WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:07.519 This it's the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. Well, fat people, 2 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:10.439 we really hate it. I'm speaking for all fat people we hate being 3 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:14.039 hot. Show me one fat person that likes being hot. I'm have some 4 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:18.359 words of them like why are you playing? You like being hot? Bro 5 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:23.719 and co Holt, Marnie Winfield, the little things that I appreciate now in 6 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.559 life. And this gas station is the gas station of all gas stations. 7 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:31.160 And what makes it so special It's got like a coffee bar in there, 8 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:39.240 kind of It is the twenty ninth of June twenty twenty three. My name's 9 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:43.280 Corey Winfield. My name is Martie Winfield. And this is the two seventeen 10 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:48.560 Recovery podcasts. Not live but recorded, but live that makes sense. We're 11 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:52.880 from DeWitt, Michigan, at a secret location, and I'm here with very 12 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:59.200 special guests. I'm here with Caitlyn. Thank you well, Caitlyn, How 13 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:03.159 are you good? How are you doing well? And our other special guest 14 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:08.760 is our good old buddy, our our friend none others Justin, Yes, 15 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:14.560 Justin, how are you doing great? How are you doing fabulous? Fabulous? 16 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:18.840 But I'm glad you're doing great. What is better fabulous or great? 17 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:25.560 Fabulous? Fabulous? Yeah, for sure, fabulous m interesting. I would 18 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:29.760 think great would be just as good. But fabulous is a great state of 19 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:32.719 mind, great place to be. So welcome. We are in a secret 20 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:38.159 location because we're doing some secret things. Would you guys say or is it 21 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:46.359 public knowledge? Public knowledge? Okay, we're at a Is this search retreat 22 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:53.239 for the recovery community organizations in the world or just Michigan, just us, 23 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.640 we're the special ones. Okay. Well, it's fun though, because we're 24 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:00.920 here at a retreat and you know, I love also about a retreat that 25 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:06.480 the room smell funny, that and bugs and being hot. I love being 26 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:08.639 hot. Oh wait, then I already say that. No, people don't 27 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:13.479 like don't like being I don't like being hot. It's a thing. Well, 28 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.960 the whole idea of retreat center is like to get away right from So 29 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:23.439 it's this whole kind of being in nature. And I don't know, there's 30 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:28.719 something about there's this like fifth grade camp feel what's going on here? It 31 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:30.800 is? It's like one stuff up from fifth grade camp though, because we 32 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:36.840 have rooms with private bathrooms versus all having to share a cabin and bunk beds. 33 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.120 Are they private? No, they're not. You can hear your neighbor. 34 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:42.840 Yeah. And there's a door like in ours, and we were trying 35 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.919 to break into the next door. It's a room. We're like, can 36 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:47.080 we get in there? Does that mean they can get in here? It's 37 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:52.879 the two bathrooms side by side. Wanted I figured that out. It's a 38 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.840 two bathroom side by side because I can when there's somebody in the bathroom next 39 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:59.319 to me, it sounds like they are in my room. Where would be 40 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:05.520 the benefit of having adjoining bathrooms? The only thing I can think, I 41 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:07.840 don't know what's going on. I mean, you see, I don't I'm 42 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:09.479 left out of the drops, so I can't hear. I can only guess. 43 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:14.719 I can use my imagination the advantage. I don't know. I think 44 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:16.879 for the cleaning ladies, that's been my thought. It like maybe when they 45 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:21.639 were chained, like reconstructing it or whatever, and it used to be like 46 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:23.319 shared bathrooms, and then they had to split it so that everybody had their 47 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:27.199 own bathroom, and so they put a door so that cleaning ladies can like 48 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.520 open it and just like mop the whole thing. Huh. I think there's 49 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.680 a union out there for cleaning ladies that were like, nobody's ever cared about 50 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:38.199 us like that, they would never do that just for us, fabulous. 51 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.639 Well, yeah, that is nice, Justine. That's as a fabulous thing 52 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:44.759 that they did for them, if that in facted. But that that's a 53 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:52.159 better um answer than when I gave, which was sexual relationships. So that's 54 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.439 probably not why they did that. No, that's I'm sure not why Hey, 55 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:59.759 hey bar being there pooping, Oh great, get over here when I 56 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.759 have actual relationship now that that would be set up for that just saying, 57 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:04.479 I mean, there might be some people that like this stuff. I'm just 58 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.479 not one of them. There's a lot of people that probably are are just 59 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:11.800 like me. But but the fact that we've all thought about this this much 60 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:16.720 is what makes me laugh. Yeah, like we all and then they left 61 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:19.759 one and he's meant there, you know, it's like, that's cute. 62 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:24.519 Does your do you guys's room have a double bed end a single bed? 63 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:27.560 Yeah? Look like a tiny little dusk in between, yes, Like who 64 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:31.240 gets relegated to the single bed? And then the youth bibles there too in 65 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:36.319 case a little light reading, some light reading, but light reading because it's 66 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:41.360 not an adult Bibles, right, because gosh, you know they don't want 67 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:46.199 to leave the real thing there. You ain't twelve. They no hope for 68 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:50.079 you. You can't get this down. Yeah, you should have learnt been 69 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:56.439 learned that long time ago. You get the little bid? Did you sleep 70 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:59.439 in the little bed justin No? I did not, No, And you 71 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:03.439 took the b big bed as well. Yeah, my suitcases were relegated to 72 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:06.240 the little bed there. Well. It was weird because I went up there 73 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:11.240 the other day to use the restroom, right, and I heard somebody in 74 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:14.160 the next room and he was like on a phone call and I was on 75 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.160 speaker, and I'm like, is this weird that I'm listening to? You 76 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:19.600 know what? I'm like, I'm like, you're clearly here. Here's me. 77 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:21.920 Like there was no stop in it, Like I was there. I 78 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:25.079 was there for a reason. He could have taken his phone call somewhere else, 79 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.040 you know what I'm saying, Like, he could have taken his phone 80 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.759 call somewhere else. And I was like, well, I'm not here for 81 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:34.079 just killing time, even though I kind of want, but yeah, I 82 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.480 don't know. I felt weird, And then I was today I was like, 83 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:39.879 wonder what guy that was. And I don't know if it was a 84 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.120 dude I was in group with today or if it was that guy that came 85 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.279 in earlier, but it's one of those two. I narrowed it down. 86 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:49.600 Yeah, that's how my day went yesterday. But that but this is a 87 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:54.439 it's a fun thing. It's kind of a good thing for the recovery community 88 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:58.279 organizations in Michigan to kind of come together and I kind of talk about some 89 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:00.680 stuff. And this is my favorite part of it, is like after like 90 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:02.120 hanging out and getting to talk to you, Caitlin, because you guys are 91 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:12.639 in Potoski and you're with the Community Recovery Alliance cry Craw Craw, which I 92 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:16.519 have some associations with a little bit your Presidentcoria. Probably no, Cory, 93 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.959 No, I don't say it. But Dale Hall, who was the founder, 94 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:23.439 reached out to me was like hey, and I remember that was such 95 00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:25.000 a big deal for me. He was like, I want you to be 96 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:28.199 on my board. Cory, Oh my god, really, And I remember 97 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.319 we were driving out and think it was like Thanksgiving or something, and I 98 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.279 was like, I felt like so cool and so privileged because I respect Dale 99 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:38.720 a lot and we had a mutual friend that was kind of going through some 100 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:42.040 things, and Dale and I came together with that, and you know, 101 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.439 we had lunch and breakfast a few times, and it was just just an 102 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.079 honor to be a part of that and for him to just go, Wow, 103 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:51.040 Corey, you're doing some good things, and I think you're doing good. 104 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:53.519 I want you to be a part of this, you know. And 105 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:57.519 I did for a little bit and then it just it was too busy, 106 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:00.000 so I went on my own way. But like what you guys doing POTASKI 107 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.759 is very similar to what we do sort of. I mean, we have 108 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.879 the same kind of title of a you know name, but we help people 109 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:13.839 in early recovery. And there's no there's no point of being like, wow, 110 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:15.680 we're not gonna do anything with them, and we really like you and 111 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.199 Martie and I both talked about it, and I think justin too, it's 112 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.360 like, we know, we gotta start doing stuff with the cra you know, 113 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.680 you guys are hour and a half away with some people are like, 114 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:27.279 oh, that's just right out the road, but it's not not when you 115 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.480 got any things going on and then you gotta drive bag and there for three 116 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:32.160 hours and do we have three hours you know, plus the hup much time 117 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.639 we're gonna be there, and how many times have we been like gonna come 118 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.720 see your center? And I'm like both ways and you're like, okay, 119 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.600 just didn't happen this week. And that's that's the thing. It's with what 120 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.800 we do, things come up last minute all the time, and with the 121 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:48.959 transportation, you know, taking people to and from treatment and helping them out 122 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:54.600 and getting to recovery services, it's it's tough and you might think, oh, 123 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.439 man, got nothing on the plate today, and time you get to 124 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.920 work, there's three people that have called me and I'm telling Justin, I'm 125 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.879 guess plan C now, like we're doing this and Justin's cool and he's been 126 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.600 doing it with me long enough now where he knows it's kind of like you 127 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.920 never know, you know, it's got nothing, I'm up today, Just 128 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.439 wait five minutes day. Yeah, And that's what's hard for I think some 129 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.439 of the recovery coaches that come in, you know, work in the industry 130 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.680 is some days it might be like that, but the fact that we get 131 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:24.199 called at eleven o'clock a night to go get people. It's it's not a 132 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.759 job that you can just be like, oh, I leave at five, 133 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.320 see you later, and some people, I guess can, but we like 134 00:08:31.440 --> 00:08:33.799 not to be because that's what our thing is. It's like, when people 135 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.919 need us, we want to be there for them. So it's it's a 136 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.480 different kind of job for some people. Some people who are just like, 137 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.840 man, but I'm sitting around all day not doing anything. I'm like, 138 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.759 oh, just wait, just wait, man. You know, you gotta 139 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:50.000 be ready when they do call. But what's um some of the fun things 140 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.440 that you guys do up in potask you. So we do a lot of 141 00:08:54.320 --> 00:09:00.840 recovery community events. We just opened our first community center, so it's a 142 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:05.080 small little place, but we get to have meetings there and we even let 143 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.000 people like use the space. So if there's a game coming on and the 144 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.120 Recovery House all wants to come down and watch the football game, they have 145 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.159 like a space that they can come and hang out. That's not you know, 146 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:18.879 that's outside of the house. Do something a little bit different. We 147 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:22.080 have like a little we call it the Quiet Room, but it's quickly becoming 148 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:26.960 the entertainment room, So we have games and we're gonna put some old gaming 149 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.200 units in there, you know, like a old being like we not like 150 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.399 ten or sixty four, like, you know, nobody has a wee anymore, 151 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:37.159 so we're gonna put like and we have like Dance Dance Revolution and Guitar 152 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.039 Hero and all those like nice quote unquote old school games. They're not old 153 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:45.879 school to any of us. But and then we have you know, we 154 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.519 always have a coffee pot on and so it's just like a nice community gathering 155 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.840 space. That's what our community kept telling us that they wanted. There's not 156 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:58.240 anything like that right now in Potaski. So now we have one and it 157 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.240 opened in April, so it's still brand noon. We're still getting it up 158 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.000 and running, but we're starting some multiple Pathway meetings, which has been really 159 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.559 nice. And then we're trying to do more out in the community and throughout 160 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:13.840 Northern Michigan, helping to support recovery coaches in their work, but also just 161 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:22.159 bringing the recovery message to the whole community recovery friendly workplaces and family events and 162 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.120 awareness events and trainings. So we're really trying to get the word out there. 163 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:31.519 And then we have just like our regular drop in coaching available every day 164 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:35.919 from ten to four. Yeah that's fun. Yeah, it's tons of fun, 165 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:39.960 and it's something different every day and you don't know what you know, 166 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.799 you think you know what your day is going to be coming in And some 167 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.240 days that works out great because we do have some administrative time, and other 168 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:50.480 days you have a walk in who or somebody who calls you and you end 169 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:56.399 up spending four hours on the phone because they're in crisis, and so we 170 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:01.279 change course. And yeah, we do most that that same stuff at our 171 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:03.360 place. Like I said, we kind of have the same time and we 172 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:05.159 do most of the kind of the same stuff too, and it's exciting to 173 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.600 see people come in. And you know, we're lucky to have addiction treatment 174 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.120 services like right there, and we work very well with them and they help 175 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:16.840 us out a lot. And when somebody you know that may or may not 176 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:22.600 be in their program, you know, comes by and we'll help anybody out, 177 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:24.720 you know, But if somebody wants to start a meeting. But when 178 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:26.360 somebody in early recovery comes over and they're like, hey, I want to 179 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:30.159 start this meeting and it's this and it's not a it's not an a, 180 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:33.519 but it's this their own thing that they've kind of created or heard somebody else 181 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.159 kind of doing. Something similar, but they're running with it, you know, 182 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:39.159 they're they're creating their their rules, they're creating what to do and what 183 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.200 it's about, and and it's beautiful to see that start happening. And then 184 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.679 you see them come in with this new confidence, you know, and just 185 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:48.799 like when they pack the room full of people that want to be there with 186 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.879 them, And it's not really about the messaging, and I don't think. 187 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.080 I think it's more about like the camaraderie, the companionship, the fellowship, 188 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:00.320 the stuff that you're talking about with seeing with people with the same kind of 189 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:03.000 problem, you know. I think that's what it's about. And they believe 190 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.960 in this guy, you know what I'm talking about, and it's just it's 191 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:15.080 just it touches me, you know, like that's sorry, but you know 192 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.720 what I'm saying. Well, there's our second meeting that we started. Was 193 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:24.320 somebody from our local recovery house wanting to start a creative expressions group and started 194 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.559 their own. They call it here, and they meet every other Friday night 195 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.440 and they share poetry, they play the guitar, they you know, bring 196 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.720 whatever musical instruments they have and just come and hang out and and talk and 197 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:43.080 share their journeys and expressions through creative arts. Yeah, that's awesome and I 198 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:48.639 love that when these pure led groups are you know, it's something that's that 199 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.559 inspires them and it's someplace that it's something they want to go to, right. 200 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.200 I mean, we're so they're so kind of run of the mill meetings 201 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.919 that have been around forever. And that's fine, and they people have their 202 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.840 home groups and that's great too, But to have a place that they are 203 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.039 like it's their space, something that they've come up with, and it's something 204 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.840 that they show up because they want to show up and it's their own and 205 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.360 then you know, whoever comes it becomes their own too, you know. 206 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:22.679 So that's a really cool thing to watch happen. Your turn justin this is 207 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:26.279 cool to watch them come in and just do that. We're just have a 208 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:28.559 couple of guys come in off the street and want to have a meeting and 209 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.840 just build have the space to build to do it right there on the spot 210 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.919 in the time, like we did last week for a couple of individuals that 211 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:41.159 just came in wanted to have a meeting because they needed a meeting. And 212 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.960 then you jumped up and you're like I got this, man, I wanted 213 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.840 to do a meeting. Guys, get over here. This is what it's 214 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:48.759 for. I think you were like saying something like that. Yeah, not 215 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:52.519 quite. But you get it though, and you understand and seeing those people 216 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:56.480 come in and you know when you go out to them and you tell them 217 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:58.000 that, like, look, man, if you feel like you're needing a 218 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.320 meeting, because sometimes it might be eleven thirty seven, well the next meetings 219 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.200 at two, you know, like they gonna wait around. Nah, I 220 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.399 wouldn't my using days, all right, that's the easy one meetings that too. 221 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.960 I'm just gonna go to the store to buy some popcorn and yeah. 222 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.519 Yeah. So the fact that they can come there pretty much any time when 223 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:18.600 we're open or have somebody there and just be like, hey, man, 224 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:20.720 I need a meeting, and I'm like, all right, let's get you 225 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:26.519 one, you know. And it's a beauty beauty of it. But is 226 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:31.720 there anything else you like justin not the work you do? I like driving, 227 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.399 yeah, he does. He likes getting out of the office and out 228 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:41.759 of the office seeing the beautiful state we live in. I love I miss 229 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.960 and I'll probably drive something a little bit in the fall just because it's so 230 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:48.279 beautiful. Like I used to love driving across the state, you know, 231 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.679 to pick somebody uptakes my treatment and you feel so good about it sometimes and 232 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:56.840 it's it's interesting, you know, but to see the state it is kind 233 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:01.399 of beautiful sometimes and we go all over man, so it's it's pretty crazy. 234 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:09.480 But um, what's been your biggest am? I asked, justin first, 235 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.879 your biggest I don't want to say, um, let me think of 236 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:20.159 a good word, but that's not disappointment. What's been your biggest like challenge? 237 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.840 There you go, honey, The biggest challenge, I would say it 238 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:28.600 is probably the RDP system that we use, the Recovery Data Project. Yes, 239 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:33.080 that which is where we put all of our data into a system. 240 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:41.360 Got a lot of it. What makes you not like it? Oh? 241 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:48.200 Nothing, just days upon days of entering data from the whole year. Yeah, 242 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:52.240 welcome. Good bookkeeping was it was so cute. I was like, 243 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.320 hey, we got these books and like put these in there, and I'm 244 00:15:54.320 --> 00:16:00.559 like okay, and like twenty minutes ago, like we're done, so okay. 245 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.440 Well, then I go to run a report for like all the stuff 246 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:06.320 that's supposed to be there, I'm like, yeah, there's nothing in there, 247 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:07.919 guys. And I'm looking, I'm like, you just post my name 248 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:11.279 in bros, Like you gotta put like what we did? What you didn't 249 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.919 you didn't talk to this person, like, but there's no services offered, 250 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:18.039 like what we've got their name, sure, you know, but like I 251 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:22.480 don't know. So I'm like, here's the books back. Yeah, round 252 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:26.159 two, Round two. They're like, let's make this take a little longer. 253 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:30.840 Maybe I'll think we really did it this time. No, it's it's 254 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.120 it's tough though, when you're learning the new program. You're learning something new 255 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:38.720 and we're trying to figure it out and we still haven't. We still haven't. 256 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:42.200 No, I'm pretty sure we haven't neither, but we will, you 257 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.879 know. And it's just one of those things that when you're starting something new, 258 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:51.600 it's not always rainbow and unicorns. We even signed up. They offered 259 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.759 a special like four hour training that we paid for so that we could get 260 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:59.440 like more in depth and we like and one of my staff couldn't make it 261 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.039 to one sash and then the other because it was two two hour sessions. 262 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:03.319 One couldn't make it to one and one couldn't make it to the other. 263 00:17:03.359 --> 00:17:07.079 And so by the time all of us had watched all of the sessions, 264 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.960 we all go wait now what wait do we put it in here or over 265 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:15.640 here? I'm confused And I was like, oh man, now I have 266 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.759 to go back and like rewatch this video like he recorded it for us, 267 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:23.480 so at least I can go back and rewatch the training because and remind myself. 268 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:26.640 But it's a very nice program, but it is a lot to like 269 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:32.519 just learn any new program. Anybody who does data entry or has ever done 270 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:33.480 that. You're just kind of like, oh, stop it. You guys 271 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:37.440 are killing me with this talk. But it's for real and this is stuff 272 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:38.880 that we're doing. And just one more thing on that though, when I 273 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.559 heard him say, oh, we can make it accustomed to what you want. 274 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.200 Wow, No, they didn't mean that, because I'm all like we 275 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:48.400 need this, this, this, this, this, this, or like 276 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.759 yeah, don't do that. And one of our guys too, is like 277 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:53.200 um because I told him the same thing. I'm like, they can customize 278 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:56.440 it to what we want, you know, And he got told that same 279 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.720 thing, like no, our program doesn't do that, and he's like, 280 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:00.799 but I want it to. And they're like, well, it's not going 281 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.359 to because it doesn't do that. And I'm like, well they think they 282 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:08.759 duped us because they say, win customize it. How do you want within 283 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:14.599 the parameters of understanding how databases can be customized. I just want you to 284 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:21.400 print money. Print money. That's what we all want. Fabulous, Yes, 285 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:25.400 it is fabulous. It's what else is going on, y'all? Soo 286 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:29.240 what's going on, Caitlin, Yeah, just really enjoying this retreat and getting 287 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:33.359 to me all the other our CEOs throughout the state. So I'm pretty new 288 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:38.720 to my position, so it's nice to get to actually like talk to some 289 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:42.640 of the other directors and get to see what even though we all have the 290 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:48.799 same designation of recovery community organization, people are doing way different things. And 291 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:53.200 you know, we're we have a very different challenge being in rural northern Michigan 292 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:59.759 than a lot of the like metropolitan our CEOs and what they're able to do. 293 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.400 And you know what their numbers turn out two events our and we're like, 294 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.559 we got like four people to our smart meeting and they're like we had 295 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:10.519 fifty five and we're like, well, we don't know, that's not going 296 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:14.880 to happen. And we're we're new too. I mean these a lot of 297 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:19.279 these our CEOs have been you know, have existed for years and years and 298 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.880 years, and the people that work for them, I mean they got hired 299 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.759 on too in existing our CEO that was up and running, so it was 300 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:30.519 I mean that's great. But like we're building something, and whenever you're starting 301 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.920 something new, I mean, there's just it's the learning curve is just undeniable. 302 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.720 It's going to be there, and you know, I mean it's but 303 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.000 it's a positive thing because you get to see it grow and what you guys 304 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:45.440 have built is just incredible. And the transfer so we don't do transportation, 305 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:51.839 and we've talked a lot about that this weekend, but this week for a 306 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:56.680 lot of various reasons that you guys are all willing to tackle that is just 307 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.279 too much for us to tackle. So it's amazing what you guys are doing 308 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.119 and how much you guys have grown in the last year since I've been here. 309 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:08.559 Even Yeah, it's it's pretty crazy to look back at it. And 310 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:15.480 I just remember driving to Alpina at six in the morning, seeing the sunrise 311 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:18.200 and just praying, like God, like when't like, can I get a 312 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.559 paycheck? Please, Like it's just every gonna like, am I ever gonna 313 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:22.720 be able to pay myself? Lord? Because this is I mean, I 314 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:26.160 get it, I'm doing the stuff, but what do I need to do? 315 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:27.720 And it's just those conversations you know, And I used to have them 316 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:30.880 with Marnie as well, you know, like honey, I'll be working at 317 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:33.519 Walmart soon because I need to get a job job, you know, And 318 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.039 like I went back to school take some classes, you know, but it 319 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:38.279 was to get the student loan so that you know, we can make some 320 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.599 bills and stuff like that, and it was just tough man, and then 321 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:47.000 finally to have it kind of come together, and then I still don't feel 322 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:51.519 like I'm even where I need to be, you know, And that makes 323 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:53.079 some people frustrated and when they're like, well, you don't even seem happy 324 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:55.680 for me, and I'm like, well, because I got like any other 325 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:57.079 things I want to do, you know. And it's not that I'm not 326 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:00.759 happy, because I you know, appreciate it everybody that's helped me get to 327 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.480 where, you know, get to seventeen recovery where it needs to kind of 328 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.440 start going, and and it's just it's just been a lot of people, 329 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.000 you know, But it's just it's been cool though, and it's kind of 330 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:15.000 rewarding. And when I start making my films, so that's that's when we'll 331 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.240 be talking about cool stuff and the grand opening of our movie and stuff. 332 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:26.480 M can't wait. What was that? I roll just projects projects. He's 333 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.559 always got like pocket projects, all kinds of stuff that he wants to do. 334 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.839 Yeah. I think they were talking about that in here earlier, or 335 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.359 maybe it's yesterday and they're like that person with the Madias are just file over. 336 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:38.880 Then Marny just looks at me and I'm like, I know it's me. 337 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:44.920 Here's the thing makes me sound like I'm not supportive and supportive. And 338 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:48.680 I know he's capable of all these things, but he's got so many going 339 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:51.759 on at all times, and I'm like, what's he working on now? 340 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.240 Which? Where are we going? What are we up to now? Are 341 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:59.759 what's our next? What's on the agenda? It's which was funny because just 342 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.240 actually brought this, like I don't know, months ago, we registered and 343 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:07.680 Justin's like, hey, we got the thing coming up this next week and 344 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:10.799 I'm like, huh, what thing? He's like the thing, you know, 345 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:12.759 and the wit or whatever. And I was like, oh, that 346 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:15.480 that's next week. He's like, yeah, whatever, where you're going to 347 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:19.160 be gone all week? Yeah, so not tell remind Marnie. And she's 348 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:22.000 like, I'm supposed to relating my paper that day or that week or whatever. 349 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.759 And I'm like, what, We're going to this thing, you know? 350 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:27.200 And she's like, it's a retreat. I'm surprised you wanted to go 351 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.680 to that. And I was like, why, it's because it's a retreat. 352 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.599 I was like, yeah, it's like that's like outside camping, bonfire 353 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.759 stuff. And I was like, nah, what hotels that you know? 354 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:41.400 And he's like it's it's not it's at a retreat, like the Saint Francis 355 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.240 Retreat place is the name of the police I said what? And I looked 356 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.599 at it. I was like, oh, okay. I started looking at 357 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.200 closer and I'm like, yeah, because I don't like being hot, I 358 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.200 don't like bugs, like they're like yeah, no wonder she was shocked. 359 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.559 I mean it probably said swimming in there too. She'd be like, what 360 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.240 were we doing here? Heat? Water and fish. I was really like 361 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:07.359 what got him to agree to this? Curious? I don't remember, but 362 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:12.279 it was kind of comical. Then the email to even register, so, 363 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:17.279 oh, here's free tickets, are right, that's what I got too. 364 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:18.720 I just got the tickets. I did not like, do you want to 365 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.000 go to this? No? Yeah, I figured it wasn't a choice. 366 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:26.559 I figured it was a mandated thing. Make executive decisions sometimes, you know, 367 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:30.079 Yep, we're going to this. Yeah, we'll see you there. 368 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:34.359 Yeah, And so that was kind of interesting and fun. Well then I'm 369 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:37.599 like, everybody, we're leaving at noon and it takes like two hours and 370 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.319 forty minutes to get from where we are to hear. And then start thinking 371 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:44.599 as we're driving here, I'm like, wait, we're gonna get there just 372 00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:48.079 before three because I was thinking check in time and hotels three o'clock. So 373 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:51.640 it was, honey, you might can you look at that thing again, 374 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.440 the email, the thing we could the email again and see what time we 375 00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:00.359 can check in even She's like, yeah, five, okay, so we 376 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.200 got time to kill. Let bring Itt justin, who's driving in a car 377 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.319 behind us, and like, so we're trying to get just on the board, 378 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:10.319 like where are we going out? And I went over to ann Arbor 379 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:14.519 first and was staying with friends and they were getting ready to leave, and 380 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:15.359 I thought it was three thirty, and I was like, okay, that's 381 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.319 great, Like that'll get me over there right about you know, five, 382 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.920 a little bit before, and I like, get in my car. And 383 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.599 I turned on my car and it was two thirty and I was like And 384 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:26.720 because they were like, you know, you can stay at the house. 385 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:27.559 They had to leave, but they were like, you can stay at the 386 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:30.559 house for another hour if you want. I'm like, oh, it's fine. 387 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.799 And so in her head she's going, what is she going to do 388 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.759 over there for an hour? And I'm like and I get in and so 389 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.319 she sees me walking back up the girl the driveway and she's like, yeah, 390 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:42.240 you can stay here for another hour, and I was like, yep, 391 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.319 it's two thirty. It's not three thirty. She's like, I know, 392 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:51.839 best friends, that's what they're there for. Yeah, for sure. 393 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:57.960 It was fun. Yeah, we all got here, and it's interesting, 394 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:04.799 you know, to have some of the people in the room because DHHS had 395 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:11.839 a representative here and it's it's kind of weird for me to like kind of 396 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.799 calm down and like, that's not we're hereful, Corey. We're not here 397 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:19.440 to like start telling people, this is what's wrong. And because that's another 398 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:25.400 thing, you know, that to do my best to not tell people what 399 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:32.400 is wrong, because that's just bitching. And instead, how about come up 400 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.920 with a solution of, Hey, we could really get people to treatment if 401 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:38.519 we just had this. But it's hard sometimes, man, it's hard to 402 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:44.920 like switch your brain around. How do you do it, Marnie? How 403 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.640 do I not tell people what's wrong? Yeah, and like switch it around 404 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:51.680 to be like if we had this, Well, I think it's just framing. 405 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:53.440 It's all has to do with framing, and if your solution focused and 406 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.680 that's how you're presenting things, is like, here's what here my thoughts on 407 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:03.599 this, and I understand this is a barrier or these are the stipulations that 408 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:07.319 are in place for this that make it not possible for us to do it, 409 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:14.000 for your example, my way, right, So here's what, but 410 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:15.759 here's what we can do. What would it how would it look like? 411 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.359 What would it look like if we did it this way? Would that be 412 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:25.640 possible? And then hopefully come to some sort of some sort of solution or 413 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.799 at least get the ideas rolling around. And so sometimes you need to be 414 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:36.000 able to tell like, talk to you know, your friends or your people 415 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:38.440 that you know, and say what's wrong so that you can start sparking those 416 00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:41.799 other ideas, so that you know, we might not be able to come 417 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.440 up with it, but like, I need to talk to you about this 418 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.640 so that we can brainstorm together and you can say something that then sparks something 419 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.240 in my head that then maybe we can come up with a solution eventually. 420 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.200 Yeah, I'm working on it. But sometimes you need to just be able 421 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:02.119 to Yeah. I's like, oh my god, I get that enough justin 422 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:04.359 does two? Yeah, sure, you but it is it's good though, 423 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.559 you know, to get it out, but just not here. You know, 424 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.160 this isn't a place for that. This isn't a Hey, let's pick 425 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:11.599 on the d H chess worker because she came, you know, like, 426 00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:18.119 oh yeah, I was scared for her, actually opened up about his thoughts 427 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:23.960 on some things. And she's she organized this whole thing, and she's delightful 428 00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:27.559 and a great person. Actually, yeah, she's very nice and that. 429 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:33.079 But that I mean, so your grievances aren't with her there with the yeah 430 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.039 picture, yeah, and we're some policymakers and and so sometimes it doesn't really 431 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.799 help you know, she can't really change Michigan policy about things like that. 432 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:47.680 She has to. I just make up the retreat plans to make sure you 433 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:55.599 guys have sandwiches. That's one thing. Like maybe I'll offer my catering services 434 00:27:55.640 --> 00:28:00.640 next year. But their salad bar was delight great a salad bar every day 435 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.799 and it is, it's got all the fixings on. Yeah, it does 436 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:12.559 not a fan that holds up lunch for sure. Justin I have different thoughts 437 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:18.519 on that. Well, you have an ice cream cooler that it sounds like 438 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:22.519 sea and that sounds good, but you know, if you eat bad ice 439 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:29.480 cream, it can cause the rhea. Is that what you got? It's 440 00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:33.680 from like an ice cream truck from like twenty years ago. I have to 441 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:40.400 get all up in it and frozen and unfrozen and frozen and unfrozen. Yeah, 442 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:41.880 and I've got one today. And I walked past Caitlin. I was 443 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.240 like, see, if you eat this is going to give you bad stuff. 444 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.200 I took. I just tried to eat where the good part was didn't 445 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:57.440 look pink ones, Yeah, the pink ones with the little dots on it. 446 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:02.839 Usually it did not freezer burned. And yeah, I don't even know 447 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.039 how to like it wasn't freezer burned. It was just it could just be 448 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.279 old. Yeah, I think that. You don't know, like, oh 449 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:17.200 we got We'll talk to him tomorrow, like ice cream freez. Don't don't 450 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:22.559 eat that some covid I'm in there. Oh no, do you give that? 451 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.119 Yeah? Yeah, and I supposed to eat that. We put the 452 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.400 food out, you're supposed to eat. I'm just go digging through people's freezers. 453 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.640 Man, would you expect they're just eating ice cream? Be fat? 454 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.519 Kid? Stop it? Did somebody tell us so we could eat those? 455 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.400 Or did we all just start diving? I think people just started diving in 456 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:41.960 ice cream on the bottom of the man. Okay, good, good good. 457 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.960 That makes me at least feel a little about it, because all of 458 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.200 a sudden, I was like, I don't even know how I heard about 459 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.480 it. Somebody is like, at least's I maybe it was you, just 460 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.400 like they got ice cream and the cooler. Just so you know, I 461 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.920 just saw everybody else doing it, so I did it. I didn't ask 462 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:03.240 you didn't hear it? Thou who did it? Ray Man? You can't 463 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.759 trust ray He's from southwest Michigan. Man. You heard him talking in here. 464 00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:11.720 Ray, I mean, I love him to death. Man. He 465 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:14.920 was actually the recovery coach that I think I've told you just before. But 466 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.400 that pulled me in to his office as I was heading out to a treatment 467 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.559 place in northern Michigan. And I had a long bus ride to go there, 468 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.960 because that's how they send people sometimes if you're from a crappy area. 469 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.200 And it's not that Southwest Michigan's crappy. It's just the place that the state 470 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.759 gives the money to a swim ba. But they put people on buses, 471 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.839 so that's what you do, so you can get drunk or you know, 472 00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:42.119 stop off wherever and do all kinds of stuff at the bus stations or whatever 473 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.799 you choose to. I was on probation, so I wasn't from us around 474 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.599 with that. So before I go, Ray pulls me this office as that 475 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.359 says, what's it gonna take? Man? And I was gonna bow to 476 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.960 say, well, once I have kids, and he's like shut up, 477 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.880 And I said but once I He's like shut up. He's like, don't 478 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.920 even answer that to me right now. So he got a long bus ride. 479 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.480 Think about it. What's something that you put above alcohol? Well, 480 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.440 once shut up, get out of here, have fun. And I thought 481 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.400 about it on the bus, and I thought about it when I got to 482 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.319 the said treatment place, and that's when it hit me. And I was 483 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.119 like being on the radio. You know, I drank when I was younger 484 00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.480 on the radio, but when I was like twenty two, twenty three, 485 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.880 whatever it was, I hurt myself on a commercial that I had done and 486 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.599 I was smashed drunk, and I was so embarrassed that I swear to myself 487 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:30.559 that I would never drink on the air again. And I never did, 488 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.880 and that was like the only thing I put above drinking. So that's why 489 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.039 when I was like, my sister and everybody else have been telling me start 490 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:38.640 a podcast, start a podcast, and I was like, I don't know 491 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.559 what I'm gonna talk about. And then it was all the lights came on 492 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.279 and speak of the Devil, and he shall appear. He just walked past 493 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.839 Ray but Ray. Yeah. It was kind of like one of those things. 494 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.519 And then years later he's hitting me up and he's like, hey man, 495 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:53.160 I need to help me start a five or one C three nonprofit and 496 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.000 I'm like, a dude, that's crazy, because if I'd told you that 497 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.039 day when you were telling me what's it gonna take, I'm like, you're 498 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.119 gonna ask me to help you start a nonprofit one day? Like there's no 499 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.799 way either one of us would have believed any of that, you know, 500 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.920 but here we are. And so when people start telling you their dreams and 501 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:13.079 they're an early recovery, or start telling you what they're gonna do, don't 502 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:16.200 just poopoo on it, man, like ice creams. Don't ice cream sandwich 503 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:20.759 on it. You laughed at me. I did, doesn't. It's like, 504 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.720 I want to be a male stripper. Fabulous. No, it was 505 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:28.640 gonna be fabulous. No. I told Corey when he dropped me off to 506 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.680 the Silver Loving that I was gonna come work for him, and he laughed. 507 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:39.880 He said, one thing at a time, isn't that cute? Not 508 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:44.039 kick? I made him buy a shirt. That's where you got the shirt 509 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:45.839 stuff from him. So I was always like, you want to buy a 510 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:51.920 shirt justin Yeah, fabulous, you can do it. And then yeah, 511 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:53.119 and look what. And then he came back and he started doing the things 512 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:58.559 they needed to do, you know, And that's part of it, you 513 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:00.240 know. But I didn't laugh at you, and like you stupid. I 514 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.079 may might have been like, dude, how am I gonna pay you? 515 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.680 Like, man, you mean work. You weren't even getting paid at that 516 00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:07.759 point. So I'm like, I'm living off that COVID money is So I 517 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:13.119 don't know what you're talking about, man, But Justin's our most dedicated employee. 518 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.400 Yeah, for sure, playing number three. Yeah, there'll never be 519 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:25.480 another one because you just gotta keep going. Yeah, blackmail works, but 520 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.519 it's it's one of those things too. And to see like Justin like join 521 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.160 us so early on and then, you know, maybe have an opportunity to 522 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.559 go somewhere else and make a little more money for now, but to believe 523 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:38.920 in what we're doing, and you know, to see the things that I've 524 00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:40.880 told Justin, Hey we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, we're 525 00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:44.039 gonna do this, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that, and 526 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:45.400 Justin's seen it, you know, and he's seen it kind of happen. 527 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.759 So when I say, hey, we're gonna make movies, Justin's like, 528 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.480 headquarters, gonna make a movie one day? Is it gonna be good? 529 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.960 I'll make sure it doesn't suck as much as I can. But probably be 530 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.920 a bless movie, but I'll still be all right. Yeah, there's some 531 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:05.119 crap I say in Netflix now talking all that Mexican stuff or whatever they're talking. 532 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:09.599 They're Russian or where's it Norway. It's not even dubbed in right. 533 00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:13.119 Do you have Netflix? Yes? So you know I'm talking about No, 534 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.760 Oh my god, do you not watch it? Shows that are just poorly 535 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.280 dubbed. They're poorly dubbed. Nothing's in the American It's like you go, 536 00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.440 you know how like the new the new stuff that comes out, and you're 537 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:27.039 you kind of like go to the top of the list, right like there's 538 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.320 some something here that I haven't seen that I want to see. And then 539 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:34.960 they'll show you stuff or you'll read the topic or whatever the trailer recap and 540 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.679 you're like that sounds really good. And then you play it and then you're 541 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.079 like three minutes into it and you're like, this can be decent, and 542 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.159 then you realize that it's not in English. I mean, it's dubbed over 543 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.199 in English. But it's so like their voices don't match up. Oh. 544 00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:51.199 I always love that when you like and they're they're you know, it's just 545 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.960 the voice doesn't match to the body, and you're like, this is just 546 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:59.440 comic because like that is not the voice that goes with that body. Yeah, 547 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.880 exactly, and they'll be talking about China. But I don't get them 548 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.880 that often, so I must have a different algorithm than you guys. So 549 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:09.400 I only like the only ones I've seen that on have been like ones that 550 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:15.079 I've actually gone to find, not ours, man, you got to fix 551 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.719 ours them. And I will admit that they were Christmas movies. There you 552 00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:24.719 go, badly dubbed Christmas. What are you double whammy man? Thinking that 553 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:30.239 one pull not pullar spress. What's the there's one it's like a scary Christmas 554 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.159 movie. You we're saying those like evil Export, rare Export. There you 555 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.039 go, that's one of them. Yeah, and it's it's dubbed, and 556 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.320 it's oh no, that one's only subtitles. I think, Yeah, but 557 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.639 there's a couple other ones that are like poorly dub everyone I turn on this 558 00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:49.480 is it's not American. And then when you get into like low budget also 559 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.760 dubbed, then like it just gets progressively worst. Uh So I wonder if 560 00:35:53.760 --> 00:36:00.920 we're gonna have to dumb mine like really bad Spanish. So getting Netflix to 561 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:01.400 pick it up. I'm like, hey, man, here you go. 562 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:07.239 Look at that dub that's dubbed it perfect. The Netflix like, we got 563 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:13.840 it, we'll buy it. Suff We'll see. I know there's some really 564 00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.320 crappy stuff on Amazon Prime too. What's the movie going to be about? 565 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:23.840 I don't know. People's taking a bust a treatment. Yeah, it should 566 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:29.599 just be like you could have like a yeah, can that just be like 567 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:34.000 a so it's like a yeah, like a documentary he really likes. He 568 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:40.559 likes watching like recovery movies or documentaries. Sometimes I just feel like that's all 569 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:44.360 we knew. I'm like, can we put away the recovery thing for a 570 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:47.480 minute, like just zone out on like killer shows. We watch a movie, 571 00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:50.079 but you see that. She's like, what happened? I'm like, 572 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.079 no, see how they're using the lighting. It's wrong because it should be 573 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:59.639 like this, Yeah, you're one of these that's the really crappy light where 574 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.119 all that's brilliant. She's like, what I like the way they got that 575 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.360 shot? You see that was drone footage. I'm always pointing out the drone 576 00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:08.960 footge let's see drone footage there. My mom does animation orwards doing animation, 577 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.239 and so for a while, anytime we would watch a movie, she would 578 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:19.119 be like, but look like, can we just can we just yeah, 579 00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:23.519 I don't yet feel you, but yeah, it'll be about somebody going to 580 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:28.000 treatment. And at first I had an idea and it was it was shot 581 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:32.880 down, but it was a great idea. We'd get Whimer, who I 582 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.559 don't know if you guys know who that is, governor of Michigan. But 583 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.719 then just the whole fact that I said we're gonna get Whipmer, I didn't 584 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.000 mean get Whipmer, like we were gonna reach out to her, you see, 585 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.239 if she'll like to participate in our project. And then we were gonna 586 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:51.880 have her wear these certain clothes some people call him treatment clothes, like she 587 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.880 was going to treatment, you know, for an addiction. And then we 588 00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:58.840 were gonna send her on bus and we're gonna film it. And then we 589 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.239 were gonna send her like I don't know, Grand Rapids or Lancing coin flip, 590 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:06.000 maybe both, and then have her just sit there with her bags in 591 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.400 front of all the people walking around selling drugs and stuff, and see how 592 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:14.280 long he lasts before someone came up and gave her some or just took her 593 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:21.159 off the bench and said you come up with me, so like undercover kind 594 00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:24.760 of like yeah, like put like put her in playing clothes and then like 595 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:30.119 see and see how long it takes her to change some things around. By 596 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:36.159 sending people on buses to treatment, especially women, but men too, because 597 00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:40.400 it's were equals, right. I mean, I worked at a treatment center. 598 00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:45.000 I've heard all the stories about when people arrive after having been on a 599 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.159 bus. It's horrible. I mean, and just sitting there and I remember 600 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.840 when I came home from the treatment and I was talking about and again I 601 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:54.239 was on probation. I wasn't trying to go to jail anymore, and I 602 00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.760 wasn't there for a little bit and I didn't like it. So I was 603 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.159 like, let's not do that. And I was really trying to put it 604 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:01.960 together this time. And they got to row the bus with we may actually 605 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.559 made a video on the bus and we had fun and we made the video 606 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.719 coming back. But when we got to Countla Zoo, he flipped out and 607 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.159 he's like, dude, don't leave me. And I was like, what 608 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.559 are you talking about. He's like, don't leave me. I can go 609 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:19.119 get some right now. And it would be free even like just walk with 610 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.360 me, dude, don't leave me, don't leave my side, don't leave 611 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:22.800 my side. And I'm like, all right, man, there's my ride 612 00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:28.159 sea prom. I had to go. But yeah, I think he's say 613 00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.480 clean for I don't know a couple of weeks. And then he was like, 614 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:35.719 I'm just gonna smoop pot and then yeah, right back to his thing. 615 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.719 That's what he did, you know, And that's what most people do. 616 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.280 But it was one of those things though that it really opened my eyes 617 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.400 to like wow, like I knew it wasn't safe. I saw a prostitution 618 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:52.360 deal about to go down and lancing, and if I wouldn't needed forty bucks, 619 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.840 you know, like I couldn't made forty bucks. She said nothing under 620 00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:00.239 sixty and the guy was, oh, I got forty bucks. But I'm 621 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:01.639 just sitting there going this is happening right next to me, Like nobody cared. 622 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.480 He wasn't quiet about it. It was just like Wow, this is 623 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.280 happening. I'm just like wow. But looking back at it and then thinking 624 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.440 like okay, what if that's my cousin, what that's my sister, you 625 00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:14.920 know, going to treatment, you know, and then to meet people in 626 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.079 treatment and you're like, okay, well, what if that person was made 627 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:19.639 to take the bus? You know, you're sick, you're withdrawing, you 628 00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.800 know, and somebody comes along like, oh hey, hey, baby girl, 629 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:24.440 hey beautiful, you need this here just to help you out. And 630 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:27.920 what are you gonna do? Stay sick? Or he just handed it to 631 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.280 you or she just handed it to you, you know, like what are 632 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.280 you gonna do? All right, well, might as well take this. 633 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.199 And then it's something you don't even know what it is. And the next 634 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:37.360 thing you know, you're grabbed and you're taking him away. You know, 635 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:44.239 like, yeah, it's really dangerous something. Play the tape through women probably 636 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.440 would have turned us down for that. So I just decided that I will 637 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:52.280 use justin, put a wig at him, send him on his way. 638 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.079 I don't think it'll work so well, No, I think you have a 639 00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.639 problem with your lines. Yeah, I'll be like from the background, because 640 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:07.960 like justice gotta look real. Ask him again as if he wants to buy 641 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:15.599 a shirt and then take yours off, it would be stupid, It would 642 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:22.039 be like jackass. Well maybe not all right, Well, I don't know. 643 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.719 We're just kind of kicking it, right, now and chilling. But 644 00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:28.679 I thank you, though, Kaitlin for hanging out with us tonight and for 645 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:30.840 coming on the podcast with us. Thank you for having me. This was 646 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.599 really fun. It was my first podcast. You did really good. Thank 647 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.800 you. Yeah, anything else I want to say before we will wrap it 648 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.280 up shout outs, Oh, we're just I'm just gonna enjoy the rest of 649 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.880 this retreat. I want to say weekend. It's not a weekend. I 650 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.360 know it feels like this, does it kind of like does not feel like 651 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:59.639 that exactly? It early Cherry festival, Cherry trying to I just just not 652 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:05.679 pool. Yeah. I don't do people very well. I can't. Yep, 653 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:10.400 We're gonna make it through like champions. I got rides every day. 654 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:16.119 Yeah, just speaking of that sort of fabulous. But yeah, thanks for 655 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:21.760 listening though to seventeen Recovery Dot Competent Resources want to hit us up. You 656 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.920 can also get the two seventeen Recovery app, which is in the App Store, 657 00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.639 Google Play Store. All that jazz and then um, look for our 658 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.800 video. It's going to come when you say before Christmas. Yeah, okay, 659 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:36.000 and that's the video on our grand opening. But I have a goal 660 00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:42.159 to put it together before November. Even so, it is soon. It'll 661 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.239 be here, man, football season will be here. Fantasy it'll be great. 662 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.639 Get done when fantasy season starts. You don't ever tell your boss that, 663 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.199 Caitlin. By the way, if you're talking to your boss about stuff, 664 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:53.000 and when your boss calls and said, what are you doing, don't 665 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:57.599 want to be like not shit, just just saying and just said. Those 666 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:02.119 are Those are tips from Justin to you. Yes, thanks for listening and 667 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.679 check out our old episodes as well, but we'll talk to you later. 668 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.559 Everyone, save good night. Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. 669 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.320 We hope you come back for our next episode.