument doesn't make sense because if that's the
case, what I was doing what you did to me earlier. If that's
the case, Grant Hill was a bust. Okay, Yeah, hall of
fame I got, I got a couple of situations. Think about this,
then, when t J. Foard was drafted by the Bucks. He'll be
here next week, by the way, in the city he is, I
will be Did he have high did he have higher expectations? I don't think
they did. Like it was a top he was a top he was number
eight, was top ten, So then I said top ten they had was
rich? He had a career? Was he was? He had high expectations
for he was seven to the bulls, right yep? Okay, so yeah,
hold on second, talk about you said top ten, right, I
said top five? You said top three. All these people you're naming or
I'll saw those top five, So yeah, I don't have high expectations for
them. Hi rich, he had a good career in Kansas. J fod
wouldn't have high expectations for him to come out. He was the career.
He was the point guard for the future. But he wasn't like, I'm
gonna take this team to another level. That's never looked at him like that.
That's how are you kidding me? Look, that's how everybody looked at
it. It was a high draft pick. Shout out to t J.
Ford. Miami took Dwayne Wade at number six. Was he expectation five,
yeah, five, yes, top five, No, because you know what,
let's be honest. I remember me and Kesey talked about this the night
before the draft and I said, d Wade's going five. Kesey said,
d Wade is not going that high coming out of college. Other than the
Final four, you couldn't shoot. There was not a lot of height on
Dwayne Wade. It wasn't until the final four. It wasn't until the n
CUAA tournament and then the day take you. I had Marquee. I always
went to the games like d Wade couldn't shoot, So it was like,
well, he's good, but he can't shoot. But I knew. I
knew he was different because he was freaking if you went to a game and
you seen him play, he had NBA athletic ability. Yeah, so you
knew everything else from fall in line once he got there. But my thing
is, if you're a top five pick, there's an expation, and if
you don't meet the expectation, you're a bus like so and so, going
back to what you were saying talking about all these people like porn Zingis fan,
you brought up port Zingis por Zingi's first year. He was killing it
running the city. Then after that injury injury, injury traded him. He
went to Washington and did Andrew Bogett number one win somewhere else. That's a
bust. That's a bust. So my thing about that he's a world champion.
The only the only reason, the only one title would go. He
was a critical feast. The only reason his career in Milwaukee change was because
it freaking the accident when he failed. Yep, that's that's the personal problem.
You are whoa you are hard on. We just talked about this two
weeks ago about Hall of Fame. One of the people we talked about was
Garrett was a grand heel and why is Grandhead not of Hall of Famer because
he was injury prone? Well, what does that have to do with being
a bust? Those are two different things. There's a lot of great role
well outs, not great basketball. Robert is Robert orir bust. He was
never a top five pick. Give me a top five pick, okay,
Andrew Bogle is a good example. Daran Williams number three, Darren Williams,
I want to I don't want to say a bus he went three. Chris
Paul went four. Okay, I can see why. I can see Raymond
Felton win five. That's a bus. What Charlie Villa win six, that's
a bus. You have to go over his stass. That's a bus.
Anthony Bennett, Greg Oden, Sam Buie Brown, those are those are those
are horrific. Jason Williams. Those bust, even though his injury killed him
later a bus. Christian Laightner wasn't a bust. Christian Laightner, I think,
but he wasn't a bus. He was okay, okay, he was
Michael Kidd Gil Chris two thousand, two thousand and four season. Think about
this draft flash. That was d White Howard number one, Mecca ok Ford
number two. Whatever happened to him. But remember he dropped his jersey because
he didn't want to play for Port Philly. Remember at the press conference he
got drafted, he held up his jersey and just dropped it at the end
of the press conference like something like that bus because he knew to be traded.
Yeah, whatever happened here. Ben Gordon's who Ben Gordon was not a
bush buzz due to injuries, due to injuries, but it's still bust.
Sean Livston champion, bus champion with a great shot. Bust he raised,
wrecked his career. Devin Harris bust. You know what funny? He was
five. Devin Harris was number five, went to Dallas. He went to
Dallas, won the championship. That was when when they beat Dwayne Wade.
So he was the point guarded. Let me ask you a question. Ask
your question. What what makes Devon Harris a bus? Devon Harris bus No
All Star games? He did? How many? He said? Devin who?
Devin Harris, Yes, bust journey man? Is how was he a
journey man? Is he not a journeyman at the end of his career?
Throughout his career, No, he played the team he was with. He
got traded or release that he started getting injuries in like year ten. Bust.
Before that, Dallas was not letting him go. Are you are you
kidding me? A championship by the way, I get it. He from
the city. I get it from the city. Harris, takeaway, take
away your yo, your personal feelings for these people. Bust. All right,
future NBA players, if you're listening, if you come out top five,
you better be putting up thirty and ten. Otherwise, he is gonna
dog you in the barhop. I'm not saying you gotta put in thirty and
ten. I'm not even saying that you have to be I'm saying you have
to be somewhat. I'm saying you gotta be a superstar. I'm saying you
have to be somewhat of an All Star caliber player. Y'all name all these
people that ain't did nothing. Dollar was drafted number nine, I said,
top five, and y'all was just going in on me to I said,
Iggy at least hall of fame. No, no, no role player.
Listen, if you're giving Iggy the Hall of Fame, but you're calling some
of these people bus. I questioned your basketball. I don't know why.
I definitely do Michael Beasley. It's a sad bus bus bust. So back
to your question, OJ Mayo again, sad for the bus. Russell Westbrook
I was just not a bus. But he's at the end of his career,
he's not doing anything, and now he's a journey man because he get
what you said. You're right, I say, your whole career, not
him going to the NBA Finals, All Star All NBA Team, Like the
list goes on with Russell. Now is it in his career is looking like
booty? Yes, it's looking like dumpster fire. Throwed in the garbage Kevin
Love. Of course not now Gallari? Who the Nali Gallinari? He was
just playing with a bust. So so let's bring it back home, Scoop.
Is too soon to give that man a bus titles. Let him play
out the season and let's see how he rebounds from his injury. I don't
think I don't think you really know what the NBA career is Zion the bus
close, but not yet. Zion is out here playing John Wall. That's
a tough one. Why he hasn't done anything more than half these people we
named? But that's oh yeah, haven't done anything? Why is that?
Oh my god, Devin Harris had a better career than him, if that's
the technicality of it. Did he know? Yeah, alf the players we
named had a better career. But I think about this. Here's my thing,
Devin, you said, Devin Harris, Yeah, Devin Harris has how
many has been on how many teams? A lot? In fact, they
they made a statement that he could get a real estate license because he owned
a home in everything time where he played. I think he had to play
for the Bucks at one point too, didn't he like a minute? Yeah?
Yeah. So my thing about that is, I'm like, I'm calling
these people bus and stuff like that. And this sounds a little harsh,
but I'm taking away my personal feelings. I just feel like, if you're
a Time five player, you should have some type of career we can stand
on, some type of something like, oh, okay, he did this,
this and this. You're talking about Andrew bog and Andrew Bugles. What
does your career stats have to be for you not to be a bush?
Chris Bosh say he's not a bus. I'll say, Chris Boss is not
a bus. Before he came to Miami twenty and ten, I forgot what
draft pick he was, but he was the man in Toronto. Was he
by himself? Yes he was. But I feel like if you are a
person, or if you're the if you're that guy on that team, then
you're not a bust like like him. Going to Miami was just him getting
up with other superstars that he was a superstar in himself in his own right.
Kevin Love was a superstar in his own right before he came to Cleveland
is mante ellis a bus close. So, but you can't sit here and
tell me, like all these guys deserve the title of in busses when we
when we put when you put bust with a player, you think, oh,
use the number one draft pick and you averaging five points a game.
But it's there. To me, the criteria should be widening because we widening
for everything else, like the Hall of Fame in itself. We don't know
what the quateria is for Hall of Fame. But all these people who are
in the Hall of Fame and who shooting not in the Hall of Fame,
Like why is this person there? Why is this person there? Like why
is it this person? Why is this person holding the title of a bus.
That's because you're judging Hall of Fame off of NBA alone and not everything
else. I'm judging it. Yeah, you're right, I'm judging it off
what you did in the NBA. I'm not judging it. And then on
top of that, we can throw a little world play in there, but
I don't care what you did in the Olympics. So Kesey to his question,
is school Henderson a bust or not? It's too early to determine that.
Okay, Zeke, and you're calling him a bus bust capitol B.
I don't want to say capitol B. I said bus, just said bus.
And okay, let me ask a question. Let me ask you a
question. So and then we're gonna did the topic. But let's say school
Henderson. He's he turned this eight into twelve. He's going from twelve five
boards a game, maybe three a six. He turned the thirty six to
forty six. He's heard the nine point five in the thirty. Is he
not a bust? If this continues over two seasons, then yes, I'm
saying he up and all the stats. I would call him a bus after
year two simply because you were drafted because they thought you could change a franchise
when you were drafted to be the franchise player. So if you go in
year two like that, then you have to start saying, Scoot, I
don't know that you are the man or can get this done. Then you
can start having the bust conversations. But at fourteen games in, that's harsh.
Blake Griffin, I don't think Blake was a bus because Blake changed the
franchise. He made Duncan relevant again. He made the All Star Game relevant
again, and he was a killer. They just couldn't win the title.
Who was a killer? So yeah, I'm not calling everybody bus, but
some of these people bringing up bus you have more busting when you go back
and listen. Like Dang, I called him theer bus. Kenya Martin close
good role player, close, close to a bust. He was drafted pretty
high. People were dubbing him the next Lebron James. He was number one.
People were Martina Kenya Martin was never a time Lebron. Hold up,
well, hold up, no, he wasn't. Wait he's on the Gill
Show. Yeah, I'm thinking of someone. I'm sorry, You're right,
You're right, the one, the one I mean Lebron was twelve when Kenya
I confused the player. I'll let you know the player I'm talking. Key
Martin came two thousand. Bron came in two thousand and three because he played
with him and his daddy, I mean his son. He uh, but
Keny Martin was on his way out. Yeah kind of no, he would
drafted two thousand. Hmm. I want to say Elton brand I want to
say no, because he's been to that biggest and bigger Nations player Elton Bran.
I'm sorry they were calling Tyson Chandler the next Lebron. Yes, they
were, because then he came in after Lebron. Tyson Chandler came next after
Tyson Chan. The movie Coach Carter, there's a player in there called ty
Crane that they changed the name, but the character of the player that they
held as the next Lebron James was based on Tyson chanper Tyson Chandler was seven
foot how I don't know. People called you. People call it Jordan the
next. People call Lebron the next Jordan. What's your Pointandler plays center.
It don't matter. You can still be held the next great player. I
don't think it's in terms of, oh, the next Lebron. You're gonna
play small forward, the power forward. Chandler before Lebron, he was in
look it up draft us a man, Well you're even drafted. Uh,
let's find the draft here. I know, I don't know what this type
of Chandler was. Maybe a top five. About to find out Elton brand
bust or not bust? He was number one. Michael Oliver Candy bust.
Okay, I'll stand corrected again. It's not Ty Chandler. Oh my god,
Chandler was in O one. Chandler was in O one, not Lebron
was three. But it's it's Chandler a bus Yeah roh. He was one
of the most dominant power forwards of that eraror centers of that error. Zeke,
come on, man, you are hard on people. Do this with
you? What does the same draft class as Paul gasoul same draft class?
Well, Fammie Brown win number one thanks to Michael who she got easy,
so he can before we move on, that is not tig You want to
go to the Jordan's The Jordan class, Sam Buie is a bust. No,
obviously, go Cheorge Berkeley, goos. It was good. No,
you crazy? He was killing with he was killing. He was killing in
in his school. He wasn't killing with the rockets. He was a role
player. Sam Perkins, Sam left handed? I know you was about saying
Perkins was I feel like I feel like him? Care him and Thorpe their
play declined when they went to the NBA because they were playing roles. So
I don't want to say they are bust. I want to say so,
then why can't you say that about players now that they roll change when they
came to the league because their expectations are high. Did you take the expectation
want to hide them coming in? Yes and no. Just to clarify,
you were playing with greater players. Just to clarify, here you go.
Fun fact in the movie Coach Carter high Crane is based off of Tyson Chandler.
That doesn't take away for people to be a buzz I'm just saying people
were calling him the next Lebron James in the movie and find that article find
compared him Lebron Jaks. They were calling him the next Lebron James based on
their high school play, Tyson Chandler high School the league before Lebron's. I
don't know, but remember but remember even when Lebron was in high school,
players after him, he was better than players that were older than him.
In ninth grade, people were calling Lebron the next big thing. It doesn't
just because I'm older than you that that mean I'm not the next whatever.
While you're looking at me, I didn't say it. Don't look at me.
I didn't say it. Shoot, I'm just give it to you.
What he's so scoop you said he's a buzz. Kesey says too soon.
I say too soon, man, lighten up on, I got one more
class for you and I'm done. Seriously, we need to change the topic
of this buster. Nope, don't act me obvious question. Marcus Canby can
be busted. I like mar I like you. Man injury. Can't call
him a bus injury, bus injury, may great role player, good roa.
No, you know what, not a bust? Why what did he
do the NBA? What did he do NBA before he was traded everywhere he
was? He left the NBA though, But what did he do that makes
him so great from all the other players you call a bus from from him?
Size, the handles, the handles, him averaging twenty and ten and
the twenty win with Minnesota. You made that up that man ain't never averaged
no double duble. Wow, you really look it up. Yeah, there
was no double double. He would have been in every n VP conversation.
He has never been in the MVP conversation. Mar Barry Steph. You said
Stefan Marlberry averaged a double double win because he has never been in the MVP
conversation. He has never led the league in any position at all. He
had handles. He had handles and a bad temper. Oh, how dare
you? Okay? So here we go. He was traded for real and
thank you Milwaukee. So when he was in okay, So here we go.
He was drafted eighth nine, traded for real. Rookie year horrible,
and he gradually got better. Did he average a double double? He averaged
I'm sorry, he did not average the double He averaged twenty one and eight,
nineteen and nine, twenty and eight, twenty two and eight, twenty
and eight, twenty three and seven. You're right, it's not a double.
You know it's not a double double. He's not a double double.
I'm sorry, But you call him a bus. I might call him a
bus. I said close, And you talk about me being the gym because
I'm tight with money. Now, one more Anton Walker and then I'm done.
I don't think Walker was a buzz He's a champion. He made Boston.
He made Boston man. He made Boston. He's, at the end
of the bitch, champion. He made Boston relevant. And the only reason
I brought this class up is because you know who was else in that class?
Right? The mamba. What was it? Yeah? Close, a
low key real close. Kobe was real close. He was thirteen in that
draft. He was real close what he was he was He was number one
thirteen of that draft and he became a superstar like Giannis, number thirteen said,
and guess who else was right behind him though? In that draft class
Pejo Strajakovic not a bus, Steve Nash instead of bus, Jermaine O'Neill not
a bus. Close, Jermaine O'Neil. Bust but not top five top five
if you're listening. Changed the episode titled to bust or Not Anyways, let's
move on, Jesus, so we got we got three teams that are currently
Wait, I'm sorry before you go on, because you're saying bust or not.
We have an injury to report. Poor Ziggiz is out for a week
or two due to a calf injury. And it's it's funny because it depends
on what you're talking about next day. Poor zingis injury bro, he is
injury pros. He's a bust alone anyways, Minnesota timber Woods are eleven and
three. Okay, see Thunder eleven and four. Orlando Magic are eleven and
five. Do you see any of these three teams making the playoffs or play
in too soon to tail? Too soon to tail, because Minnesota, you
can. You can take a nap all you want. We know we've seen
teams that started one ended nine play offs at all. We've also seen teams
go eight. I'm asking y'all because I'm what I'm want to what I want
to try to see is an eyeball test of these teams and what do you
think? Well, my only thing is i just want you to remember how
last season went. Yeah, the Lakers, I'm not talking. I'm not
even gonna talk about the Lakers. I'm all years now. The Utah Jazz,
right, good example, they were on fire to start the season that
first twenty five games. Like I said, players play good, But when
you get to the games thirty thirty five, forty forty five, fifty,
that's when that's when you feel it. That's true, that's when things get
real. But I think did Dad did not have like that? When you
know who is built for the NBA? Do they have a lot of injuries
though? Oh Utah, No, No, they bust their team up shortly
after though. So I'm gonna say this I'm agree with Kesey one hundred and
fifty for saying I still think it's too soon. But out of all those
teams, Minnesota has the best thing. I just feel like it's a copboy
when we if you say this in game fifty or they built for this,
it's fifty games in either by then it's either put up like this were looking
at trade. Minnesota has the roster. They should have the roster to compete.
They won't, but they have the roster to go the long haul.
They should. Anthony Edwards is probably the most improved player, not that that's
saying anything because he's killing. They have their new version of the Twin Towers.
I'm not a go Bear fan. I don't think it'll last. But
Minnesota, out of all these teams, to me, have the best chance,
and I wouldn't find seeing it. I can see I can see,
okay see in Minnesota making it, making the playoffs, and I guess,
but I don't see Orlando. I think they're still young. They have they
have some good pieces, they have some young pieces, but I don't see
them making like the playing I don't see them making no noise in the East.
Yeah, I think they're just young and athletic and stuff like that.
Who Orlando. Yeah, but as far as okay See and uh Minnesota,
I think they have to They third in the East right now. They've beaten
the Lakers, They've beaten the Bucks. Magic, they're playing, let's beat
quite a few teams. I'm sorry. They're an nd season tournament. So
to say they are only what you say, they only have a little bit
of noise right now is a little harsh, hated number three in the East.
I just say, I don't see them going to like the playing there
on the sixth six game winning streak. Yeah, but like I said before,
they're young, athletic. They have a good team over there. I
think they're still missing some pieces as far as like they got. They got
Joe Ingles as the little veteran RANPA. Yeah. So like I feel like
I'm not sitting here saying, like, you know, here they're the team
to beat. I'm just saying that they you know, they got a nice
like a little squad. In fact, the Orlando Magics are tied with the
Phoenix Suns for the longest winning streak right now, six winning streak. They
beat the Hot Pacers Pacers are selectively hot. They beat Denver the first difference
going through some struggles. I think folks are starting to see they beat Boston.
I think folks are starting to see that Murray and they just bet Boston
the other night as they just put the claps on the buck. I think
people are starting to see how Murray is critical to the success of the Denver
next I think we all knew that. I didn't. I did, I
didn't, because that's why they haven't been one year. They have a healthy
Murray, they win a championship. That is not a coincidence. Now,
does Murray get all to just do he's supposed to get? No. I
think he gets a bonus this year if he makes the All Star Game.
Probably won't happen. He won't because he won't. He's injured. You know
what I'm saying. He's not even an All Star Game. Okay, but
he won't even be outble for first or I'm sorry, all NBA team,
I see what you said. He's not eligible and you have to play.
He's been out, he's been out, he's eligible. He's been out like
game ten though they're in like game seventeen. Yeah, next week we'll be
doing protections. Yeah, mister twenty twenty five games. Yeah, but no,
I I didn't. I gotta start paying attention to Orlando now since y'all
mentioned that, I see the record. Uh, but I gotta start paying
attention to him. I don't think it'll last because the East is deep.
A lot of a lot of Claillers in the Eastern Conference. So we'll see.
Time will tell, John will tell. And then before we get up
out of here, we went to the bus game on Friday, watched the
Milwaukee Bucks barely get past the Washington Wizards, and an interesting conversation came up,
as it always does. Is Jordan Poole the best player on the Washington
Wizards? Kesey says, no, cac would you like to give the people
your reasoning. Kuzma is the best player on that roster. I'm taking Kuzma
over Pool all day. Now, here's my thing about that. I understand
where you're coming from. I do. I do, because Kuzma is probably
the best all around player on that team. But from what I've seen,
it's Jordan Poole's team. This is Jordan Pool. I've seen him getting a
lot of minutes we go beause at the end of the games, who was
on the bench and who was in the game, who got the shot and
who didn't one of just because he's a clown and that's probably why he went
in it for the last two minutes. He's a clown. Let's just call
what it. Jordan Pull is a clown. And if I had the SoundBite,
I would KG won him out the league. And my thing is,
I'm not mad at him. I'm not I'm not saying he should be out
the league. I'm just seeing like Jordan Poor needs a reality check. And
if the reality check is him getting sit down to the G League, that's
the reality check he needs. But he needs a reality check to say,
hey, you can't do what these guys do unless you produce us wins.
I don't care you averaging twenty points a game. I don't care. I'm
I don't care if you averaging twenty points a game. I don't care if
you averaging twenty five a game. My point is, you can't do If
you can't produce with w's and get us wins, you're you're useless. And
to Sex's point, here's what KG had to say bringing Chimp environment in here.
You learned just all the state. Nigga, this what you just what
you're Oh, that's what I'm saying. Niggas own up professionals. Bro,
you gotside because you went to fall in line. Bro, That's what I'm
saying. Niggas like this don't belong to all league. Bro, he does
not belong in the league as a he's the head of a team. Pete,
Nah, I don't want my son out of know Nigga like that you
say talking to teammates. Shut up, my nigga. That's my team.
I got it Nigga through the town schnop like like, Bro, you can
say what they want about it. I ain't never disrespect the game. Ain't
never disrespected the position of being. You know, they bringing chimp environment in
him. So you know what I'm saying, I apologize for the language.
My thing is, like like KG said, I'm gonna say he should be
he shouldn't be long in the league. I just think he needs reality check.
You gat he got money, now, he got a championship. He
acts like anybody tell him nothing that Instagram models I did seem anyway. But
the point is my thing about it is it is I think about it.
He just needs to reality He doesn't need a reality check. I'm gonna say,
like this, Jordan Poole, but I don't think I'm sorry, I
don't think he's he's the best player on Washington Wizards. I'm sorry. EASi
League twice on Sunday. No he's not. Kuzma is and and gameplay shows
who's the better. And like KG said, you come from a championship pedigree
and you come bring this in which state said you came a critical piece of
you come bring this backyard Ali basketball to Washington. Come on, Pool,
you you can be he can be better than Cools, But right now,
currently in my books, he's not better than Cools. Let me ask you
this. Do you think Pool is doing this on purpose and an effort to
get traded because he's also rumors are swirling that he is on the trade block.
But who wants that attitude? That's the thing. Nobody wants that attitude,
So he can't be doing it on purpose. Be very careful. He
could be one of those players that could be on the band list like oj
May did, Rashad McCants, Gilbert because everybody don't realize how good Rashad mccamts
was because his attitude sucks so bad. What's that other dude? So of
going to key point, going to key boy. Kuzma does average like twenty
three game pool average eighteen. So let me say this, and when average
they averaged montha they minutes though they averaged. Let me say this, Okay,
Jordan Poole is the better shooter. I can't say that because he tricking
his I'm gonna say a word, but I ain't gonna say it on here.
Kuzma has a better basketball IQ, I'll give you that. And Kuzma
has a better team effort and he makes people. They in the same age
group, though, ain't they Not by much? Not by much. But
my thing is, though you can tell Cools picked up some stuff from being
under Lebron. Pool was in a championship pedigree environment, and it looked like
he picked up Jack Didley's ship play. You played with one of the greatest
shooters in NBA history, two of the greatest players, two of the two
of the greatest NBA shooters in NBA history, probably and Thompson. If you
really want to be you really want to be technical, and you come to
Washington with that bullcrap you're doing, Steph lookaways, he's disrespecting the game.
You're disrespecting the legacies that that you played under. It's almost like Stephan them
didn't even put no game in your ear. Well remember Kesey after he got
traded, it came out that nobody really liked him. Problem But we see
why now, Yeah, yeah, I was. It was Unfortunately. I
don't want this for Jordan Poole because he is a hometown kid. When his
shot is on is on. Clay Thompson gave him credits, saying he was
a critical piece of that championship team. I haven't heard Kuzma's name in trade
talks, but I have heard with Jordan Poole's, so you know the party
is about that though. I was co signing for Pool all this time,
saying that they needed to get with a Clay for him. Remember that I
said, if anybody gonna leave, it's gonna be Clay. I remember you
saying that could we look like a fool man was the future, And that's
what I That's what I picked up. He was gonna be the future.
All he had to do was follow suit with Steph shit that's all he had
to do. You got the game right there in front of you. You
got all the game knowledge right there in front of you to be successful.
Because Steph didn't come in with higher expectations. He was in the same boat
as you when you came in the league, low draft pick. You know
what I'm saying, low draft pick. Nobody had no real big expectations out
of you. But you both were good ball players and the league's you know
what I'm saying, injuries help you get your career started, and then here
you go. You turned. You're gonna almost get yourself black ball from the
NBA if you keep on the path that he's on. That's unfortunate. Man,
Do you think that that's unfortunate? Do you think it's that serious?
Well, his reputation right now, BRANCHI, it's a lot of talk.
There's no KG, who, in my opinion, was not a great person
but a great baller. You got Kate G saying that, because usually KG
is with the Smiths, as y'all was saying, Oh, I'm with the
Smiths, right, You got Kate G saying that you're bad for the NBA.
That says a lot, bro That says a lot. I don't like
the way you put it, put that together, But I get where you
coming. Why you don't like the way I put it together. You said,
like KG, of all people said it. Everybody knows that because everybody
know KG has had a horrible attitude too. But he never disrespected the game.
You never dispected the game, never disrespected his teammates. Was he hyped,
yes, did he talk yes, but he never was like it never
it never got to the point where he was like, damn well it affected
his play that too. If a coach bull kJ, he used to do
this all right, who I got you? So that's why I'm like,
That's why I was, And that's why I think KG is so offended,
because KG feel like, I'm in that category where I talk shit all game,
but at the same time I ain't gonna disrespect the game or the legends
I play with. Exactly. Poor, poor, poor play didn't getting him
kicked out of gonna state his mouth. His attitude did. And when you
have a player like that where their attitude got them kicked out, where got
them in the league still? But they're he's still making a hundred grand over
a hundred million, ain't making a hundred million, you got a pretty fair
contract. So guys like that, I donna say don't deserve it to be
like I just feel like it's kind of heart I just think he need a
reality check. I don't know what that reality check. You think you need
a reality check? I didn't have anything for Bucks Star, but if you
guys would like to bring something up the time, are we concerned that the
Bucks are barely beating teams that they should be killed. Whether you win by
one or you win by twenty, a win is a lucky win a win?
How long are you gonna say that for a team that's trying to figure
things out and you still win it and pulling it off. I'm with it.
You went down twenty one by the Boston Celtics, smashing you all game,
you get the game tied up, and you only lose by three.
I can live with that because I know the heart and the the the intensity
to get better is there if they were getting smacked and they were losing,
Hey, Griffin, it's trying to pull you into the all doesn't have a
talk. So what you're saying is you have hope for the future just based
off because they're not getting smacked. Yeah, they're not getting smacked. This
a new environment with a new superstar. You gotta you gotta give them some
credit. Man, How many how many games are you saying? Cool,
all right, we're still we're still working things out. How many games?
What do you mean they only lost five games on twelve? Ask you how
many games in total? Actually thirteen and five, ain't they After the nice
wan they will be thirteen and five? How many games in total are you
giving them to figure it out? I mean, how many games are they
giving the Clippers? Because are they seven and eight right now? Who?
The Clippers? The barbecue chicken? They ain't got no coming. The Lakers,
they ain't got nothing coming. I'm asking I'm this is a serious question.
This is not no Joe. I'm asking you how many games are you
giving them to figure it out? Because they already played seventeen? So next
week is your is YR? Is your U twenty thirty? By game thirty,
the Bucks should be By game thirty eight, the Bucks should be on
the same majority of on the same page. Okay, game thirty. Are
you saying top five in the Eastern Conference? I mean, right now,
are you saying they're top five in the Eastern Conference. Over they'll stay there.
They'll stay in the top five. Okay, are you I'm just trying
to see I'm trying to get his measure in here, because you're saying thirty
games like well, winning record, because they can be thirty games, will
should be in one two okay, because they could be fifteen to fifteen thirty
games, they'll see in the top three, steal guaranteed. Okay. So
you're saying fift thirty games top three, like, okay, I can deal
with it. Finish the season top three, well they Canada, meaning now,
but well, I see what you came with, bron all right,
Gray, but you feel in the same way. I'm already somewhat concerned,
but it's not a concern where we need to bust this thing up. I
never thought Adrian Griffin was the guy. I still don't because it takes a
special kind of coach to coach superstars. I think losing Terry Stotts was critical
to our team because he had that leadership of head coaches. Bucks don't have
any head coaches on the bench helping coach these superstars. Hold on, let
me stop you right now. Send me one accolade that Terry Stots got.
That makes him credible as a head coach. Because remember he was coaching in
Portland and they went and they aske whipped every year, and they went to
the playoffs every year. But then they got they ass whipped every year,
but the playoffs every year but two because Dame natural talent. It wasn't because
of his coaching. I'm not gonna respond. So so so when when when
they lose, it's it's not the coaches, but when they win, it
is coaching. If you got a superstar like Dame in his prime and he
can get you to the playoffs, your coaches should get you to the third
or fourth, get you to the conference finals. Rights once they did not,
No, because they couldn't get past Steph. So was Mike Brown a
good coach when he coached Lebron? No, Lebron got him over the hump.
I told you I didn't think Mike Brown was a good coach. To
tell he Sacramento, Okay, he's a good coach. It's Phil Jackson a
good coach. Of course. Jordan got him over the hump. Kobe got
him over the hump. Shaq got him over the hump. It's but a
good coach. A former two time Coach of the Year was a good coach.
Jan got him over the hump because he didn't make adjustments. That's why
they were losing every year before they got that championship. That's what I'm talking
about right there. That part is what I'm talking about. You can tell
the coaches who are coaches when they come playoff time because they get you wins.
Well, ain't nobody even producing that well? Eric Sposure, look what
Miami did. Good Coachure now good coach even though he had Lebron and Dwayne
Wade, Steve it was in the NBA finals last year. The great coach.
They was in the NBA Finals with just Jimmy Butler and Bam out of
Bio and a one legged Kyle Laurie at the Sea. Get the immigrants.
So don't tell me the ain't no coaching. Don't forget which ones which ones?
All about laughing at that because I support immigration. So I'm gonna say
that. You see where I'm going when I say what coaching does different?
Got over? Yeah, okay, So I'm gonna say you said what I
said? What said you say what I'm gonna say, like this, the
luckiest son of the did you forget that they were games when they had what
you call it as they Mark? But as you said, coaches aren't supposed
to get you over those perses second rounds. Steve Kerr got them over that
multiple times. Mark couldn't get him past that first or second. I'm gonna
say this about you only had one year to do it. I'm gonna say
this about he had to. It all started when he's let me stop Markle
too much of a the NBA black balled him. I'm like, I'm gonna
keep it a buck NBA. I believe black bottom because he wasn't a house
negro. Yeah, you know what the house negro is. Yep, Sit
down, sir, don't you talk about that? Be quiet. He spoke
up against things that was against his spiritual belief and he's been blackballed ever since.
But there's a part two that I share with y'all off the hot mic
because of some inside information of why he's been blackballed too. He needs to
go get it well, he needs to go ahead and he needs to make
things right with Jerry West. I'm believe it at that. I don't think
anyway, the Milwaukee Bucks, I'm going to give them a little more time
for chemistry. But adding Dane to me, I feel like we should be
blowing people out and we're not barely winning doesn't work for me. We just
barely beat a four and eleven team, and it was beating us by thirty.
But Dame is having a who the worst start to an NBA career he
I mean, worst start to the NBA season he's had since he's been in
the league. And we're still in the top two. So just imagine when
Dame really started catching fire and he really started catching his rhythm and game about
game thirty year about thirty thirty five is when you'll see Dame catch his rhythm.
And I think the other part there might be next year. As we'll
put that out there, it might be next year. And we all agree
at this table the Championship of bus, Well, what you mean next year?
I said, by game thirty to thirty five, he'll have his rhythm.
Dame just trying to find his rhythm. Though, I'm telling you,
basketball is a rhythm game, and until you find your rhythm, you're gonna
shy struggles well and to be honest, abmitted to find his rhythm. And
I'm gonna say this too, I think we're all so seeing and appreciating what
Chris Middleton brings in his ball club because all the games that we've been getting
blown out, Middleton has not had either minutes or he has not contributing the
way that we like him to. Well, I feel like I feel like
I'm sorry. And he looks hobbled. We saw him on Friday and his
minutes look forced him. He's on the he's on the trade block. I
heard minutes look for I heard, I heard him, and I heard the
Bucks of auctioning and all him in a bow champ for a trade. I
don't like. My thing is this bow champ is what's gonna help us get
with the Middleton. But I don't think he's good at getting who you really
want in the trade. Hey, I like to fight in boat champ though.
You see we told Jordan Poole like man, back up, man you.
My thing is the Bucks don't have an identity. We have identity crisis,
and you don't get that identity if you don't have it. Starting off,
I think this is lack of coach experience. If you don't have it
starting off, you can't get it later on in the season. But I
just feel like it's it's the longer it stays like this, the more it's
iffy. And if he teams don't make it to the NBA Championship, if
he teams don't do that, if he teams get bounced on the first round.
Last year, I didn't see it. I'm not even gonna lie to
you. I didn't see it last year. You seen it. I think
Drake seeing it was tap dancing. I wasn't. My only thing is called
it last year. I said, see, I seen something wrong with the
bucket. This year, did dance like a championship team? You you were
saying, I don't say, y'all, then don't just put it on because
I called it out at the beginning of the season. You know you called
it out after your twenty twenty five games. Yeah, Drake called it out
because we kept getting blue out by these good teams that were supposed to be
beating or at least competing with. Yeah, I didn't. I never called
it. I had faith all year. This year, my eyes because we're
fans this year, my eyes are open wide and I don't like what I
see and I'm like this, I'm gonna say, and this is when you're
gonna be wrong. Hold up, I'm gonna sit at this table right now.
At this point in the season, the Milwaukee Bucks are not the favorite
to win the championship. They're not the favorite to come out the East right
now. And I'll tell you this now. On November twenty, November twenty
six, at six fifteen, the Bucks will be in the NBA Finals.
Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up? Old Ugh say
it again. The Bucks will be in the NBA Finals. I said that
on eleven, twenty six, twenty twenty three, that's six fifteen PM.
I need to be a part of that now. Wow, I would love
to agree with my brother on November twenty six. I don't see as of
today and the team I'm watching now, I do not see an NBA Finals
pathway, is it not? You put your thumb? Well, we have
it on tape. But like I said, right now, dancing around it.
Dance, But like I said, dance the Bucks. Shut up.
I get a different vibe from the Bucks this year than I did last year.
And the vibe as I'm getting this, players are eager to get better
and you can see it, and they play in a body language. Body
language held you a lot about a team. The Bucks whole body language during
this time last year was even off to me. Anybody was just saying no,
I ain't saying that because they're still working. They're working hard. It's
just it feels like we It feel like we missing one one thing and our
rotation is off. I don't know who gotta switch something, but it's one
piece in our roster outside of Jay Crowder that's not right, and we all
know what that is and who that is, who Chris Middleton. But this
is the thing about Chris Mility. I'm telling you now, by trade deadline,
Chris's medals will not be a Milwaukee Buck. I'm believing. I don't
think they're gonna fully bust the roster like that. You're not gonna bust the
roster because you're not well. You just go for somebody younger that can shoot
just as well as Chris. Because Chris can't defend. So him defending days
is over because I'm looking at it. When we at the games, they're
going right past Chris like the knees. So Chris gotta go. So why
would anyone want the knees though, because he's still an elite score. He's
stealing an elite score. You can if you throw boat champion there, that's
what I think you can. I think both champs the piece. The only
person you see now you see why. That why I said what I said.
When I've seen that rumor, it makes total sense. The only person.
But the question is we're not gonna get I don't know who that replacement
is. Buddy, Buddy, hell y'all want him. So I'm gonna say,
like bloody Hill, don't go or don't guard like that. Like a
bucket, I'm keeping nearly sixty four. I'm keeping middle six six because the
bucks are small now with loss of holiday, bucks are small. Did you
see our lineups? We are small. Pat Connington, we need to do
something with him. Okay, shout out to three lead company and everything you
do in real estate. But the gameplay. No, okay, I'm gonna
say this about the bucks. I don't see championship now. It's early.
Casey likes to give twenty five. I like to give all Star break,
All Star break for what predictions. I'm gonna still do it next week.
No, No, No, ain't no talking about I've been quite a long
start break because the first forty have been played. The ceison doesn't really start
until after the All Star break. Let's keep it a buck for the playoffs.
If you can't tell your team what they look like by All Star break,
you can't tell my end. Obviously it's on a downward spot. Well,
I'm gonna say it like this, I have high hopes for the Bucks.
I'm not liking what I'm seeing just yet, but i have hopes.
I don't like what I see and uh like, well, well, like
I said before, we'll put some of the ridictions next week, because this
is past key, this key episode. That's what I'm prank. Name at
the title episode, they got twenty five games, so they got six possible
trades for Chris Middleton out there. One is Ben Simmons. No, seriously,
someone predicted that. No, oh god, No, Number five.
Number five is Gordon Hayward. Nope, No, he's washed. Bus there
you go. Not top five? But oh what what draft was? He
teams teams and bringing a former Milwaukee Buck back to Milwaukee, Michael Malcolm Broder,
Tobias Harris, No, no, no, Tobias Harrison played for Milwaukee.
Yeah, he got traded as a part. I forgot what deal he
got traded on, but he would played for US. We drafted him.
Also, Gordon Hayward was the nine pick by Utah by the way. Also
number three is Andrew Wiggins. I think that Washington is really I mean Washington
Golden State is really interested in boat Champ right now. Serious, Yeah,
be out your sources. Don't worry about that. I got mine. I
gonna lie. Boat Champ Champions might be the player of the future, flourish
in the right system. It's part in here. Also they are as much
as they are also considering the deal with Portland again bringing in Jeremy Grant.
No, no, I'll take Wigans though. And the number one probably who
the Bucks are going to trade for is they just waiting on Chicago. They
really waiting on Chicago to pull that trigger on that thing like that. But
here's the thing, a rental though his contract set, he'll stay, he'll
stay, he start, But at the end of the l at the end,
they had an opportunity to get him and they didn't want them. But
what I'm saying, nobody wanted them. Come on here, get your mind
right, get the championship. I'll take that. So you'll trade Chris Middleton
for the mar Rozan no problem, even if you got to give a boat
Champe. No. Yeah, here's the thing, because you can always make
boat Champ another off for a few years down the line. He's still on
this rookie deal. He got two years left on the Listen. Here's the
thing. Who said he's gonna offer bow CHAMPI extension, not no big one?
Well off, not a big one. How much whatever he's he won't
get the max for his class. I know he won't get the max,
but how much are you? How much do you give it? Boat?
They'll give bow Champ fifteen to twenty million a year? What or let me
tell you something. Bow Champ reminds me. No, ten million three years.
Bow Champ reminds me of how Yanni started. No, let me finish.
When Yani started, he was not that great he was he was not
that great bow Champ and his second year is better than what Gianni's was in
his second year. That Champ Dame has already said it. In one on
ones, bow Champ has beat them all. Yeah, I tell you a
nice guy too beat them all. My bad, he's beat them all.
I'm not saying bow champions better than anybody right now, but you can't be
like the Los Angeles Lakers and give up all your talent early Bowl champions here
and he wants to stay, pay that man. Let him flourish until he's
in a million. I didn't say one hundred million. I said fifteen to
twenty a year. I say how many years? Give him a three given
a four year deal, I'll say three years, sixty. I'll take you.
That's so, that's what the bus probably would offer him right now.
But let him go. Flourish him in the lineup where he'll get more minutes
like Chicago for a year, and then when his when his contract is up,
put an offer out there, because either Chicago got to match your offer
or the boat Champ take your offer. This but I would have this discussion
with Boat Champ. I'm gonna give you a chance to go to Chicago's.
We're gonna trade you with Middleton to Chicago. You're gonna get a lot of
minutes. You're gonna be able to see if you can flourish him not in
a higher row. If you do, we're gonna make an offer that nobody
else can resist, nobody else can pay, and bring you back here on
next to Jannis. That's how I would look it. As a GMF.
I'm Milwaukee, That's how I'm looking at it. And sports writers are calling
Marjon Bouchamp the most attractive trade piece out there right now, I can see
that. I just don't see what y'all seeing as far as him being he
gonna get paid and he's not getting paid. Number two, I also don't
well him getting traded, no problem, because we need somebody who can shoot,
who can shoot like Middleton, and that would be the Marta Rosen.
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